>>2 As we discussed earlier, the damage report is very important document, we are seriously concerned whether that reported has been accepted by Japanese police agency. Do you have any information ?
Until then, the police will not officially start the investigation. Evils can do anything.
A lot of 2ch viewers are really suffering from a problem now. Because bad people used the deta which was leaked out a week ago. He made a horrible site which anyone can sea leaked deta easily. So 2ch viewer's privacy was severely invaded, many victims even can't sleep and eat anything. We sent request about removing the site to the site's server's request email. But the site said that "we can't do anything without a Request from the court "
Could you ask the site's server to remove the site? You have a right of 2ch deta, so you might be able to convince the site.
Because the owner of ryushutu.no-jp uses the logs of 2ch and BBSPINK, I think they abuse your right. When I click the hash of someone on this site, I can see all the logs and details which the person wrote on 2ch and BBSPINK from 7/14 to 8/11. This is a very big problem for the people who were leaked their private information. And, could you delete the logs of BBSPINK from 7/14 to 8/11?
Sorry for my poor English. Thank you. Best Regards,
Many people already did, but they denied. Below is the respond from the server.
>Please do not continue emailing us regarding this issue. >We cannot force our customer to remove the content mentioned in your complaint as it is not the DMCA complaint and there is no legal standing. >We will require a US court order to force our customer to remove the content. >We have asked the customer to remove the content in good faith; >however, they have indicated they do not wish to remove the content. >Please let us know if you have any questions.
We need you to take an action, Jim-san.
Was your report accepted by the police? How's the progress of deletion of the past 3 months log? So many users are really worried, please let us know the situation.
Statement that describes the cyber attack methods and remarks encourage the cyber attack to spill data related sites are also prominent here and there We would appreciate if you would have the attention that should not be seduced absolutely incitement such from Pig-san
There are a lot of comments on 2ch that encourage people to do cyber attacks against leaked information related websites and that describe how to do cyber attacks. We would appreciate it if you would encourage people not to do that.
>>19 That would be a big mistake. The wheels of justice are slow, but they are sure. The weight will press down on the people that caused this. Please just continue to give me lists of the bad guys in my email. I am sending the complaints to the ISPs that are hosting the sites, and forwarding to the FBI in case any particular one of those sites belongs to the hackers.
>>20 Dear Jim-san, Could you delete the logs of BBSPINK from 7/14 to 8/11 as soon as possible? Beacause some bad guys made the site using your log. NOW we are worried about the site. Regards,
The problems of NT.Tehnology press release is that there is only apology, unable to find the reports on any progress. That is why lots of people keep asking Jim-san to same questions.
Could you please post any advances with date on NT.Technology web site so that we can easily check what you have done and have not done.
>>24 We are currently investigating the problem. The authorities will be going through our machines today and tomorrow. Who knows maybe they will find the bad guy. I am hoping. As it stands, if we are unable to find the bad guy and resolve all of these people's problems.
>>27 Thank you, Jimsan! We do not know U.S judicial system. What does the authorities mean? FBI or Police Department of San Francisco or NSA or CIA or Any special unit for Internet based crimanls?
>>33 in English translation Nice to meet you, Mr.Jim.
Could you possibly delete posting time from both live and archived thread between 14/7 2013 ~ 11/8 please? These data makes easy to find who post which threads.
No victims can not contact Hiroyuki so, Mr. JIm is our only hope.
Jim-san, pleeeeeease, We need your act for deleting (ask the hosting ISP to stop it) the leaked data abusing site, http://ryushutu.no-ip.biz/ (ryushutsu means leak in J) info: ryushutu.no-ip.biz is redirected to li551-65.members.linode.com. its actual IP address is 198.74.51.65.
The site is hosted by linode.com, for details about them, see here; https://www.linode.com/about/ This is what someone asked you here. The ISP replied former deletion request persons as follows; http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1377934827/966 mirror site: http://www.logsoku.com/r/operate/1377934827/966 mirror site: http://mimizun.com/log/2ch/operate/1377934827/966 excerpt message core; > Please do not continue emailing us regarding this issue. > We cannot force our customer to remove the content menntioned in your complaint as it is not a DMCA complaint and there is no legal standing. > We will require a US court order to force our customer to remove the content. > We have asked the customer to remove the content in good faith; > however, they have indicated they do not wish to remove the content. > Please let us know if you have any questions.
This is why people asking you to do it, Jim-san. You're the only one who can make it progress.
additions 1) also the registrar, http://www.name.com/ is handling domain name redirection from ryushutu.no-ip.biz to li551-65.members.linode.com. Craiming to name.com is value to do. (This service is now seems malfunctioning since of the DoS attack as following;)
2) there are some person who is attacking with DoS tools on the net via proxy, which repeats accessing for reloading to the li551-65.members.linode.com and/or 198.74.51.65 so that no one can accessible for the site.
3) A leakage victim said that he had a call(s?) from unknown person who talked about the leakage and meant 'are you going to leave it (do nothing)?'
to >31, 判る分で加筆肉付け。でも後半はかなり省いた。必要あれば誰かが補筆するはず。んじゃ寝る
I can move it to the street if I give advice. Such a misunderstanding seems to come out. Is it right to act by the expectations of the guy whom I gave advice to?
The user of your bulletin board tells you to do something. Do you have a feeling depending on this? If it is me, I think that it is not necessary to accept these. The user of your bulletin board should make a note by a self-responsibility. The reason why you relieve them is not anywhere.
>>58 Sometimes anonymous people give me very good advice. Sometimes they are well meaning, but the advice is not good. Sometimes they are very bad people trying to cause trouble. I always think hard before I do take advice from them, but sometimes I do.
サーバはこれだよね。 >>61-62に書いた他のドメインも全てここにサーバが置いてあるよ。 だからさ、シンガポールやフィリピンやSaint Christopher and Nevisに銀行口座を分散しても意味ないんじゃないの。 君なら知ってるでしょ? megaupload.comが香港法人なのに、サーバをアメリカ国内に置いていたからFBIに起訴されて閉鎖された事件。 あれもさ、幹部達はみんなニュージーランドに居住しながらアメリカ国内サーバにアクセスしていたわけよ。 君らも同じことしてるんじゃないのかな。
>>67 He is probably not an idiot, he seems really angry. It is a way for him to feel better. Those are public things he is listing, they are real places, with people at them worried over this affair just like him. I am not happy to be at the brunt of his anger, but I completely understand the anger. I am angry too, but not at him. >>69 "Riddle me this." - The Joker
By the way, I would like to request you NOT to make 2ch viewer usable until the deletion of the past 2 months' log (or the deletion of the time stamps) has been completed.
The ill-intentioned websites like ryushutu are now storing the log on their own websites and trying to show each post and the poster's identity obviusly linked, at a glance.
If 2ch is back, that means these website masters can speed up storing the rest of the past log.
Jim-san. I think that Operation Tomodachi of Jim-san and Yoshi-san is wonderful. The 3.11 Great East Japan Earthquake was remembered. Thank you for the support at that time. I am very thankful to the friend of you and you.
(英訳) Hey, Jim. We have some basic questions to you about this time's cyber attack on your server by someone Japanese.
1, Why did the file (that contained all the unencrypted digit of the credit card numbers and security codes from the customers who finished paying) existed on your server?
2, Why did your company (in spite of an external company of 2ch) have the 2ch log files (that contained threads written by the customers who finished paying) on your server?
3, Why did your company (in spite of an external company of 2ch) have the unencrypted file (that contained zip codes, phone numbers, address, full name, same as credit card case) on your server?
>>89 lol I understood you could not answer >>77 for some reason of deterirorating >< But, that's no mean to act because it's impossible to have those files unless 2ch took those to your server. Didn't you know the fact that you mustn't keep those files on your servers by law?? We're really considering that your company is really one of server hosting companies. This is common sence.
I have a simple question to want to ask you since I am the one of the victims of this incident. The simple question is: Do you still logging our posting, which should be in maru.txz, and keep them in your servers as well as before hacked? Or not logging anymore?
I'm afraid to be exposed any information related us. Therefore I'm now hesitating to logged-in and write anything using MARU. Could you answer me?
>>96 This isn't related to the thread, we think "I'm fishing" or "I'm fisherman" mean these combinations, but スレと関係ないんだけどさ、俺「釣り」とか「釣り師」っていうのは、これらの組み合わせだと思ってたんだけど、
recently, self-proclaimed fisherman often says "I caught a fish!" after the real intention of attacking their own directly. 最近自称釣り師がダイレクトで自分の本音を攻撃されて「釣れた!」とか言ってるの多いよね。
It would rather seem to be this situation, but wouldn't it? これは、どっちかというと、こんな状況かと思うんだけど、どうよ?
"I caught a fish..." ,〜〜〜〜〜〜 、 |\ ( 釣れたよ〜・・・) | \ `〜〜〜v〜〜〜´ し \ ゙'゙":"''"''':'';;':,':;.:.,., ヽ○ノ ~~~~~|~~~~~~~ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ト>゚++< ノ)
How is the progress of everything? Is the authority investigating right now? Please let us know the situation as much as you can, 'cause everyone is worrying so much and eager to know.
>>105 I think it takes a little time to arrest the criminals as the other cases took. All we have to do is to try to find the footprints (URL) of the hacker and those who tries to spread the leaked data and we will convey theses to Jim-san and the police agencies in proper manners.
Oh....! Omg......! Satsuki Katayama (who is a member of parliament in Japan) went to Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department to do the investigation request about information outflow turmoil of 2ch ><; Jim's position'll gonna deteriorate worse and worse;;;;
>>109 That is a good thing. TMP told me they have already taken measures to prevent secondary damages, so they are not doing an investigation. I think an investigation in Japan is a good idea to help shut down some of these sites propagating stolen information. 乙 to the Honorable Satsuki-san.
>>121 I am sorry sir, but you would have to ask them. Perhaps that is why the Honorable Satsuki-san has gone there. This is good news. I am sure he has the power to force them to get to the bottom of this.
(英訳) Hey, Jim. We have some basic questions to you about this time's cyber attack on your server by someone Japanese.
1, Why did the file (that contained all the unencrypted digit of the credit card numbers and security codes from the customers who finished paying) exist on your server?
2, Why did your company (in spite of an external company of 2ch) have the 2ch log files (that contained threads written by the customers who finished paying) on your server?
3, Why did your company (in spite of an external company of 2ch) have the unencrypted file (that contained zip codes, phone numbers, address, full name, same as credit card case) on your server?
>>142 I really do not know anything about BE. I used it a few times many years ago, and did not understand it. I think there is a board to discuss BE. Could you ask there?
The police also says that they cannot work on the problem unless you submit the damage report, even if they want to support you.
There might be anything like cross-purpose or mistake or misunderstanding, but anyway, hopefully you would submit the report to the police, as soon as possible.
>>181 Hi Jim-san. An illegal site (>>128) is now available again. The site master moved the illegal site to another server which is in Germany (http://www.square7.ch/) .
>>186 The site moved AGAIN. Russian server......(http://www.1gb.ru/) Its DNS has not changed (>>183 2chxxxxxx.ml). Unfortunately, it's still available. The illegal site is still now exposing leaked credit card numbers, names, phone numbers, etc...
>>188 全回収は無理だろうと思うけど… I think it is impossible withdrawing ALL leaked data...
>>188 to Jim-san. I am receiving too many SPAM and nuisance phone calls. Please withdraw ALL leaked data. Please cope ALL sites which pervert leaked date and expose leaked personal data. Please take responsibility in this matter and deal with it.
In broken English. Oh, Was that you? Thank you for helping us, you must be very tired. The evil site master likely deleted data from yesterday's server. Now, he/she is using Russian server. It seems playing a cat‐and‐mouse game... Is it only thing which we can do sending a mail for abuse report ?
Dear Jim-san. Would you delete or mask the past 2 month's time stamps ? External log site has already deleted or masked the past 2 month's time stamps, on humanitarian grounds. I'm afraid secondary damage will be widespread if you restart Maru (or tire) without such a protection of victimes.
removing the time stamps isn't going to help the situation. We could do it, it would just make things messy and not stop the the criminal that broke in and stole this information from continuing to do what he is doing.
Lots of 2ch Archive mirror web pages have deleted time stamps so that ppl can not EASILY reach personal data that was leacked from YOUR COMPANY even WITH 3 DIGITS CREDIT SECURITY CORD.
I believe removing time stamps will be a great help for your company.
As you know, if the bad guy is arrested, YOUR data will not be lost in the net. This means, the people who were damaged by YOUR spilled data may have a good reason to suit you.
So I believe removing time stamps is a good way for both the maru users and your company.
>>213 Yes, We hope sincerely that you change it this way. (only leaked period log) XX:XX:XX.XX
It is the most reasonable way to protect the honor of the victims. Because,There is Exposing Tools that go to see the 2ch,victims wrote. Writing is the list easily.
Punishing the criminal is very important. I think so, too. And to protect victims is also very important . Damage of victims are not only economic problems such as unauthorized use of credit card. Revealing their secret to anyone is very harmful problems.
Okay my script just finished running on pele. Please report to me any posts that you can find from july or august 2013 that still have timestamps on them.
Thousands of dat files from pele and kilauea have had timestamps removed for the months of July and August 2013. Please contact me if my script missed some dat files. Have a good evening!
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It is good to know that people's kakikomi can be reverted back to sort of anonymous again with your programming. I am counting on your sincere services.... If there is anything we could do, too, please let us know.
Thank you, Jim & Code Monkey! Could you delete the ID of the logs, too? On some unpopular BBS people doesn't write so much in a day. If ID is still indicated, it is easy to identify the user on such BBS.
Since the moment I heard about the 2ch/bbspink data leaks, I have been working 18 hours a day with no breaks. I spent the first two days reviewing the entire 2ch and bbspink code. I found many things to fix. Now I am working hard to find the best way to protect the future anonymity of 2ch and bbspink users.
I am currently rebuilding as much of the bbspink and 2ch code as I can. My first goal is to rebuild the Maru system and make it impenetrable. I will take the weak areas of the code and make them strong.
My major priorities are security and anonymity.
Everyone should have the human right to be anonymous when they want it.
>>278 Thank you for your kind cooperation. We would like to express our sincere gratitude. And all of us should strongly support you and Jim-san. We highly appreciate it all of our concerns should be resolved at the soonest time possible.
I would like to emphasize again, thank you so much.
>>297 No, I think it is a critical problem, too. 2ch BBS & Pink-BBS are anonymous BBS, basically. The fact, it is said on this page. http://info.2ch.net/guide/faq.html#A4
2ch & pink-bbs user's information was only revealed at the request of Police or court of justice. Now, this is being exposed to the general public. It is abnormal and very dangerous. Evil persons seem to want to reveal maru users personal data and logs, for destroying maru user's livings. Indeed, flagitious sites for that were opened again and again.
>>304 xerxes.maido3.net It came from another thread. Several persons consider suicide. Please erase a log. I am sad every day and it is crying. We are very sad. erase a log Please
I agree with you're saying adult conversations are sensitive. but conversations about various topics CAN be critical to one's life, such topics as illness, work environment, or ideological dispute.
Jim-san Mr. Code Monkey said "Now I am working hard to find the best way to protect the future anonymity of 2ch and bbspink users.". >>278
Jim-san. Do you think leaked log data is not a subject to protect anonymity ? To remove or delete time stamps will not complete the anonymous, definitely. But it will help a lot of people from riot. Of course, it should do before restarting Maru. Would you consider these conditions ?
People cannot hold a secret alone. People who posted 2ch are like a congregation of confessional . Please protect from the more humiliation of any victims. Jim-san, please turn off the timestamp.
Not only bbs pink, but also other 2ch logs have many sensitive topics for many persons. With personal informations stolen from your company, it is possible that these log files also will destroy Maru users life.
Jim-san, please think about this problem seriously. Please mask timestamps of other 2ch logs.
I just noticed that 2ch and pinkbbs authority is like Big brother of 1984. 1984 is a fiction about a fearful near future society controlled by Big brother. Big brother is a fictional dictator who gathers information and uses information for his greed. Folks do not know whether he exists or not. He hold a life or death authority over people.
Let me give you some example cases that posters' anonymity must be protected.
- A person who confessed his/her disease, such as being HIV positive but doen't want let peple around him/her know that.
- A person who wrote he/she is gay on 2ch, but hasn't come out that to his/her family, friends or colleagues.
- A person who wrote his/her company's confidential information. If the name of his/her company is known, his/her company would suffer enormous damage.
- A person who wrote his/her physical complex in detail.
Please protect the privacy of these people. Please hide the time stamps of other 2ch log.
Are you aware that the more you waste your time doing nothing, the more the victims are going to seek for help of lawyers resulting in your risk of being sued?
Jim-san. Case like >>322 is everywhere, every thread, every board. So we think it is very necessary breaking the connection between ALL past 2 months logs and Maru users' personal data by masking or deleting the time stamps.
I hope you are giving some thoughts to the people's request of hiding timestamps at least for the specified period. I think it is already unfortunate enough for us that our information, including physical contact information as well as credit card info. for some of us, was unwillingly disclosed to the public. Is it too big a favor for us to ask...?
>>329 Bbspink timestamps are already removed, so maru will be restarted on bbspink first. I am building a new system for maru, please wait another day or two for me to finish it. The new system has many security features and does not keep any logs at all. >>330 Thank you. After I finish my current task of bringing maru back online, I will be able to get some more rest.
>>331 Hi Mr.CodeMonkey. Will Maru restarting on 2ch be late ? That's heartening news. Am I correct in understanding that you will take measures about the Maru users' privacy of July-August till restart ?
>>334 I was a stalking victim. Now, I'm very scary that my name and address is spread in network because of the leakage. The stalker will find me from posted log, if the stalker find this leakage and try web search. (Because I posted on thread about my favorite music and my hobby.)
I immediately changed my phone number, but I will not be able to move out of my apartment at once. It is very useful for me that external log site delete or mask timestamps. I can gain time from secondary damage, because the people at large can't easily approach to logs.
So I would be very happy if you delete or mask last 2 month's timestamps.
Of course, I will move out of my apartment as soon as possible.
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>>347 I have an idea, why don't you make a thread on 2ch to talk to me about that. Most users of 2ch never come here. Maybe there is already a thread discussing that if you would share it with me. I would read about it.
>>346 Mr. CodeMonkey said "To delete timestamps of 2ch is possible but need to have permission from some people" >>264. And he said "Ask Jim-san who have a right of permission." You are expected to know how to have permission.
Jim-san. Don't you have a will to protect victims? Victim's damage is not only Credit card number leakage.
Jimさん You are the most responsible person besides Hiroyuki to have caused all this mess. 40,000 people (perhaps more) whom you are hurting are watching what action you will take next.
>>348 OMG, I did not realize that you were unaware of all the talks at 2ch we have had about this timestamp stuff, etc. That explains.... By the way, is it correct that you are one of the persons who can decide how to handle the 2ch logs? If not, do you mind telling us whom else to talk to?
Only a few users of maru users want to remove timestamps. But Most of 2ch users have no interest in hiding timestamps and some maru users may use 2ch log viewer ASAP.
right. Evil users are also minority. Many 2ch users have no interets in both searching maru users' privacy and removing timestamps, yet. So it is no urgent need to remove ALL timestamps.
>>386 そのURLのWHOISじゃなくて、AS Infoを見れば分かるでしょ。 そこまでしなくても、↓を見れば分かるでしょ。 何処がデータセンターで、何処にログが保管されているのか。 http://dawhois.com/traceroute/?query=2ch.net 209.237.229.94 200p.maido3.net United States, San Francisco
>>384 OK, I and you have same idea that many 2ch users don't have interest for maru user's privacy. And evil users are not so many. But I think there are people who want to reveal Maru user's privacy still now, unfortunately. These people are not so many, but they can break Maru's users lives easily. So I want to remove 2 months timestamps and want to break the connection between logs and personal data.
>>380-384 >>388 This is what we are working on now. We are using cats hands to get it done. It looks like some time today we will have Pink Channel past logs available, and perhaps tomorrow 2ch past logs. Some of the viewer developers may have to make some changes to their apps. As soon as we finish our development and UNEI confirms the safety, then we can go live again.
>>415 The new system is Rokka not Maru. Maru users will be able to use it. It is already live on Pink Channel, however many of the developers have not put it into an update yet. If you are a developer you can get the update information here. http://stream.bbspink.com/update.txt
I understand you and your staff are working hard to develop a new system.
But what we are desperate for at the moment is not the the new system, it's our privacy that would be abused if you don not hide the time stamps of the past log. Please understad that, I plead you.
Dear Jim-san, Jack-san, Codemonkey-san Please mask or remove the time stamps on 2ch logs. I didn't buy Maru. But my credit card number and my personal data were used by my family. Why is this happening to me? PLEASE HELP US.
80 名前:xerxes.maido3.net(地震なし) :2013/09/09(月) 21:10:07.27 ID:lQRZzN+n0 I am waiting for an answer from my email to UNEI. My concern is that doing it might disrupt some other system that 2ch is using. I don't intend to turn the new ロッカー system on for 2ch until the timestamps are removed.
I read Jim-san's post on the other board. We thank you for your care, Jim-san. You relieved 40,000 people! We can sleep well tonight.
Thank you again for your effort. We really mean it.
I wrote new server software to replace the old offlaw.cgi Maru system. My new system is called "Rokka". Inside Rokka, I can do a find/replace to remove the timestamp on posts between the time frame of the leak.
Using the Rokka system, the archived dats on the server will never change. But, when a request is made to view dat files between the certain timeframe, the timestamp will be censored.
Example: It will be like the mosaic in an AV movie. The girl's body never has a physical change, but the viewer can only see a mosaic. There wont be any way to remove the mosaic on Rokka.
This mosaic will only apply to the 2ch and bbspink timestamps between July and August 2013.
jim-san & Code Monkey-san Thank you.Thank you.... Please observe the (August to July) time stamp of the log of 2ch, to be invisible if absolutely.
In order to connect and write credit card, there are people who try to stop that to mask the time-stamps, Please disregard. They are making a commercial site that summarizes the data of the victim with malicious intent.
(I'm using Google translate) Thank you, Mr. Code Monkey! Your response is very helpful for us. And I also thank you for your hard work. Thank you so much.
Timestamps of living threads will be masked ? Some threads progressing slowly is now living, and some people write private things on such threads. Their privacy should be kept secret.
>>427 Hi Code Monkey. Thanks for your great solution on this matter.
Let me ask one thing. Does "Rocka"work with P2 with Moritapo solution? Some guys who want more digging on log files expect (hope) that P2 would be the exception on timestamp handling.
I believe there should not be exception on this matter, so want to confirm on this.
This is because the purpose of those who wrote the terrible words towards you will not let you mask the time stamp. They is intended to link the log of 2ch data and credit card. Please ignore the rant they please.
>>471 I am in good physical condition. My newest picture. http://8ch.net/BxD Currently I am setting up the new system with Codemonkey. It does not include any personal information. Thank you for your support.
I finally completed the new system that will replace Maru. The new system is called "Rokka".
One of the best things about Rokka is that it can display MOSAIC over timestamps. Now we can prevent everybody from seeing timestamps that shouldnt be seen.
You will see the new Rokka system in your apps very soon!
124 :Code Monkey ★【】:2013/09/14(土) 23:20:25.18 ID:??? The UNEI have deleted the symlinks that I made on the 2ch servers. Rokka will not work until I can make those symlinks again.
125 :Code Monkey ★【】:2013/09/14(土) 23:22:22.31 ID:??? Please wait. I will talk with Hiroyuki later.
The introduction of the Rokka System okay? I need your help please. If you restart the service maru, please mask the time stamp of the spill period. And we leave it as it is, it is scary is linked with personal information to take on a person with bad intent ....
Since the leakage I have been receiving tons of spam mail and sometimes phone fraud that I had never received before that. I spent so much time to stop/replace my credit card, change all the bill payer accounts, change my phone number, change my e-mail address, report malicious website every now and then.
I did not pay for maru to suffer these things. I cannot believe you had kept individual information unencrypted for so long. Please refund all the maru users.
>>568 He ignored you just because he was not able to understand what you intended to say. I can understand your intension because I'm a Japanese. However, I assume, when an English native read >>565, he/she would not understand what is written there.
Deletion requests were posted already, but lack of number of active deleter makes it impossible to catch up with the 15hrs a day working spammer. Jack-san is aware of the spammer, but it seems that he is not interested in taking action to ask 2ch for pin-point regulation of the spammer.
>>595 What words would you use to pin-point this person? It is a tricky thing. I am sure Jack-san is interested in helping, but it is just daunting when you look at that.
>>596 Thank you for the response. NG-Word you would pick for auto-delete system would be the mail-address "*****@yahoo.co.jp" until the spammer change the mail address, I would think.
Pin-point regulation for Japanese celluar phone means ristricting posting by unique phone ID number. 2ch calls it as "BBM system". which is a permanent regulation listing that bbs.cgi look at before allowing posting from celluar phone. Since bbspink does not have access to the BBM list, Jack-san or Jim-san would need to take the Phone ID(in the posting log) to 2ch and ask for adding ID to the list.
>>614 Why don't you always enter your cap (@Apparently admin ★) into name space when you post a res? You are not the same person as >>612 and pretending to be the admin? If you are the admin, you should post with your cap in order to prove that you are the very admin.
>>616 Good morning, I had sardines for dinner, and just coffee so far for breakfast. >>615 I need a new trip, I just have not thought of one that is cute yet.
>>629 Dear Jim-san Good evening. It’s good day. However, it is very regrettable for me to tell you. This morning, a staff of 2 channel posted below. I was very at a loss to read this. ___________________________________________________________________________ This is a rough English translation. 698 名前: ◆StopSigica.r [sage] 投稿日:2013/10/14(月) 05:05:03.70 ID:ma2NHJr60 >>696 They will be exposed what has posted and they are so afraid about it. (This staff has unveiled how to read old log of 2channel)
Frankly speaking, Those who buy ● have to accept the risk of the leaking personal data. However the exposure of personal data of them hardly happens on purpose, there is a risk.
Posting itself in Japanese 698 名前: ◆StopSigica.r [sage] 投稿日:2013/10/14(月) 05:05:03.70 ID:ma2NHJr60 >>696 過去ログで誰がどんな書き込みをしてたのかバレるのが怖い人達じゃないですかねー
正直、そういうリスクも含めて買うものが●だと思うんですけどねえ ●というか、個人情報を利用するサイト全体か。 意図的に個人情報を公開することはほぼないにしても、流出する可能性はどこでもゼロではないし。 http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1381496777/698 ___________________________________________________________________________ He should not say such a thing. In other words, he is foolish. He has insulted not only the maru users but also you to try to cure them of the damage.
I highly appreciate it if you would give your objection to his posting at the soonest time possible.
>>632 Thank you for your informative post. I already read that. It is a thing called "baiting" Don't fall for it. Let's find a peaceful solution. I am aware of it.
Question All Maru user kicked by new service? (http://tadaima.com/) Why did you start a new service, regardless of the incident before also not been resolved.
>>680 When I tried to buy a Rokka account, BitPay page said I would pay $35 to Racequeen Inc. Rokka System is developed and sold by N.T. Technology, isn't it? What's the relationship between N.T. Technology and Racequeen Inc. ?
>>685 What's the relationship between N.T. Technology and Racequeen Inc. ? Why should I pay money to Racequeen to use Rokka system? Please explain clearly.
>>690 That is better. This is Pink Channel, and it is working well. You can talk all that trash on 2ch, that is the thread the interested people are reading. ロッカー was built by Race Queen by the way.
>>691 I thought the purpose of this thread is talking to and asking questions of you, Jim Watkins. And Rokka system is the product developed by your company (or companies). I'm sure, therefore, that my questions are NOT inappropriate for this thread.
>>697 I know Rokka is working well. What I want to ask is why I have to pay money to Racequeen Inc, not N.T. Technology Inc. It is natural to pay account fee to the service provider company, but Rokka account fee is collected by Racequeen Inc, which should have nothing to do with Rokka and N.T. Technology. The name Racequeen Inc. is not displayed at all pages about Rokka except for the payment page.
>>715 Extortion, conspiracy and slander have little effect on me. The rule of law is slow, but sure. The hackers that caused the outflow will soon be exposed. There is no money to return, there is the opportunity to put the service back online for 2ch, if the 2ch webmaster cared to add it. Who benefits from Maru being turned off on 2ch? That is surely the hacker.
>>722 What would you suggest? >>721 It is impossible with the current configuration to refund people, since we have almost no income at this time, and huge utility bills. One year free would be nice, but that is not practical. We are not the giant Sony, just a small company trying to help. I must apologize for any communication problems. I am prone to allow the use of offlaw2 if our users want to do that. Tomorrow I will inquire into that. 2ch runs by concensus, like a democracy. Perhaps someone will have a good idea.
>>733 Having regulations and then something to buy them to avoid regulations is probably not a good idea for the future. I know lots of people are angry at me still. I am sorry about that. Maru being supported is important. It is doubtful if new purchases will ever happen for Maru. Old purchases will be supported and extended for any inconvenience.
>>737 That is a good point, but I am doubtful of concensus. It is better to find a new solution, and build for the future. I will be pleasantly surprised. if ● returns to avoid regulations on 2ch. As far as friends. I don't seem to have many anymore...orz
>>739 Nobody has any bitcoins, nobody has bought rokka. There are about 5000 users daily, and those are current maru users. Someday rokka will be really good, but now it is just for viewing past logs. Of course it would be really great to get some bitcoin, but I am not counting on that. It is just available right now. >>740 I can still see it. Really guys I am sorry, I just don't understand how to fix all these troubles without violating the Prime Directive.
Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
>>779 Yes of course, however 2ch runs by consensus, and the people there would need to request that. Let's just worry about Pink Channel here. It is working well, and we are discussing new things for Pink Channel.
>>832 They have an account on that machine. They asked for the root password which I did not give to them. I deleted the files that the injuctions I was sent pertained to.
>>839 ● works here. This is Pink Channel. Adults are in charge. I am patient with the children. I am not a liar. Consider who blocks ● on 2ch, and discuss that with them. Let's make Pink Channel a nice place for adults to have conversation.
>>850 2ch was already set up and functioned well, just like it currently functions on Pink Channel. There are other reasons it is not live on 2ch right now. You need to discuss those reasons with someone on 2ch. Try to see past the rhetoric.
>>844 Well, Unei has a pretty good reason to block ● on 2ch at this point. You cannot deny the facts that private information of 2ch users was leaked because ● was hacked and that ● was sold and operated by N.T.Technology, a company you run. That's a pretty good reason that Unei does not fully trust you with the Rokka system.
You are supposed to rewrite the Rokka system in PHP so that Unei can maintain the code. How is that coming along? You wrote on 10/8 that it would probably take 2 to 3 weeks to rewrite Rokka, and it has been 4 weeks already. If you don't keep your words, nobody around here would trust you.
>>852 Rokka won't be rewritten in PHP. It is a waste of time. It seems that you are listening to the rhetoric, or are one of the ones that has been writing it.
>>855 It infuriates me that you didn't do your part and lied to us 2ch users. If you were a mature adult, you would keep your words and have already paid creators of 2ch browsers. I don't think Unei is particularly responsible, but you don't strike me as somebody responsible at all.
>>856 I am sorry you are infuriated, however I have not lied to the 2ch users. I also have not withheld money from the creators of 2ch browsers. Thank you for your heated opinion, but it is not valid.
>>856 You said you would rewrite Rokka in PHP, and you didn't. You lied. The creators of 2ch browsers haven't been paid for years. That is irresponsible.
>>858 Actually we did rewrite it, but it was did not work well. PHP is not a server, and rokka is an actual server. Doing what is currently being done would be a sinch however why just redo that, it seems to work well enough with the offlaw2 system that is currently live on 2ch. Personally, I doubt you ever trusted me. If you did, you would not be a an anonymous right now.
>>859 Well, the problem is that you don't take requirements by Unei seriously. If Rokka cannot be rewritten in PHP, you should write a new service/system in PHP. Remember, N.T.Technology botched the old ● system with the August leak, and you are the one who has to regain the trust of Unei.
> Personally, I doubt you ever trusted > me. If you did, you would not be a an anonymous right now.
Hmm... That's strange. I thought Pink was an anonymous BBS just like 2ch. No?
>>860 Actually I take them very seriously. The code for ● to work is perl and was sent to them in September. It is live now here. Of course it is an anonymous bbs. The leak is still being investigated. The anonymous responsible for it will eventually be caught. All requirements the UNEI sent me, have been met. It would be very nice if they would turn ● back on, but I doubt that they will. It is just a shouting match talking with them. There is no interest in finding a solution, and I am not part of 2ch, they have told me that pointedly many times. So we can just watch and see what they do next. It is like watching a train wreck to me. It is so shocking and horrible, but I can't look away.
>>864 I am showered, and now I am really going to bed. You are missing the point. The haskell server has nothing to do with the ● login not working on 2ch. That is perl, and has been sent to the UNEI. They just didn't put it on. They have ulterior motives, and don't seem to care who gets hurt while they do what they are going to do. Good night again. Get some sleep.
>>870 > The haskell server has nothing to do with the ● login not working on 2ch.
It does. The reason why Unei is blocking Rokka on 2ch is that they don't trust the Rokka server written in Haskell. As long as you don't rewrite the server software in a language they understand, you don't fulfill Unei's requirement.
>>871 They will just come up with something else then. They can enable the ● login without having to touch any haskell. They won't enable it, because they don't want it. They have other plans. Be the heron, don't be the duck. Really get some sleep.
>>873 It's early in the morning where I live. You really don't understand what I'm really trying to get across. UNEI DOESN'T TRUST THE CODE YOU WROTE. Unfortunately, that's pretty understandable given the magnitude of the debacle in August.
>>874 Good morning to you then. The cause of that debacle has been determined. The perpetrator has not. I am getting tired of going around in circles with you.
(1) Unei doesn't trust the code you wrote in Haskell for Rokka. (2) Therefore, the entire Rokka system, including the server software, has to be written/rewritten in languages they understand.
>>876 Well, one of the servers you run was hacked, so you are at least partially responsible for the leak. That's Unei's rational at least, and it is understandable IMO. We are going around in circles because you don't understand how you are perceived by Unei.
>>880 いや、それは俺も知ってるが、Jimが「要求事項を全て満たしたものを開発した」なんて 世迷いごとを言うもんだから、Jimに直接伝えられた事項があるのかと思ったんだ All requirements the UNEI sent me の "sent" を曲解しすぎたようだ。
JimはログインだけPerlで書かれてればいいだろと思ってるようだが、 ちゃんと2chの要求事項が理解できてないのかね? Jimに伝えられた "All requirements the UNEI sent me" の原文が見たいね。 まさか日本語で書かれたスレを機械翻訳したものから要求を読み取ったという訳でもあるまい。
Well the solution is simple. It is bad policy to do work at root level on a server. Hanako does not exist anymore, it was part of the security problem. That machine is now a VPN server for the volunteers of 2ch. That VPN has access to the memories server. I have not stolen the memories server. I have secured it. I am happy and able to help with this. The solution for this is to chown the files or directories that are necessary for the volunteers to use. I need to know what those files or directories are, then I can fix this. I never give root access to anonymous people.
>>916 Why none did not point out why Unei need root account, when we discuss about this problem? In these case, user account include root may be able to delete logs and edit code on the server. If not, the machine run on bad policy; running web service as root.
I think the person who know the root passwd should be responsible one. When the machine is under trouble, most of responsibilities are due to him except that it was happend by the system problem without the security notice from coder. Never evade his responsibility.
Unei want to need root account, however they may not need any responsibilities that should be due to when in trouble. In this case, why Jim should give the account? I think there is no need to do that.
>>932 well, none is your enemy, however some people think you as enemy. thinking other enemy must not make the problems solved in this case.
I think they notice they cannot delete logs because Jim did not give root. If it is not true, - they can delete logs and edit some code - , you should announce it.
Can they delete the logs ("Kako log") without root now?
>>896 > Hanako does not exist anymore, it was part of the security problem. Was Hanako one of the causes of the previous krack?
> That machine is now a VPN server for the volunteers of 2ch. Do you mean that Hanako was replaced by a secure machine which the volunteers of 2ch can access to via VPN?
> That VPN has access to the memories server. Does the memories server contain 2ch logs?
> The solution for this is to chown the files or directories that are necessary > for the volunteers to use. Do you mean that the reason is not lack of the root password but the owner and permissions of those files or directories that the volunteers of 2ch cannot access to them?
> I need to know what those files or directories are, then I can fix this. Did you tell it to the the 2ch UNEI? Does the 2ch UNEI know paths of those files or directories, in order to indicate what should be chowned?
>>948 Just like I said. Instead of working with me on that, I am accused of bad things. It makes me upset that they call me a thief of their memories. I have feelings too.
>>956 It sounds like you are falling for their story as well. The real problem they are upset with me is that I have not rolled over and shut down business. They seem to have a plan that by slander I would just give up, and then something happy and good would come to them. Well, that didn't happen, and now they are having a tantrum. I seem to be the personal target of it.
>>959 If I were you, I would simply admit that I made a mistake and apologize to Unei for that. You hurt Unei's feelings by ignoring them, and their offensive language is just a response to your negligence.
>>978 I mean that you said "we must find the fuck cracker" so almost all of us recommands that "James will report us when FBI arrested the fuck cracker"
that's why I asked that FBI found or not. now, it's 3 months from this crack.