Hello! Here you can ask me any question you want, and i'll answer it! Ask me about the food, the people, the weather, or anything else you want. I don't speak much Japanese, and my PC is broken so I cannot type, so please use english.
You can also ask me to explain any slang you hear, and i'll do my best to explain it
Also, an 'something' usually means one out of something, like an apple would mean any apple out of a bunch. 'The' means "That" something, "that apple" would mean a specific apple, such as one you're point at.
In the third frame, a guy says "all get naked and stack on top of each other" I can't imagine this situation. what does "top" mean? Can you tell me what it is?
>>1 A copule of years ago, A friend of mine(a Japanese who still lives in US) was hit by a car. He was badly wounded in the accident, but the driver who was American did not say "I'm sorry" or anything like that. Why is it? Why is it so hard for Americans to say simple "I'm sorry" ?
>>5 It's a pride issue. Not all Americans are like that, however. Some just feel superior to others even fellow Americans of the same status. Being a Chinese American I see that there are subtle superiority complexes within the American culture. You can find that this is not uncommon because anywhere in the world, someone has an overbearingly large amount of pride, thus making a simple "I'm sorry" hard to say.
>>4 Top is to be above something. In a stack of people: (^-^) <-Top (~_~) <-Middle (x_x) <-Bottom He wants the women to be on each other.. He doesn't mean any person specifically to be above the rest, just to make a pile.
>>5 I'm sorry this happened. There are a lot of americans who are extremely rude; but then there are those of us who are nice too. A lot of times, Americans do not like to apologize for things, as it makes them feel bad or guilty about what they have done, which is what >>15 is talking about- and in general we do not like to accept responsibility for what we do.
>>13 Well, we aren't really more obsessed with sex more than any other country, but our media (radio, TV, magazines, stuff like that) has more sex in it, to try to appeal to people's senses and sell things.
>>17 Actually, i'm working on learning japanese now.. I study hiragana and katakana when I can ^^ I have books and practice all the time. I have many japanese friends (I play FF11), so sometimes they help me with things- and I help them with english ^^ I'd love to learn Japanese, and be able to communicate with my friends in their natural language, as well as visit japan! I think you're a very interesting country, and i'd love to visit as soon as I know enough to survive. hiragana and katakana are very hard for me though, because i'm not good at memorizing things, and my school only offers Spanish and French classes (personally I think it is very stupid to teach french, as Japanese, Arabic, and Chinese would be far more useful in today's world) --- Sorry it took me so long to update, I was unable to check 2ch while I was at school
>>17 Actually, I don't believe in that everybody should learn English, only if they aim to live here and make a living. However, my situation is, if I want to live and work in Japan, I'll learn Japanese. That is what I'm doing now in college. So giving reverse stereotypic remarks is rather an insult to society.
And no, I'm not hyf270, am a different person entirely.
>>23 Seems like you'll have to learn the language and read the 2ch rules. Do not post any comment without understanding them chink. http://info.2ch.net/guide/faq.html
>>25 I'll forget about that racial slur and apologize for not reading that line carefully.
Second off, I am learning the language.
This has nothing to do with >>17. This is what I was really trying to say in >>23. I meant that English shouldn't be thought of as the dominant language in the world and that it is ignorance that Americans like myself solely believe that English should be spread and be the only main language. We shouldn't live in the basis that where ever we go, people should know English. That's why I say that it is our duty as foreigners to cater to other cultures and languages. So, in the end, any American that come here is seeking to learn Japanese and also here to help you understand where we come from and our language.
Honestly, I'm not out to flame anybody and that comment in >>23 was purely out of ill-context. I mis-read the sentence. However, I do believe that racial slur was a bit overboard.
It happend everywhere. Every country has car accidents. If you don't live in an area with many cars, they are less frequent so the news may not be reported. However there are always car accidents where there are cars and people do die or get injuries. It's rather unfortunate.
That is about it. We also are famous for an old movie, The Wizard of Oz, because it takes place here.
Other than that, even though we're in the middle of the country, we aren't really famous. The town I live in is said to be the #13 best place to live in the country though! And the town across the street is #6.
Kansas doesn't actually raise too much beef. Most cattle in the USA I think is in Texas and Iowa. After the Mad Cow (BSE) scare, there was a little sag in the beef market, but it's not really been noticed. Right now, it's made some people realize that meat (including chicken, because of bird flu) can be dangerous, but in general we won't learn our lesson until something very bad happens.
Actually, as I said above, I don't think too many americans have seriously changed their diet. There has been a lot of talk lately about Tuna, and if it's good for your brain, or bad for your body. Basically the argument is that Tuna is good for you, but the pollution in Tuna can cause disease. So it's recommended you have some Tuna, but not too much.
I think more Americans probably are eating fish though, because Sushi is becoming very popular here. Personally I can't stand it (I think the seaweed is what I don't like), but businesses and formal dinners are being held over sushi a lot more often than steak now. I suppose it's the stylish thing to do.
Actually, with all the stuff companies (McDonalds, Burger King [BK]) put in meat, and how obese americans are getting (i'll admit, i'm oversize too...), it won't be too long before our hamburger overlords have complete control over us.
Actually, I read that there are so many hormones (http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormones kind of explains them, but basically they imply the chemicals in your body that control sex and puberty) in most hamburgers here, that some boys are actually growing breasts (Not fat, actual breasts! No milk, though) from it, and the age most kids reach puberty has dropped two or even three years!
>>5 Probably multiple reasons. Some Americans are just plain mean and rude. Sometimes there's resistance to apologizing if people don't think they're "wrong". And lastly: some insurance companies forbid you from admitting fault, even if it's obvious you did it - and an apology could count as admitting fault.
>>42 I'm sorry that you see us as rude, ill-cultured, self-indulgent people. That we push into people and not even say we're sorry. We have no polite mannerisms, and no self control. It's a shame that we don't say sorry enough.
>>44 It really depends on what part of the US you're in. The east coast, for instance, comes across as much more rude, unapologetic, etc. Minnesota, on the other hand, tends to be super-duper polite - so much so, in fact, that a lot of the Japanese politeness rules remind me of there quite a bit.
>>45 The fact of the matter is that I'm being truthful. I'm a kid myself still, but the younger generations are degrading so much. It really saddens me to see that the only fun that 9 year olds in my neighborhood can think of is to be rude and disrespective to other people's lives. And, I live in a middle class area as well. It does depend on the parents and how they rear up their children. As a young adult, I feel a duty to represent the young population in a good way.
>>46 It does depend on the region as well. Much like in other countries as well. Regional differences and the way they bring up society in those areas determines the mannerisms. I know that they people in Indiana are very homely, even in their capital city.
>>49 First of all, don't underestimate people, just because you type it in Japanese doesn't mean that I can't find some means to figure out what it says. I don't go around calling you under racial slurs and I don't disrespect you at all.
Don't try to hide anything through dry schemes. It never works.
>>51 I'm just curious, but how many languages do you speak? I speak Japanese fluently (of course, it's my native language!) and some English which I learned in school and at home.
>>52 I speak English, can understand some Cantonese (but don't speak), and sort of speak and understand Spanish. I'm currently taking Japanese and plan to pursue that then try and learn Cantonese and Mandarin until I can speak them.
The thing about Spanish is that, if you can read and understand it, you can most likely look at French and Italian and be able to read those to some degree as well.
>>54 I thought about it, but I already made my decision on my major and I'm sticking with it. My dad is the amazing person, he knows Cantonese, Mandarin, Vietnamese, and English. He doesn't even have an accent in his English speech, but it's not even his native tongue.
>>52 I know this question wasn't aimed at me, but I personally speak a tiny bit of japanese, and i've been taking spanish in school now for around 2 years. I also was in a spanish club a long time ago. My mother took spanish in high school, and can speak better than my dad, who learned spanish before english.
>>58 Well, she says you have to be good looking, so i'm out!
Well, summer camps used to be reserved for middle-class+ families, I see a lot of programs now that let poor kids go too. Many times, the parents use them to keep their kids busy during their summer break, so that they don't have to hire a babysitter.
There are many different types of summer camps. Some of them, like Boy Scouts, are like camps out in the forest, with activities like shooting mini-guns, races, and stuff like that. There are also camps that are more like schools, one I went to offered many special courses over the summer. Like Movies, Music, art. Personally, I took a course in flying an airplane, rock climbing, and paintball! I actually got to fly an airplane, but I never got very far up the rock wall (I'm afraid of high places >.<), and I quit paintball (guns with bullets made of paint) after two days because it hurt so bad!
There's also Space Camp, which is run by NASA (National Aeronautics and Space Administration, the part of the government that handles space vehicles)
I went there once for a few days, it was very fun! We got to build model-rockets and shoot them, We got to sit in chairs that made us feel like we were in space, they had a chair that made you feel like you were on the moon We even got to eat the same kind of food the astronaughts (spaceship people) do!
The inside of the building they kept us in even looked like the inside of a space station!
They also had a machine that looked like a space shuttle, and we got to pretend we were on a real mission! When I was in space, I was a technician, I had to fix things in space. - But my headset didn't work, so the ship went back to earth without me! hahaha When I was in Mission Control, I was the leader of it all, but a lot of times I didn't know what to do, so my mom had to help instead, and I got angry XD
Overall, it was a lot of fun. If you ever get the chance to go with your kid, or even just send them- as long as they speak english as well as you do, it would be a lot of fun for them
>>69 Some kinds of crazy are fun: going and doing fun things at random, doing the unexpected, things like that. Some kinds of crazy are not so fun: screaming, vindictiveness, being abusive, being super-possessive.
>>71 You can't forget the type of stalker, sex, clingy, crazies that are out there.
>>67 Try looking into dating services, or internet penpal services. You can meet American girls through those, but they usually charge. If you get Yahoo! Instant Messenger, you can find chat rooms or do member searches for people that are interested in talking to people from other countries.
>>67 Short of coming to america, there's not many good ways to meet american women. Although I despise it, I honestly have to recommend the site ttp://www.myspace.com for meeting people. It's very popular, although you'll meet a lot of idiots there.
If you do come to or live in America, the typical places to meet women are at bars and clubs, at malls, or through dating services mentioned above. The best way to meet women in general is just to live here for awhile, talk to people you see in places near you, join clubs for your interests. In general, the more friends you have, the easier it is to meet people.
>>65 Well americans are already stupid enough as is, and big breasted women tend to be even dumber than usual! So I don't make a big deal of it. Not to mention nowadays most people with big boobs are fake anyway.
I actually like small/flat chest myself. If they're too big, they make me uncomfortable!
>>84 Well, japanese smilies are becoming more popular. But basic american smilies:
:) :-) :D =) is like (^_^) :P :-P =P is like (^u^) (sticking out the tongue, joking) :( =( :-( is like (T_T) (crying) :| is like (-_-) or (_ _)
We don't have much art like your SJIS/ASCII! If you want to see american faces, go to 4-ch.net and click the "AA Bar" on the left. They're mostly made by americans, but they're based off Japanese designs.
>>61-62 Thank you for your detailed description about summer camp and sharing your personal experiences. Looks like there are many kinds of summer camps. I can't belive they let a kid seated in the cocpit and fly a plane if I'm not misunderstanding what you wrote.
We Japanese all know NASA. Some Japanese have been on board a space shuttle and done some mission in space. But Even far bofore that, it is known by all Japanese because they sent an Apolo to the moon and all.
The summer camp run by NASA sounds like a lot of fun. You mean you have participated in the camp with your mom. I am in my thiries and have no chance to sign up for a summer camp but If I had a chance, I would want to participate in a baseball summer camp if there's a camp where you practice baseball.
FYI, I think Japanese people who post long English messages here and other threads are kind of old. Because it takes many years of studying to reach the level where you can write English. I bet even university students cann't write long English writing. They may be good at reading and grammar but writing or speaking to express ideas in their minds is another story and needs years of study.
>>82 It's an abstract image. It's like you drop a paint in the water and stir it. I don't know how you made it but it's beautiful. What kind of software do you need to make an image like this. Photoshop? I am ignorant.
>>91 :61-62 Don't get upset! There are actually summer camps for adults now, although you have to take vacation time for it. Also, some summer camps (like Space Camp) let you go in pairs. I did a Parent and Child course, so there were a lot of dads and their sons, a grandpa and his grandaughter, my mom and myself (male), even some moms and daughters
My two best japanese friends are in university. They play ffxi. Well one quit so he could draw manga, but I still talk to him sometimes. The one in university has better english, but he studies medicine. I like to talk to them, and help them with their english, I find it fun to figure out what things mean together!
:82 Yes, it was Photoshop ^^ You make colors in photoshop, move them around with liquify tool, then play with the settings until it looks neat! I put a place where you can find more of my art in my e-mail field
>>92 I guess you are hyf270. Thank you for the additional info. Summer camps are richer in variety than I thought. I thought they were organised just for kids.
I watched your photoshop work on the website you showed. Seems like you can do various things by using the app. Keep up the good work.
>>96 ha ha ha ha!!! That is terrible Japanese language!!:which is like my English. The all word order is messed up! Is the person who made that Korean or Chinese?
>>96 Yeah, the Japanese writing is far from natural. Isn't it translated by a translation software? I wonder who made this website in the first place. I am not good enough to judge her English is perfect like the English of a native English speaker but if so, this is a trap made by a native English speaker.
In any way, this is a trap made for white American.
>>88 > :( =( :-( is like (T_T) (crying) Um.. Not quite..
;( or :´-( is like (;_;) or (T_T) (crying) :( =( :-( are merely frowns, what someone does when unhappy or sad. ;) or ;-) is like (^_~) (winking) ;D ;-D is a delighted grin or laughter... Hmm.. What else... Ah well. ^-^
In truth, the United States in, on the surface, a peaceful world driven by nothing more than pleasure and joy where the people are fair-skinned with blonde hair and golden eyes with child-like innocence. However, underneath the feet of these wonderful people is a vast system of machinery and factories run by squat, dwarf-like people with amazing intelligence and dark features. They ensure the surface people never know any discomfort or pain as long as the proper price is paid.
Actually, I wrote that really quickly in PC class, before anyone had a chance to ask me what a Ketsuge Burger was, so that's not how I usually talk so much.
>>112 As an American Citizen, it's my legal obligation to say this man is lying. I wish he were ;_; As one of the dark haired blackeyed cursed ones, I am doomed to a live of suffering and hard labor... At least the food is fattening!
I think it is very odd that my school blocks harmless game sites, but still lets me log on to chs and chans; which usually have porn or at least bad language.
>>116 My high school that I went to actually did a good job of blocking porn sites and anything dealing with half naked women. But, the connection sucked even though they had optical wiring throughout the school.
>>1 hey, how u doin? Im dying to know the tips to speak english well. So far, what Ive found is *it sounds more like it when you make your voice tone lower *you absolutely have to make clear accent (I never mind about the second accent for now) *speakin english involves crazy movements of tongue and you have to open your mouth wide
So, I wanna ask whether you do exactly the opposite when u tryin to speak Japanese. If that's the case, these tips may be actually useful, u know. Especially about mouth and tongue movement, I find Im opening my mouth for vowels or R sound, and more like closing or movin my tongue up and down for consonants. Am I wrong? R sound appears really a key factor for me just becasue I feel like Americans making R sound all the time.
By the way, Yuengling is the best beer ever in the world. It's from around Scranton, PA, right? In Pennsylvania, you can order it just saying "gimme a lagar."
>>122 For English, you need to pronounce your consonants well. The vowels are important, too, but the consonants are essential. As for Japanese - I have a lot of problems with both pronouncing the vowels correctly and getting the length of the syllables correct (e.g. douzo vs dozo).
Hello Again! I tried to post at school 2hrs ago, but network proxy error :(
>>128 Is this what you mean? That is Dead On Arrival; DOA.
Other than that, Doy... i've only heard that used as an interjection on TV shows Like "Duh!"?
>>125 Yes. Usually younger kids take typing classes, middle kids (where I am) take office programs, and then you start programming (if you like PCs)
Personally, I skipped the typing and office courses (since they're way too easy) now I take HTML class, but we're already done learning, and It's too simple. I usually finish my assignments 30-40minutes before class ends
I learned how to make tables last week, and I picked right up but the other kids still don't get it. I guess it's because I spend so much time on BBS and Wiki etc. that it just comes naturally to me
The teacher is stupid though.. she uses old HTML. She makes us capatalize (LIKE CAPS LOCK KEY, BIG LETTERS YA?) all the tags, and use < br> instead of < br/> (spaces added since I don't know if it will mess with the post)
I am going to be homeschooled soon though! I just have to prove to my mom I can by this weekend, and she will take me out! Hurray!
In school today, I checked out a japanese book. It explains the kanji through pictures! So it's easy to remember. I already understand 名 now from it! I still need to learn hiragana and katakana...
Would it be wrong to scan all the pages to a CD? >.> I don't know if I can find the book, and the library probably won't sell it... And I don't want to just steal it..
>>122 I'm sorry, I can't really answer this right now (/.\;)
>>132 I got a manga that teaches kanji through pictures. It's pretty cool. I didn't really get to look through it extensively though... Maybe I should bring it here to school.
>>135 Yeah, i'm pretty good with PCs. My mom wants me to make a webpage for her business... I don't know why though, she's much better than I am. She's been doing it for a long time now of course.
I could try amazon, but I don't like ordering stuff online very much.
As the American population rises out of control, drastic steps have been taken to ensure there is enough food for everyone. While synthetic foodstuffs Soylent Red and Soylent Yellow have eased rampant hunger, it has not solved it. However, I am proud to announce that the newly developed and successfully synthesized Soylent Green has not only doubled available foodstuff for the population, it promises a new age of plenty. The secret behind the production of Soylent Green is currently a trade secret and aggressively guarded by the Soylent Corporation. The only clue is that it is derived from plankton.
>>137 it says: “evening 夕 combined with mouth 口, here indicating an open mouth calling out a name, gave the Chinese the character for NAME 名。It was developed from the practice of the ancient chinese sentries who at night had to hear the name of the approaching citizen called out before he would pass him. It is pronounced NA when used by itself, and MEI in compounds. A 名人, name-person, is one who has a name, a famous person A 名画 name-picture, is a famous picture. On most application blanks, you write your name on the line marked 名NA。”
>>138 It's not too bad, but he needs to learn how to not add vowels on the end of words, and he should also slow down his words Most english people don't speak very fast, so when people do, it's usually seen as either being excited/anxious, or a dead giveaway of an accent
Relationship of love and marriage. evolution(from dictionary) : the way in which living things change and develop over millions of years, or a gradual process of change and development Evolution : It is spontaneous attractive force between gene of oneself and gene of another. That is, A gene is prefered by other gene. For prediction of evolutions, It will be natural that spontaneousness is important to evolve for better or worse. Artificial stratagem of gene's natural movement will tend to negative motion, despite prediction of evolutions tend to positive motion. That is, We never deprive evolutions of nature. (by X-man)
>>142 You can buy a second-hand book at Amazaon. If you are going to buy a title that's not pupular at all, chances are there are no second-hand book of it in stock available, though.
According to the 7th comment to the blog entry, she is Asian American. I followed the link and found out that she is Chinese American. It's bothering to me to search for info about why she made such a website or she is the victim whose photos are used without her permission by somebody.
If you are intersted, it might be possible to find a truth about the site designed to hook a white American.
>>144 Actually, I live in the U.S. and I'm 18, almost 19 years of age.
>>147 It's not that, I just don't have money. I'm in college and I already spent all of my money on these books for this semester and save some for next semester.
>>152 Well, I'm not going to be able to go until I can catch up with my courses in college and when I can afford it. That time most likely won't be until after I graduate.
I know little-to-none Japanese (I know kana, but that's hardly enough to get by with anything). I'm female, 17, and live in the southeast US.
>>148 More than likely, it's just someone using her photos. Someone mentioned a couple days ago while discussing it that it two of the pictures seemed to be at two different places (different apartments). I didn't really understand that though.
> I'm female, 17 to this chaostic thread, the venus arrived!!
anyway According to >>148 and Sylvain Bouchard (http://www.sylvainbouchard.com/wpblog/) we know this site is the fake. but what does this website's master aim? Does he wants to hurt her reputation or hook someone? but mailaddress is useless. I gradually wants to meet him
>>161 sorry, that's the name of the department store in Japan. actually I got confused like you did. i was wondering how americans first pronouce this store name. so you will read as milord? what does milord mean? i couldn't find that from dictionary.
>>162 I looked up "Mylord" and wow! That's a huge depeartment store building. I don't think I've ever been in a building that large. Then again, that could be from having always lived in small places. :) As for pronunciation, I would go with >>161, and say it's probably pronounced as "My Lord"
when i lived in america, that was when i was 19 or 20, american friends gave me a nick name and that was "chai".
now in japan, i tell that story to my foreign friends who are australian, african, french and also american, they are like refuse to call me "chai". they say.. you don't look like "chai". what does that supposed to mean? i couldn't ask them. do "chai" sounds young girld nick name?
>>158 I can't help but wondering how you get to know 2 channel in the first place. When you say, south east US, is it a egion where Virginia, South Dacoda lie? Tennessee can be included?
Do you guys, native speakers here call yourselves Otaku?
>>From what ever number I left off. I am so confused. I leave for the night to sleep and all this happened. Now I have to be careful between my posts and Another Person's posts.
>>176 Actually, that would be Virginia, North and South Carolina, Georgia, etc. I guess you could call me an Otaku. It sort of holds a different meaning over here though.
>>177 Oh, I meant to say South Carolina, not South Dacoda. Seems like my guess in 176 pretty good.
I don't meant to dwell on this but If I remember correctly, Georgia is typical Deep South, not south east. A Person lives in Ohio, right? America is a huge country with various regional culture from what I know.
From the perspective of people living in far away from the Deep South, do you feel Deep South is kind of like a different country?
>>182 Through a website. I forgot what it was, but I was Google searching for Japanese things and a came across a link to here. Plus I read about 2ch on another board before that.
Narrator: Liz just destroyed an ant hill and they are all piling up trying.. Liz: (interrupting) Guess what they are saying Narrator: they are trying to rebuild their fucking civilization Liz: Ahh it's Lizzy Lizzy Narrator: it's a bird, it's a plane Liz: no ??????????
I cant catch what Liz says in the last Please tell me
In ordinary conversation "cryptic" would be use in the context that someone was saying something to you, but it just seemed vague or empty in immediate meaning. Then you would say or think, "He's saying some cryptic things today..."
There are many more uses that are explained at the link I gave.
>>189 thanks. i will try to look up english -> english like dictionary.com. however, sometimes i need direct translation to japanese and i've been using alc.co.jp. how do you think about this web?
>>174 Oh, I thought you meant the grammar was wrong, not word choice. I didn't look at the context the fragment was used in. You're correct that it would be better to say "pronounce" rather than "voice". To voice something means that you vibrate your vocal cords when you pronounce it. Rather than not voice the vowels, they shouldn't pronounce them at all.
>>188 A crypt is a burial place. It is not a common word. The only time I've ever really heard it used was in the title of a former TV series called "Tales from the Crypt" (a horror series).
>>189 If you use Firefox for your web browser, you can get a plugin called rikaichan plus its dicitonaries where you can just click on it and take it to the kana and translate it to english one my one.
It's hard for me to look through that site because I'm so limited in Japanese.
>>191 Actually, it's possible to have unvoiced vowels; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vowels#Phonation . I figured that devoicing the extra vowels would be easier for him than not pronouncing them at all.
>>180 Yes, in some ways the Deep South is very much like another country. America's much bigger and much more varied than one might expect. (I've lived in Chicago, Boston, Texas, Detroit, and San Francisco, so I have first-hand experience with this.)
I've only ever really lived in the south, though I recently moved to here a few weeks ago. It's much different even from other places in the south that I've ever lived in.
You've really only lived in large cities, right? Until I moved here, I'd never lived in a city larger than about 15,000 people!
>>197 There is no real "average" America. There are regional "averages" but there's no real way you can say something is just "average America." More than that, dfferent social classes have different experiences, and each place has different levels of classes.
Deep South IS like another country, but every region (and in some cases, states!) are different from eachother.
About my community, I live in a mixed area. We have people from almost all the regions here in South-Western Ohio. Many companies transfer people here, plus if helps that P&G is based here in Ohio.
>>201 Like I said earlier, americans aren't used to hearing people talk fast. Listening to it again, it sounds like "*Itsy Lizzy!" Or "*Izzie Lizzy!" She might be saying Dizzy Lizzy, Dizzy Miss Lizzie is the name of an old Beatles song.
She's also pretty excited, which makes her voice harder to understand. Not catching what people say is actually pretty common in america, especially in commercials, where people tend to talk faster than normal Not being able to understand at all after a few hearings is less common, but it still happens.
Sometimes people say words so quickly or so oddly that it's hard to tell. In that video, apart from the fact that she was speaking quickly, she didn't say the vowel in the second to last word very loudly, and without that it's very hard to tell what it means.
Like if I said "mOUSE", and I said the "S" so it sounded more like a "SH" it would be hard to know if I said House, Mouse, Couch, Owch, etc.
Not the best example, but I hope it helps you understand.
>>202 This is true! My accent is Greater American (Midwest, I guess? Though I grew up in the South), and many people here tell me I talk too fast. Then again, people talk really slowly here.
(Plus people tend to slur words together; it's one of my bad habits).
Hey, I heard American girls shave their pubic hair. The same goes for Asian descended amrerican girls, too? I very much prefer ones without pubic hair, of course, but there are some different agendas depending on your cultural background, right? Japanese girls shave all the body hair except pubic hair, and Chinese girls (sometimes even pretty ones) dont care about their underarm getting weigh too hairy.
Personally, I do. I just prefer it for several reasons (and guys tend to prefer it) I don't shave ALL of my body hair. I do shave there, and on my legs (and underarms), but I don't shave say, my arms. Though I do have kind of hairy arms. Comes from being a quarter Italian!
>>185 "No, it's just Lizzy Lizzy!" is my interpretation. (I have a terrible time understanding spoken English sometimes, unless I listen to something repeatedly - and even then I get it wrong sometimes. That said, the speaker in that video has a weird accent.)
>>197 Peoria is about two hours south of Chicago, where I grew up; I've been there two or three times. I didn't like it at all - it was boring, really stinky (fermenting soybeans, I think), and was a generic small city. Nothing remarkable about it at all - which is why it passes for average, I guess.
>>201 You can understand Hokkaidou-ben without any problems?
japan sucks more than americans think we must not express real myself we must pretend we must care about other eyes we must not stand out in front of others
>>213 On the other hand, you're allowed to express yourself in other ways much more freely than elsewhere; Japan is widely renowned for coming up with weird artistic stuff that noplace else has.
I think that the "parasite singles" and freeters are probably a good thing; in my very humble opinion, Japan's tatemae and honne have gotten too far apart, and those two groups are bringing them back together.
>>217 Yes! Go abroad! Travel! Become NEET if you feel like it. Travel's great for seeing the world and finding out what you really value.
>>227 Thanks for the answer. Does "the equivalent of 2ch" really exist in the US or other parts of the world? Could you name one? As far as I know, there is no 2channel type system outside Japan.
>>228 4chan.org is the american equivilent of 2ch/futaba (that's the term, yes?) If I recall, Japanese IPs are blocked (due to invasions from people from here when it first opened)
There are many 2ch type systems outside of Japanese ones :) I can name a few. There are a HUGE amount of imageboards.
Mostly the people who go on them are people who admire Japan/anime/art work from Japan/Japanese Women Do you know the term "Japanophile?"
I guess since I'm here, I could easily be classified as one, but I have no intentions of ever going to Japan.
>>230 I am American; I'm not very good at writing though :) I guess I can't really PROVE that I'm American. It's currently 10:34am in Montgomery Alabama; the sun is shining, but I haven't been outside yet, so I can't tell you the temperature.
But English is the only language that I speak. What do you want me to say? Anhyong haseyo?
>>223 I totally disagree with you on your first paragraph. I m only guessin, but you are talking about some anime and game stuffs right? What about other things goin on in Japan, they are almost all mimicking of America. I adimit that there are some creativity in japanese culture, but considering number of population and country's wealthiness, we should do much better. Cuz we can have lots of oppotunities. I'm saying there are obviously cultural constraint to Japanese people's creativity, and Japanese creativity is definitely poor. They are so afraid to make mistakes by expressing their thought, feeling, or values. And, if you express too much of your original thoughts, people would say it is "kimoi".
>>229 Thanks again for your answer, Sarah! Is the adminstrator of 4chan an American? I think the name 4 channel must be grammatically wrong. Isn't it unacceptable to Americans?
>>233 Americans have problems with grammar anyhow. Most americans don't know about 4chan. It's mostly something only known to those who are into the internet/Japanese things. The average person might know what anime is, but certainly not 4chan. Plus many people don't even know that the "chan" in it stands for "channel" and not "-chan" It's kind of hard to explain it.
NEET is a popular topic in japan NEET is very increasing. the reason they become NEET is because they cant communicate with others they have no friends or few they are afraid of talking with others anthrophobia is folk disease in japan so they wont go into society this is because japanese care about other eyes too much
>>236 Yes, I've had breakfast. I guess I'm kind of a shut-in. It's a long story. I like some anime, but I'm not a fanatic. I did like Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu though!
>>234 No, "reasons why" is not the same as "the reasons why." "Reasons why" is basically the same as saying "some reasons why." I meant "way," not "place." Place would work too, but "way" says it differently. How do I explain it?
I've seen much worse mistakes from other Americans. Many people my age don't even type out "you" and use "u" instead, or "r" for "are"/"our." It's sad.
>>239 4chan is mostly known for /b/, which is just where many shock/gross photos are too. If you're going to go to any of the English *chans, iichan/wakachan is the way to go. I wish the Range Murata board were back up.
>>241 Haha, there are't that many actual "conservative" girls left in the US anymore. :p The only "conservative" girls are (usually) stuck-up Christian girls.
"Southern Belles" are only something I've heard about existing a hundred years ago.
>>241 Southern Belle is usually a reference to a pretty Southern girl. It was a common term during the U.S. Civil War era. Now-a-days you won't hear that term just thrown out at any time. Conservative, in a sexual context,is mostly exhibited by devout religious people.
>>238 Japanese government should create the society where those extreme introverts can live peacefully, then. Why do we have to go outside and interact with others, anyways? We can do it by internet nowadays. Well, maybe in the West, people are nice and happy chatin with others. But most Japanses are not. We are really struggling to adjust ourselves to western culture. Japanese dont need to westernized if people dont want.
>>248 There are a large amount of people in the west who are not good with interacting outside either. I'm not very good with it. Even so, there are reasons for people to go outside anyhow.
Even so, I don't really understand what "westernized" means.
>>250 Many people know "of" him (or atleast know a film or two). Spirited Away is probably the only thing anyone here knows. I don't want to say "famous." I guess he's fairly well known.
>>252 That's what's taught over here, which is a shame. I wish American schools would go more for teaching them to use protection. Abstinence IS the only sure-fire way (though condoms, with correct use, will provide protection) I blame lack of teaching kids to use correct protection for the amount of single mothers/teenage mothers.
>> 253 There are a lot of people who don't, too! I've never found it particularly appealing.
>>255 Much of the south is black (for instance, where I'm living right now is 45% white, 45% back), so KKK isn't something that exists much anymore There still is a lot of racial tension though, and there are still some KKK-factions, but certainly not many.
>>256 Well, there are girls who are conservative in sex. Many, infact, but it's not rare or unusual for a girl to be liberal about sex now.
As for Southern Belle, it's mostly a joke term now-a-days, isn't it?
Because of rampant AIDS and all plus Britney Spears declared she would keep her veriginity until getting married, I heard being verigin became kind of cool in US at one time.
What about contraseptive pills? Here in Japan the medicine started being used only a few years ago because it had been used strictly for a medical use.
>>260 Hahahah. I'm sorry. Britney Spears as a virgin just makes me giggle. Being a virgin I don't think has really ever been "cool" for a long time in the US.
For myself, I don't see that it's "cool" to be a virgin. I would rather not be one. A lot of guys prefer if the girl isn't a virgin. Virgin girls tend to be clingyer after sex, or they think more of sex than they should.
>>261 Birth-control pills are in wide-use. I plan to get on them soon. They have more use than just contraceptive. They also help with hormonal problems.
As far as I know, they've been in wide-use for a pretty long time.
>>232 Yeah, for artistic things in general. There's a lot of copying of American things (from what I saw when I visited Tokyo), but the way it's interpreted was completely foreign to me. It was quite difficult to figure out that some things were supposed to be American or in English.
>>238 It took me a while to realize why people read or napped so much on the subways: to avoid having to make eye contact.
>>241 "Southern Belle", yeah. Most of the southern chicks I know and like are hell-raisers - not conservative at all.
>>261 I've heard pills are used widely in America. Very popular, I think. The rate of avoiding being pregnant is about 99 per cent. It's higher than using condoms.
>>268 Well, for people who don't want to risk pregnancy at all, they use both condoms and contraceptive. If the condom breaks, the pill is still there to keep the risk as low as possible.
>>250>>254 I'd say that more people have heard of Totoro or Princess Mononoke than Spirited Away. (It didn't help that Disney took forever to release his older films.)
>>273 Actually, most important of all is that you don't have the lowered-sensation from having a condom on. Any guy who has had sex with a condom and then without will say that it feels different.
(And nearly always, that without a condom feels better).
>>262 She is married to a dancer as far as I know.
>>263 >A lot of guys prefer if the girl isn't a virgin.
Isn't that because guys don't take having a sex with a girl seriously? Let's say my girlfriend has very good skills in blowjobs. What comes in my mind is that her ex-boyfriends in the past taught her how to do it skillfully. That makes me turn off.
>>277 I've heard of a few people who prefered girls who are innocent, but many guys here would rather the girl know what to do, and not to put too much emotion behind it.
Sex doesn't mean much to everyone. To me, sex is just something biological; not really important. Is it strange there to have sex with someone who isn't a boyfriend/girlfriend?
From a medical's point of view, I think the world that Hayao Miyazaki created in Spirited Away somehow resembles delusion caused inside a schzoid's brain. The mix of the Western and the Eastern, the old and the new... That really captures the circumstances that this country is in now.
>>280 I have to admit here in Japan, some youngsters have sex with someone who's not their boyfriend/girlfriend. Personally I don't like their attitude toward sex. Sex shouldn't be just to release sexual desire. I love innocent woman far more than a woman who takes sex casually and don't mind having sex with a man who is not her boyfriend.
>>283 I think I am at the opposit end compared with you.
>>287 See, I prefer having relationships where sex is something good and special, but not... How do I explain it?
I don't want sex to be something important. Good, special, yes, but not put on a pedestal. I can understand the liking for someone innocent, though. It's fun to teach people new things.
I would rather have sex with a boyfriend though, to be honest.
>>286 このkind of は 「一種の〜」の意味じゃなくて 「ちょっと〜」という意味のkind of ?? しかも辞書には後ろには形容詞がきてkind of hungryみたいな意味を表すと書いてるけど このアメリカ人の場合はa bitと同じような使い方してるってこと?? ということはThat confuses me kind of . という言い方もできるの??
In Japan, small number of high school girls have a sex with a middle-aged man to get some money. The girls post on the internet bulletin board to find a man who gives them a money in exchange for a sex.
>>294 No, it would be illegal for most highschool girls here. The Age of Consent here is usually around 16~18, depending on state. Plus, any operation like that would get shut down very quickly. It's prostitution.
>>299 Of course it's illegal in japan too But lots of girls do that for easy money. Some are filmed for additional money , and end up being widely circulated over the internet and I'm glad. lol
>>293 Why should you be afraid of commitment? Sex should come with commitment. They can't be seperable. If you are in love with your girlfriend and think of the relationship seriously, there's nothing to be afraid of about commitment. That's my opinion.
>>303 Some college-aged girls (not very many) get filmed having sex for money, to pay for tuition costs. It's rare, however. (But it can't be THAT rare, based on the huge amount of porn).
I'm sure there are some girls who get paid for it, but I've never met any. I know of more kids who sell prescription drugs for quick money. I would rather just get a part-time job.
>>304 Haha, Jews are no different than anyone else. There's no one that "rules the world" behind a curtain. Except for that man behind the curtain; don't look at him!
>>305 How so? I'm not actually practicing. I recently moved, and I've been looking for a Synagogue to attend.
>>309 Here it would be the men too. The girl (if she's under 18) is not the one at fault. Of course, it's all just about "if you get caught" isn't it?
>>310 Really? Drugs are pretty common here, but it's not like everyone uses them. I'd say the majority is against drugs. But a large amount of people prefer sticking to "it's their choice."
>>311 The presents are just small things, like chocolate coins or tangerines (my favorite food!) or small trinkets. My family celebrates Christmas though. The tree, the lights, the hundreds of dollars of presents.
Channukah (there are about 10 different spellings) is just a minor Holiday. At the end of September and the beginning of October, that's when the two major holidays were. Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. It's interesting!
I grew up Christian, even though half of my family is Jewish, so I've never been able to learn much about it.
>>306 That's fine. You are ready to get settled and have a family but some of us want to go out with boyfriends/ girlfriends without getting so much involved.
>>319 That's a fine opinion! For me, I think it's OK to have sex for fun as long as you know the person fairly well. Maybe not in a relationship with, but atleast friends with.
>>321 It's not an argument! :) It's just two people stating opinions. My opinion is my opinion, your opinion is your opinion. Neither is right or wrong.
>>326 No, I haven't slept yet. I stayed up all night, so hopefully this will be a good LOOONG sleep. Have a good night! I'll be back around some other time.
>>228 4-ch.org, 4chan.org, 7chan.org are all popular english 2chan like boards But 4chan is made of very weird people...
>>230 Oh yes she can. Many americans have poor english skills, either because of the poor schools, or just because most people have bad english, everyone who speaks well gets lazy
lots of girls here will let themselves be filmed for some cash. If you ever watch TV past 11PM in the US, cable channels will usually have ads for "Girls Gone Wild", a very popular series based off this.
Drugs here aren't exactly rare, most (I think about half) of americans will have at least tried drugs by the time they're through college, even if they don't admit it. Most people don't care about drugs too much, but they don't use them only because they're illegal.
I've been gone for a couple hours and so many posts have been made... >>333 I've met plenty of people that have been or are smoking pot. I just look at them sometimes and think that they are real idiots because most of the time they act like idiots. >>335 Suicide methods? I wouldn't go by suicide. It's such as bad way to go.
>>337 I don't think my school did. >>339 Yeah, why not? This is a good thread anyways. I came here because it's a little more lively than the English Info thread.
Are Japanophiles the people who like anime, the fashion, all the KAWAII things such as Hello Kitty? Do they happen to be interested in Japanese traditional culture as well as the pop culture?
>>341 It depends. There are some (like me) that are interested in all parts of japan. Then there are those that go around watching DBZ and screaming "DESUDESUDESU".
A lot of american kids like anime, but not many care beyond that.
>>345 It's a joke from Rozen Maiden where Suiseiseki (sp?) would say "desu" a lot or something. I've never seen it.
As for me, I watch anime/dramas a lot (not just limited to Japanese ones; I like some Korean/Taiwanese ones too, but Japanese ones tend to have the best production), and I'm interested in the language, but I'm not one of the Japanophile kids that thinks that they'd fit in better in Japan. I know that in Japan, I would never actually fit in there. I don't want to live there, though I guess I would visit if I had money.
>>344 Best way to study Japanese here are in classes. I'm a soon-to-be college student, and if it's available, I might take it. Will it actually be useful in my future? More than likely not.
>>341 A lot of people are interested in Japan, but the biggest sign of being a JAPANOPHILE is thinking that Japan is perfect. That Japan can do no wrong. A lot of Japanophiles are anime fans who think that anime is just like real life.
>>337 No, no axes. :) There are lots of fire extinquishers, though. There are no weapons kept in schools (except for the School's police officers; they're usually armed).
Oh, and I'm awake again! Good evening for me, good morning for you, right?
>>347 I want to go into some area of scientific research. Hopefully, meteorology (weather-forecasting).
I'm not really someone who can do business, but there is a company near by called "Denso" (Full name is Nippon Denso) that will hire you for knowing Japanese.
Then again, Japan does have different weather patterns. I would be happy researching it anywhere.
>>348 Are you aiming to be an actual weather person on TV as well as behind camera, or just behind the camera? I always thought meteorology was a cool area to get into, but I never really felt that it was my passion area.
>>349 I don't want to be the person on TV. Being one of the people behind the scenes is what I'd want. But what I really want is to do research. To me, research makes the biggest impact.
Learning Japanese is very difficult for English speaking people, so I don't reccomend it. Japanese culture is shallow and boring. Nothing to be learned from it.
>>332 Thanks for the post. I should've spelled Belle.
>>348 I'm not 100% sure but Denso is one of the affiliated company of Toyota. Maybe owned by Toyota. If my memory serves right, it is a company that manufacures air conditioner desigened for a car.
Japan has four seasons and the rainy season that lasts for a month from end of june to end of July, too. Summer in Japan is hot and humid. I've heard America's South has hot and humid weather compared to California.
>>350 I'm currently majoring in Computer Science. >>351 Just like how some people might want to learn about our culture and the English language, we do the same in the opposite. We grew up here and find our society to be shallow and boring, so we seek to learn about other cultures. It's sort of an adventurous side of people. They want to seek down something new outside of their world.
It depends where you are for weather. I can explain two of the places I've lived in.
Western Arkansas: Long summers, from around late April to October, usually started at about 90, peaking at about 105 during the middle of summer, and then dropping sometime around September and October. It doesn't rain very much during the summer, so it's a really horrible dry heat. Short Autumn, mild winter, short spring.
Eastern Tennessee: It's very humid most of the time, but I prefer when it's humid. The winters are mild, but kind of cold to me (I can't take the cold) The springs and falls are generally pretty long. East Tennessee does have a sort of a rainy season during the spring months, and very rarely gets anywhere near a drought. We had droughts often when I lived in Arkansas.
I live in South Alabama now, and I was born in Northern Ohio, but I was very young when I lived in Ohio, so I don't remember how the weather was. Anytime that I've visited though, it's usually been very overcast. I haven't lived long enough in Alabama to know the weather, but it's been in the 80s-90s (Fahrenheit, I don't know Celcius) since I've been here.
>>354 This is very true :) A culture might seem "shallow" or "boring" to someone that's in it, but to a person outside, it's something they've never seen before. People can either resent them for being different from them, or they can be interested in them. I prefer to take an interest and learn about it.
he- americans use Fahrenheit !!! why don't they use Celcius?? everybody else uses Celsius, right? and every scientific field uses Celcius, so what's the point in stubbonly using Fahrenheit?? Please become the president of the US and change it.
>>357 Unlike the rest of the world, we have had different scales of measure for almost everything. The legislation to change all standard measurements to the metric system failed horribly because the politicians believed it would be too "big" of a project to do. What they really didn't want to do was probably spend the tax money for furthering education on the metric system even though we learn about it anyway since elementary school. So, my point is, the possibility of being able to change measurement systems for anything here is slim to none even if you are the president. (Sorry)
>>357 Because by this time, it's difficult to just switch it. I used to know the formula for going from Fahrenheit to Celcius, but I forgot it. Telling 300,000,000 people to stop using Fahrenheit RIGHT NOW is something difficult to do, and not a decision made by the president :)
I would use Celcius instead if it weren't for the fact that everything here is in Fahrenheit.
Plus, changing to Fahrenheit would be when we all change over to actually using the metric system too, right?
>>354 Start up a company like Google, then. :) Is it easy for comuter science major students to master HTML or other programming?
>>355 Thank you for going into expaling the weather of the places where you've lived in. Seems like American south has hot summer as I've heard. I live where it's winter is mild, Hiroshima. (You guys maybe know the city because of A-bombing.) I said mild but still in winter, it snows and snow piles up and cause traffic accidents or trains stop running because of heavy snow. Flights is cancelled and all.
>>361 Yes, that's the only way I've ever heard of Hiroshima.
In Tennessee, it doesn't snow much. It might snow two days during the winter, and it's only an inch at most of snow. But because of how the land is (Mountains/valleys all over), they would close school even for a small amount.
I wish I could live somewhere with long falls and long winters. :( Maybe I should move to the northern west coast.
That sounds like a fairly severe winter to me. Mild to me is when it doesn't snow very much at all. :(
many americans deny science and believe blindly what the bible says so the metric system is useless for most americans few people who believe science(considered as insane by many) take the trouble of learning the metric system that's my impression
>>361 Like Google? Haha! That would be a difficult undertaking. Google already has a firm grip on anything internet. However, if I do pick up HTML, I will try to think of something innovative that I can release on the internet. Maybe then Google would buy it...
By the way, weather in Ohio is very mixed. We have a hot/mildly humid summer, a warm-cold fall and spring, and a winter that can range from really bad snow to just freezing rain. Of course, Ohio sits on pretty much a swirling vortex where air from the north and south pretty much meet.
We used very different measuring systems for such a long time. SHAKU, for length, KAN, for weight, RI, for the distance, and many more...
I remember my great grandmother had difficulty in saying the new meteric systems... Japan had to change the systems to catch up with the rest of the world.
>>363 Many americans; not all. The majority of people do not go by the bible. It's not a "few people who believe science." Please, don't think that that is true. Yes, there are a lot of people who go by the bible, but not the majority, and they aren't "considered insane."
Pretty much any kid who has gone through school has learned that the metric system is a better system, but we all know that it would be too difficult to switch everything over in a short amount of time. It would take a lot of time and a lot of effort and money to switch it over at all.
And it's not that we don't learn the metric system. We learn the metric system in school. There are some classes where you only use the metric system, too. It's just that because everything else is in SI format, we don't use it in day-to-day life.
There are many Americans that are religious, but we are also secular in many ways. If we were all raving Bible "fanatics" we wouldn't have the type of shows we have on TV here.
>>367 It wasn't in the south, it was in the west. In Salt Lake City, Utah, which is known for a type of Christianity known as Mormonism (generally though of as kind of bad by many people), and has some people who practice polygamy through it. The man wasn't arrested just for polygamy.
>>368 Yeah, our TV shows aren't very secular at all, unless you're watching a Christian station. It's my secret love, but I really really love watching Bravo and Style network. All the men might be gay, but boy oh boy, do I love the shows.
It seems in modern days not so many people can stay religious. Americans are not so religious, nor are the Japanese, but it seems the idea,LOVE and SERVICE, is still a strong element in your society.
that poligamist leader is also a child predetor that's why he was arrested i watched it in larry king live larry king is getting old and I will be sad to see him go larry king live has taught me English a lot
>>373 Yes, that's why. What else do you watch besides Larry King Live? I don't watch news or talk shows like that. I mostly watch primetime TV shows (like crime dramas such as CSI or NCIS or Law & Order)
>>371 Can you tell me what you mean by love and service being a strong element here?
most americans think global warming is a myth american public schools teach creationism as science public school students are forced to say pledge of allegiance with one nation under God in it in trial, one swears to God to tell the truth the president swear in with one hand one the bible God bless America
it is not God vs science, though america is a God-centered country is my impression
>>375 Most americans know global warming is true We don't teach creationism anymore in most schools We're not forced to say the pledge. Yes, it's usualy said, but you won't get in trouble for not saying it. A large amount of student prefer not to say it, and that's fine too. For swearing to god, it's just meerly a way of saying "I won't lie."
America is NOT God-centric. Yes, there are many people who believe in god. I believe in God, because that's my religion. I won't deny that "God" is something important in the US, but it does not rule everyones life.
People seem to be interested in taking part of volunteering. Students are adviced to and willing to play with handicapped children and participate in many kinds of aids regardless of their religions.
I think those activities are based on their religions. Here, 90 percent of the people don't believe in anything. We use christian weddings, Buddhist funerals, Shinto for celebrating newborn babies....There aren't any strong belief in doing those.
>>378 I know very few people who do volunteering. Many people will donate to charity when they see someone taking donations. True, when I was in school, we did help out with the handicapped children a lot.
I don't think these activities are really based on religion though, but on feeling empathy for other people.
>>375 Okay, here it goes: 1. SOME Americans think global warming is a myth and it is those few that are voicing their opinions. However, global warming is a real thing that naturally happens, but us humans are speeding the process along. 2.No, public schools do not teach creationism as science just like they don't teach evolution. Rather they "mention" both possibilities and say that it depends on the students' beliefs. 3. The pledge of allegiance has been around since the creation of the nation. Now, arguements to taking it out is reserved for a national political movement, however seeing that God can be taken through any religion with a God, then I think it works. 4. That was a practice from the early days of the nation. Now I believe that they have a more secular approach depending on region. I believe some courts just do the whole, "Do you swear to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth." part only now. 5. That's song that's been around since pretty much the creation of the nation. 6. It completely depends on the area and region. If it is conservative, you are most likely going to see religious people. If it is liberal, then maybe secular. However, you have to consider that religion isn't entirely a bad thing. In government it shouldn't be tied in, but in individual lives it plays a part of giving hope and morals. You can't make judgements until you've been around the real society.
No strong beliefs...because the same people go to go to shrines for blessing babies, go to churches for their own weddings and go to temples or use Buddhist priests to practice their funerals... How could we have strong beliefs in doing that?
A Christian wedding is just chosen because it's romantic and you get to wear a taxido and a white weddind dress. Most of us don't know any christian beliefs. We like it because it's prettier...
>>385 I know where you're coming from. That's quite understandable. There are plenty of people that don't believe in God that have their weddings in churches anyway.
I guess ◆gFIdoOIh.U and other Japanese who are good enough at English and has posted here long messages who can get their ideas across in English is old guys like me.
It takes a long period of time and perseverance and efforts for average Japanese English learners, not inculuding who has lived English-speaking countries, to be able to express their ideas in English.
>>374 In Japan, those prime time TV shows are not available like in america. popular ones are imported from america i watch them when they are availave in japan my favorite shows are; Full House(NHK is doin reruns at seven on tusedays), Beverly Hills90210, 24, Lost, They are all somewhat popular in Japan. CSI or Law&Order is not as popular. Why CSI's or without a trace or those crime dramas are popular in the US? Is there any reason?
Prime-time viewership numbers compiled by Nielsen Media Research for Oct. 9-15. 1. Grey's Anatomy, ABC, 22.88 million viewers. 2. CSI, CBS, 21.85 million viewers. 3. Desperate Housewives, ABC, 20.64 million viewers. 4. Dancing with the Stars, ABC, 20.10 million viewers. 5. Dancing with the Stars Results Show, ABC, 18.21 million viewers. 6. CSI: NY, CBS, 17.97 million viewers. 7. NFL Post Game Show, CBS, 17.96 million viewers. 8. CSI: Miami, CBS, 17.61 million viewers. 9. 60 Minutes, CBS, 17.28 million viewers. 10. Lost, ABC, 16.89 million viewers. 11. Criminal Minds, CBS, 16.73 million viewers. 12. Two and a Half Men, CBS, 16.38 million viewers. 13. NCIS, CBS, 15.86 million viewers. 14. Survivor: Cook Islands, CBS, 15.84 million viewers. 15. Deal or No Deal (Monday), NBC, 15.41 million viewers. 16. Without a Trace, CBS, 15.17 million viewers. 17. Extreme Makeover: Home Edition, ABC, 14.90 million viewers. 18. ER, NBC, 14.58 million viewers. 19. Shark, CBS, 14.15 million viewers. 20. Cold Case, CBS, 13.97 million viewers.
>>389 Full House? The American one from the early 90s? I've never seen 90210; I was too young when it aired. People like to watch Crime Dramas. I don't know why; I enjoy watching them too.
I have seen many Japanese dramas (like Hana Yori Dango and others) How popular are those?
I don't watch 24 or Lost (I just don't really like them. Not interesting to me)
I'm off to attend an English language school, which at least gives me an opportunity to use the language. Other than that, I rarely have any chance. Thank you all for answering my quetions. See you.
>>391 HanaYoriDando was really popular with average ratings of 20% or so, which is a big suscess in Japan. I think that drama is based on a comic book, so many of the comic book fans watched it. And the story is set in a school. Japanese people loves school dramas. (I don't know why) OH! Hanayori has Matsujun in it!! That's why...
>>399 Not everyone in America is arrogant. You can't say "America is arrogant." America isn't one person. The US is too varied between areas, people, social standings, and beliefs.
Which country are the Americans concerned about, Iran or North Korea? We Japanese don't have much information about Iran issues. Few media provide us with them.
I'm not so familiar with dramas these days but I know these two dramas. I haven't watched them though. No. I watched the first episode of Nobuta wo produce.
The reason why dramas whose setting is at school are popular I guess is that bullying, friendship, club activity after school, and relationship if their setting is co-ed school, are the theme of the dramas and kids can relate to them.
Kids root for some chareacters in a drama who has a lot in common with them.
I don't know to what extent MatsuJun is popular in US but he sure is popular here, too. He is a member of a boys group called " Arashi", right?
One famous Japanese talent agency called "Jannie's (sp?) Office" or rather "Jannie's agency"? has produced so many popular boys groups since it started business i show bizz arena.
The two men who starred "Nobuta wo Produce" (I guess you can say two boys and one girl costarred the drama.) are both in Jannie's office, although they are originally from different boys group each other. Not from the same boys group with Matsujun either. (The two boys in Nobuta has released one single tune paired, though.)
I remember "A Person" writing the same expression somewhere. Is it the same as "based on?" If so, I think both two expressions are pretty interesting because they mean the same thing while using a proposition that has the opposite meaning, "off" and "on."
>>398 yes! Nobuta wo produce LOL you know alot about Japanese dramas!! That drama too was popular, but not as popular as Hana Yori Dango.. with a decent 16%〜18% range i think.
I don't know how popular MatsuJun is among those american girls, but I think his popularity in Japan is not so high like it used to be when Arashi came up because of the new Johnnys stars like Kamenashi( Kat-tun) or YamaP(News)- . But among Arashi menbers, I think he is the most successful. He is doing MC of a primetime show with Ayaya. I think. The rest of Arashi, I don' know anything about them. Oh , of course they sell CDs a lot but not as well as Kat-tun or Tokio or Smap or V6 or Takki-, oh Takky and Tsubasa doesn't sell CDs much.... Johnny's wota are really crazy.
>>406 Yeah, it's one of my secret-loves. I really love watching dramas. My favorite of any of the Japanese dramas was one called Yasashii Jikan (it had Nino in it!). Have you heard of/seen it?
MatsuJun isn't someone that would be popular in the US unless you're someone who watches Japanese dramas (there aren't many people who do, since for most people they're hard to find).
>>408 I'm going to infer that you defined some of the things we've said, and thank you very much if you have :)
>>405 Yes, it means the same thing. "off of" won't always mean the same as "on" though. Such as, "Get off of me!" does not mean "Get on me!" at all!
Back to MatsuJun and other stars, I don't really like most J-pop too much. I like a few Japanese indie bands though. A friend recently got me into some bands like ACIDMAN and downy and Spangle Call Lilli Line (really loving this band!). Have you heard of them before?
>>411 Actually, I wouldn't put "Sarah" in katakana as サラ. I would use セイラ, personally. I'm guessing that the first line is "Sarah doesn't know Japanese," but my Japanese (like I've said) is only limited to kana and a few kanji. I have no idea what the last line is :(
>>404 Most kids here opt for learning Spanish (since for many jobs now, it's required to know Spanish), but the average school will also offer French, and in some cases German. Schools with better funding, or schools in more populated areas tend to offer more languages.
The school I went to offered Spanish, French, and German.
In West Philadelphia I was born and raised On the playground is where I spent most of my days. Chillin' out, maxin', relaxin all cool, And all shootin' some b-ball outside of the school. When a couple of guys who were up to no good, Started makin' trouble in my neighborhood. I got in one little fight and my mom got scared, And said "You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in bel Air." I whistled for a cab, and when it came near, The license plate said "fresh" and it had dice in the mirror.
If anything I could say that this cat was rare, But I thought "Nah forget it, Yo home to Bel Air." I pulled up to the house about seven or eight, and I yelled to the cabby "Yo homes, smell ya later." Looked at my kingdom, I was finally there, To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel Air.
Sarah, you seem to live with your mother. Do most of university students in the U.S. start living by themselves? In Japan it is not that rare that single men and women over thirty still live with their parents because of our housing problems. Renting is rather expensive and younger workers usually don't get paid so much. Co-dependence between mothers and their grown-up children is a kind of problem here. What do you think of that?
>>From where I left off... Man, you guys are out to kill me. So many posts... >>405 In that context "based off of" is the same meaning as "based on". However, just like Sarah said, "off of" and "on" can mean two different things. In most cases outside of basing books and media to other things, "off of" and "on" take on the literal meaning.
Example: 1. That movie was based off of another book. (same) 2. That movie was based on another book. (same)
1. Get off of the couch and mow the lawn! (X) 2. Get on the couch. (X)
But in usual cases of using "off" it is used alone.
>>423 What I mean is, if you want to refer to one book that has taken the main concept of another as its own then it is "based" on that other book. Let's take Jurassic Park for example. That was a movie (media) based off of a book. Remixes and covers of songs are based off of the original song.
Now, the usage of "off of" or "on" that is not related to comparing two things (such as media) is different. "Off of" and "on" don't carry the same meaning as they do when comparing or relating objects. And that's what I mean by, "In most cases outside of basing books and media to other things".
>>425 In the context of comparing media and books, yes it does. Examples: 1. This book is based off of a poem. = This book is based from a poem. However, in the following contect "off of" and "from" won't hold the same meaning. 1. Come off of the mountain and go in to town. 2. Come from the mountain and go in to town.
In 1, the person on the mountain is told to to climb down the mountain to town. But, in 2, the person could just be by the mountain or anywhere near the mountain then told to go into town.
>>424 It's around midnight here and I am kind of tired. It took me reading 424 again and again to understand what you mean, but now I understand completely what you mean.
>>428 You're welcome. I've only covered the tip of the whole discussion though. There is much more to it, but that would take a very long time to explain every single meaning. >>430 The thing about English is that there are many nuances. They tend to be annoying because even as a native speaker, when I read something, I might have to take a second glance to make sure I got the meaning right. Contextual differences tell you the meaning in most cases.
>>421 I'm still underaged (17), so I can't move out. I can't legally move out until I'm 18.
Most University students start of living in dormatories (housing provided by the schools), so most students do start off by living away from home. After that, most parents expect the children to move off and live alone.
It's weird for a child to be living at home past about 22 or 23 here. It depends on the city, but I don't think our housing costs are as much.
For housing where my sister lives, she pays $570 (about 57,000Y right?) for a two bedroom apartment (and she splits that three way between her, her boyfriend, and her friend). That's a smaller town though, so it's cheaper. In other cities, it can be around 900$(90,000Y) for a one-bedroom apartment or more.
>>435 That's my everyday :) I haven't got anything to do in my life until NEXT Fall, so my current day-to-day life is kind of abnormal. I recently moved as well, so I'm trying to get some things straightened out.
>>441 443 is correct.In grammar, the subject is important because it says who or what did the action. If you made that lyric, you might need to change the melody to fit it.
I'll wirte something I always find kind of uncomfortable. It's the way Americans sit in a chair when talikng with Japanese in an interview setting and such.
I often see them crossing their legs while talikng even in a formal setting. US Defense Secretary Condoriza (<---not sure of the spelling) Rice kept her legs crossed while talking with the Japanese counterpart.
OK, it's a part of your culture, but when in Japan, do as the Japanese do. Crossing legs when talking in formal setting is really rude and looks arrogant. She was in Japan and talking with the top of Japanese Forign Affairs Ministry. Seeing her legs crossed was disgusting and annoynig to me.
If they were talking in the US, it's OK but she was in Japan. Go with the Japanese manners, Miz Rice when you are in Japan. Behave yourself.
Well..... Let's say someone is invited to talk on TV show with the host of the program. I've heard that it's good and recommended to show that he is enjoying the interview and relaxing. Does he/she cross their legs as a way to show the host that he's enjoying the interview, as a sign to show that he is relaxing and having fun to let the host know he is?
>>432 It's about the same here. In the Tokyo metoropolitan areas, it costs 70.000 yen to 12.000 yen (a month) to rent a 2 bedroom apartment. It's just that usually we don't share an apartment, though sharing an apartment has come in as a new thing among university students.
I think "Yasashii" culture comes from our co-reliance, mainly between men and women,mothers and sons, and mothers and daughters... It seems in western countries, independence is respected more than in our country. that's why children are expected to have self-reliance, being strong, whereas in Asian countries, children are children however old they grow to be. Grown-up children expect their middle-aged parents to look after them. Middle aged parents are willing to support their university going children...
>>447 Men usually cross their legs as a way of relaxing over here. So it can understandably be seen as a rude gesture. However, it is a little different for women. Women generally cross their legs to hide the "essentials". It is considered a womanly manner. I understand the culture differences, but habits are habits and the people briefing her evidentally didn't do a good job telling her about your customs.
>>449 Of course, I would. It's not the matter of gender to me.
I often get disgusted when I watch on TV musicians, (doen't matter if male or female,) from US on tour in Japan are sitting in a chair arrogantly with their legs crossed all the way through the interview.
But that is kind of in a casual setting so I just hold up.
>>450 >Probably she wasn't aware of the cultural difference.
I can't stand a person who represents one country with authority in charge of foreign affairs doesn't know how to behave. It's not her to be blame, though. Make her or all US high ranking officials in charge of foreign affairs take manner classes.
Actually I know what you mean and cannot but feel the same way, and then I've got to keep reminding myself that they are from a completely differnt culture...
I was surprised that someone like you who speaks English so well feel the same I feel...
>>451 > Women generally cross their legs to hide the "essentials".
I didn't know that. But all she had to do was wearing pants. She knew her destination beforehand, which is Japan where crossing legs in a formal wetting is considered rude.
This is an interesting subject. On a related topic, bowing is the traditional greeting in Japan, but the handshake is the common North American way of greeting. How often are handshakes used in Japanese business culture?
>>453 I'm sorry about the rudeness that you see in "Western" manners. However, she is not the Ambassador to Japan. The ambassador I would expect to exhibit Japanese manners, but employing every single state politician to learn just your nation's customs and manners is rather impractical. If we were to have our politicians do that, then just imagine how many other customs the politicians would have to learn. Example: Rice made visits to Europe, Middle East, Asia (China and Japan as well as S. Korea.) Then you have to take into account that each nation within Europe and the Middle East has its own little niche.
It wasn't neccessarily Rice's fault but her advisor for not telling her the customs and polite manners involved. Besides, I'd be more disgusted by the state of the world than a person's manners.
What are you talking about? Where did you learn you should look so? Courtesy and politeness are inportant factors that tells what you are like, i think. But why do you ( not we) think you need to be meek?
Now I see you are upset about what I said. I tried not to look arrogant as a child, because people around me didn't like that. "Meek" might not be the right word.
>>459 Let me explain why I need to be "meek". Meek from the dictionary says humbly patient under provacation. Provacation often entails trying to cause a rise out of someone. I understand the polite/manners involved and I perfectly agree that they need to exhibited when in formal settings. Courtesy and politeness do give first impressions on a person, and it is the most understandable point.
What I am trying to say is that government advisors tell the actual politician how the behave. So Rice was not completely at fault for her actions.
I've learned that "Westerners" are more laxed in mannerisms, however our professional mannerisms are different. Men do not cross their legs during meetings and professional settings because, yes, it is rude. Women from a young age learn to cross their legs in a closed V rather than a T shape because it is a polite manner since long ago. So, it is a natural habit by them. These manners have always been passed down through generations.
>>458 America's relationship with other countries didn't start yesterday. There has to be accumulated knowledge on deifferences in cultures and manners for people in charge in US government.
Somehow, seeing Americans keep their legs crossed in formal setting on TV always catch my eyes all the time and is annoying.
Probably Japanese politicians have done something rude while traveling overseas, too.
Well I think I got my point across. Thanks for reading.
Where I live, in the San Francisco Bay Area, an average 1 bedroom apartment is around $1000 (i.e. 1100円), and a 2 bedroom around $1500. Tokyo apartments struck me as cheap.
>>464 Let me say that our politicians come into office just yesterday compared to other nations. Here's a thing to consider, is it only Americans that cross their legs in formal settings on TV? Do you ever notice other people, like Europeans or whatever, showing this behavior?
Since it is an international affair, how would you imagine Rice would be conceived over here if your legs weren't crossed, now that you know "Western lady mannerisms"?
Then there is mannerisms vs. the world affairs. If you were under high stress and just became the Secretary of State after Colin Powell, would you have the nerve to remember EVERY single minute detail of mannerisms?
These are things that I consider. I try to put myself in the shoes of the person. Why do they do the things they do? Once in a while, people must think outside of the box and consider the other side of the line. What is it like to actually be a politician, a musician, a foreigner, an American, etc.
>>468 I have to admit my brain doesn't function well enough now after expressing what I thought in English. I wrote and read lots of Enlgish today and I'm in the mood for going outside and breath a fresh air or something. I haven't eat lunch yet, too.
>>471 Okay, it's fair enough. Let me correct one sentence here: "Since it is an international affair, how would you imagine Rice would be conceived over here if your legs weren't crossed, now that you know "Western lady mannerisms"? " That sentence should read: "Since it is an international affair, how would you imagine Rice would be perceived over here if her legs weren't crossed, now that you know "Western lady mannerisms"? "
>>473 Hahaha, yeah. Bad mistake on my part, but I corrected it in >>472. I was in the heat of the discussion, so my thinking and typing often go in opposite directions.
>>468 >Let me say that our politicians come into office just yesterday >compared to other nations
That's not persuasive enough. There are dos and don'ts in terms of ways of acting when meeting foreign people that has to be passed down from administration to administration. As you said, government officials or someone who are in charge of advising cultural differences have to do their jobs properly.
>Since it is an international affair, how would you imagine Rice would >be perceived over here if her legs weren't crossed, now that you know >"Western lady mannerisms"?
In American culture where it's acceptable for a person to cross their legs, I think it doesn't matter if they cross their legs or not.
Maybe some Europeans cross their legs in a formal settings, too. Probably it's just that I have more chances to see Americans on TV. I see Hollywood movie stars, musicians and politicians crossing their legs in an interview on TV.
>Then there is mannerisms vs. the world affairs. If you were under high >stress and just became the Secretary of State after Colin Powell, would >you have the nerve to remember EVERY single minute detail of mannerisms?
I think you need to learn major cultural differences because if you act wrong, you give bad impression. Crossing legs in a formal setting is not a good idea as long as you are on the soil of Japan in my opinion. Being under high stress is another issue.
>>344 Mostly I read BBS like 2ch, guides, and books. There aren't many classes... And I live in a part of america that doesn't have many different people.. most people here are white and boring, not many europeans or asians or anything
Outside of college and expensive classes, there aren't many options for actual instruction with a teacher
>>351 If you don't find it interesting, that's your problem. Personally, I like a bit of diffuculty. I literally fall asleep in my spanish class it's so dull.
>>353 In the state where I live [central US], it tends to be very hot and humid during the summer; without much rain. In the winter, it tends to be cold and windy, with a lot of snow and rain. It's almost always really hot or really cold. Only about 3 or 4 weeks every year are a good tempurature for me
>>357 It's a case of chicken or egg. If we want to use metric, we have to teach it, if we want to teach it, people are going to have to use it
it's not going to catch on much unless the US becomes a HUGE international travel destination throughout, even moreso than it is now.
>>361 I read a book about Hiroshima, and what's it been like since the bomb, but it was about 5 years ago. Most americans only know of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as places we dropped nuclear bombs.
>>363 That's more of a christian problem than it is an american one. Most christians don't deny science, just a few things about it. Nowadays, most people accept most major scientific theories and laws, except evolution.
>>367 Most cases of polygamy I hear of are in the Southwest, Utah I think
There is a religion (or maybe a cult...) that encourages people to have many wives in that area. They also apperently use their kids... from what i've seen on the news, it's sick, but then newspeople exploit what actually happens to get popularity
>>375 Most americans think global warming is real, or at least possible. American schools usually teach evolution, and at most they have a sticker on them (like in Georgia) and the teachers say "evolution is a theory, not a fact", etc.etc., but they don't really care much.
Public school students are encouraged to say the pledge, but if they don't want to, they don't have to. if anyone forces them, they can sue them. My school doesn't even say it in the morning anymore.
In old times, yes, you had to take an oath, however they now offer secular options instead if you wish.
>>380 Actually, the whole "In God We Trust" "One Nation Under God" stuff is a cause of the cold war, it was added to seperate us from "Godless" communism.
Maybe it's just me but I am under the impression that Americans tend not to change their attituds when outside of US, trying to push their way of acting. I've heard American expats of multinational corporations living overseas keep themselves in their American community and don't try to mingle with local people.
In general, Americans tend not to make an effort to learn a foreign language. You know this joke that goes like, a person who speaks two languages is called bilingual, three, trilingual, four, quadlingual, then what do you call a person who speak only one language? ....American.
It's a fact that I felt bad when I saw Rice crossing her legs when she met Japanese counterpart in a formal setting. That's all and I prefer that she didn't cross her legs. No more no less.
Kind of tough to express my ideas in a foreign language.
>>389 I think it's because a lot of americans like a story that will make them so interested they have to keep watching, even if they don't like it very much.
>>401 Well, personally, I don't think either of them will be stupid enough to attack us but I don't think we'll attack them either. In a nuclear war, no one can win.
Overall, probably NK if you ask now, since they're what's "big" in the news
>>404 My school only offers french and spanish as regular classes Although we can take a two session introductory course in arabic/chinese language in the spring, it doesn't really do much.
>>405 Yeah, english is funny like that sometimes. Like how "slow Up!" (typically british) and "Slow Down!" (usually american) mean the same thing. Or how you Park your car on a Driveway, but you Drive your car on a Parkway.
>>409 Basically, it was a show of power. the official excuse is that it was to keep japan from trying to fight on, that it was to "save the lives of american soilders"; but that's of course a load of shit, since japan would probably have surrendered soon anyway.
>>421 It depends. Most university students in the US live at home if they have a nearby school; otherwise they tend to get a dorm or apartment.
Over about 25, it's rare to live with family. My uncle (30 I think) lives with my mom and I, and he has basically no social life. He has never dated anyone, never had any friends, I don't think he even talks to people over the internet.
Here, away from the cities anyway, housing isn't too expensive, but in the areas where it is, I can understand people living with each other. In the last town I lived in, you'd sometimes see immigrants with three, four, even five families in the same tiny house, because it's expensive!
>>432 Really? Where's that? I'm pretty sure where I am [KS], you can move out as early as 16, as long as your parents say it's ok.
If I HAD to change it, it would be: Whenever I sang my songs On the stage, on my own Whenever I said my words Wishing they would be heard I saw you smiling at me
Basically, just adding "I", but leaving it out is just fine The important part is that it *sounds* good. Like The Pillows, most of their english songs range from "pretty off" to "WHAT THE HELL?" But I still like them, 'cause it's good music, even if the lyrics are greek to me
[greek to me = I can't understand it at all, it might as well be in another language]
>>447 Most people in the US don't like her much either, or at least we make fun of her alot. Was she wearing a skirt? Many american women are used to crossing their legs when wearing a skirt. Not to mention, she probably didn't know about the culture, i've read a lot of things about japanese culture and never heard that one. There are a lot of small things that people don't bother putting down in books, or on the internet, that can be important like that ^^
As far as talk shows, I don't know, typically they all cross their legs in some way. It's just a comfortable thing to do. I sit weird too, I usually have one leg on the floor, and one leg resting on top of it, and them pulled close to me. Like indian style if you know that, except without crossing them. It's really comfortable for me, but not many people I know can do it. I even sit like this in chairs, about the only time I keep my legs out are in cars, and sometimes even then I curl them up.
>>452 well most american music (popular anyway, there's some good stuff, but not much) is disgusting to your ears anyway ^^
>>473 Conceived is basically being created, or being thought up. This includes 'conception', or when a sperm and an egg combine, and a baby is on it's way ^^
>>479 Yes, many americans are inconsiderate of others. I can't honestly say why, we just are. All I can ask is that you not hate us too much, because there are a rare few of us who actually do care, and do want to learn about others, so don't shut us out!
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Anyway, i'm sorry I haven't been replying lately. I've been very busy with my schoolwork. I have to make a report in 10 hrs too! and my eyes are sleepy ;_;
I'm going to take it off news, then i'm going to sleep a long time.
Praise be to Allah, who revealed the Book, controls the clouds, defeats factionalism, and says in His Book: "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)"; and peace be upon our Prophet, Muhammad Bin-'Abdallah, who said: I have been sent with the sword between my hands to ensure that no one but Allah is worshipped, Allah who put my livelihood under the shadow of my spear and who inflicts humiliation and scorn on those who disobey my orders.
The Arabian Peninsula has never -- since Allah made it flat, created its desert, and encircled it with seas -- been stormed by any forces like the crusader armies spreading in it like locusts, eating its riches and wiping out its plantations. All this is happening at a time in which nations are attacking Muslims like people fighting over a plate of food. In the light of the grave situation and the lack of support, we and you are obliged to discuss current events, and we should all agree on how to settle the matter.
No one argues today about three facts that are known to everyone; we will list them, in order to remind everyone: First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples. If some people have in the past argued about the fact of the occupation, all the people of the Peninsula have now acknowledged it. The best proof of this is the Americans' continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post, even though all its rulers are against their territories being used to that end, but they are helpless.
Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation. So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors.
Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there. The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq, the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their endeavor to fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and through their disunion and weakness to guarantee Israel's survival and the continuation of the brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula.
All these crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a clear declaration of war on Allah, his messenger, and Muslims. And ulema have throughout Islamic history unanimously agreed that the jihad is an individual duty if the enemy destroys the Muslim countries. This was revealed by Imam Bin-Qadamah in "Al- Mughni," Imam al-Kisa'i in "Al-Bada'i," al-Qurtubi in his interpretation, and the shaykh of al-Islam in his books, where he said: "As for the fighting to repulse [an enemy], it is aimed at defending sanctity and religion, and it is a duty as agreed [by the ulema]. Nothing is more sacred than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life."
On that basis, and in compliance with Allah's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims: The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty Allah, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah."
This is in addition to the words of Almighty Allah: "And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)? -- women and children, whose cry is: 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will help!'" We -- with Allah's help -- call on every Muslim who believes in Allah and wishes to be rewarded to comply with Allah's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson.
Almighty Allah said: "O ye who believe, give your response to Allah and His Apostle, when He calleth you to that which will give you life. And know that Allah cometh between a man and his heart, and that it is He to whom ye shall all be gathered." Almighty Allah also says: "O ye who believe, what is the matter with you, that when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling so heavily to the earth! Do ye prefer the life of this world to the hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things." Almighty Allah also says: "So lose no heart, nor fall into despair. For ye must gain mastery if ye are true in faith."
>>494 gb2/*/ is a popular meme on 4chan; it means "Go back to *".
Usually, "gaia", referring to another popular site, is used, although lately anything is becoming fodder. /b/ is a forum on 4chan, and probably one of the weirdest places on the internet; and so telling people to "gb2/b/" means "Go back to /b/"
It's just an internet joke, which will not really come up at all in normal english.
Like your uncle, there seem to be some people in the U.S. who still live with their family over 25, but the number is small and they seem considered to be strange.
The difference seems to be the number and the way people look at it. There are plenty of people over 25 still live with their parents and they are not considered weired at all.
Same things can be said about shy people or meek people. There are a certain number of shy or meek people in the U.S. who would like to change and awkward or something...Tell me if I am wrong.
It seems perfectly all right to be shy (or meek) here. Isn't it a big cultural difference?
Not once did the topic of: "Her political advisors are the ones to blame because they didn't do their job and tell Rice how to act accordingly to Japanese custom." That can be said as to any politician or business person that goes to Japan, their job is to make a deal, the advisor's job is to tell them how to act. If you want to see a prime example of this, the NBC show "The West Wing" shows how it goes for the most part.
Then, government advisors do change from administration to administration. If the previous administration does not like the new one, then nothing is really handed down in information. So, you are starting with a clean slate where everybody is pretty much new at the job.
I am not saying it is not wrong to be ignorant of others' customs, but what I am saying is give a little slack. Sure first impressions mean everything, but just remember that the concept that the person within finishes the deal. Plus, admittedly, Rice is trying her best to keep the world community safe. Here we see a woman trying with all her might to keep the peace in Asia with the threat of N. Korea. Rather than bag down on her, I'd admire her actions to actually go to the regions and make talks. I admire people that take action, and sometimes that is what really matters. The person on the inside, not what you see on the outside. Sure that's overused as an expression, but it is true.
Apart from politics, then I say, if an American businessman, politician, or an ordinary person seeks to live/work/visit in Japan, then so be it they should know the customs because it is only one other set of mannerisms. But the thing is, you guys have to correct us Americans overseas. If you see one of us Americans doing something wrong in manners, then correct us politely.
My brain hurts from all that thinking, I'm just going to say I agree.
Wait, I actually have a question about table manners in Japan. As a Chinese, I know it's okay to slurp noodles and soup in Chinese manners, but American manners don't allow it. How is it over in Japan? I'm actually curious about Japanese table manners so anything is fine.
>>509 You probably shouldn't generalize that to Japanese people only. I find even native English speakers are sometimes not interested in long sentences in English.
"Good things, when short, are twice as good." ~Baltasar Gracian, The Art of Worldly Wisdom
>>507 That was a good discussion to me. Thank you. Getting my thoughts organized and putting my thoughts together to write something persuasive in English was a good trainig to me.
Slurping noodles is considered to be OK here In Japan. Some people go as far as to say that the sound of slurping makes noodles more appetizing. Personally, I don't like to make the slurping sound when I eat noodles because too much sound of slurping is annoying to me. I eat noodles trying not to make the annoying sounds but it's difficult for me not to make slurping sounds at all and end up making a little sound.
As for slurping soup, I don't think it's acceptable here. But in reality, some people makes slurping sound and I don't want to have dinner or lunch or whatever with them. Maybe the kind of people who go to fancy restaurant never make the sound at all. I think it largely depends onhow you are raised by your parents.
Compared to the types of soup you drink with a spoon, when you drink soup without a spoon such as Miso soup and you bring your bowl of the soup to your mouth and drink it directly from the bowl, it's considered kind of acceptable, I think.
But again, personally, I hate the slurping sound even when drinking Miso soup so I try not to make the sound. I think people who don't make slurping sounds when they drink soup with a spoon don't make annoying sound when they drink Miso soup,either.
Were you raised in a family where Chinse eating habits are still alive? Like, you celebrate a new year on the lunar calendar and have special dinner and all?
>>508 Wow. I din't know so many threads where you are supposed to post in English. Seems like few of them are busy though.
>>519 Thanks. Actually, come to think of it, we never slurp our soup. But out of habit because we are a Chinese family we do slurp our noodles. I'm I little more tamed about it though. Outside of the house I don't slurp anything. We don't really celebrate the Chinese New Year, but we do have large family gatherings and dinner at Christmas time.
>>507 475's main concern seems "slurping," which is explained well enough, so I might talk about how to use chopsticks.
There are a few "don'ts," (1) Don't nibble your chopsticks. (2) Don't stick food with your chopsticks...We tend to do that though, when we eat sticky potatoes called "satoimo." (3) Don't use chopsticks when you get food served by somebody using chopsticks.
Hmmm...I wonder if they all make sense. I hope they do.
>>520 Thank you for your respnse. You don't celebrate Chinese New Year. I don't know but I guess in China town in California, they still celebarate it.
There might be a possibility that this thread will be deleted soon.
>>508>>521 are probably posted by a person in charge of taking care of English forum of 2ch. Let me explain you guys what >>508>>521 means. They say there are some similar threads already before this thread was made. So what they means is that this thread shouldn't have been made. They warn that you should check if similar thread has been already made before you make a new thread.
From my 2ch experiense so far, even after these posts by a person in charge are made, some threads weren't deleted and others were.
I have a suggestion. If this thread is deleted why don't we move to recommended thread by them.
I don't know much about 2ch but it seems that there are several threads for NOVA(franchised English conversation schools in Japan) and none of them has ever been deleted. Why do you think that is?
>>525 I don't know why. Maybe perosns in charge themselves are learning Englsh in NOVA? hehe
>>526 Sarah already took a peek at the thread. I know you are in Info-Exchange thread. I have asked questions there. Thanks for your answers.
I don't know what they'll do with this thread but as long as this thread isn't deleted I'll keep checking this thread. hyf270 would be dissapinted if all people are gone.
>>527 He'll be able to find us. It is especially obvious since I'm always "A Person". I looked in the other thread and it didn't look at discussion oriented as it is here, but we can always change that.
>>539 :) Research is just something I like! It's the most important part. Research is what will get our race further, isn't it? I mean, forcasting weather keeps us alive, but understanding it is what gives us better means of staying safe, yes?
As for role-models, I'd have to say... James Burke! He's a historian, and back in the mid-90s, he had a show called "Connections" that really got me interested in learning. As for weather, I've been sort of obsessed with the weather since I was about 7 years old.
What are you interested in? :) Any role-models for you?
(A role model that I've gained recently that didn't influence my childhood would be Carl Sagan; he's very interesting to listen to. If you want, I can link some of the videos he had made during the late 70s.)
>>543 I don't skip school; I'm not in school anymore. :) I'm actually a shut-in right now, but that does sound bad. Social anxiety isn't exactly uncommon, though.
>>544 My friend has social anxiety in the form of depression. I sort of have it to and don't feel comfortable in groups of people I don't know, but I try to get over it. You aren't in college, yet, are you?
>>548 No, not yet. I feel very uncomfortable going outside, so I tend to stay inside. I don't like it. I like being outside, but I still feel uncomfortable when I go outside. It's mostly annoying :(
Then I get anxiety and it causes me to not be able to sleep (which is why I'm up all night a lot). I have yet to find a psychiatrist for this area.
It's part of the reason I'm not in school now. Hopefully it won't cause me to delay and have problems when I do start college courses soon. That would be beyond frustrating :(
>>549 I've heard about that type of anxiety before. It's really particular. I wonder what's making it happen? What exactly do you mean by going "outside", though? Like to the mall, school, or town. Or is it just when you step out of your house?
>>550 Even outside of my house, to be honest. I go outside sometimes to ride my bike, but I don't know this area at all, so it's very rare.
It would be easier for me to get out if I had a car or knew anyone here, but I don't know anyone here (save for my parents, but I don't think they count).
Mostly, it happens when I have to deal with people. I like people though, so it's frustrating. :(
>>551 Do you see anybody around your age around where you live? I'd try talking to them. Sure it's frustrating right now, but sometimes things get better if you try. That's what I'm trying to do here in college. Sure it's slow, but I'm making friends.
>>555 Ohh, I was under the impression that it was caused by some sort of "inablity to adapt" to Japanese culture. American and Japanese culture is very different though, so I would see it as something similiar, but not the same.
Either way, I would rather not be a shut-in, NEET, hermit, hikikomori, any of them. :(
>>556 Well, I just moved here (to Montgomery, Alabama. REAL deep south) a couple of weeks ago. My parents work and I don't have a car (or permit/licence) so there's not really anywhere I can go. I don't really see anyone around my age at all. My neighbors are all retired.
Right now, I'm basically just waiting until February when I turn 18. Atleast then I'll be able to get a job easier.
>>549 and other comments posted by you kind of surprised me. I've just known what you are just by exchanging messages here and there in 2ch but you seem like a friendly, people-loving girl. So I thought not only on the Net but also in your real life you are having a good time.
I know that you know keeping yourself only inside the virtual world on the Net is a bad idea. I hope you find something that makes you lead in the good direction soon. Just taking for a walk to expose yourself in sunshine or doing some exercise might help.
>>559 I can see why it is really hard to adapt. But, >>562 does bring up a good suggestion. I think if you just walk around outside and look at the scenery then you might feel better. I wasn't too comfortable here at college and I just took short walks to relax and loosen up tension. It's worth a try.
>>568 Okay, the person that originally typed that was first of all an idiot.
What they wanted to say is this: "I just want to clear something (up). I am not stupid, and it is you who is a jackass, so grow the (fuck) up."
She is stupid because "kickass" means something good. Like when you score well on a test, you'd say "kickass". Evidentally, she did not know that or just was an idiot when posting that.
In general context, she will never get a point across without seeming intelligent on the internet. Punctuation and right usage is key to making a point.
I have a question, Are there some nightclub or disco in U.S.A? What kind of people usually go there?, what are they looking forward to go such a place? Are most of them bitchs?
>>571 There are nightclubs and bars that people go to to drink/dance and hook up with people. Do you know what "hook up" means?
I'm too young to have gone to one, but I don't really like dancing too much, but I would go to a bar. My sister (she's 22) has gone to a nightclub a couple of times, but mostly just to spend time with friends and have a couple of drinks and dance.
Not everyone who goes to one goes to meet up with someone to have sex with.
I wouldn't call them bitches just because they go to a nightclub.
>>573 Well, "pick up a girl," "pick up a guy," depending on gender, basically. And not have sex IN the club, obviously. It's basically just a place to play around and meet new people and have a good time, and sometimes, that leads to someone to have sex with.
>>574 okay, I could understand. thanks so I have a american gf in USA. But I live in Japan now. I often worry about her.. because she often go to nightclub or disco paticular weekend..
>>575 Well, not everyone goes to pick up someone. Many people go just to have fun with friends.
>>576 Haha, I just meant that you don't have sex while you're in the club. You go somewhere else! Why would you want to "see hard fuck" instead of just having sex with someone instead? Are you a voyeur?
>>580 Fat sex is funny. Watching all the fat move is very hypnotic. You could meditate under a fat chick like how some people meditate under waterfalls.
I've seen women who weigh over 200kg. If they fell over on a small child, they would kill them!
>>582 I have, but very rarely. Most of the fat people around here (large abundance here in the south), are usually around 250~ or so. I feel like I'm not skinny enough sometimes, and then I see those people and feel skinny again. But, that sounds kind of bad.
While playing a video game, I saw the word 幻獣. It isn't in dictionaries, but I assume the reading is げんじゅう and it means "phantom creature". Is that right?
>>616 Other countries have girls with blonde hair and blue eyes. In Northern Europe, the UK, Ireland, and Australia, they have girls with blonde hair and blue eyes. Look for beautiful girls around the world, not just in America ;).
>>633 No celebrities are hot. They are on TV so we can laugh at them.
Haven't you ever seen a beautiful woman or girl who isn't cute? She has dark eyes, long hair, soft features. She isn't outgoing or have childish features like a cute girl has.
"Hot" means sexually attractive. It's hard to describe what "cute" is. Animals, kids, and other things can be "cute" without being sexually attractive, though...
>>644 Thanks. I have another question. How is 来おった pronounced? It's something an old man said. Old people always talk differently in Japanese video games...
It means 来た=きた(came), it is the past tense of 来る=くる(come) In standard Japanese, (when I say "standard" I mean it's Japanese spoken in Tokyo area) 来る(くる)is present tense and 来た is past tense.
>Old people always talk differently in Japanese video games...
Yeah, other than video games, such as in anime, old people talk differently, I mean, they talk in thier dialects. By making them speak in their dialect, the producer of video games or anime emphaise they are old, I think.
I am not saying young people doesn't talk in a dialect used in their region anymore. They do. But dialects used by old people sometimes doesn't used by young people anymore.
>>652 Thanks again. I couldn't find it in a dictionary, so I had to ask to be sure. In American video games and cartoons, there are really no differences between old people and young people's speech other than minor vocabulary differences, I suppose... For example, young people sometimes use slang that old people wouldn't use, and old people might use outdated words.
I will use that thread if I have any more questions.
Did you go to school by radio? Did you have kangaroos in your backyard? Have you ever ridden in a kangaroo's pouch? How long did it take you to learn English?
>>660 I know lots of girls who like asian boys. Many of them are kind of otaku-ish, or like me who is kind of hikikomori-ish. I won't lie; I do like skinny asian guys who wear glasses. Actually, I just like skinny guys who wear glasses, no matter the race.
>>658 You're Australian? Hahaha, I wouldn't think anyone would ask questions as stupid as that. Maybe "HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A KANGAROO??? A KOALA?? DID YOU KNOW STEVE IRWIN???" but wow, that's astounding.
>Many of them are kind of otaku-ish, or like me who is kind of hikikomori-ish >Many of them are kind of otaku-ish, or like me who is kind of hikikomori-ish >Many of them are kind of otaku-ish, or like me who is kind of hikikomori-ish
>>663 But to me, Asians aren't ugly. Well, I mean, there are some ugly asian people (it would be odd if they were all pretty), but it's not -- wait, "PC crap?"
>>671 Well, as there are many "otaku"-ish American girls (since anime is something fairly widespread now), it's not that weird. There are some normal American girls who like asian guys, just not as many, I guess.
>>693 Good. She's still popular among elder women. >>694 OK. Do you like Offspring? I love them. Their song is palyed on Nissan's (car manufacturer) CF here now. "Can't get my head around you" is the title. Are the not popular anymore in US?
But music is something I like, and I spend most of my time now-a-days looking for new music to get. I like a few Japanese indie bands! A friend of mine in Malaysia introduces me to a lot of Japanese indie bands. Have you ever heard of Spangle call Lilli line? They're my newest favorite band.
>>696 Offspring is still liked by some people (I still love the Americana album), but they kind of fell off the radar.
My three favorite bands are The Go! Team (really great UK band), The Lucksmiths (Australian indie band; I love them), and Spangle call Lilli line (like I said! They've got a really amazing laid-back sound; very nice to listen to. I reccomend the album "Nanae")
Favorites are hard to pick though. It all depends on my mood to pick what I want to listen to. Sometimes I want something loud and fast, sometimes something slow and soothing. You know?
Do you turn your speaker of your PC on and listen to music when you guys are chatting or posting here?
I don't. Music is something I concentrate on listening to not as a background music. So even when I am posting 2ch, I don't listen to music, because I am distracted by it and fail to write good English and read your English right.
>>702 I sometimes turn on music, even when I have to concentrate. It's actually better for my brain because it causes me to focus on one thing and tune out other things going on. People have different approaches to things though.
>>703 Yeah. That's also I want to say, too. Call me stingy but I think it's waste of money. electric bill.
>>704 I've heard some sergeons do an operation while listening to classical music to relax. I could'nt believe it when I hear it on TV but as long as they can concentrate more by listening to it, I think it's OK.
>>625 It means different things to different people. Typically, cute is more childish looking, and hot is more of like supermodel style. >>638 described it well, although some people do find 'cute' to be sexually attractive
I prefer cute ^^;
>>629 A lot of americans find children really cute in general. I wouldn't say we have any special thing for japanese children, but we don't hate them.
>>648 Not true. a lot of american girls find asain guys cute or hot.
>>656 What kind of questions? It might be that the people were trying to seem nice or interested. Or they might just be ignorant. If you're >>658, they were probably either being rude or making fun of your country, or they're seriously mentally troubled.
>>663 There's lots of good and bad looking people from every race. I'm white, and i'm ugly. There are plenty of good looking japanese though.
If you think you're uglier than white people, maybe you just don't realize how good you look yourself?
>>613 Everyone has their own taste. I like red-heads ^^
in general, I wouldn't say there's any REAL preference among guys, although blondes are kinda popular since brown/black hair is more common in america. A lot of girls dye their hair blonde, but there's a lot of different types.
>>673 Well, most do, but nowadays 'cool' looking is usually more important to girls than being muscular
>>684 I could tell you based off my experiences if you want, but it would be extremely bitter.
>>689 Agreed. I've heard about 4 non-Bemani hiphop songs I like. And they are still nothing compared to good old rock. do you like the pillows band?
>>701 I have all my music on my PC. Just don't tell the police where I got it! I can listen to music and totally ignore it. In fact, a lot of times I try to listen to music for the lyrics, and I always miss them because I forget..
>>711 It's true, though. Most Japanophile/anime otaku who are into asian guys (or the ones who are only into asian girls; there are loads of regular guys who like asian girls, but the difference between the two is noticable), tend to be ones that no one here would want to be with.
And sometimes they're the type to say "demo" instead of "but" or squeal "kawaii" or put "ne?" after every sentence. I've been friends in real life with people like that, and it makes me sad. I'll admit that I'm someone who likes to watch anime, but I don't take it to that extreme. Then again, here I am posting on 2ch.
Then there are the people who onlly listen to Japanese music because it's "better" than western music, even though in most cases the only difference between the two is the language it's sung in. Even so, I can't say much. My music is about half English, half Japanese, and a small portion "other languages."
>>709-711 The ones that obsess maybe. Plenty of people over here are interested in japan, although they probably don't go to the lengths that those of us in this thread do
>>719 There's a common saying in English: "If I had [x] every time...", meaning "If somebody gave me [x] every time..." The joke is that the times I've seen his picture, it was on the 1000 yen note.
i have some questions. i have a kind of boyfriend. i rarely talk to him in English. because my speaking is bad. i think he just wanna make love with me. i wanna know what he think. how can i ask him about that? please give me some advices. thank u.
Every time I saw his picture, I did, in fact, have 1000yen. The humor comes from taking the sentence literally instead of in the common saying. (akin to telling somebody あけましておめでとうございます after they struggle to open a can of beer.)
>>730 Humor is one of the hardest things to translate, especially when it's wordplay. Sometimes English-subtitled Japanese programs will have two or three lines of text explaining the context of a joke. I hope to learn enough Japanese that I can speak with a Kansai-ben accent; a big, tall, pasty-white American (i.e. me) talking like that is not something most people would expect.
>>734 Either is OK; there's a very small difference in meaning, but not one I'm able to explain well at 02:35. (If you use 'used to live', there's extra emphasis on the fact you're not living there currently, as opposed to stating where you've lived.) Personally, I'd write it as "I've also lived in the Kyushu and Tokyo areas."
And here I am thinking "haved lived" means "lived but not anymore." I think I learned that the present perfect tense is used for actions that took place in the past and has been completed.
>>736>>737 It's the past perfect "I had lived in Tokyo" that indicates for sure that an action has been completed. The present perfect indicates that something started in the past, and may or may not have completed. "I'm living in Tokyo." is fine (and unambiguous).
You'd say "I live in Tokyo", but "I've lived in Tokyo for five years", because the action started in the past.
>>724 That's more of a relationship question.. but what i'd do is ask if they want me or just my body. Of course they're gonna say you though. Try abstinance? Most guys who don't care about a person's emotions will leave in that case; but then some people think sex is needed for a relationship. It's up to you.
>>730 After you explained he's on the 1k\ note, I found it funny.
>>734 Personally if I were saying I had previously lived in a place, i'd say "I used to live there" but "I also lived there" works fine too [although your statement should include "IN Kyushu"] Yet another way of saying it is "I have lived there" There's a lot of different ways to say it that are correct as long as you specify it was in the past.
For example, saying "I also live in place and place" implies that you live in more than one place [such as owning a summer house] But saying "I also lived in place and place" [Note the past tense in live] implies that you had lived there, but don't anymore.
I think most english speakers would say "I used to".
"I have lived" can mean either "I used to live here" or "I've been living here since". It depends on context.
It seems that you guys have it under control. For some reason I get proxy errors on my laptop... I hope it doesn't do that when I take it home over the weekend.
Anyway, >>744 That is right, you can use "had". There are many ways to express your meaning with the different uses of adverbs, adjectives, etc. I imagine merkin can give a better explanation.
>>749 Actually, my English is pretty bad. I've never been very good at writing, so my grammar sometimes gets a little weird (or the way I word things tends to be hard to understand).
But if you want to study what I say, just tell me what to talk about!
>>754 Now when I think about it, I don't use many hyphenated words. Or, at least I don't remember any. They usually are hyphenated when two words aren't usually used in a compound. I see hyphenated to have much more emphasis than non-hyphenated. Such as: "Use-as-needed" "Use as needed" Both mean the same thing, but the first one stands out more. I wouldn't go too far to use hyphens though. Not many people use them, so it is uncommon and weird to see many in one paragraph or several. I'll look for a list of hyphenated words.
As Sarah said, hyphens are used to join mutiple words into a single compound word. One common way of making a compound word is joining the gerund of a verb with a complement that could go with that verb.
For example: sad-looking "She looks sad." is a possible sentence. The verb is "look" and the complement is "sad". The gerund of "look" is "looking", so you can form the compound word "sad-looking". You can use that word in a sentence like: "I saw a sad-looking cat at the park yesterday." A lot of times, it's used without hyphens ("sad looking").
Keep in mind that that's just one way that compound words are formed, and I only gave a very light explanation of it. You could probably write a book going over the subject of compound words in English and still not cover it completely, but I think that such an in-depth explanation probably isn't necessary since you should be able to look up or guess the meaning of most compound words without problems.
>>747 Ganguro and yamanba doesn't do much for me. And they're smokers, yuck! I like regular punky girls, though.
>>744 I should see if I can find the graph showing relative times for the various tenses in English. (In general, though, if something happened in the past and is completed, using the simple past tense is fine; if something started happening in the past and may or may not be completed, use the present perfect.)
>>744 "I had lived" indicates that you don't live there anymore. To me, it kinda implies that you lived there until something happened recently, but I don't think it really holds that in the words themselves.
>>747 Hahaha. Korean from those pictures, but i've seen plenty of cute japanese girls.
>>751 not many people care about speaking a language correctly. And personally, if I were teaching someone english, i'd teach them a less formal english than schools usually teach, so they don't sound 'stiff' in conversation. Especially over the internet, a lot of things are ignored, such as capatalizing proper nouns (when it is done, it's usually only for people's names)
one of Japan's open secrets: burakumin and ethnic Koreans dominate the organized crime gangs known as the yakuza. More than three-quarters of the members of the Yamaguchi Gumi, Japan's biggest underworld organization, are said to be burakumin or ethnic Koreans.
I see. It took me a little while to appriciate research; I was a humanistic major and it is hard to quantify (if possible) the importance of a research that handles subjective topics.
Well. I will get going...I will keep reading your posts, though.
i protiein drink drink, so i am power up strong man.^_^ i strong man is macho , so i can fight and you lose, because i now power is big and afread . don't cry. hahahahahahaha
>>793 Hmm... That's an interesting take on it. I've never really thought of it, but now that you brought it up, it is true to some point. However, the smarter guys are starting to get more respect because the general opinion goes for the more down-to-earth type.
>>794 I don't know... It sounds weird. What's the context behind it?
>>794 "I'll give you fuck" sounds more like a person is saying "I'll give you nothing (or trouble, depending on context)" sort of like saying "I'll give you shit (for that)," than it sounds like saying "I'll fuck you."
"I'll give you a fucking" could mean "I'll have sex with you," but "fucking" like that sounds more like a person using "fucking" as a way to say "a beat up."
I read somewhere that you live in Ohio now. I've heard Green Buck? or Green something, which is the nickname of the football team of Ohio State university is very popular and when football season starts, they are the talk of the town. Is that true?
>>799 Buckeyes! :) That's the name of their football team (do a google image search for buckeyes; it's a type of nut if I recall)
Well, when football seasons start, it depends on where you live to know which team is the "talk of the town." For instance, where I live (Montgomery, AL), we have two major college football teams. Alabama state and Auburn.
As for Ohio, I remembered baseball being a bigger thing than football. Even though the Cleveland Indians aren't the best baseball team, it's a sort of pride for where you live.
My sister (since we had lived in Ohio and have all of our relatives there) is a Cleveland Indians fan, and her fiance is a Chicago Cubs fan, and both of them are kind of bad teams (they lose a lot!)
>>799 Sarah is right. It is the Buckeyes. Ohio State is very popular in Ohio. There are people that like Ohio State at my college. But, football and baseball are both equally popular here.
Japan, I was thinking about accents. You see, I say my "R" sounds oddly, and they usually sound more like "W"s. Like, when I say "girl", it usually sounds like "gu-wel" instead of "gur-el"; a lot of people ask if i'm from Boston or New York (Northeast US cities)
What kind of odd voices do you have in japan, other than words you only use in some areas?
>>822 It took ten minutes to understand the line. As a Japanese English learner, you have to understand subjunctive mood to understand this pickup line. My head is still spinning.
>>827 on the Advanced vocab: RESULT: Score: 88 of 120 Estimated vocabulary size: 1350 There were a lot of odd ones on there... like Gaol -> Prison; I wouldn't have known that if I hadn't learned that Gaol was an archaic (old) spelling of Jail, from playing FF11 (Area: Moridion Gaol)
I wouldn't rely on that too much, at least the advanced. i've read through college textbooks and old books and never seen some of those
it's alot easier to guess what a word means when you hear it in a sentence; in context; than just on a sheet.
Like if I said "Chillax", (extremely annoying slang, but the best example I could think of at the moment. If you say this word to me, I will yell at you.) you probably wouldn't know what the hell it was.
If I said "Hey man, you need to chillax" when you were angry, you could probably assume it means "calm down". [For reference, Chillax is a portmandeau (bad spelling, I know) of Chill and Relax. It's slang, and extremely annoying to me, but it's become pretty popular amongst teenagers and young adults]
>>827 RESULT: Score: 116 of 120 Estimated vocabulary size: 14430
on the intermediate one, there was only one word I did not know. On one of them I read a v as a w and thought it was the wrong word, in the others it as not that I did not know the word or that meaning but without context I was not sure which they meant.
>>833 Yes, i'm american. I'm 15, but i've got an above average vocabulary, especially for my age.
Yes, male; yes, student.
I'm trying to learn japanese; i'm still working on hiragana ^^;;
>>834 I doubt that most americans could get all of the words correct on the advanced one. There's 'Ye Olde English' in there, along with some words that are just odd. Like "Zap", they say it means "change"; but most Americans would probably think of Electricity/Shock when they hear "zap".
>>827 RESULT: Score: 109 of 120 Estimated vocabulary size: 17600
The test is British English, not American - which is why they have the spelling of 'gaol' and not 'jail' (the two are pronounced the same). 'swot' never ever appears in American English, and some of the connotations of the words are dramatically different. My score would have been higher had I gone along with the alternate meanings.
>>844 Well, like >>841 said, it's british english. If we had one of those in american english, we'd probably do a lot better, especially since those of us interested in japan and japanese probably are good at english already.
But yes, on average, americans use a very limited vocabulary Try simple.wikipedia.org; it's made with simple english; if you can understand that and use it, you'll probably get along fine with most day-to-day tasks in an english country; or someone could easily explain the other words to you.
Is there that huge gaping difference between british English and American English?? If so, sometimes Americans don't understand books written in British English or vice virce? That's stupid, why don't you guys do something and integrate those two Englishes as one official ENGLISH !! and make it easier for us to learn just one English, not two totally different things, and half the time we have to spend learning English!!
>>846 Well, to a point; yes.If you start getting more complex, there are big differences in english. You can see that somewhat in different areas of the USA, but UK-USA is a big difference. Usually, if we watch BBC (British TV), we can understand what they are talking about; if we go to england we know what they're saying- but they have words they use that we don't, and vice versa.
There have been some attempts to integrate languages together, but they never become very popular. Like how US still doesn't use the metric system (grams and meters VS. pounds and feet)
A good example is the language "Esperanto"; which was an attempt to create a universal language that would be easy for everyone on earth to use; it's probably the most famous language like that, and still most people don't even know what it is.
The good news is, as more and more people use the internet everyday and we all start to chat together; we will start speaking more like each other. I bet in 100 years, as long as there's no major incidents (like World War III or something), almost everyone on earth will be able to speak english at least as well as most americans (which isn't all that great really). I bet in 200 years, people will only use other languages for reading old things, and maybe special events (sort of like how now jewish outside isreal usually only use hebrew for Bar Mitzfa)
>>847 Maybe. But if some people would give up a little of their culture, and others gave up a little of theirs, it would be easier to merge out cultures together. Trimming the fat to make a bigger burger, I guess.
>>844 Keep in mind that English does have one of the biggest vocabularies in the world with about 500000 listed in the Oxford English Dictionary. The usual vocabulary range should be at 200000, but we only use a fraction of that in everyday speech. So, that amounts to about 100000 words or less, maybe more if you choose to brighten up your speech with "colorful" words.
"still" sounds awkward to me. Do I have to say "Is he not popular in the US yet?"? Matsuzaka Daisuke is a famous pitcher of the professional baseball in Japan. He's going to play in the US from the next season.
>>850/852 "Is he still not popular in the US?" is fine. If anything, "yet" sounds more awkward to me.
And I haven't heard of him; however i'm not into sports. Typically,only the very biggest stars (Babe Ruth, Micheal Jordan, Mark McQuire, etc.) in sports become really famous to people that don't pay attention to sports.
>>853 Schools for 9th year + (High school and college) usually make students read shakespeare. Although usually people read the original version, sometimes they read versions that people make that are shorter and easier to understand, so they can do better on tests since they actually understand the material. Most Americans don't read anything because they want to, except magazines. Those that do typically are women that read romance/mystery novels, which are written more recently. Like "Nora Roberts" books
The same things are going on here in Japan. People over 70 are, as they say, addicted to printed books, because books were the only entertainment they could have when they were growing up.
Younger people don't read so much except magazines, light novels, and romance novels targeted for young women. And both men and women are into anime or manga, which are as two dimentional as books but there are more images and sounds than traditional books.
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Nice to speak to you, hyf270. What's the score an average american would get in TOEFL, GMAT and GRE? What about an average student in undergraduate school, graduate school and PhD (both top-tier and the others)? And how did they, especially those who have broader vocabulary, achieve it?
895 :SAMURAI A ◆GfWlEQyDyE :2006/11/06(月) 18:40:02
I am a Samurai. I like soy sauce and yasabi. I son'T like americans because they droped atomic boms in hiroshima and nagasaki. they are killer.
896 :SAMURAI A ◆GfWlEQyDyE :2006/11/06(月) 18:43:18
If anyone finds this letter , it means that my plan didn't work and that I'm already dead . But if I can somehow go back to the beginning of all this I might be able to save her .
Bush's approval rating is bad, right? Then why doesn't he go to war with North Korea? I mean Americans are stupid, and always support Presidents fighting wars. So, I think Bush should make up some stupid reasons to start a war or two, just as he did with Iraq. What do you thinK?
because right now most americans are not happy with the war, and if he went to war without a threat of attack from N.Korea, he could be kicked out; and it would be likely his party would lose the election in a couple years. There's already a lot of disapproval of that party; since it became public that one of the members was having sex, or at least talk of a sexual nature, over the internet- with teenagers who worked at the building.
They had known about it for awhile, but didn't do anything until someone reported it to the news.
>903 Thanks for responding. But, what about gradschool admission? Though TOEFL isn't required, even you americans seem required to take GMAT/GRE. Or, is it so easy for americans that they don't do any preparation?
if you're interested, you could look it up on wikipedia, although I don't know how helpful it would be.
>>910 It's unlikely that they would impeach him, unless they found him guilty of crimes. Also; although democrats could win the house (43 seats "up for grabs", most/all of which are republican, and they only need to get 15 more seats to control the house), it's unlikely they'll take the senate. They need 6 seats there, and only 8 are considered "up for grabs"
That's the bad thing about midterms, most of the time, nothing changes.
As far as presidents go, I find it unlikely that either of them would be president, if one was it would be Hillary. They're both not very well liked from their relationships with the past two presidents. Ms. Rice is even more unlikely, in my opinion, because of Bush's unpopularity, and the fact that she's black. We've all come a long way as far as racism is concerned, but there's still a lot of people that would not vote for her simply because of that, however pathetic the fact may be. In fact, both candidates are unlikely to a point just because many American men still don't think of women as true equals, and don't think one should run the country.
I do not believe that Rice would make a good president, and she scares the heck out of most moderate Americans. Hilary Clinton scares most of us moderate Americans, too.
I've heard that Senator Kelly's comment on the Iraq war was controversial and provocative. Perhaps the Japanese translation of what he said is like "if you don't want to go to Iraq, then you should be educated." I remember he said he was just trying to jeer at Bush, but don't know how everything went with this incident.
Hello. Why do americans hold elections on a week day?? In japan elections are held on Sunday, so that as many people as possible could vote. I think japan's way is very reasonable and logical.
>>919 But come to think of it, Japan's voting rate is quite low. One reason is because elections are held on weekends, I think. If the place where you vote is a bit away from your place, no wonder there are people who think this way: It's a pain to go out just for voting.
>>916 Personally, I don't think there has been any good candidates for presidency. Perhaps there will when it comes closer to 2008.
>>917 It's Senator Kerry, not Kelly. I didn't really get to hear it first hand, but it doesn't matter. Last time I heard, he wasn't trying for presidency again.
>>919 It's been like that for a while. I remember learning why they chose to do it this way, but I forgot.
Sunday is the Holy day for Christians. You aren't suppose to work, but remember that much of America is pretty secular even though they might be Christian. It makes sense that there aren't elections on Sunday because then it's a religious day for Christianity, Saturday is a religious day for Jewish, and etc.
>>917 What he said was "If you study and work hard, you become succesful, if you don't, you end up in Iraq." He was talking about Bush, but the way he said it sounded like an insult to the troops, which is bad for him. Even people who don't support the war don't usually think it's right to call people in the army stupid.
>>919-920 Well, not many people vote anyway to be honest. I guess those of us who are lucky enough to get to vote don't care enough a lot of the time, huh?
>>925 Actually, a lot of Christians don't honor Sabbath as sunday anymore; they just pick their own day out of the week for it. Especially poorer families who have to take jobs that aren't monday-friday.
According to MSN Japan, the democratic party won the election because of: a) the number of the casualties in the Iraq war and b) corruption of several republican legislaters - insider trade and sexial scandal.
Ironically, this election results might boost NK's motivation. It's said that Kim Jon Ill and his lietenants strongly believe democrats will be gentle to NK. Remember former Secretary of State Albright flied to NK and shoke hands with NK.
I just watched the nouse; the Democrats won the house; although they might have to recount the ballots for one of them.
Still no word on the Senate.
They said on the news that the biggest issue most voters (in exit polls) said were "Terrorism, The Economy, The War in Iraq, and"...well, I forgot the last one. I think it had something to do with people being angry with the current government.
It's kind of sad that Japan seems more well informed about this stuff than people who live here.
>>932 yeah, the dolphin news was on the front page of the newspaper I subscribe to, a couple of days ago. BTW, have you swum with dolphins? Although we have places where you can swim with the, it seems like Florida is the mecca for it.
Only 1/3 seats are at stake in the Senate. As you mentioned, the Americans seem to be mad about the performance of Bush. The only thing Bush can do in the remaining 2 years is withdraw the troops from Iraq.
>>934 Yes I have. Well, I didn't really "swim" with them, but i've been in the water next to them, and got to touch them. They feel like rubber, don't they? I think when I did it, it was in the Bahamas, not Florida, although there are places in florida too. If you like ocean animals, Florida has Sea World, which is a lot of fun.
>>935 He might leave the troops there, that way anything bad that happens when they come back can be blamed on the next president.
>>936 That's great! It's been reported that dolphins have special sonic power(?) to cure different diseases, including autism. Have you felt specially better after being closed to them? (Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you are a shut-in, lol)
>>939 Echolocaiton, a new English word for me. Thanx! I'm neither feeling sick nor a sick person, I love touching (and even looking at) dogs, because they are always so cheerful~~