手ぶれ補正付き一眼レフ PENTAX K100D Part.11

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【過去スレ】
手ぶれ補正付き一眼レフ　Pentax K100D K110D
http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1148342154/
手ぶれ補正付き一眼レフ　PENTAX K100D Part.2
http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1148619095/
Part.3 http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1149585197/
Part.４ http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1150721223/
Part.5 http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1151554780/
Part.6 http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1151886333/
Part.7 http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1152291978/
Part.8 http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1152652811/
手ぶれ補正付き一眼レフ PENTAX K100D Part.9
http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1152891372/
【前スレ】
手ぶれ補正付き一眼レフ PENTAX K100D Part.10
http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1152891372/


※注意※
連投キチガイ荒らしは放置、反応して餌を与えないようにしましょう。
埋め立て荒らしにも毅然とした態度で応じて、荒らしに費やした時間を
無駄にしてあげましょう。

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やっちゃったよ…



なんで立てるかな

スレ立て完了しました。　お使いください。

いちおつ

FAQぐらい載せろ

【FAQ】
公式FAQ
http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/k100d/faq.html

Q.手振れ補正はどの位効きますか。
A.焦点距離の逆数を半分すると1段と勘定して、2〜3.5段効くと言うのがメーカー発表ですが
ユーザーの報告では、5.5段効いた例もあります。

追加があったら追加してください。

>>4
荒らしのせいで前スレもう書き込めないのよ

と言うわけで>>1 ｽﾚ立て乙!!

Q2. ２GB以上のメモリーカードは使えますか？
A2.　2GBは問題ありません。　4GBは、正式規格はSDHCという名称の規格になります。
メーカーでは対応予定となっています。　
正式ではない4GBのSDカードも市販されていますが問題なく使えたというユーザ報告があります。

Q3. スピードの速いSDが必要ですか？
A3.　まだ各種ユーザ報告は上がっていませんが、10MB/S(80倍速)以上のメモリーカードなら問題ないようです。
それ以下のスピードの物も使えますが速度低下がおきるかどうかはわかりません。

本スレとか、亜流スレとか、役所の書類じゃあるまいし。
いちいち分ける必要ないからこれ潰すよ？

…と思ったが、>>1がパシリみたいにセコセコ動いてる姿見たら
かわいいやら、哀れやら…

そのうち、もし気が向いたら潰す

Q4.　生産国は何処ですか。
A4. 最初のロットは、フィリピンでした。

後は適当にQAが有ったら随時上げてください。

これで今日は落ちます。

＞ユーザーの報告では、5.5段効いた例もあります。

これはちょっと嘘くさいぞ。ｗ
たまたまブレなかっただけだろ。ｗ

部屋で壁に寄りかかって撮ってみたところ200mm、1/10秒でも手ブレしなかった
つまり約5段分の補正ということだな。実にすんばらしい
ただし、これは壁に背中全面を密着させて相当気合を入れて得られた結果です

>15
効いた例もある、だから、ね。確実に効く訳はないでしょうね。
ですが、SRをオンにしていると、自分が上達した様な錯覚を味わえるのは確かです。

>>8 に間違いが有ったので起きて来ました。

Q.手振れ補正はどの位効きますか。
誤
A.焦点距離の逆数を半分すると1段と勘定して、2〜3.5段効くと言うのがメーカー発表ですが
ユーザーの報告では、5.5段効いた例もあります。
正
A.焦点距離を1.5倍して35mm換算焦点距離の逆数を半分すると1段と勘定して、2〜3.5段効くと言うのがメーカー発表ですが
ユーザーの報告では、5.5段効いた例もあります。

例200mm　でSS50でぶれなかった場合。　
換算300mmですので1段＝1/150　2段＝1/75　3段＝1/37.5　なので1/50は　2.5段
換算前より0.5段多くなります。

>>15-16 手振れ効果は実際は本人のベースになる力がより拡大される訳だから全ての人で効果は違う。
5.5段といっても、壁に寄りかかって撮れば通常より2段くらい遅く撮れるのであれば+3.5段の効きとなる。

手ぶれ補正養成ギブスを付けて、中原永世10段ぐらいの効きを目指そう。

来月はAutumnですか？

手ぶれ補正付き一眼レフ PENTAX K100D Part.11
http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1153152291/l50　←このスレ
手ぶれ補正付き一眼レフ PENTAX K100D Part.10
http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1153079668/l50
手ぶれ補正付き一眼レフ PENTAX K100D Part.9
http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1152891372/l50
手ぶれ補正付き一眼レフ PENTAX K100D Part.8
http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1152659944/l50
手振れ補正 一眼レフ PENTAX K100D Part.5(回帰)
http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1151887474/l50

どれが本スレなのよ？

>>22
そのうち、Part10とPart9は容量の問題で書き込めない。

>>12
＞そのうち、もし気が向いたら潰す

調子こいてんじゃねーぞ
死ね　タコ助

ホコリを2箇所発見したんだけどペンタックスフォーラムで除去してもらえるんだよね
マニュアルには有料ってかいてあるけどブログとかみるとタダもしくは安値でやってもらえそうだな
早速持っていってみようかしら

ちょっと質問
この機種CFありますか？AEロックボタンにAF機能割り当てれる？

>>26
SDのみ
AF割り当てはできんはず

>>26
親指AFの事？
確かAEボタンには割り振り出来なかったはずだけど他に出来たかも？

PentaxFamilyの入会案内が入っていたけど
どんな感じのところか知ってる人います？
一眼は全くの初心者なんだけど平気？

>>26 親指AFなら出きる。

SRの効き目ってファインダーで確認できる？

>>31
ttp://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/k100d/faq.html#02_11

>>31 できない。 デジタルプレビューを使うと液晶でラフには確認できる。

前スレpart.10からコピー
57 ：名無CCDさん＠画素いっぱい ：2006/07/17(月) 12:54:46 ID:p8iyVWOu0
マルチ臭くて済みませんが、こちらが本スレと聞いたので、下手糞ですが再度作例をあげさせて下さい。
K100D+TAMRON AF18-200 F3.5-6.3 XR DiIIで撮りました。素人の手持ち撮影での参考例として…

BSアンテナ、200mm、露出時間1/125、F値6.3、iso800
http://2ch-dc-ita.gotdns.com/~dc-ita/cgi-bin/imgboard/img-box/img20060717013039.jpg
プチトマト、200mm、露出時間1/45、F値8.0、iso800
http://2ch-dc-ita.gotdns.com/~dc-ita/cgi-bin/imgboard/img-box/img20060717013734.jpg
屋内の置物、200mm、露出時間1/10、F値6.3、iso800
http://2ch-dc-ita.gotdns.com/~dc-ita/cgi-bin/imgboard/img-box/img20060717014225.jpg
焼き鳥（塩手羽先）、55mm、露出時間1/8、F値6.7、iso800
http://2ch-dc-ita.gotdns.com/~dc-ita/cgi-bin/imgboard/img-box/img20060717014619.jpg
店内のSPと照明、118mm、露出時間1/3.3、F値5.6、iso800
http://2ch-dc-ita.gotdns.com/~dc-ita/cgi-bin/imgboard/img-box/img20060717014756.jpg
日本酒１合、68mm、露出時間1/3.3、F値6.3、iso800
http://2ch-dc-ita.gotdns.com/~dc-ita/cgi-bin/imgboard/img-box/img20060717015056.jpg
全てJPEG★★★です。
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座って壁に寄りかかったりして撮った。
>>57 手振れ補正効果 (35mm換算焦点距離）
１）BSアンテナ、200mm（300）、SS1/125：　1.5段
２）プチトマト、200mm（300）、SS1/45：　2.5段
３）屋内の置物、200mm（300）、SS1/10：　5段
４）焼き鳥（塩手羽先）、55mm（82.5）、SS1/8：　3.5段
５）店内のSPと照明、118mm（177）、SS1/3.3：　5.5段
６）日本酒１合、68mm（102）、SS1/3.3：　5段

>>1 >>18
＞ ユーザーの報告では、5.5段効いた例もあります。


そういうのは5.5段効くとは言わない。
VRやISでも200mm 1/15だろうと1/7sだろうと
何回もやってればぶれないのは撮れるよ。
そんなものを根拠に何段なんてみな言わないだけ

>>35 それは皆解っていると思う。　それを厳密に言い出したら誰も判断できなくなる。
手振れ補正の効果測定方法がCIPAとかで定義されていない以上絶対値で見るしかないのでは？
正確には本人が数10回同じ物を撮った場合の成功率とブレ無い限界との相対地を計るべきだろうが、
そんな事は、実写ではなかなか出来ないから絶対効果を参考にするしかないのでは？
普通の人は撮っても数枚多くて10枚だろうから、その位撮って手振れ無しが何枚か撮れれば効果有りと認めて良いのでは？

>>25
保証期間内なら無料のはずです。

>>32
>スイッチ　オン/オフでバッテリーの寿命は変わりますか？
>変わりません。

磁力発生の電力はほとんど無視できる？

ごめん
手ブレの段数表示ってどうやって算出するの？

まぁ、シャッター速度が 1/焦点距離(35mm換算) 秒 基準なら
実際は手ブレ補正無くても２段増しくらいまでは
ぶれないのがけっこう撮れる

>>39
基準は シャッター速度が 1/焦点距離(35mm換算) 秒 。
換算100mmまでは1/100sが手ブレ補正無しで撮れる、という考え方が基準。
そこを基準にシャッタースピードが半分で撮れたら１段。そのまた半分で２段、という考え方。
だが上で俺が書いたように実際はそうでもない。

でも、手ブレ補正はぶれる率を減らす機能だから、
写真を見て1/n 秒だから効果何段だね、という議論は意味ナス

>>2 ■■■■■■ 記事　漏れ　■■■■■■
【伊達淳一のレンズが欲しいッ!】smc-PENTAX DA 21mm F3.2 AL Limited
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/review/2006/07/05/4143.html
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>>38
そんな何センチもうごくものじゃないだろ。振動に近いぐらい。

そんな距離なら電力喰うはずがない、、

>>18 の「5.5段効いた例」というのは 座って壁やテーブルを利用しているようだから
テンプレに入れるのは邪道でしょ。
http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1153079668/110

当機の手ぶれ補正効果を否定しているわけでは無いので悪しからず

>>38 手振れ補正用磁力は、シャッターを押した時だけ働くから手振れ補正オンでもオフでも
電力消費はほぼ同じ。
>>44 次スレではテンプレから5.5段は外してください。

>>43
5mm移動させるより、1mmを小刻みに往復した方が電力使う希ガスr

シェーバーで歯が磁力で振動するやつがあったが3日は持つぞ

逆に言うと磁力で振動させてるだけでもたった３日で
バッテリーを使い果たした、と言うことだろ

手ブレ測定でJIS規格みたいに統一した規格がないとわかんないね。
だって若い子と８０過ぎのじいさんじゃ明らかに結果が変わるし。

リニアスムーサーか。
使ってるよ。　松下だよね。
あれは、1秒当たり 150〜200振動ぐらいさせてんだよね。
それはいいとして、

IF方式のズームだと、近接では表記の焦点距離出てないよね。
どの位になるのか判らないけど近い距離なら、200mm(35mm換算 300mm)
にしても、実際は100mmとか150mmかもしれないよね。
あれ？そうすると、近接ではもしかして過剰補正になっちゃうのかな？

ちょっと出張中で、来週までK100Dを使って検証できない・・・orz

>>48
お前は３日間不眠不休でカメラを持って貧乏ゆすりをつづけるのかとｗ

電力は結構食ってる気がする

3連休に常時SRオン、バッテリーはエネループで
540カット撮影したが、バッテリー表示はフルのまま。
ほかで省エネしているのかもしれませんが、
意外に電気を食わないかも。

>34-36、>40、>41、>44
前スレの57の者です。何か一部で過大評価＆拡大解釈を受けている様に思います。
掲載した作例ですが、屋内の置物と店内のSPと照明は1枚だけ、他は2〜3枚撮って
良い方を掲載しました。と言っても、はっきり手振れしたのは日本酒1合の撮影で2枚
有った程度です。ついでにサラダと豚串、ビールも撮影しましたが、ビールが1枚ピン
ぼけ、他は問題なしでした。今回はAF＆手振れ補正で成功率80%程度ですかね。
あと、後半はそれなり酔ってました。K100Dでなければ全例失敗だと思います。

壁を利用する件ですが、そんなにガッチリ寄りかかってませんよ。触れる程度です。
家族で焼鳥屋に行ったついでに撮影しているので、そんな目立つことは出来ません
（一眼持ってるだけで目立ったけど・笑）。それに、周囲の壁や家具を使って姿勢を
安定させるのは基本中の基本であって、どこにも触れず撮影するのは逆に難しい
状況でもありました（焼鳥屋は狭いでしょ、普通）。

…54続き…
でね、その上で作例よく見ると、そこまで完全に補正されてる訳でも無いと思うんですよ。
撮影条件（狭い室内、食事・飲酒中、等々）が余り厳密な評価にふさわしくないし、作例も
完璧には決まってないし。でも、スナップ撮影の結果としては立派でしょ？だから「素人の
手持ち撮影での参考例」と書いたのです。その辺を汲んで頂ければ幸いです。

>>51
引き合いに出てるのはシェーバーだろ
お前はひげを剃る時に,三日間ぶっ続けで剃るのか？w

ヒゲを剃るだけの短時間稼働を３回やっただけで
そのシェーバーの電池が無くなったと言うことだろ

>>34
議論を呼んでる５）店内のSPと照明、5.5段 だけど、この写真はそもそもブレてるよ。
手ブレ補正の効果があるのは認めるけど、これを「ブレてない」と判断するのはどうよ？

この程度のブレ写真なら、身体を固定する場所があればＳＲオフでも1/8〜1/15で撮れる。
そこから、ＳＲのおかげで1/3.3 が可能になったと判断すべき。

ペンタの手ブレ補正は初物だから、ご祝儀相場は理解出来るけど、これを鵜呑みにして
他スレで「5.5段分が云々〜」なんて言ったら恥かくぞ。

あと当然だが、>>54を避難してる訳じゃ無いので。念のため。

>57
そう解釈して貰えると、意図が伝わった感じですね。

>>18が35mm換算で計算してる件はどうなの？

俺も >>54の画像自体にケチは付けてないよ。
そもそも >>54 の撮影画像に対して誰かが「○段の補正効果」と言い出したのが誤りかも。
（○段を語るには個人差・撮影環境差があるので補正OFF時の画像も撮らないと分からないし、
ブレの種類？による効果の大小もあるんでしょ）

髭が剃れるくらいのパワーで画像素子を動かしているのか・・・・

電動シェーバーを動作させて、カメラと一緒に持って撮影したら、どんなブレになるの？

PENTAXマンセー必死だな・・・。
CanonマンセーもアレだがCanonがPENTAXに対抗して噂があった
Kissレベルの新機種を出さなかった点を見てもK100Dは相手にされてないよ・・・。

AFの遅さとダスト関連が無い点を除けばK100Dは良いな。
だけど手振れ補正の精度と埃のへの耐性精度がまだ安物感丸出しでいけない。

機能が　付　い　て　る　ってのと
機能が　実　用　レ　ベ　ル　ってのはまったく別問題なわけで。

デモ写真お前らもみてわかってるだろうが色の再現が屑　見た感じ既に使い物にならない

K100Dが売りにしてる機能が実用レベルに達して色の再現もまともに出来るようになれば
他メーカーへのちょっとした良い刺激になるかもな。

>>57 厳密な意味では、低速度シャッターでは、ミラーショックが加わるから何らかのブレは発生する。
昨日400mm（換算600mm）で三脚に乗せた上で　1/60　1/15　各々手持ちシャッターを試した。（連写）
1/60（3段強）では、補正オン、オフ関係なくほぼブレ無い写真が撮れる。　3脚と連写の効果
1/15では、補正オン、オフ関係なくブレる。　ミラーショックの所為
1/15で2秒タイマを使いミラーアップで撮るとブレ為し。　ミラーショック無くなる。　
12秒タイマと比較しようとしたけどなぜか12秒の方がブレてたので追求せず

条件によりかなり変わると思おうから一つの参考として上げて見た。　写真はつまらないので勘弁。

>>59 35mm換算が正解。　そうでなければコンデジの手振れ補正は５倍位効きが良くなる事になる。

>>62

ま、こんな具合にキャノン関係者が必死になるK100Dはすごいカメラ

　ユーザーじゃなく、関係者じゃないとここまでは出来ないよな？

　こりゃ、キャノンのコンプライアンス問題発生だ！！キャノン本社に通報しなきゃ！！

なんだ、結局スレ嵐に来るのは低性能・低描写コンプレックスなキャノン系かｗｗｗﾌﾟｗｗ

なんだか被害妄想の禿しいペンタユーザーと工作員が大量発生しているスレでつね

>>2 ■■■■■■ 記事　追加　■■■■■■
デジタルARENA レビュー
http://arena.nikkeibp.co.jp/rev/20060714/117680/
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前スレ>>57ってチマチマ細かい性格してそうだな
こういうやつって俺大嫌いｗ

>>62 はαのスレでも見たよ。

水刺すようで悪いけど、適度に使える手ぶれ補正があるだけでいいんじゃね？
グダグダ言うのはアフォかと。

このキャメラをちゅーぶのおじいちゃんにかってあげるよ。

ﾃｽﾂ

マニュアルフォーカス、ブレ補正無しで撮影する練習ってみんなやってる？

>69有り難う。糞野郎に嫌われると嬉しいですね。

KでMFは楽しくないからマクロで使うくらいだね

>>75相手するなよ。

74
やってない。
ごめん、すまぬ、許してくれ。

ここは荒らしてもいいんだよ（笑）

>>62は、α100スレからのコピペ
http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1152896062/443

嫉妬に狂ったα信者やＧＫが、このスレを荒らし始めてるけど、
華麗にスルーで。

>77
ああ、つい脊髄反射で…。夜勤明けはチョット良くないですね。

…市原クンのお国板のデビュースレがこれ（笑）→http://makimo.to/2ch/ebi_chiri/1005/1005819955.html

変質者さながらの発狂ジサクジエンモード炸裂、ってな感じで 「 釣れる 」 とヨカンさせたのは誰もが承知（笑）

＃ ヲ・ヲォ〜レ様降臨のアトは…やはり学歴の差がモロに出て居場所がなくなったらしい（微笑）
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

名前欄ちゃんと書いとけよｗ
↓

あ　ぁ　栄　光　の　北　九　州


1 名前： 市原猛志 01/11/15 19:25 ID:???

かつては，四大工業地帯にも数えられ,栄華を誇った北九州。
政令市原指定都市の次(東京都特別区を除く)に指定。
一大製鉄基地で高度成長を支えましたよ。
しかし，安定成長に入ってからは,相対的に地位が低下。
今では政令市の歴史の浅い仙台にもあおられる始末。
政令市政令市とうるさい向きもあるが,（下位政令市に多い）
こっちは，40年近い歴史あり。（Ｓ３８年指定）
人材も多く排出しましたさ。，，，なのに，，，


北九州を擁護するスレッドです。

>>74 やろうと思う。　MFは楽しいね。　フォーカスインジケータで赤く合焦位置を知らせてくれるし、完全に合焦したら合焦マークがつくし、AFとあまり変わらない感覚で使える。
さすがPENTAXと思った。　かなり暗い状況でも使える。

>>80

　キャノン関係者は生意気ｗ

>>71
ま、*istDシリーズの頃は「手ブレ補正なんぞ、いらんわい！」という風潮だったが
これも人間の性かとwww　有るに越したことはない。

>>80
おまいな・・・なに一人でエキサイトしてんだよ。
脊髄反射ばかりしないでちゃんと読めよ。
まずは、自分が間違っていた事を認めるんだな。

>>53
エネループは無くなる直前まで電圧の低下があまりないから
バッテリー表示当てにできないかも
無くなるとき一気に無くなるかもよ

まだ、試してないけどね

>>80
ワケ判らないのは、おまいの方だと思うが？

マジでさ、このスレの擁護派（信者？）は、ちょっとおかしいぞ。
擁護するなら、ちゃんと理屈を通せば？

擁護派っていうより工作員じゃねーの

>>85
K100持ってないんだろ？逃げるなよｗｗｗ

K100D で出来るかどうか知りたいんだけど。　MFで親指AFを組み合わせると合唱した時にシャッターが下りるような使い方が出来る機種があるらしいがどうなんだろう。
手順を教えて。

ペンタのスレにも、荒らしやアンチが来る様になったんだなぁ。
ｼﾐｼﾞﾐ

ペンタ新宿SSはローパス清掃はキッチリやってくれるが、
何度言っても必ず画像積算ナンバーをリセットしちまうんだよな。
ニコソは一度も無いし、キヤノンも清掃下手な東日本修理センターで
一度あっただけ。
リセットしちまうなら、任意のナンバーを手動で設定出来る
機能付けてくれないかな。
毎回通算シャッター回数把握するのがメンドイし、画像管理も面倒なんだよね。
応対は良いだけに残念。

ふと思ったけど
地方の人は態々送ってるのか？SSに。それとも自分でなのかな

>>91
キヤノン機では、ＭＦモードでシャッターボタンを全押し状態にしておき
フォーカスリングを回して指定枠が合焦したとたんシャッター切れる。
親指ＡＦモードとは、あまり関係ないよ。

フォーカスリングを動かさず、動く被写体がそのピント位置に来た瞬間に
シャッターが勝手に切れる（いわゆる置きピンオート）という使い方も可能。

K100Dには、残念ながらこの機能は無いね。

>>77 >>57
http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1152896062/538

>>70
http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1152896062/559

頭のおかしいこっちの信者が荒らしに行ってて
いっこうにやまないのでいい加減むこうもキレたらしいね

なんだ。じゃあ>>80がすぐわかったのは自分で向こうに書き込んだレスだからか

>>96
いい加減むこうも…だって(藁
こっちの住人のふりしてる貴殿は、本当はどこの住人？

そちらの住人が他スレを荒らさなければ、そちらの荒らしも
収まりますよ、きっと。

>>62
こいつは頭おかしいのか？
＞CanonマンセーもアレだがCanonがPENTAXに対抗して噂があった
脳内設定前提で一人話を進めていく様は気持ちが悪いの一言に尽きる。

>>95
スナップインフォーカスのこと？
MZとか前のペンタのカメラじゃできたよね?
K100Dはどうなんでしょ

>>91
MFレンズを使った時にAFにしておくとそのようなことができたような･･･
ようはピンがあったらシャッターが下りるってやつじゃない？違う？

>>97
なら、そいつのせいだろ。。
何が華麗にスレーだよ。氏ね

>>93
ローパス掃除からの写真撮影数がわかるじゃん。オイル交換とかで
距離をリセットｓるのと同じ。ただリセットするのはトリップメーターで
大本？の距離計はそのままだから、カメラも総影数とローパスチェック用の
撮影枚数みたいな2系統ほしいところだ

>>97
だから検索機能を使えばコピペかどうかはスグ判ると(ry
電車の中でIDが変わった君、それぐらい知っててくれよ。

ペンタユーザーにもこんな他のスレでアンチやるようなキモイ奴が出てきたんだな。
サブいぼでちゃったよ

>>43
振動で動くのは画期的だけど、ホバリング？つーか静止状態でも
磁力使うからレール式より電力使うかも

>>104
お前も同じレベルだな

553 ：名無CCDさん＠画素いっぱい ：2006/07/18(火) 09:57:50 ID:z6zj1Vn+0
　ぉぃぉぃ、今度は俺と が同一人物だと思い込んだかw
　まじウケルわ。しかも ID:6rFx3TIL0 にまで叩かれてやんの。
　１日の始めに楽しませてもらったよ。ミノヲタって面白れーなー。

注文したら３週間かかるって言われたーよ

SRがON、OFFそれぞれの電池の持ちについてなんだが
元々CCDは機械的に固定する仕組みになっておらず、
SRをOFFにした場合も駆動用コイルに通電して固定している。

だからON、OFFどちらの状態でも殆ど消費電力は変わらない。
変わるとすれば加速度センサとその演算チップの電力ぐらいだろうけど
これらも待機電圧掛かってるだろうから殆ど変わらないのでは。

>>101 そうそう。　本当のAFの場合は、合焦するまでシャッターが下りないからいいんだけど。　MFレンズを使ってカメラをAFモードにしておいてもシャッターは合焦していなくても下りてしまう。

>>106 ホバリングなんかしていないよ。シャッター押すまで常にお昼寝してるだけ。
だからメーカーも補正オン、オフで電源消費量が同じといってる。

>>106
>>109
>>111

微妙にカブったな

…作例がまったく出ないところを見るとまだ買ったヤツはいないようだなｗ

>>109 通電していないと思うけどな。どうなんだろう。　
それに下手に通電して固定するよりフリー状態にしておいた方が補正オフの場合でもブレに強くなるはず。
建物の免震構造と同じだね。
なお、ピント方向（奥行き方向）はベアリングで固定されているからピントが狂う事は無い。
フリーだと真下に向けた場合宇宙遊泳するかもしれないな。

作例まだー？（笑）

>>91
俺のK100DでMFレンズを使い試したらできたよ
ボディのスライドスイッチはAFのまま
シャッター押し込んだままピントを合わせていくと
ピントがあった瞬間シャッターが切れる。（逆に言うと合うまでは切れないけど）
OKボタンにカスタムファンクションでAFキャンセルを割り当てておくと
ボタンを押せばいつでもシャッターを切ることも出来る。
フォーカスエイドがギブアップした時はこれで対応できるよ

ＣＣＤと本体間の接続はどうなってるのかな？

なにか不具合がおきるとしたらこの辺で起きる予感。

ﾃｽﾂ

>>81
はははｗ
夜勤明けって…ぶるーわーかーかよｗ
せいぜい気張れや（ぷ

古いレス番を引っ張るのは市原猛志クンの芸風ｗ

>119
流石、糞野郎。ぶるーわーかーで精々鍛えて下さい。普通はblue-collarって言いますけどね。

高樹沙耶さんの作例はまだ。本上まなみさんもPENTAXのファンだがK100Dは買ったのだろうか？

このスレは新製品なのに作例がうｐされない摩訶不思議なスレ（笑）

>>114
通電しないと一番下に落ちちゃうから
ファインダと違う範囲が写ると思うんだがどうだろう。

フリー状態だと逆にぶれると思う。
数グラムのCCDユニットプレートでも
ボール三点支持だと容易に動くんじゃないかな。

>>121
何というか、頭悪そうなレビューをクダクダ書くなよなｗ
簡潔に書けや。…あ、書類作るような仕事じゃないものなｗ　底辺ｸﾝ

挙げ句の果てに揚げ足取りか…。知的労働者以外の底辺現場職だよ、お前はね
ブルーワーカーとも言うの。同義語って知ってる？ｗ

EXは2chやらずに中卒英語でも勉強してろよ(爆笑)

>>126
相手にするな

どうして作例がうｐされないのか？！…それは簡単、誰も買ってないから（笑）

Autumn

ここは不思議なスレだな。

…作例のない新製品スレなんて初めてみたよ（爆笑）

Autumn

Autumn

>125
reviewなんて書いてませんが、糞野郎？ブルーワーカーとは言いませんよ、糞野郎？

中学以下の学力をもった助手を雇った博士も災難だな。

ここまで特定されていながら平然と荒らし続けるとは並の神経ではないな。一般世界の彼岸にいるタイプの人間だ。

ブルーワーカー
http://www.bullworker.co.jp/bullworker.html

>>133
まあブルワーカーだと間違いなくトレーニング機器だね
ブルーワーカーでも今ではトレーニング機器をまず思い浮かべるが
125の意味でも言わなくもない

http://www.ncosmos.com/DOPPO/kasegu/archives/doppo2/W.W./index.html
「サイドビジネスを実行する人は、どちらかと言うとブルーワーカーに多く、ホワイトワーカーの人たちには、〜」

>>133
お前…本気で頭悪そうだなｗ
頭悪い奴に限って、想像力貧困でフレキビリティに欠ける。チマチマしてんのなぁ…

>>138
まじめに突っ込むやつって
>>133みたいに社会適応能力に欠けてるんだよ

>>137
そっちのブルーワーカーは『ＢＵＬＬ』ね。一般的にはトレーニング機器を想像させる言葉だね、確かに。

>>139
金持ち父さんが言う『テーブルの向こう側』には座れないタイプだな

よく使うのはブルーカラーとホワイトカラーだね。
オレはホワイトカラー。

>138
flexibilityって言いたかったんですか？書く度に笑いを取りますね。

>>37
サンクス。もっていくにはまだ時期的に早いな
絞り込まなきゃ気にならないし、もうちょっと目立つようになってから持って行こうと思う

あ、シが抜けてるな。
っていうか、お前さっきから揚げ足取りに終始してない？他に論点ないのかね

あぼーん対象がドンドン増えてく(´･ω･`)

こんな不思議なスレは初めて（爆笑）

作例まだー？（大爆笑）

どうして作例がうｐされないのか？！…それは簡単、誰も買ってないから（笑）

一眼入門用にと思って写真見てたけど、
これ遊具の輪郭すごいことになってんね。これは仕方ないの？
http://2ch-dc-ita.gotdns.com/~dc-ita/cgi-bin/imgboard/img-box/img20060716100341.jpg

一応バッテリーの持ちについて、公式情報を載せておきます。
一般撮影(フラッシュ無し)　常温時(23℃)

　　　　　　　　　　　　istDL　　　K100D
CR-V3　　　　　　　　850　　　　730
ニッ水(2500ma/h)　 560　　　　430
アルカリ　　　　　　　 90　　　　　80

SR以外の部分がほぼ同等と考えた場合、
わりとSRの消費電力って大きいと言えるね。

>>150
それ、オマエの大好きな16-45で撮ったヤツか？ｗ

>>150
これ鮮やかモードで撮ってるからだと思う
いわゆるパット見、そのままプリント優先のコンデジモード
彩度、コントラスト、シャープネスがかなり効いた絵になります。

同じ条件でナチュラルにて撮ることは出来ないけど
晴れたら彩度の高い被写体で比較写真撮ってみます。

…いいコト思いついた。

>>150のK100Dをバットでぶん殴れば解決するかも？

>>150
なんか、すげー色だな。
黄色い手すりの縞々が気になるんだけど、輪郭強調下げれば出なくなるのかな。

>>153
風景モード(AUTOPICTが選択?)だからってのもあるのかねぇ？

16-45が糞だった、ってコトで手打ちにしたほうがいいかもｗ

50-200と使ってみた
手ぶれなくってすごい

昔は暗い望遠ズームは手ぶれ増やすだけだから
135とか中望遠マクロを買った方が良いとかサンダーあたりに言われていたけど
間違いなく使えますね

感度も昔は100だったしな〜

…だいたいカリカリ傾向なんだな。

K100Dは風景向きだな。
望遠撮影には意外とよかったりして。

K100Dは反応が遅いね。あとユーザーがカスタム設定した内容を記録させる機能もない。
５万円台で買ったカメラに辛口すぎるか？

カスタム設定のこらないのはヒドイ
本当かは知らないけど

＞カスタム設定した内容を記録させる機能もない。

これホント？

文字面の表面的な部分で必死の抵抗するやつ
文章の裏側に見える書き手のコアを、戦略的に潰す方向へ誘導するやつ
一番気の毒なのは、このスレを立てた>>1だなｗ
まさかこんな
>>162
自分のK100Dで確かめてみろよｗ

彼は前者のようだな

華麗にスルー（笑）

いや、ここはスルーできないポイントだぞ

いや、この暑さなら可能ｗ

はははあぼ〜んだらけだぜ

X''CULTer's / Esprit de Digicam ◆KN.C37077Y

出没率高いな。仕事しろよｗ

>>168
18時半出勤

>>160
反応が遅いってのはどういう所を指しているんだろう。

電源入れてから撮影できるまで、
モードダイヤル切り替えたとき、
再生モードへ移行し、絵を切り替えるレスポンス、
AF、シャッタータイムラグ、等々。

個人的にはどれも可もなく不可もなくだと思ってますが。

あと設定はウチのK100Dだと保持されます。さすがに。

あら、上の文章削除してなかったか；；

作例まだー？（笑）

>>170
お前な…今時公務員でももっと読みやすい文章書けるぞ
まどろっこしいねん

関西弁のほうがよっぽどまどろっこしいねんけどなぁ〜（笑）

折尾弁よりまともだろｗ
〜っちゃ！ってどこのカッペやねんｗ　と思う

折尾弁だぁ？
ＲＥＶ人間に聞いてみろｗ

…「 〜っちゃ 」 って和歌山の人間も使ってるしなｗ

>>93
１）連番モードに戻す
２）ソレまで使っていたSDカードを挿して撮影してみる

　これで元あった番号の続き番にならないか？
　他のメーカーのはそうなるんだが？

北九州の人間は総じて、博多弁のカッペ版みたいな言葉使うよなｗ
言葉の端々で

書き込んでる暇あったらオータムの意味を辞書でひいてろ。

つfukuokachu.fukuoka.ocn

ラムちゃ〜ん！

代ゼミの万年浪人かｗ

また変なのが湧いてきたな。

予備校生って大半が犯罪者予備軍みたいなヤツだなｗ

>>183
そんなに若くねえよ

今日カタログもらってきて見てたら、アクセサリーに”拡大アイカップ”が（発売予定）とあった。
これって見た目はファインダー倍率がアップするってことでいいの。視力が落ちてる俺にはありがたい。

オリのＭＥ−１は期待外れだっただけに、眉唾だな…

これは既出？
http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/lifestyle/articles/0607/18/news052.html

>>186
26歳の夏か？ｗ

>>189
hageしくGJ!

>>189 新しい記事だね。　これで手振れ補正の動作がはっきりしたね。
ーー以下抜粋ーー
シャッターボタンを押し切って、実際にシャッター幕が開くまでの間に素早く制御を行っていますので、補正に必要な電力消費を最小限に抑えています。

　動きを順に説明すると、通電しない状態ではCCDは下にあります。手ブレ補正のオンオフを問わず、シャッターが開く直前にいったん真ん中に移動し、オンの場合はそこからブレ量に応じて細かく移動して補正を行います。オフの場合は、そのままずっと真ん中にい続けます。

K100Dの手ブレ補正では、全押しからスタートし、シャッター幕が開く直前にはすでにCCDは中央に来ていますので、レリーズタイムラグには一切影響を与えません。

>>190
26歳で浪人って、医学部志望でたまにいるな
公認会計士ですら大卒後25歳までに合格決めないとアウトなのに

DL2は併売？
買う人いるのかな。

>>187 薄いタイプだから大して倍率は無いと思うよ。　
視力の良い人には十分だろうけど視力が落ちた人にはむしろ2倍のマグニファイアFBの方が良いのでは？

>>194
レンズキットで4万円台前半（もしかすると切る）まで行くと見た

>>189 の題名
>>2 に追加　■■■■■■■■■■■■■
ITmedia 磁力でCCDを動かす手ブレ補正――「K100D」の開発者に聞く
http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/lifestyle/articles/0607/18/news052.html
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>>193
んじゃ２６歳で院卒博士課程様の下僕補助員ってのは負け組みかもなｗ

>>198
お前がその境遇にあるのか？
だとしたら、メーカーの下請け工場勤務？
院卒博士課程が重宝される職場って、先端技術を駆使するものづくりメーカーを想像するんだが

>>196
コンパクトデジカメじゃないんだから。。。
といいつつ、自分なら\19800でも買わないな。

在庫持ってるとこ大変じゃないのかな。

>>199
つ　毎日が夜勤＆正月・盆休みなし

このことから、どういった職種で働いてるか察しはつく。
まともな仕事じゃないことだけは確かだけどねｗ

…以上、生活費もロクに出ない下僕補助員でした（泣ｗ

>>200
本体$300ラインに相当の需要ありと言ってたのはニコンだったかな

pgr

>>201
シャープの亀山工場で働く期間工に密着取材したドキュメントを思い出したよｗ
プライドをズタズタにされそうだｗ

うひゃひゃ

期間工か。ストレスも溜まるワケだ

俺も某自動車メーカーでやったことあるが
きっついよな
休みはすくねーし、こうるせーし
３０分圏内に自然と戯れるところがあるだけが幸せだった

M42レンズなどスクリューマウントのレンズで暗くなり、EV+1.5~2.0誌無いと駄目だと言う話があちこちで上がっているが、価格の方のスレでは補正しないでも使えていると言う人が居る。　本当かなと思うけど。
Mモード＞AE-L＞レリーズ　と言う手順を踏むと補正なしでいけるらしい。
２ステップ踏みたくないね。
しかし、Avモード＞レリーズとすると補正が必要な人がほとんど。
補正しなくても使えるという人がいるのが不思議（レンズがスクリューマウントじゃないとか？）
istDではそういう現象はなく、istDL2でも同じ現象だそうだ。

>>198
つ文科系

なんで夜勤のやつが、院卒博士課程を例に出すのかな
ゴミケーソの実際の境遇（夜勤中卒）が比較のベースになる

>>211
自分が知ってる一番難しい言葉なんじゃないのか

次のK10DからはこのLSIが使われそうだね。　K100Dはこの1世代前のLSIを使っている。

なかなか楽しみなLSI.
デジタル一眼レフカメラ向け画像処理システムLSI　『MB91680』
http://pr.fujitsu.com/jp/news/2006/01/23.html
最新アルゴリズムを搭載し、ノイズに強く、美しい画像生成を実現します。さらに、当社の最先端組み込み用CPUコア「FR80」を搭載したことで、従来の4倍の転送速度が可能になり、多画素カメラでの撮影における高速連写や機敏なシャッターレスポンスを実現します。
約30％消費電力を低減
折り返しノイズ(注3)・色ノイズを抑制
ロスレス・データ圧縮
HDMI用インターフェース

ノイズに強くなったD200、よりもさらに上の画像を期待したいな
飛行機写真スレ見てると、D200の解像感はさすがの一言だ。D70とは格の違いを感じる
レンズの差がでかいのかもしれんが…

てかほとんどレンズの差の予感｡

今回、何台出荷したんだろうね？バカ売れなんでしょ！

まだヨドに在庫あったな

ジョーシンに発注した分の納品が1月後の8月半ば頃になると価格に書いてある。
（中の人が生産が順調ではないと言うような事を言ってたね。）
本当にメーカー在庫切れを起こしてるみたいだね。　社員全員フィリピンに手伝いに行け。

今日新宿のキタムラにぶらっとよって見たら、入り口にでんとK100Dの陳列があった。
あの場所は一押しのカメラが鎮座する場所だよ。

新宿に行ったのは、液晶フードを買うため。　
HAKUBA CyberShot T1/33専用　DMH-ST1　を買った。
2.5"用はこれしかないので仕方ない。　上のほうが少しファインダーとぶつかるけど少し削れば問題なさそう。

あれ？　そういえば海外発売は大丈夫かいな。　まだ海外の発売日は発表していないよね。
海外から日本で売ってるのを欲しいとか言う人がいるけどマニュアルとかが日本語だもんね。

今週だけだよ

iaudioのX5にK100Dの画像データを転送しようと思って
やってみたんだけど駄目だった・・・残念

グリップの下の方、指でつまんで左右に動かすとキシキシ言わない？
目に見えない程度のきしみなんだろうけど、グリップする度グギッって
感触＆音するのですごく嫌なんだけど。

自分のだけかな？

電池室の蓋が動くような感じがして嫌だね
安いのだからと自分にいい聞かせてます

っ ｱﾛﾝｱﾙﾌｧ

ITのインタビュー受けてた頭の寒そうな人って以前からいた人？
恐らく中の人が昨日言っていたガイドブックに関わった人なんじゃないかと思うんだが
最近みかけるようになった気がする
谷口氏のブログにも登場してる

できればメディアが10Mでなく6Mを選択したことを評価して欲しいが
ソニーの記事を見る限りは無理っぽいね

俺のはならないから個体差かな？

>>93
おろ？　自分のDsはリセットされてないよ？
まだ1回しかローパス清掃に出したことないけど。

http://bx.ws3.arena.ne.jp/PENTAX/K100D/K100D/

K100D分解写真

若干グリップ部の剛性が足りなくて電池蓋と擦れちゃってるみたい。
馴染んでくると音出なくなるかな。

>>228
スゲェ

>>228
不器用な俺には絶対できねえ芸当だな。

>>209
だからAvモードだと露出誤差が出ると何度言えば・・各説明書にちゃんと書いてあるよ。
http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/support/man-pdf/istdl2.pdf
DL2ならこれね。−「絞りリング使用」設定時の注意−参照。
Mモード瞬間絞り込みが面倒ならAvでの誤差を感覚で覚えて調整すべし。

はやくＫ１００Ｄの取説がアップされないかな。

K100D、買う気まんまんだったんだけどジャギーが多いような？

↓オレンジの救命胴衣
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/58064-4175-13-1.html

↓値札
http://arena.nikkeibp.co.jp/rev/20060714/117680/15z.jpg

↓左上の葉っぱ
http://it.nikkei.co.jp/photo/camera/review/pentaxK100_200607snap/abf.html


撮影状況とかも影響してるとは思うんだが…
これって他のカメラでも起こり得る現象なんだろうか？
もしくは、ファームUPで改善できるとかなら買ってしまいたいんだけど…

おそらく設定が「鮮やか仕上げ」だからでは？
「ナチュラル」で撮ればこうまではならないと思う。

まぁ、RAWで撮ってお好きなように・・・

>>233
そんな事くらいが気になるなら一生買わないでおいた方がいいよ。一眼
どの機種でもそれなりに傾向あるものだし

>>189
大変分かり易いインタビューなのだが、この頭の毛の不自由な人は
ビジュアル的にいかがなものか。

>>228
あれだけ開けておいて、その結果、

　とりあえず手ブレ補正スイッチの操作感を軽くしときました。

というのが微笑ましいｗ

>>236 包み隠さない所が良い。

>>231 有難う。　正式サポートはMモードのみと言う事なんだろうね。
AE-Lすると電源切ってもそのときの露出値をずっと覚えておいてくれるからそれほど面倒でもないね。
明るさが変化している時は1ステップの動作はもったいないけどね。

まあなんだ軍事評論家の江畑謙介の例もあることだし
インパクト十分

最初K100D買おうと思ったけど、店頭にまだ無かったし、結局ニコンのD50買っちゃった。

そんなに違いはある物なのか。

手ぶれはK100の方が優れてるのは置いといて、
D50の方がいいところってある？

そしたら自分に納得出来るんだけど。

このスレで聞くことではないな。

>>241
残念だが明らかな失敗だ

どう答えて欲しいのやら。
買ってしまってから聞く事ではないな。

>>241
VR＋SWMつき望遠を使うならD50の方がはっきりいいね。
ペンタは望遠域が弱すぎる。

jpegで撮る時鮮やかとナチュラルどっちにしてる？昨日買ったんだけど鮮やかは結構派手な
気がする。RAWで撮ればいいと言われると思うけどそれほど画質にはこだわらないんで・・

電池の持ちくらいじゃないかと

>>241
レンズラインナップが充実しているとか

>>236
櫛いらずの頭だけど、名前がクシなのね。
2年前からK１００Dの開発をスタートしていながら、ＤＳ、ＤＬを立て続けに出すあたり
ペンタもなかなかやるじゃん！？

>>241
K100DからDS2なら答えようがあるけど。
もう君とはさようならだね。

菜々子ちゃんのD50ってところとか

>>241 もうこのスレは一切見ないようにすれば幸せになれるかも。

>>241
D50売ってK100D買ったおれとは真逆だな。
あえていうなら、レンズラインナップ、電池の持ち、上級機がある、ことぐらいかな。
おれは、レンズを揃える趣味はない、電池がなくなるほど一度に大量に撮影しない、D200には興味ない
でニコンにこだわる理由はなかった。
あとニコンにはボディ内手ブレ補正やゴミ取り、ライブビューみたいなデジタルならではの機能がないから
趣味のオモチャとしてはつまらないと思った。

>>241
今月か来月の小遣いでK100D買い足す
気に入らなかった方を即行ヤフオクで売っぱらう
でも上位機種への夢見るならニコンかな

>>241
D50で良い写真を撮って下さい。それではさようなら。

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荒らすのも馬鹿だよなｗ

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>>228
他の分解も見てみたかったんだけどINDEXページが見つからない。
どこだ……。

荒らし君よ、はっきり言っておくけどさ、後天的な精神障害を負った奴の生きる場所は日本にはないよ。
先天的な知恵遅れとかの人に対しては、世間も社会的にもそれなりに手厚いけどさ、
お前みたいに自分の精神がヘタレなせいで勝手にぶっ壊れたｗ負け犬に対しては、世間はとても冷たい。
昨今の異常犯罪見てみなよ。お前みたいな奴は昔は哀れみと嘲笑の対象だったけど、
今では社会悪というわけだ。
ひとつまじめに聞きたいんだが、そんなになってもまだ生きていたいのか？

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D50ってそろそろモデルチェンジだよね


ペンタも赤飽和を問題視していたようだが対応出来たのかな

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デジカメ如きのスレを必死で荒らす人生か･･･


何でそんな風になっちゃったんだろうねw

>>241
>D50の方がいいところってある？

ほかでもない君の手元に来てくれた、ということだ。

K100Dにしかないものもあるが、D50も十分にいいカメラ。
これも何かの縁、使い倒していい写真を撮りまくってくれ。

....で、余裕ができたらこっちへおいで！

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D50のいい所はAFが早い
最終的に行き着くレンズが決まってる
NXのUポイントが鬼

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>>241
はじめてのデジイチなら、色々使っているうちに
自分に必要な機能とかがわかってくると思うので、
それがこの機種に合致するのであれば、買い増しや買い替えをすればｲｲﾖ。
そんなに効果でもないんだから、共存も十分可能だろ。

まあとにかく、機種は何でも、自分がいいと思える写真を撮れたらそれでいいんだから、
機種が違うだけでけなすようなバカや、ここを荒らしてる精神異常者みたいにだけはなるなよw

ゴミケーンもどきのキチガイか・・・頭悪いの移るからやめとけｗ

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キチガイコピペばっかしてると、おまえも夜間肉体労働者になるぞwwwww

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>>246
ナチュラルで彩度とシャープネスを＋補正ってのが多い鴨

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>>291


マジで夜間肉体労働者になるからやめとけ。

>>293
そいつは成年被後見人なんだよｗ

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>KJPXu/FK0
君さ･･･明日も明後日も、ずーっとこのまま
そんな書き込みばっか続けていくつもりだとおもうけどさ、
現実を見てごらんよ。まだまだ先が長い人生だろ？
その年で社会から落ちこぼれてさ、これからの生活は
どうするんだい？生活費は？老後は？家族は？
この先何年、何十年も毎日毎日こんな事ばっかり
やっていくのかい？今だけ今だけと思いながら
目をそらしても時間は間違いなく過ぎていってるんだよ？

もう取返しつかないところまで来ているね。
君･･･本当にどうするんだい（ｗ？

彼もまたキャノネッツの被害者だよ

合掌 db

>>294

禁治産者か・・・・夜間肉体労働者と一緒じゃん。

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>>299
はいはいきやのんがいちばんだよ

またGKが荒らしてるのか！

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>>294
禁治産者の表現って…
民法改正で今は使いませんよ

>>298だった

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店頭だとDS2の方が高い件。つか、K100Dが安過ぎだな。
特に不具合も出て無さそーだし、俺もそろそろK100D買おっと。

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>>302

おまえ、学校で習っただろ？

士・農・工・商・えた・非人・夜間肉体労働者って。


おまえも夜間肉体労働者になりたいのか？？？


>>303
おれの脳内の民総は１５年前で止まってるからｗ

早く成年後見人なんとかしろよｗ

>KJPXu/FK0
お前、人格障害だろ
一生治らない病気なのは同情するけどさ、
ここはおまえの精神病治療病棟じゃねえんだよ。

おまえこの先、生きていて、何かいいことあるかもしれないなんて本気で思ってるんじゃねえだろうな。
そんな精神状態でこの先幸せになれるかもしれないなんて、まさか思ってないよな?



　ま　さ　か　病　気　が　治　る　な　ん　て　お　も　っ　て　な　い　よ　な　？　？　？　



現実を見ろよ、
お前、明日とかどうすんの？

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手動でコピペしてたら笑うけどな

事件を起こしたからって、ここで池沼の振りしても裁判で有利にならないお＾＾

それはいいとして、秋の中級機もSR載ってるかお？

>>314
ゴミケーンは手動だぞｗ

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ちょい聞きたい。
彩度・シャープネス・コントラスト、画質（鮮やかorナチュラル）
の設定ってRAWのときは後から変えることができるのかな？
主にJPG向けの設定なんかな。

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GK ってなに?

おまいら過剰反応せずに、華麗にスルー（選択単語を透明あぼーん）しる。

こんなやつがカメラ買ってもなにもないだろうにｗ

俺まだ高2だけど、この荒らしの親を正座させて説教してやりたいよw
犬猫みたいなの作ってんじゃねーよって

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>>320
GK＝ゲートキーパー＝ソニー工作員

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おまいら、>>241に余裕だなｗ
それだけK100Dが良いってことの表れだな。

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>>328
アフォなこと質問するから呆れてるだけだと思うが・・・

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まぁ、ここまできたら、「自治厨支援協会小倉・折尾支部」とやらが、１０００まで埋めるかが見物だなｗ

「自治厨支援協会小倉・折尾支部」ちゃんよ、途中でケツ割らんと最後まで責任もって埋めろよ！
それくらいの覚悟があっての仕業だろうな！



んじゃ、ゆっくり拝見させて頂こうwwwww（たぶん、今夜中には無理だなｗ

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こういう荒らしする奴って、結構近いうちに氏ぬやつ多いんだよな
事故とか自○とか・・・・。
自分でも本能的になんとなくわかって、衝動が湧き上がってきているのかもしれないね。

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>>335

アフォか！最後までケツ拭かんかい！どアホが！！！

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>KJPXu/FK0
違ってたらスマソ
あんた、もしかして氏名のどこかに色の文字入ってない?

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ごみケーソは夜勤クビになったのか？

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とりあえず通報しといた。

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>>344
なってないよ。

今、アホなことやってんのは、ゴミケーンのパチモン

>>345
そうか・・・もし入ってたら、>>337はずばり賞だったんだがw
まあ生きていても何もいいことなさそうだけどね。

鳥ぐらいつけろやぼけが

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この連投バカも小倉だったら笑えるなｗ

はいはぁ〜ぃ、みなさん再開ですよ〜♪”

レシートを紛失してしまった件について

>>354

・・・おまえだな？

終わった？

>>355
あーあ、1万円札と同価値なレシートを

ＩＤ変わってねえええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええええ

>>356
俺じゃねーよｗ

>>357
まだID変わってねーしwwwww

>>357＝>>353

>>360
スマソorz

>>357
わろた

死に際の言葉が「終わった？」



（失笑

>>357
終わった？

>>355
　 　 ,-ｰ──‐‐-､
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　　 !‐---------‐
　　.|:::i ./´￣￣.ヽ.i
　　|::::i | |＼∧/.|..||
　　|::::i | |__〔@〕__|.||
　　|::::i |.（´･ω･`）.||
　　|::::i |　 ｷﾝｸﾞ　 ||
　　|::::i | ｶﾜｲｿｽｰ.||
　　|::::i L___________」|
　　|::::i : : : : : : : : : |
　　｀'''‐ｰ------ｰﾞ

>>355
店に泣き付いて再発行依頼する
　販売記録が残ってればやってくれるはず

ここ数日で一番ﾜﾛﾀなｗ

>>367
レシートは無理じゃね？
ダメモトで店に聞くのが一番。

送るのはどうせコピーだから Illustrator ででも作れば良い。

一生に一度、見れるかどうかというヴァカをしかと見た！

>>367
けど、買うときいちいち名前書かないでしょ？
どうやって証明する？悪用すれば、いくらでも金になるレシートだよ

>>367
ほんと？ダメもとでやってみる。


ペンタにお布施でもｲｲﾝﾀﾞｹﾄﾞ・・・

やっぱりそういう人出てきたか〜。

いやはや、でも案外板の仕組みを知る正義の味方、管理人の削除行為
だったのではないかな？ｗ流石にスレ乱立は見苦しかったもんね。

普通、領収書・レシート類の再発行はしないよな・・・（ｶﾜｲｿｽ

購入した店に張り込んでK100D購入した客を見つけたらあとをつけて、
その人がキャッシュバックキャンペーンを知らないとしてレシートを捨てた瞬間に拾えばおｋ

>>377
天才！！

>>377
ちょｗｗｗ
保証書と完全不一致

つか、どこかで同程度の金額の買い物して「品代」「電気機器」とか何とかで
領収書切ってもらえば良いんじゃね?

>>380
日付が違うので無理

会社にあと一ヶ所だけ心当たり無いわけじゃないところがあるので
そこに一縷の望み託しますわ。

とりあえずアドバイスいただいた方ありが�d

>>381
じゃあ、俺の１万やるよ

>>382
じゃあもう1台買えば1台辺りのダメージを5000円に抑えられるぞ！！

>>383
じゃあ、俺の１万は382にやるよ

なんでレシートがいるかね。
製造番号だけでもキャッシュバックが重複することはないと思うが。

>>384
天才！！

その日、その店で購入した人をここで募集して、レシートをスキャナか
デジカメで撮ってうｐしてもらう・・

ダメ？

>>388
なんとなく犯罪行為。

もっと直接的に言わんと通じんかね。
領収書なんて 100 円ショップで売ってるじゃん。

正直、探してなかったらあきらめればいいのに。

>>384
あと、もう９台買えば1台辺りのダメージを1000円に(ry

>>386実はペンタの目的は事実関係ではなく、初値がいくらなのか？併売が何か？実際どこで売れたかを知りたいのだよ。
とかいってみる。
SCMが完璧な業界とも思えんしね。

アリカメナイ！　パナマウンガー　ヨカロウモン

金融流れとかもあるしなー。
面倒を避けるためにもレシート添付ってしといたほうがいいんじゃないかね。
実際見るかどうかは別として。

キャッシュバック応募封筒の応募要項には
「購入金額および日付が入ったものなら結構です」
とある。

なんとかならんかね？

>>392
一人一回限り

おいらもレシートをもらってないんだが・・・。
レシートの代わりに納品書でもOK？

中級機も当然CBあるよな

>>397
0歳児でも（ｒｙ

で、里子に出した僕の諭吉君はいつ頃返って来んの？

なんだかんだ言って楽天（キタムラ）で買った俺も
購入金額“および日付”の入った領収書を持ってないことに気づいた・・・・・

>>402
南無阿弥陀仏

今日が10/16だと思い込めば、あるいは・・・

>>402
代引きで買ったなら、受け取りのサインした送り状の控えでおｋ

>>403
なんで今度は1万くれるって言ってくれないんだぜ？

>>405
神降臨
郵便で来たから代金引換郵便物引換金受領証ってのがあるんだけどこれでおｋね
捨てなくてﾖｶﾀ

>>406
１台しか買ってないからｗ

量販店で買っても月は書いてあるけど、日のところには斜線とか入ってたりするよね。
保証書には日付無くても良いんじゃないか？
レシートがあれば。
だめ？

もう一台買う→レシートGET→レシートコピー→なんやかんや言って、即返品。

問題はレシートの日付欄。

>>409
なんやかんやの具体例を詳しく

>>402
おれもキタムラで、クレカで買ったから、
「お申込書」とやらは入ってたが（金額・日付かいてあった）、
領収書はなかった。

とりあえずこれ送ってみてダメだったら、
クレカ引き落とし＆明細届くのまつわ。
来月になるけどなー。

楽天（デジパラ）は、きちんとした領収書を入れてくれたよ。

店でコピーしてもらって、手間が省けたお。

>>355
現金? クレジットカードやデビットカードで買ってれば証明はできるので
領収書（写し）が無理でも納品書とか購入証明書とか、適当なもん作って
くれそうなもんだが。

漏れはJCBカードがキャッシュバックつくのでいつも無利息の1回払い。
おかげでレシート捨てちまった品物の初期不良で助かったことあり。

キタムラの店頭で、店員さんが領収書と証書のコピーを作ってくれました。
お陰で既に郵送済みです。キャッシュバックしたら、2GのSDでも買います。

2GのSDなんて5000もあれば買えるようになったからね。

オークションでキャッシュバック有効とかいってK100D売ってる人がいるが、無効になる可能性があるから気をつけよう。
キャンペーン申し込み用紙にさりげなくこう書いてある。
●第三者からの譲渡品、オークション等で入手された商品、中古品としてご購入された商品は対象外となります。

キャッシュバックは郵便為替の郵送で申し込みから約1ヶ月後だそうだ。

保証書に店名印が押してなくて、別に店が発行したレシート状の保証書を付けてもらった場合は、
店が発行したやつのコピーを付ければOK?

OKでしょう。それが保障印の変わりなわけですから。

>>417
ショップが出している新品なら大丈夫だろうね。
中古とか個人出品ならアウトか。

>>213
…必ずしも同じメーカー系列のシステムLSIが採用されるとは限らない。

部品調達コスト、回路設計上のコスト負担率、他社との水面下のロビー活動
による攻防戦を勘案すると…まったく別のモノになる可能性もある。

＃ 同じだから？違うから？…アナログ特性を重視するならソニー製のほうが
＃ いいかもな。

>>355
>レシートを紛失してしまった件について

１万円札を落としたら戻ってくる可能性が０に等しいのと同じ。
金券を落としたんだから諦めよう。

渾身の演技でウソ泣きすればおｋ！

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQPutvJoYNE

EXがいなくて平和だ…

>>424
今日は休みだから、そのうちノコノコ出現するよｗ
平和なのも一時だけ。

このスレだけはいつも平和（笑）

折尾の池沼がお目覚めですか…

オマエラ…
キャッシュバック￥一万欲しさに必死だな
ｗ

>>428
おまえ金欲しくないのか？

ああ、だから無職なんだねｗ

市原猛志クンｗ、何してんの〜？（笑）

59 名前： ｺｰﾍｰ福岡 ◆T9MjOOq3K. [ｗｗｗ] 投稿日： 2006/07/19(水) 12:34:41 ID:I/r6Nm4p0
>>58
東西線は不要ということでしょうか？

427 名前： ｺｰﾍｰ福岡 ◆T9MjOOq3K. [ｗｗｗ] 投稿日： 2006/07/19(水) 12:52:59 ID:I/r6Nm4p0
折尾の池沼がお目覚めですか…

仕事せず、束縛されず、ゆったり２ｃｈをやりたいなぁ
原稿打つふりしてコソコソ書き込むのはストレスかかる

…仕事してゆったり２ｃｈすればいいんだよ。

ひょっとして…ウスノロか？（笑）

>>430
ねつ造やめれｗ
それか、同じホスト使って２ｃｈやってる馬鹿が俺以外にいるのか？

>>431
そんな君に夜間肉体労働

>>434
カルタと同じような惨めな生活は嫌だｗ

…仕事もデキて２ｃｈもデキる。

低収入の誰かさんだと人様の財布の中身が気になってしょうがないらしいけど（ヲッ、笑）

最近福岡ネタやんねーなー、とうとう博多っ子からも袋叩きにあったか？ｗ

433 名前： 市原猛志 / マターリ福岡人 投稿日： 2006/07/19(水) 13:04:59 ID:5H1a77ty0
>>430
ねつ造やめれｗ
それか、同じホスト使って２ｃｈやってる馬鹿が俺以外にいるのか？

>>437
そういや上の方で荒らしてるやつって、お前と同郷だろ？

>>438
名前欄ちゃんと書けよ（ヲッ

次スレは『 X''CULTer's / Esprit de Digicamと雑談スレ』にしたほうがいい？

誰かさんは北九州の差別スレを立ててその裏で博多っ子を演じてたんだからいつフクロに
されてもおかしくねーんだよな（笑）

>>441
糞田舎九州の話なんて興味ない。あっちでやれ。

九州のことなんか知らんがな

カルタのおっさんは、1000万画素の中級機が出たら
画素ピッチがどうだの言いながら荒らすの？やっぱり
買えない僻み…見苦しい

>>444
いい読みしてるなｗ
ゴミケーンは、いつもなんやかんや難癖付けて買わない。

…市原クンのお国板のデビュースレがこれ（笑）→http://makimo.to/2ch/ebi_chiri/1005/1005819955.html

変質者さながらの発狂ジサクジエンモード炸裂、ってな感じで 「 釣れる 」 とヨカンさせたのは誰もが承知（笑）

＃ ヲ・ヲォ〜レ様降臨のアトは…やはり学歴の差がモロに出て居場所がなくなったらしい（微笑）
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

名前欄ちゃんと書いとけよｗ
↓

あ　ぁ　栄　光　の　北　九　州　


1 名前： 市原猛志 01/11/15 19:25 ID:???

かつては，四大工業地帯にも数えられ,栄華を誇った北九州。
政令市原指定都市の次(東京都特別区を除く)に指定。
一大製鉄基地で高度成長を支えましたよ。
しかし，安定成長に入ってからは,相対的に地位が低下。
今では政令市の歴史の浅い仙台にもあおられる始末。
政令市政令市とうるさい向きもあるが,（下位政令市に多い）
こっちは，40年近い歴史あり。（Ｓ３８年指定）
人材も多く排出しましたさ。，，，なのに，，，


北九州を擁護するスレッドです。

おぐら臭いぞｗやめろ

>>445
カルタの心の葛藤なんて、簡単に読めちゃうよな
50過ぎても薄っぺらい人間ｗ

>>448

ゴミケーンちゃんは、心の葛藤なんてするような高級な精神なんて持ってないよｗ

ただの現実逃避が趣味の妄想癖老人ｗ

>>449
そうだったｗ
現実逃避でローカルネタ貼り付けてるわけだしね

まあここはホンスレじゃあないからご自由に（笑）

>>451
逃　避

ホンスレはこちらへ。
↓
[APS-C/6MP/ISO3200] PENTAX K100D [ﾌﾞﾚﾅｲｽｼｽﾃﾑ･改]
http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1153222709/l50

あと１３２レスｗ

>>453
X''CULTer's様、隔離本スレですね。

了解しました。

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手動連投埋め埋めかｗ

スクリプトくらい使えよwwwwwwwwww

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昨夜の埋立て嵐の遺志を継いだということだな

最後に
おわった？
って書き込むんだろｗ

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あと200KBくらい。80回くらい貼ったら埋まるよ

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貼り付けてるやつって
普段、単純労働者なんだろうなｗ
仕事の癖が抜けないみたいだｗ

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ゴミケーンちゃん以外はこちらに書き込んでください。

手ぶれ補正付き一眼レフ PENTAX K100D Part.11_1
http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1153284696/

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あっちで、埋め埋め必死なんでこっちに書き込もうっとｗ

アホの相手するのやめない?
専ブラ使えばあぼーんできるんだしさぁ
荒しの相手してるヤツらもいい加減ウザイ。

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てめぇはオータムとオーガストの違いが理解できるように出なおしてこいや

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>>521
禿同ｗ

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K100D大人気だね

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あと50KBくらいか。20回程度のコピペで終わる

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自治厨の遺志を受け継ぎ、K100Dスレ全てを葬る男
…かっこいい

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あと12くらいじゃね？

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[APS-C/6MP/ISO3200] PENTAX K100D [ﾌﾞﾚﾅｲｽｼｽﾃﾑ･改]..........................................................................................>>1
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今D50とK100Dを迷ってます。
ユーザーの方はどうですか？
連射はともかく、AFのスピードや合焦精度、高感度時のノイズ。
教えてください。

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この人、ペンタになんか恨みでもあるの人なの？

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