Korea IS That Bad! ttp://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1047179393-77109.txt I'm telling you, the Korean mentality is SO unlike Japan, it's very surprising. Japan and Korea are so close physically, but light-years away in mentality. I've been to Japan three times and ALWAYS been greeted and made to feel welcome. Korea, despite the few decent citizens who actually welcome waygookin, is alarmingly racist, unfriendly, and generally suspicious and unfriendly toward foreigners, particularly Americans. While I was in Korea, I noticed endless anti-American propaganda and demonstrations. What ingrates, considering the fact that we fought and died for them in the Korean War! The younger generation of Korea is incredibly materialistic, shallow, and devious. You'll notice that shortly after starting work there. Good luck, and DO NOT trust ANY one, especially your so-called "friends."
Black or White!! ttp://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:981548424-21048.txt If you're thinking about a job in Seoul, South Korea particularly the Bukbu Wonderful school...think again! If you are of a developing country and not of the desired colour( non-white ), don't waste your time! The conditions may sound great but prejudice is still rife unfortunately!!
KOREA...WHAT CAN I SAY??? ttp://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1022405143-2002.txt But dealing with your boss is another question. In my opinion, Korean business people are the most dishonest people in the world. They are ruthless, deceitful, and cunning. I do not think they know the meaning of words intengrity, human dignity, and respect. They will treat you like a child and try to use you as much as they can.
For those reasons, I would not consider coming back here to work. I would love to visit to see my friends and hang out. But I would never work here again.
ttp://www.eslcafe.com/jobinfo/asia/sefer.cgi?display:1074500057-73280.txt I had a dilema; coming to Korea or Japan. I came to Korea because the cost of living is much lower than in Japan. This seemed like a smart decision. 私は日本と韓国のどちらに行こうか悩んでいた。それで、韓国での生活費は 日本よりずっと安いから韓国に行くことにした。これは賢い選択だと思った。
GENERAL REMARKS: VERY interesting paper so far! I'll be curious to read the rest. I think the overall argument needs to be made more coherent, however. Several points: 「全般的な意見:とても興味深い論文ですね! 続きが気になります。 ですが、全体の論旨はもっと一貫したものにすべきかと思います。…」 と来て、
First and most important, what is your primary purpose in writing this paper? 「初めに、最も重要なことですが、この論文の主たる目的は何ですか?」
冷戦時代は、韓国では、朝鮮戦争を、内戦ではなく「北の侵略」であるという 史観に基き、「北は傀儡政権で、韓国だけが正統政権」という教育が なされていました。しかし、進歩的な歴史学者や学生運動などの努力により、 朝鮮戦争は内戦であり、それを引き起こしたのは米国による単独選挙強行 (1948年)であることが共通認識となってきました。 (Bruce Cumingsの大著"Origins of the Korean War"など)この史観により、 北側を「悪」とみなす認識は否定され、米国こそ 民族分断をもたらした悪であるということが理解されるようになったのです。
Drunken Misconduct Abroad Gives Rise to the 'Ugly Korean' http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200402/200402200009.html Late last year, the Korean Embassy in Manila sent an official request asking Korean Air and Asiana to "excercise self-restraint in serving alcohol to passengers." This is because heavy-drinking Korean passengers were causing disturbances on planes. Last Feb. 3, a dead-drunk Korean passenger caused such a disturbance upon arriving at Manila's Ninoy Aquino International Airport -- he went so far as to take off his pants in the airport -- that within an hour, he was put on plane straight back to Korea. According to an airport official, "He was drunk and caused quite a commotion, pounding on the glass door of the VIP lounge." On Feb. 6, another Korean, who was completely plastered, was arrested in Cebu for assaulting two waiters in a hotel karaoke club.
Local police said that while they were escorting the man to the station, he kicked the police car's door and screamed in Korean. Recently, in the Angeles City area, a Korean professional golfer, Chun Ho-sang, was shot dead by bar employees.
Korean expatriates in the Philippines pointed out that "As far as the incidents and accidents involving Koreans are concerned, there are many cases of unseeming behavior by Koreans becoming problems."
The United Korean Community Association, a group concerned with the Korean community in the Philippines, has started a sticker campaign, posting such slogans as "Let's Preserve our Dignity as Koreans" and "Let's Become Good Koreans" on businesses run by the expatriate Korean community. Recently, four Korean golfers were sent to an immigration detention center on charges of committing "dangerous acts" against a local at a golf course in the Angeles City area. It's known that in the Angeles City area, where Koreans are flocking in droves, anti-Korean sentiment among locals has reached a serious level.
In Southeast Asia, the outrageous behavior of Korean tourists isn't confined to the golf course. According to Jay, a 44 year old operator of a golf tour business in the Philippines, "90 percent of the tourists, once they finish golfing, ask if the can experience the local 'night culture.'" On Tuesday, the Korean Embassy in Manilla warned, "Thoughtless acts by our citizens are likely to cause unnecessary friction with Filipinos, and they can cause damage to the prestige of both they entire Korean community in the Philippines and the Korean nation."
In late 2001, in the middle of Indonesia's Ramadhan holiday season, Koreans at a karaoke club in Jakarta, after getting smashed on boilermakers, tried to coerce the club's female workers to engage in sexual relations with them. When they were refused, the ensuing riot was widely broadcast on local news. According to an employee of a private school specializing in study-abroad programs in the Philippines, "It's a common occurrence for Korean golfers to drink and then curse at caddies or throw tips in their faces." He said during matches, Koreans speak to local caddies in really coarse Korean, saying things like, "Hey, you @#$*, can't you find the ball?"
In addition, local guides say many Korean tourists come prepared with 1.5 liter bottles of soju brought from home. A guide for a travel agency specializing in tours to Bangkok, Thailand, said, "There are quite a few male tourists who, when riding buses, drink from start to finish and scream boisterously." During the day, they snore away sleeping in their buses -- red faced, of course -- and at night, they patrol the local bars and karaoke clubs. This is their basic pattern of behavior, said the guide.
There are those pointing out that unseeming behavior on the part of Korean businesses in Southeast Asia is also provoking bad feelings amongst the locals. According to the Export-Import Bank of Korea, Asia was the largest recipient of overseas Korean investment from 1968, when such investment began, to 2003. When you look at number of investments, excluding China, the United States, and Japan, the next largest targets were all Southeast Asian countries -- the Philippines (3.4 percent), Indonesia (3.2 percent), Vietnam (2.2 percent), Malaysia (1.5 percent), and Thailand (1.4 percent). That's how involved Korean businesses are in the region.
Recently, the owner of a bag making business in Sri Lanka secretly fled the country overnight after bankrupting the company to finance his gambling habit. The furious local workers kidnapped and confined the remaining Korean employees and flocked to the Korean Embassy in protest. This is a prototypic example of what the Labor Ministry, Foreign Ministry, International Labor Foundation, Korean Employers Federation, and Federation of Korean Trade Unions found during a join study on labor conditions of Korean business in Sri Lanka.
According to a white paper on human rights conditions of Korean businesses abroad, published by the Korean House for International Solidarity, hundreds of employees at a sewing shop in Indonesia launched a protest in front of the Korean Embassy in Jakarta when the Korean boss fled without paying them 3 billion rupiah (about W500 million) in salaries. At a handbag factory in Vietnam, the Korean vice president of the company brutally assaulted a door-keeper because the company's door was not closed properly. Authorities confiscated his passport. At another factory in Vietnam, a Korean manager slapped the cheeks of female workers with a shoe for making small talk in the factory. He was deported from the country.
Illegal Korean immigrants in those countries are causing problems both large and small. Because of this, on the bulletin boards of every Korean embassy in Southeast Asia, there are countless appeals like "We're looking for Mr. XXX, who conned us out of tons of money and fled" and "Please catch Mr. YYY, who embezzled our money and fled." On Feb. 2, 33 Koreans who were doing missionary work in the Philippines were barred from leaving Korea and kept in the an Immigration Department confinement cell when counterfeit immigration stamps were discovered in their passports.
On Feb. 5, the Korean Embassy in Manila warned, "If you think that entering the country illegally is expedient, there are limits to how much help we can offer if the local authorities find out." Consul General Jo Hui-yong said Wednesday, "the 'Korean Wave Craze' is spreading in Southeast Asia, but we mustn't allow some thoughtless tourists to ruin Korea's entire image." Expressing concern, he said, "Not just on the golf course, but at tourist sites, airports, and other places, incidents causing friction between Koreans and locals are continuing to occur."
In the winter of 369 AD, Prince Homuda's expeditionary force landed on the northern shore of Kyushu at Hakata Bay on the westernmost of Japan's large islands (Figure 3). On the rich agricultural plain near the present site of Fukuoka, the new arrivals from Paekche established a foothold and began building settlements. They spent the next three years repairing and refitting ships, making weapons, training, storing provisions and getting ready to subdue the territory. Prince Homuda's army pushed eastward for six years, encountering fierce resistance from many of the clans in its path. After subduing its opposition by surrender,outright conquest, or death, the expeditionary force finally halted on the rich agricultural plain formed by the Yodo and Yamato Rivers at the head of Osaka Bay. Having gained control over the central part of the country, Prince Homuda proclaimed the creation of his new kingdom, taking its name from the surrounding region and giving the country its first official "name" - Yamato.
中国人がチベッット問題で「じゃインディアンのことはどうなんだ」 と偉そうに反論する度に「そんなことでチベット侵略を正当化するんだったら、WWUのことで日本を責める資格もないだろ」と言ってやりたくてたまらないんですが、なんせ英文あまり書いたことないもので。 たとえばこんな文、変ですか? how could you say such a thing! Your coutry's aggression against Tivet is right? unbelievable!!! if China doing aginast Tivet is right because America done the same thinag in past times, you Chinese also have no right to blame Japan on her wartime doing . Do you think so?
WTF? (What the fuck?の略) Are you seriously justifying the outrageous human rights violation your government is commiting in Tibet? If you could excuse what China is doing to Tibet right now by refering to the atrocity of native Americans, you have no right to criticize the Japanese invasion of China in WW2, either. What a retard.
Nearly 60 years ago, you Chinese were on the receiving end of aggression. Japanese that did this, have stopped doing so then. Yet, 60 years later, Chinese still doesn't realize that this kind of brutal colonization have no place in this age and instead keep saying 'so-and-so did that so we can do the same'. Will Chinese stop acting like infamous 'JAP' now, or will they have to wake up with a mushroom cloud over Beijing?
As stated before, not all Koreans hate/dislike the Japanese, but do understand why some do hold a grudge against them. I remember the stories my late grandfather told me about how life back in the 30's to mid 40s. He was forced to speak a language not native to him and his family, and speaking Korean in public was punishable by public beatings (at least it wasn't death), and only time when they could speak Korean was when they were in their own homes, but even then it near impossible since Japanese soldier barging into their homes. I guess living near a Japanese Military base, soldiers would get bored.
I should also mention that after the war, If it wasn't for the Japanese colonizing Korea, we might have only had one Korea instead of two, and After WWII, The North Korean treatment wasn't hell of a lot better. Actually it was genocide.
But truly just to blame it on Japan, that's ridiculous, While Japan themselves are still at fault, most of the blame are the Koreans themselves (Myself included... I guess). I mean because of the isolation policies and not open to trade, and constantly spending billions on worthless wars got us into the mess of the no option becoming a colony of Japan deal.
Nonetheless, I won't deny it but I do have some dislike towards the Japanese, as I don't see why we have to change our given Korean names to live there, the government doesn't allow Koreans to vote, and they seem to think an island which is only 90 km from Korea and 150-200km from Japan (the distance may be different, but it's definitely close to Korea) with a major Korean population, is Japanese territory.
Of course one could dispute that Hawaii should be Japanese instead, and Osaka should be Korean since majority of the population is Korean. But these are just minor and dismissible rants.
I myself have no grudge against the Japanese, as I find them cool, and also have several Japanese friends. It's not the people I don't like, just the government, but then again I hate all forms of government.
>169 > they seem to think an island which is only 90 km from Korea and > 150-200km from Japan (the distance may be different, > but it's definitely close to Korea) with a major Korean population, is Japanese territory.
Around universities, "Patriotic Blind Dates" are the fad. Before going out on a "Patriotic Blind Date," the couple must remove articles of clothing and accessories, such as watches or shoes, which are made in Japan.
During the date, the couple does not go to coffee shops that play Japanese music, do not eat Japanese food such as udon, or go to Japanese restaurants like Robatayaki-style pubs. They are careful only to eat Korean food and drink Korean alcohols like soju and dongdongju.
It's not just Japanese "hardware" that's refused, either. The couple mustn't sing Japanese songs at karaoke clubs, and if one of the them slips and uses a borrowed Japanese word like "ip-pai" (meaning "full"), that person must pay the cost of the entire date.
When they run out of their blood walking around any places, Goocks can use Kimuchi liquid as blood in all hospitals in Korea. Because Goock's blood is composed of KIMCHI liquid. so they are very very stinc .
>251 読んだよ。 From:supertech ([email protected]) Subject:Re: Korea on the road to Fascism? Newsgroups:soc.culture.korean Date:2004-02-20 15:05:51 PST > It's possible that Huns and Koreans were *remotely* related in blood. > But, it is absolutely ridiculous to say that the Huns were Korean.
If they are related in blood and there is no other blood mixes in between, it only means they are the same racial people.
Koreans are Huns. Koreans still call themselves Hun, you have to know that.
だって。楽しいね。
> Yes, it is. Because you can't tell history from your fantasy. You're > into han-dan-go-gi sort of things, aren't you?
What is han-dan-go-gi? I heard about it, but never read it.
韓国人は数字に弱いようだ。彼らが挙げる数字は一々疑ってみる必要がある。 たとえそれが公式の場で重要な意味を持つ場合であっても… It seems that Koreans have no head for numbers. You had better suspect the number which they mentioned one by one, even if it was the case where it had an important meaning in a formal place --
for example, The other day, the old Korean woman died who had insisted "I was made the sex-slave at the Japanese army". She was 80 years old of age at death. Her opinion said, "I was taken away by the Japanese army to Indonesia at the age of 13, and forced to work as a sex slave for seven years."
According to this, she had become the slave of a Japanese army from 1937 to 1944 in Indonesia. However, in history, the Japanese army landed at Indonesia for the first time in March, 1942. And the Netherlands army surrendered completely in only 9 days. What "Japanese army" was there in 1937 in Indonesia? ( well, if it can do, although I don't want to call her a liar... )
日本人が韓国を笑うというのは、知らない人から見たらレイシストか?と思われるかも。 大義名分がタイトルに必要だね。 Do you think that "Japanese = Korean" ? など、体裁は紳士的に「日本と韓国の文化の違いをお教えします」という形にしたほうがいいと思うけど。 センスが良い人、おながい
In Reply to: ALL GOOKS SHOULD DIE (FUCKIN SICKOS) - by naTE THE hardASS
i kill japs
i made a jap suicide in korea and im not ashamed to admit it. the police here didn't do shit, they just hided his body cuz he was a jap. before he died, my friends and i shitted and pissed on his face. we wiped our asses on the jap flag and made him put it in his mouth. the next day i heard he suicided. i dont feel ashamed cuz hes a jap.
by i wipe my ass on jap July 29, 2001 at 03:56:36 - 211.217.190.38
"Similar accidents took place at the tower in November and December last year, injuring two small girls, Mori Building Co, which runs Roppongi Hills, said earlier."
Oh, god......this is SO Japanese.....
In America no management company would ever make such a statement.. .tantamount to admitting criminal negligence and asking to be named as co-defendants along with the property owners, door manufacturer, architects, maintenance contractors, state, county and municipal building inspectors and any of the custodial staff who weren't quick enough to hide from all the badges. Throw in the Fed Ex woman or UPS guy who just happened to be walking by, too.
I guess things are different in the Land of Sincere Apologies.
Yesterday, they told us only two accidents had occurred. Now it is 32 in total, involving other revolving doors at the complex.
Welcome to Japan where the corporate ethic is cover-your-ass, whether it is revolving doors, wheels that fall off trucks, chickens, milk, nuclear reactors, etc.
dont forget pearl harbour by: lingwei71 (20/M) 03/12/04 08:39 am hey Americans lets stop buying the jap products help ur self and help ur korean friends ..........we are all victims from jap...... think about it....and by da way korean chicks are much hotter than jap disable sushis ....short fat....
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Im wondering this cuz I live in the US (grrrrr) and wanna move to Japan cuz I've always had a fascination with it. Also I think there is a little bit Japanese on my ma's side since... -------------------------------------------
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In college, I had a Palestinian friend who was fascinated with Japanese culture. He was a blackbelt in Judo and spoke the language quite well, I reckon (since he had studied it for over 5 years). When he moved to Japan with his Japanese girlfriend, he told me he couldn't bare the blatant racism he encountered... --------------------------------------------
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Im wondering this because I have a friend living in the US and want to move to Japan because he is always had a fascination with it. Also I think there is a little bit Japanese on his mother's side since... -------------------------------------------
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------------------------------------------- In college, I had a German friend who was fascinated with Japanese culture. He had a blackbelt in Judo and spoke the language quite well, I reckon (since he had studied it for over 5 years). When he moved to Japan with his Japanese girlfriend, he told me he couldn't bare the blatant racism he encountered... --------------------------------------------
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Hey everyone. I was just wondering what life was like for Asian foreigners in Japan. Do you guys face discrimination? I know some Japanese are very prejudiced towards other Asians, especially Koreans.
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Hey everyone. I was just wondering what life is like for Asian foreigners in Japan. Do you guys face discrimination? I know some Japanese are very prejudiced towards other Asians, especially Koreans.
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min10012の投稿 Do Japanese like Indians or Indian descent? Are Half-Japanese MORE ATTRACTIVE than pure blood Ja... Question about Ainu people The war beteen US and Japan never has stopped.
>>493 > Do Japanese like Indians or Indian descent? > Im wondering this because I have a friend living in the US and want to > move to Japan because he is always had a fascination with it. Also I > think there is a little bit Japanese on his mother's side since... 結局彼は単純にコピーしてるわけで、soc.culture.japanでは相手にされません。 クロスポスト先の彼を知らない人から返事が付いたりするけどね。
"ypark" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]... > Hey everyone. I was just wondering what life is like for Asian > foreigners in Japan. Do you guys face discrimination? I know some > Japanese are very prejudiced towards other Asians, especially Koreans. > > I'm thinking about studying Japanese in Tokyo. I went to Tokyo in the > winter and had a really good time. In fact, I think if I didn't speak > no one would have known I was a foreigner. Japanese people were pretty > surprised when I told them I couldn't speak Japanese fluently. I also > got approached for directions a bunch of times.
後は簡単な、英文ぐらい、、、。 I was expecting to have a debate over ??? with you. However, I only see you tried to spread an evil image of Japan on purposely to everybody here. I presented the evidence(s) to support my opinion but you. Your opinion(s) about Japan is(are) based on your hearsay or image you have convinced .
で、そこで聞かれたんですが、 >Anyways, on the news a while back, >I heard that in Japan there was this 12 year old that purposely killed a baby. >They caught him and he admitted to it and everything >but he wasn't in any sort of trouble. How come?
Japan has laws protecting minors from receiving same punishment as adults. Minors are protected because their personalities are still being formed and they could be reformed. Many other countries have similar rules, so check them out. For example, in Britain few years back, a pair of minors killed three years old but they didn't receive same sentences like other adults. Another example is that of child soldiers employed widely in Africa. Instead of detained, they are educated and released back into the society.
いやしかし、どこの国でも部外者に対する反応は同じですね。 「釣りか?」とか「IP抜くぞゴルァ」とか。 ”Hey mods, can we get an IP address check on Dekosuke and saku?” で、最後に「私は信じる」という女性が出てくるとw わかりやす杉w
あと自分で考えた拙い文章ですが貼っときますね。 In Japan, there is one opinion that I should not ask the crime of the boy who committed the crime. It is because of thinking that the rehabilitation into society is hindered when he grow up and correct it. Therefore, neither the name nor the face of the boy were reported. But, another opinion that the act disregards bereaved family's feelings, and There is no security that the boy is reborn. Now, the discussion is continuing to this thing.
"Zapanese" are Korean who speak well of Korea and ill of Japan,US,UK,China,Vietnam,etc・・・, as if ther were Japanese and they say "We are liberal Japanese !"
The origin of the name is Koreans' pronunciation. When Korean comiit crimes in foreign countrys, some of them shout "I am Zapanese ! ". ・・・・Yes, some of Japanese think that Korean cannot say "Japanese" and may say "Zapanese". So, Korean who pretend to be Japanese are called "Zapanese".
You had better know this problem. Please remenber "Zapanese"!
"The Taiwanese population was reduced to a life of great hardship and suffered all manner of deprivations. After the Marco Polo Bridge incident of July 7, 1937, and the full scale Japanese invasion of China which followed, the Japanese authorities in Taiwan embarked on a drive to eliminate Chinese customs and the Chinese way of life in Taiwan and bring the people of Taiwan entirely in line with the Japanese wry of life. This movement took many forms, including making the Taiwanese adopt Japanese names and surnames, promoting Japanese as the official language and encourageing the people to speak it at home, wearing Japanese dress, learning Japanese customs and habits, and even worshipping Japanese gods. All this was aimed at eliminating the awareness of the Chinese in Taiwan of their own ethnicity. The Taiwanese were even compelled to enlist as volunteers in the Japanese armed services."
> That's exactly what the 2ch crowd talks about -- > when a Japanese person reports on prejudices > existing in China/Korea, then the rest of the world > is quick to accuse Japanese of "racism". It's a > double standard.