医者なら英語で

Let's talk in English!

Yeah, let's do it.

Darf ich auch Deutshe schreiben ?

>>3
You fucking should make another thread: "Medical doctors should use German."

Lo siento no puedo porque no se como hablo anglais

>>4 Entschuldigen Sie bitte,dass ich stoere ! Tschuess !

You fucking should make another thread: "Medical doctors should use Spanish."
If you can write in Arabic, DO IT;-<

何語で話すかより、何を語るかの方が重要。

But the title isn't written in English
>1 is absolutely silly

I think English is best language in this thread to talk about medical subjects .

i have no idea

So, what are you going to talk about, >>1 ?
Don't get away from here !

>>8
Don't majiresu.

Don't respond seriously >>8
This thread is just a fun !

おまいら、恥ずかしいから止めろ。
マジでやめろ。
日本人のヘタな英語は寒気がする。

患者も英語で・・・

A tooth hits and is painful to a tongue.
Perfectly, did it with the model?
How much do you think it paid?
Please treat a part for a charge exactly.
Delicately, it is suitable inside too much.

東北弁は外国語だ！
まじでジーさんバーさんと会話ができん。
あと２年３か月の辛抱だが

>>15
No, all Japanese medical doctors DO NOT need to have a
good command of English like native speakers. We need a
simple language as an international communication tool.
All of the workers in foreign pharmaceutical companies
don't speak English fluently. Why do most of the foreign
pharmaceutical companies in Japan have English-training
programs?

>>18
Let's talk in english with them

I am sorry to have kept you waiting so long.We speak Japanese in Japan.
This is the reason why most of the foreign pharmaceutical companies in Japan have English-training
programs.Japaneses are defferent from an international communication.SAKOKU had them spoiled.
They have been only , lonery mankind ,so they can not understand English is a
simple language as an international communication tool.
So long.

>>21
Hi, An American MD would jokingly reply that I have not been waiting
so long because it was one hour ago. So, you mean that 300-year national
isolation, SAKOKU, brought us to cultural isolation in languages,
but people in the nations of Far East commonly has been devoted to
learning the Western culture and keeping their own languages, I guess.

inaka wa iyada. moh,kaertai. eigo? bunka no nai inakani kite wasuretesimatta.

Sontagspaziergang macht frisch

>>23
Even in rural areas, legal or illegal immigrants from Southeast and
South Asia live and work for small factories. Then I sometimes see
their children in my clinic or the municipal hospital at night. Most
of their Japanese is understandable, but I sometimes have to communicate
in English to ask the patients and explain to them.

Which of two expression do you like?
#1. I had the patient hospitalized.
#2. I admitted the patient to hospital.
Of course, the subject is meant as a medical doctor.

My dictionary seems to say #1 is better english. But I think both of them acceptable.

>>27
Thank you for your advice. I've check these sentences with "Google."
About the number of conformity, #2 is more than #1. Probably #2 is
more casual. In my medical record, I usually use the phrase in #1.

A medical English reference says that "The patient developed pneumonia" is
a wrong usage of "develop" because the patient never caused the disease.
It is a usuful expression, however, in writing medical records. How do you
think of this usage?

ネット翻訳してみました。

４　「あなた、性交は別の糸を作るべきです:「医学の医者はドイツ語を使用するべきです。」」

10　「私は、英語が医学の主題について話すこの糸で最良の言語であると思います。」

17　「歯は打ち、舌にとって苦痛です。完全に、モデルでそれを行った?それがどれくらいを払ったと思いますか。
　　　一部分のチャージを正確に治療してください。微妙に、それは内側に、あまりに適切です。」

19　「日本のすべて、医学の医者、DO NOT、母国語スピーカーのような英語をよ?ｭ使いこなす必要が
　　　あること私たちは国際通信ツールとして単純な言語を必要とします。外国の製薬会社の労働者の
　　　すべては英語を流暢に話すとは限りません。なぜ日本のほとんどの外国の製薬会社は英語の
　　　トレーニングのプログラムを持ちますか。」

21　「あなたを非常に長く待たせておいて、私はすまなく思います。私たちは日本で日本語を話します。
　　　これは日本のほとんどの外国の製薬会社が英語のトレーニングのプログラムを持っている理由です。
　　　日本人は国際通信からのdefferentです。鎖国はそれらを損ないました。それらはそうでした、だけ、
　　　lonery人類、したがって、それらは、英語が国際通信ツールとして単純な言語であると理解することが
　　　できません。さようなら。」

22　「今日は、アメリカのMDは、それが1時間前にあったので私がさようならを待っていないとよく冗談に
　　　返答しました。したがって、300年の全国鎖国が言語で文化的隔離に私たちを連れて来たことを
　　　あなたが意味するが、極東の国家の民族が西洋の文化の学習および自分の言語の維持に一般に
　　　専念した、と私は推測します。」

25　「地方にさえ、法的あるいは南東と南アジアからの不法移民は小さな工場のために生きて働きます。
　　　その後、私は、時々夜クリニックあるいは市立病院で彼らの子供に会います。ほとんどのそれらの
　　　日本語は理解し得ます。しかし、患者に尋ねて、かつそれらに説明するために、私は、英語で時々
　　　通信しなければなりません。」

26　「2つの表現のどれが好きですか。
　　　#1。私は患者を入院しました。
　　　#2。私は病院に患者を入れました。
　　　もちろん、主題は医学の医者として意味されます。」

28　「あなたの助言に感謝します。私はチェックを行っています「グーグリになる」を備えたこれらの文。
　　　一致の数(に関して)、#2は#1以上のものです。恐らく、#2はより偶然です。私のカルテでは、私が、
　　　通常#1の中で句を使用します。」

29　「医学の英語の参照は、「患者は肺炎になった」と言います、間違っている使用法である、の「発展します」
　　　患者が疾病を引き起こさなかったので。しかしながら、それはカルテを書く際に、有用な表現です。
　　　どのようにこの使用法について考えますか。」

>>30-39
Thus, automatic translation is not available so far:-)

統計学ができないバカ、英語が読めないアフォ
http://society3.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/hosp/1103786458/l50

Bon soir, messieurs et mademoiselles!! Je voudrais ecriver in francais,
s'il vous plait!!

Pardon, messieurs, "en francais"!! Merci beaucoup!!

ど〜せパソコンで翻訳したんだろ？

>>27
Could you tell me what kind of dictionary you use in medical area, please?
In my dictionaries, there are no usage of "hospitalize" except that it is
usually used in passive form.

It's weird you say that.
In the sentence #1, "hospitalized" is the passive form of the verb.

>>46
The usage of "hospitalize" I found in my dictionaries is only one
construction of sentence: sb + be + hospitalized, I’m afraid.

>>1
How are you?

Why is acetaminophen abbreviated to APAP in many articles?
http://www.pharma-lexicon.com/

>>48
Couldn't be better.

http://www.itoyama.org/contents/jp/column/NICBT/06.html

Hey, how's your Chrismas night, all ?

I'm exhausted... haven't taken no days off for seven days.

>>47
"The patient was hospitalized" is a plain passive sentence.
Then, in the passive *causative* form, it could be "I had the patient hospitalized."
Well, good night and good fight, ciao all.

I had Christmas dinner with my family, and now in hospital to see some
severly-illed patients.

I should have written as "severely-ill patients."

Amare, cantare, mangiare

>>54
I understand what you mean by, but non-native speakers cannot decide a
certain collocation is correct or not, right? Then, we have to look for the
expression really used by native speakers on documents or dictionaries, I
guess.

勝俣せん吉「英語活用大辞典」

>>55
You're a nice doctor!

>>60
Thank you so much, but I have to go to bed now!! Good night!!

>>55
I wish you were a single man.

>>55
and now in hospital →　and (I) am now in hospital　に。

>>26 Please use the sentence #2.
#2 is correct anyway.

>>58 Oh I see. You exactly are right.
Please follow the link below to read a bunch of grammatical explanations :
http://academy3.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1103192798/807-900

>>64
Thank you for your advice, and the discussion in the thread is interesteing.
Searching the phrase "have the patient hospitalized" with Google, the
following site was found: http://www.orthopedictechreview.com/issues/nov00/pg24.htm
However, the number of conformity is a few.

Could you tell us your opinion about the writer's article?

Watching the discussion on English@2ch board about the phrase: “have+sb+
hospitalized," no appropriate answer will not be replied. A sample expression
on a dictionary: "They had a chart spread on the table" has the same
construction and nuance as the sentence, I think.

Merry Christmas to all 2-channnelers in this thread !

>>67
And Merry Christmas to you!

http://www.asahi.com/international/update/1225/003.html
It is a time to change Merry Christmas! -> Happy Holiday!, isn't it?

Season's greeting !

>>68
Thanks a lot from 67 !

Wish you all have a happy new year too !

xoxoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxxoxo!

>>69
It is a time to -> It is time to

>>70
Season's greeting ! -> Season's greetings

I’m checking the name of diseases for medical insurance tomorrow.
It would take five or six hours. Though it is a monthly routine work,
it bothers me every time.
On the board of English@2ch, I talked with the residents. I feel would-be
English specialists has special pride in their skill for them to be superior to
people in the other area, and a little boastful. They won’t kill other people
due to their failure, and we the medical people use English for communication
and medical record. The attitude of each people in using English is different.

Any luck this Christmas ?

Actually,Christmas day is a not day for luck.
A day for thanking for God and getting together of family.

>>76
You should realize that Christmas is a day for making love, here in Japan.

Christmas lasts 7days.
It means We are having Christmas holidays, right now!

Record your carte? in ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!

Christmas finished at last. Next, the New Year comes on at once.
Leisurely [ you and the world ] is it ready for being glad and being on duty, looking at a mood with one eye?
We are God surely. In the world, the New Year and We are on duty.

Fuck you, all!

>>79
In handwriting, I write medical records in English and Japanese, what the
Pt. says in Japanese, and technical terms in English.
When I write them with PC, I use only English because it is bothersome to
switch IME.

ここはバカの巣窟か？

DAM, DAM, FUCK

>>82
Fuck you too !

>>83
You are idiot !

YOU are an idiot,too.
Don,t forget the article.

Oops！

I intended to make a mistake anyway.

My name is John. I have a pen.

Oh! My God!

My name is John. I have a pen.
What is your name? Have you a pencil?

Oh, no !
Do you have a pencil ?

Hi, I am Dick !
Do you like me ?
Ladies like me very much .

Hi, Dick.
They like you very much.
You are a good boy.

Thanks John.
They like sucking me.

Yeah, right...
Are you having good time with your dick ?

NO,absolutely,not!
Because, my dick is so poor.
I don,t want... let him down....but,but....
Anyway,I am interested in getting rid of mistakes.
Have you GOT a long one,John.
Bye! Work.work.work....(worm)！

No, dick is not the matter.
What matters is how you use it, not itself.

ばか

βακα

U SUCK

I was pesu.

I like pussy
and you?

I like cat
http://www6.plala.or.jp/pato/numeri/cat2.GIF

Ach, liebe ich auch die Katze.

I wish you all to have a very happy new year ☆

Happy New Year !

This year would be worst in the past 10 years, though.

English is natural ..it is possible to speak.. the doctor in the age today.
The doctor who cannot speak English might be not able to work.
English is indispensable to the information society
and the informationization medical treatment in the future.
Let's hold out more also by everybody of 2 channels and study English.

>>109
"The" worst, right ?

>>110
Finally, we need English to import or export medical technique.

>>111
Sometimes defenitive articles of the superlative degree would be
omitted in descriptive method, right?

>>112
In the next decade, you use English to communicate with
healthcare workers from foreign countries, I think.

If we could have easily used the Internet and English communication in 1980's,
The HIV disaster would have been avoidable in Japan
as not a few medical people read CNN now.

>>115
I don't think so.
Have you ever heard Abe's mistake?

>>116
No I don't think so. That occurred because of the MHLW's misleading.
Before the initial mtg., the MHLW's policy was supposed to ban the use of
non-heated blood products, and for this purpose, several authorities
were gathered. However, at the second mtg. one week after, the policy had
completely changed and the expectable miserable result occurred.

The officers in charge, Matsumura and Gunji, failed to choose the members
of mtg, especially the personality of Gunji is not suitable to tough
negotiation. The fault should be attributed to the tactical failure of the
MHLW, I guess.

Some sensible pediatricians never gave their patients non-heated
blood products, their patients, not to mention the result, were
not infected with the HIV virus.

>>118
HIV = Human Immunodeficiency virus
not HIV virus

>>116
If Japanese pediatricians usually had seen CNN with Internet, they
would not have given their patients non-heated blood products. The
nations where the victims of HIV are numerous are Japan and France
among the advanced countries. That could be because they are out of
the area speaking English.

>>120
You mean, pediatricinans who didn’t have English communication skill should have more responsibility rather than MHLW. Do you?

>>121
Don't many pediatrician concerned feel their fault at all?

Then He said, "Go out, and stand on the mountain before the Lord."
And behold, the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind tore
into the mountains and broke the rocks in pieces before the Lord,
but the Lord was not in the wind; and after the wind an earthquake,
but the Lord was not in the earthquake;and after the earthquake a fire,
but the Lord was not in the fire; and after the fire a still small voice.

Country road , take me home
To a place I belong, ♪

West Virginia, mountain momma
Take me home, country roads

Almost heaven, West Virginia
Blue Ridge Mountains, Shenandoah River
Life is old there, older than the trees
Younger than the mountains, growin’ like a breeze♪

>>125
Thanks a lot !

>>126
Not at all！

Go up!

Ｓｉｌｌｙ HN ''Dick''

>>129
Yeah, that's what I intended to do.
But the name Dick exists as a real name and there are many boys called Dick.

Tomorrow, I have to work. Blue... blue Monday...

Get it up !

Hi, guys.

>>131
It's still blue for me on Wednesday .
I hate work.
I love dating with pretty girls.

Japanese medical students can learn medical technology in their own
language in their medical school though Philipino students can't do it.
However, Once they begin to work internationally, Philipino doctors
take advantage in this area. Japanese medical doctors gets their positions
to transrate English medical journals.

Which doctors is obsolute? It's clear, isn't it?

Well, if you're a medical student, you should buy medical books in English.
It will help you to read medical journals in future.

What matters is that many Japanese doctors can read books in English,
but cannot speakvery well.
If you go abroad for some kind of conference, you will find many Japanese
doctors having trouble with answering questions.
Doctors in other asian countries have very strong accent in English, but
they speak their opinions fluently.

>speakvery
Oops, forgot to make a space between speak and very.

Japanese doctors are hard-workers and they are very good researchers.
But they have disadvantages in their English so I think they are not
deserving what they should deserve.

Many of you have learned medical English, I guess.
I wish there were medical English converstation program.

I love making silly remarks, but I have to be serious sometimes.

>>135
Dr. Dick, you're right. All Japanese doctors seem to have speech disturbance
in English.

Don't kiss me baby we can never be
So don't add more pain
Please don't hurt me again
I have spent so many nights
Thinking of you longing for your touch
I have once loved you so much ♪

>>133
>girl's'?
Your dick might be very busy and hard working as you are.

Hey!Suck my dick!

English板には、ボランティア的な日本語 → 英語、英語 → 日本語の翻訳
スレがあるが、専門的な医学的な文章は無理。このスレが、そういう翻訳依頼、
表現の質問の書き込みも可にした方が、有益だとふと思ったが。そういうのが
得意な医師も多かろうに。

>>142
Would you write in English in this "sure"?

Anyway, when I went to the international congress and spoke my research,
I felt many speakers from other countries could not speak Enlgish. However,
The difference is that they do not worry for mistaking their English.
I think the people in Japan feel to speak perfect English. But this is not so
important. The point is that you have and speak your opinion to oher person.

>>142
> There are some threads on the English board in which some volunteers
> answer the questions that are posted by the other about translation from
> Japanese to English or from English to Japanese, the usage of words and
> phrases. However, the problems of medical English are hard to solve in
> the threads because of its specificity. So, it would be useful that we permit
> such Q&A, I guess. There are many doctors who are good at that in this
> thread.

>>143
Does the above make sense?
Okay, you mean that English is only a tool of internatinal communication?
I agree to the opinion, but there are many expression which might cause
misunderstanding between speakers and listeners. If doctors in such kinds of
trouble can get some advice, it will be useful, won't it? Do you think so?

Hotta imo ijiruna?

>>140
Hi, my dick is not as busy as yours.
I love dating with pretty girls, but in reality, I have no chance to
do threesome.

Is anyone here ?

Nobody Nowhere

Ah, you are there !>>148

I'm lonely. orz

↑
It is a consequence of its deeds.

I like Hirosima wife.

Nobody knows who I realy am..

I'm still standing！
Yeah, yeah, yeah !

The board about hospitals and MD's is very boring now. There are
no interensting topics.
It's more interesting to participate the English board and to
translate sentences.

>>155
It is difficult for me, but I will try it.

Hi,Dick!
How was your valentine's day?
Guess,your son have done very good job.

Have a nice weekend.

>>157
Oh, hi ! How are you doin' ?
My valntine's day was miserable.
My son is used only for urination right now. ( uh, oh )

>>158
Thanks & you too have a nice weekend .

Hi, I am DQN.