AFC Champions League in Englis

This thread is built to communicate with foreign people about ACL.
Please write comments in Engish.
When you write comments,please respect each other.
No political topics, No racizm.

Group A
•Al Hilal (KSA)
•Pakhtakor (UZB)
•Al Ahli (UAE)
•Saba Battery (IRN)
Group B
•Persepolis (IRN)
•Al Shabab (KSA)
•Al Gharafa (QAT)
•Sharjah (UAE)

Group C
•Al Jazira (UAE)
•Esteghlal (IRN)
•Al Ittihad (KSA)
•Umm Salal (QAT)
Group D
•Bunyodkor (UZB)
•Al Shabab (UAE)
•Sepahan (IRN)
•Al Ettifaq (KSA)

ｗｔｆ？

Group E
•Ulsan Hyundai (KOR)
•Newcastle Jets (AUS)
•Beijing Guoan (CHN)
•Nagoya Grampus (JPN)

Group F
•Gamba Osaka (JPN)
•FC Seoul (KOR)
•Sriwijaya (IDN)
•Shandong Luneng (CHN)

Group G
•Shanghai Shenhua (CHN)
•Kashima Antlers (JPN)
•Suwon Bluewings (KOR)
•Singapore Armed Forces FC (SIN)

Group H
•Central Coast Mariners (AUS)
•Tianjin Teda (CHN)
•Kawasaki Frontale (JPN)
•Pohang Steelers (KOR)

inglese?

go to dejima!!

Kashima sucks as all know
they r the scum of J

>>1
Ichiotsu!!

>>1
GOOD JOB

Sorry correct title is
AFC Champions League in Englis(h)

Engels?

Us foreigners don't use 2ch, we prefer RSN or BigSoccer. Thanks for thinking of us, though ;-)

petit angel?

nihongo de ok

Ugly kashima

No kashima

I want to knead your breast.

>>12
what is "RSN"?

Nuova Soccer Ratina

AFC Champions League MD1 Results
http://www.the-afc.com/eng/articles/viewArticle.jsp_168528099.html

>>19
thanks.
but,if possible,URL plz.

>>5
Si, inglese. Non parli italiano

>>18

Rising Sun News.


There are many foreigners who follow Japanese soccer. Just gotta look for them ;-)

>>12
welcome to such dirty web!

>>23
thank you so much!
http://www.wldcup.com/Asia/

interesting website.

>>24

You guys aren't as bad as 4chan.


>>25

No problem! The guy who runs RSN knows his stuff.

Maybe next you guys will start to find all of our team-related blogs....

>>26
4chan?
I learnt the website for the first time.

It becomes my study.
I did not know on what website the foreigner was obtaining information on Japan.

>>27

I wouldn't suggest using 4chan to study anything. There are much better English-based sites about Japan (JapanProbe, 等)

>>26
Oh,sorry.
You look like enjoying Japanese soccer,aren't you?
Please stay slowly!

>29

I've been going to J.League games for 3 years now. There are others, too...

http://www.tricolorepride.com
http://omiyaallezallez.blogspot.com/
http://s-pulseukultras.blogspot.com/
http://sangananbanjin.blogspot.com/
http://www.aishiteru-tokyo.com

Spreading J.League one post at a time.

>>27
４ｃｈ is the secret community in 2ch.
If you want to enter you have to chant a spell.

Simply, Write the name field "fusianasan".

ahngoaaaaaaaaa━━━━━━━━━ξ*｀∀´>━━━━━━━━l!!!!!

My dick is bigger than Hulk's one. But I don't use it anymore.

Welcome to Korean, Chinese, Australian, Singaporean, Indonesianm, 
Uzbekistan person, Arabian, Persian, everyone...

>>31
OK. I test it.

suck my fuck'in cock!

>>31
fuck you!
My individual information has been revealed, because of the writing.

This is a pen.

>>30
Oh,great!
I'm Nagoya grampus supporter.
This is first time challenging to ACL for our term.
How do you feel Nagoya?

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To foreginers

Please ignore dirty expressions.
Sadly,there are some people who want to write dirty comments in this BBS.
Don't take it seriously.

>>39

Most of us think that Nagoya has a strong chance to win J1 this year, as long as they don't put too much effort into the ACL.

Because of traveling schedules, jet lag, etc, it's too hard for a team to win ACL and J.League in the same year. This happened to Gamba last year, Urawa the year before that.

>>37
You kidding. me?
Check it up. you've a spelling mistake.

>>30
I'm very surprised at those HP are updating so often.
Who runs those HP?
Most of them are running by UK people?

>>1
Act in VIP.

>>42
Well,Our coach says J1 win is thefirst.
However,he seems to get all titles!
Thank you for your attention.
Please come to our game if you have some time!

ahngoaaaaaaaaa━━━━━━━━━ξ*｀∀´>━━━━━━━━l!!!!!

ξ*｀∀´> oh so cute. who is this?

>>47
unemployment

>>44

I run one (I won't say which for obvious reasons). I'm American for the record.

Almost everyone running the blogs are foreigners living in Japan. Lots of UK people, Italians, other countries here and there.

englis

>>47

urinara's best player & symbol

>>47
He is a legend World Cup star!
And, it is a living god of siokan.

日本語で話せよ阿保ども

Kashiwa Reysol

wtf
thread title is mistaken.

Aussie should be Kangoooloo

37: :2009/03/12(木) 15:47:18 ID:DVmlQ/AA0 [sage]
AFC Champions League in Englis
http://ex24.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/soccer/1236832173/30


なんか面白いスレが出来てるぞ
Jの英語ファンページ紹介されてるし

my chinko is dick dick

lol

백치 것은 그만두고, 반도에 오십시오.
독도는 일본 영토이다

>>32>>47
ｆuck'n　ｊung-hwan

　　ﾋﾞｼｯ！
　ξﾉﾉλﾐ
／ﾉ｀Д´>　　
＼AhnJH）
　｜ ｜　|
　〈＿フ__フ

熱烈歓迎中国人和台湾人

I can find so many Siokan people here.

URIHONG!!!

　 ∧＿∧　SPLAAAAAAAAASH!!!!
　<丶｀Д´>ﾉﾉλﾐ
　　⊂彡☆))Д´>

oppai oppai

Oppai means titties .

few people talk about ACL.
this thread becomes depoppulation!

At this moment I don't have much to talk about the ACL.
Except Kashima's misery.

stay free Kashima's misery

Ich humbarte der unko.

urawa reds is the best.

i am tianjin teda supporter

Welcome!!
Did you come yesterday?

>>75 yes ,it is me
u know me?

Dragon Ball Evolution is crazy movie.

>>77 how to pronounce my name in japanese?...
like gragon ball?or 天津饭?

>>76
I wasn't there at that time,but I read later.
how did you find this BBS?
This BBS is mostly written in Japanese.

>>79 i have watched densha otoko years ago......
so i know 2ch

I am Gamba supporter.

I seemed that shangton is weaker than I have thought.
So, I want to ask to Chinese.
Did they showed their real ability and style in that game(´・ω・｀)??

>>78
泰 is "yasu" in japanese pronounce.

>>81 no,that is not the real ability
they lose their key player zhou haibin
he joined eindhoven in free transfer and buy nobody is market
minutes ago,they sign a mf from koln,u can find it in news

>>78
天津 pronounced tenshin in Japanese.
so, 天津fan=tenshin fan. 天津飯=tenshin han.

>>80
Oh,I see!!
Japanese drama is great!

What is your name which you want to know the Japanese pronounce?

>>84 i see...we discuss the mean of 天津飯 when i was a child....
>>85 sorry,i do not understand your mean...u want know my name?or how do i know japanese pronunce?

>>86
never mind.
I think >>84 has already answer.

>>86
Now do you know the 天津飯 which japanese love to eat?
Have you ever eaten it?

and I think >>85 wanted to know the meaning of your question.
we can't tell whether you want to know the reading of "天津fan", or"泰fan".

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB:Tenshin-han_by_woinary_in_Osaka_Intl_Airport.jpg

This food sounds like chinese food,but actually it was made in Japan.
Because of the name of the food,many Japanese people think it come from China.

是 上好
2ch中意的？

>>88 yes i know u like 天津飯,and have away's kitchen in kawasaki...
but,haha,天津飯is not exist in tianjin... so i never eat it,but i want to....
天津飯 was invented by nihon jin
and i like japanese ramen~~


i just want to know why every nihon jin see my name ask me the same question...

>>89 u are right
>>90 sorry...i do not understand your mean...

>>90 i remeber your name kawasakifan haha

What sport is the most popular in China?
In Japan,baseball is the most popular,and then football is next,may be.

なんというほのぼのスレ

>>85 i like japanese drama,i have watched much
1 litre no namida,haha and kui-tan ...

>>91
I heard 天津飯 was invented by Japanese, but the ingredients of 天津飯
must be easy to get in China or 天津. So I want 天津 people to make and
eat it. And want to know your impression about 天津飯!!

>>94 i think it is football,next is basketball,but i do not like it
i like baseball either,my city have the best baseball team in china
and i have shirt of chunichi dragons and yokohama baystars...

Wow,you also like baseball!
Which is popular,foreign football,or domestic football?

>>97 ok, i will try ...but...how to cook it?
i think it will be good,i like japanese food

>>95
English is ok

Is this a pen?

No! It is an apple

>>99 foreign football is more popular...and my favourite team is milan~
domestic football is popular in my city,other city not...

Please challenge cooking the popular of Japan.
http://image.www.rakuten.co.jp/sumiyoshi/img10113828638.jpeg

>>99 baseball team in our city is tianjin lion
they have played in japan ,do u know them?

>>83
thank u for your answer
and that game is first for 山東 in this season, isnt it?
I hope 山東 gets 3points from Seoul as compensation

I think it is very hard to cook which you have never eaten.
If you have a chance to come Japan,try it!

I feel chinese player individually is talented,
but chinese national team or club can't get a good result so much.
What is the reason do you think?

>>100
It'll be very easy for Chinese people.
put 芙蓉蟹 on the rice. we call it 天津飯 lol

google image helps you if you really want to cook.

>>106 yes,1st game,but we tianjin beat shandong 3:1 in training game!haha
and i hope so,i like your endo very much~
>>107 ok i like japanese food very much~

i have many things to say about it,our country's system is not good....
CFA controlled by government,they are not football professional,just politican
so the young players do not have good environgment to grow
other reason,chinese football place inportant to body,not tec,if you not strong ,you will never play football
but we asian do not fit body football,so....i think japan's way is right
tainjin teda's player is not strong,so we have better tec

>>108 i want to know how to make the soup....around the rice..

天津泰達 pronaunce "Tenshin taitatsu" in Jananese.

I am a 钢巴大阪 supporter.
Do you know "GAMBA" means "fight!" in Japanese?
So, translate by means, GAMBA OSAKA is "加油大阪" in chinese.
It's strange isn't it? Ha ha ha....

Lucky☆Star

I see.thank you for your explaining.

I have to go to bed.nemuiii.
See you again!

>>111 you can speak chinese?
i know the mean of gamba,ganbade!!right?haha
that is all right,a good name
泰達 have no mean in chinese ,do u know?haha
just teda Tianjin Economic Developing Area...

Nice to meet you!!

>>109
but China's weak football team & fan's sigh of grief may be of great value for you
in my opinion.

As a country, China becomes stronger and stronger in these days. And you make
great results in other sports such as Olympic games. So, your weakness in football
is interpreted as a charm point by us neighbors.

So, please stay your corrupted readers in CFA for the peace of asia lol

>>113 see you!
>>112 i like lucky star~~柊 つかさ大好〜〜MOE~~

HONYAKU KINOU?

>>109
thx(^O^)
Endo is best player in this team.
He also have given good evaluation in overseas since 2008 ACL

Who is the best player in 天津??
I have never seen 天津s game

>>116 ...i do not know what i should say about it...

>>114
×ganbade
○ganbare (^^)

and Gamba means "foot" in Italy
So Gamba's mascot have characteristic foot!

>>119 best player of tianjin is hao junmin,no.8
had a trial at chelsea when he was 19

http://www.jsgoal.jp/photo/00043600/00043679.html

one of 天津 supporter photo
maybe before the game
did he come from 天津?

>>121 thx to correct~ osaka gamba have another translation in china,means osaka flying foot...
>>123 maybe,i think so....but i did not see him in today's news...

>>124
Do you want other team(北京、上海、山東)'s success in this ACL?
what is your dream result?

>>125 yes,i support the domestic team in ACL
my dream result is tianjin win the champion!~haha

>>122
thanks
I memorize his name!

>>124
oh, thats interest(^-^)
I hope to realize Gamba v Tianjin in this tournament

See you!!

i must sleep~ bye everyone~
saturday i must have an ielts exam,so see you in saturday~~

>>126
>my dream result is tianjin win the champion!~haha
of course you'll think so, but i want to know your dream finalist & semis.
which Chinese club you choose as a finalist?

>>128
ok, bye now.
hope good result in your exam. ^^

thx
加油 for your exam

>>127 i hope so~gamba is my favourate japanese team in ACL~
>>129 tianjin of course~!we have the best attack power in china
and my 2nd support team in china is shanghai shenhua,they have good attack player too
i like attack,even though in winning eleven~~

This is a pen

no no no

this is my pe〇is

>>133-134
Here is horrible internet

なんか英語初心者の学習の場になったなw

I recalled Jeff who was supporting Adelaide.
Moreover, I want him to come to Honsure.

>>135
warota

加地 san cannot play,,,,,,,oh, 加油、

Y2J！Y2J！

Japanese　de　ok

folkdance de narukozaka

hell snufkin hideyuki kanaya

ahngoaaaaaaaaa━━━━━━━━━ξ*｀∀´>━━━━━━━━l!!!!!

only my korea

韓国是在亜洲上最強的国家
韓日世界杯的時候全世界知道了朝鮮民族的能力

i was gay

最近の朝鮮人は中国語を使うのかw

I'm Zapanese

I am a pen

Me too

ja-yo ja-yo soreha nai jaro-

>>146 please use your own language...

anybody here???

>154 did you called me?

>>154
賄賂として天津甘栗を要求する

>>156
http://japanese.china.org.cn/travel/txt/2007-12/18/content_9397406.htm
http://ameblo.jp/kashiwan/entry-10141718509.html

>>154
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX-41QnnbUE

>>154 Hello there was nobody here 如果谁都不在

AFC(アジア)チャンピオンズリーグ(ACL)2009 Part10
http://ex24.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/soccer/1237002683/101-200
come here 　来这边 　准対方做

>>154
Cologne’s Antar joins Shandong ⇒ surprise
3.14 15 J
kobe 2-1 kawasaki yamagata 0-0 nagoya gamba 4-1 iwata albirex 2-1 kasima

Gamba was the only one.

>>156 OTZ.....
>>157 that is better~
>>158 OTZ x 65535...
>>159 thank u~i will go there
>>160 yes,that is a surprise... and thank u for your result~

>>162
IS ACL paid attention by Chinese people?
i hear that football is the most popular sports in China.

>>163 yes,especially this year because 09 acl have more advertisement...
in china there is many people like basketball,but football have more fans

>>164
it's good. if china's team have good result, ACL might be great change. because
china's market is so huge.
i hope ACL will be more attractive event like UEFA CL someday.

Give me chocolate

>>158,162
Chinese can not view "youtube",because of government's rule.
please remenber it. for All Japanese

Chinese can not view "天安門事件",because of government's rule.
please remenber it. for All Chinese. And study it.

Zukkon! Bakkon!

Aawy from politics is not easy thsese days.

>>1-170
日本語でOK

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なんだこれは

>>173
Read >>

mistake...
read >>1

>>1
very important baseball in japan

我覚得在亜洲之内没有朴智星以上的球員

Oh,darn.I forgot the milk.

>>177
安貞恒

>>179
no way

Du Wei

り・てつ

zheng ji

止黄砂飛散

>>184
是在日本発生的和中国没有関係
今天有漢城和大阪的比賽
漢城加油！漢城加油！

>>185
昨天日本黄砂也記録了的
毎年從中國來

的大阪和首爾是硬
手們大的比賽

花粉不快！

>>165 i hope so...
>>167
>>168 we can view youtube,thank u,and we know niconico either...
and i know that 天安門事件,we have proxy server...
>>186 you mean the sand in the air?from china?

SHANDONG　5-0　SRIWIJAYA　FT
NEWCASTLE　2-0　ULSAN　HT

NAGOYA　0-0　BEIJING　HT
NEWCASTLE　2-0　ULSAN　FT

>>188
Yes .
Air looks like yellow a little this season .
I feel hey fever more awful by the sand .

>>191 air in our city yellow either...the sand is from neimenggu province,desert there

todays impression
Beijing was wisely played on the away stadium.
Nagoya was played hesitating.

im sorry english. unskilled..

>>193 beijing is strong this year,and nagoya is tired ....they have too much matches...

>nagoya is tired
i think so too...

685 ：泰fan：2009/03/17(火) 21:46:58 ID:uZoGOMaJ0
ガンバ強いな。。。


Good at Japanese too you are ...

>>196 just copy and paste...
we are wantching the game of osaka....

ここには日本人いないのか？

>>198 haha maybe you are the only one ...welcome to the world~

Tomorrow
19:00　KASHIMA ANTLERS (JPN) - SHANGHAI SHENHUA (CHN)　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　Kashima Soccer Stadium
19:30　SINGAPORE ARMED FORCES FC (SIN) - SUWON SAMSUNG BLUEWINGS (KOR)　Jalan Besar Stadium
19:30　POHANG STEELERS (KOR) - KAWASAKI FRONTALE (JPN)　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　Pohang Steelyard
20:00　TIANJIN TEDA (CHN) - CENTRAL COAST MARINERS (AUS)　　　　　　　　　　　　　　Tianjin Teda Stadium

>>198
pienso q soy el unico!

i will be in tianjin teda stadium tomorrow
forza teda~!

>>198 ....spanish?

>>202
天津加油！

>>204 どうもありがとうございます〜〜

×　Englis
○　English

oh spell miss

>>205
which club is most popular in chinese super league? 北京国安?

天津のスタジアムはプレミア式でとてもいいですね

>>208 every province have their team,everyone support themselves team.beijing will not the most popular team in china
>>209 your mean is our stadium is good?

イングリス

>>210
he said your stadium like Premier League
very good

he said your stadium is like Premier League

英語苦手なんだああああああ

>>212
>>213 thank u all~~
boku wa 日本語苦手~~~wwwwwwww

Hi！ URAWA ！
We are FC Dubai FUN
URAWA is brouter！

>>214
im watching this
Sharjah FC vs Al-Gharrafa
http://atdhe.net/live-tv-5153.html

now Sharjah FC 0-2 Al-Gharrafa
2nd half

>>215 ...where is dubai fc & urawa?ACL?...

>>215
hi! dubai fun :-)

なにこれｗ

>>217
urawa is japan's club, ACL champion in 2007.

>>217 i know...but..what the ralation between urawa and dubai?

Does 天津 seem to be able to win tomorrow?

YES ≪≡：】

FC Dubai is UAE BEST CLUB
NO 1 POPULUR

URAWA FUN is BEST GAY

>>221
maybe.. urawa opened foolball school in dubai

>>222 we have confident to win CCM in home~
>>223 can u explain what is the relationship between dubai and urawa...
>>224 OTZ....

japanese friends...where can i download the match seoul fc vs osaka gamba?...

正　football
誤　foolball

im not good at english

>>227 that is all right...i am not good at eng too...

>>226
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztsh_LyMNwk
japanese

>>225 thank you 加油　支援着

Is it good only to see the highlight?
⇒　youtube

>>229 thank u very much~gamba played a good match

we want to join acl…

>>229
gamba vs seoul

nagoya beijing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Q3_5hJ9Ms

>>232 gambare...maybe next year...
>>230 thank u~i think that is enough...~

Riyadh vs Piroozi Persopolis
http://atdhe.net/live-tv-5154.html

let's watching

nagoya 0-0 北京
How much strength is it(北京）?　←in chinese super league

ACL09 FC Seoul(KOR)2:4Gamba Osaka(JPN) 1/3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etWN694VM_U

FORZA ANTLERS!
that's enough to be called "strong only domestic league"!

>>236 this year beijing bought many star players in CSL like no.5 darko matic,bought from tianjin
and men of CSL 2008 emile martinez,but he can not play in ACL
beijing is one of the strongest team,they want the champion of 09 CSL.
but we have many strong team like shandong tianjin shanghai changchun

>>237 thank u ,but i must sleep now
i will be here when the end of the match tianjin teda vs CCM~

>>239
Thank you. It became study very much.
I seelp. see you Good-bye ノシ

ノシ←これは理解できるのかな

>>242
電車男知ってるからokと思う。

>>223
We all thank a lot to UAE people for our training camp there in 2007 yes when we got the top of the Asia.

In a big match, there is probably nothing better than the support at Saitama Stadium. We love you the Reds, we love you the Reds, we love we love we love you the Reds.

>>242 i can not 理解....
>>243 although i have watched densha otoko...i do not know the mean...
can u tell me the meaning?

>>246

(´･ω･`)ﾉｼ

ノシ　is　net-slang means "goodbye".

（＾−＾）ノシ

Looks like swinging his hand.OK?

not only "goodbye", but "hello" "hey" etc...

>>247
>>248
>>249 thank u all...i know now...interesting..

>>250
With your internet-line , do you see the face write like >>247-248 ?

Ｔhat character string seem to be a face?

face with a waving hand

http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=542731532
?　chinese version
('A`)　japanese version

文字化けした　orz

I swear gamba osaka will become a consecutive conquerors.
but they look like need more strength in the even ball
and the defensive discipline.

I'm fanatic of urawa reds.last year their football was
crappy and gloomy.but this year the new supervisor makes their
football more brisk and fun.I hope to see they play in ACL again.

kashima vs shanghai
http://www.atdhe.net/live-tv-5199.html

Pohang vs Kawasaki
http://www.atdhe.net/live-tv-5200.html

Tianjin vs Central Coast
http://www.atdhe.net/live-tv-5202.html

Singapore vs Suwon
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=33368&part=sports
or http://www.justin.tv/urinara_nida
or http://www.justin.tv/chon_nida

>>251 -253
yes i can see the face~~
i am just come back from stadium,we play a draw game with CCM....

川崎強くないな

>>256 i agree with u
gamba is so strong....

>>259 maybe...we must win puhang....

The Reds probably is as strong as Gamba. But we have to wait them to be back in the next year.

>>262 haha,i bought a shirt of japanese national team,NO.4 TULIO
does he from urawa?

how did your team peform today?

>>258
It's good. We can talk smoothly here .
Today it's too late , and let's meet again . （＾皿＾）ﾉｼ

Yes, he is. He must be surprised and pleased to hear that!
Many quality players belong to the Reds though the Reds fail to get entry into this 2009 ACL. eg. Japan international Tatsuya Tanaka, Yuki Abe, Naoyasu Takahara (transfered from Freiburg in Germany), Keita Suzuki etc

Watching ACL, I think Chinese seem to play better football than most of Koreans but Koreans look a bit stronger for now cause they are very tough.

>>264 not very good...we are fail to win CCM at home....
>>265 that is ok,i am tired today...sleep later
>>266 haha,i hope someone tell him to make he surprise~~and i know ABE and TAKAHARA,especially the latter one,usually use him in winning eleven,haha
>>267 koreans have great stamina...

>>268
Tianjin has a so cool stadium isn't it? i envy you,
because my town has no football stadium. (but baseball stadium is a lot...)

>>269 yes,we have the best stadium in china....
haha,baseball is the most popular sport in japan~
and my city have a baseball stadium either,called Dodge baseball field,built by the help of americans

>>268
i misread “koreans have great saitama”

>>270
yeah, i think good stadium helps to make good atmosphere.
anyway, it's happy thing to be able to see ACL on live. good night!

>>271
me too

>>泰fan
nice game against CCM today.
so your team's name in Chinese = Tian1 Jin1 Tai4 Da2 ?
and TEDA is just the English abbreviation for the development zone?
I was confused because 我以為"泰達" = "TaiDa" not "TeDa"
Why didn't they just make the Chinese name "TeDa" also?
I suppose it's easy to get mixed up with "特大"...hahaha

Which club is the best team in west Asia?
I'm not light for the west asian's club,,,,,

Al-Ittihad

>>276
Thanks!

>>274 your prononciation is standard,so u can speak chinese?
TEDA is tianjin economy development area....~~
if our name is taida,no meaning in chinese...
TEDA in english prononciation is like taida...so...
特大...just funny~~

Englis???

>>278
hmm..I think most native English speakers (like myself) would see TEDA and pronounce it "tea-duh"
but is it supposed to be like "tay-da"? or "teh-da"
maybe Tianjin should acquire a bunch of tall and/or fat players and rename themselves 特大 lol
(I took Chinese in college)

丸大ハム aka Round'nFat'nBigHam

ACL is exciting.

>>279
he just was not able to write all for the limit of the number of characters.

>>280 u are native english speaker?where are u from?
in my opinion,teda,letter e prononce eh
if tea-duh ,that will be teeda,i think
haha, tall and/or fat players are not good idea,that is not cool~

Kas Aunts

>>284
I'm from the U.S. (美國日裔)
In the fall I'm moving to Japan - hopefully I can catch ACL action live.
The final is at Tokyo National Stadium, I believe.

日本語で話しよーぜ
う〜んち

>>287
If you want to discuss about AFC in japanese,
I suppose you are better to go to other sled

>>288
釣りだろ。スルーでおｋ
Please ignore dumbsh*t 2ch trolls.

>>289 was in reference to >>287

sledか、threadだとI thought

>>297
Oh! It's my mistake.
Thank you for pointing out.
I'm not good at Engish, but I'd wanted to join in.......

>>286
have you ever watched J-league game?
do you have any club which you support?

I'm not japanese,but I like J-league.
I watched albirex vs antlers.
especially Yano(the right wing) was overwhelming.

>>286 oh,so ga...so u can speak chinese japanese and english? awesome..
and i have the same question as 293,which is your favourate club?
>>294 i like j-league,too.where are u from?

>>294
yeah he's good. he was selected to national team yesterday.

>>295
to 泰fan

Have u ever been to an away game in CSL.

>>297 never....i am a university student,learn in wuhan,but wuhan's stadium is too bad...and too far away from my university...
and wuhan club quit CSL last year...
other place...i do not have chance to watch...i am preparing to study abroad,maybe i can go Aus to watch ACL away game,haha

Ahn Jung-Hwan will go CSL.

>>298
come to japan! ^^

>>299 explosive news...where did u saw the news?...i do not know..

>>301
i saw korean news.
he will play at 大連,

>>293
>>295
I've only been to 1 match, about 6 or 7 years ago - Vegalta vs Reysol in Sendai, I believe?
This was back when Vegalta was in J1, and I think they had Tomoyuki Zaizen?
I bought my ticket at the stadium so they only had away seats left - I remember the Reysol supporters giving "the finger" during the Vegalta lineup introduction. lol

I'll be living in Tokyo, so I'm trying to pick a team to support. Frontale's attacking style is tempting...

>>302 i searched in chinese websites recently,but i see nothing,maybe slower than korean...
but...it is a shock news...must be headline of newspapers...

continued from >>303

>>297
This was the incident with Li Weifeng, right?
In Japan he has the unfortunate reputation of being unsportsmanlike and "dirty"...
I think it has to do with last year's EAFF friendly tournament when he grabbed Keita Suzuki by the neck. haha

By the way, what is your field of study (專業)?

ahngoaaaaaaaaa━━━━━━━━━ξ*｀∀´>━━━━━━━━l!!!!!

>>303 so u are supporing kawasaki?haha，we are opponent~~
and i am curious where are u from..?
>>305 i guess u ask me,right? i know that incident,i used that photo to be my head picture in our forum...
and my field of study is International Trade...

Ahn jung hwan is good player
Chinese can enjoy his goal
Please upload his goal in C-league on You tube

>>308 all right,he is a good player...so u are from korea?
can u view our website similar as youtube,there are many video clips..

>>303
yes, Zaizen was in Vegalta at that time, and he belongs to Montedio Yamagata(J1) now.
Raysol supporters are famous for bizarre and fanatic. they are so funny.

you may be able to pick a team easily, because there are many J1&J2 club in Tokyo, Kanto area.

>>304
http://sports.media.daum.net/nms/soccer/news/general/view.do?cate=23758&type=&newsid=1153770&cp=SpoChosun

please translate to chinese.

>>304
Why shock? It's good news, isn't it?
I hoped Ahn will play in J-league again...

>>309
ＮＯ!ＮＯ！I'm not korean
He have many funny episode
I love his play and character

>>312 yes,it is a good news,i feel shock because i have not heard him for a long time...
dalian is so weak now,so they need him,and we tianjin will against dalian in CSL opening match...

せっかく2ちゃんに来てくれた純朴な天津のファンをあまり騙すようなことするなよ

Ahn Jung-Hwan is known as a funny and strange player to the football fan in Japan.
He was a big-time player in old times.
However, he is a player of third-rate now.

>>314
Please beat up Ann by all means.

>>314
thank you. I understand.
I want to see him in ACL next year, but I hope tianjin will win the game, 加油！

He was a major player until several years ago.
However, he is a third-rate player now.

>>314
i didn't know that dalian become weak now.
it's a little surprising cause i have a strong image to them.
their old name is " Dalian Wonder", right?

>>315
ID:kKT2mO8t0　
　 　~~~

KTこいつ~~~!!!
お前のうわごとや誰も信じない
暇ならば眠りやスッポン~~~~~

>>315 funny and strange...i know now...
>>316
>>317 ok,i believe our fighters will win the game..
>>318 i do not know his situation now...but i will pay attention...

>>314

> we tianjin will against dalian in CSL opening match...

I'm envious of you...I wanna see his play in J-League Again

>>319 i know u have a strong image to them,because they were beaten japanese team several years ago...
but now,it's different....they are try their best to avoid play in C2 league last year.....
their oldest name is Dalian Wanda,latter is Dalian Shide,last year Dalian Haichang....

>>322 hmm..u are his super fans...
u can saw his match on internet...

>>324
Thank you ! I will see the match on internet
I hope your team's victory and Ahn's debut Goal
Tianjin 4-1 Dalian ! hahaha

>>325 that's ok~victory is the most important~
i must sleep ,see u next time~

>>326
g'night.

Will The stadium which The ACL final held on change every year?
Or will we be able to watch the final on Tokyo national stadium for a while?

it seems not to be decided yet.

>>307
haha, i haven't decided for sure - but we'll see.
for the record, i'm from 旧金山湾区. If you visit my area we can go see the MLS club San Jose Earthquakes.
what professional field do you hope to pursue?

>>330 that is ok,if i have chance to san fracisco,i will meet u~
but,are u in japan now?
i want to go abroad to further study,but i have not decided the professional field..
and where to go...maybe us maybe canada or AUS...

Hi everyone I'm Korean , Suwon Bluewings supporter.
My Japanese friend introduce this site to me.
I know almost J-league supporters support their team very pationatly.
And i have seen that they support everytime altough their team was reached
goal. They are not feel sorry? stop supporting for a while?

>>332 can u say something about li weifeng....?

ξﾉﾉλﾐ
ξ*｀∀´>
Ahn Jung Hwan

>>332
Welcome to this thread

>>334 dalian club give ahn a benz & one room in 5 star hotel...

>>332
I also feel strange that supporters sings while their team gets goal.
But such case is unusual

I suppose that goal did'nt have any worth
So, they could not please and decided to contineu to support

>>336
BENZ and One room in 5 STAR hotel!!??
He must score many goals for Dalian...hahaha

>>338 who knows....i think it's too high for a player almost retired...

It is bad investment.
He is not what he was beside pride

○ except
× beside

sorry

>>332
true- sometimes i feel that japanese supporter tend to rely on chant.
personally speaking, i long for more spontaneous atmosphere like england premier league.
but it maybe a kind of japanese supporting culture (like a hitting march at baseball game?)
i give credit to the support of URAWA reds. the guys are really frenzy.

buy the way, is it true that Suwon is the most popular club in K-league?

>>332
Firstly, there are many Japanese supporters stop singing when their team
allowed a goal. It's because of the emotion of grief, shock, bewilderment, upset etc.
All in all, we think "minus" feelings caused us to cease supporting.

So, some supporters go on singing to show the team, the opponent, other fans or
themselves that "No harm was done by that goal", "Let's keep on and we will win
at last", "Hey guys keep calm and concentrate on this game", "It's time to encourage
our players" or like that.

>>342
I like non-stop chanting "hardcore suppoters". IMO, spontaneous atmosphere
should be directed by "fans" who are sitting in the main/back stand.

>>340 i agree with u....

siokan

tianjin teda 4-1 dalian shide.....

>>1
OK.I understand your intention. I also want to interact with foreign people.But,to sorry,I can not use English.

congratulation!!!!
they'd lucky for missing a genius Ahn.

if you'd seen him, you have to scream
"Ahngoooooooooooooooooal"

>>348 ahn sit on the bench all the match....
although i want to watch ahn's performance...

Li Weifeng is key player, in SUWON BLUEWINGS.

He is very popular in Suwon.
Thanks to him, many Chinese come to Suwon's Stadium.

Ann Jung-Hwan is a legend.
Chinese is very happy.

expect MD3
ulsan 0-1 beijing
nagoya 2-1 newcastle

g.osaka 2-0 sriwijaya
shandong 1-1 Seoul

shanghai 0-1 suwon
SAF 0-1 kashima

CCM 1-1 kawasaki
pohang 0-0 tianjin

>>350 li weifeng is a good player,before he join suwon,tianjin have the chance to buy him...
>>351 happy or not,judge by ahn's goal...
>>352 haha,too less goals~~

>>353
One goal of Ann equals five goals of a usual player.

>>354 u must be a great fan of ahn....excuse me,are u female or male?

>>355
Everyone of Ann's fan is only 17 year old School girl.

おいｗｗｗｗ

run away, Ann Jung-Hwan.
groupies made up of school-girl-uniform-men are coming

>>356 17 year old school girl usually on this bbs??....
by the way...high school girl dai suki~~

too bad.Japanese police checking your res...bye bye

tianjin guy, be careful ! hahaha

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haha,just joking~ don't be serious~

My mind is like 17 year old.
Why is Ahn pushed as so great pleyer on this BBS?
He maybe a good player........

Ahn is God. God is Ahn.
This is the reason.

Ahn breath you.....

When the Ahn goal is seen, you are a victor of the life.

>>364 maybe,but let us watch his match,we don't know his status now..
>>365
366 OTZ....

Let's surf on China....

http://wiredvision.jp/news/200903/2009032619.html

>>368 i know that,but don't forget we can use proxy server...

keep

ブルースリーみたいの出てきたぞ

>>371 in english pls....

a match between South Korea and North Korea was playing then.
so, maybe >>371 means
"a player looks like Bruce Lee come in the game"

>>373 and...who is that player...like bruce lee....

ahn say ahan ahan in love game？
If I get to know I dont care to die

the 3rd game is next week.

had better ignore 375

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CSL RESULT
TIANJIN 2:0 CHONGQING
BEIJING 1:1 JIANGSU
SHANGHAI 4:1 SHANDONG....

TIANJIN 2:0 CHONGQING

congrat (^-^

in my image,Shandong was one of the strongest team in asia.

>>381
Why do you think so?
What is the strong point of Shandong prepared with others?

J md4 result (pts.)
kasima(9) 2-1 kyoto(6)
g.osaka(7) 2-2 hirosima(4)
kawasaki(5) 3-1 nagoya(7)

>>380 thank u~~(^-^ )

>>381 their status is not good now...

>>383 kawasaki 3-1 nagoya.... kawasaki tsuyoi ne ...

kawasaki is in rebuilding sequence now.
few month after, they're more strong,I think.

.

4/7
---Group E---
蔚山現代(Ulsan Hyundai)<0> vs 北京国安(Beijing Guoan)<4>
名古屋グランパス(Nagoya Grampus)<4> vs ニューカッスル・ジェッツ(Newcastle Jets)<3>
---Group G---
上海申花(Shanghai Shenhua)<3> vs 水原三星(Suwon Samsung)<6>
アームド・フォーシーズ(Armed Forces)<0> vs 鹿島アントラーズ(Kashima Antlers)<3>

4/8
---Group F---
ガンバ大阪(Gamba Osaka)<6> vs スリウィジャヤ(Sriwijaya)<0>
山東魯能(Shandong Luneng)<3> vs FCソウル(FC Seoul)<3>
---Group H---
セントラルコースト・マリナーズ(Central Coast Mariners)<2> vs 川崎フロンターレ(Kawasaki Frontale)<4>
浦項スティーラース(Pohang Steelers)<2> vs 天津泰達(Tianjin TEDA)<1>

<>:Points

Today(JST)
1900 Nagoya Grampus vs Newcastle Jets
1900 Ulsan vs Beijing Guoan
2030 Saba Battery vs Pakhtakor
2030 Singapore Armed Forces vs Kashima Antlers
2100 Shanghai Shenhua vs Suwon Bluewings
2400 AL Jazeera vs Al Ittihad Jeddah
2500 Umm Salal vs Esteghal
2630 Al Hilal vs Al Ahli Dubai

Korea +-0
China -1
Australian East +1

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gamba osaka played a good game....
and we fail to get 3 points from pohang...

>>390
I feel sad to hear that.
But I know C-league teams are very strong in their home game,
and 天津 still have two more home games.
I believe 天津 can pass groupe league.

天津加油！(＾-＾

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tianjin ,do your best.

Don't think; feel. It's like a finger pointing away to the moon.
Don't concentrate on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory.

>>391 thank u~ u r right,shanghai and shandong win in home game,and tianjin beijing lose in away game
we have two home game,also have chance.i will go to the stadium in next home game~
>>392
>>395 thank you~we will...


i hope we can qualify,and have a game with gamba osaka

yamagata is on top in j-league.
yamagata is promoted to J1 in 2009.
this is incidents.

>>398 yamagata.....similar as hoffenheim...right?

>>399
Yes , we can.

obama

No.

yamagata is Club of Yamagata Citizens.

hoffenheim is Club of hoffenheim Citizens　too,
but ｔｈｅｙ have a lot of money and investmenting there Infrastructure.By Millionaire.

Yamagata has no Millionaire Patron.
and they hadn't Gorgeous clubhouse,stadium,trainingfield.
So Yamagata is not similar as hoffenheim.

>>402 u r right...i hope yamagata have a good result...

age

【J1】前半
　 　 　 　点　　 01　 02　 03　 04　 05 　 06 -07 -08 -09 -10 -11 -12 -13 -14 -15 $10 -16 -17
�@鹿島　12　○浦●新○広○京○瓦 -h鞠 a山 h神 a千 .　 _ h清 a柏 a脚 h磐 a分 a鯱 a川 h宮
�A脚大　10　○千○磐●京△広●宮 ○山 a神 h瓦 a分 .　 _ h柏 a浦 h鹿 h新 a鞠 a川 a鯱 h清　脚=gamba osaka
�B山形　10　○磐△鯱●瓦○千○分 ●脚 h鹿 a宮 h柏 a神 h新 a広 h京 a清 h川 .　_ h浦 a鞠
-----next year ACL-----
�C新潟　10　○瓦○鹿△分○鞠●京 -h広 a宮 h千 a浦 h磐 a山 h神 h清 a脚 h鯱 .　 _ a柏 h川
�D浦和　10　●鹿○瓦△磐○分○鯱 -h京 a千 a清 h新 a柏 h川 h脚 a宮 a鞠 h神 .　 _ a山 h広
�E大宮　09　△清○広△神△柏○脚 -a川 h新 h山 a瓦 h分 a磐 a鯱 h浦 h京 a千 .　 _ h鞠 a鹿
�F京都　09　○神●分○脚●鹿○新 -a浦 h磐 a川 h鯱 h鞠 a瓦 h千 a山 a宮 h広 .　 _ a清 h柏
�G清水　08　△宮△鞠●鯱○神○川 -a磐 h柏 h浦 a広 h千 a鹿 h分 a新 h山 a瓦 .　 _ h京 a脚
�H広島　07　○鞠●宮●鹿△脚○柏 -a新 h川 a鯱 h清 h瓦 a千 h山 a分 h神 a京 .　 _ h磐 a浦
�I名鯱　07　○分△山○清●川●浦 -a柏 h鞠 h広 a京 .　 _ a神 h宮 a磐 h千 a新 h鹿 h脚 a瓦　鯱=nagoya grampus
�J瓦東　06　●新●浦○山○磐●鹿 -h千 a分 a脚 h宮 a広 h京 a鞠 h川 a柏 h清 .　 _ a神 h鯱　瓦=fc tokyo
�K横鞠　05　●広△清△柏●新○神 -a鹿 a鯱 h磐 h川 a京 a分 h瓦 a千 h浦 h脚 .　 _ a宮 h山　鞠=yokohama marinos
�L川崎　05　△柏●神△千○鯱●清 -h宮 a広 h京 a鞠 .　 _ a浦 h磐 a瓦 h分 a山 h脚 h鹿 a新
�M大分　04　●鯱○京△新●浦●山 -a神 h瓦 a柏 h脚 a宮 h鞠 a清 h広 a川 h鹿 .　 _ h千 a磐
�N木白　04　△川△千△鞠△宮●広 -h鯱 a清 h分 a山 h浦 a脚 h鹿 a神 h瓦 a磐 .　 _ h新 a京　柏=kashiwa reysol
-----next year J2-----
�O神戸　04　●京○川△宮●清●鞠 -h分 h脚 a鹿 a磐 h山 h鯱 a新 h柏 a広 a浦 .　 _ h瓦 a千
�P千葉　03　●脚△柏△川●山△磐 -a瓦 h浦 a新 h鹿 a清 h広 a京 h鞠 a鯱 h宮 .　 _ a分 h神
�Q磐田　02　●山●脚△浦●瓦△千 -h清 a京 a鞠 h神 a新 h宮 a川 h鯱 a鹿 h柏 .　 _ a広 h分

HARD TO READ...BUT THANK U~

>>406
脚大＝Gamba Osaka
名鯱＝名古屋　Grampus
瓦東＝FC東京Gus
横鞠＝横浜　F-Marinos
木白＝柏　Reysol

文字化けしてるのかも
漢字なら読めるかと思ったが記号はわからない可能性あるよね

it is, hard to see and read, even for Japanese.

and...the white circle is win,black is lose,and triangle is draw?
am i right?
just like we2009...but lose is cross there....

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FT nagoya 2-1 kashiwa

gamba 2-1 yamagata
nagoya 2-1 kashiwa

15:00JST
kashima - yokohamaFM

16:00JST
kawasaki - oomiya

>>410
yes,you're right.

kanji may hard for foreign people to read.

Hum... >>405 list is very easy to see for Japanese, especially 2ch people.
●○△ is used by only Japanese? I didn't know that...

match day 6
gamba 2-1 yamagata
nagoya 2-1 kashiwa
kashima 0-0 yokohamaFM
kawasaki 3-1 oomiya

sunday
(4pt) kobe - ooita (4pt)
(2pt) iwata - shimizu (8pt)

1. kashima 13pt *
2. urawa 13pt
3. niigata 11pt
4. gamba 10pt *
5. yamagata 10pt
6. nagoya 10pt *
7. oomiya 9pt
8. kyoto 9pt
9. hiroshima 8pt
10. kawasaki 8pt *

*=ACLteam

405は目がちらちらするぜw

>>416
This list is "Hoshitorihyo"(literal translation: star take table)
shows the wins and losses of each sumo wrestler with white and black dots
sumo hoshitorihyo is on records from Edo period.
Hoshitorihyo is used for other sports because very simple notation.
●=lose ○=win △=draw

omg
I forgot ACL match tonight.

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>>420 faint....

our team played a draw game with pohang steelers in home game...
and...kashima played a good game.....

>>422
内弁慶kasima 不安
天津△　It is very regrettable.
北京home●　It was surprised.
山東　good job

「内弁慶」は日本の諺だから通じないんじゃないかな

内弁慶
外強中乾
A lion at home, a mouse abroad

>>423 kashima is not bad....why they are 内弁慶?
we played a regrettable game...have some chance but can't handle it..
beijing...their key player injured for 3 months...

>>424 haha,i know who is 弁慶,but this is the 1st time heard of 内弁慶...

内　means "inside" or "home".
弁慶 is very strong monk, you know.

内弁慶 means ....
strong at his home,but weak at out of his home.

at sports sean,
strong at his homegame,but weak at awaygame.

but they use to kashima is.......
strong for j-league club,but weak for foreign club.

oh little mistake.

>>426

> 内弁慶 means ....
> strong at his home,but weak at out of his home.

内弁慶 means ....
strong at his home like 弁慶,but weak at out of his home.

>>426 haha,i know 弁慶 in the game "kenji"~
but,why kashima strong at home and weak out? is there any reason?

I think Kashima had got lots of domesitic titles (J league, EmperaCup, NabisukoCup...).
And they had got many chances trying to ACL too.

But far from getting the ACL, they could't arrive at ACL Final tournament.
So that's why almost of J league fans have impressed that Kashima is strong at home and weak out.

Added to that, Gamba and Urawa got ACL.
These teams had't been strong at the early days of Jleague.
In recently, They could have been success satisfactorily.

The other side, Kashima had been one of Jleague leader teams.
They still have been strong domestic, but couldn't been remarkably succcess abroad.

Then Japanese presses are not paying attention Jleague so much.
But they are more interested in the succcess on ACL and have lot's of report.

The differences may make the impression "Kashima is 内弁慶" more strongly....

>>429
>>430 thanks for your answer.....i see now...
hmmm....can u describe chinese football in your opinion..?i am curious...

>>431
It's difficult for me to describe Chinese Football.
Because I'm not well informed about Chinese teams and Players of the league.

But I impress Chinese Football have huge potential.
And it might be one of Bigleagues in World, chinese players might play an active all over the world in future.

The reason of that, Chinese market is the biggest.
It means there is possibility many talents excavated,
World major football league (Premier,Spain,and others) can't ignore chinese market. FIFA too.
Recently Football is coloring as money game strongly.
Having More source of money connect with team performance and getting circulation calling in more profit.

For example Tommasi transferd, increasing famous players might give good effects for chinese Football.

It's important that China gets appropriately balance(Free and Control).
Great Football has both of creativity and systematic.
It has same parts with Social.
I hope chinese Football will be succcess.

It appears to me that Chinese football has generally gone in the wrong direction in recent years.
There is plenty of capital invested in domestic clubs to pay well-known Chinese veterans and foreign players.
However, seemingly little is devoted for training coaches and scouts, especially at the youth levels.
In addition, Chinese football generally suffers from a poor image overseas.
In Japan, both the PRC national team and CSL clubs have a reputation for poor sportsmanship and violent conduct, both by players and by fans.
The rough treatment of the Japan national team at the 2004 Asian Cup in China, as well as the last meeting between Japan and China (February 2008) were highly publicized in Japan.

I am not saying that the ill reputation of Chinese football abroad is entirely justified.
I agree with the poster above that there is massive future potential for football in China.
However, it is important to understand fundamental issues and perceptions from the China FA's perspective.

Englis って何かエロいな

グリスを注すか？
ヴァセリンがいいそうだぞ。

>>432 yes,u r right.especially the last 4 sentences.china have the great market,but do not have order.
in 1990-1999 many parents send their children to football school,because it can earn lot of money to be a football player
but now,all the chinese football players registed in CFA less than OSAKA city.....my mood is complicateed,hard to describe in english
maybe it is the problem in social developing,maybe fault of our government,i do not know.
in chinese,we call this 急功近利(ji gong jin li),i don't know how to translate it,maybe someone know chinese can help me
chinese social system have some problem,and our sport system not as the same as others.china use the money of goverment to training the players
the only target is the champion of olympic games.except football and basketball,they are professional,formly.in fect it also controlled by government
i really hate it,but i can do nothing....无力...


>>433 yes,our direction is wrong.i agree with u.in my mind,we must have high level coach in youth level,as u say.but clubs not....
asians not fit for "body football",but "technical football",but the leader of CFA always have old thought,training like old hungary and soviet union....body first...

the violent conduct of chinese football...i can not help it...but i will never join them.,..
in china,always have someone keep ideology thought,especailly for japan...u know...the history...
many chinese hate japan,not really hate,it is to fan up by some person... of course,there are many people do not hate japan,like me.i know japan's culture and history,and like the product of japan
china still a developing country,and will keep it in a long time.AND,do not forget,our government is red..haha...so it is hard to change...

over all,please understand my country.maybe have the wrong social system,but i think,it will be better someday

wake wakaran

>>436
I'm >>433 but...
I believe 急功近利 would mean in Japanese like....目先の利益に眩む。。。みたいな？
（要するに９０年代にサッカーブームが起きて、多くの親は子供をプロ選手に育てようとサッカーアカデミーに子供を送った、だが現在は衰退している）

With regard to your response to my post, I think many athletes have proven that East Asians can excel in terms of physical strength and speed.
I do know many Chinese people from the mainland, and my experience with people when I visited China was very positive.
If you visit Japan in the future, make sure to check out a J.League game. I'm sure you will be warmly received by the local fans.

>AND,do not forget,our government is red..haha...so it is hard to change...

i'm really worry the red arrest you.... haha

>>438
I see. Thank you.
I heard many Chinese children went to Brasil or England, and other countries in 80s and 90s.
That's for being Pro football players.
But most of them would not be success.

For CFA want good result too hasty, they are not able to take "continuous bringing up of children" ?
There are many cases of children growth curve.
One grows Quickly in childfood, another one may start to grow as twenty.

I know China had been strongly top down social structure.
So coaches may persist in specific way.
But I think lots of suited way are needed to grow variety of each children.

It may be difficult to produce "genuine Football diamond" with uniform growth way.
(Surely I know China had many success on other sports with goverment way)
And I think it is needed to be care that improvement shouldn't be vacillating this way and that.
Then it is important to have long-term vision about evaluating players.
Same thing is said for Japanese Football too.

I am a pen

>>441
Oh! News repoter coming!

>>428 hmmm...your translate is good,almost that mean....
u r right,we east asians have our advantages on the side of body
u have been to china,that is good,can i know where did u go?i think many chinese people is good for japanese,like me
i am prepare to study in AUS,so i have chance to japan,i am surely to watch j-league,to feel the atmosphere

>>439 haha,don't worry,although our government is red,but not as similar as north korea's,so not too bad

>>440 yes,there are many children went brasil to play football,and most of them are retired.
best of them,for example,li wefeng in suwon bluewings,li tie in everton several years ago,zhang xiaorui in Aachen，Germany

to cultivate a football player need scientist system and mind.but the leader in china do not have it.
many chairman of CFA never played football,they are politician.so they do not know the rule of football
i know JFA have the plan 100 years,i think maybe it is the right way,we will see the rusult

練習なんて不必要
天津人は天津甘栗と天津飯さえ食べれば勇気百倍実力百倍なはず

>>>444 ORZ.....

天津飯
http://www.1dragonball.com/images/tensan.JPG
http://ibukurogu.cocolog-nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/pict3468_3.jpg
http://userdisk.webry.biglobe.ne.jp/000/587/34/N000/000/000/119466042102416423990.jpg

天津には天津飯という料理はない

>>447
kidding me？

天津飯 (tenshinhan in Japanese) is an example of Japanese Chinese cuisine - that is, a Chinese style dish invented in Japan.
Examples of dishes like 天津飯 are common around the world; there are many American Chinese dishes, such as "General Tso's Chicken" 左宗棠雞.
I suppose an example of American Japanese food is the "California roll".

Tamada 玉田圭司　is injured. Ta ma de 他媽的

実はラーメンも日本で生まれた日本料理

>>447
>>449 u r right....although i really want to taste 天津飯.......

>>450 tamada is injured?bad news for his supporters....
and...u know his name is similar as 他媽的....haha~i am curious whether himself know it or not.....

>>451 i love japanese ramen!!!hahaha

泰fanたん来てるのか
日本語解るの？

中国人の名前は英語読みだと日本人には解りづらい
漢字で書いてくれた方がたぶん解ると思うよ
漢字の日本語読みで普通は呼ぶから

>>451
スレ違い
無駄な論争起こしたいの？
あと英語で書け

Return to an original topic.
Do you want to cause a useless controversy?
Write in English.

>>454 i can use translate software....but i don't know your mean clearly....can u type it again in english?

>>455 that is all right....

日本語でも気にせず書く俺

5節
天津1-0川崎
浦項0-1CCM

6節
川崎1-1浦項
CCM0-1天津

H組
1位川崎　11点
2位天津　8点
3位浦項　7点
4位CCM　5点

(｀･ω･´)b

many japanese couldn't understand chinese name written by alphabets in english.
because we usually call chinese people using "漢字".
and, we read "漢字" with japanese style. not chinese style.

ex.) 胡錦涛　→　こきんとう（ko-ki-n-to-u)

so, you might use "漢字" if you write chinese name.

>>457 i hope so....thank u....

>>458 i see...like the pronouciation in sengoku musou...haha,but i must translate chinese simplified to traditional first...
li weifeng is 李イ峰と in suwon bluewings
zhang xiaorui is 張効瑞と was is archen ,germany
li tie is 李鉄 was in everton
dong fangzhuo is 董方卓 was in man utd

that is better now?

>>459
Hi, I've gone to China for ACL match two years ago. Good peoples and good foods!

How do you think about C-league referees and judgement ?
Is there a distinctive feature ?

I think contemporary progress of J-league clubs in ACL is related to discussions of referees.
Would you talk about C-league's issues about it ?

>>459
董方卓はそろそろ呂布に殺される頃だなｗ

>>460
wentな

>>460 as u know,china is a large country,different place have differrent culture....so...can i know where did u go 2 years ago?
the judgement in football match is the big problem in worldwide,not only in china.many years ago,some clubs bribe the referee,but now,better.
we have a better system to control the referee touch with clubs. now,our referee as same as the other countries'

in my opinion,contemporary progress of J-league because of the scientific management and system.of course the money and referee are the advantages
i think the the most important difference between chinese and japanese club is the management.not others。


>>461 董方卓 is not 董卓.......
and 呂布 was killed by...刘备(liu bi) and 曹操....
oh...no 星彩 in history....

NO Politism.

>>459
that's nice!!!!

oh....
if some chinese word can not display on your mobile phone...please use N-02A of DOCOMO's
haha,it can display all the 漢字.... and can type chinese simplified by pinyin.....(｀･ω･´)b

>>463
Many of Japanese football fans think that Chinese and Korean teams are like very hard ,sometimes violent, play in thier Home games.
Before the ACL renews to present format, Japanese clubs,Yokohama Gamba and more, sometimes suffer from hard body contacts from Chinese and Korean teams.
We think this is the origin that Japanese club's failure in ACL.
And discussed this probrem.

Now we have a cosensus that don't mind thier rough play,and keeps our fair plays.
Then Japanese teams consentrate the match.
That the reason to 2007 and 2008 ACL title WITH fairplay award. Urawa and Gamba Osaka.

You know Japanese likes technichal fantasy fottball.
Japanese club's success in ACL requires the fair play condition.
This concept is ont only ACL, but J-league same.
These discussions are originate J-league referee forum in 2ch.

>>466
I visited 上海 only 2days, only 5 meals. w

泰fan.......you are familiar about Japanese football "too much".....
Almost all chinese don't know "JFA 100 years plan".....
Are you really chinese?

>>467 in my opinion,that because the different way of football. japan want to play technical football,koreans more insist on stamina and body
chinese team is more special,in their mind,play football with japanese,is same to start a war with japan,so they must fight....
i think u can understand my mean....
on the other hand,it is the different football style.for example,league in england and league in spain,one for body and spirit,the other for technical and mind
heavy body crush do not mean fouls,maybe different understanding of football

by the way,i like technical football,haha,my favourate europe club is MILAN~


>>466 that is a short trip,u r 応援団 of your club,right?hope u can visit tianjin~
ahh..excuse me ...which team do u support?



>>469 absolutely chinese....u can test me in any ways....haha
JFA 100 years plan is famous several years ago,i remember this.Kawabuchi Saburo create it,right?chairman of JFA
and....the website of JFA have something about JFA 100 years plan...

in fact,in tianjin teda official forum,there are another several people know japanese football more than me...
i am just a football fan,and know japan very much( i think...)

日本語でレス。
>299 名前：泰fan[] 投稿日：2009/04/27(月) 02:20:57 ID:HahAjty70
>>>274 このようなは私達がただ
>経験だけが不十分なのではありませんて、日本のチームの更に多くの交流
>CSLととても苦難に満ちている
>勝つことであることができることを望みます

泰fan

今年の2月、韓国のクラブは日本で練習試合していました。
蔚山(vsG大阪、vs浦和)

浦和vs蔚山　Training Match
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBWKnkkvGrI
浦和vs浦項　Training Match
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lEZOxE-q6g

天津が経験を積むことを望むのなら、訪日して練習試合をするのも一つの方法だと考えます。

>>471 i hope teda club can try it.training match in japan is a good idea.
our team was training in spain and korea for many times,maybe next time is japan

失礼かもしれないけど中国の少林足球と交流すると
日本人選手が大量に大怪我の可能性が高いので
日本人は好ま無いです

>>473 please pay more attention on chinese football,thanks......

lol

What's wrong with being naked?

>>470
>>470
That's right!
In Japan many clubs training for technical style.
But rough or violent play spoils it manytime.
Few years ago, J-league referee's judgements had not distinguished fair heavy body crushes from unfair rough plays.
All contact plays were foul.....almost all plays were broken by whistle.
And many teams couldn't show thier technichal style.

(But Kashima Antlers is not.
They are well trained for physical (body-stamina) football or restart football.
They adjusted such environment.
This is the reason why Kashima's Lion-Mouse matter. I think.)

Then fans reqest a non-stop football to deal with heavy tackles.
Through J-league clubs sucessed latest two years in ACL. That is I mean >>460

After long discussions we discovered that Fairplay spirit brings good perfomance.

Once you told us 天津泰達(tianjin teda) likes more technical style differ from other clubs.
So I'm interested in your club and C-league's referee style.



..and, war matter is not war matter, i think, it is about information matter nowadays..
football is different, you know, me too

i hope to visit tianjin next year with my club urawa reds.

on the topic of chinese football - this is a nice story.

http://www.plus-blog.sportsnavi.com/asa8043/article/512

>>477 some chinese media said NAGOYA GRAMPUS's style is different from other three team....seems not right..
about kashima, i agree with u,they are good team,but their body style more effective in japan,with the pure body style like korean team,they will lose..
shanghai also a technical team,so they win shanghai.if they play with shandong...hard to win,shandong's player are all strong...

all fans want to watch a technical match,they are care the process more,but the club care the result only.
this is why some chinese team have the body style...

tianjin have the traditions on football,we are the king in 1980s chinese football league
from then,we are technical style.our coach,左樹生，is the member of that tianjin champion team

i have good feeling to japan,believe most of japanese do not have hostility to china,like u XD

in our mind,urawa reds is one of the strongest team in japan,our forum have an ID name is:浦和红钻（赤いドリル）
he is your teams fans,haha and i mentioned i have a shirt of TULIO

so,if have chance,welcome to Tianjin! we have the best stadium and best food~~~haha


P.S: in fact....we also do not know kawasaki frontier at first...the most famous japanese club in china are:URAWA OSAKA KASHIMA IWATA YOKOHAMA

>>479
>P.S:
浦和　2007ACLChampion　2008ACL
大阪　2006ACL 2008AClChampion
磐田　2003 2004 ACL クラブ選手権Champion
横浜　2003 2004 ACL
鹿島　2008 2002(?) ACL

磐田が海外で有名というのは本当だったのね。
It was true that Iwata was famous in foreign countries!!!

>>479
>P.S:
the most famous chinese club in japan(in me！) are
◎大連　山東
○上海　北京
△天津　長春（？？？）
×etc..
こんなとこかな。
上海は合併したよね？
上海＋上海＝上海申花？（ｗ）

>>497
Hello 泰fan

I am fan of Kawasaki Frontale and am going to visit Tianjin Teda stadium on May 5th.

First of all, The team name is not Kawasaki Frontier, but Kawasaki Frontale.

I understand Kawasaki is not well known in Great China, but the exciting match
is guaranteed. Because director,Mr. Sekizuka is very attacking minded person
and you will see many players are moving into attacking third zone changing position
to be covered.
Their football style is risky but looks fun to watch.

Kawasaki came in secound in 2006 and 2008 season at J-League.

Anyway, see you next week in Tianjin and have a nice game.

>>480 IWATA famous in china because of a tv programme. ASIAN FOOTBALL MAGAZINE
this programme popular in 10 years ago,so we know KYOTO IWATA NAGOYA,and others.....

>>481 ee...what is the mean of triangle△ and ring◎○?
shanghai had 3 teams years ago, and they were combined to 2 teams,上海申花&上海中遠
after that,上海中遠 move to 陝西，today's 陝西中新

I have a question.
All CSL team's names are "place name" + "company name"?

>>484 yes, u r right.except 深圳，they have no sponsors....
tianjin TEDA beijing GUOAN shandong LUNENG shanghai SHENHUA
all the company name.

>>485
So, Does it mean to be colored strongly in CSL
as "advertisement of company for benefit"more than as "citizen team"?

>>486 not absolutely right....the most income of club is from the sponsor.
the company buy the name of the team,same as advertisement. double win

>>487
I see. Thank you 泰fan!

＞泰fan
>>482は無視ですか？w

>>489 sorry.....i missed it .... reply now...

>>482 sorry....wrong type....watch macross frontier too much...XD

welcome to Tianjin! hope u all have a fun trip....
i know your team is attack style,my team is same...kawasaki goals most in j-league 2008,and our team goals most in c-league 2008...
i believe the two attack style team would play a fantastic game~

Kawasaki was not well known in china,but now is changed...i knew someone who sell j-league shirts...
she said she recieved many order from tianjin,for kawasaki's shirt... tianjin have many japanese,i think most of them will support u

and..残念...i can't go to the stadium to watch the match...because i gotta go back to my university,far away from tianjin...
my dad will go ,instead of me.he is an old football fan~

i will watch the match through internet or TV,cheer to double side.

>>490
泰fan. No need to feel sorry!
Always I'm looking forward to your reply.

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>>491 thanks... r u >>482?

NO, I'm >>493.
But I respect your attitude to respond politely to all responce.

NO, I'm >>493
↓
NO, I'm not >>493

Revisions....
I'm not >>482.

lol

>>494 thanks for your praise...XD most of japanese are politely,that is good quality,so i should study for them...
and...did u ever post something here?

>>498
Yes, I posted a little number.

Wow, macross frontier !
Are you a animation OTAKU ??

By the way, today is J-league match day.

Kawasaki - Kyoto
Niigata - Chiba
Omiya - Yamagata
Nagoya - Hiroshima
Kashiwa - Oita
Shimizu - Urawa
Yokohama -Iwata
Kashima - Kobe
G.Osaka - F.C.Tokyo

>>500 no...i like japan anime,but not otaku...
i know many OTAKU prefer macross frontier....Lanka Lee is MOE~~haha
i watched macross frontier gundam 00 CLANNAD AS
and watching basara & 鋼の錬金術士 now..... oh,and never end の detective conan...

>>502
I see. But you know many titles. ( ´ｰ`)σ)Д`)

Today's match result

Kawasaki 4-1 Kyoto
Niigata 2-2 Chiba
Omiya 0-3 Yamagata
Nagoya 0-0 Hiroshima
Kashiwa 2-1 Oita
Shimizu 2-2 Urawa
Yokohama 1-0 Iwata
Kashima 1-0 Kobe
G.Osaka 4-2 F.C.Tokyo

>>503 haha,i am not reach that level....like watch only,i won't care who is the CV or sth...although i like GUNPLA & KERORO...XD
i have watch the competition of OTAKU in AKIBA...
they are really OTAKU....

>>泰fan

「Kawasaki Frontale meets GUNPLA」
http://www.frontale.co.jp/diary/2009/0401.html

I am OTAKU.

>>504
sorry but, you are perfectly OTAKU, i think..

ww

Recently in Japan, definition of OTAKU has extended to eager fan.
So, almost all the user of this board are called "soccer OTAKU", and we actually think so ourselves.
According to this new definition, you are in a category of animation OTAKU.

>>507 haha,i just like to watch anime,but won't show out....never do such things like densha otoko...

>>508 ok...in this definition...i am otaku...anime & soccer & game otaku....XD

oh,forgot to mention..i usually play mario kart online...haha
but technical is weak...

>>505 that is really amazing......

>>506 haha...OTAKU for what?

泰fan....What do you think about East Asian Football?
I think they have much of "oil money" and being strong rapidly.
Iran and Saudi Arabia are already strong.
In addition that, Qatar, Iraq, Bahrain, and the others.
They are proceeding to make Brazilian football players naturalized their citizen.
And They are making their domestic league strong with oil money.
Will The rapid increase in thier influence prove a great menace to West Asian Football?

>>511 i think ...."oil money"will increase the level of WEST ASIA football....
but,not because the brazilian change the nationality.because the high level of foreigner players
u know batistuta, effenberg,and others...like j-league,zico,hulk....
this can help them to increase football level.

change nationality....not very moral...bad for developing
foreign players can play good match for 4-5 years...what should they do after these players retired?
"buy"new players? NEVER END...

OK,maybe somebody will say: they have enough money to "buy" players...
but,will these players really can risk theirs life for the honor of "motherland"
no,they will never....they come asia for money only....no loyalty in their mind....

on the other hand....a simple logic....if somebody can betray once，and there will be twice...
how can fans believe in these players?

ASIANS not weak in football,we just weak in body....and we are strong at teamwork technical thought 3T
NAKAMURA can kick MAN UTD out of champions cup by himself.....
so we have potential,all we must do is increase the level of ourselves,not the short-time effective way like them...

fapfapfapfapfap

I want to eat.

we are suppress shandong for all match...we have 15 shoots and shandong have only 6....
they only have 1 good chance....and they handle it...

shit game... but this is football....

>>489
>>490
Hello 泰fan

I am 482.
I am very sorry. I responded you late.
I am also sorry you will not be able to come to stadium on May 5th.

It seems it is hot and dry in May in Tianjin.
I am looking forward to visit modern stadium of Tianjin TEDA and see
a nice game with full of fighting spirit.

I hope you will enjoy TV watching game. See you !

Football is difficult.
The team get "God Bress of the football pitch", will get winning.
And the God is fickle occasionally......

>>517 maybe u r right....today;s match our midfielder played very well...create many golden chance...
but the forward waste them all... 85minutes shandong steal one goal....what a pity...

>>516 i just search the weather forecast in future 6 days...here is it..
5-4 32℃ / 17℃ sunny
5-5 32℃ / 18℃ sunny
5-6 32℃ / 18℃ cloudy
hope can help u a little...

my dad will go instead of me,he will told me what he saw...

hope u can enjoy this trip...good luck!

when u come back home,let us communicate here with what u see~

でぃすいずあぺん

oh~i must go to my university today...
maybe reply later...haha

age

鹿ome

This fair hair pig fellow.

congratulation tianjin

hahaha

FUCK CHINESE !!

congratulation gung-fu.
fuck off chinese dirty violence soccer.
be ASHAMED yourself!

calm down.
this is only football.

●中村憲剛選手（川崎F）
「自分のサッカー人生の中でも相手のスタッフに蹴られたのは初めてでした（中村憲剛を蹴った相手スタッフは暴力行為が認定されて退席処分を受けた）」

http://www.jsgoal.jp/news/jsgoal/00082118.html

stupid 天津 staff

Congratulation 天津 fan.
thogh I didn't watch the match. haha.

>>528
that is not football
that is kung-fu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNXTQMaLmZ4

Nakamura kicked by the staff of Tianjin

This is kung-fu kick !
Hoacyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !

haha. It's a joke...
Chinese. Please fair play !

tenshin played well.Kawasaki could't be calm. I feltboth of teams must play more faily.
refree　was　also　awful.
he could't control the game.

泰fan,please ignore the words of racism. there are some racists here.

Racism? huh!

to treat abnormal as normal, thats a sort of racism you must know.

No one will come here though the next day of the game.

正直、泰ファンはこのトピに来にくいだろ。
俺ならもう来れないな。日本のファン怒ってるって思うし、
自分のチームにガッカリしてるかもしれないし。
挑発に乗った川崎の事をどう思ってるかもわからんｗ
まあ、ラフプレイは確かにあったし、許せないが、
仮に泰ファンに怒りをぶつける人がいたらそれも違うんだろうな。
この問題、どうしよっか？放っておいたらスレごと消えるけどね。
仮に泰ファンが戻ってきても、それを機に嫌がらせする奴はいるもんな。
俺もちょっと気になったから書き込んでみた
（タブーに触れる気分ｗ）

I want 秦fan to return.
俺はもし秦fanが戻ってくるならいつでも歓迎するよ!

翻訳機で書き物をするのです
違っても了解お願いいたします
韓国のサッカーファンです
名古屋グランパス(nagoya grampus) ファンや
鹿島アントラーズの(kashima antlers) ファンいれば
メールお願いします
[email protected]
p.s ヤンググックムンファエデヘギョリュしたいですね

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>>538
こんにちは。
来訪ありがとうございます。
どこのファンですか？

秦fanに川崎のトップページを見るように薦めてやりたいな
クラブもサポも敗因の中に自らが招いた部分があることを反省している。
少なくない日本のサッカーファンも天津に対する怒りよりも川崎の振る舞いに対する失望を感じてる

多くのサッカーファンが怒りに震えるような想定外の事件が起きたわけじゃないからね
しばらくしたら帰っておいで秦fan

》538
If you can write English,please write at here.
Let's communicate

事情が事情なので日本語で書かせて貰います。

》536
グッジョブ
触れにくい話題だった。

確かに中国サッカーには言いたいことはあるけど、サッカーファンとは建設的に話し合いたいね。

泰fanは日本サッカーに好意を持ってくれてるんだから尚更ね。

return,泰fan

確かに建設的な意見は必要だ
それを考慮した上で、この意見を真剣に考えてみて欲しい
泰fanさんだけでなく他の中国人にも、ぜひ意見を聞かせて貰いたいものだ

http://hsyf610muto.seesaa.net/article/118775911.html

541 >> 水原のファンです^^
鹿島アントラーズとの競技を行って
帰国しました 541番(回)はオデ−ウィペンですか?

543 >> Sorry ..^^;;
どこのファンですか?

e....i am not leaving....the account of internet in my university had sold out....
so i must surf internet in net-bar(like internet cafe in japan)...

i am ok for the racism reply...chinese always have people have the thought like this...i can understand...
everybody will not happy when they favourate club's lose,so that is ok....
we are the same when tianjin lose in kawasaki，only impulse...
about the style of football,please try to understand others..
i know japan want technical football,and china study for europe
the real "kung-fu football" always happen in europe,not ACL
we know bosingwa,we know eduardo,we know cisse
harder than us .....

and...frankly....kawasaki did not calm down in this match,too...
try to understand each other,thank u




>>542 i will see....thank u...

>>546 afc,welcome for join our discussion~~~are u korean?

>>547
I understand it is difficult for you to talk about this happen on "Japanese website 2ch".
And I respect you to give us your opinion.
I see a large crowd gathering would make to escalate their emotion.

However I think we should not connect with Nationalism and war.
At least on stadium....
For example, Would American and Russian players be jeered on a sports stadium by Hiroshima or Nagasaki or Okinawa people with the emotion based on war?
That's answer is No. They may be booing about any plays , but not connecting with war. On stadium.

I undersand lot's of chinese have been connected with anti japan for unifing China.
and there are many people, be injured actually, can't forgive Japan.
And Sports should not be connectied with war, that may be japanese thinking style .....

It is certain that we should not have prejudice from a part of the country.
I want be care not to persist in my view.
Finally, I know there are many of thoughtful and clever chinese as "泰fan".
I appreciate your courageous reply.

要約すると
泰fanはネカフェからインターネットすることになって
この前の試合については、しょうがないみたいな感じか

>>546
welcome! afc.
こんにちは、水原ファン
鹿島vs水原戦を見ましたが、エドゥが怪我でしたね
私は彼のプレーを見られなかったことが残念でした
それから水原はKリーグ13位と、調子が悪いようですが何かあったのでしょうか？

547>> sure i'm korean // r u chinese?

550>> 嬉しいです
エドは仁川との競技(景気)時からいまだに回復ができなく私も残念です.
去年シーズンに株メンバー(best member)らが Jリーグ大宮(Jリーグ/ MATO )
京都パープル街並(Jリーグ /LEE JUNG-SOO) 上でも(EPL / CHO WON-HEE)
bursaspor (turkey / Shin - Yeong-rok) ..
そして多い選手たちが移籍しました.. グエビして迎入はイ・
サンホ(LEE SANG-HO)...リウェイポング(LEE WEIFENG)
だけでした..
リウェイポングはトエザングウロインして出場もできなかったし守備陣に多い問題とあらゆる選手たちの負傷によって競技(景気)に影響を与えるしかなかったです.

>>551
Hi, Im another one
welcome to 2ch
Do you recieve the mail from nagoya or kashima ?
If not, ask any question in here


しかし、umm...移籍か
I'm afraid of K-league Clubs become weak few years later
How do you think? not worry?

What do you think the reason why K-league ticket is not much sold?

日本語でごめんなさい＞ALL

>>551
私は浦和ファンですが、水原は主力が抜けた穴を埋めるのに苦労してるということですね
理解しました

MATOはJリーグファンの中でも評価が高いようです
今年J1に新加入した外国人選手の中で上位の評判の良さです
LEE JUNG-SOOは好調時と不調時の差が大きいようですが、京都ファンにはとても信頼されています

LEE SANG-HOは7番のFWの選手ですね
素早く動いて鹿島の守備ラインを脅かしていました
LEE WEIFENGは日本代表との試合で暴力行為を働いたので日本ではとても評判悪いですｗ
しかしvs鹿島やvs上海で良い動きをしたのを見ています
彼は上手くシュートを決めていました

>>551
水原は車監督を更迭して良い外国人監督を雇った方がいいんでは？

>>552
Almost of Korean must relate football to Nationalism.
They are conscious of "Korean race evaluated" by foreign countries so much.
They think Korean race must be excellent.
National team have to show "Korean is excellent race" to foreign countries.
That is why they heat up National team.

But they are not interested in domesitic league.
Many things are tools to show thier prestige, Sports and study and some.
Korean have the invaded history by China and Japan.
So they only can make sure of the significance of existence by foreign country's evaluation.

>>555
Maybe you are Japanese fisher, i think (笑)

侵略の歴史と民族の自我意識の肥大化はあまり関係ないとおもう。
日本も明治の開国直後は今の韓国人のように自我意識を肥大化させた。竹内文書なんか面白いぞ。
情報鎖国をしていた国がかかる病だとおもう。
これと同じことが将来北朝鮮でも起きる。

Hello, afc.
Why are you interested in Nagoya Grampus?
Since, 水原 will face Grampus in the top 16 match on May?
Are you coming to Nagoya, then? It is not bad place to visit, I think.
If the game will be held at Toyota stadium, U lucky! It's a great!
Anyway, enjoy your visiting.

come on 韓国人(fc seoul fan)
let's join our discussion

please join our discussion
だった

英語下手でも no problem

まあいいじゃん
日本語の勉強がてら書き込んでるのかもしれないし

Sad to say top16match is scheduled to be held in Mizuho.
So,蔚山FAN didn't come so much, if 水原 would play at Mizuho, I want to many fans come to Nagoya.

552,555>> 書き込みに先立ってでサッカーはサッカーどおり話したらと思う. 歴史は NO ! スポーツはスポーツのみ !
今度 kashima 遠征時も感じたが Jリーグのマーケティングは本当に良いと思う. コカコーラ広告そして都市あちこちに広報 ..
そして KAMO 韓国では想像もできない広報だ .
現在私たちは水原市ですべての広報方法をマックウンサングテだ.
垂れ幕//競技当日ギッマルソルチ等々国で手伝ってくれないこういう面は日本があまりうらやましい

553>>こんにちはUrawaファン不足な日本語理解してくださってありがとうございます

移籍した選手たちの評判がそうですね..
LEE SANG-HOはまだ身が作われなかったようです良いチャンスをたくさん逃したんです
LEE WEIFENGはもうそんなプレーをしないです. 迎入の後心配をたくさんしたが彼はもう大人です..(例えばキリスト..孔子)
記事(News? magazine?) - http://kr.news.yahoo.com/sports/soccer/view?aid=20090501130100859d9(Korea interview)翻訳機 (日-
>韓) - (http://www.excite.co.jp/world/korean/)http://www.ce.cn/newSports/07more/200904/08/t20090408_18735530.shtml(china interview)
ニュースを見れば分かるが本当に人が完全に変わったんですこれ以上憎まないでください ^^

554>>現在の監督はチャ・ボンクンで彼が水原にヘズンイルが多いです更迭になっても信じてジジハルゴブニだ

557>>
サカマタが何ですか? 名古屋のマスコット(mascot)?
スワンイがならどこでも行きますナウィクルロブ(my club)ですから.
京幾前後で名古屋ファンとビール一杯しながら Jリーグファンと話もして見たくて

558>>immoral team fc seoul ( seoul = tokyo verdy(悖倫 ))
fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck ok??

561>> ulsan fan = ばかやろう ok? 球団で 70%遠征費をまかなったのに行かない町内です
一方に水原は鹿島に 300名以上遠征を行ったんです (ビがワで雨宿りして見た人たちが多かったですこの人らも ばかやろう) 名古屋にどんなに行くかも知れないですね

ソウル嫌われすぎｗ
笑ったｗｗｗ

2chでぐらい仲良くしなよｗ

>>548 i approve your opinion....thanks for your support...
war was history,we must remember that,avoid it,but not revenge,that will be never end...

>>549 necafe,too....

>>551 yes,chinese desu~ haha
i am chinese,more information about me above...
and...can u introduce yourself?
why don't u use english?

li weifeng performance well in SUWON,what do u think of it?

and i found it less korean soccer fans watch the ACL game....why?
does K-league the same? or spread by the fiancial crisis?

necafe = internet cafe
正常に翻訳できないだろうから
できるだけ日本特有の略語は使わないほうがよさそうだね

>>565
ネットスラングを避けることと、機械翻訳されても意味が通じそうな文にすれば理解してくれると思う
実際、泰fanやafcは理解してくれているようだし

>>546
hello afc! im another 鯱者. haha-. might see you at mizuho in june.
so nice to have foreign opponents like you (and 泰fan) here in this stupid place!! stay long if you like.

now im seeing ulsan is a rather less concerned party in korea. maybe like omy ardj or tky vrdy in j?
though i never say nagoya has big supporters..
and, you might have found that grampus still needs a better unit in central midfield..


ok.. anyway, one thing i want to know.. its not about football. but you guys should teach me!
what do elephants say in your place?
they go "paoooonn!" in japan.

>>564
泰fan! you should answer too! what do your elephants say?

please!

sorry.. im drunk..

>>565
>>566 i know the meaning of necafe.....always appear in japanese anime & drama...
and most other well known 日本特有の略語 is ok...

>>567 drink is not good for your health...
and..what do u mean of your question? elephants? i do not understand...


i wonder that kawasaki suppoter went to tianjin come back...
waiting...

verdyガッウンゴッは fuck ^^
象が鳴くこと? どんなに泣くかどうかを言うのか? 子犬わんわんのように? なんの話なのか..
私もアジックブゾックしてお互いに交流しようと
haha ~

>>568,569
thanks for thinking about my silly question. and, sorry if i made you confused..
i just wanted to know what sound people using other languages got from elephants when they screamed for something.
its my longtime question. and, common in japanese to describe their screaming "paooooonn!".

>>568 drink is not good for your health...
oh.. yes. maybe.. really nice of you to worry about my health.

>>569 子犬わんわんのように?
yes. i notice how strong i love animals everytime i hear them say something...


and, nagoya drew 2-2 with kobe yesterday in j..
really hard to play in domestic and Asian competitions in the same time.. isnt it?
hope someday your team will get good results in both!! mine too!!


>>569 verdyガッウンゴッは fuck ^^
おまえw

>>568
>i wonder that kawasaki suppoter went to tianjin come back...

maybe they are now busy to celebrate themselves, beating urawa yesterday..

中華鬼子
天津鬼子
TEDA鬼子

日本鬼子乙

中華鬼子
天津鬼子
TEDA鬼子
中華鬼子
天津鬼子
TEDA鬼子
中華鬼子
天津鬼子
TEDA鬼子

緑ウンコfuck　は万国共通なのか？

UP

back....busy everyday...

>>570 after u ask me this question.....i found an unbelieveable truth......
we have no any usually used word to describe elephants sound.....OTZ....

>>577
j-league MD 12 result

nagoya 1-1 omiya
urawa 0-0 g.osaka
kawasaki 2-0 iwata
kashiwa 1-2 kashima

1. kashima 26pt 8win-2draw-1lose *
2. urawa 24pt 7-3-2
3. niigata 22pt 6-4-2
4. g.osaka 20pt 6-2-3 *
5. nagoya 19pt 5-4-2 *
6. kawasaki 18pt 5-3-3 *

*ACL teams didn't play 1 game. they would play games in 1 july.
kawasaki vs g.osaka
nagoya vs kashima

また酷い試合だったね。

川崎は自滅
精神面が弱すぎる

Cリーグは相変わらず野蛮だな
中国人の多くは外部から指摘されると素直に謝罪することが出来ない民族と聞いたから
良識を持った中国人が自ら自国の恥を是正するように呼びかけ続けてもらいたいね

試合の度に選手が壊されていくのは負けることより辛い

またかよ、興梠に
つ鶴

ここに来る天津ファンにいってもしょうがないだろｗ
http://sports.sina.com.cn/
ここ行ってカンフーサッカー叩け

レーザービーム
ttp://upload.fam.cx/cgi-bin/img-box/l7k90519231812.jpg
あからさまな・・・
ttp://www.sanspo.com/soccer/images/090519/sca0905192314010-p1.jpg

↑の画像を中国のサイトに貼りつけたら速攻削除されてアク禁になったｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ

お前ら手伝ってくれよｗ

Kawasaki.....very sad.

百度に>>584貼りつけたら削除されたｗ

http://www.so-net.ne.jp/antlers/game_data/game/img/090519/06.jpg

↑ちなみに鹿島の公式サイトだからね
中国人てどうしようもないな

スレチかも知れませんが。
朝鮮偽忍者の騙りに匹敵する、新たな脅威が生まれています。
ウシャウスキー兄弟の最新作「ニンジャ・アサシン」に主演の反日韓国俳優Rain(ピ)。
彼が日本の忍者文化は日本だけのものではない、韓国にも忍者はいる等の朝鮮偽忍者的発言について、
IMDBでトルコ人が韓国人相手に反論しています。
名無しのごん兵さん等の支持、擁護もあるのですが、韓国工作人の非難・中傷が続々と寄せられています。
IMDBはハリウッドはもちろん、世界各国の映画関係者も必ず目を通す有名サイトです。短いコメントでも、日本人の不快感を世界に意思表示するには効果的な良い場所だと思います。
皆さんのコメントの(スラングはNGで)書き込みをお願いします。(スラングはNGで)
＜To wachowskis;You are disrespecting to Ninja culture!＞　　　　　　
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1186367/board/thread/137747559
この映画が公開され、興行的に成功すれば反日韓国俳優やその同胞の工作により、
朝鮮忍者が世界的にも肯定・捏造される恐れがあります。
バタフライ効果で日本の文化を朝鮮の侵犯から守っていきましょう。

【エンタメ】Ｒａｉｎ主演作『ニンジャ・アサシン』、初ポスター公開 [05/05]
　http://takeshima.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/news4plus/1241499864/l50
【映画】「俺の役の国籍を日本から韓国に変更してくれ」 映画『スピード・レーサー』出演のRAIN（ピ）［05/27］
　http://news24.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/news4plus/1211886270/l50
【韓国】Rain（ピ）『倭色物議？』〜「日本伝統の忍者ではなく、アジア的カラーの忍者を見せます」★２[09/20]
http://gimpo.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/news4plus/1221895205/

>>589
スレチかもしれないじゃなくて完全にスレチ
こんなアホなことやってるのによく他人を叩こうとできるな
まず自分の行いから改めろ
Do not write it any longer.

back....

write in english pls....
japanese hard to understand....

my mother is beautiful dog

>>591
http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=hXJi0EjMFCc&gl=US

do u think?

>>593 sorry....i am in necafe....don't have software to view youtube...
next time i will bring it,and reply....



watching 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱 2009 第08話 「笹の葉ラプソディ」.....
nagato daisuki~~

Nagato is my wife.

kyon's sister is my wife

I am wishing FIGO to come to J League.
I want to see the game that FIGO fights against Rivaldo by AFC Champions League.

>>597
FIGO had gossip "coming to Yokohama F Marinos" before 2006 W-cup, hadn't he?

>>594
you are undoubtedly 'otaku'.

Actually, have Big players (like Rivaldo) been success in Asia ?
I don't have such impression.....
It may be for that I only have chance to watch Jleague....(BEBETO, Ilhan, Wanchope and some )
Who is major player being success in Asia now?
And are there any special condition of Asian football difference from Europe and South America?

>>595
>>596 OTZ.......where is haruhi's husband.......

>>597 i wish FIGO join tianjin~~play with TOMMASI...

>>599 not really.....haha

>>600 big player success in asia? our DAMIANO TOMMASI!
of course do not have big success....

difference is existing
economy organization body technical and the development of nation....

泰fanは高橋泰が好きなんだな

>>602 sorry....who is 高橋泰???

>>603
don't care
just nonsense mutter

will you still watch the ACL?
which club do you notice of east 16 ?

>>604 why not??
tianjin out,i will support gamba osaka~

acl ist too hot ,please play calmly lol ^＿^

泰fan愛してるよ

>>607 haha~~i love japanese girls...~~~~~
if u r really a girl....

There's little number of girls on 2ch.....
Almost of them say "I'm gilr" who are........

案外2chって外人にも見られているんだな

Nagoya is good team? I think they are very balanced team.

What's the strong point of Nagoya?
I don't know Nagoya's superior...
Does Nagoya have a strong weapon to get ACL?

Nagoya's Ultimate weapon is PIXY.

>>611
Yes, Nagoya is the best balancer of J-league.

>>611
It is said that MF is inferior to other J League clubs.
Moreover, the entire player layer is not thick either.
Therefore, we are surprised because Nagoya exceeded the group league in 1st place.

>>611
水原fan？

Nagoya is not so strong physical,not so technical.
not so aggressive,not so diffensive
they play tactical orthodox 4-4-2
they have high level consensus and very high morale brought by their haedcoach PIXY Dragan Stojkovic
i think korean's orthodox style and powerful advantage will lead the game

every j-league team have a leader in midfield....
ENDO
OGASAWARA
KOGAWA
NAKAMURA KENGO....

and foreigner in forward...most of them from brazil...
am i right??

>>609 what a pity...i really like japanese girls,haha

>>617
mio is my wife
ttp://blog-imgs-41.fc2.com/i/c/e/iceky/MIO4_20090520032710.jpg

the tactic of Nagoya is simply "Davi".

>>617
you wrong pronounciation of "小川"
"小川" is pronounced OGAWA
you are right expect that

>>617
Yes. That's right.
Strong J-league clubs have talents of game-maker.
Their creativity and correct pass work is one of japanese strong points.

However there have been few talents of striker in Japan.
That may have been relation with Social surroundings.
It is suggested there are many cases of responsibility unclearning for any happen in Japan.
I think FW needed strong senses of responsibility and egocentric.
It is difficult person having those senses received by social emviroment.

Surely, No dought Brasilian player's superior talents.
How many strong teams aren't incorporating Brasilians in team tactics?

>>618 excuse me ....who is mio...???

>>619 haha,davi is a good player...important to Nagoya

>>620 ok,i see....thank u...

>>621 why social in japan cause few talents of striker?
maybe the reason is food....strikers must have more beef not rice and vegetable....in teenage



>>621

>>622
Because Japan is surrounded by Sea.
It is rare case that foreigner joined in japanese local community traditionaly.
So we have a feature that cooperetion looked important thing "too much" compared with other countries.

Football is needed both of organization and individual.
FW is needed indivisual and egoicentric to get a goal sometimes in game.
But "indivisualty or especially"may be looked as afraid to break community and cooperation in Japan.
So Japanese social surrunding is not good for FW.

>>622
mio is K-ON
by kyoto animation

ttp://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-ON!

The reason is not so complex
I think Japanese like pass more than shoot

Geographical features →Cultural features →Social features →Personal features
Gergraphics far from persons

Captain Tsubasa is the first
Second, social environment ;出る杭は打たれる〜beats one's stand out action
In neglected mass-school environment,Japanese learn to keep silent for self-protection

>>623
泰fan

what`s your plan after graduating from college?
will you get a job in tianjin?

>>623 i agree with u....cooperatino and individual must be combine
although football have 11 players each side.....
FW or star players must have some individual

but have another questions,individual in football need imagination,strong body and great technical ability....
my question is,why we east asians always do not have enough for these sides..?

>>624 i will learn it....

>>625 japan national team really need more shoot...
they can kick great long short,but never try it....
i found it too...they always pass pass pass.....even in the box...
just shoot, like TSUBASA like HINATA....
shoot from midfield~~~...

>>626 i want to try to apply some foreign university.....
if not success, i will work in tianjin.....
haha,why are u ask me this? u can offer me a job? lol ^＿^

>>627

I`m also in college.
I wanted to know about chinese student.

HINATA

>>628 ok~u study in japan? which college?
i want to know more about japanese student,too.....
curious about your spare time....haha

>>629 日向 i am not sure i am right or not......

anyone here？

>>631
ttp://hi.baidu.com/letus2ch/blog/item/a36953ebf797d8dbd439c925.html

i read this now

>>632 actually i don't know this cartoon....
i and my friends always watch japanese anime.....

u can read chinese?then please read the reply under the blog....
haha

can u tell me the most ninki anime in japan?

>>632 i found that blog....that is amazing...
is there any 掲示板 chat about this???

>>633
i'm japanese
i can't read chinese and english
but i use google translation
this blog is translating 2ch's news threads and blogs
news -> 2ch's news thread -> japanese blog -> this chinese blog

i recommend this(japanese blog)
ttp://blog.goo.ne.jp/dongyingwenren
this blog is also very interesting

>>633
this season
maybe...
1. K-ON!(けいおん！)
2. fullmetal alchemist(鋼の錬金術師)

3. ....sorry i don't know

i like eden of the east(東のエデン)

(^-^)

ねぇ泰fan

彼女ってどうやって作るの？

>>637
とりあえず、異性でも同性でもマナーを守らない人が好印象を持たれないのは確実だ。
彼女を作るためにはまずそこから直したほうがいいだろうね。
俺は何を言いたいか、それを英語で表すと

Please write comments in English.

ってことだ。
分かった？

>>635 thanks,that is an interesting place...
>>636 oh...thank u~~ i love FA...a great anime...I LOVE FA~ I LOVE SE~~

>>637
>>638
sorry...i can not understand u...even use translate website...
can u say it in english?

やぁ泰fan

俺日本人

君は中国人？

泰fanは日本食食べた事ある？


食べた事あるなら何が一番好き？

>>639
I think >>637 = >>640 = >>641.
He is just enjoying teasing you.
You should ignore him.

I love Football.
I'm moved so much that national team got the chace to challenge to France W-cup.
After that, I can meet one local club and I know the members ,who are minor players,
but they are fight for the team.
Their fighting sprits make me hot.

>>泰fan
Why do you interest in football?

>>640 absolutely chinese....haha
>>641 i guess u want to know my favourate japanese food...right?..
hmm...i think is ramen...and たこ焼き....of course Japanese crab....

>>642 ok.....

>>643 when i am 3 years old,my dad bought a little fooball...
and let me play with it... when growing older,i love to watch the football game
i love my local team,and AC MILAN...
football is artistry，so i like it....

What are popular sports in China?
Is football most popular?

In Japan, baseball is most popular, football is next.
(Other, volleyball, golf, sumo wrestling, 格闘技, etc...)

>>644
Oh? たこ焼き??
I did'nt know たこ焼き is sold in China...

But I can't understand what you call "Japanese crab"... 　　Is this "蟹"??
Most popular way to eat crab in Japan is boild. Did you eat boild crab?
But is this 日本食? (^-^;)

>>645 the most popular sport is basketball.....i do not like it....and
most basketball supporters are teenagers....

and the second is football,i think,but not everywhere,some province do not have the tradition of football...
so ...

best sport ...of course table tennis...(^-^;)

and volleyball and badminton are popular,too...


>>646 たこ焼き sold in every town in china...in shopping mall,in market....
and it is really delicious...if i have chance to OSAKA...must try original たこ焼き....
and ramen in kumamoto...haha

japanese crab is 蟹,yes
which have long~~~ legs,yeah...i like it...
of course boiled....raw crab is not good....

this is not 日本食? i know this kind of crab live in Alaska and Japan...
and OSAKA have a famous restaurant for crab.....so...in your mind,where is this kind of food belong to?

>>647
Ah, basketball!
I've watched TV program a few years ago, this program introduced SLUM DUNK was very popular in China's high school students.
Does this relates "most basketball supporters are teenagers"?
In Janan, basketball has not been major sport, and isn't going to major.
Because most sports funs is hold by baseball and football.
(In 2ch, football supporters are opposed to baseball fan.....)

I like たこ焼き too.
But I think the taste of たこ焼き is maked of wheat flour and たれ(tare sauce), less たこ(octopus).
I heard of that "Imitation たこ焼き" was sold in a part of region 20~30 years ago in Japan.
"Imitation たこ焼き", there was no たこ in it for reduction in costs.
So this was called "たこ無たこ焼き".haha~ (^Ｏ^)

上海蟹 is famous worldwide, isn't it? I haven't eaten 上海蟹, but I know this is boiled too.
So in my impression, boiled crab isn't Japanese original.

>>648 yes,SLUM DUNK was very popular in china,so let many students play basketball...
but now,more important reason is YAO MING & NBA's advertisement
many teenagers thought that NBA stars are very cool....
USA negro culture invade....
another reason is the result,chinese basketball team maybe ASIAN NO.1
but football not...so...
result only,that is bad...

たこ焼きreally good taste....and really want to taste たこ焼き in japan~~

上海大閘蟹 is famous,yes,but i never try it,we have our own way to cook it,but every way need boil....
japanese crab,i means the big big crab,have longggggggggg legs....
this kind of crab only live in deep sea,china do not have it...

and i know there is a 1:1 GUNDAM MODEL(great GUNPLA?)in tokyo....
what do japanese think about it?

>>649
About basketball, I understood.
In Japan, MLB(Major League Baseball) is very popular.
Nowadays there are some players who go MLB directly without going Japanese professional baseball league.
So Japanese-pro-baseball-league fans feel a sense of crisis.

> this kind of crab only live in deep sea,
I see. I studied and now I know 上海大閘蟹 lives in fresh water.

About 1:1 GUNDOM MODEL's question, I can hardly explain for my poor English skill...
【東京】台場の１８メートル・ガンダム像、公開前から来園者数千人が殺到、一躍観光スポットに（画像あり）★３
http://tsushima.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1245138325/
this is the thread about 1:1 GUNDOM in 2ch.
Who loves GUNDOM(GUNDOM OTAKU) are glad.
But almost all the people who are not interested in GUNDOM are feeling ... → ┐('〜`；)┌
In Japan, adults who loves ANIME OTAKU CULTURE are looked down on...
Because many people think animation should be watched by children only.

10 ：名無しでいいとも！：2009/06/16(火) 22:14:21.91 ID:wRdZOOqn
どこに書けば良いか分からないからここに書く。

お台場のガンダムに雷が落ちて、ガンダムが燃えとるｗ



＞泰fan
do you know japanese curry rice?
as same as ramen,curry rice was arranged in japan

>>650 i understood....actrally like china's CBA and NBA
some good players go to NBA
but i think u should not worry about it,although some good players play in MLB,still many good players in JAPAN
still NO.1 baseball league in asia,on the other hand,japanese players go to MLB can help them to a higher level
good for japan national team...


almost all 蟹 in china is small....i love fish and crab live in deep ocean~~like crab and tuna~~

about gundam ,i understand....same in china,most peoole think anime only for children....
but we know many japanese anime couldn't watch by children...like DEATH NOTE,SCHOOL DAYS....
when many chinese anime otaku knew the 1:1 gundam,they are preparing to go japan immediately...haha

>>651 hahaha,i think NEW TYPEs CAN SAVE THE GUNDAM~~

curry rice!!
i forgot it, really like japanese curry rice....
today's supper is curry rice...made by AJINOMOTO's curry piece,hahahaha
there was a japanese curry rice restaurant in 武漢,boss is a kind hearted japanese,but close now....

i wish there will be a japanese curry restaurant in 天津,do not have 1 yet......

if someone want to open a restaurant like this in 天津,let's cooperate to open one,haha
武漢 is OK,too~~(^Ｏ^)

>>652
There is a interesting episode about ANIME OTAKU CULTURE.
The Japanese Prime Minister 麻生太郎 likes comics and animation, and he sometimes says he loves it.
One day a reporter asked 宮崎駿 about above, He said "I think it is shameful. He should love anime
without appealing it."
宮崎駿 thinks animation is for children.

The other hand, many people think 宮崎駿's anime is so special, and can be watched by adults too.
I wrote "many people think animation should be watched by children only", there are variously
complex circumstances...


By the way, in Chinese board, face marks(such as (^_^;) (´･ω･`) ) are used well?

>>652 actrually i do not like 宮崎駿's anime...too cartoon...
too teen.,....haha,but his production can let the people from all around the world love it...
Aso Taro like anime & comics?did he said which type he favourate?

face marks used well in some BBS...but not usual as japan's
less people can type the face mark...
i am curious, the huge mark...how can u type it?????
it is too difficult to one human.....
is this called 繪文字？

>>654
Aso Taro reads major 3~4 weekly comic magazins for boys every week.
One day, Aso handed "Rozen Maiden" at a bookstore of airport, He had been called a nickname of "Rozen Aso" for a while.

It is called face marks(顔文字) or AA(ASCII Art, 絵文字).
In 2ch, there are boards for AA.
http://love6.2ch.net/aasaloon/

First, original types are made by who are called "AA craftsman".
Next, funny AA are used by other 2ch users with "copy and paste" again and again, and sometimes improved a little.
For example,
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　　/　　●　　　● |　　泰fan is a absolutely OTAKU kuma──！！
　 |　　　　( _●_)　 ミ
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/　＿＿　 ヽノ　/´>　 )
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Aso hasn't read "Rozen Maiden".that's just rumor in internet.
his favorite is "こち亀” & "ゴルゴ１３".some weekly comic magazine,too.

these comics help him easy to understand tiresome matters.
new technology, world affairs, etc....

>>655 Aso's 興味 is hard to feel....if he really read Rozen Maiden....
oh...god... better to read 少年jump....haha

so this is 絵文字?there is a button on my mobile phone wrote 絵 on it...
i think it is 絵文字
that is great,AA craftsman really really great....they are artists...

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hahahaha

>>656 maybe...but whatever,he read comics is not a bad thing
we all do not know what he love....maybe lucky star~~hahaha

>>657
>麻原彰晃is a absolutely 馬鹿野郎 kuma──！！
lol

泰fanと国際交流がしたいです！

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>>泰fan
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=JP&v=Lh-OVfEtJlY
5:57 功夫足球

7:51 激光光?

我只有吃?
并且我完全没反省的中国足球失望着
??打算明年，以??的足球ACL出??？

>>658 i really do not like this guy~~~~~~
>>659 u want to communicate with me ? am i right? ok~~

>>660 hahahahahahahahahahaha~~~~

>>661 sorry i can't log on this website....i will try later
and...the chinese translated by software?i can only guess your mean

about kungfu soccer
i do not know which match of that webpage...
for example....北京國安VS天津泰達 6.13
that match just like derby,milan vs inter,so i think it can be understand....
although violence is not good for athlete,but please try to understand it
maybe japan do not have similar thing like this,two team,they are enemy,i don't know
i can understand what u thought,u want to watch technical football,not others,japanese football fan is more peaceful than other place

i really hate 北京国安 and its fans,they use laser ,condom(full with water),bottles,cans and other things to attack our fans and players...
burn our shirt and flag
they learn it from europe

but i think it happens only in "derby" match,only in match like battle

so,u can found when chinese club and japanese club' match,it will be better
and when national team match...worse...because that means war for chinese players
they must fight
violence is not good...but please understand chinese situation....
i believe it will be better...

>>662
i understand that you need more times to solve the problem

by the way,how many clubs do you have at sclool?
football basketball table tenis or other culture clubs
how about culture club? like music 書 and more
in japan all school have many sports and culture clubs(about 20 clubs)
and students can choose a club they like
can you choose a club you like?

chinese players seem to be in high pressure to win
and,chinese fans too
i think that is the reason why games get rough

６月１３日の試合が２ちゃんねるでも話題になりました

【サッカー/中国】「カンフーサッカー」健在！「跳び蹴り魔王」の一撃とサポーター乱闘騒ぎ（動画あり）
http://anchorage.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1245420036/
■ソース
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20090618-00000023-rcdc-cn
■問題のプレーを伝える動画（00:30〜以降）
http://21chinanews.blog38.fc2.com/blog-entry-76.html

>>662
derby match get more excitting. ok...
but, chinese players often aim man's body without ball.
especially, when they will lose the game.

that's absolutely guilt.
chinese audience should reprove their stupid violence.
it's too late, someone must give one's athletic career up by a serious injury.

>>663 thank u for understanding....

clubs...hmmm...in middle school and high school,there is not any clubs....
university have some clubs,football,basketball,music....and so on
i know japanese schools have many clubs,and it is interesting...
and 學園祭 i wonder i can feel it once....

u r right,in china,everywhere have pressure.....
why high school do not have clubs?because pressure....
in japan,students graduate from school,they can have a simple work,marry sb...
in china,it can't be...
high school student is hard to have a work....there is not any company need them....
they can only have a low pay job....hard to live....
japanese lowest marry age is low...in china...female 21 male22...
the situation of china is weired...maybe japanese hard to imagine that..
but try to understand each other...

>>664 good....u can invite somebody in that page to here~~
we can chat....

>>665 this situation is better now,really.....谭望嵩 really not want to kick him...
just miss....u can search the picture on internet,from begin to end,his eyes always on the ball, not the leg...

violence absolutely guilt,yes,i agree...

i must say...china...need a great great change.....
everywhere...
i know, but i can do nothing...

帳尻PKｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ

誤爆スマソ

>>666
perhaps, chinese players start to play football in pressure
japanese players start to play football for pleasure in school age
and audience too
many japanese play football or futsal for pleasure after graduation
so japanese is more tolerant to players than chinese ,i think

危険なプレーについて、故意か、故意でないかは重要ではありません
もしも本当に故意ならば、譚望嵩選手は即刻サッカーを辞めたほうが良いです
また故意でなくても、スパイクの裏を見せたまま膝に蹴りを当てるという悪質な行為は相手に故意と見なされても文句を言えません

私は中国、東南アジア、中央アジアのサッカーの発展を期待してます
日本は欧州のレベルに追いつくためには強い国と対戦を重ねなければなりません
そして欧州南米は地理的に遠く気軽に試合を組めません
そのためアジア全体、特に地理的に近い中国・東南アジアのレベルの向上が日本にとって必要不可欠なのです

にもかかわらず、中国の年々悪化する一方の競技レベルとマナーに、私は強い不満を抱いてます

>>670
内容には激しく同意するが、本当に泰fanにそう訴えたいのなら英語で書かなきゃ通じないよ。
--------------　in English　--------------
I agree with you, but you should write it in English, or your insistence can't be understood by 泰fan.


>>666
Really do you want to change Chinese football situation?
If supporters really want it, can be changed.
But you should change thinking for it.
From your post >>662, I can see the thinking "If they do dirty play, we will do same way to them".
Such thinking is bad. Hatred chains like relation between Israel and Palestine...

>>671
英語でちゃんと説明できる自信がない・・・(´･ω･`)
意味間違えて英文書きそう

>>669 yes,i know. in many country,people can do they like to do....
but in china,it is hard....all because of population...
u want play football,maybe 10000 peoples want it too...no enough place to play
japanese is really more tolerant to players than chinese,many reason...
media and politics effect in important....

many many things,happend in china,make u feel weired... most of it because the population and CCP...

>>670 using traslate website..haha
あなたの言ったの、いずれにしても、譚望嵩の行為はすべてよくなくて、たとえ彼は別に故意でないとしても、依然として傷つけることをももたらしました

異なった地区は異なっている問題を持っていて、東南アジアは彼らはプロ化のレベルと資金の保証を高めなければならなくて、中国は体制を変えることを必要として、
同様な日本も体の素質を高めなければならなくて、実は本当とても扱いにくいです

中国のリーグ戦のレベル、実際にはとても大きく高まったことがいるので、私はその前の数日間多くの199のx年の試合のビデオを見て、今の中国のリーグ戦が実際にレベルが上がるのが高まりますとても多いことを発見します。
儀礼の問題について、これと中国の社会環境はとても大きい関係があります。中国の社会はそして日本のようです熟していて安定しているシステムそのようにではありませんて、とてもか弱くて、平常の変化、今全体の環境はとても上調子で、
だから各方面が問題が現れることを招いて、私達は同様にとても不満で、しかし同様にどうすることもできません。。

>>671 yes,all the fans want to change it.but we can do nothing....chinese situation is different from other countries....
chinese government do not care about peoples thought.CFA belongs to government 官僚主義

反省ing....that is bad, u r right....but they did hitoi goto(japanese...i don't know how to say it in ENG..)
i will not join them to revenge,they learn it from european derby match....

P.S. i support Isreal.....haha

>>672 かまわないです、無理強いしないでください

>>泰fan

アイラブユー

>>674 女性がもし付き合うことができるのだならば〜〜〜(^_^;)

>>675
今日からオカマになるので無問題

>>676 ....hard to understand.........

>>676
you let him take away his golden balls.

>>676　×
>>677　○

>>678
>>679 ????????????????????????????????????????

ケネディ（オーストラリア代表）が名古屋に来るよ
Socceroo Kennedy set for Nagoya

>>681 australian players maybe can't adapt japanese football style...

>>682
He is not first oz j-league player.　More than 10 players past, perhaps...
Nagoya's feature is side-attack. And Kennedy's feature is tall height(194cm).
This combination is not bad generally.

But I'm not sure whether he will fit, haha

>>683 nagoya have that brazil forward,right?i forgot his name...

was there any AUS player success in japan ??

先日、代表見にオーストラリア行ってきたが、
やっぱり英語できるようになりたいな。
他国の人と交流できたら楽しいな。
日本語でごめん。

>>685
その前の数日間あるオーストラリアの試合、日本のサッカーファンの勢いはとても大きくて、私は家にいて見たのTV、サッカーファンの音は聞くのがとても明らかです

日本語も大丈夫で、翻訳することができるのでさえすれ(あれ)ば、ハッハッ

私の大学は本当にとても残念に思う日本語学科がありません。。。

You're right, 泰fan. Nagoya has brazilian FW, his name is Davi.
He dribbles very well and shoots so powerful. He was second scorer last season in J-league.
I think (and hope…) that Davi and new AUS player will fit very mutch.

I guess most successed AUS player in J-league is Hayden Foxe who played in Hirosima '98~'00.
He was very tall DF and has played also premireship after played in J-league.

>>687 oh yes,DAVI,left foot player....i heard he is very expensive.....
AUS DF maybe more easier to success in east asia....they have strong body...
but MF CF ,different style...more harder...

oh,maybe DEL PIERO and SHEVCHENKO will go to CSL....
just maybe...haha

>>1
You did wrong spell twice.what's Englis,,lololol

how many ausie people has played in japan? i dun know

>>689 englis is not bad~ i can search this page in 2ch convinient.....

>>690 there is many in china....

huh,,its goodee

>>689-690
You did wrong spell.

ausie -> aussie　 (´･ω･`)ﾉｼ

yes, i got it

KAWASAKI 3-2 OSAKA
。。。。。。。。。。。。GOD。。。

I was sorry about Antlers lost.i wanted to get champ o afc to them

鹿島 is too 内弁慶.
And 大阪 is too 外弁慶.....

With this results, I can't have a hope J-league team will be ACL champ.

>>697 what about KAWASAKI?they can beat OSAKA....

川崎 is too KY.
And 名古屋 is too 中位力.....

With this results, I can't have a hope J-league team will be ACL champ.

be ashamed yourself, fucking AFC!!!!

　 　 ┌――――Pakhtakor (UZB)
　 ┌┤
　 ｜└――――Al Ittihad (KSA)
┌┤
｜｜┌――――Kawasaki Frontale (JPN)
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｜　 └――――Nagoya Grampus (JPN)
┤
｜　 ┌――――Bunyodkor (UZB)
｜┌┤
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└┤
　 ｜┌――――Umm Salal (QAT)
　 └┤
　 　 └――――FC Seoul (KOR)

I really lol.

what a Hammam...

┌――――Kawasaki Frontale (JPN)
｜└┤
｜　 └――――Nagoya Grampus (JPN)



AFC......that must be a conspiracy.....west asians want japanese club die.....

Fxxx off the arabs...

　<Today's J-league match results>
Kawasaki 1 - 0 G.Osaka
Nagoya 0 - 3 Kashima

　<J-league Top 5 & Nagoya>
1　Kashima　38pts　12win　2draw　1lose
2　Kawasaki　30pts　9win　3draw　3lose
3　Niigata　28pts　8win　4draw　3lose
4　Urawa　28pts　8win　4draw　3lose
5　G.Osaka　23pts　7win　2draw　6lose
　　　　　･
　　　　　･
12　Nagoya　19pts　5win　4draw　6lose

Kashima is too strong "in J-league", now winning 8 successive victories.
But.......

1 北京 7 6 1 27
2 山东 6 7 1 25
3 河南 6 5 3 23
4 长春 7 2 5 23
5 上海 6 4 4 22
6 天津 6 3 5 21
7 大连 6 2 6 20




7.02 长春 2-0 杭州
7.02 陕西 1-1 长沙
7.02 山东 0-0 江苏
7.02 北京 2-1 大连
7.02 天津 0-0 河南
7.02 青岛 0-0 广州
7.02 深圳 1-0 成都
7.02 上海 3-1 重庆

somebody said CFA will help 北京 win the title of CSL
we will see....

>>泰fan
How do you think the reasons why chinese football players would not come to J-league?
More foreing players would be able to play in J-league from this season.
(Now:4playes, Before:3 players per a team)
Asian players have a speciality "addition foreign player".

But J-clubs only interested in Korean and Australian.....
I want many countries players to join ! And want to watch "Colorful International League"!

>>706 decades of years ago,there are some chinese players went to j-league...
like 沈祥福 段舉 and so on

today's situation,many reason....

chinese players always like europe league,they thought the 2nd division of europe league is better than asians..
the other reason,they always do not like japan,i guess
3rd reason,japanese club need high level players,chinese players average level lower than japanese players.....
some elite players want to go to europe league.japanese clubs do not need common players,better to training themselvs...
but K-league have 2 chinese players,李瑋峰 馮瀟霆. both DC

and i want to ask u a question
How do you think the reasons why japanese football players would not come to C-league?

in our club,U-15 team have 2 japanese players....but they born in china....haha

and i wonder that forward in japan U-21 team,李忠成,was he chinese or korean?

>>707
李忠成(LEE Tadanari) is Korean-Japanese and Korean name is Lee Chung-Sung.
He acquired a Japanese nationality in 2007.

>>708 NARUHOTO......korean ka...

>>709
Chinese-Japanese often show an excellent talent in table tennis, basketball, literature, economy, and cooking.
Of course, I think that the competent player will show up in soccer in the future.

泰fanって中国のどこに住んでるの？

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名前で察しようぜｗ
泰fan→泰達fan→天津泰達fan

>>710 i hope so....

>>711 天津。。。

>>713 absolutely right!~達 in chinese simplyfied can not display in your screen....
so only 泰fan。。

>>泰fan
天津に天津飯ってあるの？
天津は都会かい？



天津のオススメ観光スポットと美味しい料理を
教えてけさい

>>泰fan
ちなみに俺は仙台って言う街に住んでる

わかるかな？

魯人が留学してた所だよ

魯人の頃なら仙臺かな？


魯人って漢字合ってるか知らんけど

>>715-716
キミわざと日本語だけで書いてるだろ？
嫌がらせか？
You are writing only in Japanese deliberately, aren't you?
Are you harassing to 泰fan?

I doubt 泰fan is chinese.....
He has knowledge too much about Japanese Football surroundings.

>>715 yes...天津は都会 desu....
interesting place...天津之眼 五大道 新水上公園 古文化街 天津博物館 周�ｹ紀念館
海河沿岸 相聲茶館 and so on。。。
food.... 狗不理包子 耳朵眼炸糕 十八街麻花 小寶栗子 張記包子 烤鴨 海鮮。。。

>>716 i guess your mean is 魯迅,studied in 仙台
of course we know him,everyone in china know him
his novel in every textbook i ever learned...

>>717 that is all right...although i can read english better...

>>718 haha,absolutely chinese...i know much more about japanese society....haha
like some japanese know much about china,we are the same...

>>709
Are you learning Japanese language?
You must want to say 「なるほど」. This is not NARUHOTO, this is NARUHODO.
「と」 sounds "TO", 「ど」 sounds "DO".

>>719
How do you get such information about Japan??

>>720 thank u ~~ i am not learning japanese.....just can speak a little...

get imformation..hmm...everywhere...mainly from internet.....
i think that is not difficult.....

>>721
From internet?
Is that Japanese site? or Chinese site?
Introduce me to the typical site.


By the way, in recent china, what type of music are liked?
In Japan, young people like to listen so-called "J-pop".
J-pop is generic name, it includes various types of music.
This has been influenced from various music, Japanese traditional music, American and English pops, rock'n roll, techno music, hip-hop, etc.
The J-pop that has hip-hop taste have increased recently.

5~6 years ago, Chinese 女子十二楽坊 became very popular in Japan, but recentry I can't hear their name...
My mother likes 二胡's tone very much, has still their CD.

女子十二楽坊は俺も好き
i like 女子十二楽坊, too!

>>722 hmm...which type of site do u want?
i said i receive some information from internet,not 1 website,but a lot of site..
including wikipedia....
game? music? culture? ACG? which type?

in china,most of people like chinese pop music.....
for me...Jpop is better,i pay attention on ORICON...and download new songs....
of course english pop music and classical music is OK either...

i know 女子十二楽坊,they are popular years ago....
but why we can't hear their name now??
your MUM like 二胡？ great~ 二胡 have many ancient music,do u know?
that is good

>>723 u like their music or their figure...?? haha

>>724
You see the website in Japanese?
I think you can hardly understand Japanese, so I wondered...

Recent my favorite is Perfume, 椎名林檎, BENNIE K, etc...

I'm sorry but I don't know the 二胡's famous tune and artists...
But BGM played with 二胡 are used well in TV program about Chinese history, and I like it too.

>>725 no...the website i watched is chinese.....
some jpop fans will translate japanese to chinese,and make link to download....
game forum is similar,we can also watch E3 and TGS through internet...

Perfume, 椎名林檎,they are good...i have dowload their new songs....
ありあまる富 right?
in new songs,my favourate is Love Forever by 加藤ミリヤ×清水翔太

u know chinese history?i know some japanese history,haha

Yeah, ありあまる富, Love Forever is so good.
I rental favorite CD, and get to iPod, and I'm listening it when I'm jogging.

Junior high school, that is 義務教育, teaches 漢文. I learned 鴻門の会 and 漢詩 in this class.
And Japanese famous history novelist write 三国志, 項羽と劉邦, 敦煌, etc, that was read by many Japanese.
So, I know a little about Chinese history.
About 20^30 years ago, NHK broadcasted the series of SILK ROAD for a long time, and that was very popular at that time.
So basically there are a lot of Japanese who are interested in Chinese history.

Do you like video game?
A few days ago, I bought a Wii to play Monster Hunter 3.

>>727 haha,i have an ipod,too,nano1 4G....
u like jogging?i guess your shoes are asics~~haha

china's 義務教育 have only 9 years....and there is not any about japan or other foreign countries.....
even in history textbook....残念...
i know many japanese like chinese culture,i can see it from 真三国無雙...
i heard about the silk road programme,and i know NHK have many programme about china...
i watched 激流中國....haha,maybe u can't believe i can watch it...

of course i like video game.....i have a wii,too.japan edtion....
and a XBOX360....

MH3,i want to play it online....but need a classical controller...
saving money to buy now...~~ before i graduated i play MHP&MHP2 with my roommate on PSP
we have 4 psps,so we can play together...
i like 太刀....

Dragon Quest 9

>>729 DQ9.....i do not hava NDS....

chinese VIDEO GAME forum.....

ttp://bbs.a9vg.com/

here is chinese 達人のcollection.........
ttp://bbs.a9vg.com/read.php?tid=1175996&fpage=&toread=&uid=&page=1

中国から2chてアクセスできないんだよね
串刺して投稿してるのか？

普通に中国から投稿できる

外国からの２ｃｈへのアクセスは中国からが飛び抜けて多いらしいよ
当然のように工作活動も相当行われてると思った方がいい

>>734
プロキシも使わないで工作するのかｗ

>>1を読みましょう

>>732
>>733
>>734
>>735
i can only guess your mean....
i can view this website without proxy server....
why u thought we must use proxy server...?

>>728
Yes, 三国志 is more popular than other Chinese historical story in Japan, as you know.
Before the game about 三国志 was made by KOEI, NHK broadcasted the puppet show about 三国志.
Of course this puppet show was for children.
Actually I think 三国志's story is very attractive.
I know friends who read 三国志正史 and study 東洋史 as his major after read 三国志演義.

You can see NHK in China?
I know NHK is broadcasting for foreign countries worldwide.
I guess you saw this.

I have Xbox360 and PSP, too.
Last year's my most favorite game is MHP2G and NINJA GAIDEN2.
This year, I couldn't meet the game I feel nice...

Were you a dormitory student when you were in high school?
Your high school was far from your house?

>>731
Thank you for introducing!
But I can't read almost posts even if I use translating website...
But I understood there are many Chinese who are interested in Japanese game.^^

>>735
むしろ串刺すと2chは書き込めないんじゃなかったっけ？
面倒だから試してないけどｗ
--------------　in English　--------------
But can't we post with using proxy server in 2ch?
I'm tired so I didn't try it.

>>738 yes....三國演義 is a novel only...but exciting than history~~
三國志is the real hitory...

i can not watch NHK in china....satelite TV is unlegal in china...
but i am trying to set a receiver to watch satelite TV...
i watch the programme from internet,i can download it from EMULE....

do u have a PS3? seems u like action game~~NINJA GAIDEN is good game....
i have a english teacher,he like it,but too hard for me,haha

when i am in high school,i should went back home everyday....our school is not large,so do not have
寮....i ride bicycle everyday,almost 30 minutes to school...
are u a high school student?

haha,i wonder that how many chinese simplyfied u can understand when u on chinese website...?
if u want to communicate with chinese players,u can post in japanese,many of them have high japanese level....
we are all asians,similar culture,so can understand each other better....i like japanese game,too~~


>>739 why u use proxy server in 2ch....???

>>1
Englishも書けない奴が英語で書く資格あるのかｗｗｗ

how do you understand the japanese program 'illegal'(´･ω･`) NHK?
in internet, you have translated with web site. i see...

>>740
You shouldn't say such thing at 2ch.
Chinese illegal copy and act of disregarding copyright are very very hated in Japan, especially at 2ch.

>>742 illegal NHK? which programme?激流中國？real and unreal 50% either
some problem not so serious,but it is exist,situation better than they said
and some worse problem they do not know,and never let u to make TV programme..

>>743 i know that,i can understand.but please understand us.
if i do not download from internet,how can i watch such programme?
include the drama and anime,we can not have legal way to get information.
if everything in china legally,then all the mind of chinese is red,do not know anything in worldwide.
we do not want to be north koreans,that is our only way,even it is illegal
please understand us...our situation is different....
maybe u can thought it as help us build a democracy and freedom country....

ahngoaaaaaaaaa━━━━━━━━━ξ*｀∀´>━━━━━━━━l!!!!!

六四天安門事件

来年はACLで海外チームと試合やりたいな・・・
みんな羨ましい。
英語できないし・・・
日本語でごめん

>>745 ahn kick many goals for DALIAN wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>746 i know it...i watch many video clips on YOUTUBE.....

>>747 日本語の大丈夫な~
は来年のACLがもっと良くなることができ(ありえ)ることを望みます

泰fanは何歳？

>>749 22.....

>>740
I have PS2, but don't have PS3. Attractive exclusive software title on PS3 are yet few for me.
Yes, I like action game, but my action skill is poor...
About NINJAGA2, I tried again and again and again and ････････, untill I cleared stage.
When I cleared it all and I reported my clear-time to the NINJAGA2 thread in 2ch, I was laughed very much.
This is "下手の横好き" (^-^;;

You said "before i graduated i play MHP&MHP2 with my roommate", so I guessed you lived in 寮...
My misunderstanding?

Can I dive into Chinese forum?
No, no, I don't have the courage to do that... So I really respect you....

There are some people who believe that proxy server can completely secure anonymous when they do bad thing on internet.
And there are some people who think Chinese conspiracy are executed in 2ch.
I think these are nonsense...

>>744
Umm, it's a deep and serious problem...
I can understand your situation, but still I agree with 743.
You have to understand 2ch.
Basically there are a lot of users who just want to attack other users in 2ch.
That point is a good excuse to attack you and chinese...
I don't blame you for download and etc, but I want to stop you to write that in here...

>>747
っhttp://dic.yahoo.co.jp/
っhttp://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/
あとは中学程度の文法で何とかなるもんだよ
それと間違っても気にしないことｗ
You can communicate with junior high school level English grammar.
And it is important that you don't care if you mistake!

>>751 same to u~have ps2 not ps3......
i am action game 苦手....worse than u....so i know DMC is good game,but i never finish it...
NINJA GAIDEN more difficult than that...
but i play 鬼武者 well,haha

yes...i lived in 寮,but that is in my university,haha
u have not answer my question...how old are u?are u a student?

of course u can dive in to that forum....
they are very kind to japanese,don't worry~there are many interesting people on that forum
middle school student,university student,business man,US ARMY....

haha，i understand....i am too lazy to do such thing...i only use proxy server when possible...
if have possbility,i want have some conspiracy in chinese website wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

ok,i see,that is all right~ in fact,japanese is more peaceful than many country in the world....
i understand u.so i will never mention it...

>>752 in fact....my english grammar is bad.....and have many fault...haha,i know it

>>750
俺も22ｗ

>>754 are u >>749?

×Englis
〇English

>>753
I like 鬼武者 too.
Except for action game, I play FPS&TPS, RPG, SRPG, Racing, Soccor.
What type of games do you like?

Did you already graduated from university?
Sorry, I thought now you are in university...
And my age? hahaha... I am over 35, so I'm already おっさん...

Why are there US ARMY in Chinese video game forum?
lol!

My English must be many mistakes too...
I always can't decide which is correct English...
Should I write this as 単数 or 複数?
Should I use 過去形 or 現在形 or 現在完了形?
Should I add "a" or "the" or nothing?

>>755
Yes！

>>757 my favourate type of game similar to u
FPS&TPS, RPG, Racing, Soccer
i am NO.1 WINNING ELEVEN player in my department~~haha
and i am gooding at FPS&TPS~

hello~おっさん~i have graduate from university 1 month ago~~~

because that US ARMY is come from china,hahaha
he born in china and join US ARMY for years....he is an absolutely ANIME OTAKU.....
he want to paste the picture of SUZUMIYA HARUHI on the APACHE helicopter....wwwwwwwwwwwww

my english is bad,but that is not important~~the most important is we can communicate~


>>758 haha,nice to meet u~~~~are u a student or 會社員?

lollollol XD XD

>>759
I liked WINNING ELEVEN too. but I have not played recent title of the series...
I bought and played the No.7, 8, 9 of the series at a full price.
But After I bought it, the price was immediately downed and I felt regrettable...
So I didn't buy the No.10 when it was launched and waited the price to be downed.
But the price of the No.10 and afer series were not downed very much...
After that, my passion of WINNING ELEVEN has gotten cool...
I am not 貧乏, but I am 貧乏性...

>>761 i played this series from NO.5...on ps1....
haha,interesting....what is your mean of 貧乏?
you have a work,i think it is not hard to buy a game....

how do you think about genocide in Uygur?
red army kill more than 150 Uygur citizens.

>>763
× genocide in Uygur
〇 counter-terrorist in Uygur

× red army kill more than 150 Uygur citizens
〇 army kill more than 150 Uygur terrorists

i wish they will kill more terrorists...
if u live in china,u will know they must be kill....

this is chinese information control, hahaha.

>>765 nonono.....
u do not know the situation
Urgur thieves are in every city in china,around us
and the law protect them,they can have a blade with them,漢族 can't
they do some illegal things, less punish than 漢族
they steal,and police caught them.but no laws can punish them
must let them go,and steal continues.....
and they are more and more now
漢族 can only have one child,if u have more,u must pay for it
other 民族 have no limit....

not information control,it is different situation

brainwash...　(´･ω･`)ﾉｼ

>>767 me?hahaha
brainwash makes me hate communism?

US ARMY in chinese video game forum....

ttp://bbs.a9vg.com/read.php?tid=1220637&fpage=1

なんでここ英語なの？

スレタイにもそんなこと書いてないよ

>>769
Do you know this？
http://www.iza.ne.jp/news/newsarticle/248827/

Chinese NC testings in X?nji?ng

in 新疆 Shinjang Uyghur

we don't want to blame you 泰fan
but we want to know level of infomation control in China

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I think there are many kinds of values in China.
There are lots of people have a defference thinking way in each others.
Some of Chinese have narrow and fixed vision.
But in same time, many Chinese has broaded all over the world.
So there are many people have world-wide vision too.
Hong Kong, Uyghur....I hope they will respect each of difference stances.

this thread is ACL and football forum

>>775
What's topic do you want to talk about?-
This sled members only are J-league clubs fans and 天津泰達fan....
If there are some persons know deeply about other Asian clubs

{
Umm Salal (QAT)-FC Seoul (KOR)
Pakhtakor (UZB)-Al Ittihad (KSA)
Bunyodkor (UZB)-Pohang Steelers (KOR)
}

disscusion will may be interesting......
It may be difficult to take deeply conversation on japanese web site....

>>泰fan
> i wish they will kill more terrorists...
> if u live in china,u will know they must be kill....
I am really disappointed with you...
This is the racist thought.....

You sometimes say "Please understand us and our situation".
But why don't you try to understand them??
Now Chinese media and another countries media say different things about this affair as you know.
Of course I can't judge which is true.
But I think the outline of the background is below.
・Basically Uygur people always have complaints against Chinese policy and want independence.
・But Chinese goverment never permit their independence.
・Because Uygur land has a lot of natural materials.
I think they are sacrificed for Chinese goverment's greed.
I believe if Chinese goverment abandon their greed, all Chinese people can be more happy, including you...
I can understand this is very sensitive problem, so we have to be more cool-headed, less emotional...

>>771 i don't believe that,i have a uncle works in XINJIANG,he said that is fake

>>772 that is all right,i want u know it,too.....
level...hmm every TV station,every city,especially CCTV,all controlled by the government
even newspapers,radios,magazines,websites....
and no foreign TV programme allowed broadcast in china mainland

they are fobbiden to broadcast something government do not want people know
in media,everything is good in our counrtry

BUT we have internet,we have proxy server,we can know everything

and all the people know what the government doing,all people around us don't believe that

that shit programme not for us,it is for the people live in countryside

maybe u know the famous"新聞聯播”，all the news are shit,first,we do not watch it...
then we watch it as a lie.....finally,we watch it as a joke....

>>774 u are absolutely right ....

>>775
>>776 yes~~~haha,but if i can make more japanese understand china's situation,that is not bad~

POHANG STEELERS,our team have 2 matches with them,them are strong,and their brazillian forward is dangerous...
other team....which is the team that RIVALDO in ??

泰fanと結婚したい

>>779 haha,u have chance~ i do not have girlfriend now~~~and i like japanese girl~~~

>>泰fan
愛があれば性別なんて関係無いさ

>>781 関係があります!!!!!!!!!

不覚にも笑ったｗｗｗ

>>779-782
LOFL!

it's interesting that he ignore >>777.

>>777 i am not ignore u,sorry....when i typing...u paste it..
reply now

This is not the racist thought
i said kill,not kill Urgurs......they have their right to live
some Urgurs can live peaceful with us, and i really like their food...
i mean to kill that Urgurs want to kill us....

to be a country,there is no reason to let one province independent
japan is the same,for example,HOKKAIDO want independent to be a country
will japanese government agree???

yes,xinjiang province have many nature material,but that is not the reason
other province in china also have material,that is not the most important point

just because 1 reason:There is no government in the world can let the country separated.....

not racism,maybe japanese hard to understand,we have many many 民族
it is too hard to manage a country with 56 民族

and please pay attention to the reason of this genocide

Urgur workers rape 3 girls in Guangdong,and there is no law can punish them
what can the workers do?let the rape continue???
they fighting.
so Urgurs angry,they feel an insult,so they walking on the street,kill anyone they want to kill

hey,is there any justice???no law can protect us,can't we self-protect?
and who care about that 3 girls,1 is died,who care about them??

u live in a democracy and legal society,but our law is shit
Urgurs steal kill rape,no one can punish them
so i support the government,the 1st time i support them

some media always have COLD WAR thought,yes,communism is shit
but try to thinking like a people live in china,u will see

that Urgurs really not a peaceful 民族
There are only the expansion of Islam and killing
Please go take a look at their Koran

if u can read chinese ,may be u will interesting at this,about xingjiang & general WANG ZHEN

ttp://bbs.shengzhou.com/viewthread.php?tid=15134

how do you get to know these incidents?

you said ....

>every TV station,every city,especially CCTV,all controlled by the government
>even newspapers,radios,magazines,websites....

yes, there is no low in Uygur, Tibet ...
in there place, army can kill citizens with no punishment. hmm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDdeW2qhZ2M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNnA3K_kCEc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXC5RxhZUYw

i can understand your indignation about 3girls.
but it's important that try to understand their indignation, too.

theｙ "少数民族" have lived in their place for long long time.
now, 漢族 live in. and they dominate there.

I think there are more appropriate sleds to talk about such topic.

>>786-787
First, I'm sorry for calling what you say racist thought.
That's my misunderstanding.
(But I still think that is too cruel expression...)

Next, about country and independence.
OK, I receive your insistence that natural materials don't relate.
But I think the reason is the ego that China want to keep themselves as a big country.
Have you ever thought about the reason why the country borders are exist?
I think this is because the interests of the people who live in the region are conflicting.
(interests：利害)
Czechoslovakia has separated into the Czech Republic and Slovakia.
Serbia and Montenegro, Baltic countries have also separated.
Why?
This is because conflicts of interests exist and caused people's fights.
Do you think these countries people are more happy than now if these countries are same country like old time?
I don't think so.
I think the happiness of people who live in the region is the most important.
If HOKKAIDO want independent from Japan?
I agree if the people will be more happy.
It is much much better than people fight and kill each other.
> it is too hard to manage a country with 56 民族
I think there is no necessity for China to do such too hard thing.
If China stop such too hard thing, each countries can find a way to be happy more easily.

Next, about Urgur workers rape.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124699285048707143.html
> Authorities in Shaoguan, an industrial city about 120 miles north of Guangzhou,
> say they investigated the rape allegations against the Uighurs and determined
> they were false. Two men have been arrested for spreading rumors online
> about the alleged rapes, according to the state-run Xinhua news agency.
Is this article incorrect?
I googled with the words of "Uighur rape", and I read the top 20 articles.
The major media articles all say "rape is false rumors" like above WSJ article.
Who said "rape is true" is all post of forum and BBS, and the poster is like Chinese.
I'm not sure, but I feel the WSJ article is true.
But you and 漢族 believed the rumors are true without doing the confirmation work.
This act is more serious problem than the fact about this affair.
To solve this problem, I have two answers.
1. China permit their independence.
　Your conflicts of interests are much and deep.
　And your mutual hatred is too strong
　I can see that your mutual understanding can't be restored at least next 20 years.
2. All Chinese need is "media literacy"
　Now in China, if one person make and spread evil rumor, you kill each other easily.
　First you always have to doubt it and seek that information source.
　And seek various article about that, especially another countries media, as far as you can.
　Who can use internet like you, should acquire "media literacy", and teach the thinking to the other Chinese people.

>>790
it is no use advicing to such guys.
they want to talk about such a topic everywhere and they thought it is NOT wrong.

it is most important topic, they say right thing and they are in justice.
where is the reason they stop talking about it ?

>>泰fan
泰fanの初体験は何歳の時ですか？

>>789 i do not believe their lies.....only i can trust is videos photos and friends live in there
for tibet,i know army kill many people,i have watch that video,i really do not know much about tibet...
BUT,as i know,no one hate TIBET around me,although they are rude,too
and,everyone do not like Urgurs,someone hate them,WHY??

everything have a reason....

>>791 i understand your thought,but i do not agree
you agree if the people will be more happy?
i think this should have a referendum,not only this place
AND,i believe most of Xinjiang people don't want to separate
many 漢族 live in XINJIANG,they live well,and many Urgurs very rich,they always don't want separate

about the rape,in the BBS,many people on the BBS a long~~~ time
i think they can be trust,and fake and truth can be selected by experimental bbs user...

independent is impossible....CCP want get taiwan back(i don't think so..),so they will never allowed lose 1 inch land...
and not everyone live in XINJIANG want to independent,there are many other 民族 live in xinjiang....and not all the Urgurs want to separete...

i agree the NO.2
chinese media need liberation,but it is too hard....
and i wish western media can be more honest,sometimes they lies too....

i sugget u to post a topic about china in english....
i will join the disscution,this topic is about ACL....

>>794 at my 19 years birthday.....haha,this question i can understand without translate

打倒支那共産党

>>795
I have known you don't agree with my thought about independence...
And I have known China never permit anyone's independence.
But I think it is significant that you can know democratic countries way of thinking...
I said all I want to say about it, so I don't repeat it.

> many 漢族 live in XINJIANG
I know. We call this 同化政策, and criticize this policy.
I heard that 漢族 in XINJIANG was 7% in the past, but now it is 40%.
And now 漢族 in Urumchi is over 70%.
How do you feel if Urgurs in 天津 is over 70%? Can you receive it?
> Urgurs very rich
There are Urgurs who want to protect their traditional way of life more than they become rich.
But they can't choose.

I think it is risky that you completely trust BBS, even if it is major thought in the BBS.


By the way, I want to know the reason why you call some Urgurs terrorists.
I know ETIM are terrorists. But ETIM didn't involve this affair.
(ETIM：東トルキスタンイスラム運動、East Turkestan Islamic Movement)
If rape rumor was true, they should be called criminals, not terrorists.
I know Urgurs rioted in XINJIANG on July 5, they should be called mobs, not terrorists.
Tell me why.

ここって一応サッカースレだよね。別にいいけど

>>797
>How do you feel if Urgurs in 天津 is over 70%? Can you receive it?

if they can live peacefully,i can recieve
漢族 live in xinjiang peaceful,all they want is work there,not同化政策
i am hard to understand why u think CCP is absolutely bad.
why they do everything is bad?? masaka u think CCP must do not allow 漢族 go to xinjiang??
is there still our country's land???
there is more 漢族 xinjiang,not 同化政策,there have more chance,they go there by theirselves will,not order...

>There are Urgurs who want to protect their traditional way of life more than they become rich.
But they can't choose.
Urgurs not hava one brain,they have many thought,not every Urgurs want have traditional life,many of them want modern life
of course they can choose,in china,everywhere have their temples,they have their life

>>797 ETIM have many connections at this affair,not all Urgurs want to kill
some terrorist incitement the urgurs

u must believe in one thing

maybe many of chinese do not like CCP
but,if they do not incitemented,no riot will happen

do not belive all the western media,they are extremely to china
of course chinese media always lies...

we must believe the real thing,not the news
and please open another topic...

>>798 yes,let us go back to football~~

>>799-800
OK, you don't want to discuss any more, so this is my last post.
Honestly speaking, I didn't want to discuss a political topic, too...
I have known you and I conflict and can't agree about political topic...
But I can't be patient against your post >>764...

I didn't say CCP is absolutely bad.
(Am I right about CCP＝Chinese Communist Party＝中国共産党?)
I just protest against CCP's specific policy I think wrong.
This is same as I protest against Japanese goverment's specific policy I think wrong.

Unfortunately, I still think that is 同化政策. And western countries think so, too.
About 同化政策, this Wikipedia English page is "Ethnocide".
If you want to know about it, take a look.

Do you respect Urgurs traditional way of life?
If they continue such life, are they treated as same Chinese?
If you say yes, why do they have complaints?
(I don't say "ALL" Urgurs have complaints.)

> but,if they do not incitemented,no riot will happen
Sorry, but I can't believe it without reliable evidence. The reason is below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uN32RSb92w　　(グロ注意)
This is a shocking video that many 漢族 lynched Urgurs workers in 広東省,玩具工場 on June 26.
This lynch was caused by the rape rumor, and made 2 dead and 118 injured person.
Even if the rape rumor was true, You can never say justice was 漢族's side.
Bashed persons are all related the rape??
Were 漢族 bashing anybody who were Urgurs??
Anybody should be in a extreme rage without incitement, if they see this video.
It is very natural that Urgurs did demonstration march for investigation of this lynch.
Actually I want to do demonstration march for Urgurs.
(But I don't support that they rioted after they met 武装警官.)

Go away anyone not to talk about FootBall.

>>801
東亜板か中国の百度、天涯にでも行け屑

>>801 nono,i suggest u to open another topic,i do not know how to open it...
thank u all the same,u let me heard another sound from the world...
whatever u say,i believe that if this happened in japan,there always someone jump out and
fight the URGURS ...remember,laws can not punish them,only we can do is protect ourself

>>802 OK~~~let us talk about football
which is your favourate european football club??

>>801
場所間違ってない？
しつこいよ、君

荒らしではなさそうなので静観してたけど、さすがにもういいでしょ。

一応ここはポリティカルな話題はNGになっているんで、今後は控えましょう。

Recently,many Korean players go to Saudi.I am very interested about it.

>泰fan
Lately,some important keyword worked for improvement of football in japan
like "eye contact""runinng with thinking""man-power"etc
these keywords were brought by foreign coarches,and become popular by mass-media
is there any keyword or topic in china ?

sometimes,we tackle to the keyword matter all over the country(of course in J-league)
how do you do? are you different?

タブーに触れて正直な議論しなきゃ真の友好なんてあり得ないんだけど
まあ、長々と脱線しちゃうのも良くはないわな

別に友好スレってわけでもないしそんなことを言ったらタブーなんて家族や友達の中でもあるわけで
それを「無いよ」なんて言っちゃう人は信用できないし付き合いたくないな

It is no matter to talk about Taboo if it is discussed on Appropriately place.

But this is football sled.

People ,who want to talk about football, stay here.
People, who want to talk about politics, go to correspondence sled.

てかしばらく前から泰fanと話すスレになってるよね
厳密に言えばACLスレであってサッカー話なら何でもいいという訳でもないし
まあ英語で書かない俺もスレ違いかｗ

9月まで派過疎るだろうね
でもそれでいい

まあ目的が真の友好とかならそれこそそれ用のスレ建てたらってなるよね

now ACL is like an off-season.
no ACL match until 9/23.
and teams which still surviving ACL are only 8.

so there's few topics :-(

ah... FW Davi went out from Nagoya.
he join Umm-Salal (fight against F.C.Seoul in Quarter finals)
Nagoya got about 700 million yen from Umm-Salal.
what a oil money!

i'm inturested in how Nagoya coach Stojkovic will rebuild the team.

泰fan消えたら9月になろうが決勝になろうが過疎るﾖｶﾝ

普通の海外にいる外国人は絶対こんなところに辿りつかないだろうから、外国のサッカー掲示板に宣伝にしに行って、引き連れることも考えたけど…。


泰fanが頻繁にきてくれるのでそこまでやらなくてもいいのかな、とも思い、やってません。
どう思う？


英語じゃなくてごめんなさい。

>>815
2chだから一長一短あるしね。
今のところ、差別レスや中国の難しい問題などを書きこまれても
泰fanが冷静に流してくれてるおかげで、のんびりしたスレになってるわけで。
もしも短気な人だったらスレが荒れるだけでここまで伸びなかったと思う。

>>815
It is glad to make disscussion acitively by new comer has great known about Asian Football.

>>816
I agree 泰fan takes good correspondence.
He is so rationaly.

>>815
そこまですんの？？
単に2chに迷い込んだ外人を誘導するためのスレだと思ってたが

英語でACLの話したいだけならbig soccerとかいくらでもあるでしょ

http://4-ch.net/
一応こういうサイトもあるようだけど人いないみたいだねｗ

>>806 many?LEE Y P,and? i don't know...

>>807 no....our sports media pay less attention at japanese football....
so i don't know that...and i can't understand the word "keyword" mean in your reply..
you mean target or something else?

>>811 that is all right...i wish more people join our disscussion of football...

>>813 yes,so if u want,we can talk about europe football~~crazy RM and our poor MILAN...
DAVI....really a high price...i am interested who will NAGOYA buy....can they buy the 2nd HULK??wwww

>>814 i am not disapeard...

>>815 i think the problem is language...our east asians have similar language and similar culture....
other country different to us...and u know the relationship between china japan and korea..so forget it..
why i am never introduce chinese to this BBS,i wish can have a peaceful atmosphere here...

>>818 thanks.....haha

このスレは「泰fanだけど質問ある？」に改名すべき

This thread should be renamed as "I'm 泰fan, do you have any questions?"

>>822 there was some korean here....

>>822
だなｗ
次ｽﾚはVIPということで

個人名を出すと荒れそうだし、一応他の外国人にも門戸を開け続けるという意味で、次スレも同じでいいんじゃない。

Englishにはしないといけないけどね。

泰fanが言う通り、荒れないようにするためにも外部に宣伝して引き込むのはやめておこう。

this is englis thread, you know.
so, we expect to meet and communicate many foreigners.

nobody is here.

>>827 i am still here...but maybe someone want other foreigners here...

Now few people are interested in ACL....

泰fan,welcome! Please comments more and more.

Oh comin
Suck my fuckin little cock baby!！

泰fan日本においでよ

結婚しよう

>>829 ha,it wiil be better later...

>>830 i won't leave...

>>832 ????

ところで泰fan

サッカーの経験はある？

Do you have experience to play football?

Why do you like football?

泰fanて、ちんぽでかい？

My chipo is small

中国人は漢字忘れた時って
どうやって書くの？

>>834
>>835 of course....but that is in my primary school....
we play football everyday when class over.......
now...less place to play...and all of my friends are busy....

>>838 why we forget...we can use the same prononce word....like 丁 and 訂
of course we have PINYIN....like roman in japanese....

ごめんなさい
読めません

>>840
オマエ馬鹿だろ
てかスレチいい加減にしろよ

泰fanが下らん質問もいちいち相手にするからスレ違いが続く件

お前らそんなにこだわるほどこのスレが必要不可欠なのか？ｗ
とりあえず今は政治的なレス以外で喧嘩しなきゃいいよ

でも、泰fanの印象がよくなったぜ。

まぁなんだ
皆仲良く国際交流しようぜ

話題が無きゃ過疎ってればいいじゃん
無理して話つなぐ必要ないし

>>泰fan
ttp://www.the-afc.com/zh/member-association-news/central-a-south-asia-news/24854-acl-top-scorer-on-trial-with-tianjin
ttp://www.the-afc.com/jp/member-association-news/central-a-south-asia-news/24854-acl-top-scorer-on-trial-with-tianjin

カンフーサッカーが原因？ 「なぜJリーグ移籍できないのか」中国紙が分析。
http://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/4262419/


"gung-fu soccer" the cause? "why couldn't chinese players transfer to J-league clubs?"
chainese paper have analyzed.

all japanese, but i suggest to read this interesting article.
how about it? truth?

>>泰fan
http://www.j-league.or.jp/nttdigest/
J-league digest video
enjoy!

>>848
若い有望な中国の選手と契約したくても、契約後に選手の知り合いや親戚が現れて話をややこしくすることが多いので、敬遠されてるという話も聞きます
それから、徐暁飛(Xu Xiaofei, Henan Construction)という選手もいたので記事は少し不正確ですね

>>849
これたぶん海外からみれないよ

>>847 yes,i know it...he seems a good player,our local sports news say so....
we will see....this season we have situation on our forward...EBER only 1 goal...

>>848 some chinese players 素質 is low...as we know,china do not have a good social surronding and completely professional club
but we also have good players,i hope they can play in J-league. and,i wish japanese club know, CHINESE PLAYER CAN SIGN FREE! because of CFA's rule different to FIFA....
if u want a chinese player,give him a contract,OK...
CFA have a shit rule,when player's contract over,he still belongs to the club for several(20-30) months...
but that is not FIFA's rule...

>>849 good video...although i can not watch it,haha,i will try by proxy server...i remember something...TOKYO FC have a AMR score every match???all goals are long shot?
that is great...

中国人ならオージー補強した方がいい、

保守

Is football more popular than table tennis, baseball, golf in chaina?

football is good. i like it