★090530 morningcoffee TVドラマ「サマヨイザクラ」実況報告

モ娘（狼）（ http://dubai.2ch.net/morningcoffee/ ）において、
複数スレでTVドラマ「サマヨイザクラ」実況を報告するスレです。

a) 投稿内容　番組の実況
b) 規模頻度　最大 32res/min
c) 爆撃範囲　
　　http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243684668/
　　http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243686176/
　　http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243686181/
　　http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243686163/

d) 継続性　09/05/30

◆報告の注意
・http://info.2ch.net/wiki/index.php?%B9%D3%A4%E9%A4%B7%CA%F3%B9%F0
・書式を合わせて報告して下さい。フォーマットに沿っていないと原則スルーです。

◆書式
最新の書式はwikiを確認してください。
http://info.2ch.net/wiki/index.php?%B3%C6%B9%D3%A4%E9%A4%B7%CA%F3%B9%F0%A4%CE%BD%F1%BC%B0
・書式４を推奨します。
※時系列で報告して下さい。
※曜日表示は消して報告して下さい。
※報告１レスあたり、指定するURLは10個程度迄、それ以上は分割して下さい。

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涼実で止めて時間が来て解除して実況継続

【AKB】裁判員制度「サマヨイザクラ」【えろぽう】
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243684668/179,207,213
逆転裁判
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243686163/442,449
　電車
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243686176/100
えろぽう
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243686181/266

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報告　>>3-88

乙女ちん、スレタイの日付が微妙にズレてないかい？

>>90
どうもです

スレタイ修正します

【スレタイ修正】
★090531 morningcoffee TVドラマ「サマヨイザクラ」実況報告

【スレタイ修正】
>>91

【報告】
>>3-88

これ全部実況レスか？関係ないのはいってねーか？

どのレスかURL貼り出さなきゃ

一昨日の実況報告で水増し誤報告によってitsまで規制されてたからちと不安はある

とうとう始めるのね

そんなに実況やめさせたければ
試しに一度ＩＤ出してみればいいよ。多分、パタって止まるよ

>>94
一部しかチェックしてないがこの辺実況レスとは思えん

>>17
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243686181/1 2009/05/30 21:23:01.82 0
>>68
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243686181/48 2009/05/30 22:18:21.59 O

さすがに★持ちでもこの案は却下だろｗ

その名前欄で言われてもな

私が止めたのに再開しやがった
レスも続けてるしムカつくから報告したったって感じですかね

究極のぶっこ抜きだなｗ
このスレに書き込んだものはアク禁になりますってｗ

試験的に1週間くらいID出せるようにとかってできないんですかねぇ

これは…

今も実況スレがあるのに何でそれは放置なんだろ

このスレが掘られたら2ch革命だな。
規制議論板の存在意義に関わるよまじで。

ここがアウトなら明日から実況の通報合戦だからな。
過去1ヶ月以内の実況は全部通報な。
お前らもログ抑えとけよ。

>>107
やりましょうか

俺も手伝うぜ

つか昔はこんな感じのお止め案件が結構あった気がする

>>107-109
乙女だからこそだろｗ
名無しがやっても汎用却下がオチ

わんわんされてないな

狼の実況は悪質なんだし掘って規制すればいいんだよ
スレ立てた奴が悪い、実況する奴は問題無い、なんておかしい
コピペよりよっぽど悪質

「２ｃｈに対する迷惑行為」が本質なんだから
掘って規制すべきだね

すべき（笑）

おは乙女 ★さんここでわんわん申請してください
規制人より 交流戦はホ〜クス独走∩( ・ω・)∩マイッタ 芋67本目
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sec2chd/1243336399/

最近1週間ほどの実況報告スレを見て感じたことです。

状況を判断して止めてくれる人
シロップ＠お止め組。 ★
れんげ＠お止め組。 ★
天照＠お止め組。 ★
雑用＠お止め組。 ★

報告されたら何でも止める人
おは乙女 ★

実例（1時間で60レス程度の全く実害のないスレも昨日止めてました）
■ 辻希美＆木村拓哉 ■　　キズナ食堂　　■ 18:55〜TBS ■
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243677086/

運営の上層部の方は冷静で適切な対応をお願いします。
おは乙女 ★　のキャップ剥奪もご検討ください。

実況したけど俺たちは全然悪くない
★は剥奪せよとな

>>116
実況用のスレが立つだけで１つスレが落ちるという事もお忘れなく

>>116
「状況を判断」するも何も実況した時点で･･･

だからこその規制でしょ
この前の映画実況では止められては立て続けて２０〜３０スレぐらいあったでしょ
こんなバカな板は狼だけですし、一番悪質ですよ

狼って専用実況板持ってるのにね

>>121
http://live24.2ch.net/dancesite/
芸能chの事だよね

モ娘（狼）板は、モ娘以外の芸能人のスレ立てを止めて欲しい
雑談系でもVIPとか、格付けとかいろいろ有るのに、なんでモ娘（狼）板だけ使うのかな

雑談2に板違いなスレはありません
2ch全体のルールに反しない限り、何をやってもいいんです

>>123
その結果が、2ch全体のルールにも反してるんじゃないのかな
他の芸能人のファンスレを荒らしたり、テレビドラマ板のドラマスレで芸能人やファンの悪口ばかり
書き込んだり、ジャニヲタと、モ娘連中は社会のルールを考えなくていい事にはならないと思うけど

突撃荒らしがあったらそれ報告すれば

禁止にするなら全部禁止にしてください
通報したものしか止まらないのでは言ったもん勝ちです
ルールが実況禁止なら狼で行われている全実況を停止してください

実に面白い
狼ももうID有りの板にしてよ
落ち目過ぎるハロプロに複数板は必要ないし
羊と鳩はモ娘。とは別の芸能人板に変更してもいいから

狼は実況禁止でいいよ
クダラネー実況スレよりも雑談スレを盛り上げようぜ
何故なら俺の家は実況できるような配置をしていないから

実況板以外での実況禁止は2ch全体のルールなので規制対象でもいいんですが
今回の報告は精度が悪いようなので、この前のような
冤罪巻き添えが出ないか心配です。

今日のドラコンボール
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243726666/

わろた
規制議論板を狼の報告スレで埋め尽くすんですねわかります

http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243684668/2 2009/05/30 21:00:00.70 0
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243684668/4 2009/05/30 21:02:14.55 0
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243684668/5 2009/05/30 21:02:31.65 0
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243684668/7 2009/05/30 21:02:59.36 0
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243684668/11 2009/05/30 21:03:25.70 0

これ実況なの？
ぶっこ抜きにもほどありすぎ

三回止めて報告ですか。ふーん。
「報告」なら別にいいんじゃね。「報告」だろ。

「規制」する問題か如何かは「規制議論板」の何処で話があったんだっけ？
教えてちょ。
「運用情報板」での話は「運用」の話だろ。

★剥奪を検討してください

実況は通常の規制で解決する？しない？
実況しない利用者の利便性を謳いながら、巻き添えがより多数の規制を選ぶのは何故？

お止め★の人はリアルタイムの実況スレを停止する人で、
規制の表玄関にいる削除人★とは違うでしょ。
<<<悪質なコピペ荒しへの対応について>>>
http://www.2ch.net/accuse2.html
　　２　アクセス規制について

やほー解除しろ

>>135
意図的に実況するスレを立てる、などは、2chへの迷惑行為ですよね

実況板以外で実況するのは迷惑行為
掘れば良いんだよ

多分mickeyが速攻でわんわんして掘られる
そんな予感がひしひしと

>>135
巻き添えが多数になるかどうかは掘ってみないと判らない

【お止め組】涼実議論スレッド
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1239108177/
気持ちはわかるけど
ここでの議論が成熟してからやってほしかったなあ

削除人 ★の方、あるいはお止め組。 ★の方以外の方がわんわんされるようなら私が異議出しますよ。

>>141
まあ、、問題提起した、という意味では行動の意味はあるでしょ。
規制側が実況について考えるきっかけにはなる。

>>143
無いよ

MR.BRAIN、ザ・クイズショウも同じようにしたのに何故これだけ報告したのでしょうか？

>>143
問題提起としては良いのかもしれませんが・・・
上記スレでは巻き添えが出ない方向を模索していて、
巻き添えが発生する可能性が高い通常コースを選択するのは・・・

>>142
ν速のやつで異議だしとけよ・・・

>>142
異議の理由は？
それを語ることが大事ではないかと

>>146
巻き添えが出るかどうかは2chでコントロールできる問題ではないです
IP狙い撃ちで規制しても、可変ならば実効的には意味ないです。

正義の規制は巻き添えが出てもいい、ということで今の形で行われているのではなく、
できるだけ巻き添えが出ない、かつ、効果的に止める、ということで
今の形になっていると、私は理解します。

>>149
「じゃあこれこらはいらないよね」となってしまいますが
涼実議論スレではそんな流れでしたっけ？

>>146
巻き添えが出るかでないかは掘ってみないと判らないでしょ。

携帯やp2だったら、そもそも「こらこら団」だって効かないわけだし。
規制するかは別にして、一度掘ってもらうのもアリだと思うが。

規制に逃げるなら乙女なんてやめてしまえよ

>>152
逃げてないじゃん。

>>150
こらこらのスレで、こらこら導入の経緯を学ばれたらいいと思います。

>>151
報告されてるIDのほとんどが末尾"0"なわけですが・・・
経験上ピンポイントでいけるケースなんてほんのわずかです
BBQ登録所スレのテンプレを見てもらえばわかりますように、
固定IPは少ないですから

>>154
えっと
僕はこらこら団の一員なのですがw

>>153
なんのために掘るの？

>>148
現時点でわんわんされてないのに何に対して異議を挟むの？誰に対して語るの？
「わんわんされるようなら」という仮定の上で「その場合異議を挟むつもり」だと言ってるだけで、語るのはその時です。

>>155
ああ、そうだった。そこは見落としてた。すまん。

掘られたら必ず規制される、という前提みたいだけど
傾向を見る上では規制せずにまず掘ってもらうのも
ありだと思うけど？

巻き添え気にするなら規制自体止めればいいのに

>>155
ピンポイントでいけるかどうかは、掘ってみないと分かりません。
規制議論でも、末尾0の荒らしに対して、ピンポイントで規制をすることにはなっていませんから。

基本的に何か誤解していませんか？

>>159
>傾向を見る上では規制せずにまず掘ってもらう
それは絶対にやってはいけないことです

>>156
ええ、だからこそこらこら導入の経緯を学ばないとダメでしょうよ。

>>161
えーと
そのままお返ししますね

>>163
こらこらの適用範囲はご存じですか？
スクリプトを止めるためですよ
そのために導入されました
意思のある故意の荒らしは扱っておりません

その適用範囲を拡大するかどうかで、
連携スレで議論されていたと思うのですが

>>164
なるほど
理解しないままに道具を振り回したいということですね

>>166
はい？
私はわんわんしませんよ

掘ってみて〜って言ってる人は管理人がどういう方針だったかを理解したほうがいい

煽ってるだけでしょ

>>166
念のために伺っておきますが、
あなたが考えていらっしゃる「こらこら導入の経緯」とは？

僕の考え方と違っていたら考えを修正しなければいけませんので、
ご教示下さい

>>166
見苦しいからそろそろやめな坊や

>>161
掘ってみないとわからないってあんた…。
掘るってそういう安易なものじゃないだろ。ISPの利益にも関わる事なんだから。

>>170

>>165
>スクリプトを止めるためですよ

では、実況は「意思のある故意の荒らし」でしょうか？


こらこらのの範囲拡大はこらこらスレで話し合うべきことではないのでしょうかね。
涼実議論スレで話題になっているから云々、って
何かが変わるのでしょうかね？

かぶっている帽子をちゃんと確認してレスされたほうがいいのではないかと。

では。

IPで個人情報が出るわけじゃないけど安易に出せ出せ言うのはどうかと思うけどなあ

「掘ってみないと、掘るべき」みたいなレスするのって大抵アレだし

おは乙女って人もアレだけど

議論ができない人なのね

こう見ると普通の実況行為への対抗手段ってほとんど存在していないのな
お止めもあらかじめスレを日にちをおいて複数建てておけば乱立とは言えなくなるし
４つもあれば、スレスト→移動→解除→スレスト→移動でほとんど回避できるし

頭の痛い問題だ

うほっ

規制 → 報告メール → ISPからリアルに「こらっ！」

規制とISPへの報告はセットじゃないと意味ないとか誰か言ってませんでしたっけ。

>>179
言ってましたねえ

いやそもそも実況行為に対抗する意味がわからん
専門板ならともかく最低限の管理しかしないよっていう懲罰板なのに
それで板がめちゃくちゃになろうが板の責任だしね

なんかこらこら団対象と規制対象をごっちゃにしてるようだが。

規制されうるのは２ちゃんねるに対する迷惑行為。
（この板の対象云々は関係なく）

実況板以外での実況行為は２ちゃんねるに対する迷惑行為。

巻き添えが出るから云々とか意志がある投稿は対象外とか
なんか継ぎ接ぎに持ってきているけど、意志があっても迷惑行為なら
規制されるものは規制されるし、巻き添えが出るのは規制議論板では
毎度のこと。

実況（お止め組）は対象外ってのも、規制人が言ったわけでもないし。

こらこら団の時に、ニュー速での事例で答えた例があるけど、「あとで「おしおき」
できなくなるべ」ということは、個別のプロバイダ規制よりも強力な規制が
行われる可能性があるということ（板設定の変更とか）。
その方がいいわけ？

http://info.2ch.net/wiki/index.php?%A4%B3%A4%E9%A4%B3%A4%E9%2F%A4%B3%A4%E9%A4%B3%A4%E9%C3%C4

２ちゃんねるに対する迷惑行為
なんつーキナ臭い報告はしてほしくないな

>>183
きな臭い報告の結果ならここに沢山ありますよ。

http://qb5.2ch.net/sec2ch/

報告における「2chのため」なんざあくまで建前だと俺は思ってる
本気で2chのためとか思って報告してるならマジキチだ

板設定の変更とかしょっちゅうされてるわけでｗ
狼住民なら慣れてるよｗ

実況するのが当たり前、自治をする気もない
そんなアホな板はそれ相応の設定に変えてやればいいと思うよ
それこそ誰もいなくなるレベルに

でも運営側も誰もいなくなると困るんだよね
●販売のお得意様なんでｗ
その辺のバランスをとった絶妙な板設定だと思うよ

>>133
ここ数週間何度も何度もじみちに止めてましたよ
止めても止めてスレ立てられて実況継続されてましたし
そろそろ何らかの対策を講じるべきでしょう

そのために現在あちらのスレで話し合っているのでは？

地道にと言うけれど、こういう状況になってるにも関わらず今もやってる人がいる
要するに浸透してないんだよ
何らかの対策を講じる時が来たら大々的にキャンペーンしてくださいね

つうかね毎週立つ定番実況がスルーな時点でもうザルもいいとこ
特定スレだけ止めて仕事してますってなんかもうね

野球、大河、映画からドラゴンボール、ゴルゴまで実況してますから
すべて止めるなんて無理

>>192人手が足りないんだからそんな事いっちゃだめ

人手が足りないんだったら計画練ってやればいいじゃん
何この適当な狙い撃ち
他のお止め無視したスレは未報告だし
私怨と取られてもしょうがないだろ

お止め組ってわんわんできるの？

★がついていたら規制人はそのまま掘りそうなきがする

田舎者のポリスメンが渋谷（vipや狼）に来て人が多すぎてファビョッちゃった感じ〜

キリンカップサッカー２００９　日本×ベルギー
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243747604/

>>198
その例えが田舎臭いですねｗ

おは乙女が形勢逆転するまで出てこないつもりなんだがｗ

普通にスレスト活動してるぞ

ニュー速の実況スレは実際に規制したくせに今になってやっぱアレ駄目とか

ほれ仕事しろ
【21:00〜22:54】　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　日曜洋画劇場「イントゥ・ザ・ブルー/失われた財宝」
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1243768948/

狼は放置でいいよ

>>125
テレビドラマ板は、ドラマの事を書き込む板で、出演者、視聴率の悪口を
書き込みたいなら、テレビサロンを使えばいいのに

☆★☆ ドラマ視聴率2009年4月期 【80】 ☆★☆
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/tvd/1243690635/

このスレみたいに、絶対に止めない荒らしスレが有るのに、自治に意見を書き込んでも
ここは隔離板だからどんなスレ立ても自由だ、だからね、ここは止めなければ実況もするし

テレビドラマ板での、出演者、視聴率のアンチスレ立ては、モ娘（狼）、ＶＩＰの連中だろ、あと芸スポか
モ娘（狼）板での女優アンチスレと、テレビドラマ板の女優アンチスレは書き込み内容が同じだからね
雑談系、モ娘（狼）、ＶＩＰは荒らし発生用の板なのか？

>>205
放置されてるから迷惑なんだよ、テレビドラマ板に書き込みたいのに
女優やファン、視聴率叩きで見るのもウンザリするし、叩きに狼連中もいるんだろ

なんだこの脳内君はｗ
どんだけ見えない敵と戦ってるんだよ

こえーｗ

なんだ、勇み足だったのか
おもろないのぅ

別に報告するのはいいだろ

その先に進むかは別問題だ

立て逃げｗ

>>208
お前みたいな荒らしは気楽でいいよなｗ

AA板以外で2年間に1万レスもAAを貼り付けて、規制されるとは思わなかったって連中もいたし
もう荒らしは止めろや、思い当たるんだろｗｗ

一日平均13だろ
板によってはそう思っても不思議じゃないだろ

http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1239108177/804
>804 ：お止め組。総代＠いなむら ★ ：2009/06/02(火) 16:26:33 ID:???0
>おは乙女さんが何とかとか言ってる人は、
>おは乙女さんのどのような行動がどう問題なのか
>このスレできっちり問題提起してください。
>
>このスレの本来の用途はそれです（素

http://qb5.2ch.net/operate/kako/1087/10877/1087798184.html
> 52 名前： しぢみ ★ 投稿日： 04/06/21 16:37 ID:???
> >>46
> その辺は「実況禁止」自体が２ちゃんねるでどのような位置づけか
> 簡単に言えば、極悪? 大したことない? という話しと関連しますねぇ
>
> 電番投稿や、連投あらし、諸々 >>> 実況
>
> な気がします、問題ではあるけどクリティカルな問題ではない
> ただし、ほっておくととてつもない問題に発展するかもくらいかなぁ
>
> リモホ晒しとかはやらないでしょうねぇ

個人的変換

【夏の陣】実況を『根絶』する方法の考察・実験 Part1
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1087798184/52

結局誰もわんわんしてないんだよね

真っ当な措置だと思います

そのスレの999のマァヴ...

http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1236786533/909
意図的に説明をしない場合、状況によってはいきなりキャップを停めることもありえます。

実行部隊が議論するから変ナンだな。
お止め★は解除されたら又止める。
此の繰り返しをどんどんやる部隊なのだ。

過去ログ嫁でおｋか。

おｋ

一応報告したおは乙女氏は別スレで非を認めましたね
まあ当然て言えば当然ですけど

http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1242140131/812
>812 ：おは乙女 ★ ：2009/06/03(水) 01:18:19 ID:???P
>>>810
>先走った行動とってすみませんでした
>反省の意味を込めて活動自粛します
>
>>>800
>1規制系と連携と個別でスレを立てて規制してもらうのは違うと思っていたので
>2芋ほりスレに自分で報告したスレを持っていっていいのは削除人だけと思っていたので
>
>お止め組のみなさん自分の立てたスレのせいで議論が停滞してしまて本当に申し訳ありませんでした

ぷぎゃあああなのー

なにしたかったんだろう

単なる私怨
活動自粛中は運営や狼に名無しでいろいろ書き込んでるに違いない

http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1244088167/392
>392 ：もずく ◆AOeS/pO0ok ＠おは乙女 ★ ：2009/06/06(土) 21:34:44 ID:???P
>>>388
>二度は同じミスはしないぜ

自分本当に反省してるこんな先走った行動とって
生まれ変わった自分をみてください

一分で転載とかどんだけｗｗｗ

日本代表戦　次スレインフォメーションセンター
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1244282555/

久々にbe付けてみる。
散れ散れ、終わりじゃ。

犬いなむら特定するのやめてーー＞＜

特定する気なんざない。
普段ルールで名無しを追い払っているのだから、
己もルールを守りやがれ。って話だ。