Let's talk with Jim-san. Part4

Hi,Jim.

We live in LeafKey-Board.

We are made to embarrass by AnonymousDeleter ★.
AnonymousDeleter ★ frequently does a selfish Deletion.
He did not obey ◆79EROOYuCc's instruction.

Anonymous Deleter ★ caused a similar problem many times.
He has caused the acute problem three times or more up to now.
We are frightened to AnonymousDeleter ★'s oppression.
However, ◆79EROOYuCc doesn't dismiss him.

We hope to order to ◆79EROOYuCc to dismiss AnonymousDeleter ★.

>>923
I thought it was long enough, but I keep getting emails to make it longer.
I wish they would stop coming....;)

>>924
Yes I saw the Sakura at Narita airport a week ago. I wish I could have stayed longer
but I saw them when I was transfering airplanes....:)
Actually my first time to see them in Japan.
Some providers do not answer at all. I have even telephoned some
but no answer. I think the one your are complaining about might even
have a non working phone number.

>>926
Is there a part of the wiki that might pertain to this?
http://deleter.bbspink.com/

Jim-San

I am a resident from outbreak of a leaf-key board.

I understood the fact of a leaf-key board and kept deletion activity along it in mind.

However, 79 declares a stop of a deletion act as there is not a clear reason
and is not going to answer a request of repeated cancellation either.

May you talk with 79 once?

The reason of stop of deletion in leaf-key board is Anonymous Deleter ★'s arbitrary deletion.
Jim-san, I think you should not let someone to delete if he/she says
"I understood the fact of a leaf-key board and kept deletion activity along it in mind."
because, who say like this always do delition for own desire
so, the board become more confusing

>>930
>>931
I will discuss this with 79

By the way would you guys please try my new blog? I need some more testers
for it before we release it in Japanese.
http://blog.bbspink.com/home.php?user=jim-san

Jim-san

pinkちゃんねるにblogを作ったら、出会い系に利用される気がします。。。
せめて、Domainを変えて「管理者は同じですが、別のサイトです」という体裁を整えないといけないのではないかと思うのです。

>>933
I have thought about it a lot and I really want it to be blog.bbspink.com
it is exactly for bbspink users. I am happy that we are making it.
And I am having much fun testing it.

新しい kako log Server(RAID5 1.5TB) ってどうなってるんでしょう？
koko log の html への変換も再開してほしいです。

>>935
What a nice idea.

What a fantastic night.

>>937
Please tell me about your night. I would love to hear about a fantastic night.

Dear Jim
Always thank you for PINK.

>>939
Your welcome...:)
I am always thankful for pink too....;)

>>921

>>921It is back up

What do you think of Jim-san?

http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1160179595/744

>>943
Will someone please translate this post?

>>944
I found this in English. Makes sense they completed their mission.
Or ran out of money.
http://etc6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/entrance/1177605272/17/
I guess Leukemia has been cured.
We could find another project to join if people are interested in this.

>>945
私では、正しく翻訳することができません。
ごめんなさい。

>>943の正確な翻訳ではありません。

hiruyuki says:
「UDプロジェクトへの参加を呼びかけるスレッドには、GL5が適用されません」

UDプロジェクトは終了します。
Team2CHのメンバーは、次に参加するプロジェクトを探しています。

考えてください:
bbspinkの全ての板で、「次のプロジェクト」への参加を呼びかけるスレッドを作ることを許可してください。
「次のプロジェクト」への参加を求めるスレッドにはGL5を適用しないでください。

(in English)
I cannot translate correctly.
I'm sorry.

It is not an accurate translation of >>943.

hiruyuki says:
"GL5 is not applied to the thread that calls for participation in the UD project. "

The UD project ends.
The member of Team2CH is looking for the project in which it participates next.

Please think:
Please permit the thread that calls for participation in "The next project" to be made from all boards of bbspink.
Please do not apply GL5 to the thread from which participation in "The next project"
is requested.

Don't count your chickens before they're hatched.

今すぐに答えを出す必要はありません。
この事について興味をもち、この事について考え、この事について調べる時間を得ることができます。

It is not necessary to find an answer to a question right now.
It thinks about this thing with the interest of this thing, and time when this thing is examined can be obtained.

Sir,Yes Sir!

>>946 Thank you. It is a good idea to permit that.

>950

jim-san

I thank for your kindness

Yours sincerely,

>>951
Don't mention it. How about trying out our new blog? Probably it
will be ready to release in Japanese sometime next week. Still
a few bugs, but starting to work pretty good.
http://blog.bbspink.com/home.php?user=jim-san

>>Jim-san
これは機械翻訳です。

*「megami Thread」の多くの利用者の認識。
「self portrait」の「upload」と、「観客」との対話を楽しむ。
*被写体がuploaderでないならば、「upload Thread」と呼ばれる。

「megami 板」は「megami Thread」を集めた板であるという認識を持つ利用者が多い。
Greenday ★氏が「upload Thread」を「other board」から移動する事に疑問を感じる人達がいます。

私は「megami 板で話題にする Thread の範囲」を、「megami 板」の「自治 Thread」で議論して決められるか？

もしくは、「Greenday ★氏が移動したThread」を扱うようにルールを変更するべきか？


This is a machine translation.

*Recognition of a lot of users of "megami Thread".
It enjoys the conversation between "upload" of "self portrait" and "Spectator".
*If subject is not uploader, it is called "upload Thread".

There are a lot of users who have recognition that "Megami board" is a board that collects "megami Thread".
There are people who feel the doubt in the thing that Greenday ★ moves "upload Thread" from "other board".

Am I decided discussing "Range of Thread mentioned with the megami board" by "Autonomy Thread" of "Megami board"?

Or, to treat "Thread that Greenday ★ moved", should I change the rule?

>>953
Oh machine translation is so bad this time. I can not understand. Gomenasai.
Are you saying you want to make another board for upload and one for spectator?
Like sub board, or just more threads.
About the rules. If enough people want a new board with different rules it is ok with me,
but this is not the place to discuss new boards.

>>954
No. It is not a new board.

It is the question regarding the megami board.

The upload thread which is not the megami thread exists in the megami board.
Greenday ★ made move.

I think. The upload thread which is not the megami thread in the megami board is not appropriate.

We can propose that "type of thread which is handled with the megami board" is restricted?
　　example: "in the megami board it does not handle the upload thread".

Or, "Greenday * in order to be able to handle Thread which was moved", it should modify the rule of the megami board?

【雑】エロい野鳥観察part16【談】
http://sakura02.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/pinknanmin/1178269115/46

46 名前：名無しさん＠ピンキー[sage] 投稿日：2007/05/06(日) 04:07:53 0
Many users of the Megami board think as follows.
* Megami is a person who up-loads own photograph.
* The Megami board is a place that we speak with Megami.

Uploader is a person who simply opens the picture to the public..
We think that Megami not equal Uploader.

But, Greenday moved the Uploader's thread to the Megami board.

Should we change the usage of the Megami board?
Or, can the usage of the board be decided by the discussion?


翻訳ありがとう m(_ _)m >>野鳥のｴﾛい人

>>956
I understand this completely! Thank you for your explanation.
Yes uploader and Megami are not the same thing. Uploader could be anyone that
copied and pasted or scanned a picture or video to their own computer.
Megami is someone that is interested in sharing their personal experience and self
with the world.
The two are not the same. Even though in order to share with the world Megami have
to use an uploader. They are not what I would consider uploaders.
I think that it might be a mistake to move the uploader board from its current
location to the Megami board.
I can understand why it was moved there though.
Lets discuss if their is a more appropriate place for the uploader thread.

自分が撮影した写真をアップロードする人はMegamiではありません。
自分を撮影した写真をアップロードする人がMegamiです。

私は移動されたスレッドの利用者です。
同様に、私はmagami板の利用者です。
私はスレッドがmagami板に移動された事に困惑しています。

そのスレッドは、テンプレートにアップローダーの説明がある事を理由に、megami板に移動されました。
しかし、そのスレッドはmagami板では適切ではないと感じています。

現在のmegami板のルールは曖昧です。

私は、自治スレッドで話し合って決めたルールを提案できますか？
(例えば、Megamiスレッド以外のアップロードスレッドはMegami板に移動しないルール)

それとも、「Greenday ★氏が移動したThread」を扱うよう、ルールを変更するべきですか？


The person who up-loads the photograph that I took is not Megami.
The person who up-loads the photograph in which it took a picture of
me is Megami.

I am a user of the moved thread.
Similarly, I am a user of the magami board.
I have been perplexed to the thing that the thread is moved to the
magami board.

The thread was moved to the megami board because of the thing that there is the uploader's
explanation in the template.
However, I feel the thread the magami board is not appropriate.

The rule of a present megami board is vague.

Can I propose the rule that is talked by the autonomy thread and decided?
(For instance, the up-loading threads other than the Megami thread are rules
that do not move to the Megami board. )

Or, to treat "Thread that Greenday * moved", should I change the rule?

最終決定をするのはJimさんになる問題なのかもしれません
でも、この問題はまだその段階にはないと思います（話が進まないｲﾗｲﾗはわかりますが・・・）
個人が適当にこのスレにもってくるのは混乱のもとになるだけだと思います
（一部の意見をもとに裁定・それに近いものが出てしまったりすると
議論がもっと混乱する恐れが高いと思います、まとまると思ってるのかも知れませんが・・・）

Jim-san maybe make final dicision on this problem,
but, I think this problem is before that phase(discussion is not matured).
I think bring problem arbitrarily in this thread in bad English(me too) makes problem more confused.

Megami板は運営(Jim-san & Greenday-san)の都合によって作られた特殊な板です。
また、ローカルルールも利用者に事前の通知や説明もなく、「運営の都合」により追加されました。
Greenday-sanは、板設立当初は積極的に自治に参加していました。
しかし、今では呼び出さなければ現れません。

Megami板は今でも特殊な存在ですか？
もし「運営の都合」を優先する特殊な板ならば、きちんと管理をしてください。
他の板と同様に、自治が認められた普通の板であるならば、住人がルールを決め、自治を行います。

私はこのスレッドは「誰でも気軽に」Jimさんとお話ができるスレッドだと思っていますので、個人で気軽に疑問に思った事を質問しています。

The Megami board is a special board made from the convenience of management (Jim-san & Greenday-san).
Moreover, the user had neither a prior notification nor the explanation also by a local rule, and it was added by "Convenience of management".
As for Greenday-san, the board establishment positively participated in autonomy at first.
However, it doesn't appear if it doesn't call it now.

Is the Megami board still special existence?
Please manage neatly if it is a special board to which it gives priority to "Convenience of management".
If it is a usual board where autonomy is admitted as well as other boards, the resident decides the rule, and autonomy is done.

Because I think that it is a thread that can talk about this thread with Mr. "Everyone is light-hearted" Jim, it questions on the thing readily privately doubted.

都合のいい言質とりたいだけだろｗ
英語書き込むならちゃんと読み返せよ、無茶苦茶すぎるぞ

>>961
都合の悪い選択肢もきちんと書いているが？
無茶苦茶なのが判るほど堪能なんなら、正しく翻訳してくれ。

どうみたって裁定求めてるんだろ？
それなら話し合ってからやれってんだよ
何がお話だよｗ馬鹿がでしゃばると混乱するって言ってるの

┐( ´ー｀)┌

>>963
look at the mirror.

>>958
Which thread? I need to know which thread you are talking about, that would help a lot
>>959 You got that right....;)
>>960 I am sorry I am not light hearted anymore. How can anyone be light hearted
when Paris Hilton is going to jail?

>>965
http://sakura02.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/housekeeping/1169945367/765
http://sakura02.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/housekeeping/1169945367/871

Is the rule of the Megami board decided by the user discussing it?

When we made the Megami board. The threads that had to do with Megami were supposed to
be moved there. Unless they did not violate the local rules where they currently were,
or there were no complaints.
For Greenday to be moving it, must have been some complaint about violating the local
rules.

Why was the thread moved to not the ascii board that handle the image whole but the megami board?
What is the difference between the ascii board and the Megami board?

>>969 Why are you asking me this? I think that we have made enough places to post
complaints and deletion requests. Was this thread posted on housekeeping?
I think so, since that is where I saw the link.
That would have been the perfect time to ask these questions.
Our deletion team is doing a great job, and they can't always make the decision
that will please everyone. They should be proud of being a deleter though
and if they make a decision. Even if it is a mistake. We should be happy they
are helping removing the crap that can clutter very good boards and threads.

>>970
私はMegami板にスレッドを作るべきか？
それとも、Ascii板に作るべきか？
判断の基準がわかりません。
不明瞭な基準を明確にしたくても、それは判断する人(Greenday)にしかわかりません。
私はスレッドが移動される前に基準を知りたい。
もう少し詳しい基準を、行動ではなく言葉で示してほしい。

Should I make the thread on the Megami board?
Or, should I make it on the Ascii board?
The standard of the judgment is not understood.
Even if it wants to clarify an indistinct standard, only person (Greenday) who judges it understands it.
I want to learn the standard before the thread is moved.
I want you to show a detailed a little more standard in not the action but the word.

私はスレッドが移動された事に文句を言っているのではありません。

曖昧なMegami板のルールを、利用者が容易に理解できるものに変更したいと願っています。

もう少し明確な基準を教えてほしい。
または、Greenday-sanから基準を提示するよう指示してほしい。
もしくは、私たちが自治スレッドで話し合って決める許可がほしい。


I am not to complain to the thing that the thread is moved.

It wishes that the rule of a vague Megami board be changed to the one being able to understand that the user is easy.

I want you to teach a clear a little more standard.
Or, I want you to direct that the standard is presented from Greenday-san.
Or, I want permission for us to talk by the autonomy thread and to decide.

誰か訳してくれない？

http://sakura01.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/megami/1169999070/822
>822 ： ◆79EROOYuCc ＠Greenday ★ ：2007/01/31(水) 03:59:41 ID:???0
>女神の定義についてですけれども、
>ローカルルールにある基準でいいと思います。
>「自分を見せたい人と、見たい人が集まる板」　です。

http://sakura01.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/megami/1170227776/79
79 ◆79EROOYuCc ＠Greenday ★ 2007/01/31(水) 23:58:20 ID:???0
>>66 ビップさん
私の女神スレの理解なのですが、本人が撮影していなくても、彼氏とか友だちとか
そういう人が撮影した画像も含んでいると思います。

もう少しまとめますと、被写体の了解が明らかにとれている画像のアップです。
被写体の了解がない画像（再アップ画像含む）や、アップロードする人に著作権がない画像は、
この板で語るものとしては、適切ではないと思います。

うｐする本人に肖像権が無いスレッド

姉・妹・嫁・愛人・彼女の下着等をうｐするスレ11
http://sakura01.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/megami/1174801902/
【中身】姉・妹・嫁・愛人・彼女等をうp11【歓迎】
http://sakura01.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/megami/1173886711/
【激萌 Part226】彼女のヌード写真見せて
http://sakura01.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/megami/1178268859/

著作権と肖像権を同一視してるのは意図的なものか？
流れが女神スレに似た状態になっていて、スレッドのテンプレートもそれを推奨していたので移動された。
厳密には女神ではないけど近い趣旨の板ということでデリーターの裁量の範囲内。

>>974のスレッドが板違いなら削除依頼を出して、駄目ならその後で議論をすればいい。
もし単に基準をはっきりさせたいだけなら、削除判断の積み重ねがそのうち基準になる。
そんなのはどの板も同じ。

>>975
彼女スレのテンプレートなんて、もろ半角寄りだと思うんですが。

＞厳密には女神ではないけど近い趣旨の板ということでデリーターの裁量の範囲内。
君の妄想じゃない？
>>973
＞79 ◆79EROOYuCc ＠Greenday ★ 2007/01/31(水) 23:58:20 ID:???0
＞>>66 ビップさん
＞私の女神スレの理解なのですが、本人が撮影していなくても、彼氏とか友だちとか
＞そういう人が撮影した画像も含んでいると思います。
＞
＞もう少しまとめますと、被写体の了解が明らかにとれている画像のアップです。
＞被写体の了解がない画像（再アップ画像含む）や、アップロードする人に著作権がない画像は、
＞この板で語るものとしては、適切ではないと思います。

半角って基本はどっかからリンクを見つけてきて書く板だろ
盗撮画像という点では女神じゃないけど、スレの流れは完全に女神スレと同じ
Jimさんも>>957で「女神とうｐは同じではないけど移動したのも理解できる」って言ってるだろう

後の細かい話はここでやっても意味が無い
>>973>>974みたいなのを削除議論スレに書いてから、GreenDayさんを呼び出してくれ
理屈としておかしいわけじゃないから返事はしてくれるだろ

>>978
そもそも女神板（仮）の利用者である住人の認識している
自我鳥の女神行為と、本人以外が撮影した彼女の画像のうｐとは
ジャンルが違うのをなぜ認めようとしない？

そもそもスレチな話題です。
他でやって、結論もってきましょう。

JIM-SAN
DON'T BE ANXIOUS.
PLZ DEMAND EXPLANATION FROM 79-SAN.
WAY, THE LARGE MAJORITY AGREES TO THE 79-SAN'S INTERPRETATION.

Next Thread.

Let's talk with Jim-san. Part5
http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1178546129/

1にアップローダーのURLがあったら笑えたな

って英語で書こうと思ったけど全然わかんね＞＜

>>980
Ouch! my ears are hurting. please wait a little while. It will be good.

>>974　のスレッドは、女神板向きではないです。
私の間違いです、どうもすみませんでした。

私の認識としては、>>973　から変わっていません。
被写体の了承が明らかにとれている画像のアップです。

この3本のスレッドをどうするかについては、以下でやりましょう。

megami：女神 [削除議論]
http://sakura02.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/housekeeping/1176051253/


>>974　threds are not for megami bord.
I did mistake, I apporlogize.

my official position on the question of megami threads is >>973, not changed.
ppl who wants to upload pictures which are taken by themselves or
pictures which photogenic subject agree with taking them.

and about dealing with those 3 thereads,
I'd lile to talk on fo0llowing threads

megami：女神 [削除議論] deletion discussion of megami board
http://sakura02.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/housekeeping/1176051253/

>>Jim-san
(機械翻訳を通すととんでもない事になる気がするので、日本語で失礼します)

>>943-950
UDプロジェクトに参加していたTeam2chのメンバーは、BOINC等を利用して
WCG(World Community Grid)のプロジェクトに移行しはじめています。

・World Community Grid
　http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/index.jsp?language=en_US
・BOINC (grid computing software)
　http://boinc.berkeley.edu/index.php
・Team 2ch Wiki(日本語)
　http://team2ch.info/

プロジェクトへの参加を求めるスレッドに対し、特別のご配慮を頂き、
誠にありがとうございました。m(_ _)m

以下は、現在のTeam2chの参加するプロジェクトに関するスレッドです。

【BOINC/WCG/F@H】難病を救え！233【Team2ch/UD】
http://etc6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/entrance/1178474419/

>>985
I really would like to participate in this, but I do not understand how to join
the team2ch, or if you guys want to make a PINKちゃんねる
Either way does not matter to me. It is a good cause if they really use it for
the intended purpose. Sometimes I am a little paranoid about things like that.
They say they are working on the cure for aids, but really they could be working
on a massive market trend report for a major corporation and nobody would know.

If the PINKちゃんねる are joining team2ch, then please teach me how to join team2ch
also.

If the PINKちゃんねる want to make their own team, someone needs to take charge
of that, because I am a little sick today.