Hi! I'm Robert Kim writing from South Korea. I fucking love Japanese culture, Susi, Harakiri, Hentai-anime, Tekoki, Yasagure and so on. But I can't make myself favorite only for the textbook issue because it almost consists of so many mistakes and/or prejudices, I heard.
Are you realy South Korean? Writing from South korea? I beliave for the present. It's my pleasure that you love Japanese calutuer.
So I'm intrested in that you dislike Japanese textbook. Would you tell me more what you think aboutJapanese textbook? What kindof textbook? what you meant by "mistakes and/or prejudices"? Did you read some of Japanese textbok or Just heard about it?
>>97 I might say I'm living in a certain city in South Korea, is not so far from the East Sea. Well, I did write about the history textbook of Japan, which is to be used among a lot of class rooms of Japanese junior high school. I think it makes sense that the Japanese gov't is willing to go back to the WWII. What I want to say is that we must beat Japan storongly not to be occupied again. Any question?
>>100 Japan never invade Korea again, Because we are no longer interested in Korea Now, our target is China. But we won't use guns or tanks to enter China. Our weapons are Jananese Yen and high quality cheap prducts.
I'd like to say one thing: Japanese goverment does not write the history text books. It only authorizes to publish the texts. There are several privetely owned companys that write text books. This means if a school chooses to use the text, only then that text is used in that school. To my knowledge,there aren't any schools yet to use the much dibated textbook. I'm not sure though.
>>102 YOU FUCKING GUY! Don't you know Korea is the most superior nation in the world??? For instance, English language is designed by Korean. Every children in Korea knows that. I didn't realize by now that Japanese people has so small brain. HAHAHA.
Thanks for you reply me. I live in Tokyo, very hot town in summer.
First of all I want to tell you even if there is some discriminatory writings, please don't care of them. They who wrote discriminatory writings are member of very small section in Japan. I want to talk about many things with you. We Japanese have a little chance to talk with Korean directory.
I understand you said "textbook" as textbook of history this time. I will write down here how I think about textbook of history of Japan.
What I have to say about textbook in Japan is that a school textbook isn't compiled by government in Japan. There are many(5~7) textbooks of history for one grade in junior high. Many publishing companys make textbooks based on their standpoint, then they have to take official exsamination to make thier textbook be approved by the Ministry of Education.
In official exam, Ministry of Education check them. They make publishers correct their textbook only if there is mistake on an obvious fact. They don't make them correct from natinal historical view. So, there is many textbooks of history, and they have thier own viw of history. There maybe One or some textbook can't make you satisfied, but thereis no help for it.
I think it's not strange Japanese people doesn't have adequate ability for using English because we don't need use it in daily life . Actually we don't have it , so we need to make chances to use it as many as possible. I wanna say, don't be coward to use English.
I know I'm not good at English as masters on this board, who are very rare. But It's not the point at issue. The point is the terrible appearance of this board and why thread llike this don't grow longer evrytime.
I know there are masters on this board. They are very good at English as they show us their command of English on threads for translating always. Especially to request for translating English into Japanese, not only masters but many people try to answer them and most of them put right answers on. But they don't post writings to thread like this in English.
I want them show us their command of English in writings here. They must good at wrinting too, I believe. They may make mistakes too, but that's a small matter. It's important that if they write down here long and meanfull writings on this thread this thread will grow longer and fool guys cannot post meanless and discriminatory writings sometimes they including even 4 charactor words. It must be good for this board too.
That's what I wanted to say. If you are one of masters, please post what you think about this thread and correct me.
>>161 Personaly, I don't have too much interest in putting messages in English here as it seems to me some sort of weird masterbation. No one cares for what I say, and even less corrects my mistakes. So, it does little to improve my English skill. If you realy want to practice your writing, the place you must go is the board, where real English speakers are talking, but not here. If you read through this thread from the top to the bottom, you surely notice that there's no meaningful exchange of messages but disgusting four letter words and insults, which, I believe, annoys anyone who realy cares for real communication. I for one go around to the threads like "request for translation" if I want useful time in staying in this board.
>>164 Well, I understand you. What you said is true. But I 'm very intrested in what you said on this thread.
First of all, I don't have intention to practice writing in English here. I have to write documents in English in my daily work. It's very tough for me that I have to do that even if there are many mistakes in my wrtings. So, I practice English hard in other place and time. And I want to enjoy talking and discussing various things in English here. Please don't care of me.
Of course it is good for you to answer requests on thread for translation. I don't get in the way of it. But I'm happy if you and masters post many and long and meanfull messages on this thread. They must drive disgusting masseges away.
I'm the same university student as Hirosue Ryoko. I think she is so crazy. She doesn't go school,and the night goes to night club. Then she makes one night love and does one night sex. She think a sex partner is anybody ok. SO she is as if cat at heat. I'm so shamful of her doing at the position of the same university student. Owing to her my university level and reputeation is go to the hell. What is the best way which we exclude her from my university???
How silly you are.... I know the English level of this thred. I'm disgusted at your behavior. I use only easy English... I never come here again. Bye silly people.
>>186 >Bye silly people. I think here is no more than just one "Chu-Bo" who is attacking you. You must ignore an "Aori". This is one of the most basic social rule in 2ch. If you don't know that rule, you are the silly one.
I can correct your English at the opposite of you. For example, it is better that this "YOUR" is to "OUR". This is rather a speech defect than a English mistake. It is shameful to mistake such a short sentence.(laughs
Stop insulting each other. What do you want to improve in talking bad over each other's mistakes. If you want to correct someone's mistakes, Please do it in the way of advice, not personal insults. Both of you have already proven well enough how far some sort of person can degrade himself.
thanks for asking about AUS, well it has got more land and green and probably better climate. peaples are easy going and most of them are lazy, i like that part. and it has got heaps of multiculuturaly defferent background people living together, so u 'll see some sort of discriminations.
but i reckon, that japan has almost everything eccept,,,, what u think for that? pls may i have a your say?
Since this country is island, most of Japanese are genuin nationalities, when your country has many kinds of race and nationalities. So what we don't have is a sence of cultural tolerance toward other country may be. But I'm not sure about that. Or,I might have to point out that the generousness we might ought to have.
>>207 Hello,Mr.Aus! Can I call you Mr.Aus on this thread? If you stay anonymous, I feel uneasy when I ask you something or talk to you. Of course If you have your hadle name, please use it. Would you post message here with handle name please? You are a special on this thread.
I have many question I want to ask about Austraia, but I have no time to do that today. I' do that someday.
Hajimemashite minna san. bokuwa americajin desu. yoroshikune~.nihongo kentei level1 no benkyoshimasu. nihonjin tomodachi hoshii desu. hello i am from NYC. i think this BBS is very funny. I like video games like: AOC,Unreal,Quake,Cossacks ect... My dream is to live and work in Japan. I am a computer programmer (VB,VC,ASP,jscript). If anyone wants to play any online games with me please let me know. Does anyone in Japan like computer programming as much as I do? What computer language is popular in Japan? I've been to Yokohama, Sendai,Hakone,Tokyo (aoyama). I love Japanese food, oensen and temple. Has anyone been to NYC?
I must admit my written English is not perfect. I guess it’s due to a lack of a college education hahaha. But I assure you that I am every much American. I know this because the IRS takes 1/2 my paycheck every week haha. Other than that I am every tactful and generally a very nice person.
>>maigono gaijin It doesn't matter you're real American or not. But If you cannot write intresting things in sophisticated English, you' never treat as an American on this boad. I also think that is most important what you say in your messages.
But you can prove that you post messages from NYC America in following way. Write "fusianasan"in a section of name, where you had written "maigono gaijin", then your IP adress will appeares there of your messages as I did.
Of course there is some of risks and you had not better to do that if you take static global IP adress(I don't know how I express that in English correctly but you may get what I say). That is going to prove at least that you post your messages from NYC America.
But of course if you will post intresting messages in English many times, you will be a special member on this board naturaly. It doesn't depend on your nationalty. I think this is the better way to do.
Hey there, Maigono Gaijin. Welcome aboard. I hope you're not discouraged by some of the replies you've received so far.
So you're not the greatest typist in the world, but other than that, your "grammar" sounds like a typical American to me. That's a funny line about the IRS taking half your paycheck.
By the way, did you see "Planet of the Apes" yet? I just went today and had a fairly good time. A couple of plot holes.... Such as, if there's only humans and apes in this place, where did the horses come from? Where are the other animals, such as dogs, cats, birds, mosquitoes, etc.? Just something to nitpick, y'know.
>> Zorro Hey Zorro, How are ya? I read your post. Yeah the replies that I’ve gotten are quite daunting…err…but…. subsequently I’ve come to hope for the best but expect the worst from people. In doing this I am never surprised. I went to see "Planet of the Apes" on the day of the first showing. The last part of that movie was the most confusing. “Did he make it back to earth or was he on that same planet? And if returned to the same planet then was the planet really earth? Can human and Ape have sex?” I don’t think I will get the answer to these questions. The action and costumes were cool. Estella Warren is a good actress. Did A.I remind you of the Japanese comic Astro Boy? >>All “can’t we all just get along?”
>>216 http://www.unreal.com/ http://www.cossacks.com www.aoc.com you'll need to buy the games to play online untill then you can try the demos first If you like basic card games then you can goto yahoo.com and play aganist people from all over the world. "can't we all just get along" is a line from the "Planet of the Apes" movie. Did you see Final Fantasy yet? I like the new L'arc en Ciel song at the end.
Plese tell me the result of erection. I live in foreign country, so I don't know a lot about it. I know that LDP(Liberal Democratic Party) has won the more than half of seats. I expecially want to know the reaction of Asahi newspaper,TV and F##king Kume.
Why is Asahi newspaper so criticized? Certainly Asahi is also criticized on another board. I don't know about it because I am not familiar with politics.
becouse they are so hypocrite,for example just most easy one, when WW2 was going on,asahi was completely on goverment side but now they dont even refer about that and behave like a left wing which alwas against war.
sometime they make a mistake but hardly admit ther fault and even when they have to aporogize,they do very reractantly. basicly all news paper is like them but asahi is too goody goody. that is why many people hate asahi.they are to childish.
>>234 Hi! Maigono gaijinn san. Final Fantasy the movie have't released yet in Japan. We don't know about the detales of the movie. You made me know that the new song of L'arc en Ciel is used at the last of the movie. I'm looking foaward to see the movie.
By the way, I wanna ask you that A.I make a hit in the U.S.? In Japan it have a poor reputation. I'm intrested in the movie becouse of its script is written by Stanly Cubric(I don't know I spelld out his name correctly or not, sorry) .Could you tell me how do you feel about the movie?
240 san, I fully agree with you. Asahi is the biggest hypocrite among today's journalism in Japan. Their history is full of sins, and disgrace to decent journalism and crimes, they have committed not only during the war but since then to this day. For an instance, how Asahi could justify in their propaganda that North Korea was a heaven on the planet, and this was the place to go for the residents from Korea in Japan. Now we all know very well they are living in a hell on the planet, in a real one. Not a few of them made up their mind to go to the hell, believing in Asahi's shit. They wrote on the paper not the fact but what they wanted to believe as usual. And the similar case has been repeated again and again. Do you anyone notice a tiniest bit of article on the paper that they admit their fault. They never admit, and pretend they are always right. Hypocrite as they are, they are pretending they are on the side of ordinary, or depressed people, keeping them from the abuse of the power while a fact is that they are the power, evil power if I may, as they cannot look back on themselves and correct their faults. In a way the attitude among some of us toward Asahi is similar to that of Rush Limbaugh when he ridicules New York Times or Wall Street Journal, however, in the case with Asahi, it is based on far more solid facts.
>>maigono gaijin I think the ending of Planet of the Apes was deliberately vague because they're already thinking SEQUEL. Personally, I think he should have stayed where he was. He had it good, with two babes after him and he'd just stopped a whole war by himself!
Your other question. Are you asking if humans and apes can have children together, or just have plain ol' sex. I suppose if two intelligent lifeforms are creative enough, anything is possible. Ha ha ha. They can't have offspring without some Herculean feats of genetic engineering. It has always bothered me how science fiction shows have different species easily breeding "mixed" children. (Star Trek, for example.)
I haven't seen A.I. yet, but I heard about it from a friend. Yes, I see the parallel to Astro Boy in two things: building android copies of deceased children, and the rejection by his parents. The movie is based on a Brian Aldiss short story, from the sixties. I wonder if he saw Astro Boy???
I think Japanese economy is critical condition. Big company achievement of maker (NEC,SONY,FUJITU,MATUSHITA...)go down . And the employee restructuring be done. I think Japanese can't be revival.
I think the revival of USA is owing to Pregident Clinton. Koizumi isn't such a clever primeminister. Koizumi became not to be bold when he became a primeminister. He lost his violence. Koizumi, please recollect of his violence or his cleverness.
>>251^255 I wanna know the opnion of maigono gaijinn about this issue. Would you post your opinion about economy of the U.S and Japan, Mr.maigono gaijin, please? Do you American think it is owing to ex.Pregident Mr.Clinton? And how do you feel Primeminister Koizumi is?
>> 241 Did A.I make a hit in the U.S.? yes For 2 weeks it was in the top 10 list of good movies. I really enjoyed it a lot but I liked F inal Fantasy better. A.I seems to cover the stages of life of a person who did not receive love from mother. I can go into that more if you want. I watch a lot of Japanese drama here in the states. Can you recommend any Japanese move that’s good?
>>256 The only thing I know about America’s economy is that it’s not doing well. The news reports show that people from many industries are being laid off from work at a rapid rate. I don’t have the means or the knowledge to decipher if Mr. Clinton or anyone else is at fault for this. The world is too big for me to understand what is going on and why things happen. If I try to understand or make any “educated” guess on the world’s state of affairs I’ll get a headache “itai!” So I tend to focus on fun things like programming, video games, and my dream of someday living in Japan. If I lose my job and I am unable to find another I shall only blame myself for not studying hard enough. In fact I am going after all the certifications I can and even returning to school to study Japanese and computers. The Nihongo Kentei level 1 is hard so I need all the help I can get. I can’t say anything about Prime minister Koizumi but he looks like movie star. Didn’t he say mean thing about homeless people? So sorry I can’t give you any good opinion. If I was in Japan I would forget about the world and goto hakone haha.
>>253 I think it's too naive to attribute the recovery of the U.S. economy to Mr.Clinton solely, and in my opinion - dead wrong. I cannot come up with anything useful or helpful to the economy among the things Mr.Clindon had done during his presidency. At best he didn't give much damage to it. (Though there must remain the controversial opinions whether his efforts to decrease the budget deficit was helpful to the overall economy.) We saw the dramatic turn-around of the U.S. economy coincided with the presidential inauguration of Mr.Clinton, however, considering the time factor, required for any policy to take effect, it's more logical to think the success owes to something initiated by his predecessor. There must have been various factors that helped the U.S. economy, and I think one of them is the collapse of Japanese economy, I mean "Burst of the economic bubble of Japan" , which pushed the money out of Japan and directed it to the U.S. After decline of the Japanese economy, we saw the dramatic change of the capital f low, and the U.S. market began gathering the money from all over the world, picking up the momentum, especially into then fledgling New Economy sector. I personally think Mr.Clinton was just a lucky president, who happened to be a president at the right place and at the right moment.
i was actually suerpurised that all your english is f---ing great! as i see a lot of overseas students are struggling their english these day. anyway it's nice to know you all.
>Did he make it back to earth or was he on that same planet? And if returned to the same planet then was the planet really earth? Can human and Ape have sex?<
i have not seen the movie yet, but i think it's cool. and as i wacthed the tv show called who's aping who? we can not make love with apes. i mean u can have a sex with them, but actually u can not create fertilization. well,,,it is just kind of rules of this earth,,, u know.
in addition, i atill make a lot of mitakes and am a terribile at spelling as well,so pls do not point too much each other.and i do not get any troubles at all in my dairy life. pls...and ta in advance! and nana means seven in japanese, doesn't it? so i made my handdle name its calls nana right? i reckon nana is lucky number as we oz has favourites of 4. oki-doki and sayonara.
Hi! nana. Welcom to this board.I'm very happy you join us.
I feel "nana" is nice handle-name. Yes, it means seven in Japanese and we think it lucky number. It may bring you luky things. But I don't know why we think it lucky number.
So, " Planet of the Apes" the movie have been released in Aus? Does it make hit? I'm going to see it this weekend. I'm looking forward to see it much.
At last, Could you tell me why do Australian like "4" , if you know?
>>maigono gaijin Thank you for you reply me! Well, I wanna have much time to go to see movies. I wanna see A.I. too. But no time to see it.
I wanna talk to you about Japanese movies. But I don't know them well. Have you see "the Prinscess Mononoke", animation movie of Hayao Miyazaki? I think it best Japanese movie in recent yeares. And his new movie "Sen to Chihiro no kamikakusi" have been released now. It makes a smash hit in Japan. I haven't seen it, but I'm going to see it in this summer.
I'll write about economies next time. Writing in English makes me a little tired. This message is long enough to make me so.
>>263 I have been given informal assurances of employment on graduation. Company name is NEC system integration and constraction. I study manegement information system. You can think I am studing computer system. I am enployed for systems engineer. That company let me take a TOEIC test. But,my score is 235.I want to acheve 450 score in TOEIC. Because, If I become a chief enginner ,I need 450 score in TOEIC. I am master's cose student. Now a day, Japaniese avarage score which garuated from university,is 450-500. I think my week point is low TOEIC score. Because,I go to Lingerphone academy. It is make me happy.Because,I have leisure. so,I confined to my room. If I leave this,I will be go mad.
Oh, nana, you know how Mr. Spock is born. He is a product of human and Valcun marriage. Since we can have children with guys from outer space, why can't we have children with earth monkeys? If you want to know more about extraterrestrial love and marrages, watch Rosewell or Lexx.
>>274 It doesn't matter. Don't care about it and Join us! If you post your message on this thread in English, you can make friends in no time. We don't care your nationality. Come on!
I want to hear One thing from the most people as I can. What is One thing? One thing is what is your life?
I think the life is so precious and so valuable. Sometimes I see some people who work hard and don't enjoy his or her life. I want to talk to him or her why he or she suffer from some events. Life is for enjoy yourself. If you are so sad or feel in a hard lot, you should throw away all. I think so.
It is rather natural than it. Human should come back to their original old style life.
Waz up yall? Anybody wana speak 2 a man whoz got a nice ass? I know all of yall like asses. Men or Women, we all love nice ass. Ya know Y? Itz da animal instinct! After all, we are still part GOD part Beast. :)
God created us all! It is wrong to discreminate someone caz of her/his religious preference! I think religion suck ass! In da US, the most segregated institution is da church! I ain't talking bout da church's chicken!
God's followers should never discreminate anyone! So why do they discreminate againt each other? Because their beliefs are not one that was created by God's will but Man's will!!
うぉ・・・ぅ I don't know much about such churchs discreminates with color or something but, But there are so many religious today. Even in Japan, there wouldn't be any villeges or towns where they don't have any religious institutions. Some might be rotten things. But I know there are some good, ideal church that don't discriminate others. I cannot tell here those church's name though.
>>311~318 You guys! This in English only thread. If you wanna post your messages in Japanese, post to other threads. If you wanna post to this thread, in English please.
>>318 If you say "I want a girl", it sounds to me that you want a help for a certain kind of work that requires a feminine hand from one person. Or, may be, under certain circumstances, you want one girl who you really want or will be able to fall in love with.
Im really surprised to have seen this thread of english only again came up. because actually i was the one who set up that thread. i just wanted to have a opportunity to write english as a regular basis for my own good. and thats why i set up english only thread. but as far as i see these bbcs, i know there are lots people who need the place where they can output what theyve leanred. besides nova sucks.
the ape movie will releae on next thursday.i saw the pre-movie show. it gonna be big hits in aus for sure. i saw a movie called down to earth, which was really cool.i love black comedy. cris rock is great. he is the one who never tried the black jork in while people. right? i reckon that one is to worth to wacth it. but unfortunently the movie moves are a bit different from jap aus. we are always behind jap. well some are coming early.
number 4 is believeng ,,,,,,,,,,,,,sorry, i am not sure. i mean i do not care much.
why do they discreminate againt each other? I think religion suck ass!
↑i strongly agree with this!!!! see the world, then u can see who's still fighting!!! but i like your yamato damashii best.
in short, i would like ask u guys...... why do jap politician or media push too much on another??? i think there are a lot more issues u should make the priority than the yasukuni issue and school the text issue and so on. ms makiko seems to be left wing and aggro. uh..........n. i'm better off now. okidoki then> all
in my opinion thats because some japanese people started to take a relationship with asian contries more seriously than ever. and i agree with them. its time to settle the past with other asians. unless we stop declaring the most important relation for us japanese is not the one with asians, im sure we are going to be isolated in asian society. and then it follows we will be cornerd in the stuation where we had been during the world war two.
I think that worship of Yasukuni Jinja should be stopped. If worship is continued, I regard a war criminal person's grave as it setting aside. Then, I think that the problem in the criticism and Japan from other countries of Asia is also lost.
with my apoligy.... KONBANWA & i am sorry about my word of JAPANESE. i really meant to anything like abusing or offending. we use the word to categorize just people's back ground which is quite common in here. anyway, i use correct form of the word from now then.
did u all have a good week end?? i went to a YOGA place for veg meal and short guided meditation and spiritual film. that was nice and made me calm. what have you all been up to????
>>355 I guess your YOGA lesson did really work on you. The misspellings are very few. I know some people use "Jap" for the short form of Japanese without an intention to say badly about Japan. But some guys here have a very acute sense of the language, so people including her should not use it.
By the way, I wanna ask, is it smart to begin with the small letter when I'm chatting on the internet? I thought it doesn't, and that's only foreigners(than English speaking people) do.
Is it smart to write "i" instead of "I" ,too? I'm not a native speaker of English so I don't understand it. I feel it's a little stupid when I see this.
hu.....n. do i really need to reply with that??? i do not mind that to type up I instead of i, but... well i wanna see your guy's say more about issues related to updateing news everyday. or just if you could give us something more interesting issues. but in my opinion..... yes, i do not use small letter at my work at all. but....i just say agree to disagree with this issue????
>>362 haha,Of course you must go on your way. Most of people don't care about "i"insetd of "I". But someone not used to reading messages like that may feel unesay. But it's not blame to you.
By the way, I'm looking for intresting issue for this thread too. But it might be hard to find that. Becouse forgin people as you are most intresting isshu(?) of this board. I also feel fun just as writing message to you.
So, talking about last weekend, many "Hanabitaikai" was hold around. "Hanabitaikai" meams big exhibition of fireworks. I went to one of it with my girlfriend. That was very beutifull and fantastic. I hope you could see Japanese fireworks someday. they are a littel deffernt from fireworks of West. You must be impressd.
First, you were blaming her for using an abbreveation for Japanese, Jap, claming that it is a racist term and then you went on to say that using a small lettter instead of capitalizing it at the beggining of every sentence sounded stupid? Come on. Don't you find it rude saying something like that? How come you are so mean to her? Please be nice to her and say something interesting for once.
Well, I must say that it feels great to have completed my last working day at Nova. It was quite possibly the most bogus organization I have ever worked for.
What is so bogus about Nova? Well, let's look at a few things. In fairness though, remember that many of the following observations apply to the entire "English Conversation School" industry in Japan equally.
There are no professional qualifications required to be a teacher. Nova provides three days of "training" for all new teachers. Want to teach the outrageously overpriced children's lessons? Just another 45 minutes of training. Well, I must say that it feels great to have completed my last working day at Nova. It was quite possibly the most bogus organization I have ever worked for.
What is so bogus about Nova? Well, let's look at a few things. In fairness though, remember that many of the following observations apply to the entire "English Conversation School" industry in Japan equally. There are no professional qualifications required to be a teacher. Nova provides three days of "training" for all new teachers. Want to teach the outrageously overpriced children's lessons? Just another 45 minutes of training. Once they get the students' money, they don't really give a damn whether they ever learn to speak English well or not. They follow P.T. Barnum's maxim about their being a sucker born every minute. Hardly any of the staff can speak English well and almost NONE of them study at Nova. Then in their sales talk they tell people how wonderful Nova is and how much they can improve their English at Nova. How in hell would they know? Would you eat lunch at a restaurant where the people who worked there always brought their lunch? I think not. What is good about Nova? The commercials are EXCELLENT!! They attract people like you wouldn't believe. In my school, we have people who drive in from two or three towns away. Why? Because they were hooked by the commercials. They have English schools right in their own towns, yet they drive an hour to study at Nova. All this when Nova is no better or worse than any of the other schools out there.
All the schools now have "opinion boxes" at the front desk so that students can confidentially submit their opinions and complaints about the school. According to what is written on the box, the box is emptied once a month and the contents sent directly to some bigwigs at the head office. Supposedly the staff never sees them. That the staff never sees them is true anyway. How is that? Because the boxes are never emptied!!! I know for a fact that as I write this (June 15, 1997) there is a message in the Kiryu Nova box which was put there in February. I have mentioned this numerous times and been brushed off each time.
Some people pay up to about $6,000. All that before they have had a single lesson. Any place that wants you to pay that much up front must be worried that they are so crappy that they couldn't keep you satisfied enough to want to come back month after month, were they to let you pay that way. Not that it's important, but the president of Nova was on the list of Japan's highest individual taxpayers for 1996 at Number 5. He paid about a gadzillion yen. All this while claiming that Nova provides lessons as cheaply as they can. Sorry, but it doesn't look that way from where I sit. (I wonder how his English is, by the way.....does HE study at Nova?) MORE TO COME LATER? PERHAP
The basic requirement to be an English teacher in Japan is to be eligible for a visa which allows you to work in Japan, and to be an English speaker. A few countries have "working holiday" arrangements with Japan which allow their young people to come to Japan for a few months and to work part-time. America has no such arrangement. The primary requirement for people not on working holiday visas is to be a graduate of a four-year university. Major is irrelevant.(back)
The children actually pay the same price for a lesson ticket as adults do. The problem is that ALL children's lessons are taught "Man to Man". Consequently they are charged either 3 or 4 lesson tickets for one class (depending on the school). What do Nova do in these classes that makes them worth so much? Worth so much more than other schools? NOTHING! They play games and draw pictures, just the same as in any other school. The difference? The price! About $50 or so for a 40 minute "lesson". Unfortunately, the parents don't inquire too deeply about what goes on, nor do they do any comparison shopping. (back)
Once they get the students' money, they don't really give a damn whether they ever learn to speak English well or not. They follow P.T. Barnum's maxim about their being a sucker born every minute. Hardly any of the staff can speak English well and almost NONE of them study at Nova. Then in their sales talk they tell people how wonderful Nova is and how much they can improve their English at Nova. How in hell would they know? Would you eat lunch at a restaurant where the people who worked there always brought their lunch? I think not. What is good about Nova? The commercials are EXCELLENT!! They attract people like you wouldn't believe. In my school, we have people who drive in from two or three towns away. Why? Because they were hooked by the commercials. They have English schools right in their own towns, yet they drive an hour to study at Nova. All this when Nova is no better or worse than any of the other schools out there.
The school operates on a "lesson ticket" system. In this system the school tries to get the student to pre-purchase as many lesson tickets as they can sucker them into. They show the prospective students a chart of Nova "levels" and then tell them on average about how many lessons it it will take to reach that level. Of course, they pull the numbers straight out of their butts. They next have the prospective pigeon take a "level check test". Almost all students will fall into one of the lower three levels. They show the pigeon the chart again and ask "How far would you like to go? How good would you like to be?" In that situation, everyone feels pressure to say they would like to obtain one of the loftier levels and is subsequently pressured to buy lots and lots of tickets. The more you buy at once, the cheaper each one is.
Some people pay up to about $6,000. All that before they have had a single lesson. Any place that wants you to pay that much up front must be worried that they are so crappy that they couldn't keep you satisfied enough to want to come back month after month, were they to let you pay that way. Not that it's important, but the president of Nova was on the list of Japan's highest individual taxpayers for 1996 at Number 5. He paid about a gadzillion yen. All this while claiming that Nova provides lessons as cheaply as they can. Sorry, but it doesn't look that way from where I sit. (I wonder how his English is, by the way.....does HE study at Nova?) MORE TO COME LATER? PERHAP
The basic requirement to be an English teacher in Japan is to be eligible for a visa which allows you to work in Japan, and to be an English speaker. A few countries have "working holiday" arrangements with Japan which allow their young people to come to Japan for a few months and to work part-time. America has no such arrangement. The primary requirement for people not on working holiday visas is to be a graduate of a four-year university. Major is irrelevant.(back)
The children actually pay the same price for a lesson ticket as adults do. The problem is that ALL children's lessons are taught "Man to Man". Consequently they are charged either 3 or 4 lesson tickets for one class (depending on the school). What do Nova do in these classes that makes them worth so much? Worth so much more than other schools? NOTHING! They play games and draw pictures, just the same as in any other school. The difference? The price! About $50 or so for a 40 minute "lesson". Unfortunately, the parents don't inquire too deeply about what goes on, nor do they do any comparison shopping. (back)
All the schools now have "opinion boxes" at the front desk so that students can confidentially submit their opinions and complaints about the school. According to what is written on the box, the box is emptied once a month and the contents sent directly to some bigwigs at the head office. Supposedly the staff never sees them. That the staff never sees them is true anyway. How is that? Because the boxes are never emptied!!! I know for a fact that as I write this (June 15, 1997) there is a message in the Kiryu Nova box which was put there in February. I have mentioned this numerous times and been brushed off each time.
stop copy'n paste this stupid crap you phucing moron!!! who gaves a damn bout phucking nova anyway? whoever wrote this crap must be a loser! don't come to this contry if you wana blame bout stupid shit like this!
Stop! In the name of love Before you break my heart
Baby, baby I'm aware of where you go Each time you leave my door I watch you walk down the street Knowing your other love you'll meet But this time before you run to her Leaving me alone and hurt (Think it over) After I've been good to you ? (Think it over) After I've been sweet to you ?
Stop! In the name of love Before you break my heart Stop! In the name of love Before you break my heart Think it over Think it over
I've known of your Your secluded nights I've even seen her Maybe once or twice But is her sweet expression Worth more than my love and affection ? But this time before you leave my arms And rush of to her charms (Think it over) Haven't I been good to you ? (Think it over) Haven't I been sweet to you ?
Stop! In the name of love Before you break my heart Stop! In the name of love Before you break my heart Think it over Think it over
I've tried so hard, hard to be patient Hoping you'd stop this infatuation But each time you are together I'm so afraid I'll be losing you forever
Stop! In the name of love Before you break my heart Stop! In the name of love Before you break my heart Stop! In the name of love Before you break my heart
Baby, think it over Think it over, baby Ooh, think it over baby...
Well, I thought this thread could be rather worth reading this time but all you are trying to do here is nothing. I just started wonderng if you really have something youd like to say even in japanese? Stop findng fault with others. Why are you sticking so much to the mistakes in grammar, spellings or style especially about which other people wrote? Dont you have any interest in what they said? Otherwise are you just studying for reading novels or something?
I think people have tendency to become like entirely different person when they are speaking foreign language. Have you ever thought about this? I'm really curious to know why this happens. For example, according to a book I read lately, some japanese students who spent their early teen in english countries and are able to speak english as their second language or in some cases much more fluently than their japanese, they answered they become more aggressive as they speak english. The other way around, could they be less aggressive as they speak japanese? Do you think the choice of language could influence on their mentality? not superficially but more deeply.
Could anyone answer my question here? thanks in advance.
I would say most of English learner in Japan could speake with any kinds of caracters in their mother tongue, Japanese of course, but when we speak in English, it depends on what was their motivations, and what kind of text had they used to it. For my part, I started learning English with Sesame Street and a kind of religious textbooks, so I'm not good at speaking English for criticize others. When I talk in English, some how I feel I have to behave good person.
>>381 I think it is intresting issue that you presented. I may say what I want to say directly when I speak or write in English. I'm not so good at English, but I also be.
There might be many reasons of that, but I want to raise one reasen as follws first. We learn English as a second language. That means we learn English as a tool of international communication. Therefore our purpose is to communicate what we want say. Our conversation in English is not just a chattering. So we speak or write directly to achive the purpose. And sometime we become to be agressive.
Second reason I want to mention is that most of people must have desire to metamorphosis. And it must overflow when one who learn English speaks or writes English. We Japanese tend to be gentle when we talk with each other. It might be some stress for us. Then we may let these feeling out when we speak or write in English.
There are more resons of this phenomenon. May I have your opinion please? >>all
By the way, what is the link of >>383 for? Did someone click it?
My English is directly from TV show, The Simpsons. So, mine has somewhat tongue-in-cheeks attitude. I'm always trying to be nice. But the words coming from my mouth are edgey (not wedgey). I hope someone wouldn't take it seriously.
This year we have awfully hot summer in Japan. But it's refreshing today.
By the way, Don't you feel bad when you use the word "down under"? If I remember rightly, it's discriminate word to Aus that English people use with meaning "the backside of the earth". Of course I don't get in the way of you useing this phrase. Australian don't care about it now?
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>>396 The first one is very interesting from a medical point of view. I tried to look it up in a medical encyclopedia, but I could not single out the exact name of the disease. The second one can be a very artistic collage, but you have chosen a wrong place to show it.However,it's very beautiful and at the same time grotesque,and very shocking to most people who will see it. The third one is not so artistic from my viewpoint because you can easily find it a fake penis.
....Gee. It's disgusting It makes me wanna puke!! I just ate dinner a few minutes ago,you know. How dare you!! All people who see this thread, I am warning you. Don't open it.
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Some people might think they'll be received as they're good at English with they use slang words, but it's wrong. If you write something worth to read in Eglish, you must be received.
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It seems that there are people in this thread who hold a grudge against the US government. Why don't you stop repeating the same phrases and share your thoughts with us. .
hope we are all happy on the biginning of the w/e. today i have lernt a new word OHHA- with making circle with your index and thumb. i was surprised that the banch of japanese girls laught at that. if was a kind of fun to make on friday afternoon.
hi!! >381 some japanese students who spent their early teen in english countries and are able to speak english as their second language or in some cases much more fluently than their japanese, they answered they become more aggressive as they speak english. The other way around, could they be less aggressive as they speak japanese? Do you think the choice of language could influence on their mentality? not superficially but more deeply<
i would like to give my say about this issue. one of my friends has 2 kids their mother is japanese and the father is oz. they both speak eng & japanese fluently for their age. one night they invited us for pizza diner & we had a fun there. their two kids, one is 6 and the other is 4, they use their english to us, then they use japanese for their mother very naturally. then i picked that point as you 381 have mentioned above. but their japanese mother said that they are same in their both languages, it is just for the imagination inside you and it depends on w your mother's tough thinks about the one another. but personally i like the sound of japanse rather than chinese or Korean.these sound too busy and like having a fighting or something. sorry i do not mean anything that bad...just in general.
and one more to say before i go to party tonight, for your say 241, i do not care about down under stuff at all. i mean we love it more than love. australian tourism industry uses the word of down under everywhere. but thanks for your say anyway. i like that part of your say.
thanks all for sharing the time with this, and i am off now. TA.
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>>462 I see. But anyway, I wonder why nana, and you make such easy spelling mistakes ? I have learnt how necessary it is not to misspell from both of you(grin
I met a young American lady who spoke a very decent and classy Japanese. According to her, her Japanese teacher was very strict, never allowed her to use Japanse slangs or dirty words. When she spoke Japanese, I wanted to believe she came from some upperclass family in Japan. But, that was her education.
When she spoke English, I immediately knew she is not an extrordinary American, but born and raised in California.
She was never aggressive in Japanese nor in English, but she sounded more laid-back and slower (and maybe more passive) in Japanese.
In short, language education may fool you.
Another point. If your observation is true, Japanese students in English countries tend to be more assertive rather than aggressive. Assertiveness is a foreign concept to many Japanese, and no education is provided to be more assertive in Japan When they are in English-speaking societies, they learn how to be more assertive. But never confuse assertiveness with aggressiveness.
I am considering the bad smell itself. I actually don't know whether the smell was produced by some bacterias or not. Perhaps, you(>>479) are correct. Anyway, I just felt the some chemical matters which arrived at an organ in my nose
seems like a lots people confront english here. well, I know some people tend to stick to memorization of words or phrases when they study second language. but even if english conversation school says "if you speak english you can talk with billion people", for real, there are many opportunities to use english for conversation with people who speak english as a second language. So, Ive started wondering if its effective to dig in english deeply that much. I mean, effective conversation skill doesnt get better in proportion to the number of vocablaries and phrases. humm.. any suggestions?
>>484 There is no wonder if you think it's meanless to memoraize thousands of words and phrases. You might think you can communicate with people who speak English, especialy speak English as their second language. To conclude, that's right. You can have conversation with people around the world with hundreds of words and phreses.
But they can't work enough if you want to tell what you want to say accurately or express what you feel in your mind when you meet somthing impressed you much.
And native English speakers who are high educated often use difficult word and phrase to express difficult concept in short. You have to know what these words and phrase mean if you want to understand what they say without obstracting their speach. And this is what needed in the spot of international bussiness field.
That's why some of us study English hard especialy memorizing thousands of words and phrases.
hello from syd, since my last say,,,,,,,,,uh....what is going on here!!!! i will be back when i finish read through all your say.
i would like say that syd had 30th 14km fun run called the city to surf which more than 50,000 people joind to rise the money for children's cancer foundation. the professionals to amature and the babies on their parent's trams to the elders. that was fuuuuuuuuuuuuun to look from the beautiful bondi beach. i had my run in 99'. okidoki now.
Could you tell me what is "parent's trams"? "Tram" means "baby-carriage," right? Does this look like a tram? A special stuff for carrying a baby during the run?
u do not need run through it all. run for fun,the parent runs with pushing the tram with a baby's in it. do u get it??? sorry with my poor expression....i am half speel now. but i can think of any.....cause i need to go to bed now. oyasumi japan! and one more to add, thanks for being nice to me. i apreciate that and respect that. arigato.
Hello Japan! I am very sukebe westerner who likes hot japanese chicks. Unfortunately, most japanese girls who come to austrlia, have got a face like a smashed crab. This no good! We need good looking Japanese girls to represent Japanese sukebe in australia! My Japanese friend also misses hot japanese girls in Australia. So, you should come to Australia for sukebe action. So desu yo!
Omaeto fuck shitaize! Boku wa taiyo daze! I love you Tatsuya!
To those who may concern: I am an attending doctor of Taiyo. He lost his psychiatric balance recently and we are taking care of him at our outpatient clinic. We allowed him to access the net as a means of rehabilitation. But look what he did! Although our clinic will deny any responsibility to whatever he did, we regret that he created this kind of mess. We will take strict care of him from now on. Just ignore him. Wait till tranquilizer works on him.
>>482 Phuck you turd! if you MFer feel offensive about my words then so be it! this is a free Mudaphucking country bitch! i ain't losing mah head you phucking moron! I'm just having fun looking at you losers responses!
I have no doctor, that guy is just the drunken ETA bum that keeps on hassing me in the street. However,he is a funny bastad, so I cannot comlain too much. If you are going to say something bad about me, at least make it funny.
>>499 taiyo, I have heard japanese girls are considered cute among westerners because of thier pitch of voice is high. Is that true? and sometimes thier voice could be annoying for some people because they misunderstood japanese girls might be pretending like they are little cuties. It sounds a bit silly but i heard those from my prof. by the way, do you know Lucy Lue ,an american actress? she is amazing.
>>502 I think the voice of japanese and chinese girls(maybe all the asian girls) are freaking so annoying. I think ppl's opinion is involving with these stuff.
well, I run into one chinese guy on chat. and he was really pissed off about japanese censorship about history text book. I was trying to explain its just one of thousands text book so it doesn't mean we distort the historical facts. But he was still mad at attitide of japanese people to this problem because we didn't take any action. I think it is about which side you look on history. I just can't figure out why they are making big deal out of this.
We could have any different kind of opinion supposing researches on history around just after ww2 is not completed, couldn't we?
>>513 A delicate issue, by all means. One reason for his frustration might be his lack of understanding of the current Japanese mentality, i.e. indifference towards WWII-related facts (atrocities, victims, you name it). In other words, why would we be compelled to take action if it hardly (feels like it) concerns us? Not a commendable attitude, I know, yet real IMHO.
>>515 Is it just his lack of understanding ? Then what's the difference between him and some Japanese who still complain about atomic-nuclear bombs by US ? U might say that's a different issue. I guess all same shit though...
so...u say those Japanese lack of understanding the current US mentality ? Ridiculous !!
>>517 Im really concerned about that missing girl. but its on one condition. If she be DQN who never try to understand cultural differences, I never feel for her. It could happen to any body who believes I'M AN EXCEPTION. Since you are in AUS I believe you know what I mean. bye,
No, I clearly stated that "One reason for his frustration might be his lack of understanding...", hence no, unless you misunderstood what I wrote.
>Then what's the difference between him and some Japanese who still complain about atomic-nuclear bombs by US ?
You tell me. Did I ever claim there was a LACK of difference?
>U might say that's a different issue.
Nope. I wouldn't say these two examples deal with different issues. Misunderstandings due to difference in cultural background is common worldwide. Thus the example in the original topic, and the one you provided, are merely two aspects of a larger issue.
>so...u say those Japanese lack of understanding the current US mentality ? Ridiculous !!
You may find the notion ridiculous, but you have yet to provide a thesis of your own. I'm curious as to your version of the story.
how are u doing guys? the pretty japanese girl,the media revealed that she has been hiding from somothing? i missed the news..... hope u all have good w/e? i went to a party on fri night. it was fuuuuuuun. we took some soft drugs at the end of the party,so could i have your says about the drugs in japan? okidoki.
>>535 I'd use "in" instead of "on". "in 7th grade" and "in 9th grade" would mean more or less the same. >>534 Borrowing a little from 535's post...I'd call them "junior-high geek"s or "low-teen dork"s.
I am a huge fan of Japanese anime.Tenku no shiro Rapyuta is the film that challenged AKIRA in my top five and may well have won. Along with Nausica of the valley of the wind, Castle in the Sky is pure genius,eclipsing any and all Disney features ever created. Beautiful,suspenseful,full of heart and imagination,this film shows what art and entertainment is all about.Miyazaki should be canonized
Because of this long time failing of japanese english education, I would like to hear opinion about a real basis of language education. "can language really be taught?" I'm beginning to wonder if someone can teach language to someone else. I'm not denying the fact you can acquire it by nature or learn it even from scratch. Supposing that language is something you can get only by making great efforts outside school, what is the purpose to force all kids to confront one language without any profit for 6 years as one subject of syllabus?
>>548 I'm not sure about the merits of teaching English in school...but, were I ever faced with the task of 'forced' bilinguial upbringing, I'd attempt to get my child addicted to some hobby or another which requires extensive use of English - yet not as a grammatical school of linguistics, rather as a living method of communication. A couple of examples off the top of my head;
1. Attempt to create interest in overseas traveling, encourage solo travel, promote body-language skills
2. Attempt to get the child hooked on an English-version MMRPG (preferably with a reasonable amount of text, of moderate difficulty) where he/she will be interacting with non-Japanese players
I know the examples above sound like rubbish...but the point is, not learning the language as an academic virtue, but using it while enjoying oneself with hobbies and the like, i.e. as a tool of sorts.
well, im a universtity student now and fortunately in the circumstances being able to study English for my graduation credits. But all I got those classes were these two conflicting ideas. One, English is a tool for communication then if you dont use it there is no need to study. Two, English is an academic area if you have nothing to say even in Japanese don't dare to study. First logic is often heard from foreign instructers and second one is from Japanese profs. so they naturally use completely different kinds text books in classes. the one for kids in the jr high and the one for univ students in the US. I don't understand what we all are doing in those two separated ability requring classes. I think English education in Japan is really fragmentary. and then I came to the conclusion that there is no need to make all Japanese study one language in the first place if they are not ready to teach appropriately.
Once upon a time, it was COOL for 2channelers to write down in 3 lines on the thread making sharp response to formers. Some people said "Go to yahoo" to a write who wrote in many lines.
goooooooood day mates!!! i would like to know if anyone can kindly tell me about something funny, like a trend in jpn, kinkiy one or the drug issue in jpn.
i would like to make a resu about <a real basis of language education> there is a text book calls <every day australian> i liked 549's say, and i agree with it. if u are interested in something, start doing something with english will be more easier, i guess. speaking up and do not be afraid of your english or do not be ashamed if u made a mistake. u should know that u learn from mistakes. well i have to go now. okidoki!
>>550 Studying English is like traveling by train along a winding track. You may sometimes find a switch back on the track. It looks boring, but it is necessary.
You wrote: >so they naturally use completely different kinds text books in classes. >the one for kids in the jr high and the one for univ students in the US. I think you expected to go through with the two tracks at the same time. It is not unusual at school( e.g. When in university, I learned chemistry English and inorganic chemistry using an English textbook simultaneously.)
hello from down under! okidoki, i would say,,, sayonara or see u later. well....this place seems to be very quiet than usual? could somebody can tell me if something happen. do anyone wanna say about good well game? i am very excited these day!!
>>557 crone-->clone this board down-->this board is down befor-->before it happen-->it happens make it-->have it in bookmark of your PC-->in your bookmark
I saw the movie "TITANIC" on TV again. (I've ever seen it before at Movie Theater.) But that was fall flat! It was dubbed into Japanese, bacause original "TITANIC" is American film. But actors charged in voice part lacked their skill as voice artists, they spoiled it completely. I didn't get it at all.
Director James Cameron designated the point would change into the TV commercial by himself. Because, he didn't want the outsider had the films arranged without his will. If he had known that fact, he would have exploded.
i can not agree more! the original one in 70's is match better than that. i like shogun which i saw yesterday at abc tv and samurai. musashi, which was played mikuni was great and cooooool. hope u all have great w/e.
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I am considering whether I should buy a DVD soft '6D' or not, in which the leading star is Schwa-chan. It must be certain that the sound would be very nice because it is recorded in DTS system. But I dont think the story is quite good, though i dont know exactly. In my understanding, the clone become or behave the original one. I dont think it would happen unless the clone would be born in our real future. Could anybody suggest me that the movie is worth while to seeing even I would pay for getting it?
When I come to this thread, I always feel disappointed with my ability of English, since I cannot scan all the articles quickly; it takes much longer time to scan in English than in Japanese.
Could you all carry on thisk thread with sage? You see DQN like >>568 who doesnt understand the intention of this thread come by if you leave this on the main board. Just put the word "sage" into the blank for email. thank you.
Hi,the new commer here! Yeah,I agree with the guy above who mentioned about the double in american movies shown in Japanese TV,they always ruin the atomosphere the original one has held. So,anybody has ideas how it is possible to translate Eddy Murphy movies to japanes without loosing the jokes and moods and everything?
America under attack! When I saw a scene an airplane crushed straight into the world trade center, somehow I felt excited. Does anybody share this feeling with me? Am I evil?
>>588 A natural response, I daresay. I felt the adrenaline rush too... a normal animal reaction to an extreme occurence (the crash). I wouldn't judge someone as being evil or otherwise based on that alone.
>>590 I know what you mean...I lost much of my usual sleep, last night, watching the news, waiting for - or needing to confirm the lack of - developments.
What worries me most is that this would be, no doubt, the first time in decades that the U.S. takes military action with major global (or at least Western) support...
All I thought was the family members whose loved ones didn't come home yesterday. All I thought was the children who lost their parents. All I thought was the fear of the passengers on board of those flights distined to a certain death without a opportunity to say good by to their family. The more I read about the personal story of the victim, the more saddened I become.
>593 A Miss shooting? >592 Agree. I don't think this 's gon'na be real war because of that this was not done by one country but some kind of a group, and God forbit, this's gon'na be real war. Should I drip dead?
>>594 >593 Mis-typing, rather, from the looks of it. www.cnn.com has multiple accounts based on interviews with the next-of-kin and such of the victims on the crashed passenger planes. I couldn't help asking myself what I'd do if I were faced with the "vote" mentioned therein...whether to sit still and pray that nothing happens, or to put one's life at risk, worse still forfeit it, for the sake of saving a thousand others...
Those who died in the WTC are direct vicitims of the terrorists. But those whose lives may be in peril because of the possible US action in the future are also the victims of the terrorists. Nobody wants war, but nobody has any clear answere how to eliminate the terrorists who were responsible for this hideous act. It is easy to say that you are against violence or revenge. When you are dealing with a bunch of lunatics, the reasoning does NOT work.
That's true. I know most of us don't have many ways to do about anythings to this terror. But think positive. For now, we are not doomed to face real war for one hundread percent. Think how we should spend our next day.
I really don't think we will go into the real war situation. I suppose people on this site are mostly in Japan. You cannot imagine the sadness and anger in the US now. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that American are all for war. They don't want wat either. But they do need to make sure that these terrorists will be punished or eliminated for good so that nobody else will go through this heart shuttering incident. Since that day, I need to fight my tears every waking moment. If I let myself, I burst into crying thinking about each person whose life was cut short all because they happened to be an American. Do you guys remember how it felt when Kobe was hit by a great earth quake? You cannot get mad at the natural disaster, but remember the sadness? The people in the US are trying to deal with this trememdous sadness and anger now. I wish people stop criticizing about the US policy. Don't you know that they too dislike the idea of war? Because it is again the Americans who will die fighting against this lunatic terrorists.
I would think that America shoud go retaliate for those who died. It was very impressive to see that many rescure workers voicing USA when Bush arrived on the site making every one sure that the nation would not yeild to that act of insane.And this has to be stopped. I strongly support America go Afganistan and let La Dien remind of what teaching of islamics really means.It has to be done at any costs.
Iraq closed the border because the refugees are leaving Afganistan. If only Afganistan and Pakistan will cooperate with the US and arrest the bastard, they don't need to worry about the US retaliation. The rescure workers are wonderful. They are risking their own lives to find any survivors though all they find are dead or partial body of the deceased. I don't like the idea of going to war, and I hope there are other ways to solve this situation. The rescure workers are the shinning light in this darkness of our heart. God bless them all for they make us believe that there is still hope in this humanity.
First of all, I want to express my regret over this tragedy.
I am very pleased and satisfied to read such rational discussion about this terrorism. To tell the truth, I have been disappointed with some idiotic Japanese 2channelers that have posted really awful and silly articles on several American BBS. Among these rude contents by these idiots, I could find several articles that have been posted WITHOUT ANY TRANSLATION FROM JAPANESE --- in other words, they are posted IN JAPANESE MULTI-BYTE CODE.
Can't we do anything to fight against such Japanese "coward oxen" that make Japanese reputation worse?
Stukids = stupid kids? I like that. There's nothing we can do about these stukids. Hopefully, these kids will realize their stupidity and feel ashamed when they grow up.
Well,I know the tragedy of terrorism has been affecting american people or those who are living in the us more seriously than we can imagine in Japan. And I myself feel anger and chill to know people who believe terrorism is one way to solve their problems, exist still now. But I also think its time for america to show their maturity as a nation of freedom. They must not strike back by using the force. The only way they should take as constitutional country is that find criminals to bring them to a trial and punish them acoording to the law. We call it a mature country.
I hear from TV news saying that some country is aregedly hyding the terrorists so this may be going to real war. But I don't know how should I comment to it.
This terrorists attacked the US knowing that the US will not do the same to them. They know that the US has to fight back with its hands tied. People said that there would be another Iraq even if the US could defeat Sadam. Well where is the another Iraq? People said that there will be another Osama din Loden even if we eliminate him. But that how the terrorists want us to believe. If we let him have his way, there will be another Osama.
>626 You mean Bush would be thinking the same way to people (those saying there will be another Osama din Loden even if 〜) so we don't have to worry about to the WWV?
627 I don't know how Bush thinks, but what I meant was that Osama is rather unique terrorist. He is awfully rich, smart, and has such charisma. He doesn't need any country to support his cause except his hidding place. If the US can find him and terminate him, I don't think there will be another terrorist like him. It is so much easier to attack a country than a person who can be anywhere. But the US needs to show to the terrorist groups in the world that the US will not allow such crime against innocent people and will destroy them. Anyway, nobody wants WWIII, and certainly the US will make sure that will not happen. Were you worried? I am not.
First off, the us striking back brings them termination. As far as what 628 said is concerned, there would no one appear who can fill their shoes, unless a nation played a part.
In this sence, as most americans may be thinking by now by beating them to pieces the world will recover its peace again. But what about feelings of people who could lose their families by this striking back? What about kids who could lose thier father or mother by this? You can not destroy only buildings by boming from combat planes. Many innocent people might be involved in another tragedy again. No more people should die. Noble Eagle? Please..
>>630 I read your comment. I think it's right. Probably, I consider the great portion of Japanese think so. I did not know the idiom you used in the following parts. I'll write it for you all.
There is no one who can fill his shoes, unless a nation played a part. もし国家が役割を果たさなかったならば、彼に代わることができる者は誰もいません。
I don't think we have to worry too much about war. For Bush knows that if the warfare went beyond the world's consensus, the US would immediately lose their supports from allied nations and that makes the things worse for the US to deploy the whole operation. It is probable that US will have hard times finding this canny criminal in the moutainous land of Afganistan or Iraq, but one they do,I think the situation will soon settle and there would be no necessity for US to suggest the use of any extraordinary wepons anything that people hear in rumors. Anyway, no body wants the world war 3 and I think people are smart enought to let it not happen. All we need is this lunatic captured in the hand of justice,
>>633 unless a nation plays a part (of terrorism).
I made a gramatical mistake there. I thought in "unless" clause you should use present tense right? But I didn't. In that sentence I meant, Ofcourse no one can take over Osama but if a nation played a part of terrorism, its another story. Maybe they would find next Osama to retaliate .
634 cause: 主義、動機、目的 You'd better get a better dictionary. 635 Whichever is fine, I think.
More than 80% of the American people think that the US should try everything possible before considering using the force against terrorists or the country which is protecting Osama and his gangs. Even if the US decided to attack, they will try hard not to harm the innocent people. The war Bush memtioned is a war against anybody who is there to destroy what we believe in;peace, freedam, love, justice, and goodness of our heart.
Hi, tell me your strategies when you communicate in English. Mine goes like.. 1. to prepare some topics you can lead conversation about in advance. 2. to try and speak as slowly as possible and as clearly as possible 3. to be mute (sage)
647 re: cause Yes, the word "cause" to mean "belief, conviction, purpose, principle" is used frequently in the US. I do not know about other English speaking countries though. I live in the US.
I received the following in my Hotmail Inbox. Would you say it's for real, or not?
HONORING A TRAITOR ?
This is for all the kids born in the 70's who don't remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation "visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
>>654 >>655 Of course its not for real. This is evil harassment directed to a woman whom this author hates to death. But the story was really elaborate and scared me a bit. I just suppose in these cases the crimimal is often acquainted with the victim. maybe they live in the neigborhood. Just like psycho movies.
Of course it's not real. This is evil harassment directed to a woman whom this author hates to death. But the story was really elaborate and scared me a bit. I just suppose that in these cases the criminals are often acquainted with the victims. Maybe they live in the neighborhood. It's just same as psycho movies.
USA: Hey man you surely help us this time right? Japan: Well, about that, I might need more well.. USA: We know you are going to. We are Friends remember? Japan: Of course I remember. That's why we have left china and korea second class treatment for a long time. You are my best friend. USA: And we know you said you would give us full support. Japan: I said so in some respects but.... USA: WELL, You should get ready tonight. We are leaving early in the mornig. Don't forget to bring expenses! chao! (hung up the phone) Japan: .....
So it is 6330 missing now. There are no more survivors. We are now worried about tomorrow. The news says that there may be another attack on 9/22. I need to go to downtown tomorrow to see my clients. Please no more innocent people get killed by that crazy terrorist!
I don't understand what you're saying. Do you mean that a language is just a tool of communication? If so, it'd be a big mistake. The mentality of using languages should be like what you say, but a language plays an important role in thinking of everything. If you mean that words uttered are the only language, you'd better think of it again...
Spoken language which means language people use for interaction by sounds is only language. Because every language has people who speak its language but not every language has a system of writing. In some language people talk but they don't write then they have no way to pass on their ideas to descendants but by word of mouth. Back to primitive society, even around that time people had a way to communicate others by making a sound in the way such as hitting something with a stick of wood or just growling. A sound is a basis of language. Then I do think one language cannot be devided into two functions as writing and speaking. A sound can be language by itself but language by writing is never going to be language by itself. What do you think?
I've heard that around 300 languages in the world have a writing system. We are lucky to have a brilliant writing system in Japanese and English. About your opinion, I know what you mean when you say the sound of a language is the basic in communication. I suppose, however, that it is a little bit too early for you to jump into the conclusion that the sound can be an only language. What about deaf people? Since they can not hear anything, there is no way to convey what they think but in a body language or otherwise. That is, the body language can be their native language. The point here is that there are people who don't need any sound in communication, whatever the reason it is. As long as there are people who don't need something, it can not be a basis of a language, whatever the path of evolution of a language has been.
>>680 Wow, you have a good sense of argument. Now I come to think of aliens. They don't use spoken language, not even body language. They use telepathy.
Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately, however, i have no way to understand what you are talking about but to think that you are some kinda wierdo. Aliens? What aliens? You mean people from outside Japan or extraterrestrians? Do you know the fact that every single foreigner is to have an alien card under the law of Japan? Come on, man, they are just human beings like us who have no brilliant capacity to use telepathy or anything. If you mean extraterrestrians, have you ever met one of them and seen if they are capable of what-do-you-call-it??? It's a serious argument going on, man. Please take it seriously and get back to me with your own opinion, all right? Thank you.
>>680 Hi, You mentioned sign language so I think I begin with the definition of language. When I say language, it means language which occured among people spontaneously and has been formed itself by natives. Since sign language is artificial one, I would like to leave it out when talking about language. Because if language category included sign language, we would be unable to manege Esperanto since this is completely artificial language. As you know, Esperant doesn't have its native speakerS. If you admit language which is not shared among its native speakers, my utterance which goes %&!"#$ could be one language. Of course this in not language. My utterance above is not language because that was not shared with people and then Esperant is not language because it doesn't have natives so sign language is not language because its artificial.
Ok, so you were just talking about the definition of a language. I accept your definition. What do you think about the function of a language? If a writing system can not be called a language, what is it for you?
>>653 Japan may be a country with little "cause." Japanese people sang "Let it be" in a mourning meeting of the terrorism's victims which was held in Japan. It seemed that the foreigners there felt the sense of incongruity for it and so did I. Many of Japanese people may think that when "cause" has been thrown away, it is the time to acquire the truth. "Let it be" is far from the Occidental thought.
>690 If that was intended, I admire the organizer. But I'm sure it wasn't so.
I believe that they watched "Imagine" was sang at the memorial show on the US TV. Since "Imagine" was very popular in Japan too, they just go ahead and use the Jhon Lennon's CD.
By the way, what does "country with little "cause." " mean?
>>680 Sorry for late reply. The function of language is to convey the info to others. Writing system is one aspect of language. Nothing further. It's too superficial to change the formation of language. Then the idea of there's special ability that you might need when you speak language must be wrong. I am not talking about the vocal organs. what do you think?
>>692 I was glad if a John Lennon's CD was used there. However, the song was sung by Japanese people. They could not sing the song not so well. Japanese people cannot usually sing an English song well. Now, my grandmother taught me "Don't make "a shugisha or an -ist"." In my old country, the phrase "He is a shugisha." was used at the time. It is not necessarily absurd. The root of that is in Buddhism. Should I tell more detail?
>>694 I have not followed your conversation well. However, I like to make one proposal here. How is it, considering sign language? (shuwa). According to the experienced person, it is neither the substitute of our language, nor translation. It is said that it is one language system. They say that it is a very simple, direct, and interesting system of the transmission of the informations and it is beyond our expectation.
>>695 It's kind of funny to know japanese people sang let it be at the meeting, objective of which was to heal victims. I'm sure they didnot mean to let the hurt feelings of people who are suffering from that tragedy be. It just means they perhaps ignored to imagine reactions which caused by their singing let it be. I can't agree with your opinion that "Japanese people cannot usually sing an English song well." That was not point I suppose. They showed their care for that tragedy and that's everything. and What is a shugisha? I'd like to know if it's possible. thanx in advance.
>>695 I still don't get the point. I don't need any details, though. Just tell me the simple fact that you are trying to point out.
>I was glad if a John Lennon's CD was used there. >Japanese people cannot usually sing an English song well. Is that it? Is that all you are talking about? Are you just making fun of the people who sung there?
Anyway, I should honor the organizers for their exquisite sarcasm or else somewhat subtle joke.
We had better stop discussion. I only said that it is very difficult for a foreigner to sing the song of a foreign language as a generality. Probably, it is almost impossible to sing a song of a foreign language on a high level. It is very difficult to sing a song with a heart. And it will be an Enka when Japanese people are going to sing a song from the heart. But, Imagine is of course not an Enka. Good-bye.
My English is misunderstood frequently. It is because I am poor at English. When I use Japanese language, I am not disliked by people. But it often happens in English dialog. I wonder if I can improve it. I envy a person who has good English education, because I am studying by myself. Please do not mind.I do not mind,too.Now,it's the time for me to go to work. See you again.
Had better sounds a bit arrogant in that context I think. Maybe you can say We should stop, shouldn't we? or else.
Anyway, I know what you mean. It is difficult almost impossible for me expressing what I think exactly in foreign language and this difficulty often bugs me as I'm speaking Eng. But on the contrary that makes me realize I should read more magazines to store knowleadge and vocab trying to know how I can avoid being misunderstood. I guess all these efforts are not only for Eng. They are also good for myself.
The planner presented the world a very good sence of humor based on a exquisite sarcasm through "Let it be" sung at the ceremony.
Are you people in America still talking about the terror and the retaliation against it? Why can't you just let it go? We Japanese learned how to let things pass when you dropped A-bomb and lost the war.
Letting things go is not the way to handle the terrorists whose purpose in life is to kill innocent Americans and Jews. The retaliation is not the right word for what the people in the US intend to do. They want the murderers caught and punished so that other people don't have to be afraid. When innocent Japanese were murdered in Tokyo by the cult (Asahara?), you did not let it go but instead arrested the cult members and sentensed accordingly. If we let the murderes go without proper punishment, what kind of society are we going to have:lawlessness. Don't justify the act of terrorists for there's no justification. Don't bleme the innocent victims for they are not responsible.
I agree to >706. But I also want to US to try to not lead the whole world into nuclear war. The victims of Hiroshima won't forget the tragedy of Hirosima, I'm sure. But ordinary citizens, Hiroshima victims didn't have strong ways to protest against US. No one would want such things to let go.
709 You need to learn more about Osama din Loden and his followers. In this gloval age, every country is interrelated and interdepended with other countries. Osama is not representing the Arab nations' opinion regarding America and its policy. He is rather a major pain in the neck as a terrorist who organizes such act against many Arab countries and surrounding countries. You may want to give him excuses for his act, but there is no excuse for what he did or why. And please don't hang up on words America or the media uses and make judgment on what America is all about. As far as the judicial system is concerned, American system is much more protective toward the accused than any countries in the middle east. This kind of act must be stopped for good. If you think that the US is after only Osama, you are mistaken. Killing him will not be enough to stop this madness. Sometime, there is such an evil force which leaves no choice for you but to pick up a weapon to fight because you need to ensure the safe society for your children. Even the Dr. Martin Luther King who was the pacifist acknowledged that there were times violence was necessary. I know you who are in Japan cannot fathom how people here in the US are feeling. It is not a revenge as you might heard from TV. It is a big "WHY?" Why such hatred? How can be so hatfull enough to kill thousands of innocent people who happened to be American or were in the US. Osama is nothing to do with Arab-America problem. He is just a religious lunatic whose belief is hate. It is as simple as that.
>>710 >You may want to give him excuses for his act Like I said, I am not for the terrorists. I want to make this clear. America should show the world that terrorism can't be the solution.
>Sometime, there is such an evil force which leaves no choice for you >but to pick up a weapon to fight because you need to ensure the safe >society for your children. Don't you think some of the young Arabs might think the same way?
>nothing to do with Arab-America problem How can you be so sure about that? If America doesn't give it any consideration, it never can emerge from this terror-retaliation circle.
>It is as simple as that. This only tells me that you are too upset to make fair judgement. I hope people in America could calm down in time before making any terrible mistakes.
711 Find out about Osama first. About relationship between US/Arab not being the cause of Osama's act: because most of the Arab countries are supporting the US's effort to terminate the terrorist act by Osama. If Osama's act was based on Arab-America problem(whatever it may be), why should they support it? Anyway, the US like any other countries made some mistakes in the past. But they are not obligated to make everybody in the world happy. I think Americans are as calm as one can be under the circumstance. That is why they have not nuke the bastard and Taliban. You may not believe me but the Americans really want to handle this situation in a right way- not killing innocent people in Afgan. May be because all your information about this matter is from the media which has no interest in reality or facts but more eye-catching head lines. Whatever the US does or does not, there are always some people who are not happy with the US. You cannot make everybody happy all the time. So be it. Osama has to grow up, that's all.
Hi it's been a while that i don't write in here. No country but England participates willingly in this ridiculous act of the U.S.
>why should they support it?
Because the U.S. is the world super power. That's all. Their policy is totally absurd. Can you possibly imagine how many people suffer from this stinky American way of handling issues for all these years? Nobody likes America. Other countries follow its policy only superficially. The American policy is SO stinky a garbage that we have to dump it in spiral water of toilette flush. If you said your opinion above while sober, I would have to suspect that you are brainwashed by the slopshod CIA agent. ittekudasai.
The world power balance will change in the future where the U.S. is no longer a super power. I am not pro-terrorism, but the incident is definitely the result of what the U.S. policy has done.
It is good that you 713 don't write often. Your statement is baseless and irrelevant. You may go. Your statement lacks any credible evidence or convincing reasoning. You may grow up too.
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First you start mumbling Then you start stumbling Then your motor skills start malfunctioning Could it be the intake Of the chemical that makes your body shake All over, so critical First one running to the bar To get a drink First one hanging out the car Chunky pink Really paralyzed, numb up and sedated Moving with that rubber band body when you faded Smoke about an ounce of weed Drank ten beers, it's just a Matter of time before you start getting the fears You can't steer? (you can't steer?) You can't hear? (you can't hear?) You ain't here, you can't steer clear? You wanna go home?
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You never understand the fact that you are discriminated among white people. I can easily picture that you are meaninglessly grinning trying to wear a I-know-how-you-feel kind of look in front of whites, which is so disgusting. You, one of those who are pro-white for no reason, may go.
"Anyway, the US like any other countries made some mistakes in the past. But they are not obligated to make everybody in the world happy. I ."
yeah, well making other countries happy is not AT ALL THE ISSUE HERE ok ?!? RUNNING A COUNTRY'S FOREIGN POLICY IS ABOUT THE ISSUE OF TRYING TO HAVE SOME SENSE OF MORALS !!
YOU IDIOT !!
because america is not the only nation in this world, and there is a ripple effect to any action a country decides to pursue.
you should know that anything to do with a country's doemstic or foreign policy should at least try to consider the issue MORALS !! look at what u.s.a. did to the tiny island of galapagos ? was that necessary ?? i don't think so ! and the LENGHT of that BLODDY war with vietnam. was that necessary ?? i DON'T think so !!
so this is NOT about being "jelous" with the usa, ok ? this is about looking at all sides of the issue and THEN DEALING WITH MORALS !
722 Then, please name one. Enlighten me. All you have been doing is nothing but belittling. You provide no material and convincing reasoning to the subject. I want to know which one of the Arab-USA problems contributed to this terro attack. Don't just say "arab-America" problems. You need to give me the precise ones with your analytical reasoning with the facts based on the history. I'll be waiting.
you have to read between the lines of all and any textbooks, political magasines, television news etc etc, after all, media controls what we see and hear and you have to figure out what is right and what is wrong. a prime example, would be the current situation with the terrorist attacks on america : DID YOU KNOW that those news images of that very joyful muslim woman and kids who were CHEERING the attacks ARE TWO YEARS OLD !! CNN finally admitted to the clips being OLD. i'm NOT going to get into who is right or wrong in this case, BUT media is not supposed to lie to the public to get some kind od false reaction. i believe we are all smarter then that and are capable of making up our own minds in the matter. . .
so the point of what i'm saying is that you can't trust all that you see and read, alright ?? you have to do some research and thinking if you're really interested in politics and don't want to appear a fool.
the following texts/books may be of some help to you :
COMTEMPORARY INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS framework for understanding by: DANIEL S. PAPP
"and so it goes": adventures in television by : linda ellerbee
( linda ellerbee was an anchor woman with various american networks, including NBC and she wrote this book about what REALLY goes on in the white house, behind the scenes of a news programme, etc etc this book was a bestseller in new york city. )
finally, there are various political journals that deal exclusively with asia . . .
>>726 >which one of the Arab-USA problems Unfortunately, this world is not as simple as you think. It is impossible to point out just one specific probable cause. Plus it is not even just about the Arab-US friction such as the possession of a land of Palestine and oil consessions in Saudi Arabia. The north-south problem, ethnic movement in the post cold war, and so much more are involved. Now you know why it is so hard to seize terrorism. It can't be solved by punishing a person nor a country.
>All you have been doing is nothing but belittling. Not you but me? Am I misunderstanding you? All along, you've been trying to reduce this horrible outcome of complicated international relations to a simple act of a bunch of fanatics.
Please don't be satisfied with one-sided information. You need to doubt it. that is the beggining of knowledge. Always, do the right thing.
>>738 I assume you meant 736. My answer is "No". 'Cause I don't have to. I'v never met a native English speaker who omits "a" when saying "a couple of". Have you?
If you are talking about non native English speakers, it depends. However, I believe that the best thing to do is to correct on the spot than to neglect and let it go in the long run.
>>739 I don't think that way. That's a common mistake for Japanese, especially who learned their English only by their poor ears. People who read it might think that the person who made that mistake is not intelligent enough to read nor write. Don't you think that's good for the person to notice his/her poor point and start making efforts to overcome?
>>740 If you are talking about non native English speakers, it depends. However, I believe that the best thing to do is to correct on the spot than to neglect and let it go in the long run.
It depends like sometimes you do sometimes you do not? Of course it may be an important thing when you are talking to people in the class room. If you did that in real life you would end up making people think you be nothing but arrogant.
My point was that you did not make any comment about what he or she wrote above. It seemed like you have an interest more in how he or she wrote than what he or she wrote. And you talked about the best thing to the others mistakes then I want to ask 'To whom?'. I don't think the one who is beneficially great is someone you corrected in this case. Just be constructive. That's all I can ask for.
Perhaps,Some people escaped here because long English sentences started to be written.Anyway I also want to run away because I am tired of reading long English sentences.See you
>>745 While I was busy talking over the issues, I didn't have the chance to correct it.
However, since "名無しさん@米国" was going away, I thought it's good time to let him/her know that he/she needs to work more on English as a farewell gift.
>people think you be nothing but arrogant. Think about it. Who would dare to correct you despite that? You should be thankful that you no longer have to make the simple mistakes in front of real people in real life.
>>750 You are missing my point. I said you might be considered an arrogant English nerd by keeping blue penciling what the others wrote, which is because I thought you didnot say anything over the issue. Sorry for this misunderstandling.
I was just warning you that there are some people who doesn't appriciate what you are doing. Personally I don't hate to be told what I wrote was grammatically wrong but even so I do think you should find a better way to do that.
bitch you say. I believe there won't be any such rude gals. かおる@半可通、英コピ4、♀、通訳1、、、 These are ladies. worth to say haahaa, right? Of course I can't deny they were nekamas though.
Many people from overseas point out that Japanese people have two sides in their mentality. One is for their social life, the other is for real they. It is a common phenomenon that people change themselves according to circumstances. But some anthoropologists also say it's noteworthy in Japanese society.
And as coming to this bbs and watching people posting vicious messages, I realized that Japanese people have sick in their head. They lead normal life in public exchanging amicable words and greeting politly. But they are doing so not because they are amicable nor polite. Their social standards require them doing so. And they are obviously getting frustrated by keeping doing so.
As an evidential fact, I want to ask you this question: Do you have any friend sharing knowleadge that you are coming here to post some harsh comments as a response to others? I guess the answer in no. Because you know what you are doing here is not socially acceptable.
Don't get me wrong. I am saying this just because we are all mentally sick. But especially in Japan you can not be defferent from others. This conflict your sickness and your social pretending personality brought you here. It's not something you have to be ashamed of. I admit I am somehow sick.
I think if I was a monkey or something living in primitive culture, maybe I could lead my life happily just sleeping by day and searching for foods by night. But for real I am not. You all are somehow sick by living in this country. Am I wrong?
I did not plan to write such a long comment like this. sorry.
>>761 >Do you have any friend sharing knowleadge … My answer is "Yes". It is pretty much acceptable up to a certain point.
>I am saying this just because we are all mentally sick. Maybe you are. However, just because you are doesn't mean everbody is the same.
>I think if I was a monkey or something living in … Grow up. Monkeys are living in more severe world. It could be thrown out of its group by just irritating its boss and that means directly death to that poor animal.
>Am I wrong? Yes, you are wrong. If you can't survive in this calm country, you can't survive anywhere. Look around the world, lots of people are busy looking for food to eat. They don't even have time to think about their mental statement.
>>761 I more or less echo your thoughts...though the catalysis ensuing from activities such as posting on these boards, or getting drunk with friends must be what keeps society from falling apart. A necessary evil, though it may tend not to be pretty. Perfectly normal, IMHO.
>>768 I got this impression that maybe he is still in the safe place where he can do whatever he wants to do. In school you can talk to anyone about your pathetic distress. On the contrary people are really stuffed up with daily work out there. You can't do whatever you want to.
>>775 >you can talk to anyone about your pathetic distress. What do you mean by that? I meant to tell 761 that "some harsh comments" can be pretty much acceptable in real society up to a certain point.
>You can't do whatever you want to. I guess everybody knows that. Even a kid in play-school.
>>776 Hi, It depends on what "some harsh comments" is. Don't you think Itteyoshi! Shine! Kaisenkitte, kibiture! are included? I don't think those words are not socially acceptable.
>>You can't do whatever you want to. >I guess everybody knows that. Even a kid in play-school. I wrote this as a figurative expression. I want you not to take that literally. I meant you can't say or do as you want to in real life.
>>777 No, not those words. That is why I'm keep saying "up to a certain point"; besides I don't think those are even "harsh comments". I think those are curse words we don't have in common Japanese.
>you can't say or do as you want to in real life. Or even in play-school. I said that because I thought you are thinking that people can be more free in school than work places. It's the same real world at there.
>>780 Hi Well, If you stick to that point, we are getting off the track again. Here is an elemental question "did you read >>761 ?" then let's get back to the original contribution. Honestly I don't care your definition of harsh words and curse words because as we are talking about the context of 761, we must follow 761s difinition right? and I don't see the big defferences between harsh words and curse words in the original context.
If what concerns you the most is your impression that I would be saying college kids are enough stupid not to tell right from wrong, it's misunderstanding. What I was trying to say was that people could have much more opportunity to talk about something you would be ashamed to tell people in school than in working place. and If you say you are working in the circumstances you can tell people that you often come to 2ch, I envy you. and if you insist that you are just not doing anything to disgrace you so that you can tell people, it's another story.
>>781 I thought 761 said "I come here and make harsh comments because I'm sick. I believe you are too. We are all sick because of this Japanese society. I'd rather be a monkey."
And I thought what 761 ment by saying "vicious messages" and "harsh comments" was some very direct or sometimes even rude coments without any compliment. I never thought of anything you've wrote in 777.
Maybe I am not sick enough to understand 761 right. I mean, are you 761? If so, I'm sorry to misunderstood you. If not, how can you be so sure about that?
Anyway my points are follows: Not everyone comes to 2ch has mental distress. There are work places you can talk about 2ch with no sweat. Japan is much better than most of the other countries. To survive as Japanese is much easier than to do the same as a monkey.
Sorry if I confused you. Just neglect this and go on, please
Wow!! I don't know what to say other than that. I was just ignoring this thread. I'm not 100 percent sure, but these posts reminds me of a HHG I knew. Wow!
I see many people come here to complain that certain English conversation school they go to is bad or good. There are many problems with those schools there is no doubt about that. They might offer you unqualified teachers. I hear some of them even don't have any interest in teaching. It's horrible and their students have a right to say something to this.
But I also see some people who are speaking up on this matter is just people who attribute their problems to others. They don't seem to try and solve the problems by themselves at all. I even think they might sit back in the chair with big oriental smile on their faces while in the class room. And maybe they often go "sensei nani itteru no?" to the next students while the teacher asked questions directly to them. I heard in English countries you are nothing if you stay a non-verbal smiling doll. I am sick and tired of watching smiling dolls in those stuations but sometimes I find myself being one of them. It made me wanna die..
No one would be evil originary, I think. Only that, too stressful daily lives makes you want to give harsh responces. Vice varsa, like me, leading my life as just as I want won't give such cold responces. And, of cource, I know I may not be spending days for what I'm really suposed to do. So, here, I wan'na say that harsh responces is something we have to accept. Ultimatly, I want to enjoy any kind of responces. Reacting to storm is just enjoyment for stormer. This is the defined theory. Endure till the time when crap responces get erased by write-off team person. Uncastrated threads and responces would be delete someday, I believe. Zam! It would go in that way. Ah, yes, they may not. But don't be too afraid. If there are any personal datas on this board, it'll surely get deleated anyway.
It was ,as far as I remember, in May that I came into contact with 2ch for the first time . What amazed me most was the strange words 2chers use frequently and the funny AAs they show on the thread (,some of which I couldn't help laughing at !!). The former told me their strangeness,pecuriality and even madness, and the latter their creativity and skill . I was also delighted with the variety of the topics 2ch provedes us. On the topics I'm interested in or keen on, I can argue with 2chers all over Japan without revealing my name.(That is, we can speak up without reserve.) Now I'm accustomed to writing on it,2ch is a passtime for me.
you guys sound totally "japanese" here!!!! i feel like i'm reading journals written by jap profs. why don't you guys try to sound a bit more like a native? watch movies and learn.
> 808 言いたかないけど、オマエモナー。俺もだがな。 perhaps our writings are very japanese. but i think it's all right, because we are japanese. it's very important to keep on trying to brush up our english, though.
>>808 >journals written by jap profs I doubt it. Most of us need to work on our grammar to sound like that.
>why don't you guys try to sound a bit more like a native? For what? I'd rather write something sounds like "journals written by jap profs", than "a mumble jumble written by a total bum who's born in the US".
Ok Here is a basic question for you. Don't you look like japanese? How come we should "sound" like a native when everyone knows we are not a native? Do you adore them? Do you want be considered you are an american? How can you possibly not realize you are nothig but one of wanna-bees???
but I do think people should stop posting "what I did today" here. For your info they are boring.
I have a friend. We talked about our futures when we were little kids. She told me that she wanted to be an American. Maybe she didn't even know what exactly does that mean.
Last week, she wrote me that she's got a green card. She really is going to be an American after all. Isn't it wonderful to hear that a childhood dream do come true?
Hi Today I came over because I thought I could use your useful advice here. The other day I went for lunch with my korean friend. She is coming to japan for a couple of months as an exchanging student or something I think. We went to Royal host near the station halfway of my station and her station. then I found she eats with disgasting noise. I am not a snob and usually dont care about table manners but I certainly lost my appetite by hearing her chewing food noisily. I wondered if I should say something to her but as a matter of fact I didnt. I just supposed it could be an arrogant remark if that kind of table manners was acceptable in Korean culture. Still I am not really sure if its good for her if I let her eat like a pig. What would you say if you were in my position?
so you don't know her well enough to caution her table manner. i have in the past cautioned my friend who visited me when i was living abroad about the way he eats spaghetti. but i cautioned him before he did anything as i knew that he was going to slurp up his pasta. it would be kind for you to caution her before she embarasses herself. if she is not stupid as well as having the table manner of a pig then she will appreciate your comments.
>>820 There is a famous saying "When in Rome, do as Romans do." You should've told her for her benefit.
In my personal impression, Chinese and Korean people are very frank. They are people who tell you whatever come to their mind without any hesitation. I think they are use to those kinds of direct conversations. I don't think they will take any of your remarks too personal or as an insult.
I think you are gonna be the one with broken hearted. She might not change the way to eat despite your remark. She might just say, "Oh, I'm sorry but this is how I eat."
Anyway, you should at least try to tell your honest feeling. Otherwise, they will never have the chance to get to know it.
i was thinking the other day about death my friends father died i knew him i have talked to him i have got car rides from him when i was young but i felt nothing i probably won't feel anything if my wife's father dies i shall cry when my dad and mum die but anyone else probably not death is a lonely thing
i am not in good relation with my parents my father is a selfish man. so is my mother. but they acted as if they were perfect. i grew up in a so-called dysfunctional family. i am something like an adult child. i am trying to change myself now, but it seems to be a long journey. by the way, i dont think someone is a cold person if he or she doesnt cry when his or her friends parent dies.
>>830 What about your wife? Aren't you gonna cry if she died?
Crying is not for the dead, it is fo the survivors. You cry when you lost someone you don't dare to lose. You cry for your loss. You cry to heal yourself.
i know. i am growing up now. i feel it. i used to blame parents for my personalities, but that feeling is eventually getting out from me. but i dont want to rush. if i rush myself to grow, i think i would go to a wrong way. disconnecting me from parents and past should be done naturally, i think.
>>821 >>822 Thanx for your kind advice. Actually I am meeting her tommorow evening I will try to let her know if there's an oppotunity. and I will also let you know her reaction. bye
Hi, Well, we went to ginza then had an opportunity talking about table manners. I told her naturally so almost I myself did not realize I am trying to say something which could offend her. She said in her culture the older people are kind of sticky about table manners too (because I told her I was told lots about table manners when I was a child.) but she was not with me because she thought it was a cusual meeting. Still, I think since I had told her she was trying not to make noise while eating. I think we could also make sure every culture has every different rule so it didnot bring any hurt feelings between us. and we talked about the cencership problem of a historical text book too. I could say 'It was a great meeting, fantastic meeting' borrowing from Mr. koizumi
(・∀・) < How come this thread is not popular here? You all dont have anything to say or You are just not capable to write what youd say in english? What? Give me the reason.
>>842 (・∀・) < How come this thread is not popular here? You all dont have anything to say or You are just not capable to write what youd say in english? What? Give me the reason.
>>852 めんどくさかったから I am so so sorry for not being fucking perfect and not taking every little fucking detail in my little life more seriously. I shall be more careful next time. Hope you understand sarcasm, darling.
that's right. it is a super technique to make the first 's' a capital letter. of course, i don't care about that either. and, the guys who follow this thread cannot understand those details.
>>860 Maybe you haven't ever read message boards that are written in English or chatted in English on line. People don't care that much about whether you capitalize letters where you supposed to or not, especially on joky message boards like this one 2ちゃんねる, you know.
i have a girl friend in hk. oneday, she talked to me through ICQ. i accepted her request of adding her into my icq friend list. then for few months, we had been on good terms. but recently i found that she is a little rudeness and has sort of dempa, so i was disgusted. since she has a board into which you can draw a painting, i decided to draw some disgusting picture on it. after we did it, she inquired and suspected me! so i
>>878 most of the pictures are erased. but some of those are still alive. you know king crimson? i guess you know the most popular album jacket of it. a picture like it is there. the erased pictures contained nobita killed by doraemon, and other unmeaningful one.
(・∀・) < I am really happy to know many people back in this thread including english snobs who are never in need of english for real. Anyway, keep working on and it could be a heck of better to this thread if people use ONLY english.
how about choosing a topic that anyone can speak about in english? may be this thread becomes popular by that way. by the way, i cant think of any, so someone think about it, please
if the topic is the one i have never talked about, it is very very difficult to cut in the conversation. for instance, if you don't know much about economics, you may have never used words (phrases) like 'capital accumulation', 'indifferent curve', and so on.
FUCK YOU MUTHA FUCKIN NERD BITCH. WHO ASKED YOU TO CORRECT MY ENGLISH? OR DO YOU JUST HAVE TOO MUCH TIME? CUZ PPZ DON LIKE YOU SINCE YOU BE FUGLY AND NERD DORK ASS BITCH?WELL POOR YOU, i DON BLAME YOU. U CAN JUSS STAY HEA, CORRECT MY SPEELING AND GRAMMAR, TALKIN SHIT ABOUT ME OR WHATEVA YOU WANNA DO. i JUSS TYPED EVERY WORD WRONG ON PURPOSE FOR UYOU MUTHA FUCKA. IF YOU FINISH GO GET YOU DOG SUCK YO PUSSY AS YOU ALWAYS DO CUZ YOU BE SO HORNY BUT U CANT EVEN GET A GUY. SINCE U BE MUTHA FUCKIN UGLYYYY.WHORE I THINK U SHOULD GO BACK TO JAPAN NEWAYZ DON EVEN TELL ME LIKE STUDY HARD OR SUMTHING CUZ IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS AND I THINK AT LEAST I KNOW ENGLISH BETTER THAN FUCKIN YOU BIATCH. PEACE
>>887 I agree with you. I surely believe its important to have many topics when you talk in 2nd language but there are limitations of my ablity for memorizing words then I strted to think if i would have an ablity to say something which i know and keeps conversation going, i mean something which meets these two requirments at the same time, it could be not too much to ask. maybe its the same thing when you speak with your friends in jpn something we can call "communication strategy". But its also true there exsist some topics people talk about daily like sports, cars, bars I do think I should collect info which i can tell people about these daily topics as im doing with jpn friends. What was my point?
>>907 because thats what we learned from english classes in school. plus being polite is not so bad especially when you are speaking foreign language. its quite possible to give a horrible impression if you go "hey man" to strangers.
(゚д゚) < you two sound like totally loser. I know people like you from my friedns. its so typical of you to keep sticking to japanese when people speak in Eng. Get your ass out of here. you self-observation english nerds!
>>895 I reckon the person who wrote 895 is NOT the same person who wrote 858 but if it is please check out the word SARCASM but judging from the way you reacted to some of my anonymous comments after 860 I'm pretty sure that 895 isn't 858.
By the way this thread is really realy crap. I still can't figure out what you guys are trying to achieve here.
Hello, everyone. I am a senior high school student in Japan. I would like to write English because I want to become a diplomat in the future. Please teach me!
Yousuke, your English looks pretty good to me. How's your pronounciation? Now that's the hard bit. Otherwise you are gonna have a hard time during your erection.
Thank you for your reply. I think my pronunciation is good. My teacher says so. But I don't understand what you meant when you said "Otherwise you are gonna have a hard time during your erection."
well, the other day i was invited to my frieds house and i figured out i dont have many things to talk about. my friend is a nice person so he was trying to keep conversation i felt so sorry for him. its about my english or ablity for controlling conversation topic i dont know. Finally he asked my hobby! it was embrassing to be asked "whats your hobby?" out of the class room. it suggests we have nothing to talk about. right?
to my surprise I couldnt answer it. i mean do you usually think what is your hobby? i remember i went like "wacthing movies reading like that" and i do think this would lead the end of conversation. and I started to even think by any chance am i not good at having conversation with in japanese too??
To my surprise, I was not able to answer it. I mean, are you always conscious what your hobby is? I remember I've said something like this: "I like watching movies, reading books etc.." ,which ended the conversation quickly. Now I even started suspecting my communicating ablity with other people including Japanese. Maybe it's not a matter of my poor knowledge of English, but can be that of my own communication skills.
my friend is playing a boxing match morrow. it would be his debut so im going to osaka prefectural gym to cheer him up.whoa!im getting excited. i bet hell win the match. he is left handed,and he had had some difficulty in finding opponent .anyway,im out.
hey!what you guys talking bout?garmmar is nothing. you just try to say what you really want to say. for instance, i got a fax from canada to-day. he made some mistake like "im looking forward to see you brah".its okay you non native speakers make funny lovely mistakes.beefeaters say "go down the pub" instead of "go down to the pub"(wara
>>964 Some of those practiced introducing himself for the 1st grade of eikenn would know how deliver interesting explanation their hobbies. Social topics is rather difficult. But also, just talking hobbies tends to be verbose thing, right. And, here, 2ch tends to ditest harmonious feeling, "Nareai". It would be also majour reason we don't to post to this thread. In real life, when you talk to someone, normally, you would ask the things which someone you talk to would be found of. You won't talk about your hobbies at first, but ask.
>>965 It reminds me of TV, Gachinko. Boxing is exciting sports to see, yes.
>976 Posting to this board and studing along "Yasabiji。"
I see. I think thats the point Ive been stuck. If you dont know the words and phrases to talk one certain topic, you are not able to join the conversation. Does anyone have useful suggestion to this problem?
i got really important test coming up tommorrow. ohhh mannn, i'm scared to get failed. have you guys who has studied in usa or some where not in japan ever gotten a F grade? question.is that true that if you got any F grade on your record you wouldn't be able to transfer to any other school. somebody answer me,please........
well, i cant get no sleeeeeeeep!so bad.i usually fool around in the nite time to relax.tv sux,women boring. i rather play a trick on nards like u.haha.
>>980 I was studying by using yasabiji then I quit because I thoguht the words and expressions used in that text book were little bit exaggerated. But it would be a good idea using that text book to know the topic we can talk.
>>980 ill teach you a good word"pugilism" i didnt use it in case nobody undeastand it. box often make weakers nose shorten like pug. pugilism originally came from this.take care.