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1 ：名無しさん＠１周年：
Let me hear your opinion about
"why japanese people have so much inferiority complex
in their English abilities".
I suppose that is a reflection of an image
Japanese people have for US.
They evaluate its culture and admire it too much.
"why japanese people have so much inferiority complex
in their English abilities".
I suppose that is a reflection of an image
Japanese people have for US.
They evaluate its culture and admire it too much.
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2 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/12(土) 03:09
aa
3 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/12(土) 03:16
We've been there, done that. Many, many times (failed miserably each time). So why even go there again?
4 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/12(土) 04:11
Cuz they speak English.
Japs don't speak English, they speak Engrish.
6 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/12(土) 10:04
No we japs speak ingrish
7 ：名無しさん＠１周年 ：2001/05/12(土) 11:08
Well I guess we are programmed to study English inevitably.
We ought to face the fact; here in Japan so many people are studying English nowadays.
Our inferior complex that is given might provide the demand of the thing
by post of war 2’s America doctrine for Japanese government
We ought to face the fact; here in Japan so many people are studying English nowadays.
Our inferior complex that is given might provide the demand of the thing
by post of war 2’s America doctrine for Japanese government
8 ：JaJa：2001/05/12(土) 11:53
Mesa no speaken Engrisha!
>9
kagayake! to iterunokato omotayo...
kagayake! to iterunokato omotayo...
11 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/13(日) 00:27
We japanese suck up on someone who speaks English fluently.
and think they must be something.
But English is a just tool to communicate with people
from other countries.
If you have nothing to say to these people even in Japanese,
how can you speak that in English??
>7
That's most common opinion Ive heard so far. But I dont believe it.
Because the occupation peiod of US in japan, it's like 50 years ago.
and I dont think weve been dragging these influences until now.
and think they must be something.
But English is a just tool to communicate with people
from other countries.
If you have nothing to say to these people even in Japanese,
how can you speak that in English??
>7
That's most common opinion Ive heard so far. But I dont believe it.
Because the occupation peiod of US in japan, it's like 50 years ago.
and I dont think weve been dragging these influences until now.
12 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/13(日) 00:31
>>11 One does not suck up "on" someone else but suck up "to" someone else.
Other than that, I wholeheartedly agree with what you're saying.
Other than that, I wholeheartedly agree with what you're saying.
13 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/13(日) 00:37
>12
Sorry, thanks for correcting.
Sorry, thanks for correcting.
14 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/13(日) 11:46
輝け！
15 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/13(日) 13:50
In addition to the above explanation, I would say taht the pronounciation of the Japanese is strange to the natives a little.
I think that is the factor which further militates against the motive of us to speak English.
I think that is the factor which further militates against the motive of us to speak English.
16 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/13(日) 14:07
ちょっとしか違わないの？？？？？？？？？
17 ：名無しさん＠１周年 ：2001/05/13(日) 14:45
18 ：saba：2001/05/13(日) 14:59
i may weep openly
19 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/13(日) 16:17
Pronunciation is not as important as stress or intonation. If you don't put stress on the proper part of the word, you won't be understood, even if you have an excellent pronunciation.
>>11
yup
>>15
nope
youre only seeing it from the japanese side .
there are much more people who speak weird english
and japanese katakana-english is only one of them .
i think katakana-english is much more easy-to-understand
than aussie english because my english is new york
or new england english .
>>19
you call that an excellent pronunciation ?
yup
>>15
nope
youre only seeing it from the japanese side .
there are much more people who speak weird english
and japanese katakana-english is only one of them .
i think katakana-english is much more easy-to-understand
than aussie english because my english is new york
or new england english .
>>19
you call that an excellent pronunciation ?
21 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/13(日) 17:59
>20
I guess you are right.
Dont stick too much to your pronunciation.
English is a second language unless you were grown up
in english countiries even if you would be making great efforts
to speak as a native.
If you get the point of how to convey your intension to others
in english, it is not a big deal you are pronunciation is excellent or not.
I guess you are right.
Dont stick too much to your pronunciation.
English is a second language unless you were grown up
in english countiries even if you would be making great efforts
to speak as a native.
If you get the point of how to convey your intension to others
in english, it is not a big deal you are pronunciation is excellent or not.
22 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/13(日) 18:01
<21 you are→ your
23 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/13(日) 18:09
Hello!
I’m the one who wrote NO.7
Good day isn’t it?
I’m still in a day because I went to some nightclub and discussed
the matter that we are confronted with my friends.
A friend of mine he is American who is high school teacher
came and talked me about his thought,
he said that I don’tCare anything what you are thinking
about America have been dominant influence to Japanese.
Though if you feel so,It’s not my problem.
Maybe it is public opinion that all of Japanese have.
Be honest I don’t know what America did to Japanese.”
When I heard of his saying. I was little confused.
Here in Japan when it comes to talking about the bilateral.
Apparently we are too much conscious to the relationship.
Comparing which means have me say that America people Do not always
pay attention what Japan says.
Their attention is obviously heading to Europe countries
on the ground of Their cultural background.
Therefore the bottom line is... I would say we don’t have to convert
our culture into American’s culture.
We don’t need to feel about the inferior complex.
They don’t care whether Japanese feel about it or not..
Off cause now that the international language demand have been increasing rapidly.
Seems like it is to be continue.
See you later guys !
I’m the one who wrote NO.7
Good day isn’t it?
I’m still in a day because I went to some nightclub and discussed
the matter that we are confronted with my friends.
A friend of mine he is American who is high school teacher
came and talked me about his thought,
he said that I don’tCare anything what you are thinking
about America have been dominant influence to Japanese.
Though if you feel so,It’s not my problem.
Maybe it is public opinion that all of Japanese have.
Be honest I don’t know what America did to Japanese.”
When I heard of his saying. I was little confused.
Here in Japan when it comes to talking about the bilateral.
Apparently we are too much conscious to the relationship.
Comparing which means have me say that America people Do not always
pay attention what Japan says.
Their attention is obviously heading to Europe countries
on the ground of Their cultural background.
Therefore the bottom line is... I would say we don’t have to convert
our culture into American’s culture.
We don’t need to feel about the inferior complex.
They don’t care whether Japanese feel about it or not..
Off cause now that the international language demand have been increasing rapidly.
Seems like it is to be continue.
See you later guys !
24 ：名無しさん＠1周年：2001/05/13(日) 18:23
sorry, i cant catch what you mean. I dont want to be too picky, but
please be more careful in your grammar. My understanding is that
"we, japanese, do not have to adjust ourselves to american way,
because they, american people, dont care about us very much."
Is it right? Does it make sense?
please be more careful in your grammar. My understanding is that
"we, japanese, do not have to adjust ourselves to american way,
because they, american people, dont care about us very much."
Is it right? Does it make sense?
25 ：名無しさん：2001/05/13(日) 21:46
>>24
Thank you for pointing out my messy english so please let me know what went wrong.
you might be better than i.
Thank you for pointing out my messy english so please let me know what went wrong.
you might be better than i.
26 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/14(月) 00:02
>23
I just dont get it at all.
Your standing point is like We dont have to have inferiority
complex about our english abilities BECAUSE they Americans
never care about our feelings? Of course, not.
The inferiority complexes that we have for english are obviously
our problems. You dont have to care if some chinese men
who live in Japan feel inferiority complexes about their japanese.
So, we care because we pay attention for
what they think about japan so much.
but They never care something they dont have to do with.
"I dont care "is really typical prase for expressing americans.
I just dont get it at all.
Your standing point is like We dont have to have inferiority
complex about our english abilities BECAUSE they Americans
never care about our feelings? Of course, not.
The inferiority complexes that we have for english are obviously
our problems. You dont have to care if some chinese men
who live in Japan feel inferiority complexes about their japanese.
So, we care because we pay attention for
what they think about japan so much.
but They never care something they dont have to do with.
"I dont care "is really typical prase for expressing americans.
27 ：名無しさん＠１周年 ：2001/05/14(月) 09:13
Hi all!
I have been studying English for a while.
Very naturally, I have many English speaking or learning friends.
Some time, I hear same kind of opinions like above posts, say:
"Inferior complex toward USA makes Japanese people study English so
desperately."
I have to say "Oh yeah? Is that so?"
I mean, what the hell are you talking about?
Have you studied mathematics because of your inferior complex toward
Einstein or someone like that?
C'mon guys! Someone may want to think that way. But never take it as
a general opinion of entire Japanese people because it is so untrue.
I have been studying English for a while.
Very naturally, I have many English speaking or learning friends.
Some time, I hear same kind of opinions like above posts, say:
"Inferior complex toward USA makes Japanese people study English so
desperately."
I have to say "Oh yeah? Is that so?"
I mean, what the hell are you talking about?
Have you studied mathematics because of your inferior complex toward
Einstein or someone like that?
C'mon guys! Someone may want to think that way. But never take it as
a general opinion of entire Japanese people because it is so untrue.
English (or any other language, for that matter) is merely a means of
communication. No more or no less than that. There are some things I'd
like to say about the English education system in Japan, but that's a
completely different topic.
communication. No more or no less than that. There are some things I'd
like to say about the English education system in Japan, but that's a
completely different topic.
29 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/14(月) 10:08
英語、またはその他の原語、との事件のためには、は、単に飲みニケーションの意味です。
あれのそれ以上、またはそれ以下無し。私が言いたいいくつかの事があります日本の英語の教育のシステムについて、
しかし、あれは完璧に違う問題です。
あれのそれ以上、またはそれ以下無し。私が言いたいいくつかの事があります日本の英語の教育のシステムについて、
しかし、あれは完璧に違う問題です。
30 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/14(月) 10:17
Hello all! Especially >>27 >>26
At the beginning I would like to show you my appreciation.
I’m glad to talk to you
Because I’ve been coming to 2Ch since I found.
It is the first time that I have productive talking.
I convince that you think same way.
Even we have different viewpoint.
So let me clear a few cases,
which are founded from my fieldwork in ordinary scene.
1.why some of Japanese ladies are so gullible
when they are asked out to foreigners?
Do you know what white people define those who people?
2.Why many Japanese young mothers are rushing
to get their child to study English so younger age
even the child has not handled enough our native tongue.
3.Why some Japanese guys want to have make love white girl?
My opinion might not be general.
Even though I saw so many the cases.
Thanks.
At the beginning I would like to show you my appreciation.
I’m glad to talk to you
Because I’ve been coming to 2Ch since I found.
It is the first time that I have productive talking.
I convince that you think same way.
Even we have different viewpoint.
So let me clear a few cases,
which are founded from my fieldwork in ordinary scene.
1.why some of Japanese ladies are so gullible
when they are asked out to foreigners?
Do you know what white people define those who people?
2.Why many Japanese young mothers are rushing
to get their child to study English so younger age
even the child has not handled enough our native tongue.
3.Why some Japanese guys want to have make love white girl?
My opinion might not be general.
Even though I saw so many the cases.
Thanks.
31 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/14(月) 10:50
>>3.Why some Japanese guys want to have make love white girl?
I guess they are just being curious.
Y'know, wondering how it is like to do with blonde girls.
Seems nothing wrong with that to me.
I guess they are just being curious.
Y'know, wondering how it is like to do with blonde girls.
Seems nothing wrong with that to me.
32 ：名無しさん＠そうだ選挙にいこう：2001/05/14(月) 10:54
こんにちは全て！特に２７と２６。
まず始めに私は私の感謝をここで述べなければなりません
私はあなたと話せて良かったです
なぜならば私は発見以来２ｃｈに来続けていたからです。
生産的な話を持つのはこれが初めてです。
私はあなたが同じ道を考えることを信念です。
例え違う視点を持っていたとしてもデス。
そう、私にいくつかの容器をきれいにさせてください、
どちらが私の原っぱの仕事の普通の感覚を設立しましたか？
まず始めに私は私の感謝をここで述べなければなりません
私はあなたと話せて良かったです
なぜならば私は発見以来２ｃｈに来続けていたからです。
生産的な話を持つのはこれが初めてです。
私はあなたが同じ道を考えることを信念です。
例え違う視点を持っていたとしてもデス。
そう、私にいくつかの容器をきれいにさせてください、
どちらが私の原っぱの仕事の普通の感覚を設立しましたか？
33 ：Hi! I am Natti（ ● ´ ー ｀ ● ）：2001/05/14(月) 12:39
Hi! I am Natti（ ● ´ ー ｀ ● ）
34 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/14(月) 14:10
Hi,
Im not so sure we have inferiority complex to US.
The answer for this question, it depends on people.
But clearly, we have one to our english.
Its quite obvious, isnt it?
How many people are studying english right now
devoiding of opportunity or plans for using it?
and we are really sheepish to follow this third English boom
in Japan blindly.
But, I guess we cant blame people who are saying
"Japan is becoming an internatinal so that you should make
your kid learn English as soon as possible".
Because we ,more or less, feel enviousness of people who speaks
english fluently next to you. This follows we take English
for really common way to make good reputation of yourself.
You can make people jealousy by using it.
Im not so sure we have inferiority complex to US.
The answer for this question, it depends on people.
But clearly, we have one to our english.
Its quite obvious, isnt it?
How many people are studying english right now
devoiding of opportunity or plans for using it?
and we are really sheepish to follow this third English boom
in Japan blindly.
But, I guess we cant blame people who are saying
"Japan is becoming an internatinal so that you should make
your kid learn English as soon as possible".
Because we ,more or less, feel enviousness of people who speaks
english fluently next to you. This follows we take English
for really common way to make good reputation of yourself.
You can make people jealousy by using it.
35 ：24：2001/05/14(月) 14:19
>> 28
> English (or any other language, for that matter) is merely a means of
> communication.
I completely agree with that. But, at the same time, I think it's
possible that the incentive to study English is from his/her
personal inferior complex. For instance, one may start studying
English, if he/she has been made fun of by an American, to strike
back. A certain number of English learners could have this kind of
experience, I suppose. Indeed, I have been embarassed many times
because of my poor English. Those experiences have made me study
English harder.
> English (or any other language, for that matter) is merely a means of
> communication.
I completely agree with that. But, at the same time, I think it's
possible that the incentive to study English is from his/her
personal inferior complex. For instance, one may start studying
English, if he/she has been made fun of by an American, to strike
back. A certain number of English learners could have this kind of
experience, I suppose. Indeed, I have been embarassed many times
because of my poor English. Those experiences have made me study
English harder.
36 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/14(月) 14:24
>35
That's good motivation a bit twisted though..
That's good motivation a bit twisted though..
37 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/15(火) 10:09
Yo guys guys how many times do we have to talk about same thing ?
We don't need to feel the inferior complex do we ?
We don't need to feel the inferior complex do we ?
38 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/15(火) 11:10
Yeah! You're absolutely right!
39 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/15(火) 12:07
Casually I think this thread has become great!
Because dropped off people may not catch up with this topic.
Because dropped off people may not catch up with this topic.
40 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/15(火) 12:56
>39
huh??dropped off people??
i bet lots of us just fed up with this sort of conversation.
thats all.
huh??dropped off people??
i bet lots of us just fed up with this sort of conversation.
thats all.
41 ：駐在員：2001/05/15(火) 12:58
42 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/15(火) 13:44
alright,
why dont we change the topic?
how about..
Do you really need this language?
why dont we change the topic?
how about..
Do you really need this language?
43 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/15(火) 16:39
That depends on what you mean by "this language”.
Is that supposed to be Japanese or English?
Is that supposed to be Japanese or English?
44 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/16(水) 09:33
phew. my driving license got suspended for 30 funckn' days.
what am i gonna do?
what am i gonna do?
45 ：名無しさん：2001/05/16(水) 09:36
うんこしてえええ
47 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/16(水) 10:02
Yes, it is.
48 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/16(水) 13:06
49 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/16(水) 13:52
>43
English
What do need to learn English for??
From what ive known, some japanese congressmen said
English should be the common language in Japan
a couple o years ago.
What happaned to that propopal?
English
What do need to learn English for??
From what ive known, some japanese congressmen said
English should be the common language in Japan
a couple o years ago.
What happaned to that propopal?
50 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/16(水) 14:33
Oh My Manko!!
51 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/16(水) 16:00
Well, what you are saying is very straightforward and easy to understand.
Yet very twisted, though.
My only question now is, what the heck are you writing that kind of
comments in English if you think it is totally unnecessary for us
to learn it in the first place.
I mean why not?
Yet very twisted, though.
My only question now is, what the heck are you writing that kind of
comments in English if you think it is totally unnecessary for us
to learn it in the first place.
I mean why not?
52 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/16(水) 16:14
'Cause I say so.
53 ：奥さまは名無しさん：2001/05/16(水) 16:24
54 ：奥さまは名無しさん：2001/05/16(水) 16:24
55 ：nanasiさん＠１周年：2001/05/16(水) 16:33
Hello~!!
I'm Japanese!
I'm Japanese!
56 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/16(水) 16:42
57 ：nanasiさん＠１周年：2001/05/16(水) 19:45
58 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/16(水) 20:44
fuk my ass
59 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/16(水) 20:57
They love English.
Because its something make themselves look good.
They all say
"I scored 900 at TOEIC or I was exchanging student in univ
I know this word. I understand this book without translation..."
Those are all bullshit.
They never use English in front of people
cause' they are too pussy and scared of being made fool of.
I have no interest in your accessory-like English.
Go tta hell suckers!!
Because its something make themselves look good.
They all say
"I scored 900 at TOEIC or I was exchanging student in univ
I know this word. I understand this book without translation..."
Those are all bullshit.
They never use English in front of people
cause' they are too pussy and scared of being made fool of.
I have no interest in your accessory-like English.
Go tta hell suckers!!
60 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/17(木) 08:14
>>59 get the fuck outta here
61 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/17(木) 09:55
People boast their some English score
as if they were somebody.
But on the whole the people who study English enthusiastically
There are no chances to talk to English people.
It’s very funny things here that the people are too afraid
to make mistake.
Seems as if they were a kind of organic tape-recorder.
These domestic products, which are invented by terrible Japanese English
Education program often case malfunction.
But please forgive them.
So far they have no choice but practice themselves.
You know what?
They didn’t qualify member of society
as if they were somebody.
But on the whole the people who study English enthusiastically
There are no chances to talk to English people.
It’s very funny things here that the people are too afraid
to make mistake.
Seems as if they were a kind of organic tape-recorder.
These domestic products, which are invented by terrible Japanese English
Education program often case malfunction.
But please forgive them.
So far they have no choice but practice themselves.
You know what?
They didn’t qualify member of society
62 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/17(木) 10:21
Hey guys!! Stop talking about the shit!!
Who cares when we make a mistake!!???
hey61!!!
we r not afraid of making mistakes!!
U know the saying" failure is a mother of invention!"
so pls!!!
Stop blaming each other!! you know...thats sad and strange!!
We r all Japanese who r studying english.
we should encourage and help each other!!
i think those who r saying those bullshit to others are not afraid
of speaking eng..but we have to admit there are some who r!!!
you know...it sounds ridiculous when you say " i know you are
afraid of making mistake so that u cant have a convasation
with foreigner!! Am i wrong??!!!"""
FK it!! Dont listen to those guys who r saying....
"JP are..bla bla bla..."
Who cares when we make a mistake!!???
hey61!!!
we r not afraid of making mistakes!!
U know the saying" failure is a mother of invention!"
so pls!!!
Stop blaming each other!! you know...thats sad and strange!!
We r all Japanese who r studying english.
we should encourage and help each other!!
i think those who r saying those bullshit to others are not afraid
of speaking eng..but we have to admit there are some who r!!!
you know...it sounds ridiculous when you say " i know you are
afraid of making mistake so that u cant have a convasation
with foreigner!! Am i wrong??!!!"""
FK it!! Dont listen to those guys who r saying....
"JP are..bla bla bla..."
63 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/17(木) 11:28
おい！人!!糞について話すことをやめて下さい!!
我々が間違い!!???を作るときに、誰が世話をするか
hey６１!!!
我々rはミスをすることを恐れません!!
Uは、言動「失敗は、発明の母だ!」を知っています
したがって、pls !!!
互いに非難することをやめて下さい!!あなた悲しい、また不思議なknow...thats !!
我々全く日本のr誰englishを研究するr。
我々は、互いに励まして助けるべきです!!
iがそれらを思います恐れる他者へのそれらのたわごとをいうrが誰でないか
、我々がいくらか(の人)がいるということを認める必要があるeng..butを話します誰r !!!
あなたあなたが" iがあなたを知っていると言うばからしいサウンドがそうであるknow...it
uが傾けるところでは、convasationを持っているそのようにミスをすることを恐れます
外国人と!!i悪です??!!!「"
FKそれ!!Dontがそれらの人を耳を傾けます誰....をいうr
「JPare..bla bla bla ...」
我々が間違い!!???を作るときに、誰が世話をするか
hey６１!!!
我々rはミスをすることを恐れません!!
Uは、言動「失敗は、発明の母だ!」を知っています
したがって、pls !!!
互いに非難することをやめて下さい!!あなた悲しい、また不思議なknow...thats !!
我々全く日本のr誰englishを研究するr。
我々は、互いに励まして助けるべきです!!
iがそれらを思います恐れる他者へのそれらのたわごとをいうrが誰でないか
、我々がいくらか(の人)がいるということを認める必要があるeng..butを話します誰r !!!
あなたあなたが" iがあなたを知っていると言うばからしいサウンドがそうであるknow...it
uが傾けるところでは、convasationを持っているそのようにミスをすることを恐れます
外国人と!!i悪です??!!!「"
FKそれ!!Dontがそれらの人を耳を傾けます誰....をいうr
「JPare..bla bla bla ...」
65 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/17(木) 12:57
Yeah! Way to go 62!
Why cant we be just friends and help each other.
The very basic thing of all is to have some fun here, I guess
Why cant we be just friends and help each other.
The very basic thing of all is to have some fun here, I guess
66 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/17(木) 13:08
うん!６２になる方法!
なぜ我々がちょうど友であって互いに助ける口先だけの言葉。
すべてのそのとても基礎的なことは、ここではある面白いことを持っているはず(こと，予定)だと、私は推測します
なぜ我々がちょうど友であって互いに助ける口先だけの言葉。
すべてのそのとても基礎的なことは、ここではある面白いことを持っているはず(こと，予定)だと、私は推測します
67 ：Rising 6：2001/05/17(木) 13:44
By the way...
When I use English, sometimes it makes me so dull that I wonder how I can express my inner feelings with correct adjective for instance, though communication is running through to each other on real time. Well...that might be caused from my environment that I haven't been grown up with speaking in English.
At such moment, I used to find that there are a decisive difference in feeling between people who speak English and us who speak Japanese, and I remember a wise saying that says "when you speak English, think everything in English.".
I think most of Japanese people have heard that once at least. The saying "think everything in English" has another meaning that says "abandon one for accepting another one."
We have to consider about this issue.
I think, "abandon one for accepting another one" means not only forces everyone to accept but also makes people to stand at another point of others.
Isn't it "OMOIYARI（思いやり）"？
Even so, a party does not accept our opinion's existence, unless we insist very strongly...ugh!!
Do you ask me what a party is??
hahaha 連中のことさ。．．．って言うかいろいろか。
thanx!!
When I use English, sometimes it makes me so dull that I wonder how I can express my inner feelings with correct adjective for instance, though communication is running through to each other on real time. Well...that might be caused from my environment that I haven't been grown up with speaking in English.
At such moment, I used to find that there are a decisive difference in feeling between people who speak English and us who speak Japanese, and I remember a wise saying that says "when you speak English, think everything in English.".
I think most of Japanese people have heard that once at least. The saying "think everything in English" has another meaning that says "abandon one for accepting another one."
We have to consider about this issue.
I think, "abandon one for accepting another one" means not only forces everyone to accept but also makes people to stand at another point of others.
Isn't it "OMOIYARI（思いやり）"？
Even so, a party does not accept our opinion's existence, unless we insist very strongly...ugh!!
Do you ask me what a party is??
hahaha 連中のことさ。．．．って言うかいろいろか。
thanx!!
またどっかのドキュソが翻訳ソフトにかけるのかな？
70 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/17(木) 19:58
Sorry,Japanese only.
But LINK FREE!!!
But LINK FREE!!!
71 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/17(木) 20:50
ついでながら...
私が英語を使うときに、時々、私がどのように私がコミュニケーションがリアルタイムのお互いに通しているにもかかわらずたとえば私の正しい形容詞をもつ内側の感情を表すことができるかをあれこれ考えることが、私をとても鈍くします。Well...thatは、私の環境から私が(今まで)英語で談話をもつ成人でないことを引き起こされるでしょう。
このような瞬間で、私は、よくそこが英語を話す人々と我々との間で、誰が日本人(語)を話すかを触って調べるときに決定的な違いだとわかりました、そして、私は、「あなたが英語を話すときに、英語ですべてを思って下さい」と言う金言を思い出します。
私は、ほとんどの日本人の人々が少なくともあの時だけは聞いたと思います。「英語ですべてを思う」と言うことが「もう一つの１(人)を受け入れることには１を放棄して下さい」。と言うもう一つの意味を持っています
我々は、この問題について熟考する必要があります。
私は思います、「もう一つの１(人)を受け入れることには１を放棄する」は、他者のもう１ポイントの数値であるために、単なる力ではない(もの)にすべての受け入れる人を意味して、さらに人々を作ります。
それがそうではありませんか」OMOIYARI（思いやり）"？
たとえそうでも、パーティーは、我々がまさにそのstrongly...ughを主張することがない限り、我々の意見の存在を受け入れません!!
あなたは、私に，パーティーが何かとたずねますか??
hahaha 連中のことさ。．．．って言うかいろいろか。
thanx !!
私が英語を使うときに、時々、私がどのように私がコミュニケーションがリアルタイムのお互いに通しているにもかかわらずたとえば私の正しい形容詞をもつ内側の感情を表すことができるかをあれこれ考えることが、私をとても鈍くします。Well...thatは、私の環境から私が(今まで)英語で談話をもつ成人でないことを引き起こされるでしょう。
このような瞬間で、私は、よくそこが英語を話す人々と我々との間で、誰が日本人(語)を話すかを触って調べるときに決定的な違いだとわかりました、そして、私は、「あなたが英語を話すときに、英語ですべてを思って下さい」と言う金言を思い出します。
私は、ほとんどの日本人の人々が少なくともあの時だけは聞いたと思います。「英語ですべてを思う」と言うことが「もう一つの１(人)を受け入れることには１を放棄して下さい」。と言うもう一つの意味を持っています
我々は、この問題について熟考する必要があります。
私は思います、「もう一つの１(人)を受け入れることには１を放棄する」は、他者のもう１ポイントの数値であるために、単なる力ではない(もの)にすべての受け入れる人を意味して、さらに人々を作ります。
それがそうではありませんか」OMOIYARI（思いやり）"？
たとえそうでも、パーティーは、我々がまさにそのstrongly...ughを主張することがない限り、我々の意見の存在を受け入れません!!
あなたは、私に，パーティーが何かとたずねますか??
hahaha 連中のことさ。．．．って言うかいろいろか。
thanx !!
72 ：名無しさん：2001/05/18(金) 03:56
let's Get a fuck out of here,cos there is no one speak for your self.
73 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/18(金) 08:11
This is truly interesting.
Even though, this is supposed to be English BBS,
English only threads never survived here.
Not single one ever.
Even though, this is supposed to be English BBS,
English only threads never survived here.
Not single one ever.
74 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/18(金) 09:16
これは本当に面白いです。
さえとしても、これは、イギリスのBBSであるはずです、
イギリスの唯一のスレッドは、決してここから生き延びませんでした。
一つでない１(人)今までに。
さえとしても、これは、イギリスのBBSであるはずです、
イギリスの唯一のスレッドは、決してここから生き延びませんでした。
一つでない１(人)今までに。
75 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/18(金) 09:45
↑You having any fun?
I guess no one here appreciate your shity straight-out-from-translation-software Japanese.
Would you pls cut that shit off now?
I guess no one here appreciate your shity straight-out-from-translation-software Japanese.
Would you pls cut that shit off now?
76 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/18(金) 10:38
いくらかの(どんな)面白いことを持っている↑You ?
私がここに，あなたのshityが評価する誰も推測しませんまっすぐ--外へ翻訳からの--ソフトウェア日本人(語)。
あなたがするでしょうかplsは、今その糞を切り取りました?
私がここに，あなたのshityが評価する誰も推測しませんまっすぐ--外へ翻訳からの--ソフトウェア日本人(語)。
あなたがするでしょうかplsは、今その糞を切り取りました?
＞今その糞を切り取りました?
名訳！
名訳！
78 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/18(金) 11:38
輝け！
80 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/18(金) 13:08
ＩＢＭの翻訳も捨ててもんじゃないな！
81 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/18(金) 13:18
82 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/18(金) 13:26
>>72 Plus, Get THE fuck out of here.
No one speakS.
you should focus on verb conjugation and an article.
No one speakS.
you should focus on verb conjugation and an article.
83 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/18(金) 13:34
let's Get the fuck out of here,cos there is no one speaks for yourself.
THX !
Am i right?
THX !
Am i right?
84 ：モーソーロバートンソ：2001/05/18(金) 14:06
ここで(に)、そこが誰も自分のことだけを話さないということであるコサインから性交を取り出しましょう。
THX !
正しくiです?
THX !
正しくiです?
85 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/18(金) 14:07
＞そこが誰も自分のことだけを話さないということであるコサインから性交を取り出しましょう。
またもや名訳登場！（火暴ｗ！
またもや名訳登場！（火暴ｗ！
86 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/18(金) 14:20
Kiss My Ass Baby!!
87 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/18(金) 14:26
なんとなく名スレの予感がする。
88 ：82：2001/05/18(金) 15:38
ついでに、for yourselfが何を意味しているか不明。
yourself は一般プロナウンなのか１の事を言っているのか、
１の事を言っているのだったら、使い方間違ってます。
yourself は一般プロナウンなのか１の事を言っているのか、
１の事を言っているのだったら、使い方間違ってます。
89 ：82：2001/05/18(金) 15:45
もーそーロバートさん面白いから、
もっとやって。
もっとやって。
90 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/18(金) 20:58
>一般プロナウン って ナニ？？？？？ 意味不明！！！！！
91 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 07:54
>from87to90
We don' needya here.
All bunch of guys who misunderstood an intention of this thread,
gotta hell out o' here.
Go for another place to find somebody plays with U.
>89
I dont like your twisted mind
You must be a big twisted fuck has no one whom plays around with.
Its such a pity that youre such a disgusting shit.
We don' needya here.
All bunch of guys who misunderstood an intention of this thread,
gotta hell out o' here.
Go for another place to find somebody plays with U.
>89
I dont like your twisted mind
You must be a big twisted fuck has no one whom plays around with.
Its such a pity that youre such a disgusting shit.
92 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 08:30
93 ：92：2001/05/19(土) 08:40
I suck what??
Poor.
Poor.
94 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 09:06
92-93
this kid is a real snot, somebody oughtta
smack his ass!
even his gripe is spastic lol!
92-91 Fuck it ! you should get outta here ! tiger
this kid is a real snot, somebody oughtta
smack his ass!
even his gripe is spastic lol!
92-91 Fuck it ! you should get outta here ! tiger
95 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 09:14
93って、91の間違いだろ（ｗ
アホだ。
しかも、どうやらSuckの使い方知らないようだ（ﾜﾗ
まあ、名前間違うアホだから仕方ないよね（プ
アホだ。
しかも、どうやらSuckの使い方知らないようだ（ﾜﾗ
まあ、名前間違うアホだから仕方ないよね（プ
96 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 09:33
97 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 09:37
98 ：≠96：2001/05/19(土) 09:55
↑non educated.
non logical.
Suck: [IT]
Sucker: [N]
non logical.
Suck: [IT]
Sucker: [N]
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100 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 10:06
Back off (son of a) bitch!
101 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 10:14
望み通りに、このスレが荒れてくれたので、ぼくは本望でし。 ﾔﾀﾈ!
102 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 11:20
Here is for english only thread. if you can't hadle to speak english,
you don't have any rightment to writre here.
i do you a favor to write some in japanese for just in case.
ここは英語だけだよ、もし英語で話せないなら何も書く権利はないよ。
もしもの為に親切に日本語で書いておくけど。
you don't have any rightment to writre here.
i do you a favor to write some in japanese for just in case.
ここは英語だけだよ、もし英語で話せないなら何も書く権利はないよ。
もしもの為に親切に日本語で書いておくけど。
103 ：nanashi：2001/05/19(土) 11:29
cheeky bastards. you all suck. btw, is the above message
english? look like a dictionary is in need...
english? look like a dictionary is in need...
104 ：名無しさん＠１周年 ：2001/05/19(土) 11:48
102
の英文は・・・・・
の英文は・・・・・
105 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 11:59
Well Well. at last you can write englisht
I didn't see that you do it.good to hear that,
though it's a little bit funny, because it seemS your english is
out of order. hahaha !
you've gotta need DICKtionary!
seems you're fago.
I'm not in a mood to mention your mistakes but you drived it.
I didn't see that you do it.good to hear that,
though it's a little bit funny, because it seemS your english is
out of order. hahaha !
you've gotta need DICKtionary!
seems you're fago.
I'm not in a mood to mention your mistakes but you drived it.
106 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 12:01
it's kinda funny that everyone's "cursing English" is nearly perfect.
if you all could study the normal words as well, you wouldn't have
such a problem.
Anyway, I don't think fighting on a BBS will really improve your English.
...Unless your reason to learn English is to get into a fight with an
American or British or Australian or whoever.
if you all could study the normal words as well, you wouldn't have
such a problem.
Anyway, I don't think fighting on a BBS will really improve your English.
...Unless your reason to learn English is to get into a fight with an
American or British or Australian or whoever.
107 ：82：2001/05/19(土) 12:05
yeah, you really need A dictionary.
>>91 I just corrected some of mistakes that someone made.
わっつ ろーん〜？
>>91 I just corrected some of mistakes that someone made.
わっつ ろーん〜？
108 ：82：2001/05/19(土) 12:14
Also I noticed some of you who are writing in this thread
are using really bad English like 13 or 14 year old kids.
Are you learning English from chatting on the internet?
It is not very healthy to learn English from kids on
the net. You will never be able to speak mature English.
When you talk to someone who is the same age, you just sound stupid.
are using really bad English like 13 or 14 year old kids.
Are you learning English from chatting on the internet?
It is not very healthy to learn English from kids on
the net. You will never be able to speak mature English.
When you talk to someone who is the same age, you just sound stupid.
109 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 12:16
>>106
Thank for mentioning it
But what I’m doing here is just to make sure
how to work my English When I am in trouble
to against nitwits like NO.97
While I feel somehow remorse that I participate in this thread.
Because as long as in this tread
I could have been in more rational.
Thank for mentioning it
But what I’m doing here is just to make sure
how to work my English When I am in trouble
to against nitwits like NO.97
While I feel somehow remorse that I participate in this thread.
Because as long as in this tread
I could have been in more rational.
110 ：106：2001/05/19(土) 12:25
Alright 109, I know what you mean. But for me, this thread
is more comedy relief than a learning experience.
Don't let your brain rot with all these naughty words! :-)
You seem too reasonable to let that happen.
is more comedy relief than a learning experience.
Don't let your brain rot with all these naughty words! :-)
You seem too reasonable to let that happen.
111 ：106：2001/05/19(土) 12:29
言っとくけど、８２＝１０６だから。１０６は俺の隣りでプレッツェル食ってる
アメリカ人だよ。
マジレス。こいつがはじめてのアメリカ人２ｃｈ登場?
アメリカ人だよ。
マジレス。こいつがはじめてのアメリカ人２ｃｈ登場?
I would like to take this opportunity to thank all of you
island-dwelling monkeys for providing such an excellent
source of humor and entertainment.
island-dwelling monkeys for providing such an excellent
source of humor and entertainment.
113 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 12:46
114 ：106：2001/05/19(土) 12:52
yagi san?
115 ：111：2001/05/19(土) 13:10
Guess so.
But so what??
But so what??
116 ：106：2001/05/19(土) 13:14
111=106=82
だって、
それ、俺の番号だって。
おい
だって、
それ、俺の番号だって。
おい
117 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 13:18
Ive heard having a fight in English is a good way
to think in english logic ..
As long as I see here, its doubtful though..
to think in english logic ..
As long as I see here, its doubtful though..
118 ：1：2001/05/19(土) 13:41
A topic for this week-
A GOOD OR BAD THING IN LERNING ENGLISH
120 ：Rising 6：2001/05/19(土) 16:40
After several days have passed I came here and...
>>117
Isn't it right to express it "having a debate" rather than "having a fight"?
And, I guess you already know that it's a comfortable game with logical thinking for brain and communication.....right??
thanx!!
>>117
Isn't it right to express it "having a debate" rather than "having a fight"?
And, I guess you already know that it's a comfortable game with logical thinking for brain and communication.....right??
thanx!!
121 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 17:00
I think this intercultural language is one of the tools.
People come here want to criticize someone's mistake.
But this thread isn't a thread for making fun of others.
People should be more polite.
Can you take these nasty words to others
when you are talking to them face-to-face?
If you don’t, you shouldn't do this here.
In addition to people who are coming here
as non-native English speakers aren’t good enough
to express their feels in English.
Off cause I’m not good enough too,
though,the worst problem here is that a few people deliberately
provoke unnecessary controversy with their inferiority complex.
Therefore the others don’t lose your mind in order to
Make a constructive conversation.
People come here want to criticize someone's mistake.
But this thread isn't a thread for making fun of others.
People should be more polite.
Can you take these nasty words to others
when you are talking to them face-to-face?
If you don’t, you shouldn't do this here.
In addition to people who are coming here
as non-native English speakers aren’t good enough
to express their feels in English.
Off cause I’m not good enough too,
though,the worst problem here is that a few people deliberately
provoke unnecessary controversy with their inferiority complex.
Therefore the others don’t lose your mind in order to
Make a constructive conversation.
122 ：Rising 6：2001/05/19(土) 17:27
123 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 20:25
私は、この異なる文化間の言語がツールの１つだと思います。
ここで(に)来られた人々は、誰かの間違いを非難したいです。
しかし、このスレッドは、他者をからかうためのスレッドではありません。
人々はより丁寧であるべきです。
これらのいやな語を他者に運んでくださいませんか
あなたが彼(それ)らと話をしているときに面と向かってです?
ときにはあなたdon’t、あなたはここで(に)これをすべきではありません。
ここに来ている人々に加えて
十分によい非ネイティブとしてのイギリスのスピーカーaren’t
英語で彼(それ)らの感触を表すために。
オフは、また十分によい(のでは)ないI’mを引き起こします、
としても、最悪なここでの問題は、故意にその少しの人々です
彼(それ)らのコンプレックスをもつ不必要な論争を刺激して下さい。
それゆえにその他者don’tは、そうすることを順序よく発狂します
建設的な会話をして下さい。
ここで(に)来られた人々は、誰かの間違いを非難したいです。
しかし、このスレッドは、他者をからかうためのスレッドではありません。
人々はより丁寧であるべきです。
これらのいやな語を他者に運んでくださいませんか
あなたが彼(それ)らと話をしているときに面と向かってです?
ときにはあなたdon’t、あなたはここで(に)これをすべきではありません。
ここに来ている人々に加えて
十分によい非ネイティブとしてのイギリスのスピーカーaren’t
英語で彼(それ)らの感触を表すために。
オフは、また十分によい(のでは)ないI’mを引き起こします、
としても、最悪なここでの問題は、故意にその少しの人々です
彼(それ)らのコンプレックスをもつ不必要な論争を刺激して下さい。
それゆえにその他者don’tは、そうすることを順序よく発狂します
建設的な会話をして下さい。
124 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 20:48
Hi,
Im kind of stuck in a depression lately.
I used to use american video dorama like
Ally Macbeal, 90120(?).
I got used to their speaking speed and can follow the plot
but still dont catch the details..
and I hate "Dictation". Thats big trouble here..
I guess its almost impossible to learn Grammar, voca, dict,
reading at the same time on the same level.
Im kind of stuck in a depression lately.
I used to use american video dorama like
Ally Macbeal, 90120(?).
I got used to their speaking speed and can follow the plot
but still dont catch the details..
and I hate "Dictation". Thats big trouble here..
I guess its almost impossible to learn Grammar, voca, dict,
reading at the same time on the same level.
125 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/19(土) 20:50
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127 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/20(日) 03:52
I am not good enought EITHER.
So what's the purpose for this thread?
Chatting in English with non-native speakers?
So what's the purpose for this thread?
Chatting in English with non-native speakers?
128 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/20(日) 15:02
Yeah,
Using expressions youve learned
and make sure you can use them in appropriatre context.
it isnt too bad right? unless you think its nonsence using english
to non-native.
Using expressions youve learned
and make sure you can use them in appropriatre context.
it isnt too bad right? unless you think its nonsence using english
to non-native.
129 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/20(日) 20:07
うん、
youveが学んだ使っている表現
そして、あなたがappropriatreコンテキストで彼(それ)らを使うことができることを確かめて下さい。
それとても悪くて正しいisnt ?あなたがenglishを利用したそのnonsenceを思うことがない限り
非ネイティブに。
youveが学んだ使っている表現
そして、あなたがappropriatreコンテキストで彼(それ)らを使うことができることを確かめて下さい。
それとても悪くて正しいisnt ?あなたがenglishを利用したそのnonsenceを思うことがない限り
非ネイティブに。
130 ：>129：2001/05/20(日) 20:12
Geek..
131 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/20(日) 20:17
ギーク..
132 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/20(日) 20:22
ﾜﾛﾀ
133 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/20(日) 20:52
やっぱ日本語とタタミの上がいちばんしっくりくるナー！
ねえ、小腹空いちゃったー、お茶漬け作ってくんない？
ねえ、小腹空いちゃったー、お茶漬け作ってくんない？
134 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/21(月) 09:18
When I was still a university student, I had lots of friends from
overseas. You know they were kinda “Exchange students” stuff.
Some of their Japanese ability was improving very fast as they spend
most of their time with Japanese speaking friends.
Funny thing was every single one of them trace exactly same patterns
in their linguistic improvements, which is:
In the beginning their Japanese were extreamly polite, just like
straight out of textbooks. Sounds little weird.
Gradually, they start picking up more colloquial phrases and their
Japanese gets better.
And then they start picking up bad words and very bad words, their
language get rougher and sometime even rather offensive, because they
think its cool to be able to use those kind of wards in foreign language.
Maybe they do not even realize how impolite to use such phrases and
words they are using at this point.
Then at the certain point, they start realizing that using rough language
all the time and being offensive is not very smart thing to do even if
it was in foreign language.
Finally they start using more appropriate language.
This thread is right in the second phase I mentioned above, I guess.
Many of us using English, which is rather good, but not good enough
to know that being offensive all the time does not mean you are good
at that language.
Sorry for a long post, I betta go.
overseas. You know they were kinda “Exchange students” stuff.
Some of their Japanese ability was improving very fast as they spend
most of their time with Japanese speaking friends.
Funny thing was every single one of them trace exactly same patterns
in their linguistic improvements, which is:
In the beginning their Japanese were extreamly polite, just like
straight out of textbooks. Sounds little weird.
Gradually, they start picking up more colloquial phrases and their
Japanese gets better.
And then they start picking up bad words and very bad words, their
language get rougher and sometime even rather offensive, because they
think its cool to be able to use those kind of wards in foreign language.
Maybe they do not even realize how impolite to use such phrases and
words they are using at this point.
Then at the certain point, they start realizing that using rough language
all the time and being offensive is not very smart thing to do even if
it was in foreign language.
Finally they start using more appropriate language.
This thread is right in the second phase I mentioned above, I guess.
Many of us using English, which is rather good, but not good enough
to know that being offensive all the time does not mean you are good
at that language.
Sorry for a long post, I betta go.
>>134
And then finally in the last phase, they realise just how stupid and incompetent they are,
and start praying for death.
And then finally in the last phase, they realise just how stupid and incompetent they are,
and start praying for death.
136 ：名無しさん＠１周年 ：2001/05/21(月) 12:05
>134
Me, too, I have some friends from college who are international students.
Their ability to speak Japanese is pretty good. For my part, I somehow think
that they are perfectly functioning in Japanese society. Their Japanese sounds
perfect to the point where I feel like that. What I want to know is how English-
speaking people think about my English... Well, it's not so important.
At least I don't think I have difficulty in communicating with people.
But it's definitely an interesting point, i suppose, don't you think so?
This kind of thread is sure facilitating people to write and communicate in
foreign languages, which is nice. I strongly suggest that we set up a
thread where we discuss in French. What do you think?
Me, too, I have some friends from college who are international students.
Their ability to speak Japanese is pretty good. For my part, I somehow think
that they are perfectly functioning in Japanese society. Their Japanese sounds
perfect to the point where I feel like that. What I want to know is how English-
speaking people think about my English... Well, it's not so important.
At least I don't think I have difficulty in communicating with people.
But it's definitely an interesting point, i suppose, don't you think so?
This kind of thread is sure facilitating people to write and communicate in
foreign languages, which is nice. I strongly suggest that we set up a
thread where we discuss in French. What do you think?
137 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/21(月) 12:56
Why in French??
PRISON RAPE:
The first time I went to jail I was 18 years old. I had gone AWOL from the navy, was living with 3 prostitutes, and befriended an older Marine. The Marine and I decided to pull an armed robbery of a small convenience store. A policeman happened to be in the area, and after a long chase we were arrested and went to jail. We ended up in different tanks in the Sonoma County Jail in California. I was 6'1" and weighed about 180 pounds. I wasn't a small guy and figured I could pretty well take care of myself. I was in for a big surprise.
Their were 20 men in my tank, it was split into two 10 man pods with 5 bunk beds in each pod, a day room was between them. The day room had four large steel tables to eat on, a toilet and shower was in the rear. The first night I was approached by 3 men. Two of them were about my size and the third was about 20 pounds and 6 inches smaller. They asked who I was and what I was in for. I told them and then one of them asked if I had ever been fucked. I said "no and I wasn't planning on it "he said "we're going to fuck you". l was filled with fear like I had never felt before. I swung at him with a left hook and as he blocked it his partner swung and hit me in the face knocking me to the floor. One of them grabbed me by the hair and slammed my face into the concrete knocking me out.
The first time I went to jail I was 18 years old. I had gone AWOL from the navy, was living with 3 prostitutes, and befriended an older Marine. The Marine and I decided to pull an armed robbery of a small convenience store. A policeman happened to be in the area, and after a long chase we were arrested and went to jail. We ended up in different tanks in the Sonoma County Jail in California. I was 6'1" and weighed about 180 pounds. I wasn't a small guy and figured I could pretty well take care of myself. I was in for a big surprise.
Their were 20 men in my tank, it was split into two 10 man pods with 5 bunk beds in each pod, a day room was between them. The day room had four large steel tables to eat on, a toilet and shower was in the rear. The first night I was approached by 3 men. Two of them were about my size and the third was about 20 pounds and 6 inches smaller. They asked who I was and what I was in for. I told them and then one of them asked if I had ever been fucked. I said "no and I wasn't planning on it "he said "we're going to fuck you". l was filled with fear like I had never felt before. I swung at him with a left hook and as he blocked it his partner swung and hit me in the face knocking me to the floor. One of them grabbed me by the hair and slammed my face into the concrete knocking me out.
When I woke I was on my stomach, my pants had been pulled off, my legs were spread wide apart with one guy sitting on each leg and the other guy laying on my back. The guy on top was slapping me awake and said I want you to feel this. He proceeded to drive his cock deep into my butt. I had never felt such pain and tried to get away. They held me in such a way I knew they had done this to someone before. He fucked me for what seemed like forever and then came in me. Then he switched places with another one, and all three raped me. After it was over I was held in a head lock while they debated if they should kill me or not. I was asked if I was going to snitch and I told them "no". They said they would kill me if I said anything to anyone. I really thought I was going to die.
The next day they left me alone, I was numb and didn't know what to do. I was raised not to snitch on people and to handle my own problems and this was reinforced in Navy Boot-camp. As much as l wanted too, I rejected snitching as an option. I was looking at 5 years to life in prison for the armed robbery. If I snitched and then went to prison they could very easily have me killed. I was from another state and knew no one in California. I was so terrified and filled with shame and fear. My options were so limited, I felt paralyzed and helpless. I had no one to talk too, or to help me.
The next day they left me alone, I was numb and didn't know what to do. I was raised not to snitch on people and to handle my own problems and this was reinforced in Navy Boot-camp. As much as l wanted too, I rejected snitching as an option. I was looking at 5 years to life in prison for the armed robbery. If I snitched and then went to prison they could very easily have me killed. I was from another state and knew no one in California. I was so terrified and filled with shame and fear. My options were so limited, I felt paralyzed and helpless. I had no one to talk too, or to help me.
That night the same three came back to my bunk. They said I was their punk now and it would do no good to try and fight because they'd just take me down and hurt me again even worse then before. My head was throbbing from the beating, my right eye was black and swollen shut, and my butt hurt. They told me to take a shower and shave all the hair off my body from the neck down. I was just like a robot and did what they said. Going along was better then getting beat or killed. I didn't reason it out I just did it.
After shaving they told me I was going to give them all head. I didn't want to and resisted. I said "please don't make me do this. I couldn't imagine sucking a mans cock!! I was slapped and my head was forced down to the first guys cock by my hair. I started sucking his cock and he gave me instructions on how to suck it. He grabbed me by the hair and forced his cock down my throat when he came. I thought he was going to gag me to death and I puked on the floor after he let go. The others must have been turned off cause they left me alone that night. I was still in shock the next day and wondered what would happen next I even thought about killing myself.
After shaving they told me I was going to give them all head. I didn't want to and resisted. I said "please don't make me do this. I couldn't imagine sucking a mans cock!! I was slapped and my head was forced down to the first guys cock by my hair. I started sucking his cock and he gave me instructions on how to suck it. He grabbed me by the hair and forced his cock down my throat when he came. I thought he was going to gag me to death and I puked on the floor after he let go. The others must have been turned off cause they left me alone that night. I was still in shock the next day and wondered what would happen next I even thought about killing myself.
The next night the same three came to me again. This time they told me to take off my pants. I was given Vaseline and told to lay on my stomach and put some on my butt. I did what I was told. This time they told me to help by pushing like I was taking a shit as he pushed his cock in my ass. It made it allot easier as he took his time working it in making it less painful. It was still uncomfortable and I felt like I had to take a shit while he was in me. This time he fucked me like he would probably fuck a woman and it wasn't near as bad as the first time. The second guy fucked me about the same way while the third had me give him head at the same time. Their was nothing pleasurable about it yet I was perplexed about getting a hard on. I was afraid about it because I thought they would beat me if they saw it. I also wondered if I could be homosexual. That really bothered me!
I now know that when a man's Prostate Gland is stimulated he will get an involuntary hard on. It was very confusing at the time. I was able to keep them from noticing because they always had me lay on my stomach for sex. Things started to tapper off after this and they weren't so demanding. I would have sex with one of them at a time, and at different times, however others in the pod started to become interested.
I now know that when a man's Prostate Gland is stimulated he will get an involuntary hard on. It was very confusing at the time. I was able to keep them from noticing because they always had me lay on my stomach for sex. Things started to tapper off after this and they weren't so demanding. I would have sex with one of them at a time, and at different times, however others in the pod started to become interested.
I would be woken up at different times of the night and asked to perform sex. I would just do it rather then risk being beaten. The men began to treat me gently and after a week or so they started letting me play cards with them and gave me candy bars and stuff. Before that I was ostracized, no one talked to me nor would they eat with me.
After a time some of them would even protect me against the three that originally raped me. They would abuse me by calling me a punk and asked things like, "do you like getting fucked in the ass bitch" and "what would your girlfriends think of you now". They even got into my things and wrote to the girls I had been living with and told them I was a punk. Sometimes they would pull my hair or slap me while I gave them head. The other guys started to get on them about it. I appreciated them sticking up for me and started to like them. These other guys treated me real well during sex. Some of them preferred getting head and some liked fucking better.
Even though I wasn't saying no anymore they all knew they were raping me. I knew it was established that I was a sex toy and if I ever flat refused I'd be beaten badly. I thought of the first three as violent rapists and the others as opportunists and in reality nice rapists. They wouldn't come out and take sex violently but would take advantage of a scared young person who they knew couldn't say no.
After a time some of them would even protect me against the three that originally raped me. They would abuse me by calling me a punk and asked things like, "do you like getting fucked in the ass bitch" and "what would your girlfriends think of you now". They even got into my things and wrote to the girls I had been living with and told them I was a punk. Sometimes they would pull my hair or slap me while I gave them head. The other guys started to get on them about it. I appreciated them sticking up for me and started to like them. These other guys treated me real well during sex. Some of them preferred getting head and some liked fucking better.
Even though I wasn't saying no anymore they all knew they were raping me. I knew it was established that I was a sex toy and if I ever flat refused I'd be beaten badly. I thought of the first three as violent rapists and the others as opportunists and in reality nice rapists. They wouldn't come out and take sex violently but would take advantage of a scared young person who they knew couldn't say no.
143 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/21(月) 15:03
私もそうです、私は、インターナショナルの学生であるカレッジからの何人かの友がいます。
彼(それ)らの日本人(語)を話す能力は、とってもよいです。私としては、私はなんとかして思います
彼(それ)らが日本の社会で完全に機能している。彼(それ)らの日本のサウンド
どこで(に)私があのように感じるかという点に完成して下さい。私が知っていたいものがどうするか(方法)です英語-
話す人々は、私の英語について考えます...まあ、それはそれほどには重要ではありません。
少なくとも、私は、人々と連絡するのに苦労すると思いません。
しかし、それは、明らかに面白いポイント、iが想像するということです、あなたはそう思いませんか?
この種のスレッドは、書いてそして(それで)伝えるのが人々を容易にするのが確かです
我々がフランス語で議論する場所に糸を通して下さい。あなたは何を思いますか?
彼(それ)らの日本人(語)を話す能力は、とってもよいです。私としては、私はなんとかして思います
彼(それ)らが日本の社会で完全に機能している。彼(それ)らの日本のサウンド
どこで(に)私があのように感じるかという点に完成して下さい。私が知っていたいものがどうするか(方法)です英語-
話す人々は、私の英語について考えます...まあ、それはそれほどには重要ではありません。
少なくとも、私は、人々と連絡するのに苦労すると思いません。
しかし、それは、明らかに面白いポイント、iが想像するということです、あなたはそう思いませんか?
この種のスレッドは、書いてそして(それで)伝えるのが人々を容易にするのが確かです
我々がフランス語で議論する場所に糸を通して下さい。あなたは何を思いますか?
At this point I was trapped in this role. I reasoned that I had better Just make the best of it and get past this the best I could. After awhile the sex wasn't all un-pleasurable, however I became rudely aware of what frustration many, many women go through. As I would lay on my stomach getting fucked some of the guys treated me just like a women. As they got hotter and hotter they'd start grinding nicely and kissing on my neck and back and rub on my sides, legs, butt, and stomach. This felt so good and I'd Just give in to it and enjoy it. I would start fucking them back so I could grind my cock into the bed and get my own pleasure. It felt really good, but right when I would start getting real hot they would usually cum and put all their weight on me before I could orgasm. Then after we got up they wouldn't talk to me or even look at me. It really made me feel like shit.
145 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/21(月) 15:05
その点で、私は、この役割で罠にかけられました。私は、ちょうどそれを最大限に利用してすることができたこの最高を過ぎて得るほうがよいことを推理しました。しばらく、性が全くun -楽しくなかった後に、しかし、私は、無作法にどのような欲求不満を通して多く、多くの女性が行くかを知っているようになりました。私が私の性交される腹部を誇張するだろうから、何人かの人は、ちょうど女性のように私を扱いました。だんだん熱くなったので、彼(それ)らは、心地よく粉を挽いて私の首、および後ろでキスし始めて、私の側、足、太いほうの端、および腹部で擦するでしょう。これはとてもよい感じがしました、そして、私は、ちょうどそれに降参して、それを楽しむでしょう。私は、後ろへ彼(それ)らと性交し始めるでしょう、したがって、私は、私のベッドへの雄鶏を挽いて粉にして、私自身の楽しみを得ることができました。それは、本当によい、しかしいつ私がすることができた前に、私が通常彼(それ)らがするだろう熱く現実になることを開始して彼(それ)らのすべての重量を私の上に置くだろうかは正しいオルガスムを感じました。それから、我々が起きた後に、彼(それ)らは、私と話をして、あるいは私をさらに見ないでしょう。それは、本当に、私に糞のような感触を作りました。
146 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/21(月) 15:11
＞私は、私のベッドへの雄鶏を挽いて粉にして、私自身の楽しみを得ることができました。
そりゃ良かった（藁
そりゃ良かった（藁
147 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/21(月) 15:25
r u tryin' to tell us that's the best way to learn how girls feel during a sex?
y'know that could be a hellova lesson.
y'know that could be a hellova lesson.
148 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/21(月) 15:26
but I am not ganna take that lesson, though
never ever. eww.
never ever. eww.
149 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/21(月) 15:38
r u tryin’我々にそれを言うことは、どのように少女が性の間に感じるかを知るのに最もよい方法です?
hellovaレッスンかもしれないy'know。
しかし、ただし、私は、gannaがそのレッスンを取るということではありません
決して今までにとはいえないが。eww。
hellovaレッスンかもしれないy'know。
しかし、ただし、私は、gannaがそのレッスンを取るということではありません
決して今までにとはいえないが。eww。
>>135
Are you a poet?
Short but words piled sounds comfortably at one of ear,
and that's coming cruelly into another and the heart.
Somebody can imagine the smile on your mouth.
They'll see you as if they got a time slip car.
You've spit spit and spit words out out and out.
...and, they realised intuitively how
despair had come to you at last.
======================================
By the way, are you praying for death still now?
Or, do you think yourself is a special existence?
Anyway, it's not so difficult to guess some of them here learn something from you without pity.
Talent sometimes be merely a strong poison that leads person into abandonment only.
Now, my coffee break is over.
I get to start my work again.
thanx!!
Are you a poet?
Short but words piled sounds comfortably at one of ear,
and that's coming cruelly into another and the heart.
Somebody can imagine the smile on your mouth.
They'll see you as if they got a time slip car.
You've spit spit and spit words out out and out.
...and, they realised intuitively how
despair had come to you at last.
======================================
By the way, are you praying for death still now?
Or, do you think yourself is a special existence?
Anyway, it's not so difficult to guess some of them here learn something from you without pity.
Talent sometimes be merely a strong poison that leads person into abandonment only.
Now, my coffee break is over.
I get to start my work again.
thanx!!
151 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/21(月) 16:40
>> 145
is that the only way for you to participate this thread?
try somethin' different, will you?
is that the only way for you to participate this thread?
try somethin' different, will you?
152 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/21(月) 16:42
participate in this thread, imean..
i rather wanna die..
i rather wanna die..
153 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/21(月) 21:14
そのあなたのための唯一の道は参加するためにですかこのスレッド?
試みsomethin’異なります、あなたがしますか?
このスレッド、imean ..に参加して下さい
iがむしろ死にたいです..
試みsomethin’異なります、あなたがしますか?
このスレッド、imean ..に参加して下さい
iがむしろ死にたいです..
154 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/21(月) 21:59
>150 You must be a poet too..
Some people said language is a tool of communication.
I agree with them. Tools get rusty if you don't use them.
Since I don't have any opportunity to use them, only when I go abroad,
I am really envious of people who use English everyday at work or
at college, wherever. That must reinforce your incentive
for improvement.
So I have a question to ask, for people who dont use english
but make it progress constantly. What is your motivation??
39s
Some people said language is a tool of communication.
I agree with them. Tools get rusty if you don't use them.
Since I don't have any opportunity to use them, only when I go abroad,
I am really envious of people who use English everyday at work or
at college, wherever. That must reinforce your incentive
for improvement.
So I have a question to ask, for people who dont use english
but make it progress constantly. What is your motivation??
39s
155 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/22(火) 08:49
does "39s" means thanx?
cool.
i bet those non-japanese speaking people wouldnt even have a clue what
it says though.
cool.
i bet those non-japanese speaking people wouldnt even have a clue what
it says though.
156 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/22(火) 08:53
ある人々は、言語がコミュニケーションのツールだと言いました。
I agree with them. Tools get rusty if you don't use them.
私は彼(それ)らと同意します。もしあなたが彼(それ)らを使わなければ、ツールは錆びているようになります。
Since I don't have any opportunity to use them, only when I go abroad,
私が私が外国へ行くという時にだけいくらかの(どんな)彼(それ)らを使う機会を持たないので、
I am really envious of people who use English everyday at work or
私が本当に羨みます、仕事で毎日の英語を使う人々または
at college, wherever. That must reinforce your incentive
カレッジで、ところでは、どこでも。それはあなたの奨励金を補強しなくてはいけません
for improvement.
改善のために。
So I have a question to ask, for people who dont use english
したがって、私は、質問事項があります、人々のためですenglishの誰をdontが使うか
but make it progress constantly. What is your motivation??
しかし、それをたえず前進させて下さい。あなたの誘発は何ですか??
I agree with them. Tools get rusty if you don't use them.
私は彼(それ)らと同意します。もしあなたが彼(それ)らを使わなければ、ツールは錆びているようになります。
Since I don't have any opportunity to use them, only when I go abroad,
私が私が外国へ行くという時にだけいくらかの(どんな)彼(それ)らを使う機会を持たないので、
I am really envious of people who use English everyday at work or
私が本当に羨みます、仕事で毎日の英語を使う人々または
at college, wherever. That must reinforce your incentive
カレッジで、ところでは、どこでも。それはあなたの奨励金を補強しなくてはいけません
for improvement.
改善のために。
So I have a question to ask, for people who dont use english
したがって、私は、質問事項があります、人々のためですenglishの誰をdontが使うか
but make it progress constantly. What is your motivation??
しかし、それをたえず前進させて下さい。あなたの誘発は何ですか??
157 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/22(火) 09:36
What is your motivation?? あなたの誘発はなんですか？
誘発はなんですか？
誘発はなんですか？
158 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/22(火) 11:20
are u taking Irish?
159 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/22(火) 11:21
are u talking Irish?
160 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/22(火) 11:26
y r u asking if im talking irish?
161 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/22(火) 11:32
im asking u spudpicker or not,
4get about it if u don understand...
4get about it if u don understand...
Yarggghh, all of you can suck on Pirate Pete's Mystery Meat.
163 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/22(火) 11:54
Yarggghh、あなたのすべては、海賊ピートのミステリー肉で乳を飲むことができます.
164 ：海賊ピートのミステリー肉で乳を飲むことができます：2001/05/22(火) 11:55
またひとつ、名訳を産んでしまった…
165 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/22(火) 12:05
いや、今回は元ネタとなる英文がもうすでにアレなので、以前の名訳ほどスゴくないと思う。
つーか何考えてアレ書いたんだ、俺？
つーか何考えてアレ書いたんだ、俺？
166 ：海賊ピートのミステリー肉で乳を飲むことができます：2001/05/22(火) 12:07
アレってなによ？アレって？（笑
167 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/22(火) 12:09
「海賊ピートの謎肉」。元ネタは確かシンプソンズ。
168 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/23(水) 08:58
hi all!
i almost got late for the office this morning.
phew, that was really close. i hate rain.
i almost got late for the office this morning.
phew, that was really close. i hate rain.
169 ：1：2001/05/23(水) 15:58
>168
I did :(
I hate rain too, but I prefer it's cooler.
I did :(
I hate rain too, but I prefer it's cooler.
170 ：169：2001/05/23(水) 15:59
Oops.
I'm not the "1".
Well, I am the one, but not the "1".
Hehehe :)
I'm not the "1".
Well, I am the one, but not the "1".
Hehehe :)
171 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/23(水) 20:51
ハイすべて!
iは、ほとんど、今朝オフィスに遅れるようになりました。
ちぇっ、i憎しみが雨が降るところでは。それは本当に近かったです。
>168
私はしました:(
私はまた雨を憎みます、しかし、私はそれがよりクールなことのほうがよいです。
Oops。
私は、「１」ではありません。
まあ、私は、もの(それ)、(しかし「１」ではない)です。
Hehehe :)
iは、ほとんど、今朝オフィスに遅れるようになりました。
ちぇっ、i憎しみが雨が降るところでは。それは本当に近かったです。
>168
私はしました:(
私はまた雨を憎みます、しかし、私はそれがよりクールなことのほうがよいです。
Oops。
私は、「１」ではありません。
まあ、私は、もの(それ)、(しかし「１」ではない)です。
Hehehe :)
172 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/05/26(土) 02:52
Hey guys! I found the coolest web page.
It's only for people who understand English, though.
http://members.tripod.co.jp/terabaito/index.html
It's only for people who understand English, though.
http://members.tripod.co.jp/terabaito/index.html
174 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/06/11(月) 15:48
あげてみたりする。
175 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/06/11(月) 15:52
how do you translate gansha in english?
facial shot?
facial shot?
176 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/06/11(月) 15:56
Hey! that's a good q!
i wanna know it too!
i wanna know it too!
facial (cum) shot/≒bukkake
178 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/06/13(水) 13:07
k, tell me the difference then
179 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/06/13(水) 14:19
you are DQN's!! aren't you?
180 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/06/13(水) 14:35
dunno what u talkin' about..
Don't bring this shit-thread up, fucking idiots...!!
182 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/06/14(木) 10:08
hey! here's another bumping.
sorry, i just like keeping this shit thread up.
sorry, i just like keeping this shit thread up.
183 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/06/24(日) 05:41
That depends on what you mean by "this language”.
Is that supposed to be Japanese or English?
Is that supposed to be Japanese or English?
184 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/06/24(日) 18:27
Hi !
I want to try TOEIC.
please tell me when it held on ?
I want to try TOEIC.
please tell me when it held on ?
185 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/06/24(日) 18:31
オンリーイングリッシュジャナイノ？
a few days ago,I think this thread had comparatively better responses
than now.I'm sorry for the fact that this "English Only" thread had
died of vacant communication between the low-level participant's
scribbling,which is so endemic in 2CH.
than now.I'm sorry for the fact that this "English Only" thread had
died of vacant communication between the low-level participant's
scribbling,which is so endemic in 2CH.
187 ：名無しさん＠１周年：2001/06/26(火) 01:26
thread up!
188 ：名無しさん＠１周年：
Ms. Imada is the ugliest woman I've ever seen.
She looks like 今田浩司.
Plus, she is the leftist.
I put a stick into her vagina.
Thank you.
She looks like 今田浩司.
Plus, she is the leftist.
I put a stick into her vagina.
Thank you.