Hey!!! you NEETs, nerds, YouTube-link spammers, pedophiles, neo-Nazis, Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers, Part-Time-Preachers, Diplomats' spoiled sons, losers who can't remember Kanji characters, Big-boobs fans, Weeaboos from all over the world, learners of Japanese who are too lazy to update their Japanese blogs very often, and cunning linguists. And let's celebrate the comeback of the Internet-addicted housewife.
>>3 Procrastination is universal. Everybody here do procrastinate.
I can concentrate more when the deadline is nearing and end up waking up all night studying. Then I regret I should have made a plan and should have studied following the plan but I never do that. Because if there are lots of time, I am not in the mood for studying. and goofing around.
I also surely like to procrastinate in masturbation. Because I don't ejaculate without trying through all onapet- for example Kim Yu-na, Sekimori Hinowa, and Oshita Yoko...etc. It is wasteful for me to ejaculate at once.
There are greater issues right now than legalization of marijuana. If Obama starts focusing a lot of attention on that issue while he is president right now then he is nothing more than an appeaser.
What do you think of the girls on the website where you can chat with them, text chat, voice chat, video chat for your preferance? It's not free of charge to chat but you can peep at them by clicking on their faces. Just clicking on each of their face and peeping doesn't cost any money. It's nice in that it feels like you are peeping at them in thier own rooms. You feel like as if you were in their room.
I have visted equivelants on overseas servers but the girls there look too professional and in almost cases they strip tease on your request. The girls on the Japanese website look very amaturish and looks like girls next door. Some even states that they never took of their clothes even if you request. The site isn't categorized in adult category so you can't complain. (If you are lucky, some may get naked if you request though.)
If I were a girl, I'd never sign up for that kind of chat site and make money like that. Shame on them. They think they can make easy money just by chatting! As a man myself, why on earth do I have to pay money to them just by chatting? Isn't it rediculous? Of course the website continues because there are men who pay money just to chat with them. Can't believe it.
I heard good looking girls make a lot of money in that kind of chatting webiste while ugly girls have no men who want to chat them and just wasting time waiting for someone to talk with. I guess I'd feel like an animal in the zoo if I were them with lots of men just peeping at them with no intention of chatting. They must feel like they are rejected.
I used to procrastinate a lot, but now I think I am now much more disciplined. Although I've adjusted my goals so that I only work on and study things which I am very interested in because I found most of my procrastination was a result of boredom with whatever I was doing. It would be physically painful for me to continue working on something I was just bored to tears with.
I've been trying to play final fantasy 7 on PC, but I have trouble getting it to work.. What should I do to solve the problem(s) I have now?
By the way, do you have any recommendations on RPGs? I've completed the legend of heros 6 lately, and I found it really interesting. Actually it took me more than 150 hours to complete FC, SC, TC all told. And I also like final fantasy series (up to 9 exclusive 8, though). Recommendation?
>>10 I used to procrastinate a lot, but now I think [ I am now much more disciplined ]. [ Although I've adjusted my goals [ so that I only work on and study things [ which I am very interested in ] [ because I found [ most of my procrastination was a result of boredom with [ whatever I was doing ] ]. It would be physically painful [ for me to continue [ working on something [ I was just bored to tears with ] ].
>>10 It's good [ of you to have spiritually grown [ to find [ what you're really interested in [ which is the meaning of your life [ with which to do good to the society ] ] ].
I would also surely like to procrastinate for Brad Pitt and Tsumabuki. [ Because I wouldn't ejaculate without [ trying through all those males ] ] I can't help procrastinating the time I cum. I haven't cummed for more than a week though.
[ Acting only within [ limited ] conditions of computer games [ which several humans created ] ] is only a prison activities. Get ou of your door. Walk in nature [ which never fully content you with its infinity ].
>>3459395 They don't. When they wanted to get rid of sparky they were going to have to write emails to whoever runs the place. USA ips were blocked though. For some reason Earthlink in NY wasn't, but as soon as I got back to college that was it. I got bored of it right after December anyway.
>>3459445 "...THEY COME IN HERE, AND POST ALL BULLSHIT TEXT. IT IS OVERLOADING OUR SERVERS." I mean, really. There wasn't a good reason to do so, since it was the /english/ channel, and most of the English speakers were there to help (Not me, I was just dicking around) but that's just what happened.
From now on, you should enrich your mind “through” comunicating with a lot of people from various backgrounds.
Do you think the way of using “through” is correct? I use the word frequently while writing English sentenses, but every time I do, I feel a bit uneasy to think the usage might be wrong.
>>24 Not all American is blocked. It seems like it depends on ISP you use. Comecast and a few others are blocked. Not only America, but people from Sweden with .se at the end of thier IP address are blocked.
I don't think it's traditional thing as far as I know. Korean people use major American ISP servers as proxy to cyber attack to 2ch, so 2ch has taken a measure to prevent it. It's been like that for the past few years or so.
I watched Hero's on TV 2days ago. Mashioka and other Japanese was playing with Japannese in the play. Their Japanese is completely strange, I mean GAIJIN English. It sounds like stupid as a Japanese.
I feel annoying everytime I see those silly messages and brackets by those BIG2 perverts. Actually, they can be ignored if you want by installing one of the 2ch browsers, but I also feel a little ridiculous to bother to install it only to avoid their hentai posts.
C'mon, we're all hentai at heart, you're no exception. So stop trying to be so moralistic. What you have to do is just pretend all is well or let your heart speak the truth.
So, it sounds like they're attempting to metamorphose today's anime or otaku culture into something artsy there. Does it really make sense to foreigners? Or an utter farce?
By definition, anime can be art, but I don't think it makes any sense to try and make art out of it. A convention like that just sounds like a business con game to me.
>>36 Penis Balls, May I humbly ask you to insert your rather large penis into my honorable ass hole? (rose fragrance fart bursting ass hole) uuuuunnnnn uuuuuunnnnnnn ooooooohh yeeeaaaaaahhh
>7 Really? I can't masturbate more than once every two days. After masturbating, I lose all sexual feelings for 24 hours. I can't procrastinate more than 30 minutes like that.
>>12 Well, that's hard to say. But simply, when I try to start the game (clicking on the new game button), the screen goes black. I don't know why. I installed the software and thought that's all I had to do to run it, though.
>>13 Yeah, because I don't have any game consoles such as PS2 and Wii. Plus I'm poor at action games, inclusive Action RPGs. In fact, I tried playing Ys the oath in felgana, but the first Boss defeated me (so couldn't go any further than that. lol). Anyway, compared to consumer games, it's really tough to find a good and interesting one. The other day, I stumbled onto one of the Square Enix's websites designed to advertise Last Remnants on PC, but it seemed still up in the air when the game was supposed to be released. Hmm, if falcom completed developing the legend of heros 7 now, I would get a copy of it soon, though..
I forgot whether this is a joke or a real story but this may show one aspect of Japan's English education. A Japanese teacher were making his students repeat English sentences after him.
Teacher: All right, repeat after me. "My name is Ken." Students: "My name is Ken." Teacher: "I'm 14 years old." Students: "I'm 14 years old." -----the repeating practice goes on-------- Teacher: "I played tennis after school." Students: "I played tennis after school." Students are so shy that they just kept mumbling each sentence after him. The teacher got irritated by that and said, SPEAK OUT LOUD, OK? Teacher: "I'm very tired." Students: "I'm very tired." The teacher said to his student, "Repeat with more energy." Then the teacher read the sentense at the top of his lungs. The lesson went on... How on earth a tired person say the line with energy.
Books with a CD of his speech sell a lot in Japan. They say that the total number of the kind of books would be impossible unless not only English learners but people who don't study English had bought it. One news show aired about how people use the CD. One barber plays the CD while doing her job.
She doesn't study English but she said in an intervew that the speech makes her full of energy.
Obama memorized all of his speech? The speech is about 20 minute long. It seems impossible to memorize it.
dats so silly. I havnt bought Obama CD yet and wont in the future. btw, Obama is a poser. I assure you all, he cant bridge the financial crisis in the states. YES, YOU CAN. but what?
I guess 70% of American can't spell Tennessean right while only 10% of Tennessean can't spell it right. Tennesseans are locals so the vast majority of them can spell it right.
The same goes for Mississipi. The vast majority of locals of Mississipi states can spell it right, but the vast majority of American can't spell Mississipi right. I know I can't spell it right as you can see.
I guess even native English speakers have trouble of remembering the spelling states names. Why double n and s in Tennessean? I have no clues.
You mean Mario Brothers? I have to say it's good, but it's not my taste. I like RPGs coz I love to enjoy stories deeply, but you can't when playing action games, can you?
There's no problem for me to be a moron. I just love RPGs. They are sometimes really touching and some other times quite exciting, and gives me a sense of satisfaction when I complete. Just like that. You are missing one piece for life if you have never experienced that feeling. Really.
>>73 I don't mean to learn from video games, though. But what kind of stuff do you want to learn from what kind of stuff? You are making too much of video games.
>>58 Actually, many of us can spell "Mississippi" correctly. There was a jump rope game I played as a kid where you had to spell the name of that state while jumping. Many of our place names here (state, city, county, river etc.) come from Native American words. Tennessee, Mississippi, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Kansas, Iowa and Ohio are a few examples.
>>59 In the U.S., filibusters only happen in the Senate. Originally, a filibuster was a very long speech on any topic by a Senator that prevented a bill before the Senate from being acted upon. The speech could be given by one Senator, or a series of Senators. The record for longest filibuster by one person is held by Sen. Strom Thurmond, who spoke continuously for 24 hours and 18 minutes. Now, a Senator only has to indicate he's filibustering and doesn't have to actually make the speech. The majority party can end a filibuster by voting for "cloture" (end of debate), but it needs 3/5 of the Senate voting for it to pass. That is why a party that holds 60 seats in the Senate is said to have a "filibuster-proof majority", since it has enough Senators to vote for cloture.
>>63 Cliche is a common word here. It's pronounced "cli-shay" where the "cli" is the short i sound like clip
>>86 No idea. Are you a Club Penguin type, or a World of Warcraft type? I equate RPGs with MMORPGs but maybe that is wrong. The original pen and paper RPG was "Dungeons and Dragons" I think.
>>88 oh,‘che’is pronunced like ‘shay’? It doesn't seem to obey the generally accepted rule of English pronunciation. Maybe French influence, as someone said.
Well, do you hear the phrase‘often-stated phrase’ in your everyday life? Both of them mean the same thing when translated into Japanese.
>>89 A filibuster could (in theory) last indefinitely, as long as there aren't enough votes for cloture and there are enough Senators to keep it up. (The Senate Majority Leader can force the minority to do the traditional spoken filibuster.) In practice, the longest recent filibuster was 75 hours, on the Civil Rights bill of 1964. That filibuster was broken when the Senate Majority leader refused to refer any other business to the Senate, and the filibustering minority couldn't continue it. That forced a vote on the bill. Most of the time, the minority party threatens a filibuster, and if there aren't enough votes for cloture, then the bill is shelved without being put to a vote.
>>90 We never use the phrase "often-stated phrase". It's easier to just say "cliche". We have also turned it into an adjective "cliched", a synonym of "hackneyed" (overused, commonplace). And we like our French words--cliche, bureau, menu, ala carte, croissant, etc.
>>89 Thanks, Rice Man. So what is the validity of filibuster except giving the minority a chance to whine? Does filibuster work in any constructive manner for the minority to push through legislation?
>>92 Really? That phrase is introduced in my writing textbook proudly, so I'm a little disappointed(; Then it seems better to use the word cliche instead of that at an exam or something like this. By the way, some of the words, menu and carte, are often used in Japan too.
>>93 Too bad that English doesn't allow me to write in a more feminine manner. In that respect, Japanese is much more useful. Yes, I'm a woman.
You have it exactly right--the filibuster gives the minority party some power to block bills. No one wants to get rid of it, because eventually both parties are in the minority and they want that power. The filibuster is great for blocking legislation, but it doesn't allow anyone to introduce new legislation. The minority party is pretty much out of luck there, unless the majority party likes the bill (in which case they'll introduce their own version, so they can take the credit). Our system of government with all of the checks and balances sometimes leads to nothing getting accomplished.
>>94 I checked that term on Google; you actually do see "often stated phrase" in (more formal) writing. But in speech and casual writing, you would hear or see cliche. If your exam involves an essay, I would stay with "often-stated phrase"; it sounds more refined. It isn't exactly taught to us, but there are formal and informal ways to express yourself in English, and we adjust our vocabulary accordingly.
>>97 !! Thank God this is an anonymous forum so I don't have to worry about (not) living up to your image of me!
I was informed that they were neither teens nor from Nashiville.
But I was now surprised to know for the first time that they were from the U.K. lol I can see how influential American culture was to U.K already at the time. Rock and roll was still American thing. They affected American. I don't know the clear history of rock and roll. Was that kind of music created by Black people only?
>>70 Mario Brothers is more fun when it's played by two simultaneously. Both collaboration play and competition play are fun. Sudden treachery is more fun like attacking mario or luige from under the bar when the game is supposed to be a collaboration play. My counterpart became angry and the game became more eiciting.
I'm a Japanese. And I've studied English for two months to listen a radio program. That program is AFN (American Forces Network). When I were listening it, I frequently listened a idiom of "make sure". And I can't catch meaning of sentences including this idiom correctly. I don't know but it is difficult for me and I had one question. That is whether useing "make sure" frequently is something fashion or it has been used frequently for a long time. Could someone teach me it please?
>>102 Not exactly. First Mario brothers happens to be my favorite. The Setting of every phase was the same. The screen was static too. Fist mario was much more simple. Today's action games like Metal Slug seem to be hard and complicated. The screen scrolls horizontally and various enemies appear with various traps and attacks.
>>103 So you like simple and classic games. And I have never heard of Metal Slug. Based on what you say, the game may be annoying. (I don't like action games.lol)
I guess action games and shooting games are prone to make players nervous and angry. These games require skills and memories. You have to try again and again and sometimes become hopeless being stranded. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps6s5Fqnmvs The most notoriously difficult shoot'em all game.
There are some good first person shooters. Call of Duty 4 is one which is extremely popular in the U.S. The sniper mission in the single player is especially popular. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGsinhgUhTw poor quality video, but you can generally tell what is going on.
Lol no. Some black people singing at the bottom of a hill... fascinating.
If you want to know some history of Tennessee, it is called the "Volunteer State" because historically TN has always been one of the greatest contributers of volunteers to the military during past major wars (War of 1812, Civil War, WW1, WW2).
I recall hearing a story that in the town of Franklin, which is near a town where I live, during WW2, men were brawling each other in the streets in order to be some of the first to volunteer for the military for the war.
>>118 "Hick" is definitely an insult. It's used to describe unsophisticated, narrow-minded people.
The word is derived from "Hick", a shortened form of "Richard".
...I don't know how they got "Hick" from "Richard". Another modern-day shortened form of "Richard" is "Dick". Democrats called President Richard Milhous Nixon "Tricky Dick", for example.
Wow being blocked is annoying. So how has everyone been? This past Saturday I went to a Japanese restaurant called "Sunshine Cafe". Their shtick is that it's homestyle Japanese cooking, so no sushi like every other Japanese restaurant in Chicago. The food was amazing. My friends and I all started with 餃子 and then I had 親子丼. Oh and 味噌汁 came with our meals as well.
Actually I have pretty Japanese week ahead of me as my family is going to a nice sushi place for my dad's birthday. Then on Tuesday of next week I'm going to hopefully be seeing the Kodo taiko drummers.
I was also sorta in a play this past Saturday: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Too_Much_Light_Makes_the_Baby_Go_Blind The actors do 30 plays in 60 minutes and often get the audience members involved. The story is kinda complicated but basically they were doing a light show/dance and randomly picked me, dressed me up in a mask and I joined them in dancing (happily getting laughter from the audience). That took about 2 minutes so I still have 13 minutes of fame left!
>>119 "Hick" from "Richard" never occured to me. Nicknames in English are sometimes beyond my imagination. It seems that people named Richard would be embarrassed from time to time. Or maybe they don't care. Thank you for your answer.
>>117 As far as I know, Arrested Development was disbanded years ago. I bought a copy of their CD albums (including Tennessee) several years ago and I happened to listen to it yesterday. lol They got one or two (or three) glammy (grammy?) award prize(s) for "everyday people".
Now to the topic, I didn't know the history. It's interesting. So the volunteer spirit still might run in your state.
>>120 Hahaha, 餃子 and 親子丼? That's a bit strange cordination for a meal. Believe me, I have never had them at a meal. I don't know why, though. But I like both of the menues, yeah.
By the way, can I ask you guys about an English sound connection that I've been holding for long? First off, please have a listen to this song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfcgTDrhEXM&feature=related At about 1:07, she songs, "no one ever wins". But it sounds like "no one never wins" to me. Do you think English speakers would never make a mistake like myself?
I have only eaten sushi once in my life. When I was a lot younger, I went to some fancy restaurant and ate some. I recall it tasting like... nothing, really.
>>121 Surely, it is very difficult to associate "Hick" from "Ruchard". But, it is easy for me to associate a enormous serpent from swelling muscle of a woman's thigh. Then I cannot be without masturbating as intensely as brutes.
>>120 It is the most popular in Japan to order a set of menu included ラーメン, 餃子, and 炒飯(or rice). When you order Japanese food, you should not only order but order with thinking about the combination in the balance of their taste. Otherwise, I'm goint to crush your testicles in my hand !
>>131 Sorry, I have no fucking idea what you're trying to get across but perhaps that's what you wanted. Therefore, I am not going to pry further into it.
I searched for this chain of words on the web: (Subject) had my foot stepped on(.) But contrary to my expection, as few as about one-hundred cases were gained.
This result made me wonder how English speakers express such situation as someone stepped on their foot verbally. (btw‘my foot was stepped on by someone’seemed to be gramatically wrong sentense)
>>102 Oh, three times... That's very difficult for me. One time is my limit. But I think posting here in English is effective in studying English too. Because we Japanese have no chance to write in English at all in daily life.
>>116 I knew that "confirm" is same meaning as "make sure". But I have hardly heard "confirm", and I have heard "make sure" very very frequently. Isn't it formal word? By the way, I think "make sure" has many meanings. I think that it's similar to "check" and "I will do it certainly that ... " and etc...
By the way, A-Rod admitted using steroids. In Japan, it was reported, because Baseball is very popular. Many Japanese people are looking forward to WBC(World Baseball Classic). But now popularity of Baseball comes to fall down. I'm afraid this situation may accelerate.
>That took about 2 minutes so I still have 13 minutes of fame left! I don't understand what this means. I need to read the wikipedia article to understand this? Anyway, I can imagine it's troublesome you can only manage to post successfully one out of ten tries because of 2ch's blocking IPs from overseas.
The leading actors of "High school musical" came to Japan the other day for their sales promotion campaign for their DVD, or movie or something like that. I checked the male leading actor's name and searched him in Japanese Wikipedia and it says that he's going to enroll USC, which if I remember correctly, is your first choice. Did you know that?
I know USC requires excellent academic record for students to enroll in. I doubt he is good at studying because he is busy with his acting carrer. Maybe his recommendation letters from teachers and extra carricular activities and his carrer as a pro in acting is evaluated highly by the uni's addmission office? Any observation? I don't blame you if you don't answer me to think your access to 2ch is restricted.
"The home of FedEx has an incredibly high rate of violent crimes, with only Detroit faring worse. The 1,218 violent crimes per 100,000 residents is more than twice the rate in the New York City metro area."
>>141 It's a reference to the expression "15 minutes of fame". The expression itself comes from a statement made by Andy Warhol in 1968: "In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes." Warhol's view of the media was that it could enable any person to become famous--if only for a short while.
Nowadays, a period of short-lived fame is often referred to as a person's "15 minutes of fame".
>your access to 2ch is restricted. Come to think of it, they've started to restrict access from America since when 2ch was sold to someone or some organization in Singapore, right? I wonder if American people still can read 2ch even when they are blocked.
>>142 >The 1,218 violent crimes per 100,000 residents Wait a minute.
Should I read one thousand and two hundred eighteen or (seeing as you mistyped a dot for a comma) one point two one eight? That'll make a big defference.
you seem to love 金玉 do you know why men's reproductive organs are called golden ball? I can't believe they deserve to be called in such a exquisite way
>>165 i think its bcuz 金玉 products sperms which make a woman get pregnant n have children they make money when they become grownups... parents dont have to worry about their life after retirement nowadays they still have to worry about their old age but i think thats where the word came from!!! agreed? yes you agreed!!!!
>>164 Though 金玉 is a word in Japan that means testicles, 金玉 is a word in China that means "important thing as gold and treasure" . I think that 金玉 became a meaning of "testicles" through the process of " important thing" → " important thing of man" → "testicles".
today, all day, there were wind storms here. knocked out the power all over the place. took out stoplights so driving to class was nuts. trees down everywhere and even mailboxes blown over. twas nuts. worst part was that the power-outages took out my 2 month uptime haha
Hermes of the goddess that appears in Greek myths is pronounced "he,ru,me,su"in Japan. But on the other hand, Hermes of the brand is pronounced "e,ru,me,su". Why it is different pronunciation though it is the same word?
>>182 maybe "he,ru,me,su" is from English. "e,ru,me,su" is from French language. I like Lalah Sune who rides moble armor "e,ru,me,su". Do you know GUNDAM? It' a anime.
>>201 There are many towns that are named "OTEMACHI" in Japan. Actual Japanese pronunciation is "oote" This meaning is the front side of gate of castle.
>>203 What kind of taste a UKON NN CHIKARA has ? Though I have great interest in it, I can't dare to drink it out of fear. That must bad taste or mazui, yes !?
>>120 Your story reminds me of David Copperfield tour in Japan. He picked up an audience randomly and showed trick to him or her, even flew with her. I was not in the front side but I got nervous and prayed I would not be chosen.
Americans seem to be more positive and social than Japanese. And Americans are more groovy. Japanese are generally shy and person who was picked up by Copperfield seemed to be embarrased and made a shy smile. Nobody raised hands and appealed to Copperfield.
I wonder whether there exist americans who freeze and becomes speechless. Even nerds and geek can happily dance? I can Dance? never! I feel ashamed to death.
Carrie in the movie is a fictional caracter. But there must be real Carrie in the U.S....
By the way, it was said that a person whom Copperfield picked up was "claque" and same person showed up in different shows. I thought it must have been true.
Is "claque" appropriate word? I wanted to say さくら which means a person who is prepared in advance to play a role, whom we assume amateur.
>>197 hehehe. I know. Gundam became shit after lala appeared. Illusional battle scene and superficial philosophical conversations (in reality just silly conversations) between amuro and lala were ludicrous.
>>207 I didn't pay attention to your name. I just assumed your name meant literally 焼き豚(fried pork).
I know there are controversy between soccer fan and baseball fan. In my opinion both are boring. European soccer leagues are more suited to kill time though.
>>208 There are lots of people here who don't like to be the center of attention. I myself am one of them. It's easy to miss us; we don't stand out like the extroverts do. As for the "real Carrie", you don't mean a telekinetic arsonist, do you? I doubt there is anyone like that here. Or if you mean someone who is bullied then lashes out, there are plenty of people like that here--remember the Columbine killers? Supposedly they were outcasts at their high school.
>>209 I wasn't familiar with the term "claque", but the word I would use for that case is "plant"--someone who is "planted" in the audience to look like a volunteer but is really a part of the act.
In all of my classes, nobody ever pipes up to answer the teacher's questions, even if they are obvious. This may be because some people are half asleep and not paying attention, but a lot of it is due to people being shy. I often feel so embarrassed over the classes collective shyness, that I just answer nearly all the questions by myself. Americans may be more outgoing, but like hell are we more enthusiastic. Americans are some of the most indifferent and apathetic people on the planet.
>>213 There are lots of people [ who don't like to be the center of attention ]. I myself is not any one of them. It's not easy [ to miss me ]; we do do stand out as an extroverts. I am an arsonist [ who light fire of love into you aaaaass ]. I believe [ you are the one [ who is doomed to get toxin from me ]. Or [ if you mean someone who is bullied then lashes out ], there are plenty of people like that ove the earth Supposedly we are love angels on this planet.
>>214 Your story contradicts what teachers here say to their students. Teachers moan about their shyness and try to make them more active by letting them know how American students are energetic.
But this characteristic seems to be true of you. I can share your feeling. When obvious questions are being ignored completely, I can't resist my temptation to ansewer.
I dropped in at a convenience store this morning where I found a health drink. Since I was suffering from muscle ache, I decided to buy it, though it costed as much as 260 yen. I now think it's contributing to my health to some degree.
Yeah, today's really warm as if spring had just come. But I guess it's just an exception today. The weather will go back to winter mode again from tomorrow.
Then again, it's reported that a spring sign is observed, which is yellow sands flied from the dessert in China. Strong wind vaccume sands on the dessert up in the sky and they are carried by wind to Japan. You can see sky is hazed because of the sand and the sky looks yellowish.
The sands land on the surface of a car parked outside and it looks dirty.
I strongly feel global warming is proceeding. A decade ago, it was much colder than it's today. I was astonished when I found a mosquito in my room last winter.
>>219 Which part of your body do you feel a pain in? It may possibly be a muscle of your penis? The reason for your muscul pain is not because you spent a lot of time browsing obsene web pages but because you have masturbated too much?
Happy Valentines Day! Please help yourself to a chocolate...
I spent today helping my 7 year old daughter clean out and organize her room...and we're still not done! She's a pack rat, just like my husband and her room is full of junk (or treasures, depending on your POV). Speaking of my husband, he and my son are in Maine with the Boy Scouts tonight, sleeping in shelters made from snow that they built themselves. We'll celebrate with chocolate fondue when they return, Sunday or Monday. How did you spend your Valentines Day?
Valentine's day is nothing more than an oridnary day to me. Two boxes of chocolate I got was from family member and ralative. There's nothing romantic to it.
Christmas Eve (, which is considered a romantic day for Japanese couples) and Valentine's days) are the most annoying day to me, who don't have girlfriend.
Yeah, maybe it's the matter of whether you see a cup as half full or half empty. I'm a nagative person so I see my cup as half empty. I'd like to have a toast with my cup full of love.
I didn't do something which would make me happy on Valentine's Day. High schoold boys would be looking forward to the day, expecting some attractive girls come near to and give chocolates to them.(things don't go as they expected in most cases though.)
I spent the day just like a normal day except the fact that I was given chocolate by my mother. I ate it up on receiving it from her^^;
We don't have the Valentine Day/White Day custom here, so anyone can give a Valentines Day gift to anybody. Most elementary school students here celebrate Valentines Day with a class party, and everyone brings in valentines for everyone in the whole class. (Usually these are cheap little cards with cartoon characters, and many people put a small piece of candy in it). But when you get to be an adult, then it turns into this big romantic deal, which kind of takes the fun out of it for many people. Yesterday, I read a most amazing letter written by a man to "Dear Abby" (advice columnist) about how was sick of Valentines Day being only for couples, and that we should revive the custom of giving valentines to everyone, just like children do. I must say I was impressed. Here is the link, if you want to read it: ttp://www.uexpress.com/dearabby/?uc_full_date=20090214
>>238 I didn't know kids give a small Valentine gifts to every classmate in US. I don't agree with your idea 100%. It might be a good idea to give Valentine gifts and show affection to loved ones even you are grown up. But in reality, you don't feel so much affection to all of your coworkers. You like some, you don't like some. So it's odd to give every coworkers a present. Kids should be educated for them to get along well with each and every classmate so the custom of giving a small candy to every classmate is good from educational standpoint, but that idea can't be applied to grown-ups.
In Japan, as you may know, many female workers give chocolates to their coworkers and bosses even if they aren't loved ones for them. That type of chocolate is called "Giri choco," meaning something like obligation chocolate. Some companies decided to ban the custom because it is a burden to female workers and giving giri choco is just by courtesy without any affection. I think this is a good move. I buy the idea of giving chocolate or whatever on Valentines Day to your loved ones such as your bf/gf, relatives, familiy members, people whom you really feel affection to, but giving to coworkers just for obligation is odd.
We have custom of sending New Year's greeting cards to coworkers, sending summer and year-end gift to boss in workplace. Some companies told their workers to stop these customs anymore because these customes are burdens to workers.
>>238 I agree with your idea. By distributing chocolates to everybody without discrimination, every one feels happy, and doesn't have to suffer from unneccessary worries or despair.
I knew first that not only women but men can give presents on Valentine's Day. If I gave chocolates to someone here, people would consider me to be pretty odd person.
>>240 He's singing in a reggae style. It sounds vaguely Jamaican, although the singer is from Toronto. It's too fast for me to catch what he's saying.
>>239 That reminded me of one the dialogues in my Japanese textbook. The clueless American (Johnson-san) gets very excited when a Japanese co-worker gives him some chocolate on Valentine's Day until one of his Japanese male coworkers tells him about giri-choco. You're right; that would be a big pain to be obligated to give everyone chocolate. I guess I would just give relatives & friends cards.
>>242 Men are lucky in Japan, they only have to give stuff to the women they get something from. Unless they are really popular and get chocolate from lots of women. That probably only happens in fiction though.
>>243 The text book sounds good introducing Japanese modern customs.
>Men are lucky in Japan, they only have to give stuff to the women they get something from.
Today, girls tell a boy they're secretly in love with that she loves him face to face or by writing a letter or something on any day but long time ago, when that's not so common, Valentine's day was a once in a year opportunity for her to muster up courage to show her love to a boy they love by giving a chocolate. Even today, I think Valentine day serves as a day for a shy girl to muster up her courage to ask a boy to go out with her. Giving a serious chocolate with a letter to him can start romance with him.
There are very popular high school students who get more than two chocolates which aren't giri-choco but serious ones.
If he's not interested in any girls who give him chocolate, and decides he'll go out with none of them, he doesn't gives anything in return on "White Day" to any of them. If he decides to go out with one of them, he starts seeing go with her from the day and gives something in return to her on White Day.
>>244 Really? I think a person who was given chocolates by girls has to give something to every one of them in return as a way of expressing his gratitude. I don't have enough experiences to talk about this topic though.lol
>>245 Six. I got a chocolate box from the relative, which contained six piece of small ones. So I got six ones. Even the smartest person can't deny this fact.
>>244 We have a non-existent holiday here called "Sadie Hawkins Day" where a woman can propose to a man. It is supposed to be on February 29th. This pseudo-holiday comes from an old comic strip called "Lil Abner".
>>246 I was given only one serious chocolate by a girl when I was a high school student. She was one of my classmates but I hadn't talked much with her. She wasn't a cute girl (actually, she was kind of ugly. lol) but I gave her something (I forgot what it was) to her on White Day because I thought ignoring her would made her feel bad.
I told my friends about me giving her something in return. They all said, "why did you do that? You didn't have to." I think I was a polite boy. I couldn't run over her feeling to me.
She gave me a hand made chocolate with a letter. The letter said she wants to go out with me. I handed her a letter with something. I wrote I've never imagined going out with anybody. (That was true becasue I was shy in those days.) So, I can't go out with you but thank you very much for your gift. I wrote 弓道 がんばって。 It was a few months later that I found out she belonged to 剣道部, not 弓道部。This explains how much I didn't know about her. Uniforms of 弓道 and 剣道 looks similar.
What she gave me was 8 pieces of chocolate in a box and on top of each piece, one alphabet was written with edible addtives or something. The eight alphabets were v, y, I, o, e, l, o, u. I didn't understand what that meant first, but didn't take much time to understand what they meant.
I'm not boasting. Mind you, she was an ugly girl. But I have to admit that even a present from an ugly girl like her made me feel proud of myself. hehe
>>248 Never heard of the comic. I guess American women aren't shy so they don't need a pseudo-holiday like that. (Stereo type) But the concept of pseudo-holiday is funny.
>>250 I think you made a right decision, and your friends were wrong. We have to respect women, especially who are not so cute, for their great efforts and courage!
If you are a school boy, you may be on pins and needles on the day in the hopes that a girl to your liking would give you chocolate even if she hasn't communicate with you so much. Moreover, maybe you wish that a shy and submissive girl who was secretly in love with you would abruptly appear in front of you from nowhere. But I warn you that, Japanese girls are, in general, extremely clever, as far as the dating game. She would at least try to ask you various questions beforehand, if she wishes to give you her serious chocolate. Actually, your Valentine's Day has already ended before it really starts. It's predetermined harmony base on your past behavior. But you can't notice this fact when you are a kid. Eather that, or you just don't want to realize it. Anyway, stop trying to be so nice only around the day.
>>259 I really couldn't realize what you meant because your post(256) are lack of information. To begin with, what is your previous post, and who are you? You should write more.
>It's too fast for me to catch what he's saying. Thank goodness. I thought I was the only one who was not able to catch it. This led to popping up another question in mind. I wonder if English speakers never fail to catch any dialect English, I mean like American people and new zealanders have deffinetely no trouble understanding each other just because of accents (apart from specific words). Just to make my point clear, concerning the japanese language, I don't think I can alway catch what dialect Japanese speakers say, especially elderly people with strong accents. And I wonder something like this also applies to English speakers.
>>263 I was watching some programme on the BBC about different religions, and there was a section about evangelism. The priest they were interviewing was from Tennessee, but it was so hard to understand him. They even gave it English subtitles.
Tomorrow, I'm meeting up with my penfriend from just outside of Tokyo. She's really helped me improve (and learn) my Japanese over the past three years. But we've never actually met and she happens to be visiting the country. This will be really embarrassing, because even after that long, my Japanese is terrible.
Hi everyone I am a long time lurker and first time poster. I am a big 2ch fan and perhaps a bit of a nerd. I am also American. ( ・ω・) And that is my introduction. Hello everyone.
( ・ω・) Speaking of Valentine's Day, I spent Valentine's Day weekend with my girlfriend! We had a great few days together. I feel like most of the time on Valentine's Day people in America give their partner a small gift and card and then go out to eat. That seems to be customary.
hey! He is our finance minister, Shouich Nakagawa, who appeared to be drunken during G7 meeting in Rome. He denied having drunk before the meeting, and blamed cold medicines for his bad mental condition. What do you guys think was the major cause of that ?
>>264 Good to know you're alive and kicking, erecting to boot! Why don't you mesmerize her with your perfect 2ch jargon. Joking aside, don't feel ashamed of making mistakes with Japanese. Even if you make any mistakes, your effort of trying to speak in Japanese give her good impression. Making mistakes isn't something you should be afraid of. They can be an icebreaker.
I guess you two won't feel like you meet for the first time after years of corresponding. Are you nervous?
>>268 I can speak a little. I have visited Japan a few times and have taken lessons but I've gotten bad about it in the past year. I cannot read very much due to kanji. >>275 ( ・ω・) Don't worry, I'm still a pervert too. I have a girlfriend under strange predicaments I think. I am a reclusive person sort of.
>>264 I see. All kidding aside, I've always wondered if British people and American people (English speaking ones) seemed to have no trouble understanding. To me, both of them have quite different accents. And since I'm used to American accents (probably standard ones), when I watch Harry Potter, it always come home to me that I can't seem to make out what they were saying.
>>266 Why have you been lurking so far? You're under obligation to post at least 3 times a day. Haha
>>276 Kanji might be the most difficult and troublesome to learners of the Japanese language, except for Chinese speakers.
>>277 No, I don't. Can you give me the link to the news article?
>>279 I'm very tired recently too. I have a pain on my penis and my testicles are sore. It is because of the masturbation poisoning that is raging now. I thnk I'll masturbate like a mad beast and stay in bed till I feel better.
>>280 Thanks. I thought the UFO might be something like flat and round flying stuff, I mean, the thing that appears in E.T? Seems I misunderstood this time. It's speculated that it's debris of the American satellite that clashed against the russian one, right?
>>282 >Hell's Angels I've never heard of it. Why did you bring it up so sudden? I can't follow the thread.
>>283 I intentionally called it UFO to imply ET's crafts!
Well, that was not the debris of the satellite, which was created by the collision a few days ago. According to experts, that was a meteor. It is quite natural to assume that fireball was a debris, considering short interval after the collision., though.
>>284 Meteor? Did it actually hit the ground, by the way? Or did it just burn out before it clashed? From what I saw on the video you put the link to, I think the meteor seemed both about to collide and about to disappear from the heat. I don't know.
>>285 I don't know either. But I guess it copletely burn out before attacked buildings or forests in Texas, because I heard no reports about catastrophe there. I certainly want to know detailed information about it.
>>286 Ok. I don't think this could happen, but what if the meteor thing was fake? It just occured to me that someone wanted to surprise people with it.
>>278 ( ・ω・) Understood sir, three posts a day it is! >>280 w I don't know if you guys look at the comments but youtube comments are always good for a laugh. The English is usually very bad but it's still funny. Take this one for example: "u people r fucking dumb space doesnt end we arnt the only ones out there it was a ufo y do u think the government covers up everything so the world doesnt freak out god.......who cares they dont do n e thign to us ne ways" He is so angry and adamant about ufos existing and the government conspiring even though it is ridiculous.
As a note: UFO doesn't have to mean an alien like ET. It actually means "Unidentified Flying Object" so it can be anything. It is usually used in reference to aliens though.
>>288 Surely there're numerous fake movies especially as to UFOs, but in this case that is very unlikely because I gained the information from abc news!
>>290 Yeah, reading youtube comments is interesting. I often pay attention to how viewers feel and think. As to the comments, does he say that seriously or kind of joke? I don't have a skill to read between line.--
Finance Minister Shoichi Nakagawa, [ who has denied [ being drunk ] ], offered his resignation late Tuesday after earlier in the day [ saying [ he would stay on [ until after parliament approves the budget for the fiscal year, probably in late April ] ] ].
>>291 I like that phrase. I'd like to keep an appropriate distance from an argument on the internet, too. This board especially let us go on many nonproductive debates and its anonymity became a lisence to lie though.
I was watching an American movie on NicoVideo the other day. "Airplane!" In Japan, it was called "航空機!". It had Japanese subtitles, but even I can tell that a lot of the dialogue wasn't translated exactly. I can't blame the translators, though. A lot of the jokes were untranslatable. English puns. That sort of thing.
Still, when I watch fansubbed Japanese television, the jokes I like the most are those kinds of jokes-- The ones that don't translate into English, and the translator has to stick a note at the top explaining it. For some reason, I really like those jokes, even more than the ones that work in either Japanese or English.
>>276 > I have a girlfriend under strange predicaments
I wonder what you mean by this? And If you're really reclusive, then it's impossible to get a girlfriend except that you go out with her only on the Internet if you say it's going out. But you said you ate out with your gf on Valentine's day.... No clues.
Lol how low is the DJIA and Nasdaq going to go before it bottoms out? Every speculator has been saying for months now that the market has bottomed out and we should see recovery soon, but it just keeps sinking further. It's been a few months since the DJIA has been this low.
Obama tried to raise it by putting out good news everyday when he first got into office, but that just creates artificial raises which will inevitably sink back down.
I hear that Japan's market-weighted indexes are in bad shape too.
>>301 Read your post, checked Google Finance, loled at today's another free fall.
What's going on in the US economy? Japan's economy is pretty much dead already and it can't be helped because we don't have natural resources at all. Some say IT and other technology nonsense would save us. But in reality it's never going to happen. Japan actually sucks at them. But why US? Have Americans banks really been dicking around, hiding their weakness, for decades?
People fearing recession -> which turns into them putting stop and stop loss orders -> which causes the prices to lower -> which causes the index to lower. The good thing is that some stocks become undervalued due to this. I just think it is funny how the indexes have been plummeting a lot lately solely on insignificant bad news or speculation.
>>303 Is that some vicious circle? Then maybe stocks will come full circle. Or maybe it's time I started to learn a third language so I can get by when the US fails. Hmm, do you think Chinese is any good?
>>293 It's serious. Most people on youtube are just regular internet users not the kind that are advanced enough to be a troll. >>299 ( ・ω・) I'm not a REAL recluse as in I still go out for school and such. I just like to spend time in doors a lot and am sort of a nerd so it's just strange that I have a girlfriend I think. She is a real life girlfriend not an internet one!
"Is it a good thing ?" ┌──┴──┐ YES NO ↓ ↓ Korea "Can you invented blame an it inferior ?" ┌──┴──┐ ↓ ↓ YES NO ↓ ↓ Problem "Did it Solved happen before 1945 ?" ┌──┴──┐ YES NO ↓ ↓ It's Japan's It's America's fault ! fault !
>>304 Come to the "East Asia" board of 2ch. You can learn a lot about finance and get a new insight into the monetary system(s). Some of the posters there have absolutely broad knowlege on that. Surprisingly, some specialist in finance has been analysing data. I guess you'll be shocked to see China is walking on the thin ice in terms of money. Come quick and see the truth.
>>311 Are there many economists in Japan? I remember hearing that in Japanese college they don't offer specific majors but rather broader majors so you would be a Mathematics major rather than Economist. Is this true?
The Japanese drunk financial minister was forced from his post due to that press conference on the other day, and share prices on the Tokyo Stock Exchange took a beating. I don't know why he must be so much as to resign. Indeed, he gave a bad account of himself, but in fact, he was very competent financial expert. Investors were honest, contrary to the media.
>>312 I'm not so sure those self-procraimed "Economists" are trustworthy, especially those on TV (I'm talking about the Japan's case).
In Japan, people can be certified to become financial expert if they have knowledge and pass certain national exams. And several people of such sort happened to post in 2ch. Compared to Japanese Massmedia, they only believe in objective data analysis and lead to conclusion. That's why they are far trustworthy. Among them, two guys have some finance books published, and one of them started practicing finance. That was sort of surprising. Now is the time we can kick corrupt media.
>>313 Agreed. The biggest problem is, they don't report what he's done. They only loved to find fault with him. Crap.
Of course, what terrifies me the most is that this current crisis is being used by the international Left as an excuse to EXPAND government spending, even though this crisis was a direct result of government having too strong a hand in private businesses and forcing banks to make loans at untenable rates.
>>245 i learned for the first time that jim carrey was canadian. But his humor sense must be no differenct from american. i don't like him. he is so self-conscious and overacting. his facial expression and gestures annoy me.
he reminds me of eminem. i can't explain well but something is in common.
>>318 I think the same thing. However, he isn't so bad in his more dramatic roles. Even though he was still a little goofy, I liked him in The Truman Show.
>>278 We don't usually have a problem understanding most American accents and dialects, but occasionally something unusual will come along. Just like I imagine most Americans would have a problem understanding people from Glasgow or Newcastle (because we find it hard enough).
>>275 Was very nervous at first, but it went pretty well. Learned many things. My Japanese is much worse than I thought it was (but now have incentive to practice more). I'm a "cat's tongue". And Japanese people who have never left the country (her cousin) seem to find hugging VERY awkward.
Goddamn. Hey all, long time no see. I'm way behind in reading all the posts, so sorry if someone replied to my last post and I didn't respond. I had a long weekend so I went up to New York City for the past few days to look at New York University and Columbia University. I was hoping I'd be able to post here using my cousin's internet but his ISP is blocked as well.
>>323 Good afternoon, Mr. America jinn. It's surprising that the creator of 4chan is such a young boy. Please let him post here if you could make friend with him(・o・)
I just talked to my american friend and she said they dont say "proper"which means 適切な in america and british are more likely to say it. I didnt know that. I had felt right with proper for 適切な. but she said they say "right" instead of "proper" in america. like "Do a right thing." not "Do a proper thing." What else can i say besides "right" in american english?
I saw somewhere in a book that, "appropriate" isn't a good word for meaning something "proper". There wan't an explanation about why it's not appropriate. I thought the reason why it's not appropriate is because it's a bigger word than proper. Could anyone give me a good explanation why it's not proper?
>>182 Actually I had read that web side before you read. I had the same impressions as you had. Eventhough he is not japanese as you pointed out but japanese American, he is still non-white asiastic race. >it is also a kind of a white supremacist group. yes. In wikipedia it is explained that hell's angels membership is limited to white people only. (oh, now the description of the requirement being white is dropped from wikidepia. But it must be a tacit agreement in their circle) I wonder why and how Mr.Fuki succeeded in entering Hell's Angels. We can see typical american white chicks in Fuki's site. I guess that in general white thugs are prone to be offended by a asian surrounded by white chicks.
There is a biker-gang group which has international chapters which include non-white nation. The name is banditto? Correctly Bandidos. I saw a group of non-white bikers on their web site.
Motorcycle clubs, especially like Hell's Angels seem to be gang or mafia in reality, bike lovers on the surface. In japan biker gang(暴走族) is regarded as one gate to yakuza or inferior to yakuza. I guess most people will proceed to professions other than yakuza though. I wonder whether biker gangs in America can be attacked by professional gangs or both usually keep off each other.
I'm a japanese. But biker gang style really matchs with white people. Japanese biker clubs and people of those ones looks like joke. Some are too short for riding harley! Short stature and short legs. I want to say in Japanese "バイクに乗せられてる" or "バイクに負けてる". Literally "he is ridden by a bike" or "bike overwhelms him".
>>320 Yeah, we have the expression "cat's tongue," meaning a person who has cat's tongue can't drink hot drink whose temperature actually is not so high and is suitable for drinking.
>>325 If I remember correctly, his first choice is USC. His second choice include Ivy league on the east coast. He's done with all processes regarding USC application and waiting for the result. Whatever university he'll go he's going to major in Scientrogy or Scatology. That's what I read here.
Without biased ideas, she is a good looking girl with gorgeous body. That's why some people like her. Some Japanese are atrracted by her becasue she speaks Japanese.
What Japanese people get about her facts and figures are from what's written and spoken in Japanese by her. Some Japanese people may know her what's called e-begging, some not.
Nick writes about her in his blog and quite a lot of people gather there, comment about her. I don't know what Emily's personality is like, which from what I read in his blog doesn't seem to be commendable.
I would say some people in Nick's blog is jealous of her being able to live in Japan. Quite a lot of people commented abuot her figure saying she has love handle or what not, but those comments are rediculous. She has gorgeous body, actually. Her body is on the high end of bikini models. I would say her figure is almost perfect.
Do I like her? Not really but I don't understand why Nick's blog gather such readers.
>>337 Believe or not, Emily seems to still have a small fanbase predominantly comprised of her avid Japanese worshippers, despite her current questionable words and deeds. I don't really care too much about e-celebs or those dramas evolving around them, but I can reasonably assume that few Japanese people even know about her.
I'm filled with anxiety. Now the economic downturn caused by global financial crisis is becoming worse rapidly. Unemployment of the United States is skyrocketing, and what's more, it will certainly influence Japanese labor market. It is not difficult to predict that a good many people are likely to lose their job. My primary concern is the augmentation of the suicide rate. People who are suffering from paying off housing loan must be distressed about making ends meet. I hope the recession will recover soon!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3283/2657284362_506f7c7d98.jpg?v=0 I don't know why such a facial expression is called lip-curling. When I first heard lip-curling, I imaged protruding or pouting lips. In this case lips are curling above and below looking from the side.
>>346 Either is acceptable usage. The "no" is used as a direct negation of the previous statement, and what follows is what the speaker wishes to declare. Putting "yes" is a way to doubly affirm the declaration, while the negation is contextually implied (as that usage can also be used to show agreement).
>>339 What did she actually say and do ? I once heard somewhere in 2ch that her personality was very bad. I'm not partuculary concerned about her, but I'm a bit interested in what she did and disappointed her fans.(・o・)
>>350 Long story short, she made a video clip that claims she would go to a university but doesn't have enough money, and she requested donations from her viewers for that purpose. Technically, there's nothing wrong or illegal about it, but she's never mentioned school or exams since then and shut down the comment function for the video. Instead, she keeps reporting about the band she formed in Japan and her days of band practice. Again, I don't really care what she does, but I could imagine her fans who pitched some change towards her tuition wonder where the money went. I'm fully aware this is a very stale way of enjoying gossip, so don't dis me on this one. I'm just replying.
>>351 She is a fraud literally if the donation was used for another irrelevant thing. Peaple who gave her money should indict her. By doing it, they might be able to meet her actually at a cout...
I remembered the fact that I'm going to university by the help of a scholarship, and I found there would be no neccessity of offering donations to go to university. Just beause she is a bit cute, it doesn't mean telling a lie can be justified.
In retrospect, I've never heard someone demanded money just to go to university... She made use of her beauty to exploit fan's property! What a sly girl!
Asking for donation for the benefit of personal goal is more common in US but we Japanese aren't familiar with it. If a person who's asking for donation is suffering from a serious desease and has no money to be hospitalized or to go through surgery or anything, then Japanese people feel sorry about her and some people might donate some money.
But in case of Emily, I just thought why do I have to give some money for her tuition. Lots of Japanese people apply for scholarship or work hard part-time after getting into university to pay university tuition.
One organization supports students who lost their parent(s) because of traffic accidents and can't afford to go to uni. I don't mind donating some money for them.
Emily on the other hand, doesn't seem like being thrifty. She goes to Starbucks often, buys whatevery she wants rainging from video games, CDs to nice clothes. All she has to do now is settle for coffee sold in vending machine instead of expenisive Starbucks, sell CDs and video games. She has to earn some money on her own if she's serious about going to university. Asking for donation without making any effort? Give me a break.
Emily is a youtuber who speaks decent Japanese. She lives in Japan now. While she went to Japanese language school while working as a model in Japan. She says model but actually some people call it a soft core porn.
I'd like to talk with a very pretty, beautiful, and gentle teen girl on the Internet. I wanna be taught how to talk in English if possible. Dose anyone know how to find such a girl ?
I'm sure there's no such gorgeous women like 米人 on the east coast of America. West coast? Maybe some of the women on the west coast and in the Great Plain are as hot as her.
I bet she's one of the hottest women in their forties in America. Do you know why the Statue of Liberty doesn't face Boston? That's because the Statue of Liberty gets jeralous of 米人's beauty.
>>367 Well, I only wish the predator wasn't there so it would haven't happened. Granted that you could have saved her, but it doesn't change the fact that she had a terrible experience. I think an attempt alone can be terrifying enough to devastate her happy life.
According to the Korean newspaper, many Korean girls are flying to America after Bush agreed on Korean entering America with no visa and in order to enter the country without fail, they ask (Korean) doctors to issue a certificate of being phisically challenged and sitting in a wheelchair to make sure American people will be nice to them. They say that American people let them claim baggage without pain (no waiting) and so they take advantage of American conscience. After they pull through, they stand up and start walking out of the airport. The newspaper says that the problem is, such girls go to America because they are going to work as prostitute in LA.
____________________________________________________________ Wow, hang in there, America..
I have a lot of experience in live fighting. I'm not saying I'd win for sure, but I think I have a much better chance than someone with little to no experience. Being a lot stronger than me doesn't matter if you have never actually thrown a punch at someone before (or taken one, for that matter). Win or lose, I would still have tried to take the criminal down on principle.
Boasting about having lots of live fighting experiences is based on DQN mentality and what's not praised for.
Having lots of live fighting experiences means either you aren't good enough to solve problems without relying on phisical fights or you are a kind of person who tend to put yourself in danger situations where you have to rely on physical fights.
In a nutshell, this kind of person have a low crisis management skill.
I guess this is what we call a cultural difference, but these posts >>367>>378 sound extremely stupid to me and, I think, to most of Japanese. Apparently he'd sound differently in his culture. It seems there's a lot more than grammar and vocabulary when it comes to learning language.
you guys' english is so low level..... are you all japanese middle school student? you should laern english from I very good english. my english are perfect american real like amreican persan's english. I studyed very hard english because, I know you envy me. Do your best english.
By the way, I think trolling native speakers on the internet are one of efficient ways to learn language. Some responds to my stupid posts in "bad" language and some try to educate me by using polite words. It's better if you sock puppet to support your stupid posts in polite, educated language. Retards keep yelling at me, and patronizing fags remain polite so you can learn two different registers of your target language. On top of that, those trolled speak sincerely and voluminously, which is difficult in real life.
I do this everywhere and it sure improved my English. What do you think?
I don't think you know what it is like to live in a place where crime actually exists. For example, say a man starts running towards you with a knife and plans on mugging you? Are you going to talk him out of it when he is already sprinting? That happened to me a few years ago.
This may not be the case in Japan, but in a lot of places in America, there is a chance you may be assaulted at any moment. In fact, as I was saying earlier, a woman was assaulted just down the street this morning.
If you acknowledge that you may be attacked and decide to not fight no matter what as a matter of being a pacifist, then disregard my previous comment.
>>392 Scary... A country like that is preaching around the world that their political system called democracy is superior so every country should follow suit... I'm really lucky to have been born in Japan.
Hm. Americans are assaulted by peers when walking in their own country and by muslims when traveling overseas. Being American seems to be rough and tough. Far be it from me to say what they should do, but it might be worth considering for US to follow example of Canada.
It is very scary to fight against men in western countries because people there are generally big and physically strong. Well, I personaly admire such a brave person as don't mind being injured in order to help the weak. I would intervine and stop them when I see here men abusing girls or animals.
It is like that all over the world, man. Actually, us Americans have it really easy compared to many other places in the world. I hear there have been quite a few racial genocides in Africa within the past decade or so.
I have a friend who used to live in the country of Haiti. One day he was in the car driving to his grandparent's home or something when suddenly the car in front of his was pulled over by two men with assault rifles. They forced the lady out of the car, one of them smashed her teeth in with his weapon, took her car, and left her on the street. It really is a dangerous world outside of our nice, rich little bubbles.
>>392 DQN refers to immature school thug/gangsta type of people, or just immature grownups who still have that kind of mentality after graduating from school. That sort of people... They like to talk about their real fight experience and whatnot and how they can beat someone up. It has nothing to do with pacifism. Not that I think you are one of those people though, I just exxplained what DQN is.
It is like that all over the world, man. Actually, you Americans have it really easy compared to many other places in the world. I know there have been quite a few racial genocides in Africa within the past decade or so. You have a friend who used to live in the country of Haiti. One day he was in the car driving to his grandparent's home or something when suddenly the car in front of his was pulled over by two men with assault rifles. They forced the lady out of the car, one of them smashed her teeth in with his weapon, took her car, and left her on the street. It really is a dangerous world outside of your nice, rich little bubbles.
Haha I can post using my neighbor's wifi connection and my iPod touch! Typing is pretty easy so this is ten times easier then getting a damn proxy to work.
Regarding violence in America I can only talk about my personal experiences. Around my school some kids have been mugged but they're leaving late after sports practices. My school once had a problem where someone kept pretending to be a student and stole a lot of stuff. The worst was when during class the principle announced there was an escaped convict in the area.
I think USC is my top choice then NYU, Columbia and Cornell University. I got 2 letters yesterday, one saying I got accepted to RIT(decent school) and a letter from WPI(I was excepted a few weeks ago) saying I got 60grand in merit scholarship over 4 years. That's a really good offer but WPI is far and away my last choice...
>>407 I've already known that you're a smart boy before I read 407.
It can be said that ou are deserved to being offered merit scholarship, because there are not so many people who can write and express their own opinion as well as you, considering you're still in your teens.
I'm pround of there being such a competent English speaker like you here!
>>380 No offense to Tennessean but yeah you're right he sounds stupid (and I'm American). It's pretty easy to see what he's trying to say about himself. >>407 ( ・ω・) That's cool! I applied to Cornell as well. However, I don't think I will end up going there. I always hear bad things about how competitive it is. I wonder if that's true.
Even though アメリカ人 also has a fetish toward panties, that Japanese povert is overwhelming against him. He has as many as thousand panties. (lady's only)
>>418 You can buy her DVD to support her. Don't know if that would help her save up for school, but pretty sure it's gonna be one of the rarest DVDs since it'll probably be discontinued soon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJXZgv1e4Tg
>>417 Some people seem to talk about donations for her university tuition out of frustration. I think Emily is feeling scared and on the brink of bankruptcy. It's time for Emily lovers to save her!
When I saw her movie of Pikachu bread, I was somehow attracted by her cute face and charisma. But it is not until I pushed the link on above posts that I realized she has lost her charm.
...ah, I just realized this strange thing. When I hear the word "slut" in English, it's a very very strong word and sounds extremely rude. I'd never say it in real life unless she's cheating on me or something. But I don't think the Japanese equivalents such as だらしない女 and あばずれ are as offensive. Certainly I wouldn't say those words either in a normal situation, but they could be used as a joke if she's your friend.
The same goes for some other offensive words. Calling someone a "racist" sounds extremely offensive, but 人種差別主義者 sounds less offensive to me for some reason.
Come to think of it, I just found there are more striking examples. Who cares if a person is 無神論者 or 不可知論者? I suspect some Japanese adults don't know what those words mean, but it seems words "atheist" and "agnostic" could be sometimes provocative, which is surprising if said in Japanese.
You call me a sexist? I take it as an offense. You call me a 男女差..., um, I don't even know what the Japanese equivalent of "sexist"! Is 男女差別主義者 a word?? I don't know. Actually I looked in my dictionary and found 性差別主義者 is the proper term. I don't think I heard this word more than twice in real life.
Could you let me know your opinion? I appreciate comments from both Japanese and people of different cultures.
...ah, I just realized this strange thing. When I hear the word "slut" in English, it's a very very strong word and sounds extremely rude. I'd never say it in real life unless she's cheating on me or something. But I don't think the Japanese equivalents such as だらしない女 and あばずれ are as offensive. Certainly I wouldn't say those words either in a normal situation, but they could be used as a joke if she's your friend.
The same goes for some other offensive words. Calling someone a "racist" sounds extremely offensive, but 人種差別主義者 sounds less offensive to me for some reason.
Come to think of it, I just found there are more striking examples. Who cares if a person is 無神論者 or 不可知論者? I suspect some Japanese adults don't know what those words mean, but it seems words "atheist" and "agnostic" could be sometimes provocative, which is surprising if said in Japanese.
You call me a sexist? I take it as an offense. You call me a 男女差..., um, I don't even know what the Japanese equivalent of "sexist"! Is 男女差別主義者 a word?? I don't know. Actually I looked in my dictionary and found 性差別主義者 is the proper term. I don't think I heard this word more than twice in real life.
Could you let me know your opinion? I appreciate comments from both Japanese and people of different cultures.
>>426 When I hear the word ‘人種差別主義者’, I have the impression that he is an extreme racist, who believes his race is superior to any other race. He wouldn't distort his idea no mater what happened to him or no matter how logical persuasion he would receive. It seems that I cherish a negative image on the word, unlike you.
As to the words 無神論者 and 不可知論者, I sometimes hear the former one though I never say or hear it in daily conversation. When I read books a bit related to philosophy, I came across the latter one. Its meaning is so complicated and sophisticated that I couldn't grasp it though.
性差別主義者・・ I'm not familiar with the word either. This word sounds like a little strange, probably because I seldom hear this.
Well, these are all my arbitrary opinion, so please don't take them seriously.
I really can't tell if any right word in japanese, for this english word "slut" (I mean, in the daily conversation level). だらしない女 or あばずれ might be that, but still they aren't really used in usual talk, at least I don't use them. Probably, some other words like... ehm.. don't ask me what the exact expressions they are.. anyway, you say slut could be used for friends, not in the insulting way but japanese version expressions might not be used the same way.
For you, "racist" sounds strong and 人種差別主義者 doesn't much, I see.. interesting to me. Since both do sound very strong to me, just the sound of 人種差別主義者 "jinshu sabetsu shugisha" is too long and not being used as a name..like, "Hey, you racist. ..." but "おい、人種差別主義者!" sounds a bit too much and odd. I have seen it was said like "レイシスト", again some people might use the kanji version but i have never seen it.
I think, many many people in Japan are not very much religious (I am one of them). As you know, people go to the shrine on the new years day. And they go to the temple in summer (Bon season in August), and they say Merry Christmas in december... And still, these are now like the events in year, still the bon season praying could be a bit serious though. So, these words atheist and agnostic, or 無神論者 and 不可知論者 don't give me any feeling as the words. Maybe, could sound strong and provocative for some religious people.
Literally, yes 男女差別主義者 is a right word but I understand you have heard it not too often in real life. As the impression for me, only some "feminists" sometimes yell this word out loud on some media but actually, it doesn't appear to me the exact 男女差別 but simply the differences between men and women. (You know, often these two definitions get mixed) Well, the language wise, again "男女差別主義者 danjo sabetsu shugisha" sounds too long and not really used in the daily talk.
I might be wrong, but this is my opinion. I hope it makes sense for you.
>>429 I think we rarely if ever call others 人種差別主義者 even when they're making shockingly racist comments which, if translated in English, would make English speakers piss in their pants. I just couldn't think of a realistic situation in which I'd use that word to describe or refer to a person.
As for technical terms in European philosophy, I guess the Japanese language doesn't help you grasp concepts at all. It's like you can't explain well the philosophy of Confucianism in English or other European languages.
>性差別主義者・・ I'm not familiar with the word either.
So I'm not the only one. I felt relieved to hear that.
>>431 "You racist!" sounds strong to me, and 「レイシスト!」is rather funny to hear. I guess 人種差別主義者 is too formal or "heavy," not an ad hominem label. I don't know how I can offend others by claiming they have a racist view in Japanese. Can you do that?? I guess not. This is also the case with 性差別主義者, I think.
As for religion, I don't think many religious Japanese know what 不可知論者 means. So it doesn't seem to me whether we're religious or not is the crux.
>>437 Yes. I don't know why 女性差別主義者(more wordy word) become more familiar. I suppose 女性差別主義者 is more explicit and plain than 性差別主義者 which souds like study word.
Not hearing those expressions in the daily talk is one thing, and offending others by calling them with those names is another thing, I guess. I don't really have an idea how to offend them by what "name" I could call them with, in japanese. Not only 人種差別主義者 and 性差別主義者 but all wises.
"あなたは女性差別主義者ですね" might work, but "この女性差別主義者!"sounds a bit.. how to say.. odd. I might bite my tongue.
About 「レイシスト」, I only have "seen" the text, not "heard" as the sound when it was said. So, you might be right, it could sound funny. Maybe, not as natural said (sound wise) as english one.
>>437 In reality racist is used to describe white people's racism too.
Maybe sexist is the same.
But sexist and racist are more general and comprehensive words, or politically correct words.
Sexist is applicable to any situations but it may be inconvenient to accuse the concrete sitiation of men's discrimination against women. It can dillute woman's intention. That is probably why 女性差別主義 is more popular in Japan.
By the way, 逆差別reverse discrimination is used to mean 男性差別主義. I've never heard of 男性差別主義(者). We should create new word 男性差別主義者.
Name calling is the last resort for unintelligent people when they cannot discuss a topic in depth, whichever side they take. Each one alone desn't mean much. However, labeling serves a great sorting purpose sometimes and is totally sufficient if any other possible explanations or persuations don't really work, I think.
>>442 Hrm. You reminded me of this American who said American English is best when it comes to swearing. He taught me "asshole" and "douche bag" are synonyms in American English, which I though was very strange. Don't you think they should be antonyms? A hole and something to be put in to an opening next to the hole in question.
Racialist is a new word for racist to hike "racist" position. Mr.David Duke won't be offended by being called racialist. Or Racism instead of Racial realism. Mr.Jared Taylor is famous for his racial realism.
In addition is it true that racist and racism are strange words linguistically?
I heard adjective "racial" with "ist" or "ism" was correct. noun "race" and "ist" or "ism" is incorrect.
Ok, I'm done. So you mean a woman uses 女性差別主義 because she differentiates discrimination against one sex to THE other and ignore homosexual persons and such? How not sexist she is!
>>446 I guess if a linguistic theory claims a popular word used by native speakers is WRONG, then it's messed up already. What native speakers say is correct, not the other way around.
I'm not saying descriptive grammar is superior to prescriptive one, but if a set of prescriptive rules don't much the vernacular, it's bulls-, er, not accurate, if you ask me.
>>449 Sorry, homosexual isn't the right word. But there are many who has XXY genes or something, not XY (male) nor XX (female). I forgot what it is called. But there're more such people than you expect, I guess.
Ah, I can't write proper English any more lol. Maybe I need to go to bed. Thanks for your comments. I'll come back to this thread later. I'm still looking forward to more opinions and comments.
>>466 I couldn't make out what URC suggests and I looked it up on Wiktionary. I've forgotten the mechanism but certainly male 三毛 is said to be rare. I'm now interested in why you know this.
>>468 Um, which do you want to know; why I know the acronym or why I know 三毛 trivia?
IIRC is a very frequent abbreviation so I don't know when and where I picked it up. As for 三毛, I love cats and used to go to ねこたま in 二子玉川 when I lived in Kanagawa.
>>469 Wow, I just saw the ねこたま while reading articles about 三毛猫 just now! I understand why you've seen male 三毛猫. Well, the fact that you are cats' lover made me feel happy because I like cats and animals very much. I keep cats in my house.
Um, it seems impossible to keep my eyes open.. Good night!
PS. I made a mistake about ミケネコ. One has XXY chrosome is male, and that's why male ミケネコ is rare.orz
And he is the pioneer of drug addiction trend and the pioneer of DQN parents naming childer strange names. His son is 美勇士(ミュージ), which comes from "music"ミュージック.
Overmore he was born with a silver spoon and succeeded his family business.
Im so glad. I passed Eiken(Japanese English approval) yes I passed, only written exam... I know Im good at English. My score on the test is better than any other student in my school Yes... except for FUCKING LISTENING test
I have to goto take an interview of “Eiken英検” tomorrow moning I guess I never will have a good sleep tonight
>>473 I've never taken the test in question, but I always thought listening sections are generally the easiest in standardized tests. You're not required to know difficult vocabulary or complex grammar rules. Maybe, didn't you study pronunciation?
>>477 What's b&? If you mean it's easy to find an answer by googling, I won't because I'm lazy.
アメリカ人 worte he accessrd to 2ch with i-pod touch. I know i-phone have internet access function but i-pod touch, too?
アメリカ人 mentioned there's a possibility that he and the administrator of 4chan goes to the same university if he goes NY university.
I wrote before that the leading actor, Zack? of high school musical will enroll in USC according to Japan's wikipedia article, but maybe he hasn't read my post.
To think he's an avid fan of High School Musical and dances to the video at least twice a day, he'll choose to go to USC. How can a boy like Zack who must be extremely busy with acting jobs achieve good enough academic record to apply for USC, which is a very good uni? Is it all about recommendation letter, not GPA?
>>412 ( ・ω・) I am going to be studying Physics. What about you? >>417 I find her utterly annoying and unbearable. I don't really understand why anyone is attracted to her. She may be attractive but I cannot see it. She is so annoying that it causes me to see her as ugly.
>>485 It is; however, the term "attractive" used in regard to a man or woman usually focuses on their appearance alone. A beautiful girl would be considered attractive. Some of it may be subconsciously determined by her personality, but the main reason is her appearance. ( ・ω・) Please let me know if I need to clarify further.
>>487 Exactly. He may PERSONALLY find her attractive but when some random person is describing her they would not call her attractive because she is ugly.
>>483 I see. i-pod touch give you web browsing. And Banned. Thanks. I'm not banned from google. If It's not the matter of laziness, what's that? Maybe I'm an idiot. I have to admit I don't like sorting out websites on a search result pages to find the best website that matches what I'm looking for.
>>484 Apply for Calitech or MIT. Are they too difficult?
Japanese people in general have good and positive views on Western people, because of the popularity of Hollywood actors and singers. That's why Japan is a heaven for American losers who have no skills other than teaching English in Japan.
Emily is figure is very good. Nice boobs and her speaking Japanese is an advantage to draw attentions of Japanese men. Not many foreigners speak English as good as her. That's appealing to Japanese men, too. But if she's ugly inside, then the ugly side of her personality will surface bit by bit. Maybe e-begging is the first step, although it was done in English so people comenting on her blog might not know the fact that she's asking for money. I don't know. Let's face it. She has attractive body, beautiful face. I want to screw her although she's not a good girl to get married with or go out with, though. I don't know much about her inside but she's beautiful at least in terms of appearance.
>>495 Well as for prestige, undergraduate really doesn't matter anyways. University of Texas is a great school though! You will learn a lot there I think.
>>494 Calitech only has 900 students in total but they are all excellent. MIT has more students but more students mean some not so good students can be seen among total number of students. So on average, the quality of students is better in Calitech. That's what I read somewhere.
>>479 Yup, Im borrowing my neighbor's wifi to post with my iPod touch's full browser capabilities. Sorry for not answering your post before! USC is known for its film school so I'm sure the actor's experience is a huge advantage on his application. Plus they get bragging rights if he goes there. For the record I hate high school musical, much to the dismay of my host sister (she must have 8 posters in her room of just "Zack"). >>484 Nice. I liked the physics class I took last year but not enough to take the AP level ones. I want to major in Computer Science with a dual minor in Scientology/Scatology.
I was reading some of the previous posts about labels and saw atheist/agnostic mentioned and that they aren't commonly used. In the US they are used fairly often, mostly because there is a huge stigma against atheists. In my literature class we've been discuss the morals (or lack of) of the character Meursault in Albert Camus' The Stranger. My teacher keeps linking immoralism and atheism, much to the ire of myself and another classmate. Separation of church and state? I don't think so.
By the way, I'm going to Nagoya in the fall for research purposes. What is the general opinion of Nagoya? I've heard some people (mostly JETs, although I take everything they say with a grain of salt) express a rather low opinion of Nagoya, but I fail to see why.
>>497 Caltech students overall are indeed more academically excellent; however, I heard that MIT realized that students who were purely academic did poorly in the school. I'm also applying to Stanford! They have a very good Physics program as well. My number one choice is Princeton though. Their undergraduate Physics program seems to be the best. >>498 I wanted to become a Computer Scientist as well until I learned more about Physics. I'm the sort of person who has to know and understand the underpinnings of EVERYTHING. w >>499 wwww Maybe he can teach us the Kusomiso Technique! >>500 ( ・ω・) Huh? University of Texas at Austin is considered one of the "Public Ivy" schools. Am I mixing up schools or something? University of Georgia is not on the same level as University of Texas. Georgia Tech is highly ranked but I always hear bad things about their engineers so I have no idea what to think about it.
>>500 Eh? I'm not studying English. I'm an Americunt, so I speak a good approximation of English.
>>501 I think UT is considered a "Public Ivy," but I'm actually at UT Dallas. I just said UT because I was pretty sure nobody has ever heard of UT Dallas. It's like the fifth or sixth choice for a lot of potential engineering majors.
>>498 If you and Zack are both accepted by USC, your host sister must scream with excitment and send you her panty or two. You must take photos of him and send them to her in return. But that can't beat the thrill and pleasure of stealing them.
>>499 You said you are American, then why did you ask about your university? Just wanted to know your university's reputation from American? What do you want to know about Nagoya? Nagoya is the third or fourth largest city so very urbanized. Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya, Yokohama.... I don't know why the JETs have low opinion about Nagoya, but maybe they just like Tokyo metropolitan area.
As you may know two of three Japanese Nobel Prize winners last year studied at Nagoya university.
>>503 I wasn't really asking a question. It was more of a joke implying that nobody has ever heard of the university that I go to. Apparently, though I was wrong.
Also, even a lot of people in the West know about Kusomiso Technique. 古いネタですから。
Moderate excersise is good for your health. Are you doing some excersise every day ? In my case, strolling around nearby park at night is my routine excersise.
>>506 It was my first time that I knew there's a site we can practice Karate online. How did you do that? I guess that a Karate teacher explain you how to kick or punch in the display, and you imitate the way he perfome. Am I right?
>>509 It's just a joke. There was that kind of joke in manzai or Yoshimoto Shinkigeki. 「いてもうたろか、われ。俺は空手の黒帯だぞ、コラ。通信教育だけどな。」 I arranged this joke to fit Internet age. That is, online Karate course.
Does these posts >>502>>500 mean some of us write proper English so it's not always easy to spot native speakers? I always thought it was a cinch for native speakers to put their fingers on non-native-ish errors. And this makes me wonder: Have you ever met a non-native speaker of your mother tongue who would pass for a native speaker when s/he writes a long passage?
I know everyone can speak fairly well with some accent reduction training. Besides, even native speakers make a ton of errors when speaking. Actually there're a bunch of youtube videos of faking native speakers of virtually any major language.
But I was thinking you could never get away with errors in your written text; literate native speakers make far fewer errors in their writings than in speech, so your unnatural word choices and idiosyncratic errors do stick out if made any.
My English skills are limited and I can't tell who writes native-like posts, but I do know some of posters in here have a better command of English than me (Thank you, advanced learners! I learned a lot from you.). Do they write flawlessly? If so, it's amazing. I've never seen a Japanese learner having such high level writing skills.
Ah, by "Japanese learner" in the last line of >>513, I mean a person who is learning the Japanese language as a foreign language. Sorry, it was confusing.
>>518 It's Superhuman by Modern Day Zero, and I like the band. As for girls, I like all sorts of good looking females. Dominatrices are fine too.
When I run into the cool vid, I didn't know the anime series shown in the vid, and it made me give it a shot. I watched the first few eps of its English dub somewhere on the internet, and now I have a copy of DVD on my HD. If you don't mind anime and stuff, I recommend it.
I forgot to mention the title. The series is Black Lagoon. All characters including the female protagonist are supposed to be speaking English in the show, and, in my humble opinion, their voice acting is pretty good.
Ah, and I wanted to say "When I ran across the vid,". Sorry, I always make stupid errors here and there.
>>521 I watch some anime, so I'll try it. Thanks. Maybe I can find those eps on youtube, right? I hope the English is not that hard for me to follow.
BTW, I'd be interested to know how English-dubbed versions sound to native speakers of English. Lot's of Japanese-dubbed movies sound sort of odd, as their Japanese is sometimes superficial. I like them that way, but I'm curious if it's the same as with English.
>>522 I think you can find all eps on some streaming site if you google the title. If you don't mind it, I'm pretty sure you can torrent 'em all. I do recommend you buy DVDs if you like it though.
As for English in the show, it's pretty easy. Pronunciation is clear and they don't use big words. Probably you'll pick up new words/phrases that you're not familiar with so it's a good way to hone your English skills, if you ask me.
I don't watch anime in Japanese a lot so I'm not sure if English dubs are better in general. But, from my own experience, I can tell you old series most likely suck and new, popular ones are generally good. They often hire famous voice actors who voices in foreign movies, tv ads, and whatnot for popular anime. If you prefer more easy-to-localize shows, you're in luck. Black Lagoon is a good example: Charactors are all supposed to be speaking English. Of course, you may end up hearing squeeky voices if you like so called moe anime and stuff. But still, even dubs of moe-ish shows are sometimes very good, if not better than the original Japanese dubs.
Anyway, you can try some eps of each series you have watched in Japanese so you can see if English is shit or not.
Oh man, Black Lagoon is one of my favorite animes. As for dubs, I really liked the dubbing in The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (that is also one of my all time favorites). >>513 As in fluent non native speakers? There are plenty of fluent non native speakers at my school (most of them Chinese expats) who write and speak perfectly. Remeber though, being able to write well is distinctive from being a fluent writer. Some of you here are good enough to get away with it as well, such as yourself. The only thing quirky I noticed was your usage of there're. While it's used in speech it looks very odd in writing and I would suggest not using the contraction. If anything though that could be a mistake a native speaker would make as well. >>507 Oh man that get brings back memories. I use to play it at friends house all the time although it must have been an older version because the graphics were terrible lol.
My song for today is anything by "The National". I went on YouTube but I couldn't decide on one single song to pick lol. "Fake Empire" is their most popular song though so if you're interested I'd search for that one first.
>Remeber though, being able to write well is distinctive from being a fluent writer.
Being a fluent writer is a toll order for me...
>The only thing quirky I noticed was your usage of there're.
I always use the contraction whenever I'm in sort of speaking mode. For some reason, sometimes I can't help but write the way I speak. Apparently that's why I can't do without a spell checker. I'm terrible when it comes to spelling. (terrable? terrible? Well, firefox says "terrable" is rediculous... oh wait.)
I'll write more in the next post. Somehow longer posts won't appear.
Yes! Black Lagoon is awesome. I think Haruhi is one of good examples of excellent English dubs of moe-ish anime. The voice action of Kyon, Haruhi, and many other casts are convincing to me. Though it's not my kind of anime, I picked up lots of vocab from the show.
I guess popular in US = at least torelable dubs. Am I right? It seems to me Outraw Star, Trigun, Hellsing, and most of fairly new, popular ones are dubbed very well.
>>528 Ahhh, what's "toll order"?? I wanted to say "It's a tall order." Spell checkers always fail me when it comes to but-it's-also-a-word kind of typo.
>>503 I am sort of a student of 2ch internet culture. I have been following it since 2004 or so. Same with Futaba. Please teach me 2ch jokes! ( ・ω・) Is the Yoshinoya rant still well known?
>>531 Not >>503, but since 2004? I'm a newfag compared to you then. I've been on 2ch for only a year or so, but I know what the Yoshinoya rant means. So I guess it could still pop up once in a while in a few threads, but it seems to be obsolete.
So you speak Japanese well enough to be able to follow Futaba. I must admit sometimes I don't understand their moonspeak even though I'm Japanese. Which boards are you on?
>>533 ( ・ω・) My Japanese really isn't very good at all. I have a lot of trouble but I can roughly figure out what a lot of posts mean basically through experience. Futaba also has images so it's a little easier to follow what's going on if you already know what the image means. I spend most of my time on may, jun and some of the other neta boards. I'm not surprised the Yoshinoya rant is obsolete. It is extremely old. I wonder if there is any new popular kopipe that I don't know about.
>>536 >I can roughly figure out what a lot of posts mean basically through experience. That's impressing. I used to occasionally browse jun, may and others, but my ISP got b& from Futaba so I fled to 4chan because I didn't have much trouble understanding English. I think you're learning Japanese in a natural way. I wouldn't be surprised if you eventually achieve native-like fluency. Well, in my case, /b/ significantly lowered my IQ and /a/ has been hurting my grammar for ages though.
Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with 2ch memes. I have tons of 4chan pasta on my HD, but to me, remembering 2ch memes does more harm than good. Hmm... In retrospect, maybe I shouldn't have saved 4chan pasta either. They're funny but usually stupid and always contain a dash of grammatical errors thrown in for good measure.
>>537 I am a long time 4chan user as well except now 4chan is really lame. orz If you are interested in 4chan kopipe please visit this site: http://halcy.de/kopipe/index.html.down ( ・ω・) Why do you say remembering 2ch memes does more harm than good?
>>538 Japanese is my mother tongue and if I remembered a meme, maybe I'd blurt it out without thinking. You know, memes always have some stupidity in them. If I say something strange in English, it'd be ok because all I need to say is "Ah, maybe I said something wrong? Sorry if I may have offended you. It's my second language after all..." But I wouldn't be able to get away with it if I said something awkward. Memes are memes for a reason. They're catchy. I can see myself saying a meme or two out of habit without realizing it.
>>533 Remembering 2ch memes is pretty bad if you want to actually learn Japanese. After all, most 2ch jokes, in my experience, are based on improper usage of kanji and other intentional (or maybe unintentional) errors.
One that I see that still pops up a lot is the whole 「Xけど何か質問ある?」thing. Sometimes you see equivalents on Western *chans, but you see it a lot in in news4vip. By the way, I don't endorse hanging around there; it'll affect your Japanese and your intelligence in many more ways than memorising old neta ever will.
>>540 4chan sure has been hurting my grammar. I can tell you from my own experience. That said, it greatly helped me improve fluency. I'm not sure if non-native speakers should avoid an idiosyncratic language register. It's not like I'd say, "eh doesn't afraid of anything" in real life. And like I said, if I did, it wouldn't be that big a problem.
>>540 w Yes, I know most of the Japanese is not exactly correct. I do not use 2ch as a method for learning Japanese really. The main benefit to me is that it causes me to look up kanji which reinforces it in my memory. For my Japanese studies I usually stick to books and other resources. Thank you for your concern though! >>542 It is now much more popular and for this reason the quality of posts has gone down a lot. Long ago everyone knew what kind of posts were considered quality on 4chan, and every one knew the inside jokes. It allowed for a very witty interchange to go on within threads. Now 4chan's users are from all over the internet and do not particularly subscribe to the "4chan" sense of humor. Now 4chan is like any other site on the internet and has lost that original charm. There are hardly any new jokes or interesting comments being made; most of the threads are about posting naked girls. Also the attitude of the users has become unfitting for an anonymous site. Before people would make cool and funny posts hoping to contribute to the website. Now people try to make memorable posts for fame. I'm not sure why anyone would try to post for attention on an anonymous board, but it seems to happen a lot now. ( ・ω・) Basically I am just bitter that my secret club website of internet nerds has now become mainstream. wwwww
What do you Japanese users enjoy about 4chan? What makes it interesting
>>544 To me, old 4chan was moving too slow. And I think I find it interesting because it has lots of posts and I can get a reply in a second. Increasing popularity may have been lowering its quality, but as an outsider, the more people, the better. English isn't my native tongue, so I can't be a true member of it in the sense that I never fully understand a post as the same level as you do. So, as long as it keeps certain quality, it's all right. Inside jokes are all well and good, but they sure repel casual users, and most of Japanese aren't hardcore anons, I think. The numbers of users are the main reason why I don't frequent other *chans too.
Ah, and 4chan, especially /a/, taught me a lot about otaku/weeaboo culture. It's definitely interesting to know what foreign weeaboos (I know it's kind of a tautology.) think of our subculture.
That being all said, maybe why I frequent 4chan can be boiled down to the fact that I love an image board. Simply, it's fun!
>>546 Um, I'm not sure how I can help you in this Chat in English thread. Maybe fixing your grammar would help a little? If you want me to do so, let me know.
If you're a native English speaker, it'd be nice to correct errors and/or refine our wording. I'm >>545 (right above you) and some other long posts about anime/English/4chan/other nonsense.
Trying to explain to Japanese posters: 4chan is considered the retards of the western internet. They are mostly 14 - 18 year old boys who think repeating catchphrases makes them a comedy genius. Please to not consider them representative of Western people. Do you have idiots in your country?
>>547 Yes I am a native english speaker from England. I'm not sure where else to post this on the site. I find Japanese grammar to be very confusing at times, but I've only been learning Japanese for a few months, and I am sitting an exam in it in the Summer so I have plenty of time to improve. I prefer learning kanji to grammar so I should proably shift my attention. I don't really need help to be honest, I just wanted to say it :)
>>544>>548 It's pretty much the same with 2ch. Just so many attention seekers over here, too. I'm sure there's a reason or two for them but most of them don't even post anything remotely interesting nowadays. They just want to inflate their egos, which is a quite natural desire, but why on 2ch when there's so many other places that can fulfill their needs? There used to be a lot of funny assholes even with tripcodes, but those days are gone and the majority of anons are retarded as well. Though, the native speakers here on this board are exempted from that blame, because your posts serve a legitimate purpose of helping us with English and I, for one, really appreciate it.
>>548 Thanks, captain obvious. I'm fully aware that 4chan is a cesspool filled with retarded on the internet. I do think anyone who consider those faggots are representing Westerners has a fucked up brain.
Our country does have a plethora of idiots such as myself. I thought it was a common sense that idiots are everywhere.
>>549 Then you're good at picking a language up. Your Japanese seems good for a learner who only spent a few months, though it might be too short to see if it's true. I've read a blog claiming Japanese learners should learn all 2000 kanji first. I don't know if it's more efficient, but he only spent a few years but sounds like a native speaker so you might be interested:
>>551 Your knowledge of websites has impressed me. Even to the point that it validates you assuming a general comment was aimed at you. Thank you for explaining also the distribution of idiots via the globe. Unfortunatley it seems though your english is not well developed enough to trace "sarcasm". If you wish I would honor to re-educate you. ^_^
>553 wwww You are showing your misunderstanding. I know "Troll" is a mythical creature like unicorn or Jesus. Though from what I know from this troll they are slow and stupid. Retard maybe. In this case, you are very excellent at trolling sir!
>>554 Yes. I'm good at trolling. Actually I just got this guy who's kindly educating me. Trolling is one of the best ways to learn a second language, don't you think?
>>555 I fail to see how being retard assist in learning language? Unless maybe American? From what I know retard is common in their culture. Maybe you will fit in, well?
>>556 Yes, I'd fit perfectly in if it's idiotic culture.
Joking aside, I think acquiring a language is developing a new linguistic persona in the target language. And to understand a given persona, you need to know other characters as well to compare with. It's like if you want to be a "good" boy, you need to know how a spoilt brat would behave.
I guess we've been mimicking adults and peers when we were kids as absorbing our first language(s), and through this mimicking, or acting if you will, we naturally gained deep knowledge of personas, culture and so on. Alas, we adults don't have leeway to mimic other idiots in real life so it seems very hard to learn "good behavior."
I think trolling on the internet is a good approximation of this learning process. Also, on anonymous fora, it is fairly easy to sock puppet multiple persons with different personas. If children are "acting" to develop a persona and it is vital to acquire their first language, then it stands reason that the online mimicry is beneficial to adult language learners.
Well, I got bored. Does this make sense to you? If so, that's why. If not, I don't care.
What do Japanese people think of Americans who love moe and stuff like Lucky Star? Other Americans see us as disgusting losers but I'm sure you all understand us. Maybe I should move to Japan?
Anyway, there's no point trying to figure out what others are really thinking in an online discussion. There's no way to prove I'm the same guy as the idiot you've been talking to. You can't tell if I'm really Japanese or not. Can you?
You take everything serious and nothing will be obtained. You ignore everything in here and nothing will be lost. Everything is meaningless on anonymous boards. It's that simple.
Spent the weekend in London, for about the first time since I was sixteen. Stayed at Trafalgar Square, visited the National Gallery and Victoria and Albert Museum. They had a special exhibition on Imperial Russia, which was pretty interesting, but also a room on Japanese artwork, mainly 浮世絵 but other things too. There were a few pieces of artwork in the corner by Utagawa Sadahide which were quite bizarre... like an octopus with a teapot instead of a head. That was interesting too. And saw the Russian girl from the train again.
Managed to mutilate my feet by walking around too much in new shoes (after the old ones split in half on the bottom), and almost thought I'd set the fire alarm off in the hotel after it started sounding the moment I opened my room door. And had nothing to eat today except for a blueberry muffin. Memorable times.
>>561 Although I'm not completely sure about moe, Lucky Star doesn't seem to be one in that category. I don't really see how those characters could appeal to the audience in that way, but their conversations contain some wit, I suppose.
By the way, I learned a new usage of the verb "trace" from your post. I kind of knew it could be used in that sense, but I wasn't 100% sure. Now I learned it from clear context. Thank you!
>>563 After meeting with the Japanese girl, this time you showed the Russian girl you met on the train around London? You, lucky dog. I guess you couldn't sleep tight the day before with your heart pounding. At least you didn't have to be nervous about speaking in Japanese before you saw her.
On a different note, in that this is about a girl, it's on the same note, Hirosue Ryoko made appearance on TV this morning. She's now in America to participate in Academy Award. She is in a movie nominated to the award as a foreign film. She and other actors and the director is supposed to walk on the red carpet to particiapte in the ceremony.
>>565 Got as far as Soho Square, but didn't go deep down into it. The Japanese visitors from last Tuesday were telling me about it, though. About the pub with a rainbow flag in the window, and with men holding hands with other men and women groping each other. They seemed totally shocked. But a bit amused too.
That reminds me... as I was about to board my train back home today, these two guys were totally making out and feeling each other up before one got on the train. I've got nothing against gay couples, but this was just indecent. Even heterosexual couples don't do things like that.
>>577 It's one I've been meaning to watch, but just haven't found the time... has it been released on DVD yet?
>>575 I met her on a different train, back in November 2007. She was travelling with a colleague, as they both work at Moscow State University and were on some kind of seminar, but doing sightseeing on the side.
>>578 Amazon.co.jp says DVD's available from March 18th. Probably this is the case of the Japanese version and you have to wait longer to get subbed or dubbed version... I don't know.
Okuribito's promotion website is really heavy now probably because many people here want to know more about it now.
>>579 Oh no... there wasn't anything accidental about it. Got a message from her just over a week ago, saying she was going to be in London last week. Couldn't go down while I was working, but arranged to meet over this weekend.
Hadn't actually seen her other than on the train, so she seemed shorter than expected.
>>561 Unless you perfome stupid things, such as dancing on the street with anime costume, mamy people accept you with open arms. Basically, I think people feel somehow happy to hear foreigners like things related to Japan! But be careful, decent adults tend to hate or be completely ignorant of otaku.
>>582 >Hadn't actually seen her other than on the train, so she seemed shorter than expected.
Haha. That's funny. You guys were seated on the train, you didn't recognized how tall she was the first time you met her. I guess she and you have good chemistry to think that it just took only a few hours of chatting on the train (and maybe exchanging email) to have been to the point where you almost went out.
>>561 Basically, you would be accepted compared with the same kind of Japanese otaku, but otaku is also avoided here. Personally, I don't have any negative feeling to them, but I admit that I'm worried about communicating with them because their conversation topics are very narrow and deep.
>>561 Otaku gaijins are cool because when I see them talking about Japanese culture it makes me feel like I'm cool and awesome even though I'm just a loser who has done nothing to contribute to the culture. Otakus are welcome here~ However, I watched Lucky Star some time ago and it was boring as shit.
When I visited a thread concerned about Syouichi Nakagawa, I found the link to a youtube video, in which a famous journalist explained that his drunkun interview was a plot caused by a high official. And he also said that Japan was in fact thanked for its contributuin to IMF at the G7 meeting. He deplared Japanese media's guilt, saying that they only emphasized how China was important without introducing Japanese donations.
By the way, I found Yoshimi Watanabe, who is a politician, had his own channel on youtube, and I was startled.
>>596 We should develop media literacy on our part and reveal how untrustworthy they are. Off the top of my head, at least the current Japanese media have two problems. One, they don't provide any information necessary to judge what's good and what's not. They love to accentuate the dark side of one thing. Let's say, the value of yen. When the value of yen goes up, they say Japan's economy's dead (while they say Japan's economy's dead when it goes down. - what the fuck?) Always one-sided view of things with dark impression. And two, like you brought up the subject about ex-financial minister Nakagawa, they don't want to report of any good thing. They say they have the right not to report : all that is important is whether it's in favor of themselves. (Personally I think it's awful when they say, "the right to know". ) I'm sick of the Japanese media, especially TV news sucks.
>>597 What is bizarre about Japanese media is they seem to be quite indifferent to national interest. I think this attitude is somewhat good in terms of world peace and international cooporation. But I doubt they are actually care about kind of international cooporation. I'm wondering if they just like picking up someone's failures or just all pessimists.
The background of Satoshi's picture is Kaysersberg, Alsace, France. However, it's probable that Satoshi isn't there anymore. Apparently, several Japanese companies used to have local branches there, but have since moved on. The owners of the site received a tip that Satoshi was in Los Angeles for a short amount of time, but it's unknown if this is true.
Also, it's been confirmed that this Satoshi is not Satoshi Hirabayashi or Dr. Satoshi Habuchi.
>>601 I read through about the project on the website. Sounds interesting.
The biggest barrier for the project to secceed is a language barrier. The project was started by a British company and all the info about the project is written in English.
There has to be conventional influential Japanese media and online media involved in this project to find him.
Okuribito, the winner of Academy foreign film award was directed by a a man who has a history of derecting porn movies.
It's not easy to climb up the ladder to be a decent director who is entrusted with big money and shooting a decent film. Maybe I should start from becoming a porn actor in B movies and decades later, I can imagine myself on Academy award stage, after walking on the red carpet, introduced by Tom Hanks as a winner of Leading actor category.
Nice carrer path, eh? I'd make a speech that goes like, "Two decades ago, I was nothing. Posting in 2ch and wasting time there waking up all night. Now I'm here on this stage for one of the the most prestageous awards in the world. I thank all 2channelers I trolled and was trolled by. I can't beleive I was at the keybpard typing shivering in the dark without turning on room lights decades ago.... speech continues.
>>596-597 Considering the role of journalism that is expected, they should rather be critical of power than being a propaganda machine catering to the authorities; I would just turn off the TV set that keeps telling me how important it is for us to hold onto mythical patriotic pride no matter what and then everything is going to be alright. However, I agree that today's mass media tend to accomodate the taste of the public to the extent that they are no different to sleazy tabloid papers that can sell, but don't really get deeper into an untouchable level where the real interest lies. Probably, they never will confront secretive power whatever it is. They do shape public opinion but also relfect social and cultural characteristics of a nation, in a way.
Prime minister Aso is going to attend a conference at white house. It seems that Japan is the first country to be invited there for the Obama cabinet.
This news sounds like really good news for us but we cannot take it at face value. A journalist said ‘ the president Obama must have intention to demand Japan for its extra financial contribution as an ally. ’ There is a truth behind the special treatment!
>>612 Good example.. Aso can be a competent diplomat, but I think it's tough for him to refuse Obama's demands. I think Aso must stand oppressive pressure of the U.S. officials during the meeting. Creepy...
lol what's this?lololololol i suggest you go to USA or UK if you want to talk in english. LMAO you are all too funny LMFAO lolololololololololololololo btw do you know aly and aj?i love them n thier songs so much.especially "potential break up song"! see ya
>>606 Farting is much worse by far. Isn't that the same everywhere? >>610 The Age of Empire series are pretty good Real Time Strategy games. Starcaft and Warcraft (Not World of Warcraft obviously) are other popular games in the same genre. However Starcraft is mainly popular in Korea.
>>611 America seems to being attempting to suck money from Japan, that is to say, we might be regarded as their "wallet". They might have played up to us by having awarded the winner of Academy to Okuribito.
>>624 I guess he's like my cousin who moved to US when she was 5 and forgot how to speak Japanese. She still understands what me and her mother are saying in Japanese but always responds in English. She speaks English like your average American and that's the only language she can hold a meaningful conversation. I'm sure there is a scientific term for this but can't remember. Could have googled it, but I'm as lazy as you.
This is particularly interesting to me because my Japanese too is getting rusty, though I don't think I'd completely forget my mother tongue like her.
>>629 Thanks. As for his fluency, I think IQ has nothing to do with it. The dumbest kids in your local kindergarten will acquire their first language without any problem. Sure he must be very smart, but language acquisition doesn't require intelligence unless you're talking about eloquent orators, novelists and whatnot.
One thing I noticed is his voice gets higher when speaking Japanese. My friends who are fluent in both J and E all have this tendency and my pitch also becomes higher too. I wonder if there is any linguistic difference in pitch between J and E.
>>630 It probably has something to do with the pitch accent in Japanese.
Or it may have something to do with how the particular way someone talks is perceived across cultures? How is speaking in a very low pitch perceived in Japan?
On the topic of Japanese film have you guys heard anything about "TOKYO!" or "Tokyo Sonata"? Both are going to be screening starting in the next couple months and my friends and I were planning on seeing them. I guess I have to see "Okuribito" and "Tsumiki no le" now as well lol.
>>617 Starcraft is actually pretty ppular here in the US as well, but obviously to not nearly the same degree as in South Korea.
Masi Oka is really interesting considering his major was in computer science and he his first job was at ILM. >>630 We had a student here who was majoring in lingustics but she hasn't posted in a long time...
>>621 Stupid me. I am often confused about some pronouciations related to 'a'. For example: match and much, fun and fan. Moreover, l and r are also difficult for me to recognize.
Incidentally, I think Japan has much different chalacter from the other countries. Although Japan usually accepts all culture as possible, but the basis of Japan's chalacter never changes. As a result, Japan has something which is different from the other. Not to say highly, but to say about strangeness, No country can produce the movie Okuribito without Japan. That's all I thought about Okuribito.
>>636 Cell phone has so much functions that human beings cannot completely handle it. I don't grasp all functions of my cell phone. I'm afraid cell phone in the future will fits up a function as telephone newly.
Your English is good, but the line >I'm afraid cell phone in the future will fits up a function as telephone newly. is very confusing. As a native English speaker, I have no idea what you mean.
Cell phone in the future... function as telephon...? I think he's saying that normal telephones will be extinct and cell phones will take over... It's usually very easy for me to understand broken English written by Japanese people but this one is hard.
>>625 If that's the case, he spent most of his childhood(even adulthood) in America, right? I see. That'd make sense. >>627 He is. I'm not sure if he has trouble reading written Japanese because of kanji and tricky Japanese expressions, though.
>>631 Hmm, I haven't given any thought to that. I tend to think people would mumble when they speak in a low pitched voice. But it'd be ok if their speech was acceptable or they speak clearly.
I remember, when Utada Hikaru speaks English, her voice goes down a octave or two compared to when she speaks Japanese.
>>634 I've never heard of either films. I thought you meant "Tokyo Tower". It was sort of a hit like 2 years ago? Anyway, who stars the film(s)?
>>636 No problem. lol I have no trouble understanding.
>>640 That'd probably be it. And I guess he meant mobile phones would make more progress than simply talking, and so we couldn't predict in what direction they would go now.
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>>641 >I remember, when Utada Hikaru speaks English, her voice goes down a octave or two compared to when she speaks Japanese.
Ah, yes. she's not an exception either. I too am curious why J-E bilinguals all sound maturer when speaking English. This also occurs a native English speaker speaks Japanese with an English accent. In this case, his or her voice sounds deeper than the average Japanese.
Apparently there are exceptions because we know some Japanese have deep voices and there should be English speakers with adorable voices. In fact, actors, especially voice actors often change their pitch and tone so that their voice matches characters in play. But it's very interesting to me changing language can naturally alter a speaker's tone of voice.
I don't know if this is cultural (e.g., the emphasis on politeness may have something to do with higher pitch) or purely linguistic (e.g., English may be phonetically lower in pitch), but this is why I don't want Japanese girls to reduce their accent; they always sound cuter with the Japanese accent.
I took the entrance examination of XX university today. This is what I wrote at the English test.
A question was like this; Write in 70 words as if you were studying abroad and introducing your country to people there.
Japan is a country influence by Buddhism. If you come here, you would see temples and shrines are ubiquitous. We visit there to make a New Year's resolution when New Years come around. We also enjoy summer festivals there during summer. Though many of us are not into religion so much but we embrace traditional activities. These days more and more fornigners are participating in our activities, so let's join us without reserve!
>>635 How about Romance of the three kingdoms 11? I haven't played it myself, but the series has been quite popular in Japan. I'm thinking of playing it now.
Oh, by the way, the news says that American president Obama and Japanese priminster Aso met today. Seemingly, they didn't hold a press conference, though.
>>650 Is there Romance in your three kingdoms? I have only one kingdom, and there is Romance also in my kingdom. My kingdom is my onanizum kingdom. In my onanizum kingdom, Sekimori Hinowa is a leading part, and she is nakedly keeping to defeats Kagari every day. This is my vest romance.
>>651 This is notification for you American. Do you know Yoko Osita Yoko the female announcer in Japan? If Oshita Yoko and Obama fighted each other, Would you think which person win ? Do you want Oshita Yoko to become the President U.S.?
>>643 SRPGs or turn-based strategies as I guess they would be more commonly known, are fairly rare on the PC. Most tactical RPGs are found on consoles such as the DS or Playstations and are ususally just translated Japanese SRPGs. This is probably due to the fact that Real Time Strategies are more popular here, although everyone has probably played Final Fantasy. There used to be a lot more PC SRPGs and you can still find a few classics like Fallout 1 and 2. Such games do still exist on the PC however, here's a link to wikipedia because I'm lazy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_role-playing_game#Tactical_RPGs_on_the_PC However most of them are crap.
>>641 >He is. I'm not sure if he has trouble reading written Japanese because of kanji and tricky Japanese expressions, though.
According to the Japanese wiki article about Masi, he can command both Japanese and English at an academic level. From elementary school through middle school, his mother forced him to attend a Japanese school on weekends for 9 years where he had to finish a regular weekly curriculum in just one day every week. Also, it is said that he is fluent in French and Spanish as well. It's not that hard to imagine the man with an IQ of 189 who can handle so much information could grasp a situation presented in a foreign language (technically his native one, though) and then whip out his weaponry of vocaburaly to make a witty riposte. Quite simply, he's not just an ordinary man.
The closest thing to Fire Emblem would be Warcraft 3, though it's a real time strategy and the gameplay is different it's got some epic fantasy storyline and characters (I think that's what >>643 is looking for). I got bored after the first several chapters but it's probably just me.
I find Romance of the Three Kingdoms very complicated and hard. There are a lot of things for me to get used to, such as many commands to order leaders to do things and how to fight enemies, etc. Actually, this is the first time I've ever played this type of video game. I failed to complete a tutorial map where you can learn the basics of how to play the game. Does anyone have tips?
I've been watching Mobile Suit Gundam, the first series of the whole set of series.
The grand story is interesting and Char is fucking fantastic. I can't help but laugh every time Amuro does something, though. He is such a goofy character.
>>659 I know there are lots and lots of fans of it in Japan, but for some reason I've never had a chance to watch any except when I happened to see a piece of the story on TV. You know, Japanese TV stations sometimes broadcast programs like "collections of animes that would bring back your memory" where TV talents get together to see their fav anime and talk about it, or something like that. And all I know about Gundam, though very limited, comes from that kind of TV show.
Did you watch subbed version or dubbed? I'm not sure if dubbed Gundam has ever been made to broadcast in America, though.
with subtitles. i figure i can get the intended experience that way.
by the way, I've noticed there are quite a few shows in Japan where celebrities just sit around and talk. i remember watching this one show where a few people just walked around some small town while it was snowing, went into any interesting shops, and made comical observations about whatever they could find. literally, the entire show was just that.
a show like that is really bizarre to someone who hasn't watched japanese TV show before. there aren't any shows like that in America at all. I suppose the closest thing you could find would be late night talk shows which only have 1 or 2 big name celebrities with each airing. I suppose the corporate executives don't think a show like that, where celebrities talk and play games and shit, would be successful in America.
also, on a lot of japanese shows, they show in a little box in the corner the host of the show. i suppose they do that so that the audience can see his or her reaction. that is another thing which is unique to Japan. when I first saw that, I thought, "why is there a box with the host? who cares about him?" I suppose it is because some people must want to see his reaction... perhaps it is like the equivalent of the laugh track.
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Char is just a charming guy. What can I say? I have no idea how good the voice actor is. I'm not good enough with Japanese to tell how natural he sounded or what else. Where did I learn about anime? I used to watch some other shows when I was younger that played on American television. Mobile Suit Gundam was among those played, but I didn't watch much of it. I decided to try watching some of it again because it is such a long running show, there must be something special about it.
>>662 I had been thought that interview style shows (two or three celebrities carry on their conversation) are majority in America until I read your post. Also, I gave it the reason like ‘English is logical, so western tv programs highly value conversation style.’
Except for such kinds of Japanese show you cited, Japanese tv programs are quite boring. I strongly believe they ruin our sense of morality or intelligence. One reason why they are shit is they are very noisy;we have to listen to background music all time. Another is celebrities such as comedians don't think nothing other than making audiences laugh by making fun of others. The reasons are endless. I'm angry at them.
I advice you not to watch Japanese tv shows for a long time even if you should become fluent in Japanese.
>>662 >I've noticed there are quite a few shows in Japan where celebrities >just sit around and talk. Hahaha, nope, we have many talk shows like that. Probably, people overseas are simply more interested in Japanese game/variety shows. It's natural to me, though. You need to know a lot about Japanese pop/traditional cultures in order to enjoy their talks.
>they show in a little box in the corner the host of the show. Hmm, in a little box in the corner? I'm afraid I don't get it. Do they put their hand(s) into a box with the front side framed with glass where some creatures like turtles or eels are inside?
>>666 >Do they put their hand(s) into a box with the front side framed with glass where some creatures like turtles or eels are inside? Now I'm the one who doesn't know what the hell you are talking about.
>>664 Talking about Gundam, did you notice the person who voice acted as Amuro has been very popular and we can watch/hear him voice acting in many other animes? Off the top of my head, Yamucha (DB/DBZ), Abel(Dragon Quest), Seiya (saint seiya), etc... I like his voice a lot.
>>667 Ahhhh, now I see what you meant. lol Thanks.
>i suppose they do that so that the audience can see his or her reaction. I've never been told why TV producers do that kind of thing, but I think you're right.
And I'm searching for what videos I meant on youtube, but it seems that type of game is too typical to share or anything. I can find one now. Still searching.
>>Do they put their hand(s) into a box with the front side framed with glass where some creatures >like turtles or eels are inside? >Now I'm the one who doesn't know what the hell you are talking about.
>>673 Um, I don't know. This is the first time I've seen the show myself too. The black guy doesn't seem to say anything.
But the guy on the left is Nagura Jun, who's a commedian, and I'm sure he's wearing a blond wigg to make an expression that it's not his true self or anything.
What do you think of Ron Paul? I know he's fairly popular on the internet and I like him too. It's not that I'd have voted for him in the last presidential election if I were American, but what he says is usually clear and lucid. I'm fed up with all those political newspeak devised to obfuscate everything.
Obviously he's too Republican, but to me as a foreigner, he often has a point. I wonder if other Japanese and foreigners would think the same and if Americans are considering him a crazy fundamentalist.
Char is my all time favorite character. He represents all coolness of mankind. However, he turns out to be a guy with lolicon plus mothercon in a later series. lol
>>685 No, when he had used steroid, while Texas player, I don't know precisely but maybe it's not prohibited. And his trainer was dealer. Btw MLB is correct.
>>686-688 Sorry for my late response. I don't know ‘exile’ is a proper word in this context. Oops, MLB.. I have to keep it in mind. orz That was not an irony.
I don't think that Ron Paul is crazy at all, he has some very clear ideas, many of which I agree with.
-Abolish the IRS: I'm not so sure about this one, the IRS has proven itself very useful -Withdraw forces from abroad: I Absolutely disagree. We have various allies that basically rely on our support. Besides, I like the idea of freeing Japan from as many military obligations as possible. |_On a side note I would like to say that we do not extort money from allies, that is an appalling accusation -Cut taxes |_Corporate tax rates are the second highest in the world, we are | not facilitating competitiveness on the world stage as a result. |_Income tax rates are an obvious target for cuts -Cut most welfare related spending, you must have a job or be demonstrably physically/mentally disabled if you want welfare aid -Fully restore second amendment rights, diminish the government's ability to monitor transmissions: I would argue that allowing the government to do so would simply overload them with "white noise", making it an unintentionally good thing.
Ron Paul is liked by kids and teenagers because he's stupid enough to go out on a limb with his batshit policies. They probably see him as radical or something without really considering the horrific and inevitable consequences if his ideas were put into practice. He's kind of like a Che Guevara for republican kids.
Ron Paul is liked by kids and teenagers because he's stupid enough to go out on a limb with his batshit policies. They probably see him as radical or something without really considering the horrific and inevitable consequences if his ideas were put into practice. He's kind of like a Che Guevara for republican kids. His decimation in the elections despite disproportionate media coverage seems to be evidence of this.
“They are confident WITH themselves.” Is this sentense correct? Since I looked up the usage of “confident”, I know “in” is appropriate, but I could get thousands of hits when I googled “confident with themselves”.
I'm expecting both of them are right.. Could anyone help with this problem?
>>698 Google.com isn't that reliable if you're looking for proper grammar and usage. It'd be better to search GoogleBook or GoogleNews instead. If I simply googled the usage of confident, your posts in this thread would show up too.
>>697 With a post dripping with sarcasm and a hypocritical accusation I'm am now in respiratory shock at having been so dramatically 'told' on the internet. 'more full' is a descriptive tautology by the way.
When I am tampering with my penis, I can't forget Sekimori Hinowa even for a moment. Sekimori Hinowa is my best onapet. Sekimori Hinowa is a nice my onapet who appears in Fujita's Manga "Ushio and Tora". Sekimori Hinowa is a littele likes handsome youth. I am masturbating as intensely as a mad beast while imagining the scene that Sekimori Hinowa and Kagari vie for robustness of their thighs. I'm dying to compare Sekimori Hinowa's thigh and Kagari's thigh minutely.
>>700 I understand what you mean. Please let me know express my gratitude. I decided to make use of above sites. As to “confident with themselves” or “confident with myself”, I could get about 100 hits as a whole. However, “confident in” is overwhelming in number, so I assume “in”is proper gramatically. Anyway, thanks.
>>690 WBC first round in Japan is going to start March 5th. Seeing recent game, I thought ichiro seems to have been a little smaller and less power. He hits grounder only.
In America, going to the gym is pretty popular because it is so easy to become overweight and out-of-shape around here. How is it in Japan? From my perspective, it seems like all you people are just naturally thin.
>>714 because it is so easy to become overweight and out-of-shape around here (笑) 会話でのネイエィブぽさを出したつもりなんだろうが、 会話でもそんなのつかわねぇよww 誰が太りやすいんだよ?(笑) 日本語なら暗にアメリカ人てわかるからあえて明示する必要はないが 英語では明示する必要がある。 省略できる場合も多々あるが使い方による。君の書いたものはそもそも省略不可ですwww naturally thinあたりはネィティブぽさを出そうとしたんだなwそれはOKだねw 一流国立大で英語得意でしたなんて奴はintrinsicなんて使いそうだなwww
>>714 >From my perspective, it seems like all you >people are just naturally thin. HA, HA, HA! I really wish you were right. I'm simply fat as whales are. Exercise a lot or enjoy being diabetic. Well, it was a tough choice to make. I decided to go for the first choice. So I've been excercising quite a lot.
I'm not really knowledgeable about the Keitai market, but the "cultural opposition" conspiracy theory sounds pretty lame to me... Because the iPod has completely dominated the Japanese mp3 market and Apple has already established its status as a top-notched brand so far.
>>721 Maybe because there is a much higher cell phone usage in Japan than the rest of the world. So they notice what an badly made, overpriced cell phone it really is?
Looking at stuff like the Panasonic P905i which is readily available in Japan it's hard to see why they would settle for a piece of shit like the iPhone.
>>714 You are right. Japanese people are thin so in most cases they don't need to do exercise to get slim.
But some people sure go to the gym. In case of men in their twenties, the biggest reason to go to gym is to have great build. They know muscles appeal to some women. They are already slim but got to the gym to get their muscles bulked up.
In case of women in their twenties, the biggest reason is to get slim. Despite the reason, they look slim on American standard. They are too much worried about their figure. Going to gym sounds cool so for some women, that can be a kind of like fashion statement. This is the case with men, too.
The Japanese society is aging rapidly and some health concious elderly people go to gym to prevent themselves from being bed ridden in the future. Private gym companies know this trend and cater to these people.
Gym not only provides training machines such as treadmill but also provide various exercise program ranging from Aerobics classes to hip hop dance classes. Some people take these class that can work for shedding some pounds, rataher, kilos.
>>714 You are right. Japanese people are thin so in most cases they don't need to do exercise to get slim.
But some people sure go to the gym. In case of men in their twenties, the biggest reason to go to gym is to have great build. They know muscles appeal to some women. They are already slim but got to the gym to get their muscles bulked up.
In case of women in their twenties, the biggest reason is to get slim. Despite the reason, they look slim on American standard. They are too much worried about their figure. Going to gym sounds cool so for some women, that can be a kind of like fashion statement. This is the case with men, too.
The Japanese society is aging rapidly and some health concious elderly people go to gym to prevent themselves from being bed ridden in the future. Private gym companies know this trend and cater to these people.
Gym not only provides training machines such as treadmill but also provide various exercise program ranging from Aerobics classes to hip hop dance classes. Some people take these class that can work for shedding some pounds, rataher, kilos.
>>714 Not super obese like some Ameriacns are but there are lots of fat out-of-shape people in Japan too. Japanese people are smaller and take up less space so they are just not as noticeable as big fat Ameicans. Also there are many seemingly thin people who have some very ugly fat hanging around their bellies. They just hide it with clothes.
I'm not a big fan of cell phones nor smart phones, so I might not be in a position to say anything about them, but as I see it, I don't think it's good for SoftBank to sell iPhone for nothing, a) they charge more money monthly than in the case they sell the gadget at a proper price, and you have to pay extra money if you want to stop using one within 2 years. b) the no-price-for-sale campaign that SoftBank took would impair the image of iPhone, like no one wants to have one unless it's sold for free. I'd call it "dumping".. c) SoftBank has been faced with manegerial problems, say, simply the company has huge debts, and CDS (which indicates how good/bad a situation companies are in) are quite high - more than 1,700 points the last time I checked. Even though many Japanese people without interest in business, such as students and housewives, wouldn't believe that since SoftBank has been putting out a huge amount of advertisment in Japan. "What if the company will go bankrupt? What will become of my iPhone!?" would be a concern for people who know the truth about SoftBank.
And these are things that's just come out of my head, and that's just me.
Native speakers, could you give me a comment? Anyone has nort made any mistakes. Is this way of saying incorrect? To me, it sounds very clear and precise. No one has made any mistakes. Must this way of saying be done?
Native speakers, could you give me a comment? Anyone has not made any mistakes. Is this way of saying incorrect? To me, it sounds very clear and precise. No one has made any mistakes. Must this way of saying be done?
>>729 Anyway, what is your point?(笑) Scattering so many unnecessary stuff wouldd not help the reader grasp the big picture. You call for SoftBank to terminate its effective subsidy campaigne or free moble phone marketing gimmick? Everyone with good judgemnt or sanity doesn't belive the mobile carrier will go under anytime soon, at least a decade. Were that happen, until then your favorite device would become garbage. Note CDS, or credit default swap, is kind of insuarance hedging against potential insolvency, which does not indicate a company's current financial standing, rather the investors' risk-averseness in a seized up market characterized by extraordinary fears to risks unduly.
>>732 >Everyone with good judgemnt or sanity doesn't belive the mobile carrier will go under anytime soon, at least a decade. >Were that happen, until then your favorite device would become garbage. Should I link you to an economy article? I think you can find many in a minite if you search on the net.
>>733 Haha, your the ranks of those insane with no sensible judgement. Obviously, you are a non-native speaker with a poorly educated background. I canot help but laugh at seeing "an economy article." Show me the evidence, if you could present it in the first place.(笑)低能は困っちゃうなww
>>738 He's only doing the right thing, not just for the majority of highly educated foreigners in Tokyo. Hopefully, the event will bring out its significance in the civil rights struggle under the light of the moon, and someday the culturally backward people of Japan can foolly appreciate the real liberty that deserves to stand for all.
Japanese or non-Japanese isn't a problem. Those who think it's Ok to take advantage of good ,though silent, people should have their share of humiliation and punishment. It's not because like RoninDave said he was gaijin, but because the like of him is a nusance. It's a given that those who think they can get away with it should be in costody (Japanese or not).
I'd punch them in the face if I could get away with it. Those bunch of losers don't have balls to do the same stupid thing in their own countries and are acting like retards in Japan. The foreign assholes should be ashamed of themselves.
>>742 Actually what they did is fairly common where they come from. It happens every so often where I am. So it's slightly bemusing to see people getting so worked up about this stuff. Far from being 'losers' the kind of people who do stuff like this here are the facebook users, the cool crowd. As far as I can gather the point of doing this is to blur the boundaries of modern life and it's daily routine and bring some kind of special experiance to people. But I guess all those stereotypes of the Japanese being foolishly uptight and full of repressed seething anger were right after all.
>>743 >Actually what they did is fairly common where they come from. It happens every so often where I am.
Don't know where you're from, but your home town must be shitty. Sorry, but I didn't know you live in a cesspool. Please do not assume other places are as fucked up as your seedy den.
>>745 I'm from Britain, a country famous in the West for it's uptight values and empahasis on politeness in social situations. Even so I guess it really is a 'seedy den' in comparison to your excessively regulated society where sneezing on a train would require you to commit seppaku. The thing is our country doesn't ahppen to be the main exporter of the most twisted and disturbing pornography in the world. I guess if you suppress people's emotions to that extent it's no surprise. In comparison letting a few idiots wear costumes on the train once a year is a small price to pay.
>>748 Thank you very much for enjoying our pornography every single day & night! In return, we'd appreciate it if you morons could be a little more mature and considerate of others on public transportations.
And if you are too poor to buy Kleenex, you can receive a dozen on the busy streets for free.
Just FYI, 'seppaku' means 'urgent or imminent,' which is usually used in a term 'seppaku ryuzan' which means 'threatened abortion.'
>>749 What do you mean 'YOU morons'? These gaijins are all Americans, that would be like assuming all people from the far East are Koreans. ... Hello Korean dog eaters, your pornography is terrible, it is all censored so no erotic parts are even shown and the bits I do see make me sick to my stomach. Maybe we will be considerate of others on trains when you are considerate enough of women to not stick eels in their vaginas. Just FYI, in English seppaku means "ritual suicide", last time I checked we were speaking in English in this thread, no?
>>750 I google, and unfortunately, Debito Arudou is from Calif.
Well I think where-ever one comes from, he should respect other cultures, and in our case, we try to keep order of the society. But then, the sad Akihabara incident happened and Finance minister is alcoholic....... We are aware that we have enough problems, it's just that we don't need more problems coming in from overseas.
>>751 Oh, you meant 'Seppuku,' not 'Seppaku,' I see. If you are not sure about a foreign word, I adivise that you refrain from using it, otherwise, you will just end up making a fool yourself.
>>751 Better yet, if you want to show off your knowledge about Japanese, you'd want say 'Harakiri' instead of 'Seppuku.' But I can imaging you'll be misspelling it as 'Harikiri' which means 'be in high spirits.' HAHA!
>>752 Thanks. For some reason, I thought he was from the U.K.. Anyway, I think this lady from Britain is just hungry or very upset about something else, then has decided to take it out on random people here. I hope she feels better.
>>753 >end up making a fool yourself. >end up making a fool OF yourself. Can I introduce you to another foreign word? It is called 'irony'. As for the finance minister thing, I would much rather our finance directors were drunk. It might be an acceptable excuse for having lost such gargantuan amounts of our money. Bastards. With respect to keeping "order of society" I remember reading that this is something Hiroyuki is famously against. When you are posting on his website, shouldn't you respect his culture?
Is a party like that which was held by the foreigners on the train something which is unusual in Japan? Parties like that are commonplace in America and western Europe (although not usually on a train). I guess they decided to have that party on the train because Japan is famous for their trains. If the Japanese aren't used to parties like that, I can see why they would be frustrated. In my opinion, they should lighten up a bit. Those people weren't harming anyone.
>>757 Are you sure you guys have those types of parties in public places?
I could careless if people have any party in their private property, but in public places, I think they should think of other people who have nothing to do with it.
A library is supposed to be a quiet, almost reverential, place, of course no-one throws a party there. Trains however are, by their nature, busy, noisy and crowded. Still if you treat your trains like libraries then is there any public place you are allowed to relax in? Probably not, since everyone is thinking of others no-one is ever allowed to relax for a second. Keep pretending you're robots and maybe you'll grow metal skin.
>>762 Our trains are crowded, but quiet. People are not even allowed to talk on a mobile phone on the trains, because one tends to ignore the surroundings and starts to speak very loud. (No mistake, this rule has not been imposed by the authorities, but there were many complaints about loud phone-conversations on the trains, which lead the establishment of the rule).
And I don't think puplic places are for you to relax. You go home and relax, no?
>>764 The very idea of rows of passengers sitting in silence, not permitted to speak to the friend next to them seems absurd. Yes, I would be more relaxed at home but I see now why NEETs prefer to stay at home rather than march around in silence outside, pretnending to be robots. Travelling around with friends, visiting shops, chatting, eating, relaxing, these things are fun. To think of not being permitted to do this merely because someone else may be slightly irritated, well they can go hang. Life isn't enjoyable at all if you can only relax with no-one else around, honest human interaction is as essential to happiness as breathing. Maybe you wouldn't have one of the highest suicide rates in the world if you didn't believe social order was vastly more important than happiness.
>>765 You really must be very hungry. Please read it carefully. We ARE allowed to talk to the friends sitting next to each other, just that talking on a mobile phone on the trains is not allowed due to the reasons mentioned above.
>>766 I must have been thrown by the hyperbolic analogy to libraries, because, of course, no-on eis permitted to make a noise in a library. How uncouth of you to fill the train with your disrespectful nattering, truely you live in a seedy den.
Restricting talking though in a public area? I don't think an idea like that would ever fly in America. Japan sure is a different place if everyone just accepted a prohibition like that without a fuss.
>>773 It was not that we "accepted it," but rather, general public "demanded" the rule to be implemented. I undersatnd it sounds a bit going too far for you, but if you are on the train every day, I think you will understand how we feel about the very loud conversations.
>>781 actually i found a higher quality vid on youtube and can now understand her more. "i would sacrifice myself, god how i can still pray" i think this
Heyo I see we're debating the Yamanote party train again. I've taken trains in Japan and I take the train regulary here in the States. I think most people in metropolitan cities here would be just as annoyed about a party spontaneously starting in their train. Also I remember conversing all the time on the train in Japan so the notion of Japanse people being a robot society is bullshit. Anyways, I think a good solution to the party train controversy would be for JR to rent a car out to these people and then everyone wins.
Last night I went to a Korean BBQ restaurant and had some delicious kimchi. I know you're all jealous.
Oops > for JR to rent a car out to these people and then everyone wins.
This is least likely to work, because 1) none of them could read a Japanese sign that guides them into the car. 2) they would jump on the claim that this is an unconstitutional segregation procedure by JR. 3) it would take away the original fun of harrassing the Japanese passengers.
I had to refute your idea because you made me mad jealous.
>>411>>412 I went to Cornell, but I'm not sure I would still get in if I applied now. So many schools have become so competitive in recent years. I loved it there, but it isn't for everybody. It rains a lot, and the winter is really long. Best of luck to both of you in your college search! BTW, even though the Greek scene is huge, it is easily avoided. The campus is very diverse--you will find your own niche.
The Yamanote train idiots again. I'm so sick of them, and they aren't even from around here. That kind of nonsense would NOT fly in Boston. People are quiet on the trains here, usually. Exceptions are the drunk Red Sox fans after a home game, and holidays like New Years Eve or the 4th of July.
I missed my Japanese lessons so much, I started again with a new teacher. This is Teacher #4. We're back at a Starbucks, but a different one. My new teacher is an artist. Poor musicians and artists forced to get by teaching Japanese lessons on the side to housewives and anime otakus. I guess it's better than working at McDonalds though.
What does it mean? I think I've heard it though. Is it a kind of club in uni whose names are alpha, Zeta and such Greek alphabet?
How do you find a Japanese teacher? On the Net? I'd recommend you find a college student whose major is linguistic or something rather than an artist. Being able to speak Japanese doesn't mean he/she's a good teacher.
>>792 You must be proud because Cornell has many notable alumni there! Among others, George Licoln Rockwell must be your best hero.
Oooops! Sorry. It's my mistake. George Lincoln Rockwell was from Brown University, not from your alma mater. I didn't mean to insult Geroge Lincoln Rockwell. He was the man to come around every 100 years. And his glorious cause still lives in your heart. Continue the fight! Good luck!
>>793 It means he is not clever enough to get into a real college. UFOs fall on the USA all the time because they realise people the are too stupid to notice
>>793 The Greek scene refers to fraternities and sororities. Due to the shortage of dorm rooms, many people join them just to get a cheap place to live (the alternative being a crummy apartment in Collegetown). Yes, these are the groups with the Greek letters. Each house has its own atmosphere. If you're familiar with the old movie "Animal House", you'll know what I'm talking about.
I found my Japanese teacher through Craigslist, but not to fear, she's taught several students, plus we are working from a textbook. Her teaching ability is more than adequate--remember, I'm only a beginner, so we're still doing very basic stuff.
Ann Coulter! I knew of her. I know she made a such comment that the jews would be "perfect" if they became christian. Also she made a very insulting and provocative comment about japanese.
But sorry, she is far behind Commander George Lincoln Rockwell. She is another bogus conservative or neocon.
>>792 The drunk 阪神 fans are also formidably noisy on their way home from the 甲子園 ballpark. They literally never cease singing 六甲颪 at the top of their voices on the trains after a victorious game.
>>805 You forget how old I am. I went to college before the tuition rose into the stratosphere. I had a little scholarship money and some student loans. I worked 15-20 hours per week during school to pay for my living expenses (which I kept as low as I could). Since I worked in the dining halls, I got free food for some meals. I bought used textbooks when I could. I didn't have anything fancy or expensive, and I lived in crummy apartments. That was how I did it. But with the price of tuition so high now, I'm not sure if I could afford the same college without going deeply into debt.
Bill White(national socialist)>Kevin Alfred Strom(white separatist and cosmothiest) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>George Lincoln Rockwell(hollywood nazi)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ann Coulter(white christian right)
Hey 米人!It's been awhile. I visited Cornell and it's a great school that I think would be a good choice for me. I'm just on pins and needles now with a month to go to hear from the rest of my colleges.
Oh what about Bill Nye! He's by far the coolest Cornell alum. Although it is hilarious that Coulter and Olbermann are products of the same school lol.
人 (__) (__) ( __ ) ( ´-∀-) < Well, Obama gave some of the US's land to China as (つ旦⊂) collateral. If the US cannot pay back a loan they owe と_)_) to China, the US belongs to China.
What do you think of Anderson Cooper's accent and speech pattern?
I'm trying to acquire various English accents such as RP and general American. What I'm doing is mimicking native speakers of the dialects I want to learn. I have several friends in England, and I think I'm getting better at British accents by imitating them. But I'm planing on living in the US for a while and decided to learn some American accent so that I can make Americans laugh by switching English and American back and forth.
So I'm looking for a "role model" to mimic an American dialect. Unfortunately, my American friend has a unique voice and it's really hard to imitate. Besides, he speaks a little too slow for me; I'm a fast talker no matter if it's Japanese or English.
I've been looking around on the internet, and I thought Anderson would be the best model because 1)he speaks fast, and not too fast, 2)he's professional when it comes to speaking, 3)there are lots of videos I can exploit, 4)I'm male too; it'd be awkward to imitate a female.
The thing is, I found tons of derogatory comments that he's gay. Does he sound gay? Or is it just another stupid gossip? I'm afraid I might sound gay if I mimic him.
I'm glad if you can let me know what you think of him and recommend to me some good speakers.
I forgot to mention I'm looking for a good speaker of a "rhotic" American dialect. But come to think of it, it might be interesting to learn non-rhotic accents like the typical NYC accent. I think it'd be nice if it contrasts with the dialect spoken in London.
>>818 AC has a very distinct speech pattern. my brother and i noticed this pattern is also in his writings, such as in his book. he does not sound gay though. the way he talks almost reminds me of the way one tells a childrens' bedtime story because of the way he describes things by putting emotion into them. but not in anyway childish sounding. he is a very good public speaker. my brother and i agree that he speaks slowly. my father and i have always liked the way steve jobs speaks and i always try to watch his speeches and keynotes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1R-jKKp3NA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUeM6FBInfw i try to model myself off his keynote speech presentation style. after i started doing this i started being told that i was a fairly good public speaker, so i guess it worked! I also think glenn beck and rush limbaugh are good public speakers. they tend to put a more casual style into their public speaking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNS8IY_Td14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qtvtBGWgBc cooper and the examples i gave are more so some of my favorite public speakers. they are trying to present information and thus talk in such a manner. for everyday speech you might not want model yourself off a public speaking style. maybe start skyping people for that?
>>821 With a good command of Japanese, people would notice there are actually many humorous/informative posts in 2ch that are worth reading for fun. But I think those who don't read the language would be happier since there are as many shitty ones that are worse than wasting time in the long run.
>>822 Thank you. Your reply was really helpful and reminded me of Steve Jobs. Coincidentally I always use Keynote when I give a talk, and I like his speech too.
Glenn Beck seems to be another good speaker. I don't often watch FOXNews, but actually I prefer informal styles to traditional Japanese speech patterns.
I think I'll try to imitate AC first and then incorporate a bit of other styles like Glenn Beck's talk. Steve Jobs's speech pattern is very attractive, but I think it works better when you're talking about something as attractive. Sometimes I have to give a talk about boring stuff that I don't like either. In short, I have to fake enthusiasm...
I think the AC style with a dash of other informal styles would be best to put emotion and avoid a noxious reek of fake enthusiasm.
I know Rush Limbaugh. The people who live in Tokyo or Kanagawa can listen his radio program in American Forces Network. Today he talked about education and criticized Obama.
Paul Harvey must have been a good guy. I assumed without any substantial reason that he was a liberal commentator. It seems that he was not that simple guy. Notable conservative columnist Hal Turner deplored his death, which means Paul Harvey is an reliable and truthful man. Paul Harvey was a regular commentator on FEN or AFN as well as the conservative guy mentioned earlier in this thread. The End of the Story was broadcasted at intervals. I couldn't follow the story and didnot focus on listening at the time.
>There were 32,000 law-abiding, honest and trustworthy Koreans living in this country >and it was important not to tarnish the reputation of a large group of foreign students >who were coming to study in New Zealand, or indeed the Korean people, because of >the actions of one person, he said.
The news reminds me of what happened in Versinia Tech.. Not to generalize, but it seems lots of Korean people suffer from mental illness called hwabyeong.
>Hwabyeong, literally "anger illness" or "fire illness”, is a Korean term for a kind of culture-bound >somatization disorder, a mental illness. It manifests as one or more of a wide range of physical symptoms, >in response to emotional disturbance, such as stress from troublesome interpersonal relationships or life crises.
>>835 Which channel are you talking about? If it's CNN, sure I watch AC360. But it's not a news program per se. Anderson Cooper is not so much a reporter or an anchor as a pop star. I'd buy porn staring Anderson and Erica. I don't give a crap about U.S.
I guess it's you that are brainwashed. Not everyone is watching news media for news.
>>841 Exactly. I was only referring to the damn radio station which was mentioned as "AFN". In other words, I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU. ok? I'm going to sleep. Good night.
>>842 When you speak to a specific group of people, please say so clearly. It might just be me, but your post sounded to me as if you were referring to users of this thread in general and claiming that quite a few people are listening to news media biased in favor of the US.
I also recommend you choose your word carefully. In my humble opinion, swearing and caps lock only make you look small. What if I said, "Shut your filthy mouth when you're too retarded to make yourself understood."? Certainly this simple line succinctly describes what you are, but it is not productive or helpful and only creates an hostile atmosphere.
As someone mentioned AFK before, I don't listen to it. But about a half year ago I bought a CD of AFK news as a way of learning English. If I remember correctly, it costed about 1000 yen.
>>851 In that case, you should learn proper pedo grammar. "I want to be a loli" is 幼女になりてぇ, where 幼女 (loli) is pronounced "yo jaw" and てぇ is a stretched-out て (You should stretch the vowel part of て as long as possible to best express your insatiable lust).
Apparently the Ozawa, head of the Democratic Party, screwed up big time. There's no chance for them to win the next election any more. We're headed straight for hell. It's not that the Democratic Party is better than the fucked up current ruling party, but we need a party that is as influential to balance the Government. We may have to flee this country before it's too late.
What Ozawa said in the press conferenss didn't make sense. He said he made public his earnings and expencises and so there was no problem on his part, but the important thing here is whether he asked and accepted bribery, and he's suspected he did so. Is he an idiot?? I was at a loss for words when I heard his excuses.
>>861 Probably he meant everyone knew he was clear because he didn't hide anything.
What really makes no sense whatsoever to me is this line: "It's a conspiracy! Why did they arrest my aides right before the election?! The ruling party is abusing its power!!"
>>862 >because he didn't hide anything Shit! He wasn't telling the truth! lol Though, of course, I understand what he had in mind. Why could he say all that he hided?
>>860 >>861 I think Koike Yuriko is aiming at post Aso. I cannot be patient if Yuriko Koike wil be become the Prime Minister. Though I don't opposite to becoming of woman the Prime Minister, I hate Koike Yuriko, Sato Yukari, and Katayama Stsuki, and vomit with Yuriko Koike I'm able to be patient Diet member today is Seiko Noda. I want TV Asahi announcer Osita Yoko or South Korea figure skater Kim Yuna to become a Prime Minister if possible.
>>868 Since you asked native speakers that, I only correct your interrogative sentence there: "in the meanings" should read "in meaning."
Oh, and sop bullshitting beginners on 2ch. You're annoying.
Ah, one more thing. You'll never speak a foreign language fluently. Your learning method and attitude are failure-prone. No matter how many years you may spend, you'll come out sounding like a broken machine translator.
I have noticed because I touch my penis just now. It is a thing that my penis is as soft as "Konnyaku". However, my penis gradually becomes hard while rubbing it, It's very mysterious. Is there a guy who is interpretable of this mystery?
>>868 The first sentence just means you want your shirt to be washed. The second sentence implies that you want the person you're talking with to do it.
To give some examples:
Example 1: A. I want my shirt to be washed. B. I see, good luck with that.
Example 2: A. I want my shirt washed. B. I'm not your servant!
Of course, context and tone of voice are important as well, but that's the immediate impression the words give.
>>877 Do you really think so? On second thought, you shouldn't. No, I don't mean to blame you. It's just like I mean to say, ’Hey, are you kidding?’or something. That totally makes sense, doesn't it?
Why, I knew you wouldn't admit it. Really!!! I knew it from the begining. The way you pulled it through... It seemed like you were Encouraging us to do the same thing as you did, didn't it?
Very thought of it made me sick. You know what I mean? Eeeeek, you shouldn't have tried to make us do anything.. Right minded people would agree with me. That's why I'm replying to you. Got it? It's all because you made a typo. Corresponding with you like this would be meaningful to the rest of us, as we can get directly across to you like I do, you know. So please don't take me too lightly. You'll be sorry if you do. Yes, of that I'm sure. See you!
Do everyone know "i ta sya"? These are cars painted the characters in anime, video game, and internet. Below is a example. http://mainichi.jp/enta/mantan/graph/anime/20071009/1.html If I try to translate this word, "a painful car" or "a shameful car" will be fit
I'm worried about that my penis is unruly. It's very rascal! Because my penis is usually soft as "Konnyaku", my penis gradually becomes hard while rubbing it. What do you think of this phenomenon? I would like to pick my penis up the thumb and the forefinger and draw it through my fingers. Of corse, I do it while seeing Sekimori Hinowa and Osita Yoko and Kim Yu-na's photographs.
also, on a lot of japanese shows, they show in a little box in the corner the host of the show. i suppose they do that so that the audience can see his or her reaction. that is another thing which is unique to Japan. --------------------- Yeah! I hate it! I try to look away from them or change the channel. Irritating. TBS sunday morning is typcal of this kind of show. Celebs are reactioning how they do look on tv screen . I think this trend is only a decade old or so. Not a long tradition of japanese tv program. I guess just letting calebs chatting each other is very easy and conveninet job for tv producers. In general japanese tv shows lacks creativity. Just keeping the masses fool and addicted with foolishness is one of their techniques to exploit the masses.
Besides, NHK doesn't have such a TV program that plays a box in the coner, as long as I know. NHK is a public broadcast station and a bit smarter than private broadcast stations.
Yamucha (DB/DBZ), Abel(Dragon Quest), Seiya (saint seiya), etc... ------------------ Hey, don't forget hyuma hoshi(star of the giants!) which sold his name first. hyuma hoshi and amuro are his most famous roles. hyuma hoshi has the same mentality with amuro, weak and whining and easily overconfident at times.
Hmm, the same thing happened when Mao Asada won a figure skate competition... Not again... The Korean people must be provoked by VANK, or the infamous cyber terror organization financed by the Korean government. For the record, in the past, VANK encouraged Korean people to conduct cyberterror against FIFA's official website and resulted in Korean IPs being blocked from the site.
>>899 Less than 0.0001% of young Japanese and Koreans hate each other in real life. And 99.99876% of people find those hatred on the internet ridiculous and ludicrous. I vouch for the veracity of this statistics.
>>899 I'd be happy if they didn't attack after the baseball match, though.
I've never heard Russian people conducted cyber terror after America's representative beat theirs in a figure skate competition. Or is it just because I happened to miss such news?
I don't understand why such conduct needs to be done.
Thanks to spending a lot of time here, I've absorbed many knowledge and could pass the entrance exam. I decided to learn Chinese as a second foreign language. I'm looking forward to it.
>>899 I don't know, but these videos explain how extreme Korean people go in order to make others feel sick. But I think it's lucky American people don't have to deal with Korea in a direct way.
I'm sure the next target Korea is aiming for will be England, cause Korea says "Economist" has been spreading a vicious rumour about Korean economy, no matter how true the data analysis was. Beware, England.
This morning, I recieved your letter [ [ which ] you had called me yesterday and said [ that you had had sent the day before ].
This is [ what I wrote [ to show an example [ where tenses can be shown of an older past and even of a still older past ]. I think this kind of doubled past is logical as much as mathmatics is. Are there cases where this kind of doubled past tense is used?
...I have to say, this is pretty infuriating, we basically guarantee that whoever attacks South Korea can expect total war. Let South Korea pay for its own defense, its time we left.
>>906 I read the page and found the whole argument silly. The English is awkward but it sounds like the author is whining about how Koreans are "stealing" Japanese traditions. It comes across as cultural supremacy which is truly an ignorant position to take.
>>923 I don't have anything against you and I don't think Japanese traditional cultures are supreme, and it's quite alright what position you take about it, but the fact remains Korean people tend to say all good things are invented in Korea. If you aren't ignorant, it's easy to guess that's not true, but should you be brainwashed, you might think it was true. Again, I don't think all Japanese traditional cultures are interesting or anything, but I'm sick of hearing this "every good thing comes from Korea" theory. That's just it.
If you want to feel like a hero fighting a good cause for your philosophical supremacy against Japanese nationalism or something, then feel free to do it. It'd only expose your ignorance on the issue and perhaps, if lucky, could lead to self-realization as to why a country is hated around the world, however.
Maybe it's because I'm not exposed to a similar rivalry that I think the whole controversy is silly. I'm not Japanese but as an outsider such problems seem trivial. That website makes it seem like this is a matter of dire importance when I dont believe it is (correct me if I'm wrong). I think it's a symptom of a historical relationship which hasn't always been amicable. In this day however Japan and South Korea seem to be stalwart allies and arguing that Koreans are in the wrong seems to be a waste of time. Sorry, I'm probably the least qualified to post about this and therefore you could say I'm ignorant. I'd love to hear more opinions, 教えって下さい。
>>931 Actually those hatreds are extremely rare in real life. It's like believing anime is super popular in the US and Americans are all weeaboos just by browsing 4chan. The majority of the Japanese and the Koreans regard the conflict on the internet as ridiculous. I think less than one in 1000 Japanese would dislike Koreans for no apparent reason. In fact, quite a few Korean singers, actors and whatnot are popular in Japan and vice versa.
>>925 I've never heard of America saying all good things were invented by America, though.
>>931 It's surely a complicated matter to explain. It's more of a matter of what is true and what's not. Do you remember the gymnastic team competition of the Beijin Olympics? America (and other countries as well) suspected some Chinese representatives lied about their age because she looked too young and their official profiles (left on the internet) said they were too young to participate in practice, but China said it was America that lied and, after that, proved they were old enough. But some skepticism lingered on (since Chinese communist party could manupulate its records freely). What do you think was right? I think America was right in speaking up, based on the profiles. The point I want to make is that I think those things that someone says belong to themselves don't belong to themselves just because their voice is louder than others.
And if I'm not mistaken, Japan and South Korea don't have a security treaty like Japan and America does, as a matter of fact. I can't possibly get myself across very well in English (so please excuse me), but South Korea asked America to think Japan is an enemy several years ago and according to one of their foregine policies, named Korean national defense program 2020 or something, Korea viewes Japan as enemy. I was like "huh? Oh... I knew it." when I heard about it. They know Japan would never attack them but the government uses Japan to control its citizens. And they know America would never attack them and so some citizens use America to have influence upon the government.
I seriously do not think the website is worth a discussion unless you are anthropologically interested in those trivium on a factual level. As for the rivalry between the two nations, though only limited to the postwar peroid, Korea has been benefiting from it more than Japan has, as it is always good to have some sort of goal to aim at. They have been implementing that sort of patriotic campaign as a national virtue to develop their country and catch up with Japan, especially in economy, but as a side effect, it has also left an excessive amount of nationalism in their mentality. And as a result, some (very few I wish) Japanese have become somewhat reactive to the distorted facts and accusations, which in turn looks like such a big deal on the internet. Personally, the only thing I wonder is how many hundred apologies for the war it will take for the Japanese government to compensate their feelings.
>>932 One of the Korean newspapers said the poll showed Korean people dislikes Japan. I forgot exactly what parcentage points, though. Probably over 70? Do you still say Korean like Japan?
And I have never seen anyone in my life who says they like Korean actors probably because their fanbase is an elderly women like over 60...
But yeah, you're right. Most Japanese people don't give a damn about Korea. It's like believing Korean singers are super popular in Japan and Japanese are all Korean Wave fans just by reading Korean papers.
>>935 >One of the Korean newspapers said the poll showed Korean people dislikes Japan.
Are you sure the newspaper isn't a tabloid? I doubt it's a reputable newspaper. Isn't it an online poll? I guess so. Did you read it in Korean? If not, are you sure translation is done faithfully? I bet you read it in Japanese or in English. Do you think what one particular newspaper is saying is reliable? I would take it cum grano salis. Have you ever been to Korea? I did, and people over there were all friendly.
>I have never seen anyone in my life who says they like Korean actors
I love Boa and I believe there are tons of her fans in Japan. Well, she's a singer, not an actress, but whatever.
>>940 I know w is the Japanese equivalent of lol, but what does プゲラ mean? I think I've seen this several times on 2ch (and only on 2ch) but always failed to understand what it means. Is this an emoticon or something? And how can I type the tiny version of kana? I just ctl+c and v'd his post.
Kagari's calf is fat, has tightened the muscle, and is hard. On the other hand, Sekimori Hinowa's calf is thin and the muscle is also soft. But I think that Sekimori Hinowa's calf wins if it tears up Sekimori Hinowa's calf and Kagari's calf each other. I've masturbated a little while ago, making a snack of such a spectacle. That feeling has been good!!
>>941 It's echo-words, when a Japanese people is laughing. They can be used independently and straight. For example "pu" or "gela gela". And I don't know closely how to convert, but usually there is a system in PC that Japanese use. There is a "Microsoft IME standard Japanese convertment system" or something in my PC.
I also like a female figure skater Kim Yu-na in South Korea. I think frequently which is strong her thigh or Kimberley Mizener's thigh in U.S.. If Kimu Yu-na's soft & thin thigh was stronger than Kimberley Mizener's fat & firm thigh , I would be glad. I would be glad as my penis grow up to 100 meters!!
>>920 I mean that there's a letter I received, and that the other person called me on the telephone yesterday, and that the person sent the letter the day before yesterday.
I mean that yesterday, the other person called me and told me he'd sent the letter on the day before that day.
recieved is this morning, called is yesterday, sent is the day before yesterday, recieve being past, called being had pp, sent being had had pp Isn't this logical?
May I josh about masturbation any longer? Well, Mizuno Yuko is my onapet that I sometimes use for my masturbation. I masturbate to this Mizuno Yuko while imagining the scene where Yukina Kinoshita, Yamamoto Mona, and Suzanne attack her all together. I feel a sexual desire intensily, because I want Mizuno Yuko to defeat them by all possible means. It is pleasure of growing my penis just up to about 100 meters.
>>920 Answer meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, pleeeeeeeeeeease Answer me for heaven's sake Answer me cus I'm serious. Doooooooooooooooooooooooooon't be afraid. I'm not crazy. I mean I just seek truth.
recieved is this morning, called is yesterday, sent is the day before yesterday, recieve being past, called being had pp, sent being had had pp Isn't this logical?
Ha ha, I'm not sure what you're asking at all. I'm a bit stupid in the morning... Let me think. I'm pretty sure you can't just add an increasing number of "hads"--you're confused by the occasional occurrence of "had had" in the English language, right? I hate "had had". When it's being used, it's referring to a previous case in which a person "had" something. Right now, I have an apple. Yesterday, I had an orange. The day before that, I had a lemon. ...wait, that doesn't give an example at all! Let me think. In the morning, he had a fever. He had had those sorts of little fevers all his life, so it was no big deal. Something like that, maybe? When you're talking about something in the past tense to begin with--for example, how most English fiction is written. For as for your letter: I received your letter today. You called me to tell me about your letter yesterday. You sent your letter out the day before. I received the letter that you told me about.
...ahhhhh, English is confusing! I know I'm probably doing something wrong here, but I can't find it! I'm confused! I'm terribly confused!
For as for my letter: I received your letter today. You called me to tell me about your letter yesterday. You sent your letter out the day before. I received the letter [ which you had told me [ that you had had sent the day before ] ].
...ahhhhh, you are amusing! I know you're probably saying it in a simple way. But you can find it! You are making the tense simple. You're amusing! You're terribly worth hugging amusing!
To the Japanese speakers here: What kind of job do you have? What level of schooling? I understand there are NEET's here, that is OK. Tell the last job or whatever you had then.
Any English speaker would know what you are trying to say, but I'm not sure if that is perfectly grammatically correct. The book of English grammar is like, 2000 pages long in TINY print. If I was trying to say the same thing, I would just say, "I received the letter which you were telling me you had sent the day before."
Still not sure what those brackets are supposed to mean.
>>956 Am a researcher at a governmental institute. Have a Ph.D. Post some random crap once in a while, but usually I'm just a lurker. Don't know why I'm browsing 2ch, but I guess geeks tend to flock to the internet. I'm no exception.
I speak and write extremely formal English everyday in real life, which is frustrating. I don't give a shit about who vs. whom and which vs. that, but curmudgeons (aka editors) always correct my manuscripts. Procrastination is my friend and deadlines are my archenemy.
>>963 Don't be put off by that stupid stuff; we usually have great discussions. >>962 reminded me of this, I've been really impressed with all the recent posts' English. Well done 日本人! Beginners should not be afraid to write however so please join us.
So I have more projects coming up in Japanese class. One is to make a poster about a Japanese city. Tokyo, Osaka, Nara, Yokohama, Kyoto, Nagasaki, Sapporo, Kobe, and Nagoya have already been claimed by my classmates. Any suggestions? I was thinking of Hiroshima unless you can come up with something better. The other project is an oral presentation so I'll probably post some grammatical questions closer to the due date.
Agrh! I just remembered I have a kanji quiz Friday... Oh man and the test for college credit Japanese is coming up as well...
Are you a Japanese student? because im studying for be a teacher. im not from USA, English isnt even my native language but i always loved foreign languages, specially Japanese. Im from Chile in South America.
>>965 Oh man I'm gonna botch this up: without a person who can see through a lie with a lie using a BBS is difficult. How close was I? >>967 Hi there! I'm studying Japanese in high school and I'm hopin to continue learning it through college, maybe as a minor. Why don't you tell us about Chile? We really only get posters from English speaking countries.
>>964 My research interests include theoretical computer science and related applied mathematics such as probability theory. Part of my doctoral dissertation was published in IEEE transactions of Information Theory (a long time ago though), so maybe you can say my main research area is information theory. But I also work on various fields like other scientists who have a math background.
If my memory serves me, some Japanese and Americans in this thread also said they studied computer science. I guess *chans attract nerds and basement dwellers (or NEETs if you will).
Ugh! I don't want to be caught browsing on 2ch on my working PC, but typing on the phone is a pain in the ass. I'll be back when I get home. See you then.
The videos this N. Korean propagandist posts are fucking hilarious. I bet he is the only guy in that whole country with internet access to youtube. Watching his videos makes me feel like I am living during the Cold War or something.
>>968 Chile is an awesome country, Most people thinks that South America is some type of endless jungle but this is absolutelty the same as all the world. Chile is beautiful, we got glacials, forest, cities and deserts, all in one country.
By the way, I cant deny that i entry to the Japanese culture thanks to the Otaku world when i was more young. Here in Chile Anime is really huge and there are conventions and events. On December JAM PROJECT was here on a concert, and before that J-Rock artist like Miyavi, Toshi (fron X-Japan) and other groups also comes to my country.
>>971 Speaking of North Korea, I wonder if the country really launch a ballistic missle. Did that make news in America? In Japan, most TV news hasn't broadcast it, though we can read the news in the paper. N.K insists that it's just a satelite and if America or Japan shoots it down then they will wage war against us. Think they are just trying to threat us, though.
>>974 Great. I've picked up a ton of colloquial English from English dubs of Japanese anime. I'm jealous of you; you can learn natural Japanese from raws. I have to resort to translations.
>>976 colloquial English? so English isnt your native language? And yeah, i just passed my first year in Japanese language and at least i can now read Hiragana and Katakana. Kanji is really hard but im trying my best, i can read at least 60/70 for now.
By the way, here in Latin America a lot of Anime came here on original status, without USA censors or editions like Pokemon. Also i find Latin American dubs much better than English dubs.
>>978 There are some Anime that is over-exaggerated, yeah, i cant understand a word in Lucky Star.
>>978 Are you talking to me (>>976)? If so, I find some translations awkward, especially when the line is heavily ADRed and/or hard to translate. English dubs are translation, after all. It can't be helped.
>I don't think raw anime is always natural. Better than hollywood movies and american sitcoms. Certainly anime and manga are not very good materials if you're stupid enough to not able to understand the difference between cartoonish lingo and normal speech. But more than 90% of spoken language in your average anime is the same as our daily Japanese. Besides, you're not a dope who relies solely on anime to learn a language, are you?
>>979 I hope New York Times will survive in this difficult situation and thrive. It taught me a lot of English.
>>981 I'm Japanese and my English sucks. My kanji writing skills suck harder though.
>Lucky Star You're watching an awesome show. KONATAHHHHHHHHHH!!!1!! YOUR SO ADORABLE!!
Ah, but I digress. I watched it both in English and Japanese. Apparently the English dub is not as good as its original, but it was decent if you ask me. The series contains a plethora of inner jokes so it might be a little bit harder for Japanese learners. As for exaggeration, I think it's good to hear exaggerated voice acting if you're learning a non-tonal or semi-tonal language such as Japanese. Idiosyncratic vocabulary and grammar are noticeable and they take care of themselves if you get a lot of input. Just my two cents. You should take it with a lot of salt.
>>984 I was thinking that you were from USA, its good to talk with a Japanese.
Yeah i saw Lucky Star and it was really good, im somewhat walked away from Anime right now, but i still saw some things. The last thing i saw was Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu (乃木坂春香の秘密) and it was cute, also i watched Detroit Metal City and i absolutely love it.
Still... i was wondering if there are some type of gaijin-friendly series in Japan for starting learning Japanese. It doesnt really need to be Anime but if there are some recommendations, i will truly appreciate it.
>>956 I'm a student of uni(^O^) and of course a one of the residents here. This threat is our house in which we can post as we like without reserve( ̄∀ ̄) Welcome, チリ人=
>>987 Thanks for your welcome! i was a little afraid to use a nick because i heard that its a little "noob/DQM" to do that on 2ch. But i guess i will do it, at least for a while.
>>986 Hmm, I don't often watch anime in Japanese. If anything, most of series I have watched are in English. I think what you like is the best learning materials when it comes to language. As long as you get a lot of input, your Japanese gets better and better each day. I think eventually you'll know which is cartoonish and which is normal.
Also, the prescriptive grammar is all well and good, but, in my humble opinion, your language should represent yourself. My English is heavily influenced by my nerdy hobby, but that's fine. I'm not learning English to fake myself. I want to be myself.
That said, if you're planing on taking a standardized test such as JLPT, you may want to use anime targeted to adults because language is more mature and closer to the vernacular. I think common sense will tell which is wrong to use as a learning source of standard Japanese.
>>989 So you are saying that i need to watch seinen Anime for get a more natural learning? Is funny to hear a Japanese saying that they prefer to watch Anime in English, mostly people thinks the opposite but i understand your "nerd hobby", to be honest isnt really nerdy, you learn a lot with that anyway.
>>990 I think anything will do the job. It's just if you choose shows for kids, you'll need more time to get proper grammar down. In any case, you learn grammar and vocabulary that appear again and again in various shows and forget infrequent phrases. And those frequent ones you come across in many series are most likely proper Japanese for obvious reasons.
I mean, don't think you can say X just because a particular character said X in a show. I thought this was common sense, but some people claim students shouldn't use anime and manga because they learn strange language, which I think is bullshxt.
>>992 I understand, well of course i learned a lot of Japanese words before i starting studying. Like Watashi (わたし) or Anata (あなた) and all those really basic things. Another word that i learned with Anime and Japanese cinema was "Daiyoubu" (大丈夫). I guess this was because i was a fan of Kikuko Inoue when i was more young (笑). So yeah, Anime and Japanese shows helps a lot in Japanese learning, my humble opinion.
Thanks for your help, i gonna go to sleep now (its 5 AM in Chile now), greetings.
Japanese starves for speaking with the foreigner, therefore when they saw writing "アメリカ人" or "チリ人", they make a response greedly . Moreover, though Japanease make a response to the remark of the same Japanese as carping at a fault, they never carps at a fault to the foreigner's remark. Speaking with the foreigner for the Japanese is honor act as if they speek with the TV entertainer of their yearning. If you see Japanese groins at that time, you will find to be wet in the combustor.