Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 128

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Hey!!! you NEETs, nerds, YouTube-link spammers, pedophiles, neo-Nazis,
Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers, Part-Time-Preachers,
Diplomats' spoiled sons, losers who can't remember Kanji characters,
Big-boobs fans, Weeaboos from all over the world, learners of Japanese
who are too lazy to update their Japanese blogs very often, and cunning
linguists. And let's celebrate the comeback of the Internet-addicted
housewife.

Here is the place to have a ball!!!!!
2名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/06(金) 15:56:50
>>1
Good job, dude!

You are Mr. Eng"r"ish.
3名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/06(金) 17:39:29
Boy, do I sure like to procrastinate.

I'm an American student awake past midnight working on a paper that I've had a week to complete.

Do Japanese students procrastinate as much as they do here?

I absolutely cannot wait for this weekend. I'm going to get so much sleep~ 。・゚(ノД`)゚・。
4名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/06(金) 18:16:47
GJ, >>1
5名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/06(金) 20:56:33
>>3
Procrastination is universal.
Everybody here do procrastinate.

I can concentrate more when the deadline is nearing and end up
waking up all night studying. Then I regret I should have made a
plan and should have studied following the plan but I never do that.
Because if there are lots of time, I am not in the mood for studying.
and goofing around.
6名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/06(金) 21:34:27
We want a cool prime minister too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX8LFNqxDZM
7金玉儿:2009/02/06(金) 22:12:10
I also surely like to procrastinate in masturbation.
Because I don't ejaculate without trying through all onapet- for example Kim Yu-na, Sekimori Hinowa, and Oshita Yoko...etc.
It is wasteful for me to ejaculate at once.
8Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/07(土) 00:45:20
>>6

There are greater issues right now than legalization of marijuana. If Obama starts
focusing a lot of attention on that issue while he is president right now then he is
nothing more than an appeaser.
9名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 01:57:10
ttp://livede55.com/

What do you think of the girls on the website where you can chat with them,
text chat, voice chat, video chat for your preferance?
It's not free of charge to chat but you can peep at them by clicking on their
faces. Just clicking on each of their face and peeping doesn't cost any
money. It's nice in that it feels like you are peeping at them in thier own rooms.
You feel like as if you were in their room.

I have visted equivelants on overseas servers but the girls there look too
professional and in almost cases they strip tease on your request.
The girls on the Japanese website look very amaturish and looks like
girls next door. Some even states that they never took of their clothes
even if you request. The site isn't categorized in adult category so
you can't complain. (If you are lucky, some may get naked if you request
though.)

If I were a girl, I'd never sign up for that kind of chat site and make
money like that. Shame on them. They think they can make easy money
just by chatting! As a man myself, why on earth do I have to pay money
to them just by chatting? Isn't it rediculous? Of course the website
continues because there are men who pay money just to chat with them.
Can't believe it.

I heard good looking girls make a lot of money in that kind of chatting
webiste while ugly girls have no men who want to chat them and just
wasting time waiting for someone to talk with. I guess I'd feel like
an animal in the zoo if I were them with lots of men just peeping at
them with no intention of chatting. They must feel like they are rejected.
10Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/07(土) 04:31:03
I used to procrastinate a lot, but now I think I am now much more disciplined. Although I've
adjusted my goals so that I only work on and study things which I am very interested
in because I found most of my procrastination was a result of boredom with whatever
I was doing. It would be physically painful for me to continue working on something
I was just bored to tears with.
11名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 06:13:58
I've been trying to play final fantasy 7 on PC, but I have trouble getting it to work..
What should I do to solve the problem(s) I have now?

By the way, do you have any recommendations on RPGs?
I've completed the legend of heros 6 lately, and I found it really interesting.
Actually it took me more than 150 hours to complete FC, SC, TC all told.
And I also like final fantasy series (up to 9 exclusive 8, though).
Recommendation?
12名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 07:42:10
>>11
What sort of problems are you having?

And do you only want recommendations for PC RPGs?
13名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 08:17:42
>>11
Throw out the game console out of the window.
Go out and play football.
14名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 08:22:01
>>11
Start fantasizing about 7 women at a time.
15片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/07(土) 08:52:17
>>10
I used to procrastinate a lot, but now I think [ I am now much more disciplined ].
[ Although I've adjusted my goals [ so that I only work on and study things
[ which I am very interested in ]
[ because I found [ most of my procrastination was a result of boredom with
[ whatever I was doing ] ].
It would be physically painful [ for me to continue
[ working on something [ I was just bored to tears with ] ].
16片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/07(土) 08:57:07
>>10
It's good [ of you to have spiritually grown
[ to find [ what you're really interested in [ which is the meaning of your life [ with which to do good to the society ] ] ].

17片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/07(土) 09:13:25
I would also surely like to procrastinate for Brad Pitt and Tsumabuki.
[ Because I wouldn't ejaculate without [ trying through all those males ] ]
I can't help procrastinating the time I cum.
I haven't cummed for more than a week though.


18firestar:2009/02/07(土) 09:50:18
i wonder if captain spicard got his IP blocked? i have not seen him on 2ch lately...
19片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/07(土) 09:52:35
[ Acting only within [ limited ] conditions of computer games
[ which several humans created ] ] is only a prison activities.
Get ou of your door.
Walk in nature [ which never fully content you with its infinity ].

20firestar:2009/02/07(土) 09:59:35
>>18
I found him in 4chan! He is always posting lolicon on /g/ under a trip, so he is easy to find.

> Captain Spicard !mOdChRomEs 02/06/09(Fri)19:54 No.3459430

>>3459395
They don't. When they wanted to get rid of sparky they were going to have to write emails to whoever runs the place.
USA ips were blocked though. For some reason Earthlink in NY wasn't, but as soon as I got back to college that was it. I got bored of it right after December anyway.
21firestar:2009/02/07(土) 10:03:21
>>20
> Captain Spicard !mOdChRomEs 02/06/09(Fri)19:58 No.3459462

>>3459445
"...THEY COME IN HERE, AND POST ALL BULLSHIT TEXT. IT IS OVERLOADING OUR SERVERS."
I mean, really. There wasn't a good reason to do so, since it was the /english/ channel, and most of the English speakers were there to help (Not me, I was just dicking around) but that's just what happened.
22名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 10:39:47
>>18
If he's eager to post in 2ch, he uses proxy like アメリカ人 and 米人
does. Although, they seem to have to try many proxies just to post one message.
23firestar:2009/02/07(土) 10:48:50
glad i don't need a proxy
24名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 12:40:14
Do American users traditionally require proxies to post?

I'm getting through just fine.
25名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 12:56:11
From now on, you should enrich your mind “through” comunicating with a lot of people from various backgrounds.

Do you think the way of using “through” is correct?
I use the word frequently while writing English sentenses, but every time I do, I feel a bit uneasy to think the usage might be wrong.
26名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 13:05:41
>>24
Not all American is blocked. It seems like it depends on ISP you use.
Comecast and a few others are blocked. Not only America, but people from
Sweden with .se at the end of thier IP address are blocked.

I don't think it's traditional thing as far as I know. Korean people use
major American ISP servers as proxy to cyber attack to 2ch, so 2ch has taken
a measure to prevent it. It's been like that for the past few years or so.
27Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/07(土) 13:07:29
>>25

That sounds fine to me (fine as in it sounds natural, I mean). "by" would work too.
28名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 13:09:14
>>27
Thanks!
29名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 15:47:24
I watched Hero's on TV 2days ago.
Mashioka and other Japanese was playing with Japannese in the play.
Their Japanese is completely strange, I mean GAIJIN English.
It sounds like stupid as a Japanese.
30名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 16:06:24
I feel annoying everytime I see those silly messages and brackets by those BIG2 perverts.
Actually, they can be ignored if you want by installing one of the 2ch browsers,
but I also feel a little ridiculous to bother to install it only to avoid their hentai posts.
31名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 16:44:19
However, hentai is going to save the world in the end. You can't deny this fate.
32名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 17:23:45
>>30
He isn't just a hentai but a hybrid of hentai, faggot, pedo and moron.
He's a mutant of perverts so no conventional repellents works.
33名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 17:32:28
C'mon, we're all hentai at heart, you're no exception. So stop trying to be so moralistic.
What you have to do is just pretend all is well or let your heart speak the truth.
34名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 17:44:20
I'm hentai but I'm sure I'm not a mutant of hentai like him.
35名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 17:56:39
I'm far beyond hentai and his hentainess is next to nothing compared to mine, but I'm not going to disclose it.
36金玉儿:2009/02/07(土) 18:18:02
Sukichi-kun May I humbly ask for permission to insert my penis into your honorable ass hole?
(honorable ass hole = おならふる肛門)
hahya,hahya,hahya...
37名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 20:27:57
hello, how are you? this is a pen!
38siro:2009/02/07(土) 21:29:09
hey, what's going on here?
39名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 21:50:14
>>38
As you know nothing.
40名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/07(土) 22:40:55
>>38
Read from >>1 to >>37 then you'll know what's going on here.
41名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/08(日) 02:11:14
KRAZY! The Delirious World of Anime + Manga + Video Games
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksdwcyfh3GU

So, it sounds like they're attempting to metamorphose today's anime or otaku culture into something artsy there.
Does it really make sense to foreigners? Or an utter farce?
42Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/08(日) 03:06:56
>>41

By definition, anime can be art, but I don't think it makes any sense to try and
make art out of it. A convention like that just sounds like a business con game
to me.
43片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/08(日) 03:23:58
>>36
Penis Balls, May I humbly ask you to insert your rather large penis into my honorable ass hole?
(rose fragrance fart bursting ass hole)
uuuuunnnnn uuuuuunnnnnnn ooooooohh yeeeaaaaaahhh
44片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/08(日) 03:25:26
Are we all hentai at heart?
Tennessian, are you, too?


45片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/08(日) 03:29:01
Tennesean, did you live by the Tennessie River?
Can you sing, Way down upon the Swannie River far far a way?
Are you fond of Huckleberry Finn?

46片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/08(日) 03:31:15
Well, going to bed
47linger:2009/02/08(日) 07:18:49
>7
Really? I can't masturbate more than once every two days. After masturbating, I lose all sexual feelings for 24 hours. I can't procrastinate more than 30 minutes like that.
48Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/08(日) 14:19:45
>>44

Yes

>>45

No. The area around the Tennessee River in Nashville is a terrible part of town. It's
full of crime, unkempt, and ugly as sin.
49名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/08(日) 14:27:16
>>43-46
こんなところでまでわざわざ基地外振りを発揮するなよw
まさしく「すう基地外」だなw
50名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/08(日) 16:38:59
Tennessean's town is full of Blacks.
51名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/08(日) 19:49:47
>>12
Well, that's hard to say. But simply, when I try to start the game (clicking on the new game button), the screen goes black.
I don't know why. I installed the software and thought that's all I had to do to run it, though.

>>13
Yeah, because I don't have any game consoles such as PS2 and Wii.
Plus I'm poor at action games, inclusive Action RPGs. In fact, I tried playing Ys the oath in felgana, but the first Boss defeated me
(so couldn't go any further than that. lol).
Anyway, compared to consumer games, it's really tough to find a good and interesting one.
The other day, I stumbled onto one of the Square Enix's websites designed to advertise Last Remnants on PC, but it
seemed still up in the air when the game was supposed to be released.
Hmm, if falcom completed developing the legend of heros 7 now, I would get a copy of it soon, though..
52名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 00:13:25
I forgot whether this is a joke or a real story but this may show one aspect of
Japan's English education. A Japanese teacher were making his students
repeat English sentences after him.

Teacher: All right, repeat after me. "My name is Ken."
Students: "My name is Ken."
Teacher: "I'm 14 years old."
Students: "I'm 14 years old."
-----the repeating practice goes on--------
Teacher: "I played tennis after school."
Students: "I played tennis after school."
Students are so shy that they just kept mumbling each sentence after him.
The teacher got irritated by that and said, SPEAK OUT LOUD, OK?
Teacher: "I'm very tired."
Students: "I'm very tired."
The teacher said to his student, "Repeat with more energy." Then the teacher read the sentense
at the top of his lungs. The lesson went on... How on earth a tired person say the line
with energy.
53名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 00:15:46
I mean, why on earth, not how on earth.
Maybe how and why on earth is better.
54名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 03:14:16
Obama's inauguration craze is settling down but now I'm listening to
his inauguration speech.

This is no doubt the best page to review Obama's inauguration speech.
ttp://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/01/20/us/politics/20090120_INAUGURAL_ANALYSIS.html?hp#

Books with a CD of his speech sell a lot in Japan. They say that the
total number of the kind of books would be impossible unless not only English
learners but people who don't study English had bought it.
One news show aired about how people use the CD. One barber plays the
CD while doing her job.

She doesn't study English but she said in an intervew that the speech
makes her full of energy.

Obama memorized all of his speech? The speech is about 20 minute long.
It seems impossible to memorize it.
55名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 03:47:54
dats so silly. I havnt bought Obama CD yet and wont in the future.
btw, Obama is a poser.
I assure you all, he cant bridge the financial crisis in the states.
YES, YOU CAN. but what?
56名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 04:22:46
>>48
Are you a Nashville teen?
57Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/09(月) 06:23:35
>>56

You mean am I a teenager and living in Nashville? No. Nashville is close by
though and I have to go through there frequently.
58名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 06:40:03
I guess 70% of American can't spell Tennessean right while only 10% of
Tennessean can't spell it right. Tennesseans are locals so the vast majority
of them can spell it right.

The same goes for Mississipi. The vast majority of locals of Mississipi states
can spell it right, but the vast majority of American can't spell
Mississipi right. I know I can't spell it right as you can see.

I guess even native English speakers have trouble of remembering
the spelling states names. Why double n and s in Tennessean?
I have no clues.
59名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 08:27:38
Could you guys explain what filibuster is?  What do congressmen do in filibuster?
60名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 08:42:50
>>58
because there is no specific rule
61名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 09:27:11
Do you ever heard the the word “often-stated phrase”?
I want to know whether this word is widely used or not.

In addition, “often-stated phrase” is translated into “決まり文句” in Japanese.
62名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 10:09:50
>>61
No, I never heard ofit.  I hear cliche used instead.
63名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 10:23:56
>>62
Thanks for your contribution.
Cliche is also an unfamiliar word for me. I wonder how it is pronouced;
64名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 10:31:45
It comes from French.
65名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 10:34:16
The French are hentai.
66名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 10:39:01
>>65
Right.

My favorite French word coming into English vocabulary is derriere.
67名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 10:56:08
French fuck means breast sex. I love it.
68名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 11:06:52
It seems Zwei 2 is a good game, but it's an action RPG.
I wonder if I have a hard time attacking enemies..
69名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 11:28:39
I prefer Mario
70名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 11:31:26
You mean Mario Brothers? I have to say it's good, but it's not my taste.
I like RPGs coz I love to enjoy stories deeply, but you can't when playing action games, can you?
71名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 11:35:11
Video games are for morons. Mature adults seek a real life away from them.
72名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 11:42:43
There's no problem for me to be a moron. I just love RPGs.
They are sometimes really touching and some other times quite exciting,
and gives me a sense of satisfaction when I complete. Just like that.
You are missing one piece for life if you have never experienced that feeling.
Really.
73名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 11:42:44
you can learn nothing important from video games. it's just a waste of time and money.
74名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 11:45:35
>>72
Do you like hentai games? That I could understand but never tried any before.
75名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 11:47:26
>>74
The category has never appealed to me.
Like I said, RPGs are at the top of my list, and then comes SRPGs.
I'm really into them.
76名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 11:50:42
>>75
Are you saying you are not hentai at heart? I'd call you a hypocrate then.
77名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 11:51:21
>>73
I don't mean to learn from video games, though.
But what kind of stuff do you want to learn from what kind of stuff?
You are making too much of video games.
78名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 11:53:06
>>76
I thought we were talking about video games.

Hmm, where can I find a good RPGs?
79名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 11:57:31
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3998134

Zwei 2 appears really good, but... if it's difficult to control charactors, I think I can't play it well.
80名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 11:57:42
>>78
You're totally digressing from the main subject. Where can we find good hentai games?
That is the point of this thread right now.
81名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 12:00:09
I'm hoping that this one is worth playing.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5989137
82名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 12:00:28
>>79
It's kind of cute but definitely not hentai enough. Next.
83米人:2009/02/09(月) 12:11:03
>>58
Actually, many of us can spell "Mississippi" correctly.
There was a jump rope game I played as a kid where you had to spell the
name of that state while jumping.
Many of our place names here (state, city, county, river etc.) come from
Native American words. Tennessee, Mississippi, Connecticut, Massachusetts,
Kansas, Iowa and Ohio are a few examples.
84名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 12:17:11
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5725859

While I was looking for RPGs, I just found gay radio program. lol
85名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 12:18:09
It's kind of like a realy kamasawagi. lol
86名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 12:26:20
What's the best American RPG? I'm curious!
87米人:2009/02/09(月) 12:29:10
>>59
In the U.S., filibusters only happen in the Senate.
Originally, a filibuster was a very long speech on any topic by a Senator
that prevented a bill before the Senate from being acted upon. The speech
could be given by one Senator, or a series of Senators. The record for
longest filibuster by one person is held by Sen. Strom Thurmond, who spoke
continuously for 24 hours and 18 minutes.
Now, a Senator only has to indicate he's filibustering and doesn't have to
actually make the speech.
The majority party can end a filibuster by voting for "cloture" (end of
debate), but it needs 3/5 of the Senate voting for it to pass. That is
why a party that holds 60 seats in the Senate is said to have a
"filibuster-proof majority", since it has enough Senators to vote for cloture.
88米人:2009/02/09(月) 12:45:30
>>63
Cliche is a common word here.
It's pronounced "cli-shay" where the "cli" is the short i sound like
clip

>>86
No idea. Are you a Club Penguin type, or a World of Warcraft type?
I equate RPGs with MMORPGs but maybe that is wrong.
The original pen and paper RPG was "Dungeons and Dragons" I think.
89名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 13:04:57
>>87
Thanks for the detailed info.  So the senators just say I want to filibuster.
Can it last as long as a few days?  No time limit set for filibuster?
90名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 13:19:16
>>88
oh,‘che’is pronunced like ‘shay’?
It doesn't seem to obey the generally accepted rule of English pronunciation.
Maybe French influence, as someone said.

Well, do you hear the phrase‘often-stated phrase’ in your everyday life?
Both of them mean the same thing when translated into Japanese.
91米人:2009/02/09(月) 13:24:52
>>89
A filibuster could (in theory) last indefinitely, as long as there
aren't enough votes for cloture and there are enough Senators to keep
it up. (The Senate Majority Leader can force the minority to
do the traditional spoken filibuster.)
In practice, the longest recent filibuster was 75 hours, on the
Civil Rights bill of 1964. That filibuster was broken when
the Senate Majority leader refused to refer any other business to
the Senate, and the filibustering minority couldn't continue it.
That forced a vote on the bill.
Most of the time, the minority party threatens a filibuster, and
if there aren't enough votes for cloture, then the bill is shelved
without being put to a vote.
92米人:2009/02/09(月) 13:35:45
>>90
We never use the phrase "often-stated phrase". It's easier to just
say "cliche". We have also turned it into an adjective "cliched",
a synonym of "hackneyed" (overused, commonplace).
And we like our French words--cliche, bureau, menu, ala carte,
croissant, etc.
93名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 13:55:37
>>89
Thanks, Rice Man.  So what is the validity of filibuster except giving
the minority a chance to whine?  Does filibuster work in any constructive
manner for the minority to push through legislation?
94名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 14:08:33
>>92
Really?
That phrase is introduced in my writing textbook proudly, so I'm a little disappointed(;
Then it seems better to use the word cliche instead of that at an exam or something like this.
By the way, some of the words, menu and carte, are often used in Japan too.
95名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 15:11:02
>>93
She's not a man but a housewife.
96名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/09(月) 20:08:06
>>95
K.

Rice Girl, appreciate your comment.
97名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 01:30:05
She's not a girl but a matured hotty.
98米人:2009/02/10(火) 01:56:01
>>93
Too bad that English doesn't allow me to write in a more feminine manner.
In that respect, Japanese is much more useful.
Yes, I'm a woman.

You have it exactly right--the filibuster gives the minority party some power
to block bills. No one wants to get rid of it, because eventually both parties
are in the minority and they want that power. The filibuster is great for blocking
legislation, but it doesn't allow anyone to introduce new legislation. The minority
party is pretty much out of luck there, unless the majority party likes the bill
(in which case they'll introduce their own version, so they can take the credit).
Our system of government with all of the checks and balances sometimes leads
to nothing getting accomplished.

>>94
I checked that term on Google; you actually do see "often stated phrase"
in (more formal) writing. But in speech and casual writing,
you would hear or see cliche. If your exam involves an essay, I would
stay with "often-stated phrase"; it sounds more refined.
It isn't exactly taught to us, but there are formal and informal
ways to express yourself in English, and we adjust our vocabulary
accordingly.

>>97
!!
Thank God this is an anonymous forum so I don't have to worry about (not) living
up to your image of me!
99名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 02:48:42
>>57
Have you ever heard of The Nashville Teens?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hz2PEny-0M
My question was intended as a pun.

I was informed that they were neither teens nor from Nashiville.

But I was now surprised to know for the first time
that they were from the U.K.
lol
I can see how influential American culture was to U.K already at the time.
Rock and roll was still American thing.
They affected American.
I don't know the clear history of rock and roll.
Was that kind of music created by Black people only?
100名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 02:58:04
>>70
Mario Brothers is more fun when it's played by two simultaneously.
Both collaboration play and competition play are fun.
Sudden treachery is more fun like attacking mario or luige
from under the bar when the game is supposed to be
a collaboration play.
My counterpart became angry and the game became more eiciting.
101real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/02/10(火) 03:12:55
I'm a Japanese. And I've studied English for two months to listen a radio program.
That program is AFN (American Forces Network).
When I were listening it, I frequently listened a idiom of "make sure".
And I can't catch meaning of sentences including this idiom correctly.
I don't know but it is difficult for me and I had one question.
That is whether useing "make sure" frequently is something fashion
or it has been used frequently for a long time.
Could someone teach me it please?
102名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 03:27:46
>>100
You are a fan of action games, right?
The classic Mario Brothers might be fun to play since it's simple.

>>101
Just keep at it and make sure to post here more than 3 times a day.
103名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 03:38:14
>>102
Not exactly.
First Mario brothers happens to be my favorite.
The Setting of every phase was the same. The screen was static too.
Fist mario was much more simple.
Today's action games like Metal Slug seem to be hard and complicated.
The screen scrolls horizontally and various enemies appear with various traps and
attacks.
104名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 03:47:09
>>103
So you like simple and classic games.
And I have never heard of Metal Slug. Based on what you say,
the game may be annoying. (I don't like action games.lol)
105名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 03:53:08
More cruel and bloody.
Characters are comically depicted though.
106名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 03:55:40
You still keep in in your hand?
Throw it away or sell it away if you don't like it.
107名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 03:56:58
>>98
I know you're 40 something sizzling hot juicy matured chocolate-covered sugar-coated
sweet-smelled crispy cherry pie fresh from the oven.
108名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 03:59:17
I guess action games and shooting games are prone to make
players nervous and angry.
These games require skills and memories.
You have to try again and again and sometimes become hopeless
being stranded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps6s5Fqnmvs
The most notoriously difficult shoot'em all game.
109名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 04:00:38
>>106
I've never owned it or played it. lol
I just had up to date knowledge.
110名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 04:01:49
>>108
Stop playing action games.

I'm planing to play phantasy star universe.
111名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 04:16:12
>>110
Yeah, Shooting games are not healthy to
mental health. I agree.
I saw "shooters" kick the under part of the game machine.
Silly and ridiculous.

Still I end up thinking this kind of stuff is maneuver man can even
achieve.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pm26Amaqc4&feature=related
A waste of time and money for nothing to be approved? maybe true.
112Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/10(火) 05:05:13
There are some good first person shooters. Call of Duty 4 is one which is extremely
popular in the U.S. The sniper mission in the single player is especially popular.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGsinhgUhTw
poor quality video, but you can generally tell what is going on.
113名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 05:19:32
>>107
wow, that's a lot of pies.
114名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 05:23:35
>>112
Have you ever heard this song?

Arrested Development - Tennessee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g40c6iAEHpc
115名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 05:45:54
Ichiro's Favorite American Expression
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtImIqR5neU&feature=channel_page

What's so funny about this????
116ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc :2009/02/10(火) 06:53:35
>>101
"Make sure", huh...?
It's sort of like "confirm".

Before drinking milk, you should make sure it hasn't spoiled.
I'm trusting you with these children; make sure they get home.

Does that help?
117Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/10(火) 06:58:40
>>114

Lol no. Some black people singing at the bottom of a hill... fascinating.

If you want to know some history of Tennessee, it is called the "Volunteer State"
because historically TN has always been one of the greatest contributers of volunteers
to the military during past major wars (War of 1812, Civil War, WW1, WW2).

I recall hearing a story that in the town of Franklin, which is near a town where I live,
during WW2, men were brawling each other in the streets in order to be some of the first
to volunteer for the military for the war.
118名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 07:40:06
What does the word "hick" derive from? Is it considered as a derogatory term?
119ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc :2009/02/10(火) 07:54:22
>>118
"Hick" is definitely an insult. It's used to describe unsophisticated,
narrow-minded people.

The word is derived from "Hick", a shortened form of "Richard".

...I don't know how they got "Hick" from "Richard".
Another modern-day shortened form of "Richard" is "Dick". Democrats
called President Richard Milhous Nixon "Tricky Dick", for example.
120アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/02/10(火) 08:03:00
Wow being blocked is annoying.
So how has everyone been? This past Saturday I went to a Japanese restaurant called
"Sunshine Cafe". Their shtick is that it's homestyle Japanese cooking, so no sushi like every
other Japanese restaurant in Chicago. The food was amazing.
My friends and I all started with 餃子 and then I had 親子丼. Oh and 味噌汁 came with our meals as well.

Actually I have pretty Japanese week ahead of me as my family is going to a nice sushi place for
my dad's birthday. Then on Tuesday of next week I'm going to hopefully be seeing the Kodo taiko drummers.

I was also sorta in a play this past Saturday: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Too_Much_Light_Makes_the_Baby_Go_Blind
The actors do 30 plays in 60 minutes and often get the audience members involved. The story is kinda complicated but
basically they were doing a light show/dance and randomly picked me, dressed me up in a mask and I joined them in
dancing (happily getting laughter from the audience). That took about 2 minutes so I still have 13 minutes of fame left!
121名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 08:10:04
>>119
"Hick" from "Richard" never occured to me.
Nicknames in English are sometimes beyond my imagination.
It seems that people named Richard would be embarrassed from time to time.
Or maybe they don't care. Thank you for your answer.
122名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 09:02:02
How does hickey end up being called what you get on your neck?
123Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/10(火) 10:56:04
>>122

The world will never know.
124名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 10:58:58
>>119
I'm sorry but I can't find any similarity between Richard and Hick, not to mention Dick.
Just interesting.
125名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 11:14:08
How is Dick Button evaluated in the US?
126名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 11:33:27
>>117
As far as I know, Arrested Development was disbanded years ago.
I bought a copy of their CD albums (including Tennessee) several years ago and I happened to listen to it yesterday. lol
They got one or two (or three) glammy (grammy?) award prize(s) for "everyday people".

Now to the topic, I didn't know the history. It's interesting.
So the volunteer spirit still might run in your state.

>>120
Hahaha, 餃子 and 親子丼? That's a bit strange cordination for a meal.
Believe me, I have never had them at a meal. I don't know why, though.
But I like both of the menues, yeah.

By the way, can I ask you guys about an English sound connection that I've been holding for long?
First off, please have a listen to this song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfcgTDrhEXM&feature=related
At about 1:07, she songs, "no one ever wins". But it sounds like
"no one never wins" to me.
Do you think English speakers would never make a mistake like myself?
127Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/10(火) 11:34:00
>>120

I have only eaten sushi once in my life. When I was a lot younger, I went to
some fancy restaurant and ate some. I recall it tasting like... nothing, really.
128名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 11:35:39
I mean, a question I've been holding.
129Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/10(火) 11:38:08
>>126

It sounds like "no one ever wins" to me although I can see why would you think
"never". It is being said really fast.
130名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 12:46:57
>>120
How was that 餃子?
I want to you to eat my home made 餃子.
I'm sure you'll love it.
131金玉儿:2009/02/10(火) 13:55:10
>>121
Surely, it is very difficult to associate "Hick" from "Ruchard".
But, it is easy for me to associate a enormous serpent from swelling muscle of a woman's thigh.
Then I cannot be without masturbating as intensely as brutes.
132金玉儿:2009/02/10(火) 14:29:19
>>120
It is the most popular in Japan to order a set of menu included ラーメン, 餃子, and 炒飯(or rice).
When you order Japanese food, you should not only order but order with thinking about the combination in the balance of their taste.
Otherwise, I'm goint to crush your testicles in my hand !

133名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 14:38:38
>>131
Sorry, I have no fucking idea what you're trying to get across but perhaps that's what you wanted.
Therefore, I am not going to pry further into it.
134名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 15:53:03
>>131-132
It seems that you can never speak without using obscene expressions.
135名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 17:47:45
I searched for this chain of words on the web: (Subject) had my foot stepped on(.)
But contrary to my expection, as few as about one-hundred cases were gained.

This result made me wonder how English speakers express such situation as someone stepped on their foot verbally.
(btw‘my foot was stepped on by someone’seemed to be gramatically wrong sentense)

Can you give my clue to solve this ?
136名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/10(火) 21:44:01
This jerk stepped on my foot.
137Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/10(火) 23:47:02
>>135

"My foot was stepped on by someone" sounds right to me.
138ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc :2009/02/11(水) 01:34:16
"Someone stepped on my foot" and "my foot was stepped on by someone"
mean the same thing.

The difference is, the first sentence is in the active voice, and the
second sentence is in the passive voice.
139real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/02/11(水) 03:03:51
>>102
Oh, three times... That's very difficult for me. One time is my limit.
But I think posting here in English is effective in studying English too.
Because we Japanese have no chance to write in English at all in daily life.

>>116
I knew that "confirm" is same meaning as "make sure".
But I have hardly heard "confirm", and I have heard "make sure" very very frequently.
Isn't it formal word?
By the way, I think "make sure" has many meanings.
I think that it's similar to "check" and "I will do it certainly that ... " and etc...

By the way, A-Rod admitted using steroids.
In Japan, it was reported, because Baseball is very popular.
Many Japanese people are looking forward to WBC(World Baseball Classic).
But now popularity of Baseball comes to fall down.
I'm afraid this situation may accelerate.
140名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/11(水) 03:05:12
This car needs repairing.
This car needs to be repaired.

Which usage is more common in modern colloquial English?
141名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/11(水) 04:33:06
>>120
You live a culturally rich life.

>That took about 2 minutes so I still have 13 minutes of fame left!
I don't understand what this means. I need to read the wikipedia article
to understand this? Anyway, I can imagine it's troublesome you can only
manage to post successfully one out of ten tries because of 2ch's blocking
IPs from overseas.

The leading actors of "High school musical" came to Japan the other day for their
sales promotion campaign for their DVD, or movie or something like that.
I checked the male leading actor's name and searched him in Japanese Wikipedia and
it says that he's going to enroll USC, which if I remember correctly,
is your first choice. Did you know that?

I know USC requires excellent academic record for students to
enroll in. I doubt he is good at studying because he is busy with his
acting carrer. Maybe his recommendation letters from teachers and
extra carricular activities and his carrer as a pro in acting is evaluated highly
by the uni's addmission office? Any observation?
I don't blame you if you don't answer me to think your access to 2ch
is restricted.
142Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/11(水) 04:53:09
Haha, I've said before that Memphis is a dangerous and terrible city. In an article
called "America's Most Miserable Cities" from abc news, Memphis is among those cities.
(http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Economy/Story?id=6845277&page=3)

"The home of FedEx has an incredibly high rate of violent crimes, with only Detroit faring
worse. The 1,218 violent crimes per 100,000 residents is more than twice the rate in the
New York City metro area."
143ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc :2009/02/11(水) 05:32:54
>>141
It's a reference to the expression "15 minutes of fame".
The expression itself comes from a statement made by Andy Warhol in
1968: "In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes."
Warhol's view of the media was that it could enable any person to
become famous--if only for a short while.

Nowadays, a period of short-lived fame is often referred to as a
person's "15 minutes of fame".
144名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/11(水) 05:47:37
63.1% Black or African American
81.6% Black
145名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/11(水) 06:52:28
hay you guys, fuck you!
146名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/11(水) 06:56:16
>>129
I don't think so.
The singer actually says, "no one never wins" but we can make out what she really says based on the grammatical knowledge.
147名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/11(水) 07:02:42
hi,good morining everyone.
im fucking NEET.
i decided to kill you all!
148名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/11(水) 07:16:24
>your access to 2ch is restricted.
Come to think of it, they've started to restrict access from America
since when 2ch was sold to someone or some organization in Singapore, right?
I wonder if American people still can read 2ch even when they are blocked.
149名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/11(水) 07:23:04
>>142
>The 1,218 violent crimes per 100,000 residents
Wait a minute.

Should I read one thousand and two hundred eighteen or
(seeing as you mistyped a dot for a comma) one point two one eight? That'll make a big defference.
150Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/11(水) 08:02:57
>>149

I just copy/pasted that quote from the article. So unless the writer made a
typo, it should be one thousand two hundred eighteen (1,218)
151名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/11(水) 09:39:59
So...
When is Japan going to apologize to China for 南京大虐殺?
Or 731部隊. Or the マニラ大虐殺. Or the 5000 war crimes Japan did.
152名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/11(水) 09:49:45
If China apologizes to barbars in Futon
153名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/11(水) 10:01:29
I've seen a Futon sofa that you can spread out to have a bed.
154片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/11(水) 10:35:01
I do not want to put a sword into someone's body.
I do not want to cut somebody's flesh with a blade.

155名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/11(水) 11:24:47
Prosciutto di Parma con melone, s'il vous plait.
156名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/11(水) 23:47:27
>>133
replace "from" with "with", then you'll be able to 金玉's
English much more.
157名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 00:13:37
Whats up guys?
I just came here so i dont know whats going on but i know im up to talk about 金玉
158名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 00:21:18
im waiting 4 my friend to come back from a shop so im bored
everyone talk about 金玉 now!
what kinda 金玉 do u like?
159名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 00:30:51
I think walking to the shop with your freind is more valuable than to talk about shit golden ball.
160名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 00:35:11
thats where ur wrong mista!
its fucking freezing outside
id rather 2 stay here talking bout 金玉
161名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 00:37:33
im a gurl so i dont ave金玉 but i always wanted 2 have one
i like ny kinds of 金玉 as long as its clean n flesh!
162名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 00:42:19
shes not back yet... where the hell shes at?
im getting a lil bit worried about her... i hope she hasnt kidnapped by sum crazy pervert on the way

so... wna talk bout 金玉?
163名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 00:47:52
oh here shes back!
thank you guys
that was nice talking 2 myself here
lololol

call me when you guys wna talk bout 金玉 again
byeeee
164名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 00:52:53
you seem to love 金玉
do you know why men's reproductive organs are called golden ball?
I can't believe they deserve to be called in such a exquisite way
165名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 00:57:00
wow
i hope you keep on talking about 金玉 with her this night
bye
166名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 01:04:06
>>165
i think its bcuz 金玉 products sperms which make a woman get pregnant n have children
they make money when they become grownups... parents dont have to worry about their life after retirement
nowadays they still have to worry about their old age but i think thats where the word came from!!!
agreed? yes you agreed!!!!
167名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 01:07:28
>>165
im sry i dont want you to get disappointed but we are having a nice conversation over おっぱい(*^_^*)
ciao
168名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 10:48:21
What is the reason the Kennedy girl withdrew from Senate race?
169名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 11:26:26
>>168
I think it's political.
170Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/12(木) 12:01:31
>>169

How perceptive.
171名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 12:19:29
Do you guys think she just thought about being a senator as a side job?
172名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 12:24:46
Or was she too serious about the job and thought the job was too daunting?
173金玉儿:2009/02/12(木) 21:26:55
>>164
Though 金玉 is a word in Japan that means testicles, 金玉 is a word in China that means "important thing as gold and treasure" .
I think that 金玉 became a meaning of "testicles" through the process of " important thing" → " important thing of man" → "testicles".
174名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 21:51:28
>>173
you just give me money for apple or get out of here.
175名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/12(木) 23:13:27
>>173
Then,what is "testicles" called in Chinese?
176名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 04:20:54
In English testicles are also called balls玉.
金玉 is rather oval than ball though.
177Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/13(金) 06:57:03
Good morning Japan.
178名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 10:14:34
Hi Tennesseean.
179名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 12:35:06
fuck that
180firestar:2009/02/13(金) 12:49:09
today, all day, there were wind storms here. knocked out the power all over the place. took out stoplights so driving to class was nuts. trees down everywhere and even mailboxes blown over.
twas nuts.
worst part was that the power-outages took out my 2 month uptime haha
181名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 13:28:38
I know the news because I watched abc news here.
It's unbelievable that trees and artificial stuffs were beaten down by just air!
182金玉儿:2009/02/13(金) 18:31:12
Hermes of the goddess that appears in Greek myths is pronounced "he,ru,me,su"in
Japan.
But on the other hand, Hermes of the brand is pronounced "e,ru,me,su".
Why it is different pronunciation though it is the same word?
183名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 18:38:25
Im very lucky 'cause no one give me fucking chocolate so I dont have to afraid of getting the bad tooth and fatten out(´・ω・`)

Im very lucky 'cause no one give me fucking chocolate so I dont have to afraid of getting the bad tooth and fatten out(´・ω・`)

Im very lucky 'cause no one give me fucking chocolate so I dont have to afraid of getting the bad tooth and fatten out(´・ω・`)

Im very lucky 'cause no one give me fucking chocolate so I dont have to afraid of getting the bad tooth and fatten out(´・ω・`)

184名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 18:41:19
Me too.
185名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 20:04:21
>>183
Do you still have a desire to get chocolates from women ?
How old are you?
186名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 20:16:17
>>185
Shut up, you faggot.
187名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 20:17:24
Im only 16 years old sir,
188名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 20:29:24
>>186
Suppress your your anger. Nobody didn't say anything on you.
189名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 20:36:26
>>188
I can't hold mymy anger. What should I do?
190名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 20:43:01
Pondering until you realize is said to be the most effective way in terms of medical science.
191名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 20:45:47
>>189
To my regret, I don't know.
192名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 21:25:37
Today is not a special day for a lot of people including me.
I'd like to survey how many men really enjoy this day.
193名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 22:28:39
>>192
I'm enjoying.
194real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/02/13(金) 23:02:39
Today is Jason's day in Japan.
Friday the 13th.
195real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/02/13(金) 23:12:07
I've got three pity chocolates.
196名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 23:16:04
>>195
I guess, ummm, from sister, mother, and grandmother ??
197real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/02/13(金) 23:30:57
>>182
maybe "he,ru,me,su" is from English. "e,ru,me,su" is from French language.
I like Lalah Sune who rides moble armor "e,ru,me,su".
Do you know GUNDAM? It' a anime.

>>197
Office ladys gave me those.
198real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/02/13(金) 23:35:19
Oh "Office ladies" is a Japanese-English word.
female office workers is correct.
199名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 23:50:53
i think its impossible to give or take some chocolates for their fake loveness
200real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/02/13(金) 23:59:07
Oh >>197's typo. Under response is to >>196.
201名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/13(金) 23:59:55
there are "OTEMACHI"
i cant understand what mean OTE
202名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 00:02:02
>>199
However, it's a very common scene in Japan.
203名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 00:09:48
i drank out tonight.
wanna drink UKON NO CHIKARA.i sometimes mistake UKON to UNKO :D
204real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/02/14(土) 00:17:54
>>201
There are many towns that are named "OTEMACHI" in Japan.
Actual Japanese pronunciation is "oote"
This meaning is the front side of gate of castle.
205名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 00:28:14
>>204
thanks a lot.
do you like baseball and hate soccer?
206名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 00:30:58
>>203
What kind of taste a UKON NN CHIKARA has ?
Though I have great interest in it, I can't dare to drink it out of fear.
That must bad taste or mazui, yes !?
207real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/02/14(土) 01:15:17
>>205
I like soccer too.
You must be Japanese, because you understand the meaning of "yakibuta".
208名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 02:15:38
>>120
Your story reminds me of David Copperfield tour in Japan.
He picked up an audience randomly and showed trick to him or her, even
flew with her.
I was not in the front side but I got nervous and prayed I would not be
chosen.

Americans seem to be more positive and social than Japanese.
And Americans are more groovy.
Japanese are generally shy and person who was picked up by Copperfield seemed to
be embarrased and made a shy smile.
Nobody raised hands and appealed to Copperfield.

I wonder whether there exist americans who freeze and becomes speechless.
Even nerds and geek can happily dance?
I can Dance? never! I feel ashamed to death.

Carrie in the movie is a fictional caracter. But there must be real
Carrie in the U.S....
209名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 02:30:12
By the way, it was said that a person whom Copperfield picked up
was "claque" and same person showed up in different shows.
I thought it must have been true.

Is "claque" appropriate word? I wanted to say さくら which
means a person who is prepared in advance to play a role, whom
we assume amateur.
210名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 02:42:22
>>197
hehehe. I know.
Gundam became shit after lala appeared.
Illusional battle scene and superficial philosophical
conversations (in reality just silly conversations)
between amuro and lala were ludicrous.
211名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 02:53:17
>>207
I didn't pay attention to your name.
I just assumed your name meant literally 焼き豚(fried pork).

I know there are controversy between soccer fan and baseball fan.
In my opinion both are boring. European soccer leagues are
more suited to kill time though.
212名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 10:12:06
>>209
How did you know the same person was chosen at another concert ?
213米人:2009/02/14(土) 10:54:21
>>208
There are lots of people here who don't like to be the center of attention.
I myself am one of them. It's easy to miss us; we don't stand out like the
extroverts do.
As for the "real Carrie", you don't mean a telekinetic arsonist, do you?
I doubt there is anyone like that here.
Or if you mean someone who is bullied then lashes out, there are plenty of
people like that here--remember the Columbine killers? Supposedly they
were outcasts at their high school.

>>209
I wasn't familiar with the term "claque", but the word I would use for that
case is "plant"--someone who is "planted" in the audience to look like
a volunteer but is really a part of the act.
214Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/14(土) 11:52:09
>>208

In all of my classes, nobody ever pipes up to answer the teacher's questions,
even if they are obvious. This may be because some people are half asleep and not
paying attention, but a lot of it is due to people being shy. I often feel so
embarrassed over the classes collective shyness, that I just answer nearly all the
questions by myself. Americans may be more outgoing, but like hell are we more
enthusiastic. Americans are some of the most indifferent and apathetic people on
the planet.
215片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/14(土) 12:12:22
>>213
There are lots of people [ who don't like to be the center of attention ].
I myself is not any one of them.
It's not easy [ to miss me ];
we do do stand out as an extroverts.
I am an arsonist [ who light fire of love into you aaaaass ].
I believe [ you are the one [ who is doomed to get toxin from me ].
Or [ if you mean someone who is bullied then lashes out ],
there are plenty of people like that ove the earth
Supposedly we are love angels on this planet.
216名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 13:03:06
>>214
Your story contradicts what teachers here say to their students.
Teachers moan about their shyness and try to make them more active by letting them know how American students
are energetic.

But this characteristic seems to be true of you.
I can share your feeling. When obvious questions are being ignored completely, I can't resist my temptation to ansewer.
217名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 14:07:48
But.. but.. 米人 is a groovy housewife.
218名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 14:28:25
I dropped in at a convenience store this morning where I found a health drink.
Since I was suffering from muscle ache, I decided to buy it, though it costed as much as 260 yen.
I now think it's contributing to my health to some degree.
219名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 14:40:12
One of the reason of my muscle pain must be that I spent a lot of time browsing obsene web pages
using a mobile phone.
220名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 14:49:40
It seems that spring is coming up, because wind smells of spring.
221名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 17:37:40
Yeah, today's really warm as if spring had just come.
But I guess it's just an exception today. The weather will go back to
winter mode again from tomorrow.

Then again, it's reported that a spring sign is observed, which is
yellow sands flied from the dessert in China. Strong wind vaccume sands
on the dessert up in the sky and they are carried by wind to Japan.
You can see sky is hazed because of the sand and the sky looks yellowish.

The sands land on the surface of a car parked outside and it looks
dirty.
222名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 17:40:39
I don't like sudden climate change. it makes me feel insecure and blue.

wind smells of spring

I can understand. how can i say... smell like warm weed.
223名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 17:44:01
>>222
You can be a police dog.
224名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 17:48:37
I strongly feel global warming is proceeding.
A decade ago, it was much colder than it's today.
I was astonished when I found a mosquito in my room last winter.
225名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 18:24:13
Can I trace the scent of suspect hoshijima, which
a police dog faled to detect or policemen failed to notice?
226金玉儿:2009/02/14(土) 20:52:31
>>219
Which part of your body do you feel a pain in?
It may possibly be a muscle of your penis?
The reason for your muscul pain is not because you spent a lot of time browsing obsene web pages
but because you have masturbated too much?

227名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 21:07:06
>>226
I've musturvated many many times so far but haven't experience my penis began to ache
due to hard work.
228名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 22:31:16
Your foreskin could have been callous.
229名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/14(土) 23:09:14
Happy Valentine's Day, Americans!
But hey, what are you guys growing in your backyard? Is this true or sheer bull?

Homegrown Jihad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8_82YGXJe0
230Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/15(日) 01:19:26
>>229

Gee, more terrorists wanting to destroy my country. What else is new.
lol
231米人:2009/02/15(日) 11:32:38
Happy Valentines Day!
Please help yourself to a chocolate...

I spent today helping my 7 year old daughter clean out and organize her
room...and we're still not done! She's a pack rat, just like my husband
and her room is full of junk (or treasures, depending on your POV).
Speaking of my husband, he and my son are in Maine with the Boy Scouts tonight,
sleeping in shelters made from snow that they built themselves.
We'll celebrate with chocolate fondue when they return, Sunday or Monday.
How did you spend your Valentines Day?
232米人:2009/02/15(日) 11:37:16
>>215 and >>226, maybe you should try sleeping in a snow cave too.
233Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/15(日) 12:03:45
>>231

Chocolate Fondue... ah, I wish I knew someone who knew how to cook.
234名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/15(日) 18:23:45
Valentine's day is nothing more than an oridnary day to me.
Two boxes of chocolate I got was from family member and ralative.
There's nothing romantic to it.

Christmas Eve (, which is considered a romantic day for Japanese couples)
and Valentine's days) are the most annoying day to me, who don't have
girlfriend.
235名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/15(日) 18:28:31
Hey you at least have a family and relatives to give you those.
236名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/15(日) 18:41:43
Yeah, maybe it's the matter of whether you see a cup as half full or half empty.
I'm a nagative person so I see my cup as half empty.
I'd like to have a toast with my cup full of love.
237名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/15(日) 20:17:54
I didn't do something which would make me happy on Valentine's Day.
High schoold boys would be looking forward to the day, expecting some attractive girls come near to and give
chocolates to them.(things don't go as they expected in most cases though.)

I spent the day just like a normal day except the fact that I was given chocolate by my mother.
I ate it up on receiving it from her^^;
238米人:2009/02/16(月) 00:29:57
We don't have the Valentine Day/White Day custom here, so anyone can
give a Valentines Day gift to anybody.
Most elementary school students here celebrate Valentines Day with a class
party, and everyone brings in valentines for everyone in the whole class.
(Usually these are cheap little cards with cartoon characters, and many people
put a small piece of candy in it).
But when you get to be an adult, then it turns into this big romantic deal,
which kind of takes the fun out of it for many people.
Yesterday, I read a most amazing letter written by a man to "Dear Abby" (advice
columnist) about how was sick of Valentines Day being only for couples, and
that we should revive the custom of giving valentines to everyone, just like
children do.
I must say I was impressed. Here is the link, if you want to read it:
ttp://www.uexpress.com/dearabby/?uc_full_date=20090214
239名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 03:06:50
>>238
I didn't know kids give a small Valentine gifts to every classmate in US.
I don't agree with your idea 100%.
It might be a good idea to give Valentine gifts and show affection
to loved ones even you are grown up.
But in reality, you don't feel so much affection to all of your coworkers.
You like some, you don't like some. So it's odd to give every coworkers
a present. Kids should be educated for them to get along well with each and
every classmate so the custom of giving a small candy to every classmate is good from
educational standpoint, but that idea can't be applied to grown-ups.

In Japan, as you may know, many female workers give chocolates to
their coworkers and bosses even if they aren't loved ones for them.
That type of chocolate is called "Giri choco," meaning something like
obligation chocolate. Some companies decided to ban the custom because
it is a burden to female workers and giving giri choco is just by
courtesy without any affection. I think this is a good move.
I buy the idea of giving chocolate or whatever on Valentines Day to your loved ones
such as your bf/gf, relatives, familiy members, people whom you really
feel affection to, but giving to coworkers just for obligation is odd.

We have custom of sending New Year's greeting cards to coworkers,
sending summer and year-end gift to boss in workplace.
Some companies told their workers to stop these customs anymore because
these customes are burdens to workers.
240名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 07:31:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCNPZsGQRxM&feature=related

I wonder if all English speakers can recognize his lyric.
The song doesn't sound English to me. Why?
241名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 08:10:13
my life is over\(^o^)/
242名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 10:16:36
>>238
I agree with your idea.
By distributing chocolates to everybody without discrimination, every one feels happy, and
doesn't have to suffer from unneccessary worries or despair.

I knew first that not only women but men can give presents on Valentine's Day.
If I gave chocolates to someone here, people would consider me to be pretty odd person.
243米人:2009/02/16(月) 10:58:09
>>240
He's singing in a reggae style. It sounds vaguely Jamaican, although the
singer is from Toronto. It's too fast for me to catch what he's saying.

>>239
That reminded me of one the dialogues in my Japanese textbook.
The clueless American (Johnson-san) gets very excited when a Japanese
co-worker gives him some chocolate on Valentine's Day until one of his
Japanese male coworkers tells him about giri-choco.
You're right; that would be a big pain to be obligated to give everyone chocolate.
I guess I would just give relatives & friends cards.

>>242
Men are lucky in Japan, they only have to give stuff to the women they
get something from. Unless they are really popular and get chocolate from
lots of women. That probably only happens in fiction though.

244名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 11:49:48
>>243
The text book sounds good introducing Japanese modern customs.

>Men are lucky in Japan, they only have to give stuff to the women they
get something from.

Today, girls tell a boy they're secretly in love with that she loves him face to face
or by writing a letter or something on any day but long time ago,
when that's not so common, Valentine's day was a once in a year opportunity
for her to muster up courage to show her love to a boy they love
by giving a chocolate. Even today, I think Valentine day serves as
a day for a shy girl to muster up her courage to ask a boy to go out
with her. Giving a serious chocolate with a letter to him can start
romance with him.

There are very popular high school students who get more than two
chocolates which aren't giri-choco but serious ones.

If he's not interested in any girls who give him chocolate, and decides
he'll go out with none of them, he doesn't gives anything in return
on "White Day" to any of them. If he decides to go out with one of them,
he starts seeing go with her from the day and gives something in return to her on White Day.
245名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 12:06:36
hey guys i've got no chocolate....... sad........
how many chocolates did you get???
246名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 12:12:35
>>244
Really? I think a person who was given chocolates by girls has to give something to every one of them in return
as a way of expressing his gratitude.
I don't have enough experiences to talk about this topic though.lol
247名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 12:18:05
>>245
Six.
I got a chocolate box from the relative, which contained six piece of small ones. So I got six ones.
Even the smartest person can't deny this fact.
248米人:2009/02/16(月) 12:57:19
>>244
We have a non-existent holiday here called "Sadie Hawkins Day" where
a woman can propose to a man. It is supposed to be on February 29th.
This pseudo-holiday comes from an old comic strip called "Lil Abner".
249名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 13:46:29
pls translate this 『超法規的措置』 in English
250名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 13:55:20
>>246
I was given only one serious chocolate by a girl when I was a high
school student. She was one of my classmates but I hadn't talked much with her.
She wasn't a cute girl (actually, she was kind of ugly. lol) but I gave her
something (I forgot what it was) to her on White Day because I thought ignoring her
would made her feel bad.

I told my friends about me giving her something in return. They all
said, "why did you do that? You didn't have to." I think I was a polite
boy. I couldn't run over her feeling to me.

She gave me a hand made chocolate with a letter. The letter said she wants to go out
with me. I handed her a letter with something. I wrote I've never imagined
going out with anybody. (That was true becasue I was shy in those days.) So, I can't go out with
you but thank you very much for your gift. I wrote 弓道 がんばって。
It was a few months later that I found out she belonged to 剣道部,
not 弓道部。This explains how much I didn't know about her. Uniforms
of 弓道 and 剣道 looks similar.
251名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 13:55:59
What she gave me was 8 pieces of chocolate in a box and on top of each piece,
one alphabet was written with edible addtives or something.
The eight alphabets were v, y, I, o, e, l, o, u. I didn't understand what
that meant first, but didn't take much time to understand what they meant.

I'm not boasting. Mind you, she was an ugly girl. But I have to admit that
even a present from an ugly girl like her made me feel proud of myself. hehe

>>248
Never heard of the comic. I guess American women aren't shy so they
don't need a pseudo-holiday like that. (Stereo type) But the concept
of pseudo-holiday is funny.

>>249
http://eow.alc.co.jp/%e8%b6%85%e6%b3%95%e8%a6%8f%e7%9a%84%e6%8e%aa%e7%bd%ae/UTF-8/
252名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 14:10:30
>>250
I think you made a right decision, and your friends were wrong.
We have to respect women, especially who are not so cute, for their great efforts
and courage!
253名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 14:14:00
Ugly women have every single right to live and I'm prond of my sophisticated attitude.
254名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 14:22:55
>>253
You need to be much more sophisticated to be called an admirable person.
255名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 14:32:15
If you are a school boy, you may be on pins and needles on the day
in the hopes that a girl to your liking would give you chocolate
even if she hasn't communicate with you so much.
Moreover, maybe you wish that a shy and submissive girl who was secretly in love with you
would abruptly appear in front of you from nowhere.
But I warn you that, Japanese girls are, in general, extremely clever, as far as the dating game.
She would at least try to ask you various questions beforehand,
if she wishes to give you her serious chocolate.
Actually, your Valentine's Day has already ended before it really starts.
It's predetermined harmony base on your past behavior.
But you can't notice this fact when you are a kid.
Eather that, or you just don't want to realize it.
Anyway, stop trying to be so nice only around the day.
256名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 14:34:17
>>254
Please, stop condemn ugly women for their ugliness. You are not nice.
257名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 14:44:40
>>256
What are you saying?
258名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 14:47:59
>>255
You are warning foreign high school boys?
259名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 14:54:28
>>257
Quit acting like you don't know what you are talking about. I've never met anyone so sexist like you!
260名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 15:08:41
>>259
I really couldn't realize what you meant because your post(256) are lack of information.
To begin with, what is your previous post, and who are you?
You should write more.
261名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 15:17:45
>>260
I'm every woman, it's all in me. Anything you want done baby.
262名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 17:50:28
>>251
thx
263名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/16(月) 22:07:50
>>243
Thanks.

>It's too fast for me to catch what he's saying.
Thank goodness. I thought I was the only one who was not able to catch it.
This led to popping up another question in mind.
I wonder if English speakers never fail to catch any dialect English, I mean like American people
and new zealanders have deffinetely no trouble understanding each other just because of accents (apart from specific words).
Just to make my point clear, concerning the japanese language, I don't think I can alway catch what dialect Japanese speakers say,
especially elderly people with strong accents. And I wonder something like this also applies to English speakers.
264イギリス人:2009/02/17(火) 08:00:02
>>263
I was watching some programme on the BBC about different religions, and
there was a section about evangelism. The priest they were interviewing
was from Tennessee, but it was so hard to understand him. They even gave
it English subtitles.


Tomorrow, I'm meeting up with my penfriend from just outside of Tokyo.
She's really helped me improve (and learn) my Japanese over the past three
years. But we've never actually met and she happens to be visiting the
country. This will be really embarrassing, because even after that long,
my Japanese is terrible.
265名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 12:36:40
Hi. It's been a while since I posted on this thread last time. Can I troll trolls trolling trolls again?

>>1
>cunning linguists
...um, do you know what you're talking about?
266Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/17(火) 13:50:56
Hi everyone I am a long time lurker and first time poster. I am a big 2ch fan and perhaps a bit of a nerd. I am also American.
( ・ω・) And that is my introduction. Hello everyone.
267名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 13:54:07
Evangelion was a superb anime, although I don't recall any character from Tennessee who speaks obscure English.
268Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/17(火) 13:59:03
( ・ω・) Speaking of Valentine's Day, I spent Valentine's Day weekend with my girlfriend! We had a great few days together.
I feel like most of the time on Valentine's Day people in America give their partner a small gift and card and then go out to eat. That seems to be customary.
269名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 14:00:14
>>268
Do you speak Japanese?
270名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 14:01:42
tera waross
271名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 14:18:29
hey!
He is our finance minister, Shouich Nakagawa, who appeared to be drunken during G7 meeting in Rome.
He denied having drunk before the meeting, and blamed cold medicines for his bad mental condition.
What do you guys think was the major cause of that ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odpgopHigUU&feature=related
272名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 14:21:34
Drugs + Alcohol = In Heaven
273名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 14:31:48
After waking up, he realized he's in hell.
274名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 14:53:46
>>271
So this guy and Americans are steering the world largest economies in this world-wide recession. Interesting.
275名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 15:05:57
>>264
Good to know you're alive and kicking, erecting to boot!
Why don't you mesmerize her with your perfect 2ch jargon.
Joking aside, don't feel ashamed of making mistakes with Japanese.
Even if you make any mistakes, your effort of trying to speak in Japanese
give her good impression. Making mistakes isn't something you should be afraid
of. They can be an icebreaker.

I guess you two won't feel like you meet for the first time after years of
corresponding. Are you nervous?

>>265
How long were you away from here?

>>266
Hi. welcome to a club for perverts. You can come and chat anytime you like.
No more lurking. So, you have girlfriend. That's an exception here.
276Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/17(火) 16:55:41
>>268
I can speak a little. I have visited Japan a few times and have taken lessons but I've gotten bad about it in the past year. I cannot read very much due to kanji.
>>275
( ・ω・) Don't worry, I'm still a pervert too. I have a girlfriend under strange predicaments I think. I am a reclusive person sort of.
277名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 19:02:50
Do you know the news that UFO plunged into Texas land with burning ?
278名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 20:29:28
>>264
I see. All kidding aside, I've always wondered if British people and American people (English speaking ones)
seemed to have no trouble understanding. To me, both of them have quite different accents. And since I'm used to
American accents (probably standard ones), when I watch Harry Potter, it always come home to me that I can't seem to
make out what they were saying.

>>266
Why have you been lurking so far?
You're under obligation to post at least 3 times a day. Haha

>>276
Kanji might be the most difficult and troublesome to learners of the Japanese language, except for Chinese speakers.

>>277
No, I don't. Can you give me the link to the news article?
279名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 20:36:20
I'm very tired today...
It's really "saiaku" thing that I had been sleeping during the important meeting...

Surely, I'm workaholic. I want to sleep more!
280名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 21:07:55
>>278
OK. Here is the link.
This is the Unidentified Flying Object showed up in the Texas sky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roqm1ofUFko
281金玉儿:2009/02/17(火) 21:23:00
>>279
I'm very tired recently too.
I have a pain on my penis and my testicles are sore.
It is because of the masturbation poisoning that is raging now.
I thnk I'll masturbate like a mad beast and stay in bed till I feel better.
282ギリギリ君 ◆D1A7cJqOrA :2009/02/17(火) 21:26:27
I have found a Japanese member of Hell's Angels.

As you know, Hell's Angels is not only a motorcycle club but is also a kind of a gang group.

I thought that Japanese people could not enter it because it is also a kind of a white supremacist group.

the Japanese member's website
http://www.fuki81.com/history/index.html
283名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 21:42:19
>>280
Thanks. I thought the UFO might be something like flat and round flying stuff, I mean, the thing that appears in E.T?
Seems I misunderstood this time. It's speculated that it's debris of the American satellite that clashed against the russian one, right?

>>282
>Hell's Angels
I've never heard of it. Why did you bring it up so sudden?
I can't follow the thread.
284名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 21:59:03
>>283
I intentionally called it UFO to imply ET's crafts!

Well, that was not the debris of the satellite, which was created by the collision a few days ago.
According to experts, that was a meteor.
It is quite natural to assume that fireball was a debris, considering short interval after the collision., though.
285名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 22:19:08
>>284
Meteor?
Did it actually hit the ground, by the way?
Or did it just burn out before it clashed? From what I saw on the video you put the link to,
I think the meteor seemed both about to collide and about to disappear from the heat. I don't know.
286名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 22:37:22
>>285
I don't know either.
But I guess it copletely burn out before attacked buildings or forests in Texas,
because I heard no reports about catastrophe there.
I certainly want to know detailed information about it.
287ギリギリ君 ◆D1A7cJqOrA :2009/02/17(火) 22:59:37
やべ〜よ。
このスレも例の自演野郎に乗っ取られたなw
288名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 23:03:51
>>286
Ok. I don't think this could happen, but what if the meteor thing was fake?
It just occured to me that someone wanted to surprise people with it.
289名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 23:20:13
ヽ( ・∀・)ノ They should investigate the possibility of it being a burning piece of UNKO that some alien dropped.
290Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/17(火) 23:22:05
>>278
( ・ω・) Understood sir, three posts a day it is!
>>280
w I don't know if you guys look at the comments but youtube comments are always good for a laugh. The English is usually very bad but it's still funny. Take this one for example:
"u people r fucking dumb space doesnt end we arnt the only ones out there it was a ufo y do u think the government covers up everything so the world doesnt freak out god.......who cares they dont do n e thign to us ne ways"
He is so angry and adamant about ufos existing and the government conspiring even though it is ridiculous.

As a note: UFO doesn't have to mean an alien like ET. It actually means "Unidentified Flying Object" so it can be anything. It is usually used in reference to aliens though.
291Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/17(火) 23:49:30
Remember that saying... "arguing on the internet is like participating in the
Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a retard."

I remember that every time I'm about to try and prove someone wrong on the internet
and stop myself before I look like an idiot.
292名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/17(火) 23:54:10
>>291
>"arguing on the internet is like participating in the
>Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a retard."
I say amen to this.
293名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 00:04:51
>>288
Surely there're numerous fake movies especially as to UFOs, but in this case that is very unlikely because I gained the information from abc news!

>>290
Yeah, reading youtube comments is interesting. I often pay attention to how viewers feel and think.
As to the comments, does he say that seriously or kind of joke?
I don't have a skill to read between line.--
294名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 00:07:49
>>291
The saying gives us great lesson.
295片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/18(水) 00:24:21
Finance Minister Shoichi Nakagawa,
[ who has denied [ being drunk ] ],
offered his resignation late Tuesday after earlier in the day
[ saying [ he would stay on [ until after parliament approves the budget for the fiscal year,
probably in late April ] ] ].
296名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 00:25:04
What does AMERICAN DREAM mean today?
297名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 00:44:24
>>291
I like that phrase. I'd like to keep an appropriate distance from an argument on the internet, too.
This board especially let us go on many nonproductive debates and its anonymity became a lisence to lie though.
298名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 01:40:12
I was watching an American movie on NicoVideo the other day.
"Airplane!"
In Japan, it was called "航空機!".
It had Japanese subtitles, but even I can tell that a lot of the dialogue wasn't translated exactly.
I can't blame the translators, though. A lot of the jokes were untranslatable.
English puns.
That sort of thing.

Still, when I watch fansubbed Japanese television, the jokes I like the most are those kinds of jokes--
The ones that don't translate into English, and the translator has to stick a note at the top explaining it.
For some reason, I really like those jokes, even more than the ones that work in either Japanese or English.

I must be odd.
299名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 01:50:25
>>276
> I have a girlfriend under strange predicaments

I wonder what you mean by this? And If you're really reclusive, then
it's impossible to get a girlfriend except that you go out with her
only on the Internet if you say it's going out. But you said you ate out with your gf on Valentine's
day.... No clues.
300Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/18(水) 02:33:56
>>296

A house, lawn, dog, and a good job. It hasn't really changed. It is generally to
just not live in poverty.
301Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/18(水) 02:42:09
Lol how low is the DJIA and Nasdaq going to go before it bottoms out? Every speculator
has been saying for months now that the market has bottomed out and we should see recovery
soon, but it just keeps sinking further. It's been a few months since the DJIA has been this low.

Obama tried to raise it by putting out good news everyday when he first got into office,
but that just creates artificial raises which will inevitably sink back down.

I hear that Japan's market-weighted indexes are in bad shape too.
302名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 03:01:03
>>301
Read your post, checked Google Finance, loled at today's another free fall.

What's going on in the US economy? Japan's economy is pretty much dead already and it can't be helped because we don't have natural resources at all.
Some say IT and other technology nonsense would save us. But in reality it's never going to happen. Japan actually sucks at them.
But why US? Have Americans banks really been dicking around, hiding their weakness, for decades?
303Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/18(水) 03:08:38
>>302

People fearing recession -> which turns into them putting stop and stop loss
orders -> which causes the prices to lower -> which causes the index to lower.
The good thing is that some stocks become undervalued due to this. I just think it
is funny how the indexes have been plummeting a lot lately solely on insignificant
bad news or speculation.
304名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 03:17:53
>>303
Is that some vicious circle? Then maybe stocks will come full circle. Or maybe it's time I started to learn a third language so I can get by when the US fails.
Hmm, do you think Chinese is any good?
305名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 04:22:26
tell me what's wrong with this

http://cgi.2chan.net/m/src/1233396823249.jpg
306名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 04:25:21
>>305
He has a sense of humor. I'd like to become his friends.
307名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 04:31:08
>>305
The teacher gave him 10, obviously. Don't know if he got full marks, but it seems reasonable if you ask me.
308名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 05:38:02
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e9d_1234790195

Watch this vid. I wonder why the man grabbed the woman's boob?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e9d_1234790195
309Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/18(水) 05:42:47
>>293
It's serious. Most people on youtube are just regular internet users not the kind that are advanced enough to be a troll.
>>299
( ・ω・) I'm not a REAL recluse as in I still go out for school and such. I just like to spend time in doors a lot and am sort of a nerd so it's just strange that I have a girlfriend I think. She is a real life girlfriend not an internet one!
310名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 09:12:24
"Korean Problem Solving Flowchart"

             Start Here
                 
              "Is it a   
               good
               thing ?"
            ┌──┴──┐ 
            YES       NO
            ↓        ↓
          Korea    "Can you
         invented    blame an
            it      inferior ?"
                 ┌──┴──┐
                 ↓        ↓
                YES       NO
                 ↓        ↓
               Problem   "Did it
                Solved    happen
                        before
                        1945 ?"
                      ┌──┴──┐
                     YES       NO
                      ↓        ↓
                   It's Japan's  It's America's
                     fault !      fault !
311名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 09:49:21
>>304
Come to the "East Asia" board of 2ch. You can learn a lot about finance and
get a new insight into the monetary system(s). Some of the posters there have
absolutely broad knowlege on that. Surprisingly, some specialist in finance has been
analysing data. I guess you'll be shocked to see China is walking on the thin ice in terms of
money. Come quick and see the truth.
312Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/18(水) 10:42:59
>>311
Are there many economists in Japan? I remember hearing that in Japanese college they don't offer specific majors but rather broader majors so you would be a Mathematics major rather than Economist. Is this true?
313名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 10:52:19
The Japanese drunk financial minister was forced from his post due to that press conference on the other day,
and share prices on the Tokyo Stock Exchange took a beating.
I don't know why he must be so much as to resign. Indeed, he gave a bad account of himself, but in fact, he was very competent financial expert.
Investors were honest, contrary to the media.
314名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 11:20:18
>>312
I'm not so sure those self-procraimed "Economists" are trustworthy, especially those on TV (I'm talking about the Japan's case).

In Japan, people can be certified to become financial expert if they have knowledge and pass certain national exams.
And several people of such sort happened to post in 2ch.
Compared to Japanese Massmedia, they only believe in objective data analysis and lead to conclusion.
That's why they are far trustworthy. Among them, two guys have some finance books published, and one of them started
practicing finance. That was sort of surprising. Now is the time we can kick corrupt media.

>>313
Agreed. The biggest problem is, they don't report what he's done.
They only loved to find fault with him. Crap.
315Tony:2009/02/18(水) 11:42:55
A lot of economists just make things up
316名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 12:03:12
>>315
It's because most of them are not independent from the corporate they work for.
They need to manupulate economy in favor of their company.
317名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/18(水) 12:44:39
Of course, what terrifies me the most is that this current crisis is being
used by the international Left as an excuse to EXPAND government
spending, even though this crisis was a direct result of government
having too strong a hand in private businesses and forcing banks
to make loans at untenable rates.
318名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/19(木) 01:56:32
>>245
i learned for the first time that jim carrey was canadian.
But his humor sense must be no differenct from american.
i don't like him. he is so self-conscious and overacting.
his facial expression and gestures annoy me.

he reminds me of eminem. i can't explain well but something is
in common.

319名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/19(木) 05:36:52
>>318
I think the same thing.
However, he isn't so bad in his more dramatic roles.
Even though he was still a little goofy, I liked him in The Truman Show.
320イギリス人:2009/02/19(木) 10:26:31
>>278
We don't usually have a problem understanding most American accents and
dialects, but occasionally something unusual will come along. Just like I
imagine most Americans would have a problem understanding people from Glasgow
or Newcastle (because we find it hard enough).

>>275
Was very nervous at first, but it went pretty well. Learned many things.
My Japanese is much worse than I thought it was (but now have incentive to
practice more). I'm a "cat's tongue". And Japanese people who have never
left the country (her cousin) seem to find hugging VERY awkward.
321名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/19(木) 13:34:49
British people should refrain from hugging and kissing at train doors!
322アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/02/19(木) 14:22:13
test
323アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/02/19(木) 14:29:47
Goddamn.
Hey all, long time no see. I'm way behind in reading all the posts, so sorry
if someone replied to my last post and I didn't respond. I had a long weekend
so I went up to New York City for the past few days to look at New York University
and Columbia University. I was hoping I'd be able to post here using my cousin's
internet but his ISP is blocked as well.

Funny story: According to http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/16/AR2009021601565.html?hpid=sec-tech moot, the creator of 4chan.org, is applying to both NYU and Columbia
for next year, so maybe I'll run into him if we end up at the same school lol.

So how's everything here? I see the dismal economy spawned some discussion.
Not good news for college scholarships =(
324名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/19(木) 14:49:08
Are you a Muggle?
325Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/19(木) 15:25:32
>>323
( ・ω・) Hello. Are you applying for college this year? What colleges are you looking at?
326名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/19(木) 15:58:39
>>323
Good afternoon, Mr. America jinn.
It's surprising that the creator of 4chan is such a young boy. 
Please let him post here if you could make friend with him(・o・)
327名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/19(木) 18:12:40
I just talked to my american friend and she said they dont say "proper"which means 適切な in america
and british are more likely to say it.
I didnt know that. I had felt right with proper for 適切な.
but she said they say "right" instead of "proper" in america.
like "Do a right thing." not "Do a proper thing."
What else can i say besides "right" in american english?
328名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/19(木) 21:41:15
So it felt proper to say 'proper'?

"Correct" is OK sometimes, but a lot of Americans use "right" more often. "Proper" is uncommon, but it is still used.
329名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/19(木) 21:49:28
I saw somewhere in a book that, "appropriate" isn't a good word
for meaning something "proper". There wan't an explanation about
why it's not appropriate. I thought the reason why it's not
appropriate is because it's a bigger word than proper.
Could anyone give me a good explanation why it's not proper?
330名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/19(木) 22:20:07
OLL Korrect LOL
331名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/19(木) 22:28:58
You read some weird books. 'Appropriate' is fine, but again, it's uncommon outside of formal or business usage.

I guess for general conversation, it might be a little pretentious, but it should still be OK.

332名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/19(木) 22:36:35
Are you sure you're an American?
333名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 02:09:38
>>182
Actually I had read that web side before you read.
I had the same impressions as you had.
Eventhough he is not japanese as you pointed out but japanese American,
he is still non-white asiastic race.
>it is also a kind of a white supremacist group.
yes. In wikipedia it is explained that hell's angels membership is limited
to white people only. (oh, now the description of the requirement being white
is dropped from wikidepia. But it must be a tacit agreement in their circle)
I wonder why and how Mr.Fuki succeeded in entering Hell's Angels.
We can see typical american white chicks in Fuki's site.
I guess that in general white thugs are prone to be offended by a asian surrounded by
white chicks.

There is a biker-gang group which has international chapters which
include non-white nation.
The name is banditto? Correctly Bandidos. I saw a group of non-white
bikers on their web site.

Motorcycle clubs, especially like Hell's Angels seem to be
gang or mafia in reality, bike lovers on the surface.
In japan biker gang(暴走族) is regarded as one gate to yakuza
or inferior to yakuza. I guess most people will proceed to professions
other than yakuza though.
I wonder whether biker gangs in America can be attacked by professional gangs or
both usually keep off each other.
334名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 02:10:06
Anchor mistake. >>282
335名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 02:22:34
I'm a japanese. But biker gang style really matchs with
white people.
Japanese biker clubs and people of those ones looks like joke.
Some are too short for riding harley!
Short stature and short legs. I want to say in Japanese "バイクに乗せられてる"
or "バイクに負けてる".
Literally "he is ridden by a bike" or "bike overwhelms him".
336名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 06:00:11
>>320
Yeah, we have the expression "cat's tongue," meaning a person who
has cat's tongue can't drink hot drink whose temperature actually
is not so high and is suitable for drinking.

>>325
If I remember correctly, his first choice is USC. His second choice include
Ivy league on the east coast. He's done with all processes regarding
USC application and waiting for the result. Whatever university he'll go
he's going to major in Scientrogy or Scatology. That's what I read here.
337Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/20(金) 07:05:39
Do people in Japan still like Emily (applemilk) from youtube? If so, why? I've never really understood it.
338名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 07:28:14
>>337
If you don't like her, why not?

Without biased ideas, she is a good looking girl with gorgeous body.
That's why some people like her. Some Japanese are atrracted by her
becasue she speaks Japanese.

What Japanese people get about her facts and figures are from what's written
and spoken in Japanese by her. Some Japanese people may know her what's called
e-begging, some not.

Nick writes about her in his blog and quite a lot of people gather there,
comment about her. I don't know what Emily's personality is like, which
from what I read in his blog doesn't seem to be commendable.

I would say some people in Nick's blog is jealous of her being able to live in Japan.
Quite a lot of people commented abuot her figure saying she has love handle or what not,
but those comments are rediculous. She has gorgeous body, actually.
Her body is on the high end of bikini models. I would say her figure is
almost perfect.

Do I like her? Not really but I don't understand why Nick's blog gather
such readers.
339名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 07:52:48
>>337
Believe or not, Emily seems to still have a small fanbase predominantly comprised of her avid Japanese
worshippers, despite her current questionable words and deeds. I don't really care too much about e-celebs
or those dramas evolving around them, but I can reasonably assume that few Japanese people even know about her.
340名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 07:55:06
I'm filled with anxiety.
Now the economic downturn caused by global financial crisis is becoming worse rapidly.
Unemployment of the United States is skyrocketing, and what's more,
it will certainly influence Japanese labor market.
It is not difficult to predict that a good many people are likely to lose their job.
My primary concern is the augmentation of the suicide rate.
People who are suffering from paying off housing loan must be distressed about making ends meet.
I hope the recession will recover soon!
341名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 11:39:50
I have almost no interest in this Emily girl. And she's not so famous in Japan
except for a limited number of people here. Bad news to you?
342名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 12:51:45
American girls love to squint and talk with curl lips to make them look sexy or
cool, don't they?
Emiley is the one to come up with.
343名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 13:47:20
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3283/2657284362_506f7c7d98.jpg?v=0
I don't know why such a facial expression is called lip-curling.
When I first heard lip-curling, I imaged protruding or
pouting lips. In this case lips are curling above and below
looking from the side.
344名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 14:10:05
I realized I couldn't join in your conversation. Farewell〜.
345名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 14:23:42
No you can!
346名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 14:31:50
>>345
Do you mean "Yes, you can!"?
347名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 15:23:45
>>346
Either is acceptable usage.
The "no" is used as a direct negation of the previous statement, and what follows is what the speaker wishes to declare.
Putting "yes" is a way to doubly affirm the declaration, while the negation is contextually implied (as that usage can also be used to show agreement).
348名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 16:25:37
>>347
Then I gotta punch my English teacher in the face. Ugh! He only teaches me engrish.
349名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 17:42:01
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3283/2657284362_506f7c7d98.jpg?v=0
meaning curling lips (inside) our mouths?
350名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 21:45:15
>>339
What did she actually say and do ?
I once heard somewhere in 2ch that her personality was very bad.
I'm not partuculary concerned about her, but I'm a bit interested in what she did and disappointed her fans.(・o・)
351名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 23:12:38
>>350
Long story short, she made a video clip that claims she would go to a university but doesn't have enough money,
and she requested donations from her viewers for that purpose. Technically, there's nothing wrong or illegal about it,
but she's never mentioned school or exams since then and shut down the comment function for the video.
Instead, she keeps reporting about the band she formed in Japan and her days of band practice. Again, I don't
really care what she does, but I could imagine her fans who pitched some change towards her tuition wonder where
the money went.
I'm fully aware this is a very stale way of enjoying gossip, so don't dis me on this one. I'm just replying.
352名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 23:30:44
She had just collected the money lied to go to university?
What a bitch.
She deserve to be arrested to prison.
353名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/20(金) 23:35:46
did people actually give her moeney?
354名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 00:03:47
>>351
She is a fraud literally if the donation was used for another irrelevant thing. Peaple who gave her money should indict her.
By doing it, they might be able to meet her actually at a cout...
355名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 00:22:50
more importantly,
what kind of morons actually send money to some teenager on youtube?
356名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 00:51:11
I remembered the fact that I'm going to university by the help of a scholarship,
and I found there would be no neccessity of offering donations to go to university.
Just beause she is a bit cute, it doesn't mean telling a lie can be justified.

In retrospect, I've never heard someone demanded money just to go to university...
She made use of her beauty to exploit fan's property! What a sly girl!

This is a great lesson.
357名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 01:54:38
Asking for donation for the benefit of personal goal is more common in US but we Japanese aren't
familiar with it. If a person who's asking for donation is suffering
from a serious desease and has no money to be hospitalized or to go
through surgery or anything, then Japanese people feel sorry about her
and some people might donate some money.

But in case of Emily, I just thought why do I have to give some money
for her tuition. Lots of Japanese people apply for scholarship or
work hard part-time after getting into university to pay university
tuition.

One organization supports students who lost their parent(s) because of traffic
accidents and can't afford to go to uni. I don't mind donating some money for them.

Emily on the other hand, doesn't seem like being thrifty. She goes to
Starbucks often, buys whatevery she wants rainging from video games,
CDs to nice clothes. All she has to do now is settle for coffee sold
in vending machine instead of expenisive Starbucks, sell CDs and video
games. She has to earn some money on her own if she's serious about going to university.
Asking for donation without making any effort? Give me a break.
358名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 01:57:48
Who is Emily anyway?
359名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 02:41:27
Emily is a youtuber who speaks decent Japanese.
She lives in Japan now.
While she went to Japanese language school while working as a model in Japan.
She says model but actually some people call it a soft core porn.
360名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 02:47:02
Now she quit the modeling job.
She made a two piece band trying to debut in Japan's music industry.
361名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 02:57:07
I'd like to talk with a very pretty, beautiful, and gentle teen girl on the Internet.
I wanna be taught how to talk in English if possible.
Dose anyone know how to find such a girl ?
362名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 03:19:09
>>361
米人 here is your perfect language exchange partner except she's not
a teenager.
363名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 03:26:17
>>361
I have thouht all of us are Japanese.
364名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 03:26:51
thouht -> thought
365名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 03:32:36
>>362
If I remember correctly, her zodiac thingy says she's vain.
It may not that big a problem for him though.
366名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 03:59:02
I'm sure there's no such gorgeous women like 米人 on the east coast of
America. West coast? Maybe some of the women on the west coast and
in the Great Plain are as hot as her.

I bet she's one of the hottest women in their forties in America.
Do you know why the Statue of Liberty doesn't face Boston? That's because
the Statue of Liberty gets jeralous of 米人's beauty.
367Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/21(土) 04:16:04
A woman at a store not far away from here was sexually assaulted by a man
in the parking lot.

I wish I could have been there when it happened so I could have personally beat
the shit out of that guy.
368名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 04:30:13
>>367
Well, I only wish the predator wasn't there so it would haven't happened.
Granted that you could have saved her, but it doesn't change the fact that she had a terrible experience. I think an attempt alone can be terrifying enough to devastate her happy life.
369名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 05:36:04
>>367
I guess 4channelers aren't athlete type and even if you had been there,
you would have been beaten to death.
370名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 05:39:00
>>369
Didn't you know 4chan has /fit/ and /sp/?
371名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 05:40:29
>>370
What's the /fit/ and /sp/ thing?
372名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 05:42:52
And it's got /k/ too, though I think true anons are the kind of faggot who would videotape it, fap twice, and then post the vid on /b/.
373名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 05:44:17
>>371
/fit/ - Health & Fitness
/sp/ - Sports
/k/ - Weapons
374名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 05:47:54
>>373
Thanks. Then some are as big as a battleship?
4chan is an image board so they take photos of their body and
show off them in /fit/?

I can't imagine popular guys who play football at school are browsing 4 chan.
375名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 05:54:53
>>374
I don't think jocks or alpha males would browse 4chan either.
But it doesn't mean Tennessean is a skinny weakling who couldn't save her.
376名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 06:05:03
I've just checked /fit/ and saw some people showing off their bodies.
They have great build enough to counter attack molester.

I'd challenge Tennessean to a sumo bout or two.^^
377名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 07:22:55
http://www.kukinews.com/news2/article/view.asp?page=1&gCode=soc&arcid=0921197468&code=41121111 (Korean news)
http://gimpo.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/news4plus/1235139823/l50 (2ch thread)

According to the Korean newspaper, many Korean girls are flying to America after Bush agreed on Korean entering America with no visa
and in order to enter the country without fail, they ask (Korean) doctors to issue a certificate of being phisically challenged and sitting in a wheelchair
to make sure American people will be nice to them. They say that American people let them claim baggage without pain (no waiting)
and so they take advantage of American conscience. After they pull through, they stand up and start walking out of the airport.
The newspaper says that the problem is, such girls go to America because they are going to
work as prostitute in LA.

____________________________________________________________
Wow, hang in there, America..
378Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/21(土) 07:39:18
I have a lot of experience in live fighting. I'm not saying I'd win for sure,
but I think I have a much better chance than someone with little to no experience. Being a
lot stronger than me doesn't matter if you have never actually thrown a punch at someone
before (or taken one, for that matter). Win or lose, I would still have tried to take the
criminal down on principle.
379名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 07:48:17
Boasting about having lots of live fighting experiences is based on DQN mentality and what's not
praised for.

Having lots of live fighting experiences means either you aren't good enough
to solve problems without relying on phisical fights or you are a kind
of person who tend to put yourself in danger situations where you have to
rely on physical fights.

In a nutshell, this kind of person have a low crisis management skill.
380名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 08:13:48
I guess this is what we call a cultural difference, but these posts >>367 >>378 sound extremely stupid to me and, I think, to most of Japanese.
Apparently he'd sound differently in his culture.
It seems there's a lot more than grammar and vocabulary when it comes to learning language.
381名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 08:15:17
My wink is the most powerful weapon.
Anybody who are winked at by me falls down on the spot.

Even a raging bull is neutered once I wink at it.
382名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 08:21:03
>>380
European, but agree with you.
383名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 08:21:16
To me, >>367 sounds like a man of justice.
But >>378 sounds a little bit stupid because he tries to show
how many living fight experiences he has.

But the reason why he tried to prove he's physically tough is that
I implied 4chanellers are physically weak. So I don't blame >>378 that much.
384名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 08:21:38
>>381
The whole world is waiting for your vid on youtube.
385名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 08:25:18
>>384
I learned throguh e-learning course how to overwhelm a raging bull just by winking.
386名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 08:28:26
you guys' english is so low level..... are you all japanese middle school student?
you should laern english from I very good english.
my english are perfect american real like amreican persan's english.
I studyed very hard english because, I know you envy me. Do your best english.
387名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 08:30:36
>>386
You don't sound look like the best troll.
388名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 08:32:27
>>387
At least he managed to troll one person right there.
389名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 08:34:22
Ooopps. He got me.
390名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 08:49:05
By the way, I think trolling native speakers on the internet are one of efficient ways to learn language.
Some responds to my stupid posts in "bad" language and some try to educate me by using polite words.
It's better if you sock puppet to support your stupid posts in polite, educated language.
Retards keep yelling at me, and patronizing fags remain polite so you can learn two different registers of your target language.
On top of that, those trolled speak sincerely and voluminously, which is difficult in real life.

I do this everywhere and it sure improved my English. What do you think?
391名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 08:57:42
>>378
Quick, Tennesean! Save her before it gets 404'd!! YOU CAN DO IT!!1!

http://zip.4chan.org/a/src/1235173992646.jpg
392Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/21(土) 09:23:23
>>379

What do you mean by DQN mentality?

I don't think you know what it is like to live in a place where crime actually
exists. For example, say a man starts running towards you with a knife and plans
on mugging you? Are you going to talk him out of it when he is already sprinting?
That happened to me a few years ago.

This may not be the case in Japan, but in a lot of places in America, there is a
chance you may be assaulted at any moment. In fact, as I was saying earlier, a woman
was assaulted just down the street this morning.

If you acknowledge that you may be attacked and decide to not fight no matter what
as a matter of being a pacifist, then disregard my previous comment.
393名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 09:33:47
>>392
Scary... A country like that is preaching around the world that their political system called democracy is superior so every country should follow suit...
I'm really lucky to have been born in Japan.
394名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 09:36:06
395名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 09:53:18
Hm. Americans are assaulted by peers when walking in their own country and by muslims when traveling overseas.
Being American seems to be rough and tough.
Far be it from me to say what they should do, but it might be worth considering for US to follow example of Canada.
396名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 10:06:15
>>393
I can't agree more! There are many people who are complaining their circumstances.
They should know their distance.
397名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 10:23:06
It is very scary to fight against men in western countries because people there are generally big and physically strong.
Well, I personaly admire such a brave person as don't mind being injured in order to help the weak.
I would intervine and stop them when I see here men abusing girls or animals.
398名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 11:52:21
This thread is always consumed faster while I am sleeping.
399片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/21(土) 12:05:21
Diamond rocks are all over around Jesus Christ [ who is your true Savior ].
So go back to Him.
Surrender to Him.
400Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/21(土) 12:11:36
>>393

It is like that all over the world, man. Actually, us Americans have it really
easy compared to many other places in the world. I hear there have been quite a
few racial genocides in Africa within the past decade or so.

I have a friend who used to live in the country of Haiti. One day he was in the
car driving to his grandparent's home or something when suddenly the car in front
of his was pulled over by two men with assault rifles. They forced the lady out of
the car, one of them smashed her teeth in with his weapon, took her car, and left
her on the street. It really is a dangerous world outside of our nice, rich little
bubbles.
401アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/02/21(土) 12:13:45
Test
402名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 12:18:40
>>392
DQN refers to immature school thug/gangsta type of people, or just
immature grownups who still have that kind of mentality after
graduating from school. That sort of people...
They like to talk about their real fight experience and whatnot and how they
can beat someone up.
It has nothing to do with pacifism. Not that I think you are one of those people
though, I just exxplained what DQN is.
403片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/21(土) 12:22:20
It is like that all over the world, man.
Actually, you Americans have it really easy
compared to many other places in the world.
I know there have been quite a few racial genocides in Africa within the past decade or so.
You have a friend who used to live in the country of Haiti.
One day he was in the car driving to his grandparent's home or something
when suddenly the car in front of his was pulled over by two men with assault rifles.
They forced the lady out of the car,
one of them smashed her teeth in with his weapon, took her car, and left her on the street.
It really is a dangerous world outside of your nice, rich little bubbles.

404片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/21(土) 12:24:18
Your American world is dangerous as well.
In the past decade or so, there were too many gun firings at schools or on streets.
405片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/21(土) 12:26:11
Dokyuns are rascals who play their living.
406名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 12:27:59
>>401
Hi, アメリカ人. I'm glad your test post was accepted.
But this doesn't mean your next post will also succeed, is it?
407アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/02/21(土) 12:31:45
Haha I can post using my neighbor's wifi connection and my iPod touch!
Typing is pretty easy so this is ten times easier then getting a damn proxy
to work.

Regarding violence in America I can only talk about my personal
experiences. Around my school some kids have been mugged
but they're leaving late after sports practices. My school once had
a problem where someone kept pretending to be a student and stole
a lot of stuff. The worst was when during class the principle announced
there was an escaped convict in the area.

I think USC is my top choice then NYU, Columbia and Cornell University.
I got 2 letters yesterday, one saying I got accepted to RIT(decent school)
and a letter from WPI(I was excepted a few weeks ago) saying I got
60grand in merit scholarship over 4 years. That's a really good offer
but WPI is far and away my last choice...
408名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 13:08:05
neighbors wifi connection? are you hijacking someone's internets?
409名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 13:12:53
>>407
I've already known that you're a smart boy before I read 407.

It can be said that ou are deserved to being offered merit scholarship, because
there are not so many people who can write and express their own opinion as well as you,
considering you're still in your teens.

I'm pround of there being such a competent English speaker like you here!
410名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 14:27:34
Emergency news.
Three suspects who killed an anti Russian government journalist were sentensed they were innocent.
411Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/21(土) 14:38:01
>>380
No offense to Tennessean but yeah you're right he sounds stupid (and I'm American). It's pretty easy to see what he's trying to say about himself.
>>407
( ・ω・) That's cool! I applied to Cornell as well. However, I don't think I will end up going there. I always hear bad things about how competitive it is. I wonder if that's true.
412アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/02/21(土) 16:18:20
>>411
Yea plus Cornell has a huge Greek scene which I'm not really into.
What are you interested in studying?

I'd like to direct those who have known me for longer to this article
www.japanprobe.com/?p=8904
413名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 17:32:16
Wow, he's an epic hentai.
414名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 17:35:30
Even though アメリカ人 also has a fetish toward panties, that Japanese povert is overwhelming
against him.
He has as many as thousand panties. (lady's only)
415名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 17:58:48
>>413
At the end of the day and at this moment in time, I personally feel that, with all due respect, it’s not epic.
416名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 18:18:55
>>415
I bet you have 3200 panties to sniff at hand.
417名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 19:02:48
>>411
Since you mentioned Emily first, can I ask your take on Emily?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGA2hy9NM7c

Mine? Of course it's BS.
418名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 19:07:20
>>417
So she's the Emily you've been talking about.
For some reason I sensed a certain amount of emoness in her.
I'd hit that nonetheless though.
419名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 19:33:21
>>418
You can buy her DVD to support her. Don't know if that would help her save up for school,
but pretty sure it's gonna be one of the rarest DVDs since it'll probably be discontinued soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJXZgv1e4Tg
420名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 19:40:13
>>417
Some people seem to talk about donations for her university tuition out of frustration.
I think Emily is feeling scared and on the brink of bankruptcy.
It's time for Emily lovers to save her!
421名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 19:54:57
When I saw her movie of Pikachu bread, I was somehow attracted by her cute face and charisma.
But it is not until I pushed the link on above posts that I realized she has lost her charm.
422名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 19:56:34
アメリカ人 might pass on her panties but Tennessean will beat the crap out of them anyway.
423名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 20:09:48
>>422
Who do you imply by them?
424名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 20:17:35
>>423
Poeple making Emily feel scared and on the brink of whatever.
425名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 20:16:28
>>419
Slut.

...ah, I just realized this strange thing.
When I hear the word "slut" in English, it's a very very strong word and sounds extremely rude.
I'd never say it in real life unless she's cheating on me or something.
But I don't think the Japanese equivalents such as だらしない女 and あばずれ are as offensive.
Certainly I wouldn't say those words either in a normal situation, but they could be used as a joke if she's your friend.

The same goes for some other offensive words.
Calling someone a "racist" sounds extremely offensive, but 人種差別主義者 sounds less offensive to me for some reason.

Come to think of it, I just found there are more striking examples.
Who cares if a person is 無神論者 or 不可知論者?
I suspect some Japanese adults don't know what those words mean,
but it seems words "atheist" and "agnostic" could be sometimes provocative, which is surprising if said in Japanese.

You call me a sexist? I take it as an offense.
You call me a 男女差..., um, I don't even know what the Japanese equivalent of "sexist"!
Is 男女差別主義者 a word?? I don't know.
Actually I looked in my dictionary and found 性差別主義者 is the proper term.
I don't think I heard this word more than twice in real life.

Could you let me know your opinion? I appreciate comments from both Japanese and people of different cultures.
426名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 20:17:36
>>419
Slut.

...ah, I just realized this strange thing.
When I hear the word "slut" in English, it's a very very strong word and sounds extremely rude.
I'd never say it in real life unless she's cheating on me or something.
But I don't think the Japanese equivalents such as だらしない女 and あばずれ are as offensive.
Certainly I wouldn't say those words either in a normal situation, but they could be used as a joke if she's your friend.

The same goes for some other offensive words.
Calling someone a "racist" sounds extremely offensive, but 人種差別主義者 sounds less offensive to me for some reason.

Come to think of it, I just found there are more striking examples.
Who cares if a person is 無神論者 or 不可知論者?
I suspect some Japanese adults don't know what those words mean,
but it seems words "atheist" and "agnostic" could be sometimes provocative, which is surprising if said in Japanese.

You call me a sexist? I take it as an offense.
You call me a 男女差..., um, I don't even know what the Japanese equivalent of "sexist"!
Is 男女差別主義者 a word?? I don't know.
Actually I looked in my dictionary and found 性差別主義者 is the proper term.
I don't think I heard this word more than twice in real life.

Could you let me know your opinion? I appreciate comments from both Japanese and people of different cultures.
427名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 20:24:24
What. When I tried to post >>425, it took forever to appear in this thread, and now I see the exact same post in >>426.

Sorry about that. I don't know what's going on and can't be sure if this too would be a double post...
428名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 20:25:56
I saw "7pounds"that was good but I think "7pounds"are not great than Hancock.and...Will Smith rulez!!!
429名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 22:05:55
>>426
When I hear the word ‘人種差別主義者’, I have the impression that he is an extreme racist, who believes his race is
superior to any other race.
He wouldn't distort his idea no mater what happened to him or no matter how logical persuasion he would receive.
It seems that I cherish a negative image on the word, unlike you.

As to the words 無神論者 and 不可知論者, I sometimes hear the former one though I never say or hear it in daily conversation.
When I read books a bit related to philosophy, I came across the latter one. Its meaning is so complicated and sophisticated that I couldn't grasp it though.

性差別主義者・・ I'm not familiar with the word either.
This word sounds like a little strange, probably because I seldom hear this.

Well, these are all my arbitrary opinion, so please don't take them seriously.

430名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 22:23:30
I wish Tennessean won't be a future Christopher Newsome and
Shanon Christian.
431名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 22:33:43
>>425

I really can't tell if any right word in japanese, for this english word "slut" (I mean, in the daily conversation level).
だらしない女 or あばずれ might be that, but still they aren't really used in usual talk, at least I don't use them.
Probably, some other words like... ehm.. don't ask me what the exact expressions they are.. anyway, you say slut could be used
for friends, not in the insulting way but japanese version expressions might not be used the same way.

For you, "racist" sounds strong and 人種差別主義者 doesn't much, I see.. interesting to me. Since both do sound
very strong to me, just the sound of 人種差別主義者 "jinshu sabetsu shugisha" is too long and not being used
as a name..like, "Hey, you racist. ..." but "おい、人種差別主義者!" sounds a bit too much and odd. I have seen it was said
like "レイシスト", again some people might use the kanji version but i have never seen it.

(つづく)
432名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 22:34:25
(つづき)

I think, many many people in Japan are not very much religious (I am one of them). As you know, people go to the shrine on
the new years day. And they go to the temple in summer (Bon season in August), and they say Merry Christmas
in december... And still, these are now like the events in year, still the bon season praying could be a bit serious
though.
So, these words atheist and agnostic, or 無神論者 and 不可知論者 don't give me any feeling as the words.
Maybe, could sound strong and provocative for some religious people.

Literally, yes 男女差別主義者 is a right word but I understand you have heard it not too often in real life.
As the impression for me, only some "feminists" sometimes yell this word out loud on some media but actually,
it doesn't appear to me the exact 男女差別 but simply the differences between men and women. (You know, often
these two definitions get mixed)
Well, the language wise, again "男女差別主義者 danjo sabetsu shugisha" sounds too long and not really used
in the daily talk.

I might be wrong, but this is my opinion. I hope it makes sense for you.
433425:2009/02/21(土) 22:37:10
>>429
I think we rarely if ever call others 人種差別主義者 even when they're making shockingly racist comments which, if translated in English, would make English speakers piss in their pants.
I just couldn't think of a realistic situation in which I'd use that word to describe or refer to a person.

As for technical terms in European philosophy, I guess the Japanese language doesn't help you grasp concepts at all.
It's like you can't explain well the philosophy of Confucianism in English or other European languages.

>性差別主義者・・ I'm not familiar with the word either.

So I'm not the only one. I felt relieved to hear that.
434名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 22:41:30
I wish Tennessean won't be a future Christopher Newsome and
Channon Christian.
435名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 22:47:40
I guess 女性差別主義者 is more popular word.
性差別主義者 sounds square and formal.
436425:2009/02/21(土) 22:49:49
>>431
"You racist!" sounds strong to me, and 「レイシスト!」is rather funny to hear.
I guess 人種差別主義者 is too formal or "heavy," not an ad hominem label.
I don't know how I can offend others by claiming they have a racist view in Japanese.
Can you do that?? I guess not. This is also the case with 性差別主義者, I think.

As for religion, I don't think many religious Japanese know what 不可知論者 means.
So it doesn't seem to me whether we're religious or not is the crux.
437425:2009/02/21(土) 22:50:52
>>435
Obviously, the word 女性差別主義者 is itself sexist.
438名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 22:57:45
>>437
Yes.
I don't know why 女性差別主義者(more wordy word) become
more familiar. I suppose 女性差別主義者 is more explicit and plain
than 性差別主義者 which souds like study word.
439425:2009/02/21(土) 22:59:40
>>438
I mean, 女性差別主義者 is like using 黒人差別主義者 instead of 人種差別主義者.
Did you get it?
440名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 23:03:07
Sexist(性差別主義者) is generally regared as
woman discriminator even though it can apply to both sexes.

I think that's another reason.

Is it another sexist syndrome?


441425:2009/02/21(土) 23:05:27
>>440
I think it's some politically correct nonsense, but 女性差別主義者 sounds as awkward to me as 黒人差別主義者.
442431:2009/02/21(土) 23:09:52
>>436

Not hearing those expressions in the daily talk is one thing, and offending others by calling them with those
names is another thing, I guess.
I don't really have an idea how to offend them by what "name" I could call them with, in japanese.
Not only 人種差別主義者 and 性差別主義者 but all wises.

"あなたは女性差別主義者ですね" might work, but "この女性差別主義者!"sounds a bit.. how to say.. odd.
I might bite my tongue.

About 「レイシスト」, I only have "seen" the text, not "heard" as the sound when it was said. So, you might be right,
it could sound funny. Maybe, not as natural said (sound wise) as english one.
443名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 23:16:58
>>437
In reality racist is used to describe white people's racism too.

Maybe sexist is the same.

But sexist and racist are more general and comprehensive words,
or politically correct words.

Sexist is applicable to any situations but it may be inconvenient
to accuse the concrete sitiation of men's discrimination against women.
It can dillute woman's intention.
That is probably why 女性差別主義 is more popular in Japan.

By the way, 逆差別reverse discrimination is used to mean
男性差別主義. I've never heard of 男性差別主義(者).
We should create new word 男性差別主義者.
444名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 23:18:46
Name calling is the last resort for unintelligent people when they cannot discuss a topic in depth,
whichever side they take. Each one alone desn't mean much. However, labeling serves a great sorting
purpose sometimes and is totally sufficient if any other possible explanations or persuations don't really work, I think.
445425:2009/02/21(土) 23:20:40
>>442
Hrm. You reminded me of this American who said American English is best when it comes to swearing.
He taught me "asshole" and "douche bag" are synonyms in American English, which I though was very strange.
Don't you think they should be antonyms? A hole and something to be put in to an opening next to the hole in question.
446名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 23:28:20
Racialist is a new word for racist to hike "racist" position.
Mr.David Duke won't be offended by being called racialist.
Or Racism instead of Racial realism.
Mr.Jared Taylor is famous for his racial realism.

In addition is it true that racist and racism are strange words
linguistically?

I heard adjective "racial" with "ist" or "ism" was correct.
noun "race" and "ist" or "ism" is incorrect.
447425:2009/02/21(土) 23:28:57
>>443
My stupid brain is going to explode. Argh!

Ok, I'm done. So you mean a woman uses 女性差別主義 because she differentiates discrimination against one sex to THE other and ignore homosexual persons and such?
How not sexist she is!
448名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 23:29:12
No.
Racial Realism instead of racism.
449名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 23:31:07
homosexual is another sex?
I've not reached that point.
450425:2009/02/21(土) 23:35:46
>>446
I guess if a linguistic theory claims a popular word used by native speakers is WRONG, then it's messed up already.
What native speakers say is correct, not the other way around.

I'm not saying descriptive grammar is superior to prescriptive one, but if a set of prescriptive rules don't much the vernacular, it's bulls-, er, not accurate, if you ask me.
451425:2009/02/21(土) 23:38:16
>>449
Sorry, homosexual isn't the right word. But there are many who has XXY genes or something, not XY (male) nor XX (female).
I forgot what it is called. But there're more such people than you expect, I guess.
452名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 23:43:00
Economist is the same structure with Racist.

So I don't know whether criticism of word "racist" is
right in the first place.

But I have an impression that racialist sounds more right with
respects to meaning and structure.
453425:2009/02/21(土) 23:43:13
Ah, I can't write proper English any more lol.
Maybe I need to go to bed.
Thanks for your comments. I'll come back to this thread later.
I'm still looking forward to more opinions and comments.

Cheers,
454名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 23:51:55
Anyone know what this kind of people >>451 are called?
I knew it but can't remember.
455名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 23:54:05
HaHa. Sexist is one of the examples.
I didn't notice in face of them.
Sexualist sounds like person who is confident in
sexuality to me.

Sexualist relly exists and seem to mean research stuff though.
456名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 23:56:20
>>455
By exists, do you mean sexualist is a word?
457名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/21(土) 23:57:31
Androgynous, probably.
458名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:02:04
>>454
クラインフィルター症候群
459名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:03:10
>>457
I finally found it while googling around. It's Klinefelter's syndrome or simply XYY syndrome.
Thanks anyway.

By the way, I checked the article about Androgyny on Wikipedia and there's a link to "anime" in the See Also section. Go figure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgyny
460名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:03:15
>>456
Word "sexualist" exists and it does't mean someone with
sexuality.

citation : One who classifies plants by the sexual method of Linnæus.

It seems to be very academic word so I don't know what common native speakers
imagine when they hear it.
461名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:03:24
oops, クラインフェルター症候群 is correct
462名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:04:16
>>458
Yes, that's it. Thanks. I didn't know it's called the same way in Japanese.
463名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:09:10
>>460
I see. So it's a word. I've never heard of that.

>>458,459
Same difference... Would it be wrong if I answered クラインフ「ィ」ルター in an final exam of medical class?
464名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:10:06
>>462
I didn't know the term either, but since I have knoledge about biology, I searched what the person
who has XXY is called out of curiosity.

By the way, 三毛猫 is likely to have XXY chromosome.
465名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:15:29
XXX classified uncut uncensored movies are my favorite as well.
466名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:15:30
>>464
IIRC, male 三毛 is very rare. I have seen a male 三毛猫 in person though.
467名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:16:38
>>463
It's up to your professor.
But it would cause conflicts among him and students if he regarded it wrong.
468名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:26:21
>>466
I couldn't make out what URC suggests and I looked it up on Wiktionary.
I've forgotten the mechanism but certainly male 三毛 is said to be rare.
I'm now interested in why you know this.
469名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:33:48
>>468
Um, which do you want to know; why I know the acronym or why I know 三毛 trivia?

IIRC is a very frequent abbreviation so I don't know when and where I picked it up.
As for 三毛, I love cats and used to go to ねこたま in 二子玉川 when I lived in Kanagawa.
470名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:36:29
Ah, you may not know ねこたま.
It's a cat theme park where you can see and cuddle all kinds of kittens.
I think I heard of male 三毛 there.
471名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:43:49
>>469
Wow, I just saw the ねこたま while reading articles about 三毛猫 just now!
I understand why you've seen male 三毛猫.
Well, the fact that you are cats' lover made me feel happy because I like cats and animals very much.
I keep cats in my house.

Um, it seems impossible to keep my eyes open..
Good night!

PS. I made a mistake about ミケネコ.
One has XXY chrosome is male, and that's why male ミケネコ is rare.orz
472名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:45:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_hOLCf0Uu8
He is the sexualist(sexualest)!
He is sexier than Rod Stuart and sing better than Robert Plant.
Even イギリス人 admitted!

And he is the pioneer of drug addiction trend
and the pioneer of DQN parents naming childer strange names.
His son is 美勇士(ミュージ), which comes from "music"ミュージック.

Overmore he was born with a silver spoon and succeeded his
family business.
473名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:47:00
eh,, shit

Im so glad. I passed Eiken(Japanese English approval)
yes I passed, only written exam...
I know Im good at English. My score on the test is better than any other student in my school
Yes...
except for FUCKING LISTENING test

I have to goto take an interview of “Eiken英検” tomorrow moning
I guess I never will have a good sleep tonight
474名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:50:27
>>471
Sweet dream.
475名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 00:51:00
Good taste, bro. How do you know all these weird musicians from the 70s and 80s.
476名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 01:00:17
Is it possible to connect to Internet and browse websites with i-pod touch?

477名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 01:02:05
>>476
I take it that you got b& from Google.
478名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 01:09:00
>>473
I've never taken the test in question, but I always thought listening sections are generally the easiest in standardized tests.
You're not required to know difficult vocabulary or complex grammar rules.
Maybe, didn't you study pronunciation?
479名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 01:20:40
>>477
What's b&? If you mean it's easy to find an answer by googling,
I won't because I'm lazy.

アメリカ人 worte he accessrd to 2ch with i-pod touch.
I know i-phone have internet access function but i-pod touch, too?

アメリカ人 mentioned there's a possibility that he and the administrator
of 4chan goes to the same university if he goes NY university.

I wrote before that the leading actor, Zack? of high school musical
will enroll in USC according to Japan's wikipedia article, but maybe he hasn't
read my post.

To think he's an avid fan of High School Musical and dances to the video
at least twice a day, he'll choose to go to USC.
How can a boy like Zack who must be extremely busy with acting jobs achieve good enough
academic record to apply for USC, which is a very good uni?
Is it all about recommendation letter, not GPA?
480名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 01:28:44
>>479
I guess it's a different thing than laziness.
As for b&, read it aloud already. Are you that lazy?
481名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 01:39:14
>>480
Ahh, band, which is bandwith.
So you can't make a phone call with i-pod touch but it provides
internet access.

i-pod: music player
i-phone: music player + cell phone + internet access

i-pod touch:music player + internet access

so i-pod touch is kind of like inbetween function-wise.
482名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 01:40:48
And アメリカ人 is not only a panty thief but also a bandwith thief.
Great!
483名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 01:43:04
>>481
...you can browse your usual websites through wifi or something on ipod touch.
B& means, well, banned.
484Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/22(日) 02:02:25
>>412
( ・ω・) I am going to be studying Physics. What about you?
>>417
I find her utterly annoying and unbearable. I don't really understand why anyone is attracted to her. She may be attractive but I cannot see it. She is so annoying that it causes me to see her as ugly.
485名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 02:04:32
>>484
>I don't really understand why anyone is attracted to her. She may be attractive

I always though the definition of "attractive" is that to cause someone attracted.
486Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/22(日) 02:09:32
>>485
It is; however, the term "attractive" used in regard to a man or woman usually focuses on their appearance alone. A beautiful girl would be considered attractive.
Some of it may be subconsciously determined by her personality, but the main reason is her appearance.
( ・ω・) Please let me know if I need to clarify further.
487名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 02:12:05
>>486
Ah, so a guy could be attracted by an ugly bitch, but she's never attractive in the usual sense, right?
488Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/22(日) 02:35:46
>>487
Exactly. He may PERSONALLY find her attractive but when some random person is describing her they would not call her attractive because she is ugly.
489名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 02:38:05
>>483
I see. i-pod touch give you web browsing.
And Banned. Thanks. I'm not banned from google.
If It's not the matter of laziness, what's that?
Maybe I'm an idiot. I have to admit I don't like sorting out websites
on a search result pages to find the best website that matches what
I'm looking for.

>>484
Apply for Calitech or MIT. Are they too difficult?

Japanese people in general have good and positive views on Western people,
because of the popularity of Hollywood actors and singers. That's why Japan is a heaven
for American losers who have no skills other than teaching English in Japan.

Emily is figure is very good. Nice boobs and her speaking Japanese
is an advantage to draw attentions of Japanese men. Not many foreigners
speak English as good as her. That's appealing to Japanese men, too.
But if she's ugly inside, then the ugly side of her personality will surface
bit by bit. Maybe e-begging is the first step, although it was done
in English so people comenting on her blog might not know the fact that
she's asking for money. I don't know.
Let's face it. She has attractive body, beautiful face.
I want to screw her although she's not a good girl to get married with or go out with, though.
I don't know much about her inside but she's beautiful at least in terms
of appearance.
490名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 02:39:13
>>488
Thanks for the lucid explanation!
491名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 02:42:37
>>486
Excuse me cutting in.
So, "be attracted" is subjective, and "attractive" is objective?

Example, some people could be attracted to this girl who looks like a gorilla, but she is not attractive.
Is this right?
492491:2009/02/22(日) 02:44:46
oops, sorry..the answer was there already before I posted.
493名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 02:48:11
>>478
yep I didn't it
when English class in my school our teacher makes us practice of pronounce, I often cut or sleeping lol
494Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/22(日) 02:58:08
>>489
I did not apply to Caltech. I did apply to MIT though. Caltech is a very small school so that makes it less appealing to me.
495電子工学者:2009/02/22(日) 03:30:36
>>494
I almost applied to Caltech and MIT, but I didn't really have the grades to make it in or get scholarships so I decided against it.

Ah well. Enough people have heard of the University of Texas to make a degree from there worthwhile, right?





Right?
496Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/22(日) 03:42:38
>>495
Well as for prestige, undergraduate really doesn't matter anyways. University of Texas is a great school though! You will learn a lot there I think.
497名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 03:52:04
>>494
Calitech only has 900 students in total but they are all excellent.
MIT has more students but more students mean some not so good students can be seen
among total number of students.
So on average, the quality of students is better in Calitech. That's what
I read somewhere.

What about Stanford?
498アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/02/22(日) 04:02:41
>>479
Yup, Im borrowing my neighbor's wifi to post with my iPod touch's full browser capabilities.
Sorry for not answering your post before! USC is known for its film school so I'm sure the actor's
experience is a huge advantage on his application. Plus they get bragging rights if he goes there.
For the record I hate high school musical, much to the dismay of my host sister (she must have
8 posters in her room of just "Zack").
>>484
Nice. I liked the physics class I took last year but not enough to take the AP level ones.
I want to major in Computer Science with a dual minor in Scientology/Scatology.

I was reading some of the previous posts about labels and saw atheist/agnostic mentioned
and that they aren't commonly used. In the US they are used fairly often, mostly because
there is a huge stigma against atheists. In my literature class we've been discuss the morals
(or lack of) of the character Meursault in Albert Camus' The Stranger. My teacher keeps linking
immoralism and atheism, much to the ire of myself and another classmate. Separation of church
and state? I don't think so.
499電子工学者:2009/02/22(日) 06:30:02
>>498
>Scientology/Scatology

うはw

By the way, I'm going to Nagoya in the fall for research purposes. What is the general opinion of Nagoya?
I've heard some people (mostly JETs, although I take everything they say with a grain of salt) express a rather low opinion of Nagoya, but I fail to see why.
500MCAkio:2009/02/22(日) 06:43:28
>>496
UT? Really?
NO, if you want to study english, go to University of Georgia or Georgia Tech.
501Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/22(日) 07:45:54
>>497
Caltech students overall are indeed more academically excellent; however, I heard that MIT realized that students who were purely academic did poorly in the school.
I'm also applying to Stanford! They have a very good Physics program as well. My number one choice is Princeton though. Their undergraduate Physics program seems to be the best.
>>498
I wanted to become a Computer Scientist as well until I learned more about Physics. I'm the sort of person who has to know and understand the underpinnings of EVERYTHING. w
>>499
wwww Maybe he can teach us the Kusomiso Technique!
>>500
( ・ω・) Huh? University of Texas at Austin is considered one of the "Public Ivy" schools. Am I mixing up schools or something?
University of Georgia is not on the same level as University of Texas. Georgia Tech is highly ranked but I always hear bad things about their engineers so I have no idea what to think about it.
502電子工学者:2009/02/22(日) 08:35:27
>>500
Eh? I'm not studying English. I'm an Americunt, so I speak a good approximation of English.

>>501
I think UT is considered a "Public Ivy," but I'm actually at UT Dallas. I just said UT because
I was pretty sure nobody has ever heard of UT Dallas. It's like the fifth or sixth choice
for a lot of potential engineering majors.
503名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 11:23:43
>>498
If you and Zack are both accepted by USC, your host sister must scream
with excitment and send you her panty or two. You must take photos of him and
send them to her in return. But that can't beat the thrill and pleasure of stealing them.

>>499
You said you are American, then why did you ask about your university?
Just wanted to know your university's reputation from American?
What do you want to know about Nagoya?
Nagoya is the third or fourth largest city so very urbanized.
Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya, Yokohama.... I don't know why the JETs have
low opinion about Nagoya, but maybe they just like Tokyo metropolitan
area.

As you may know two of three Japanese Nobel Prize winners last year
studied at Nagoya university.

>>501
You know Kusomiso Technique. Amazed.
504名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 11:36:35
>>503
I wasn't really asking a question. It was more of a joke implying that
nobody has ever heard of the university that I go to. Apparently, though
I was wrong.

Also, even a lot of people in the West know about Kusomiso Technique.
古いネタですから。
505名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 14:09:09
Moderate excersise is good for your health.
Are you doing some excersise every day ?
In my case, strolling around nearby park at night is my routine excersise.
506名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 15:51:31
I do sit-ups and push-ups.
I took online karate master course.
I'll challenge Tennessean to a sumo bout.
507名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 17:50:32
Do you think Heroes of Might and Magic is interesting?
Is there anyone who palyed the game before?
508名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 18:00:24
never
509名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 18:46:12
>>506
It was my first time that I knew there's a site we can practice Karate online.
How did you do that?
I guess that a Karate teacher explain you how to kick or punch in the display, and you imitate the way he perfome.
Am I right?
510名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 18:47:04
>>508
I find the graphic of the game really beautiful.

http://www.4gamer.net/review/hommv/img/03-02.jpg

I like turn-based strategy games very much.
So if the storyline of this game is sophisticated, I want to give it a try!
511名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 19:15:27
>>509
It's just a joke.
There was that kind of joke in manzai or Yoshimoto Shinkigeki.
「いてもうたろか、われ。俺は空手の黒帯だぞ、コラ。通信教育だけどな。」
I arranged this joke to fit Internet age. That is, online Karate course.
512名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 19:27:03
>>507
I guess it takes a good CPU and graphic card to play the game.
Or else, the picture doesn't run smoothly.

What's your PC's spec? You self-made your PC?
513名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 23:25:19
Does these posts >>502 >>500 mean some of us write proper English so it's not always easy to spot native speakers?
I always thought it was a cinch for native speakers to put their fingers on non-native-ish errors.
And this makes me wonder: Have you ever met a non-native speaker of your mother tongue who would pass for a native speaker when s/he writes a long passage?

I know everyone can speak fairly well with some accent reduction training.
Besides, even native speakers make a ton of errors when speaking.
Actually there're a bunch of youtube videos of faking native speakers of virtually any major language.

But I was thinking you could never get away with errors in your written text;
literate native speakers make far fewer errors in their writings than in speech, so your unnatural word choices and idiosyncratic errors do stick out if made any.

My English skills are limited and I can't tell who writes native-like posts,
but I do know some of posters in here have a better command of English than me (Thank you, advanced learners! I learned a lot from you.).
Do they write flawlessly? If so, it's amazing. I've never seen a Japanese learner having such high level writing skills.
514名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/22(日) 23:31:02
Ah, by "Japanese learner" in the last line of >>513, I mean a person who is learning the Japanese language as a foreign language.
Sorry, it was confusing.
515名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 00:24:20
There are so many versions of this song out there, but this is my fave.<3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8r9ZPQ_828

What's your theme song today, folks?
516名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 00:38:08
>>515
Here's my today's tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt-msSvdrd8

By the way, are you the uploader?
517名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 01:00:03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQAZFWb7kSU

My theme song yesterday was this.
518名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 01:00:54
>>516
No, it's not me, that song just popped up into my mind for some reason.
I liked your pick. Do you like badass girls, or you just like the song?
519名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 01:03:41
>>517
You look good in there.
520名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 01:13:51
>>518
It's Superhuman by Modern Day Zero, and I like the band.
As for girls, I like all sorts of good looking females. Dominatrices are fine too.

When I run into the cool vid, I didn't know the anime series shown in the vid, and it made me give it a shot.
I watched the first few eps of its English dub somewhere on the internet, and now I have a copy of DVD on my HD.
If you don't mind anime and stuff, I recommend it.
521名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 01:23:33
I forgot to mention the title. The series is Black Lagoon. All characters including the female protagonist are supposed to be speaking English in the show,
and, in my humble opinion, their voice acting is pretty good.

Ah, and I wanted to say "When I ran across the vid,". Sorry, I always make stupid errors here and there.
522名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 01:44:03
>>521
I watch some anime, so I'll try it. Thanks. Maybe I can find those eps on youtube, right?
I hope the English is not that hard for me to follow.

BTW, I'd be interested to know how English-dubbed versions sound to native speakers of English.
Lot's of Japanese-dubbed movies sound sort of odd, as their Japanese is sometimes superficial.
I like them that way, but I'm curious if it's the same as with English.
523名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 02:21:03
>>522
I think you can find all eps on some streaming site if you google the title.
If you don't mind it, I'm pretty sure you can torrent 'em all.
I do recommend you buy DVDs if you like it though.

As for English in the show, it's pretty easy. Pronunciation is clear and they don't use big words.
Probably you'll pick up new words/phrases that you're not familiar with so it's a good way to hone your English skills, if you ask me.
524名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 02:21:32
Continuation to >>523

I don't watch anime in Japanese a lot so I'm not sure if English dubs are better in general.
But, from my own experience, I can tell you old series most likely suck and new, popular ones are generally good.
They often hire famous voice actors who voices in foreign movies, tv ads, and whatnot for popular anime.
If you prefer more easy-to-localize shows, you're in luck. Black Lagoon is a good example: Charactors are all supposed to be speaking English.
Of course, you may end up hearing squeeky voices if you like so called moe anime and stuff.
But still, even dubs of moe-ish shows are sometimes very good, if not better than the original Japanese dubs.

Anyway, you can try some eps of each series you have watched in Japanese so you can see if English is shit or not.
525名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 02:24:22
Argh! I can't post a longer comment. It took forever to appear or I'll get an error.
What's wrong? It seems 2ch needs some fix.
526名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 02:26:27
Sorry, I meant "I takes forever." Seems it's me that needs a fix... Whatever.
527アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/02/23(月) 02:37:49
Oh man, Black Lagoon is one of my favorite animes. As for dubs, I really liked the dubbing in
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (that is also one of my all time favorites).
>>513
As in fluent non native speakers? There are plenty of fluent non native speakers at my school
(most of them Chinese expats) who write and speak perfectly. Remeber though, being able to write
well is distinctive from being a fluent writer. Some of you here are good enough to get away with it as well,
such as yourself. The only thing quirky I noticed was your usage of there're. While it's used in speech
it looks very odd in writing and I would suggest not using the contraction. If anything though that could
be a mistake a native speaker would make as well.
>>507
Oh man that get brings back memories. I use to play it at friends house all the time although
it must have been an older version because the graphics were terrible lol.

My song for today is anything by "The National". I went on YouTube but I couldn't
decide on one single song to pick lol. "Fake Empire" is their most popular song though
so if you're interested I'd search for that one first.
528名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 02:52:14
>>527
Thanks for your detailed commet.

>Remeber though, being able to write well is distinctive from being a fluent writer.

Being a fluent writer is a toll order for me...

>The only thing quirky I noticed was your usage of there're.

I always use the contraction whenever I'm in sort of speaking mode.
For some reason, sometimes I can't help but write the way I speak. Apparently that's why I can't do without a spell checker.
I'm terrible when it comes to spelling. (terrable? terrible? Well, firefox says "terrable" is rediculous... oh wait.)

I'll write more in the next post. Somehow longer posts won't appear.
529名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 03:04:01
Continuation to >>528

Yes! Black Lagoon is awesome.
I think Haruhi is one of good examples of excellent English dubs of moe-ish anime.
The voice action of Kyon, Haruhi, and many other casts are convincing to me.
Though it's not my kind of anime, I picked up lots of vocab from the show.

I guess popular in US = at least torelable dubs. Am I right?
It seems to me Outraw Star, Trigun, Hellsing, and most of fairly new, popular ones are dubbed very well.
530名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 03:09:55
>>528
Ahhh, what's "toll order"?? I wanted to say "It's a tall order." Spell checkers always fail me when it comes to but-it's-also-a-word kind of typo.
531Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/23(月) 03:14:43
>>503
I am sort of a student of 2ch internet culture. I have been following it since 2004 or so. Same with Futaba.
Please teach me 2ch jokes!
( ・ω・) Is the Yoshinoya rant still well known?
532名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 03:22:29
I didn't like the Haruhi Anime. I liked the manga, though. : )
Lucky star ftw!! It's great <3
kagamin <33
533名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 03:26:46
>>531
Not >>503, but since 2004? I'm a newfag compared to you then.
I've been on 2ch for only a year or so, but I know what the Yoshinoya rant means.
So I guess it could still pop up once in a while in a few threads, but it seems to be obsolete.

So you speak Japanese well enough to be able to follow Futaba.
I must admit sometimes I don't understand their moonspeak even though I'm Japanese.
Which boards are you on?
534名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 03:27:42
>>532
Pedo.


...I like it too.
535名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 03:30:20
Didn't the English voice actress of Haruhi also voice the blue hair protagonist in Lucky Star?
I like her voice acting.
536Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/23(月) 03:44:16
>>533
( ・ω・) My Japanese really isn't very good at all. I have a lot of trouble but I can roughly figure out what a lot of posts mean basically through experience.
Futaba also has images so it's a little easier to follow what's going on if you already know what the image means.
I spend most of my time on may, jun and some of the other neta boards.
I'm not surprised the Yoshinoya rant is obsolete. It is extremely old. I wonder if there is any new popular kopipe that I don't know about.
537名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 04:04:55
>>536
>I can roughly figure out what a lot of posts mean basically through experience.
That's impressing. I used to occasionally browse jun, may and others,
but my ISP got b& from Futaba so I fled to 4chan because I didn't have much trouble understanding English.
I think you're learning Japanese in a natural way. I wouldn't be surprised if you eventually achieve native-like fluency.
Well, in my case, /b/ significantly lowered my IQ and /a/ has been hurting my grammar for ages though.

Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with 2ch memes. I have tons of 4chan pasta on my HD, but to me, remembering 2ch memes does more harm than good.
Hmm... In retrospect, maybe I shouldn't have saved 4chan pasta either.
They're funny but usually stupid and always contain a dash of grammatical errors thrown in for good measure.
538Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/23(月) 04:12:49
>>537
I am a long time 4chan user as well except now 4chan is really lame. orz
If you are interested in 4chan kopipe please visit this site: http://halcy.de/kopipe/index.html.down
( ・ω・) Why do you say remembering 2ch memes does more harm than good?
539名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 04:25:16
>>538
Japanese is my mother tongue and if I remembered a meme, maybe I'd blurt it out without thinking.
You know, memes always have some stupidity in them.
If I say something strange in English, it'd be ok because all I need to say is "Ah, maybe I said something wrong? Sorry if I may have offended you. It's my second language after all..."
But I wouldn't be able to get away with it if I said something awkward.
Memes are memes for a reason. They're catchy. I can see myself saying a meme or two out of habit without realizing it.
540電子工学者:2009/02/23(月) 04:26:58
>>533
Remembering 2ch memes is pretty bad if you want to actually learn
Japanese. After all, most 2ch jokes, in my experience, are based on
improper usage of kanji and other intentional (or maybe unintentional)
errors.

One that I see that still pops up a lot is the whole
「Xけど何か質問ある?」thing. Sometimes you see equivalents on Western
*chans, but you see it a lot in in news4vip. By the way, I don't
endorse hanging around there; it'll affect your Japanese and your
intelligence in many more ways than memorising old neta ever will.
541電子工学者:2009/02/23(月) 04:28:10
Oops, meant to reply to >>538.

I really need to put on my glasses before posting...
542名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 04:29:20
And thank you for the link. 4chan has been changing, but I always find it addictive.
What makes you think current 4chan's lame?
543名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 04:40:26
>>540
4chan sure has been hurting my grammar. I can tell you from my own experience.
That said, it greatly helped me improve fluency. I'm not sure if non-native speakers should avoid an idiosyncratic language register.
It's not like I'd say, "eh doesn't afraid of anything" in real life. And like I said, if I did, it wouldn't be that big a problem.
544Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE :2009/02/23(月) 04:47:00
>>540
w Yes, I know most of the Japanese is not exactly correct. I do not use 2ch as a method for learning Japanese really. The main benefit to me is that it causes me to look up kanji which reinforces it in my memory.
For my Japanese studies I usually stick to books and other resources. Thank you for your concern though!
>>542
It is now much more popular and for this reason the quality of posts has gone down a lot.
Long ago everyone knew what kind of posts were considered quality on 4chan, and every one knew the inside jokes. It allowed for a very witty interchange to go on within threads.
Now 4chan's users are from all over the internet and do not particularly subscribe to the "4chan" sense of humor. Now 4chan is like any other site on the internet and has lost that original charm.
There are hardly any new jokes or interesting comments being made; most of the threads are about posting naked girls.
Also the attitude of the users has become unfitting for an anonymous site. Before people would make cool and funny posts hoping to contribute to the website. Now people try to make memorable posts for fame.
I'm not sure why anyone would try to post for attention on an anonymous board, but it seems to happen a lot now.
( ・ω・) Basically I am just bitter that my secret club website of internet nerds has now become mainstream. wwwww

What do you Japanese users enjoy about 4chan? What makes it interesting
545名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 05:11:45
>>544
To me, old 4chan was moving too slow. And I think I find it interesting because it has lots of posts and I can get a reply in a second.
Increasing popularity may have been lowering its quality, but as an outsider, the more people, the better.
English isn't my native tongue, so I can't be a true member of it in the sense that I never fully understand a post as the same level as you do.
So, as long as it keeps certain quality, it's all right. Inside jokes are all well and good, but they sure repel casual users, and most of Japanese aren't hardcore anons, I think.
The numbers of users are the main reason why I don't frequent other *chans too.

Ah, and 4chan, especially /a/, taught me a lot about otaku/weeaboo culture.
It's definitely interesting to know what foreign weeaboos (I know it's kind of a tautology.) think of our subculture.

That being all said, maybe why I frequent 4chan can be boiled down to the fact that I love an image board. Simply, it's fun!
546名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 05:22:48
こんにちは日本人。僕は外人で、日本語が難しいだ。
平仮名と片仮名は易しいと思いました。
あと、もっと漢字を知っていたいだよ。
助けってください。。。。
547名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 05:32:11
>>546
Um, I'm not sure how I can help you in this Chat in English thread.
Maybe fixing your grammar would help a little?
If you want me to do so, let me know.

If you're a native English speaker, it'd be nice to correct errors and/or refine our wording.
I'm >>545 (right above you) and some other long posts about anime/English/4chan/other nonsense.
548名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 05:41:03
Trying to explain to Japanese posters: 4chan is considered the retards of the western internet. They are mostly 14 - 18 year old boys who think repeating catchphrases makes them a comedy genius.
Please to not consider them representative of Western people.
Do you have idiots in your country?
549名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 05:46:00
>>547
Yes I am a native english speaker from England. I'm not sure where else to post this on the site.
I find Japanese grammar to be very confusing at times, but I've only been learning Japanese for a few months, and I am sitting an exam in it in the Summer so I have plenty of time to improve.
I prefer learning kanji to grammar so I should proably shift my attention.
I don't really need help to be honest, I just wanted to say it :)

also: The only 4chan board I ever read is /jp/.
550名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 05:57:35
>>544 >>548
It's pretty much the same with 2ch. Just so many attention seekers over here, too. I'm sure there's a reason or two
for them but most of them don't even post anything remotely interesting nowadays. They just want to inflate their
egos, which is a quite natural desire, but why on 2ch when there's so many other places that can fulfill their needs?
There used to be a lot of funny assholes even with tripcodes, but those days are gone and the majority of anons are
retarded as well. Though, the native speakers here on this board are exempted from that blame, because your posts serve
a legitimate purpose of helping us with English and I, for one, really appreciate it.
551名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 05:59:40
>>548
Thanks, captain obvious.
I'm fully aware that 4chan is a cesspool filled with retarded on the internet.
I do think anyone who consider those faggots are representing Westerners has a fucked up brain.

Our country does have a plethora of idiots such as myself.
I thought it was a common sense that idiots are everywhere.

>>549
Then you're good at picking a language up. Your Japanese seems good for a learner who only spent a few months, though it might be too short to see if it's true.
I've read a blog claiming Japanese learners should learn all 2000 kanji first.
I don't know if it's more efficient, but he only spent a few years but sounds like a native speaker so you might be interested:

http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/

I wish you the best of luck!
552名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 06:07:06
>>551
Your knowledge of websites has impressed me. Even to the point that it validates you assuming a general comment was aimed at you.
Thank you for explaining also the distribution of idiots via the globe. Unfortunatley it seems though your english is not well developed enough
to trace "sarcasm".
If you wish I would honor to re-educate you. ^_^
553名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 06:16:19
>>552
It's not sarcasm, but trolling.
I always make sure that I look retarded when trolling.
554名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 06:22:24
>553
wwww
You are showing your misunderstanding. I know "Troll" is a mythical creature like unicorn or Jesus.
Though from what I know from this troll they are slow and stupid. Retard maybe.
In this case, you are very excellent at trolling sir!
555名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 06:26:53
>>554
Yes. I'm good at trolling. Actually I just got this guy who's kindly educating me.
Trolling is one of the best ways to learn a second language, don't you think?
556名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 06:37:31
>>555
I fail to see how being retard assist in learning language?
Unless maybe American? From what I know retard is common in their culture. Maybe you will fit in, well?
557名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 07:04:22
>>556
Yes, I'd fit perfectly in if it's idiotic culture.

Joking aside, I think acquiring a language is developing a new linguistic persona in the target language.
And to understand a given persona, you need to know other characters as well to compare with.
It's like if you want to be a "good" boy, you need to know how a spoilt brat would behave.

I guess we've been mimicking adults and peers when we were kids as absorbing our first language(s), and through this mimicking, or acting if you will, we naturally gained deep knowledge of personas, culture and so on.
Alas, we adults don't have leeway to mimic other idiots in real life so it seems very hard to learn "good behavior."

I think trolling on the internet is a good approximation of this learning process.
Also, on anonymous fora, it is fairly easy to sock puppet multiple persons with different personas.
If children are "acting" to develop a persona and it is vital to acquire their first language, then it stands reason that the online mimicry is beneficial to adult language learners.

Well, I got bored. Does this make sense to you? If so, that's why. If not, I don't care.
558名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 07:10:40
>>557
Overlong psudo science to excuse acting as a retard. Try harder next time thank you.
559名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 07:15:15
>>558
See? I'm good at trolling.
560名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 07:29:10
>>559
Why do you keep telling me you are retard? I would attempt to I hide I was a retard.
Maybe that is why you try to learn American?
561名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 07:38:58
What do Japanese people think of Americans who love moe and stuff like Lucky Star?
Other Americans see us as disgusting losers but I'm sure you all understand us.
Maybe I should move to Japan?
562名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 07:40:37
>>560
>learn American

Haha.

Anyway, there's no point trying to figure out what others are really thinking in an online discussion.
There's no way to prove I'm the same guy as the idiot you've been talking to.
You can't tell if I'm really Japanese or not. Can you?

You take everything serious and nothing will be obtained.
You ignore everything in here and nothing will be lost.
Everything is meaningless on anonymous boards.
It's that simple.
563イギリス人:2009/02/23(月) 07:41:12
Spent the weekend in London, for about the first time since I was sixteen.
Stayed at Trafalgar Square, visited the National Gallery and Victoria and
Albert Museum. They had a special exhibition on Imperial Russia, which was
pretty interesting, but also a room on Japanese artwork, mainly 浮世絵 but
other things too. There were a few pieces of artwork in the corner by Utagawa
Sadahide which were quite bizarre... like an octopus with a teapot instead of
a head. That was interesting too. And saw the Russian girl from the train again.

Managed to mutilate my feet by walking around too much in new shoes (after the
old ones split in half on the bottom), and almost thought I'd set the fire alarm
off in the hotel after it started sounding the moment I opened my room door. And
had nothing to eat today except for a blueberry muffin. Memorable times.
564名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 07:43:39
>>561
I don't despise guys who fantasize about lolis. But it might be just me.
I fapped to Konata last night by the way.
565名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 08:08:42
>>563
A trip to London isn't complete without visiting the SOHO district.
566名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 08:10:51
>>562
In this world there cannot be two people as expert at being a retard troll.
Truely astonded am I.
567名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 08:25:26
>>561
Although I'm not completely sure about moe, Lucky Star doesn't seem to be one in that category.
I don't really see how those characters could appeal to the audience in that way, but their conversations
contain some wit, I suppose.
568名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 08:26:24
>>566
Ahaha. You're right on the money.

By the way, I learned a new usage of the verb "trace" from your post.
I kind of knew it could be used in that sense, but I wasn't 100% sure.
Now I learned it from clear context. Thank you!

Well, I should get going now. Catch you later.
569名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 08:32:37
I think we just witnessed something magical.

English-speaking Japanese trolling other English-speaking Japanese.

ಥ_ಥ Beautiful....
570名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 08:59:18
>>563
After meeting with the Japanese girl, this time you showed the Russian girl you met on the
train around London? You, lucky dog. I guess you couldn't sleep tight the day before
with your heart pounding. At least you didn't have to be nervous about
speaking in Japanese before you saw her.

On a different note, in that this is about a girl, it's on the same note,
Hirosue Ryoko made appearance on TV this morning. She's now in America to participate
in Academy Award. She is in a movie nominated to the award as a foreign film.
She and other actors and the director is supposed to walk on the red carpet
to particiapte in the ceremony.
571イギリス人:2009/02/23(月) 09:10:03
>>565
Got as far as Soho Square, but didn't go deep down into it. The Japanese
visitors from last Tuesday were telling me about it, though. About the pub
with a rainbow flag in the window, and with men holding hands with other men
and women groping each other. They seemed totally shocked. But a bit amused too.

That reminds me... as I was about to board my train back home today, these
two guys were totally making out and feeling each other up before one got
on the train. I've got nothing against gay couples, but this was just indecent.
Even heterosexual couples don't do things like that.
572名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 09:22:53
>>569
To me, they were just bullshitting over the trivial nonsense, but surely flattering and buttering each other..
573イギリス人:2009/02/23(月) 09:32:00
>>570
Oh ho, I had no idea Okuribito had a nomination! Now there's even
more reason to watch the Oscars - thank you!
574名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 09:39:11
I may understand what the word ‘troll’exactly means at last today.
Do you think my deduction about its meaning is right?
575名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 09:45:56
>>563
How did you know the girl in the train was Russian ?
576名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 09:48:10
>>574
I don't know what your deduction is, but this might help you get a general idea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
577名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 09:49:25
>>573
Yeah, that's it. You are still updated on Japanese movie scene.
I'm impressed!

578イギリス人:2009/02/23(月) 09:54:51
>>577
It's one I've been meaning to watch, but just haven't found the time...
has it been released on DVD yet?

>>575
I met her on a different train, back in November 2007. She was travelling
with a colleague, as they both work at Moscow State University and were on
some kind of seminar, but doing sightseeing on the side.
579名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 10:09:00
>>578
Oh, she's the russian girl you memtioned before? What a accidental event!

Did you carry on a conversation with her?
580名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 10:13:05
>>578
Amazon.co.jp says DVD's available from March 18th.
Probably this is the case of the Japanese version and you have to wait longer to get
subbed or dubbed version... I don't know.

Okuribito's promotion website is really heavy now probably because
many people here want to know more about it now.
581名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 10:16:23
>>579
I think they planed to see in London.
582イギリス人:2009/02/23(月) 10:18:39
>>579
Oh no... there wasn't anything accidental about it. Got a message from
her just over a week ago, saying she was going to be in London last week.
Couldn't go down while I was working, but arranged to meet over this weekend.

Hadn't actually seen her other than on the train, so she seemed shorter than
expected.

583名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 10:24:45
>>561
Unless you perfome stupid things, such as dancing on the street with anime costume,
mamy people accept you with open arms.
Basically, I think people feel somehow happy to hear foreigners like things related to Japan!
But be careful, decent adults tend to hate or be completely ignorant of otaku.
584名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 10:34:03
>>581-582
haha, I got it! Surely such an accidental thing is very unlikely to occur.

Well, I hope your relationship with her continues.
585名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 10:44:15
>>582
>Hadn't actually seen her other than on the train, so she seemed shorter than
expected.

Haha. That's funny. You guys were seated on the train, you didn't recognized
how tall she was the first time you met her. I guess she and you have good
chemistry to think that it just took only a few hours of chatting on the train (and
maybe exchanging email) to have been to the point where you almost
went out.
586名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 11:50:29
>>561
Basically, you would be accepted compared with the same kind of Japanese otaku, but otaku is also avoided here.
Personally, I don't have any negative feeling to them, but I admit that I'm worried about communicating with them because their conversation topics are very narrow and deep.
587名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 11:54:32
I just ate Korean food dinner and read English book.
I have to use dictionary from time to time or more often, but I'm learning,so it's a good thing.
588アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/02/23(月) 12:55:31
>>585
Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades =P

I'm watching the oscars right now and keeping my eye out for the foreign language film category.
589アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/02/23(月) 13:11:03
Okuribito just won!
590名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 13:24:53
>>589
Are Hirosue crying?
591名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 15:16:31
Someone should attach AA to celebrate the prize!
592名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 16:28:51
That'd be too much.
593名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 20:12:21
>>561
Otaku gaijins are cool because when I see them talking about Japanese culture
it makes me feel like I'm cool and awesome even though I'm just a loser who
has done nothing to contribute to the culture. Otakus are welcome here~
However, I watched Lucky Star some time ago and it was boring as shit.
594名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 21:01:24
>>593
So how do you eat a chocolate cornet?
595名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 21:33:05
What about a chocolate?
Do you need a chocolate that is my hand made?
If you want I will give you that.
596名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 21:38:32
When I visited a thread concerned about Syouichi Nakagawa, I found the link to a youtube video, in which
a famous journalist explained that his drunkun interview was a plot caused by a high official.
And he also said that Japan was in fact thanked for its contributuin to IMF at the G7 meeting.
He deplared Japanese media's guilt, saying that they only emphasized how China was important without introducing Japanese donations.

By the way, I found Yoshimi Watanabe, who is a politician, had his own channel on youtube, and I was startled.
597名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 23:02:26
>>596
We should develop media literacy on our part and reveal how untrustworthy they are.
Off the top of my head, at least the current Japanese media have two problems.
One, they don't provide any information necessary to judge what's good and what's not.
They love to accentuate the dark side of one thing. Let's say, the value of yen.
When the value of yen goes up, they say Japan's economy's dead (while they say Japan's economy's dead when
it goes down. - what the fuck?) Always one-sided view of things with dark impression.
And two, like you brought up the subject about ex-financial minister Nakagawa, they don't want to report of any good thing.
They say they have the right not to report : all that is important is whether it's in favor of themselves.
(Personally I think it's awful when they say, "the right to know". )
I'm sick of the Japanese media, especially TV news sucks.
598名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 23:39:28
>>597
What is bizarre about Japanese media is they seem to be quite indifferent to national interest.
I think this attitude is somewhat good in terms of world peace and international cooporation.
But I doubt they are actually care about kind of international cooporation. I'm wondering if they just like picking up someone's failures or just all pessimists.
599名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/23(月) 23:52:53
>>594
I dont know.. I dont remember the last time I ate one.
Choco cornet looks like turd. I would buy something else.
600real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/02/24(火) 01:26:57
It is said in Japan that America brings up Japan and tries to get Japan money.
Such Movie Awards and Novel Prizes of physics may be bait.
601名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 04:22:27
A game company has challenged the public to find a mysterious
"Satoshi".

To help, the company has released a picture of this Satoshi.

http://www.findsatoshi.com/

The background of Satoshi's picture is Kaysersberg, Alsace, France.
However, it's probable that Satoshi isn't there anymore.
Apparently, several Japanese companies used to have local branches
there, but have since moved on.
The owners of the site received a tip that Satoshi was in Los Angeles
for a short amount of time, but it's unknown if this is true.

Also, it's been confirmed that this Satoshi is not Satoshi Hirabayashi
or Dr. Satoshi Habuchi.
602名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 05:53:28
>>601
I read through about the project on the website.
Sounds interesting.

The biggest barrier for the project to secceed is a language barrier.
The project was started by a British company and all the info about the
project is written in English.

There has to be conventional influential Japanese media and online media
involved in this project to find him.

Even ABC reported this project.
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2820107

And some other online English speaking online media has this project
come to light but not Japanese influential media.
603名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 06:54:21
Okuribito, the winner of Academy foreign film award was directed by a
a man who has a history of derecting porn movies.

It's not easy to climb up the ladder to be a decent director who
is entrusted with big money and shooting a decent film.
Maybe I should start from becoming a porn actor in B movies and
decades later, I can imagine myself on Academy award stage, after
walking on the red carpet, introduced by Tom Hanks as a winner of
Leading actor category.

Nice carrer path, eh? I'd make a speech that goes like, "Two decades
ago, I was nothing. Posting in 2ch and wasting time there waking up all night.
Now I'm here on this stage for one of the the most prestageous awards
in the world. I thank all 2channelers I trolled and was trolled by.
I can't beleive I was at the keybpard typing shivering in the dark without
turning on room lights decades ago.... speech continues.
604名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 07:43:04
>>596-597
Considering the role of journalism that is expected, they should rather be critical of power than
being a propaganda machine catering to the authorities; I would just turn off the TV set that keeps
telling me how important it is for us to hold onto mythical patriotic pride no matter what and then everything
is going to be alright. However, I agree that today's mass media tend to accomodate the taste of the public
to the extent that they are no different to sleazy tabloid papers that can sell, but don't really get deeper into
an untouchable level where the real interest lies. Probably, they never will confront secretive power whatever it is.
They do shape public opinion but also relfect social and cultural characteristics of a nation, in a way.
605名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 09:58:43
>>603
lol
It's a good idea!
606名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 10:05:43
Native speakers of English.

Which is considered to be worse in terms of manner, farting in public or burping in public?
Don't answer both are bad. Pick which is worse.
607名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 14:02:58
I'm going to play Heroes of might and magic V.
Does anyone have opinions about the game?
608名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 14:16:28
Don't ask the same question.
609名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 19:02:55
>>607
I played HOMM 3. It was a very repetitive and boring game.
And 3 seems to be the most popular in the series.
610名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 19:17:59
How about age of empire series?
I heard they are good games.
611名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 19:57:25
Prime minister Aso is going to attend a conference at white house.
It seems that Japan is the first country to be invited there for the Obama cabinet.

This news sounds like really good news for us but we cannot take it at face value.
A journalist said ‘ the president Obama must have intention to demand Japan
for its extra financial contribution as an ally. ’
There is a truth behind the special treatment!
612名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 20:22:52
>>611
Gian calls Suneo when the going gets tough. Same old, same old.
613名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 20:52:42
>>612
Good example..
Aso can be a competent diplomat, but I think it's tough for him to refuse Obama's demands.
I think Aso must stand oppressive pressure of the U.S. officials during the meeting.
Creepy...
614名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 20:53:14
lol what's this?lololololol i suggest you go to USA or UK if you want to talk in english.
LMAO you are all too funny LMFAO lolololololololololololololo
btw do you know aly and aj?i love them n thier songs so much.especially "potential break up song"!
see ya
615名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 21:00:11
>>614
Canada, Australia, and other English speaking countries would like a word with you.
616名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 21:09:22
>>614
Thank you, I feel relaxed!
617名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 22:13:57
>>606
Farting is much worse by far. Isn't that the same everywhere?
>>610
The Age of Empire series are pretty good Real Time Strategy games.
Starcaft and Warcraft (Not World of Warcraft obviously) are other popular games in the same genre.
However Starcraft is mainly popular in Korea.
618名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 23:02:19
>>617
Thanks.
I heard burp is considered to be worse in USA so I asked the question.
619名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 23:17:15
>>611
America seems to being attempting to suck money from Japan,
that is to say, we might be regarded as their "wallet".
They might have played up to us by having awarded the winner of Academy to Okuribito.
620名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 23:17:23
I heard burp is impolite as much as furting in China.
621名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 23:26:34
>>620
I wonder how you're pronouncing "fart." It's difficult to misspell it that way.
622名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 23:33:20
Now, my mother named the Aso cabinet "the sales tax cabinet".
She said, the rate of this cabinet gets lower as much as sales tax.
623名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/24(火) 23:42:50
>>622
Your mother has excellent foresight,
what's more, she could be a fortuneteller!
624名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 01:00:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELNfHfKvsc&NR=1

I didn't know he was this fluent in English.
Did he grew up in America?? So he acted he wasn't good at English.
625名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 01:37:55
>>624
I guess he's like my cousin who moved to US when she was 5 and forgot how to speak Japanese.
She still understands what me and her mother are saying in Japanese but always responds in English.
She speaks English like your average American and that's the only language she can hold a meaningful conversation.
I'm sure there is a scientific term for this but can't remember.
Could have googled it, but I'm as lazy as you.

This is particularly interesting to me because my Japanese too is getting rusty, though I don't think I'd completely forget my mother tongue like her.
626名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 01:53:05
I think he still has a very subtle accent, but not a typical thick Japanese one that I know of.
627名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 01:58:50
And he speaks fluent Japanese as well.
628名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 02:06:08
>>627
Link please?
629名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 02:42:54
Dude, it wouldn't take more than two seconds to find a clip on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHvIJTtZQ2g

He's said to have an IQ of over 180. So I guess that explains some of it, too.
630名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 03:44:38
>>629
Thanks. As for his fluency, I think IQ has nothing to do with it.
The dumbest kids in your local kindergarten will acquire their first language without any problem.
Sure he must be very smart, but language acquisition doesn't require intelligence unless you're talking about eloquent orators, novelists and whatnot.

One thing I noticed is his voice gets higher when speaking Japanese.
My friends who are fluent in both J and E all have this tendency and my pitch also becomes higher too.
I wonder if there is any linguistic difference in pitch between J and E.
631電子工学者:2009/02/25(水) 06:33:39
>>630
It probably has something to do with the pitch accent in Japanese.

Or it may have something to do with how the particular way someone talks
is perceived across cultures? How is speaking in a very low pitch
perceived in Japan?
632名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 07:11:27
>>631
Don't think, just feel.
633電子工学者:2009/02/25(水) 07:57:36
>>632
Then will I be Tanasinn?
634アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/02/25(水) 11:05:07
On the topic of Japanese film have you guys heard anything about "TOKYO!" or "Tokyo Sonata"?
Both are going to be screening starting in the next couple months and my friends and I were planning
on seeing them.
I guess I have to see "Okuribito" and "Tsumiki no le" now as well lol.
635アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/02/25(水) 11:18:26
>>617
Starcraft is actually pretty ppular here in the US as well, but obviously to not nearly the same degree as
in South Korea.

Masi Oka is really interesting considering his major was in computer science and he his first job was at ILM.
>>630
We had a student here who was majoring in lingustics but she hasn't posted in a long time...
636アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/02/25(水) 11:21:34
Gah I made a ton of errors in my posts, sorry. My iPod is decent for writing but I wish I could use a real keyboard.
637名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 11:30:59
>>621
Stupid me. I am often confused about some pronouciations related to 'a'.
For example: match and much, fun and fan.
Moreover, l and r are also difficult for me to recognize.
638名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 11:59:41
Incidentally, I think Japan has much different chalacter from the other countries.
Although Japan usually accepts all culture as possible, but the basis of Japan's chalacter never changes.
As a result, Japan has something which is different from the other.
Not to say highly, but to say about strangeness, No country can produce the movie Okuribito without Japan.
That's all I thought about Okuribito.

>>636
Cell phone has so much functions that human beings cannot completely handle it.
I don't grasp all functions of my cell phone.
I'm afraid cell phone in the future will fits up a function as telephone newly.

I cannot see cell phone as telephone.
639English Grammar and Spelling Teacher:2009/02/25(水) 12:32:24
>>638
The correct English word is "character."

Your English is good, but the line
>I'm afraid cell phone in the future will fits up a function as telephone newly.
is very confusing.  As a native English speaker, I have no idea what you mean.
640名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 15:59:08
Cell phone in the future... function as telephon...?
I think he's saying that normal telephones will be extinct and
cell phones will take over...
It's usually very easy for me to understand broken English written by
Japanese people but this one is hard.
641名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 17:34:36
>>625
If that's the case, he spent most of his childhood(even adulthood) in America, right?
I see. That'd make sense.
>>627
He is. I'm not sure if he has trouble reading written Japanese because of kanji and tricky Japanese expressions, though.

>>631
Hmm, I haven't given any thought to that.
I tend to think people would mumble when they speak in a low pitched voice.
But it'd be ok if their speech was acceptable or they speak clearly.

I remember, when Utada Hikaru speaks English, her voice goes down a octave or two compared to when she speaks Japanese.

>>634
I've never heard of either films.
I thought you meant "Tokyo Tower". It was sort of a hit like 2 years ago?
Anyway, who stars the film(s)?

>>636
No problem. lol
I have no trouble understanding.

642名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 17:44:39
>>640
That'd probably be it.
And I guess he meant mobile phones would make more progress than simply talking, and so we couldn't predict in what direction
they would go now.

We can't be sure until he answers, though.
643名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 17:55:31
>>617
I've just checked on Youtube if Warcraft looks good and interesting. And it did.

I wonder if there's SRPG like fire emblem that you can play on the computer.

644名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 18:02:14
What kinds of topics are going on?

Somebody, give me interesting topics!
645名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 18:10:40
>>644
Video games, languages, films, electric gadgets, and so on.

Any topic will do as long as others find interesting.
So go ahead.
646名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 18:23:46
I always get this error when I try to submit a longer post. How do I fix it?

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647名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 18:29:11
Shit. Tried again and got the same error. I'll post it in two separate comments then.

>>641
>I remember, when Utada Hikaru speaks English, her voice goes down a octave or two compared to when she speaks Japanese.

Ah, yes. she's not an exception either. I too am curious why J-E bilinguals all sound maturer when speaking English.
This also occurs a native English speaker speaks Japanese with an English accent.
In this case, his or her voice sounds deeper than the average Japanese.
648名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 18:29:33
Continuation to >>647:

Apparently there are exceptions because we know some Japanese have deep voices and there should be English speakers with adorable voices.
In fact, actors, especially voice actors often change their pitch and tone so that their voice matches characters in play.
But it's very interesting to me changing language can naturally alter a speaker's tone of voice.

I don't know if this is cultural (e.g., the emphasis on politeness may have something to do with higher pitch) or purely linguistic (e.g., English may be phonetically lower in pitch),
but this is why I don't want Japanese girls to reduce their accent; they always sound cuter with the Japanese accent.
649名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 20:02:19
I took the entrance examination of XX university today.
This is what I wrote at the English test.

A question was like this; Write in 70 words as if you were studying abroad and introducing your country to people there.

Japan is a country influence by Buddhism.
If you come here, you would see temples and shrines are ubiquitous. We visit there to make a New Year's resolution
when New Years come around. We also enjoy summer festivals there during summer.
Though many of us are not into religion so much but
we embrace traditional activities.
These days more and more fornigners are participating in our activities, so let's join us without reserve!

I made the most of my ability..
650名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 20:37:48
>>635
How about Romance of the three kingdoms 11?
I haven't played it myself, but the series has been quite popular in Japan.
I'm thinking of playing it now.
651名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 20:41:01
Oh, by the way, the news says that American president Obama and Japanese priminster Aso met today.
Seemingly, they didn't hold a press conference, though.
652金玉儿:2009/02/25(水) 21:16:55
>>650
Is there Romance in your three kingdoms?
I have only one kingdom, and there is Romance also in my kingdom.
My kingdom is my onanizum kingdom.
In my onanizum kingdom, Sekimori Hinowa is a leading part, and she is nakedly keeping to defeats Kagari every day.
This is my vest romance.
653金玉儿:2009/02/25(水) 21:33:46
>>651
This is notification for you American.
Do you know Yoko Osita Yoko the female announcer in Japan?
If Oshita Yoko and Obama fighted each other, Would you think which person win ?
Do you want Oshita Yoko to become the President U.S.?
654名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 21:46:46
>>643
SRPGs or turn-based strategies as I guess they would be more commonly known, are fairly rare on the PC.
Most tactical RPGs are found on consoles such as the DS or Playstations and are ususally just translated Japanese SRPGs.
This is probably due to the fact that Real Time Strategies are more popular here, although everyone has probably played Final Fantasy.
There used to be a lot more PC SRPGs and you can still find a few classics like Fallout 1 and 2.
Such games do still exist on the PC however, here's a link to wikipedia because I'm lazy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_role-playing_game#Tactical_RPGs_on_the_PC
However most of them are crap.
655名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 21:59:54
>>641
>He is. I'm not sure if he has trouble reading written Japanese because of kanji and tricky Japanese expressions, though.

According to the Japanese wiki article about Masi, he can command both Japanese and English at an academic level.
From elementary school through middle school, his mother forced him to attend a Japanese school on weekends
for 9 years where he had to finish a regular weekly curriculum in just one day every week. Also, it is said that he is
fluent in French and Spanish as well. It's not that hard to imagine the man with an IQ of 189 who can handle so much
information could grasp a situation presented in a foreign language (technically his native one, though) and then whip out
his weaponry of vocaburaly to make a witty riposte. Quite simply, he's not just an ordinary man.
656名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/25(水) 23:07:06
The closest thing to Fire Emblem would be Warcraft 3, though it's
a real time strategy and the gameplay is different it's got some
epic fantasy storyline and characters (I think that's what >>643 is looking for).
I got bored after the first several chapters but it's probably just me.
657名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 03:00:37
>>655
I know he's no ordinary human.
He can stop time.
658名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 13:22:47
I find Romance of the Three Kingdoms very complicated and hard. There are a lot of things for me to get used to, such as
many commands to order leaders to do things and how to fight enemies, etc. Actually, this is the first time I've ever played
this type of video game. I failed to complete a tutorial map where you can learn the basics of how to play the game.
Does anyone have tips?
659Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/26(木) 13:47:48
I've been watching Mobile Suit Gundam, the first series of the whole set of series.

The grand story is interesting and Char is fucking fantastic. I can't help but laugh
every time Amuro does something, though. He is such a goofy character.
660名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 14:02:33
>>659
I know there are lots and lots of fans of it in Japan, but for some reason
I've never had a chance to watch any except when I happened to see a piece of the story
on TV. You know, Japanese TV stations sometimes broadcast programs like "collections of animes
that would bring back your memory" where TV talents get together to see their fav anime and talk about it,
or something like that. And all I know about Gundam, though very limited, comes from that kind of TV show.

Did you watch subbed version or dubbed? I'm not sure if dubbed Gundam has ever been made to broadcast in America, though.
661名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 14:04:55
Yeah, I know! You must've watched it on Youtube or any other websites illegally. lol
Illegal Fan subbed Gundam, isn't it?
662Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/26(木) 14:09:59
>>660

with subtitles. i figure i can get the intended experience that way.

by the way, I've noticed there are quite a few shows in Japan where celebrities
just sit around and talk. i remember watching this one show where a few people just
walked around some small town while it was snowing, went into any interesting shops,
and made comical observations about whatever they could find. literally, the entire show
was just that.

a show like that is really bizarre to someone who hasn't watched japanese TV show before.
there aren't any shows like that in America at all. I suppose the closest thing you could find
would be late night talk shows which only have 1 or 2 big name celebrities with each airing.
I suppose the corporate executives don't think a show like that, where celebrities talk and play
games and shit, would be successful in America.

also, on a lot of japanese shows, they show in a little box in the corner the host of the show. i suppose
they do that so that the audience can see his or her reaction. that is another thing which is unique to Japan.
when I first saw that, I thought, "why is there a box with the host? who cares about him?" I suppose it is because
some people must want to see his reaction... perhaps it is like the equivalent of the laugh track.
663名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 14:10:35
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664Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/26(木) 14:22:56
>>663

Char is just a charming guy. What can I say?
I have no idea how good the voice actor is. I'm not good enough with Japanese to
tell how natural he sounded or what else.
Where did I learn about anime? I used to watch some other shows when I was younger
that played on American television. Mobile Suit Gundam was among those played, but
I didn't watch much of it. I decided to try watching some of it again because it is
such a long running show, there must be something special about it.
665名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 14:31:02
>>662
I had been thought that interview style shows (two or three celebrities carry on their conversation)
are majority in America until I read your post.
Also, I gave it the reason like ‘English is logical, so western tv programs highly value conversation style.’

Except for such kinds of Japanese show you cited, Japanese tv programs are quite boring.
I strongly believe they ruin our sense of morality or intelligence.
One reason why they are shit is they are very noisy;we have to listen to background music all time.
Another is celebrities such as comedians don't think nothing other than making audiences laugh by making fun of others.
The reasons are endless. I'm angry at them.

I advice you not to watch Japanese tv shows for a long time even if you should become fluent in Japanese.
666名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 14:32:05
>>662
>I've noticed there are quite a few shows in Japan where celebrities
>just sit around and talk.
Hahaha, nope, we have many talk shows like that. Probably, people overseas are
simply more interested in Japanese game/variety shows. It's natural to me, though.
You need to know a lot about Japanese pop/traditional cultures in order to enjoy their talks.

>they show in a little box in the corner the host of the show.
Hmm, in a little box in the corner? I'm afraid I don't get it.
Do they put their hand(s) into a box with the front side framed with glass where some creatures
like turtles or eels are inside?
667Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/26(木) 14:44:19
>>666
>Do they put their hand(s) into a box with the front side framed with glass where some creatures
like turtles or eels are inside?
Now I'm the one who doesn't know what the hell you are talking about.

Here is an example of what I meant... at 1:54 in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TyYgxTkTEA
668名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 14:44:57
>>664
Talking about Gundam, did you notice the person who voice acted as Amuro has been very popular
and we can watch/hear him voice acting in many other animes?
Off the top of my head, Yamucha (DB/DBZ), Abel(Dragon Quest), Seiya (saint seiya), etc...
I like his voice a lot.
669名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 14:57:04
>>667
Ahhhh, now I see what you meant. lol
Thanks.

>i suppose they do that so that the audience can see his or her reaction.
I've never been told why TV producers do that kind of thing, but I think you're right.


And I'm searching for what videos I meant on youtube, but it seems that type of game is too typical to share or anything.
I can find one now. Still searching.
670名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 15:00:44
Can't, I mean.
671名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 15:03:37
>>667
Now I've found one!

>>Do they put their hand(s) into a box with the front side framed with glass where some creatures
>like turtles or eels are inside?
>Now I'm the one who doesn't know what the hell you are talking about.

http://videosearch.livedoor.com/video_player/0/6970b747702955dad07f23c7aad78c4ef230ef72108ef130d03f7caa8cfee0fc9a64d0f08d9d6ae36ab392c84bbb24e870ff417c660c7d0e4a2fcac7efc810f027f104da15f5ef82?q=%E5%8C%97%E5%B7%9D%E5%BC%98%E7%BE%8E&start=0
672名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 15:07:18
Take off your eye hold, Char. And let us see your true identity!!
673Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/26(木) 15:08:22
>>671

What is up with the black guy on the right? Why does the other guy have long,
blonde hair?

That is really funny. The girl is adorable.
674名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 15:19:21
>>673
Um, I don't know. This is the first time I've seen the show myself too.
The black guy doesn't seem to say anything.

But the guy on the left is Nagura Jun, who's a commedian, and I'm sure he's
wearing a blond wigg to make an expression that it's not his true self or anything.
675名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 15:25:06
676名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 15:29:52
677名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 18:44:42
Drugs make people die inside.
678名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 19:17:55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoOnzwJOAFM

If you are a fan of MLB, this video clip may be interesting to watch.
All star game of NBL 1996, Ichiro was called to pitch in the 9 ining.
679名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 19:27:40
i can't help laughing about it
it's terrible convulsion
sometimes i confused and i think i had the same experience ever before
680名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 19:33:40
Yeah, it's so funny. I think I can't thank you enough to the one that created it.
681名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 19:44:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66tu_qIMbc4&feature=related

May I ask, can you spell out what it says please, native speakers?
682名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 20:34:04
So it seems posting a youtube link is the current fad on this thread. It may be interesting to join you by giving a link to the vid I just watched:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W49LcbGoCwA&NR=1

What do you think of Ron Paul? I know he's fairly popular on the internet and I like him too.
It's not that I'd have voted for him in the last presidential election if I were American,
but what he says is usually clear and lucid. I'm fed up with all those political newspeak devised to obfuscate everything.

Obviously he's too Republican, but to me as a foreigner, he often has a point.
I wonder if other Japanese and foreigners would think the same and if Americans are considering him a crazy fundamentalist.
683名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/26(木) 21:56:45
Char is my all time favorite character. He represents all coolness of mankind.
However, he turns out to be a guy with lolicon plus mothercon in a later series. lol
684real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/02/27(金) 00:06:45
Yeah! A-ROD hit a two run HR!
685名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 00:09:53
>>684
Oh, he wasn't exiled from MBA ?
686real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/02/27(金) 00:23:19
>>685
No, when he had used steroid, while Texas player, I don't know precisely
but maybe it's not prohibited. And his trainer was dealer.
Btw MLB is correct.
687real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/02/27(金) 00:25:41
Oh sorry, I misunderstood the word of "exile".
688real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/02/27(金) 00:30:12
OK, OK, >>685 was irony or something. ha ha.
689名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 01:10:55
>>686-688
Sorry for my late response.
I don't know ‘exile’ is a proper word in this context.
Oops, MLB.. I have to keep it in mind. orz That was not an irony.

Then, he is completely innocent?
690名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 02:41:21
WBC is going to take place within three weeks or so, right?
I'm expecting Ichiro to perform well.
691名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 03:51:11
I don't think that Ron Paul is crazy at all, he has some very clear ideas,
many of which I agree with.

-Abolish the IRS: I'm not so sure about this one, the IRS has proven
itself very useful
-Withdraw forces from abroad: I Absolutely disagree. We have
various allies that basically rely on our support. Besides, I like the idea
of freeing Japan from as many military obligations as possible.
|_On a side note I would like to say that we do not
extort money from allies, that is an appalling accusation
-Cut taxes
|_Corporate tax rates are the second highest in the world, we are
| not facilitating competitiveness on the world stage as a result.
|_Income tax rates are an obvious target for cuts
-Cut most welfare related spending, you must have a job or be
demonstrably physically/mentally disabled if you want welfare aid
-Fully restore second amendment rights, diminish the government's
ability to monitor transmissions: I would argue that allowing the
government to do so would simply overload them with "white noise",
making it an unintentionally good thing.
692ギリギリ君のトリップ変遷 :2009/02/27(金) 04:10:00
ギリギリ君のトリップ変遷

2008/08/29〜2008/10/06
ギリギリ君◆do4o6Lkj.U

2008/10/06
ギリギリ君◆xarpwqYdhk

2008/10/06
準一君◆xarpwqYdhk

2008/10/07
山田君◆D1A7cJqOrA

2008/10/09〜
ギリギリ君◆D1A7cJqOrA ←NEW!!


初期の「◆do4o6Lkj.U」と「◆xarpwqYdhk」が数字のみのトリップ文字列だったため、
あっさりクラックされる。2日の間に何度もハンドルとトリップを変えたためすっかり
信用をなくしたギリギリ君。
その後、1級スレでクラックされにくい文字列の特徴を教えてもらい今に至る。

<参考>
Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 117
http://academy6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1222612115/l50
693名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 04:13:54
USD-KRW 1513.2500 3.3500 0.2219% 12:53

The value of won agaist dollar has been going down, down, and down.
694名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 08:27:28
oh,yeah
695名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 08:44:30
Ron Paul is liked by kids and teenagers because he's stupid enough to go out on a limb with his batshit policies.
They probably see him as radical or something without really considering the horrific and inevitable consequences if his ideas were put into practice.
He's kind of like a Che Guevara for republican kids.
696名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 08:45:46
Ron Paul is liked by kids and teenagers because he's stupid enough to go out on a limb with his batshit policies.
They probably see him as radical or something without really considering the horrific and inevitable consequences if his ideas were put into practice.
He's kind of like a Che Guevara for republican kids.
His decimation in the elections despite disproportionate media coverage seems to be evidence of this.
697名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 09:03:39
With a super relevant analogy and enough evidence to support your argument, your post sounds more full of meaning.
698名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 13:08:23
“They are confident WITH themselves.”
Is this sentense correct?
Since I looked up the usage of “confident”, I know “in” is appropriate, but I could get
thousands of hits when I googled “confident with themselves”.

I'm expecting both of them are right..
Could anyone help with this problem?
699名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 18:10:19
USD-KRW 1533.8000 16.5000 1.0875% 02:51

It's going down, down, and down again today.
It set a year record.
700名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 20:14:47
>>698
Google.com isn't that reliable if you're looking for proper grammar and usage. It'd be better to search GoogleBook or GoogleNews instead.
If I simply googled the usage of confident, your posts in this thread would show up too.

http://books.google.com/books?client=firefox-a&q=%22are+confident+in+themselves%22&btnG=Search+Books
http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=%22are+confident+in+themselves%22
701名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 21:18:59
>>697
With a post dripping with sarcasm and a hypocritical accusation I'm am now in respiratory shock at having been so dramatically 'told' on the internet.
'more full' is a descriptive tautology by the way.
702金玉儿:2009/02/27(金) 21:21:09
When I am tampering with my penis, I can't forget Sekimori Hinowa even for a moment. Sekimori Hinowa is my best onapet.
Sekimori Hinowa is a nice my onapet who appears in Fujita's Manga "Ushio and Tora". Sekimori Hinowa is a littele likes handsome youth.
I am masturbating as intensely as a mad beast while imagining the scene that Sekimori Hinowa and Kagari vie for robustness of their thighs.
I'm dying to compare Sekimori Hinowa's thigh and Kagari's thigh minutely.
703名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 21:23:54
>>700
I understand what you mean.
Please let me know express my gratitude. I decided to make use of above sites.
As to “confident with themselves” or “confident with myself”, I could get about 100 hits as a whole.
However, “confident in” is overwhelming in number, so I assume “in”is proper gramatically.
Anyway, thanks.

704名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 21:23:56
>>701
>descriptive tautology
You're quite unique! Very very unique! Totally!
705名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 21:24:56
oops.
please delete “know”in your brain
706名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 21:26:49
>>703
Um, I kind of understand what you just said, I guess. Good luck anyway.
707名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/27(金) 21:32:34
iPhone is a good shit.
708ギリギリ君のトリップ変遷 :2009/02/27(金) 22:27:54
ギリギリ君のトリップ変遷

2008/08/29〜2008/10/06
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2008/10/06
ギリギリ君◆xarpwqYdhk

2008/10/06
準一君◆xarpwqYdhk

2008/10/07
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初期の「◆do4o6Lkj.U」と「◆xarpwqYdhk」が数字のみのトリップ文字列だったため、
あっさりクラックされる。2日の間に何度もハンドルとトリップを変えたためすっかり
信用をなくしたギリギリ君。
その後、1級スレでクラックされにくい文字列の特徴を教えてもらい今に至る。

<参考>
Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 117
http://academy6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1222612115/l50
709real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/02/28(土) 00:50:02
>>689
Legally he seems to be not guilty.

>>690
WBC first round in Japan is going to start March 5th.
Seeing recent game, I thought ichiro seems to have been a little smaller and less power.
He hits grounder only.
710名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 01:15:22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m8lYswCFGw&feature=related

This is a collaboration of Michael Jackson and Japan's legenday middle-aged
rapper Ikuzo Yoshi.

711名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 02:16:51
>>707
iPhone is an overhyped, overpriced piece of shit
>>704
I'm sorry, could you rephrase that, I don't understand Engrish.
712名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 03:09:06
Does iPhone work in Japan in the first place?
713名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 03:16:02
>>712
Why not?

I don't have one, nor I'm intersted in buying one, though.
SoftBank deals in it.
714Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/02/28(土) 04:40:24
In America, going to the gym is pretty popular because it is so easy to become overweight
and out-of-shape around here. How is it in Japan? From my perspective, it seems like all you
people are just naturally thin.
715名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 05:12:11
>>714
because it is so easy to become overweight
and out-of-shape around here
(笑)
会話でのネイエィブぽさを出したつもりなんだろうが、
会話でもそんなのつかわねぇよww
誰が太りやすいんだよ?(笑)
日本語なら暗にアメリカ人てわかるからあえて明示する必要はないが
英語では明示する必要がある。
省略できる場合も多々あるが使い方による。君の書いたものはそもそも省略不可ですwww
naturally thinあたりはネィティブぽさを出そうとしたんだなwそれはOKだねw
一流国立大で英語得意でしたなんて奴はintrinsicなんて使いそうだなwww
716名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 05:17:57
>>714
>From my perspective, it seems like all you
>people are just naturally thin.
HA, HA, HA! I really wish you were right.
I'm simply fat as whales are. Exercise a lot or enjoy being diabetic. Well, it was a tough choice to make. I decided to go for the first choice. So I've been excercising quite a lot.
717名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 05:19:27
>>715
wtf?
718名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 07:31:03
Talking of Girigiri-Kun, I heard he failed to find a job and after graduating
his F-ranked college, he has no choice but to become NEET.

Oh poor Girigiri-Kun.
719アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/02/28(土) 08:25:15
Why the Japanese hate the iPhone: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2009/why-the-iphone.html
720名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 09:43:44
こっちも利用してあげたら?過疎ってるし、新設だし、アルファベットしか使えないし。

Chat in English part 1
http://gimpo.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dejima/1210160366/
721名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 09:45:03
>>719
This should be the one that you wanted to paste.
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2009/02/why-the-iphone.html

I'm not really knowledgeable about the Keitai market, but the "cultural opposition" conspiracy theory
sounds pretty lame to me... Because the iPod has completely dominated the Japanese mp3 market and
Apple has already established its status as a top-notched brand so far.
722名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 10:42:32
>>721
Maybe because there is a much higher cell phone usage in Japan than the rest of the world.
So they notice what an badly made, overpriced cell phone it really is?
723名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 10:46:59
Looking at stuff like the Panasonic P905i which is readily available in Japan it's hard to see why they would settle for a piece of shit like the iPhone.
724名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 10:47:10
>>714
You are right. Japanese people are thin so in most cases they don't
need to do exercise to get slim.

But some people sure go to the gym. In case of men in their twenties,
the biggest reason to go to gym is to have great build. They know
muscles appeal to some women. They are already slim but got to the gym
to get their muscles bulked up.

In case of women in their twenties, the biggest reason is to get slim.
Despite the reason, they look slim on American standard. They are too much
worried about their figure. Going to gym sounds cool so for some women,
that can be a kind of like fashion statement. This is the case with men, too.

The Japanese society is aging rapidly and some health concious elderly people
go to gym to prevent themselves from being bed ridden in the future. Private gym
companies know this trend and cater to these people.

Gym not only provides training machines such as treadmill but also
provide various exercise program ranging from Aerobics classes to
hip hop dance classes. Some people take these class that can work for
shedding some pounds, rataher, kilos.
725名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 10:48:23
>>714
You are right. Japanese people are thin so in most cases they don't
need to do exercise to get slim.

But some people sure go to the gym. In case of men in their twenties,
the biggest reason to go to gym is to have great build. They know
muscles appeal to some women. They are already slim but got to the gym
to get their muscles bulked up.

In case of women in their twenties, the biggest reason is to get slim.
Despite the reason, they look slim on American standard. They are too much
worried about their figure. Going to gym sounds cool so for some women,
that can be a kind of like fashion statement. This is the case with men, too.

The Japanese society is aging rapidly and some health concious elderly people
go to gym to prevent themselves from being bed ridden in the future. Private gym
companies know this trend and cater to these people.

Gym not only provides training machines such as treadmill but also
provide various exercise program ranging from Aerobics classes to
hip hop dance classes. Some people take these class that can work for
shedding some pounds, rataher, kilos.
726名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 11:57:21
>>714
Not super obese like some Ameriacns are but there are lots of fat out-of-shape
people in Japan too. Japanese people are smaller and take up less space so
they are just not as noticeable as big fat Ameicans. Also there are many seemingly
thin people who have some very ugly fat hanging around their bellies. They just hide
it with clothes.
727名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 13:44:40
>>714
I hope those gyms will turn all the energies produced by the
work-outers into some electricity, or something-Green Energy-
728firestar:2009/02/28(土) 14:30:20
this person says that it is not so much hate of the iphone, but other things. http://blog.nobi.cc/2009/02/my-view-of-how-iphone-is-doing-in-japan-by-nobi-nobuyuki-hayashi.html
729名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 20:39:01
I'm not a big fan of cell phones nor smart phones, so I might not be in a position
to say anything about them, but as I see it, I don't think it's good for SoftBank to sell iPhone for nothing,
a) they charge more money monthly than in the case they sell the gadget at a proper price,
 and you have to pay extra money if you want to stop using one within 2 years.
b) the no-price-for-sale campaign that SoftBank took would impair the image of iPhone, like no one wants to have one
 unless it's sold for free. I'd call it "dumping"..
c) SoftBank has been faced with manegerial problems, say, simply the company has huge debts, and CDS (which indicates
how good/bad a situation companies are in) are quite high - more than 1,700 points the last time I checked. Even though
many Japanese people without interest in business, such as students and housewives, wouldn't believe that since SoftBank
has been putting out a huge amount of advertisment in Japan.
"What if the company will go bankrupt? What will become of my iPhone!?" would be a concern for people who know the truth
about SoftBank.

And these are things that's just come out of my head, and that's just me.
730片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/28(土) 20:42:40
Native speakers, could you give me a comment?
Anyone has nort made any mistakes.
Is this way of saying incorrect?
To me, it sounds very clear and precise.
No one has made any mistakes.
Must this way of saying be done?
731片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/02/28(土) 20:43:39
Native speakers, could you give me a comment?
Anyone has not made any mistakes.
Is this way of saying incorrect?
To me, it sounds very clear and precise.
No one has made any mistakes.
Must this way of saying be done?

732名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 20:56:20
>>729
Anyway, what is your point?(笑)
Scattering so many unnecessary stuff wouldd not help the reader grasp the big picture.
You call for SoftBank to terminate its effective subsidy campaigne or free moble phone marketing gimmick?
Everyone with good judgemnt or sanity doesn't belive the mobile carrier will go under anytime soon, at least a decade.
Were that happen, until then your favorite device would become garbage.
Note CDS, or credit default swap, is kind of insuarance hedging against potential insolvency,
which does not indicate a company's current financial standing, rather the investors' risk-averseness
in a seized up market characterized by extraordinary fears to risks unduly.
733名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 21:11:55
>>732
>Everyone with good judgemnt or sanity doesn't belive the mobile carrier will go under anytime soon, at least a decade.
>Were that happen, until then your favorite device would become garbage.
Should I link you to an economy article?
I think you can find many in a minite if you search on the net.
734名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 21:13:51
Let's express the English word from ASCII Art.
AAで英単語を表現しましょう

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735名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 21:22:10
>>733
Haha, your the ranks of those insane with no sensible judgement.
Obviously, you are a non-native speaker with a poorly educated background.
I canot help but laugh at seeing "an economy article."
Show me the evidence, if you could present it in the first place.(笑)低能は困っちゃうなww
736名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 21:53:34
Don't feed the troll.
737名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/02/28(土) 22:07:48
Why not? Obviously, they are both non-native speakers and having fun. Besides, it's pretty informative.
738名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 08:37:46
Yamanote Halloween Train-History by RoninDave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI8R08Fj7j4

I got sick.
739名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 09:24:26
>>738
He's only doing the right thing, not just for the majority of highly educated foreigners in Tokyo.
Hopefully, the event will bring out its significance in the civil rights struggle under the light of the moon,
and someday the culturally backward people of Japan can foolly appreciate the real liberty that deserves to stand for all.
740名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 09:33:08
>>738
I was reading the comments on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-jNaKHVnTw
It didn't seem like the Japanese appreciated foreigners having fun on their trains at all.
741名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 09:46:07
Japanese or non-Japanese isn't a problem.
Those who think it's Ok to take advantage of good ,though silent, people should have their share of humiliation and punishment.
It's not because like RoninDave said he was gaijin, but because the like of him is a nusance. It's a given that those who think they
can get away with it should be in costody (Japanese or not).
742名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 10:00:54
I'd punch them in the face if I could get away with it.
Those bunch of losers don't have balls to do the same stupid thing in their own countries and are acting like retards in Japan.
The foreign assholes should be ashamed of themselves.
743名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 10:17:37
>>742
Actually what they did is fairly common where they come from. It happens every so often where I am.
So it's slightly bemusing to see people getting so worked up about this stuff. Far from being 'losers' the kind of people who do stuff like this here are the facebook users, the cool crowd.
As far as I can gather the point of doing this is to blur the boundaries of modern life and it's daily routine and bring some kind of special experiance to people.
But I guess all those stereotypes of the Japanese being foolishly uptight and full of repressed seething anger were right after all.
744名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 10:22:21
I absolutely am going to be his dearest,
even though it takes a great deal of time.
745名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 10:47:54
>>743
>Actually what they did is fairly common where they come from. It happens every so often where I am.

Don't know where you're from, but your home town must be shitty.
Sorry, but I didn't know you live in a cesspool.
Please do not assume other places are as fucked up as your seedy den.
746名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 11:00:14
>>745
>do not assume other places are as fucked up as your seedy den

I second that!
747名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 11:06:40
>>743
Oh, hi, basement dweller! I didn't know that kind of thing happens fairly often in your basement. Enjoy your delusion.
748名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 11:13:29
>>745
I'm from Britain, a country famous in the West for it's uptight values and empahasis on politeness in social situations.
Even so I guess it really is a 'seedy den' in comparison to your excessively regulated society where sneezing on a train would require you to commit seppaku.
The thing is our country doesn't ahppen to be the main exporter of the most twisted and disturbing pornography in the world.
I guess if you suppress people's emotions to that extent it's no surprise.
In comparison letting a few idiots wear costumes on the train once a year is a small price to pay.
749名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 11:23:56
>>748
Thank you very much for enjoying our pornography every single day & night!
In return, we'd appreciate it if you morons could be a little more mature and
considerate of others on public transportations.

And if you are too poor to buy Kleenex, you can receive a dozen on the
busy streets for free.

Just FYI, 'seppaku' means 'urgent or imminent,' which is usually used
in a term 'seppaku ryuzan' which means 'threatened abortion.'
750名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 11:28:45
Isn't that famous dude, something Arudo, also from England? That ultra self-righteous ass in Japan.
751名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 11:36:51
>>749
What do you mean 'YOU morons'? These gaijins are all Americans, that would be like assuming all people from the far East are Koreans.
...
Hello Korean dog eaters, your pornography is terrible, it is all censored so no erotic parts are even shown and the bits I do see make me sick to my stomach.
Maybe we will be considerate of others on trains when you are considerate enough of women to not stick eels in their vaginas.
Just FYI, in English seppaku means "ritual suicide", last time I checked we were speaking in English in this thread, no?
752名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 11:40:40
>>750
I google, and unfortunately, Debito Arudou is from Calif.

Well I think where-ever one comes from, he should respect other cultures,
and in our case, we try to keep order of the society.
But then, the sad Akihabara incident happened and Finance minister is
alcoholic.......
We are aware that we have enough problems, it's just that we don't need more problems
coming in from overseas.
753名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 11:44:57
>>751
Oh, you meant 'Seppuku,' not 'Seppaku,' I see.
If you are not sure about a foreign word, I adivise that you
refrain from using it, otherwise, you will just end up making a
fool yourself.
754名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 11:49:30
>>751
Better yet, if you want to show off your knowledge about Japanese,
you'd want say 'Harakiri' instead of 'Seppuku.'
But I can imaging you'll be misspelling it as 'Harikiri' which
means 'be in high spirits.'
HAHA!
755名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 11:51:11
>>752
Thanks. For some reason, I thought he was from the U.K..
Anyway, I think this lady from Britain is just hungry or very upset about something else, then has decided to
take it out on random people here. I hope she feels better.
756名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 11:53:20
>>753
>end up making a fool yourself.
>end up making a fool OF yourself.
Can I introduce you to another foreign word? It is called 'irony'.
As for the finance minister thing, I would much rather our finance directors were drunk.
It might be an acceptable excuse for having lost such gargantuan amounts of our money. Bastards.
With respect to keeping "order of society" I remember reading that this is something Hiroyuki is famously against.
When you are posting on his website, shouldn't you respect his culture?
757Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/03/01(日) 12:01:17
Is a party like that which was held by the foreigners on the train something which is
unusual in Japan? Parties like that are commonplace in America and western Europe (although
not usually on a train). I guess they decided to have that party on the train because Japan is
famous for their trains. If the Japanese aren't used to parties like that, I can see why they
would be frustrated. In my opinion, they should lighten up a bit. Those people weren't harming
anyone.
758名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 12:01:29
>>755
>is just hungry or very upset about something else

LOL~~
759名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 12:03:42
>>757
People would go to a club or a live-house to have fun. Just like you don't throw a party in the library.
760名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 12:05:19
>>757
Are you sure you guys have those types of parties in public places?

I could careless if people have any party in their private property,
but in public places, I think they should think of other people who have
nothing to do with it.
761名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 12:06:32
>>759
>Just like you don't throw a party in the library

Ditto, LOL~~
762名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 12:19:14
A library is supposed to be a quiet, almost reverential, place, of course no-one throws a party there.
Trains however are, by their nature, busy, noisy and crowded. Still if you treat your trains like libraries then is there any public place you are allowed to relax in?
Probably not, since everyone is thinking of others no-one is ever allowed to relax for a second.
Keep pretending you're robots and maybe you'll grow metal skin.
763名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 12:21:50
>>762
A park maybe, if you cannot afford clubbing in Tokyo.
764名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 12:27:15
>>762
Our trains are crowded, but quiet.
People are not even allowed to talk on a mobile phone on the trains,
because one tends to ignore the surroundings and starts to speak very
loud. (No mistake, this rule has not been imposed by the authorities,
but there were many complaints about loud phone-conversations on the trains,
which lead the establishment of the rule).

And I don't think puplic places are for you to relax.
You go home and relax, no?
765名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 12:41:44
>>764
The very idea of rows of passengers sitting in silence, not permitted to speak to the friend next to them seems absurd.
Yes, I would be more relaxed at home but I see now why NEETs prefer to stay at home rather than march around in silence outside, pretnending to be robots.
Travelling around with friends, visiting shops, chatting, eating, relaxing, these things are fun.
To think of not being permitted to do this merely because someone else may be slightly irritated, well they can go hang.
Life isn't enjoyable at all if you can only relax with no-one else around, honest human interaction is as essential to happiness as breathing.
Maybe you wouldn't have one of the highest suicide rates in the world if you didn't believe social order was vastly more important than happiness.
766名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 12:49:27
>>765
You really must be very hungry. Please read it carefully.
We ARE allowed to talk to the friends sitting next to each other, just
that talking on a mobile phone on the trains is not allowed due to the
reasons mentioned above.
767名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 12:55:01
>>766
I must have been thrown by the hyperbolic analogy to libraries, because, of course, no-on eis permitted to make a noise in a library.
How uncouth of you to fill the train with your disrespectful nattering, truely you live in a seedy den.
768名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 13:10:46
I'm getting bored with this troll. Let me play among the real stars now.
769名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 13:10:59
>>767
Are you a NEET?
770名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 13:24:21
>>769
If you listen to the previous poster I'm a basement dweller, but he's probably just being tsun-tsun.
771名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 13:32:42
Na, you just started repeating the same stuff, which was what I found pretty boring. Keep up the good work though.
772名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 13:41:40
Are words such as 'hyperbolic,' 'uncouth' and 'reverential' in everyday
use?
To a non-native speaker of English, those words are big words.

Or, is it so that NEETs prefer big words, pretending to be intellectual?
That actually is the case in Japan for some types of NEETs.
773Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/03/01(日) 16:13:40
Restricting talking though in a public area? I don't think an idea like that would ever
fly in America. Japan sure is a different place if everyone just accepted a prohibition
like that without a fuss.
774名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 16:27:28
Troll harder.
775名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 16:29:09
>>773
It was not that we "accepted it," but rather, general public "demanded" the rule
to be implemented.
I undersatnd it sounds a bit going too far for you, but if you are
on the train every day, I think you will understand how we feel about
the very loud conversations.
776名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 19:15:25
http://academy6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1218442480/l50

Please check this thread, too. I've just posted a question regarding transcribing.
Thanks.
777名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 19:46:07
I'm the 777th poster!! Lucky 777! It's me!
Say good things to me!!!
778名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 20:10:41
>>777
Congrats!
You've just used up all your luck of life on 2ch.
Have a wonderful life!
779firestar:2009/03/01(日) 20:25:02
sure is trolls trolling trolls here.
I woke up at 02:00 and have been up since. it's now 06:22. just can't sleep.
780名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 21:15:01
>>779
Hello we need help... we serious... this woman person
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhUXdmaJlWA&feature=related
What she say?
781firestar:2009/03/01(日) 21:22:36
>>780
uh hard to understand her with that music
"i was *?* with myself, *?* how i can still pray"
782firestar:2009/03/01(日) 21:26:22
>>781
actually i found a higher quality vid on youtube and can now understand her more.
"i would sacrifice myself, god how i can still pray"
i think this
783名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 21:30:05
>>781
This one is easier to listen to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68IwyYITwek&feature=related

I would sacrifice myself, God, but I can still pray.
784名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 21:31:13
>>782
Thank you very mach
785名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 21:36:16
>>783
This very good quality audio... Old bad video is very badded quality...
786名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/01(日) 22:06:19
CORNSHIT
787名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 03:58:22
I would have said "I would sacrifice myself, God, while I can still pray".
788アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/03/02(月) 04:01:19
Heyo I see we're debating the Yamanote party train again. I've taken trains in Japan and I take the
train regulary here in the States. I think most people in metropolitan cities here would be just as annoyed
about a party spontaneously starting in their train. Also I remember conversing all the time on the train
in Japan so the notion of Japanse people being a robot society is bullshit. Anyways, I think a good solution
to the party train controversy would be for JR to rent a car out to these people and then everyone wins.

Last night I went to a Korean BBQ restaurant and had some delicious kimchi. I know you're all jealous.

789名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 04:16:31
yakiniku is actually a japanese invention korean
insist some strange history of.
790名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 06:54:06
> for JR to rent a car out to these people and then everyone wins.
791名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 07:07:31
Oops
> for JR to rent a car out to these people and then everyone wins.

This is least likely to work, because
1) none of them could read a Japanese sign that guides them into the car.
2) they would jump on the claim that this is an unconstitutional segregation procedure by JR.
3) it would take away the original fun of harrassing the Japanese passengers.

I had to refute your idea because you made me mad jealous.
792米人:2009/03/02(月) 07:22:21
Wow, I have been away for a while.

>>411 >>412
I went to Cornell, but I'm not sure I would still get in if I applied now.
So many schools have become so competitive in recent years.
I loved it there, but it isn't for everybody. It rains a lot, and the
winter is really long.
Best of luck to both of you in your college search!
BTW, even though the Greek scene is huge, it is easily avoided. The
campus is very diverse--you will find your own niche.

The Yamanote train idiots again. I'm so sick of them, and they aren't even
from around here.
That kind of nonsense would NOT fly in Boston. People are quiet on the
trains here, usually. Exceptions are the drunk Red Sox fans after a home game,
and holidays like New Years Eve or the 4th of July.

I missed my Japanese lessons so much, I started again with a new teacher.
This is Teacher #4. We're back at a Starbucks, but a different one.
My new teacher is an artist.
Poor musicians and artists forced to get by teaching Japanese lessons on the side
to housewives and anime otakus.
I guess it's better than working at McDonalds though.
793名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 10:03:32
>>792
Wow you are from IV league.
>Greek scene

What does it mean? I think I've heard it though.
Is it a kind of club in uni whose names are alpha, Zeta and such Greek alphabet?

How do you find a Japanese teacher? On the Net?
I'd recommend you find a college student whose major is linguistic
or something rather than an artist. Being able to speak Japanese doesn't mean
he/she's a good teacher.
794名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 10:15:14
>>792
What's your majour?
795名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 10:44:54
What's become of the UFO falling onto America?
Is there any extra report?
796名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 11:01:25
>>792
You must be proud because Cornell has many notable alumni there!
Among others, George Licoln Rockwell must be your best hero.

Oooops! Sorry. It's my mistake. George Lincoln Rockwell was
from Brown University, not from your alma mater.
I didn't mean to insult Geroge Lincoln Rockwell. He
was the man to come around every 100 years.
And his glorious cause still lives in your heart.
Continue the fight! Good luck!
797名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 11:07:22
>>793
It means he is not clever enough to get into a real college.
UFOs fall on the USA all the time because they realise people the are too stupid to notice
798米人:2009/03/02(月) 11:57:37
>>793
The Greek scene refers to fraternities and sororities.
Due to the shortage of dorm rooms, many people join them just
to get a cheap place to live (the alternative being a crummy
apartment in Collegetown).
Yes, these are the groups with the Greek letters. Each house has
its own atmosphere. If you're familiar with the old movie "Animal
House", you'll know what I'm talking about.

I found my Japanese teacher through Craigslist, but not to fear, she's
taught several students, plus we are working from a textbook.
Her teaching ability is more than adequate--remember, I'm only a beginner,
so we're still doing very basic stuff.

>>794
Biology.

>>796
Among Cornell's very distinguished alumni are Anne Coulter and Keith Olbermann.
Do you know them?
799米人:2009/03/02(月) 12:05:08
Oops, I misspelled Ann Coulter's name in >>798.
Shame on me.
800名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 12:17:25
>>798
Greek scene is what I thought it is. Thanks.
Didn't know the movie, animal house.
801名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 14:14:39
I liked John Belushi, especially his mimicking of
Samurai, but he is dead...sad...
I also liked Rosannadanna....but she is also dead...sad...
802名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 14:37:55
Never mind.
803名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 16:20:52
Ann Coulter! I knew of her. I know she made a such comment
that the jews would be "perfect" if they became christian.
Also she made a very insulting and provocative comment about
japanese.

But sorry, she is far behind Commander George Lincoln Rockwell.
She is another bogus conservative or neocon.
804名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 16:21:22
And Christian right.
805名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 16:36:41
How did 米人 afford the tuition?
I remember she said she was not from a wealthy family.
Did 米人 use scholarship?
806名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 18:23:20
>>792
The drunk 阪神 fans are also formidably noisy on their way home from the 甲子園 ballpark.
They literally never cease singing 六甲颪 at the top of their voices on the trains after a victorious game.
807名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/02(月) 20:08:34
USD-KRW 1572.5000 39.0000 2.5432% 05:05

It's going down, down, down, down and down
808米人:2009/03/02(月) 21:17:01
>>805
You forget how old I am. I went to college before the tuition rose into
the stratosphere.
I had a little scholarship money and some student loans. I worked 15-20
hours per week during school to pay for my living expenses (which I kept
as low as I could). Since I worked in the dining halls, I got free food
for some meals. I bought used textbooks when I could.
I didn't have anything fancy or expensive, and I lived in crummy apartments.
That was how I did it.
But with the price of tuition so high now, I'm not sure if I could afford
the same college without going deeply into debt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9JYq-mXprw
John Belushi, what a talent, such a loss.
809名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/03(火) 02:28:36
Bill White(national socialist)>Kevin Alfred Strom(white separatist and cosmothiest)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>George Lincoln Rockwell(hollywood nazi)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ann Coulter(white christian right)
810アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/03/03(火) 02:31:43
Hey 米人!It's been awhile. I visited Cornell and it's a great school that I think would be a good choice for me.
I'm just on pins and needles now with a month to go to hear from the rest of my colleges.

Oh what about Bill Nye! He's by far the coolest Cornell alum. Although it is hilarious that Coulter and Olbermann are
products of the same school lol.
811名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/03(火) 03:14:10
   人     
  (__)    
  (__)   
 ( __ )
 ( ´-∀-) < Well, Obama gave some of the US's land to China as
 (つ旦⊂) collateral. If the US cannot pay back a loan they owe
 と_)_) to China, the US belongs to China.
812名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/03(火) 03:16:46
   人
  (__)
  (__)
 ( __ )
 ( ;-∀-) < This is unforgivable.
 (つ旦⊂)
 と_)_)
813名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/03(火) 04:03:36
>>811
You should attach the news source.
814名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/03(火) 05:34:32
Somebody, talk about Daw industrial average!!
The world is now faced with an unprecedented crisis!
815名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/03(火) 05:45:16
Haha. When I watched AC360 on CNN, they said GDP had fallen more than 6% in 2008.
816Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/03/03(火) 07:46:21
I can't wait until the U.S. belongs to China. Long live glorious China!
817名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/03(火) 08:16:05
You can always fight for independence of Tennessee.
818名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/03(火) 08:59:05
What do you think of Anderson Cooper's accent and speech pattern?

I'm trying to acquire various English accents such as RP and general American.
What I'm doing is mimicking native speakers of the dialects I want to learn.
I have several friends in England, and I think I'm getting better at British accents by imitating them.
But I'm planing on living in the US for a while and decided to learn some American accent
so that I can make Americans laugh by switching English and American back and forth.

So I'm looking for a "role model" to mimic an American dialect.
Unfortunately, my American friend has a unique voice and it's really hard to imitate.
Besides, he speaks a little too slow for me; I'm a fast talker no matter if it's Japanese or English.

I've been looking around on the internet, and I thought Anderson would be the best model because
1)he speaks fast, and not too fast,
2)he's professional when it comes to speaking,
3)there are lots of videos I can exploit,
4)I'm male too; it'd be awkward to imitate a female.

The thing is, I found tons of derogatory comments that he's gay. Does he sound gay?
Or is it just another stupid gossip? I'm afraid I might sound gay if I mimic him.

I'm glad if you can let me know what you think of him and recommend to me some good speakers.
819名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/03(火) 09:10:26
I forgot to mention I'm looking for a good speaker of a "rhotic" American dialect.
But come to think of it, it might be interesting to learn non-rhotic accents like the typical NYC accent.
I think it'd be nice if it contrasts with the dialect spoken in London.
820Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/03/03(火) 12:56:53
>>778

I found this to be highly humorous. The Japanese have a unique sense of humor.
821カナダ人:2009/03/03(火) 14:17:53
I got accepted into University! I'm very happy right now.
This means I don't have to prostitute in Thailand to make a living.
822firestar:2009/03/03(火) 15:13:34
>>818
AC has a very distinct speech pattern. my brother and i noticed this pattern is also in his writings, such as in his book. he does not sound gay though.
the way he talks almost reminds me of the way one tells a childrens' bedtime story because of the way he describes things by putting emotion into them.
but not in anyway childish sounding. he is a very good public speaker.
my brother and i agree that he speaks slowly.
my father and i have always liked the way steve jobs speaks and i always try to watch his speeches and keynotes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1R-jKKp3NA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUeM6FBInfw
i try to model myself off his keynote speech presentation style.
after i started doing this i started being told that i was a fairly good public speaker,
so i guess it worked!
I also think glenn beck and rush limbaugh are good public speakers.
they tend to put a more casual style into their public speaking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNS8IY_Td14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qtvtBGWgBc
cooper and the examples i gave are more so some of my favorite public speakers. they are trying to present information and thus talk in such a manner.
for everyday speech you might not want model yourself off a public speaking style.
maybe start skyping people for that?
823名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/03(火) 15:42:36
>>821
With a good command of Japanese, people would notice there are actually many humorous/informative posts in 2ch that are worth reading for fun.
But I think those who don't read the language would be happier since there are as many shitty ones that are worse than wasting time in the long run.
824名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/03(火) 17:40:44
>>821
Congraturations *craps*
825名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/03(火) 17:55:28
      人
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826名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/03(火) 22:43:48
     Other`s unhappy makes me lucky
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       キタ━━━//・\ ./・\\━━━━!!!!
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      ノ\ __ノ   _ノ   \   / | ノ \ ノ L_い o o
827名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/03(火) 23:18:47
One man's pain is another man's gain.
828名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 00:34:16
>>822
Thank you. Your reply was really helpful and reminded me of Steve Jobs.
Coincidentally I always use Keynote when I give a talk, and I like his speech too.

Glenn Beck seems to be another good speaker. I don't often watch FOXNews,
but actually I prefer informal styles to traditional Japanese speech patterns.

I think I'll try to imitate AC first and then incorporate a bit of other styles like Glenn Beck's talk.
Steve Jobs's speech pattern is very attractive, but I think it works better when you're talking about something as attractive.
Sometimes I have to give a talk about boring stuff that I don't like either.
In short, I have to fake enthusiasm...

I think the AC style with a dash of other informal styles would be best to put emotion and avoid a noxious reek of fake enthusiasm.
829real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/03/04(水) 01:13:18
I know Rush Limbaugh.
The people who live in Tokyo or Kanagawa can listen his radio program in American Forces Network.
Today he talked about education and criticized Obama.
830名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 01:50:29
Paul Harvey must have been a good guy.
I assumed without any substantial reason that
he was a liberal commentator.
It seems that he was not that simple guy.
Notable conservative columnist Hal Turner deplored his death, which means Paul Harvey
is an reliable and truthful man.
Paul Harvey was a regular commentator on FEN or AFN as well as
the conservative guy mentioned earlier in this thread.
The End of the Story was broadcasted at intervals.
I couldn't follow the story and didnot focus on listening at the time.

831名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 01:54:05
Teacher stabbed in front of 20 students - student charged
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10559746&pnum=2

>There were 32,000 law-abiding, honest and trustworthy Koreans living in this country
>and it was important not to tarnish the reputation of a large group of foreign students
>who were coming to study in New Zealand, or indeed the Korean people, because of
>the actions of one person, he said.

The news reminds me of what happened in Versinia Tech..
Not to generalize, but it seems lots of Korean people suffer from mental illness called hwabyeong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hwabyeong

>Hwabyeong, literally "anger illness" or "fire illness”, is a Korean term for a kind of culture-bound
>somatization disorder, a mental illness. It manifests as one or more of a wide range of physical symptoms,
>in response to emotional disturbance, such as stress from troublesome interpersonal relationships or life crises.
832名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 02:05:19
>>829
I heard that he wants Obama to fail.
Obviously, he doesn't know what he is saying.
833名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 02:09:43
>>831
If the Korean guy had guns, all those 20 students in class would have been killed too..
834名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 02:11:32
Likening Bush to monkey is joke while likening Obama
to monkey is criminal.
835名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 02:14:38
What do you guys listen to the U.S. force propaganda station for?? Wanna be brainwashed?
836名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 02:20:04
>>833
Thank goodness. No, it was horrible.
I guess they were screaming at the crime scene.

>>835
I don't listen to it.
837名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 03:11:21
   人     
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  (__)   
 ( __ )
 ( ´-∀-) < Here is the source. I can't find a better one right now.
 (つ旦⊂) http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2008/11/forced_convergence_of_china_an.html
 と_)_)
838名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 03:45:06
>>835
Which channel are you talking about?
If it's CNN, sure I watch AC360. But it's not a news program per se.
Anderson Cooper is not so much a reporter or an anchor as a pop star.
I'd buy porn staring Anderson and Erica. I don't give a crap about U.S.

I guess it's you that are brainwashed. Not everyone is watching news media for news.
839名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 04:15:06
Buddy, don't be paranoid, I said "listen to"...
840名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 04:29:50
Hello! 7th graders!
841名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 04:47:40
>>839
"listen to"? All right, then, do you really think a lot of people are listening to news as you claim?
842名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 04:55:36
>>841
Exactly. I was only referring to the damn radio station which was mentioned as "AFN".
In other words, I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU. ok? I'm going to sleep. Good night.
843名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 05:17:31
>>842
Word.
844名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 06:01:59
>>842
When you speak to a specific group of people, please say so clearly.
It might just be me, but your post sounded to me as if you were referring to users of this thread in general
and claiming that quite a few people are listening to news media biased in favor of the US.

I also recommend you choose your word carefully. In my humble opinion, swearing and caps lock only make you look small.
What if I said, "Shut your filthy mouth when you're too retarded to make yourself understood."?
Certainly this simple line succinctly describes what you are, but it is not productive or helpful and only creates an hostile atmosphere.
845名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 11:26:19
As someone mentioned AFK before, I don't listen to it.
But about a half year ago I bought a CD of AFK news as a way of learning English.
If I remember correctly, it costed about 1000 yen.
846名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 11:57:42
Has Ozawa been framed, or is he a real bad guy?
At least, he looks bad, lol
847名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 12:30:17
>>844
Shut your filthy mouth when you're too retarded to make yourself understood.
848Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/03/04(水) 13:32:57
This may be a weird question but how would one say "I want to be a little girl."
in Japanese?
849名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 13:37:10
私は小さい女の子になりたい。
Are you a lolicon?
850名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 13:42:48
>>849
LOL

complex
851Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/03/04(水) 13:52:51
>>849

Yea, I'm asking so I can communicate with other lolicons all in Japan!
852名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 14:00:59
Good luck.
853名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 14:01:46
Best of luck
854firestar:2009/03/04(水) 14:02:36
>>851
hmm?
just what are you up to?
855名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 14:06:27
>>851
Oh, are you thinking of changing your gender?
Then you should learn how to say it in Thai or Morocco-French, lol
856名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 14:50:10
Is it true that the president of democratic party Ozawa Ichiro was involved in a plot ?
857名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 15:14:44
>>851
In that case, you should learn proper pedo grammar.
"I want to be a loli" is 幼女になりてぇ, where 幼女 (loli) is pronounced "yo jaw" and
てぇ is a stretched-out て (You should stretch the vowel part of て as long as possible to best express your insatiable lust).
858名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 15:20:31
Fuck me!
859名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 15:31:03
>>858
Wipe your ass, faggot.
860名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 18:39:38
Apparently the Ozawa, head of the Democratic Party, screwed up big time.
There's no chance for them to win the next election any more. We're headed straight for hell.
It's not that the Democratic Party is better than the fucked up current ruling party,
but we need a party that is as influential to balance the Government.
We may have to flee this country before it's too late.

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssIndustryMaterialsUtilitiesNews/idUST2333720090304?sp=true
861名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 19:39:34
What Ozawa said in the press conferenss didn't make sense.
He said he made public his earnings and expencises and so there was no problem on his part,
but the important thing here is whether he asked and accepted bribery, and he's suspected he
did so. Is he an idiot?? I was at a loss for words when I heard his excuses.
862名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 19:49:40
>>861
Probably he meant everyone knew he was clear because he didn't hide anything.

What really makes no sense whatsoever to me is this line:
"It's a conspiracy! Why did they arrest my aides right before the election?! The ruling party is abusing its power!!"
863名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 19:56:24
>>>860
Don't worry.
The police would reveal another scandal for which a members of the Liberal Democratic party is responsible.
864名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 20:01:53
>>863
Ah, you're so smart.
865名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 20:02:08
>>862
>because he didn't hide anything
Shit! He wasn't telling the truth! lol
Though, of course, I understand what he had in mind.
Why could he say all that he hided?

>It's a conspiracy
Bullshit! lol
866名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 20:08:35
>>865
>Why could he say all that he hided?
>he hided?
>hided

I goed to school and learned grammar. You doed not.
867金玉儿:2009/03/04(水) 20:26:37
>>860
>>861
I think Koike Yuriko is aiming at post Aso.
I cannot be patient if Yuriko Koike wil be become the Prime Minister.
Though I don't opposite to becoming of woman the Prime Minister, I hate Koike Yuriko, Sato Yukari, and Katayama Stsuki, and vomit with Yuriko Koike
I'm able to be patient Diet member today is Seiko Noda.
I want TV Asahi announcer Osita Yoko or South Korea figure skater Kim Yuna to become a Prime Minister if possible.
868片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/03/04(水) 20:30:25
Could any native speaker tell me if there's any difference in the meanings between these?
I want my shirt to be washed.
I want my shirt washed.
869金玉儿:2009/03/04(水) 21:08:15
>>868
Sukichi-kun, do you like Osita Yoko?
Sukichi-kun, who do you like best among the female TV announcer?
Isn't it Osita Yoko?
870名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 21:16:40
>>868
Since you asked native speakers that, I only correct your interrogative sentence there:
"in the meanings" should read "in meaning."

Oh, and sop bullshitting beginners on 2ch. You're annoying.

Ah, one more thing. You'll never speak a foreign language fluently. Your learning method and attitude are failure-prone.
No matter how many years you may spend, you'll come out sounding like a broken machine translator.
871名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 21:27:52
Woo, keep doing whatever you're doing to me!
Give it to me, give it to me, give it to me, baby!
872金玉儿:2009/03/04(水) 21:28:11
I have noticed because I touch my penis just now.
It is a thing that my penis is as soft as "Konnyaku".
However, my penis gradually becomes hard while rubbing it, It's very mysterious.
Is there a guy who is interpretable of this mystery?
873Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/03/04(水) 22:40:06
>>857

Thank you sir.
874名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 22:44:09
>>873
My pleasure.
875名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 23:08:31
This thread is fucked up good.
876名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/04(水) 23:24:38
>>868
The first sentence just means you want your shirt to be washed.
The second sentence implies that you want the person you're
talking with to do it.

To give some examples:

Example 1:
A. I want my shirt to be washed.
B. I see, good luck with that.

Example 2:
A. I want my shirt washed.
B. I'm not your servant!

Of course, context and tone of voice are important as well,
but that's the immediate impression the words give.
877名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/05(木) 01:27:26
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879名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/05(木) 04:13:09
>>877
Do you really think so?
On second thought, you shouldn't.
No, I don't mean to blame you. It's just like I mean to say,
’Hey, are you kidding?’or something.
That totally makes sense, doesn't it?

Why, I knew you wouldn't admit it.
Really!!!
I knew it from the begining.
The way you pulled it through... It seemed like you were
Encouraging us to do the same thing as you did, didn't it?

Very thought of it made me sick. You know what I mean?
Eeeeek, you shouldn't have tried to make us do anything..
Right minded people would agree with me.
That's why I'm replying to you. Got it?
It's all because you made a typo.
Corresponding with you like this would be meaningful to the rest of us,
as we can get directly across to you
like I do, you know. So please don't take me too
lightly. You'll be sorry if you do.
Yes, of that I'm sure. See you!
880名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/05(木) 07:36:29
I am constipated. Suck my ass, please.
881名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/05(木) 10:17:27
Lol @ people who are still virgins
Enjoy never experiencing the warmth of a nice pussy
around your cock, faggots
882Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/03/05(木) 13:38:43
>>881

fleshlights don't count.
883firestar:2009/03/05(木) 14:10:16
don't feed the troll
884名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/05(木) 22:56:59
>>883
2ch: Never leaving home = "Sweet man!" Having sex = "Douchebag fag"
Oh, never change, nerds
885real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/03/06(金) 00:38:32
Do everyone know "i ta sya"?
These are cars painted the characters in anime, video game, and internet.
Below is a example.
http://mainichi.jp/enta/mantan/graph/anime/20071009/1.html
If I try to translate this word, "a painful car" or "a shameful car" will be fit
886名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/06(金) 00:51:46
>>885
I'd say it's a weeaboo car.
887名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/06(金) 00:53:12
Ah, I assumed the car was owned by an American.
888名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/06(金) 20:09:28
What are you doing?
Wanna go dancing with me tonight?
889名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/06(金) 20:21:11
>>888
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.
-Plato
890金玉儿:2009/03/06(金) 22:03:21
I'm worried about that my penis is unruly. It's very rascal!
Because my penis is usually soft as "Konnyaku", my penis gradually becomes hard while rubbing it.
What do you think of this phenomenon?
I would like to pick my penis up the thumb and the forefinger and draw it through my fingers.
Of corse, I do it while seeing Sekimori Hinowa and Osita Yoko and Kim Yu-na's photographs.
891リュカ ◆DNTtxUxzT. :2009/03/06(金) 23:40:28
NicoNico-Video?
are you insane who have habit whaching something usualy?
this site always ridiculous lagging and always make me irretable!!
892名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/07(土) 01:29:50
NicoNico users are not cultured, and they are immature.
893名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/07(土) 08:57:37
also, on a lot of japanese shows, they show in a little box in the corner the host of the show. i suppose
they do that so that the audience can see his or her reaction. that is another thing which is unique to Japan.
---------------------
Yeah! I hate it! I try to look away from them or change the channel.
Irritating.
TBS sunday morning is typcal of this kind of show. Celebs are reactioning
how they do look on tv screen .
I think this trend is only a decade old or so. Not a long tradition of
japanese tv program.
I guess just letting calebs chatting each other is very easy and conveninet job
for tv producers.
In general japanese tv shows lacks creativity. Just keeping the masses
fool and addicted with foolishness is one of their techniques to
exploit the masses.
894名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/07(土) 09:03:41
More plainly I wanted to say that Celebes pay attentions to
how they look on TV while they react to something.

And there was a typing mistake. convenient.

895名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/07(土) 09:08:07
Besides, NHK doesn't have such a TV program that plays a box
in the coner, as long as I know.
NHK is a public broadcast station and a bit smarter than private broadcast
stations.
896名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/07(土) 09:20:41
Yamucha (DB/DBZ), Abel(Dragon Quest), Seiya (saint seiya), etc...
------------------
Hey, don't forget hyuma hoshi(star of the giants!) which sold
his name first. hyuma hoshi and amuro are his most famous roles.
hyuma hoshi has the same mentality with amuro, weak and whining and
easily overconfident at times.
897名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/07(土) 18:51:20
Amuro Namie is adorable.
898名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/07(土) 23:57:01
Today Japan's national baseball team beat Korean team by 14 - 2.
And Korean people seem to be attacking 2ch now.

>653 動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる sage New! 2009/03/07(土) 23:25:38 ID:ihZK/te/P
>mamono鯖は韓国のIPから高頻度アクセス(多分F5攻撃)を受けています

Hmm, the same thing happened when Mao Asada won a figure skate competition...
Not again... The Korean people must be provoked by VANK, or the infamous cyber terror organization
financed by the Korean government.
For the record, in the past, VANK encouraged Korean people to conduct cyberterror against FIFA's official website
and resulted in Korean IPs being blocked from the site.
899Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/03/08(日) 03:58:17
I don't understand the hatred and rivalry between Korea and Japan. It isn't a
matter of race, but a matter of history, right?
900名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/08(日) 04:08:41
>>899
No. It is certainly a matter of race.
901名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/08(日) 04:21:22
>>899
Less than 0.0001% of young Japanese and Koreans hate each other in real life.
And 99.99876% of people find those hatred on the internet ridiculous and ludicrous.
I vouch for the veracity of this statistics.
902名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/08(日) 04:58:03
やっほー!
みんな元気かい?
今日もノリノリでいこうぜ!
903名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/08(日) 05:51:58
>>902
See >>889.
904アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/03/08(日) 08:29:06
>>899
Could it have something to do with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule ?
905名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/08(日) 16:14:43
>>899
I'd be happy if they didn't attack after the baseball match, though.

I've never heard Russian people conducted cyber terror after America's representative beat theirs in a figure skate competition.
Or is it just because I happened to miss such news?

I don't understand why such conduct needs to be done.
906名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/08(日) 16:29:54
907名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/08(日) 16:36:09
>>899
I think you'll understand when you are faced with a nation called Korea.

http://www.geocities.jp/bxninjin2004/restroom/01/KoreanSolving.html
908名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/08(日) 16:55:49
Thanks to spending a lot of time here, I've absorbed many knowledge and could pass the entrance exam.
I decided to learn Chinese as a second foreign language.
I'm looking forward to it.
909名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/08(日) 16:57:55
Knowledge isn't countable, so you can't say many knowledge.
910名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/08(日) 17:21:36
Ah, thank you. I got it.
911名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/08(日) 18:17:10
In every March or April, I feel eagerness to start something new.
For example, I have commuted by bycycle in these days.
Learnig English too.

912名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/08(日) 18:34:54
>>899
I don't know, but these videos explain how extreme Korean people go in order to
make others feel sick. But I think it's lucky American people don't have to deal with
Korea in a direct way.

Anti-America Festival in Seoul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTxlcP7PAzg&feature=related

Korean national pastime "Flag burning"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rydYjrbPeBM

Anti-America Education in South Korea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx6V0YHNxSI&feature=related

Fucking USA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhBVWgPWJRM&feature=related
913名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/08(日) 19:51:54
http://gimpo.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/news4plus/1236508442/l50

I'm sure the next target Korea is aiming for will be England, cause Korea says "Economist" has been
spreading a vicious rumour about Korean economy, no matter how true the data analysis was.
Beware, England.
914Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/03/09(月) 02:21:35
>>912

Wait... why is Korea protesting the US? Korea is US-lite.

>Fucking USA

lol pretty boys
915Dustin:2009/03/09(月) 14:53:12
What's going on in here?
916名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/09(月) 20:07:45
>>915
I cannot understand.


by the way, have you ever been to CHIRAN?>ALL
I went there yesterday...

I couldn't read the last letter of TOKKO-TAI because of my tears...
917片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/03/09(月) 20:13:45
Native speaker, could you help me?
918片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/03/09(月) 20:22:34
This morning, I recieved your letter [ [ which ] you had called me yesterday and said [ that you had had sent the day before ].

This is [ what I wrote [ to show an example [ where tenses can be shown of an older past and even of a still older past ].
I think this kind of doubled past is logical as much as mathmatics is.
Are there cases where this kind of doubled past tense is used?

919片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/03/09(月) 20:52:04
Are there any native speakers?
920ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc :2009/03/10(火) 02:45:06
I'm not sure what you're trying to say with your sentence.

I understand that there's a letter you received, and that the other person sent the letter the day before the current day.

But what do you mean by the "you had called me yesterday"?

Do you mean that yesterday, the other person called you and told you he'd sent the letter on the day before that day?
921Dustin:2009/03/10(火) 03:26:02
I'm a native Speaker. アメリカじんですよ。にほんごべんきょうします。
922名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 03:44:27
>>912

...I have to say, this is pretty infuriating, we basically guarantee
that whoever attacks South Korea can expect total war.
Let South Korea pay for its own defense, its time we left.
923アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/03/10(火) 10:07:03
>>906
I read the page and found the whole argument silly. The English is awkward but it sounds like the
author is whining about how Koreans are "stealing" Japanese traditions. It comes across as cultural
supremacy which is truly an ignorant position to take.
924名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 10:41:33
uh, don't even get in there. The issue is way too complicated and now the rule is whoever makes a comment look silly.
925Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/03/10(火) 11:09:25
America stole the culture of every country in the world. I guess that is why a lot of people
hate the US.
926名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 11:15:49
>>923
I don't have anything against you and I don't think Japanese traditional cultures
are supreme, and it's quite alright what position you take about it,
but the fact remains Korean people tend to say all good things are invented in Korea.
If you aren't ignorant, it's easy to guess that's not true, but should you be brainwashed,
you might think it was true.
Again, I don't think all Japanese traditional cultures are interesting or anything, but
I'm sick of hearing this "every good thing comes from Korea" theory. That's just it.
927名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 12:57:39
Hallo, everybody How are you today
928Dustin:2009/03/10(火) 13:03:52
>>925

It's not that America STOLE every other countries culture. Everyone BROUGHT their cultures to the US. America was founded by immigrants.
929名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 13:07:47
If you want to feel like a hero fighting a good cause for your philosophical supremacy against Japanese nationalism
or something, then feel free to do it. It'd only expose your ignorance on the issue and perhaps, if lucky, could lead
to self-realization as to why a country is hated around the world, however.
930名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 13:15:04
>>928
Yeah, I think I bring more effect into america.
931アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/03/10(火) 13:43:14
Maybe it's because I'm not exposed to a similar rivalry that I think the whole controversy is silly.
I'm not Japanese but as an outsider such problems seem trivial. That website makes it seem like
this is a matter of dire importance when I dont believe it is (correct me if I'm wrong). I think it's a
symptom of a historical relationship which hasn't always been amicable. In this day however Japan
and South Korea seem to be stalwart allies and arguing that Koreans are in the wrong seems to be
a waste of time.
Sorry, I'm probably the least qualified to post about this and therefore you could say I'm ignorant.
I'd love to hear more opinions, 教えって下さい。

Oh and ようこそ Dustin!
932名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 13:54:53
>>931
Actually those hatreds are extremely rare in real life.
It's like believing anime is super popular in the US and Americans are all weeaboos just by browsing 4chan.
The majority of the Japanese and the Koreans regard the conflict on the internet as ridiculous.
I think less than one in 1000 Japanese would dislike Koreans for no apparent reason.
In fact, quite a few Korean singers, actors and whatnot are popular in Japan and vice versa.
933名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 14:47:03
>>925
I've never heard of America saying all good things were invented by America, though.

>>931
It's surely a complicated matter to explain. It's more of a matter of what is true and what's not.
Do you remember the gymnastic team competition of the Beijin Olympics?
America (and other countries as well) suspected some Chinese representatives lied about their age
because she looked too young and their official profiles (left on the internet) said they were too young
to participate in practice, but China said it was America that lied and, after that, proved they were old enough.
But some skepticism lingered on (since Chinese communist party could manupulate its records freely).
What do you think was right? I think America was right in speaking up, based on the profiles.
The point I want to make is that I think those things that someone says belong to themselves don't belong to themselves
just because their voice is louder than others.

And if I'm not mistaken, Japan and South Korea don't have a security treaty like Japan and America does, as a matter of fact.
I can't possibly get myself across very well in English (so please excuse me),
but South Korea asked America to think Japan is an enemy several years ago and
according to one of their foregine policies, named Korean national defense program 2020 or something,
Korea viewes Japan as enemy. I was like "huh? Oh... I knew it." when I heard about it.
They know Japan would never attack them but the government uses Japan to control its citizens.
And they know America would never attack them and so some citizens use America to have influence upon the government.
934名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 14:49:27
I seriously do not think the website is worth a discussion unless you are anthropologically interested in those trivium
on a factual level. As for the rivalry between the two nations, though only limited to the postwar peroid, Korea
has been benefiting from it more than Japan has, as it is always good to have some sort of goal to aim at. They have
been implementing that sort of patriotic campaign as a national virtue to develop their country and catch up with
Japan, especially in economy, but as a side effect, it has also left an excessive amount of nationalism in their
mentality. And as a result, some (very few I wish) Japanese have become somewhat reactive to the distorted
facts and accusations, which in turn looks like such a big deal on the internet. Personally, the only thing I wonder is
how many hundred apologies for the war it will take for the Japanese government to compensate their feelings.
935名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 14:59:32
>>932
One of the Korean newspapers said the poll showed Korean people dislikes Japan.
I forgot exactly what parcentage points, though. Probably over 70?
Do you still say Korean like Japan?

And I have never seen anyone in my life who says they like Korean actors
probably because their fanbase is an elderly women like over 60...

But yeah, you're right. Most Japanese people don't give a damn about Korea.
It's like believing Korean singers are super popular in Japan and Japanese are all Korean Wave fans just by reading Korean papers.
936名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 15:13:12
>>935
>One of the Korean newspapers said the poll showed Korean people dislikes Japan.

Are you sure the newspaper isn't a tabloid? I doubt it's a reputable newspaper.
Isn't it an online poll? I guess so.
Did you read it in Korean? If not, are you sure translation is done faithfully? I bet you read it in Japanese or in English.
Do you think what one particular newspaper is saying is reliable? I would take it cum grano salis.
Have you ever been to Korea? I did, and people over there were all friendly.

>I have never seen anyone in my life who says they like Korean actors

I love Boa and I believe there are tons of her fans in Japan. Well, she's a singer, not an actress, but whatever.
937名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 15:21:15
>>935
You better develop some information literacy skills.
938名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 15:36:02
>>937
キミ痛いのう
939名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 15:52:44
>>938
Look who's talking.
940名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 16:25:23
>>939
プゲラw
941名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 16:41:29
>>940
I know w is the Japanese equivalent of lol, but what does プゲラ mean?
I think I've seen this several times on 2ch (and only on 2ch) but always failed to understand what it means.
Is this an emoticon or something? And how can I type the tiny version of kana?
I just ctl+c and v'd his post.
942名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 19:37:01
>>941
I know you are from Korea. ホルホル
943金玉儿:2009/03/10(火) 20:48:24
Kagari's calf is fat, has tightened the muscle, and is hard.
On the other hand, Sekimori Hinowa's calf is thin and the muscle is also soft.
But I think that Sekimori Hinowa's calf wins if it tears up Sekimori Hinowa's calf and Kagari's calf each other.
I've masturbated a little while ago, making a snack of such a spectacle. That feeling has been good!!

944real yakibuta ◆rZ/DxCHAR. :2009/03/10(火) 20:55:31
>>941
It's echo-words, when a Japanese people is laughing.
They can be used independently and straight. For example "pu" or "gela gela".
And I don't know closely how to convert, but usually there is a system in PC that Japanese use.
There is a "Microsoft IME standard Japanese convertment system" or something in my PC.
945金玉儿:2009/03/10(火) 21:23:25
No matter how I write my masturbation experience on this thread, it is hushed up and never known to the world.
I'm irritated at、as if my penis bursts.
946金玉儿:2009/03/10(火) 21:59:23
I also like a female figure skater Kim Yu-na in South Korea.
I think frequently which is strong her thigh or Kimberley Mizener's thigh in U.S..
If Kimu Yu-na's soft & thin thigh was stronger than Kimberley Mizener's fat & firm thigh , I would be glad.
I would be glad as my penis grow up to 100 meters!!
947片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/03/10(火) 22:17:38
>>920
I mean that there's a letter I received,
and that the other person called me on the telephone yesterday,
and that the person sent the letter the day before yesterday.

I mean that yesterday, the other person called me and told me he'd sent the letter on the day before that day.

recieved is this morning, called is yesterday, sent is the day before yesterday,
recieve being past, called being had pp, sent being had had pp
Isn't this logical?
948名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/10(火) 22:29:44
Hey!
I could speak(write) English a little.
Can I join this chat ?
949名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/11(水) 00:05:44
Japanese baseball is miserable.
950名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/11(水) 07:33:14
>>948
Of course!
come on and join us!
951名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/11(水) 09:50:44
>>950
Thanks.
I have to speak English at university, but I can't. If I don't speak it, I'm not going to graduate from University 2 years later.
952金玉儿:2009/03/11(水) 22:23:47
May I josh about masturbation any longer?
Well, Mizuno Yuko is my onapet that I sometimes use for my masturbation.
I masturbate to this Mizuno Yuko while imagining the scene where Yukina Kinoshita, Yamamoto Mona, and Suzanne attack her all together.
I feel a sexual desire intensily, because I want Mizuno Yuko to defeat them by all possible means.
It is pleasure of growing my penis just up to about 100 meters.
953片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/03/11(水) 22:30:40
>>920
Answer meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, pleeeeeeeeeeease
Answer me for heaven's sake
Answer me
cus I'm serious.
Doooooooooooooooooooooooooon't be afraid.
I'm not crazy.
I mean I just seek truth.



recieved is this morning, called is yesterday, sent is the day before yesterday,
recieve being past, called being had pp, sent being had had pp
Isn't this logical?
954名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 01:24:26
Ha ha, I'm not sure what you're asking at all.
I'm a bit stupid in the morning...
Let me think.
I'm pretty sure you can't just add an increasing number of "hads"--you're confused by the occasional occurrence of "had had" in the English language, right?
I hate "had had".
When it's being used, it's referring to a previous case in which a person "had" something.
Right now, I have an apple. Yesterday, I had an orange. The day before that, I had a lemon.
...wait, that doesn't give an example at all!
Let me think.
In the morning, he had a fever. He had had those sorts of little fevers all his life, so it was no big deal.
Something like that, maybe?
When you're talking about something in the past tense to begin with--for example, how most English fiction is written.
For as for your letter:
I received your letter today. You called me to tell me about your letter yesterday. You sent your letter out the day before.
I received the letter that you told me about.

...ahhhhh, English is confusing!
I know I'm probably doing something wrong here, but I can't find it!
I'm confused! I'm terribly confused!
955片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/03/12(木) 01:35:56
For as for my letter:
I received your letter today. You called me to tell me about your letter yesterday. You sent your letter out the day before.
I received the letter [ which you had told me [ that you had had sent the day before ] ].

...ahhhhh, you are amusing!
I know you're probably saying it in a simple way.
But you can find it!
You are making the tense simple.
You're amusing! You're terribly worth hugging amusing!
956Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/03/12(木) 01:41:25
To the Japanese speakers here:
What kind of job do you have? What level of schooling?
I understand there are NEET's here, that is OK. Tell the last job or whatever
you had then.

I'm interested.
957片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/03/12(木) 01:56:10
I received the letter [ which you had told me [ that you had had sent the day before ] ].

Tennessean, It this sentense OK?

I was wondering with triple past tense to my mathemathical mind,
when my native speakers came up on my mind
958名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 02:23:55
I think this is how it's written:
I received the letter which you had told me that you had sent the day before.

I'm not sure, though.
959片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A :2009/03/12(木) 02:33:44
>>985
After all, I agree with you.
past is said with past, double past is said with had pp,
triple, quatro, 5tro are said with had pp as well.

Am I all right?
960Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/03/12(木) 04:56:44
>>957

Any English speaker would know what you are trying to say, but I'm not sure if that
is perfectly grammatically correct. The book of English grammar is like, 2000 pages long in
TINY print.
If I was trying to say the same thing, I would just say,
"I received the letter which you were telling me you had sent the day before."

Still not sure what those brackets are supposed to mean.
961名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 05:00:24
You looks wan.
962名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 12:16:37
>>956
Am a researcher at a governmental institute. Have a Ph.D. Post some random crap once in a while, but usually I'm just a lurker.
Don't know why I'm browsing 2ch, but I guess geeks tend to flock to the internet. I'm no exception.

I speak and write extremely formal English everyday in real life, which is frustrating.
I don't give a shit about who vs. whom and which vs. that, but curmudgeons (aka editors) always correct my manuscripts.
Procrastination is my friend and deadlines are my archenemy.
963名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 12:41:13
I entered to the 2ch English chat just to talk about Japan life and the only thing i found is racism and Anti-American / Anti-Korean messages.

How sad...
964Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/03/12(木) 13:29:57
>>962

What do you research?!
965名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 13:42:11
「うそはうそであると見抜ける人でないと(掲示板を使うのは)難しい」

This is a famous comment Hiroyuki made when interviewed on TV about his own site, 2ch.
How would you translate this sentence into English?
966アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/03/12(木) 13:51:15
>>963
Don't be put off by that stupid stuff; we usually have great discussions.
>>962 reminded me of this, I've been really impressed with all the recent posts' English.
Well done 日本人! Beginners should not be afraid to write however so please join us.

So I have more projects coming up in Japanese class. One is to make a poster about a Japanese city.
Tokyo, Osaka, Nara, Yokohama, Kyoto, Nagasaki, Sapporo, Kobe, and Nagoya have already been claimed
by my classmates. Any suggestions? I was thinking of Hiroshima unless you can come up with something better.
The other project is an oral presentation so I'll probably post some grammatical questions closer to the due date.

Agrh! I just remembered I have a kanji quiz Friday... Oh man and the test for college credit Japanese is coming up as well...
967名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 13:57:39
>>966

Are you a Japanese student? because im studying for be a teacher. im not from USA, English isnt even my native language but i always loved foreign languages, specially Japanese. Im from Chile in South America.
968アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/03/12(木) 14:16:49
>>965
Oh man I'm gonna botch this up: without a person who can see through a lie with a lie using a BBS is difficult.
How close was I?
>>967
Hi there! I'm studying Japanese in high school and I'm hopin to continue learning it through college, maybe as a minor.
Why don't you tell us about Chile? We really only get posters from English speaking countries.
969名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 14:20:30
>>964
My research interests include theoretical computer science and related applied mathematics such as probability theory.
Part of my doctoral dissertation was published in IEEE transactions of Information Theory (a long time ago though),
so maybe you can say my main research area is information theory.
But I also work on various fields like other scientists who have a math background.

If my memory serves me, some Japanese and Americans in this thread also said they studied computer science.
I guess *chans attract nerds and basement dwellers (or NEETs if you will).

Ugh! I don't want to be caught browsing on 2ch on my working PC, but typing on the phone is a pain in the ass.
I'll be back when I get home. See you then.
970名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 14:26:49
>>968
I'd translate it as "a msg board is tricky if you can't see through a lie."
971Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2009/03/12(木) 14:34:20
http://www.youtube.com/user/Songunblog

The videos this N. Korean propagandist posts are fucking hilarious. I bet he is
the only guy in that whole country with internet access to youtube. Watching his videos
makes me feel like I am living during the Cold War or something.
972名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 14:44:39
>>971
Internet in North Korea? Doesn't compute.
973名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 14:58:31
>>968
Chile is an awesome country, Most people thinks that South America is some type of endless jungle but this is absolutelty the same as all the world. Chile is beautiful, we got glacials, forest, cities and deserts, all in one country.
974チリ人:2009/03/12(木) 15:01:07
By the way, I cant deny that i entry to the Japanese culture thanks to the Otaku world when i was more young.
Here in Chile Anime is really huge and there are conventions and events.
On December JAM PROJECT was here on a concert, and before that J-Rock artist like Miyavi, Toshi (fron X-Japan) and other groups also comes to my country.
975名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 15:06:20
>>971
Speaking of North Korea, I wonder if the country really launch a ballistic missle.
Did that make news in America? In Japan, most TV news hasn't broadcast it, though we can read
the news in the paper. N.K insists that it's just a satelite and if America or Japan shoots it down
then they will wage war against us. Think they are just trying to threat us, though.
976名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 15:10:44
>>974
Great. I've picked up a ton of colloquial English from English dubs of Japanese anime.
I'm jealous of you; you can learn natural Japanese from raws. I have to resort to translations.
977名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 15:17:26
>>975
I read at least three news articles about the launch in English newspapers including New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/12/world/asia/12missile.html?ref=asia

I think it was on top stories list of the US version of GoogleNews a couple days ago.

As for the possibility, I think it's highly unlikely. And if they do, they will be in trouble.
978名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 15:19:10
>>971
Do you mean to say English used in dubbed anime isn't natural?

By the way, I don't think raw anime is always natural.
Some Japanese used in anime are just over-exaggerated, don't you think?
979名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 15:24:02
>>977
>New York Times
...was supposed to be going bankrupt...
980名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 15:27:38
>>966
>a kanji quiz
What kind? I mean, how to read or how to write?
981チリ人:2009/03/12(木) 15:28:45
>>976
colloquial English? so English isnt your native language?
And yeah, i just passed my first year in Japanese language and at least i can now read Hiragana and Katakana.
Kanji is really hard but im trying my best, i can read at least 60/70 for now.

By the way, here in Latin America a lot of Anime came here on original status, without USA censors or editions like Pokemon.
Also i find Latin American dubs much better than English dubs.

>>978
There are some Anime that is over-exaggerated, yeah, i cant understand a word in Lucky Star.
982名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 15:34:55
>>978
Are you talking to me (>>976)? If so, I find some translations awkward, especially when the line is heavily ADRed and/or hard to translate.
English dubs are translation, after all. It can't be helped.

>I don't think raw anime is always natural.
Better than hollywood movies and american sitcoms.
Certainly anime and manga are not very good materials if you're stupid enough to not able to understand the difference between cartoonish lingo and normal speech.
But more than 90% of spoken language in your average anime is the same as our daily Japanese.
Besides, you're not a dope who relies solely on anime to learn a language, are you?

>>979
I hope New York Times will survive in this difficult situation and thrive. It taught me a lot of English.
983名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 15:44:30
I saw four or five cats gather and relaxing at a place full of sunsine. It was such a heartwarming sight (⌒〜⌒)
984名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 15:50:57
>>981
I'm Japanese and my English sucks. My kanji writing skills suck harder though.

>Lucky Star
You're watching an awesome show. KONATAHHHHHHHHHH!!!1!! YOUR SO ADORABLE!!

Ah, but I digress. I watched it both in English and Japanese.
Apparently the English dub is not as good as its original, but it was decent if you ask me.
The series contains a plethora of inner jokes so it might be a little bit harder for Japanese learners.
As for exaggeration, I think it's good to hear exaggerated voice acting if you're learning a non-tonal or semi-tonal language such as Japanese.
Idiosyncratic vocabulary and grammar are noticeable and they take care of themselves if you get a lot of input.
Just my two cents. You should take it with a lot of salt.
985名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 16:06:17
>>965
A message board is too troublesome to flirt with
unless you are one to perceive a lie for what it is.
986チリ人:2009/03/12(木) 16:11:56
>>984
I was thinking that you were from USA, its good to talk with a Japanese.

Yeah i saw Lucky Star and it was really good, im somewhat walked away from Anime right now, but i still saw some things.
The last thing i saw was Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu (乃木坂春香の秘密) and it was cute, also i watched Detroit Metal City and i absolutely love it.

Still... i was wondering if there are some type of gaijin-friendly series in Japan for starting learning Japanese.
It doesnt really need to be Anime but if there are some recommendations, i will truly appreciate it.
987名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 16:15:15
>>956
I'm a student of uni(^O^) and of course a one of the residents here.
This threat is our house in which we can post as we like without reserve( ̄∀ ̄)
Welcome, チリ人=
988チリ人:2009/03/12(木) 16:19:28
>>987
Thanks for your welcome!
i was a little afraid to use a nick because i heard that its a little "noob/DQM" to do that on 2ch.
But i guess i will do it, at least for a while.
989名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 16:31:34
>>986
Hmm, I don't often watch anime in Japanese. If anything, most of series I have watched are in English.
I think what you like is the best learning materials when it comes to language.
As long as you get a lot of input, your Japanese gets better and better each day.
I think eventually you'll know which is cartoonish and which is normal.

Also, the prescriptive grammar is all well and good, but, in my humble opinion, your language should represent yourself.
My English is heavily influenced by my nerdy hobby, but that's fine.
I'm not learning English to fake myself. I want to be myself.

That said, if you're planing on taking a standardized test such as JLPT,
you may want to use anime targeted to adults because language is more mature and closer to the vernacular.
I think common sense will tell which is wrong to use as a learning source of standard Japanese.
990チリ人:2009/03/12(木) 16:36:19
>>989
So you are saying that i need to watch seinen Anime for get a more natural learning?
Is funny to hear a Japanese saying that they prefer to watch Anime in English, mostly people thinks the opposite
but i understand your "nerd hobby", to be honest isnt really nerdy, you learn a lot with that anyway.
991名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 16:47:02
>>965
It would be hard to continue to enjoy making use of bulltin bourds if you take all coments at a face value.
992名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 16:49:25
>>990
I think anything will do the job. It's just if you choose shows for kids, you'll need more time to get proper grammar down.
In any case, you learn grammar and vocabulary that appear again and again in various shows and forget infrequent phrases.
And those frequent ones you come across in many series are most likely proper Japanese for obvious reasons.

I mean, don't think you can say X just because a particular character said X in a show.
I thought this was common sense, but some people claim students shouldn't use anime and manga because they learn strange language, which I think is bullshxt.
993チリ人:2009/03/12(木) 16:56:12
>>992
I understand, well of course i learned a lot of Japanese words before i starting studying.
Like Watashi (わたし) or Anata (あなた) and all those really basic things.
Another word that i learned with Anime and Japanese cinema was "Daiyoubu" (大丈夫).
I guess this was because i was a fan of Kikuko Inoue when i was more young (笑).
So yeah, Anime and Japanese shows helps a lot in Japanese learning, my humble opinion.

Thanks for your help, i gonna go to sleep now (its 5 AM in Chile now), greetings.
994名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 16:57:45
>>993
Sweet dreams.
995名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 17:12:53
new thread

Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 129
http://academy6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1236845508/
996金玉儿:2009/03/12(木) 20:47:05
Japanese starves for speaking with the foreigner, therefore when they saw writing "アメリカ人" or "チリ人", they make a response greedly .
Moreover, though Japanease make a response to the remark of the same Japanese as carping at a fault, they never carps at a fault to the foreigner's remark.
Speaking with the foreigner for the Japanese is honor act as if they speek with the TV entertainer of their yearning.
If you see Japanese groins at that time, you will find to be wet in the combustor.
997名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/12(木) 22:20:44
998アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2009/03/13(金) 05:18:46
998!
We wouldn't want these last posts to go to waste now would we?
999名無しさん@英語勉強中:2009/03/13(金) 05:19:50
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