Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 126

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( ´･ω･) Let's have some Knyam tea and chat!
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Previous thread:
Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 125
http://academy6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1230075296/

Hey!!! you NEETs, nerds, YouＴube-link spammers, pedophiles, neo-Nazis,
Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers, Part-Time-Preachers,
Diplomats' spoiled sons, losers who can't remember Kanji characters,
Big-boobs fans, Weeaboos from all around the world, learners of Japanese
who are too lazy to update their Japanese blogs very often, cunning
linguists, and Admins of deserted imageboards. And let's celebrate the comeback of the Internet-addicted
housewife!

Here is the place to have a blast!!!!

Thank you very much!

****** Quick guide to Americans here *******

* keira=robotintokyo (California)
A woman who once announced that she'd start vlogging, but she's so lazy that she hasn't
even tried it. Loves to travel with her family. Last time she visited Japan, she cosplayed
and strutted on the Takeshita street in Harajuku. She loves to sing Harajuku Girls by
Gwen Stefani when she goes to Karaoke with her friends.
"robotintokyo" is a part of her blog's URL.

* ベイエリア人 (California)
A man who claims he leads a reclusive lifestyle. Nice man who answeres
our questions in another thread. His dream is to bungee jump from the
Golden Gate bridge. He's now on a self-searching trip.

* tennessian (Tennessee)
Born in a stable but his dad's success in his illegal business led him to live in a mansion.
A man who loves Japanese culture and wants to go out with Japanese exchange students
in his university. Although he doesn't give a shit studying Japanese, he wants to have
a good time as a gaijin in Japan. So checking ALT's (assistant language teacher) blogs
to know what their lives are like is his daily routine. He loves the weather and people
in Florida so much that he wants to move there and spend the rest of his life playing poker
all day with elderly people. The winner of the 28th Elvis impersonator contest.
His favorite CD is Trance remix of Elvis's tunes. Devoted Dixie Chicks fan.

□ English板は、英語に関する情報交換と学問的な議論の場所です。
□ 投稿する前によく読みましょう-「２ちゃんねる初心者のためのページ」も参考にしてください。
　▽新規スレッドを立てる前に、重複スレッドがないか、「スレッド一覧」でご確認しましょう。
　　・検索方法は、ブラウザの「Ctrl ＋ F」(Windows)・「コマンドﾞ + F」(Mac)。

□ お約束 (ローカルルール)
　▽書き込む前に「２ちゃんねるガイド」を読み、２ちゃんねるのルールを確認しましょう。
　▽「単発的な質問」や「既存のスレッドと似た内容」で新規スレッドを立てるのはやめよう。
　　・検索や過去ログを活用してね。

Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 126
http://academy6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1230724374/

* アメリカ人 (Chicago)
Man with panty fetish. His goal is to get full schalorship from one of the IV League
universities or USC, scientology or scatology major.
Learning Japanese but not so serious about it.
When he gets nervous before an exam, he sniffs his host sister's panty to relax.
It's said that lots of bras and panties were gone when he left his host
family's house. He knows how to choose the best and ideal host family to stay with.
His advice to students who wants to homestay in Japan is that the first thing they should
do on arriving host family's home is to make sure where the washing machine is.
He is an active spammer on Japanprobe and Japundit. He has a crooning voice and he takes
full advantage of it when he does cyber on Skype. Cheerful and outgoing.

* crystal (California)
ESL teacher wannabe. Kind enough to answer our English questions. Loves
Japanese pop culture. A tad more serious than アメリカ人　but not so serious
about studying Japanese. She loves Japan and things Japanese but draws a fine line
between weeaboos and herself. Thinks it's a good idea to live in Japan but not
longer than one year. She believes that being away from her boyfriend for such a
long time deteriorates their relationship. Loves to play catch with her mom.
She loves spicy hot Orochon ramen noodles. She likes it in spicy level 9.
(extremely hot)

* jook (california)
Tech-savvy. Nobody knows more about the US cell phone industry than him.
He's so tech-savvy that he can text message or give a call even when his cell phone
is turned off. Nice enough to answer our English questions here and in another thread.
Loves to sleep with his girlfriend behind his parents' eyes.
Desperate to shave his girlfriend's pubic hair.
He drinks Jooky instead of Coke.　将 is one of his favorite kanji and he uses stylized 将
as wallpaper. He loves scuba diving so much that he's planning to live under water for the rest
of his life. He loves Oreskaband just because all the members are girls. Party animal.
He calls himself 男伊達.(dandy guy) Very friendy.
(Some posters from America was banned while you were away and if your find your access blocked now,
read posts here at http://4chan.b33r.net/sparky4/+4/4/ You can find a solutiuon there.
They're using a Thailand proxy now.)

*【電気火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 (Louisiana)
A boy also known as Sparky who lives only in cyber space. Sometimes you have a feel
that it's easier to communicate with cats and dogs than him. Some says he's a gifted troll
but he insists he's gifted in science and math. Administrator of deserted image boards.
http://4chan.b33r.net/sparky4/+4/
He's in serious love sickness. At Bar Gikoppoi, he met his cyber girlfriend but she turned
out to be a middle aged pervert under the cloak of a cute Japanese girl.
It's said that his Windows Me PC calculates 4 times faster than IBM's Deep Blue.

* 米人（Boston)
Red Sox fan. Lived for a year in a rehabilitation facility to cure her
Internet addiction. Now she has developed game addiction and every time
she spots her kids playing Guirtar Hero, she snatches the console from them
and plays it on her own. She takes care of lots of plants in the living room,
such as miniture coffee tree, peppercorn and marijuana. She loves chatting here more than
taking care of her family. She's nice enough to give some good advice to learners of
Japanese. Besides, she is greatly admired as virtual mom by posters here.
Her quality time is when she reads Boston Globe over coffee on a beautiful Sunday morning,
with her husband and kids locked in the closet.

* Ether (Florida)
Has travelled to Japan. Taller than 6 feet and blond. Drives a jaloppy.
There's a framed photo of two sumo wrestlers he saw during his vist to Japan on the wall
of his room. His penis was bitten off by a gigantic aligator while he was taking a nap
naked in the backyard. His mom is on the FBI's missing people's list.
On the day he saw her last, he saw a huge alligator with its stomach
swollen disappearing into a swamp.

* Captain Spicard (Florida)
Born in upstate NY. Guardian of Sparky. He came all the way from 4chan to take him back to his
original playground. The author of "Training and Taming Sparky for Dummies." Doesn't give
a shit studying Japanese but doesn't mind helping Japanese English learners.
He's a pro websurfer with 13 web browsers installed. There's a wig in the living room
of his house in NY which he used to wear for a costume party on Halloween. Atheist.
He loves snow more than anything and his dream as a child was to become a snowman.
Child at heart.

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* linger (Massachusetts)
Born and raised in Massachusetts.
Nice enough to answer questions about English.
He claims he has a 3.76 college GPA.
He doesn't give a damn about learning Japanese. Spanish is the only language he's
interested in learning. His goal in life is becoming an illegal immigrant in Mexico or Spain.

* firestar(Pennsylvania）
Devoted fan of Mac laptop PC with multi-touch trackpad.
His major is computer information sciences.
He has installed 2ch browser, meaning ready to get addicted to 2ch.
He loves netsurfing with a subway sandwitch in his mouth. He also loves exploring abondoned
buildings. His hero is Rocky Balboa.

* Randugulf
Quite a long time resident here but not many about him are known to everybody.
Rumor has it that he's just pervert.

元2ちゃん記者、代行の馬鹿はこれが訳せません
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"… To accomplish that, they are turning Bangalore into a center of innovation in
IT technology and business process. "

意味はよく分からんけどまずは煽ってみたって感じのレス
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309 名前： ◆DAIKOUEnIQ [sage] 投稿日：2008/12/31(水) 02:01:49 ID:Qq7A30XI0
ITの技術となんじゃらて意味での文章じゃんかアホ？

煽られてうっかりエキサイト翻訳並の翻訳を披露してしまう大失敗
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315 名前： ◆DAIKOUEnIQ [sage] 投稿日：2008/12/31(水) 02:06:04 ID:Qq7A30XI0
ヲマエが指摘してる部分は

技術革新の中心にITの技術とビジネスプロセスを達成するにはバンガロールを向けている

この文章なんだよな。
文章の途中にIT technologyってあったから大はしゃぎで正当化してるの？
ねぇ？馬鹿なの？
それも旅行か視察の感想文に出てくるほんの一部の検索結果で大見得切ってるの？
アホなの？

突っ込まれると「何必死になってるの」で逃げ（笑） しかもこの時点で「子供でも分かる英文」
とやらを自分自身が読めてないことの自覚が全くない始末。
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339 名前： ◆DAIKOUEnIQ [sage] 投稿日：2008/12/31(水) 02:18:21 ID:Qq7A30XI0
>>337
子供でも分かるような英文で何必死になってるの？
恥ずかしいから？ﾌﾟﾌﾟﾌﾟ

http://pc11.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/net/1230437680/

<Other nationalities>

* イギリス人(UK)
Foreigners come and go but he is the longest term resident here.
Diplomat's spoiled son. He has lived in several countries as a child and now he has no clues
where he's from. He's nice and sincere enough to answer even stupid English questions.
He's been lurking since he got a job in web design but shows up more often on holidays.
He knows quite a lot about Japanese TV shows and movies.
He is a great cook. He loves to bake a chocolate cake. He loves to collect hats and buys
some on online auction but it's said that he doesn't pay for them one out of three times.
Every wall in his room is covered with posters of 広末涼子. (Ryoko Hirosue)
Secret admirer of NORIAKI the REAL and Cool Tak. He was proposed by the ugliest woman on earth
on Christmas holidays and now he feels like he's in heaven.

* スウェーデン人(Sweden)
He used to frequent this thread but now he doesn't seem to be able to access to 2ch.
2ch has been denying accesses from Sweden or of people with se. IP address.
His English proficiency is almost perfect and was nice enough to answer questions of us
English learners. He's thinking about studying in university in Japan.

* Nrvnqsr (Sweden)
Not many are known about him except his pubic hair is blond.
Good English speaker.
----
Below are posters who are missing for quite a long time.
スコットランド人(Scotland)、ノルウェー人(Norway)、k-tan(Sweden)、S-chan (USA)

How are you spending the final night of 2008?

I'm channel surfing. Watching Martial Arts, NHK, Comedy show by Down town...

>>12
I'm watching TV and doing 2channeling.

ok-->another one

*碇真治 AKA AKIRA(Singaporean)
A teenager living in the pitiful island of Singapore, studying in National University of Singapore
High School of Math and Science. Started learning Japanese this year's Jan. Got to know this site
after watching that densha drama. Likes animes and mangas(but restricted only to the best ones like
Silent Service, AKIRA and NGE. Kills people who calls me otaku(spirtually) and hope teach english in
exchange to learn japanese.

>>14
How do you read your name, I mean, the kanji character.

>>14
How's the weather in Singapore?

OK, This one is the right thread and the other is the fake one.

>>3
>>5
>>6
>>7
>>9
>>11
君はそれが書きたかったんだろうけど
そんな紹介文があると来づらい人もいるかもしれない。
そもそも本人に了解を得ていないだろう？
そんなので新規スレッドを立てるのは荒らしと同類である。
責任を持って削除依頼を出しましょう。

>>15 >>16 ikari shinji aka akira
hot, humid and fucking annoying

>>17
This is confusing. At least the template's right on this one, so it must
be correct...

>>18
What are you talking about?

>>18
This is a "chat in English" thread.
Speak in English.

>>19
So, you are familiar with Japanese anime and manga?

>>20
It seems like this one is the right one.

Are you going to visit Shinto Shrine tommrow?

I'm bored. K-1 is boring. So is NHK and other TV shows.

>>24
Kinda confusing.

>>25
I'll be stay at home as usual.
There's nothing special about New Years day.

>>26
Then stop watching TV and just browse 2ch.

Tell me your New Year's resolutions.

What's going on here?

>>26
I'm bored, too. So I think I'll take a bath now.

>>29
We Japanese don't have such thing as New Year's resolution.
Then again, maybe we have it. We write 書き初め and sometimes you
wirte your new years resolution for it.

>>26
More and more people are getting bored with K-1.

Boxing is getting popular because Naitou has gotten popular after
he beaten up Kameda family's second son.

Do you think there is something wrong with me finding Aiko cute?

>>34
Aiko is popular among lolicon.
She's in her thirties but actually, she looks like a junior high school
student. I heard that she's popular among 2channelers.

test

I'm going to stay up all night. There're lots of comedy shows past midnight and I don't want to miss them.

>>35
lol I never considered myself a lolicon. That's good to know.
I just find myself sometimes attracted to a slightly 'busu' girl, I'm not very fond of
perfect girls. Then again, it's just me.

>>14
What time is it now in Singapore? You celebrate New Year in January because
lots of ethnic Chinese are in your country, right?

>>38
Some people don't like a perfect girl.
I'm not a kind of guy who loves busu, though.

>>29
My New Year's resolution is stop doing 2chan. lol

the time in sinagpore is almost the same as in japan(either 1hour earlier or later

>>41
You know you can't. All you have to do is not to browse 2ch too much.
Set your own rule and don't stay in 2ch longer than that.

Wait a sec, I found another thread, what's going on?

And I just saw some kind of monster singing on TV...

>>40 yeah, we celebrate deepavali,hari raya and christmas as well

>>20
>The IP lookup doesn't search a database for the host, it tracks the IP
>address in real-time for the hostname. Of course, if the IP address has changed,
>then it will be incorrect. Many people have a static IP address which doesn't
>change, so this makes it easier to ban individual people (who don't know
>how to get around this), or to remove many posts by the same person.

Thanks. The other thread seems to be a fake one, so I thank you via through thread.
Honestly speaking, I can't say that I understood all of host and IP address stories.
I have some assumption about that though.
Anyway, thanks. I hope that you answer my questions about pc in the future.

oops,
via through thread
-> through this thread

>>47
Are you interested in monitoring others' IP addresses, too?

>>49
No.lol
Well, I've not been an administrator or something, so I don't ever peek
someone's IP address.
But if there is any merit to do so, I'd like to try it...

>>50
I think it'd be great to, I bet it must feel like you have the power to peek something
you are not supposed to see. I have to admit I'm perverted in some way.

・・which one is real ?
I think that dividing chat in English thread into two parts is not an good idea.

I think it's an good idea because people here are boring like hell.
If there are two threads going at the same time, chances are one of the two is something fun going on.

>>53
But checking both threads at the same time is troublesome, and I think
this state of this thread is lack of nobility or beauty.

The world as we know it is coming to an end.
Just let it be, people.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!

>>54
No 2ch threads have nobility and beauty.

明けまして、おめでとうございます。 (Akemashite omedetou gozaimasu.)

Happay New Year.

What's happy about this year?
I really don't see it.
The number of homeless people are rapidly increasing, spending their time at some station or under some bridge or soimewhere very cold.
This situation should be taken care of. But we can't save them because we are not safe either. We can't afford to do anything.
We as a country is on the point of collapsing.
This is really bad.

Some stalkers like to show that biography. I start getting it bit by bit.
Surely I know native english speaker's posts are those of the best learning tools.
However, they are just usual human and they are willing to post here, not being forced by 2cher.

I'm depressed watching TV which shows happy people celebrating New Year.
I was just chatting here as usual when everybody is celebrating New Year.

>>60
What's your point?
Nobody forces anybody to post in 2ch.

This is the year when we'll see the worst in us, like selfishness and egotism.

It's far better to say "Happy New Year" face to face than say it
to anonymouse people.

>>57
Almost all thread are as bad as trash. However, this thread used to be good
as a relative.

This division is something like the collapse of Soviet Union. Some people are
revolting, maybe.

Ummm, I'm uneasy with the future of this thread.

The state of Japanese TV is just not what it used to be.
Boring and stupid, just like the people watching it. That's the way to go for TV producers.
The more boring and stupid a show is, the more people watch it.

>>65
I think "Chat in English" threads in the past couple of months is
good because you can chat some foreigners every time you come here.
There was a time no foreigners came.

>>66
Definitely true.
Watching correct tv programs is no more than wasting time, or maybe what's worse,
it is even harmfull from especially children to watch them.

>>66
I think the reason why I think TV shows are boring is just I'm getting
old.

>>67
We come and go, depending on whether we're being blocked by the administration.
Right now, we have a working proxy server, but I'll bet that as soon as the holiday
is over, that one will be blocked as well.

Anyways, Happy New Year!!

>>67
Thank you to seduce and bring some foreigners to this place !
I really appreaciate...

>>62
To my observation, The one tends to copy and past the biography in part of early thread.
Probably he or she doesn't sense how creepy they are.
I hate obsessional stalker like them. You could figure out as a human.

>>69
I don't think so.
People are getting dumber and dumber. That's it.
TV just reflects that miserable state of people. I lament that.

>>70
The reason why foreigners here come and go isn't because of 2ch's
blocking. They just get bored. Some are because of blocking, though.

And Happy New Year!, although you have about 13 hours 30 minutes left until
New Year.

>>70
Happy new year.
I hope that you can deal with successfully shit administrator's attack!

>>72
Don't take it too seriously. it's just a joke.
I think no one avoid coming here because of it.
They keep coming and some even find it amusing.

There two trreads with an identical title here.
Why don't you guys just put one aside and use the other one first?

>>77
This is the 126th Chat in English thread.
The other is fake.

>>74
The loss of these decent native speakers like people here not only makes us sad but
also arises a serious problem.
Here in the past, it seemed that there were no native speakers.
This thread may go back to the state if following your theory.
What's a dark era..

Well, however, as for me, this thread isn't such a boring place as you said.

New year's topic for a discussion.

◆What should we do to deal with this thread's crisis ?

Either threads should be thrown away into a garbage box ($・・)/

>>80
I suggest wait and see what happens.
The Chat in English threads fill up pretty fast. Maybe two could be
supported for now, although eventually it might be better to go back
to one thread.

>>81
X Either threads should be thrown away into a garbage box.
O Both threads should be thrown into the garbage.

I don't agree though!

>>79
People come and go so that can't be helped.
Foreigners who stay here for a long period of time tend to have
interest in Japan. But that isn't enough for them to say longer.
If they are interested in studying Japanese, I think they would stay
much longer.

>>80
What crisis? If you are talking about foreginers leaving here,
I don't think there's no effective way to keep them.
Anybody can't force them to stay forever.

>>83
You sound like you are really having fun chatting in 2ch.
You'll be the longest resident here if 2ch don't block your ISP.

Young people tend to get bored easily but you're matured enough not
to get bored easily.

>>83
You are enjoying shattling between two threads.

>>85
It would be nice if there was a whitelisting system in addition to
a blacklist. So that an IP range can be blocked, but individual IP
addresses could be excluded.

>>87
It seems like there should be a way to do that, doesn't there?
I wrote to the 2ch admins asking if they could lift the block.
At least, I hope that was what I wrote, since I wrote it in Japanese.
And I got a reply from Mr. Hiroyuki Nishimura.

>>83
Oh, really ?
As someone asked the same question while ago, I was confused with the usage.
I wanted to say 'one of the two thread should be abandand' by that.

ok, I learned something important that the Japanese should be careful when they use the word 'either'.

>>88
Do you mind me asking what he had to say about the situation?

>>80
No, what I'm afraid of mostly is the condition of this thread's being divided into two threads
It may become hard to get back the stable emvironment like current economic crisis.

above post is to
>>84

>>87
Never heard of "whitelisting." I thought it's a coined word but looked it
up in my dictionary just in case. There it is! Somehow blacklist is
a lot more familiar with us Japanese.

How can 2ch tell whose posters' IPs should be excluded.
They sure record every post's IP but they usually don't check them
individually, except a post is against laws or involves in a crime.

For example, if someone post he/she will kill someone at a particular
place at a particular time, then 2ch report that to the police.
Actually some people were arrested so far because of that.

>>89
Sorry, I misunderstood your meaning.
I myself would say:
One of these threads should be thrown in the garbage.
I just checked the dictionary, and I see where I went wrong.
Either should be used with a singular noun.
I think you could say this and have the intended meaning:
Either thread could be thrown in the garbage.
The plural threw me. It's strange how a small difference can
make a sentence hard to understand.

>>90
Not at all. It's pretty boring though. It was a automatic response,
and what it said was this:

現在、[email protected]のアドレスは使われておりません。
お手数ですが、[email protected]に再送を御願いいたします。
Noone read the mail which you sent to [email protected].
Would you please forward to [email protected]?Thank you.

Hopefully, [email protected] isn't where they send e-mails to die.
I was so excited when I saw someone had responded...what a letdown.

What's reply Mr. Hiroyuki Nishimura responded?

>>88
You wrote to him in Japanese at that! Good job!
I wonder what was his reply like.
Maybe he can understand easy English because he has studied in America
for a year or two, maybe after he graduated from Japanese uni or
he studied in American university as an exchange student.

2 chan in its early stage was made when he was in America if I'm not
wrong.

>>94
Well, the word 'either' seems to be more likely to cause misunderstanding
than the other words.
It's better for the Japanese to refrain from using the word until becoming the master of English
to avoid troubles.

>>95
LOL
You didn't really get a reply from him.
Anyway, this blocking a whole ISP thing is just a regular bullshit procedure they follow
when a spammer appears anywhere on 2ch. But the problem is they are less likely to
lift the ban soon if it's a foreign ISP because no proper channel to ask for a lift
has been established between 2ch and foreign ISPs.

>>95
I see.
But I wonder he has enough time to read each and every email
he gets every day. Anyway, I give you a pat on the back.

>>96 >>97
I haven't heard anything more, perhaps because of the New Years holiday.
I'm not sure I'll be hearing from him personally; he probably has
people working for him who respond to e-mails.
I should have written in English. Lord knows if they can read what I
wrote originally. It probably sounds weird, because I was trying to be
polite, and because I'm not very good at Japanese. Here it is:
２chの運営者様へ
私は日本語が下手ですからごめんなさい。「アメリカ人です。」
今2chに「spammer」の人がいるので「comcast」のispを使うアメリカ人に２chに書き込ませません。
でも法律に従うアメリカ人はたくさんがいます。
それでそんな人にとって２chに書き込ませていただけませんか？
これを読んでありがとうございました。
Now, doesn't that make you feel better about your English skills?
Compared to my Japanese skills, that is.

>>102
There are some unnatural usages but overall your Japanese is good enough to make
yourself understood. I felt impressed.

Your Japanese is more than intelligible, 米人. I'm really impressed, actually.

>>103 >>104
You are very kind. Probably too kind!
It took me over an hour to write 5 simple sentences. Pathetic.

Japanese writings written by a foreigners are cute.

If 米人 will attach her some image files on that mail, Hiroyuki could give preferential treatment to 米人.
I think he isn't a cherry definitely though.

It is my dream to someday graduate from this thread and move to a
Japanese language thread.
I actually went to one of the "over 40" threads once, because I thought
people there would be kinder to me if I made mistakes in my posts.
But I ended up not posting anything. It took me a really long time to
figure out what people there were writing about, and it turned out to be
aches & pains, and how their bodies were falling apart.
So I returned to Chat in English.

>>102
I have to admit your Japanese is much better than I imagined.
Actually, it's very good. It's good enough to make yourself understood.

>perhaps because of the New Years holiday.

Unfortunately, I don't think that's the case. 2ch is not run by a company
he runs. So you can't expect decent service that you can expect from
a company with good customer service. 2ch is just his hobby.
In a nutshell, 2ch is no different from the forum Sparky runs.
Of course the scale of 2ch is a lot bigger than Sparky's board, though.
So he gathered many volunteers through 2ch's threads who help him
run 2ch but in essence, 2ch is nothing but his hobby.

The ads you see when you click a link that leads you to outside of 2ch is
one of the sources of his revenue.

Anyway, nishimura hiroyu●ki should pay fine immediately.

>>108
>aches & pains
Which boad did you go to? Health and Beauty? lol

>>108
The way of conversation carried out there is too casual of broken.
So, I think it's much harder than actually talking with Japanese people.

casual or broken...

2ch isn't the best place to learn Japanese if you ask me because 2channelers use
2ch jargon and they don't use proper kanji.

and people are too emotional

It's said that 2ch's administrator, Hiroyuki earns 160 million yen
a year. That is 1.6 million USD.

I don't know that amount of money is raked in just by 2ch's ad revenue because
he runs other companies or a board member of a company.

What the heck was happened?

http://data.exet.nu/bildarkiv/svarv/01.jpg
http://data.exet.nu/bildarkiv/svarv/02.jpg

>>117
Don't click these links. That contains images of dead bodies.

Which Chat In English is the real one?!

Both are real in enjoyable way.
You can post both sides in shift.

Oh, I see now. Disregard that.

This one looks better to me but I don't really care which to use.

>>93
'Blacklisting' is by far a more used term than 'whitelisting'.

It was more of a wishful feature, I guess, than a practical one. The
administration functions would have to be modified, and there would
have to be people looking through whitelisting requests, which would
take a lot of time.

It's always fun waking up in the morning to see all the new posts, but
I definitely wasn't expecting this dilemma lol. It kinda seems like this
thread is the official one...

My family went out for Japanese food last night. Apparently the restaurant was
the first Japanese restaurant in Chicago, founded in 1967. The city actually recognized this
and gave the owner an honorary street name just recently.

A belated Happy New Year to the Japanese posters!

>>124
What meals did you have?

>>125
We had yakitori and I think it was called ohitashi for appetizers.
We then had yakisoba and sushi (maki and nigiri). It was all really good.

* Randugulf
Quite a long time resident here but not many about him are known to everybody.
Rumor has it that he's just pervert.

He lives in Florida. He was born in Canada. He seems to be a PC game
mania.
These are the things come out of Rundugulf.

>>126
Definitely those of which are healthy food than american's one. Because they have low calorie content and high protein.

Reality shows are those shows like Big Brother, where they stick a load
of people in a house and get viewers to watch and vote who they want to
kick out. Or a similar show where they ship people to a jungle and make
them do tasks like eat live insects.

As long as I remember, this kind of show was started first in
Netherland. This stuff has not yet gotten popular in Japan.
We had a few TV programs which is to the world. a Tiger of Money?マネーの
虎 was my fovorite. The concept of "a tiger of money" was sold to
all over the world.
U.K version was broadcasted under the name of "Dragon's den".
I hope british here knows of it.

Hey アメリカ人, happy new year.
Supposedly, 2ch just lifted all the bans for New Years (kind of crazy), so check
if you can access without a proxy now.

>>130
Corrections:
You should have written as follows:
Presumably, the 2ch Internet forum has just lifted all bans with the start of the year.
The "New Years" you've written is just foolish.

>>130
Test!

Looks like it works. Thanks for the heads up!

Cool. I don't know how much longer this is supposed to last, though.

Ah, thank goodness.

>>133
America-jin, are you currently living in Japan or in your home country?
Anyway, you are a maverick, given this forum is somewhat one of the quirkiest in Japan.

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=eGIHeK-94sY&feature=related
If you foreigners can understand the funniness of the presenter's words
and behavior, your Japanese is perfect!

>>136
Are you a noob?

noob?

n00b

>>14
LoL. He volunteered to introduce himself.

>>119
This is the real one.

This thread is for all of

you NEETs, nerds, YouＴube-link spammers, pedophiles, neo-Nazis,
Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers, Part-Time-Preachers,
Diplomats' spoiled sons, losers who can't remember Kanji characters,
Big-boobs fans, Weeaboos from all around the world, learners of Japanese
who are too lazy to update their Japanese blogs very often, cunning
linguists!!!

Good morning.
I woke up at 10;00 today.
I am going to eat osechi today.
But I don't like osechi very much.
But I have to eat osechi because I'm supposed to eat osech on ochougatu.

>>143
Do you live with your family? If so your mom made it?

Or you just bought osechi at a convenient store or something?
I live with my parents so my mom made it.

I live with my parents and my grandmother, but they don't make osechi themselves.
Instead we order osechi from a restaurant every year.
Home-made osechi is rare these days.
You should be proud of your mother and do something that makes her happy immediately.

Happy New Year, everybody!

Well, for me it's the New Year in 3 hours... But still!

>>146
Are you the one who called yourself
カナダ人 in the previous threads?

>>147
I spent a very brief amount of time here a while ago, but I did call myself カナダ人.

It might've been me, or it could've been another Canadian. If it is me you're talking about, you have quite the memory.

・Japan is in the brink of bunkrupt.
・Our success is in sight.

Above sentenses make sense ? If there are grammatical or some other mistakes,
please let me know.

>>149
Japan is on the brink of bankruptcy.
Our success is in sight.

>>150
Thanks for your quick reply.
Happy New Year, カナダ人.

>>151
I am glad to help.
Happy New Year to you too.

Except some particle mistakes, 米人's Japanese
is O.K. Minor Particle mistakes are dismissible. We can understand
full meaning.

>>148
I remember you were doing a part time job at grocery store.
You must be in the same generation as sparky and アメリカ人, who
you may not know.

>>154
Oh wow, that was me. Well done... I didn't even remember saying that until now.
Well, as for my generation, I'm 17 years of age, though in two months it's my birthday.

２chの運営者様へ
私は日本語が下手ですからごめんなさい。「アメリカ人です。」
今2chに「spammer」の人がいるので「comcast」のispを使うアメリカ人　(に→は)　２chに書き込ませません。
でも法律に従うアメリカ人はたくさん　(が→delete) います。
それでそんな人にとって２chに書き込ませていただけませんか？
これを読んでありがとうございました。

I corrected crucial mistakes. 米人 has been so helpful and kind.
So I volunteered to teach Japanese in return.

それでそんな人にとって２chに書き込ませていただけませんか？
This one is awkward. But I couldn't think of
sigle, fixed answer.

sigle was meant as single.

>>156
What is that text about? I could understand only bits and pieces.

And it was very nice of you to help 米人.

That was a 米人's email letter to 2ch administrator.

>>159
Oh, okay, thanks. If I ever have any Japanese I need corrected, would you mind if I asked for your help in the future?

Ofcourse. Everybody here will offer help.

>>161
ありがとう, buddy. I really appreciate that.

From what has been done on this thread, people here seem to like to teach Japanese language to learners.
I also like it.

>>163
Yeah, it's a great resource for learners of both languages.

Watching TV is boring.
They broadcast お笑い and I got bored.

OK,
I'm here teach you the Japanese lanmguage.
[ subject + predicate + auxiliary ] makes a sentense.
ex.
watakushi-wa eigo-wo hanasu koto-ga-dekimasu.

Here is my rectified draft,
but I am not good at Japanese,
so I'm not sure whether or not it is enough to move the 2ch administration.

2chの運営の皆様へ

私は米国人であり、それ故に私の日本語には少しばかり不自然なところがあるかも知れません。
予めご了承下さいますよう、お願い申し上げます。

さて、現在comcastのispを使用している米国人が2chに書き込むことが出来なくなっているという、
甚だ不便な事態が生じております。原因は恐らく、spammerとして暗躍する業者がcomcastのisp
を通して2chのサーバに過度の負荷をかける行為を行ったことで、comcastのispが2ch管轄内の
全サーバにおいてアクセス禁止措置を課されたことに因るものと考えられます。

しかし、多くの米国人は法律を厳格に遵守し、他者に迷惑をかけるような行為には一貫して反対の
立場を取っており、従って悪質な広告業者とは明らかに一線を画す人々であります。

よって、そのような無実で、善良な人々を一刻も早く巻き添え規制から解放して頂けますよう、
この場を借りて強くお願い申し上げたい次第でございます。何卒よろしくお願いします。

見苦しい文章を最後まで読んで頂き、誠にありがとうございます。

[ modifier → subject 　+　 modifier → predicate ] makes a sentense.
ex.
yasashii watakushi-wa eigo-wo oshieru kyouinnde ari masu.

>>168
Hey, communist sympathizer!
What are you doing here?

>>168
Once again, I sincerely ask you.
Would you depict in detail how your comrade teachers were tortured and killed
by the Miyazaki Prefecture Board of Education.

>>170
×.→○?

I'm teaching the Japanese language
in a way [ basing on root of Language
[ which human [ beings ] have created and have used ] ].

>>170
I sincerely tell you.
Our comrade teachers [ who work at non college going senior high schools ] have been being tortured and have been killed
by college going senior high school teachers and the Miyazaki Prefecture Board of Education
[ which is represented by college going senior high teachers ].

>>172
What's your dream?
It's probably becoming a linguistic professor at MIT, if my memory serves me right.

>>173
Good.
But you must describe in a more vivid manner the unbearable plight they were put in
and the colossal mental pain inflicted upon them, or no one native speaker of English
here should not be convinced of God knows what affliction they suffered.

>>167
your japanese is perfect.
actually your japanese level is better than me.
would you teach me japanese.

>>167
Your Japanese is good enough.
If you continue to effort our learning, you may be able to reach
our native-japanese speakers' level soon.
The proverb goes, the most important thing is 'never give up'.
I bet you can! Good luck!

happy new year!!!!
there are two threads?
this one seems to be real?

Ah.

Here, the new year arrived without fanfare.

No countdown. No cheering. No firecrackers.

This...is probably the best it's going to be, huh?

>>176
>>167 is not what 米人 wrote. Someone corrected her original Japanese.
Still, the original is good enough, though.
I guess no Japanese learners can write that level of Japanese.
Maybe even I can't.

>>177
This is the real thread.

>>178
You don't like such countdown, cheering and firecrackers, do you?

>>177
happy new year, 火の星!

大凶...
How ominous...
Shit!

>>180
Tell me what I should write in my name section

>>180

What should I write in my name section to make【*** 円】 part
appear?

>>184
>>185
!omikuji!dama

>>177
I had though that this one was authentic,
but another one seemed to have turned into also real one.
So, both threads are working officially.

>>179
As for >>167, I was just kidding.
...Oh, your response(>>179) maybe also a joke !

×As for >>167
○As for >>176,

!dama

>>186
Thanks!

I got a 大吉! Yeah!

>>188
Oh, you were just joking... I didn't think it was. orz....

>>192
You did it!
Still another version is !kab.

To native English speakers

As you might know, we have custom to go to Shinto Shrine on New Years
holiday to pray for good lucks for a new year. Some poeple do omikuji
there. There are some types of omikuji. I think the most common one
is you pick up a foulded piece of paper from a box. After you pick up
one, you unfold the paper. Your new year's fortune is written on it.
It's like a fortune teller. It tells you lucks in rainging from business,
money, family matter and relationship, etc.

Your fortune is broadly divided into 大吉、中吉、小吉、吉、末吉、凶、大凶.
大吉、中吉、小吉、吉、末吉 are all good, 大吉 being the best luck,　末吉
being a little bit of luck.　凶and大凶 means you have to be careful
since you have no lucks the year.　大凶 being the worst, 凶 being a bad luck.

Now you seem to can try omikuji in 2ch, too. Just type !omikuji!dama
in your name section and 2ch tell's your luck for the year of 2009.

Maybe this omikuji sytem works only on January 1st, Japan time.

>>194
Let me try.

The same number "42". I wonder what this number means.

I know 株価 means "stock price" though.

>>198
When I tried !omikuji!dama!kab in another thread (not the other thread of Chat in English),
I got a different result.

I have no idea why the same digits were shown.
Maybe the best explanation is chance.

Omikuji means nothing.
Japanese take Omikuji just for fan.

>>199
I see, Thanks for the info.

>>200
You mean, "fun"
I'll go to a Shinto Shrine tomorrow but I don't try my luck by omikuji.
I usually don't every year.

No teacher is of no use [ if he is not less than some super teacher [ that exists now ] ].
[ Unless one is much more than the super teacher ], he is no use.
So who can be of great use at senior high schools
[ where English teachers have to teach the class [ speaking English ]?
The answer is obvious.
10 formula grammar teacher [ whose name is Kazuyoshi Kataoka ]
and [ who is so attractive as Brad Pitt ],
and [ who will welcome anyone [ who loves truth and peace ].

if not less＝下回らないというだけのことなら（いりませ〜ん）
の意味です
unless much more＝遥かに上回らない限り
片岡数吉英検一級１０公式英文法確立者だけが遥かに上回っているのです。

>>174
In a more vivid manner,
I shall disclose the unbearable plight [ they were put in ]
and the colossal mental pain [ inflicted upon them ].
OK, but later.
For now, I'm telling you [ that I'm kicking off the education board and go and work in Tokyo this [ coming ] April ].

robotinube

>>198
42 is the answer to life, the universe, and everything!

I was able to post!(from rr.com)
But maybe only during a new year season.....
check this right here http://qb6.2ch.net/_403/madakana.cgi

>>195

That's interesting, but there is little recognition of the religious
value of the holiday?

Let's see what omikuji I got. I hope it has something to do with panties!

>>208
I guess it's not working anymore? Darn...

sexy chat come in
http://ja.justin.tv/rikkiekiki

Is she sayaka?
http://ja.justin.tv/maah

>>167
I can't belive this one is by a foreigner. He even said he was not
good at English.
I think his japanese is even better than average japanese one.
lol
Very polite and intelligent way.

It's probably becoming a linguistic professor at MIT, if my memory serves me right.

Don't make me laugh...
He can't be a student in the first place. professor? never. lol
I think he can't enroll in elemantary school in netherland.
It's a sin to let that idiotic teacher free and continue his job.
Education board should have fired him.

Wow
not good at "Japanese".
proofread is important..

>>167 is most probably just a joke made by a native Japanese speaker, maybe a college student.
The contents of the email are grandiloquently expressed with the excessive use of inflated language
and in reality makes it rather hard to convey the original message written in a straightforward way.
In fact, however, it is well written and hyperbole is sometimes what you have to resort to especially
when you need to stretch a 2 page mediocre paper to a 5 page seemingly important one for school.
In short, someone busy wouldn't want to read that long ass email, but I kinda like it.

>>215
>stretch a 2 page mediocre paper to a 5 page
I'm a fan of increasing the font size of only the periods in a paper.
The actual period doesn't get bigger, but the spacing around it does.
The more periods you have, the more effective this trick is =P.

>>156
Thank you so much for the corrections!
I was a little embarrassed to see that I had put an extra "が" in there.
I should have known better.

>>167
I tried translating this. It certainly explains the situation in more detail
than I could ever attempt. And there were a lot of useful vocabulary words
in there! I particularly like the sentence "何卒よろしくお願いします。"
It suits me, somehow.
But one question: how do you translate "よう", when it appears mid-sentence without
"に" or "な"? It looks like a conjunction, but I can't find anything about it in
my dictionaries.
For example, I wasn't sure how to translate the following sentence:
" 予めご了承下さいますよう、お願い申し上げます。"
"Please acknowledge this beforehand (referring to the inability to use Japanese), (very polite) please."
Is that close to the intended meaning?

>>217
(I'm not >>167.)
I can share your feeling when you see '〜よう' and judge it as conjunction.
I think you are right.

>" 予めご了承下さいますよう、お願い申し上げます。"
>"Please acknowledge this beforehand (referring to the inability to use Japanese), (very polite) please."
Your translation is very good.
That's almost same as what is expressed in the original sentense.

'予めご了承下さいますよう、お願い申し上げます。' can be said
'予めご了承下さいますことを、お願い申し上げます。 '.
You can say 'I expect that you acknoledge my innability to use Japanese beforehand', maybe.

I got a puppy today. Don't have a name yet. Right now I am calling it
"Dog".

Please give me your suggestions.

Is "Dog" not a good name for a dog, then?
How about "Ddog"?
The extra "d" is for "distinguished".

>>217
(I'm not >>167, either.)

A literal translation may be "I politely ask you to acknowledge this beforehand",
'よう' corresponding to 'to'.

You can add 'に' after 'よう', the meaning, I think, being the same,
but ように sounds redundant here, at least to my ear.
(I have no idea how other Japanese natives feel.)

But you can't add 'な' after 'よう' here, for 'ような' functions in an adjectival way,
as in '今日我々が知っている"ような"言語' 〔language as we know it today〕, denoting
'manner' because ような is 連体形 of ようだ. (What is 連体形 in English?)

The literal translation I presented above may probably sound a little harsh,
so it would be advisable to say,
"I would be most grateful if you could make allowance for this as you read".

You could name your dog "Steve French".
Or "Mr. Roboto".

>>218
Thank you for explaining that to me!
I enjoy trying to translate from Japanese into English, although
I am very slow at it, and I make a lot of mistakes.
Right now, I am reading (very slowly!) a story called "Silence" by Haruki
Murakami. One of my Japanese teachers was a big fan of his work, and
she gave it to me to read. I've been working on it little by little for
a while now. Recently I bought a book called "The Elephant Vanishes", which
is a collection of Murakami's stories translated into English (including "Silence").
It is interesting to compare the story in Japanese to the official English
translation. The translator changed some things, and even added material
to make it sound more natural in English.

>>221

>But you can't add 'な' after 'よう' here, for 'ような' functions in an adjectival way,
>as in '今日我々が知っている"ような"言語' 〔language as we know it today〕, denoting
>'manner' because ような is 連体形 of ようだ. (What is 連体形 in English?)

I don't want to offend you, but I think above explanation is a bit redundant since it isn't
related to the meanig of the original one.
To avoid causing her confusion, you shouldn't give extra information when it's not really neccessary.

>>219
I hope you are feeling better.
Is it a male or female puppy?
I suggest a short name, so it's easier for the dog to learn its
name for commands. You could call it "Dawg".
(Or maybe not; Urban Dictionary lists some negative associations
for that word.)

>>224
But she said in >>217,

"one question: how do you translate "よう", when it appears mid-sentence without "に" or "な"."

So I judged that it would be more appropriate to mention 'ような'.

>>219
Someone once said,
“Call a dog bad. Call a dog mad. Then shoot him.”

>>226
I understand.
It maight be neccessary to refer to the usage of 'ような' to make clear
that 'ような' doesn't suit in the context.

>>221
Thank you for your help!
連体形 in English is defined as a "participle adjective".
I'm not familiar with the term, but when I checked it, it seems to
be a verb form (either present or past participle) that is used as
an adjective.
broken dishes, falling trees, interesting people etc.

The usage doesn't suit in this context.
The usage doesn't fit in this context.
The usage isn't appropriate in this context.

Are there some grammatical mistakes or something like that ?
Please let me know if there are.

>>230
You wouldn't use the preposition "in" after suit, so
"The usage doesn't suit this context." is better.
The other two sentences are fine grammatically.
I like the third sentence the best, but that is just my personal
preference.

>>231
Thank-you.

>>225

Oh oops. It is a male puppy.
http://www.puppysites.com/deluxe/smpuppy.jpg
Looks kind of like that, but a lot smaller and younger.

>>233
Oh... he is really cute..
but he seems to be uneasy.
He needs affection as human children do.

>>222
Mister, which province are you now in?

>>233
Ah, if it's a small dog, how about naming it "Smalldog"?

...it's a good thing that you don't have a big dog.
"BigDog" makes me think of some frightening things.
Well, one frightening thing in particular...

>>236
'Smalldog' is really BAD name.
The dog would sorrow sincerly if he knew the name isn't used as a name everywhere.

>>233
How about "Little bit"?
In a small book of StarGate, one of the main chalacter, Daniel, said "Hmm... not a bad name for a smelly thing."
Hoops.
But actually he likes that strange animal.

>>207
I don't think New Year's holidays themselves have religious meaning.
But going to Shinto shrine have religious meaning, I guess, if Shinto
is a religion. I'm Japanese but I don't know much about Shinto.
And almost no Japanese don't know much about religion.
After all, Japan is a country where they celebrate Christmas without
knowing much about the background of it and we don't recognize
contradictions to Buddhism.

>>208
I'll read your fortune this year instead.
Here you go! Wow, 大吉!
That means yoou are blessed with panties mor than ever this year.
Lucky you!

>>233
How about calling him Elvis?
If you don't mind my asking, how did you get the puppy?
Got it from a dog's shelter?
Is it a dog with a pedigree paper or a mixed dog?

In Japan, a dog with a pedigree is more popular than mixed dog.
People shell out good money for a dog with a pedigree.

I learned "pedigiree" for the first time from the name of a finisig hold
of HHH, Hunter Hearst Helmsley.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=FFA02fnmUU0

Now that his early gimic was an aristcrat from Germany, the name
sounds convincing.
Is HHH widely known in America? No? Only prowrestling geeks know of him?
Is the most probable reactions from average Americans likely to be that kind?
"Heard of but doesn't know of him in detail and have little in terest in him". ?

Is WWE considered for the people of low IQ? Does chats about WWE
offend people, depending on the situation and who I talks to?

Personally I didn't like him. I don't like his long and boring speech
which he seems to believe eloquent. I don't like his narcissistic,
old-fashioned moves which he seem to believe classical.
These just embarrassed me.

With that said, HHH's body and muscle are awesome.

About the etymology and structure of "よう of 予めご了承下さいますよう、お願い申し上げます", I studied.
よう seems to the sound of 様,　which means so, way , manner, fashion, status and as such.
As for the structure, 予めご了承下さいますよう seem to function as adverb clause
or adverb phrase.
Would "the direct translation" be like "please, stay so(on the condition) that you
acknowlege this beforehand"?
I know it's awkard and couldn't convey the original meaning well.

Few Japanese think what the structure of the sentence is.

Some might think "よう" sounds auxillary verb, よう which
indicates will and determination. We say "英語を勉強してみよう"　I will study english.

Maybe these images are complicated in our minds. But there must be the right
answer. I guess the first theory is right linguistically.

http://www.google.co.jp/search?hl=ja&rlz=1T4GGLG_ja___JP225&q=%22%E4%B8%8B%E3%81%95%E3%81%84%E3%81%BE%E3%81%99%E6%A7%98%22+%E3%80%80&lr=
google results of "下さいます様".

We preferably describe you with hiragana.
http://www.google.co.jp/search?hl=ja&rlz=1T4GGLG_ja___JP225&q=%22%E4%B8%8B%E3%81%95%E3%81%84%E3%81%BE%E3%81%99%E3%82%88%E3%81%86%22&btnG=%E6%A4%9C%E7%B4%A2&lr=

>>242
>>243
repetitive

>>240
Is there actually any classical move in prowrestling?

>>239

I got him from some old lady who breeds dogs. Dog was with a pedigree. Even got
to see the parents of the puppy. The lady had a number of puppies to
choose from, but I got the golden colored one.

As a side note, the lady used to own an antique store and had a lot of
cool stuff - like an old grandfather clock and a lot of paintings of what
I assume is European loyalty.

Hitler loves dog.
Dog person is a sign of good person.

I've just read that Hiroyuki finally handed over 2ch to a web company in Singapore.
It seems like sort of a trick that helps Hiroyuki to keep himself from being sued,
or for tax purposes. But no one knows any details yet.

>>248
Wow, I just read that as well: ttp://asiajin.com/blog/2009/01/02/2chnet-ownership-moved-to-singapore-company/

>>249
My source says the new admin is Jim-san, who has stopped by this thread before.
Packet Monster.. there's no way this name can sound remotely serious.

>>250
Jim is an admin. Then, what kinda merit for us is gonna appear?
I mean, for ex. is it possible he decides about regulation?

>>251
I think it's just that Hiroyuki is no longer personally liable for what's written on 2ch.
Probably, that's it.

>>252
Hah... the status that puts Hiroyuki in trouble about contents on 2ch was given to Jim.
But, previously he could have control about regulation, right?
How do they treat this? Is it also done the same?

>>253
There's no announcement whatsoever about any change in management or
administration at the moment. So, it might stay the same I guess.

>>254
Ok, let's see what the future brings.
Thanks anyway.Have a good day.

>>233
That puppy is just too cute!
Make sure you teach him right from wrong.
You don't want him to break your heart down the road, like this guy:
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=6J0SejyDPCo

>>246
Dog in >>233 is so cute. And your dog is smaller and younger than that.
Then he must be extremely cute. Is he a Golden Retriever?

"got" means "bought" in your case? You didn't get him free of charge, did you?
You've been wanted to own a dog?

>>249
The blog is about webservices of Japan. I read somewhere one of the
writers are German and others are Japanese who're good at English.
What do you think of their English on the blog? Is it slightly different
from that of a native English speaker? I can't tell the difference but
sometimes, something is a bit odd about thier English. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

>>257
I never even suspected they were non-native speakers. Well actually
there are little things, but I just figured they were proofreading mistakes.

>>258
I see. Then it's me who's wrong.

This dog
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=WsKkICOeNCw&feature=channel

became like this when he/she's grown up.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=nPAuh8wP6Sc&feature=channel

>>242
よう in 予・・・よう indicates a modality, because what is expressed in 予め・・・よう
is not realized at the time when the speaker (or the writer) makes the utterance
and it is uncertain whether or not it will be realized in the future.

The English equivalent of よう in this particular case, therefore, should be a 'To-Infinitive'
or a 'that (clause) + modal verb', or as >>217 suggested in her translation, an 'imperative
mood'.

As for the structure of the sentence concerned, 予め・・・よう cannot be taken as an adverbial
element, because it is in the object slot of お願い・・・上げます, as >>218 implied in his/her
paraphrase.

>>251
If Jim is admin, then there will be slacker rules for perverts. I just
hope he understands there are such things here as blanket host bans, which
he has vehemently denied earlier.

Jim-san seems to be still a tech. support person and part of the admin,
just as he's been doing for the past years. Since it was me who brought him up first,
I feel like I have to mention this. Everything except the change on the FAQ page,
"2ch.net is managed and operated by PACKET MONSTER INC. ", looks the same as before.

Maybe nothing will change about 2ch in essense.
Probably the company in Singapore which is supposed to run 2ch is just a
dammy company. It's all about Hiroyuki (2ch's admin, ex admin is more
correct) not having to be responsible for legal issues related to posts
in 2ch. That's all.

robotinmaibara

>>260
Where did you get that theory?
Can you show me the resource?

BS, BS, BS, nothing but BS!

If よう is auxiliary verb よう equivalent to "to", not kanji 様
equivalent to "fashion",
http://www.google.co.jp/search?hl=ja&rlz=1T4GGLG_ja___JP225&q=%22%E4%B8%8B%E3%81%95%E3%81%84%E3%81%BE%E3%81%99%E6%A7%98%22&btnG=%E6%A4%9C%E7%B4%A2&lr=
the result above shows there are misconceptions even among native japanese
speakers. 様 is used in Even a (notable) university website and some official
corporation webseites.

Hello Everybody!

>>268
Are you a native english spearker?

>>269
Yes, I am, how about you?

>>270
I'm not, sorry
where are you from? perhaps 4ch btw

>>271
Yes, I am from 4-ch. I have an odd interest in Internet culture.

>>270
I'll stay true. How about you?

>>274
If you mean 'stay honest', then yes.

I wrote a small interface using frames to browse this board. An English menu on the left, a quick reference of common Japanese words used here on the bottom, and the board itself in the middle!

I'm glad to hear that.
This is a tribute for you.

I remember the day when we held hands and made that vow! Until
death do us part-It was a time to be proud! But you wouldn't
stay the test of faith and face the trouble that we face! To
stay with a man who would make a stand for his country and
his race! Now we each must make a choice and bear the burden
of the consequence! But if you choose and you make a turn you
can bet we’ll meet again across that fence!

I’ll stay true, how about you? Until Victory…!

To all those in a jail, those persecuted for the cause-Your actions were
not in vain, soon the light of freedom will shine again! And
if you’ve lost your home, your job or someone that you love-Stand your
ground there’s a place for you in the Kingdom that’s to come!

>>276
Hahaha, very nice!

I’ll stay true, how about you? Until Victory…!

Now if you’ve heard the call don’t be afraid we can never fall!
That’s a promise from above-‘Till His will let it be done and
we can see this through if we remain true!

I’ll stay true, how about you? Until Victory…!

　　　／l、
　　 (ﾟ､ ｡｀ﾌ - Nyaa!
　　 ｣　 "ヽ
　　()ιし(~)〜

>>279
　／l、
　　 (ﾟ､ ｡｀ﾌ - Miaow!
　　 ｣　 "ヽ
　　()ιし(~)〜

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　　　　　　 　　 　ヽ丶 　 ∧＿∧ 　COME BACK HERE LIVING BLOCK!
　　　　　　　　 ミ 　＼丶（　｀Д´）
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　　 　　　 　 ミ< ￣）　/　　　／
　　　　　　　　　　ヽ ∨　　　（
　　　　　　　　　　　ヽ__ノ~＼ ＼
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　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　 ミ　＿＿　　AAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!
　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　ヽ|・Д・|ノ
　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　ミ　|へ＿|
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>>281
Darn, is there a preview feature here?

>>282
There seems to be no such a thing as a preview feature here orz....

>>283
So I can't see if my AA is correct when I post? 乙! Am I able 〜する my posts? (Also I love the リロード feature)

>>284
No, you can't, dude....
Maybe visiting ttp://love6.2ch.net/aasaloon/ will do.

I recall there being a "statistics" page showing some data about post counts on each board, but can't seem to find it...

>>284
Visit ttp://aaesp.at.infoseek.co.jp/
and download "Ascii Art Editor".

>>287
乙 orz!

"statistics" page here
http://dokoaa.com/

>>289
That's not the one I recall seeing, I think it had a black background... But thank you! I shall also check that link out too!

2ch has originally the black background cases. I can't help it.
But you'll find something sweet AA on there. Good luck.

>>291
Okay, thank you!

>>290
Check this out: http://stats.2ch.net/suzume.cgi
I guess this is what you've been looking for.

>>293
Yes! It is! 乙, 神!

I hope LiteralKa isn't another Sparky.

>>295
I am not nearly as bad as Sparky...

hahaha, you know who Sparky is.

>>297
Oh, yes, they annoy the English boards too.

>>298
Yay for using gender in-specific pronouns!

who are you, and who is sparky

>>300 I am a native English speaker. Sparky is the devil.

Goodnight all!

He also seems to have ADHD. Maybe it is condition lot of native
speakers have.

>>302
Judging from the time you sleep, you must live on the East Coast.

>>304
Very astute observation!

So what's time is it now there?

>>306
11:34:51

アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2, LiteralKa ◆BeI04Es0rw happened to post on almost the same time.
http://academy6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1230724374/670

Just a random thought, but

>>308
Heh, interesting.

It's synchronicity, I guess....

Well, It's like a doppelganger I suppose.
and you need to start out protecting your life.

>>310
Are you a university student?

You said you are 4channeler but how did you get to know this thread?
Someone put a link to 2ch on 2chan and you just followed the link?

>>312
I assume you are responding to me...
Well, I found this board on 4-ch, and found this thread pretty easily.

>>313
You seem to have a negative feeling against sparky, but why?
Do you known to each other ?

>>314
He does not know me, but he has a very, very bad reputation on... well... every imageboard I know of.

>>314
Everyone hates sparky!

>>315
Really ? I didn't know that he was infamous person on the internet.
For me, however, he doesn't seem to be such a bad guy.
He has educated and preached on this thread by many anonimous and native-speakers, so his bad manner
has a bit improved, I think. So I think it's time to forgive him for the time being.

>>317
I await a single redeeming post.

>>318
Leave Sparky alone. I didn't like him much at first, either, but I realize now that he's a nice enough guy.

Has he ever said anything bad about you?

>>319
I don't hate him, I just dislike him. He hasn't said anything bad about me, I doubt he even knows who I am. He's just annoying, he's a nice enough guy, but annoying.

Well, he's a very important person here, literally a VIP, even though he acts like a VIPPER
every once in a while.

>>320
You don't need to insult him at every turn, though. All it does is make you look small.
I understand where you're coming from, though, but still, cut Sparky some slack.

That said, I don't mean to sound confrontational.

>>321
Well, I don't really dislike him, per say, it's just that his reputation overwhelms him.

>>321
haha,, it sounds good!

Also, >>295 kinda put me off guard.

>>323
Did you know about him before you came here and met him ?

>>326
Yes. I also saw a fair quantity of his posts.

It's ok to have any opinions about him. It's like we're sort of experimenting to find out
how much more patient we could possibly be towards indeliberate trolling.
Besides, it's fun to have him here, most of the time or sometimes.

>>328
Very nicely put!

>>323
My mom told me not to believe anyone who uses "per se" too often.
My dad told me anyone who spells it as "per say" doesn't know what it means.

>>330
It's better than the other atrocities of the English language appear on this board

It is very true. If you get paid per sex, then you get a name for that.

>>332
Herpes?

>>329
So, you're interested in Japan to a certain extent?

Some foreigners who has come to 2ch often say they watched train man
drama. Some loves anime, J-pop, something related to Japan.

I understand the part of your handle name "Literal" but I wonder what the "ka" mean?

As for Sparky, as someone said he behaves well these days bacause
foreigners here told him to behave and controle himself before
acting like a spammer and troll.

He's something to talk about when there's nothing to talk about.
I mean, some people depend on him in a way as a topic of this thread.
We don't have to mention him when we have nothing to talk about in my
opinion.

385 ：カナダ人：2009/01/02(金) 12:10:14
>>383
Yes, I have heard some pretty... bad things about the English classes on your side of the pond...

If I'm not wrong, North Americans and Brtish people refer to "pond" as Pascific
ocean but in this case, you seem to mean Pacific ocean. Doesn't that
sound odd? It's North America and UK that are located in either sides
of the pond, meaning Atlantic ocean.

819 ：ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc ：2009/01/05(月) 13:23:15
You know those generic Japanese ghosts you often see in horror movies?
I'm talking about the ones with the long hair over their faces.
I bet they'd look nice if they wore ponytails instead.

There's no point in looking nice. Ghosts have to look scary.
Hair covering their face is crucial because that stir up the audience's
imagination about how these ghosts look like. Chances are their faces
are distorted with agony or pain or have scars in their faces.

I read another thread but I take it is a fake thread so I post here
instead.

I'd put the case that "on your side of the pond" is one of the phrase.
then I googled it to define what it is.

As a result, google said it as "on the other side of the pond"
Besides, http://eow.alc.co.jp/%e5%af%be%e5%b2%b8%e3%81%ae%e7%81%ab%e4%ba%8b/UTF-8/
said it's one of the proverb.

>>337
I also had thought that another thread is a fake one, but this idea is out of date now.
Obviously, both threads are real, or rather another one has more popularity than this one has.
I post on both threads without thinking much now.

>>338
Let me correct first.
XIf I'm not wrong, North Americans and Brtish people refer to "pond" as Pascific
ocean but in this case, you seem to mean Pacific ocean.

OIf I'm not wrong, North Americans and Brtish people refer to "pond" as Atlantic
ocean but in this case, you seem to mean Pacific ocean.
対岸の火事　is irrelevant here.

As far as I know, "pond" sometimes means Atlantic ocean.
So when British people say, "on the other side of the pond," or "on your
side of the pond," that means, "in North America" and when American (or Canadian)
says "on the other side of the pond," or " on your side of the pond,"
that means "in UK."

But in >>336, カナダ人 seems to mean Japan by "on your side of the pond."
I just thought when Canadian says "on your side of the pond" that has
to mean "in UK." So I just asked the question to make sure.

>>340
it's more like a nick name. more popular in the uk than usa.

I thought カナダ人 replyed that even though you said english education system of japan is bad things,
and he regarded it as having nothing to do with our conditions one.

>>334
Well, the "Ka" is actually short for "Kaiser", I kind of just randomly picked a name; and this was on IRC and it cut it off at LiteralKa.

>>343
Ah, I see. Thanks for your response.

>>321
What is a VIPPER?
I've seen the term, but I don't know what it is.

>>344 No problem!
>>345 ヴィッパ

vippers are basically the 2ch counterpart of /b/tards

>>347
Thank you!

what does "アッゴッドコックスワロタ" mean?

It is originally not proper to draw comparison between board for japanese use and board for english use.

>>348
I'll give you more detaled explanation.
As you know, 2ch has lots of boards and there's one board called
ニュース速報VIP board, which can be translated as "News bulletin VIP"
board.

The title is News bulletin but in reality, there in News bulletin VIP board,
they don't discuss news at all. People there make threads randomly.
They sometimes do stupid things like people in 4chan's /b/ board such as
writing bombardment of comments in a particular blog so that it can't
function.

The call thmselves VIPPER, meaning very important person but some 2channelers
think they are just a crowd of stupid people.

（>>1の続き）
女性器はイヤラシイ形をしているが、個人的にはもっともっとイヤラシイ形をしてい
てほしかったと思う。一例を挙げると性的に興奮したら女性器から最長３ｍぐらいま
で伸びるような触手を出して男性器に絡み付き、膣内に引き込むといった機能が備
わっていてもよかったのではなかろうか。
もし実際に女性器にそうした機能があったとしたら、私は小学６年生ぐらいの色白で
髪が長くて大人しい、赤いリボンとフリフリフリルの可愛い服がトレードマークの学
校一の人気者の美少女小学生に生まれ変わりたい。
そして学校で授業中エッチなことを考えたために、自分の意に反して膣内から触手が
うねうね出てきて、最初はスカートの上から膣口を手で押さえ込もうとするが、押さ
えつけようとしている手の脇から触手がはみ出してきて、ついにはスカートの裾まで
進出し恥ずかしい粘液まみれの触手が生々しい臭気を周囲に漂わせながら斜め前
の席に座っている好きな男子の股間に伸びてゆく場面をクラスメイト全員に見られて
しまい、赤面した顔を両手で押さえて泣きじゃくったあげく、遠い街の学校に転校したい。

How come did you look down on those people?
Do you have something information enough to entertain people, except for describing those people as idiots.
If you don't, you're just fat-mouth as only for responding to native english speaker.

Help, please.
　Which mechanisms-convection, conduction, and/or radiation-best describe the following energy transfers?
1)a warm breeze blowing inland
2)a damp cloth cooling your forehead
3)a spoon warming in a coffee cup
4)a microwave heating a bowl of soup

>>352
I translated the first word...and decided not to read any more.

>>354
Physics, oh my. Not my strong suit.
conduction--transfer of heat via direct contact of particles of matter
convection--transfer of heat via movement of a heated fluid
radiation--transfer of heat energy through an empty space
So, I would guess:
1) convection
2) conduction
3) conduction (but I'm not 100% sure)
4) radiation

>>355
Thanks for help.
I'm so suck on Physics either.
I can't understand why most of Dutches I know like such a stupid study.
Anyway, thanks again.

Students learn what is written in >>354 at elemetary school, but
if the question is written in English I found it really hard to
understand.

Somehow I understand what the word conduction means in Japanese and
I can guess the other two, the other ways of transfering heat.
After that it was pretty easy to answer the question. I think 米人
answered right.

>>354
You study heat transfer in elementary school?
I am very impressed.
I don't think I learned those terms until college, but I spent most
of my high school physics class looking out of the classroom windows...

>>358
We sure learn the three ways of heat transfer in elementary school.
I don't mean we learn complicated calculation of how much calories are
tranfered and all at elementary school, though. We just learn there are three ways of heat transfer
and each of the names, 伝導(conduction)対流（convection）and 放射（radiation)
and examples of wash of them.

>>359
You kiddin me! I never heard such terms in elementary or even in middle.
Oh, don' mention me facing down on my desk, though.

>>360
I'm serious.
I googled to prove I'm right.
Look at the bottom of the page 7.
http://ext-web.edu.sgu.ac.jp/koide/rika/Lec10.pdf

Other links.
http://web-sensei.jp/plan0704.htm
http://209.85.175.132/search?q=cache:C1rVFn99WuUJ:www.meishinken.co.jp/exam/m_test/outline_4.html+%E4%BC%9D%E5%B0%8E%E3%80%80%E5%AF%BE%E6%B5%81%E3%80%80%E6%94%BE%E5%B0%84+%E7%90%86%E7%A7%91&hl=ja&ct=clnk&cd=14&gl=jp&lr=lang_ja

We learn heat transfer in detail in junior high or high school but
we first learn it at elementary school.

>>359
you are smart guy. i forgot everything, i even don't understand what you are talking about.

I just realized something.

Whenever a Christian character shows up in Japanese media,
he or she is almost always Catholic.
I wonder why that is?

>>363
I never thought about the differences between Cathoric and Protestant
or other fractions of Christanity in my daily life. All I know is Cathoric
people call a gathering at church "mass," while protestant people don't.
Other stuff I know is, Cathoric people are the origine of Christianity and
Protestant came later and was prosecuted and moved to New continent now called
America on Mayflower.

So what features of the characters in Japanese media makes you think
they are Cathoric? Maybe outfit?

>>364
I've just learned from your post that you don't know anything about Christianity and that in Japan. You're just spreading your vage idea of what it is in your mind.

To >>999 of the last thread,

I too think it's interesting. Apparently that's where even native speakers may get tripped up!
But my understanding is that a language is defined by actual usage, not by linguists.
So I think we don't need care too much about the "proper" grammar. What we speak is the actual, living language.

>>998(in another thread)
OK, I understand that the usage of 'country' is essential point, with regard to the my question.
Thanks a lot!

Then, do you think the following sentense is correct in terms of the usage of 'the'?

Generally speaking, people living in 'the' urban area long for the way of life in the country ?

>>367
I'd say "in urban areas" if the sentence means 都会人ってのは田舎の暮らしに憧れるもんさ。

But the urban area, the urban areas, an urban area are all grammatically correct.
Probably the meaning follows the general rule I described.
The point is the noun "area" also has various meanings and their usages can vary,
so articles (and whether it's singular or plural) depend on what you mean by "area."

Where's a native speaker!?

happy new year everyone

>>369
Happy new year to you.

>>370
your english skil is really good, how did you get your english?

wow
with regard to the my question
-> with regard to the question

>>368
I understand. Thanks.
Well, I guess the difficulty of understanding how to use 'the' lies in a particular usage
of each word, like the case of 'area'.
Anyway, I also wait for a native-speaker to come too--
Thanks.

>>371
Is "Happy new year to you" that good??

Anyway, I often make grammatical errors and speak "engrish" very fluently lol.
I think my English skills are abysmal when compared with native English speakers' fluency.
You know, they say it's a case of the pot calling the kettle black. 五十歩百歩だよね。
There's little if any difference between non-native speakers in this thread.

Actually, my grammar is fucked up already and my vocabulary is next to nothing!
That's why I'm posting in this thread; we can hone our English skills together.

I do think native and non-native speakers in this thread helped me improve my English.

>>373
wtf?

>>373
preach that shit

>>373
when you watch a us movie, you could understand without japanses subtitles?
i'll check out tomorrow if you would post for me.
good night

>>364
"Mass" is actually the name of a specific rite, not just any gathering.

Differences between Roman Catholics and other sorts of Christians?
Le me see what I can come up with off the top of my head...

I may get some facts wrong, but I'll do my best to be accurate.

Roman Catholics consider the Pope in Vatican City their leader.
They believe that a person must be baptized to enter heaven.
"Confessions" (the admitting of sins, taking place in a small booth) is primarily associated with Roman Catholics.
It is mostly pre-Reformation forms of Christianity that have nuns.
Roman Catholics are more likely to cross themselves.

I read this thread.
It's so long.
you should write one sentence!

>>368
Enough, already.
No matter how you are calling any native speakers, They are amazed at your wordily speech.
So switch the conversation next time.

>>379
You know my favorites? Trolling and bullshitting. Hypocrisy is my religion.
engrish is my mother tongue. And it's your second language too.
You seem to think all looong posts are by the same person.
But how do you know that? Can you prove it?

Your angry replies only make my penis harder ^_^

>>363
We don't know anything about Christianity, and Catholic just sounds cool and hawt. Thats why. I think.
About the only thing I and most of Japanese people know about Christniy is Jesus. He got burned
on a cross and revived himself in a blazing rage. Moses used magic to split a river and killed the Egyptian
Army. Then after the river got back to normal, Jesus turned the water into wine and walked on it.
Then he had a dinner with his men and Brutus betrayed him and poisoned the food and Jesus died again.

>>380
I think you and I can get along well, because I revel in faggotry and sorcery!

>>377
I have thought that every Christian does "Confessions" whether he is a Cathorics or not.

>>382
>revel in faggotry and sorcery!
>faggotry and sorcery!
> sorcery!

It might be good for your mental health to stop watching anime and stuff for a while.
Moderation is your friend, man.

What? I don't watch anime much at all.
Why sorcery = anime? I take back my sattement, you starting to sound like some gay old man.

lol

>>385
I don't know if such a weird equation would make anyone look like a fag.
Just pretend everyone is a cute girl (or a boy if you're female).
Life is peachy that way.

>>380
engrish is my mother tongue.

I think it's so funny to see a native English speaker who can't spell "English".

>>388
I'm Japanese...

>>387
A cute girl? What the hell? Again, you talk like some gay old man. It's like the more you talk, the more
you get sucked into the old man sandhole spiral. You should stop now.

>>388
Google Engrish

Oh, I never knew engrish is a slang.
Sorry for everyone...

>>390
I am sorry for behaving in a way that some users of this board have been offended or some shit.
It was not my intention that my caress words caused trouble in this precious thread or some shit.
I am most grateful if you, other posters, and lurkers could let me have a nice, productive talk again or some shit.
I believe this place is the best English practice thread I have ever seen or some shit.
I hope we can enjoy a conversation in English or some shit.

...well, i got bored. See ya if I would ever come back.

>>392
go to engrish.com, funny stuffs

>>394
It'll hurt your English grammar.

>>383
If you see a character speaking to a priest through a lattice in an enclosed booth,
that person is a Roman Catholic.
Usually, before confessing, the character might say something like "Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned".

ey! SUP？

>>397
Oh, nothing!

>>398
I haven't seen you for a while. How's /g/ going?

>>399
Fine. Anonymous hates me less and less every day.
I actually haven't been on there as much either, because of being with friends that I haven't seen in a while, and enjoying my Christmas present.

>>400
Glad to hear you're doing well.

>Anonymous hates me less and less every day.

Why do you trip? I'm not saying trips are for attention whores or anything,
but I think it definitely causes certain hostility in some anonymous.
It's like you're asking for it. I've never used names or trips.
Maybe because you've been using that name in other forums too?

>>401
No, this name started only a month or two ago, on /g/.
I use it because I can. I like to be remembered, whether for good or bad.

Captain who are you?
Identify yourself.

I always thought that using a name and a tripcode is identifying enough

Is Captain Spicard your identity?
Ha!

That's what they call me, online anyway!

>>402
I also sometimes want to be remembered and recognized.
But if I really want, I can go any forums where you should register, unlike 4chan and 2ch.
Have you tried another forum too?

I can read your mind.

>>408
Post what I'm thinking right now then.

>>407
Don't like normal forums. When EVERYONE has a name, it gets tiring.

>>409
You are thinking about what you are thinking about.

>>377
It's just that we Japanese lump all Christians altogether.
We don't even know differences between fractions of Christians
although some people know vague differences between Cathoric and
Protestant. The gesture of making a cross in front of your chest is
our stereotype of Christians that's why you thought all characters
in anime are Cathoric.

>>377
And confessions are our stereotype of Christians, too.

>>411
HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT?! SCARY!!11

>>410
Haha, I know what you mean. I don't like normal forums very much either.

This is interesting.

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Marriage

Sup.

Did Sparky ambush and bate his breath in the previous thread to get 1000?
It's amusing.

Accoring to an admin report of 2ch, they just banned those three US ISPs yet again.

Sparky didn't post before 1000 counts but he won
1000.

>>418
Can you tell me why admins ban Americans? Are they doing something naughty on other boards?

By the way, is an adjective COUNTRY, which means rural, become uncountable noun when
it is topped with the?
Like the country?

>>421
According to the Oxford Dictionary of English, it is a noun. No adjective usage is on the list.

What do you like about living in the country? : 田舎暮らしのどこが好きですか？
It's haunted my mind a bit.
Just forget. I started to think >>421 was strange even though I knew
I didn't get the gist of "the countery".

>>420
No, none of them did anything that could cause a ban, I suppose.
They say those 3, comcast.net, dyn.optonline.net, res.rr.com let their users make proxy servers
on their domain so easily that even a Japanese spammer could take advantage of them.
They just want to block as many proxies as possible.

単に運動不足なんだよ。筋肉が発達してないから疲れやすいんだよ？

hey fuckers
what r u gonna do today?

>>425
This is one excerpt from 日本語 基本構文７００選.
Study this Japanese sentece.

シチューもお魚も沢山あるよ。

じゃね！

short detour through Thailand...

Barrel rolling via Thailand...

Cool that Sagat is still on your side though.

>>429-430
Oh, you are having hard time now...

Captain Spicard, I've not seen you for a while! Hello〜

I just picked up "The Man With No Name" series featuring Clint Eastwood. Oh, and "The Last Samurai".
Tom Cruise running around with samurai armour always gets me. He is fighting for the honour of Scientology!

I'm fuking now!

>>435
with your right hand

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who explained は/が in the previous thread.
It helped me a bunch so I made sure to save the posts.

I have my Japanese final next week Thursday. I don't think it'll be that bad; the whole thing is multiple choice.

>>436
ahaha!
you were getting me 1pon!

>>437
Yes, their explanations about は/が were pretty good, and surely it's worth saving, I think.

Do you see the Top gear of BBC2?

I think it's good for studing UK english.

>>437
Well, what sorts of questions your teacher make ?

In Japan, a common type of exam in Japan is reading English writings and answering the questions.
How about your exam ?

I just hope EG 421 423 441, annoying gits aka ばか will be banned immediately.

>>434
Do you have faith in Scientology or any other some cults?
they are always scared me.

I'll go out to make a bank account. I'm cool.

Got a lot of good things on sale stranger!!

>>442
That's a nice idea!
But why you aren't included among them?

>>427
(1)Someone/Something -ga somewhere-ni iru/aru.
(2)Someone/Something -ga something-o suru.
(3)Someone/Something -wa somehow-de aru.

These are basic 3 formulas of Japanese language.
Do you know why the post position is wa with (3), while with (1),(2), they are ga?

>>441
Normally we have two 45 minute multiple choice tests in class before our official final.
One is more heavily reading comprehension based while the other is straight grammar/vocabulary.
Then we usually act out a dialogue with a partner during the final period. However, for some
reason my teacher decided to only do the multiple choice tests this time.

>>448
What's the most difficult part for you in Japanese ?

>>427
Those 3 formulas consist the subject and the predicate, each representing existence, function and state.

(1)Someone/Something -ga somewhere-ni ari-masu.
(2)Someone/Something -ga somehow-shi masu.
(3)Someone/Something -wa somehow-de ari-masu.

These are how you add axiliaries to the subject and the predicate.
Do you know the formulas?

kaho

(1)Someone/Something -ga somewhere-ni aru-de-aro-u.
(2)Someone/Something -wa somehow-shuru ni chigai-nai-de-aro-u.
(3)Someone/Something -wa somehow-de aru-ka-mo-shire-nu.

These are how some axiliaries are added?
Are these fascinating?

Someone/Something -ga somewhere-ni aru-no-de, someone/something -wa somehow-shuru koto-ga-dekiru.
Someone/Something -wa somehow-de aru-kere-do-mo, someone/something -wa somehow-shuru.

Thus, adding auxilliaries can directly lead to another clause, making the earlier clause the subbordinate clause.
Isn't this Japanese grammar wnderful?
It is also wonderous because it have been given me by Christ the Lord.

>>449
Hmmm. Well it's all interlinked right? I'd say writing/speaking on the fly
is the hardest for me (which is a problem since it's on my AP test in May...). I'm pretty good at memorizing vocabulary and grammar usage
so reading comprehension isn't too bad. I think this is pretty normal for a any foreign
language learner though.

>>454
This has been all created by Kazuyoshi Kataoka who is I.
You say writing/speaking is the hardest for you.
My formulas can be applied in all the listening, the speaking, the reading and the writing.
1.existence
2.function
3.state
4.auxiliaries
5.subbordinate clause
Jesus' law applies to anything under heaven.

Sukichi sensei is no doubt a nice person but sometimes I have no fucking clue what
he's talking about.

I am talking about what lies deep around the root of things.

Yes, it's too deep for me and I like it that way.

jook, look at sparky's board again if you're having trouble posting.

>>457
>494 ：片岡数吉 ◆q1XDCabc/2 ：2009/01/06(火) 21:36:20
>All too often, international arms companies, [ with the assistance of their governments ], are ready and willing
>[ to provide a wide range of weapons systems,
>[ often directed at the harsh control of dissident movements, [ with small arms [ killing tens of thousands of civilians each year ] ] ].

>また、国際軍事企業［自分たちの政府の援助を受けた］は、
>毎年何万人もの市民を殺す小規模武器をもって反対勢力を激しく制圧することにしばしば向けられる
>ひろい範囲の攻撃システムを配備する準備をやる気満々である。

What an atrocious translation!

Mr. Kataoka seems to be unable to grasp the meaning
and grammatical function of 'with' in this context.

There is no point of enclosing syntactical units with brackets
if it does not help you understand the meaning of a sentence.

Man, アメリカ人、米人、have to do proxy server hopping to be able to
post here. I hope you guys can have proxy servers available all the
time just in case you are blocked again and again.

jook has the same trouble now. Hope he'll find アメリカ人's post
on Sparky's board.

Umm, how severe these random attacks from the 2ch's administrator are..
These campaigns are somewhat brutal, yes.

Are there native-speakers here ? or can post now??
I have a question about an American culture.
My question is ”Do Americans really hug each other regardless of the person's gender ?”
I heard somewhere that hugging with someone is commonly accepted in America, and many people also have heard that, I guess.

They say, "there's no such a thing as a stupid question." But this seems to be a rare case.... You're simply asking someting even trained anthropologists hesitage to answer. The best answer you can get is, probably, it depends.

What the hell are you babbling about?

>>461
Man, アメリカ人、米人、have
[ to do [ proxy server hopping ]
[ to be able [ to post here ] ].
I hope [ you guys can have proxy servers
[ available all the time ]
[ just in case you are blocked again and again ].

jook has the same trouble now.
Hope he'll find アメリカ人's post on Sparky's board.

>>465
>What the hell are you babbling about?
About your stupidity. Got it?

There's no such thing as my stupidity; it's just your anability in the ass.

what is an anability?

The [ alleged ], but now generally [ discounted ],
pre-war link [ between Saddam Hussein’s Iraq and al-Qaida ]
has become a self-[ fulfilling ] prophecy,
in [ that [ treating Iraq as part of the ‘war on terror’]
has only spawned new terror in the region and created a combat [ training ] zone for paramilitaries and jihadists.
People across the world now overwhelmingly believe
[ that the Iraq war has increased the likelihood of terrorist attacks worldwide.
[ If extended to Iran ], the implications of intervention would be disastrous.
It was hoped by the planners in Washington and London
[ that the removal of Saddam Hussein and the [ spreading [ of democracy to Iraq ] ] would eventually vindicate their policy of pre-emption ].
However, it has become clear
that ‘democracy’ in this instance actually means the privatisation of state-run industries, plus elections.
The US policy of detention without trial of “unlawful combatants” in Guantanamo Bay;
the [ widespread ] and deliberate [ bombing ] of civilian infrastructure in Afghanistan and Iraq;
the abuse and torture of prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison;
and the destruction of Fallujah, the “city of mosques”,
are just four more of the injustices of the ‘war on terror’ –
injustices widely reported across the Muslim world,
further adding to the sense of oppression and marginalisation(Islamic militants
**
Native speakers, is my bracketing beautiful?

The US policy of detention without trial of “unlawful combatants” in Guantanamo Bay;
the [ widespread ] and deliberate [ bombing ] of civilian infrastructure in Afghanistan and Iraq;
the abuse and torture of prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison;
and the destruction of Fallujah, the “city of mosques”,
are just four more of the injustices of the ‘war on terror’ –
injustices widely reported across the Muslim world,
further adding to the sense of oppression and marginalisation(Islamic militants
**
Native speakers, is my bracketing beautiful?

>>469
a remarkably gifted pain.

>>467
Maybe, you think >>465 and >>463 is the same person, but it'snot true.
Now, I'm a little bit disgusted though lol

>>473
You are not excused.

>>474
Why I have to beg excuse ?

robotinsendai

Yesterday I found a thread which title was "英語で話すスレ" at VIP board.
So I tried to talk with the residents there, but in spite of English thread, they accused me of using Enlish better than them, rather than they tried to use it.

>>447
Please keep in mind that in general vippers are too young to speak English fluently.
There is even a theory that majority of them is a elementary school student.
Note: never trust what I wrote.

>>463
Hugging people of either gender because they're your friends is only common
among teenage girls and very young children.
My 14 year old son went to a town event before Christmas, and was quite
surprised when some girls from his class (not close friends) walked up to him and hugged him
out of the blue. I told him not to read too much into it, since they were probably only
friendly hugs.
Women who are 20+ usually only hug really close friends or family that they haven't seen
in a long time, and most men of any age don't show affection in public like that.
At least this is how is in the Northeast. But we have the reputation of being
cold and unfriendly. In other parts of the country, it might be different.

>>478
Thanks for returning an opinion.
Few VIPPER could make even an easy sentence, such as SVOC. Almost all of them like nasty, ugly words and want to use positively them.
As you say, I also think their mental standards are really like those of elementary school students.
I realized it was no use talking with them about sincere topics and tried to do so in vain.
It was foolish for me to visit such thread as made me feel so unpleasant.
Then I was firmly determined to stay away from that.

Some of the Japanese in this thread can write almost perfectly in English.

I just want to say I am proud of you.

>>481
Maybe it's not about me, but thank you anyway.

no doubt a nice person
give me a break.

My 14 year old son went to a town event before Christmas, and was quite
surprised when some girls from his class (not close friends) walked up to him and hugged him
out of the blue. I told him not to read too much into it, since they were probably only
friendly hugs.
-----------------
LOL it shows how indiscriminate hugs to all genders with all ages
is ridiculous.

British are less hagging that Americans?
How about Germans?
I heard German Americans are the biggest population in White Americans.
But German is not associated with freindly hug as long as my image of
German goes.

To be more precise the number of immigrators from German seem to be
the biggest.

Oh, shit immi grant.

>>485
Germans aren't defined by the country they are from.
You are just as likely to meet a friendly German, as you are a cold German.
But there's no doubt that many people have an idea in their head that Germans are very rigid and calculating.
Don't buy into that.

>>479
In my high school, girls hug each other all the time. Passing acquaintances, friends, even teachers...
And then they turn around and talk gossip about them five minutes later, lol.

>>488
Hahahaha. Who said How Germans are.?

But

Germans aren't defined by the country they are from.
You are just as likely to meet a friendly German, as you are a cold German.
But there's no doubt that many people have an idea in their head that Germans are very rigid and calculating.
---
That's nearly what I have the image of.

However I think your comments are beside the point a bit.
I am saying how hugging culture in Germany is.
I just thought the mass of people from an distinctive area might effect
the cultural custom of where they immigrated.

So how big is hugging in Germany?

>>489
does somebody anticipate sexual pleasure hidden in their minds?

Speak from your own experience if you like.

>>490
You're right, I jumped to conclusions. Sorry about that, I thought you were saying that Germans tend to be less friendly in general.
My mistake.
I'm not sure how prevalent hugging is in Germany, but I have a German friend who is fairly affectionate. I have seen her hugging others.
But that is just one example.

It could be a misconception that North Americans are the most hug loving
people.
There is no ground. Just an image.
Italians seem to love hugging. I don't have statistic date though.

In general is it can be said (North) Americans do more hugs than
average Enropeans?

can it be said.
It's difficult to improvise English.

>>491
What do you mean? Are you asking if hugging is seen as an act of sexuality?

If that's your question, than yes, in certain cases. My girlfriend would hug me often before we ever actually "got together", and I did see it as a sexual thing.
It all depends on the context and assumptions, though. Random hugging (and sometimes even kissing) have become so common that it's hard to tell.
For example, a male teacher hugging a female student is almost exceptable now, because it is nearly meaningless.

>>493
From what I know, hugging is a much more integral part of Italian culture than it is North American culture.
Personally, I am taken aback if people I don't know well hug me, and even if I do know them I am apprehensive. And I think that feeling is still fairly widespread.
My Italian friends tell me stories about how their Italian relatives kiss them and hug them, so I THINK it's more common, at least in Italy.

Are you asking if hugging is seen as an act of sexuality?

NoNo. Do hugging for frienship and affection on the surface,
but inside sexual aim in one's mind

My girlfriend would hug me often before we ever actually "got together", and I did see it as a sexual thing.

Are you violating the law? You have to marry her if you cross the cartain limit.
Take your responsibility.
And beware of a sturdy korean who is gonna take her away!

For example, a male teacher hugging a female student is almost exceptable now, because it is nearly meaningless

Really? he will be regarded as pervert in Japan!
If hugged one is like page three girls, teacher can do hugs without
a secret intention?

>>497
"Do hugging for frienship and affection on the surface, but inside sexual aim in one's mind"

I can't really say, but I'm sure there are quite a few people who are like that. Many people act one way on the outside, but on the inside are thinking of nothing but sex.
Of course, this isn't anything new.

Lol, yes, I will marry her before going any further, of course. I will be a happily married 17 year old. I plan to have twelve children.
And I will keep an eye out for the sturdy Korean man.

be as religous and faithful as Jessicca Alba.

I just presumed your girlfriend is white.
If it's not the case, you can take off your guard.
Koreans seem to be quite popular among white girls in the north american and
Koreans love white girls.

>>498
Most times the female students will enter the classroom and request a hug. And it isn't enitirely non-taboo, if parents and school faculty find out the teacher is usually scolded or watched closely.
But I'm only talking from my own experience, and from what I have seen myself. I personally thought nothing of it - a quick hug at the request of the female student.
Thinking back on it, though, I find myself questioning the teacher's intentions...

be off guard? English is not easy!

>>500
"Koreans seem to be quite popular among white girls..."
I honestly have never heard of this, or seen any evidence of it... All of my male Korean friends are either single or have girlfriends of Asian descent.
But I dunno, that could just be in my area.

but I'm sure there are quite a few people who are like that. Many people act one way on the outside, but on the inside are thinking of nothing but sex.
--
Human are human. glad to hear.
Do you have any personal experience that you felt lucky to be
hugged by a wonderful girl?

>>503
Are you living in white area?
I heard Canada is not as segregated as America though.
I eavesdropped the conversation in McDonald..
A white Canadian teacher explaind in that way.
He said he was shocked to see the condition of America
when he visited America.

>>504
Well, that's kind of personal, isn't it? Haha.
But I'll answer it with this... "Haven't we all?"

>>503
Koreans here taught me.
You must be living in a rural town where new trends hardly
arrive.

>>505
I have only been to America twice, so I can't really say for certain.
But Canada is know for it's multiculturalism, and is very accepting of many cultures.

I do live in a white area, but there are actually a lot of Muslims moving in around here, as well as Filipinos.
Which I think is great. Have to expand my world, after all.

>>507
Well now I know you're just screwing with me, lol.

White girls in the north america can receive free hugs from
mesmerising korean guys.
Immigration from Europe will arise....
Mesmersing was the phrase he liked and I learned from him.
日本語だと　くらくらする

>>510
Your Korean friend is quite the storyteller.
And what is that you typed in Japanese? Something about nausea? I'm probably wrong.

>>509
He seems to be off these days. But there existed the korean
poster who inhabited this thread.
He must be busy in Christmas and New year season.

>>511
くらくらする can be used in that way.
But if you are an attractive, handsome man, you are くらくら
させる。

>>513
Thank you for the explanation.

I have to go for a while, guys. It's been a very interesting conversation.

>>463
Man, I wish I saved an early post where I talked about this.
Within my circle of friends, it's not uncommon to see hugging between guys
or girls. It's really no big deal. Obviously we don't sit there holding each other for
hours, but it's more like a bear hug. As 加奈陀人 said, hugging can be flirtatious if
the people hugging haven't known each other for long.

When we had Japanese exchange students come to our school I think they were surprised by it.
Also, when we went to Japan they sometimes thought we were doing a lot of flirting by hugging.
If I hugged a girl who's a good friend they asked, "Oh do you like [name]?" and if I hugged
a guy they asked, "Are you gay?" It was pretty funny for the Americans though.

Korean mother fucker is stinky beause eating a dog.

Wow, thank you for all your responses.
According to your all posts, hugging appears to be widely accepted in not only the U.S but also Canada and Italy.

Well, I think that for shy people the hugging culture would be a quite tough convention.
If I WERE hugged in front of a lot of classmates, my face would blush immediately.

>>515
Oh, this topics were talked about before?
It's when you guys discussed stereotypes ?

what all this talk about hugging being common in the USA?
yes there is such a thing as a friendly hug, but don't get the image that we run around hugging each other.
Personal space in this nation is about one arms length away from a person.
it is best not to violate this.
it also seems that females can hug other females that they know and are friendly with, but when males hug other males it's seen as gay.

Hey アメリカ人, what was the name of a Canadian indie band you or keira mentioned before?
It that Metric? I can't find the log since this thread moves pretty fast.

>>518
haha, then, tight hug won't be permmitted even in the U.S. in short.

>>501
Teachers are smiling while their penises are erecting.

Maybe as 米人 said, there are some regional differences in attitudes towards hugging, as well.
The US is a huge country after all.

>>518
Chiacago must be full of gays and segregationists.

米人 is from connecticut. She is not a native of Boston.
So maybe entire northwest has the same tendency.

>>519
Well, I like Metric and they are from Canada, but I never mentioned them here lol.
Are you thinking of "Of Montreal"? I was talking about how I went to an Of Montreal concert
and keira mentioned she liked them as well. She also recommended Los Campesinos! to me.
Fun fact though, Of Montreal is actually from Athens, Georgia.

in chicago gangster is everywhere with arm.
in town full of gangster.

"I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. Gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it..."

Best movie quote, hands down.

>>525
Ah ok. lol "M" was correct, at least.
I was looking for some indie/electro/rock type of stuff so I'll check them out, thanks.

>>526
I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say, but in either case Al Capone is going to
shred you to pieces with his Tommy gun.
>>528
Definitely check out CSS as well. Are you Japanese?

>>525
Metric is a great band. Their songs have some really great beats, although I haven't heard any of their stuff in quite a while...

Also, any idea why a band from Athens would name their band "Of Montreal"?

>>495
"For example, a male teacher hugging a female student is almost exceptable [acceptable] now, because it is nearly meaningless."
!!!
Totally, totally unacceptable!

>>524
Northeast--Connecticut borders Massachusetts. There isn't much difference between them,
except Massachusetts is more liberal and has better schools.

All you people interested in hugs & hugging--have you heard of the free hugs movement?
It was started by an Australian calling himself Juan Mann in Sydney.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4
It's since spread to several major cities around the world,
including this one that you might recognize:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBNU5H6CoCE
OMG...it's here too?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdSWEwMpZSk

>>531
I am only explaining what it is that I have seen as a high school student. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with it, but so far nobody has made a fuss.

And... thank you for the correction.

>>530
Apparently the lead singer named the band "Of Montreal" after his relationship with a girlfriend
from Montreal went south. The story changes slightly every time someone asks him about it though...

>>533
Interesting, thank you.

I've been working on an art history assignment for the last three or four hours.
This is driving me insane... I can literally smell my laptop melting...

>>531
Well, I happened to see that sort of activity once in a public area.

That seemed to be conducted by a white woman and a brown man,
and they holded a placard, which 'FREE HUG' was written on.

>>532
You are living in a heaven for male teachers.

>>532
That's pretty incredible. It wouldn't be tolerated here, mostly
because the schools are afraid of sexual harassment lawsuits from parents.
Do you go to a public school?

>>534

Are you an art major or is that just filling a general education requirement?

Just to give my two cents on the topic, hugging was common throughout high school.
Girls I barely knew would hug me for no particular reason. Nobody would bat an eye.

I hardly ever see that kind of behavior in my university, however. I suppose people
think they should start acting more mature and adult once they make the transition into
a university.

>>535
Did you hug either one of them?
I myself would have avoided them, but then I don't like
touching strangers.

>>536
I seem to have given the impression that male teachers are running around hugging female students and then inviting them to dinner.
I have seen it two or three times, and there was no hanky-panky involved.
My school is not a brothel, I swear. The principal is not a pimp, and my English teacher is not a prostitute named "Sugar Baby".

I bodytouched her while hugging her!　
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/office/momiji/machiko/machiko1.JPG

>>537
Don't get me wrong, all kidding aside, most male teachers wouldn't hug a female student.
But some do. It's never really been an issue at my school, although I doubt the higher-ups are aware of it.

I go to a Catholic school, surprisingly.

Anyway, I'm not condoning this sort of behaviour...

>>539
In the bottom of mind, I was eager to hug the lady, but I'm coward, so I couldn't.

Putting aside my kidding, I think Free Hug Movement doesn't suit Japanese culture.
In fact, as far as I saw there, only a few people gathered aroung the two man and woman,
and most of them were women.

>>538
But Girls you said are white girls, I assume.

>>538
I chose the course on my own, but I had already fulfilled the requirements for art.
I had actually planned on becoming an artist, as I (think) I have a knack for it.
But I have instead chosen to go into Media Studies, Journalism or English.

>>542
You said you were not Christian.
But Christian value must be instilled into your body
unconciously because you are brought up in that culutre since
your birth.

>>546
Of course. I have rejected it as much as I can, but there is a part of me that will always be Catholic. And that's fine; as I age perhaps I'll find myself drawn back to Catholicism, if only for comfort in death.

Pascal's Wager (simplified): you might as well believe in God, because if you believe
and there is no God, then no harm done;
but if you choose not to believe in God, and there actually is a God,
well, now you're in trouble.

This has actually been used as an argument for believing in God, but
isn't it a little too much based on self interest?

>>548
I'm very impressed...

I think that idea is practical so as to educate people.
If a potential criminal hear it, he may resist his temptation.

>>548

It isn't easy for some people to indoctrinate themselves into believing in
God if they have already rationalized that God cannot exist.

But Christian values aren't so bad, I think. Avoiding the cardinal sins
and following the virtues drive one's life in a better direction even if
they aren't religious.

The atheist's response, of course, is "Which God do you pick?
There's a lot of them out there...what if you pick the wrong one?"
There is a point in that, I suppose.
In which case, just declare yourself a Unitarian and be done with it.

If there exists God, I can assert that he or she is not a man like
a jew born about 2000 years ago.

Hasn't this religion talk gone on for a day or more now?
Are we getting anywhere?

I'm in bed, btw.

>>553
I can understand where you are coming from. I myself am not comfortable
with the idea of claiming a monopoly on Truth.
For me personally, Jesus's words in the New Testament are very meaningful
and I can believe that they are divinely inspired. But I was raised in
the Christian church, so they are familiar and comforting. If I had been
born in a different part of the world, I can't say that I would feel the same.

>>554
Sorry, I wasn't here yesterday, so I wouldn't know.
I'm not trying to recruit anyone though.
Believe or not, your choice.

>>555
That's where I should be. 'Night all!

>>556
I don't know if he was noble man or not.
Even so, I just wanted to say Jesus was a human.

God possessed a jew in Israel and made him talk the truth?
Under this theory we could say Jesus is God..

I dont think God made him talk though.

Do Christians believe the resurrecrion of Jesus like
米人 ressurected on this board?
From this point Jesus is not a human.
Then again God imbued life into a dead body and,,,
He was killed by roman army. That's it.

Who killed Jesus and how?

>>548
The whole idea of believing in God just in case he DOES exist is pretty selfish, I agree.
But as much as I'd like to say that I will never fall into that category, I can't, because in the end death frightens me, as it does many others.
It isn't the pain of death, but what happens after the fact. Before I became an atheist I had something to look forward to, a reward at the end of the maze,
but now I am faced with two options after I die:
If I'm right, I will vanish into nothingness. If I'm wrong, I will spend eternity in a horrible reality.

Plus, I'm just an idiot teenager. My world view could shift entirely in a single month.

Do Christians really believe God is like human-being
with four limbs and face?
Do you imagine Jesus Christ whey you imagine God?

Jesus looked like Sdam Hussein http://papundits.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/saddam_hussein.jpg
rather than him http://tallskinnykiwi.typepad.com/tallskinnykiwi/jesus-1.gif
as far as lookings go.


Imagin Sadam Hussein in the night sky. He is watching us.

>>563
That was funny and creepy at the same time.

http://www.jesusposter.net/Blue%20Jesus%20picture.jpg
Did Vikings invade middle east just like they
invaded America?
I've heard of Vinlander.

If God is nice enough, he will save us regardless of faith,
and if not, he's a jerk and I'd rather vanish into nothingness.

ＤＯ　Ｉ　Ｄｏ　Ｉ　Ｄｏ　Ｉ　Ｄｏ　Ｉ　Ｄｏ　Ｉ　Ｄｏ　ｍｙ　ｌｏｖｅ　ｔｏ　ｙｏｕ！
Ｄｏ　Ｉ　Ｄｏ，　Ｄｏ　Ｉ　Ｄｏ！！

Invaded was a strong word. Vikings Landed on America
and setteld for a while. They prerished for some reason.

Wow vinland was in Canada, not in America. I didn't know.

Could you possibly tell me what exactly "Love me do" means.
And please tell me what grammar item is applied to the phrase.
I don't think "love" isn't a verb used like "make" or "get".
- Make someone do something
- Get someone to do something
Do you think "love someone do something" is a generally used phrase?

Do love me.
多分。

is anybody here?

no

>566
What is life?
Life is growing and weaking, isn't it?

>>566
Hell is your eternal home. Go there with >>574!

E.T homo phone

Before start discussing whether or not should we believe in god (I know, it's already too late), can someone define what god is first?

God is Slim Shady and Slim Shady is in all of us.

Real Gachimuchi Shady?
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=KHumCK_3uEw

...........................
there is a part 127 ready for use

http://4chan.b33r.net/sparky4/+4/4/yotsuba.php?res=289

UPDATE

>>577
Before start discussing whether or not should we believe in god (I know, it's already too late), can someone define what god is first?
↓
Correct
・Can anyone define what got is to be, before starting to discuss whether we shoud believe in god or not?(I know, it's already too late.)

I think god is nothing but a mere notion.

It's 5℃ out now, but with the windchill, it feels below freezing.
It's smells like it's going to snow tomorrow.

You can smell and judge if it snows or not?

You sound like a dog or something.

I used to be a Christian, technically.

I'm an atheist now, though. I never could take the stories in the Bible as seriously as the people around me.
And I never enjoyed the long periods of singing and praising God that occurred at church.
Whenever that happened, I'd wait until no one was looking at me, then quietly sit down.
I'd quickly become bored, and be forced to read the only book I had with me--the Bible.
It was actually an annotated version, so I ended up reading the annotations, too.

This was actually part of what brought me to atheism.
There are a lot of nice events, ideas, and attitudes in the Bible.
However, there are a lot of terrible ones, too...

>>559

Incidentally, does "possess" not have the same connotation in Japanese?

When people in English-speaking countries say "possess", they're usually
thinking of something along the lines of The Exorcist.

By the way, most Christians believe in the concept of the Trinity--
That is, that God exists as three "persons" (God the Father, God the Son,
and God the Holy Spirit), but is one being.

To be honest, I don't fully understand it myself.

>>587
some english-japanese dictionary say that should be "haunt" as an intransitive.

I have to admit that I was surprised to know that quite a lot of people from English speaking
countries here call themselves atheist.

I didn't think it's easy to become an athiest in countries of Christianity
such as the US. It's just that the moment you declare you are an athiest,
you can become atheist? Simple as that?

You had your excess skin of your penis cut when you were born right?
That's because you or at least your parents are Christians, right?
If you claim you are an athiest, you won't have a doctor cut
the skin of your baby boy's penis?

I know this question is rediculous.

>>586
You can despise Christianity as much as you want because it's been a lie for nearly 2,000 years.
But how can you deny a gospel of Jesus Christ?
You can be a Christian without attedning any Chruch.
I wish to hear more about your story on switching from "Christianity" to "Atheism" if you don't mind of course.

I was gay.

>>589
You're talking about circumcision, right?
I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that in the USA, most male infants are circumcised regardless of religion.
In other words, it isn't really a religious issue.

Today, most Christian denominations are neutral concerning circumcision.
Judaism calls for it, though.

Is this CNET TV thing is exclusively online?
http://cnettv.cnet.com/

Or do they stream online the same show as the ones broadcast on cable TV
or something?

>>590
There isn't much to say.
I'm just not the kind of person who's blindly obedient.
because of this, I asked a lot of questions...

Also, I realized that the only reason I believed (as little as I did)
in Christianity was because I had encountered it first.
Had I been born elsewhere, or to some other parents, I might have been
raised as the devout follower of some other religion.
I wondered: what was it that made Christianity so much more valid than
other religions?
There's nothing, right?

Also, I'm the sort of person who requires evidence.
I'm too grounded in the rational to believe in any religion, I think.

Lastly, the God of the old testament was sort of a dick.
He did all sorts of rotten things...
Even if that God was real, I don't think I could follow him.

>>592
Yes, I was talking about circumcision.
So, it has nothing to do with religion. I didn't know that.

When do you have your penis circumsise?
Right after you are born or later?

A man is a weak being.
He grows old, becomes weak, becomes unable and die.
Living is not always fun. Sometimes it's hard, other times it's too hard to keep living.
So a man seeks salvation.
He seeks great power that rules the world.
He seeks God.
He will be happy if he finds truly powerful thing.
He will be miserable if he finds pretentiously powerful thing.
Seek, then he doesn't fail to find it.
What Jesus told people us true wether you say God is or God is not.

What Jesus told people is true wether you say God is or God is not.

Why does the penis need its skin cut off?
Japanese baby boys don't have the skin cut off.
You can peel the skin off the penis head and make it used to be peeled off.

>>585
You have got to be kidding me!
I am surprised to know you have no idea that there is a well-known expression such as "smell like."
When judging by smell what happens in the future, we use "smell like."
If you catch good smell of a curry from the kitchen, you surely expect you wii be able to have a curry.
It also holds true for the weather forecast. Or have you never smelt of rain?

>>595
Right after birth.

Today circumcision seems not to be popular in the US
because hygiene merits turned out to be a myth.
I'm not sure of my memory though.

>>589
カナダ人 calls himself athiest. But he has an enrollment in
Catholic church and his parenents are devoted Catholic and he goes to
Catholic school.
Even if he callse himself athiest, he has been surrouded by christian
thigns all his life.

>>602
To me, that makes him especially qualified to fight for atheism.
Who better to debate with a Christian than a former Christian--someone who also has knowledge of Christianity and the Bible?

Unless there has been a dramatic change in the past few years,
circumcision rates should be somewhere around 60%.

Who better to debate with a Christian than a former Christian--someone who also has knowledge of Christianity and the Bible?

What does it mean? who better to ?

>>589

My sister is very religious and so is my brother, but I am not. In fact, my
probably my entire family genuinely believes in God. I don't recall
ever believing that God exists, even when I was a very young boy. My grandparents
used to read to me stories from the Bible (when I was around 4-5) and I would think
to myself that they all sound like some kind of ridiculous, made-up fairy tale.

>>606
Does that mean you can laugh it away when someone approches you and tells you that Hell is your eternal home?

>>594
I could have written this post, but substitute Christianity with Judaism.
Enough religion talk though.

So I have this stereotype in my mind about Japan and this article reminded me of it:
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20090107f2.html
My idea of the Japanese workforce is that men dominate every level, with women mostly being
secretaries or similar positions. And then of course once they marry they become housewives.
Sorry if this sounds ignorant, but I'm very curious about women in the Japanese workforce.

>>608
Actually, what you've just posted doesn't sound ignorant at all.
When it comes to an issue of women wokring in Japan, glass shields against them are everywhere.
Things are changing from the bottom. I mean from working class people. Their wages are getting smaller and smaller.
Thus both the husband and wife have to work just to feed themselves.

I heard that when Japanese people are Christened they get a
Christian name. What about you people in Christian countries?
When you were born, you recieved a Christian name?

If so, that can be a sign to tell if you're Chrstian or an atheist.
Even if you declare you're an athiest, you are Christian as long as
you have a Christian name.

>>600
I see.

Many japanese women's first aim is to real on men's budget.
Some get treated as much as they are worth. And that's not bad thing.

Lack of their motivation is one issue. They are choosing their own way.
And exaggeration is another issue.

I know a certain publishing company like benesse corporation is equally?
dominated by women.
Benesse is a big company which usually is on the top ten lists among
university students.

http://job.nikkei.co.jp/2009/corp/faq.aspx?E_CD=10395#q8
Q8女性社員が目立ちますが、男性社員も活躍しているのでしょうか？
A8 社員の約６割が女性ですので、確かに女性社員の数の方が多いです。
しかし、男女の区別なく仕事をする環境ですので、当社ホームページでも
紹介しているように、男性社員も数多く活躍しています。

Q8 Female employee's perfomance is prominant. Aren't there male employees
who are active?
A8 A sixth of employees is women so it's true the number of women
outnumers that of men's.
However this is the enviroment where we can work regardless of genders,
there are many male employees who are active as our home page shows.
-----------------
I'm not confident about my translation. But it should bring core
meanings.
I heard mens felt small in the corporation..

In general men are always swayed by women all the place all the time.
We make an effort to answer their expectations not to be disliked by them.
In japan men's are considered to be just the machine to bring
money. Housewives would go to karaoke and lessons in husband's abscence.
Decades ago there was a buzz words that "husbands are good when they are both healthy
and not at home". It doesnot imply abuse at home and as such. Houswives
declare "bring money but I don't want to do housewive job for you!
I don't wanna see your old face. I would rather see kimura takuya or
someon on TV"
It doesn't entirely explain japanese situaiton.
But that's also true.

A sixth of employees
NoNO.
Six tenths of employees is women.
More simpley 60%.

>>608
You're right.
I read somewhere about statsitcs on percentage of women who are in
manegerial postion in companies and the percentage of female politicians
worldwide. I don't remeber precise figures but Japan isn't ranked high, meaning
not many women are in such positions in a company or are politicians.

There is a term "glass ceiling" in English as used in the article, but
America has a larger number of female managers or politicians than Japan
according to the statistics I vaguely remember. You went as far as nearly
to elect female president.

Things have changed slowly in Japan. Some companies try to promote more female
worker to important positons not because of the gender equality perspective
but because they know that works in favor of their benefits. To survive
severe competition in business, you can't ignore female perspective in
products development, marketing, customer satisfaction and the stuff.

>And then of course once they marry they become housewives.
This trend has been changing, too. More and more Japanese women think
they want to get involved in society by working so more and more people
go back to workforce after their kids need less care. In a big company
they have a program ready for female workers to come back after
maternity leave. Even women who don't work for a big company try to
start doing part-time job because they want to get involved with society
by working. Adding her small income to her husband income and total
househould income's increase is a bonus.

If their husbands income isn't sufficient, they have no options but
to go back to work again after their kids need less care.

I don't think I welcome such women in the article with open arms. I'm amazed by their acheivement
but I have to admit I kind of am jealous of them because their salary
is hefty as a pilot. I felt disgusting to be honset. Women in cockpit?
Give me a break. It's like, what you have to hold isn't the control stick,
but my cock! And rub it hard and fast! Wash my dirty underwear and
cook nice meals.

>>605
"Who better to" is the same as "who would be better to".

>>610
Do you mean that those people get new names when they convert to Christianity?
I've never heard of such a ritual before.
Really, do names have that much power?
Sure, someone might name a child after a Christian figure, but that's the parent's choice.

There are probably plenty of Christians with names that aren't of Biblical origin.
There are probably plenty of Atheists with names of Biblical origin.

Perhaps this is a misunderstanding.
Strictly speaking, the term "Christian name" refers to a name formally given to a child at its baptism, or "christening".
However, sometimes the term "Christian name" is used as a synonym for "given name", without regard for religion.
It's not a common term, though.

When talking to people, I just say I'm protestant to avoid any drama. Officially,
I am Christian.

However, I don't really believe any of it.

I've never seen someone with christian name.

There are japanese names such as まりあ maria 真理亜 to Maria.
I dont know the origin. まりあ might come from Maria.

Wow I remember the one, 戸田アレクシ哲 toda Alexi tetsu.
He is half Japanese in blood line thogh.

>>616
>Do you mean that those people get new names when they convert to Christianity?
Yeah. It's just a name you get when you convert to Christianity.
It's not that your Japanese name is abondoned after becoming a Christian.
Maybe it's just serves as a proof that you sure changed to Christianity.

>>618
I think アレクシ is just a middle name.

I was thinking today... is it very easy to make song lyrics in Japanese?
I was thinking that rhyming would be a cinch since there isn't much variation
in the endings of words.

>>620
While ryming in songs written in English was common even before
Rap emerged, in case of Japanese songs, there were no such things
as ryming in Japanese songs' lyrics.

It was not until rap music was imported to Japan and Japanese rap musicians
emerged that ryming in lyrics appeared.

>>616
I have a friend at a university over there, and she introduced me to
one of her friends, who is a Christian (and Japanese). She doesn't go
by her given name anymore, instead choosing to be called 'Anna', after
Saint Anna.

I guess she was ohura anna.

>>609, >>611-615
Thanks for the replies, that's really interesting that the stereotype is actually becoming less applicable.
What about women in fields that require advanced degrees, i.e. scientists, doctors, lawyers, professors, etc.?

Female doctor's ratio is 15.6% from this article.
http://kasamatsu.sakura.ne.jp/ask/200703.html
I read on another site that women who passed
the medical exam has been over 30% for consecutive years.

http://209.85.175.132/search?q=cache:N1KMlHDgoQcJ:news19.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1157436106/+%E5%A4%A7%E5%AD%A6%E6%95%99%E6%8E%88%E3%80%80%E5%A5%B3%E6%80%A7%E3%80%80%E5%89%B2%E5%90%88&hl=ja&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=jp
Female professor on average : 10.5%
Female professor in state-run universities: 6.6%
Female professor in university of tokyo : 3.8%

The date is September 2006.

I don't know whetehr compulsory equality is good or not.
Those who promote these things are usually single and don't have
children.

And not beautiful in most cases. lol

>>624
When it comes to job openings in Japanese universities and colleges, as far as I know,
their first choice of successful candidates is single male applicants,
the second is married male applicants, the third is married female applicants, and believe or not,
their last choice is single female applicants. Things work quite differently on the other side of the Pacific.

>>620
English and Japanese are different in terms of isochrony. Your mother tongue is a stress-timed language, and mine is mora-timed.
Also, because of this difference and phonetic dissimilarity,
Japanese encodes semantic information into sounds in a strikingly different way from European languages.

It is virtually impossible to explain what's going on if you only speak one language,
but if you encode meanings into notes in a song the same way as you do in English,
then you give very little information to a song.

I know this doesn't make sense to you; it's like teaching people living in a desert the difference between the crawl and the breaststroke.
But the point is that we use time and sounds in a different way to convey meanings, and
this makes it entirely different to write and sing a song.

You'll be surprised when you compare Japanese versions of famous English songs.
Semantically very little can be encoded in such songs in Japanese
because the style forces translators to use a skewed poem writing method that only works in different isochrony and phonology.

Believe it or not?
I don't believe.
Any source?
First of all, women who chose science course are limited and
few. They are only 15% of entire departments.

There is no discrimination in college entrance examination.
Women prefers to choose literature, English and Art and stuff like that.
As for English professors, femal professors seems to be around
30% from my experience and hunch.

>>630
>hunch

Whenever I read this word, I hear it in Crispin Freeman's voice.
Some words are too strongly associated with certain voices so the voice in my head suddenly changes into the corresponding ones.
Now I'm writing this hearing his cool voice!

>>618
>Wow I remember the one, 戸田アレクシ哲 toda Alexi tetsu.

This reminds me of the days when I was preparing for the entrance exam.
He was always on the top 3 list at every trial exam and everyone my age who wanted to go to a prestigious university knew him lol.

I didn't think アレクシ was his real name when I saw his name for the first time.

Well, I failed and Tokyo University rejected me by the way...

Everyone please be nice to me. I'm having a tough day.
Today I went to my first aerobics class in ten years.
The name of the class was "Basic Training", and so I assumed that
it was a beginner's class. But when I got there, I found out that
what it really meant was "Aerobics Boot Camp". Lots of jumping
on and off a step, high leg kicks and really uncomfortable
stretching with weights.
Man, am I out of shape.

Then tonight I came home from a meeting and my husband informed me
that our dishwasher died. Not at the end of the cycle, but right at
the beginning. So now I have to wash and dry all of today's dishes.
It's a lot when you have to do it all at one time.
The worst is the silverware--there's so much of it.
Do you think I can get everyone to use disposable chopsticks until
we can get a new one? They sell huge boxes of them at the local Chinese
supermarket, real cheap.
I can't stand plastic cutlery, so that's not an option.
Ah well, back to the kitchen...[exit stage left]

I was baptized at my age of 38 at a Mennonite Christian church in Japan.
We don't get a naming by baptism.
You are you all your life.
Making yourself called with other names than yours will make you feel weird.

The aerobics class must have been affected by Biily's boot camp and turned itself into harder one.
Keep your tough exsercise or you may have a special nice body some day.

From the ecological point of view, disposable chopsticks aren't recommended with open mind.

In some cases disposable chopsticks, or wooden chopsticks made by chinese are bad for the health.
And their wooden chopsticks may be with bleach.
Even if wooden chopsticks made by chinese have reasonable price, I won't buy it.

Billy's boot and stretch is too hard work.
But it may get you lose weight rapidly.
But it will make you stressful and make you feel like eating to escape your stress.
Then all efforts go vainfully.

>>621
>>629

I see, thank you for your responses. That is really interesting, though,
that Japanese songs used to (and still do) convey emotion and meaning without
rhyming.

>>638
No diets don't need mental toughness.

Free at last!
No, I won't buy disposable anything then.
I've seen nice painted? laquered? chopsticks at the Japanese store up
in Cambridge. They come in sets of 4, each pair is a different color, maybe so each
person can have their own set? But they are a little expensive. And face it,
it's difficult to eat macaroni and cheese, or make a peanut butter sandwich with
chopsticks. I wonder how you would tackle lasagne, probably with a knife and fork.

Lord knows I need to lose weight.
I don't think it will be that rapid though. I have the metabolism of a
three toed sloth.
But it's probably more important for me just to get some exercise
for my mental and physical health. I'm one of those people who gets
the winter blues.

>>641
Every Japanese person has his/her own pair of chopsticks, and each family has at least
one knife and fork to eat western cuisine.
So, as you mentioned, we eat those western foods with a knife, fork and spoon just as western people do.

>>638
Oh, man, have you ever tried doing Billy's boot camp ?
>>642
So do I!
Then, sorry to ask this a little personal question, but could you tell me your height
if you don't mind ? (I never have any intention to ask your weight after this question)
This is just out of my curiousity since western women are tall in general.

I like those pretty Japanese chopsticks they sell at Tokai.
Maybe I will get a set after I pay for the new dishwasher,
whenever that will be.

>>644
5'6"
which is 165 cm, give or take
I'm about 1 inch taller than American female average height.
Don't bother asking my weight; I would just lie anyways.

>>646
haha, thanks indeed.
Well, your heights corresponds with the image about you.
With regard to the average height of U.S. women, it's a little smaller than I guessed.

Perhaps, general consensus about the definition of an adult will change in less than
a few years or so.
If children are supposed to become an adult at the age of 18, then the ritual for those twenty people
, which caled seijinn-shiki, will also change.
This can cause troubles because there is a two years interval and so some children cannot attend the ritual.
I just mutterd to myself.

The day after tomorrow, seijin-shiki is held.

>>632
Did the アレクシ pass Tokyo university?
What university did/do you go? You entered Waseda/Keio?

Hey!!!!!!!!!Foreigners!!!

I have a question to foreigners!!


http://www5.hokkaido-np.co.jp/movie/piyar_meta/2007121904_b.asx

Tell me how does he look like??

>>649
No way he failed. He was one of the smartest guys my age in Japan.
He went to the medical college of Tokyo University and now he's a medical doctor if I remember correctly.
Probably he's happy now, but I'm kind of sad he didn't choose math.
He liked math and was much better than me back then, but somehow he became a doctor
and I'm publishing papers on my theorems in academic journals now...

In retrospect, probably it doesn't matter how well you do when you're young as long as you're in like the 99.9th percentile.
Sadly enough, we, ordinary guys, are not going to win the Fields Medal or Nobel Prize anyway.

So, which university did I enter? Sorry, I'm not going to reveal myself too much.
You're on 2ch where you're supposed to be anonymous. I may be just bullshitting you.

>>651
You mean he passed 理III of Tokyo university...
I guess he didn't become a doctor who sees patients but but became a research doctor.

>>638
片岡数吉 needs to be taken down a peg or two.

>>652
>became a research doctor.

I don't know. He sure wasn't a kind of guy who'd make a nice medical doctor though.

>>653
>片岡数吉 needs to be taken down a peg or two.

Who's that fag anyway? I'm just ignoring his posts, but sometimes it's annoying to open this thread only to find his nonsense.

I didn't have the slightest idea who 戸田アレクシ哲 was, so I google it only to find out that
he's a pretty smart guy who used to wear pink socks to school. That was fairly enough for me.

>>654
Are you the man who are researching computer at university?

>>656
Like I said, you're on 2ch. I may be just bullshitting you.
If I wanted to be recognized, I wouldn't come to anonymous boards.

>>644
Billy's boot, I tried by myself watchin TV.
It was tough.

There seems to be someone who doesnt' understand difference between getting a job in college and becoming a student in college.
Read somebody's post twice before you say something.

Do most Americans trust Jesus' words?

Perhaps, no one really cares.

The post above is neither for Jesus, nor to offend Christians in the least.

Jesus' word helps.

Trust his words?? I guess Christians officially believe in him, but "trust his words"? What does it mean?

Sure

Americans, what helped you most today?

A dishwasher would help a lot of housewives, I think.

[ Trusting Jesus' word ] means [ you are not worried [ as you are going ahead [ based on his words ] ] ].

A dishwasher does help.

[ Trusting Jesus' word ] means
[ you are not worried [ as you are going ahead [ based on his words ] ]
[ even when you seem to be heading for dangers ] ].

Trolls, trolls, trolls, and trolls! Everybody be aware! Just ignore him....

>>657
He translated a book on geometry in to Japanese. Maybe you you can read
the book in English.

戸田アレクシ哲 and you're 29 years old and graduated from 東京学芸大附属高校.
You're DQN on 学芸大附属高校's standard.
He sure graduated from the medical school of Tokyo university and
worked as an intern doctor at 北見赤十字病院.

But he had never wanted to become a doctor even when he was working
at the hospital. He just wanted to get a certificate. He was frowned
by doctors who were in charge of taking care of him at the hosipital
when he said he isn't interested in becoming a doctor at all.

After working at the hospital for two years, he enrolled in graduate
school of economics, Tokyo university. He's involved in COE project now
as an assistant. Working as an assistant in the project means he is
at the bottom of the project's hierarchy.

He'll have lots of hurdles ahead of him because he studys economics
for the first time in the grad school. But Maybe he'll catch up with
his fellow students sooner or later. He probably has potential.
Or he'll end up becoming NEET if he can't find anywhere to work for
after graduation.

He doesn't seem to give up getting himself involved in math.
That must be a good news to you.

[ Trusting Jesus' word ] means
[ you are not worried [ as you are going ahead [ based on his words ] ]
[ [ even when you seem [ to be heading for dangers ] ]
[ because His word holds you upright ] ].

Is thee any error in my English here?

Is there any error in my English here?

>>674
kazu, what do you do?
I mean job.

I teach English at a senior high school on the corresspondence learning course.
I'm 59 years old.
I will quit this job this March leaving one year to the retirement age.
I go to Tokyo and teach there with senior highs a prep-school and NKH.

>>675
You don't use square brackets in English unless necessary.

I bracket to check if what I say consists structually correctly.

Kataoka sensei is an important character on 2ch. Don't leave us here alone!

>>657
戸田アレクシ哲 is a part-time doctor at Toranomon hospital but he seems to
be studying economics at Yale university now.

On the list of part-time doctors, there is a female doctor whose family
name is Toda, so she must be his wife.

He used to work as a doctor responsible for anesthetic at NTT-East Kanto hospital, too.

He's really wierd. While studying economics in Yale, He's a part-time
doctor.

>>680
Put out the penis and walk in Shibuya during one hour.
And, from it do the masturbation in front of the police box.

You people are so boring. I wish there were more nerds in this thread.

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=w9JMbel2CKs

That one was terrible.
So terrible that I had to close it and deleted the history right away.

>>683
Did you call me?

>>683
You are categorizing all kinds of nerds together, however, there is a need to distinguish them.
Are you extreme nerds, who are thinking nothing but about anime all the time ?
Or ordinary nerds, who don't go so far as to do so ?

>>686
I used to buy nerdy magazines every month at book stores.
Magazines with half naked anime characters and mechas on the cover.
But now, I'm just a weak third rate nerd.

>>685
Who?

英語がどうこうはともかく、IBMのリストラなんか退職金は出るし、
行くとこもいくらでもあるし、世間の派遣切りとはまるで別ものだけどなw

>>688 is a troll bombing a lot of threads with meaningless Japanese sentences. Just ignore him.

My pants are getting dirty and smelly with shit stain.
I wipe my ass well and make sure no shit is left on my ass, but pants still get shit stained.

>>681

He just went to department of medicine at University of
Tokyo just to prove his ability in examination.
Science Faculty 3? 理3 is the hardest department to enter
in Japan. Way harder than Harvard with regar to paper examinations.
Tokyo university won't see characteristics, suitablity, wealth, parent's
social status and anyting of applicants.

戸田 seems to be not among one of succesful applicants of
理３．
He was alerady famous for his math ability and deviation score
before passing tokyo uni. Passing tokyo uni was obvious for him and
everyone who knew him.

>>673
I'm not sure what the brackets are supposed to be, but here is how I
would phrase it:

Even if the journey is perilous, trusting Jesus' word means you are
not worried as you move ahead because his word holds you upright.

(Personally, I would phrase, "holds you upright" as "gives you strength,"
but both work here.)

I hope that helped? Sorry if I wasn't supposed to take out so many of your
brackets and totally rephrase the sentence. It just seemed really redundant
with the bracketed phrases.

>>691

Japan's educational standards seem like they are light years ahead of the
U.S.'s. In the U.S., Ivy League schools have traditionally been accessible
only to people with reputation and large amounts of wealth. Celebrities
sometimes buy their way into an Ivy League school and nearly every
President in the country's history went to one. However, now those
schools are requiring that a percentage of their students be
minorities or people from a lower to middle class (usually both) because
they are getting pressured by the government.

I got to say that is really cool if the highest rank schools in Japan
are not concerned with their applicants wealth or status and instead
how studious the student it.

>>693
He has mental innless and paranoid.
Just leave him alone.

His dream is to discuss linguistics with Chomsky at MIT.
But he doesn't even have the ability to explain in English,
much less his academic credibility.
He is a good example of how English education is shit in Japan.

>>694
But they don't see quality of people.

Was Geroge W bush really smart in his youth?
He was ridiculed as an idiot here and there. But I don't think he is that fool
thoug. Is he really fool. He can't do simple math?

>>694
When things are confined to public school, amount of wealth and reputation of student's parents
cannot affect exams.
It's fair to say that in Japan ever student has chance to success in terms of reputation or something.
(People's careers are very important here)
This system, however, cause a severe competition among high school students and is a very heavy burden for them.
You may be luckly not to have went through this severe examinations.

>>694
Will you explain why southern girls are associated with
red hair or why red hair is characteristic of souther girls (charm)?

I don't think you don't have much celtic people there?
Is it preference in the south?

Why you guys are familiar with 戸田 ?
He is such a famous person as you talk about even here in 2ch?
I know how difficult to pass the examination of Tokyo University and enter 理三 though.

>>697
>When things are confined to public school, amount of wealth and reputation of student's parents
cannot affect exams.

Practically speaking, you are wrong. One survey shows that parents average income
of students of Tokyo univeristy is beyond 10 million yen according to
one survey.

In reality it takes lots of money to have kids go to Tokyo university.
You can't pass its examination only by school education.
In almost all cases students have to go to cram school for years to reach
the level of passing prestegious universities such as Tokyo university.

So the wealthier a family is, the more advantageous its children.

http://www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/pix/hw05/PinkDressRedHair-m.jpg
Some say it's red hair. But I think it's blonde.

http://www.bartcop.com/nicole-kidman-fosters.jpg
Is he called red hair? I think it's blonde.

Some put adjectives like reddish strawberry front of blonde.

These are intermidiate? In general what do you call these?

>>700
It's true. But they don't have to live in mansion like Bush and
idiot like Bush.
They are mostly from upper middle class. Upper class goes to keio
elementary school and as such and Zeebra is clearly fooler tha Bush.

OH, no is she red hair?
Nicole Kidman is not she male. She sometimes looks like that thouth.
not intentional. I mix up she and he many times.

>>699

>>618 was the first time 戸田　was mentioned here.
I googled and found out that he was kind of well known for his intelligence
at high school.

>>702
All right.

>>694
When you see statistics for the average household income of parents of each university in Japan,
you'll find a strong correlation between wealth and the university ranks.
The richer parents can afford better tutors and better K12 education for their children.
Certainly you can't buy an entrance ticket for your kid, but it's not that fair.

Julia Roberts and Jennifer Love Hewitt are the ones to fit
southern charming white girls.
Jennifer Love Hewitt's style is just gorgeous. But I don't know
why Julia Roberts is so famous and special. Look at her big mouth!

And Sandra Bullock is the same southern type with smaller mouth.

I heard 戸田 was half french and spoke french very well.

I see, that is interesting. Cram school is something which doesn't even
exist in the U.S. (that I know of at least). Although students are somewhat
encouraged to participate in extracurricular activities and volunteer
work... it is the wealthier kids who have the time to do
those sorts of things.

I even read that 1/10 students in America even go to a private school
because of the lack of available seats and the lack of money.

>>698

My sister has red hair, but I always thought blonde hair was associated
with southern girls (that is always how they are portrayed in TV and
movies, anyways).

>>709
for some reason I heard twice that red hair girl is one of ideal white girl
images. Ofcourse from Japanese sources.

Is it true that red haired girls are passionate and jealous and
go mad about adultery?

By the way I for the first time learned that extracurricular activity
means improper se● activity. You have a quite good education
system.

>709
I am sure that number is higher, Only 1/10?

>>711
I surprised there are that many kids going to private schools.
It's true that academic success can be linked to socioeconomic status. However, that's why schools
like Harvard guarantee that if an applicant is accepted they can attend the university, even if they can't pay for the tuition.
But then again, most schools don't have endowments in the billions. Of course, education reform needs to start in elementary
and high school in order to lead kids towards good universities.

>>*【スパーキー(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 (Louisiana)
A boy also known as Sparky who lives only in cyber space. Sometimes you have a feel
that it's easier to communicate with cats and dogs than him. Some says he's a gifted troll
but he insists he's gifted in science and math. Administrator of deserted image boards.
http://4chan.b33r.net/sparky4/+4/
He's in serious love sickness. At Bar Gikoppoi, he met his cyber girlfriend.
It's said that his Windows Me PC calculates 4 times faster than IBM's Deep Blue.

fix'd! ^^

Could you possibly tell me what exactly "Love me do" means.
And please tell me what grammar item is applied to the phrase.
I don't think "love" isn't a verb used like "make" or "get".
- Make someone do something
- Get someone to do something
Do you think "love someone do something" is a generally used phrase?

>>714

Sounds like gibberish to me.

Ex-Prostitutes Say South Korea and U.S. Enabled Sex Trade Near Bases
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/08/world/asia/08korea.html?_r=3&hp

a group of former prostitutes in South Korea have accused some of their country’s former leaders of a different kind of abuse:
encouraging them to have sex with the American soldiers who protected South Korea from North Korea.

>>715
Could you possibly tell me what exactly "Love me do" means?
What do you think "do" is needed to complete the phrase for?
And I wonder if "I love you explain this" is grammatically ok or not.

>>718

The do at the end of "Love me do" makes no sense. I suppose it is intended
to mean "You will love me" like someone is commanding another to love him
or her.

"I love you explain this" doesn't sound grammatically correct to me.
"I would love for you to explain this to me" sounds better.

>>712
Tuition of Harvard is nearly ten times as much as that of
University of Tokyo.
And even in University of Tokyo there is full or half tuition waiver program
from comprehensive decision.
Next Year, University of Tokyo provides full tuition waiver to
every student whose parents' income is 4 million yens (approximately
4444 dollars) or under as a rule.
Those who are going to get will be around 10%.
4 million yen is not a dime. Just a little bit lower than
average income by businessmen. University of Tokyo went too lenient?

University of Tokyo is No1 university in Japan without doubt
while Harvard is one of the best. Their status in respective
countries are not the same but kind of similar. They have common in
prestige and the longest history in respective country.
(don't compare them one by one. I'm just talking relativeness.)
However University of Tokyo is a national University while Harvard is
a Private University.
In that sense we should compare University of Tokyo to state run
universities like University of California.

I heard students outside California can't get benefits Californians
get.

Peter Barakan, music critic living in Japan said British (public)
University was free.
He is from University of London.
I checked wikipedia and the story goes different...

Is it true that if British failed at tests on their way to University, those who failed would
never be back on the track to University?
When they are once screened out, will they never be given another chance?
It's tougher than US in a sense.

American educational system might take huge money. But I have an image that
there are people from various ages.

(approximately 44,444 dollars)
Correction

>>720
It is harder for non-Californians to get into the state universities.
That's mostly why I didn't bother applying to Berkley etc. I know in Illinois
if you live in state and you go to the University of Illinois tuition is something like $10,000.
However, if you live out of state tuition is at least 3 times as much. That cheap sticker price
is why over 50% of my grade applied to the UofI (and it's a good school). Sadly, all the schools
I've applied to are private universities. I'm crossing my fingers for lots of scholarship money...

Why didn't you apply for University of Chicago, your local
university?
I heard it's considered conservative and square and
those images keep off some students even though University of
Chicago is one of the best University.

I was going to watch a movie and my PS3 stopped working. Now I have to send it to Sony.

Why do electronics always fail me? This is karma, isn't it?

>>709
Oh, cram schools are ubiquitous here.
It's not exaggerated to say that a seven students out of ten go to such sorts of school.
I was going on some cram schools in my school days.
Compared to some boring classes in school, however, lectures in clam school are likely to be a bit interesting.

>>726
I can understand your irritation well when you try to use a electronic device but find it out of order...

>>728
It seems that every electronic item I buy is broken in some way, or a ticking time bomb waiting to break itself.
It's a conspiracy against me. They see me walk in the store and specifically give me the broken item, just to screw with my head.

It's sony's conspiracy against nintendo.
That's what could be called "Sony Timer", which might set up time bomb on sony's machines.

>>729
lol.
I hope electronic machines stop regarding you as an enermy some day in the future.

>>730
To make owners buy another one ?

>>731
Thank you. I certainly hope so, or I will be forced to destroy them all John Connor style.
But anyway, I still saw the movie on my Xbox 360, so no harm done.
It was "A Fistful of Dollars"... It's very similar to the Japanese film "Yojimbo" in both style and story.
It was very good.

Then were you trying to watch a movie by Blu-ray Disc?
It's better to use some Blu-ray device for your computer.

>>730
I hear that the Wii controllers spray trace amounts of cocaine into the air every five minutes.
Clearly this is why they are doing so well.

>>734
It was just a normal DVD, but now the PS3 can't read anything at all.
I have to find that damn receipt...

Thanks anyway.

>>733
You seem to be surrounded by many video games.
A lot of Japanese otaku may admire you if you come here.

>>735
That's not believable that Nintendo's employees have been in drug or whatever.
Actually I know that Nintendo's products is nonbreakable than sony's.

Current progress of video games is amazing.
This world must be utopia for children these days.

>>738
Is that supposed to be funny?

>>737
I don't know about that. I know from my posts I seem like I have a bunch of games, but honestly, I have very few.
The consoles I own have devolved into very expensive DVD players. Which is a huge waste of money. Plus, I don't like anime.

So I think an otaku would get bored of me pretty quickly, lol.

>>741
Oh, it's quite disadvantageous of you to dislike anime.
Affection to anime is indispensable to be otaku.
Congratulation!

>>742
Lol, okay, thanks. I'm very relieved.

I don't understand why grownups can melt themselves in computer games.
After all, computer games are all made by some number of people, and you act within what they have set.
If you yield original and unique and effective ideas into them, they won't be counted deservingly.
I want to be original and free, so I don't feel interested in playing computer games.

>>714
"Love me do" is an old Beatles song.
Since it's a song lyric, it doesn't follow the rules of grammar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEEC-yhr_Ks

Love, love me do.
You know i love you,
I'll always be true,
So please, love me do.
Whoa, love me do.

Am I the only person here who remembers this stuff?

>>744
You're right. You're basically being confined in another creative world.
I think some adults enjoy them because it offers escapism from a world where perhaps they do not feel like they are original and free.
It's pretty sad, actually... wasting your life away in a world that isn't real.

>>744
I guess many adults will agree with you, but
you had better not say such things before game lovers if you don't want to be killed.

>>745
Are you kidding? The Beatles are classic. Reading those lyrics, I can hear the song playing in my head.
My father used to play the Beatles constantly on long road trips.

>>745
Wow, I thought it was just an old Engrish phrase...
What dies it mean?

>>749
I think it just means "love me". Sometimes random words are added in to songs in order to make the right amount of syllables.

Is there any native speaker of English among those who do not use handles?
Or do all the native speakers of English in this thread use handles?

>>745
I know it because my father has a lot of CDs or records of beatles.

>>751
I have seen a few native-speakers here who don't name themselves a couple of weeks ago,
however, I'm not sure that they come here stil now.

>>729
Every electronic gadget is predetermined to break, or new products do not sell well.

>>746
Everybody needs the occasional break from their normal life,
as long as it isn't done to excess.
Watching television, reading books, visiting 2ch, playing video games,
all of these are a form of escape.

My Guitar Hero addiction is under control now, by the way.

>>751
Sometimes I wonder if there's something to that.
Having a handle gives you a distinct identity.
Do the native speakers here feel a need to do that?
Why should we feel that way? Maybe we need to be recognized
as individuals. Does that seem strange?

>>745

Oooooh, I remember that song. Yea, if that phrase was a song name then
it doesn't have to be grammatically correct or even coherent.

Damn, I haven't heard that song in a long time.

>>725
University of Chicago doesn't interest me and I don't want to go to school in Illinois.
Most of the schools I applied to are in New York and one school in California. I really
want to show you guys my application essay since it was about my experience in Japan, but
I should probably wait until I'm accepted somewhere to be on the safe side.

>>755
Yes, true. I was referring more to those who immerse themselves in games like Warcraft for hours on end. Pretty soon the real world takes a back-seat to the virtual world.
Things like family, personal hygiene and face to face emotional bonding are not as important as that separate reality - the idealised one. The physical world suddenly seems like more of a burden than a blessing.
We become a separate being; a person or creature who's features mirror the values of one's culture or own personal preferences.

But many activities, like you said, are forms of escape. Life is repetitive and familiar; books, movies, games and television spice it up.
These are fine, of course. But we must practice moderation in all things.

>>758
I don't know if it exists anymore, but back in the day when I was
still a college student, there was a group on many college campuses
called "The Society of Creative Anachronism". They would dress up
in medieval-like attire, and hold jousts on the campus lawns.
It seemed pretty strange, even a little disturbing, at the time.
Today I guess that would not be so unusual for people to dress up as
cartoon or video game characters.

By "cartoon" I meant anime of course.
And I shouldn't forget the Trekkies. Maybe that's where this trend started.

>>759
Wow, that is kind of... creepy.
Dressing up as cartoon or video game characters is pretty common now, at least among some very "dedicated" groups of people...
But I still find it odd. I know it's just supposed to be a fun thing, but many of the people who dress up are clearly not happy with their actual identities.
And some others are just narcissistic, thriving on the pictures being taken of themselves, which I don't think is healthy psychologically.

But I guess we all just have to live and let live. If somebody wants to pretend to be a stormtrooper, by all means....

>>758
Sounds like knowing very well about the virtual world.
Maybe you are coming from, or into the virtual world like the "Matrix".

>>762
Yes, it's true. This is all just a virtual world. In the real world everything is made out of chocolate.
But I have to go to sleep, so forget that for now.

Good night!

>>756
I always thought "love me do" was the same as the plea "do love me".

Of course, no real person would normally say "do love me", but
that sort of thing's normal in poetry and music, right?

>>763
Good night

Hey,do you mind me joining your conversations?
I am finding opportunities to improve my English

>>766
I don't mind, of course.
Remember that in order to join this thread, you don't
have to demand any permission from people here, since nobody can't give you it just as he/she
can't refuse your participation because they have no right.

BTW, it's almost impossible to identify you as long as you are an just ordinary anonymous...

I want foreingers to go home, they are in Japan illegally to commit crimes,
the crime rate of foreingers in Japan is rising, it is quite safe to say
foreigners are ethnically inferior and its their ethnic characteristic
to commit more heinous crimes than Japanese people do.

>>768
This is the best post of the year so far. Let's kick fucking gaijin out of the 2ch and Japan.

Zzz...

>>768
I know crime "rates" of them are quite high, but you must remember most of them are from Korea and China.
You can find specific data easily.
And almost all of those comming to Japan especially from English speaking countries which have almost the same ethics for rules
are good people. You should keep that in mind.

>>768
How much money can you pay for me to exile strong Russian and American soldiers
coming to Roppongi ?
I guess this kind of people are scare enough for women there.
So, I make them return to their countries and then I become hero.
As a result, I'm supposed to lose my virginity in the end.

robotinmiyazaki

>>772

Even if the U.S. soldiers left, do you think the Japanese government would
be able to recruit enough soldiers to replace them for national defense?

I wonder because I recall hearing at one time that Japanese men who decide
to join the military are ostracized.

Sitting in a small park across from a nursing home one day,
I noticed that the young mothers and their children gathered
on one side, and the old people from the home on the other.
Whenever a youngster would run over to the wrong side,
chasing a ball or just trying to cover all the available space,
the old people would lean forward and smile. But before any
communication could be established, the mother would come over,
murmuring embarrassed apologies, and take her child back to the young side.

Now, it seemed to me that the children didn't feel any particular fear
and the old people didn't seem to be threatened by the children.
The division of space was drawn by the mothers. And the mothers
never looked at the old people who lined the other side of the park
like so many pigeons perched on the benches. These well-dressed young
matrons had a way of sliding their eyes over, around, through the old people;
they never looked at them directly. ■The old people may as well have been invisible■;
they had no reality for the youngsters, who were not permitted to speak to them,
and they offended the aesthetic eye of the mothers.

What is the meaning of 'may as well' in 'The old people may as well have been invisible'?

"It could well be said that they were virtually invisible"?
or
"It would have been better that they had been invisible"?
or else?

>>775

I think it means, "Nothing would have changed even if they had been
invisible". In other words, it would not have made a difference if they
were visible or invisible; the situation remains the same.

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=gcLnGsSj8vA&feature=related

I have trouble listening to this guy babbling.
What do you think he says at about 4:29, I mean after he says
For starters, let's just say, I believe all the stuff you're telling me about
this data intergrated...*******

I can't recognize what he says *******.
Could you help me out?

>>774
I'm not >>772, but I think it'd be difficult to get enough soldiers.
It's not that soldiers are ostracized by many. If anything, I personally think we should thank for their courage and dedication.

But most of citizens don't think we need strong military forces.
We don't have oil or other natural resources. We are not hated by other countries for religious and/or political reasons.
We only have money ,i.e., yen, which would plunge quickly if war happened against us.
In short, no one would benefit from attacking this small island country.

Of course, we should have relatively strong forces for many political reasons,
but they are not enough to persuade normal guys to enroll in the military.
I think if the U.S. retreats from Asia, that means we don't need powers in this regin any more.

>>774
Don't worry. I don't think the guy is serious. If he is, he's brainwashed
by the rotten Japanese media (which is financed/influenced by Korea.
You might be surprised, but there are actually some people who are influenced/controled by them.
And most of them say Japan will be more peaceful without defence force, even though our country is
surrounded by North/South Korea and the communist China. They tend to ignore the fact that those countries
set missiles ready to Japan. I'd call them idiots.

Thanks for answering my question!

The aesthetic eye of the mothers were offended
because the old people were visible.

So, if the old people had been invisible,
the aesthetic eye of the mothers would never have been offended.

That is, it would have made a difference if the old people had been invisible.

First of all, is it possible to interpret 'may as well have been' as denoting "subjunctive mood"?

But I must go to bed. It's too late. Thanks again.

>>780 is for >>776.

>>778
>In short, no one would benefit from attacking this small island country.
Are you serious?
Do you understand China's been threatening Japan by crossing the boarder in the sea without permission?
Of course, the rotten media didn't take the news seriously, but China has been strengthening its armed forces hugely.
And while we signed an international contract that says "we don't have cluster bombs", those nations didn't participate.
I don't understand what the politicians are thinking.

>>777
whatchamahoozithingy?

He's using a variation of "whatchamacallit," which is typically used
to describe an object whose name can't be remembered.

More info here: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=whatchamacallit

"I would love for you to explain this to me" sounds better.

---
Is it natural English?

>>745
He is a English teacher. LOL

>>746
He is an English teacher. LOL

>>777
>>783
I think it's a quick "what-you-may-'who-is-it' thingy in space" so it sounds "whatchama-'whozit' thingy in space,"
where the "a"s in "chama" are technically /ə/.

I don't know how I should spell it, but I think he's saying "...who-is-IT thingy" quickly, though the "t" in "it" is like a stopping sound as in "tt" in "kitten" or "cotton" or "-" in "uh-oh."

>>759 >>761
http://perfunction.typepad.com/perfunction/images/2008/01/10/david_duke_3.jpg
http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/images/David-Duke-pix-2.jpg

Is he?
The last hope of America.

http://pc11.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/php/1214399978/


look!!!!

>>761
For some reason hollywoodnazi style is disappearing.
http://www.nsm88.org/photos/tyler_2008/tyler_2008.html
http://www.nsm88.org/photos/orlando/orlando_2006.html

Can you see the difference? They don't wear stormtrooper costume
any more. Does it make them look more mainstream, American
and original?
You can still see the cool design and the most prominent and important white
activist Bill White in the second picture.

HeHe. In your narrow world stormtrooper is this?
http://www.darth-sonic.de/images/news/stormtrooper_wc.jpg

You'd better see more things and expand your world.

>>784

Yea, it is.

How Dr. Laura is famouse?
I have listened to her show on AFN(American Forces Network), which is
the radio station whose shows you can listen to if you live near American nmilitary bases
in Japan.

Dr. Laura's show's opening theme. Ring the bell?
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=6iuP87yhbw4

I remeber I didn't understand most of the program but it's a call-in
radio program where listeners call the program to ask her for advice.
The advice run the gamut from relationship to child rearing.
I think listeners call the show because they trust her but I thought
the way she talks sounds arrogant and annoying.

More often than not she cut in when people on the other end of line
is still talking. That was most annoying thing.
I googled about her and her face was just like I imagined.
I would fart in front of her face to insult her.

>>792
I always thought "for" is unnecessary.

>>794
"I would love you to explain this to me."
It actually took me a second, but you are correct. You don't need the "for".
Although both ways are correct.

>>795
Thank you. I always say, "I'd like someone to do something" myself and thought using "for" was an old usage or too formal at best.
My understanding was:

I want you to do it. -> normal and direct
I'd like you to do it. -> normal, may sound a little formal
I would like you to do it. -> sound formal
I'd love you to do it. -> rare, sounds as if the speaker is female
I would love you to do it. -> rare, sounds as if the speaker is female

I was thinking if I said "for you," it would add certain grammatical tightness and the sentence would be inappropriate in most situations.

I don't really support any war as a means of solving territorial or ethnicized conflicts raging among two or
more nations, but I tend to see as rather idiotic those who advocate renunciation of war, armies or weapons
without having clear understanding of the efficacy of them as a source of deterrence or a political card to play
in foreign policy. As the US and China have been actively demonstrating, those are the most fundamental and
essential backbones for a nation to have in reality.

>>793
Which one is the person you refer to ?

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=6iuP87yhbw4
Is it song by Prince?

>>775
I figured out it was a story in Japan.
Is my guess right?

>>775
In the current society, maybe, 'the old people' can be replaced with 'people in a relatively low position in human society'.
I don't know well about current type of mothers though.

>>800
The passage was given in an entrance exam of Tokyo Institute of Technology (東工大).
But by googling, I found that it was an excerpt from Sharon Curtin's "Aging in the Land
of the Young", so the likelihood is that the scene depicted in the passage is not the one
in Japan. (I have no idea who Sharon Curtin is and in what backdrop the passage is
embedded, though.)

As for "as well", I found in Merriam-Webster Online the definition 'with equivalent,
comparable, or more favorable effect' <might just as well have stayed home>.

Maybe "more favorable" is more appropriate than "equivalent" or "comparable" in this
particular context, because being invisible would not have offended the aesthetic eye
of the mothers. ("Maybe" is the operative word.)

But I'm not sure whether or not this interpretation is right.
伊藤和夫's reading of the sentence in question is the same as >>776,
that is, "equivalent" or "comparable", not "more favorable".

>>802
Being cold and wary to old people and strangers, and staying in a group
reminds me of Japanese (young) house wives these days.
I thought these were characteristic of Modern Japanese culture.
Things seem not different from Japan. I don't know where and when
the story is about though.

Sweetsスイーツ and Park Debut公園デビュー are 90s and 00s phenomena.
They are only interested in the position of
their small circle and materialistic life.
They shun unpleasant things from their eyes.

I'm lucky to be male for competitions among house-wives in parks must be very severe.
Creepy.

>>803
"They are only interested in the position of their small circle and materialistic life. They shun unpleasant things from their eyes."

This attitude toward life is all too common now.

Is that from 英文解釈教室?
Some example essays was hard for me to
analyze sentence pattern at the first glance.
>>775 didn't include such a part. I'm glad.

"might as well have " must be hard for most Japanese and I don't
exactly rationalize this usage even though sentence pattern is
cleary svc.
I just thought "might as weel have" must have been "かのようだった"
in the context.

I went to a concert tonight. An orchestra which played mostly classical music.
Noteably, there was a Japanese musician which the maestro referred to as a
"master artist". She is apparently one of the best marimba players in the world.
I was really impressed with her performance. From my perspective, it seemed that her
hair was in the way of her eyes and I was wondering how she was playing such complex
pieces without barely seeing the keys... I assume she must be so well practiced that
she can play it from muscle memory.

Although the marimba doesn't really quite work well in a classical era orchestra...
at some parts it sounded awesome.

>>806
The passage is from テーマ別英文読解教室（19章�A）.
From the grammatical viewpoint, 伊藤和夫 is right,
but the interpretation seems to me to be incoherent
with the sentence "they offended ... mothers".

But I'm not at all sure whether or not my sense of coherency is right.

>>807
Do a man who goes to classic concert
say "fuck" any attractive woman including Black?

Classsic concert or listening to Classi music
is somewhat upper class and pretentious thing in Japan.
We have to be serious about it.

How about in the U.S? More casual and daily thing?

But I feel I've seen Rock'n roll videos destroying such people who
go to classic concert and such a life style.
Is Classic associated with establishment and education?

>>810
In my experience, classical music is typically associated with the upper class and is not a common activity.
In comedy shows and movies, people who listen to classical music are often portrayed as rich, old, and pretentious.
But that's an exaggeration. Some young people also enjoy classical music, but that is uncommon and not a casual or daily thing in most cases.

It's funny, we all listen to classical music more often than we think. If you watch television or films, you are constantly being exposed to orchestrated music.

>>811
I see. Let's destroy it with me.

>>812
Okay. I have a sledgehammer we can use.

Well, then I'll bring whole bunch of lighters in my house with me.

>>811

I wouldn't be exaggerating when I say that at least half of the people in
attendance at the concert were old and rich and at least half of them were
quite pretentious.

Personally, I love classical music. It relaxes and soothes me. I only ever
listen to rock, rap, metal, or whatever when I need to get pumped up for
something. It really just gives me a headache unless I'm trying to get worked
up.

>>814
Don't forget the hairspray.

>>815
I like some classical music. The songs that build up and eventually just let go are what I enjoy.
Some just annoy me, and don't seem to evoke any emotion or feeling at all. Plus, what I enjoy most about songs are the lyrics.
So classical music doesn't quite fit the bill.

>>811
>It's funny, we all listen to classical music more often than we think.

I don't think so. If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if classical music is more played than any other tunes.
It's a bunch of time-tested, quality-guaranteed materials. Besides, their copyrights are all expired lol.

>>811
Americans love to use orchestrated music in
the movie and news show.
I don't know why and when this trend was started.
The American news shows look exaggerated and
embarrasing because of the music.

The below is my speculation.
As long as SF movie goes, using Orchestra got mainstrem
by space odyssey 2001. I heard Kubrick previously
had modern music in his mind. He changed his mind and
chose classical music. At least this part is true.
Classics really go well with that SF movie. It's an idea of genius
to use old thing to state of art thing.
Maybe absolute truth goes beyond the time?

Start Trek started earlier. But I learned
Classic theme was for movie series. The classic theme is
more familiar to me and it's the thing to remind me of
Star Trek music.

>>817
True, true. That's also why characters like Frankenstein and Dracula are used so freely in all sorts of mediums. The copyrights have expired. It's easy pickings for script writers.
It's insane how careful makers of movies, music and television have to be. It's so easy to get sued in the modern world... I guess old classical music is safe and free... so why not?

Sorry Kubrik had a new classical score in his mind.
But He retracted it.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=ekDscvvYOFg
This one is the original score. it's really exaggerated, loud and
lacks the atmosphere of solemnnity.

Anywy it may be true that Odyssey 2001 is the trend starter.

>>819
Would you explain the difference between media and mediums?
Media is also plural as long as I know.

>>818
Yeah, classical music and SF films seem to go hand in hand. It's like a blend of the old and the new.
I think modern music and a SF setting in a movie can sometimes make the movie seem cheesy.
Serious orchestrated music makes the scenes look much more dramatic.
In a way, music in a film is as important as the film itself. The music single handedly controls the film's mood.

>>819
Ah, thanks. I've been using the verb "expire" the wrong way.
My mental image of the word was, um, like you can "expire" something.
It's like "finish" as in "I finished my homework." But it seems the meaning should be like finish as in "The concert finished."

I don't know where I got this false idea from. You know how embarrassing when you realize what you believed and have used for so long is totally wrong?
I got the same feeling when I realized "indict" is pronounced in-dight.

>>818
Correction
Go beynond time (and space). The is not needed.
Classic(al) music theme.
In japanese Classical Music is called Classicクラシック.

i change my image board's name again ^^;

http://4chan.b33r.net/sparky4/+4/
四葉の芽◇ちゃんねる
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>>823
I honestly didn't see anything wrong with your usage of "expire".
"Besides, their copyrights are all expired." <-- That sentence is fine. Although I think I may know what you mean.
You can't say "I expired my homework", or any variation of that. But something can expire, and a group of things can "all expire".

And I know what you mean perfectly. I can't think of an example right now, but there have been countless times where I have said something,
confident that I was correct, only to be corrected by somebody else. In public, I go all red and feel ashamed. It really sucks.

I like some classical music.
It's kind of funny how the music that was once considered upper class is now public domain,
and they're great stuff to fall asleep to.

modern music and a SF setting in a movie can sometimes make the movie seem cheesy

Are you refering to Flash Gordon?
I don't know the story at all and that itself looks cheesy though.

>>821
A medium is a tool used to create something, usually a form of media.
For example, the medium for a painting may be acrylic paint.
As far as I know, "media" and "mediums" can be used interchangeably and can have the same meaning.

ok folks
http://4chan.b33r.net/sparky4/+4/up/
http://dec.2chan.net/up/up.htm

Who has the better uploader? [feature wise]
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>>830
http://4chan.b33r.net/sparky4/+4/up/
this one can ban people like the image boards

>>829
Thanks.

>>832
You're welcome.

>>828
I've never heard of "Flash Gordon".
Although the name itself is cheesy enough to keep me away from the film.

>>783
>>787
Thanks.

>"what-you-may-'who-is-it' thingy in space
But I wonder if it's correct only to say "what-you-may-" before 'who-is-it',
I mean, do you think you need some verb?
I understand what "whatchamacallit" originates from, but not what-you-may-'who-is-it',
it doesn't make sense.

>>835
When I heard it, I thought he was using "who-is-it" as a sort of verb like "call."
That's why I put the quotation marks.
"what-you-may-'who-is-it' thingy isn't the same as "what-you-may-who-is-it thingy.
Anyway, I could be wrong. It's hard for non-native speakers to tell if there is a "it" between who's and thingy.
I thought there was though.

I drill my own anus for great pleasure

>>837
It'll be more fun when you stick it in your friend's hole and have another guy put it into yours.

ALL ABOARD THE MANTRAIN CHOO CHOO

boy it sure got gay in here...

>>798
Dr. Laura's show is a radio show.

The video I linked was a theme song of the radio show. Dr. Laura
isn't in the video. The video is just the promotion video of the song.
It was not until I saw the video that I knew the singer is an African american.

This is Dr. Laura.
http://images.google.co.jp/images?hl=ja&q=Dr.%20Laura&lr=lang_ja&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

>>841
Her face tells that she is a feminist.

Could you tell me how to study English? How about learning plenty of sentences? Of course it's boring and wearysome....

>>843
I think there's nothing effective way studying English.
The most important thing for studying English is to keep studying.

>>843
According to Heinrich Schliemann, who mastered as many as twenty-two languages,
reading books aloud is a good way to learn to speak Emglish.
But, he also said that attending a class, where you can learn the language, is neccessary.

robotinhakodate

>>843
As >>844 says, you need to study constantly for a long time, if you want to improve you English skills.
The way is very boring and tiring, and it commonly hard to skill up so quickly. So you will get annoyed once in a while.
But neve stop studying no matter what will happend. If you keep on studying even for a while every day, your constant effort will pay off someday.
I hope you will be able to have contact with English with enjoyment.

>>844>>845>>847
I do thank all of you for your quick and warm replies! I will try to read English aloud as possible as I can. My usage of English is awkward to you, but your replies made me encouraged not to be afraid of mistakes.

>>843
The best way is to find lover who speaks english.

>>849
Unfortunately,I have a Japanese girlfriend. Anyway,I also guessed that to have femle friends(←correct?) is a good way to learn different languages.

>>850
there is no rule that forbid you to have another girl friend

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can you please tell me who has the better uploader?
>>830

>>843
You gotta be kidding us all....

>>798
Laura Schlessinger ("Dr. Laura") is a well-known conservative commentator
from America who has hosted her own radio show since the 1990's.
She has run into controversy here with her anti-gay views.
She is the author of many books, including "The Proper Care and Feeding of
Husbands" and "Ten Stupid Things Women Do To Mess Up Their Lives". Despite
this, she is a self-proclaimed feminist.
In recent years, her popularity has decreased considerably.

Oops, >>798 was meant to be >>793

>>854
Somehow AFRTS has been carrying her program over their Radio network all over the world.
So we can hear it even here in Japan.

>>835 >>836
There are a bunch of (mostly American I think) slang expressions to use to refer
to something when you can't recall what it is. Don't think too much about
their construction; they just random nonsense words, and people sometimes make them
up as they speak. Here's a sampling:
whatchamacallit
doohickey
thingamajig(er)
thingamabob
whozawhatsis
whozeedingus
Sometimes people will combine 2 or 3 of these, and I think that's what Kyon
was doing to come up with "whatchamawhozitthingy".
Slang English can be made up on the spot, which is problematical for non-native
speakers I'm sure.

>>856
Many of the members of our Armed Forces tend to be more conservative
in their views. That's why they would choose a program like Dr. Laura for
AFRTS. I wouldn't be surprised if they ran shows like Sean Hannity's or
Rush Limbaugh's as well.

>>836
>"who-is-it"
I still don't understand.
Could that be a substitute for a verb?

>>857
Thanks. I missed reading your post.
I'll go through it now.

>>858
You've just hit the nail on the head. They do run Rush Limbaugh's and "Focus on the Family" as well.

i guess nobody likes
四葉の芽◇ちゃんねる

>>854
Thank you for your answer. I thought you have heard of her.
I don't like her because she sounds too assertive but callers are
her fans so maybe that's none of my business.

>>862
It's not the matter of I like 四葉の芽◇ちゃんねる or not.
It's just that I don't use image board.

>>859
Does this ever happen to you? You're talking about something, and
the word you need doesn't come to mind. That is when you would use
a substitute nonsense word like "whatchamacallit".
Is there an equivalent for this in Japanese? Or would you just use
これ、それ、あれ?

>>861
To my regret, my father is a "Ditto-head" (follower of Rush Limbaugh).
He wouldn't speak to me for two days after I referred to RL as "that
drug addict" after he was arrested for the illegal procurement of
prescription drugs.
Rush Limbaugh is my very least favorite conservative commentator.
I see him as a hate-filled hypocritical windbag.

>>865
Family feud over RL? Very sorry to hear that.
Anyway, I see Joseph Geobbels in RL from time to time.
More scarely is a preacher like John Hagee though.

>>865
Hahaha, yes it did. But it's really surprising English has this many slangs like "whatchamacallit".
Off the top of my head, the Japanese language doesn't have so many of those slangs.
And yes, I tend to use あれ most of the time when I don't come up with a proper word.

I just read quickly through the wiki article about Rush Limbaugh and found it a bit funny.
He seems to make very caustic and even sick comments on things like:
"Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society."
I can see how he gets on people's nerves.

>>864

WHY?
WHAT I THE REASON NOBODY IS USING IT?

>>868
But it seems to me the comment mirrors one aspect of the truth.

>>868
Consider Tajima Yoko and you'll understand what I mean.

Hey all, I just thought you might be interested in a live webcam feed from Gaza:
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=386&ar=NanaTV01&dr=02:30:00%20-%202k%20-
I was watching it last night (early morning Gaza time) and there were a lot of explosions, gun fire
and at one point the whole camera started shaking when an Apache helicopter flew right over head.

Back to studying for my finals... I have them all bunched up together because I miss the normal testing days
due to my presidential inauguration trip with school.

>>870
A grain of truth maybe, but it all depends on how you see it I suppose..

>>865
The japanese equivalent is なんとかってやつ... or なんとかかんとか、なんたらかんたら etc
Nothing like doohickey or whozeedingus though (I really like those 2)

>>862
I just dont click on any link posted on 2ch, its my policy. Because this place is a scary internet.

>>872
That's some really hardcore live streaming there. Good luck with your finals anyways.

>>870
Of course, unattractive men like Rush Limbaugh have always had access to the mainstream,
so easy for him to say.
And he is quite unattractive, the quintessential ugly American.
http://millerkevd.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/rush-limbaugh.jpg
Another Rush stupid comment:
"The phony soldiers." --on U.S. service members who support withdrawal from Iraq
This from a man who avoided the Vietnam draft due to his having an
"inoperable pilonidal cyst", which is a pus-filled abscess located between his
buttocks muscles.
I can't think of someone who would deserve that condition more than he.

But somehow he is insanely well-off. Who's paying him that much? I just don't get it.

>>877
Sorry, I am uglier than him.