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As for the previous thread's talk about "acting too Japanese making Japanese people uncomfortable", you've hit upon my favourite pasttime. : ) There's nothing more fun that learning cultural norms, perfecting your accent, and then watching people look very uncomfortable when you fail to live down to their expectations.
>>15 Most of it I think, although it's casual internet banter, and so sometimes omits the right punctuation or finer points of grammar, and there are spelling mistakes here and there.
>>16 I can only speak for my area. I live in Nagoya, which is a bit of a conversative town. My interaction is also limited to students at my evil eikaiwa branch, my girlfriend's friends, and my otaku friends.
With exceptions (of course), I find that a lot of Japanese people aren't surprised at foreigners who can speak Japanese, but they react more positively to Japanese-speaking foreigners who speak poorly and make lots of mistakes. If your Japanese is too smooth sounding, some people seem a little uncomfortable.
It reminds me of the "uncanny valley" theory of robotics...similarity up to a point it greeted positively, but somewhere before native perfection there's a degree of near-similarity that makes people uncomfortable.
That's unfortunate, in America, we're not at all bothered by foreigners speaking perfect English. In fact we expect them to. I guess it's because Americans rule the world, or something, and because they have many immigrants that there not a novelty, but commonplace.
>>14 That sounds fun in a cruel way. =P I'd like to think I'm relatively informed on the cultural norms... and I've been told my accent is pretty good on numerous occasions, both by native speakers and not. However, I still don't know enough Japanese to have very interactive conversations, so I'm limited to small talk and basic topics thereof.
Is there any situations I should pretend I don't speak Japanese in? I wonder.
In an unrelated comment, I'm hoping staying in Japan for a while will improve my Japanese.
It's becoming law here in Australia, lol. You have to take an English profeciency test. I think it's to keep out the damn scots and irish, coming here, stealing our jobs and their strange culture.
>>19 So do you think if a foreigner spoke flawless native-quality Japanese it would freak people out as much as if his Japanese was almost perfect but a little foreign sounding?
Oh, I feel I should also mention, supposing this all goes through and I'm there this summer, this will be my first time in another country. This is definitely going to be a new experience for me.
It will also be my first time living alone for an extended period of time. Almost a scary thought, but I think I'll do fine.
>>19 I'm japanese. I think when foreigners speak perfect japanese, japanese would treat them like japanese with less respect and modesty. japanese get more frank, I guess.
>>26 Wow, that's exiting. I've traveled in Europe so it's a bit different. But Japan should be an even bigger change!
I find it's the little things that really strike me as distinctive, like the sounds the birds/insects make, the smells, and the shape of the light switches.
Foreigners with less japanese skill would be treated tenderly. But If they can speak only English, there is another problem. japanese would escape from them. lol Many japanese including me are not confident in speaking English.
But you may be talked to by Japanese with good english skill who love to volunteer to talk in english.
>>6 Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.... >>8 I have a tiny bat and two little balls. Wanna try? Uho >>11 I decided that I'll put my head into it instead of hanging myself, giving you a warm blood shower. >>12 What a hearwarming comment. I decided not to die. Instead, I decided to fart. Thanks for saving my life.
>>28 Yeah, I imagine it will be a big culture shock. I'm looking forward to it!
>>29 Yeah I know what you mean. I have Japanese friends that I couldn't get to talk to me in English for a loong time. They're so shy about it; even when their English isn't too bad!
I think I can speak enough Japanese to get around if things aren't also available in English...
>Is there any situations I should pretend I don't speak Japanese in?
When you accidentally screw your dick in a cute Japanese girl on the street, all you have to say to the police is "Sorry, that was because I don't understand Japanese." You sure won't end up behind bar.
I think it's to keep out the damn scots and irish, coming here, stealing our jobs and their strange culture.
I don't get it. Can they speak English? Foreigners with English ability are disadvantageous in Australia? And it's surprising that Australia are still getting white immigrants from the western Europe. Irish and Scotts are better than Italian or Greek, aren't they. They have the same skin colour as you and similar culture.
When speaking quickly and slurring it a bit, yes, but actually the pronunciation is slightly different. in "they're" you're supposed to pronounce the "ey" followed by the "'re" where as in "there" just the "ere".
It's a very subtle difference, that as you can tell, even native speakers confuse often.
>>35 That's right - it's very common with "their", "there" and "they're" among English speakers. In fact, a lot of native speakers have trouble with homophones in general, not just those.
>>37 I think he was making a joke, because a Scott's or Irishman's stetreotypical accent or dialect would not be considered "English" by a proud Australian. So they are viewed as aliens.
>Ether I forgot to mention some positive sides of Ueno. Sorry I didn't know it was going to be your first time going abroad. I should've encouraged you first. There is a long alley market named アメ横, where you can buy all sorts of everything for cheap. They have a variety of good food trucks too, so you will be set with all the inexpensive food there. I like that place. Ueno Park has beautiful landscapes as you said, and lot's of museums, some of which you might like to visit. Anyway, the possibility of being harassed there is only based on my story when I took a friend from the US there; there was this drunkard sitting on the street, a typical jobless day labor, and he started yelling at us, calling him names and stuff. I thought it was sort of funny, but of course my friend found it crazy. So I'm sure you'll witness some interesting people in Japan. Have fun.
>>22 I resent that. I'm not a charisma man at all. I have no charisma.
The fact is, my girlfriend is just as crazy as me, so we get along together just fine. I don't ask her about her Obsessive-Compulsive habits, she doesn't ask about the boxes of Doujinshi in my bedroom. We get along great.
>>44 It was sort of a sarcastic joke by exaggerating something that doesn't even really exist.
I understand many Japanese have a hard time understanding western-style sarcastic humor. I know that would probably be a problem for me, since I use sarcasm all the time without even realizing it.
>>49 She's been wonderfully two-dimensional for the past two years. I wouldn't trade her for a limited edition, autographed RioGrand full-colour Doujin portfolio. And when we add in my two-dimensionality, we have four dimensions altogether.
How many dimensions do you have? Only three? I weep for you.
>>49 She's been wonderfully two-dimensional for the past two years. I wouldn't trade her for a limited edition, autographed RioGrand full-colour Doujin portfolio. And when we add in my two-dimensionality, we have four dimensions altogether.
How many dimensions do you have? Only three? I weep for you.
>>56 Replying with just one short sentense to the long post? How much time and effort do you think non-native English speaker need to write in English? Hahaha
>>60 Well, I didn't have a lot to say about the post. I had a very long reply earlier on when he was telling me about Ueno in the previous thread. I suppose it all balances out, in any case.
Plus, I don't see what baring my writing something short has on the situation, but whatever.
>>58 Well, I did major in Otaku Studies, with a minor in Physics. The two just blend so well together.
Actually, I just read an article in the English language "Japan Times", Thursday September 27th, that said Akihabara is being taken over by big corporate interests like McDonalds and Starbucks. They said the police are starting to drive away groups of Cosplayers because the 'new' Akiba doesn't want to scare away customers.
Any local Akiba-chan in the thread that can comment on this? I like Akihabara, and I think it would be a shame to see it ruined this way.
>>67 I don't understand why cosplayers are considered scary in the first place @x@ I think those Otakus who chant at their maid-idols with strange body-actions are much more scary, LOL
Seems hard to believe. Akiba is definitely the Otaku Capital now. How could any corporate interest attempt to change public perception to the contrary and why would they want to?
>>67-69 This trend has been going on for a few years since the start of the redevelopment project called "Akihabara Crossfield". And actually they are mainly targeting the electronics and IT sector, rather than cafes. Here's one related article. http://multi.nadenade.com/shinichi/archives/2006/05/post_59.html
Akihabara as a business district is quite well located. It's in Chiyoda-ku and has convenient train access, including the newly built Tsukuba Express. And rental offices there are also reasonably priced compared to other major business areas of Chiyoda.
So, if I understand correctly, is Akiba just a victim of its own success, where big chains are taking over the smaller businesses? If it chases away otaku, wouldn't that be suicidal for business?
>>71 Akiba's success as Otaku town was partly due to the downfall of electronics/computer shops after the bursting of the bubble. Then animation related businesses took over to fill the gaps. Now that the economy is making a comeback, including electronics, they are trying to get back to Akihabara again. But Otaku culture is not very compatible with the business world.
Regarding the purchasing power of the Otakus, it is likely to have peaked, due to the near- saturation of the domestic market and the decline of the birthrate.
"Communications giant NTT monopolized the area north of Akihabara Station with their Akihabara Cross Fields complex, which according to their corporate spin is a "global center for the IT Industry, providing office and conference space, convention halls and showrooms." A 2006 headline in the Nikkei Weekly newspaper mapped out the future: "Otaku ceding domination of famous Electric Town as development lures IT firms." While the paper was excited about the area's transformation into a massive "business center," Akihabara would soon be taking steps toward resembling any colorless metropolitan area (some recent store openings include a new Royal Host family restaurant, a Tully's Coffee, a McDonald's and a Starbucks). Now, the corporate-backed Akiba is becoming downright hostile to the otaku who once called it home. "
Otakus should get together and ask Aso to do something about it. If he makes a move to prevent Akiba from being another brick in the wall, he will become true hero of the Otaku kingdom!
>>75 What can Aso do? The office buildings are already there. And one of them houses the Tokyo Anime Centre. The more affluent anime otakus could set up a fund or company to rent office space and turn them into animation related businesses but I doubt if they would choose to go that far.
Yesterday, I received a very funny video from one of my internet-addicted housewife friends. I thought it was very funny, so I showed it to my husband. He thought it was great, so I showed it to my middle-school-aged son. He just sat there with his mouth open and looked at me like I was crazy. But that is his normal expression, so I didn't pay too much attention to it.
Anyways, this video is a mom singing about all of the things she says to her kids during the day. Non-native speakers, I'm very sorry, but she sings extremely fast, and you may have trouble understanding her. Think of it as the ultimate test of English. I can do a transcript if anyone is interested, but it will have to wait; I'm off to a PTO meeting! (A mom's work is never done.) Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_oc1j5NakY
>>74 As a non-Japanese, it's hard for me to judge if I'm a "true otaku" or not, but I visit the local costume cafe at least twice a month, I buy Doujin and figures, and I've been watching Japanese anime ever since I was a university student in Canada. I think that makes me otaku, but you'll have to be the judge.
eurgh... a maid cafe in canada.... How come all the fat chicks think here in the west think they look like the goth lolis or the young maids? I don't recall any ero games or anime focusing on a blimp or elephant seal fetish.
To be honest, I think the Maid Cafe business model just wouldn't get off the ground in the west. I've never seen it tried, but the customer base that it caters to in Japan just doesn't exist back home.
>>86 I'm very happy to be certified. m(_ _)m I just don't have the right figure for cosplay, sadly. Not unless there's any bulky white characters I can be...
Indeed we do. But I don't do anything without some sort of uniform. I haven't worked hard a day in my life since I left school because of that problem.
>>97 I don't think Japan would like that, they've got enough to deal with. They don't need greasy westerners running around shouting generic Japanese phrases like "BAKA" AND "DESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU". It... It just wouldn't be right. I say we send them to the moon. They can colonize.
That's true. I don't want to look up at the beautiful night sky, and see some guy dressed as sailor moon starring back at me. That would be horrible, HORRIBLE.
The sad thing is I don't mind anime or manga. It's being an anime or manga fan that I hate. I mean, christ, have you been to any conventions? Japanese officials should be recording their faces at these cons so they know who to refuse entry into Japan.
But I must confess most of the anime fans here are asians, who are by their nature timid and quiet creatures. But every so often there's a 500 pound dyke stamping around who's all about "yaoi" and looking like a goth (well, she's pretty damn scary). She thinks that "fanboys" are creepy and a bunch of losers. I mean, is there any point refuting her point or is it just too obvious. guess it's worse in the US.
AP news feed: American and Canadian embassies have been puzzled over the sudden rash of dead nationals appearing in Burma's streets. Soldiers in service to the military junta, when asked why they rifle-butted a man in a white mini-skirt and blonde pigtails to death, simply shrugged and said "It seemed like the right thing to do."
Maybe you could tell your friends in Japan to pick on their loser wannabe otaku english teachers. Pilgrimages to Japan seem to becoming more frequent this way.
Just tell the cops they felt up your kid sister or niece or something.
>>104 I can only speak for Canadians cons. Sure, they're probably not much better than American anime fans...I remember most of the people in my university anime club pissed me the hell off. But the Japanese otaku aren't exactly models of fantastic hygiene or social grace either.
Anyways, if they'd have snapped photos at the cons I went to, I'd have been denied entry. And that would have made me a sad panda.
>>104 Yup. It's really horrible. And the ones who are like that take s much pride in their work, one negative comment and they go all "Jabba the Hutt" on your ass.
>>108 Yeah, but the japanese are quiet. You hear these squealing fangirls who are way to chubby to wearing such a revealing costume on the train and it's like "Fuck, I have to walk into the same building as these asses". So yeah, I don't go to cons anymore. Oh yeah, lol, the "University Anime Club". I think I went three times, and fell asleep everytime at the back of the room.
I'm a simple man. I am watching amusing videos from various sources. Soon I will grow bored and look for something else. Much later I will grow amorous and look at something else.
You’re probably thinking that a talk called “Is there anything good about men”will be a short talk! Recent writings have not had much good to say about men. Titles like “Men Are Not Cost Effective” speak for themselves. Maureen Dowd’s book was called “Are Men Necessary?” and although she never gave an explicit answer, anyone reading the book knows her answer was no. Brizendine’s book “The Female Brain” introduces itself by saying, “Men, get ready to experience brain envy.” Imagine a book advertising itself by saying that women will soon be envying the superior male brain!
Nor are these isolated examples. Eagly’s research has compiled mountains of data on the stereotypes people have about men and women, which the researchers summarized as “The WAW effect.” WAW stands for “Women Are Wonderful.” Both men and women hold much more favorable views of women than of men. Almost everybody likes women better than men. I certainly do.
My purpose in this talk is not to try to balance this out by praising men, though along the way I will have various positive things to say about both genders. The question of whether there’s anything good about men is only my point of departure. The tentative title of the book I’m writing is “How culture exploits men,” but even that for me is the lead-in to grand questions about how culture shapes action. In that context, what’s good about men means what men are good for, from the perspective of the system.``
Read on at http://www.psy.fsu.edu/~baumeistertice/goodaboutmen.htm Discuss! What do you think will be the future of this culture, now that women are getting increasingly disposable with larger population counts and fewer men? Will a higher rate of women adopt stereotype male social patterns? Will more men adopt stereotype female social patterns?
These gender talks are stupid. Anyone who says that men are better are instantly called sexist. If there were no men on earth, women would have no one to blame or to use as an emotional punching bag, so they'd all kill themselves.
All these dumb feminists keep publishing bullshit because they need to feel good about themselves but nagging in writing. They have serious psychological issues, possibly regarding their childhoods. Decent women don't need to fall back on the fact they are women, nor do decent men need to crap on about them being a men. They go out and do their own thing, simply because they're good *individuals*.
People always act so amazed and stunned at changes in gender roles and developments. It's called human history. Things change. Get over it. Crap like this belongs in those shitty gossip magazines and current affair shows.
That said, women in general suck. Nothing like my 15yo 2D girlfriend. What a disappointment.
>>79 I could understand some of the words. Clean your room and such. One of the funny things is she has to sing very fast to pack all of mom's naggings every day in just a three minutes or so, which shows how many naggings moms are giving their kids, right?
Usually I would just say, "Why don't you save the money for food instead of..." Usually, we make a deposit at a bank, or deposit money at a bank, but it's not to clear exactly what you want the person to deposit from that sentence.
>>136 When you deposit money, you save money. When you go drinking with a friend of yours and you pay all the bill, you will say to her "Save the money. It's on me."
>>145 Well, I wouldn't be 'scared' per se, but I'm not stupid either. It would depend on whether it was a public place or somewhere more secluded. If I was in a very public area, I might. Otherwise, I'm not looking to be attacked.
I don't quite understand what discussion is going on in this thread. Anyhow, I HAD BEEN an anime fan until a couple of years ago, and I am pretty familiar with people who do cosplay. One thing I noticed pretty interesting is the big gap between costumes that the characters in anime show have on and the ordinary clothes. Animation requires a lot of drawing and painting pictures which must be slightly different from frame to frame to make smooth motion. Under these circumstances, there are some object which are relatively easy to describe in Animation, and others that are pretty difficult to describe. Facial expressions are easy to describe in Anime show as long as the basic character design is well-organized. However some of the most difficult stuff to describe in Anime show are the rotation of solid 3D objects and texture of clothes, both of which are getting much better after the emergence of 3D CG with tone-rendering. though. This way, animation creators are always trying to avoid scenes in which solid 3D objects like a space ship in space is turning its head or the character in clothes with intricate texture pattern on them is in motion. Consequently, the clothes in animation shows tend to lack texture. They have colors but no texture. When those clothes in Anime shows are realized as realistic costumes, they look quite bizarre, although they look quite natural in anime scenes, this is partially because they are so designed as to become anime scenes.
I don't have strong feelings about cosplay. I just don't understand its appeal. I have enough trouble coming up with decent Halloween costumes; I can't even imagine putting so much effort into looking like this year's popular anime character. An unusual hobby to be sure.
Amazon Japan overcharged me on my last order, and they are going to send me a refund for 130 yen (at least I think that's what the e-mail said). What is that, like a little over 1 US dollar? It will cost me more to have my bank process the stupid thing than it is worth. I wish there was some way of donating it to >>123; maybe he could use it to pay for part of a cup of coffee at the maid cafe.
>>84>>130 You tried the video! Good for you! I was wondering after I posted it if Japanese kids (or Australian kids or British kids etc.) are better behaved than their American counterparts? Maybe we yell at our kids more. Maybe we need to yell at our kids more.
Sorry I've been away for so long. I've been working on a project for my public speaking class. (BORING.)
I love how the topics just skip around on here! I myself am a mild otaku I guess, but it's kind of a secret! only my friends know that I like anime and manga. I don't get along with other otaku though. I hate to generalize, but so many of them are ...er...socially enept.
As for racists...I just avoid them like the plague!
>>156 Anybody who speaks ill of Mr.Rogers deserves a savage stick beating. Of course, the irony of using violence to silence a critic of Mr.Rogers is not lost on me.
It is the sixteenth century. From all over Europe, great ships sail west to conquer the New World: The Americas. The men eager to seek their fortunes, to find new adventures and new lands. They long to cross uncharted seas and discover unknown countries. To find secret gold on a mountain trial high in the Andes.
They dream of following the path of the setting sun that leads to El Dorado and the Mysterious Cities of Gold.
Have you ever felt empty talking to anonymous people here? I really do. Yeah we get along well alltogether here on suraface.
But in my life, I don' have any friends, not to mention freinds overseas and here is the only opprtunity I have to interact with English speaking people overseas.
I don't know if I want to make friends with anyone both in real and virtual life. But what is sure to me is chatting with you guys won't develop to friendship in real friendship, which kind of makes me feel empty.
Are you guys just thinking this is the place just to kill your freetime? Even if we get along well together, let's face it. We won't be real friends, right?
>>151 Are there any americans who won't go out and stay in the house on the day of Haloween? Americans who look askance at those festivals. People who can't enjoy the festival would be casted away in the society? And they would be labled as social failure?
America is a stressful place for me. People have to look happy.
Horror stories on a day upposed to be happy, for exapmle, Haloween and Friday the 13th(the date per se is ominous in the west), seem to be the revenge of unsociable people.
I want to ignore trick or treat guys at the front door. If they insist, I'll punch them in the face. But I won't whip a gun and fire at Hattori kunハットリくん, hattori yoshihiro (>>123)!!!
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>>173 I am the Magibon who puts videos on Youtube, but I'm not famous. ^_^ I've also been here for a little over a year but wasn't able to lately. >>174 A Halloween video? Maybe I can, but I always come up with ideas then never actually do it. T_T
I love seeing little kids going trick-or-treat. They look so cute in their costumes! But, I hate seeing high schoolers who just want free candy that should go to the kids. If they aren't even wearing costumes... GAH!
That's how I feel. XD
By the way, this thread wasn't really getting spammed before I came. Want me to stay away or stay anonymous?
>>178 Ha! You've still got some haters too. That's a kind of tax you have to pay as you get known. How? Just ignore them. Or go anonymous if you want. They must be the ugliest creatures anyway.
>>188 Hey Magibon, long time no hear! Rumor had it that you were in Japan for an audition, was it for real? Anyway, it's good that you came back safely and hear from you again after a long while!
>>192 oh....I see. I'm sorry to hear that, but some of us were kind of worried the agency might not be a decent one and they might just exploit you. Hope you'll have another chance sometime near future!
>>191-192 What is a theme here? I think this thread is proceeding by no meaning thing like which is a topic that everyone are had a interesting thing. If this is such, dump this into ass of the dirty yourself.
>>178 Are you having any picture like porno in your PC? You should take out them of your PC. If you do so, you take off the your fucker of yourself mind.
What do Japanese people do for Halloween, if anything? I imagine they don't really celebrate it that much, am I wrong? Do Japanese kids trick-or-treat?
In a civil society, one can find the ability to just ignore the "camwhores" one dislikes, thus depriving them of their attention. Starting a flame-war only makes the matter worse, and only draws attention to your hated foe.
The internet is neither civil nor a society. Also if the haters ignored them then there would still be a bunch of failures trying to get e-laid by throwing praise at them. So the best thing to do is to ruin it for everybody.
>>201 As far as I know, the japanese people does not celebrate it, which is the Halloween, we celebrate the Christmas though. We have plenty of money more than other country so essentially we have not a culture like trick-or-treat, I thought.
Trick or Treat isn't about charity to the poor, it's about a kind of community sharing in which we entertain children by having them "hunt" for it from house to house, in their costumes of course, effectively "scaring" the neighbors into giving them candy, but usually it's just cute. At least that's the tradition.
hooligans might bring eggs or toilet paper to vandalize the houses that don't give candy, but these people are usually seen as jerks.
>>215 You would know, and I wouldn't so of course you're right. Maybe what I saw was just a costume party, and a haunted house that were unrelated to Halloween. Seeing vampire, mummy, ghost, etc really makes me think of Halloween.
Nobady knouws about Halloween's history in Japan. but they are buy many Halloween's goods and dcorate it. it's really fool,isn't it? japanese may be vain race.
What happened last Thursday? I'm not professional enough to go and look at wikichan or whatever they use since I visited. I'm just another lurker who reaps the benefits of the good work being done by more determined internet warriors; An internet with less fail.
ex-boyfriend the other day. He has asked someone's help and advice, like me... Because he is really worried about his job these days. Such as he's thinking of going to quit his job and so on. To tell the truth, I broke up with him about 5 months ago. He's 5 years yonger than me. He graduated from university in Nagoya,and decided to start new job in Osaka last spring. After few months later, he got transferd to Nara. He was really busy from then on. (He is still busy now) He couldn't take a day off,and had to work overtime. So it was so hard to keep relations between him and me at that time. But we still keep in touch by e-mail once in a while.
I wish I could help his matter. But I couldn't advice to him easily... I hope to it turns out well!
I'm sorry for writing my poor English diary. Thank you for reading.
>>people who are studying at or graduated from a university in the US
I'm a Japanese university student now and I want to transfer to a university in the US, so I'm thinking about what university I should enter. I want to enjoy my university life but I heard that most universities in the US are located in really rural area. How can university students in the US enjoy their life? Many Japanese students are eager to enter university which is located in an urban area, such as Tokyo, Osaka or Nagoya. Is it ridiculous to choose university to go by considering where it is located? Please give me some advice!
>>235 I went to a university in Vancouver, Canada, and that was centrally located, less than an hour's drive from the city itself. I don't know about US universities, but surely they aren't all in the middle of the country.
Personally, I chose my university based on how long the bus ride to and from campus was. I think it's normal to choose a campus that's convenient to you, unless you're some over-achieving career hunter that /has/ to get into an A-rated school.
2ch has those same feelings, but he chooses to hide his dirty thoughts with hundreds of themed boards, pretending to be interesting in other things. You can't deny your true love!
>>235 Well, as >>236 mentioned, that really depends on you. If you're looking for the top of top schools, then location shouldn't matter to you (in my honest opinion)...
However, otherwise, it is perfectly reasonable to choose one convenient for you. These days, you pretty much get the same education everywhere anyway... the differences between the top schools and the normal ones as far as the quality of education are becoming more and more subtle every day (at least in the US).
Personally, while I've had invitations from universities such as Stanford, it's more convenient for me to go to local ones such as UCF. I have a scholarship and grants that are only usable in Florida, so it's most beneficial for me to stay in Florida for my post-secondary education (at least until my Florida exclusive scholarship runs out... but that will be 6+ years from now). I'm getting paid to go to school, so I'll stay here for now.
>>255 No. However, I have lived on the east coast all my life. I was born in Virginia, moved to Maryland at maybe eight or nine, and then down to Florida at ten. I've lived in Florida ever since (I am currently eighteen).
>>258 It's a little bit shaky, yes. I am a local because I've been here a long while... perhaps 'native' would've been a better word to use in place of 'local'.
>>259 Yeah, I guess you could say I'm half Floridian. An odd way to put it, as we don't commonly make that sort of distinction, but it makes some sense I suppose.
>>261 Huh? Not at all. I mean, some people have problems with people from the far north coming down here all the time (usually during the winter), but that's because they commonly do things locals here know you should never do (like feed the alligators... which in turn associate humans with food (they aren't very smart) and may attack a human (which, at that point, usually ends up being a local) if said human does not have food for them). Also, a common complaint is that many people from the far north are loud and rude... which, as much as I hate to admit it, oft seems to be the case (though I'm sure their actions aren't rude where they're from). However, I wouldn't say that southerners keep out outsiders at all. As long as they don't do overly rude things, and are willing to learn it's not exactly the same down south as is north, they usually get along just fine.
Well, that's how it is in Florida, anyway... I can't speak for other southern states. It's not exclusive at all, just slightly different.
>>264 I think that >>261 is referring to the southern states which have a reputation of being 'redneck'. To most of us outsiders, that's how we see the southern states, but never Florida.
We see Florida as (other than the place that always gets hurricanes) the place where middle and upper-middle class families go for the summer, where there are beaches and trees as well as thriving cities with plenty to do.
Go to Louisiana, and we think of crazy men with half French accents sitting on the porch of their swamp-shack, strumming their banjo at alligators. Texas, we think of families in wide-brimmed Stetsons, lassooing cows and shooting each other. It's that kind of stereotype that us foreigners think of.
marlie? marly? and me is an autobiography of one dog lover who lived/lives in Florida. I bought it because I happened to know that it was on the New York Times bestseller list for a long time.
I read it in English. I didn't skim through it. Instead, I read to understand each and every sentences and looked up every word I hadn't known. Guess what? It took two months to read through the book that way.
Reading that way is never reading for pleasure. It's reading for torture.(nice rhyme for a non-native English speaker, eh?) Just skipping unfamiliar words while reading would have taken less time and that's what I usually do, but I thought sometimes reading with unfamiliar words unleft would help improve my English even more.
Two months is too long to read just less than 300 page paper back. But I have to face the fact that that's my limit of my English proficiency as of now.
Seems like few people overseas here read Japanese novel in Japanese. Maybe you guys just read Japanese mangas in English.
Why do the Japanese think it's ok to keep Rebuild of Evangelion all to themselves???? the Koreans won't even get to see it till October 12th, and then only at a film festival!
No, If I was going to travel, I'd just travel to Tokyo. My point was that besides that one Pusan international film festival, the film isn't getting released abroad at all.
Bah, I hope it never happens, that would be such a bad idea. Currently the project is on hold, I hear. Weta Workshop (King Kong and Lord of the Rings effects house) was working on some of the concepts, and they said it was on hold.
>>279 Of course it doesn't apply to all, but it is a common complaint here, mainly about New Yorkers and people from the surrounding areas. Tend to come down here for business reasons too, and mow down all the trees and such. A lot of locals are pissed about that kind of thing. >>
>>236>>244 Thank you for your advice. I feel relieved to hear that I'm not stupid. But, I want to go to prestigious public university which is ranked here, because I want to get a high income job. ↓ http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1natudoc_brief.php Ether said that "If you're looking for the top of top schools, the location shouldn't matter to you." What is "the top of top schools" suggest? Does it include the universities above?
>>281 Yes, those are all some of the top Universities in the nation. However, these days, it's mattering less and less which university you came from, and more and more what type of degree you hold. The quality of education is evening out everywhere it seems. So, do not expect necessarily to get a high income job just because you go to a top-ranked university; someone that went to a lesser ranked university may get the job instead, because the quality of the education was roughly the same.
Don't get me wrong, those are all very nice schools, and I'd attend them if I lived nearby. I've had invitations from Stanford and Duke myself, but they're extremely far away, and extremely expensive. I'd rather pay less and get the same education at a lower-ranked school. In fact, I'm being paid to attend pretty much... my scholarship and grants cover well over 100% of my costs currently, and the extra money comes to me. I'm probably making a trip to Japan this summer, and possibly next summer as well; the aforementioned money is paying for a great deal of it.
>>269 The character Borat is played by a British comedian called Sacha Baron Cohen. He poses as a Kazakhstani reporter (because nobody really knows much about Kazakhstan) and sets up interviews or events with people. Most of the time these people don't realise he's fake, and that is what they show. People have threatened to sue him in the past. He makes a lot of anti-semitic jokes, even though he is Jewish in real life too.
>>283 Not particularly, but it is true we aren't doing very well right now. But that really doesn't have anything to do with it. I don't know about how it is over there, but here, being from a family that doesn't have much money does not mean that you can't go to the top-ranked schools. If I wanted to, I could. I just don't see much of a point in it when you consider the fact that the quality of education is pretty much the same in the schools that aren't in the top-ten as those that are. I'm staying where I am because my family is here, I'm making money doing it, and the schools here are quite good. My scholarship covers almost all of my costs, but I can only use it at Florida schools. I'll have to get a different scholarship if I decide to transfer to Stanford, MIT, or any of the other top-schools in my field. As it stands, I see no reason to - I'll learn the same things there that I learn here. It's getting to the point where it doesn't matter which University you attended; just as long as you have a degree and the school is accredited.
It's interesting to see, however, the almost even split in religion. There is only a very small majority in Islam over Christianity (Russian Orthodox) in Kazakhstan. I guess it's not surprising considering Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan to the south are very Muslim countries.
Also, a common complaint is that many people from the far north are loud and rude... which, as much as I hate to admit it, oft seems to be the case ----------------------------------------- Hmm. It's interesting and surprising. I don't have real experience with northern people. just an image. And I think many japanese slightly share the image of that kind. Northern people are calm and gentle. Southern people are wild and rough.
>>298 Sorry, I'm refering to North and South of America.
In japan it could match somewhat. Northern people are silent and not good at expressing their feelings. Southern people are more talkative and emotional. like that.
It's the very opposite in England. People in the north are supposed to be primitive and violent, whereas people in the south are supposed to be sneaky and deceitful. Sometimes southerners call northerners "Northern monkeys", and the reply back is usually "Southern fairies".
My scholarship covers almost all of my costs, ---------------------- Don't Ether have to pay back money? In japan scholarship means debt with very very low interest rate.
I think a Japanese applicant stick with the notion of going to top rank universities. That is japanse value. Korea and China are more crazy about brand. Now some Korean notables are criticized for academic fraud. In broader sense, this is east asian trend.
>>303 No, you got it right. Northerners see southerners as soft and harmless, like little girls in dresses. Southerners see northerners as backwards people who work down the mines, then beat each other up at the pub every evening.
>>302 Very good point. It's probably very similar to how the Anglo-Saxons saw the Vikings and vice-versa.
>>306 Manchester is just above the divide, and Liverpool is further north, so yes. Newcastle is more notorious for drunken behaviour though, and that's almost the most north you can get in England...
>>301 A scholarship in the US does not have to be paid back. It's a grant with special conditions attached; usually things like keeping your grades above a certain point.
But Scholarship is more easy to get in japan. I think. It is often the case that people with scholarship don't really study hard and some even go away with debt. No effective punishment. Situation seems to be getting tougher though.
Is it a really hard school to get into? What sort of a CV would you need to be admitted as a foreign student I wonder? I'm interested by the fact that it seems so international, there are a lot of courses taught in English I hear.
>>310 I see. Yeah, you can't slack off and get scholarships here, or grants for that matter. Interesting how the same term has such different implications between the US and Japan.
I hate waking up too early. It's bad enough I have to get up early just so I can get to work on time, but having the extra three or four hours before work can be boring. It's hard to motivate myself when I wake up because I'm still groggy from all the sleeping.
Uni sucks. I've been here for just under a year and I hate it. Tomorrow my mid-semester break ends, so I have to go back. I will go back dressed as a pirate, and lob a whiskey bottle at some dumb blonde bitch's head.
>>286 Networking at top-rated uni is one of the crucial factors. Graduating from a uni in Florida gives you chances to be friends with gators. Lucky you.
>>286 Thank you Ether. How did you enjoy your university life? I'm so bored and sometimes fall into a depression here, and that's the one reason I want to transfer to university in the US.
As Internet gets a position of a social infrastructure, online universities are mashrooming in US and maybe other countires.
Do people over there think that a diploma of such online universities have the same value as that of real university? Or people look down on a diploma you get through online university?
In Japan, some people take advantage of online education provided by private companies such as a language learning, but when it comes to online university, I've never herad of it.
>>322 I see. I wonder why you get into depression. If you have trouble with communicating with other students and that's the cause of the depression, entering American university couldn't be a solution.
Once you are in US and go to university there, there would be a language barrier and that would make you feel even more depressed.
>>307 >Newcastle is more notorious for drunken behaviour
I don't doubt this. When I met a guy from Newcastle at a friend's house, what he bought first upon arrival was a Miller beer case of 24 cans(500ml) and that didn't last more than three days. He also went out drinking to the sports pub whenever they had a football game. lol He was a calm guy though.
>>320 Actually, so called 'diploma mill' or 'degree mill' i.e. unauthorized on-line universities that provide only fake degrees, are becoming a problem also in Japan. Those universities usually only have a P.O.Box, pretending to have a campus with real university by taking advantage of the fact that students apply for it only through the Internet. of the fact that the students never have to go to th
I didn't know the education ministry has the power to determine the content of textbooks used. Is this policy going to affect ALL highschool textbooks? I thought the books were published privately, how can they do that?
It's really disgusting that the education ministry is going out of its way to distort history like this.
>>328 Yeah. Ministry of education is in charge of checking textbooks used in school. If they don't say yes, no text books are used in schools. This is how things are.
>>328 I agree, it's a dark day when historical revisionists get their way. In Canada, we had to learn all about the internment of Japanese Canadians. And I'm damn glad we did. I like my home country, sure, but a sane love of your own country involves being able to look back and say "we were wrong".
Americans talk a lot of smack about America but are also passionately patriotic, I think. I also remember history teachers in high school saying "It was an evil thing we did," and things like that.
But if you think about it, maybe Japan covers up a little when it comes to more evil times in their history, but Japan doesn't make the mistakes over again. America teaches "History will repeat itself if we don't talk about our misdeeds," but is more violent and mistake prone, isn't it?
>>333 It's true that American patriotism has been used to justify great evils in history. I remember clearly when my 6th grade history teacher justified the atomic bombings. She had her argument, but she refused to consider that there might be more going on than her peachy image of a merciful America "saving lives" by forcing a total occupation.
Seems to me like these lawmakers are like, that. They refuse to listen to history or anybody else. America has plenty of evil in its history, some of which isn't taught or is side-stepped, in some textbooks. But as far as I know, there aren't any education ministries specifically censoring certain aspects of history. They don't have any such authority.
>>333 They have been always winner. Nobody can instruct them. America didn't lost the Vietnum war. It was just a retreat from aggresion after killing ten times as many as american victims.
>>328>>335 It's not the matter of true history or not. It's the matter of freedom of speech and education. Japanese authority essentially admits free publication of school textbook. But Education ministry exams the accuracy and delete or change the article which they think is not correct nor proven.
I think freedom or speech and publication is more important than its corectness in America. And both sides to publish and choose take the responsibility. Americans seem to think when leting it happen, it'll become near to truth.
We should not assume okinawa side is right. They always say truth is truth. But they don't try to hear about another opinion. No democracy. No argument. they just claim and try to change.
we should also note that ecucation ministry has been changing the articles that says positively about japan into negative ones.
Either way is possible.
Japanese people tend to give in to soothe protestors and escape from problem. But this time, education ministry should not do that way.
Actually, I remember my teacher saying that the atomic bombing were the most evil thing possible and we did it and need to feel ashamed. I think Vietnam was also portrayed differently from how it was for >>336.
So, America doesn't have a Ministry of Education dictating how these events are taught, but we instead have countless teachers putting their own views and opinions into it as fact. Which is better, do you guys think? I'm not sure right now.
>>341 You are. I'll be more careful to put a ">>335" into my posts so as not to take your thread that you own and are king of into a direction you don't want it to go.
Atomic bomb dropped. That is true. But the thing gets more complicated when it comes to why and its ligitimacy. I don't and don't wanna agree with american view. But I don't want to meddle in another country's problem. And I can understand american standpoint.
It's unthinkable for america to have the textbook to blame vietnum war and atomic bombs in ethical sense.
You say america is anything free. But actually vocal interest groups have the power and control ecucation. Veteran groups and religious groups, etc. If a school adpoted a textbook which condemns atomic bombs and vietnum war, veteran groups would get angry and protest. There would be a possiblity of murder.
You know abortion issue? Country of freedom of speech. But always intimidation and murder.
Japan is not as progressive as america from american view.
But textbooks in japan are not government-designated. Goverment touch up and change a few ariticles. And it's odd most of the textbook companies hav been anti-LDP and phillo-opposition parties (historically social party). One was led by communist party. There is a twist that american can't understand.
Korea(one of democracy states) still keeps the policy of government-designated textbooks, let alone, china, north korea.... Russian school textbooks seem to be virtually governmen-designated ...
And I also wonder ugliness of beautiful japan is embodied the most by the national highschool baseball tournament.
They are all cropped short and walk like soldier, They surficially say beautiful things. But behind the scene, students are bullying, smoking, drinking, to let off the stress of competition and discipline.
And oddly enough, the national highschool baseball tournament is promotied by asahi shinbun which has been famous for bashing abe.
Wow, very interesting conversation up to this point.
>>330 Yeah, I agree. You have to be able to admit your country did wrong. People who act as if their country shits gold are truly naive.
As far as textbooks go and the bombing issue... none of the textbooks I remember put the situation in either a positive or negative standing. They explained the situation, but never alluded to whether it was right or wrong. They allowed the students to come to that conclusion on their own.
>>351 Really? It is a matter of course in japan. We tend to priotize knowledgement to debate. And japanse are not good at talking..
For example, Look at pro-wrestlers. I am always amazed by WWE superstar eloquency eventhough there is a script. Japanese wrestlers are very poor at speaking like wet blanket.
I think there are two main reasons for that. One is that although women join workforce more and more, when they get married, many of them stop working and focus on house chores and child rearing. Some of them get back to workforce after their kids need less care. However, in a corporate promotion system, once you quit working temporarely, your chance of climing corporate ladder becomes slim. This is the fisrt thing that prevent a women from getting promoted to the top of hierarchy. The notion that men is the only bread winner in a house hold works in favor of men's more chance of getting promoted.
The second reason is what is called the glass ceiling. In my opinion, there's still a conventional idea porevailing that men can perform better than women do. So men tend to be considered they can manage a more important project than women and they are given more opprtunities to brush up their skills in their carrer. This gender equality helps men become the top of a company.
The two main reason that produce less female CEO come from the gender role of a houshold and gender equality in a company.
680 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2007/10/01(月) 23:51:19 Merits and demerits of rural life
Merits of rural life come down to less crime rate and abundance of nature. People in a rural area know more about their neighbors and they people in a city and they help each other when something you can't handle yourself happens. The fact that everybody knows everybody contirbute to becoming a safe community and that leads to less crime rate.
An rural area is rich in nature and it has less air and water poollution. Living a life surrounded by nature gives you an ease of mind. You never get stressed out. Rural life gives children more opportunities to strengthen their body and safe environment to grow up.
Dmerits are people in a rural area sometime have to give up modern convenience which a city life provides. They have to give up good transportation systems and shops which carry anything you want. There's less things to do at night that people in a city enjoy. So only they do at night is making love with their spouse or partner.
After all, sometimes disadvantage of a rural life can be its advantage and vice versa.
The number of cell phone users has been increasing as more and more people understand the convinience it gives. A cell phone is not a tool just to talk with someone on the other end anymore. You can send and receive e-mail, play games with it and it even gives you an opportunity to get accessed to the Internet and browse websites.
All these features is extremelly attractive especially to young people. They can't get their mind off of incoming e-mail their friends send 24 hours a day and keep checking them even in a class, at a station and at home.
Some people are addicted to free online games and playing them all the time. Even when they are hanging around with friends in town they never forget to monkey around with their cell phone. Sometimes virtual world a cell phone provides to them is more imprtant than real friends.
Parents don't know what their kids are doing in their room. As long as they always have it with them, they are doing something with it, whatever it is. I would go as far as to say that this is a kind of addiction.
>>375 There are quite a few spelling, structural, and grammatical issues, but the point gets across. Feel free to contact me via e-mail, and I can help you revise them, if you wish.
The number of cell phone users has been increasing as more and more people understand the [convenience] it gives. A cell phone is not a tool [just for talking with someone else / used just to talk with someone else] on the other end anymore. You can send and receive e-mail, play games with it and it even gives you an opportunity to [access] the Internet and browse websites.
All these features [are extremely] attractive[,] especially to young people. They can't get their mind off of incoming e-mail their friends send 24 hours a day and keep checking them even in [] class, at a station and at home.
Some people are addicted to free online games and play[] them all the time. Even when they are hanging around with friends in town they never forget to monkey around with their cell phone. Sometimes [a virtual world / virtual worlds] a cellphone provides [them with] is more [important] than real friends.
Parents don't know what their kids are doing in their room. As long as they always have it with them, they are doing something with it, whatever it is. I would go as far as to say that this is a kind of addiction.
* Grammatically, they're pretty good and they are all readable. Most of the spelling is fine too. I've outlined corrections in square brackets, so you can see what I'd change. Most importantly, though, they all get the point across. Only been through the cellphone one so far, but will do the same with the others if you'd like.
Ever since the time of the Great Cataclysm, the Arkadians have lived deep in the center of the Earth. They believed they were the only survivors of this great devastation. Their civilization thrived under the power of their sun, the Tehra, until it began to fail. In desperation, the children of Arkadia broke the law and enter the forbidden archives searching for a solution. What they discovered gave them hope. Anxiously they used their special powers and created a messenger to the people above. They named her Arkana.
Today was a sad day. A piece of paper was posted through my catflap, with human words on it: "LOST - a longhaired brown tabby cat by the name of "James"..."
I hope that James is alright and has not been harmed. It is good to know his servants worry about him; it must mean he treats them well and therefore is a kindhearted cat. So if anyone meets a brown, long-haired cat named James, please tell him to return home.
>>367 Good job! I'm very impressed. Here are a few suggestions; I've tried to leave it in your original wording as much as possible:
Why are there so few female CEOs in Japan?
I think [that] there are two main reasons for [this trend/phenomenon]. One is that although women [are joining the] workforce more and more, when they get married, many of them stop working [to] focus on [household] chores and child rearing. Some of them [return] to [the] workforce after their [children] need less care. However, in a corporate promotion system, once you quit working [temporarily], your chance of [climbing the] corporate ladder becomes slim. This is the [first] thing that [prevents women] from getting promoted to the top of [the] hierarchy. The notion that men [are] the only [breadwinners] in a [household] works in favor of [men getting] more [chances] of [becoming] promoted.
The second reason is what is called the ["glass ceiling"]. In my opinion, there's still a conventional idea [prevailing] that men can perform better than women do. So men tend to be considered [for] more important [projects] than women[,] and they are given more [opportunities] to brush up [on] their [career] skills. This gender [inequality] helps men [rise to] the top of [their companies].
The two main [reasons] [for fewer] female [CEOs] [are due to] [household] gender [roles] and gender [inequality] in [companies].
Whew! This is the second time I've edited this passage; somehow I deleted the first post. I have this sinking feeling, though, that I'm helping you with your homework, and I hope it's okay.
>>394 A sad day indeed. We have many missing cats in our area. Often, they have been eaten by wild coyotes. However, we once had a cat that turned up after 3 days missing, and I've even heard of cats reappearing after months of being gone, so it is too soon to give up hope for James.
My house is only five minute's walk from the station. and My watch may be one or two minutes fast. My sister came to my house yesterday. She kept walking about the room. She seemed too uneasy to sit still. A friend of mine is the genius in music. It is a pity that a man of your ability should remain unknown to the world. It is getting colder and colder during the morning and evening. The leaves of the trees will soon turn red or yellow. I have a car, and I like it very much. A car is convenient, to be sure, but, in the end, it will prove expensive. My father is a hard working man. One night he came home very tired and sad. We had a lot of snow about this time last year. But we have no snow this year. "I have a terrible toothache." "You should see a dentist at once." My girlfriend didn't go to yesterday's party. We missed you very much at the party yesterday. We had a very good time. "Does your watch keep good time?" "No, it gains ten minutes a day." My brother is polite. He behaved himself so as not to give offence to others. I have two friends who are musicians. Both musicians understood one another perfectly, and had a mutual respect for each other.
>>379 Thank you for the offer, but it's OK. I was not so desperate. I just wanted you guys who have free time at hand to give me some feedback.
>>383, >>396 Thank you very much for the corrections. I know it's not an easy job to proofread someone's writing because sometimes it's a lot more easy for you to change the whole sentense altogether instead of correcting parts of it with the original wording alomost intact.
I compare my original writings to corrected ones. Your corrections shed a light on my writing and give me lots of usuful ideas about how to write natural English.
As for spelling mistakes, that's partly because I didn't proofread my writing. The point of writing these three essays (I'm not sure if you can call them essays or not, though. Maybe too short to call them essays.) was to express my ideas about a given theme as quickly as possible right off the bat.
Right after I read each of these themes, I started tapping my key board. This practice is useful when you take an English proficiency test called Eiken. On Eiken Grade One test, you have to take an interview test where you have to make a two minuite speech about one theme.
You enter a room and flip over a sheet of paper where five themes are written. You have just one minute to choose one of them and organize your thoughts, and then you make a speech about the theme you pick up for two minutes. Organizing your speech in your head just for one minute is not easy.
I already passed the test but somehow I wanted to try practicing expressing my ideas about a given theme to measure how quickly I can respond to it. Anyway, writing these three essays weren't homework, so don't worry, 米人.
The only female CEO I know in the US is the former Hewlett Packard's CEO. Probably Hilary Clinton wil be the next US president.
>403 I am seven hundred years old. Please put out your cigarette. If you want to speak to me, please call me up. Some day you will come to realize the importance of saving. If you are to know about the real world, it can only be by inferring things about it from the appearances. The best way to master English composition is to keep a diary in English. Don’t forget to write to your parents at least once a month.
As I was free yersterday for the first time in years, I enjoyed playing tennis with my friends. After we played tennis, a man came to an old man and said, “You can’t go home yet. You are to stay here till the police arrive.” And he said to us, “All you have to do is write your name and address here.” Who was he? I could not find my brother, who was to meet me at the station. His plan seemed to be too difficult, but before long it proved to be practicable.
At night, I read a book. I found the book so interesting that I kept on reading it until daybreak. I remember reading the book three times when I was young. Nothing was to be heard except the sound of the waves. Though it looked like rain this morning, it has turned out to be a fine day.
Last but not least, It is against the traffic rule to cross the street while the light is red. Thank you.
>>405 Even I'd have trouble sorting out a mini-speech in only a minute! In English, too.
Back in my school days, we had to do similar in French, German and Spanish, and part of the exam was a mock interview on a random (out of five) topic, which included a similar mini-speech. It was the worst part of the exam. I remember freezing up for an entire minute during the French one...
>>407 Oh yeah? That sounds really like the Eiken grade one test. You did take this kind of test in three languages. What a nightmare.
Freezing up is the worst thing you could expect on a test like that. Silence is not golden there. My top priority was to speak anything that popped up in my head. I don't think my speech was well organized. All I did was just to babble the whole two minutes but it worked.
Hey, don't stop the flow of the thread, you fools.
If you weren't sleeping with your eyes open, then you could write something to make here active. Do you happen to be an airhead who can only look at your monitor? Then, there's nothing I can do. lolololo
>>410 Any proposals for discussion topics? Personally, I feel sleepy after eating. I'm more inclined to play some F.E.A.R. multiplayer for an hour, then go to bed.
>>414 I think F.E.A.R is game belonging to FPS(First Person Shooting). "multiplayer" means that many players can kill each other in game on same time and on same field over the network.
>>414>>415 Pretty much, yeah. F.E.A.R. is a game put out by Sierra and Vivendi (I think?) that fits into the FPS category, although it has a bit of a 'survival horror' theme to it as well. The single player game is scary as hell. Multiplay is pretty straightforward, though, just Capture the Flag or Deathmatch, etc.
>>417 I used to play F.E.A.R. multiplayer a bit, some months ago. However, my paws did not fit the keys on the keyboard so well and I gave up. Used the name 'a tiny kitten', so people would feel guilty whenever it said "You killed a tiny kitten". It was fun though.
>>428 Class is usually counted as a period of time while you are doing something; it's a classroom that is a physical place. So you would say 'in class' or 'during class', just as you'd say 'during lunch' or 'during work', for example.
>>434 And the second example has an adjective form too. "She is classy."
There is a slang expression, "In a class by oneself," meaning that one is better than her/his peers at something. It can also be used sarcastically and therefore diminuitively if the person is bad at something.
>>433 It all depends on context, I guess. The dictionary gives 'the period during which a group of students meets for instruction' and 'the meeting of a group of students for instruction' as two separate definitions for "class". You just have to take notice of the context and remember whether to keep or drop the prefix article.
I was born and raised upper-middle class. But now I find myself down and out with absolutely no prospects. When we fall, we fall hard. Fuck social mobility. Allah is Great!!!
>>444 The same applies if you use "work" or "lunch". It is not a unit of time in itself, just a period - just like you don't really specify a number for Christmas (another period).
>>445 As classroom is a normal noun, you still need a prefix article: "in a classroom".
>>447 Sorry, I think I misunderstood. Just trying to work out how to phrase the answer...
By 'unit of time', I mean like a second, a minute and an hour are all units of time. The class (actual meeting of a group of students) can be assigned a length, for example, it might last an hour. Therefore, "class was an hour long".
Hello, my name is Seven Hundred. While cleaning my room yesterday evening, I happened to find an old photograph of my mother. I have a brother. I am on good terms with him. He always keeps his word and is relied upon by everybody. A man lives next door to me. He is a wicked man. He often fails to keep his promises. Our university building is now under construction on a hillside in the north of Fukuoka city.
I had an appointment with my business partners. I took the train to meet them, but The train was behind schedule, so I could not reach my destination on time. I wanted something cold to drink because I felt thirsty. I found a vending machine, so I put the money in, but the can of juice will not come out. The vending machine must be out of order. At last, I got to my destination. They were there. Seeing me, they suddenly stopped talking. Would you mind waiting another ten minutes? Get off at the next stop and take a bus to the airport. A slip of the tongue often brings about unexpected results. The damage amounted to five million yen. Thank you.
However, it is almost the same issue as 'lunch'. We use the prefix article ('a' or 'the') only when we speak about a material lunch: "I packed a lunch today". When lunch is in the time period context, we would still say "during lunch".
If you want to talk about a specific class you go to, you could say "I have a French class today", and that would cover a period of class. So to answe your question... yes.
And on a totally different topic, I did my weekly bedsheet washing again today but, as usual, forgot to make the bed again until 1:00am. I hate doing that. There's nothing quite like laying in a fresh bed though.
>>453 That's right - "in" is important because a classroom is a physical object, so there has to be some sort of article in front of it.
As for laundry, it's usually used as a plural, so it's more correct to say "do laundry", just as you would say "chase ducks" or "lick stamps". If you are talking about a specific batch of laundry, however, you could say "do the laundry".
"I do laundry many times a week." "I wash light coloured clothing separately. I do that laundry on Fridays."
>>456 Thanks a lot again. I didn't know that it was a plural. I thought it was uncountable for a long time. Now it makes more sense. I appreciate it. I hope you sleep well.
>>450 I'm enjoying your stories very much. I'm not sure why I find them so compelling, but I do.
In other news, the grammar police caught up with me today. Misuse of the subjunctive tense; let off with a warning. I was sitting with my Japanese teacher, in the coffee shop where we have our lessons. I should note that whereas I am a rather plain middle-aged woman, my teacher is quite young and cute. One of the kanji I had to learn for today was [野球] (baseball), so naturally we started discussing the fortunes of the Red Sox. I told her that they had made the playoffs, but I didn't know when they would play the first game. Well, that gave the young man sitting at the next table the "in" he needed. "Excuse me," he said, "the next game will be tomorrow. And," he continued, turning to me, "you said, 'If I was' which is wrong; you should have said 'If I were...'" I wasn't sure how to respond to that, so I just smiled a little and we continued on with the lesson. Maybe I should stop taking Japanese and study my English.
Sensei, this man is no good for you. With his nit-picking attitude, he can't make you happy.
Be careful! That man must have been interested in not you but Sensei who is quite young and cute. But by now may be she's been already going out with him. You're too late! lol.
>>455 Sorry, I was busy for a while. Well, I always say "Do laundry" when talking about myself. My mother says "Do the laundry." It's a normal chore for her.
Most doers of laundry won't be thinking about the finer details of grammar when talking about it.
>>461 I know he was after her! He's that type! Hopefully not her type though.
For those of you who enjoy acoustic guitar music, there is the most amazing amateur musician on Youtube who goes by the name of "Fretkillr". Yes, I know most of the homemade videos on Youtube are garbage, but this guy is really good. I can't stop watching his clips. Here is a sample, an old English (?) folk tune, "Greensleeves": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTr3Xt3eNcY
>>462 Thanks for responding. Anyway, I understand what イギリス人 meant. It's more general when there is no article to it just like his other examples. Thanks all.
>>468 I don't get good impressions about them. They might be victims of commercialism.
There used to be a band calld 'Hanson." I was worried about them. I was relieved to know that they had taken a rest for years. I heard the news they started their band activity again. It's all right because they are already gorwn up now.
When you look at the example of Micheal Jackson, you can say kids in very early age in commercial activities is going down the road of perishment.
Hello, my name is Seven Hundred. Japan has caught up with Europe and America in medicine. The government should do away with these regulations. It is not wise, nor in the long run, is it kind, to tax the thrifty for the wasteful. I have a friend whose name is Thomas. I was looking forward to the day when I could see him for the first time in five years. Thomas could not carry out his task on account of an accident. He said,"I will make up for the lost time by working as hard as I can. It is hard to find a place to eat where you can keep your overcoat on." Frankly speaking, it was difficult for me to make out what he was saying. Betty is a coworker. She came very near to being run over by a car. She looked down on the secretaries she had worked with. My friend Tom has been in his room for three days. When I visited him, he said,"You can go on a picnic if you like, but as for me, I prefer to stay at home and read a novel." When I came back home, I thought of his condition. He is slowly recovering from his illness. I hear he is to go abroad to study as soon as he graduates from school. Many young people in the country long for city life. But city life isn't very good. Thank you.
haha nuthing just fonny bu' I can't laugh at all cuz Im similar to neet now. I am a highschool student but I think my school is pretty sucks so I dicided not to go these days. it is sucks and too far.
>>463 It's certainly English, you're right. The story goes that Henry VIII composed it himself, for love of his future wife, Anne Boleyn (who he later - lovingly - had beheaded) who, for a while, rejected his advances. However, I think this is really just a myth and the composer will remain anonymous.
No. she felt homicidal jealousy towards her Sensei but managed to snap out of it by changing the subject to the grammar mistake she made. I am proud of 米人.
But if we rock out to such a degree that the entire fabric of time and space is fractured by such rocking out and begins to unravel, then we could. We would need lots of copies of Guitar hero, though.
I love the way things are done here in Japan and the way these people think I teach adults at an institute here in Tokyo, and the Policies Of President, while many don't agree with them, definitely make me feel proud to be a white man. Japanese, Japanese-Canadian and Japanese-American teachers at this fine institue cannot get the same full time contract as the superior white teachers, even though they have same qualifications and speak English just as well as us white people. We also get paid more per class, get benefits such as airfare reimbursement, medical insurance , severance pay, housing allowance, and rental deposit. and the list goes on...
You Japaneses love reinforcing the fact that white people will always be superior to you Asians... so many tanks to the president of the great company I work for...
No. You are not white. You are just lumped in with white. But your skin colour is not white. You are dark skined, even darker than japanese. lol And look at your frizzy hair.
You are portuguese decent. You are no better than iranians and pakistani. lol
On top of that, You are Jew. All jews are non white. Not about the skin colour. Your origin and your inside are not white. Color of avarice and selfishness. lol
A tank is a tracked armoured combat vehicle designed to engage enemies head-on, using direct fire from a large-caliber gun and supporting fire from machine guns.
I'm Slim Shady, yes I'm the real Shady All you other Slim Shadys are just imitating So won't the real Slim Shady please stand up, please stand up, please stand up?
>>465 "Drivin to California"??? Oh man, it's not that they're bad or anything, but I just can't stop laughing--those kids are years away from getting their driver's licenses.
>>484 You may be right, maybe this guy's mission is to rid the world of bad grammar and other assorted evils. Or maybe he wanted to look good in front of Sensei. Either way, if he shows up again, I'll be sure to use "irregardless" in a sentence, and send him over the edge. >>485 But I like Sensei! She is a great Sensei!
>>506 I just looked at the video for that song, since I'd never heard of it, and all I can say is yuck. I need an antidote..my latest obsession...what is it about guys that can play guitars? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fZNRqzXuZ4
What is young men's take on Eminem like now? Is he still considered to be cool or is he just a history and forgotten now? I know he is working as a producer with Dr. Dre to produce other rappers, such as 50 cent and sometimes featured in their album.
Since he realesed the album, Curtain call, I guess he won't release his own new album anymore.
I wonder why Vanila Ice is looked down on. Was it becasue he just imitated Black rappers style just on surface while Eminem is a real Macoy, having hanging around with black people in his scool days and even black people acknoledge him as their buddy?
>>510 As far as I'm concerned, he was never really cool. However, he's been missing from the music scene here for quite a few years now. I have a friend who used to really like him and have posters of him all over her room. But that obsession is over now and she's moved onto Ando Masanobu (I know he's not a rapper, or even a musician).
I think Vanilla Ice was mocked mainly because of his extreme 'white guy' image. He never looked like some kid from the streets trying to make it; he's always been a white guy with expensive clothes, and stupid hairstyles. He did well initially though. However, you know a celebrity is past it when they appear on TV shows such as 'The Farm' and 'Celebrity Bull Riding Challenge'.
>>508 Tell me 5 reasons why she apeals so much to you. Is she fluent in English? How did you get to know her. (I thought you touched on it a little before.)
I have seen a foreigner giving an English lesson at a cafe like Starbucks here in Japan, too. Actually, there are companies that introduce English teachers to Japanese English learners.
Their sales pitch is like, you can learn English face to face with a native English speaker in a friendly atmosphere. Lesson plan is customoised depending on your English level.
I think I understand why that appeals to some English learners, especially to young ladies. They think, "yeah, it sounds cool that a White give me a personal English lesson in a stylish cafe."
The lesson style sure gives you an opprtunity to speak with a native English speaker, but that isn't enough to improve your English. If you really improve your second language, it takes grind work and continuas efforts that don't sound cool at all and is really tough.
Taking lessons in a cafe for just a 1hour a week gets you nowhere. More often than not, gals who takes in a cafe lesson think learning English as just a fashion. Talking (In most cases they are not good enough to be described as talikng, they are just saying one word or two at a time) with a native "WHITE" English teacher in a cafe satisfiess their worship to White. Maybe other customers in a cafe give them frequent glances and that makes gals think it cool to learn English even more.
Anyway, If you really want to improve your Japanese, cafe lessons aren't far less sufficient. I know moms like you who have to juggle many things have no time to study on your own at home, though.
>>511 >As far as I'm concerned, he was never really cool.
Maybe that's because you are from a wealthy family and can't empathise with him? Wow. Ando Masanobu and Eminem don't have anything in common. lol She must be like you, who is interested in Japan. I can't imagine average Brits know of Japanese actors, including Ando Masanobu.
The reason why I think Eminem is great is
1) He is white but is accepted in Black community. No white rappers aren't accepted by black people as much as he is.
2) He made it to success and became a m(b?)illionare from nothing. He is the rapper who sells most Rap CDs even though he is white.
3) His rap isn't just about bad mouth. After all, I don't think lyrics just full of cuss words sell. His rylicks has humors in them. He challeged taboos using his rylicks with humors. He challenged established social values.
One more thing, I think Eminem is great as I wrote, but I wouldn't want my kids to listen to songs like that full of cuss words If I became a parent. lol
>>513 But if the teacher and student agree on a topic to discuss in advance, the student will have the time to prepare for the conversation the next time they meet at a cafe, that way, at least, meaningful conversation should be possible, instead of just exchanging greetings and 'what did you do last week' kina thing.
>>517 I agree. That way, you can make the most of this type of lesson. but gals who take this kind of lesson think English as a fashion and don't prepare for the next lesson. Their attitude in general is too passive and they are like baby swallows who takes it for granted that their teacher searchs for food and put itin their mouth directly.
They just think 60 minute lesson in a cafe makes a difference to their English.
>>515 I'm not saying I dislike him - after all, it is somewhat admirable to be able to make a name for yourself after having a hard upbringing in an underprivileged family and environment. And you're also right that some of his songs do have some wit to them, rather than just being about shooting people or about prostitutes. However, rap just isn't really my taste in music.
And I must also admit that I quite like his song 'Dream On', which also includes samples from the Aerosmith song of the same name.
>>515 And just another note about Ando Masanobu... my friend only really became a bit obsessed after I made her watch Battle Royale (she used to make fun of my liking of foreign movies before that).
"He challenged established social values"? Every stupid hack in the music industry, especially in rap, does that. He doesn't do anything. Singing about something doesn't even raise awareness on a topic, it just romanticises it. It's funny how you never hear of these struggling down on their luck rap heroes going back to help their communities once they make it big - they just keep singing about how hard life is for them.
You also said that his humour helps his subject. I therefore propose we write a hilarious song about a child rape, to challenge social values and raise awareness on a social taboo.
"There once was a little girl from nantucket. Her daddy told her not to tell anyone where he stuck it. To just put it in her mouth and suck it." *Drum solo*
>>523 Maybe I said too much. He can't rap about how hard his life is now that he is rich. Maybe he has nothing to rap abou anymore. There's nothing to attack by his rap anymore. And his age. He is over thirty now and apeals less to teenagers. He has to behave.
There sure was something in him that appealed to the young. He was a spokesperson who was good at catching the atmosphere of the time. If he rapped your lyrics it could have been populoar.
A 31-year-old man expressed remorse Tuesday for storming an office and smashing 22 computers with a truncheon in a rampage triggered by an unopened gift.
The former part-timer at an online clothing sales company in Osaka's Kita Ward admitted at the Osaka District Court that he became enraged when he discovered that his ochugen summer gift had not been opened by the president of the company.
We don't need eminem to be big. We can be like those fags on myspace and become big on the internet! The music video should have actual lolicon, you know, for authenticity purposes.
>>522,524 That's a good example of music I really dislike. Without the video, some parts of the song make me cringe. With the video... well... there are just no words for it.
>>533 You're right, sometimes I wish I could dance around in a shirt and panties, and other times I wish I was just like Vanilla Ice. My dreams might come true one day.
Anyway, on the topic of what >>527 posted, what sort of gifts would an employee give to their company president? And does the company president give gifts to his employees?
>>531 Your reaction is like that of parents. Judging from your reaction, you don't want to make friends with the type of the guys in the videos, do you.
I have a question for the Japanese people in this thread: Do you use Kana Input when typing Japanese, or Romaji Input? I heard that most people just use romaji, but wouldn't direct kana input be faster?
>>536 I want to know your honest opinion about Marc Almond. I know you are not gay, and I won't label you even if you don't dislike him.
Marc Almond just came across my mind because his move is very akward and static, just spreading his arms a little and posing. .Still very narcissistic and self-complacent. Very Contrary to black people. Marc and the people like him are not good at dancing, but very confident... These moves are very British to me.
>>539 I use Romaji, too. I don't know why. You have to remeber only 26 key positions from a to z with Romaji input while you have to remeber far more with kana input from あtoん.
As 540 says, It would take far more time to type with kana input, too becasue I don't remeber which hiragana is where. But It would be faster to type if I remembered all hiragana's positions.
To be honest, I want to type with kana input because I feel kind of odd typing with romaji input. It's ridiculous that when you write ひ you have to type h and i. ひ is ひ. ひis never h and i. So I want to type ひ with kana input but I am lazy enought not to remember kana's key positions.
>>542 I do have a keyboard with all kana printed. But I'd have to look for each kana since I'm not familiar with where they are. I tried it once but I gave it up before I could finish even one sentence.
Thanks for your answers! Seems like it would be worth learning the kana layout. Aren't there programs that can help teach yourself how to type in kana?
>>512>>513 5 reasons why I like Sensei? Here goes: 1. She's a native Japanese speaker. 2. She's a good teacher, who explains things to me that I don't understand, and also tells me the more usual way to say things. The textbook we are using, from the "Japanese for Busy People" series, is written primarily for people doing business in Japan, and of course focuses on more formal styles of speaking and writing. 3. She pushes me to speak more in Japanese, often beyond my comfort level, but I'll never learn if I don't try to do so. The textbook lessons and grammar practice I can do on my own at home, but not conversation practice. 4. Her family back in Japan used to host foreign students, and her mom taught them Japanese, so she has a good feel for common mistakes English speakers make. 5. For everything she does, her lessons are incredibly reasonably priced.
Outside of class, I would like to spend about an hour a day studying or practicing reading Japanese. But this month has been terribly busy for me, so I haven't met my goals. The cafe set up was not my first choice; I had enrolled in a group class that was cancelled at the last minute because not enough people signed up. But now that I have experienced it, I like the cafe set up! (I am also a caffeine addict).
As for the Real Slim Shady video, the main thing that freaked me out was when Eminem was supposedly a fast food worker and he spit in some lady's onion rings before serving her. That happens to be one of my paranoias: restaurant workers spitting in your food. Ugh.
North Korea's film-fiend leader Kim Jong Il received DVDs of popular South Korean dramas Wednesday from his South Korean counterpart, Roh Moo-hyun, as a gift prior to their summit talks.
The collection of DVDs included "Dae Jang Geum," a serial costume drama about a female courtier-turned-physician in medieval Korea, and "Winter Sonata," a romantic drama, both of which were aired in Japan and were wildly popular.
Lee Young Ae, who played the title role for "Dae Jang Geum," is said to be Kim's favorite actress. Kim reportedly thanked the South Korean president for the gift of DVDs, which also included South Korean films.
Roh also gave Kim a lacquer folding screen inlaid with mother-of-pearl, a set of teacups with a pattern of mukuge (Rose of Sharon) flowers and tea harvested on the southern island of Jeju. (Oct. 4, 2007)
If you want to type down faster what is alredy witten, kana is better. The Number of typing will be less with kana. But we have to memorize more keys and move fingers in wider space. It's a bit clumsy.
>>541 Before that video was posted in the last thread, I'd never actually heard of him. However, his songs seem typical of British pop music in the late 80s. His dancing and videos are very different, especially 'Ruby Red'. Though he does seem very stiff- posed and awkward, he is very confident. I think to have had songs with such blatent homosexual themes for that era, he would have to be confident. As for my own personal opinion on him, I can't say I dislike his music, but it's not something I would normally listen to either. 80s music I enjoy is either rock, or just really melodic and somewhat cheesy pop (the kind of acts which influenced Kawase Tomoko for her february6 act). And, of course, Sting and Belinda Carlisle.
It's interesting that you would think of this style as British, but after thinking about the ways other countries do it, I can see why. Just hadn't really thought about it before.
They seem not good at dancing and basically standing still, some waving their arms. rarely changing expression on their face except first one. I don't have comprehensive knowledge about British culture. Just my guess and impression from my poor experience. And I can't say I'm a big fan of british music either. I know little. But Britich music seem to fit in me better than American music. American music is more aggressive and loud and too outward in my opinion. And Yes I can't dance. LOL
At first I thought it was 80's music or men at work(Follower of police in 80's)lol. This song is pretty similar to Police's master piece song 'every breath you take". If it was a song from japanese band, a band would be severely bashed in japan, I think. So I am not comfortable with Maroon 5's try. They seem to be making excuse or explanation. But They have to do in any case because everyone will notice the resemblance.
Any way It's a good thing that More melodic and good song in normal sense are grabbig heart both in America and the UK. People are getting enough of Gangstarap or boy bands.
I have some questions for the native English speakers here. Do you visit any other boards in 2ch than the English board? If you do, which ones? Do you post there in Japanese?
(・...・) Well, my Japanese isn't good enough. I can barely read any kana. But I think others here are studying Japanese, so they probably visit it to help their studies.
I've heard of some people teaching themselves Japanese entirely from 2ch, Youtube, and web-based dictionaries.
>>559 That's a scary thought, considering the amount of slang being used...
>>558 Once in a while I'll go to another board. I can only read hiragana, katakana, and less than 100 kanji so far, so I can't do much without using my electronic dictionary. The main problem is I don't have enough time to sit around and learn more kanji... but I'm going to try to learn a few hundred more in the next couple of years at the very least.
>>559 It's amazing that some people are actually self taught learners of languages. I met a guy before who speaks almost flawless Japanese but can't read or write. He just picked up all the phrases from his friends' conversations and some videos.
>>560 2ch slang by non-native Japanese speakers in real life.. That would be a suprise.
So... Japanese type in romaji, but they read in kana/kanji. Must be frustrating to learn how to write all those characters in school when you know in the real world you'll only ever have to type a few Latin characters.
>>569 When we type, yes, we use romaji because that way, we eliminate the need for learning both English-way of typing and Japanese-way of typing. But in real life, there are tons of situations where you need to actually 'write' Japanese, and if you cannot write Kanji characters right, you are simply seen as a very uneducated person.
The reason why we japanese mainly use romaji is just because memorizing the key positons of kana is frustrating. We have to memorize nealy 50 key positons. We have to use shift key many times too. For example, ば is a compound of は and ゛. ゛is displayed with shift key. But when it comes to romaji henkan, we just need to memorize only less than 30 key positions.
However, when we master kana henkan, It can be more convenient and easy. i g i r i s u j i n g a s u k i d e s u いぎりすじんがすきです In romaji kenkan, we have to type aproxiamately twice as much as kanahenkan. Main reason why we don't usually use kana is just that we are lazy. Ane some elderly peope prefer kana because they don't know romaji or feel resistant to romaji.
Thanks for your answers. I think I understand better now. I wouldn't really want to learn all those kana positions either. And it's true that you have four horizontal rows of keys to struggle with, instead of three. You would need big fingers to type kana!
Hello, my name is Seven Hundred. I know Angela Kwuelski. She was kept standing in a cold room while being interrogated about her activities. Everybody was anxious to know what had happened. She was seen to run up the stairs with tears in her eyes. The accident was due to the drunken driving of a certain film star. I felt for her. However, We were greatly relieved to find that the worst dangers were over. She is said to have been an actress about twenty years ago. She was beautiful, and she is beautiful.
Last year I returned home and was surprised to find both the village and the people completely changed. The new school buildings are expected to be completed by spring next year. In the country the color of the sky is entirely different from that seen in the city. Kyoto is internationally famous for its scenic beauty. Some people are rather proud of being ignorant of such an important matter. The child must be taught to respect the truth and to tell the truth. From a strictly scientific point of view, history cannot be called a science.
Mother is more anxious about the result of the examination than I am. It is often said that Japanese universities are difficult to enter, but easy to graduate from. I am not the type of person to cut classes. When I pass the exam, I will study hard. We should always be careful of what we do.
Today’s weather forecast says that it is likely to be fine tomorrow. Those who are in delicate health are apt to catch cold when the cold season sets in. Take care! Thank you.
>>582 As much as it pains me to say it, you may very well be right. The sheer ignorance of a great portion of the population here as of late is dumbfounding. A prime example of this is the fact that relatively recently, at a local restaurant, we had a waitress who could not spell the word lettuce. She had to ask another employee as to how to spell such a simple word. It seems more and more that the intelligence gap here is widening. People these days either seem to be fairly intelligent or incredibly stupid... It really makes me wonder where we'll be, thirty or forty years from now. I don't know, personally, if it gets much worse than the waitress situation depicted (as I don't particularly associate with many people locally on a regular basis), but it's kind of scary. Personally, I think it's a combination of the parents and the public schools. Parents from this generation seem to be more liberal with their children; letting them run wild and do whatever they want. Many tend to drop out of school, and get involved with alcohol and drugs on a regular basis. The schools aren't much better - my little sister is learning math now that I learned when I was easily two years younger than her. However, the ones that do make it through high-school and make it to college are usually fairly intelligent. Those that aren't are often weeded out within the first year - sometimes even the first week - of attendance. At least, I can say that much for where I attend. Anyone care to contribute any input on this?
>>548 Thanks for the answer. I wish I had a chance to meet her because reason 6) she is cute.
> "Japanese for Busy People" I've heard this "......for Busy people" series. If I'm not wrong, there's similar series., "......for dumb." I wonder both series are published from the same publisher.
As for the lyrics, He might just tried to get attentions and if he really spitted to a burger is uncertain. That's my take.
>>584 Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers. Socrates (469 BC - 399 BC)
It's the age-old story; today's youth are going to hell. They're lazy, they run wild, they run wild, etc., etc.
Personally, I don't buy it. You can always find alarming examples of youth run amok in any generation. And you can also find examples of kids who do amazing things. And there have always, always been people who are just plain ignorant. Often willfully so. I think if you look over the course of history, the trend is towards an improvement of mankind's behaviors and treatment of one another. Of course, we don't now and never will inhabit a perfect world, but I think we've come a long way even compared to 100 years ago.
TOKYO (AP) -- Japan's Agriculture Ministry reprimanded six bureaucrats for shirking their duties after an internal probe found they spent work hours contributing to Wikipedia - including 260 entries about cartoon robots.
The six civil servants together made 408 entries - on issues unrelated to farm issues - on the popular Web site encyclopedia from ministry computers since 2003, an official said Friday.
One of the six focused solely on Gundam - the popular, long-running animated series about giant robots - to which he contributed 260 times. The series has spun off intricate toy robots popular among schoolchildren as well as adults known as "otaku" nerds.
"The Agriculture Ministry is not in charge of Gundam," said ministry official Tsutomu Shimomura.
The other five bureaucrats mostly focused their contributions on movies, typographical mistakes on billboard signs and local politics, Shimomura said.
>>558 That was my hope, when I first visited 2ch. But I found this thread... When I've gone to visit other random threads, I haven't had much luck. I took forever translating a few posts, only to find out that those were threads where I didn't want to be. And then I got lazy, and stopped looking.
>>579 I can't understand what he is talking about in the first and second paragraph. Angela Kwuelski and kyoto things seem so sudden to me. I ' m a japanese. All foreign people understood what he was saying?
my little sister is learning math now that I learned when I was easily two years younger than her.
The same thing is happening here in japan. That is called ゆとり 教育。more relaxed education policy. The Goverment is veering the policy backway a little though.
And oddly enough, ex bureaucrat who pushed relaxed education policy now is now an trustee of "Korea" International School, which aims at much more class hours and university entrance exams. Perfect traitor in japanese ministry. lol
I don't mean to be rude, but whenever I see someone critisizing government, big companies, and other established authorities, I feel this awkaward feeling.
They just look like people who can only critisize authorities, (sometimes for the critisizing sake) without even trying to make efforts by themselves to make things better. They are just bystandars without getting themselves in matters they critisize.
At the risk of being misunderstood, they sounds like losers. I wonder if I'm the only one who feel that way.
>>603 Okay. You can say whatever you have to say. But the same applies to the other end. I rather think they might provoke a change to happen in the long run. Yes, I am also another trash, baby.
>>526 The same thing goes to Bruce Springsteen? Ex-working class man, now billionaire He seems to be bitching out the republican party now. He is trying to make up for his wealty status. But Everything gets superficial.
>>511 I bet you can't tell which is which, ando masanobu or syunsuke nakamura. Not a syunsuke nakamura you domesticate in your nothern territory. Not an ugly one. I'm refering to this syunsuke nakamura
>>513 You seem to generalize too much. I've seen an elderly man taking a lesson from a mature american lady with glasses in cafe. They seemed to be reading some English literature.
On another hand, I've seen side part haired japanese, geek looking japanese with glasses taking a lesson from a young white woman in cafe of public center. She had big breasts and lowerd her pants to make her butt show a bit. She was not a bitch type, Looked more diligent than her style though.
It was an unnatural, mismatch scene. Was he another George Obara(Kim Sung Jong)?
>>610 Masanobu Ando is in the first image, Shunsuke Nakamura is in the second.
>>588 Japanese for Busy People was the first textbook I picked up too. It was a little sudden and didn't really explain sentence structure until a little later on though. But it is laid out for people who initially only need to know a few phrases. One of the first things the book teaches is how to say "私は弁護士です". It explains things better once you get further into it though.
>>554 I hadn't even heard of Soft Cell before looking Marc Almond up on Wikipedia. Met a friend in town today and had a little discussion about it though, and she was quite familiar with him. I hadn't moved permanently to England until the mid 1990s, so I was out of touch with quite a lot of things. Boy bands were still in fashion back then, but that's all in the past now. Groups who perform with instruments themselves are much more popular these days.
>>614 Thank you for the serious answer. Don't you think ando and nakamura look like each other.
I think nakamura is more famous here in japan. And I probably heard of ando's name. But i am not sure i could associate The name of ando masanobu with his face. So I could have mistaken mistook ando for nakamura.
I'm going to go to karaoke tonight. But I'm tone-deaf. Please teach me how to sing well. It goes without saying that I'm not able to be a good singer in a few minutes... Help me!
I was asked " Where do you recommend me to visit, Nagoya, Matsumoto, or Karuizawa?" by Americans at Narita airport. I had no idea so I just said, "Nagoya is very urban, so I recommend Nagoya." I was so embarassed... I should have learned about Japan ...(>_<) If you're asked the question above , how would you answer?
>>620 I don't know much about matusmoto and karuizawa either. My limited knowledge says that Karuizawa is a summer resort and matsumoto is famous for its castle. So I think nagoya is most probable answer from japanese natives too.
>>621 I'm Japanese. I wonder if Nagoya is a fun place for foreigners... The Americans said they would visit Tokyo, Kyoto, Himeji castle so maybe they'd enjoy an urban city in Tokyo and a historic city in Kyoto and a castle in Himeji, so I wonder Nagoya is worth visiting for them... They would visit Nagoya because of my advice. What's done cannot be undone orz
>>622 I agree... My parents who had been living in Nagoya for 10 years say Nagoya has nothing special except Nagoya castle.
>>623 Don't feel bad. I'm sure if they've never been to Japan before, visiting Nagoya will still be a very new experience for them, and might be exciting.
Talking about Nagoya castle, though, I was pretty disappointed when I first visited it. In Kyoto, the castles are real castles. Nagoya castle is a concrete replica, with a museum interior. I heard the original was destroyed in WW2, sadly.
I wouldn't be able to concentrate on her lesson. Her fashion would distract me. If a few options where I could lick her nipples or something come with her lessons, I would jump on the bandwagon.
>>617 They sort of look alike, though I think that Nakamura has a more defined face. I don't actually know who Nakamura is - the only Nakamura Shunsuke I know is the one who plays football for Celtic.
The Battle Royale movie was very well received in the UK, so most people here would associate Ando with the role of the psychopath Kiriyama Kazuo. However, my friend has most movies with him in it, except for Miike Takashi's recent 'Sukiyaki Western Django'.
You really keep updated with Japanese movies as usual. I know the film, too. All characters speak in English, right? I read an article where one critic says that Kumura Yoshino and one male actor in it speak pretty good English.
Yoshino' father was a pilot and she has lived in UK. If you watch it you may be rocognize whiffs of British accent here and there. The article says one male actor has lived in U.S. for a year. I don't think one year abroad made a big difference to his accent but because other actors English is so terrible that his English sounds better compared to them.
In Japan, we have three consecutive holidays. Holiday?
Nothing to do with me cause for a NEET like me, every day is a holiday, if you know what I mean. I have nothing to do just I'm wasting time here. Staying up late and waking up around noon. Oh my.
This is the life of a NEET. Even NEET needs to sleep so I"ll go to bed now. I jerked off three consecutive days. And maybe tomorrow, no, today after waking up. Even NEET jerks off. Any problem?
>>626 I happened to be with her in the elevator. When I saw her walking toward a rounded-back nerd and sit opposite to him, I got jealous and couldn't stand! lol Why why why? At first I thought he was a undergraduate student or scholor or something. He appeared to be giving advice to a foreign student or talking about international affair. Geek with an attractive young white woman looked unusual. So I tried to suppose his English ability and inteligence helped him.
After a while, I noticed he had been taking a English lesson from her. I got relieved and happy. lol I couldn't hear their voices. But Otakuman seemed not to be distracted by her voluptuous body. He tried to keep on speaking with bashful otaku smile on him. But who could know what he was thinking in his mind? And what was happening under his underwear? Yes he may have taken a glance at her cleavage, pretending not to care.
>>642 "A bit off" means a bit inaccurate. It comes from the phrase "off the mark". The mark is a target, and being off the mark means the target was missed.
>>653 The world is a big place, and people have been all over it for hundreds of thousands of years. For most of that time, oral communication was the only means of transmitting languages, and most people had little contact with peoples from beyond their immediate region.
The development of large, centralized, highly organized and mechanized empire civilizations marked the beginning of unified languages, such as in Mesopotamia, China, India, Persia, Rome, and the Arab world. Over half of today's surviving languages are endangered, and the vast majority of speakers speak only about 6% of total language pool.
>>637 She was probably a stupid wapanese who goes to Japan like on some pilgrimage. You can keep her.
And now you have to be a nerd to think dirty thoughts? God, normal japanese people must have really boring sex.
And, as a general rule, the more ass you can see of a girl, the easier and more loose she is. So if you like girls whose crotch is like a motorway - lots of traffic and very dirty - then I guess it's your lucky day baby!
>>635.636 I stayed at home. Going outside seeing people look happy makes me depressed.
I watch adult websites. I haven't bought any エロ本 for years. I love porn sites that feature amateurs. Professional porn actors don't turn me on. Some websites claim they use amateurs but in reality they don't. It's difficult to distinguish girls on a porn site is amateur or professional porn actor.
I don't like professional porn actors exaggerating アへ声. That's why I prefer amateurs.
Be careful not to get involved in online fraud when watching porn sites.
>>637 I know how you felt. When I see an ugly man and cute girl walking together, I instinctively search for the reason why they are together, like maybe he is a doctor, earns a lot of money or things like that.
>>657 I am not a big fan of dramas oversea. I don't watch TV much in the first place.
Prison Break is/was? aired in Japan. Some people are into it. I don't know if it's aired at the same time as overseas. I mean it may lags behind, being aired some months behind. But if you sign up with cable TV or commercial sattelite channels, you may be able to watch it at the same time with US, not lagging behind.
I read somewhere that the story of season 1 was developed confined to inside jail but that of season 2 is developed outside of the jail, cause some prisoners escaped from it.
>>654 That stimulates my imagination a lot. Thanks for >>653's simple but good question and your answer. So, the languages that could not survive were succeeded into those of new civilizations? I suppose some of them just faded out as the peoples moved out of their regions. Excuse me for my ignorant question.
>>654 You are not a devoted Christian, are you. The reason why there are many languages is because of the tower of Babel. Men made God angry. That's the beggining of the various languages. ^_~
Miller's father "is African-American, Jamaican, English, German" and part Cherokee and Jewish; his mother is Russian, French, Dutch, Syrian, and Lebanese
god damn. But if you were to trace your history, I'm willing to bet you're just as mixed.
For your enjoyment, some amusing place names: De Prick, Netherlands Fanny, France Herpes, France Dong, Germany Willies, France Muff, Ireland The Tits, New Zealand Vagina, Russia Slutvägen, Sweden Slag, Netherlands Minge, France Cock, UK Bum, Afghanistan Nork House, UK Hole, Norway Wank, Germany Rúa de Penis, Spain Anus, France Rectum, Netherlands Willy, France Fucking, Austria Via dei Cunt, Italy Saddle Flaps Rd, Australia Pisse, France Wanker Rd., USA Shit, Iran Wang, Germany Dong, Nigeria Buggery Rd., Australia Aids St, USA
some crazy arse in america shot 7 people. I think it's funny. I'm sorry, but guys from the US, your country is fucked. I mean, in Japan, they talk about one murder for weeks, but in America, they're too busy hunting for some insane pedophile in Vegas to talk about some nut who is trigger happy.
When I grow up, I want to move to America and go on a rampage too :D. It's so boring here in my country. We have too many gun laws and our people in general aren't fucked in the head like you guys.
>>674 Yeah, most shootings in the US only get printed in the local news at most. Most people never even hear about them because they're pretty regular. But not quite as frequent as fatal traffic accidents. Of course it depends where you live. Many places are every bit as safe as Japan.
Didn't someone putting ice cream in a mailbox make the evening news in Japan once? I mean, christ, how lucky are you guys? I'd take a bunch of otaku and black vans yelling shit at you early in the morning over getting shot at by lovesick cops.
>>655 Your hatred and intolerance to my Wapanese sister is saddening. We are a peace-loving people, and our pilgrimages to Akihabara don't harm you or your obnoxious frat-boy friends. I hereby formally present you with a Cease and Desist order. Failure to abide by it will result in us sending the American guy who dresses up as Goku and does Akiba tours to your house to should "bakabaka" through your mailbox for 72 hours straight.
You aren't a peace loving people. You are offensive to the eye. Your piggish squeals of "kawaii" and other wapanese crap are an insult to the very act of living.
I don't have frat-boy friends. I don't mind anime and manga, but I don't feel the need to sqeual about it all the time. Here is *my* ultimatum; how about you cease and desist, or I get a few people together and we go a little "final solution" on your fat fangirl asses.
today i went out for the first time in ten hours,and suddenly a foreign person spoked me.first i embrassed because really suddenly and for the first time like that but i managed to tell him how to go where he wanted to go,probably. he smiled and i feeled happy. on the way home i bought a totoBIG for the third time in my life.
today foreigner guy spok to me on the streat in english. so i punchd him in the face and then gived him my hand say i buy you a beer. he buyed me a beer. a nice guy he was.
>>698 I can speak some Japanese. I can't discuss difficult topics, but I can do normal daily things like ask for directions, go shopping, give simple opinions.
I'm sorry to say, I work for an evil Eikaiwa school right now. How about you? What do you do? And where did you learn to speak English?
I hate those stupid japanese courses that tell you directions. I don't want to go to the damn post office or train station, I want to go to a love hotel! ...By MYSELF.
>>699 im a college student.i studied writing English to go to college. i have never been to Eikaiwa school because i think that to pronounce like American or English or not is not the question. so im not good at Eikaiwa.and i had never talked with foreign people in Engrish.therefore i really embrrassed at that time. my english is all right?
>>703 Yeah, I think your English is good. The most important thing is to communicate your idea, and I don't have any problem understanding you, so you're doing all right.
>>699 tell me damn post office of >>700 means.i told then where the post office is.i think >>700 is not the man who i told the wrong way to the post office.i think told the right way.
Why would a foreign guy want to go to the post office? To get more confused? Or to send a letter to some japanese guy to piss him off when he realises it's in english?
>>705 I really don't think 700 is the same person you talked to today. ^^ Besides, he was talking about Japanese lessons that teach people how to ask for directions (I think), not about real directions he was given.
'damn' is an adjective. You'll need someone in japanese to compare it. It's an expletive to some extent.
It's like saying, in some ways, "I don't want to go to the stupid post office!". In this case, you aren't suggesting that the post office is actually stupid, it's more of a suggestion of how you're feeling.
I'm a native speaker, but I'm not good at explaining. Also, >>700 is meant more of a joke. Sarcasm is hard to understand, but it's common in western talk/humour.
Like 710 is saying, you use 'damn' in front of any noun to express anger.
Normal situation: "I don't want to go to the post office today." I'm feeling angry: "I don't want to go to the damn post office!" --- Normal: "My pen is broken." Angry: "My damn pen is broken!"
>>714 My airsoft rifle is strictly for recreational use, and in no way reflects a deep, hidden desire to dramatically downsize the staff at the local post outlet.
>>727 "French-American" or "Franco-American" is the correct name. I think 723 means that, because relations between France and America are usually not very good, the idea of a French-American is a little unusual.
They must have hormones in the grain. You know, like the steroids used to make chickens bigger. They must have a lot of violent mood swings and temper tantrums.
I thought French American is a common term. Louisiana(terrible spelling.) used to be a French territory, right? Cajun music and food represent French culture back then If I'm not wrong. US bought Louisiana from Napolleon.
Some seem like a story of an encounter of Japanese and a foreign tourist in Japan. So I'll share my story with you.
I was 23 years old back then doing part time job. (Now I am proud to say that I've evolved to NEET. ) After the job I was walking home when a voice came from behind. "Excuse me..."
Back then I tried speaking to foreigners whenever I saw them in town. The man who talked to me from behind had been in my sight, but somehow I hadn't talked to him. I looked back and there was a man around my age.
He was from Seattle. He said he is in architecture business and owns BMW. I was far less fluent in English back then but I managed to communicate with him in English. One thing I feel sorry for him is that I said to him, "You are skinny for American." Skinny was one of the words I just remebered at that time, so somehow the word popped out of my mouth. What I meant to say to him was he was "slim" for American.
I told him I'm doing push ups everyday and he said, " That works." Actually I have great build for Japanese and I was more maccho than him. Just when I said to him he was skinny, I felt kind of sorry because I knew skinny have a negative nuance.
>>758 That's ok! I think he probably got it, especially since you said "for an American" and the typical American is so fat.
I guess "thin" or "slim" would be clearer, but skinny can be more humorous, so long as he isn't actually really skinny or bony like me, but even then they should be able to take a joke.
Your English is quite good, was it part of your NEET training?
Walking along together, we talked. I had been listening to music with my Walkman right before the moment we meet. He asked me what I had been listening and he took earphone and put it in his ear. He said, "I know this song."
He suggested he treat me a dinner. I was glad to hear that. We went to a place where they sereves my town's speciality. I was kind of nervous, too because I had never had a meal with a foreigner. Plus, I wasn't sure I would be able to have a good conversation with him during the meal. I didn't want him to know I'm a boring man.
I wrote that I tried speaking with a foreigner when I saw him/her in town back then but actually all I was doing was just giving them directions.
While having a meal, I found myself in a corner. I didn't have much to talk with him. He asked, "Are you scared?" I answered, "of course not." But to be honest, I was a little shaking at that time. He may have noticed that. He has blue eyes, which is a distinctive feature as a "gaijin" or a foreigner and sitting next to him and having a meal with him is kind of unealistic and I felt kind of awkward.
>>759 While we're making generalization against people, let me further add all English people have rotten teeth, Jews are very rich, the French are rude and cowardly, Muslims like to wear bombs, and Canadians live in igloos and wear beaver pelts all year around.
>>759 Thanks for the comment. I hope I didn't offend him.
This story still goes. It takes a lot of time to write in English so I don't know what time I get this story done. I need a few more posts to end the story.
Typical, adj. - pertaining to, of the nature of, or serving as a type or emblem; symbolic.
Come on, you know it's true. If you were going to cast a "typical American" wouldn't you want to make him fat? Of course there is an older, wartime stereotype of Americans being highly athletic, blond, go-get-em type entrepeneurs, Kind of like a Nazi, but less polite, I don't know if it holds much contemporary validity.
We finished a meal there. I wasn't sure if he enjoyed having a meal with me.
The day we met was his first day in my town. He had stayed with his Japanese frined in Tokyo. He told me he enjoyed Tokyo very much, especially its night life with his friend. He was expecting the same kind of night experiences in my town, too.
He said to me, "take me one of the places where you usually hang out." I understood what he meant. He wanted to enjoy the night as he had in Tokyo. Bar hopping, clubbing or whatever as long as young people gathe. The problem was I had no friends to hang around with, not to mention at night.
I didn't know what bar is where, which club is where. I was driven in a corner but didn't want him to notice that. He had a tourist guide book of Japan with him so I said to him, "let's go to a place your guide book has some info about."
In the list of the guidebook, there was a karaoke bar. There was a map, too. I picked up the nearest karaoke bar and took him there. The moment we enter the place, we found out that it wasn't a place for the young. Once you enter the place we couldn't get out of there at once so we sat side by side and ordered some snacks.
We didn't have much to talk about anymore so most of the time we watched a monitor where lines of lyrics of Karaoke come and gone. I thought he wasn't enjoying the palce. I was not in the mood for singing. What's the point of being in a karaoke bar if you don't sing? We decided to get out of there.
He looked a bit dissapointed and I was sorry for not meeting his expectations of having a blast as he did in Tokyo. I wanted to go home because I didn't have much to talk with him anymore and couldn't stand the feelings that I'm a boring man. But I felt obligated to take him to a good place where young people gather and enjoy the night.
So I decided that after I take him a place like that, I would say him a good bye leaving him alone. I thought if I take him such a place, I wouldn't have to stay with him anymore because he would find someone to keep his company there.
(cont.) After we left the karaoke bar, we hit the guidebook again searching for another place. I definately wanted to take him a nice place. There were many bars and clubs in my town listed in the guide book but we couldnt't tell which is the best place, which caters to what age group and all that.
I was confused. He said again, " Just take me where you always hang around." I thought to myself, "not again. I don't do bar hopping clubbing and partying." But I couldn't tell him that. If I had told him so, it would have been like putting a poster on my face that reads I am a boring man. That was the least I wanted.
So I randomly picked up one bar, saying to him, "This place sounds nice. Plus, it's near where we are now. Lets go." It was really close to where we stood together. It was supposed to just a few minuite walk away from there. Before we go there, I called the place to know exactly how we could get there. A man on the other line gave me a detailed direction to get there. ---- smoking time... brb.
We started walking together side by side with silence. I was hoping the place is bustling and full of young people enjoying the night.
We arrived at a building that the bar was supposed to be in. That was a kind of an old building and I had an uneasy feeling. We climbed the stairs feeling nervous. I don't remember what floors it was on but anyway, in a few minutes we were standing in front of the bar.
He opened the door and no sooner than he did it, I recognized he was entering the wrong place. It was a narrow small bar with a counter and a row of worn chiars against it and just a few tables and chairs. It was a shabby place with just one or two middle-aged customers and dim light.
I thought to myself, "Oh my, you are just stepping into the least expected place. Stop right there!" But it was too late. The bartender said to him, "いらっしゃいませ!" The man from Seattle looked back at me. I couldn't find a word to say to him. He looked like staying calm. I may have sensed a confused expression on his face, or maybe not.
One thing was for sure. I took him to the wrong place again. I didn't know what to do. I could have taken him out of there right at the moment and looked for another place. But to be honest, I was exhausted and wanted to have someone else take care of him.
But I knew the bartender and a few middle-aged customers weren't the right people. The man from Seattle wanted to enjoy the night as he had in Tokyo. I thought to myself, "What should I do? I'm in a jam!"
asamo hayokara heaa- no midare wo sesseto sesseto totonoeru ore ni onnna ha iranaize (hurarehurareta sannbyakuninn♪) ore ha su~pa~suta~a~~~ rokkunn roora---
It was just when I was thinking about my next move that he said, " OK, thank you. You can go now." I tought to myself, "You decided that you would drink here? But isn't this place.....?"
I was thinking about what to say to him. I knew he wouldn't enjoy here. But all I could say to him was, " I enjoyed talking with you. Enjoy your stay in *****." (***** is the place where I live.) with an awkward smile.
I climbed down the stairs, feeling guilty. That was all I could do at that time but I said to myself, "I'm sorry. I'm really sorry!!!" Climbing down the stairs, I blamed myself, feeling depressed.
I wonder how he spent the night after we said goodbye, being in a place with the middle-aged men and the bartender who, chances are, don't speak English. I wonder if he managed to find a hotel or an inn to stay at that night?
Seattle man, I am far better at English now than I was and I could talk with you more about various subjects in English if we met now. But I have to admit that I'm still a boring man. By the way let me drive your BMW if we met again.
>>774 Some people are eager to talk with people overseas in English, especially if they are studying English.
Actually, I've heard some storys in which foreign people get annoyed because Japanese people talk to them in English in a train, on the street, even though the foreigners understand Japanese.
Japanse who are curious and studying English want to try if they can make themselves understood in English.
Some people who are not good at English avoid foreigners because they don't want to expose that they can't speak English well after studying for years at school.
All in all I think Japanese people are friendly to "Western" people. I would take you a shabby bar where middle-aged men sing karaoke. ;)
>>779 I'm a guy. I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean. Got a go now. Hope you enjoyed the story. As I said, I used to talk to a foreigner who are looking at a map in my town. At one time I was given a small gift as a token of gratitude when saying a goodbye. Maybe next time.
No..!!!!!! You put lots of snow in a flying-pan, make the snow hard and flat, then pour maple syrup on the snow, making a shape of animals, stars, etc. This way, you can make delicious maple syrup candy!!!
So, what do you guys think about file sharing, for music for instance? Do you think it's simple stealing, or do you think we've entered a phase in which information can no longer be monopolized the way it used to, and we should change our definitions?
This woman is being sued for $222,000 (\26,019,527.06) by the RIAA for illegal file sharing. She lost the initial case but she is appealing with the help of a team of ambitious lawyers to try to stop the RIAA's anti-piracy practices. http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9791383-7.html?tag=tb
Since she can't possibly afford the expenses, she's set up a site to try to raise money, with some interesting discussion about the issue, between pro-piracy populists, conservatives, and record company stooges trying to descourage donators. http://www.freejammie.com/
It seems like my little bro and his friend (who was he nitially used as a sex toy) became a real couple these days. I think they finally confirmed their love recently. She trust him and he trust her. That's a good thing. But the weird thing is that he stalks one another lady still now. She is older than him. She seems very busy career woman while he is a bored student. She called our house and told my mom about the fact that my bro has been stalking her days and nights. She is very busy and tired so that she wants to relax at home but he calls her and appeared her house and say an obscene things so we got angry and warned him not to stalk her anymore. But still he does. But why does he stil do that even he has an officially approved girl friend in his life? It's so hard for me to understand his mind. He said he is enjoying doing it. Isn't it wasting time and energy?
>>791 Yikes! I guess your brother's just going to have to grow up. But it might be bad if his girlfriend finds out, in which case he'll learn the hard way.
Stupid men and sex. He should be able to just masturbate and focus on his girlfriend. Masturbation should be mandatory.
>>792 masturbation? he has his gf that he initially used as a sex toy. he sleeps with her all the time. so my question is this. even though he is satisfied both mentally and physically, why he still stalks the other woman who doesn't give him anything. (she's busy. she does not go out with him. she has no interests in my bro).
I am a native speaker of English who is studying Japanese. I don't think this is the right thread, but would it be possible to ask a question about how to say something in Japanese? Or is there a more appropriate thread where I could probably get help?
>>793 Hrmmm... that's tough. Looks like both your brother and your friend are out of luck. This sort of thing is good for no one. Has the other woman regected him yet? I'm not sure if even that would stop him though. This is a tricky one. I guess your brother is just stupid and it can't be helped.
>>794 This is the right thead for asking any language realted question. There is also another thread called something like "hey native speaker, come on and help us!". I think both will do. BTW, what is your question?
>>795 that's not my friend. my bro's friend (sefure)became his gf now. of course, the lady (the one my bro has been stalking) is strongly rejecting him. She even said she reported this case to the police. what should I do? my mom is really scared if my bro would be caught one day. All he should do is to stop. that's all, but how should I convince him?
(-_-)? hrmmmm... does he have any nasty secrets he wouldn't want to reveal to the lady in question you can threaten him with? Dunno, honestly this guy sounds like an idiot, no offense. Can you really reason with an idiot, I wonder?
>>794 There used to be the most appropriate thread for that type of question, but it is no longer available. If there was enough demand, it could be possible to make one again though. In the meantime, you can ask here, I guess.
sweet jesus. What a load of crap that video was. I'm starting my own religion. Who should I worship? Apollo doesn't seem to bad. Who else should be in my list of things to worship?
So I hear the Playstation 3 is getting another price cut. 44,980 yen (US$384; €273)
I'm kind of hoping this console recovers, because the ps2 was awesome. But there have got to be better games is all. It isn't difficult to beat the Wii in terms of game quality, but the Xbox is a bit tougher, although I don't think the Xbox sells very well in Japan, am I right?
Please someone,give a solution to my probrem my friend who might be bisexual wanna hang around much with me and then there's my big matter that recently somewhat Im gonna be attracted to him even though i hate to be because i wanna have my familly Is it worth being with him for my future?
In Japan, some kids fart in front of people to make everyone laugh. This type of kids is kind of like a comedian type. If I'm right, this kind of kids is called class clown in English.
During lunch time or time between classes when kids gather and talk, some kids fart intentionally to make everyone laugh. I don't know about kids nowadays but at least when I was a kid, there were this type of kid.
What about in your country? Do kids in your country fart to make everyone laugh? I heard in U.S. Burping in public is considered to be worse than farting. Am I right?
I'd appreciate it if you tell me where you are from. Thanks.
No, no, farting is still worse, because it smells. I'm sure in most schools you can find kids farting for fun, but they would probably be scolded by the teacher, because farting is gross for everyone around.
This reminds me of that movie by Ozu Yasujiro, where the kids press each-other's foreheads to make eachother fart.
>>822 Ohhhhhh. So situation is the same as Japan. Yeah, if a teacher is near by, they'll scold the kid here, too.
But in Japan, you can see a professional comedian fart on TV to make everyone laugh. That's rare but I have seen some did that. I suspect we are more tolerant to fart.
>>824 There's something like a proverb in Japan. That is "Your own fart doesn't smell," meaning if someone around you farts, it smells bad as it does and feel disgusted, but if you fart, it feels like it doesn't smell as bad as it actually does. It's something like self justification.
I know it's SVC. Is "there have got to be better games" strange? If I get inversion sentence back to normal, it'll be "better games have got to be there". "Better games have got to be there is all" ? But "there" seems like a Suject too.
>>833 it doesn't hurt, but I don't think it's necessary.
Sorry I wasn't more clear. "...is all." in this case is a casual way of shortening a longer phrase, like "...is all I mean" or "... is all I have to say about it".
It's used as a conversational way of quickly summing up an argument. like: "I don't mean to say you're a bad driver, I just think you should be looking at the road is all." It's something you might say, but probably not write, which is why it looks strange.
>>842 there are more good looking guys in Korea than in Japan. horipuro is a powerful agent that's why this soso guy get a big role, is that what you mean? His grouchy face appeals girls a lot. his lips are cute.
>>846 I generally agree with you, but Kim Basinger still looks pretty sane to me. We would at least have to admit that there are execptions, after all.
>>867 no it is easy. I would practise typing and massaging same time, while I am in an army. I got possible to do it all too soon. My friend of the army colled me "the legend of self generation".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8_rvR7ykoI Long time No see, Debbie Gibson. I saw her for the first time in a long while. The second blonde woman from the left is Gibson. She starts to sing after 1:19.
>>870 Ok. I recommend you challenge to massage with the left hand while typing with the right hand. you should pay attention to surroundings not to be found by your mother.
She was not like a woman with tatoo and looked more intelligent than she wore though.
Nobody blatantly looked her. But she was really eye-catching and breath-taking, a rare type in japan. So many people must have noticed her, but pretended to be unaware.
And I can say I may be one of nerds. But look better than him. lol
>>875 It must have taken lots of time to find those images that matches the English teacher's clothes. Good job. I wouldn't be able to concentrate on her lesson, destracted by her sexy outfit.
>>879,880 Sorry for confuse! Trying to play along because that man Lee was American general with English ancestor. I pretend not to know whether Korean or Chinese though he is west European in look.
So, I've been thinking about getting a life. What kind of lives do you have? What would you recommend for a NEETish Freeter like me? Seems like it's really easy to buy all sorts of things on the internet, but there isn't a big market for lives. You'd think somebody would come up with a method for marketing that sort of thing.
I'm a washed up NEET too, but I don't need no life. NO job, NO girl, NO money, NO NOTHING. All I have is my precious 29 year old male virginity. Thanks a lot, God!!!
I'm thinking of becoming a NEET. How do you leave home from your parent's house and support your NEET lifestyle? Maybe I should be one of those losers who goes to japan to teach english.
I go to university, but I hate it. Everyone there is so dumb, and I hate it because it's just like school. All you do is write stupid essays for assignments and for your exams, and there is nothing stimulating about being there. I want to go to art school and get paid heaps of money for doing "modern art" - just draw a bunch of stupid squiggles on canvas and say it's about deep emotions or something dumb like that.
>>893 Mr Roberts is not a loser. He's the only man who treats me respectfully as a true lady. We enjoy sharing a lot of our feelings with each other. I like him, and I think he likes me too.
I hate NHK. I want them to give the viewing fees back to me. I have a TV whose reception for NHK is bad,so I've never watched NHK TV program. In spite of that, NHK have ripped me off the viewing fees for three years under the broadcasting law.
I'm guessing it's similar to the UK, where we have to pay a yearly 'TV license'. The money funds the BBC's broadcasting and services, since they don't show product advertisements. The cost is much lower for black and white TVs.
But basically, anyone who owns a TV is obligated to pay it.
>>910 I thought we went for hard labour after being caught thieving and murdering (sorry). And also because it's not cold and wet there all the time, and because there's a certain lack of chavs. And your food isn't really bland and tasteless.
>>914 You forgot the heinous crime of being Irish. There are no chavs, but there are bogans, which are like chavs left out in the sun for too long. Our food isn't bland and tasteless because everyone here has taken to eating KFC and McDonalds... oh wait, I think you got that part wrong.
I guess our fish and chips should in theory be better than English stuff, except don't eat fish from Sydney Harbour, as it's banned to fish there, what with the dangerous levels of mercury and all. Not many foreigners know that, lol.
>>915 I'll remember that for the next time I visit Sydney, thanks. I'd not really want to get Minamata-byou because it doesn't really sound fun...
Ahh yes, the Irish, deported for the terrible crime of... I don't actually know why. Being Catholic, I guess. Have heard about bogans, though. Do they go around mouthing off at people too, scattering when approached?
And as you guessed, I don't know much about Australian food. Just assumed that most places have more interesting food than here. Last time I visited, remember eating stuff like snake, ostrich, kangaroo and crocodile. We have a few fish and chips chain outlets now, which serve the worst fish and chips I've ever tasted. Local places down small backroads are still the best.
I'll let you in on a secret. No one in Australia actually eats any of that crap. Only tourists eat animals that don't graze on a paddock and weren't imported by the europeans. And naturally, fish and chips sold by small local places are better. They serve heaps more too.
Bogans are pretty much chavs of the south, but thankfully, Sydney is so large, yet is population is so small, the chances are much slimmer. Don't get caught in one of their neighbourhoods though.
>>920 Of course they are. I hate neighbours and home and away, but I love the theme to Eastenders, as it's on the cable channel "UKTV". I've only seen the credits though, as it used to be on before "Only Fools and Horses" and "Red Dwarf".
>>921 Yeah, we get the murderers from england. But in return, we send all the pedophiles back. Fairs fair, I guess.
How does イギリス人 think about north american bands like sum41 and green day which try to imitate british style. Sum41 is on tv now. I think they sound the same and boring.
American music quality is as at same level as japanese one. not good, I mean. Not the one to admire and respect or be afraid of. All are scum. I just realized.
>>927 I don't really know what Sum41 sounds like, but am quite familiar with Green Day. Not really much of a fan though, not to my tastes, but they have quite a big following from kids who skateboard. I agree that a lot of the songs sound very similar to each other. Though 'alternative rock' is popular here, the type that is influenced more by 'punk rock' isn't so popular here anymore.
>>934 Ah. Come to think of, you are right. But members of linkinpark are young,aren't they and thier lyrics, as far as I know are about agonies of adolecense so if I sing their songs, Native apeakers might think I am stupid and pretend to be young.
And Eminem. If I rap his tunes, they would think I am stupid and behave yourself. haha
>>937 Don't take it as boasting but my pronunciation is pretty good so I don't feel shy about singing in front of people on Karaoke. The problem is what native speakers would think about my choice of songs I sing.
You think Tommy Feburary's vocal's pronunciation is terrible? I don't think so. I think her pronunciation is pretty good......
Tommy february looks so mean. And she affects kylie minogue, dreaming white teenage girl... She is nearly 30's and typical asian looking woman. How poor she is. And it's surprising that イギリス人 knows the shame of japan.
I can understand she idealize some western culture. But how bold and numb she is to copy them and be absorbed in narcissism. lol
>>940 I don't know about her pronunciation. her style is just embarrassing. Woman over 30 with mean face acts like dreaming white teenager...still confident and narcissistic. laughable.
Girls like magibon are better. Because they are more close to real anime character than japanese cos players. lol
>>932 It's very hard to say, because karaoke is still very uncommon here, so it's very rare that someone would have a chance to sing such songs in front of an audience. However, I think that it would only really be appreciated among other fans. As I was saying before, such groups are mainly popular among adolescent teenagers, though there are exceptions. For example, my sister likes Green Day, and she's in her early 40s.
A lot of people find Linkin Park's songs far too whiny, because they're about adolescent pain and things that most adults find very trivial and insignificant. Things that adults have grown out of and have bigger worries of their own.
If you're good, though, people who enjoy that kind of music would probably not mind at all with your song choices. Other people might find your choice of song strange, but might be more tolerant because it's a non-native speaker doing well at it. Sorry if any of that is harsh...
>>937-938 I think Tomoko Kawase's English pronunciation is pretty good, though the grammar can still be strange at times. She's no Shiina Ringo, but the tone of voice is more pleasant to listen to...
>>932 In our day in age, I think if you're only 30, you don't have to worry about those "young" songs, since you're still young yourself. They play a lot of those songs in supermarkets, places where adults go shopping, and the radio. It's mainstream. I don't think anyone would mind, unless they disliked those particular bands. So it really just depends on the personal music choices of your audience, rather than the age group. And if you sing it in a funny way, it doesn't matter what you sing, it'll be entertaining, and could be seen as a funny parody.
>>946 We used to hear quite a bit about her, but not so much lately. She's mainly known for her marriage to Noel Gallagher (of the group Oasis) - and her divorce, as he was known for his violent temper. She's not really known for anything special, just music in the 80s, and for acting more recently (but in soap operas, so I guess her career has gone downhill a bit). I guess she used to be considered pretty, but is now considered past her prime, I think.
Attention Japan. I am professional blackguard and harbinger of evil Randugulf. In the interest of spreading the bad word to the far east i have taken up the use of this website (a device of lesser evil in its own right.)
In this i hope to teach you all how to use evil for fun, profit, and lols.
But anyways >>944 If you're 20 you're to old to be singing some of those songs without looking like a total failure. Linkin Park especially is meant for angsty teens only.
However the idea of some 30 year old japanese salaryman singing CRAWWWWWLING IN MYYYYY SKIIIIIIIN is hilarious.
>>948 Kylie Minogue made a come back a few years ago after long absense. When she came back a few years ago, I thought it's a different Kylie Minogue with the same name and when I found out that she is the same Kylie Minogue who used to be popular as a teenage idol, I was dumfounded. I felt happy when I knew she had been alive and kicking.
Noel Gallagher (of the group Oasis) Hmm. But They are many years apart in age, aren't they? It's uncommon in japan that older woman gets married to much younger man. She is really popular and bitch.
for your information, I'll inform you koyanagi rumiko and oosumi kennya. They were more than ten years apart at that time. You get close to Dave Spector again.
>>949 Do you think she was atrractive back then? Your "son" reacted?
>>943 Wait. What's the "uk" in front of youtube's URL?
I wonder what's the point of localising youtube for British people since Youtube is English website. I can understand localising it for us Japanese and add "jp" as the URL for Japanese youtube audience.
>>954 Sorry, I made a mistake! It was Liam Gallagher she married. If it was Noel, he would have been older than her, but you're right - she's four and a half years older than Liam, and it is unusual that men marry older women, though the age gap isn't so big. However, it was him who was blamed for the divorce, as being somewhat abusive. As for being attractive back then, I can see how she would be, but she's still not really my type, so not much of a reaction I'm sorry to say.
Hmm... Koyanagi and Osumi. That ended in divorce too, didn't it? It surprises me that an older-era singer and a more modern-style backing dancer would get together in the first place.
Further more by making teen angst seem like such a big deal they demean the hard work and effort people like me put into ruining lives.
For example the lyrics "Crawling in my skin, these wounds they will not heal." Probably go with some kid getting turned down by the girl he likes. But for me to get the same effect i usually have to summon a plague of insects or something. That takes days of careful planning and questionable pacts with the elder gods!
He was a backdancer for her conserts or something. He was nothing in show business while she has been a big name. Nobody knew who he was but after the announcement of their marriage, people get to know who he is. He began to be known to everybody after the marriage and began to make appearance on TV "as her husband."
He doesn't have anything to be popular in the first place so after their devorce, we see him far less on TV. I think it's like the marrage between Britney Spears (big name) and her ex-husband, who is not big name.
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>>963 Ah ha, thanks for that extra information. I've only seen him a couple times, and one of those was with Hamasaki Ayumi. I don't think she can sing very well in the first place, but his dancing looked very awkward and out of place too. I cringed almost as much as when someone showed me... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNYofHsCcAY This is terrible.
>>965 As long as you enjoy the songs, it matters more than what others think. Also, I think it's less a case of adults looking down on angsty teens, than they just ignore them. I sometimes look back on my years as a teenager and am amused by what I thought were problems back then, compared to the hardships of adult life. Still, it's all part of growing up and learning, and a natural part of life.
>>964 Thanks for the reminder! Almost didn't happen last time.
>>939 >Tommy february looks so mean. And she affects kylie minogue, dreaming white teenage girl... She is nearly 30's and typical asian looking woman.
Tommy Feburary is perfectly ok that way. She awares of what she's doing. She does not idolize white teenager. I guess that's just her style when siinging and kind of a joke. She knows that she's not young and probably wears a simple T-shirt and Jeans at home and keeps pretty conservative life style, I guess.
>>976 Euro beat stars like Kylie Minogue were her idol in her youth. She is just trying to be like her idealized image in her youth.
>cute girl who has kansai accent Just an ugly woman with buck teeth. not a girl. She is sorrounded by all western outfits including white girls ...except her. What a wannabe. She looks isolated. she is not aware of it. Shame Shame Shame. Imagine old women who read syoujo manga in their 30's or more. Or janese otaku obasan. They are very particular about boy's looking but not aware of how they look.. She is in the same category.
Only fetish knows her and listen to her music. If she is exposed to more public places, Everyone will be embarrased.