>>993 of last thread I'm sorry that we confused you! You are correct, a haggis is just a dish made from the ingredients you mentioned. We were just messing around and saying it was an animal because it's fun. We usually do that to trick Americans, who are very easy to convince. Haha, I actually feel a little bit bad for doing that.
of course it is how did you come up with that stupid idea of mcdonalds being just a tourist attraction? there are thousands of mcdonalds in japan; just for tourists, you say? i hate stupid people
Well, I'm leaving for Japan Tommarow~~~!! Good bye everyone! I expect that by the time I'm back, this thread will be almost completely full. xD Ciao. <3 n___n~~~<3
>>17 We have 'Taco on rice' in Japan (most commonly eaten in the southern most island, Okinawa). Do you have that in the US? If you haven't try it, you should, 'cause it's really good. All you have to do is put the Taco-seasoned meat on rice and sprinkle diced tomatos and shreddered letus and cheese. btw, does Tacos mean anything in Spanish?
>>18 I think people call that a 'Taco salad' here in the US. There are many types of tacos, I generally have grilled beef or beef tongue tacos. I think there are other uses for the work "taco" but I generally only use it to reffer to the food, and it doesn't have any special meaning like other foods (flautas, huaraches, ropa vieja, etc.).
>>20 I am not at all fond of politics so I don't talk about the government in any way very much, especially not in Spanish. But I think I have called it that a couple of times when talking to my father.
>>21 Most people here in the US find it disgusting, but I think that they are very good. I know my old Japanese teacher (who's native Japanese) also likes beef tongue, I think he mentioned it's a popular dish in Korean barbecue. Once I gave some to a friend and he didn't bother to ask me what it was until the day after, when I told him he instantly felt sick.
Are there many places in Japan to eat Mexican food? I'm just wondering since I didn't happen to see any when I went to Japan last year.
>>22 Yes, your teacher is right. It is very popular in Japan. It's called 'gyutan' in here. I definitely want to try tacos with beef tongue... yummy..... Is it ground or grilled?
There are tons of Mexican restraunts in Tokyo. I guess your finding none in Japan is like me not seeing any beef tongue in the US. We just know how or where to get them because we do. maybe. We don't have Taco Bells' in Japan (though not sure if you consider their food as mexican) except in the US army bases. I sometimes ask my friend, who is a veteran and living in Tokyo, to get some tacos from there. Sometimes I even ask him to escort me in. I like the taste of all the peppers. Cayenne, jalapeno, chili....
Billy from Billy's Boot Camp (Tae Bo) and his girls have just arrived in Japan!!! He sold 200,000 DVDs in one month last month and all of a sudden started to get a lot of attention. I wonder if he and his exercise are also popular in UK and Australia?
btw, did you know that he is the 5th child of the 14 children in his family? Sounds more African than American.
I think this is the most popular English only thread on 2ch, which isn't saying much, though. Anyway, our idol, Yukorin is in trouble. It seems Hamaguche is in pursurt of Miki Fujimoto of Morning Musume. I thought they were in love with each otther, but clearly that's not the case. Check this out. ttp://imepita.jp/img/trial/20070620/439350.jpg (FYI, Miki Fujimoto is right now regarded as the whorest woman in Japan.)
>>30 Do you mean Hamaguchi, Shoji and Fujimoto are trapped in a triangle relationship? I just can't image how she could be that popular. She seems really non-entity and has no character, because how many times I see her face, I cannot recognize her.
>>26 It's been a long time since I last heard about him! His routines were popular for maybe just a summer in the early 1990's though, and it never really caught on. This is in the UK, by the way.
>>30, >>31 I thought she only liked girls up until recently.
Hello, how are you guys doing? I have a question. This is a lyrics of a comic song.
Oh, the Irish shouldn't be allowed to breed We already have more drunkards than we need They're all just lazy slobs Who wanna take away our jobs And when they cut their fingers whiskey's all they bleed, whiskety-woo
What I want to know is the last part "whiskety-woo". It is supposed to be funny. How so? I don't understand it. Is it because it sounds funny?
hi thread, i'm posting from Florida in the south-east of the US >>38 i found 2ch through english versions of this site, such as 4-ch and 4chan. shameful, i know...
>>5 I didn't know what haggis is at all so I googled and found out that it's the name of a dish. So I at the beginning understood you were joking. But then you guys really sounded like you were talking about a creature not a dish, so I googled again. This time I found a website about haggis which is not the name of the dish but a creature. ttp://haggishunt.scotsman.com/
So I began not to be sure if you were joking or not. ^^; Is the point of the joke that haggis can mean both the creature and the name of the dish and American (or other people outside of UK or Scotland) get the wrong idea that Scotish eat haggis=creature eat it?
Acoording to the website I linked above, they seem to hunt haggis. If that's not for eating, what's that for? To use its fur or something?
a Scot, if asked by a tourist, might say that a Haggis is a wild furry animal with limbs longer on one side than the other. the "haggis hunt" is just an organized practical joke on tourists, similar to a "snipe hunt" or a "wild goose chase"
>>38 I've known about this board for a few years, but never really posted anything until quite recently. If I remember correctly, there were restrictions on outsiders being able to post, back then. But we could still read things.
>>37 It's one of those things that is "so bad, it's funny", I guess. But there's only really so much of it you can take before it becomes repetitive. I don't think it's supposed to be funny.
As for Sanma, I know he's supposed to be really popular, but I just find him really arrogant and annoying. Just how popular is he?
>>24 I do no consider Taco Bell Mexican food. Taco bell is American food, but I still like to eat there. However, if I want real Mexican food all I have to do is go home and my mother makes very good food. I visited Tokyo and the surrounding area (Chiba) and then went to Himeji for one day and stayed in Kyoto for two days. The whole trip was about a week. I will be going back soon and I will stay two days in Tokyo and ten in a city in Nagano.
>>45 Poster >>46 explained it well. The Australian in the last thread also mentioned 'dropbears' as well, which is an Australian equivalent of that tourist joke, as they describe a dropbear as some sort of especially fierce koala which attacks people from trees (or so I understand).
We were just playing along with each others' stories, which made us sound more serious than we actually were.
And just a bit of useless information about part of >>46's explanation: A snipe is a type of bird which is extremely evasive and difficult to shoot, which is why someone very skilled or accurate at shooting is known as a sniper.
>>38 I found out about this site when I did a Google search on something in Japanese and this site was one of the results. I don't remember what I was searching for.
52 :grammar hater, women lover :2007/06/21(木) 06:53:12
>>50 Wow! very interesting to discover the use of "evasive" in this context. it's almost impossible to come up with the word from japanese text. thanks! looks like only a single adjective goes a long way! can i say "she is so evasive that i cannot catch her, no matter what?" can i say "hey baby, i wish i could be a sniper" in this context?
of course everybody who experienced both prefers western style. crouching on the toilet requires a lot of flexbility on your part but the israeli army prefers the crouching style ones because terrorists can hide bombs under the seat, so i heard
>>60 Really? then that must be a popular resturant then!^^
>>58 I just want to add some more. 英語が上手いかかどうかかは たいしたことではないわけ。。。何を言ってるかが問題なわけ。。 どんなへたくそでも、ここに何かを英語で書くことが 練習になるし、外国の人とのコミュニケーションになっていいの。(^^)
>>62 I love western style toilet althought the Japanese style make train your muscle. I esp love washlet. Do you know? The washlet is one of the best invention in Japan? (^^)
>>47 I'm not >>37 but I am totally agree with you. I've never thought Sanma is funny and I don't understand why he's made appearance on lots of TV program for such a long time. To me, he's just noisy and not funny at all. What I don't like about him is, besides looking arrogant and being annoying and all that, is that he cuts in so often when another person is talking. I change channels when I saw him on TV.
Above is my personal opinion. But against my opinion, he sure makes appearnce on many variety shows where he plays a role of MC (I don't know if MC is the right word.) That means he is a commedian who can achieve good rating so he seems to have a fan base, maybe manily in their late thirties and older.
He sure looks arrogant but maybe that's just on TV. Many young commedians seem to respect him. I can understand that because he's been a front runner in Japanese show business, which I don't want to admit though because I don't like him. He belongs to a big agency (I don't know if agency is the right word.) called Yoshimoto kogyo which is famous for its management of commedians. Maybe he is a nice man off camera, treating young commedians dinner frequently, which is often the case in show business.
>>46>>50 Thanks for your detailed explanation. That reminds me of samurai around Narita airport who attack foreign tourists, which is the story I made.
>>65 The washlet started life in France, known as a 'bidet', around 300 years ago now. However, it was Japan who first had the paperless toilet, with a built in bidet and dryer, I believe, in 1980. The bidet in Western countries (though not everywhere has one) is usually a separate unit, and people who see them for the first time often have difficulty knowing what it is or how to use it. At first glance it might seem like a lowerful sink, or even a drinking fountain. However, I'm not really a toilet expert, so feel free to look it up.
>>73 Agency is the right word, yes. The entertainment business in Japan seems to very agency-oriented, which is something quite different to over here. As for MC, this is also a difference in modern culture, I guess. In the west, an MC is just generally someone who gets things moving at a public or stage event, saying a few words to the audience and announcing whoever the main performers are. However it seems that over there, an MC can be someone who presents a show, which we would just call a television presenter.
I agree that he looks arrogant when he's on TV, but also on radio appearances he seems arrogant by, as you say, butting in all the time and also sometimes constantly talking about all these women who (so he says) are interested in him, and then making egocentric jokes. Perhaps he treats young comedians to dinner just to try and gain influence and popularity with them...
>>62 Must admit that I also prefer western style toilets over squat ones.
>>73 I agree. I hate Sanma for the same reasons as you mentioned. I don't believe he is popular among Japanese in realistic sense. Those popular votes by CM companies where he is always ranked top 1-3, are fake or extensively manipulated.
Sanma owed huge debt from his divorce. That's why his agency booked him like nuts and he's been all over the place. He is definitely past prime but is not going to retire anytime soon since he is still paying for his kid's college tution. Bad news.
The fact is you see him on TV almost everyday. The reason is that his programs have pretty good ratings. If people don't watch his shows, their sponcers complain and shows will be made to finish but that doesn't happen. On the contrary, some of his shows has been around so many years and even his new program is aired. That makes me lead to a conclusion that he is popular.
Personally, I don't like him and don't watch his TV.
of course he is quite popular in Japan. He is one of the most popular comedians in Japan, period. i mean .. are you kidding? what college tuition?? do you have any idea how much he makes?? he payed back the debt he incured in the aftermath of the bursting of the bubble economy, ages ago.
I like Sanma. I think it is hard to understand Kanasi way of humour for all the ppl esp those who live in northern or Kanto are.
It looks arrogant but it is a way of showing his adoration and sympathy in a shy way. He calls ppl "omae" (you in a rough way)even to ones he just met. It may seems like a behaviro of no respect for some ppl but IMO, to judge the truth from the behavior whether he is truly a good guy or a bad is not so simple. But it is just a matter of "NARE"(become familiar with). Even someone with very rough behavior, if you would know him well and you know that is his style coz he is shy, you no longer pay attention to the rough side but we can just see the core thing that he has. (whether he truly has love and makes ppl feel good or just being selfish).
But I know, we all have like and dislike. I think he is ok. I am not a big fan of his though. I just wanted to say "Ikken kanji ga warukutemo kokorono yoihito wa iru...kotoni tsuite hanashimashita."^^;
It's not the matter of Kansai. I love Downtown, which is a pair of comedians from Kansai and belongs to Yoshimoto kogyo, too. One of Downtown, Hama-chan(Hamada) often hits someone on the head but I don't I don't feel bad because it's real funny and someone who is hit on his head even feel pround of being hit by him cause he understand his style.
Matsumoto, the partner of hama-chan often say something rude to someone but that's real funny, too. When it is too rude, Hama-chan hit Matsumoto on his head. That leads audiences to laughing. That's their style as a comedian and I love it.
As for Sanma, no matter what he does and try to make people laugh, that's just noises to me and no funny at all, really annoying.
uh, I don't really care if he is a good guy or not. Bad mouth is a pretty much universal way for joking, but he has no style. He just sounds like an ordinary guy making fun of people. >>84 is right about other comedians from Yoshimoto. Simply enough, he is not funny.
I don't like to see anyone being hit on his head or any other part of his body. I don't find it funny at all. I wonder why one can be so numbed to actually hit some one else and make him or her look like a dumb, and still acts like he's done something amiable and preferable. It's disgusting. And it's a shame.
I personaly find him funny and he does have his own style. lots and lots of TV producers want to use him in their shows but he actually chooses the ones he really wants to be on, and rejects most of the offers. As he limits the number of shows, guarantee (i wonder if this word is used in english too... means payment) goes up higher and higher. He is paid more than any other comedians (including downtown) in Japan.
I think he's much better than other young comedians who just yell and scream, to get attention out of other comedians..
But, yeah, i admit there are many people who don't like the way he jokes.
>>43>>47>>51>>60 Thanx 4 the answers! Very interesting! 4ch気になるw
Not to mention, we need a great sensitivity to make fun of others without hurting them, including the TV audience in this case. To me, Sanma does not seem to have enough sensitivity or intelligence to justify his rude behavier. He just laughing his own nasty remarks that are not funny at all.
Talking about sensitivity, Shinsuke (Shimada) is remarkable. Shinsuke also make fun of guest speakers; however, he is so sensitive to everybody and impressively sophisticated that we can really enjoy his shows.
Unlike Sanma, Shinsuke does listen to what people are saying and capable of shooting funny jokes and remarks about them like a machine gun without hurting anybody. Oh, I can tell he is extremely well-trained (by himself) and has a great talent.
Sanma? He is just a stinky, rotten fish to say the least.
Hey, another American here with a lot of free time. >>38 I found this site as it was referenced in Densha Otoko and figured I would check the site out. I
>>88 On top of that, his sense of humor is pretty dull. There is nothing creative involved in his jokes. Basically he makes mediocre jokes that anybody can relate to, which is probably why he gets his popularity from the masses because he is kind of 'safe' to the viewers and even to the producers who feature him. Take takeshi or matsumoto for example. They make even worse and nastier remarks. So these guys are even dangerous because you never know what theyre going to say or do next moment. They take risks to make themselves look and sound crazy enough to stay on the edge and that's what makes them hilarious and totally different from others. Sanma definitely lacks that type of twist that people don't expect to see. He doesn't go beyond. He just goes by with his same old style. He stands as a guy within common sense. I get the same crap from Tamori too.
Another person who's heard of that story huh? Eh, I think the entire thing was exaggerated or something, but it made spawned some decent entertainment.
Hey seems like lots of people overseas got to know 2ch after watching the drama, "train man" right? But I guess you've never read orignal posts posted in 2ch's threads by train man and people involved, right? I was surprised to see that translated version of their original posts here in 2ch back then is published as a paperback and sold in a bookstore. Maybe drama version is exaggerated as 94 says (I haven't watched the drama.) but I think you are able to see how things were going back then between trainman and other posters by reading the paperback. If you are interested, maybe you can buy it on amazon or other online bookstores.
>>95 there's also an internet archive of the posts. I've read through some of the posts, but not all of them. there's both an original Japanese archive and a translated archive.
If you want to skim through the book in Japan, I think you can do it in a big bookstore such as Kinokuniya where they have books overseas in their shelves.
>>96 Oh yeah? Thank you for your comment. I've skimmed through the original(=Japanese version) but never knew there is translated version. Shame on me. Then people overseas in this thread have read the English version.
Another American here. I heard about 2ch from an article on Wired about a guy who wanted to commit suicide but did not have the courage to do it alone.
Yeah, there's a translated version of the posts, but it took alot of liberties with the translation to say the least. I knew about 2ch for a while, but Trainman showed me some stuff I didn't know much about, like AA.
Shinsuke is by far the worst TV presenter (former comedian) I've ever seen. All he does is dominate the show by showing off his knowledge, which is actually common sense that everyone knows. I change the channel when ever I see him.
>>105 I don't know it exactly because I only joined 2channel from last year ...But...that was one of the most famous episodes ever happaned on 2channel several years ago?...And this true story was published and became a best-seller. And there are also some dramas and a movie. I think I remember one of my Australian Otaku friends told me how fun it was and (at that time I've already read the book but have not seen the movie yet) so I went to see the movie. It was a fun and romantic (in a way) movie. I thought. ^^
>>108 Hi, I am 105. Thanks for your info. So, Trainman is a book and a movie based on a real story related to 2channel. I am Japanese, but I have never heard of the book. Shame on me! I will try and find the book and the movie. Sounds interesting. Thanks a lot!
>>112 I haven't seen the movie, but I watched the whole drama. From watching the drama and seeing previews for the movie I think the drama should be tons better.
I want to be good at Englsh. I tried to write a diary.But i was worry about my english. Maybe, noo one of my friends teach me about correctivity of my english now, i try to join here. so, if i write incorrect engish, please teach me right one.
yoroshiku.
>>111 wow, i admire good translation, e.g. [めしどこかたのむ」 transelated to [dinnerwhere help].
>I tried to write a diary.But i was worry about my english. You should combine these two sentences into a compound sentence by changing the period after "diary" into a comma, and decapitalizing "but". You should also change "worry" to "worried".
>Maybe, noo one of my friends teach me about correctivity of my english This should be "None of my friends will tell me how correct my English is."
>now, i try to join here. You should change "I try" to "I'm trying".
>please teach me right one. You should say "please teach me the right way to say it".
Yesterday, ヒル国務次官補、Hill Assistant Secretary of State went to North Korea. He showed a strong interest in visiting NK and their relationship somehow seems a little suspicious. How do you guys think about it? There are some secret things behind?
>>118 I was very disappointed by the fact that the US did not take any military action to prevent DPRK from developing nuclear bombs. The US attacked Iraq for suspicion of their WMD production. On the contrary, DPRK actually declared their possession of nuclear bombs. Why didn't the US take any action? I cannot tolerate US double standard in light of the Japan-US security treaty, I don't expect much from Hill's visit to North Korea after US made some disastrous concessions by releasing DPRK assets that had been frozen at Banco Delta Asia in Macao. I am very disappointed about the six-party talks and US appeasement to Pyongyang. What can we expect from Hill's visit? Making another concession? Oh, come on!
Yeah I also think there's something behind Hill-North Korea govenment relationship. It's so strange that US is being unbelievably patient, compared to their attitudes toward other countries of what they call 'axis of evil'.
>>138 that's because the US is already horrible overextended with what they're already doing. Bush could possibly get enough support for a war with Iran, but he could never pull off a war with NK. Can't SK handle it?
Besides, muslims are far more crazy than any communists ever were.
>>143 NK isn't even in the news over here. Any politician suggesting that we start another war in another corner of the globe while we're still in the mess we started in the Middle East would be destroying his career.
If we carpet-bombed Africa, we'd reduce poverty in the world significantly. It's not like the situation is going to improve anytime soon, so why not put them out of their misery? hahaha, boom!
>>144 "his career?" You mean Bush? Who cares about his bloody career any more after thousands of USF servicemen have been killed in Iraq?
The point is that IF the US is really serious about world peace, human rights, democracy, war against terrorism and “world free from WMD”, the US should take military action against North Korea.
OK, it is understandable that the US cannot afford to break into another war against a tiny tyrant country in the FAR-east that has no natural resources for "the interest of the US.” But, that cannot justify US appeasement to North Korea if the US is really serious about “peace and security in this region” for which Japan-US and ROK-US military alliance have been maintained.
Can I ask you one question? Why are your 100,000 US Air Force, US Army, US Marines, and US Navy, including USN 7th Fleet, stationed and kept deployed here in the FAR-east for what you call a "regional security?"
As long as DPRK missiles cannot reach US mainland, "we don't care about DPRK nuclear bombs." Right?
Thanks >>136 138 139 144 148 Your opinions are great help for me to think over the issue. So...it is kida furtile to rely on U.S.A since we would be no longer able to rely on them or they are just not interested in the matters far east...^^;
Seems that pretty much everyone here loves to see the US bomb NK, w/o thinking of its impact on the stock market or the consequences like a possible flood of Korean refugees coming to Japan. You should really excercise Billy's Boot Camp to reduce your stress level.
Hello all you sexy people! Why is there such a separation between Japanese people and foreigners on the internet? I know there is the language barrier but once you've studied hard and worked around that, you still encounter some barriers.
Sites like mixi and even this website require you to be Japanese to be a part of them. and now I hear that nicovideo will be Japanese only in the near future. Is this because foreigners are considered to be disruptive?
>>159 I don't know much about nicovideo. (for people who have no clues about nicovideo, it's a video sharing website like youtube but it has its specific original features.)
But as for mixi, it's not restricted to Japanese. There are lots of foreginers there. Some understand Japanese very well, some not quite well.
>>159 Good question. You arrogant dude. You can take part in a large number of discussion sites in Japan. We welcome and appreciate foreigners opinions and viewpoints. All you need to do is to send in your opinions in Japanese, not in English. What? You cannot write Japanese? That is your problem, not ours.
You'd better read your own comment: "I know there is the language barrier but once you've studied hard and worked around that...." 良いこと言うじゃん。頑張って日本語勉強しろよ。話はそれからだ。
>>159 I partly agree with >>164 (though wouldn't go so far as to call you "arrogant"). I think part of the reason you feel that way is because Japanese language is not amongst the latin languages. That is, almost all the Japanese forums are filled with non-latin alphabets, and the list of unfamiliar characters, which everybody else seems to understand except you, may make you feel detached. Maybe you don't feel so separated once you learn how to read a couple of Japanese characters. We are not trying to detach ourselves from the rest of the world, but just conversing in our own native language and that's all.
Besides, if there were forums on your favorite topic both in English and in Spanish , which one would you choose to go?
>>159 So far, the only barrier I have found is language, but it is not such a difficul task to overcome. Once you know even a little bit of the language, a lot of options open up and it's easier to navigate around. I haven't found many sites which require you to be Japanese to sign up; I'm a foreigner but also have a mixi account. The only two problems I have run into were:
1. Once, long ago, I played Bomberman Online for a while. Then they restricted all players to Japanese IP addresses. However, I blame the Brazilians, as they have a tendency to have obnoxious and annoying players in any game they choose to play.
2. Some online shops. It seems some places are very strict on not being able to ship their products or items internationally. One place in particular is Yahoo! Auctions, where it seems the majority of users specifically select 'will not ship internationally'. However, many online shops have become more open internationally and where they did not export before, now they do.
To a large degree, I also agree with >>164 (though not in such harsh words) and >>165. Just because 99% of the users do not communicate in your most familiar language may make it seem like there is a barrier. But once you're past that, the world is yours for the taking! Or something like that, anyway.
>>166 If I'm not wrong, you have no problem reading Japanese to think that you tried to buy something on Yahoo auction?
I haven't joined any auction website, including yahoo auction.(From what I heard, you have to pay about 300 yen a month in a current system to join Yahoo auction .)
If you have a problem on yahoo auction regarding international shipping, then try ttp://www.bidders.co.jp/ This is said to be the No.2 auction site in Japan. Plus, you don't have to pay monthly fees there. As I said, I haven't joined auction, so I don't know if the participants of Bidders auction handle international shipment or not, though.
And abuot mixi. I'm a member of a mixi, too. But I didn't have anyone who invites me there. You know, unlike Myspace you need to have someone who is already a member of mixi and sends you invitation e-mail to be a member of Mixi.
Strictly, speaking this is against the Mixi's rule, but in 2ch,(not in English board) there are lots of threads where anonymous invites anonymous to Mixi. All you have to do is show your e-mail addy there, and a member of Mixi sends you invitation e-mail to you. That's how I joined Mixi.
* In a current rule, just showing your e-mai addy is not enough. You need to show your cell phone's e-mail addy, too.
This change of Mixi's rule happened because lots of so called 2 channelers joined mixi just to do bad things in Mixi.
Look at this clip ! The Nanking massacre was a lie ! According to lawmaker's investigations, the massacre by Japanese didn't take place. Instead, Chinese i.e. the nationalist party had done it actually before the Japanese army attacked Nanking.. ttp://www.j-cia.com/file/29/2820/2.wmv
Hello again, everyone. I'm back once more; wasn't around for quite a while due to having been quite busy recently. A lot of things going on in my life, but I figured I'd drop in and check things out once more. How's everybody doing? Where are all the regulars??
>>171 Read from >>1 and you can get glimps of how things are going here, these days at least in this thread. Not so difficult for an English speaker, eh?
I hope you mangaed to find a good programming job. Oh you know of keira. She is in Japan now. She and her mom scheduled to come to Japan for a trip. It's rainiy season here but they are lucky. It is not expected to rain. Maybe you might want to come to Japan.
Hello guys I hav a question i wanna ask you i like translating Enlish songs into Japanese, and now im translating a song called "Hands Held High" from Linkin Park and there is a few lines i don quite understand so id be happy if you could help. The song is pretty much an Anti-War song ↓this is the part of the lyrics Take back what's yours Say something that you know they might attack you for cause I'm sick of being treated like I have before. Like it;s stupid standing for what I'm standing for. Like this war is really just a different brand of war. Like it doesn't cater to the rich and an abandoned the poor. Like they understand you in the back of the jet, When you can't put gas in your tank.
I have difficulty in understanding this line: "Like they understand you in the back of the jet,...put gas in your tank." I understood it like 戦車のエンジンがかからない時にジェット機に乗ってる奴らに理解されるような im really unclear about this and i don see the image of this. what is the situation like ? do "they" referred here means enemies? Where is "Back Of the Jet"? is it in the jet plane and is it like"Enemies" understand "you" "in the back of the jet" or "you" are "in the back of the jet"??
>>174 I don't knoow either... But just a guess.... Means neither side misunderstands eachother? esp the rich side do nothing and show a shallow smile as if they understand the pooor? and he doesn't want to fight for the garbages? ^^;
>>176 thx, it does a bit so "they" are the enemy in their jet plane and the enemy "understands" you when you are stuck in your tank without gas? is this correct ish? i don quite understand wht he means by "understands"though does this mean like the enemy is sympathized about tank that cant move? or the enemy finds out the tank is facing the problem so thery are ready to attack ??
This line comes to connection(link) with the Treatment which he is sick of right? i mean these lines starting with "Like" are somethin like examples of the treatment he is sick of. i don really see the link between the treatment and this particular line. about the tank and the jet...
can you help?
179 :177=head to bed at 2am:2007/06/24(日) 01:35:01
Nah...I don't think that does mean the ppl in aircraft (rich) is ready to attack the tank (poor). The Aircraft is doing nothing so the guy is irritated? or something and he doesn't wanna make an action unless there would be some kind of flame or something...^^;
>>177 thx to you too! i guess you got the point of the song. the song sings about the gap between rich and poor too I kinda got confuesed and mixed up! now, with your help , i know "they" refer to rich!!
>>179 ok i quite like your metaphor the aircraft could be representing rich and the tank representing the poor! this is very helpfull!! I think iv got it yeah. what you said in >>177 ie "as if they(rich) understand the pooor"seems like the key here and the answer to one of my questions! although im not 100% sure this interpretation is right, but i feel this is right or close to right lol Now i hav the image of wht these lines are sayin. thx very much! enjoy your sleep!!
181 :177=head to bed at 2am:2007/06/24(日) 01:56:16
>>178 Sorry I don't really undersatnd the lyric, to tell the truth so the above I said are most likely wrong. You might also misunderstand what I said by my poor English. Sorry for the confusion. I go to bed now good night! ^^;
182 :177=head to bed at 2am:2007/06/24(日) 01:59:45
>>180 Oh it seems like we posted at the same time... but it's funny that u kind of said part of my writings got the point? while I had a second thought that I was wrong...haha Anywayz good night! frind! ^^
>>167 Thanks very much for this information, I'll check out bidders.co.jp! I was very unfamiliar with the monthly charge, but 300 yen sounds like a very little amount, so I'm guessing it's just in place to deter bogus or prank auctions and bidders.
Normally I use such sites to search for things which are normally quite hard to find, such as nice but fairly inexpensive hats or music.
>>168 I had no idea about the new cellphone email address policy. Are these commonplace over there? In the UK, being able to send email or browse the Internet via a cellphone still hasn't really caught on, and data charges are still very high. Only one provider offers 'unlimited data access' at around (equivalent of) 10,000 yen per month.
>>172 Yeah, I suppose I can get the general gist of things. Also, yes, I would take a trip if I could... unfortunately I don't have the time or money to do that right now. I plan to within the next two years, however...
>>185 I'm still here. :) I'm just checking back in a count of hours, rather than minutes. :P
Talkin' about Ether, I wonder how Magibon is doing. Last I heard was that she was making a contact with an agency in Japan to seek for a debut in Japan, but have never heard anything since then. I really hope the agency is a decent one, because I truly belive if Leah Dizon could make it, Magi can easily make it here!
>>186 Do you have an animal called "Haggis" in the US? (NB: not a dish but an animal) As far as I know, they only exist in English speaking countries, such as UK, Australia, etc. so obviously not in Japan. Have you seen one over there?
>>188 I think i remember my irish teacher was sayin that too. it was long time ago so i don remember what it was and its details and stuff. he was using "Haggis" like a joke though, and class was laughin each time he mentioned it.
I have a consult here. It seems like many people visit this thread, So tell me your opinion.
I am a student for one senmon gakkou. My classmates are about 20. At first I was close to everyone there even though they are not my type of people. From the beginning, there was a conflictions in terms of idea, atmospher. So actually, there is no close friend actually. There is one girl I like very much. But she started to get close to one guy and talk to her everyday. I didn't doubt them because I felt they are just friends. But after that, she started to ignore me, so I felt something wrong there. I think they treat me as a zombi or monster (I am not ugly but maybe a little bit weird or I am a very original person, also I am a kikokushijo). I felt so left out and one day I overreacted over a small thing I yelled at them. Class started to lable myself crazy. Since then people see me as a bam and nobody talks to me. I feel so uncomfortable but I don't really care much. Because as I said I was kind of alone all the time. But I think the girl I like stands at the center of this circle. So whatever she does makes a trend. As long as she treats me bad, all the other students would follow. What is the good way to solve this? Even I said it is ok this way, I don't really like to be treated this way forever. I just stay quiet and ignore though.
One annoying thing is there are two guys who like her very much actually do nasty things. I've been ignoring them. When I go to school, I just stay alone and do my stuff. Almost no communication at all these days. I want to be treated good or normal by the girl that I like. But it seems difficult.
Ouch. Sounds like a rather delicate (and anxiety-inducing) situation. I'm not too familiar with how things are over there; does being a kikokushijo have any specific impact as to the way others view you?
In any case, all I can say is either let it blow over, or try to speak with her privately and be direct about the situation. Then again, I suppose you'd have to take her personality into account beforehand. Is she a rather straight-forward person? Is she making rude remarks or ignoring you in a purposeful manner? All I can do right now is propose figurative and stereotypical responses, and my advice may not be reliable due to the cultural barrier...
Hope some of this was of help, though. Feel free to respond and I'll reciprocate! Good luck with that!
Well, Kikokushijo is concerned as one of gaijin (foreigners) here through my experience. I am more individualistic whereas they are more group people. One thing I find is they often tell me this way, "kuuki wo yome" - read the atmospher. But I want to be myself always. Maybe they think I am "selfish" because I do and think things by my own.
I think she is a fun-loving girl. She is pretty and attractive. Yes, she is straight-forward. So probably once she understands me, she would no longer ignore me. But I have no courage to talk to her direct. Myabe I just let it blow. If I had a chance, I'd try not to hurt her feeling and talk.
Thanks. I didn't give you detailed information beforehand. That's why you can't be precise in response, but it helps me.
>>195 I see, I see. Well, while it may seem easier to just let it blow over, you should seriously consider talking to her about it. Maybe she'll appreciate your honesty and forthcoming manner about the subject?
I'm not saying to make some sudden confession or anything, but maybe ask her in some way why it seems she and the others in your class are alienating you? Surely, if she is is not mean spirited, she'll take what you say seriously and make some effort or another to mend the situation (whether by speaking to you about it to make things clear, or by some more or less direct means).
In short, all I can say is, that if I were you, I'd analyze the situation once more and consider approaching her about it. But, I'm not you, so that may or may not be an option for you. I suppose you'll just have to follow your own instincts and do the best you can.
>>Ether Well...yes. If I would talk and ask a question to her as you advised, I think she'd be honest with me. But I kind of knowing in advance how she sees me. It is hard to understand the real personality by just talking few words. I think it would take awhile until things is cleared. But now is the situation that they labeled me so it is hard to rip down that label from me. She is a key person. I am not a type of the person to convince someone. I am not good at it. So.... I will let it blow for awhile, and if I'd find a chance, I will talk to her. Thanks Ether. You are very kind.
>>197 It's not worth even considering how to deal with those people. Senmon-gakkou is not a place to make friends in the first place, is it? So as you mentioned, do whatever is necessary to improve your skills, in that way, you'll have great opportunities to get a job you want to be engaged in. If you want to make friends, go find a part time job or participated in a sport circle or something. Point is, don't adhere too much to one specific world. There are tons of people out there beyond the school you go to. IMO
Pretty steep conversation going on here and really I don't have much advice for you sense I personally am a really awkward person. But I guess what I can say is that you yourself are acting quite interestingly to this situation taking an initiative toward a girl that you did not make much progress with in the first place. Now I'm not saying you're acting to out of place in a out of place feeling environment but by the sound of it you acted out quite rashly which put you in your current situation.
Really what I can say as another generally weird person is to take a step back and let things be for a moment then move in with a calmed non-anxious mind. Be who you are, not what you are.
>>193 What makes you ask us in English? So that the girl wouldn't track you down? I wonder.
Anyways, as I see you're stuck and struggling, I'll tell you something. You say you're a original person. But you act like you really do care about what people think of you. On one hand you say you really don't care what they do, and on the other, you're like please don't ignore me. Maybe you've got some atittudes and that's what they don't like. Being original has nothing to do with being stuck up. I mean, don't you think you're contradicting yourself?
If you don't really care, act like it. If you like the girl, show it to her. Don't wait till others come up and talk to you. That's what you should have done, but I think it still works.
>>183 Yeah, the main reason they began to charge 300 yen is to prevent online frauds and things like that from happening. I am not sure if Bidders will follow suit. Bidders is run by a trustworthy company so you don't have to worry too much. I heard e-bay once was in Japanese market but after they decided they can't win Yahoo auction, they retreated from Japanese market.
I am a cap person rather than a hat person. The reason I wear it is not for fashion statement but for more practical reason, which is to make my head warm in winter and to protect my head from sun rays in summer.
Sending e-mail and browsing website with a cell phone (you call it rather mobile (phone) in UK, if I'm right.) is very common here in Japan. There are websites designed to be browsed with a cell phone. As you might know, Mixi, 2ch and popular blog service providers design their services for a mobile phone use, too. I mean you can access to them with your mobile phone.
There are three major mobile phone service carriers in Japan. NTT Docomo, AU and Softbank are the big three. (By the way, Vodafone used to be in service here but Softbank bought it.) They provide various charging systems designed to match users's mobile phone uses habit. Using e-mail and webrowsing with a mobile phone is about how many packets you recieve or send if I am not wrong. Visiting websites and recieving e-mails means receiving packets. They charge you besed on how many packets you recieved or send.
In AU's case, if you pay 5500 yen or so a month, no matter how many packets you recieve or send, it's just 5500. If you don't think you receive or send 5500 yen-worth packets a month, then it's better to apply for a charging system in which they hcarge purely based on how many packets you recieve and send a month. If you want to know more, feel free to ask. Anyway, when it comes to moblie phone's access to the Internet, it's far less expencive in Japan than UK.
>acting quite interestingly to this situation taking an initiative toward a girl that you did not make much progress with in the first place.
What do you mean here?
well...youu are right. I acted quite rashly. That was my mistake. I tend to be very narrow outlook on something important for me.... When I overreacted, it was a bit crazy...but I can't explain. I guess I am very quiet person generally but all of a sudden I exposured my emotion in public, so they started to labled me that I am crazy.
Calmed and non-anxious mind is the best. I agree with you. Thanks!
Hi, I have been wondering if any of the Americans or Japanese out there have a good idea of how the American cuisine here is different from the food in it's country of origin.
I don't think I have a good idea of how much you conversed with this girl.
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No worries, but really you need to take a different more ... "cool?" approach to this. Don't take my meaning of cool the wrong way, but rather you need to really just be yourself and keep your mind of being liked.
>>197 Hey, however you want to do it is fine - just be wary of having any regrets in the future. Keep it together, and if you wish to talk any more, feel free to email me.
>>200 Isn't it theoretically possible to be original but still maintain, even on such a level, a wanting to be accepted and a care for what those around you think of you? It doesn't really seem like he's acting stuck up in this situation, in my honest opinion. At the same time, though, you do have a point in those last few statements. Waiting around won't help much - it may blow over in time though if it's intentional.
>>200 I think your opinion is a little bit too strong. But that's ok.
Let me see...am I contradicting? Do I want to be a likeable person by them? Do I like them? Am I being stuck up?
I don't like them now. So I don't care. I understand why they don't like me but I don't want to make an effort to be liked. The reason is I look down on them. haha
Probably you are right. I guess I am being stuck up. Well but not everybody. There are many classmates I like. You know if somebody show you a favorable attitude, you start to like him/her and if not you won't. vice-versa. Things are all like that. I don't know if I am the one who started first or they are the ones. I care actually that's why I come here to consult you. But not a death or alive situation. I can live without them. Do you know what I mean? I just want the girl change her attitude. That's my point.
>>183 One more thing. The reason why Mixi has began to require you to register your mobile address is as follows. Let's say one person does bad things frequently and everytime he does bad things his Mixi account is deleted. He doesn't care at all because all he has to do is take a free e-mail address such as Yahoo mail and hotmail again and go to a 2ch's thread and ask someone to send him an invitation mail to the e-mail address he just got.
Mixi was fed up with this type of person so they decided to require mobile phone e-mail address, too. Your mobile phone's e-mail address is usually just one so if your account is deleted, there's no way of signing up for Mixi again. This is Mixi's countermeasure againt this type of annoying person.
>If you don't really care, act like it. If you like the girl, show it to her. Don't wait till others come up and talk to you. That's what you should have done, but I think it still works.
Yeah, thanks.
I am shy and not good at expressing my real self. Moreover, I am under the situation of being misunderstood. So it is hard for me to make her attitude change. She might think I am a stalker or something. So as I said before, I will continue to being myself and be nice to her if I'd have a chance.
guys... if a quiet creep, who thinks he's "original" and shit, suddenly yelled and went crazy over some smalll thing, of course that guy would get rejected!!! what else do you expect???
>>213 I thought you were a guy at first but your are a girl? Well, I'm Japanese and couldn't tell if you are male or female just by reading your posts. Mybe my lack of proficiency. I just thought making it clear if you are a boy or a girl would give you pinpoint advice. It must be just me who can't tell if you are male or female so just forget my post. ^^
>>214 well...there is a reason why I blew up in anger. My little bro is a physically challenged. (abnormal chromosome). When I saw them talking, they were not talking about my brother but they were making fun of those people. So I just said to them "isn't it too cruel remark for them?" But still they were laughing so I kind of got angry. The rest I don't remember. But I remember one guy even said "Don't make a fuss out of it". That really hurt my feeling. make a fuss......
>>219 then why do you like the girl? she hangs with the retards who made fun of physically challenged people right? i mean isn't she like the boss of those retarded students...? or am i mistaken
>>222 Yeah, good point. She is also a bitch. I want to slap her face too. Just kidding.....well I still believe in her that she truly has a golden heart. I am still waiting for the day when her true heart turns out to be a greatest one. I've observing her and find she is a good girl. Actually she used to hang out with those retard students but not these days.
>>222 I feel the same way, plus, I don't know anymore if he is telling us the truth or not, because in his first post he wrote; "I felt so left out and one day I overreacted over a small thing I yelled at them....", but now he is saying his brother is physically challenged and making fun of those pelople is not a small thing.
>>224 well...if you believe me or not is your choice. I said "small thing" because that time I didn't want to confess what exactly happaned here. For me it is a big thing of course. But the situation, that they were talking about Alzheimer people, imitating their body movement, is probably not a big thing.
>>224 isn't my post, but.. hmmm... Alzheimer is more like a state of brain deterioration, rather than a physical thing... Do you really know what you are talking about?
>>226 I am sick and tired of replying to each of mindless idiots here... So this will be my last post. I don't quite remember if they were doing a imitation of arutsuhaimaaa or parkinson. I don't remember which one was it. and I don't want to remember it. So that's about it. I appreciate you won't talk about this matter anymore.
>>208 > Isn't it theoretically possible to be original but still maintain, > even on such a level, a wanting to be accepted and a care for > what those around you think of you?
Yes, it is, and that's kinda what I wanted to say. Maybe I didn't put it right. Forget about the third and fourth lines of my post. I thought, while >>193 was eager to be accepeted by the class, he pretended on the surface he didn't give a shit about what people said about him.
> Being original has nothing to do with being stuck up.
This is what I really wanted to tell him. I just read from >>193 that he was actually proud of being alone in his class, only if the situation were not how it is now. Maybe thinks something like "I'm not one of them." Well, he actually goes, "they are not my type of people" It is to say it's okay for him to stay away from them because he's "original," but it's not okay when it's their turn to ignore him because they're plain, ordinary crowd. Also, it seems he believes that the ability to cope by himself qualifies him to be "an original person," and I wanted to tell him that it did not.
>>209 An original person can be totally himself, and still be warmly accepted. Do not think of your being original, or a kikokushijo, as the reason for your alienation. There's something else. This is what I meant to say with >>200. I really didn't mean to hurt you, though. I just wish both you and the girl could understand themselves better.
Oh, one more thing. Find someone or somewhere you can spit out all your emotions. It's not healthy to let them accumulate inside you. It could be us, of course, but preferably something/one in the real world.
>>202 Thanks for your lengthy explanation. Also you're correct, in the UK we more commonly refer to it as a mobile phone, or just a mobile. Thought that might have been the case with Vodafone also, as I have a friend whose cellphone email ends in 'vodafone.ne.jp', yet her provider is Softbank. I think data services are not used so much here for a few reasons. People are not generally as busy or on the move as much, and so fewer people require it. Also, though 'high speed' networks are established here, I think the next generation connections are being put in place. It would be very useful to be able to update a blog or website via a cellphone connection though (I do web development) and would happily try and find a way to implement it if only the service was more widespread and accessible. Data transfer costs are around the equivalent of about 750 yen for every 1MB transferred.
>>212 Guess I got there in time then, else it would not have been at all possible to join. For the target audience, however, that seems a good and fair precaution.
>>223 Especially at school ages, girls are very sensitive to how other people see them, and will take large measures to try and be popular. Of course, this doesn't apply to everyone, but a majority. This makes it easy for them to get dragged into groups and even if their ideology differs, they'll try to change in order to fit in, for a feel of acceptance. If she doesn't hang around with them anymore, perhaps she is maturing and accepting herself for who she is, rather than what other people want her to be.
>>229 I don't know if he emphasized about being "original" that much? He just said the crowd are not type of people he likes very much, but I guess he was ok to study in the school. I hope you won't take thing too twisted. He was just asking for our opinions here. Gee... I guess those who made negartive remarks are all the same person.
>Probably you are right. I guess I am being stuck up. Well but not everybody. There are many classmates I like. You know if somebody show you a favorable attitude, you start to like him/her and if not you won't. vice-versa. Things are all like that. I don't know if I am the one who started first or they are the ones. I care actually that's why I come here to consult you. But not a death or alive situation. I can live without them. Do you know what I mean? I just want the girl change her attitude. That's my point.
I think this is what she wants to say. She cares only about her. The rest is not that important and she likes most of the classmates there except few negative people.
>>239 well i think it should be 篠田様神. 篠田神様 would sound too formalistic to me You know how a word 神 is used in 2ch so to me Mr or Sir Sinoda is 神 if you know wht i mean
>>243 Couldn't you really tell how incoherent the poster was? I'm not the one who wrote offensive comments but I don't think the poster deserves sympathy either.
>>249 well he has some japanese blood runnin in him though its not that i like him cuz hes like half-japanese u know he is verly multi-talented and stuff
>>257 i was born in the US but im not im Japanese by blood my parents are both Japanese now i live in Europe and its 15:00. Great sunny day and im off for soccer so ttyl
what about u guys where r u guys from and where u live! ill be happy to read your replies when im back!!
>>259 I live in Tokyo, I'm Japanese and my parents are both Japanese, lol btw, have you ever experienced any racial discrimination because you are japanese by bood? Or, how you look doesn't really matter as long as you speak English like the locals?
No they didn't break up. Yukorin is pretty much in love with Hamaguche. At least, that's lots of weekly magazines say on this matter. They just pretend they broke up from the direction of their agencies, so that their fans don't lose faith in her virginity.
Yeah that's what I was refering to basically, him walking her dog. But the thing that complicates the stuation is Miki Fujimoto's involvement here. The same article says that Hamaguche also walks Miki's dog. So, basically Hamaguche's big cock has been in both Yukorin't vigina and Miki's vigina. Poor Yukorin... I bet she wants his big cock only in her pussy.
LOL!! But there is a possibility that Hamaguchi would be a great breeder that he is good to take care of their doggies! He might not see them privately but only takes care of doggies!
>>261 First thing is i don liv in english speakin country now and i don speak the local language so im not sure if my answer would help u. i lived in states from 0-7 so i don remember much there and u know kids dont discriminate on base of race
i never felt discrimination myself some of my asian freinds says they faced some discrimination though for example asians hav sharp eyes and some ppl made fun of them and stuff but never with me. maybe im the lucky one
i come to remember that there was actually one discrimination i suffered. In Europe there are group of ppl called "skin heads" and they are racist agains coloured-skin and i was punched once for nothing by them... but "skin heads" themselves are minorities and their attitudes and acts are hated by majority of ppl.
And most of my frineds are from international school so thts may be the reason i don face discrimination much so in general im confotable living in forign countries. girls here are pretty too!
a few things i keep in mind is just to be yourself and be proud of who you are and what u are i don mean to be a snobish guy with full of prides but just be kinda majestic In japanese: マイノリティだからとおろおろせずに堂々とする事 and i always try to smile. smile is a key thing in breaking bonds and being sociable me think.
As for what you said in >>272, though, I'll just elaborate on 'Skinheads' a little, for other readers.
Skinheads first came about in the UK in the 1960's, but with greatly varying political views; some very left-wing, some very right-wing. They are known as skinheads simply because of their shaven heads. However, left-wing groups of skinheads generally faded out, and more and more became very fascist and nationalistic. Whenever you see 'nationalistic' here, though, you can assume it means racist. These people are mainly working class, and blame immigrants for social problems in their country and largely discriminate based on skin colour and ethnicity. It is said that, because of these racist and nationalist policies, that they are a type of 'neo-nazi'. 'White power' skinheads even go so far as to use symbols of racism or extremism, such as the (Nazi) swastika, SS symbol, Confederacy flag, and even the Ku Klux Klan symbols. Fortunately, they are not so prevalent in the UK anymore, but larger sects do exist in mainland Europe and the US.
The movie 'American History X' is well worth watching, and deals with themes such as racism and prejudice.
>>274 Hi Nice to meet you! If you are from UK then how did u find this board ? Do you hav any connection with Japan or you even speak Japanese??
what you said about Skinheads is very interesting. lotta things i didn know i bet most of japanese people don know about them at all. i donn wanna interfere into wht other ppl think but they are bad lol
>>275 Nice to meet you too! I found this board quite a few years ago, but at the time I think there were restrictions on foreigners being able to post, so quickly lost interest and went elsewhere. However, I came back a couple months ago and started posting a bit, and have been here ever since.
As for connections, I speak and read some Japanese (not really anywhere near an advanced level), have visited before, and knew some families in the Japanese foreign service when I was younger, and living in other countries.
And you're right, I'd say. Skinheads used to be very varied, but mainly because of their racism, have brought upon themselves a very negative view. They are very narrow-minded, and don't think about the full impact of immigrants and change, and the good it can bring to diversity of culture and also the economy.
>>272 It's good to know you have never suffered discrimination.^^ I see. Skinhead is such a group of people. We can learn a lot of things from the posters from overseas like you and igirisu jin. ^^
>>276 yeah i agree i hate restrictions on foreign hosts. i cant visit some japanese website cuz of this.
so you do speak Japanese! Now im very interested if you check out other thread in 2ch and post in japanese. what thread u check out etc. of course if you don mind
actually do u know what kinda board 2ch is? its seen as sort of underground sort of place with little scent of Otaku lol
>>272 Thanx very much for sharing your experience with us! I think being punched for nothing even once is bad enough, but if you are otherwise safe, it's good to hear. btw, how was your soccer game? Did you win? Also, I'm kind of interested in "girls here are pretty too" part of your post, lol~~
>>278 I think 2CH is sort of like a cyber version of tabloid magazines. So whatever news break up, people access 2CH to try to get insider information only the annonymous could give out. But for accessing 2CH instead of buying tabloid magazines, you need to be fairly comfortable in using the Internet, so I would say, 2CH is much more used by the youger generation than those who are familiar with conventional media. So even though 2CH started off as a place for Otaku people to talk to each other, it has grew a lot and has become much more than the place for limited types of poeple.
I'm not sure but most of people here are male...^^; I thought there would be many female on the "shoujo manga" (girls manga) section...but I found many obscene AA's pictures with a lot of nonsense posts made by otaku guys...Also on the "biyou"(beauty) section, There were a few female and still a lot of otaku kids....lol
the soccer game. i lost the game but it was no big deal the game was nothin like formal game ,it was pick-up-game u know playin with random ppl u meet and stuff so im glad that i got to play.
i don wanna disappoint u guys but my summer holidays started so i can really do whateva i want wheneva i can. i know in Japan college students are still busy in june/july
yeah girls here are pretty. not to say japanese girls are ugly though i feel like european girls at least when im in europe if you know wht i mean lol most of the girls are slavic and they are voluptuous. i guess standards of girl in here is pretty high i don wanna diss イギリス人 and UK but most of my friends who lived there says most girls are fugly and fat.. ive never been to UK though
>>274 It's good to know that France has the decency to always reject Jean-Marie Le Pen!! But then, the fact that he always shows up in the presidential election proves that there are a lot of supporters of him in France...... NF is NG!
>>278 This is the board I visit the most, but sometimes I visit Movies/Cinema because I really enjoy foreign films, and I find watching Japanese language movies helps me with my learning.
>>282 Don't worry, I don't take any offence. In fact, I agree with you about a lot of the girls in the UK. It is quite common to see younger girls here (13-17) wearing very trashy clothing, far too much makeup, and often pushing prams because they manage to get pregnant at a very early age. This is more of a problem in the North of England, where poorer families live. I can't say they are attractive, because they're not.
Saying that, however, there are still plenty of attractive girls. Just not around where I live... :<
>>283 I think every country has their political parties which appeal to fascist groups such as skinheads - for example, we have the BNP (British National Party), who are extremely racist. Unfortunately, they have won a few local by-elections in some run-down towns. ttp://www.bnp.org.uk/candidates2005/manifesto/manfint.htm Notice especially the 'Identity' section of their manifesto for the last elections.
>>284 Question for イギリス人-san, In the 80's in UK, there were a lot of teen-aged girls who wore very thick makeup especially around their eyes, I mean, they used pitch black eye-liners to surround their eyes to the extent that they sometimes looked like Kabuki actors. And I believe some of them colored their hair black as well. My question is, did they represent any belief such as women's liberation, homosexuality, etc.? Or were they just a part of the punk-rock movement back then?
I saw a TV program on the other day about the difference between America jin and Igirisu jin.
One Japanese actor who had lived in England before commented that at the party, if one happens to spot someone staying alone, American tend to come closer to him and would talk to him friendly and make him feel not lonely. It maybe the way to be nice. But British ppl tend to leave him alone since ppl find him that he loves the "loneliness" so try not to disturb him. He might be enjoying being alone.
>>285 Assuming you're talking about female punk-rock of the mid 1980's in the UK, I shall talk about this a little.
The whole 'Punk' movement was based around the idea of rebellion against the government, such as anarchy and activism. However, this was rarely a problem and those who called themselves punks kept largely to themselves. In wanting to separate themselves from the normal definition of society, they dressed very differently from non-punks, often styling their hair to excess, applying various body modifications such as nose-rings, studs, etc. and eye- makeup, as you mention.
So in answer to your question, it wasn't really so much a female specific thing, just the way people heavily into that genre of music or ideology dressed.
>>286 Hmm... I'll try and answer this one tomorrow, because I really need to think about this answer.
>>287 I see. Thank you very much for your answer. I had seen those people on the street in London and lots of postcards with them on with really heavy makeup and spiky hair-do, but never really understood what they were for, but now I've understood. Thank you for taking time.
>>287 Thanks. In my case, I think British way of thinking would be better, or more thoughtful to human's feeling.
If I would be in a somebody's house at a party, and find one girl sitting alone. even if she seems lonely, I never know if she needs a company or not, so I just let her stay alone. If I find something common there, maybe I might talk to her. There are two types of way to let her being alone. With care or without care. So If I were a host of the party, maybe I talk to her. but if not, I let her stay alone.
As far back as Paleolithic times, Native Americans and other traditional peoples have believed the medicine man to be in possession of supernatural healing powers, such as the ability to inflict pain, promote fertility, and secure good hunting and fishing. Many Native Americans regarded illness as resulting from the entry of malignancy into the body; accordingly, their medicine men try to cast out the illness using ritual techniques such as bloodletting, the application of herbs, and
>>291 I think medicine man is a person who has knowledge or skill to compound various kinds of plants and other stuff to creat medicine. Because of that, the person was considered kind of a sorcerer in ancient Africa.
>>289 Even after a night of thinking (sleeping, really), it's still hard to answer! I guess a common perception of the way British people think, is that if someone wishes to talk, they will talk. However, a lot depends on body language too. People can look unapproachable, such as if they cross their arms, whereas holding arms behind their back makes them seem friendlier.
The matter of which is more thoughtful really depends on your own personality though. Speaking to someone who looks excluded at a party would seem a friendly and considerate thing, as people generally attend parties in order to socialise. Then again, sometimes people are dragged there by friends and may wish not to join in. Someone in this position would also keep out the way.
I am really unable to answer your question, sorry! Personally, I'd be happy just to speak to someone who is out the way, as I really don't like crowds of people.
I understand. It really depneds on the person's own personality. Yes. we can't bracket one nationality or race in the same category of people.
I just thought that althuogh British people look less friendly than those of American ppl, as we get to know them more, they are actually more delicately kind and thoughtful ppl, and know how to let other ppl stay in their world instaed of cut in or give an intrusive help (something like to entertain someone who actually wants to stay alone etc...but The kind person may think he is supposed to be appreciated...?).
Yes, it really depends on the person, even people from the same city, same age, etc always differed in personality. ^^;
>>318 he's told us not to blow it cause he knows it's all worthwhile he told me: let the children lose it let the children use it let all the children boogie
Why don't you work at Meat Hope, co, ltd instead of keeping Free albaito? Or if you are 4th grade at a univ, try the company! It's well known for high quality and safety foods.
Hew Raymond Griffiths, the leader of a software piracy group called DrinkOrDie, was extradited to the US from Australia to face copyright infringement charges. Founded in 1993, DOD was responsible for pirating and distributing more than $50 million worth of software, movies, games and music over the internet.
Nah, she is not that naive to think it's real. You know what i mean. What Hamaguche really does is just go there and shoot some clips and go home and makes it look like it's real. We all know that, so does Yukorin.
Well, I haven't seen that show for a long time, so I don't know what's going on right now very much. But, if I assume he is doing what he was dong, when I caught the show couple of times, I bet they don't really do what they claim to be doing. Maybe I'm too skeptic. But one thing is sure, Hamaguche is in no way in danger that warrents Yukorin's concern. It's a TV show, They don't actually do anything to risk their life, do they?
Besides, Hamaguche's cock is gigantic. He could face some dangers in the process, but there always is his enormous cock right beside him to save his day.
You guys love Japanese anime? I found this anime called "Rozen Maiden" at NicoNico Douga. I found myself attracted to its storyline and characters instantaneously. If you haven't heard of it, you should check it out. There are several episodes of dubbed versions in English there, and it seems more is coming. They're done great. Subbed versions, especially done by some fans, totally suck.
Really? so as you said, they are just showing as if they are truely surviving without any resources but actually it was a fake? OMG...I had been believing those kind of shows were true until now..
And yeah, haha even we have never seen Hamaguchi's coc* in real life, we can easily guess it would be big enough from the fact that the two cute girls were completely reeled in him even his looks is not that good. So he should be good in other part. lol
lol "How do you think about it?" I guess your English mistake is on purpose. I know one pretentious girl. She wants to show herself cute or something and makes a lot of grammatical mistakes even she can write it perfect. That's the most peculiar thing for me. ^^;
I think you are not a Japanese. coz normally even how bad the one would be, Japanese rarely mix up with "do" and "ing" things. we usually don't make the mistakes like do you eating? or am I eat? plus the word "peculiar" is the word, English beginners are not able to use.
It is that the cloudiness color liquid comes out from a certain place. It is peculiar to the man. It is often caused by a sexual excitement. Guess what is it and answer in English.
hey, if there is a fire from your house, when you returned home from work or school, you just noticed that there is a fire O_O" what would you do?
My friend experienced it recently....he noticed that there he left some important thing inside his house, he hesitated and people said "don't go inside" but he wanted to go and get the thing back, he eventually has gone inside the fire, but he hesitated for a while. He regrets why he had hesitated but of course we all don't want to be burnt and become like a charred scrap of bacon.
>>376 NEET was originally a classification used by the British government. In the UK, NEET is defined as people aged between 16 and 18 who do not participate in society and who are not eligible for welfare.
However, I know the Japanese definition is somewhat different, and seems somewhat extreme.
when someone has an intention to try something new, but being bewildered, it's not a good idea to push him or threaten him. He may step back again. It's not a matter of his mental that is weak or strong. Even you are irritated, he needs some kind of courage and need to think when to start.
>>383 .......lol are you from America? or Canada? we Asian don't just concern having guts as the best thing. sorry if it sounds negative. but I don't want to fail or being suffered again and again. I am waiting for the time I truly find myself all free from the troubles and feel that I am standing all by my feet. But still I am in some kind of depression. But please have fun life. I have my own way to get back to the normal state. I have too much pains right now so not ready to start yet. Don't think I am a coward. Everybody has his own pace.
>>372 Oh, you missed the big time! Do you know Keira? She is visiting Japan now, and some Chat in English gang got together and met her in Harajyuku, then went to our sacred destination Akiba. Sorry to hear that you didn't even know about the event!!
>>386 that's only what you think you really don't know what condition I am right now. I appreciate your kindness but please just leave me alone at least today. don't think you can manipulate somebody's mind. I am in a terrible depression right now. Don't say never. I might come back, but not now. ok?
>>401 Thanks. But hope you understand all the human have ups and downs. The reasons are all varied. When it really eats into your heart, I guess it's not a good idea to try new things but to stay calm and block the contacts from others especially those who want to hurt you so much.
>>409 In my case, it was not my intention to meet them. But I wanted to meet someone special in the group and went to one "off kai"...but the ONE I wanted to meet so much didn't appear and instead, I met other 3. and one of those 3 was so beautiful! oh gush....I was so lucky to meet her! but she's never replies me since then....hahaha poor me...
In America its less of that we are so far apart and more of that we presume everyone else on the net are killers and/or rapists. Sure we can socialize but meeting in RL is a big no no in our culture.
For example there are several programs on major TV stations that are based on what could happen if you trust someone online and try to meet them.
>>412 In Japan, I dunno but I would say they are a bit not sociable or introvert people and nerd or some might be dangerous people but not as much as those in America... People who want to dig in some certain area as computer, anime, music instead of meeting people outside. Many ppl say the girls who are addicted to net are ugly, but I don't think so. I've heard there are many cute girls out there...
>>413 Yeah americans are more dangerous i guess :P
As for cute girls online, there are plenty but as you can gather if there she is a cute girl she most likely isn't single ^_^' which leads to the issue of you know a cute girl online who is taken. Here in the US most (not all!) girls are mainly scene/emo and are to a degree social misfits. Not to say that all girls are or a HUGE portion but the girls you meet on a message board most of the time in the case of an American site will most likely be social misfits to a degree.
lol, i'm trying to be polite but from experience of being active online for the last 8 years or so its just something I have noticed.
>>422 i couldnt quite hear why she was so mad her mom said she wanted the car on the day of the party but wasnt that the party day? i mean there was a cake and stuff
Emo is a term used to describe people who usually wear tight black jeans, tight zip-up hoodies, have dark hair with long bangs, and wear dark, thick rimmed glasses. They are often seen wearing studded belts. They tend to listen to bands like HIM and My Chemical Romance. They are often laughed at on the internet, especially in America where they are not uncommon.
>>429 thx can you tell exactly what she says though? starting at 52seconds ive tried again and again but cant hear.... at the end she says somethin like i thought it was the car u wanted just wanna study listenin !!
All I can say for sure is what I previously wrote. The mother says some things after the bi+ch is done wailing... What she says might be what the girl was saying, except in a way people can understand.
She does talk really fast. Everybody understands she wants her car on the day of the party. But word by word? My listening comprehension failed me again.
Not only is she talking fast, she is wailing and I don't think even native speakers can understand what she was saying. Don't worry if you didn't understand her. It has nothing to do with your English abilities. It is just like how it is hard to understand what a little kid is saying when he is crying and throwing a tantrum.
Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis shouldn't be too hard to pronounce, as long as you know that pneu, like in the word "pneumonia", is pronounced without the "p". As for the second one, it isn't standard English, but rather a chemical name. Kind of like isopropanol and glycerol, but longer. Much, much, much longer. So there is no need to be able to pronounce it.
I'm sure that chemists use a simplified name, such as calling sucrose "table sugar". The simpler word for the chemical that has just a little under 190000 letters is "titin". Funny how 190000 letters can be put into 5 letters.
On second thoughts, they aren't useless nor meaningless words. It's just that their importance varies depending on who you are. A chemist dealing with complex molecules would find them interesting. On the other hand, they are nothing more than a long and boring word to the layman.
>>444 Each part of the word is a different component with a different meaning. This is mostly determined by it's molecular structure, depending on its pattern of elements and how they are linked together. These compound names, along with a lot of other scientific notation, is mostly based on Latin words.
Of course, not all chemical compound names are boring, such as 'Thebacon', 'Penguinone' and 'Uranate' being just a few examples.
well I smoked few times and didn't go to school for a while and went to there yesterday and today and I had a small quarrel with a teacher. He is very strict and said I am expelled.
I dont mean to be rude, but can you teach me how to speak Japanese? I learned a little bit of it online,but a teacher would be alot better.arigatou, sensei
>>459 I think Starbucks did a great job in not allowing smoking inside the cafe, because until then, cafe and smoking were buddy-buddy with each other. Having said that though, Starbucks is too expensive!!! Espcially their sandwiches! Ripping us off!! BUT, Caramel Machiato is great.....ummmmm............
>>461 Fortunately for us, smoking will be prohibited from all restaurants, pubs, cafés, etc.
I'm really not a big fan of coffee, but I do enjoy Starbucks. You're right though, everything is pretty expensive, but it always seems that way in more upmarket cafés and 'fast' food places, such as Subway.
I do, however, enjoy their Frappuccinos. Traditional Greek iced coffee is really bitter, and even after five satchets of sugar it's usually still quite foul-tasting. But Frappuccinos are wonderful.
>>466 this is like "he didnt even take his eyes off the book to look at me as if he did not hear me" so i suppose the guy reading the book MUSTVE heard but ignored
That's not what I said. The sentence says that you would have thought that he didn't hear the other guy. If it there was only the first part, then it would mean that he didn't hear the other guy. But because of the second part, it means that he DID hear the other guy.
So, this line "you'd have thought he didn't hear me" does say he heard the guy, and it's clear for the native speakers or they would more likely take it says "the guy head him" Am I correct?
>>473 i know what u mean but this part "you'd have thought he didn't hear me." is still what the story teller thought so IMO there is a chance that the guy reading the book was deaf or something but this storyteller reasonably beleaved that he(the reader) must have heard the storyteller.in this case the reader did not hear anything at all.
>>475 The arguement was going on last night, and didn't come to conclusion.
May be we might as well let it fade away, but I think it would be helpful for the English learners who are wondering which is right to show the answer of it.
its just because the 2 languages are totally different lol English>Japanese Japanese>English are both difficult irrelevant of complications of the langueages themselves
I think English is relatively easy to learn once you know the basic grammar and stuff. I mean, it doesn't have grammatical gender like French and other European languages, does have only 26 letters , or 52, unlike Japanese or Chinese who have thousands of characters, and so on.
I'm not sure but its simplicity might be the result of the refinement of it through globalization in 18th and 19th centuries, because Old English is much harder to understand. It used to have gender, right?
Hmm. It seems I'll be able to take a Japanese class this fall, supposing everything goes as planned. This should supplement my private studies of the language.
>>465 Is it still true that English people prefer tea to coffee? I'm asking this because you sound like one. Also, do you guys like toast done on one side, as in the Sting's song?
>>496 I think that most English people do prefer tea to coffee, especially the older generations. Something about rationing of food during the war, I think, because they often have strange eating habits too. It was hard to get good meat during those years, so they made do with what they had. A lot of old people like to eat the gristle and fat because they're still in the habit of not wasting anything. However, I really can't stand tea or hot drinks in general.
I would love to know how to toast bread on one side! Whenever I make toast, it's always very lightly toasted on both sides. But yes, I think I'd like one-sided toast. How do you prefer your toast?
>>497 In Japan, those who experienced the war tend not to like what they had to eat during that time, e.g. sweet potatos, pumpkins, all sorts of grains other than rice, etc. etc. because due to lack of food, they were forced to eat those evey day and totally sick of them.
As for toast, I think Japanese like thicker bread (like 1.5cm to 2cm thick) than thin ones you eat in England, beause that way, outside is crispy and inside is still soft. That goes very well with butter!
>>498 Hmm... I must try that with toast, thanks for the suggestion. The bread I get is usually only about 1cm thick, and it's medium-sized slices. Are you talking about white or brown bread though? White's the only way to go when toasted and eaten only with butter.
During the war, each person here was entitled to: - 113 grams of butter or lard (fat) - 340 grams of sugar - 113 grams of raw ham or bacon - 2 eggs - 99 grams of cooked bacon or ham I'm not so sure about milk though. Clothes could also be bought using the rationing tokens. There were exceptions for pregnant and nurshing mothers, infants, and children under 5 years of age - things like extra milk or vegetables. Of course, there was also a black market in food products.
Now this is a story all about how My life got flipped, turned upside down And I'd to take a minute, just sit right down I'll tell you how I became the fresh prince of 2channel
In west Akihabara, born and raised In the maid cafes is where I spent most of my days Chilling out, maxin, relaxing all cool And fapping to galges after my school When a drunken old man, who was up to no good Started making trouble in my train's hood I got in one little fight even though I was scared And thought I've got to post this on the internet at my home
I waited for the mail and when it came in The package said Hermes and some teacups were inside If anything I could say that I was surprised And I thought I don't get it, yo home to 2ch
I posted my story at 7 or 8 And Nanashi yelled Kitaaaaaaa! Call her later! I looked at my topic, I was finally there To sit on my computer as the prince of Otaku
>>499 When referring to the war, we consider those foods 'luxuries.' Peple were lucky if they got to eat something, anything really, during WWII. It is well known that they never encountered sugar back then.
>>502 I guess it helps that most of the UK is covered in farmland. Most of Britain used to be covered in thick forest, but a huge percentage of it was cut down when it was settled by more 'civilised' people, such as the Romans, for building supplies and to be able to expand farming communities. Britain used to have much more in the way of natural beauty, but this was sacrificed for crops and fields. There are, however, still a few places preserved, such as the New Forest, and some mountainous regions, which are quite barren anyway. These places are pretty, though, but because such a small percentage of the country is made up of these, there are always a lot of people there.
I have no idea what the point of all that was, sorry, just felt like writing.
well...I want to contact someone but that person block me and I am even not sure if it is the right thing to contact her since I don't know she really hates me or he doesn't hate me.
I'm soso look. But I am much older than her. SHE. I want to send her a mail but maybe she will ignore me. or even she won't ignore it, I don't know if I should send it or not. Also if she thinks I am annoying I better stop it here. Also I think she deserves a better boy. I am so old for her. If I'd chase her too much, she will be sick. BTW, I am 36 and she's 20. So I better stop now....I am still thinking what to do... BUT I LIKE HER SO MUCH!!!!
>>506 Does it rain a lot at this time of year in UK? I sometimes watch Wimbledon tennis on TV at this time of year and matches are often delayed or suspended due to rain. Is it rainy season in UK? Just curious.
>>521 It does rain quite a lot this time of year, mainly from April through to June/July. This year, however, has seen the highest amount of rain since around 60 years ago.
In japan, june through early July is usually a rainy season going. Do you know that? Many high school girls get caught in a shower and their bras can be clealy seen through their white ... yummy
The rain varies greatly in the US. Where I live (colorado) we hope for rain mainly from March to May. The rest of the summer is dry and hot then it starts to snow from October till early May.
>>524 I love rain. Even though it plasters my hair to my head and makes it strange and flat. Being outside, though, feels much fresher, and there is the distinct smell of rain.
I don't think I'll compare it to any parts of my body though.
Can anyone give me some informaion about the song which is used in the show 『The Hills』 on MTV? It goes like [ 〜I'm over it〜] by female voice. I have no clue who sings that song. I want to buy the song If I get to know aho she is!
Who wound want to know anything about that backward stupid place like Colora.... ..?? Is Colorado where Eric Cartman from? Wow.. I wish my penis is as cool and awesome as Colorado... Do people who speak like Cartman actually exist? like "suck my ball" or "Fuckin' Jew"?
I love the "Chinpokomon" episode of South Park. That episode was never aired here in Japan, because it totally makes fun of Emperor Hirohito of all people lol If you make fun of the Emperor family in any way on TV in Japan, you are done. I wish they loosened up a little like British people do towards their royal family.
By the way, our penises are really small. Your vagina probably doesn't register anything.
>>531 Welcome back Keira! So good to hear that you had a wonderful time in Japan.
夜露死苦 is a phonetic equivalent of 'Yo-ro-shi-ku', which you must know what it means. Gangs, especially motorcycle gangs create a lot of those, and put them on their banners, uniforms, etc. Anyway, talk to you later!
>>530 Only really the Lake District. And they're not so much mountains as quite large hills and valleys. But since you're feeling patriotic, I could too, and claim that MY (other) country also has part of quite an extensive mountain range.
Also, sorry to hear about YOUR country's airport. No idea why anyone would do that to Glasgow though. At least nobody was seriously hurt. Aside from the guy in the jeep who caught fire, I guess.
>>531 Oh Keira is back! what have I missed? I didn't even know she's gone to Japan? I mean she came to Japan? OMG...how come I didn't know....*shoot* So you had a great trip? and that made me laugh! Where did you manage to buy one of those T-shirts? Means Yoroshiku as >>532 said and also from the kanji, you can get the meaning as, night dew gives you pain and you'd die. hahaha ^^;
夜 can be read "yo", 露 "ro" 死 "shi" 苦 "ku". おはよう could be written like ”尾 歯 夜 宇”, though, this, nobody does it like this.
What they do is to find kanji that suits your word or phrase, and put them together. It's random. But those people tend to use kanji with dark kind of meanings because, for them, it's cooler that way. Lately a lot of idol otaku does this on their toppuku.
Also, I meant no offence or anything, but I just have to call English people out when they start claiming that the Scottish highlands are part of their country, you know? :P
And yeah, I actually found the entire thing at Glasgow Airport hilarious. If this really was a terrorist attack, it has to be the most half-assed attempt yet.
>>532 Thanks! wow, I was wondering what the kanji was for. I was a little confused by it, but thanks for the explanation. That's kind of funny. xD
>>534 Hi there! Yes, Japan was fun. I took the subway around Tokyo! We went to Asakusa, Ginza, Shinjuku, Harajuku, and Shibuya! We saw Mt.Fuji as well! Then We took Shinakansen to Kyoto and went to Gion and saw geisha! The fushimi Inari shrine is so beautiful! And ginkakuji. <3 I bought a beautiful green Yukata with pink and lavender designs on it, with a sakura themed Obi. It's so pretty!
As you can see, I did many things any typical tourist would do. xD I thought it was funny how popular cell-phone charms are! Even old bussiness men have them! and more than one on each phone!
keira seems to have enjoyed herself a lot in Japan. I'm glad to hear that. ha- That things hanging from cell phones are called cell phone charms i leanrned something today. i have no cell phone charms on my cellphone. i don't see the charm with cellphone charms. some of my friends have gazillions of them on their cell phones. sometimes, the cellphone charms themselves are actually bigger than the cellphone they cling to. it's ridiculous so,, why do they do that?
I guess if you put the phone in a pocket or bag, it's easy to grab the phone quickly since the charms are so big and easy to find.
It's so quiet on the streets and stations as well. Because on buses/trains in America, if we are bored, we'll just start talking with strangers. But In Japan people seem to love text-messaging and internet surfing on their phone. But that's increasing here in America too, I think. A lot of young people just listen to their iPod or text-message. But I think It's more fun to be social and talk with people. :]
keira's arrival gives a light to this thead. and her description about Japan is so true.^^; I think it is a bit weird all the ppl in the train do text-mesaging all the time. Keira, I wanna see your pic in the green and purple designed kimono! you must be so pretty in that kimono! ^^
yes yes, in Japan, you are not supposed to talk, even among friends, in the bus or train. so cellphone use, excluding emailing or other fun stuff you can do without talking, is extremely discouraged. I think it's because everybody is tired in japan, so they want to have some sleep when they can. Since talking prevents people from sleeping, it is no good in the bus or train.
>>554 Thank you! I haven't tried it on yet, it might be too long. xD But I want to do a photoshoot in it! But a yukata might look weird on someone who isn't Japanese, especially since I have blonde hair. >_>;;
Also, how do Japanese people carry around so many coins?! you have 1's,5's,10's,50's,100's,500's...It was hard carrying around so much change!And Heavy! LOL. But at least it came in handy with the vending machines.(I'm a fan of the "Qoo" sour apple drink).
Japanese people are very shy. they don't socialize much. they don't want go outside of their own comfort zone where people you don't know don't exist. cellphones facilitate that kind of tendency. cellphones fit extremely well with those charactarics of typical Japanese people that's why cellphones are extremely popular in Japan. is my theory.
>>555 Hmm, I see. I did see many people trying to rest their eyes. My mom and I talked on the subway a lot... oh no, I hope that wasn't too rude... It's just...too weird to stand there not saying anything.I want to be friendly. LOL, now I guess I was just a loud American...xD
But you are supposed to turn off the mobile phone on the train, especially when you are near the special seats for the eldery etc. Because the radio waves to/from the phone can disturb the pace-maker for people with heart problems.
>>559 Akihabara is a place with lots os electronic stores right? But Many Japanese electric products don't work outside of Japan, so be careful of what you buy.
But Nintendo DS games work on American DS's. That made me happy. I got the game "押す!闘え!応援団!"
>>565 Yes! lol.They seem to go together well.haha.
>>566 No, I didn't, is that in akihabara? But I did see a few EGL (Elegant Gothic Lolita) shops, and I wanted to look around since they're so interesting, but my mom thinks that EGL/EGA and baby-doll/maid dresses are perverted and disgusting. Y__Y So I didn't get to check it out.
>>545 None taken, and I do understand, the northern Welsh are very much the same. Except you Scots are a lot friendlier. It would sort of be nice if there was anything actually worth mentioning in England along those lines, though. :<
I don't really know much about or actually care about what happened in London, either. It's a filthy city, full of litter and pigeons (and Londoners). Two unexploded bombs and a fiery jeep don't exactly warrant a 'critial' terror alert, in my opinion. Even though I'm all for tolerance and stuff, though, I think the Gay Pride parade was scarier than either of them.
As for my other comment, I hold dual nationality with Canada.
>>522 Thanks for the link to BBC. What a flood! We also have torrential rain in rainy seasons like that. I hope no death hasn't been reported there.
>>570 You mustered up your courage and talked to cosplay girls or take your photos taken with them in Harajuku? Other than Harajuku, did you have a chance to talk to locals in Japanese? I definately want to see you in the yukata. Would you upload your photos in the yukata somewhere cause the only photo of you we know is this.
>>564 DVDs and such run on different region codes too. I'm cheap anyways, all I plan on spending money on is food, a hotel (what hotel I go to might end up being... an experiance of it's own), and such.
I'm in a serious depression. I better go to the suicide web site. haha there is nobody I can talk my true feeling. I know I have to do something about this, but I am just too tired...
>>572 Lol. Nice picture there.It's sad that bad cosplay pictures are so famous on the internet. I've actually seen some really fantastic cosplays that deserve more attention.
Anyways! It was raining, so I couldn't take any pictures, but my brother did. There weren't that many people there, since it was about 7pm, but they looked very interesting! No, I didn't ask if I could take a picture, because they all looked so fantastic in their outfits that I didn't want to disturb them somehow...(usually I don't get shy, but for some reason I was) I didn't get to use my Japanese much at all actually. :[ I usually was w/ my family the whole time, so I would order for them in Japanese. The waitresses liked that a little. I only got to have a conversation once, and that was with my Japanese independant guide (The ones who take you around if you pay for their meals ect.) He's a student, So I got to ask him about his favorite bands (He like Ajikan too!) and he told me he like karaoke and plays guitar for his band. But he was very shy and didn't talk to much. He just navigated us through Nikko, and he watched us as we took a ton of pictures. n_n I got to try Soba there. It's pretty good!
I am better now. it goes up and down. problem comes from many places. work, school, family etc. if you have somewhere I can pour my true feeling, tell me where it is. I only know 2ch and few others but I don't feel like I am talking to a real person. I know that's only my problem. maybe I'll find a way to get away from this black hall.
>>590 " Taking life for granted" is when someone isn't valueing life the way that they want to or should. life is something that only you can control, so people should try their best to live a happy peaceful life. Busy students and bussiness men/women seem to forget about living a happy life, and settle for just a 'content' life, which may make them depressed and bored.
I'm sorry that you can't find people to talk to. I'm not very good at advice either. u__u;; But I think that there are many forums online that offer support for depressed people. As for outside of the internet, I'm not sure what you can do. In America there are hotlines and number that you can call for help, but I don't know about Japan...
>>591 yeah, thanks. I'll look for it. or just do something else and try not to be depressed. but today I don't know, I am too depressed. I know tomorrow, I become very cheerful. thanks Keira
>>593 yeah. yesterday, I was like a baby and could laugh a lot. but today no more and all I do is cyring. please don't say I am weak. sometimes we need to stay this way. life is not just black and white. thanks keira. I don't ganbaru today though....
>>593 sorry keira. ok instead of going to some suicide or deressing sites, I go to a Japanese tutorial site and help people who want to learn Japanese languge. It makes me feel better.
the electronic product with a lot of hightech functions tend to break easily while simple products don't break often. which one do you like? of course, everybody wants the one with advanced technology and infragible product. I'm trying to be like that. wait for awhile. need a lot of checkings before that product is released! ^^;
why the products break down easily because of the electric system, so if you don't care about those functions, simple ones would survive long. checking is important before it has gotten out into the world.
I was going to buy an iphone untill I used my freinds for a bit. You can't have custom ringtones. There is no video and you can't save images from the very slow web browser. And there is no file browser at all.
>>588 I think I undersatand how you get shy when you are in a situation in which you speak in a foreign language. Anyway, it's good to hear that you enjoyed Japan.
Did your mom design the whole trip by herself, such as where to go, what time you would go where and what transportation you would use? Or did the whole trip in Japan designed by a travel agency? Was the tour guide in Nikko originally part of your travel plan or you found out that a tour guide is available on the spot?
You don't make a sound when you eat noodles such as soba but we do. Didn't you feel annoyed about slurping sound other Japanese made there?
>>598 What would you like to do in Japan? Shopping electoronic gadgets in Akihabara is the top priority?
I wonder what foreigners would want to do in Japan when they had a chance to visit here. Before Japanese anime got popular overseas, I think Kyoto was the most popular turist destination. But maybe things have changed and Akihabara become the must-see for them.
So... hmm.. It is so much better to use the phrase " enjoyed staying in japan" to make it clear what you want to say instaed of just using "enjoyed japan". The grammer you used at the beginning of the sentence which is "in which you speak in a foreign language" did not make any sence. The correct grammer is "in which you speak a foreign language".
Well,it is not a big deal but the native speakers would notice that you are an ESL student or something.
One of my friends from US told me about how they can notice whether if she or he is a good enlish speak or not. When they hear the grammer mistake such as using "a" or"the" in the wrong place such as "oh, look at the John!", they can just consider she or he as a non native speaker right away.
X using "enjoyed japan". * using doesn't sound natural.
X The grammer you used at the beginning of the sentence which is "in which you speak in a foreign * The flow of the sentense doesn't sound natural at all.
X did not make any sence. * "does" not make any sense is far better than "did" not make any sense. Plus, actually, it does make sense. Saying "not make sense" is going overboard.
>>620 Your English is full of mistakes and unatural expressions. As I said, just nitpicking mistakes is easy. You need to be more humble and all you have to do is just improving your English instead of correcting someone's English and feeling you are better.
Xmakes the japanese english skill lower. *I know what you are trying to say but "skill" doesn't sound natural here.
>>608 Even though eating noodles quietly and not letting them dangle, but wrapping then around a fork so it can be put into the mouth, is considered the 'proper' and polite way to eat noodles in the West, it is still an archaic practice left over from dining etiquette a couple centuries back. It is much easier (and far more fun) to be able to just slurp them.
>>590 "Taking <something> for granted" is an expression which means not appreciating the value of something from everyday life. For example, most of us take running water and electricity for granted, when there are still many people in the world who do not have it, and some even dying because they lack it.
So what's being said is that your quality of life is probably much better than that of many other people in the world, and that it would be a better idea to find something to distract yourself, or to make yourself happier, than to end your life and never have the opportunity to feel happy or make others feel happy again.
phase 1.... school english phase 2.... using the internet and other media you start learning english as a real language (as opposed to the math formulaish high school english) phase 3.... you feel superior to phase 1 people, you pick up "cool" words like "dude", "ain't", "got no pants on", etc which phase 1 people are usually not familiar with, and overuse them also have this urge to correct other peoples english phase 4.... after a year or 2 you suddenly realise how "gay" it is to use those informal spoken words with crappy grammar, and start hating phase 3 people with passion phase 5.... you are done hating and your soul has become clear once again, you embrace all and ascend to heaven
I think this discussion has reached an important point where I must explain the difference between the word "pants" in British English and American English.
In American English, pants is the use they use for trousers.
In British English, pants is the word we use for underwear.
I don't bloody hell understand what イギリス人 explained that for, mate. What does the difference in the meanings between the two have to do with what's going on in this thread? mate?
>>640 American people call the ground level floor the first floor, while British people call it the ground floor. British people's first floor is American people's second floor. I wonder what would happen to them when they agreed to meet on the first floor of a building.. I wonder if they could meet. Are there any big differences that could lead to a big misunderstanding with American?
In American English, "rubber" is a term used to refer to condoms. In proper English, "rubber" is what Americans call an "eraser".
So, for example, a British man could ask for some rubber in America and get a pack of condoms. Or, an American man could ask for rubber in Britain and not get the thing he wanted.
Americans think they own the English language, but if you listen to their euphemisms and swear words, they aren't very creative. It sounds strange, but when you hear someone in America say "fuck", it sounds sort of fake. Go to England and the same word sounds better. At least in their songs it does.
I have to say that Americans are definately more lower class than the British. For example, in Britain, you have "British Humour" based on wit, while Americans mainly watch slapstick comedy.
hey! The U.K is under attack ! LOL Terrorists bombed a airport! I think the U.K has got what it deserves. They killed millions of innocent people in Iraq and still keep killing. Why do they love killing innocent people? I don't understand that. Anyway, just one bomb isn't enough for the U.K to change their killing ways, I'm sure.
I'd just like to mention that this "bombing" was, in fact, 2 people driving a burning jeep into the entrance. One person hurt their leg a little bit, and one of the drivers caught fire too. Your case would be helped if you were able to research facts.
The U.K people is as guilty. I'm sure it's easy for the British people to deny that, and believe the war in Iraq is just or the goverment is doing it. In reality, the British people just like killing millions of innocent people. Why else do they still keep killing innocent people? If the British people wanted, they could easily stop doing that. You can spin the truth all you want, but the truth remains.
>>657 Have you just broken up with a British girl and have a grudge on UK or something? I don't see any point of accusing only UK regarding operations in Iraq.
Don't forget that JSDF aircraft don't kill millions of innocent people. 657, if you want someone to blame, blame America for wanting a grip on the oil market in the first place.
>>608 The trip that we went on had only morning tours. So we would have the rest of the afternoon to ourselves.(which is when we went to harajuku, shibuya, ginza, roppongi, ect) The trip to Nikko was offered by the tour, but we thought it would be cheaper to use an independant guide, so we used that instead. haha. Although, It was our guide's first time ever, so he spoke about as much English as I can speak Japanese. But that was okay, since i think that if he could speak english well, he might be too shy to use it anyways. n_n
When We were eating soba, our guide was slurping rather noisely, and my mom was trying very hard not to laugh. She didn't find it rude, but she did find it funny.I tried slurping, but I can't quite do it as well.lol. I was afraid I'd slurp it too fast and the soba juice would fly onto my clothes and hair.lol.
>>646 I'm American, but that still made me lol. xD
I think that Americans and the English are much more similar than we would like to believe. xD I'm not sure why there is a bit of discontentment between the US and UK. The UK undoubtedly has a long lasting and interesting history and culture, but I don't think that Americans are stupid or less sophisticated. O_o Every nation has smart people and dumb people. Although... i do worry about my generation lately...so media/celebrity obsessed and selfish. =____=;;
hi. i wanna join you. im a university student.and working for a restaulant at roppongi because i wanna go to english school,like berlitz. but i cant afford to.but there are so many oppotunity to talk to foreigner in english. my english is not good.but i WANT to be a good english speaker. yoroshiku onegaishimasu.
Also, I think the US vs. UK thing is mainly just aggravated and exaggerated through random people trolling online. When people of either country meet face to face, it's usually much friendlier, I find.
>>674 Welcome! I hope posting here helps you improve your English.
As Keira said yesterday, it's silly to be so devestated, I will try to do new things to change myself slowly. although I can't make myself vibrant yet, it is important to try to find an exit. I've been visiting one Japanese tutorial site and J'nse language learners appreciate me a lot. And not many J'nse visit there, maybe me and one girl only, so if you are interested in it, pls let me know. it is important to feel that you are needed in this world. I go to school from tomorrow. I have one person that I can talk to. and even I don't talk at all, it's just a school, so learning is important and I can laugh when somebody says a joke. better than being too lonely.
>>672 yes, it's not a matter of nationalities but individual's qualities. Every nation has smart and dumb people. But IMO, if you come to Japan, what did you think? they are different from American, right? so it' the same thing. When I went to Europe, I felt they are more similar to Japanese in terms of their natural behavior, take things as it is, no more or no less, modesty. I feel American value win and lose or try to be tough. I feel Europeans are more sophiciticated, because of the history, inheritance from old generations make people that way. On the other hand, I don't see those sophisitication in U.S. But so far, I've only met pure and good hearted American people in my life, so I also like American.
>>684 well, I have't registerd or anything, but it looks totally cool.
I browsed throgh a couple of pages and started to wonder if this was a Japanese tutorial site. Is it really a K-POP site. isn't it? Since I don't have a Korean friend, it's nice to be a member there and make some friends. But I'm also wondering if the site has a mixed participants from other nations. Do you know if there are a lot of people from different contries in the site?
>>685 I'm not sure. but I would say most of them are Asians who live in various countries, U.S., Europe, Taiwan, Australia. It is mainly a website for the entertainment, mostly about Asian music or movies and dramas. But where I showed was a tutorial thread. I used to post on the drama or music section before. It is a huge site.
>>681 Yeah, I am not against American or anything but I think that they take too much value on wining. Also they probably think fighting spirit can beat every little hazard. I have never lived in U.S.A, so I can't say they are this or that. Just an idea gotten from everyday's news, what I feel from the hollywood movies, how they behave, etc.. Sorry if I am wrong.
>>681 Thank you, I see your point. It's also how Americans are raised. We're encouraged to voice up and speak out if we have to. I guess Americans are more...I don't know... Dramatic, maybe?
>>689 Actually, I would agree with you a little bit there.Competiveness is pretty big here... Although i'm more of the "Can't we all just get along?" type. Yeah, I'm kind of whimpy. haha
>>690 I'm not sure whether I should be flattered or disturbed. O_o;; lol
Ah, ah, ah, I come back to see a lot of anti-American postings again. :( I'd like to point out that many of you are generalizing too much and not taking certain factors into consideration. First off, it really depends on how the specific person is raised. The US is a melting pot of many, many cultures, and we have one of the highest if not the highest immigration rate in the world. As such, it is not fair to say that it's the US itself that is at fault for some of the people contained within its borders. It's just like anything else - the sore thumb stands out. I'm sure I've used the analogy before, but if you're in a beautiful mountain range and stub your toe, your attention is on the toe and not on the mountains. What's bad in society tends to stand out and be more apparent. It's human nature to be pessimistic in this manner. Every culture on the planet has its bad apples, and the US is not an exception. While to call the US a culture of its own is a little too abstract (due to it being largely a mix of subcultures), I think you'll all get my point. I've not found any foreigner who has found me to be rude. Nor have I found one who has openly labeled me as arrogant, or anything of the sort. I work with a lot of foreigners on a lot of projects that I work in - people from all around the globe. So to say that all Americans are rude or that all Americans are fat or any generalization of the sort is like saying all English people like tea or all Japanese eat sushi. Stereotypical nonsense. >>648 Where did you get the ridiculous idea that we think we own the language? Another senseless generalization that I don't believe is common enough to even apply in this case. I could go on, but for the sake of brevity, I'll leave it at that.
>>695 Indeed. It's just become a fad to dislike the US. It's kind of sad, really, how people fall right into it. It really shows which types of people are leaders and can think for themselves, and which are simply mindless followers.
As you probably already know, that a research result shows that only 20% of people in any size of society is capable and sensible. This theory itself may also sound too stereotypical, but I kind of belive it. 20% thinks, but remaiing 80% are either quite mob or loud mob!! I try to belong to the 20%.
OMG....I wanted talk to Ether live...but he's probably gone.. Oyasumi~~ from tonight there will be a drama "Hanazakari no Kimitachi e" Horikita Maki-chan is soooooo cool. She'll be disguised as a boy in a boy's school. I bet this drama's producer knows how to show her true beauty. She would be x10 prettier in boy's style than just being as a ordinary girl....geez how cute....
Oh there you are! lol nah...I just found you are a nice guy, so...@_@;;
well good night but I think it must be very late in your place, or even in the morning? when you can't sleep, I guess it's ok to awake and watch dvd or something...I often do that. ^^ but if you'd successfully fall in sleep good night! (^^)/~
I've been awake since yesterday sometime, so I'll go to sleep in a little while here, I suppose. In any case, my body is tired so I'm going to go lay down - whether sleep comes soon or not, I won't know until the time comes. :(
There seemed to be another case. She seemed to sell her verginity successfully. Do you know how she's doing now? Is the Bristol University a prestageous university? One article says her father is a doctor. I wonder if it still is hard to pay tuition even if your fathrer is a doctor
>>717 All I know about the student who sold her virginity in 2004 is that it was a 44 year old telephone engineer who won the auction. I feel that anyone who offers themselves for money is still a kind of prostitute. Personally, I feel that if there is no emotional attachment, it is not worthwhile at all, and gives away one part of our lives which we can still count as truly personal.
>>721 Thank you for your response and the link. I don't understand the way she chosed to pay back her debt for tuition. Maybe her good academic record doesn't necessarily lead to a wise decision.
>>672 I haven't traveled overseas so I don't know what it's like, but seems like you can design your travel plan to a certain extent. It was good your mom didn't take slurping as rude.
i have no time to get down on this board cuz there are many things to do. making a paper issue in english is my asignments for my class. that is not so difficult. but dull...lol
can i ask my serious worry. she is my friend at the parttime job, and so interasting person. i like her as a FRIEND. but she call me darling, and send me email everyday for nothing. i hate her behavior as like we are close. i wanna say please, please dont sent me email day after day, at least. but,she is a friend in job. so i wannt to get some cloud in our relationship.(can you get what i mean?)
first of all, are you a boy? I thought you were a girl.. anyway, I don't get what you mean by some cloud....
if I were you, I'd just say "I have somebody I seriously in love, so sorry but pls look for somebody else". is it too harsh? but being straight forward is better than being too ambiguous in this case. ^^;
>>725 yeah, i already did the way you think. like,yes or no mail. but she is taugh,,,even today, i got a mail from her...
728 :726=head for bed at 2am:2007/07/04(水) 00:45:17
>>727 you probably made her believe that you have a feeling towards her? or you had date with her more than once? then the situation would be different.
729 :726=head for bed at 2am:2007/07/04(水) 00:50:42
um...if you gave her an expectation that if she works hard, her wish be granted, of course she would work hard on it....so you told her that you like her?
Interesting stuff in the news about defense minister Kyuma. Do you think America should issue a formal appology for the atomic bombings as per Ichiro Ozawa's request?
>>730 As a Japanese, yes, I do think the US owes an apology to those who have suffered from the bombing, especially because the US could have chosen to hold back the second one instead of dropping two. Japan was devastated and it was a matter of time for them to surrender. I thinkg it's clear that the US's intention was not just to end the war but also to show off some of its technology and military ability, mainly to Russia, and to experiment the state-of-the-art "genocider."
You can watch where 2ch's servers are and how they are managed. In part 4, you can watch an interview of president of a company which takes care of 2ch's servers on the West coast in US.
As an American, I think the USA should issue a sincere apology. Not very likely to happen now that we live under the rule of an insane dictator. One who mocks his people daily and causes untold suffering. This is going to be the saddest 4'th of July ever.
As an alien, I'm just interested in natural resources on the earth, so I'm not going to explore your anal. I'm going to explore African continent though. Wait... Maybe I'll explore your anal searching for methane.
1: It would take you 5 munites to tell the stories of your entire school life if you tried to coondense it.
2: You can condense all of your school life events into 5 minutes story.
3: You could tell your stories in 5 minutes of everything you had experienced in your school years if you would make it brief.
4: Your entire school life can be condensed into 5 minutes story.
Let's say, if you told kids in a primary school that there used to be wooden refrigerators which used no electricity, they would not believe you.
1: You would probably be challenged by them saying how you can cool the contents without electricity. 2: They would even challenge you since they probably believe that it is impossible to cool the contents without electricity. 3: That would get you into a situation where they challenge you with the belief that it is impossible to cool the contents without electricity.
>>740 Honestly, they're all a little odd sounding. If I were to phrase it, I would say something along the lines of...
It would take a mere five minutes to tell all the tales of your school life.
...Or something along those lines. Really, there's a large number of ways you could put it. If you want it short and to-the-point, an adaptation of your (4) would be adequate (with a small grammatical correction: "Your entire school life can be condensed into a five minute story.").
With English, you can put the same point or meaning in a very large number of different ways. There isn't a "right" and a "wrong" way, so as long as it's grammatically correct and carries the meaning you wish to convey, you're just fine!
I just wanted to know how to make them sound more acceptable to a native speaker. I really appriciate your taking time to answer my questions. I used to live in Amarica but still I am struggling to put it without any errors.
I'm sorry to bother you, but I'd also like you to read the other line starting with "Let's say" and tell me how you would put it to mean the following (1)-(3).
>>721 So you mean, top universities and prestigious universities are different things? I'd assume Oxford and Cambrige (spelling?) are considerd prestigious?
Feel free to post more if you need further assistance (everyone else can do the same, as well). I don't mind helping out when I'm around to read.
>>747 Wow, you got me there. I tend to make that mistake a lot. I also tend to write blonde instead of blond when referring to a male's hair as well. I have to catch myself on these errors, as they're too easy to make! You'll find a lot of native speakers misspelling refrigerator, I'm willing to bet. It just sounds like there would be a 'd' sound there, so it's common to place it there.
I'm impressed that you caughtthat. Thanks, too - I might've kept on with that had you not caught it.
>>756 When they're saying 'a lady', they're referring to the traits of a 'lady' (that being polite, socially respectable, and overall a reserved and cool-headed woman (it's the female form of 'gentleman' basically)). Therefore, to be "three times a lady", I suppose, would mean that they were a lady three times over - or, put differently, that they were extremely well mannered. It's kind of hard for me to put into words, so bare with me. It's a song, and meanings behind lyrics are always hard to explain. :(
>>760 I suppose it would be, but it would be kind of strange to say to some woman. First, if they know anything about older music they'd know it was a lyric, second, it just sounds weird...
Of course someone could try to be charming and sing the song. I've seen that happen. It's rather funny for the onlookers - and usually embarrassing for the woman (but endearing nonetheless). More common in bars, I'd say. xD
Mmm, I wouldn't say that's quite it. To be a lady is to be a well- mannered woman. So to be three times a lady would be to be an extremely well mannered woman, I suppose.
>>763 Yep yep *nods* so he loves her coz she is so faithful and well mannerd and kind beautiful understanding smart sexy etc...gee I need to be a 3 times lady lol so that my bf won't dump me. lol ^^
>>778 I actually don't have a cell-phone. I don't need one yet. I will need one soon, though, so I'll be getting one within the next few months probably.
>>781 There was a controversy over the weird handle on his head. Supposedly, it was a symbol recommending homosexuality or something. I can't remember... it was years ago.
>>785 I have one. it is really good. I always keep in with me. I never forget to bring when I go out. If I forget to put it in my purse I become so sad....T_T
>>781, >>787 On the Teletubby thing, some of the more extreme Christians decided the triangle on his head was the Gay Pride symbol, his purple colouring was the Gay Pride colour, and he used to carry a handbag around with him all the time, which is pretty gay I think.
>>796 REALLY? OMG...so is that bad? my friends called me a purple teletubby on the other day even I am not a gay....(they are north american ppl so I'm sure they meant "gay")!!! Prob they thought I am a gay....!!!
>>806 I dunno the gay's world... but they find the real gays easily, right? so if 798 is not the realy gay, even how he likes to wear pink or puple outfits, the real gay can tell he is not one of the peers immediately! so no worries the real non-gays will have you in a group one day.....lol ^^;
>>797 Gunther cracks me up!! First, I thought he was old, but he looks younger now especially in his recent clip. I've even started to think he looks like Beckham a little bit. lol
So I'm leaving for Japan 2 weeks from today and will be staying in Shinagawa. My questions following this statement I am responsible for finding ticket and train information for traversing the Yamanote line but I cant find any good information surrounding the fact that we only need day tickets. Anyone from the Tokyo area have a good understanding of what tickets we should get and how much they cost?
It says 3-day pass costs \10,000 (about $80.00). I guess this is for the people traveling around Eastern Japan, rather than Tokyo area. I also found 1-day pass limited to Tokyo area for \2,300, but it's still kind of expensive. If you're gonna ride just Yamanote line, and not plannig to get on and off many times, it might be better to get a prepaid card called 'suica.' You don't get any discount, but you can charge an exact amount you'll be spending. It's actually pretty fun to use it, all you have to do is slap it against the gate machine.
>>821 Oh! I stayed in Shinagawa too! Yes, use the JR/yamanote line. It's very useful. I used it to get to Ginza, Harajuku, and Shibuya! And it(JR) has signs in english inside the train. If you're just going to one place in a day, just buy a ticket using those little dispensing machines, but use the english option. If you want to use the subway to get around quite a few places, I'd use the Daypass. SO much easier than buying new tickets over and over.
>>827 Oh! "Suica"? the first time we ever used the subway, we didn't know that we had to put the ticket into the gate machine so that we could leave the station, so we watched what other people were doing. Mom saw someone slap their card onto the circular area, but she didn't see the card in his hand! so she walked by, slapping her hand on the machine, and it tried to close on her, but she got through in time. LOL. We all laughed at her about that for a while. We asked her: "What did you expect? For it to read your palm print? Japan isn't THAT advanced, mom" lol. I feel a little bad for teasing her, but she laughed about it too.
>>838 a little dispensing machine was enough for you? lol umm.....for the travellers who want to go around around in Tokyo, I'd recommend Suica. There are something like suica everywhere in Japan, so try to buy one of those at first and use train or subway. That's my recommendation. when I visited S Korea, moving around by subway was the best thing to see the ordinary citizens in the city, so I really recommend all the toursts to buy one of those and look around. It should be x10 interesting than touring by bus or whatever....
>>847 Where can you purchase a Suica card? I have been through the JREast english website and it really doesn't give me much. Can you purchase them at the station for a upfront fee then charge it or how would that work from Narita airport for example.
>>856 Hmmm In my opinion, for the short-term tourists, Suika is not necessary. You can buy a ticket each time, and it is not too much inconvenient, I guess.
>>856 You can get it any JR station, even at Narita I guess, though a card itself costs you \500. I think it starts from \2000(so \1500 for train fees) and you can charge it up to \20,000 or so. If you return your card when you're done with it, you'll get the deposit of \500 back, but you might want to save it for a memento. You can buy a soda from vending machines or eat in at Soba stands with the Suica logo on, too.
>>863 I dunno why either... whatever you do, you get a bad something? but most of the time you get nice some gift, don't you? even you take an action or take no action, you'd become a Barney anyway. maybe do nothing is the best...I dunno what to say...but take care!
>>859 Well, it sounds pretty serious there. Are you a girl? because wemen have more chance to have that kind of disease than men. If it's not so much progressed yet, there is something you can do about it. Try to find a good doctor and you'll be all right I hope.
Today is American Independance day! Tonight we are goint to have a BBQ, and see huge fireworks at the park!
The Tanabata is coming up in Japan right? I'm sure there will be a great festival for that as well! What are everybody's plans?
>>847 Oh! Hmmm, Perhaps suica might have been a good idea...but I didn't mind waiting in line for a ticket like the rest of the Japanese people. Makes me feel more native! (even though people were looking at me a lot. lol)
Okay, we're not really bitter about that anymore! Well... maybe just the dumping of the tea, but I hate tea anyway so it's okay. It's quite impressive how 4th July is recognised by a lot of the world (perhaps because of movies), yet even in England, most people don't really really know when our own national holiday is (April 23 - St. George's Day).
>>746 The top universities are generally the ones that perform the best overall, which happens to include Cambridge and Oxford.
The prestigious universities are the ones that usually depend on the family's social standing and influence in order to become accepted. I have a friend who got 4 A-Levels (basically a qualification which also goes towards university entry score) at over 90% each, and she was still rejected from Oxford.
>>872 Veeeerrrrryyyyyyyy COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLL. Hats shot close up look like high quality hats. I have no doubt that you look like a gentleman in those hats! Like a Sherlock Holmes!
Wait.. Gas mask made of leather? Or is it for a pilot? What about black one next to gas mask? If you wear it, it covers your head and face except eyes and nose?
Hi, I'm in France right now. this is for my job and learning French. but French is fuckin difficult for me. i guess its more and more complicated than Eng. here, everyday im speaking Eng, Jap, and French so my brain is almost broken!
btw, can somebady use three languages including eng and jap? if yes, did u feel difficulty when you first tried to learn third language?
>>875 Thanks! But... most of the hats came from charity shops, which means they were probably donated by relatives of dead people. However, this is a good way to get good items quite cheap. A Sherlock Holmes hat would be nice too!
As for the gas mask, it's made of rubber, and is from Russia sometime in the 1950s. However, it's not very effective. Once, I tried slicing onions while wearing it, but my eyes still stung and watered. The black thing next to it is for wearing while skiing and snowboarding, to keep the face warm while still wearing a hat and goggles over it.
>>877 In the UK, it is compulsory to take another European language at school, usually either French, German or Spanish. I took French. And yes, you're right, it does seem more difficult for me to learn Japanese, but maybe that's because I'm no longer learning a language as a child, when it is easier to pick up.
I have a friend who is learning French, too, as her third language. Her main complaint is that having gender-specific items is very confusing. However, I think that English is more complicated in other ways, and French is more logical... perhaps you're finding it difficult because you learned English first.
I have a very rudimentary English question: How young does one have to be to be called a 'little sister or little broher'? Because in Japanese we have specific words for older brother/sister (兄/姉) and younger brother/sister (弟/妹), but don't have the variations, like 'little' sister or 'younger' sister. Or is it so that no matter how old she gets, she is still 'little' relative to you, so you can call her a 'litte sister' even when she becomes 60 yrs old?
>>881 In the West, even if we're 80, if our sibling is 76, they're still our little brother or sister. If they're younger than you, they'll always be your 'little ...'.
>>881 A little sister (or younger sister) is a sister that is younger than myself. A big sister (or older sister) is one that is older than myself. Even if she were 60 and I was older, she'd still be my little sister, but I'd me more likely to call her my sister than I would be to attach little to the name. It's mostly used when the sibling is younger.
>>882 Cheers. I see, English language is weird, because when I hear the word 'little', at least I get the impression that the object is very small and maybe cuddly, or something, but my little brother is not! But I'll start using 'litte' instead 'younger'(which we learn to use at school) from today.
>>859 poor boy. hopefully you'll find a good doctor and cure your legs. About Barney thing, I dunno what you mean. You used to be popular among people and now everybody threw away? just don't worry about it. Be yourself. it's silly to go with the flow. they just pick up some unique character and say "kawaii!!" make some noise, and thow it away when they get tired of it. You just need to have an everlasting value.
"little" sounds like a small and fragile. but actually you are strong and tough enough. then little is no longer a "little" thing maybe it's better to call "ex-" or "previously" lol
>>895 Ah, the gas mask! It's fairly tight, but you have to force it over your head. It's very awkward if you have longer hair though, and it's squashed against your ears... and if you breathe too heavily, the eye glass fogs up.
There is a filter for the mouth, but because it was made in the 1950s in Russia, I don't really trust it and so keep it off. I must confess that I only bought it because it was about £8 from eBay... But it might be useful in case of a chemical attack!
>>896 yeah, that's I find, too. While the words Younger and Older only refer to the relative age difference, Little and Big seem to include one's feelings and affection towards their siblings.
>>899 LOL I see. If I were you, I would have bought it too! we have experienced gas attack hmmm....about a decade ago, the sarin gas attack in subway. ^^;
^~ thanks. I wouldnt call "the force" a violent action though. It is more of an aggregation of general power that can also be used for good. Things like controlling your little sister's mind and tricking her into a glory hole.
>>905 yeah, understand. we also call them ani, ane, imouto, otouto 兄、姉、妹、弟 in formal and with affection, we call them onii-chan, onee-chan, お兄ちゃん、お姉ちゃん。。hmm... there are no names to call little sis and bro. we just call them by their names lol ^^;
>>902 I remember hearing about that attack, very serious and tragic. Are Aum Shinrikyo still around after that, or were they caught and stopped?
>>905 Ah, of course! Think I misread it... and I blame a busy day, having had to write a 2500 word report and hand it in 10 minutes before the deadline. But that's my own fault :<
>>908 Yes. It is one of the most inhuman activities. I don't hear much about Aum, but I think they are still doing activities underground. they are a small group and claim their activities are only religious and spritual things, no more or no less, but we all doubt so. well personally I want to believe so, but If one of the Aum group would live next to your house, it is almost like they'd kill you one day. we have that kind of image, it's hard to brush away their bad image...they've changed their name. I forgot the new name of the group though...
>>912 LOL I mean not that his appearance is similar to her, but his activities. And how he uses the media, whatever he does, the whereever he goes, number of cameramen follow him. So it is an advantage for him to use his popularity into the politics. That's what I meant ^^; but I love angelina jolie. she's not only sexy but really a great person. ^^
>>901 What.. under what rock have you been living??? Don't tell me you don't know what "the force" in star wars is... I never even watched any star wars movie and all I know about the story is that Vader is Luke's father, but I have some idea of what the force is like... it's some sort of mystical power, i think is used to handle lightsabers and do some other super stuff. We are definitely not talking about violence or military power... Damn some people here are impossibly clueless
>>913 I am young so I don't know exactly, just heard the cruel activities from my mother. I just see Jouyu a nice person from TV. On the other day, I saw he was talking and what he said were quite reasonable. So I like Aum, or Aleph. haha
hello there. I just want to ask you if you had a similar experience with me.
I met one online friend from Australia few months ago. that time, I was devastated because my bf dumped me. so I said ok when we were talking about the meet up. but later my bf contacted me and I cancelled this appointment but it was too late that he bought a ticket.
Anyway, we had fun time together. His impression was just as same as I had an imange for a long time. funny, warm hearted, but emotional and change the feeling often in a good way and bad way too. lol
After the meet up, we talked again and he said he likes me a lot and even prposed me. I think that was a joke but I was both happy and disturbed. He is a really nice guy so I want to stay as friends.
He sent me some pictures that we have taken together on the other day so I said thanks. I have no intention to meet him again. Also I feel there is no needs to talk to him on msn or telephone anymore. The reason is not just he is trying to be intimate with me, but I just feel there is no needs anymore. I know he is having a happy life over there (far away from me). Staying online friend is better than being a real friend. How do you think? Have you ever experienced something like this before?
he is a gentleman enough so he woudln't force me or anything. so that is not a problem here. I just feel sad because I can't talk as same as before after I actually met him in person. Maybe I think too much? we used to have fun time talking on net before I don't know much about each other.
>>898 I think " The Force " in Star Wars is based on the Eastern idea of "Ki" which is a symbol that usually means an atmosphere. Also "Ki"is referred as a power you sense when you concentrate to have spiritual awereness. The power is often used as somewhat psychokinetik power in many of Japanese comic like "The Force" in Star Wars movies.
Thanks for the well wishes everyone! I've been having fun today. n_n
No, I wouldn't wear my Yukata, I think that would be too strange. People here aren't used to seeing a yukata. xD Plus, even though they are nice and thin, it was still super hot today, so I'd probably want to die of heat if I wore it.
Regarding sibling names: My Grandma is 4 years older than her brother, so when he was born, she called him "baby brother" instead of "little brother" And to this day, she still calls him her baby-brother, even though they are both in their 60's! xD I think that it's extra endearing to call a younger sibling your "baby" sibling, but it also might be embarassing for the younger sibling. lol
Igirisu-jin, that is a fantastic hat collection! Very snazzy! I was thinking about starting to wear hats more often, but they don't look that great on me. Do you think that the type of hat you can wear depends on your facial build?
At least, when looked at from the above, westerners head-shape is oval, whereas asians head-shape is round, therefore, the oval-shaped hats made to suit westerners heads don't fit our (asians) heads, and it's true, lol
>>928 Keira, is Yukata very hot? when it is very hot, I wear one T-shirt only.
that's cute that your grandma loves her bro all the time and treats him as a baby.
I see many ppl wear caps or hats to cover up their hair. but I think if you like the hat, you'd be looked good reagardless your size of head or facial build...^^;
>>941 Oh, yes, many times, and this spring as well. You don't need to go into the full-scale woods, suburban areas with some nature/trees will saffice.
>>941 What's really cute about them is that in the very beginning of spring of the year, they are not used to saying the whole phrase properly, so they stop half-way and the sound is rather weak because they are not confident, but as the time goes by, with their practicing, they eventually become able to say the entire phrase with confiednce! Kind of touching!
>>943 nice! usually they sing in the early monining it's nice to hear birds songs...yeah hopefully many birds start to sing a song around my place (T_T)
lol conchs ホラガイare interesting too! spiral shell... unlike other gastropods which crawl, couchs move by jumping and are carnivorous. I just read the article here ^^;
>>953 In Japan, conch-shells are associated with warrior/mountain priests from old time. They used to blow on a conch-shell horns to announce e.g. start of a war.
>>959 The sausage thing maybe another urban legend, but I've heard that a coulple of times, and everytime I hear it, I start to feel like eating one, lol
>>928 Thanks! As for your question though, I do agree with you; I think it all depends on finding the type of hat to go with the facial build, though hairstyle probably fits into it too. A lot of people also don't really take into account hat sizes, so if they buy a hat which is too big or too small, then it'll look strange anyway. It's just really a case of trial and error.
>>929 Hmm... I've seen quite a lot of Asian people who do suit hats though. As with everyone however, it depends on which type of hat they choose. I find that, say, Nakai Masahiro from SMAP (I don't particularly like SMAP, but do watch Utaban usually) suits all sorts of hats.
>>936 The elephant question is a really hard one... usually people make a strange trumpeting sound with their mouth, which can't really be translated into letters. Kind of this this (a random clip found on Youtube)! ttp://youtube.com/watch?v=van_7WgAPDM
Also, dogs here are said to either go "bowwow", as you said, or "woof".
>>937 As you say, birds go "chirp, chirp", apparently.