海外競馬掲示板のレスを翻訳するスレッド

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Why Cesario CAN'T win today!（Del Mar Forum）

シーザリオは消しこれだけの理由

1 名無しさん＠実況で競馬板アウト2005/07/03
シーザリオ(゜�凵K)イラネ
例えPersonal EnsignやRuffianの再来だとしても今日は無理
確かに今日のメンバーでは一番の実績だけど

1) 枠順悪すぎ
2) 頭数多いからどこかで不利を受ける
3) 今日は暑い、黒いから暑さに弱い

もし勝ったら妹のおっぱいうｐしてやるよ
漏れの本命はLuas Line

こんな感じで、海外掲示板の投稿を翻訳して貼っていってみるスレです

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妹のおっぱいを…

大元の掲示板みてきた。

アメリカ人もあんな感じで会話するのかと、ちと感動した。
シーザリオ愛されてるね。

で、訳はまだかね？

American Oaks - PP's (Daily Racing Form General Racing Discussion)

1 Nappy12 sage 2005/07/02(土) 07:27

１ メモレッテ 牝 ３ １２１ Ｗ．カリン Ｋ．デザーモ ３１．０
２ ハロウドドリーム 牝 ３ １２１ Ｂ．セシル Ｐ．ヴァレンズエラ ３１．０
３ ザッツホワットアイミーン 牝 ３ １２１ Ｗ．ステュート Ｄ．フローレス ３１．０
４ イスラコジーン 牝 ３ １２１ Ｍ．ポランコ Ｃ．ナカタニ ３１．０
５ メリョールアリンダ 牝 ３ １２１ Ｒ．フランケル Ｊ．ヴェラスケス ３．０
６ ルアスライン 牝 ３ １２１ Ｄ．ワックマン Ｒ．ダグラス １３．０
７ シルヴァーカップ 牝 ３ １２１ Ａ．ボッティ Ｇ．スティーヴンス ９．０
８ シルクアンドスカーレット 牝 ３ １２１ Ａ．オブライエン Ｖ．エスピノーザ ２１．０
９ スウィートファイアバード 牝 ３ １２１ Ｄ．ウェルド Ａ．ソリス ２１．０
取消 ルーヴァン 牝 ３ １２１ Ｒ．フランケル Ｔ．ベイズ ２１．０
１１ スリーディグリーズ 牝 ３ １２１ Ｐ．ギャラハー Ｊ．ベイリー ４．５
１２ シンハリーズ 牝 ３ １２１ Ｊ．キャシディ Ｇ．ゴメス ３１．０
１３ シーザリオ 牝 ３ １２１ 角居　勝彦 福永　祐一 ３．５

2 Nappy12 sage 2005/07/02(土) 07:27

Melhor Ainda
Luas Line
Sweet Firebird
Cesario
Box in ex, and tri - WP $ on Luas Line

3 depalma11 2005/07/02(土) 08:24

Silver Cup over Cesario and Three Degrees

3 YODA_ON_ACID 2005/07/02(土) 08:31

Louvaine, Mehor Ainda, Silver Cup, Three Degrees

Exact/Trifecta box all four
Win savers on Louvain and Silver Cup

>>5
シーザリオのスレに、翻訳したブログがあったけど。

5 silvercharmw 2005/07/02(土) 09:00

Three Degrees. . . needs pace up front but has homecourt advantage, good form.

6 KIRISCLOWN2 (KIRISCLOWN3) 2005/07/03(日) 12:42

Can't see Melhor Ainda losing this one.... She's been nothing short of brilliant in all her races.. tomorrow should be no exception....

7 RFriedman22 2005/07/03(日) 12:43

1. Memorette-If she moves up on grass at all she's very dangerous,
as her BSFs match up with Melhor Ainda, and her works on the grass
make it appear that she has handled the grass pretty well so far.

At 30-1 why not here.

2. Melhor Ainda-Obvious choice and an impressive looking filly,
but in a field of 13 talented fillies, you have to try and look for value in this spot,
and Melhor Ainda is good, but value is not good her.
Must use in all slots however.

3. Cesario-Japanese filly is obviously tough and good, and Desormeaux
said that she is better than Dance in the Mood who was second last year.
Contender in a wide open and contentious race.

8 JKBHAT 2005/07/03(日) 2:32

Tough race as we get runners from both coasts of the US and from England,
Ireland, Italy and Japan. How does the form from each respective circuit stack up?

Of the Euro's Luas Line looks much the best. Her third in the Iriash 1000 gns
was bias aided. The first 4 home that day were drawn 13, 16,17,18 of 18 runners.
She was drawn 18. That being said it was still a good performance as that race
was Luas Line's frst race in 9 months.

The 5th horse came back to win a G1 at Royal Ascot at York and the winner
Saoire was about to run a good race versus and good bunch of elder fillies
before being stopped in the race. Luas Line then faced the boys at
Royal Ascot and closed decently at 7f on a track that was pretty kind to
early speed. The 3rd in that race goes in a G1 in France tomorrow..

The Japanese horse Caesario has the from to win this but is a closer
and is drawn very badly considering the start of this race is on the turn.
If she can get a decent trip she figures to be close.

The best of the west is clearly Three Degrees who has handled
the rest of the West Coast horses in this field fairly easily.
She is also drawn badly though in 11.

Melhor Ainda hasnt really faced a decent field yet but
she has handled what she has faced with ease and its the visualsthat
are impressive rather than the company lines or speed figs.

she quite well could be much better than these but at 2/1 versus a big and
classy field I'll try and beat her..

Luas Line to win with exacta savers under Three Degrees and Melhor Ainda

9 JKBHAT 2005/07/03(日) 2:38

ttp://www.attheraces.com/search.asp?query=luas+line&type=H

heres a link for replays of Luas Line's races.

10 HESTHEMAN 2005/07/03(日) 3:08

I'm inclined to downgrade Three Degrees and the others coming out of the
Honeymoon because the favorite that day (Berbatim) broke slowly,
and as a confirmed front runner it changed the whole complexion of the race.

No question Three Degrees has some talent, and is obviously bred for the 1 1/4,
but as the local hope she's gonna be around 4-1, which to me is too low.
Luas Line could be ok, and we keep hearing she should like the firm ground.

If a Euro is going to win this thing, she's probably the one.
If she stays near her 12-1 ML she's worth including.
I have no clue about the Japanese filly or the competition she's faced,
but her Timeforms are decent enough.

But this all seems like a reach to beat Melhor Ainda.
I think 2-1 is more than fair, and with the money expected to come in on
Three Degrees I think M.A. stays at or near her ML.

I'll single her...

Who do you like in the Triple Bend? I'm still waiting for Mass Media to break out.
He's got the class to win this, has the best Beyer on the page at the distance,
and is coming out of the best races (Smokeume just came back to win).
From the West I like Forest Grove. Although Areyoutalkintome made it close last time,
Forest Grove had to wait for a 1/4 of a mile before he got to run.
The win was easier than looked, IMO. There's speed in the race,
but not the kind that produces a last-to-first winner.

The winner should come from mid-pack somewhere, so Forest Grove and
Mass Media should both sit perfect trips behind
the rail horse and three outside horses. I'll be using both in the multi-race exotics.

My main concern is the Roi Charmant getting clear early and running them off
their feet the way Disturbingthepeace did in this race a few years back.
In such a large field, I'll probably use that one, too, as he'll be a great price.

シーザリオのレースが見れて幸せだった、みたいな書き込みみて
こういうところがアメリカ人のいいところだよな〜とちと感動した。

11 HESTHEMAN 2005/07/03(日) 3:20

It's hard to tell what the F is going on most of the time,
but those races sure are fun to watch!

あっ１が訳してくれるわけじゃないのねｗ
なんだかな〜

12 davyork 2005/07/03(日) 5:04
Had a quick look before I go out this morning.Will look closer later on.

Japanese Turf form is world class.You have to make the Jap horse
fave here.She was second in the Jap 1000 Guineas(first leg of triple crown)
and won their version of the Oaks(second leg of crown).She's consistant,which I love.

Cesario

つーか、マジな話、難しい英語はほとんどないから、英文のまま読めるようになったほうが
いいと思われます。

13 nobeyerspls 2005/07/03(日) 7:21

Strange race. A horse trying the grass for the first time, a maiden with a second in a Grade I,
and several eligible for non-winners of two. It's hard to go past the favorite
but I'll take a shot with Singhalese. She made a move in her last and then hung,
probably needed that race. Three Degrees is a logical California-based possibility.

14 RFriedman22 nobeyerspls 2005/07/03(日) 8:17

I agree, and believe it or not, that horse trying the grass for the first time is
very scary IMO, because if she turfs, her dirt form puts her right there
as she was competing with the top 3YO dirt Fillies and she was right there each time.

And those grass works indicate that she can certainly handle the grass.

15 JKBHAT 2005/07/03(日) 12:26

Hallowed Dreams G1 second was in was very weak Italian race.
The winner of that race had been crushed in a G3 her previous start.

Italian G1 are usually at least one level below French, Irish and English G1's..

16 JKBHAT 2005/07/03(日) 12:28

Post 13 and very short home stretch compared to Japan are going to be
big negatives on this one but I agree that she comes here with probably
the best form on paper.

17 JKBHAT 2005/07/03(日) 12:34

I think beyers on grass are pretty useless. Pace, class and trips are far more
important in my opinion.

Memorette's only win vs winners came in a statebred race so as far as
class gloes she is completly out of her depth here.
As for Trip she is likely to be in trouble as she is a closer drawn 1 and
is going to have to some how weave her was through traffic in a big field.
As for pedigree he dam sire was a good grass horse but as far as
I know Memo is not a turf sure.

I really cant see that there is much evidence that she will move up
on grass to take on the many proven graded grass horses she faces here.

18 BUZZSAW15 2005/07/03(日) 13:10

Agree with you on Memorette.Been traning nicely on the turf.Melhor Alinda will be tough.
Also looking at Sweet Firebird,like that she gets Solis and although she only has
a maiden win to her credit,she get lasix and blinkers and has run the distance 3 times.
To say she has good turf breeding should be considered an understatement.Will play those 3 in ex"s and tri"s.Good Luck

19 DeNev1 2005/07/03(日) 13:32

Three Degrees wins this year's American Oaks.
The bet is her on top with all with Melhor Alinda for the tri.
MA is freaky but will face types that like to run in the lane like she does.
TD caps a big day and weekend for Bailey.

20 T.J.DONAHUE 2005/07/03(日) 13:49

1. Melhor Ainda

2. Hallowed Dream

3. Isla Cozzene

4. Silver Cup

(boxed ex:)

21 GLASSTIGER 2005/07/03(日) 14:35

(Louvain/IslaCozzene/MelhorAinda/Silk&Scarlet (boxed exacta)

22 JKBHAT 2005/07/03(日) 14:52

louvain is scratched

23 HARRYKINKADE 2005/07/03(日) 14:59

Trying Hallowed Dreams here, despite what I' ve read

削除依頼お願いします。

>>33
削除ガイドラインに照らした理由の提示をお願いします。

24 BETSYT 2005/07/03(日) 16:06

That's not MA's style - she'll get the jump on all the closers.
She's got a phenomenal turn of foot - I just hope that JV doesn't move too soon.

25 ELYSIANTRAVELLER 2005/07/03(日) 18:36
Here goes. Three Degrees, Melhor Ainda, with Thats what I mean to spice things up.

26 santanajimi 2005/07/03(日) 18:39
Key the 5 with 3 6 7 12

27 ELYSIANTRAVELLER 2005/07/03(日) 18:44
5/ 3,6,7, 12


WPS on Thatswhatimean

29 Nappy12 2005/07/03(日) 19:05
Davyork hits with Cesario!!

30 santanajimi 2005/07/03(日) 19:07
Wow, that was some kind of performance by the Japanese filly. She was much the best.

31 GMBBLUE 2005/07/03(日) 19:10

either melhor ainda is not as good as we thought or that filly is
just that good because she embarressed that field,
it was like a maiden special with that very good horse who crushes.

>>21
この程度の英文が読めないなら中学からやり直してこいって感じだよなｗ
少なくとも大学行ってる奴がこの程度の英文読めないのは恥ずかしい。

32 ELYSIANTRAVELLER 2005/07/03(日) 19:11

Can you give me the order of finish?

この程度の英語をこのスレに貼る意味あるの？
その掲示板行って見たらいいだけじゃね？
だいたい誰も翻訳してないし、する程度のものでもない。

>>44
同意ｗ

>>44
禿同ｗ

じゃ不要スレって事で放置しますか

33 silvercharmw 2005/07/03(日) 19:11

Melhor Ainda ran her race, but Cesario looked like
she could handle any 3yo filly in the world. That was just tremendous.

34 JKBHAT 2005/07/03(日) 19:12

Velazquez left he with much to much to do....

not that it mattered much but watch Luas Line on the replay.
She was almost last entering the backstretch and then took off inside
to be 3rd leaving the backstretch only to check of the tiring Thatswhatimean.

She ran on fairly well after that to be 5th.

>>1＝ID:j24HoBay

べたべた貼ってないで訳せ。

35 santanajimi 2005/07/03(日) 19:13

Melhor had a tough trip, she might not ever beat that horse,
but she is still very very good.

36 GMBBLUE 2005/07/03(日) 19:13
it was 13 5 12

37 Nappy12 2005/07/03(日) 19:14
Yah, she set a new stakes record...very nice.
Bien Bien still holds the track record 1:57 3/5. :-)

38 ELYSIANTRAVELLER 2005/07/03(日) 19:14

Domo

貼るにしても1レス内に原文数レス分を纏めるとか、もう少しやりようがあるだろうに。

39 JKBHAT 2005/07/03(日) 19:14
its only the 4th year so the stakes record doesnt mean much..

40 GMBBLUE 2005/07/03(日) 19:16

thats my feeling as well watching the replay,
she got hooked a bit wide on the turn and finished strong
but the winner had way to much acceleration for them.

このまま７０近くレス貼るんですかｗ

41 GMBBLUE 2005/07/03(日) 19:17

159 is a good time. I was there when bien bien set the track record, was awsome

42 KIRISCLOWN2 2005/07/03(日) 19:58

I think Melho Ainda got her last taste of Velazquez...
Wouldnt surprise me at all to see Bailey or Prado take over next out...

43 JKBHAT 2005/07/03(日) 20:01

Definately odd she was so far back early.
They were not going so fast as to leave her that far off.
She rallied nicely and beat the rest of the field easily..

I think she just happened to run into a monster today

44 santanajimi 2005/07/03(日) 20:02

Why would you think that? He rode an ok race....
Sometimes there is traffic in those big fields.

Nothing i this game is written in stone,
but i see no reason why he should be off.

How was belmont today......?

The morning line on you attending BC ......you set it.

45 KIRISCLOWN2 2005/07/03(日) 20:06

Yeah, she really shouldnt have been that far back... Velazquez left her with way
too much to do, she finished full of run... probably wouldnt have made much
difference in the end, but Frankel can't be happy at all with the ride.

Considering how she ran off uncontrolably prior to the race,
im shocked the Japanese filly ran so huge...

46 KIRISCLOWN2 2005/07/03(日) 20:10

Frankel isnt too forgiving.. he had alot of confidence in Melhor Ainda today,
I imagine he's very upset at the horse being left with too much to do late...
Im expecting Bailey or Prado to take over...

Hmmm.... my odds of attending the BC? conservatively.. 250-1...

47 santanajimi 2005/07/03(日) 20:13

I was thinking more along the lines of 6-1....wow..you just made yourself a
million to one with that statement...i know the ride is just to far...
what is it like 20 minutes?

48 KIRISCLOWN2 2005/07/03(日) 20:14

Apparently she was slow out of the gate and grabbed a quarter,
thats why she was so far back....

49 KIRISCLOWN2 2005/07/03(日) 20:17

It's about a half hour to Belmont with normal traffic...
Hey my dad just went last week with his friends, practically begged me to go,
I said no... He's going again next week.... 1000000000-1 ill be there...

As ive said in the past, going to the track isnt as fun at it use to be...

50 Twohitdead 2005/07/03(日) 21:29

Cesario ran a huge race today, if Melhor got the perfect ride -
she still would have been running for 2nd place.

This horse says a lot for Jap turf races...

51 BETSYT 2005/07/03(日) 21:58

Kiri, did Melhor run well, despite her bad break? I'm so disappointed,
but not in her, since it sounds like she put in a heck of a run.
It's frustrating when a horse gets beat by a bad trip- I can deal with it if he's not good enough,

but man.......I don't think I can watch the replay of this race.

I hope Melhor comes out of the race ok; it doesn't sound good that
she grabbed a quarter. She'll beat every American grass fily easily,
and I hope for a rematch with Cesario down the line.

52 KIRISCLOWN2 2005/07/03(日) 22:05

She ran very well, she sat second to last early, had a fairly wide trip after that...
But came on nicely at the end... She'll be back in the winners circle next out no doubt...

I havent lost any respect for her at all,
I think she's every bit the filly we all thought she was prior to the race...

Considering the trouble she had early, it was a very impressive performance...

53 BETSYT 2005/07/03(日) 22:13

Thanks, Kiri. I may be disappointed in the result, but not in MA's performance.
She'll get her chance at another grade 1 (hope she's ok, though!),
and the nice thing is, there's always another race.
At least she proved that she can go 1 1/4 and run well when things don't go her way.

Thanks again!

54 RFriedman22 2005/07/03(日) 23:08

Good racing...Day of tough beats for me at Hollywood.
Had West's horse that got nosed out at the line and had Island Fashion at that price,
that got nosed out.

Did ya catch the hit though in the first at Belmont with Calypso Band? Great price there.

55 mellowfello3 2005/07/04(日) 1:45

Velasquez was asleep on the job not only on Ainda but on Qsar too.
Both of those losses were just amplified by j.r. not getting the horses
involved in the race fast enough.

The oaks could have been quite a finish otherwise.

56 LARHAGE1 2005/07/04(日) 3:33

This race was over in the paddock, when that Japanese filly entered the walking ring, that was it...game over. I was blown away by this fillies presence and charisma,

she was looking at all the other horses while on her toes ready to rumble,
the others were clearly running for the place spots,
Melhor Ainda is the best US filly, but Cesario would beat her everyday of the week,
at any distance in my opinion, she completely outclassed them.

It was very nice seeing everyone standing on their feet and giving her a standing ovation! Superstar filly.

57 Twohitdead 2005/07/04(日) 5:36

I agree, the race to me looked like a mis-match with cesario a class above.
I think if they raced the race over again, She would win it handily again

あともう少しかな？

58 silvercharmw 2005/07/04(月) 9:30

Cesario really did have a presence about her and looked like her grandsire,
Sunday Silence, in both color and appearance.
Her royal bloodlines run through the family,
as her broodmare sire is the prolific Sadlers Wells.
Let's just hope we get to see this grand-looking filly on United States soil again.

キーンランドスワンの出たレースの掲示板も見つけてきて貼ってくれるんだろうな。

59 maxfli31 2005/07/04(月) 10:44

Cesario simply was much the best yesterday folks.
All the rest were basically running for the spoils.
No one was going to beat her yesterday.
Her final 1/4 was 23 and change...The Frankel filly may be good.

But she would have to be something special to beat her yesterday.
Despite the debated bad ride by JR. Frankly it didn't matter if
she had a perfect trip. She wouldn't have beaten Cesario.

I echo many of the sentiments of her just standing out in the walking ring.
It was like she had just stepped out of the Amazon and into the park against
mortal females. She just looked the part of class and beauty.

We in NA often think that racing is better here...Quality and talent wise.
I for one always thought the rest of the world has caught up and
in some cases are better at doing things then the NA's.

Is it really a surprise a nation like Japan can take something and make it better?
The Car industry just for starters is a prime example.
Japanese imports are rubbing it in the NA's faces right now.
Look at the decline of GM plants around America and Canada.

In today's racing a good healthy respect for other racing venues
should not be overlooked by simple idiotic patriotic pride.
Racing is a global sport. I appreciate all racing around the world.

The Orient(Hong Kong and Japan in particular) has made big strides in racing.
I can understand why we NA's can appreciate Cigar's win streak more than
Hong Kong's Silent Witness and sure Cigar was probably the better horse.

But nor should Silent Witness' streak be scoffed at either.
Just because it's half a world away. Horseracing is a true global sport. We can appreciate the best that both cultures have to offer.

60 LARHAGE1 2005/07/04(月) 10:44

Charm, you would have flipped over this filly,
she brought back memories of the great Ruffian,
you know that wild-eyed look Ruffian would exhibit when galloping,
when Cesario broke off and starting sprinting in the post parade
the Japanese group started cheering, obviously this behavior was usual for her!

Cesario was a sight I will not soon forget. I had a fantastic time at Hollywood Park,
great racing! I also got to chat with Jerry Bailey and had him sign my book,
he was still excited about Wend's performance the day before.

頼む！

ちゃんと訳してくれ！

無意味な大量投稿荒らしで申請出来ると思うよ

申請しても意味なし。
それなら削除依頼出したほうがいい。

でもここまでくるとわけわからんｗｗｗ

夏休みの中高生
これ訳して貼りなさいage

>>69の訳
ツルマルヨカニセは最高だよ〜！！！もう見てるだけで鳥肌立ってくるし
りっぱなイチモツでグッドランってか？笑わせてくれるぜ。
ジャパンに来てもっとも驚いたのがなんといってもそのツルマルヨカニセの
2004・ザ・ｄａｚａｉｆｕ　ｓｐｅｃｉａｌ　だね。いや〜その日の
ｋｏｋｕｒａ　ｒａｃｅ　ｃｏｕｒｓｅ　は暑かったよ〜〜〜
マヤノシャドー、スパルタクスを抑えちゃうんだもの。
見ながら食べてたポップコーンを思わずこぼしちゃったよ。
で、夜マミーに叱られたっていうおちさ（笑）