Dear Americans and Europeans

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Dear Americans and Europeans,

Stop indifferently referring and comparing referring this terrorism to
"Pearl Harbor" and "Kamikaze".

It will be like this if it is referred to,

"Mass murder to the non-battling citizen since Hiroshima and Nagasaki!"

First of all,

Pearl Harbor attack of a Japanese army Attack to = military facilities
This terrorism guy = indiscriminate attack to a non-battling citizen
Tokyo massive air raid = same-as-the-above
atomic bomb = same as the above

It is useless if it discusses in the same rank.

From Japanese.
2名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/22 21:05 ID:d3gXL2.w
やべえよ、これ(藁
これ米国のBBSに書き込んだら国際問題になるんじゃないか?
3名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/22 21:12 ID:2NKpXiLs
早速コピペしてくるよ。
つーか米国BBSからのコピペじゃないの?
4nanasi:01/09/22 21:18 ID:Xqgcu/YA
翻訳希望
5 :01/09/22 21:20 ID:PMWwcabg
ていうかこれ英語?
6面倒だからエキサイト翻訳:01/09/22 21:23 ID:EQNzpHhE
親愛なるアメリカ人とヨーロッパ人、

「真珠湾」と「カミカゼ」にこのテロリズムを知らせて無関心に指名して、
そして比較するのをやめなさい。

もしそれが言及されるなら、それはこのようであるであろう

「戦わない市民に広島と長崎から大量殺人!」

まず第一に、

日本の陸軍の真珠湾攻撃が上記の(人たち・もの)と同じで
戦わない国民東京大規模な爆撃 = に原子爆弾 = の上の
− と同じで = の軍のファシリティにこのテロリズム男 = 無差別
の攻撃を攻撃する

もしそれが同じランクで論じるなら、無用である。

日本語から。
7nanasi:01/09/22 21:28 ID:Xqgcu/YA
要するに今回のテロのことを
「パールハーバーのようだ」と表現するのはやめろ。
むしろ原爆と表現すべきだ、
ってことですか?
これって石原都知事が言ってたことですね。
8それを言うなら:01/09/22 21:29 ID:AnICXP4U
意訳だが、


親愛なるアメリカ人とヨーロッパ人へ。

今回のテロリズムについて、「真珠湾」や「カミカゼ」を引き合いに
出すのを、いいかげんやめなさい。

引き合いに出すなら、こうだろう。
「ヒロシマ、ナガサキ以来の一般市民への大量殺人!」

そもそも、

日本軍の真珠湾攻撃=軍事施設への攻撃
今回のテロ野郎=非戦闘市民への無差別攻撃
東京大空襲=同上
原子爆弾=同上

同列で論じたらいけません。

日本人より。
9名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/22 21:35 ID:AnICXP4U
age
10nanasi:01/09/22 21:45 ID:Xqgcu/YA
>8
分かりやすい翻訳どうもです。
この意見には大体同意なのですが、
過去、アメリカが受けた攻撃というのは、
たとえ「作られた被害」と言えども、
真珠湾くらいしか無いので、
引き合いにだされても、仕方ないのかもしれませんね。
11ななし:01/09/22 21:46 ID:rClxeohk
non-battling citizenって絶対おかいいとおもうなぁ・・・

civilianでいいんじゃないの?
12 :01/09/22 21:49 ID:6twkQajo
やっぱり元の英文が変じゃないかな。
たとえば
it discusses in the same rank
それ「が」同じランクで議論する
13名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/22 21:52 ID:2NKpXiLs
厨房が頑張った英文ですか?
14名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/22 21:58 ID:0Ygzc9KA
命をかけて突っ込むと言う行為では同じ。
15名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/22 23:28 ID:CNqvaqq6
Dear Americans,

Ever since your president Bush and secretary of state Powell
proclaimed to wage the all-out war against Afghanistan and other Islamic
countries that he claims to be in supportive of 'terrorists',
more and more Japanese people have come to remember what happened
in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 1945 anew and to associate it with
what your president and secretary of state are trying to do.

On 6 August 1945, your armed forces dropped the first atomic bomb
to Hiroshima at 8.15am. It was the time for many Hiroshima civilians
to commute from their home to offices or schools, therefore there were
many innocent people exposed to the first A-bomb attack ever waged in
human history. The consequence was devastating. Many innocent civilians
were brutally killed due to your A-bomb attack, and those survived had
to suffer from severe desease, as leulaemia, for many years and eventually
passed away.

Frankly speaking, your president and the secretary of state are now
attemting to treat the people, who have been most poverty-stricken and suffered
from invasion from outside and civil war for more than two decades, in
the same way as you did the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki half a century ago.
It will be inevitable that those poor people in Afghanistan, especially
women and children, will suffer from the same fate that the citizens
of Hiroshima and Nagasaki did in 1945.

In short, the war that of your president and secretary of state will be as
much mass murder to Afghan people as has been to the people of Hiroshima and
Nagasaki. If you really start the war against Afghanistan and other Islamic
countries, increasingly larger number of Japanese people will dub it with the
brutal picture of Hiroshima and Nagasaki more 56 years ago, by recalling that
you dropped A-bomb to Hiroshima and Nagasaki KNOWING that it will murder many
innocent civilians.

Japanese has been respecting your country as a home of democracy, freedom
and diversity, but this imagery will become something of the past. Japanese
will change their mind into believing that your counry is in reality the source
of brutality, opression and personal enmity.

As a Japanese I feel sorry for this situation to happen in Japan,
but I must tell you that your country must assume its sole responsiblity.

Sincerely yours,

From a Japanese who want real friendship with the Americans.
16名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/22 23:32 ID:tkmnXawU
>1 ドレスデン絨毯爆撃も追加しよう
17名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/22 23:40 ID:f/vE95vw

ただいまよりここを

「英語で海外BBSにコピペ出来るネタを作るスレ」

に変更します。白人国もイスラム国も報道偏りすぎてる。
宗教、ユダヤマネー、人種偏見、貧困。色々バイアスが
かかりすぎ。たぶん同盟国の中では一番日本が冷静だろう。
18Remember Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Dresden!!:01/09/23 10:55 ID:Czh75ae2
>>16
賛成。
ドイツ(旧東独)のドレスデンに対して、米英がやった絨毯爆撃は、もはやナチ
ドイツの敗北が決定的になってから行われた。これにより、何万と言う無辜のド
イツ人が死に、エルベのフィレンツェといわれた、美しい都市の町並みや、ザク
セン王国の首都だった時に出来た多数の歴史的建造物が瓦礫に帰した。
半世紀以上たったいまでも、ドレスデンの旧市街地は、がら〜んとしていて、
この爆撃の悲惨さを物語っている。
このドレスデン攻撃は、ただただ、理性を失った米英の「報復」以外の何者でも
ない。
米英は、こういう恐ろしいことを平気で行う、野獣の国である。
広島、長崎とともに、今回のアフガニスタン攻撃と関わって、このことをもう一度
しっかりわれわれの頭に刻み込もう。
19名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/23 11:00 ID:DNRjQIOE
っていうか、これ米の掲示板にハテコーイ
20xxx:01/09/23 11:02 ID:nwHUJ.xg
army = 陸軍
21名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/23 13:05 ID:MSm6wm1w
>>17
禿同!
ということであげ
2221:01/09/23 13:09 ID:MSm6wm1w
けっこう意見出たから、
>>1 の原文を校正して、もっとイイ文に直してから米国BBSに貼り付けようぜ。
英文に強い人よろしゅう。
23名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/23 14:07 ID:JzKaN2LA
あげじゃあ
24名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/23 21:20 ID:.6ZqrW1.
>>22
>>15 の英文のほうが出来がいいぞ。
これ、誰か校正して、米国のBBSに貼りまくれ。
25名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/24 07:20 ID:mzPZgJek
あげあげ
26 :01/09/24 07:36 ID:pN.RHz2M
>>1
???英語???
27名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/24 07:43 ID:IRshy2EU
15の英文にパールハーバーの事、ちょっと追加した方がよくない?
28( ̄ー+ ̄):01/09/24 07:45 ID:rNYWmxdA
こうスレの予感だが、弱腰の僕としては、sage。
でも、期待age。
29名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/24 08:04 ID:IRshy2EU
>Stop indifferently referring and comparing referring this terrorism to
>"Pearl Harbor" and "Kamikaze".
>
>It will be like this if it is referred to,
>
>"Mass murder to the non-battling citizen since Hiroshima and Nagasaki!"
>

もとい、

It is unfortunate that American Government and media often reffered to
"Pearl Harbor" and "Kamikaze" in comparison of this horrible terrorism act.
We are afraid that as a consequence, this war against terrorists will be mentioned
and sensatinalized as the second "Hiroshima and Nagasaki" since it is not hopeful that
innocent people's lives in Afgahnistan will be safe,just like innocent people's lives
were wasted in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

なんてどう? どうにかして15のやつにいれてみるとか。 テキトーな意訳でスマソ。
30名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/24 13:24 ID:epbHyjQ.
>>29
>>1 の原文よりも、米国人と衝突せずにすみそうな感触だな。
31FOR YOUR INFORMATION:01/09/24 13:57 ID:w/BsXGd6
アメリカ人よ、謙虚になりなさい
American people, please be humble
The buildings which were the symbol of American Economic Prosperity standing
high over Manhattan easily collapsed. This was performed by the patriots with brave
KAMIKAZE spirit.
The self-sacrifice spirit of Japanese SAMURAI was inherited to the Islam with a great
long history.
Possibly you will be able to understand a part of aches of many peoples in the world
who were killed in the bombing by the atrocious air forces and armies of the United States.
The American people should recollect the serious crimes against the human lives done in
Asia, the Middle East, and South America, examine themselves calmly, and repent the past wrongdoings.
Although the World Trade Center collapsed, in Manhattan, many skyscrapers are still standing.
Please imagine the sight of HIROSHIMA and NAGASAKI, where all the buildings were lost and
you could see horizon everywhere in the cities.
The history revenged itself on the United States.
You American people, please be humble. Please understand that you are not in a position
where you can retaliate upon Islam.
32名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/24 17:37 ID:exFTr2j.
なかなかいいね。

http://kaba.2ch.net/test/read.cgi?bbs=news2&key=1001159579
↑このスレ自体を米国BBSに貼り付けよう!
33名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/24 18:56 ID:exFTr2j.
age
34名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/24 18:57 ID:XeUuC/p6

My City Of Ruins

There's a blood red circle on the cold dark ground and the rain is falling down.
The church doors blown open.
I can hear the organ's song.
But the congregation's gone.
My city of ruins.
My city of ruins.
Now the sweet veils of mercy drift through the evening trees.
Young men on the corner like scattered leaves.
The bordered up windows.
The hustlers and thieves.
While my brother's down on his knees.
My city of ruins.
My city of ruins.
Come on rise up!
Come on rise up!
Now there's tears on the pillow darling where we slept and you took my heart when you left without your sweet kiss my soul is lost, my friend.
Now tell me how do I begin again.
My city's in ruins.
My city's in ruins.
Now with these hands.
I pray Lord with these hands for the strength Lord with these hands.
for the faith Lord with these hands.
I pray Lord with these hands for the strength Lord with these hands.
for the faith Lord with these hands.
Come on rise up!
Come on rise up!
Rise up.
35 :01/09/24 22:27 ID:AO8x7WMc
age
36植民地主義を反省しない英国用メッセージ:01/09/24 23:18 ID:CJnOEU9A
Dear People of the United Kingdom,

It was reported in Japanese mass media that your special secret
force has already penetrated into Afghanistan and started to fight
against Taliban.

It conjures up an image as if we have now come with a time machine by a
century back, when your ancestor waged the 'Great Game', fighting for
interest in Central Asia, pitting yourselves against Russia and China.

Japanese people still remember whwn your crown prince delivered
speech on the occasion of the handover of Hong Kong to China in 1997.
At that time, your crown prince never mentioned the opum war, with which
your country had managed to colonise Hong Kong. Your crown prince never
said 'sorry' to the colonisation of Hong Kong for one and a
half century long to the Chinese delegetes in the handover ceremony.
Instead, he praised the contribution of Britain towards economic
development of Hong Kong.
In contrast, many Japanese people feel that we feel much guity for
our past invasion into China.

Your secret force entering in Afghanistan ahead of the US is
now seen among Japanese people that your country again began
showing some sort of neo-colonial interest in Afghanistan and central
Asia. When your armed forces, in cooperation of those of the US,
managed to beat Taliban, your country will surely get some 'lion's share'
in that country -- extracting natural resources, to secure right of way
for building your pipeline througb Afghanistan and perhaps many more.

In short, Japanese people are now increasingly see the action of your
country as a replay of your colonial past -- and have come to wonder
how serious people of your country reflect upon your former notorious
colonial legacy.

The age of colonialism is now over. Real friendship among many
countries can only be built only on the ground of the serious and
thorough reflecton of the past colonial legacy.
For this reason, Japanese people must strongly urge your country
that British armed forces should immediately withdraw themselves from
Afghanistan and not to penetrate into her neighbouring countries.

Whether your country will meet this urge would amount to test how your
country has seriously atoned for your past sin of having dominated over
many peoples of the world in the pretext of bringing 'enlightment'
into those colonised territories.

Sincerely yours,

A Japanese people who wishes to have real friendship with the British.
37名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/24 23:32 ID:xHmlJg7A
Johnny works in factory and Billy works downtown.
Terry works in a rock and roll band.
Lookin' for that million-dollar sound.
I got a little job down in Darlington.
But some nights I don't go.
Some nights I go to the drive-in, or some nights I stay home.
I followed that dream just like those guys do up on the screen.
And I drive a Challenger down route 9 through the dead ends and all the bad scenes.
When the promise was broken, I cashed in a few of my dreams.

Well now I built that Challenger by myself.
But I needed money and so I sold it.
I live a secret I should' a kept to myself.
But I got drunk one night and I told it.
All my life I fought this fight.
The fight that no man can ever win.
Every day it just gets harder to live.
This dream I'm believing in.
Thunder Road, oh baby you were so right.
Thunder Road, there's somethin' dyin' on the highway tonight.

I won big once and I hit the coast.
But somehow I paid the big cost.
Inside I felt like I was carryin' the broken spirits.
Of all the other ones who lost.
When the promise is broken you go on living.
But it steals something from down in your soul.
Like when the truth is spoken and it don't make no difference.
Somethin' in your heart goes cold.
I followed that dream through the southwestern flats.
That dead ends in two-bit bars.
And when the promise was broken I was far away from home.
Sleepin' in the backseat of a borrowed car.
Thunder Road, for the lost lovers and all the fixed games.
Thunder Road, for the tires rushing by in the rain.
Thunder Road, Billy and me we'd always say.
Thunder Road, we were gonna take it all and throw it all away.
38名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/24 23:59 ID:PEJFrKYo
すばらしい!
名スレの予感。
39名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/25 00:10 ID:H2cxXrSE
>>38
うん、素晴らしい!ただ英語は読むの時間掛かるんで
簡単な意訳を付けていただけると。。。。
40名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/25 00:15 ID:lQEDMSQQ
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
War is something that I despise
For it means destruction of innocent lives
For it means tears in thousands of mothers' eyes
When their sons go out to fight to give their lives

War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing

War
It's nothing but a heartbreaker
War
Friend only to the undertaker
War is the enemy of all mankind
The thought of war blows my mind
Handed down from generation to generation
Induction destruction
Who wants to die

War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing

War has shattered many young men's dreams
Made them disabled bitter and meanLife is too precious to be fighting wars
each day
War can't give life it can only take it away

War
It's nothing but a heartbreaker
War
Friend only to the undertaker
Peace love and understanding
There must be some place for these things today
They say we must fight to keep our freedom
But Lord there's gotta be a better way
That's better than
War

War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
41名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/25 00:16 ID:tZthcQfU
36がよい。
42名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/25 03:02 ID:EO5iWBcY
age
43名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/25 15:28 ID:6kuLmmXg
up
44東京kitty:01/09/26 16:34 ID:TILuTGfk
Maen yahan likhta hun.
45東京kitty:01/09/26 16:35 ID:TILuTGfk
Par ismen angrezii hae.
Kyon?
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52名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/26 18:17 ID:TTo84sRs
Kiss my ass hole mother fucker, dear Americans
5331:01/09/26 21:30 ID:va/5TNLU
>>31 アメリカ人よ、謙虚になりなさい

米Yahoo BBSに貼ってみたらたくさんレスがつきました。
http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=&action=m&board=37138445&tid=nmcrashtradecenterdc&sid=37138445&mid=107825&thr=107825&cur=107825&dir=d
返事してやるひまがないんでそのままになってるんだけど。
なかなか皆さん頑固なんでねえ。
54日本がアメリカにまた爆撃される!:01/09/26 22:30 ID:nhzNKDcg
>>53
日本人は、こんな基地外アメリカ人を、おいら達の血税で支持しようとしてるわけね (鬱
小泉のアフォ、逝って由!

Re: American people, please be humble
by: my_dick_is_a_huge_dick 09/24/01 10:21 am
Msg: 107834 of 114785

As i said 2 days ago....we should BOMB JAPAN AGAIN AS WELL !
(訳: 2日前に言うたけど・・わてら日本かておんなじようにもう1ぺん爆撃せなあかん思とんのや!)

Posted as a reply to: Msg 107825 by hirohitojpn
55東京kitty:01/09/26 23:03 ID:TILuTGfk
Affaynatu hardin yaqaribu, wa akkhabaru hardiyu jiddan kathiru.
56名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/27 19:48 ID:zqWi7eCQ
Early in the morning factory whistle blows,
Man rises from bed and puts on his clothes,
Man takes his lunch, walks out in the morning light,
It's the working, the working, just the working life.

Through the mansions of fear, through the mansions of pain,
I see my daddy walking through them factory gates in the rain,
Factory takes his hearing, factory gives him life,
The working, the working, just the working life.

End of the day, factory whistle cries,
Men walk through these gates with death in their eyes.
And you just better believe, boy,
somebody's gonna get hurt tonight,
It's the working, the working, just the working life.
57名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/28 01:41 ID:UOKeli3M
age
58名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/28 10:36 ID:VEFDvtlY
イスラエルとアメリカの関係を改めるように、いってやってくださいや。
59名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/28 15:56 ID:U1NZwGEk
日本語の煽りだと良く見る手法だけど、
アメリカの正当性を称える文章のアタマを立て読みすると








になるような文章とか作れないものだろうか?
60アメリカ人を謙虚にしたい:01/09/28 20:12 ID:WZ0WVHBo
もういっぺん原爆落としたろか、みたいなのは論外だが、比較的マトモな人でも;

1)日本が真珠湾を卑怯にも奇襲したから、アメリカは戦争をせざるを得なかった。
2)原爆を落としたことによって日本軍に殺されたはずの多くの命が助かった。
3)広島、長崎は軍事都市で兵器を作ってたのだから、原爆投下のターゲットにした
  のは道徳的に問題なし。

の3点がアメリカの正しさを確信する絶対的な論拠となっております。
誰か日本語でいいので、これを論破してください。
英語に訳してUS Yahooに貼ってきますので。
61名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/28 20:21 ID:AQOl6p..
歴史は専門じゃねえんで添削してもらわにゃならんが

1)戦争せざるをえないように追い込んだのは何処の国じゃゴノレァ!
2)あの時点で日本に反攻する力なんか無かったわいボケ!
3)アメリカは軍事国家で兵器を作ってたのだから、
 全域攻撃対象で道徳的に問題ナシじゃSUCKER!

てな線で逝けるんじゃなかろうか
62 :01/09/28 22:26 ID:lbLY2yuw
age
63死者の宮殿:01/09/28 22:56 ID:fm5nAA3U
>>60
それぼく明日しっかり反論するね
今日はねる
64名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/28 23:05 ID:fhzE4jKg
Your scrapbook's filled with pictures of all your leading men
Well baby don't put my picture in there with them
Don't make us some little girl's dream that can't ever come true
That only serves to hurt and make you cry like you do
Well baby don't do it to me and I won't do it to you

You see all the romantic movies, you dream and take the boys home
But when the action fades you're left all alone
You deserve better than this, little girl, can't you see that you do
Do you need somebody to prove it to you?
Well you prove it to me and I'll prove it to you

Now every night you go out looking for true love's satisfaction
But in the morning you end up settling for just lights, camera, action

And another cameo role with some bit player you're befriending
You're gonna go broken-hearted looking for that happy ending
Well girl you're gonna end up just another lonely ticket sold
Cryin' alone in the theater as the credits roll
You say I'll be like those other guys
Who filled your head with pretty lies
And dreams that can never come true
Well baby you be true to me
And I'll be true to you
6560   :01/09/28 23:28 ID:zlj6NS2s
>61 ありがとう。
>63 よろしくね。

アメリカ人に謙虚になってもらおう。
66名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/09/28 23:50 ID:T0gf647A
All Japanese are just yellow monkeys.
You don't have to hear them.
67誰か貼っといてくれますか?:01/09/30 00:48 ID:L/dYl5FY
Many Americans don't know the truth of the atomic bomb.
Hiroshima's and Nagasaki's tragedy isn't known.
Then, it is satisfied with as much information that it doesn't try to know truth personally and as it is only given to it.
It is the age when it can obtain every information now.
The human being of the further country is known, and history is known, and it wants it to stare at the truth.

From your friend.


おかしい箇所は適宜訂正するなりしてくださって結構です。
68アホ!:01/09/30 01:04 ID:pC4YUkMY
自分で貼ってこい。
6967:01/09/30 01:09 ID:L/dYl5FY
>>68
あ、やっぱり?すんません、他力本願で…。
USyahooの掲示板でいいのかな。
他に効果的な掲示板があったら教えてください。
いろいろ考えてバンバン貼りたいと思います。
70名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:01/10/01 01:41 ID:WR1lfk9w
up
71死者の宮殿
寝る前のことだったからすっかり忘れていた〜