★空巣王　テイエムオペラオー　part109★

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307 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/19 22:10 ID:2b4Mlsok
>>305
そんな頭の悪い乗り方しねえだろ。武だってグランドスラム狙ってんだから。
むしろあの異常なマークも受けずスムーズな競馬が出来るだろ。
多分常に1馬身半から2馬身半の間で勝ち続けんじゃない。宝塚とか有馬は離しにかかるかもしれんが。
308 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/19 22:33 ID:FOz6/VNA
今更ながらスレタイﾜﾛﾀ
309 ：シ：04/03/19 22:35 ID:Vhwj0vFl
5時間カメレスだがタキオンが凱旋門？
ダメダメだね。弥生賞で１０馬身以上離してたら可能性あったかもな。
エルコンドルパサーならあのレース　ボーンを１０馬身は離してたよ。
310 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/19 22:38 ID:FOz6/VNA
ジャンポケとマンカフェとデジとドトウが居なければ旧6歳時グランドスラム達成できたのにな
311 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/19 22:46 ID:ODazyPc6
武でも岡部でもマークされるがな。

武はダービーを意識した騎乗したなんて事言うがな。
312 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/19 22:47 ID:WpiQ7+LS
>>309
ボーンって道悪強いよ。
313 ：シ：04/03/19 23:21 ID:YjMus2KG
その割には、３着馬との着差無かったな。

つーか、タキオン坂上で手応え無くなってるんだよ。
ラスト１ハロン何秒かかってるかしってんの？
314 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/19 23:25 ID:w3CCyvGz
>>313
ラストの脚は相対的に評価せんといかんよ。
ラスト歩いて追い詰められた訳でもないし。
315 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/19 23:42 ID:zLmuTn4D
両国特別(９００万下)　1800ｍ
1着　タフグレイス　1.53.8

(タフグレイスは次走1600万下も勝利)

弥生賞
アグネスタキオンの1800ｍ通過タイム、1.51.7！


すっげぇ〜！！！！　ヽ( ・∀・)ﾉ
316 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/19 23:52 ID:2b4Mlsok
>>311
出し抜くようなマークはする（関東騎手は岡部にはそれすらもやらないだろうけど）。
つまり自分が勝つためのマークはするが、オペ和田に対してのように「兎に角オペラオーを潰す為」のマークは絶対にしない。
317 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/20 00:02 ID:QZzERhvs
>>316
アドマイヤボスはオペに先着したがな。
宝塚は実はドトウの斜行のせいだがな。
しかも、それでしっかりと勝ったがな。
他に有力馬がいないならきついマークされるがな。
オペだからとか和田だからとかではないがな。
勝ち続けたからマークされたのだがな。
318 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/20 00:06 ID:QZzERhvs
スプリンターズＳで吉田は老害のシャトルに執拗に競りかけたがな。
ダービーで勝浦は老害のクリスエスをかぶせようとしたがな。
319 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/20 00:07 ID:8wkq4ZPO
>>317
それは解る。だが有馬のように外に出さない前も空けないなんて事を岡部に出来る騎手なんていると思う？
勝ったとはいえ後藤が1番人気の馬に乗ってる武に道中も常に競りかけて馬体をぶつけるようなマークをすると思う？
有力馬には誰でもマークはする。だがあそこまで異常なマークは関西の若手が乗ってるから出来たこと。
ベテランが乗ってりゃまずあんなマークはされない。下手すりゃ自分から道を空ける騎手だっている。
まあベテランが乗ってりゃそれ相応のマークに対してもそうゆうノウハウは持ってるだろうがね。
つまり技術云々以前に和田にはG1で圧倒的1番人気馬に乗るのは荷が重かったってわけだ。
誰でも解ることだが。
320 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/20 00:11 ID:8wkq4ZPO
>>318
あんなのオペのマークに比べりゃマークとさえ言われないだろ。
それとも何かな、吉田や勝浦は斜行してでも岡部から離れなきゃいけないのか？
あのマークとオペのマークが一緒に見えるなら競馬はやらないほうがいい。
損するだけだ。
321 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/20 00:14 ID:QZzERhvs
>>319
上にも書いたが、一大事のダービーで、
老害は勝浦に被されそうになって早めに脚を使わされたがな。
レース後にしっかりとそれを敗因に挙げていたがな。
それを行った勝浦は惨敗だがな。
322 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/20 00:15 ID:QZzERhvs
>>320
オペだけに依った見方をし過ぎだがな。
323 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/20 00:17 ID:8wkq4ZPO
>>321
今見たがどこだそのシーンは？
324 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/20 00:21 ID:8wkq4ZPO
>>322
あんなひどいマーク見たこと無いって事だよ。
極論だがオペVSそれ以外の騎手達って感じだったし。
兎に角自分の馬はどうでもいいからオペラオーをには絶対先頭でゴールさせないって感じだったしね。
とくに有馬では。
325 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/20 00:24 ID:tn//fyqE
オペがマークと確実に分かるマークを受けたのは00有馬と大阪杯と
01宝塚ぐらいか？それとももっとあるのか？
326 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/20 00:28 ID:8wkq4ZPO
>>325
JC両方。つぶしにかかるようなマークはこんなもんだな。
後は普通にマークされてた。
327 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/20 06:40 ID:XNE461w2
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328 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/20 06:45 ID:XNE461w2
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329 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/20 08:05 ID:d4/pLAku
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330 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/20 08:10 ID:d4/pLAku
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331 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/20 08:51 ID:d4/pLAku
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332 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/20 21:40 ID:oIZCHeu8
00年のJCはそこまでマークされていたように見えないが。
333 ：木村拓雄 ◆lsRAD9.8Ok ：04/03/20 23:53 ID:fNqPSzh4
オペラオーが勝った有馬記念の当日の朝頭を強打して内出血してたらしい
それであんなに手こずったのだね
和田騎手が下手だったとゆう奴は和田騎手に謝れ
334 ：グラ基地：04/03/21 00:02 ID:RBCHj2YQ
>>333
でも和田じゃなかったら、楽勝してたよ。
335 ：木村拓雄 ◆lsRAD9.8Ok ：04/03/21 00:04 ID:RiGk1W2Y
んなわけねえだろ
しかし少なくとも００年有馬より０１年有馬のが状態は全然良かったのだね
負けたけど
336 ：グラ基地：04/03/21 00:05 ID:RBCHj2YQ
>>335
馬に聞いたの？
337 ：木村拓雄 ◆lsRAD9.8Ok ：04/03/21 00:08 ID:RiGk1W2Y
岩元調教師のインタブーで今だから言いますけど
有馬の朝はアクシデントがあったんですよて言ってた
頭部を強打して内出血してたんだって
338 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/21 00:08 ID:GErCEtZi
マンハッタンには並ぶ間もなく抜かれたがな
339 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/21 00:08 ID:AMO3uMo6
>>334
なんせ空き巣だからネ
340 ：グラ基地：04/03/21 00:09 ID:RBCHj2YQ
>>338
誰だ？おまいは。
341 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/21 00:10 ID:0SDY3go3
あの増上慢な武を屈服させ海外逃亡させた馬
342 ：木村拓雄 ◆lsRAD9.8Ok ：04/03/21 00:11 ID:RiGk1W2Y
別に中山が苦手なわけじゃなかったのだなあ
343 ：グラ基地：04/03/21 00:11 ID:RBCHj2YQ
>>341
宗教関係者は死ね！！
344 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/21 00:32 ID:8mrR0lBU
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345 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/21 00:38 ID:8mrR0lBU
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346 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/21 06:28 ID:9X9Aa/Ij
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347 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/21 06:54 ID:9X9Aa/Ij
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348 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/21 07:15 ID:9X9Aa/Ij
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349 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/21 07:28 ID:9X9Aa/Ij
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350 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/21 07:31 ID:9X9Aa/Ij
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351 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/21 07:34 ID:9X9Aa/Ij
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352 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/21 07:58 ID:GErCEtZi
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353 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/21 10:48 ID:XYD+I/PI
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354 ：名無しさん＠お馬で人生アウト：04/03/21 10:56 ID:XYD+I/PI
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