you're idiot then! dirty hicky! why dont you kill yourself! you are worthless piece of scum! you will never go to waseda your only way is third rate college
1) you're going to die a virgin 2) you are nover obtain any friends 3) you will never get a job 4) you can do nothing but suicide. this is your reality
so you have only two ways: 1) after few years in your room(most like 3-5) you will finally leave your room and finish highschool! you will be 22-25. can you imagine it? 22-25 and just finished highschool how silly! 2)you will never leave your room and commit suicide after few years. the choose is yours
I was a college student. unable to made any friends. it was painful to sit alone with unfamiliar people around me. I was an alien. I'm not fat or ugly, but I am unable to open myself. I'm dropped-out.
Now I am sitting alone in my dark room, feeling guilty and sad
i get up and nothing gets me down you got it tough i've seen the toughest soul around and i know,baby just how you feel you got to roll with the punches to get to what's real ah, can't you see me standing here? i got my back against the record machine i ain't the worst that you've seen don't you know what i mean? you might as well jump! you might as well jump! go ahead!
who? well this thread is doing well. let's more chat in english. how do you want to spend CHRISTMAS ??? I really have noone to spend it with. I am alone.
I'm still swirling It's a dark, lonely place I thought you could maybe rescue me somehow, I still feel that way Unsure what to do I'm moved by the scent of rain
Having reached an impasse in my work and in myself, I sought to acquaint myself with everyday ennui, sired by apathy and restlessness Ever-fleeing the authenticity of my own experience, I was entirely spent by a life, composed of accumulated fictions
>>142 Don't joke. We aren't stupid. Stupidity is speech to hint at you. Then why should we die? Please teach a reason. If you said such a thing without what reason, I doubt your mind. If there is time watching this HIKKY board, I think that you had better consult me to a doctor in a mental hospital.
I really want to die too. I think I will buy pills and use it with vodka or champaigne. it's really can work, just use many, dont eat 2 days and then took a lot of pills drink vodka or champaigne and you're finished. will try it as soon as I go to the magazine to buy them. do you know any names?
I came to hate living. However, it is scary to die. If somebody kills me, it may be the best happiness for me. The government should install an institution to do euthanasia. I wanted not to be born in Japan. This country is unsuitable for me.
I think hikkies should start to do creative things.. you know all I did it was reading books and watching movies and exploing internet.. so my head is started to be filled with various ideas.. so I started to draw... can't say that I good draw but it's gives me correct look at life, and aim... good luck...
let's talk a little.... I am 19years old. do you feel panic sometimes? I do. something I think that this will be for all the times.. It made me crazy and bitter
I also feel like that sometimes. It's tough, but it doesn't last too long. I think it might be better if it did last a while, though, because it might force me to change my lifestyle.
Do you know hikky girl from 20six blog? she writed on her blog almost 1.5 years ago but she deleted in autumn 2004... and since then I dont know anything about her. ...
I know this is painful question... but what are you gonna to do on xmas and other winter shit???? I dont know... I will be sitting in the front of my pc
>>272 it's none of your business don't think anything about other people because they have the way they live, and you also have the way you live there is no manual for living you can make your own manual and no one can say about it
I understand roots of my anxiety. it's because I hate being alone. I just can't stand it. I spend so much time alone and come to hate it badly it's drives me insane I can't do anything
You can speak English. The most HIKIKOMORI cannot speak English I think. It's a wounderful skill. You should make use of the ability. You will be able surely to break status quo if so.
hey guys, i just found this thread. i started another thread cos i didn't know this was going already >>299 good luck, hope it comes through >>294 yeah i think our body clocks get pretty twisted >>292 yeah i think anyone who can speak more than one language is doing pretty well. though english is overrated lol >>285-287 hope you guys are doing ok >>277 sometimes being left alone with your own head can drive you insane. do you have a form of escape? >>274 agree :) >>271 i was really mad when this story came out anyway, hope to catch you guys on here
i think anything that takes your mind out of the situation is good, in terms of being able to cope i guess the problem is that the underlying stuff is still going to be there tommorrow, and the day after, and the day after, right? i haven't quite figured out how to tackle that yet :) but i think it's really good that your escape is a creative pursuit. at least you have something to show for it at the end (unlike passive escapes, which i tend to use), and you get to get better at your craft in terms of not being able to stand being alone, what is it exactly? is it too much time with your own head or need for human contact or something else?
>>307 when I am alone for a long time(like month! only with parents) everything starts to be boring and annoying to me. in other words I can't see/have joy in the everything! I just wants sleep forever I am that guy who was hikky for 11month! now I am not hikky but it's still affect my life. even 11 month of being hikky!
>>308 i think some people cope with being alone better than others. are things better now that you're out of being hikky? like sometimes maybe just walking around might make you feel better? or getting in contact with friends? "in other words I can't see/have joy in the everything! I just wants sleep forever" i know what you're talking about with this. i don't know, have you thought about antidepressant medication? i don't think it would work for me, but it may be something to consider if you're feeling really bad all the time hey man, at least you're out of being hikky, and you did it relatively quickly. i think a number of us would like to be at that point right now when you say that being hikky has affected your life, can you expand on this?
>>310 i don't know, i guess we take one day at a time then right? :)
>>311 yes. Actually there was a trouble in my family, our's income lowed gradually + something I dont want to talk about there was some kind of depression atmosphere at home, so I become depressive myself. and then it's leads to hikky. now my family doing good and I slowly starts to recovery but I wasted 11 month of my life. but I gain a lot of bravely because of being alone. explain how hikky affected my life? Ok. by being so much time alone I become alienated, I usually dont smile a lot my motivation is hard to gain! recently I was walked with a girl and she was smiled all the way, and being very talk-active. she was a creature from another planet for me. she talked about how she is being happy with her friends and all other stuff like that. it's completely unknown to me... Well at least I know that I am handsome. but I still have no friends. but I lose all my shyness and shame !!! yes I feel a lot better, but there are actually a lot of things I need to do
that's no good that you had family troubles, i know that can affect you pretty deeply when things are not right at home. glad to hear things have gotten better i also feel loss of the time i spent being hikky, but i don't think you should feel too bad. in the longer scheme of things, 11 months is not a long time, plus like you say, there are some things you gain from that experience i guess one step at a time right? i think it's bound to take time for you to feel well enough inside to smile and feel motivated to do things. and i think it takes time to develop friendships too the girl you walked with sounds like the naturally bubbly type, but sometimes people who are like this on the outside aren't necessarily happy on the inside also, the things that make her happy aren't necessarily the same things that will make you happy, right? i think as long as you feel you're making progress, that's the main thing. and it sounds like you are :)
another problem is after being 11 month in isolation I am forgot many social rules and other thing like that!!! so I act rather strange sometimes.. but that's ok... I am working on myself... Also there is time gap between me and people around me. I am older than they. so I always need to look best of them. which is hard...
aw man, you can't forget that much in 11 months can you? anyway, everyone's got their own "strange" behaviour in some way and the time gap isn't great, i don't think anyone would be able to tell
>>315 dont forget that I had some troubles in my family which already led to forgetting something and yes, I doubt that if were super social active person you can forget so much in 11 months. but if you were not very social active person, that yes, you can forget that much...
i think i know what you mean. and i guess 11 months can seem like a lot longer than that if you're troubled, so i think i can see how things can be easily forgotten. but hopefully everything will come back to you now that you're "out there" again :) where did everyone go from this thread? there seemed to be a fair bit of activity further up
hmm, i've often wondered what i'd say if someone asked me that to be honest, i don't think i have an articulate, concise answer to that question i think like for everyone, there are a whole multitude of contributing factors some of which i'm ok with talking about, some of them i'm not :)
>>325 i guess then yeah, i have hikky mentality somewhat >>326 when i said "i'm going to run", it's an expression for "i'm leaving now". i didn't mean i was going to go jogging :) >>327 i actually went to sleep *sigh* i guess i don't blame you guys for being suspicious if the trolling that was going on earlier in this thread is common here it's still frustrating though
I am that guy from yesterday!!! I think try to download cd by band called lali puna they write about hikkies I think. not extracly about them, but very very close. songs like alienation etc or just about people who lost their way in life... you should try it
lol actually you sort of got it. i actually did finish my basic course but didn't want to go on further, and that's part of the reason i'm hikky are they a japanese band? what else have you been listening to?
no. but their female leader is korean girl who lived in german since birth! she did not have a parents, so german couple take her to the germany. download their cd called "Scary World Theory". she sung in english. also there is a nice music video on their song called micronomic...
i don't know, i find it hard to believe that the ratio of male to female hikkys would be skewed over say 80%. that's like 4 male hikkys to every 1 female hikky wasn't there a blog by a female hikky? anyone know of any other hikky blogs?
I could see the ratio being that skewed. When it comes to things like this, it seems only natural that the male portion would be larger. I'm not exactly sure why that is, though...
only other thing i found was: www.geocities.jp/hikikomori_research/deta/18.pdf in which over 80% of the study participants were male, but i don't know how representative a sample they used (i couldn't even read half the damn thing cos it didn't open properly in acrobat)
like i said, i really can't see there being 4 male hikkys for every female hikky. i think the under-reporting is more plausible. any thoughts?
why do you want to find a female hikky? you should forgot everything about hikky and start living. I know it's not possibile anytime.. it's hard actually
>>351 well, i don't think anybody has a burning desire to discuss the gender of hikkys. if you look further up you'll see that it pretty much came up as a point of conversation if you're not ok with discussing it, by all means start another topic. i'm pretty much open to discussing anything, and i'm sure other people are the same i mean, even on the demographics alone there's lots of other areas that can be discussed so what would you like to talk about?
the most problem of hikky is that he thinks only about himself. but people dont think about mysery even I am (ex-hikky, 11 months) dont have any good feelings for hikkies! I only wasted 11 months... it's really suck
well, since >>351 was incapable of coming up with a topic of conversation, i'm going to throw this open to you guys >>356 dude, i don't quite understand. are you saying that you think hikkys main problem is that they're selfish? and why don't you have any good feelings towards hikkys?
>>357 because they are losers who destroy their life with their own hands.. if you understand it you are almost cured. (yeah, I am that ex-hikky, 11 months)
>>359 well, i guess everyone's entitled to their opinion i would have thought that you'd be a bit more sympathetic, having been in that situation yourself. just like you had particular life circumstances that led to you becoming hikky, i would think that most other people do as well i think it's a bit unfair to reduce it to hikkys being "losers who destroy their life with their own hands", as if it's some wilful choice that they've made that could easily have been avoided, had they not been "thinking only about themselves" maybe i misunderstand you
some possible options for discussion that i can think of: - hikikomori demographics (age, gender, socioeconomic background, numbers etc) - validity of hikikomori as a classification - social factors that have led to the hikikomori phenomenon in japan - aspects of hikikomori lifestyle - differing approaches to hikky recovery - long term effects of being hikky on the individual and society - media portrayal of hikikomori - totally non-hikky related stuff like i said, you guys call it (if anyone's even reading this, that is). i'm just going to chime in from now on
the most problem for me is that I am tired of female attention! they see their wonderful prince in me. but I am not their prince. actually I am pretty idiot! but it's end that only I am being hurted fuck that
>>363 well, ok, i'm sure you have your reasons for feeling like that >>364 oh well, i guess too much attention is better than too little attention. maybe if you spend more time with them they'll see you for who you are
What is the importance of Japan, of your origins, in your music ? Tokyo, eutopia, too many information, emptiness, giving up, subway, all night people, consuming addiction.
The fact that it is born in Japan is regretted, truly. The citizen of this country even excessively is too dark. The newspaper and the weekly magazine,news program and Osada and others, ignore the fact where the unkind treatment has happened in the school criticize just the hikikomori. Also the citizen and others, is deceived in such reporting. With their consequences, I have done the thinking where the shoulder body is narrow. In addition, the Japanese is too harsh vis-a-vis the eye and the like which others saw. Many degrees, were laughed in the person who is not recognized. When such present condition is criticized, the traitor it was handled in the netuyoku. It is harsh truly.