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俺より強い名無しに会いにいく:
もはや、完全に業界関係者の間で定着してきた感のある用語
いまさら説明の必要はないが“ねずみプレーヤー”をまだ知らない人のために定義を提示
・格ゲーにおいて性能の高いキャラクターを批判する傾向
・作業的なスタイル、安易な永久コンボを否定する傾向
・上記のスタイルを持つプレイヤーを嘲笑したり、否定する傾向
という風にまとめられる。
つまり、「なんでもありの真剣勝負を否定し、自身が持つ様々な価値観や
美意識を理由に対戦において規範・制約を設けて、他人にもそれを強要する思想」
のことを指すといえる。
なぜ“ねずみ”と呼ばれるかについては、この手合いの人間が
「○○厨は〜」などと批判の矛先にある相手のスタイルを蔑称で
呼び、たとえそのスタイルにより負けを喫しても「本当の負けではない」と
言い張る事が多々あるために、
「○○厨といって逃げてる」→「チュウチュウといって逃げ回るネズミ」
というようにセメント(ガチンコ勝負の意)派からは軽視されているようだ。
↓以後ねずみプレーヤー達の、不安にかられた弁解
こんな良スレみたことない
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俺より強い名無しに会いにいく:2009/04/11(土) 09:56:20 ID:Kp0uL+RpO
糞スレ
ぽっぽっぽ〜
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俺より強い名無しに会いにいく:2009/04/11(土) 10:45:17 ID:QsFBHKYP0
>>1 なんでもありなら別にいいだろ
お前が一番他人を否定してるじゃん
どうせ二択が読み合いと勘違いしてるやつだろ
ガチを極めるとそういう方向に行く場合が多いのも知らないのかよ
全国トッププレイヤーの中でも頭一つ飛び出てる奴は
強キャラ使っても、作業ゲーはしないんだよ
どうせ雑誌の情報とか鵜呑みにしちゃう中途半端な強さだろ
ガチの意味わかるほどやり込んでから意見しろや
器の小さい野朗だ
糞スレ 終了
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うみうしがあらわれた!:2009/04/11(土) 10:54:19 ID:u+zrXaZUO
──うみうしはようすをみている──
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海のソーメンはあまり食べたくないな
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俺より強い名無しに会いにいく:2009/04/12(日) 01:10:13 ID:/fUCg/XX0
>>5 ガチの定義は真剣勝負であって、作業を嫌うことではないよ。
あと、
>>1がいいたいのは、他人のプレイスタイルに口だすなってことで、
トッププレーヤーがどういう方向にいこうがこの話題に関係ないんじゃない。
反対意見するならするで、もう少し言葉しらないと相手してもらえないよ。
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俺より強い名無しに会いにいく:2009/04/12(日) 01:21:34 ID:ZSS86uvOO
4:俺より強い名無しに会いにいく :2009/03/25(水) 01:15:55 ID:pjunM9Ja0 [sage]
■詭弁のガイドライン
1.事実に対して仮定を持ち出す
2.ごくまれな反例をとりあげる
3.自分に有利な将来像を予想する
4.主観で決め付ける
5.資料を示さず持論が支持されていると思わせる
6.一見、関係がありそうで関係のない話を始める
7.陰謀であると力説する
8.知能障害を起こす
9.自分の見解を述べずに人格批判をする
10.ありえない解決策を図る
11.レッテル貼りをする
12.決着した話を経緯を無視して蒸し返す
13.勝利宣言をする
14.細かい部分のミスを指摘し相手を無知と認識させる
15.新しい概念が全て正しいのだとミスリードする
16.全てか無かで途中を認めないか、あえて無視する
17.勝手に極論化して、結論の正当性に疑問を呈する
18.自分で話をずらしておいて、「話をずらすな」と相手を批難する
もうすぐ俺の誕生日なんだが
この年になると誕生日もあまりめでたくないなあなんて思ってさ
誰も祝ってくれないから自分で祝うよ
1 :俺より強い名無しに会いにいく:2007/02/06(火) 02:57:00 ID:ME5qk/cX0
最近ゲームセンターや口コミで“ねずみ”と云われるプレイヤーの存在が
フィーチャーされてきている。ここでは“ねずみ”プレイヤーの思想や
その影響力について、各プレイヤーの意見を交わしていきたい。
ねずみプレイヤーの定義ははっきりとしないが、おおまかに特徴をあげると
・格ゲーにおいて性能の高いキャラクターを批判する傾向
・作業的なスタイル、安易な永久コンボを否定する傾向
〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜
検索したらこれしかでなかったが・・・
さらになぜ今更2年前のものを
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10:2009/04/15(水) 01:24:43 ID:mKpW5rmq0
おめ
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ねずみプレイヤーとは?
こんな良スレみたことない
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