burberry prorsum only 2
952 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/12 00:13
ちっ、ズレた
953 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/12 00:14
>>952
すまん
すまん
954 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/12 00:15
気にするなzggy
955 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/12 00:26
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|＿|´・ω・`) あの・・・お茶ですけど
|雲| ｏ o旦~
|￣|―ｕ'
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| |∧_∧
|＿|´・ω・`) 置いとくんで、後で飲んでね。
|陽| ｏ ヽｺﾄ
|￣|―ｕ' 旦~
""""""""""
| |∧_∧
|＿|´・ω・`) あの・・・お茶ですけど
|雲| ｏ o旦~
|￣|―ｕ'
""""""""""
| |
| |∧_∧
|＿|´・ω・`) 置いとくんで、後で飲んでね。
|陽| ｏ ヽｺﾄ
|￣|―ｕ' 旦~
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957 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/12 01:16
―――――――――――――‐┬┘zggyの登場まだ〜〜〜〜〜〜〜!!!!!!!!!!!
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＿＿＿＿.＿＿＿＿ | ﾄﾞｼｬｰﾝ! ヽ ｵﾗｵﾗｯ!!
| || | | ＝≡＝ ∧ ∧ ☆
| || | |♪ ／ 〃（･∀･ #） / ｼｬﾝｼｬﾝ
| || | |♪ 〆 ┌＼と＼と.ヾ∈≡∋ゞ
| || | | || γ ⌒ヽヽコ ノ ||
| || | | ||ΣΣ .|:::|∪〓 || ♪
￣￣￣￣'￣￣￣￣ | .／|＼人 ＿.ノノ _||_. ／|＼
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＿＿＿＿.＿＿＿＿ | ﾄﾞｼｬｰﾝ! ヽ ｵﾗｵﾗｯ!!
| || | | ＝≡＝ ∧ ∧ ☆
| || | |♪ ／ 〃（･∀･ #） / ｼｬﾝｼｬﾝ
| || | |♪ 〆 ┌＼と＼と.ヾ∈≡∋ゞ
| || | | || γ ⌒ヽヽコ ノ ||
| || | | ||ΣΣ .|:::|∪〓 || ♪
￣￣￣￣'￣￣￣￣ | .／|＼人 ＿.ノノ _||_. ／|＼
958 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/12 01:22
次スレ立てちゃったのか・・・
>>937
McQueenのeyewear情報ありがとうございます。
そういえば伊勢丹に唯一店が残ってましたよね。期待少なながら行ってみようとおもいます。
サングラス選びは難しい、連戦連敗中、というか合わないのかな。かけてる自分が妙に照れくさい。でもほしい。
>Histoire de Voir ってどうなんですか、
>ttp://www.histoire-de-voir.com/images-news/news-en.jpg
カッコイイ！って思うけどあくまでつけるのは自分ってこと考えないとまた。
あと、このimg気に入ってH.P.のもの見ましたけど、レザーが妙におばさんくさい、というかmadameっぽいのがちょっと微妙かな・・・。
まず今週末いろいろ回ってみようと思います。
>>886
>>ある種のリアリティーを伴わないスタイル・・・有限とすることで浮かび・・・
Cdiemがまさにそれかな。
自分はまだ、境界を完全に無視してるわけじゃないけど承知の上で逸脱する快感、
律儀に信号待ちする人々の横を通り過ぎてく そんな感じ。 なんかハズイなぁ・・・
ttp://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/bal-te.trend19apr19,0,4224447.story?coll=bal-nationworld-headlines
この記事期限切れで途中までしか読んでませんが、とても読みやすい！
あんな感じか、って具合で絵が浮かんできます。
それにしても
the men with shirts over shirts over shirts.
ってｗ
ちょいわらえました。間違ってはないですからね。
McQueenのeyewear情報ありがとうございます。
そういえば伊勢丹に唯一店が残ってましたよね。期待少なながら行ってみようとおもいます。
サングラス選びは難しい、連戦連敗中、というか合わないのかな。かけてる自分が妙に照れくさい。でもほしい。
>Histoire de Voir ってどうなんですか、
>ttp://www.histoire-de-voir.com/images-news/news-en.jpg
カッコイイ！って思うけどあくまでつけるのは自分ってこと考えないとまた。
あと、このimg気に入ってH.P.のもの見ましたけど、レザーが妙におばさんくさい、というかmadameっぽいのがちょっと微妙かな・・・。
まず今週末いろいろ回ってみようと思います。
>>886
>>ある種のリアリティーを伴わないスタイル・・・有限とすることで浮かび・・・
Cdiemがまさにそれかな。
自分はまだ、境界を完全に無視してるわけじゃないけど承知の上で逸脱する快感、
律儀に信号待ちする人々の横を通り過ぎてく そんな感じ。 なんかハズイなぁ・・・
ttp://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/bal-te.trend19apr19,0,4224447.story?coll=bal-nationworld-headlines
この記事期限切れで途中までしか読んでませんが、とても読みやすい！
あんな感じか、って具合で絵が浮かんできます。
それにしても
the men with shirts over shirts over shirts.
ってｗ
ちょいわらえました。間違ってはないですからね。
960 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 01:03
自分はまだ、境界を完全に無視してるわけじゃないけど承知の上で逸脱する快感、
律儀に信号待ちする人々の横を通り過ぎてく そんな感じ。 なんかハズイなぁ・・・
ﾊｹﾞﾜﾗw
これ以上笑わせないでくれw
おまえは何も知らないで逸脱してるだろw
律儀に信号待ちする人々の横を通り過ぎてく そんな感じ。 なんかハズイなぁ・・・
ﾊｹﾞﾜﾗw
これ以上笑わせないでくれw
おまえは何も知らないで逸脱してるだろw
961 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 01:34
＞＞９５９
脱ヲタのチビが臆面もなくよくこんな文章かけんな。
禿げしくキモイ。相当なナルシストだな。
脱ヲタのチビが臆面もなくよくこんな文章かけんな。
禿げしくキモイ。相当なナルシストだな。
粘着で有名なスレはここですか？
963 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 01:37
うわ、ナルシスト登場
キモイ
キモイ
粘着て凄いね
965 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 01:50
名無しじゃなくてzggyで書けば？バレバレなんだからさ。
966 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 01:51
粘着ってほんとしつこいねコンプレックス持ってるんだろうねｗ
967 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 01:53
おまえも脱ヲタコンプ丸出しだろ。つうかzggyで書けよ
968 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 01:55
粘着を超えてるねｗストーカーの域だｗ
969 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 01:56
わかったわかった。
で、何で荒らす時は名無しなんだ？
で、何で荒らす時は名無しなんだ？
970 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 02:02
まだやってるよｗ
何日目だ？
何日目だ？
971 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 02:04
972 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 02:05
973 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 02:09
お前がな
974 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 02:10
救いようのないアホだな
975 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 02:11
アホはお前だろ粘着
>>959 zggy
今、見たら移されてました。
すいません。でもどこにシャツのこと出てました？
どこまであったのかわかんないですけど一応これで全部です。
For some, fashion is full-time job
Japan: Underemployed urban youths create a trendsetting look.
By Gady A. Epstein
TOKYO - Self-consciously parading down the street, the young men and women wear floppy hats,
coats of many colors and handbags strapped around their shoulders.
Their clothes come at you layer upon layer, even in the warmth of spring: the women with
skirts over jeans over stockings, the men with shirts over shirts over shirts. Some wear
nerdy black-rimmed glasses, or just the empty frames - the coup de grace of style over
substance.
These urban men and women are the epitome of cool in today's Japan.
They are so cool that a handful of Westerners earn a living by tracking these trendsetters
in their trendy neighborhoods, including Harajuku and Shibuya in Tokyo and Amerikamura
(American Village) in Osaka. Japan has produced an indigenous, must-see brand of cool.
今、見たら移されてました。
すいません。でもどこにシャツのこと出てました？
どこまであったのかわかんないですけど一応これで全部です。
For some, fashion is full-time job
Japan: Underemployed urban youths create a trendsetting look.
By Gady A. Epstein
TOKYO - Self-consciously parading down the street, the young men and women wear floppy hats,
coats of many colors and handbags strapped around their shoulders.
Their clothes come at you layer upon layer, even in the warmth of spring: the women with
skirts over jeans over stockings, the men with shirts over shirts over shirts. Some wear
nerdy black-rimmed glasses, or just the empty frames - the coup de grace of style over
substance.
These urban men and women are the epitome of cool in today's Japan.
They are so cool that a handful of Westerners earn a living by tracking these trendsetters
in their trendy neighborhoods, including Harajuku and Shibuya in Tokyo and Amerikamura
(American Village) in Osaka. Japan has produced an indigenous, must-see brand of cool.
"They are doing in fashion what they did before in industry. They take parts of the good
stuff from everywhere and they create their own style," said Loic Bizel, a Frenchman who
takes Western design and retailing clients on his Tokyo Fashion Tour.
"When I go to Paris, I sit in a French terrace of a cafe, and after two hours I fall asleep.
I'm bored because everybody's wearing the same thing," Bizel said. "When you are here, you
can stay all day and never get bored."
Japan's practitioners of cool are mostly oblivious to the fact that they are being closely
watched by foreigners, or even that they are indeed this cool.
Most of them still live with their parents. They work part-time jobs. They spend most of the
money they earn on clothes. It may be that haunting sense of inevitability, of the seeming
conformity of Japanese adulthood that awaits them, that drives their individuality now.
stuff from everywhere and they create their own style," said Loic Bizel, a Frenchman who
takes Western design and retailing clients on his Tokyo Fashion Tour.
"When I go to Paris, I sit in a French terrace of a cafe, and after two hours I fall asleep.
I'm bored because everybody's wearing the same thing," Bizel said. "When you are here, you
can stay all day and never get bored."
Japan's practitioners of cool are mostly oblivious to the fact that they are being closely
watched by foreigners, or even that they are indeed this cool.
Most of them still live with their parents. They work part-time jobs. They spend most of the
money they earn on clothes. It may be that haunting sense of inevitability, of the seeming
conformity of Japanese adulthood that awaits them, that drives their individuality now.
Into the gray
Becoming an adult in urban Japan often means entering the gray, homogenous universe of
corporate culture. Newcomers are immediately stripped of exterior individuality and
assigned a uniform: The men don the business suit of the salaryman, the women wear the skirt
and blouse of an office girl, and their hair had better be black. For many Japanese youths,
it is not something to look forward to, and after the long economic slog following Japan's
go-go 1980s, it's definitely not cool. It's much more fun to hang out with friends, shop and
look different.
"By using fashion I can express what I feel inside, the kind of person I am, so in a way
it's a weapon to show myself," said Shoichiro Shimizu, 21, on one recent afternoon in
Osaka's Amerikamura.
He is wearing a silver hat made of wallpaper, oversize sunglasses, gold-colored $170 shoes,
spotted yellow stocking pants, a white dress and a purple coat and matching purple handbag.
"In Japan, it's important that all people do the same thing, and I always felt that was
strange," he said. "I am me, and I want to be myself, so why should I have to give that up
in order to do the same things as other people?"
Many young Japanese choosing edgy outfits are less introspective than Shimizu. Many are just
putting on a fashion show for their peers, the followers of trendsetters they see around
them, which finds them paradoxically trying to be both "unique" and "trendy."
Becoming an adult in urban Japan often means entering the gray, homogenous universe of
corporate culture. Newcomers are immediately stripped of exterior individuality and
assigned a uniform: The men don the business suit of the salaryman, the women wear the skirt
and blouse of an office girl, and their hair had better be black. For many Japanese youths,
it is not something to look forward to, and after the long economic slog following Japan's
go-go 1980s, it's definitely not cool. It's much more fun to hang out with friends, shop and
look different.
"By using fashion I can express what I feel inside, the kind of person I am, so in a way
it's a weapon to show myself," said Shoichiro Shimizu, 21, on one recent afternoon in
Osaka's Amerikamura.
He is wearing a silver hat made of wallpaper, oversize sunglasses, gold-colored $170 shoes,
spotted yellow stocking pants, a white dress and a purple coat and matching purple handbag.
"In Japan, it's important that all people do the same thing, and I always felt that was
strange," he said. "I am me, and I want to be myself, so why should I have to give that up
in order to do the same things as other people?"
Many young Japanese choosing edgy outfits are less introspective than Shimizu. Many are just
putting on a fashion show for their peers, the followers of trendsetters they see around
them, which finds them paradoxically trying to be both "unique" and "trendy."
Horoshi Hori, 17, tried to explain his choice of a white baseball cap, tilted sideways, and
his nerdy black-frame glasses while he was walking through Harajuku. "Because everybody's
wearing it," the Tokyo high school student said, then in the next breath, "Original. It's
original." When his buddy from school pointed out the inherent contradiction, Hori conceded
sheepishly, "I'm the kind of person who is easily influenced by trends."
It might seem strange that, with more than 10 years of tough economic times behind them,
Tokyo teens and young adults have the kind of money it takes to follow trends. In a perverse
way, it's the economy that has created this generation: Because young adults can't afford
to buy houses of their own and find it difficult to get a full-time job with a good salary,
they live with their parents and join the legions of arubeito, or part-time workers.
Many of those interviewed said they spent at least several hundred dollars a month on
clothes, sometimes as much as 80 percent of their income from part-time jobs. Their designer
brand of conspicuous consumption has become the mark of the part-timer.
On a recent evening, watching a fashion show's worth of daring outfits go by in twos and
threes, Bizel pointed out one of the many young men with a designer handbag.
his nerdy black-frame glasses while he was walking through Harajuku. "Because everybody's
wearing it," the Tokyo high school student said, then in the next breath, "Original. It's
original." When his buddy from school pointed out the inherent contradiction, Hori conceded
sheepishly, "I'm the kind of person who is easily influenced by trends."
It might seem strange that, with more than 10 years of tough economic times behind them,
Tokyo teens and young adults have the kind of money it takes to follow trends. In a perverse
way, it's the economy that has created this generation: Because young adults can't afford
to buy houses of their own and find it difficult to get a full-time job with a good salary,
they live with their parents and join the legions of arubeito, or part-time workers.
Many of those interviewed said they spent at least several hundred dollars a month on
clothes, sometimes as much as 80 percent of their income from part-time jobs. Their designer
brand of conspicuous consumption has become the mark of the part-timer.
On a recent evening, watching a fashion show's worth of daring outfits go by in twos and
threes, Bizel pointed out one of the many young men with a designer handbag.
"You see that guy with a bag? You don't see that in France. It will come. It will come, I am
sure. Fashionable bags will come," Bizel said, repeating the prediction so many times that
it didn't seem absurd by the time he stopped. "All the main brands, they are starting to
make men's bags, fashionable bags."
But it's unclear whether the bags will catch on. Many looks are tested here that wouldn't
make it in the West. The looks often emerge from the imaginative artwork of manga comic
books and anime movies, distinctive and popular forms of Japanese entertainment, resulting
in colorful, ultra-cute, futuristic or otherwise outlandish cartoon styles.
"Instead of the designers setting the trends, it's kind of the people on the street setting
the trends because of what they see around them," said Kjeld Duits, a Dutch photographer and
journalist living in Osaka who tracks the latest trends for the Web site
JapaneseStreets.com.
sure. Fashionable bags will come," Bizel said, repeating the prediction so many times that
it didn't seem absurd by the time he stopped. "All the main brands, they are starting to
make men's bags, fashionable bags."
But it's unclear whether the bags will catch on. Many looks are tested here that wouldn't
make it in the West. The looks often emerge from the imaginative artwork of manga comic
books and anime movies, distinctive and popular forms of Japanese entertainment, resulting
in colorful, ultra-cute, futuristic or otherwise outlandish cartoon styles.
"Instead of the designers setting the trends, it's kind of the people on the street setting
the trends because of what they see around them," said Kjeld Duits, a Dutch photographer and
journalist living in Osaka who tracks the latest trends for the Web site
JapaneseStreets.com.
Echoes
These looks may not translate directly into Western clothing catalogs, but pieces or echoes
of them do catch on. Fashion designers are drawn here because of that uninhibited style that
is so hard to replicate in Paris, New York and Los Angeles.
"It's so 'anything goes.' I mean, people push the limit there," said Jane Singer, publisher
of Inside Fashion, a trade magazine that features Duits' work. Speaking in a telephone
interview from New York, Singer said, "Here, guys will go just so far to do something
trendy, but would they actually wear a skirt or carry a handbag?"
For trend watchers like Duits and Bizel, this raises the question of what Japanese society
is like under the surface. When these uninhibited youths, who have been on the outer edge of
cool for years, finally move on to the far more conservatively clothed world of adulthood,
are they assuming their true inner nature, having had their fun? Or are they merely
concealing their inner nature to earn a regular paycheck?
These youths' images change so easily when they're seeking out the latest cool thing that
their transformation into adulthood may be an extension of the same phenomenon, Bizel said.
"The facade, the appearance is very important," Bizel said. "This may explain why they can
change very quickly, because it's only appearance. It's not what's inside."
But Duits, who has lived in Japan for 22 years, believes that Japanese society is at an
important stage of sorting out its identity. Today's younger generations, he said, are more
confident about expressing themselves than the "incredibly uncool" young people he saw when
he first came to Japan.
He worries, though, that once this period of self-examination is over, Japan's trendsetting
days may come to an end: "I hope it will last a long time, because it's my income, [but] I
don't think it will last."
These looks may not translate directly into Western clothing catalogs, but pieces or echoes
of them do catch on. Fashion designers are drawn here because of that uninhibited style that
is so hard to replicate in Paris, New York and Los Angeles.
"It's so 'anything goes.' I mean, people push the limit there," said Jane Singer, publisher
of Inside Fashion, a trade magazine that features Duits' work. Speaking in a telephone
interview from New York, Singer said, "Here, guys will go just so far to do something
trendy, but would they actually wear a skirt or carry a handbag?"
For trend watchers like Duits and Bizel, this raises the question of what Japanese society
is like under the surface. When these uninhibited youths, who have been on the outer edge of
cool for years, finally move on to the far more conservatively clothed world of adulthood,
are they assuming their true inner nature, having had their fun? Or are they merely
concealing their inner nature to earn a regular paycheck?
These youths' images change so easily when they're seeking out the latest cool thing that
their transformation into adulthood may be an extension of the same phenomenon, Bizel said.
"The facade, the appearance is very important," Bizel said. "This may explain why they can
change very quickly, because it's only appearance. It's not what's inside."
But Duits, who has lived in Japan for 22 years, believes that Japanese society is at an
important stage of sorting out its identity. Today's younger generations, he said, are more
confident about expressing themselves than the "incredibly uncool" young people he saw when
he first came to Japan.
He worries, though, that once this period of self-examination is over, Japan's trendsetting
days may come to an end: "I hope it will last a long time, because it's my income, [but] I
don't think it will last."
最初のTOKYO・・・で始まる段落の４行目で>shirts over over...
そのすぐ下の
These urban men and women are the epitome of cool in today's Japan.
ってとこまで載ってました。だから俺が読んだのはほんのさわりなんですね。
わざわざありがとうございます！
そのすぐ下の
These urban men and women are the epitome of cool in today's Japan.
ってとこまで載ってました。だから俺が読んだのはほんのさわりなんですね。
わざわざありがとうございます！
983 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 07:55
キモ・・・
984 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 08:27
＞＞９７５＝ｚｇｇｙ
無理しなくていいよ。
お前が阿呆で脱ヲタでチビなのは皆知ってるんだからw
無理しなくていいよ。
お前が阿呆で脱ヲタでチビなのは皆知ってるんだからw
985 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 08:58
zggyほどの粘着糞コテは珍しい
986 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/13 11:25
おまえらもzggyも両方粘着でウザイ。マジで早く消えろ。
zggyさんって表参道店にオープンした日に行きませんでした？
12時くらいかな？今期のストライプジャケ着た背の小さい人がいたんだよね。
買ったのは黒のストライプじゃない？
12時くらいかな？今期のストライプジャケ着た背の小さい人がいたんだよね。
買ったのは黒のストライプじゃない？
そうです。ストライプジャケ着てました。それが何か？
あーまじっすか。んじゃちょっとだけど見ましたよ。
なんでみんな低身長とか知ってんだろ？って思っただけです。
ちなみに俺はポエルの黒ジャケ着てました。暑かった。
俺のことなんて少しも気に留めなかったろうけどｗ
なんでみんな低身長とか知ってんだろ？って思っただけです。
ちなみに俺はポエルの黒ジャケ着てました。暑かった。
俺のことなんて少しも気に留めなかったろうけどｗ
990 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/14 20:59
さっさと埋めようよ！
991 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/14 21:03
粘着必死だなｗ
992 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/14 21:21
必死に埋めさせてもらいますよ。
993 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/14 21:22
プローサム＝陰湿
994 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/14 21:28
最後にライセンスの話でもどうですか？
995 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/14 21:29
それは出来ません
996 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/14 21:32
ライセンスは、いいよね。特にブラレは、最高ですわ。と言ってみる。
997 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/14 21:39
最後に、プローサムは、東京人の為の服。大阪人の俺は…買いたくても買えないだよ？
>>959 zggy
おっしゃるようなコントロールされて「逸脱」する態度は
日常の自明性に対抗できるほとんど唯一と言っていい手段として必要だと思います。
だから、たまに12 気筒が欲しくな・・・
>>982 zggy
レスありがとうございます。
シャツの事はおぼえてたのですが
オレがリンクを確認した時はすでに記事が全く無かったので。
で、これを受けて
当然ながらおもいきりズボラかましたくなるけど
現実はこの↓程度で。
'Not uncompromisingly stylish, but compromising stylishly'
おっしゃるようなコントロールされて「逸脱」する態度は
日常の自明性に対抗できるほとんど唯一と言っていい手段として必要だと思います。
だから、たまに12 気筒が欲しくな・・・
>>982 zggy
レスありがとうございます。
シャツの事はおぼえてたのですが
オレがリンクを確認した時はすでに記事が全く無かったので。
で、これを受けて
当然ながらおもいきりズボラかましたくなるけど
現実はこの↓程度で。
'Not uncompromisingly stylish, but compromising stylishly'
999 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/14 21:40
おわる。みっつ前。
1000 ：ノーブランドさん：04/05/14 21:40
1000
1001 ：１００１：
このスレッドは１０００を超えました。
もう書けないので、新しいスレッドを立ててくださいです。。。
もう書けないので、新しいスレッドを立ててくださいです。。。