Let's talk with Jim-san. Part20

>>870
> The haskell server has nothing to do with the ● login not working on 2ch.

It does. The reason why Unei is blocking Rokka on 2ch is that they don't trust
the Rokka server written in Haskell. As long as you don't rewrite the server software
in a language they understand, you don't fulfill Unei's requirement.

>>867
Jimは運営の言い分をまるで理解してないか意図的に無視してるみたいだし、駄目かもね。
なんか頑なにHaskellにこだわってるみたいだし、とても賢いとはいえないね。

>>871
They will just come up with something else then. They can enable
the ●　login without having to touch any haskell.
They won't enable it, because they don't want it. They have other plans.
Be the heron, don't be the duck.
Really get some sleep.

>>873
It's early in the morning where I live. You really don't understand what
I'm really trying to get across. UNEI DOESN'T TRUST THE CODE YOU WROTE.
Unfortunately, that's pretty understandable given the magnitude of
the debacle in August.

>>872
Jimの言い分を聞いていると、Rokkaの2chへの導入はとっくに諦めていて、
代わりに（今になって急に出てきた）Perlで書かれた新●を導入させようとしてる
と読めるんだけど、一体どういうことなんだろう？
Rokkaとは別に新たな●を開発していたなんて初めて聞いたんだが。
そもそも2chからJimに示された "requirements" とやらも不明だし…

>>874
Good morning to you then. The cause of that debacle has been determined.
The perpetrator has not. I am getting tired of going around in circles
with you.

>>873
Just to clarify my points:

(1) Unei doesn't trust the code you wrote in Haskell for Rokka.
(2) Therefore, the entire Rokka system, including the server software,
has to be written/rewritten in languages they understand.

>>876
Well, one of the servers you run was hacked, so you are at least partially
responsible for the leak. That's Unei's rational at least, and it is understandable IMO.
We are going around in circles because you don't understand how you are
perceived by Unei.

>>875
新● はRokkaのことだよ。Perlで書かれているのは認証の部分だけ。

>>877
What does IMO mean?

>>875
> そもそも2chからJimに示された "requirements" とやらも不明だし…

これは●スレの過去ログを読めば分かるよ。
ひろゆきはRokkaは運営がメンテ出来なきゃいけないって明言してるけど、
Jimがそれを無視してHaskellで書かれたサーバーサイドのソフトウェアを
書きなおしてないってのが現状。

>>879
"In My Opinion." I guess you really need some sleep. I'll let you go for now.

>>881
Yes, I really do need some sleep.
Please remember this saying.
Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one.

>>880
いや、それは俺も知ってるが、Jimが「要求事項を全て満たしたものを開発した」なんて
世迷いごとを言うもんだから、Jimに直接伝えられた事項があるのかと思ったんだ
All requirements the UNEI sent me の "sent" を曲解しすぎたようだ。

JimはログインだけPerlで書かれてればいいだろと思ってるようだが、
ちゃんと2chの要求事項が理解できてないのかね？
Jimに伝えられた "All requirements the UNEI sent me" の原文が見たいね。
まさか日本語で書かれたスレを機械翻訳したものから要求を読み取ったという訳でもあるまい。

>>882
Well, if you don't understand Unei's opinion, the entire 2ch will eventually leave
N.T.Technology behind. Good night.

>>884
If you have a request to Jim-san, you would be better explain what you want.