Let's talk with Jim-san. Part20

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844● xerxes.maido3.net
>>839
● works here. This is Pink Channel. Adults are in charge. I am patient with the children. I am not a liar. Consider who blocks ● on 2ch, and discuss that with them.
Let's make Pink Channel a nice place for adults to have conversation.
845名無し編集部員:2013/11/05(火) 20:12:38.85 ID:fN++Rj+9
>>844
PINKで動く仕様ですというのなら2ちゃんねるビューワーを名乗るページがあるのは何でなの
そのレスをここでするんじゃなくてホームページ上に記載すべきじゃないの?
846xerxes.maido3.net@Apparently admin ★:2013/11/05(火) 20:16:13.65 ID:???
>>845
ごめんあさい、すみーません。わからない。
847名無し編集部員:2013/11/05(火) 20:20:55.31 ID:bVzciZwP
ぐでぃぶにん
848名無し編集部員:2013/11/05(火) 20:25:46.78 ID:VNH2qqA9
>>846
What is the difference between ● described as >>844 and Rokka system?
849xerxes.maido3.net@Apparently admin ★:2013/11/05(火) 20:33:30.55 ID:???
>>844
Rokka just replaces a portion of the Maru system. It is not a total
replacement.
850名無し編集部員:2013/11/05(火) 20:44:14.97 ID:RTJheh2f
あなたはルートを2ちゃんねるに渡す条件として何か要求していますか?
851xerxes.maido3.net@Apparently admin ★:2013/11/05(火) 20:47:57.68 ID:???
>>850
2ch was already set up and functioned well, just like it currently
functions on Pink Channel. There are other reasons it is not live
on 2ch right now. You need to discuss those reasons with someone on
2ch. Try to see past the rhetoric.
852名無し編集部員:2013/11/05(火) 20:49:01.76 ID:zFBtoZ5F
>>844
Well, Unei has a pretty good reason to block ● on 2ch at this point.
You cannot deny the facts that private information of 2ch users was leaked because
● was hacked and that ● was sold and operated by N.T.Technology, a company you run.
That's a pretty good reason that Unei does not fully trust you with the Rokka system.

You are supposed to rewrite the Rokka system in PHP so that Unei can maintain the code.
How is that coming along? You wrote on 10/8 that it would probably take 2 to 3 weeks
to rewrite Rokka, and it has been 4 weeks already. If you don't keep your words,
nobody around here would trust you.
853xerxes.maido3.net@Apparently admin ★:2013/11/05(火) 21:01:36.28 ID:???
>>852
Rokka won't be rewritten in PHP. It is a waste of time. It seems
that you are listening to the rhetoric, or are one of the ones that
has been writing it.
854名無し編集部員:2013/11/05(火) 21:06:02.02 ID:zFBtoZ5F
>>853
What you are referring to as the "rhetoric" is a requirement by Unei.
No wonder Rokka is still blocked on 2ch. I'm disappointed.
855xerxes.maido3.net@Apparently admin ★:2013/11/05(火) 21:17:10.62 ID:???
>>854
Their behavior has been disappointing, but there is still hope
for an improvement.
856名無し編集部員:2013/11/05(火) 21:17:46.57 ID:zFBtoZ5F
>>855
It infuriates me that you didn't do your part and lied to us 2ch users.
If you were a mature adult, you would keep your words and have already paid
creators of 2ch browsers. I don't think Unei is particularly responsible,
but you don't strike me as somebody responsible at all.
857xerxes.maido3.net@Apparently admin ★:2013/11/05(火) 21:25:10.40 ID:???
>>856
I am sorry you are infuriated, however I have not lied to the 2ch users.
I also have not withheld money from the creators of 2ch browsers.
Thank you for your heated opinion, but it is not valid.
858名無し編集部員:2013/11/05(火) 21:32:08.25 ID:zFBtoZ5F
>>856
You said you would rewrite Rokka in PHP, and you didn't. You lied.
The creators of 2ch browsers haven't been paid for years. That is irresponsible.

I personally don't trust you any more.
859xerxes.maido3.net@Apparently admin ★:2013/11/05(火) 21:35:54.46 ID:???
>>858
Actually we did rewrite it, but it was did not work well. PHP is not a server, and
rokka is an actual server. Doing what is currently being done would be a sinch
however why just redo that, it seems to work well enough with the offlaw2
system that is currently live on 2ch. Personally, I doubt you ever trusted
me. If you did, you would not be a an anonymous right now.
860名無し編集部員:2013/11/05(火) 21:53:48.42 ID:zFBtoZ5F
>>859
Well, the problem is that you don't take requirements by Unei seriously.
If Rokka cannot be rewritten in PHP, you should write a new service/system in PHP.
Remember, N.T.Technology botched the old ● system with the August leak, and you are the one who has to regain the trust of Unei.

> Personally, I doubt you ever trusted
> me. If you did, you would not be a an anonymous right now.

Hmm... That's strange. I thought Pink was an anonymous BBS just like 2ch. No?
861xerxes.maido3.net@Apparently admin ★:2013/11/05(火) 22:07:03.02 ID:???
>>860
Actually I take them very seriously. The code for ● to work is perl
and was sent to them in September. It is live now here.
Of course it is an anonymous bbs.
The leak is still being investigated. The anonymous responsible for it
will eventually be caught.
All requirements the UNEI sent me, have been met. It would be very nice
if they would turn ● back on, but I doubt that they will.
It is just a shouting match talking with them. There is no interest
in finding a solution, and I am not part of 2ch, they have told me that
pointedly many times. So we can just watch and see what they do next.
It is like watching a train wreck to me. It is so shocking and horrible,
but I can't look away.
862xerxes.maido3.net@Apparently admin ★:2013/11/05(火) 22:09:17.44 ID:???
Good night
863名無し編集部員:2013/11/05(火) 22:11:54.75 ID:xe6Kvcau
>>862
Good night
英語が出来ないけどjimさんにはいろいろ感謝してます
864名無し編集部員:2013/11/05(火) 22:24:49.52 ID:zFBtoZ5F
>>861
> The code for ● to work is perl and was sent to them in September.

I am talking about the server written in Haskell.
Don't try to evade the issue here. You still haven't met the requirements.
You know that.
865名無し編集部員:2013/11/05(火) 22:26:50.40 ID:zFBtoZ5F
なんかJimも超いい加減だなあ。確信犯なんだろうけど。
866名無し編集部員:2013/11/05(火) 22:34:38.72 ID:YnkKc4ye
ぐない
867名無し編集部員:2013/11/05(火) 22:35:51.06 ID:VNH2qqA9
>>865
未だにRokkaの金の流れを明らかにしないし、
そもそも2chとの交渉の過程を全く公表しないあたり胡散臭すぎる。
自分の都合の悪い質問はすぐにはぐらかすしな。
868名無し編集部員:2013/11/05(火) 22:36:48.97 ID:fN++Rj+9
>>846
2ちゃんねる運営との交渉が上手くいってないことをホームページ上で言わないのは公式の発言としたくないからなのか
個人的な興味で聞いたので、言ってる意味が分からないで終わらせるつもりならそれでも構わないです
869名無し編集部員:2013/11/05(火) 22:40:57.24 ID:efDVuHA7
いつ死んでくれるの?
870xerxes.maido3.net@Apparently admin ★:2013/11/05(火) 22:41:48.59 ID:???
>>864
I am showered, and now I am really going to bed. You are missing the point.
The haskell server has nothing to do with the ● login not working on 2ch.
That is perl, and has been sent to the UNEI. They just didn't put it on.
They have ulterior motives, and don't seem to care who gets hurt while
they do what they are going to do.
Good night again. Get some sleep.