Hey!!! you NEETs, nerds, YouTube-link spammers, pedophiles, neo-Nazis, Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers, Part-Time-Preachers, Diplomats' spoiled sons, losers who can't remember Kanji characters, Big-boobs fans, Weeaboos from all over the world, learners of Japanese who are too lazy to update their Japanese blogs very often, cunning linguists and stupid fan girls of Johnny's Boys. And let's hope the Internet-addicted housewife will come back soon!
Are any native speakers here? I'd like to know as many common Christmas greetings as possible. Your originals would also be appreciated. I assume there would be differences between American and Britain and elsewhere.
>>6 "Happy Holidays" is the most common greeting in USA besides "Merry Christmas", but it is a very 'safe' sort of greeting used by advertisers and people who don't really know each other well enough to know each other's religion.
Less common, but more interesting: "Yuletide Greetings" - An old-fashioned greeting that makes reference to the pagan festival called 'Yule' which preceeded Christmas. Christmas sort of absorbed Yule, so some people used to (or still) refer to Christmas as 'Yule'. Some Yule traditions got incorporated into Christmas, like the Yule Log.
I can't think of any other common greetings, but you can also pretty much just throw some words together from christmas carols to make up your own corny greeting. I'll try it - "Good tidings of joy and may peace be in your hearts" BAM, you could print that on a greeting card.
The Yule stuff was WIKIpedic knowledge, actually, I didn't know those yule details off the top of my head.
Oh, also burning a "Yule log" in a fireplace is a common Christmas tradition, but for Americans without fireplaces, there is usually a TV station that plays nothing but a video loop of a burning fireplace, all Christmas day long. It's actually the best show on TV all year.
I don't know anything about Mithra, but googling it gives me references to Zoroastrianism, from the middle east, so I doubt they are related. Yule was a tradition of Germanic paganism (from northwest Europe). They apparently still follow some Yule traditions in Sweden/Norway/Finland. (but probably not the old traditions of spraying blood from animal sacrifices)
Decorating Christmas trees must have come from that German tradition, I presume.
From what I know Mithra used to be celebrated in the Roman Empire where Christanity first started to rise.
I myself have never been to the US so don't know much about how it is celebrated over there. My knowledge about Christmas is only through TV and the Internet.
>>12 In the US? Let's see... decorate Christmas trees, listen to Christmas music, put presents under trees and fill stockings (socks filled with gifts and candy hung over fireplaces) and on Christmas morning wake up and open gifts with your family. Then probably watch a movie like It's a Wonderful Life. I guess that's fairly typical Christmas in the US. This year we didn't get a tree because it's a lot of work and you get pine needles all in the rug. But we still decorated.
Christmas is pretty much the apex of people's years here in the US. It is a magical time to forget your worries, run up large amounts of debt, and lie to children. What's not to like?
Which is correct: "Seasons Greetings" (like multiple seasons are greeting you), "Season's Greetings" (the greeting of the season) or, "Seasons' Greetings" (the greeting of multiple seasons)?
Christmas is no excuse for you to watch me... There's probably something you can find more interesting than watching me.. Why don't you try your hardest? I'm sick of you guys...
>>30 you mean Japanese blood or something? who declared that Yakuza must be Japanese blood? Korean ruled Japanese black market since Japan lost war and gov. US collected all arms in Japan. but Korean stole it from US bases. and killed Japanese with it to steal resource and land.
Today, I introduce my terrible story to you. When I saw a foreign porno website, the strange message appeared. It was warning of Security shield. I didn't know the security software(I didn't downloaded)but the software said "Your computer is under threats of virus."(Summary). I was confused and clicked "Remove". Then the message saying "Buy anti-spysoftware!" appeared. But, the anti-spysoftware's price is so expensive! I wondered why I had to pay for it, and serched for the information of it by Yahoo! JAPAN. Finally, I noticed Security shield is fake security software, namely computer virus. Oh my god...
So, I tried to remove it by system recovery and was successful miraculously. Everybody, please be careful to the matherfuckin' fake security software.
>>39 That happens all the time, especially on porn sites. It's what's called a Trojan horse. Never trust any website to tell you that you have a virus. In fact never trust anything when you're looking for porn.
>>44 because there are always koreans on 2ch. tells lie. tring cheat us. there is no honest korean on 2ch. they are ugliest people ever. and they know it actually. they think it some kind of their rights that they use japanese as slave. they are uglier than you thought. some korean wrote article with vaunting in his blog that he assisted cyber terrorism to Japan.
>>51 Well, the worst of them take jobs, traffic drugs, have several babies as soon as they hit puberty, expect everything to be in Spanish, have a macho culture that makes them want to fist fight everyone they see, glorify ignorance and violence, and hate the US and want to turn it into Mexico. That is only the bad ones, but they stand out enough to make people disdain the entire group.
>>52 Good friends with the Canadians, maybe a little jealous even. They are good people and really seem to have their act together. Horray for Canada!
i spent my all the day runninng to buy discounted cakes. but it was all sold out. i'm so depressed and burned out. i cant even walk anymore. sorry for my english.
korean in japan is more likely. Jew + Mexican in USA. they are controling media and show-biz. take control of school. there are a lot of program for korean that korean are discriminated race. but they do anti-japan political movement to destroy Japan. and crimes. drug trade. importing illegal immigrant. protecting korean criminals. there is a system to erase criminal background of korean.
recent korean events of december all arrested case.
hit and run by university student korean yakuza stole 20 millon yen from bank reentered korean was arrested because of murder of 18 years ago contraband to north korea. snatch kids. attack to japanese who did claiming to korean school. managing of sex club in prohibited area.
Today, I introduce my story of this year's Xmas to you.
During Xmas, I worked as a waiter in Japanese pub(Izakaya in Jaoanese) from 24th to 25th. Because of Xmas, there were a few customers and we were so free.
After the part-time job, I was given a Xmas gift from my father when I was home. It was a DVD, "hell freezes over" of Eagles. In trem of their songs, I know only "Hotel California". So, this is a chance to get to know more thier hit songs.
I have been bad child every year so when I saw Santa Claus I expected harsh punishment. Whenever he started groping his bag shadily I screamed and fled then horny raindeer poked me back. When Santa Claus spread his arms and scared the child to stuff a child in his bag, bad child had gone frozen. Santa Claus said he was just donating his gifts.
When I faced what he actually meant, I realized how hard it will be.
Once I was introduced a devorce addict president wanted copies saying he cares about my family's copy. He had every likable attributes but often marries person who kind of he doesn't have to care for and it makes his wives unconfortable to the extent let her try every dangerous acts. Once his detective reported a bottle of aflatoxin was missing from his wife's familiar's lab. Since then he can't eat at home. He now only expected copies from female and other than that he more and more doesn't want to care for. I will have to worry him if he starts looking for possibles in internets anonymous.
do you know namahage? its old festival in Akita. in winter. namahage visits homes that have child. to find bad kids. when they found bad kids, they would eat kids up
>>埋地 ◆eMTYZaOJDw Do you happen to be interested in Mahjong? It seems to me that you are used to writing in English. You can have a chat with native speakers if you want.
So, if you are interested in those things, please visit our chat room whenever you want.
∧ ∧ ヽ(・∀ ・)ノ < If you don't come, we'll spank you. (( ノ( )ヽ )) < >
>>68 Japan is far much smaller than US but it has diverse climates depending on where you live from Hokkaido, where you study for a few weeks to Kagoshima and Okinawa for that matter.
There is no rainy season in Hokkaido and summer there is comfortable when the rest of Japan is suffering from scorching weathers because it's the northernmost island. It's not that Hokkaido doesn't have uncomfortably hot days, though. But due to relatively comfortable summer, Hokkaido is the popular tourist destination in summer for those who want to avoid hottersummer in the rest of Japan.
Okinawa is less cold in winter than the rest of Japan and people are allowed to swim in the sea the earliest time of year among the rest of the parts of Japan.
It doesn't mean that you have rainy days everyday throughout the rainy season in Japan but, some days consecutive rainy days are common in the season. Rainy season especially and summer is more humid than say, that of California summer.
On average, throughout Japan, summer is very hot and people wear just T-shirt and still it's so hot that you want to peel your skin. This past summer was the hottest in the past 130 years. I think Climate change sure is happening. Some days in summer, it's extremely difficult to fall asleep without keeping AC turned on to cool your room at night.
In winter, you need thick jacket or coat to survive. Wearing a scarf and gloves is the norm in the middle of winter.
There are no cockroaches in Hokkaido probably because their eggs can't survie cold winter there.
>>70 Surprisingly I have heard of Namahage. I find it funny that villages elect people to go around scaring the shit out of small children and soliciting alcohol from their parents. But how much fun would it be to be the person behind the mask...
>>71 Oh, sorry. I've never played Mahjong and not interested in... I think the game is so difficult and can't play such game. But, I like Mahjong solitaire. I often play it on my computer when I'm free.
Anyway, I'll go to the website on >>69 and have a chat with native speakers until M-1 start on 6:30. (M-1 is an annual Manzai competition and today is the finals live on TV Asahi. I'm looking forward to watching the TV program.)
reminds me of a news article. that dog meat is popular with young Japanese. when i saw it, like WTF!????. in fact. most comment on there was WTF. becuase only korean eat dog meat in Japan.that was a symbolic article that korean are controlling media of Japan.
>>78 no eat. there were many samurai who do katana testing with dog. thats a reason of protection law. no japanese ate dog at that time. japanese couldn't eat 4 legs animal because of religion. and you are korean.
>>80 there are some people who eat snake. but nobody says that snake is japanese food. no japanese ate dog meat at edo period. i dont care minority. korean immigrants are always coming to japan since japan exists.
??? what are you talking about??? japan has handreds of years history for whale meat. its older than edo priod. it was most valuable sea food for japanese tennno or shogun often ate whale as a present of people.
Thanks to you guys, we could play Mahjong and have a chat. We are looking forward to seeing you guys again.
You can leave messages whenever you want even if no body is there. Please feel free to visit "Chat in English thread Mahjong Chat Room". You are not interested in Mahjong thing? It's ok. You are not good at writing in English? It's ok. You are far better than me.
>>97 Don't eat Neko-sama! He provides us with an important service: telling us when each day passes because NEETs cannot see outside from their basements.
This whaling discussion brings up a good point. I have heard it to be one of the biggest controversies about Japan (from foreign countries), and many countries think poorly of Japan for its ruthless whaling practice.
>>76 cookingwithdog is the username of the youtube person who uploads video clip of a Japanese lady cooking Japanese food. A dog named Francis sits next to the stove and waits for the lady to offer him a taste of whatever she is cooking at the time.
To answer your question, no , I have never eaten a dog and I don't intend to ever. How you could make such an insane assumption is beyond me.
>>98 This cat's wakeup and sleep pattern is a total mess and nobody can use his pattern to know when a day starts and ends. Nobody but NEET can afford his daily wakeup and sleep pattern.
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You look on me as a cat... How very interested you guys are in me... You guys are watching me like always. Stop that pleasee... I'm just an ordinary person, not so special. I have to repeat myself!
One day Jesus and Moses were on the golf course and decided to have a contest over who can make the most outstanding shot. Moses goes first. He settles up for the shot and hammers it straight for the green. Unfortunately, the ball falls into a water hazard. Undaunted, Moses raises his arms to the sky, and the water parts where the ball dropped in. The ball rolls out of the water and onto dry land, only a foot away from the hole. Jesus looks at Moses and says, "Hey Moses, that was a pretty good shot. Now let me see what I can do." Jesus settles up for his shot and sends the ball screaming towards the green. Unfortunately, Jesus has the same luck as Moses did. The ball heads straight for the water hazard. Jesus holds out one hand and, instead of dropping into the water, the ball bounces on top of the water and rolls onto dry land only 3 inches from the hole. Moses says, "Wow, that was an incredible shot!" No sooner did Moses say this, than the skies grew dark. The wind started up, lightning and thunder crackled through the sky. Suddenly a ball falls from the heavens into the same water hazard where Jesus and Moses had hit theirs. A fish swims up and swallows the ball. An eagle swoops down, grabs the fish in his talons, and heads for the now darkened sky. Lightning strikes the eagle and he drops the fish onto the green. The fish opens his mouth, the ball rolls out and drops into the hole. Moses turns to Jesus and says, "Man! I hate it when your Dad plays!!"
thank you all for replying to me even if a girl like haruhi didn't exist but what about azunyan? to be honest, my fa fa fa fa favorite character is azunyan i love her to death, man :)
I heard from the handsome Japanese gentleman that he will be visiting the UK soon. I still have no idea whether he is attached or not. I think I will invite him out for coffee.
>>137 cockroach!!!!????? what the fuck!!!!???????? people say she is the cutest creature in the world she is my hope, she is my dream, she is my wife if you watched k-on wholes episodes you would be hooked on her for sure
1) If two people are talking about Chrsitmas after Christmas day, and one asked the other, "Did you have a nice tree?" what does he mean?
Does he mean, A "Did you manage to find a tree (in the wild/at store) that's suitable for Christmas tree? B "Did you decorete Christmas tree very well to make it look good?" C None of the above. In this case would you explain what he meant?
2)Is it still common to go and find a tree in the wild to use it as a Christmas tree? If you live in an urban area, you buy it at store? If Christmas tree is sold in a store, is it a live tree or plastic tree?
>>143 1) C He is asking if your tree was acceptable and looked appealing to you.
2) In some places in America (mostly where there is snow), they chop down their own tree. However it is more likely to buy a plastic tree - especially if you live in suburb areas. I have always bought a plastic tree, but I don't live in America. We don't have 'pine' trees in Australia.
>He is asking if your tree was acceptable and looked appealing to you.
Does this mean after it was decorated? or before decorated? I mean, if "before decorated," did he ask whether the shape and size of the tree is suitable as a Christmas tree? Do you think "he" is talking about plastic or live tree?
2)Thanks. I see. and Snata wears T-shirt and sometimes on a surf board down under!
>>143 We have always bought live trees from a place that sells trees. In the US that's not uncommon to have people who chop down trees and sell them in on outdoors area, like along a sidewalk in a city. But plastic trees are not at all uncommon either, and are much cheaper and easier (they don't shed pine needles). People who live in very rural areas near pine trees sometimes chop down their own. As for the question I agree with >>144. But isn't that just both A and B?
>>145 Oh, and probably after decoration. If he knows you have a plastic tree then he would only refer to the decoration, as the tree doesn't change. He could be talking about either, but it would make more sense to ask about a live one, wouldn't it?
>Does this mean after it was decorated, or before it was decorated?
It is more likely (just from common conversation) that he is asking after it was decorated, if he were to be asking about how it before it was decorated, he might have asked "Did you get a nice, fresh, tree?" for example. However, the question can also imply both things, though it is unlikely in common conversation.
>Do you think "he" is talking about a plastic or a living tree? He is not talking about either one - the terms adjective terms 'living', 'plastic' or 'real' would have to be in the question. He is simply asking if you liked your tree that you had chosen for Christmas, regardless of whether it is plastic or real.
2) Santa has a surf board? I did not know about this...
>>146-148 Thank you for your detailed answers, both of you! I got a lot more clear picture.
Well, it's summer Christmas in Australia and I think I have seen a footage where Santa is surfing.
>>149 Anybody can access to 2ch including this thread, no matter if you're foreginers or Japanese. Actually lots of native speakers of English and people from overseas post in this thread.
But I know 2ch banned or has banned IP addresses from overseas. But that's not because you are a foregner but some IP addresses of overseas are used for attacking 2chan's servers so 2ch took/has taken preventive measures for that.
>>156 Sure thing. There are no borders in the world of Internet and no discrimination by 2ch for that matter. Some people who have the same ISP as the one used for attacks could be involved with 2ch's ban.
>>159 It depends on borads and threads in 2ch, but 2ch isn't the best place to read and learn Japanese, though, because lots of 2ch jargon, omission, wrong conversion to kanji characters. (like 4chan has "moar" and such wrong spelling and jargons.)
Welcome to 2ch オーストラリア人. You should call yourself that like イギリス人 does. I'm American and have been here since at least #147. Igirisujin-san has been here even longer. Though, haven't seen him recently. Hopefully because of the Russian girl.
I'm only on episode 10 but so far I like Mio and Azunyan, but they are similar, aren't they? Although I think it's funny that Mugi likes seeing 少女愛 action.
>>173 オーストラリア人 literally means "Australian". But it follows イギリス人さん. Don't you remember when Mugi would space out whenever she saw two girls with each other?
>>177 She said something along the lines of, ただ「女の子と押していいな」って 本人たちがよければ、いいんじゃないでしょうか in episode 5. Which means, "I was just thinking that girl-on-girl action is kinda nice. As long as they're true to themselves, right?"
Well, it is nonsense to say "animes are just pictures.". It is natural. Are they just pictures? Yes, of course. Everyone knows. It is just the same as replying "this is just a collection of ink." when one of your friends shows you a picture of his girl friend. Moreover, it is the same as, pointing to his lover, saying "she is just a lump of protein." You are not wrong. Pictures are collections of ink. Humans are lumps of protein. But, so what? Do you say it is wrong to sympathise with ink, it is strange to fall in love with protein? I think it is too silly. Too absurd. Saying "animes are just pictures." is just the same as these rubbish. Whom you fall in love with is a girl as personality and exisitence. Physical structure does not matter at all. Can't you understand such simple logic?
>>202 Wow. Never heard that logic before. That's... a very good point.
Oosutorariajin-san (that's what I'll call you), sorry for forgetting but yes the Blu-ray version of K-on is available. I have the 1080p ripped subbed version with the extra episodes and specials (of which there are 9). 1080p looks amazing :)
>>204 That image, on my 18.5 inch (47cm) laptop screen with Mona font at 16pt is 8.6cm in length. The average length of a Japanese male is 13.0cm. How unfortunate.
>>134 Do you mean his ancestors might be from a ruling family? I did look up his surname and such a family does exist. However I don't think he is rich.
>>135 What do you mean? Do you think I am inviting him out only because he is Japanese? That is absurd.
Which language is better: German or Italian? >>241 Gaia Online is full of inadequate people, everyone from 4chan's /a/ and /jp/ boards despises Gaia. However, there are lots of dumb kids on 4chan too. 4chan is more about posting "funny pictures" and trolling, it is a rare thing to see serious discussion there.
Do you think some fortish men/women are around in 4chan?
In case of 2ch, there are lots of people in their 30's 40's. Actually people in these age brackets are the main pillar of 2ch. 20's and teens would prefer SNS more than 2ch, I guess.
>>246 Discussion with reasonable arguments. >>248 Most of 4chan visitors are teenagers, people about 20 years old and shut-ins. The same thing can be said of all other imageboards I visit. Few of those also visit SNS and make threads like "how should I answer to this message?".
>>249 >"how should I answer to this message?". How is this question supposed to mean?
You guys in US and Europe and Australia and NZ use Facebook, using your real name quite a lot right? I think the life of shut-ins in the countries is harder than that of shut-ins in Japan because they feel islated both in real life and on Internet. If you don't have friends in real life, you can't enjoy Facebook where how many friends you have doesn matter to enjoy the SNS to the full.
In case of Japan, in Mixi, the largest SNS in Japan, people doesn't use real name much so life in Mixi doesn't necessarily refelct how good your real life is, so Mixi is far lot shut-ins friendly SNS.
2ch is totally anonyumous so it is more shut-ins friendly than Mixi.
I guess most of those who stick to this thread are English Otakus(learning English on the desk at home, not having much hands-on experiences). So am I orz.
Hello, I introduce my story of yesterday. In my workplace I work as a part-time waiter, I made a drunk customer so angry. Speaking of the detail, he asked me if the order of him was received for the staffs in kitchen. And then I told to him "Did you check by using this touchpanel(Our sys- tem of order is by touchpanel)?" And I left there, but, after a little time, he called me and said "Hey, you, do you wanna make me knock you!?" in anger. I didn't know why he did at first but apologized to him not to make the troble bigger. But, he was still getting angry. Then our manager came and asked him why he was getting angry. He told to him "he(me) said such a saucy thing to me!". Our manager apologized to him and the customer seeming like his friends around managed to calm him. After the trouble, our manager called me to the kitchen and asked me "what did you say to him and do you knowwhy he was getting so angry? I was very confused at his question, and I answered timidly."Ah..., I don't know at all..." And then he scold away at me about 50minutes... While he was scolding away at me, my mind was so heavy and my eyesight was full of violet (I don't know the reason. it was by secreting adrenaline?)Sigh, how loopy I am! So, I'm so blue now... But, please don't worry. I'll be alright. I know everybody always make some mistake everyday. So, it's not unusual. So, see you. Today, I'm gonna sleep tight.
>>269 Yes, I am a native english speaker. I will try to be more articulate this time. The word "index" when used as a verb, means "to make an index". As in: "I index, you index, he/she indexes....".
HOWEVER, I am pretty sure that using that in the context of stock markets is inappropriate. I don't really have anything to back that up, other than that it sounds awkward. It would say "I am making a stock index." rather than use a specific verb.
O lord, he said, Japanese women, real women, they have not forgotten, bowing and smiling closing the wounds men have made; but American women will kill you like they tear a lampshade, American women care less than a dime, they’ve gotten derailed, they’re too nervous to make good: always scowling, belly-aching, disillusioned, overwrought; but oh lord, say, the Japanese women: there was this one, I came home and the door was locked and when I broke in she broke out the bread knife and chased me under the bed and her sister came and they kept me under that bed for two days, and when I came out, at last, she didn’t mention attorneys, just said, you will never wrong me again, and I didn’t; but she died on me, and dying, said, you can wrong me now, and I did,
but you know, I felt worse then than when she was living; there was no voice, no knife, nothing but little Japanese prints on the wall, all those tiny people sitting by red rivers with flying green birds, and I took them down and put them face down in a drawer with my shirts, and it was the first time I realized that she was dead, even though I buried her; and some day I’ll take them all out again, all the tan-faced little people sitting happily by their bridges and huts and mountains— but not right now, not just yet.
>>276 Ah, you dropped the bomb again. I'd love to play in about 4 hours when i'm out of work. I suppose I could play here since there's nobody in the office, but I don't think flash works on these machines. Besides, I shouldn't be so delinquent in my first month of work. Plus, it's a Japanese company so 2ch would be mad at me and call me a korean saboteur.
>>202 In case you care, there was a pretty good discussion of your comment on 4chan's /a/ the other day. Unfortunately, the archives have been dysfunctional since the latest DDoS attack, but rest assured that it was well received.
That's no excuse. No matter how beautiful one person is, others shouldn't watch the person. You guys are going overboard. You don't have the right to scare me by continuously watching me.
Don't look at me like that! You may have been thinking of me all along, but I don't take our relationship even casually, let alone seriously. So quit giving me a fawning look! I'd never answer your expectations that are set too high!! Stop watching me. Please...
>>320 Usually, "Merry Christmas" is used a few days before Christmas (generally only if you won't see the person again on Christmas), but most commonly is said on Christmas Day.
I don't watch you because you are beautiful; I watch you because you are ugly. Not ugly physically, but ugly in your soul. You will die alone so you should take the attention that you get.
Unfortunately, no, this doesn't seem like a good year ahead to me.. You know, my stalkers still do exist, and they messaged me in public like they would never stop watching me... I'm scared... I don't know why you guys are so infatuated with me, but whatever the reason, you should stop watching me right now.
>>339 Why don't you file a report to the police? The Japanese police will help you soon. The arrest rate for the crime of stalkers is pretty high in Japan. You know, Japan retains its ranking as the world's most peaceful countries.
I read a weekly magazine and there was an article about the japanese lawyer, Ishizumi who converted to judaism and became jew. He has both Japanese and American lawyer licenses.
He studied about East Asia at Harvard University and found out the majority of students were jews. He gradually became aware of how jews, only 2% of overall population were influential, academically and economically in the U.S. He started to respect jewish culture and decided to become jew.
He said he followed a jewish rabbi for a few years and studied hard. He passed the last exam which he said was harder than Japanese bar exam.
Japanese bar exam was once called the hardest examination and it's not unusual that passing it takes more than a decade. He graduated from one of the most prestigious universities in Japan, Kyoto University and passed both Japanese bar exam and bureaucrat exam. Then he worked at Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry , the most prestigious ministry for three years. Working at the prestigious Ministries was once the path for the best elite in Japan. The exam to become jew was the hardest exam in his life.
It's a surprise to burden foreigner candidates with such tremendous task. Is the case rare case or usual case abroads?
I guess women can be jew more easily than men. A woman who married with a jew easily becomes jew, right? For example, actress Kate Capshaw married with Spielberg and converted to Judaism.
And how about American men? I don't think white Americans have to study as far as Ishizumi did. There is no exception?
Ishizumi is a desdendant from daimyo(warlord) class and his ancestors searved as teamaster for Tokugawa Shogunate. Ishizumi is no way korean. I happened to know he graduated from Kyoto University at top...
prank call is a popular sport in western countries But japs really love to critisize so if we record prank call video and post it on the internet, I'm sure there will be bunch of hate comments, and they just critisize .
Its really interesting that it is permitted and popular amusement there,
I will work hard to be able to make a prank call in english someday.
Prank call is a popular sport in western countries On the other hand, japs really love to critisize people who aren't seems polite, so if you record prank call video and post it on the internet, I'm sure there will be bunch of hate comments, and they just critisize you.
Its really interesting that it is accepted and popular amusement there,
I will work hard to be able to make a prank call in english someday.
Japan doesnt have any relation with jew. but Ishizumi strongly represents how to discriminate jew people. for example. he introduced word "Kike" in his book and blog. he says there are many many discrimination to them. in another words. he says Japanese should discriminate jews. I got his mission correctly. didn't I?
>>351 I didn't watched it all the way through but peeked the show for 5 minutes or so in total. Watching it, I thought about you, thinking, if you were in Japan you'd watch it. Never thought it could be viewed on line. Maybe somebody must have live-streamed it online.
>>378 The saddest truth is, the regular posters here in this thread consist of the counterpart of those wapanese fucks, and in addition, they're 10347236823 times creepier than ever.
Is that supposed to be funny? You are trying to trap me by confusing me. However, I hereby clearly say your doing will fail no matter what. You should stop watching me; the only thing you need to do this year.
>>389 Well, maybe if you care more about what people whom you see perhaps the first and the last time will think about you than about what you can see yourself...
Are you implying that you want to swim into my ocean? NO! I definitely won't let you! How many times do I have to tell you you should stop watching me? Learn to grow up!!
http://www.blogtv.com/people/SupiiGammel these boys are good as well though I don't know German language at all , Recently, I watch german boys live shows i think they're hot
so, K-On season 1 is airing in America? is it dubbed? what about the songs? season 1 was too 4-koma like and was kinda boring. seaason 2 was boring too. so all in all, it was a boring show. Fuck K-On and Korea and China. Fuck Harry Potter too.
>>431 I only recall that it was violent but the highlight was Clare kissing young Raki, who was much younger than her. He looked promising because he was frustrated with his helplessness.
Don't even try to watch me... I'm scared already. Why should I keep saying this to you guys? Because you guys can't seem to learn.. Just quit it already. Please...
Please stop watching me.... I'm not so special you guys have to pay attention to.. You guys want to know everything I do, but I'm not worth it, really. So please stop it..
>>452 I think you need love and affection. If you can't get it, you should give some love and affection. That may cure your fear of being watched by a duck.
"Hello! Hello! Karl is freakin awesome!! I want to kidnap him and keep him forever! jk thats creepy. i just want to meet him and say "HELLO!! HELLO!!"" wwww
Shibuya, Tokyo, described as a "futuristic Times Square" by The New York Times.[13] Of Japan's influence on the genre, William Gibson said, "Modern Japan simply was cyberpunk."[14] Cyberpunk is often set in urbanized, artificial landscapes, and "city lights, receding" was used by Gibson as one of the genre's first metaphors for cyberspace.[15]
>>465 I read the article following the link. The article is about a TV show broadcasted on Jan. 3rd. "YOU," "Kyon2" and "Matsuko Delux" talked about various topics ranging from the days when "Kyon2" was a young idol singer to their favorite men's types.
"YOU" said in the show that she loves a physically big and big hearted man. (I don't think "big" in her words includes the nuance of beign very fat. Maybe "great build" can be the best translation. Her type is a "tall and great build and big-hearted man." )
Responding to "YOU"'s favorite type of man, "Kyon2" said that "my boyfriends in the past are thin and small."
The article reads "Come to think of it, her ex-husband and men who were rumored to be her boyfriends in the past are almost all small build. She said that she's kind of a person who can't get off to a fresh start regarding relationship after breakup, meaning even after she breaks up with a man, she tends to give him a call late at night under the influence of drink.
she said that because she herself doesn't like such a behavior/habit of hers, she makes it a rule to delete her ex-boyfriend's phone number from her cell phone's contact list right after she breaks up with him.
During three days off of this new year, I ate too much Osechi dishes, eventually, gained weght about 3-4kg. Regretfully, I have to restrict the food intake for health.
>>468 Do you have anyone who would be in trouble if you damage your health by gaining weight? If not, do eat as much as you like. Life is short in the first place. Don't give a shit if you drop dead earlier than you are supposed to be.
By small built and thin he means Kamenashi of course. That is sooo mean of you KyonKyon! By "former skinny boyfriend" it means they are not together anymore. Despite the sighting rumours of the couple in Hayama.
No wonder poor Kame-chan looks so upset and works out in the gym. He has put on weight, he may be small built but he gives me total cardiac arrest with those moves
>>472 I translate this 「私の歴代の彼氏は、細くて小さい男。」 to " "my boyfriends in the past are thin and small."
The hard part to translate which can cause mistranslation is 歴代の彼氏, which I translated to "my boyfriends in the past." But the expression can mean "boyfriends one has gone out with 'including one's current boyfriend,'" so it can mean they are still together.
Also, even if they broke up akready, Kamenashi is just one of small build ex boyfriends because 歴代の彼氏 means boyfriends you have gone out with so far from, say middle school days to today.
>>475-480 Thanks to everyone who made translation comments on the article.
So in that article she might still be referring to her current boyfriend, who might still be Kame-chan... hmm.... From your discussion what I understand is she is mocking the men in her life, saying they are weak physically and mentally. Is that the case? She sounds like a really tough woman. Although it is mean to say such things to fragile people with body-image complexes, I still like her. Maybe she reflects her own complexes on her partners. She is petite after all.
>>474 No no no, I am "Kame Girl" , not KGKGKG, who is a self declared ninja on youtube.
Tomorrow is the day holding the ceremony for all 20years people in Japan.(We call it "Seijinsiki"). But, I don't wanna go to there though I'm 20. Because it's very troublesome to buy a suit for such boring ceremony. I might as well stay home as go to there.
What are you talking about? You want me to go where? Besides, you guys are responsible for this. Don't make your responsibility mine. You have to leave me! Watch me no more!
there is one more ceremony about age in Japan. people become adult after seijinsiki. hichigosan. 七五三 means 7 5 .3. child become human after hichigosan. 5 3 is option. 7 is important. people become human child after 7 years old in Shinto. before that. children are not human being. in another words. you can kill them. or god might rid them . especially. when parents found out child's handicap.
>>484-485 Umm..., but, my seniors who work with me as a part-time worker in my workplace told me "Speech of our mayor in the time is boring to us" yesterday. I thought "I might as well stay home as go to there and listen to such mother- fuckin' speech" then. I think listening to long and boring speech at there is just wasting time. As you know, time is money. So, I use my time anyway I want.
Stay home, you say? No, that's not what I'm asking for. All I ask is for you to not watch me. You should know how very much you reduce me to tears. I'm fired out because of you guys.. You guys put me in a sitch where I need to strain my nerves to check if you guys keep watching me... Please stop draining my energy... I'm wholly a victim...
>>488 does your time at home create more value than seeing your friends at the ceremony? the speech is surely boring.but I enjoyed talking with friends during the speech
>>488 The point is that you as a group gather on that day, not the boring speech. Just watch other people during the speech. You must buy or borrow a suit and attend the ceremony. You need to have a suit handy in any case. You need to make an effort to meet other 20 year olds. It is for your own good. Now go and start preparing yourself please.
>>481 >From your discussion what I understand is she is mocking the men in her life, saying they are weak physically and mentally. Is that the case?
I didn't watch the TV show so I can't judge from her facial expression and her tone of voice when she said the comment to know what she really meant. All I can do is to judge from the article. I didn't get an impression that she was mocking her boyfriends (and current boyfireind if she has one now) just by reading the article. I thinkg that she's just saying the fact about her boyfriends's physical character.
I'd say no women want to go out with a man who they mock in the first place. It could happen that they mock their ex-boyfriends if they were treated really bad by their ex boyfriends, though.
Maby subconsciously Kyon2 is attracted to small build men and has gone out with men with such physical characteristics.
What if I say no to you guys? As I've been saying, it really is gross to have some people following me around. You should know better than to watch amd bother me...
I watched roruchan's new video about China, and it looks like he is finally enlightened. A few years ago he was saying optimistic things about China, but now he is totally disgusted with their deeds.
I wonder how many people from overseas know what the left object and the one between cats. Guys, studying Japanese is good but don't forget to learn cultural aspects of Japan other than pop culture thingies like anime and J-pop.
>>516 The object on the left looks like three old-fashioned frigates sailing towards the viewer. The middle object looks like a barbecue or a sacrificial altar (sɐbǝɯo ɹood ǝsoɥʇ).
I don't watch TV shows anymore. except V(US drama) because there are full of koreans since DPJ got power. maybe korean stopped using Japanese talented people. when I watch the TV show, I see the reptiles wear human skin in every single TV show.
they speak fluent japanese. they use japanese name. but their faces are korean. yeah. looks like japanese face tho. korean. I don't have any problem when they appear as korean. but when they say "as a japanese". especialyl when they said "japanese are wrong" after that. I feel anger. I am always fucked up by TV show.
do you know? there is a prize for music in japan.レコード大賞 BIGBANG(korean group) won at foreign music category. 少女時代(japanese-korean group) won at japanese category. plz someone stop this shit. they don't have any talent. its cheated obviously.
>>492 and >>496 On the day, I was sleeping tight even the ceremony started on 10:30am. But, I don't feel regret at all. Oh, here the story related to the ceremony is. In my workplace I work as a part-time worker in, my male senior asked me if I went to there. And then I answered to his question, "No, I didn't go, but was sleeping tight". He replied "Really? I guess you'll be sorry". But, as you can see the sentense above, I don't feel regret at all.
Thanks for your information! I tried the omegle, it seemed to be good at first but the moment I typed Im Japanese, the stranger cut the chat off with me. I want to cry.
Regarding the middle object, you two are not too far away from the answer. It's two "mochi" or rice cakes being cooked to eat.(No aliens! haha) Yes as you imagined its smoke above. It's rare these days to use charcoal and metal net. Rice cake can be cooked in toaster or microwave oven.
>>528 Nobody worth speaking to uses Omegle, I live in America and the only people I know that use it are looking to mess with strangers, not actually have conversations with them.
>>533 I see. By the way, the first one is a toaster oven, and the second is a regular toaster. There is a sushi restaurant here that has strawberry ice cream mochi. It's so delicious I could die.
>>523 When I go back to japan for summer, I usually use yahoo wifi which is available at every MacDonald's and many other places. It's not free but just about 800 yen per month in total, and coffee at MacDonald's is only 100 yen (I usually just order coffee).
>>539 unless i use wifi there, i won't go there either. but if you like coffee, small one is just 100 yen, and refill is free though refill is not on the menu.
Today it snowed so much that we did not have classes. But it was only 14" (2/3 metre or so?). I could go to classes in that. But I was pretty happy sleeping until 5 pm.
Kim Ichon is a man who has gone in and out the company Samsung as a member of special project team and he has talked about this torture project to people at Samsung about accessing human's brain, about experiment dogs and so on for satisfying himself. And he has wanked to watch inside brain of 30000 victims from S.Korea as like he has wanked at the main scene of this crisis Chongryon in Japan for watching inside brain of me. They've said that? this is the reason why there are more women victims that men's victims. Investigate it. Call Samsung right now.
Kim Myonghi has also tortured a S>Korean women for wanking for a month alone at the scene of this crisis in S.Korea, and finally? he has murdered her by stopping her breathe compulsory for wanking at there Just investigate it.
The president of China Hu Jintao has been likely to watch the scene of sexal scene of me and Shoichi Nakagwa before he has been conspired with felons to murder Shoichi Nakagawa and before he has watched the moment of murder Shoichi Nakagawa from his home with his family it seems. . Because the president of China Hu Jintao has accessed to watch at the scene of that sexual scene of me and Shoichi Nakagawa and any other 30000 victims from S.Korea.. It's the fact. Just investigate it.
For a while the president of China Hu Jintao has enjoyed to watch sexal scene of Shoichi Nakagawa with his family Liu Yongqing and Hu Haifeng and Hu Hsiao-Hwa for pissing one of Japanese Shoichi Nakagwa off before they've watched the moment of the murder Shoichi Nakagawa by one PC as only 1 PC setteled in his home.
Criminals have confessed and now 0:14,14,Jan,2011 have been confessing that one of felons Tochizawa(栃沢) who has belonging to (who has gone in and out and has been related with the company named "Kobunsha" (光文社 Kobunsha) as a journalist of magazine named Josei Jishin(女性自身) what is a Japanese publisher of literature, some manga and women's magazine and the company named BRANDING,INC as he has been writing blog of a Japanese talent named Tetsurou Degawa) has replaced IC tip of my mobile phone for hacking my mobile phone while felons Tochizawa and Takaomi Amagaya(天ヶ谷貴臣) who has been belonging to the company Watanabe Entertainment Co., Ltd. (株式会社ワタナベ エンターテインメント, Kabushiki-gaisha Watanabe Entaateinmento) (is a major Japanese entertainment conglomerate and a member of the Watanabe Production Group.) and kentarou Kasama(笠間健太郎) who has been belonging to one of the largest advertising agency brands named "Dentsu"(電通) and people from mass communication from "FUJI TV"(フジテレビ) and several felons ware settling me on for torturing me of their nasty system of this torture by injecting me material.
>>560 because English is not so fun English consist of fewer words than japanese,only alphabets texts is not easy reading,it like hiragana only jpapanese English can not varier ordinary talks to poem like story than japanese
If you ask me, Japanese is 10 times funner You know, when you say "I", we have many ways to say it watashiwa, bokuwa, washiwa, orewa, watakushiwa, ataiwa etc... Besides we can change the part of the end watashi wa kore ga suki desu→watashi wa kore ga suki dattebayo That explains why anime has a wide variety of characters
I for you, >>567 and >>570. Learning English(of course, other foreign languages too) increases my vocabulary and raises myself to be a bigshot in this world for the future. Oh, too push myself...
About the cases of rapes and murders of the president of China Hu Jintao there is a person as one of felons named Son Tehaji named by themselves who has attended on Ai Iijima and who has been ordered to murder Ai Iijima by the president of China Hu Jintao. And Son Tehaji named by themselves has been also setteled on this system of torture and there is a critical proof of that, even there are proofs of that exchanges of mailing about coversations of the case of murder Ai Iijima and exchanges between the president of China Hu Jintao and Ai Iijima of account of bank of chogin. And there is a person who has murdered a S.Korean woman who had been raped by the predientf of China Hu Jintao and had been murdered by him ordered by the president of China Hu Jintao and the president of S.Korea Lee Myung-Bak. And now 23:09,14,Jan,2011 the president of China Hu Jintao with Chinese Communist Party and the S.Korean project team and president of S.Korea Lee Myung-bak with S.Korean government and the leader of N.Korea Kim Jong-il and his son Kim Jong-un with the Workers' Party of Korea and Chongryon in Japan and Mindan in Japan have been trying to murder me while all of them have been threating me, and attempting to murder me, and have been falling me serious tricks for punish me with my family, and have been committing several kinds of crimes as serious torture and serious Witch-Hunting. To the world SOS.
>>564 OMG you said reason I stock for objection So I say add reason ,chinese character has some reason that we can create new them, that's fun . Why I said few words text is hard for reading that words has pattern what scene should use them , so we saw them quickly expect text's means . >>566 Are you japanese? if you say yes , you see No chinese words text japanese is very hard reading. English is simple so at least communication is fits , but that's all. America move situation to english spread around world , there are no reason that English is Fun .
Finally I predict English will be invaded by Chinese character.
>>575 How often do you create new kanji though? I feel like the ones used are the ones that already exist. Mainly because computers can only have a certain number of them available. From what I have read, it seems that China makes new hanzi more than the Japanese do.
>>575 You might be amazed how fast native english speakers with higher education can read english texts. Though english just have small number of different characters, there seems to be a way to read it fast and it's not like reading japanese all written in Hiragana.
By the way, superiority of a language, even if it can be objectively defined, does not imply that language should be the lingua franca. There are lot of other factors which are way more important such as accumulation of scholarly work in that language and easiness for learning for non-native speakers. English is one of the best in these two criteria, though the latter might not be true for most Asian people.
Anglais est une langue vulgaire. "Anglaiser", ce mot d'origine français signifie "rape anally" en anglais. Je ne veux pas entendre quelque chose de puant !!!
>>557 English? Easy? I don't know about that. Let's take French. Although there are more conjugation forms and genders, the pronunciation is more regular and so are the conjugations. As well, the vocabulary is much more concise. I'd say in terms of ease of learning, French is better than English. And there are many languages that are even easier than French (one being Esperanto).
Japanese, if it were written solely in kana, would be very easy to learn. However, the kanji easily double its difficulty. But there's something about kanji that makes Japanese so unique, and in some ways, useful, even if they're hard to learn.
>>580 I guess you are pointing me (>>577), so I am answering this.
I don't know why people in the US is so obsessed with your language. I didn't say english is boring or learning it is a piece of cake. What I meant was relative cost of learning for non-natives is not high especially for many people who speak european languages.
Kanji is an essential part of Japanese. Complicated japanese characters are like hard-to-spell, never-seen-in-daily-life words in english. English without them must be easier, but it's not the same language anymore. We might live without them, but our world will be more limited.
As a Japanese, I have things what I wanna tell you. Indeed, learning Japanese, especially kanji, is so hard for all foreigners. But, I'd suggest that all Japanese had hard times to learn it when they were children too. Every Japanese has made mistakes about it like misreading, miswritting, misusing and that still goes on. So, never mind if you're confused with it and about to throw away all Japanese textbooks. Because I am often confused with it too.
>>575 >Finally I predict English will be invaded by Chinese character. I don't like the sound of that! Being invaded by Chinese characters could only result in mutual destruction. But if that's what they want.... Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.
That lame pun aside, whenever we need to up the difficult of english we just throw in some Latin. It's how you keep the vulgar commoners out of Law. Hehe.
>>584 As to referring "cost" I meant mostly the time you need to learn that language. Language study is by all means time consuming, but, relatively speaking, I don't think studying english is that bad. In particular, because of the closeness of syntax, the speed of learning english for french or german speakers (and vice versa) is much faster than for japanese speakers. I took german course with native english speakers (taught in english) and I was surprised how easy for them to grab the main points of sentences.
Anyway, I don't think further discussion about "easiness" and "costs" of studying specific language is fruitful. I like studying language and communicating with people in any language. I am not one of people on this thread expressing hatred toward english or US. If you felt offended my posts due to my poor writing, sorry about that. I didn't mean it.
>>587 Ah, on that I agree. I think the real difficulty of English is being able to speak it very fluently. There's such a massive vocabulary and that vocabulary changes every day.
On a similar note, a ton of Chinese students take Japanese classes here, so about half my class is Chinese. They're no better at learning the words than I am, but when it comes to kanji I submit defeat.
The warming of earths climate is inversely correlated with the number of pirates in the world. As the number of pirates decrease, the globe gets hotter. Coincidence?
>>602 If it is inversely correlated with your age, then the older you get, then the temperature decreases. Then the only way to stop global warming is to live as long as possible.
>>615 How about kawaii dicks? Mine must be much more kawaii than yours or Mr. nanashi's. It's only 15.3 cm long...orz. But... as a Japanese, not short, I hope.
616 I've never heard of the word like "kawaii dicks" Btw 15.3? How did you know that? You measured yours!? Hahaha you hilarious man!! As you said that size is average for japanese Incidentally my rocket is much bigger
Just in case you are waiting to see a picture writing of my dick, I am not going to upload anything...it was only a joke so you may go to sleep at your normal bedtime.
Incidentally, it is a fact that my dick is kawaii(little).
You guys can't seem to stop watching me no matter what... Why are you doing this to me? I'm sick of it. Please don't do it any more. I'm quite scared. I'm nothing but an ordinary person like your neighbors. I'm not worth your attention. So please don't look at me...
>>622 that's a tax you have to pay when you are a hot girl. if you want to avoid that, uh... i don't know. maybe conversion to a muslim and wearing that wired hood is one of solutions.
>>626 That phrase "How do you think of" is the wrong way to express You meant "What do you think of", right? Anyway, Japanese large size is the middle size in America especially drinking stuff
>>626 Like 627 wrote, the size is obviously different. Also in the States you can drink stuff that you don't have in Japanese fast food shops such as Dr. Pepper. But the food itself basically tastes the same. A&W is the best cause you can get some nice root beer.
I want to ask you guys what I've always been wandering. What do you think of having English phrases in Japanese pop songs? A lot of my American friends said it's quit awkward to hear Japanese songs with English phrases. They said that the bad pronunciation makes it worse. I remember there was a Thai song that had some Japanese phrases in it and indeed it sounded very unnatural and awkward that I couldn't stop laughing. The pronunciation was weird and the grammar was wrong. It sounded like an illiterate moron. Perhaps it sounds in the exact same way when an American listens to J-pop.
>>631 As an American, I don't mind it. I've heard Mexicans butcherer my precious English far more than that. The pronounceable is usually passable, if heavily accentuated. The words don't always make sense in the context of the other words though.
>>632,633 Thanks for your opinions. I like to ask you two where are you guys from. Because I found that most of the people who think it's awkward are from the East Coast or the South.
>>631 I think it takes getting used to. Now it seems normal. What is weird though is when people in anime try to speak English (especially if the character is American or British) and the accent is extremely strong. For example, when America and England in Axis Powers Hetalia speak English, it is horribly butchered and I can't understand it without subtitles.
>>637 I have a similar experience! When I was watching Heroes, I saw an Asian guy playing the role of a Japanese detective, and he was speaking in terrible Japanese that it was hard understand.
I'm no so familiar with Heroes but, Hiro's collegue speak Japanese with odd Japanese accent, too if I remember correctly.
Other than that, American Movie or drama industry lump Asians all together and makes Chinese or Koreans play Japanese characters and speak Japanese and that leads to odd Japanese.
Lots of cultual mixups, too. When Japanese charactrer appears, background music has Chinise flavor etc.
I found an example of why English is such a difficult language. Let me post it:
1) The bandage was wound around the wound. 2) The farm was used to produce produce. 3) The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse. 4) We must polish the Polish furniture. 5) He could lead if he would get the lead out. 6) The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert. 7) Since there is no time like the present, he thought it was time to present the present. 8) A bass was painted on the head of the bass drum. 9) When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes. 10) I did not object to the object. 11) The insurance was invalid for the invalid. 12) There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row. 13) They were too close to the door to close it. 14) The buck does funny things when the does are present. 15) A seamstress and a sewer fell down into a sewer line. 16) To help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow. 17) The wind was too strong to wind the sail. 18) Upon seeing the tear in the painting I shed a tear. 19) I had to subject the subject to a series of tests. 20) How can I intimate this to my most intimate friend?
"Let's face it - English is a crazy language. There is no egg in eggplant, nor ham in hamburger; neither apple nor pine in pineapple. English muffins weren't invented in England or French fries in France . Sweetmeats are candies while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet, are meat. We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes, we find that quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are square and a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.
And why is it that writers write but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce and hammers don't ham? If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth, beeth? One goose, 2 geese. So one moose, 2 meese? One index, 2 indices? Doesn't it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend? If you have a bunch of odds and ends and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call it?
If teachers taught, why didn't preachers praught? If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat? Sometimes I think all the English speakers should be committed to an asylum for the verbally insane.. In what language do people recite at a play and play at a recital? Ship by truck and send cargo by ship? Have noses that run and feet that smell?
How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise man and a wise guy are opposites? You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which your house can burn up as it burns down, in which you fill in a form by filling it out and in which, an alarm goes off by going on.
English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the creativity of the human race, which, of course, is not a race at all. That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible, but when the lights are out, they are invisible.
"It's easy to understand UP, meaning toward the sky or at the top of the list, but when we awaken in the morning, why do we wake UP? At a meeting, why does a topic come UP ? Why do we speak UP and why are the officers UP for election and why is it UP to the secretary to write UP a report? We call UP our friends. And we use it to brighten UP a room, polish UP the silver; we warm UP the leftovers and clean UP the kitchen. We lock UP the house and some guys fix UP the old car. At other times the little word has real special meaning. People stir UP trouble, line UP for tickets, work UP an appetite, and think UP excuses. To be dressed is one thing, but to be dressed UP is special. A drain must be opened UP because it is stopped UP.. We open UP a store in the morning but we close it UP at night. We seem to be pretty mixed UP about UP! To be knowledgeable about the proper uses of UP, look the word UP in the dictionary. In a desk-sized dictionary, it takes UP almost 1/4th of the page and can add UP to about thirty definitions. If you are UP to it, you might try building UP a list of the many ways UP is used. It will take UP a lot of your time, but if you don't give UP , you may wind UP with a hundred or more. When it threatens to rain, we say it is clouding UP. When the sun comes out we say it is clearing UP. When it rains, it wets the earth and often messes things UP When it doesn't rain for awhile, things dry UP. One could go on and on, but I'll wrap it UP, For now my time is UP, so... it is time to shut UP!"
>>635 I am Japanese :) But friends (American and British) have the same opinion as me We can find the terrible English song especially out of J-ROCK I think Cuz they often write all of lyrics in English
Oh, please, stop it.. You think you are implying that you've been watching me by giving me an overwhelming amount of information that you guys think would be enough to confuse me... I know you are watching me. That's why I ask you guys to stop that!
Absolutely no... How many times do I have to tell you guys I'm just an ordinary person like yourselves. Why do you guys find me so special? Please set me free.
Leave me alone... Don't take me for an anime character or something that you guys would put under control. I'm human!! Just an ordinary person I am like you guys are! Please understand...
there are many talented koeran and they are hiding in our society. most foreigner think they are japanese blood in either good and bad meanings. they are hiding because they are bad existance. but that is not relate to talented people. hiding is just ridiculous
For Westerners it can sometimes be hard to tell between Japanese, Chinese, and Korean people. It's like a Japanese person trying to tell the difference between an American and a Spanish person (without hearing them speak). Sometimes, though, it is easy. If they have dark skin then it's easy to tell that they're Southeast Asian. Or if I hear them speak (but of course most Westerners can't tell the differences among languages either).
>>683 Koreans are easy tell, if they have a typical korean face. Chinese is difficult, they are more diverse and some of them are like japanese. It's just like telling jews.
As to language, when i watch cnn or other news in english where a korean is interviewed, sometimes i think he speaks japanese with strong accent for a moment. That does not happen for chinese.
Or, some people in Japan say a cat is a creature that don't want to be seen dying so a cat that are owned by someone go missing when death time nears. That might be the case for the cat.
I have a question to nativge English speakers. Please rate of these English. Which of the four is the best, second best, third best and forth best. Any feedback is welcome, too.
1)Is Japan advanced?! or behind?! An article contains the substance of observation about adaptation of North American smart grid and recyclable energy by an energy forum. The energy forum made a researching group with 15 people who works for electric, gas, maker and finance. This researching group has been visited energy companies and laboratories in IT/ consultant companies in Texas and California whom works relating to smart community operating area or smart grids. The company A's laboratory of smart technology in Silicon Valley is one of the place they have been visited.
2)Is Japan ahead or behind in Smart Grid!? The article says that Energy Forum has inspected the Smart Grid trend and the current status of introduction of renewable energy in North America. Enegy Forum visited some energy companies, some demonstration areas for Smart community and IT companies and consulting comparies related to Smart Grid in Texas and California such as a Smart technology laboratory of Company A in Silicon Valley, with the inspection team which consists of 15 members those who involve power, gas, manufacture and finance.
3)Does Japan go ahead of the times or fall behind? This is an article that reports the Energy Forum's visit to some facilities to see the examples of how the technologies of smart grid and renewable energy is adopted in North America. Energy Forum organized a study team that consists of 15 members from various sectors such as energy, gas, manufacturing, finance. They visited energy companies, an experimental area for a smart community, and laboratories of IT and consultant companies that involve in smart grid technologies in Texas and California. A's smart technology lab in Silicon Valley is among facilities they visited.
4)Is Japan leading or lagging behing? This is an article reporting the Energy Forum’s investigation tour to better understand the current situation of smart grid projects and the introduction of renewable energy in the Northern America. The Energy Forum is an investigating commission, which consists of 15 members from power and gas companies, manufactures, and financial institutions. The commission visited Company A’s smart technology laboratory in Silicon Valley, energy companies, demonstration regions for smart community, laboratories in smart-grid related IT or consulting companies in Texas and California.
>>692-693 3, 2, 4, 1. 1 has a number of grammatical errors, but no spelling errors. 2 and 3 look almost like actual news articles, except for a couple of errors.
#3 is probably the most well-formed paragraph, 4 is next best, then 2, then 1.
I'll make some corrections on #3, changes are in **: This article reports *on* the Energy Forum's visit to some facilities to see -- how the technologies of smart grid and renewable energy *are* adopted in North America. >You would say "reports on" or "reports about" because the report probably does some explaining/analysis. For example, If I say "I am reporting this data", then you would assume my report contains only that raw data. If I say, "I am reporting about this data", then you would assume the report contains an analysis and perhaps draws conclusions about the data. >Use "are" because the subject is plural (two things)
*The* Energy Forum organized a study team that consists of 15 members from various sectors such as energy, gas, manufacturing *and* finance. >Use "and" to replace (or put after) the last comma in any list of items A and B are letters. A, B and C are letters. A, B, C and D are letters. Whether to put a comma before "and" or not is debatable, I prefer not to in this case.
They visited energy companies, an experimental area for a smart community, and laboratories of IT and consultant companies that *are involved* in smart grid technologies in Texas and California. >Use "are" as the verb, and adjective "involved" - the companies are not actively involving, they are in the state of being involved.
A's smart technology lab in Silicon Valley is among *the* facilities they listed.
Just stop that alreay... Now that you can't seem to stop watching me, I have to admit I'm game, but that doesn't mean you are allowed to do it again, so please quit that nonsense and leave me alone!
>>694 Thank you very much for your rating and all that!
>>695 In Japanese, a verb doesn't change its form no matter if a subject is plural or singular so Japanese English learners tend to make the mistake you pointed out. And preposition is something which is difficult to use correctly ragarding which prepositon is appropriate to use, and judging with or without it is sometimes difficult.
Your explantion about the difference between "report" and "report on/about" is an eye-opener for me! I learned a lot from other points in your post. Thank you very much!
>>699 You are ruining this thread and generally shaming whatever shithole you are from in from of the international internet. God damn, I hate you so much Sparky.
What's going on, you say? It's quite obvious, isn't it? You guys have been keeping watching me all long, and that creeps me out. I repeat myself, please stop that, ok? You must understand... Reserved as I am, I have to tell you guys it's not fair. Please quit it... Please...
That's because Japan is illegally oppupying Diaoyu islands and the Japan's patrol boat caught the innocent fishermen. Why must China pay compensation for Japan?
>>710 Still lurking around and keeping track of the thread. Or as close to keeping track as one can, of a thread this chaotic. But yes, it's more of a pain to post now that my ISP is banned (virginmedia.com).
>>712 Please don't say such things in public, or I'll be forced to report you to my superiors. Your life is in your own hands and I take no responsibility.
if you read europeans comments about immigrants and dirty foreigners and people getting heat up about fighting against marxisism and stuff. it is exactly the same with japan. then theres americans crying about mexicans. i think sometin is going to happen. heavy armed holy warrior jesus is coming from outer space. prepare for the final battle of heaven and hell.
Hey Japanese people! This summer it looks like I'm going to Japan. It will be my first time there. SO... what advice do you have for me so I don't look like an idiot? Especially since I will stay with a Japanese family for a few days.
>>727 WELCOME TO OTAKU PARADISE!!!キタ━━━ヽ(∀゚ )人(゚∀゚)人( ゚∀)ノ━━━!! Ah...advice? There's no such a thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST FEEL JAPAN!!!!!! Btw, are you an otaku?
>>733 excuse me. hamburger steak is wrong. it is japasese salisbury steak (Hanb?gu) Hanb?gu has been progressed uniquely in japan as one of 洋食. and also Hanb?gu has a good reputation for non-japanese . anyway it is worth to eat when you come to japan. http://hoteliz.up.seesaa.net/image/img003-a3afc.jpg
Which of these below is the best, second best, third best, fourth, and fifth best? They are short so it would be hard to judge each of them but, I appreciate if you gave me your rating!
1)While we have to make our ideals and opinions clear to a client as a PR consultant, the most important things is that both an agency and client become happy in the end. However, to make our ideals become reality, we, along with staffers from overseas need to look at things from various perspectives and align ourselves with clients well enough with how they think, how they do business, their in-house relationships in mind.
2)The ideal and attitude as a PR consultant should be advocated, and it is ideal that the agents and clients be happy in the end. However, to make your ideal come true, you have to adapt your idea skillfully to the client's from various point of view in cooperate with staffs from other countries - for example, client's way of thinking, how to do the business, and the relationship between company staffs should be respected.
3)As a PR consultant, you should difinitely tell your ideas and ideals to your clients and hopefully making you and your clients shappy in the end. To make this ideal to a reality, you need also to get together with your staff in other countries in order to alighn with your client taking into consideratios various aspects like the way client thinks, works and how they get along with each other internally within their organization.
4)Ideals and opinions as a PR consultant should be spoken out, and it is desirable for both agencies and clients to be satisfied at the end. In order to achieve their ideals, it is necessary for consultants, along with local staff members in a different country, to work together in perfect accord with clients. It is because there are various different perspectives such as how clients think, how they do their tasks and in-house interpersonal relationships.
5)It is important to assert ideal and idea as a PR consultant, though preferably what matter is both agency and client's happy agreement. However, in order to realize ideal for real, it is necessary to meet the client's need from diverse view point by working with staff from other countries, considering the client's idea, working method and relationship within the corporation.
No, off course not. This is from social translation site where everybody who has something to be tranlated ask for translation paying extremely low price because translators are not pro.
In the social translation site, users rate with each other (from 1=bad to 5=fantastic) so each amateur translators have their own rating average. But from what I see the rating average doesn't necessarily reflect their English translation ability correctly because almost all users who rate translations in the site are Japanese.
So I asked for native speakers point of view so far out of curiusity. The rating you told me here so far never go public because I was asking here for only me to know you native speakers opinions. I refrain from showing a link to the site so that some Japanese trolls won't come to the site. But you can google. Search words would be, "social translation"+ "conyac"
>>735 I don't know the PR consultants' business. Their style of business would be up to each of them: his chracters, organization, policy, clients. Flexibility is necessary isn't it?
Hey guys. What do you think of "kawaii" meaning? "kawaii" means cute, pretty,lovely, you know... But inside the word means "stupid" don't it? Sorry about my bad English, I just want to ask.
I am alive and still on Venus. I was put on suspended animation for maintenance. We Venusians need to undergo this operation every now and then for life prolonging effects. I was watching several episodes of Going! with Kamenashi in it throughout the process. Thanks to sweet Kame I know a bit about Japanese baseball.
They do make fun of a lot of things on that show, including the Queen, Hitler, Stalin, the World Wars, cricket, Britain, and other events, though I can understand that the gravity of such events will offend many people. It is by no means the most offensive British panel show, as most of them bring up topics that offend people, for some reason.
Anyway, just linking this for reference. Please don't shoot the messenger.
An A-Bomb story in comedy with a couple of Anglo-Saxon idiots? Wow that's totally new and shocking. Seriously I was 100 times more annoyed by the slow ass youtube connection.
Oops... it would have been useful if I'd read the posts before the Yahoo article about that BBC clip, instead of reposting what >>745 posted (sorry!).
The host of that show is a respected English comic actor. The panellists, however, vary from show to show. The curly haired guy is both not very quick and not very funny, and the short haired guy is often a panellist on another show which regularly receives many complaints for being offensive.
>>758 I know you understand basic Japanese but as far as I know you are not that fluent in Japanese to the extent you understand the Yahoo link. I don't mean to be rude reagarding your Japanese fluency. Just kind of impressed to know that you understand what the article says. Maybe with the help of google translation or something but Google translation isn't so helpful as for E<--->J translation so it takes some fluency or guess work to understand google translation result. Good job.
>>759 Thanks, I think... It's true that I'm hardly fluent, but find it much easier to read a language I'm learning than to write or speak it. The same applies to Russian... though it's much easier to input Japanese than Russian because of the input mode. Anyway... reading can be done almost anywhere, even with little motivation. Often, you don't even require a full grasp of grammar to understand a sentence. Writing takes more effort and thought because you generally do need a knowledge of sentence structure. And for speaking, well, it helps to have at least two people. I'm now trying to learn more about grammar in order to improve my writing, which is pretty poor.
>>765 Do you know all those kanji too or do you use a dictionary like me? I also have a Russian input method, but it's phonetic and much easier to use considering my keyboard is obviously not Russian. You need to find a specially-made one though in the internet. If you want it I can find it for you. >>746 I am coming with a group of students. So I won't have tons of free time. In Sapporo I will be taking classes too. I'm considering going to Osaka with my JR pass (even though it would be much easier from Kyoto, I have to go from Tokyo). I'd like to see the aquarium there. Any thoughts on that?
No... Please stop this nonsense... You must stop watching me like this any more. There are many more people who deserve you guy's attention.. Why me? I'm not special as I've been saying. If you only want to watch an ordinary person, there's more fish in the sea, wouldn't you say? You guys can pick out any person you like. So please leave me alone... please....
Oh, long time no see >>Igirisujin-san. Are you intersted in this chatroom? http://2chtenhou.chatango.com/ If so, please come! I've already participated in there and made my profile(When you come, you can check my FUNNY photo). I hope I can talk with you in there too.
Since I drank way too much caffeine I feel like writing something. I would like to outline one of the most important fundamental differences between Japanese and English. I see these misused by both sides quite often.
In Japanese the phrase よろしく/どうぞよろしく/よろしくお願いします/ etc. are phrases that generally express politeness toward the listener that literally translate to something like "please remember me", "please treat me favourably", or whatever. Japanese is a language that developed in a society that required explicit politeness, humility, and respect to properly support its highly hierarchical society. Therefore, phrases like this are typical. But English, which developed in a society of Vikings, barbarians, and later French people, has no such thing. The closest things we have to honorifics are "please" and "thank you".
So, some phrases that have become standard politeness phrases in Japanese, simply do not exist in English. As for my example, in a situation where you would say 「どうぞよろしく」, in English you would often say nothing. Otherwise, you would use "Thank you" (such as when leaving someone's presence assuming they did something for you), "Nice to meet you" (when meeting someone for the first time, but this replaces both よろしく and はじめまして), or maybe "Regards" (at the end of a formal letter).
The phrases "Please remember me" and "Please treat me favourably" are never used in English.
Similarly, 失礼します best translates to "Excuse me", but "excuse me" is also not used as often as 失礼します is in Japanese. For example, when leaving a room, you would say "Bye" or "See ya" if you won't be seeing the person for a while, or "Thank you" if they did something for you, or something like that. "Excuse me" is usually used a) after sneezing, b) when leaving someone's presence temporarily, or c) bumping into someone on the street.
Phrases like すみません、ごめんなさい、and 申し訳ありません all usually translate to "Sorry" or "I apologize" (more formal), of course with exceptions (for example, すみません sometimes means "Excuse me", in the sense of apologising). But I'm sure you all already know that.
"Polite" phrases such as 行ってきます、行ってらっしゃい、ただいま、and お帰りなさい would probably be said in English as "Bye"/"See ya later", "Bye"/"See ya later", "I'm home", and "Welcome home" or just "Hi". These phrases can vary substantially though because they're not bound by societal restrictions like the Japanese phrases (more so) are.
Furthermore, いただきます and ご馳走さま do not really have counterparts in English. Usually in those cases you say nothing. Perhaps for the last one "That was delicious", but that's only if it actually was delicious and you want to comment that.
Well that's all I can think of. I'm sure most of you already know most of these things but I see them misused a lot. Therefore, I used this opportunity to explain proper usage. If you actually read all of this, I congratulate you. Any questions or comments? I feel like a teacher...
>>774-775 These posts of yours make me more careful to use English. Indeed, I often use the phrase "Please re- member me" as よろしくお願いします when I intro- duce myself. I got to know よろしくお願いしますis just Please or Thank you in English. Thank you for giving me the correct knowledge.
お帰りなさい is often be said by (stay at home) mother when her kids come back home, or by kids/wife when their dad/husband come back home. It's a daily phrase. Maybe I'm wrong but "Welcome home" is used for more special occasion like when you were away from home for long absense or when you come back from very important/big event. Am I wrong?
> いただきます and ご馳走さま This is not a language question but a question about American custom. Do you pray before dinner or each meals? Only religious people do that nowadays?
One of the things I was surprised most recently is that Happy New Year isn't exactly the same as 明けましておめでとう。
明けましておめでとう is only used after a new year starts, while Happy new year can used both after and "before" a new year start. If you say 明けましておめでとう before a new year starts, you'd be told, "huh? it's not a new year yet. What are you talking about?"
>>767 aquarium at Osaka.. is it Kaiyukan ? Kaiyukan is famous for whale shark. we walk helical aisle around the very big water tank. but due to its big size, we watch less other species than other large aquarium such as Toba aquarium. Kaiyukan is adopted just for whale shark.. so if you don't have interst in it, you can be boreing.
and if you come to Kansai, i strongly recommend you to buy 551Butaman at JR or Hankyu station.
>>778 Yes, "Welcome home" is perfectly fine, but is unnecessary for if the speaker recently saw the person. If used that way, it is probably sarcastic. Which is why I also gave the translation of "Hi". A person returning home from, say, school, would be greeted generally in the same way as if the mother saw him or her on the street. You use a normal greeting.
Some people pray before meals. Mostly it's families. For example, my family prays before each meal that we all have together or if we have people at our house for dinner, but by myself I never pray (I am a godless heathen, you see). It might be strange for a person by himself to pray before a meal, but maybe not. Similarly I think it would be strange to do it in a restaurant, but I may not speak for every American and it varies by region as well.
>>779 I think it's weird to say "Happy new year" before the new year, but a lot of people do it. I guess it's like a greeting, wishing for the person's next year to be prosperous (even if it hasn't arrived yet). It's like saying "have a good weekend" on Thursday- it's fine if it's the last time you'll see the person until after that time.
>>783 How about 吸って欲しいのです? Would that be more appropriate? what if I added an 陰茎を to the front? or ご主人様の in front of that? I think that would make an appropriate apology.
japanese video games are less translated to worldwide compared to manga and anime. especially super famcom(SNES) masterpieces are only sold in japan. it's a pity. personally, these chunsoft's sound novel series (otogiriso, kamaitachi no yoru, machi) should be exported to worldwide.
>>800 Visual and sound novels have such a small market internationally that they are very rarely translated. People would love to have them in English but there are not enough English-speakers who would buy it for it to be worth the cost of translating. However, some people have started translating VN's by themselves, for example, http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Main_Page
>>801 i went this link, but these games are mostly adult game or gal game. you may know, chunsoft's sound novels are quit different in quality. in japan, these titles are sometimes evaluated as the most interesting game along with final fantazy series, dragon quest series(originally chunsoft programmed dragon quest series until 5. dragon quest 1-5 are also evaluated exeptionally. some says dragon quest 6-9 have not impressions as before.), resident evil series, mario series, zelda series, pokemon series.. but as you say, translating process is such a heavy task especially in sound novel genre. sound novel needs very detailed translation and without it these masterpieces become trash.
>>805 You are exaggerating it too much. It wasn't as big as those major titles even back in the day. Also, top VNs own chunsoft's sound novels, easily.
>>808 as the point of total sales, i agree. but in the quality i disagree. machi is always one of top vote as their favorite games by Famitsu readers. >>809 the list is not includes chunsoft's sound novels. i don' know the reasons.
Maybe I should play it someday then. I only played Otogiriso and Kamaitachi. I considered buying Machi but the live-action characters kind of put me off.
>>782 Thanks for your detail explanation. Can't imagine someone is praying in a fast food shop like MacDonald's.
So Happy New Year is a hybrid of 明けましておめでとう&良いお年を。 良いお年を is formal way of saying have a nice year used like you describe in 782. 良いお年を(お迎えください)お迎えください is often abriviated and you just say 良いお年を。
>>767 I think you will get enough of Kansainess in Kyoto, and Osaka might not be worth visiting especially from Tokyo. But I've never been to Osaka myself, and I have no idea what kind of things foreigners would enjoy, so you shouldn't listen to me.
Are you going to Nara while visiting Kyoto? Because giving shika-senbei to the deer is a must, if you like school animes.
>>811 machi's quality is awesome. and quantity is enough (bad end is above 100 patterns). before start the game i also don't like real actor/actress, but the thought changed all over.
By the way, I have a thing I wanna say. it's about that incident of BBC.; I wonder if some Japanese broadcast studio produce a TV program like the program of BBC and treat you-know-who rock'n roll star who suggested "War is over"in public as the un- lukiest man like they do.
>>816 I doubt the British public would be too bothered. Of course, some people would complain, but that's the nature of the British public, who enjoy complaining about anything, whether it be the weather, Muslims, the working class, the upper class, the government, the monarchy, old people, young people, new music, old music, Germans, French, the neighbours, etc.
>>777 Forgot that he even existed. But won't go to his blog anyway because the sight of even just his ear sickens me.
>>819 I saw the article. I hope BBC never do such silly thing again. Because jokes sometimes make someone angry.
Speaking of my own story about that, when my male senior said "I feel cold a little" at the kitchen in my part-time workplace, my another male senior said "It seems like you're hot because you're fat" smilling. And then he was chased by that senior getting angry. I guess he(=the another senior) thought his joke could make him laugh. But, the result is it. So, all we have to choose jokes go with the atmosphere, when we say jokes. Otherwise, it'll be just rude.
I don't think the BBC clip is that offensive. It's just inappropriate. What I felt from it was that they just don't know anything about japan and japanese history. Proper understanding of other countries is the basis of international cooperation, but these guys on the clip are nothing to do with international community. So who outside UK cares what they do or speak?
>>825 As long as Britain is one of nuclear powers, I think it's offensive. Nuclear powers have to be very sensitive to the victims. BBC is practically UK government itself. I'm Japanese and would like to hear your(outsiders of Japan) opinions.
Q: What is the difference between a dead dog in the road and a dead football hooligan in the road? A: There are skid marks in front of the dog.
Q: You're trapped in a room with a tiger, a rattlesnake, and a British football hooligan. You have a gun with two bullets. What should you do? A: Shoot the hooligan... Twice.
A short time ago, I finished watching the movie, The social network(See my post, >>815). The movie left the messages to us, viewers. These are "How great and genius Mark Zuckerberg are", "Be careful not to lose friends when you found something new". I think it's so interesting movie.
And I wonder if the supervision of this movie make a movie about Hiroyuki Nishimura 2ch founder. If so, the title of the movie will be "2channel". Well, this is just my illusion and never come true.
>>829 That is a joke. It shows how hooligans are hated and considered worthless in UK. The joke means it's better to shot the hooligan twice to make sure he'll die rather than killing the tiger and rattlesnake.
>>813 We will go to Nara, but I'm not sure what we will do there. I would like to see the Daibutsuden in Toudai-ji and visit the Nara Kouen. Hopefully we will.
But this still doesn't answer where I should go.
>>828 It was a pretty good film, huh? If you ask me though, he was just lucky that it became so popular. I think a lot of success is based on luck.
the movie "Social network" is almost a fiction movie and exaggerated, not based on exact facts. It was made for entertainment.
If you want to know the real story behind how Facebook was made and developped over the course, you should read "Facebook effect" written by a writer who was(or stil is?) a reporter of Fortune magazine.] This book is based on facts with accuracy. Marc zackerberg is known for his dislike for mass media but he relies on the reporter and cooperated with him 100% when he starated writing the book.
>>832 I don't think luck facters alone could have taken him where he's now. His vison, leadership, technology, programming skills among other things are must to survive dog eat dog IT industry.
>>813 We will go to Nara, but I'm not sure what we will do there. I would like to see the Daibutsuden in Toudai-ji and visit the Nara Kouen. Hopefully we will.
But this still doesn't answer where I should go.
>>828 It was a pretty good film, huh? If you ask me though, he was just lucky that it became so popular. I think a lot of success is based on luck.
>>826 I see the point, but the fact that the UK has nuclear weapons do not change my opinion, because I don't think complete disarmament of nuclear weapons are possible, and even desirable. Some mostly sane countries have to have nuclear weapons, and the UK is one of them.
>>835 If you go to Nara, there aren't so many things you'd enjoy: feed deers and visit temples, just that.
For temples, Todaiji and Horyuji are the must, and you can feed deers along the way to these temples. Deers in Nara literally bow down to you when you have shika-senbei. They know what's needed to get food.
For Osaka, Kaiyukan aquarium is fun to see, so you will not be dissapointed. Other than that there are many things you can do, so you can be a bit more specific about what you want to see, or what you expect when you travel. Then people on this thread might respond.
>>836 >I don't think complete disarmament of nuclear weapons are possible I agree with you on the point. Many people view nuclear weapons as a necessary evil. So do I.
I'm just saying the super powers should have thoughtfulness to ordinary citizen victims.
>>838 Thank you for your response. We're going to Nara anyway, but only for a day. that ought to give me enough time to do the things I want to do. What do I want to... eat good food and see things that are famous in Japan. Like for you guys, what were some of your best experiences in Japan?
>>835 at nara kouen, notorious deers will attack you and rob of foods. a lot of native kansaizin have experienced the heartwarming homemade bento was stolen by the swarm of fierece deers. you must take care with full armed or you easily lose your fingers. but you can't attack these deers. they are protected by the prefecture. they are adored as a sacred symbol. if you attack them, you'll get chucked into jail and never come back to california.
We've tried everything from astronomy to fortune-telling and even crossing a gypsy's palm with silver. But nothing works. We simply cannot read your minds.
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>>845 The jokes sometimes I copy and paste is from a newsletter of a British man, whoes job is a translator, writer etc., publishes every week. So many jokes are related to UK like that of hooligans. But >>830 has nothing to do with UK although they're from his newsletter, too.
Q: What do you call a man with three eyes? 目が3つある人をどう呼ぶ? A: Seymour. シーモア(シーモアという人名は実際にある。Seymourはsee more と同じ発音。ちょっとイントネーション違うけど。see more 目が一つ多いから 「もっと見る」)
Q: What do you call a girl who stands up straight in a field? 野原にまっすぐ立っている女の子の名前は?) A: Daisy デイジー(この人名も実際にあるけど、daisyには菊の意味もある。)
>>847 Yeah, actually sometimes he lists those jokes as English version of "oyaji gag." His wife is Japanese and he lives in Japan for quite a long time so he knows Japanese culture and everything inside out.
Mr. Jones visited his doctor to say that his marriage was on the rocks owing to a recent bout of impotence. The doctor examined him and told him that his problem was a lack of exercise. “Now, I want you to get up early tomorrow morning and run exactly ten miles. No more, no less,” said the doctor. “And then, I want you to run ten miles the next day, and the next day and the next day. Keep this up for one week, and then let me know how things are going.” Exactly one week later, the doctor received a telephone call. “Good morning, Mr. Jones. How are things with you and your wife?” he asked. “How should I know,” replied Mr. Jones, “I’m seventy miles from home.”
>>849 I suppose it would make sense, he was Jewish and it's a part of that religion to be circumcised (have the foreskin of the penis removed). Not all Christians do this, but some do. Doing so reduces the chance of getting certain diseases so it has some health benefits. Circumcision is most prevalent in Middle Eastern and African countries, followed by North America.
Hey Japanese people, when you write Japanese words in romaji, what method do you (personally) use? Is し "si" or "shi"? Is 新聞 "shinbun" or "shimbun"? And is 東方 "touhou", "toohoo", or "toho"?
No... You guys can't seem to stop watching me.. How come? What's made me interesting to you guys? I'm just an ordinary person. You know that, don't you? I don't want to be treated differently than others. I'm not special. I know that. So why do you guys keep crucifying me? Just quit it. I want to live in peace. Please understand, please....
>>858 I learned romaji before learning English. I never use romaji in my daily life. I would write sinbun for 新聞, touhou for 東方. shimbun is correct for English, but not by romaji method, I think.
Hey, Mr. nanashi, I bet you are a Harvard-educated Japa-Ota. So cool, isn't it?
>>860 Well, this is based on how you type them, right? Romanisation can be done a few different ways.
I forgot a few other words: 二人 is "futari" or "hutari"? 音読み is "onyomi", "onnyomi", "on'yomi", or something else? 葛 is "kuzu" or "kudzu"? 僕は is "boku ha" or "boku wa"? 彼を is "kare wo" or "kare o"? クワ is "kuwa" or "kwa"? 鳳凰 is "ho'oh", "houou", "hoh'oh", "hoo'oo" or "ho'o"? and of the old ones: し is "si" or "shi"? 新聞 is "shinbun" or "shimbun"? And 東方 is "touhou", "toohoo", "tohhoh" or "toho"?
Thank you if you take the time to respond. Maybe this will make you think about the different ways of writing Japanese in Latin script. There are many. I will give my preferences after I see yours.
I use -m- and -ou only when I am sure that it is the established standard spelling. However, for place names and personal names, I usually use -n- even though the official spellings use -m-. It doesn't feel right somehow.
Anime community in the west seems to have adopted -ou, so I usually use it to spell anime characters names, but for real people I always use -o. So ZUN's Touhou is Touhou, but for other things named Touhou (such as companies and schools), I would spell it Toho.
>>863 Fu. Hu is wrong. It's stupid. Only dumb people use it. Onyomi. But on'yomi if I needed to make sure it is not nyo. Kuzu. Kudzu looks like an Americanized product. Wa. But using ha is ok. Wo. O looks a bit dumb. Kuwa. Kwa is just wrong and never seen it. Ho'oh. If it was an anime character, then Houou.
I use si when communicating with other Japanse speakers in romaji but otherwise use shi.
A grasshopper walks into a bar, the bartender says, "hey, I have a drink named after you"! Then the grasshopper says, "Really, you have a drink called Jerry"?
>>858 When I am not sure about spelling of a word, I google it in both version, and use the one with larger number of results.
There seems no general rule to apply for choosing n or m before p or b. I prefer n though the pronunciation is m, because always using n for ん is simpler.
二人 is "futari". : ふ is "fu" though we don't have english pronunciation of 'f'. 音読み is "onyomi" or "on'yomi": The latter is preferable to avoid confusion. 葛 is "kuzu". 僕は is "boku ha": は should be 'ha'. 彼を is "kare wo". クワ is "kuwa": We do not add or clip vowels. Each hiragana must end with a vowel except for ん. 鳳凰 is "ho'oh", "houou", "hoh'oh", "hoo'oo" or "ho'o": I dunno about this. し is "shi".
>>873 san kyuu can i ask you one more question? is it true that igirisujins are reluctant to talk about his private things even to friends? like do you have a girlfriend? or something like that
>>874 Hmm... it really depends on the person. Friends are more likely to discuss personal matters but, generally, British people are quite private. I'm not sure whether this is due to mistrust of other people or because of etiquette passed down through the ages. People might not speak about even vaguely personal things to others... small-talk is very normal among acquaintances, colleagues and neighbours, not often extending beyond such things as "The weather's not very nice today...". It's unusual for people to speak to each other while waiting for trains or buses, unless they're over 80.
>>875 thank you for replying :) it seemes a little bit different from japanese my friend often confess me "i got a more kawaii girlfriend, what about you?"
I rote wrong things. Shimbashi was actually just JR's official spelling and not of the town itself. So the signs in the station say Shimbashi but road signs say Shinbashi. They should fix it. I think it is something like a legacy from old generations as the people who use that method are mostly old people. But I may be talking out of my ass.
Thank you everyone who responded to my question. Personally, I prefer the following:
二人 as "futari" (of course) 音読み as "on'yomi" to distinguish from おにょみ 葛 as "kuzu", but the plant in English is actually called "kudzu". 僕は as "boku wa", since it's more accurate to pronunciation 彼を as "kare o" for the same reason, but "kare wo" is ok クワ as "kuwa" 鳳凰 as "hō'ō" (with lines over the o's) if written formally but "houou" casually し as "shi", since it is more phonetically correct 新聞 as "shinbun". Usually I go with the more phonetically correct spelling, but this is an exception. And 東方 as "tōhō" (with lines over the o's) formally or "touhou" casually.
>>875 >"The weather's not very nice today..." So I guess in England the phrase "Nice weather, huh?" is never really valid...
I watched GO episode 3 and it was still bad. I knew it but I still watched it. It's Taiga Drama and theiry use videogame like tunes for BGM. Japanese TV is rotten.
They use a 40 years old woman as a 20 yeas old character. and 20something women as 9 years old. Nobunaga is just bouyomi. BGM is from Shenmue, and some heavy electric guitar, in a drama about feudal war Japan. Script is worse than Harry Potter. I'm going to watch Harry Potter. I think the guy with glasses is awesome he flies and throw lazer beam from a wooden stick and kill bad dudes and monsters like nobody's business. That's war. Guy with glasses blasting the shit out of bad dude for killing his parents. We need his manliness on our TV.
>>890 Since British people have to moan and complain about everything, we would say "The weather's too hot! It should be cooler!". But that only happens for one week every year, since the weather's hardly ever nice. And during that time, many British people are on holiday in Spain, France or the Greek and Spanish islands, being loud and obnoxious and causing drunken mayhem.
Roruchan's new video is out now and it's about the left wing parties in Germany and a little about their history. You should watch it. And he said hes going to talk about the right wings in Germany next.
So the dark age of doom is coming and we need jesus mercy, and I was thinking, one needs a cross if one wants Jesus mercy power. wooden cross is the best choice because it can impale romanian zombis and vampires. they burn when they got impaled by wooden crossed. next we need silverware and garlic to fuck their nose.
>>899 It's not really that bad. You'd probably be ignored, but if you say "excuse me" and ask someone a question, you'll most likely receive a proper answer.
>>895 There are some people who do rent out their homes to tennis players, and make a small fortune from it. However, it's usually just the less well-known players who would do this. There are other accommodations set up specially for the richer, more well known players. These places cost around £9000 per week, apparently.
>>901 I would probably be ignored, but if I say excuse me and ask a question, I will receive an answer...? Does it mean that without "excuse me", I will be ignored? My english is not good enough to understand it.
I got something new yesterday. Speaking of the detail, in my workplace, a customer gave me a card. it's an invitation to dance party! But, it seems like for people in happy life for having many friends or sweet darlin'...(lately, we call such people "リア充(Ria-jyu)". It means "people in perfect satisfying life") Then I thought "If I go to there, I will be sorry..." So, I gave it our manager. The card was passed by my male seniors again and again. In result, it returned to me... Namely, who can go to there is me. I wonder if I can enjoy in there...
What do you think about China's Gundam statue? They painted it yellow thinking it was enough to avoid copyright problem. China is fuckin ridiculous. It's unfathomable.
>>901 but japanese tennis veteran Kimiko Date Krumm have said so on her book. until 94 she had rented a hotel room, but from 95 she began to rent the resident's house. she said it's more expensive, but roomy and comfotable and close to the court. so players can adjust to the bad weather condition easily. famous players do such and try to decrease these burden. for instance Steffi Graf also rented a house near the one kimiko rented. this is not true ? or the situation has changed these days?
>>903 Well... you may not be ignored, but you probably wouldn't receive as polite an answer. Approaching someone and saying just "Where is [somewhere]?" sounds too demanding to many people.
>>909 I have never seen anything like that in massive scale. One or two words are just fine. If all hiraganas are coverted to katakana, I guess that it's hard to read.
>>909-910 Writing hiragana in katakana is like writing in all caps in English, isn't it? It emphasizes words, like, 僕はアニメが大好きです versus 俺アニメがダイスキだぜ!! You can tell that with a subtle difference in script, the meaning changes.
Sometimes I intentionally pick katakana words. For instance, アツい instead of 熱い or あつい メンドクサイ instead of 面倒くさい イヤなヤツ instead of 嫌な奴 (a jerk) I am not irritated only by the fact that it is in katakana. If someone call me イヤなヤツ, of course I am offended, but it's not because of katakana.
>>908 Thanks With my poor understanding of english grammar I thought it might be a joke that means... If I said excuse me or not, I would probably be ignored anyway Because you always say jokes with strait face, it's sometimes confusing
No! You guys are still watching me... Why? Why can't you stop it? Please grow up.. There's someone out there who's suitable for you... Not me. I'm not so special. I'm just an ordinary person like you guys. Please understand..
>>917 Pretty old expression...it was true in man-dom age of Japan. As to today's Japan, manly boys is unpopular among girls. Do you know the word 草食系? You have to be a kind of girly, if you want to get a girlfriend.
>>921 I once read someone's blog who discussed 草食系. He said many Japanese men nowadays would spend more time in the bathroom than their girlfriends, fixing their hair or something. What a strange time we live in. In America, girls still tend to like manly men, 肉食系. >>922 In a dictionary.
>>929 I didn't make fun of Jesus. I did make fun of someone who made a ridiculous question about Jesus super star. Good night, folks. I'm tired from work today.
Watching Hollywood movies with English audio and English subtitles turned on helped me a lot when I was learning English. But now I'm teaching myself Japanese, and to my dismay there are almost no Japanese DVDs of Japanese films that come with same-language subtitles. Being a deaf person in Japan must suck really hard.
>>936 No,you can read the future of a man with his cock. Check the cock of your boyfriend in the early morning. If it's very hard, he is a promising man.
>>943 Why do you continue to practice making the Oyaji joke in 2channel? To try to please your daughter? I bet it would be in vain. Fathers in Japan are lonely, aren't we?
guys lets go buy some Bollywood DVDs and learn Indian or whatever they speak. filthy china is going to crumble sooner or later, and india will be the boss. so lets go buy some Bollywood DVDs. and eat their authentic curry.
Yesterday I had a class on Japanese government and politics, taught by the associate director of Harvard's Japanese Studies department (which is surprisingly large). My professor made some generalizations about Japanese people that I would like to test. Also it might get this thread going again. So, Japanese people:
How would you define your government in one phrase?
Would you consider yourself an average Japanese citizen?
Would you consider yourself lower, middle, or upper class?
What do you think of Article 9 of the Japanese constitution?
That's all for now. You may answer any number of these in English or Japanese. This isn't homework but I wanted to see if my professor was right. So go for it, 日本人! Express your opinions!
PS- I mentioned 2ch and he said he had never heard of it. How strange.
>>937 I like watching DVDs I study hearing english by watching them . I have been memorizing MBA vocabulary . Unknown words of DVD is looked up in MBA vocabulary . Anyway I study hardly .
>>952 How would you define your government in one phrase? Dysfunctional. I believe they have good intention but they do not know how to make a plan and coordinate government resources.
Would you consider yourself an average Japanese citizen? No. Just living in the US puts me out of the ordinary japanese category.
Would you consider yourself lower, middle, or upper class? Lower class, since I am a grad student, but I hope I have a chance to be a middle class.
What do you think of Article 9 of the Japanese constitution? Should be repealed. Constitutions are contracts between citizens and governments. Both parties have to abide by. Article 9 has been violated by the existence of the Self Defense Force (I do not agree with our government's interpretation of the article. The SDF is definitely military force), and toleration of one unconstitutional action by government can lead another. Since renounce of war potential is not a realistic option, the only way to correct this is to repeal the article.
>>954 >Anyway I study hardly . Studying hard or hardly studying? :) The order you put that in can completely change the meaning, and the way you said it would be taken to mean that you are NOT studying very hard.
Of course, you may have known that and meant that, and I am being pretentious. If that is the case, I am sorry.
>>952 >How would you define your government in one phrase? I'm not interested in politics. Average japanese thinnk that Japanese government can't deliver. Whoever becomes prime minister, nothing will change and I think that's what your prof explained to you stundents as average reactions to politics.
>Would you consider yourself an average Japanese citizen? No. NEET can't be called average Japanese person. Your prof must have explained Japanese people all tend to consider themselves average, I think.
>Would you consider yourself lower, middle, or upper class? No income, no dignity as a NEET so I'm definately at the bottom of Japanese society. Your prof must have expalined to you that Japanese people tend to cansider themselves middle class. I would say the gap between the rich and the poor is widening so the time when almost all Japanese think they are all middle class is almost gone. Still, the gap of the rich and poor in Japanese society is narrow than US society, though.
>What do you think of Article 9 of the Japanese constitution? I don't care. The article and constitution itself is forced by US after the WWII. Like it or not, there would be big opposition from inside Japan and Asian countries if the article abolished. It's kind of ridiculous we have to wait until foreign countries strike us. That's not fair.
>>964 Wow, your commercials are much.... more lively than what we have here in America. I just don't know how I would feel if that interrupted a quiet show.
>>961 She doesn't audibly say "I'll". But by her tone of voice, and the context, it is assumed she meant to say "I'll take one". "Take one" would be a command and was obviously not what she was saying.
>>952 >How would you define your government in one phrase? A bureaucrat-governed state Almost all the politicians are incapable to govern Japan. They lack ability, information, and understanding to draft bills.(What a terrible lawmaker they are!). Therefor, most of bills are drafted by bureaucrats. They are designing Japan.
Bureaucrats have no face and love uniformity...they made uniformed Japan, uniformed people. That's why 90 percent of Japanese people considered themselves as middle class or average.
And we have just realized that we still have to rely on the bureaucrats. Where is Japan going to? it's like sinking Titanic...
To tell you the truth, I'm a minor bureaucrat...not on the fast track to promotion, of course.
Thank you all, those who answered my questions. The answers that my professor gave was: >How would you define your government in one phrase? Most Japanese people, especially younger ones, are dissatisfied with their government and think of it as a source of corruption and lies. >Would you consider yourself an average Japanese citizen? Most Japanese people would say no, that they are unique, as opposed to the US, where people assimilate more and thus it is easier for the US to maintain a large military force. >Would you consider yourself lower, middle, or upper class? Most Japanese people would consider themselves middle class. >What do you think of Article 9 of the Japanese constitution? Most people want it repealed, but opinions as to what to change it to are extremely varied and no consensus can be reached.
>>987 >>Would you consider yourself an average Japanese citizen? >Most Japanese people would say no, that they are unique, as opposed >to the US, where people assimilate more and...
I think that's the complete opposite of what most Japanese people think about themselves and Americans.
>>987 > the US, where people assimilate more and thus it is easier for > the US to maintain a large military force. I may not agree with this part. The US pushes people hard to accept the ideals of the country, such as democracy, human rights, and Jesus. But the reason why they do so is because without them, people do not have anything common. Japan is more homogeneous country.
>>988,992 What matters isn't whether Japanese people are actually unique, but what Japanese people think about themselves. Here's an experiment: go around in your school or work (unless you're a hikkikomori) and ask people if they think they're an average Japanese citizen. Keep track of how many say yes or no. You may be surprised.
>>993 I know, that's what I said and meant. Most of us consider ourselves as average, non-unique Japanese citizens who do and think the same thing as everyone else. One might answer "I'm unique" in the sense that he is a socially inept person who can't fit in with others, though (like >>958 said). And also, what >>994 said.