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>>5 right, i totally understand the concept here, like i said, just wondered what's like to be talking to people who are not native speakers of your own language in a forum its purpose is supposed to be practicing your language... then I guessed, that might be those non japanese speakers are actually living in in japan right now on business ,learning the japanese language, of as a specialist of some researh or such and such, and having a look at this site to get to know what the japanese culture is, what the real japanese people talk about, etc.
And I thought you were Japanese learning English. That doesn't mean your English is bad. Actually, I can't tell which is a post of Japanese English learners and which is one of Native English spealers. (I can distinguish it when one's English is too bad, though)
Some Japanese English learners often claim what's the point of talking to Japanese English learners in English.
>>9 No problem. There's no manners here. :) This is wild wild west. Evetythings goes here ranging from verbal abuses to link spams and whatever.
As I said, Japanese people can't distinguish native English speakers posts so some native English speakers type their handle name if they want. That's beneficial both for Japanese English learners and native English speakers who wants to stand out. Of course if you prefer to stay anonymous, you don't have to type your name. (Just typing handle name is almost the same as being anonymous though.)
Once in a while, Japanese English leaners use handle name, too for their own reasons. Basically, anything goes here.
>>4 I live in the UK, but travelled a lot while growing up. Some of my parents' friends and acquaintances belonged to the Japanese embassy, and a couple had children around my age. So I suppose we shared cultural experiences and found it pretty interesting. As for why I'm here, on the English board, I had been browsing around 2ch a few years back, seeing what there was to see, and came across it by accident. So the reason I post here is a mixture of curiosity about what people discuss, a morbid curiosity about what trolls here are like, an attempt at being useful to English learners, and also to prevent any more one-sided anti-English sentiment being spread around by one or two other posters. As well as being able to find out more about things I'd like to know more about, culturally, socially, or otherwise.
>>10 im happy that i found a place that i could share my feelings at. i just had a really unpleasant experience a few hours ago at a nice cafe.
i live in the us now, but i see a lot of japanese people in my city. most of them are nice, and i made frends with lot of japanese people here, but some of them are just disgustingly abnoxious.
im not saying all the japanese people in japan are polite and friendly, but i believe that being always polite toward any kind of person is one of the japaneses virtues, even though some people consider that that part of japanese behavior is only superficial and no substencial feeling attached to the smile we make. i agree. but my point is, no matter weather or not its real, if you are treated nicely, thats much better than treaded like dirt, isnt it?
so long story short (its already long, though, anyway), i was treated like shit by a japanese girl at the nice cafe, just becaue of me being japanese!
it actually happened to me sooo many times. and most of the time, those who treat other japanese are "japanese girls(women),who have been in the us long enough to be fluent in english'
i ALWAYS try to be nicer to other japanese here than any other kind of people, because i know whats like to be a forigner.
but they, those japanese girls are completely DIFFERENT. dont know what makes them behave like that, all i know is they hate talking to other japanese people and even give us a looking-down-on kind of look. this is absolutely ridicurous.
>>13-14 When I first read your post, I thought you're a foreginer. Now I understand that you are Japansese living in US.
>i was treated like shit by a japanese girl at the nice cafe, >just becaue of me being japanese!
I don't know why, but maybe They don't want to meet Japanese when they are in US for whatever reason such as an exchange student. Meeting with Japanese people brings them back to reality when they are kind of living in a fantacy land or another dimension, ie living in a foregin country.
I heard the same thing about foreigners living in Japan. Foreginers here in Japan feel awkward when they meet other "gaijins" in town. But that doesn't mean they have to treat badly each other, which I don't think they do.
Or maybe you were "kimoi" to the girls. Don't take it seriously, this is 2ch so I try to be direct without sugar-coated way of saying. No offense.
>>15 true. i think they are thinking being japanese is kinda "dasai", so they want to differ themselves from other japanese. maybe.
>>16 it happens daily in my area. dont know about other places of the us, but yes, certainly, it does at least in this city.
>>17 i dont think i was kimoi, though im not for sure... but what i wanted to tell you guys here is that there is definitely a group of people of that type which i explained.
>>3 In that case I am changing category, because Kame Girl does not qualify for stupidity. I will be in the pedofile woman category. Watching clips of half-naked chibi Kame qualifies me.
>>19 Even if you didn't have to work today, you wouldn't do anything special for Halloween, would you?
As we talked in the previous thread, it isn't commmon to celebrate Holloween except commercially promoted holloween goods. It's not rooted in our mind.
>>17 Whenever I encounter other Americans in a foreign country, I do not feel awkward at all. Sometimes, I actually want to go and talk to them since they speak English too. That's why I'm sort of curious why those Japanese girls would treat him badly. Maybe he just encountered some ill-mannered people and they happened to be Japanese women.
I want to get some candy from Halloween, but I'm afraid I'll be studying for an exam.
>>19 It's okay that we can't enjoy Halloween. We still have Christmas and New Years to look forward too!
This post is irrelevant to his original post but this Charisma men's story is kind of funny that depicts Western men's life in Japan. Of course I think the comic is exaggerated but still sheds some light on Western's men's life in Japan.
>>27 The answer to your question could vary depending on your personal info, mainly sex and other things such as age and your fuency in English.
So you should have said you are a girl in the first place. Maybe the mean girls is in rivalry or something. Plus they don't want to talk with Japanese people when they are in US.
Hooters in Tokyo! It seems like for a few days the gals from USA joined for promotion. I heard they wear one size smaller short pants. They are bombs! Wanna try Hooters once. I wonder if Igirisu-jin can keep his straight face and act like a real gentleman. I know I would drool and stare at them. Isn't it against their policy to allow customers to shoot a video and take photos?
i know what you mean, but its their personal issue.
whatever the kind of person they talk to is, changing their atitiude pretty much distinctively depending on the person dispite the fact that s/he doesnt do anything wrong or bad to them, is considered to be a behavior of a person with immaturity.
especially when im a customer and they are a worker at a shop or equivalent, bringing up thir own taste or bias is not acceptable.
not that i dont have any mercy, but the way they act is just too noticable. whenever i come across this situation, it makes me feel really desappointed.
everytime my non japanese friends asked me how the japanese are, i used to answer "japanese people could be a little uptight, but are always try to nice and plite to others no matter who the person we interact with. which is the part of their charactaristic i think great".
i dont mean to keep on complaining on this matter, so im not going to give you guys any more of negative images about them. but let me please tell you guys this. if you got a chance to live overseas and had oppotunities to meet your people there, please be nice to them.
>>13-14 I understand exactly why those Japanese girls don't look at you or ignore you when they found you as the sibling of her around Caucasian society. Because I've gone thorough that feeling once when I was little. I was in US during early adolescent days. I was the only Japanese in the school. There was one girl in two lower class, Chinese from Hong Kong. I rarely talked to her in public coz I thought it was shameful of me to talk with her so that ppl may see us and think I was one of those group of Asian people. I wanted to be apart from them, I didn’t even talk to my father in public coz he was Japanese(of course)^^;; Sorry dad....
My only wish was to be a white girl because I knew there was far distance between them and me. They were so beautiful to my eye at that time. For teenager we concern too much on our appearance. Frankly speaking, all the teenagers who go to America or Europe want to be like Paris Hilton. As I grow older my understanding of being a mature woman has changed a lot. I started to understand and could perceive both appearance and brain and heart are important, and not only women but also all the human being should be well balanced in both aspects. Blond beautiful appearance are good but with shallow inside are not respectful.
I think after age 25, I have become disliking shallow white pretty faces and started to be more attached to Asian than western people.
*all the teenage girls who have come to US or Europe from their homeland have some inferiority complex of being Asian and start to grow the feeling of being non-Asian girl, which is impossible><"
Both Asian and western styles have their pros and cons. But it's understandable for teenagers to act first and think later. After all they are at a tender age and are influenced by media and pop culture very easily. And I'm not just talking about Japanese teens, American and European teens too.
HAPPY HALLOWEEN! It's 1:00 AM on the East Coast of the US now, so it's been Halloween for about an hour. Tonight is known as "mischief night", because tonight teenagers go out and throw toilet paper on trees and smash pumpkins.
>>45 Halloween is an excuse for people to dress up as anything they want and get free candy and meet with their friends. It's a fun time, like Christmas but candy instead of presents, and scary decorations. Not nearly as big as Christmas though.
One high school exchange student from Japan was shot to death when he visited neighborhood for trick or treating.
The man who lived in the house said to him "freeze" with rifle in his hand but the student didn't understand what he said and keep getting closer to his house. Then, shot to death.
After this incident, Japanese English education was blamed in that it doesn't teach practical English. Freeze is a basic ward but only the meaning we associated with the word is to change liquid to ice and nobody knows it's used when someone orders someone to stop.
Halloween might be a little bit nicer than Namahage. Only a little bit, though.
What're the subject of“trick”and“treat”? Suppose it were a total imperative sentence, it would be like“(You) trick me or (you) treat me.” 私に悪戯するか私を供応して下さい。
>>52 Wiktionary says: "trick or treat: A form of extortion by which children get candy on Halloween."
That's a little extreme though, lol. It means "I will trick you (悪戯する) if you do not give me candy (the treat)." Of course most of the time children will not actually do anything bad if the person does not have candy.
There is a question in the book that convert positive sentense into interrogative sentense. The sentense of the question is "A flower has a stem." So, I answered "Does a flower have a stem?" However the book said that the answer is "Has a flower stem?"
What a F...
Is the book's answer common or natural or grammatically correct ?
This book is quite old. the first edition of the book is in 1945. Despite the fact, it seemed to be popular among English learner in Japan a decade ago. I don't know whether I should throw it away right now...
>>53 I guess neck is a part of our face. If you look at black guys small face and muscle body, you'll know it. The neck gauges the same width with the face, and the shoulder is very broad. The shape is very very beautiful.
>>61 I know the former one is the present perfect tense. Then latter one is present tense? In that case, I suppose "have" is a verb and not a auxiliary verb.
If "have" is a verb, why doesn't "have" go with auxiliary verb in interrogative sentence and If "have" is a auxiliary verb, where is a verb?
>>53 The face is the part of the body that houses the majority of the sensory organs in the body - eyes, ears, nose, tongue, etc. and, as such, I would not count the neck as part of the face.
>>45 Hallowe'en originates from ancient Celtic festival of Samhain, which marked the end of the 'light' part of the year, and the beginning of the 'dark' part. Kind of a new year. It was believed that the barrier to the Otherworld (world of spirits and the dead) was at its thinnest on this day and that spirits, both good and bad, could slip through to the physical world. People wore costumes as a means of disguising themselves as evil spirits, and so avoid harm from other evil spirits. In addition to this, the spirits of the dead were honoured and paid respect to.
The name Hallowe'en itself comes from a shortening of 'Evening of All Hallows', a Christian festival to honour the saints - intentionally placed over the pagan festival to try and stamp it out, as the Christians did with many of their holidays.
>>58 That kind of sentence structure was pretty common in 1945, and counted as correct. I suppose it's mainly academics who would use it these days, but it's mainly fallen out of common, everyday speech. Would try and explain further, but my (hopefully) delicious 'arroz con pollo' should be finished cooking in the oven by now...
The exchange student wan't trick or treating. He was on the way to a Halloween party and went to the wrong home. The owner of the house said "freeze" but the student thought he said "please" according to the wiki article.
>>67 >not count the neck as part of the face. Yea, I really think so. Why did this scholar say such a thing.
>That kind of sentence structure was pretty common in 1945, and counted as correct Umm, So that sentence structure is correct and becoming obsolete these days. Thanks to your explanation, I was a little bit released from this mess.
I'm going to have meal too and I hope you could have yummy 'arroz con pollo'.
Yesterday, Helloween, was so terrible to me. I give the reasons to you. First, when I arrived at the workplace of my part-time job, Izakaya(Japanese pub, in English)the manager asked me some question about new menu of banquet. In result, I wasn't able to give him correct answers because it's too complex to remenber all. Second, I had to dispose of a (scum)customer's vomit in the rest- room... In the time, I've never done that before. What was a worse, the exit of sink in there was stopped up by the vomit.... How dirty it was! Of course, I had to use a plunger, removing it with my hands wearing vinyl gloves...
Oh, sorry . Then, I think it's Jock itch. Mold like damp and warm place. Don't be shame! To the unexpected matching, some type of mold had grown in my baby's delicate area two days ago , but that mold had been exterminated in a day after I got medical ointment from the hospital in the vicinity. Can you see some little white points around over your delicate area? If you can , it's some mold ,I think.
No, I don't think it's Jock itch or anything but I don't mind having you apply the ointmento to my private area.
Sometimes this kind of thing happens to me and all I have to do is just keep scratching until it doesn't feel itchy anymore. All I have to be careful about is I have to wash my hand before I eat a piece of bread the next morning. After I wake up I often forget scratching my private area the day before and grab a piece of bread and eat it.
But nothing happens even if I forget to wash my hand. No stomachache or anything. All I do is just scream after breakfast, "Oh, I forgot to wash my hands before eating breakfast!"
Peter’s wife was out shopping one day when she saw an adorable little puppy in a pet shop window. Not being able to resist the temptation, she purchased the dog and took it home. As she entered the house, Peter looked up from his newspaper and asked, “What are you doing with that fat gorilla?” “It’s not a gorilla,” said his wife in surprise, “It’s a puppy”. “Shut up,” said Peter, “I'm talking to the puppy.”
>>93 "Has a flower stem?" sounds like you're saying "[Something] has a flower stem?" That's why it's ambiguous. Say "Does a flower have a stem?" But if you really want that extra charisma, I guess you can say "Has a flower a stem?" Then it's not ambiguous and it sounds really pomp and British. But more likely people will ask you to repeat what you said.
>>92(nanashi san) So you said "have you any idea" is more correct than "Have you got any idea" and slightly more formal side. As to "Do you have any idea?", I think that is the most common way to say that. I completely agree with you.
However some questions still remain in my mind. Those questions are >>70. You mean these are informal expressions so that we are allowed to use them even though they have some grammatical errors?
>>97 The word "got" is SUPPOSED to only be used as the past tense of "get"; the perfect tense is "gotten". But many, many english speakers use "got" in situations where it doesn't belong. For example, they say "I gotta go to the bathroom" instead of "I have to/need to go to the bathroom", or "I've got 2 books in my backpack right now" instead of "I have 2 books in my backpack right now". Those expressions are used more by small children or if you're talking very fast and informally. It's good to know them but I wouldn't try using them until you're completely fluent in English, because it can be hard to know when it's correct to use them. Another English lesson brought to you by nanashi-kyoushi!
Kyoshi and sensei means the same indeed, (kyoshi is sounds formal, though) but you don't say "name+kyoshi." You say, "name+sensei." So it should be "nanashi sensei."
>>101 Is that not narcissistic? Or is that ok in that sentence? I've always heard never to call yourself by a title, especially an honourable one. X nanashi先生です。 O nanashiです。
Yes it's narcissistic. You cannot usually call yourself neither name+sensei nor name+kyoushi. But you can use name+sensei when you are joking. (name+kyoushi is seldom or never used) Though I think it is often said in animes...haven't you heard of it? it's like このxx先生に任せなさい
>>70 Ahhh, >>96 is correct - I skipped over the fact that the required article before 'stem' was missing. The arroz con pollo was pretty good, but not my best. Didn't stop me eating a bit too much, though, and feeling lethargic and slovenly afterwards.
Additionally, I don't think there's anything wrong with sounding pomp and British...
>>99 Thank you for your additional lesson. Umm, it would be better I cling to general grammar that is written in learner text books.
>>104 np at all. Thank you for your additional info. I have yet to acquire the ability of understanding those feeling or atmosphere contained in such expressions. So I decided to throw away those nasty questions for the moment.
I also had a good meal last night. I suppose you are skillful in cooking.
A short time ago, I tried to download the screen-sever of Linkin Park by their album, METEORA, I bought with the rest of their albums last month. To do that, I took the trouble to download Quick Time player, but, I wasn't able to do though I tried to do many many time! Instead of it, Internet explorer error appeared. Oh my god... By the way, my computer is Windows7. Propably, it maybe the reason of that.
>>114 If I were you, I would give up using "Quick time". Because, as >>115 said, "Quick time" is really shit. I don't want to contaminate my PC with such fuckin software.
>>116 "What/which musician do you look like?" "I look like Janet Jackson." "What/which musician do you like?" "I like Janet Jackson." But for the last one, I think "Who/what is your favourite musician?" is more common.
>>114 QuickTime is a necessary evil. By the way, use Firefox or Google Chrome. They work much better than IE.
>>121 I do not use iTunes. But some websites use Quicktime so I need the plugin. I do not like Apple much because they are overpriced and very protective of their hardware and software, not letting other people modify it.
>>122 Completely agree. Though... I haven't come across a website requiring Quicktime for at least a year now, so at least it seems to be dying out on the web. Not a huge fan of Apple products in general either, for the reasons you mentioned as well as the way they play the patent game. One thing I do give them credit for, however, is their marketing strategy.
>>108 I'm not that great a cook, but do enjoy cooking. Making spaghetti bolognese tonight. May I ask what meal you had that you enjoyed? I always like new ideas.
Can any of you tell me what DQN is, please? I was looking at the other 2-chan threads that are in Japanese, but I couldn't understand what DQN stood for. Tried to figure, but everybody was talking in sort of jargon, so I had no idea. And those people had been cursing each other, so I was afraid of asking them. I didn't want to be thrown at like "You die, stupid a**hole". But people here seem more plite and decent.
>>126 To the best of my research abilities (which are nothing to sneeze at), DQN stands for ドキュウン (dokyuun), which is the sound of a heart pounding, similar to ドキドキ. Ex. dqn dqn (・・;)
DQN is derived from dokyun, from a TV variety show called 目撃!ドキュン (Mokugeki Dokyun), which was about the lives of delinquents, and so used when someone's saying something really stupid or completely lacking common sense. Something along those lines... a native 2ch'er could probably explain it better...
"DQN" is an internet slang term used to describe an idiotic person who lacks common sense, manner, basic knowledge. etc. etc. According to this article, they get bashed quite often by the people who aspire to but aren't able to be one, or don't have the balls to fight them in real life.
DQN is only used in 2ch, isn't it? Coz I've never heard of it in other places. I've never heard of that in my daily life, in which I often find it here
Now I know what they were talking about. Btw, they always cut up other people pretty brutally, and I got a little uncomfortable just by looking at their comments. I don't get how they could be harsh to other people...
I guess it's quite normal here, so nobody care. But it made me wonder that's real Japanese's charactaristics, deep down.
>>135 Sometimes I see "DQN" in other sites and hear in daily life. Thus the thought "DQN" is only used in 2ch is wrong. However it's no doubt 2ch has contributed to popularity of that word.
>>141 That's 2ch's manners and not signifying general Japanese's characteristics. However in a way, that behavior shows our instinct lurked in our mind. These kind of things are commonplaces no matter where you live, aren't it? If you can't get used to 2ch's atmosphere, I recommend you to leave here before you are disgusted.
>>125 I had traditional Japanese foods that night. Those were "いくら丼", "冬瓜汁" and "日本酒". "いくら丼" is the rice served in a bowl and put salmon roe on it. "冬瓜汁" is the soup made from soy sauce base. "冬瓜" is a kind of gourds. We usually put chicken, sliced shiitake mushroom and of course "Tougan(冬瓜)" in the soup. "日本酒" is, as you know, "sake".
>>141 I don't think it is normal at all. More like caged animals. The people who make cruel remarks are really wounded people themselves. They run huge complexes inside. They don't know how to handle their anger and make good use of it. Their motivation circuits have blown off, so all they can do is attack others.
>>146 You are misunderstanding this bulletin boards. 2ch is not ordinary bulletin boards. That's not so big thing as what you said. Therefore what >>145 said is nothing more than greetings. However some poor people take that seriously and begin to blame others. Then people who know that is 2ch's manners laugh at those responses or pour oil on the fire on purpose.
>>118 and >>119 I see. I've removed QuickTime a short time ago. I decided to give up the screen-sever of Linkin Park...
By the way, I bought new contact lens yesterday. My right eyesight is about 1.2 and left is about 1.0 by these! Now, I enjoy seeing everything clearly. But, the span of con- tact lens is about 2years. When the time comes, I must go to eye doctor at first and pay about 20000 yen for new contact lens. It's so troublesome! So, I do want to be operated on for lasik surgery someday. Now, Here one question to person who was operated on for it. How do you feel about your oparated eyes?
I'm actually thinking about getting contacts. Hopefully, if it's not too pricey. I am just curious to try them and they do seem more convenient than glasses at times aside from them being hard to find if you lose them.
In the past I had a few persistent users attack me because I love Johnny's Entertainment. But it seems my reslience has paid off; we Janiota are welcome here, as long as we act "stupid".
Attack? Looked like it was just a trivial part of learning English with fun and games. Pretty sure your perpetual sweaty sugar daddy >>1 will be Batman and come rescue your butt again, though.
>>153 >I was not referring to >>145 in particular. My bad. I knew that. I should have added the words "for example". However this don't have an effect on what I said.
I think you are getting used to handling those issues these days. Think wisely.
>>154 Are you talking to me? I don't need anyone saving me, thank you. I can look after my own "body parts". >>155 they are the evangelists of Japanese entertainment to the world. More like ambassadors in this changing world.
>>151-152 I wear glasses sometimes and contacts sometimes. The contacts are better, because they are clearer and have a wider range of vision but you have to be used to touching your eyes to put them in and take them out. My mother got Lasik surgery many years ago. She had to wear goggles and not look at light for a few days, then her vision was much better. But after many years it wore off and now her vision is not very good again. So I think it doesn't last forever but it will last a long time and you won't have to put in contacts anymore.
>>143 Ahh, a very different kind of food to what is usually served up here. 冬瓜 isn't often seen here, though many other types of gourd are - just so you know, 冬瓜 is known as a Winter Melon here. I've never had actual ikuradon, but have had fried rice with salmon roe, I suppose a dish modified to suit the typical western palate. The soup sounds delicious enough to attempt with local ingredients...
Uni still remains my favourite.
Thank you for the pictures, though your explanation was understandable enough.
>>169 After you get surgery, they give you something to put on your eyes so that you don't see light, and you have to wear it for a few days. If you look at something too bright, it could hurt your eyes until they fully heal. You will have perfect vision for a while, but after some years (I forget how many) it will wear off. But you won't have to buy and wear glasses or contacts. So it's up to what you want to do.
Last week, you guys bombarded us with Halloween comments.
Today, I thought I'll lecture you on Culture Day, national holiday on November 3rd but I don't even know the origin of the day.
All I can tell you is that it's very beautiful day with sunshine and warm temperature but I satyed home glued to my PC doing nothing special. Maybe going to musium, theater would be the best way to appreciate culture day.
about the origin of hallowen. A day that devils come back to this world from the hell. this is what i learned in English class. in my opinion. these days are turning point. tempreture. season. a lot of things are changed. so people easily become a sick. i think that old people thought that the sickness was brought by devils. so devils day.
Such thoughts are none other than stereotypes created by human kind. I don't know whether Devils are good or bad for us even if they are exist. I would like to have a conversation with them if I could.
there are some similar culture in japan too. for example. the setubun. its a season when winter become spring. it is said that evil souls bring sickness at setubun. so people eat soy-beans to get strength.
I'm an American living in Japan, studying at 東北大学. I am currently studying Japanese for most of the day every day, but it's cool to see that so many people are studying English. Keep up the good work fellas, and if you have any questions just ask me.
>>193 Tohoku uni is the best uni in Tohoku Region. If your American uni is in partnership with Tohoku uni, your American uni must be good uni, too because when two uni becomes partnership, the level of the two unis are the same in respective countries.
Tohoku is very cold with lots of snow in winter so be prepared if you are from a warm staes in US, like Florida.
Yeah, I'm from California, and it is already pretty damn cold. It's like under 50 fahrenheit already! I heard it's supposed to snow next week too... But it's cool man. Lots of opportunities to study Japanese, and lots of people are really cool. Also, I am from Penn State University in America.
>>199 Wow! That's one of the Ivy league unis! If you live different side of the continent, it must be tough to go back to your home town in Christmas and all, all the way from East coast to West coast. And now you're in Japan so even more difficult to go back to your home town.
>>196 Sea urchin is something that looks eerie to people from overseas. It's only Japanese people like us who think it's facy food used as a topping for sushi.
>>200 You must be thinking of UPenn. Penn State is the state university of Pennsylvania (I would know). I almost went there myself. Also, interestingly, the name of my American university in Japanese is 東北大学. And apparently it's the same exact temperature here :)
My university has study-abroads in 明治大学 and 桜美林大学. Anyone know about them?
>>191 Are you the gloved hitwoman mania from many threads ago?
>>196, >>201 I must admit that my first encounter with uni was completely accidental. It wasn't until later that I discovered what it actually was. When I tell people over here the story of how I came to eat sea urchin gonads, they usually respond with either disgust or morbid curiosity. That doesn't change the fact that it was delicious.
>>202 Ahh... So they are two different unis although they include Penn in their name.
明治 uni is a lot better than 桜美林 uni, so if you choose either of them, I'd recommend the former. Both of them are private unis while 東北大学 is a national university.
Japan is aging and population of 18 years olds are decreasing and some of the private unis in Japan can't gather students and some went red and some are eliminated. I'd say 桜美林 uni is that kind of uni while 明治 is pretty well known uni nationwide and don't have to worry too much about the decline of the number of students.
>>193 cool, my uni (Hamburg University of Technology in Germany) has a partnership with 東北大学 too, as well as with the 大阪工業大学 if I remember correctly。 And I like cold weather, so that's actually a plus in my eyes (not sure if I could take 大阪、 I hear it gets pretty hot there). I'm about as poor as you can be in this country without being homeless though, so I don't think I could financially afford studying there, unless I qualify for some sort of scholarship, if there even are any.
東北大学 and 大阪工業大学 are at the complete opposite ends. The former is an elite university and the latter is a DQN university.
The former is a national university and the latter is a private university so tuition is far less expensive in the former.
I think in US and UK, private universities are considred to be better than publick universities such as a state university. Ivy leagues and Stanford, Oxford, Kenbridge are all private universities.
But in Japan, it's considered that national univerisities are considered to be better than private universities. Except two private universities, Waseda uni and Keio uni. These two are private universities but considered to be very good.
明治 uni is second best groups of private universities. It's in Tokyo so quite popular.
I used to work out but i wasnt buff, just fit, slim athletic build. But who knows how long its been since i last pumped iron. So i weigh less now since my muscle is kind of gone.
It seems like asian girls tend to like men who are skinny and girly. Or maybe just teenagers do. So men with great builds will shy away asian girls? Correct me if i wrong.
I agree completely with >216. Americans don't know how to limit themselves, whether it's food, weightlifting, alcohol...
That's why diet plans, gym memberships, and cheap beer/Alcoholics Anonymous are so popular here, even though those things rarely work, or they go too far and people get anorexic, too muscular, or religious. America is the land of false hope, if you ask me. Everyone is living hoping that society will decide everything for them.
>>212 Heh, interesting. Maybe that's why my university ended their partnership with 大阪工業大学. I just checked and they're not listed as partner university anymore, but they definitely were back when I was in my first semester. By the way, did you write all that from the top of your head? I barely know anything about what kind of reputation German universities and research institutes have, apart from the ones in my city and some very prolific ones like the Max Planck Society or the ones in Darmstadt.
I would say that this is an exactly correct description of most people in America. I personally used to lift weights when I played Rugby but stopped when I started studying computers.
>>228 >By the way, did you write all that from the top of your head?
Yes. People who took/take Japanese entrance exams know which uni is easy to enter(=DQN uni) and which uni is hard to enter(Elite uni).
There's a virually ranking for Japanese universities with Tokyo university at the top of the ranking, This ranking isn't official ranking, though. It's made by major cram schools chains in Japan.
There are a couple of major cram school chains in Japan and they release their own rankings. The order of universitiers in each rankings are very similar.
People who want to pass an university entrance uni has to decide which uni's entrance exam they should take to pass it. That's when the rankings are needed. You can take an entrance exam that matched your academic achievement.
>>238 Bad breath doesn't matter as long as we cherish each other, doesn't it? Even if I hadn't brushed my teeth since the end of summer, our friendship/love would make my breath smell like pepper mint.
>>242 Do you live near Waseda's campus? Or you are a Waseda student. His official data shows he's 175cm but I think he's shorter than that. What do you think?
>>251 Sometimes... as long as they're not completely obsessed with it it shouldn't be a problem. Even if they are, why would that be a problem? I have a (male) friend who likes shoujo anime and it's never been a problem for him.
>>258 I can move my chest muscles. When I wear a T-shirt in summer girls eyes are glued to my body. Some girls don't like muscles but some really love men's muscle. In the latter's case, girls eyes on the street appeal to me "Hug me tight."
While their eyes appeal that, if I hugged them on the street, I'd be sent to jail.
>>261 If by "big" you mean "obese", then yes. Maybe I give America too little credit though. In most cities, especially in the North, there aren't that many fat people. In my university there are very few. But go out to the suburbs and the rural areas and you'll find plenty of them. Also, Disneyworld here is infamous for the huge numbers of fat people that go to it. I find it ironic because many of them don't fit on the rides.
Most of the really buff people are uni students or just out of uni (not 海栗).
"We launched Places to let you share where you are with your friends and see who's nearby. Now with Deals, you also can see what offers are nearby and share those deals with your friends.
Finding deals near you is easy. On touch.facebook.com or the latest version of Facebook for iPhone, touch "Places" and then touch "Check In." Nearby Places with deals have a yellow icon:
These deals come from merchants, not Facebook, so check with your local stores for additional details, such as when they're running, how many of the offers are available, and whether a deal is just for you or also for your friends." ------------------ In the third paragraph, there's this phrase, "when they're running," Does this mean opening hours of the shops or the time frame when they provide the deals? Thank you!
there is no job for uni students who will graduate uni this year in japan. they will be all NEET. millions. hello-work can't hear you. looks like being dead.
hmmm, I thought "noko" is a Japanese girl who goes to high school but it turned out she is native speaker who came from L.A. somehow I feel she has a high school girl's atmoshpere. whether she is high school girl or university student is mystery.
Dear Eric: In Tohoku, winter comes soon. Take the best care of yourself. Japanese or asian girls& ladies look very pretty and beautiful. Most of them are good to you. But I have to say, be careful against "Black-leather-gloved Hitwoman!"
They are very beautiful, very good at pretending to be nice one. They are always searching victims with whom they will train "Killing- Technique", such as Handsmothering to death...
It wasn't a picking. That was... just stupid of me,to tell the truth. I was sitting on the train and a girl asked me to lend her my phone. I hasitated a litte, but tried to be nice then let her use it. She was calling someone (was actually only pretending though), but suddenly begun to get closer and closer to one of the doors. so I started to be skeptical and said "Hey, what are you doing?" and at a moment I was about to grab her in the sholder, the door opened and she stormed out of the car with my phone. I run at my full speed and finally caught her, and wrestled for my phone, but she punched me, threw me down on the platform graund, and run away. A nice guy called up police and cops came, and one of the people who had been just watching all the incident said the girl might have thrown it away from the platform (the platform was elevated). So we looked for the phone and I found it, but it was already completely broken. Now I've lost all the contact info. And all over my body hurts.
Yes, I'm female. And I live overseas. So things are a bit different than Japnan. I didn't know why she tried to steal either, because it was obvious that my iphone was old (3G). So I thought it was already worthless, but the cops later told me that those people sell iphone on line for at least $100. The monthly charge of the carrier which carries iphone is kind of expensive, so some people who cannot afford remodel the inside and use it with another phone company. Apple doesn't sell iphone without a contract with that specific company for $199, they offer iphone for $499(maybe) without the contract. So those people still value already-activated-iphones even if they were very old.
in japan. cell phone doesnt function without contract. but in overseas. cell phone does funtion with small IC chip. so its meaningless if someone try to steal cell phone in japan.
>>314 I've heard that NTTdocomo or some other carriers will start to sell iphone, too. I think some of the other companies here also will do the same thing. I don't really care if those companies join in the iphone market, but no more robbery like this!! I'm really, really hurt. When she put me down on the ground, I hit my right shoulder very hard. Now I have big bruises on my knees, too. This was the first time ever I literaly faught with a person. I had neveer slapped someone or been punched by someone in my life.
japan is a crazy nation. people are brainwashed that jobless people are jobless because of their own resposibility. so 1 or 2 homelesses are killed by DQN per year. and japanese homelsesses are very polite and kind and harmless. i know this is quiet strenge society for Europe or USA.
>>316 My mom slapped my butt as a decipline often when I did something bad as a kid. She slapped my face, too. I remeber she was furious and hysteric when slapping me. I remembert I screamed "I'm sorry, I'm sorry" thousands times. Sometimes looking back, I think that was almost the same as child abuse. Deep down I might be scared of women because of those experiences as a kid. That might be the reason why I havgen't gone out with a girl even though I'm GORGEOUS.
I understand how you are emotionally and physically hurt faced with such an unexpected thing. You have always sympathetic ears here...
You have two choices now, either you won't never lend your phone to a total stranger or you start practicing Karate.
Fifth of November. Tonight we celebrate the attempted bombing of the Houses of Parliament and attempted assassination of the king in 1604. As always, there will be huge bonfires and many fireworks, all watched by thousands of people wandering around muddy parks, fields and gardens.
Sometimes children wheel an effigy of Guy Fawkes around in a wheelbarrow and go from door to door asking for a "penny for the Guy". Not really sure why.
>>327 Most local authorities arrange the celebrations on the Saturday nearest to the fifth of November, so I'll probably be taking photographs at the local park. But before the evening, it's just a normal day for everyone.
>>321 I'll never, ever, lend my phone to any strangers from this time on. I thought I was still too naive to survive in this individualistic land. Afeter it happened, when I opened my apt's door, I got unbearably homesick. I've never missed Japan more than last night in these years. It's not the physical pain that I'm irritated by, but the mental dissapointment that I feel the most distress at. Japan is such a safe, clean and peaceful place to live in. People are much more moralistic there. Some people think Japan is one of the most conservative countries, and yes, it's true. But I think what the most precious thing when it comes down to choose where you settle down is that you can act as a mature, respected person in anywhere, any kind of situations to feel always free and comfortqble. Not that I'm saying the town I live in now is bad, though.
some people say that expression 'suit yourself' is only used for expressing negative feeling. however it seems like that this expression is also used for favorable situations sometimes. in that case, I suppose that depend on a situation or a way of saying. are both of usage correct?
>329 In the future you might write an essay about your studying abroad experience. The incident serves you a good story to tell to people who'd like to study abroad in the future.
I just made a chat room for English. This chat service is really fast and can display images. No registration, no password. No moderator (your post can't be deleted, so be carefull!)
Today is bad day to me... Because, in this morning(a short time ago), I switched on my CD Compo to listen to the music, and then I wanted to turn down the volume and pushed the button. A terrible thing came down on me, the button was collapsed! What was a worse, my CD Com- po won't work. I tried many many times, but it was in vain after all...Oh my god... I have to buy new one by my money from my ordinary poor acount...orz
"Communicating in 140-character segments may seem to contradict the goals of generally long-winded academia, but a new study has found that the two are less opposed than one might think. Students in the study who were asked to contribute to class discussions and complete assignments using Twitter increased their engagement over a semester more than twice as much as a control group." -------------------------- Would you explain about "the goals of generally long-winded academia"? What I don't understand is "long-winded academia" part. Thanks a zillion!
>>323 Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, anished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, tands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent ermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and oracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a endetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of uch shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, his vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add hat it is my very good honour to meet you and you may call me V.
>>342 "Long-winded" means verbose, or really long text or speech. "Academia" is anything that has to do with school. So, "long-winded academia" is like professors that lecture for hours or papers that go on for pages and pages.
>>343 I just noticed that in spacing it it cut off the first letters...
Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. (he carves a "V" into a sign) The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. (giggles) Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it is my very good honour to meet you and you may call me V.
>>344 Most native speakers do not know many of those words.
>>341 Yeah, you're right. But, a short time ago, my father fixed my CD COMPO! The fixing enables it to length the limitation of use. Thank you my father!
>>329 Yeah, looking always on the positive side of things makes you a happier person. I usually tend to be negative, this is one of my bad habits. I went to Apple store and bought a new iphone a bit while ago, and takled to a Japanese lady who was working there about what happened to me in Japanese, so that I could relieve very much of the stress I had. I've learned a lot of things from this happening, so now I'm ok. Thank you so much for sharing my experience.
"Students in the study who were asked to contribute to class discussions and complete assignments using Twitter (Twitter) increased their engagement over a semester more than twice as much as a control group."
One more question about this article. What does "engagement" mean? Is the way students actively participate in class or discussions? The way students are eager to study hard? high motivation?
I smell sour. I didn't even recognized it before but now I know Futon I was in smell sour. and When I'm typing like this, something sour smells. Now I realize this is what's called "Oyaji-shu."
options that you can write in email(メール) box. when write "sage" in it, thread will not change its position of the board list. when otherwise, thread will become a top of the board list. its called "age". in polite manner of 2ch, you should use "sage". otherwise, you will be DQN.
Since this is a chat thread, however, there's no problem if you want to bump the thread to notify people that you are in. Also, this is a DQN thread where you can write whatever you want to, so it doesn't really apply here.
Ususally, DQNs are too DQN to see what they are doing themselves, and that's what makes them DQN; therefore they could provide unfailing amusement to other people. I love DQNs.
atleast the USA has politicians who try to protect their shape of the country. its misery since DPJ(anti-japan terrorist) taked over japan. since LDP think about only own money. since people are thinking the reason of recession is jobless people like NEET. this country will be ruin without doubt.
"there is no job offer because jobless people do nothing" do you know how stupid this idea is? why people can't understand this extream simple wrong. no job offer is a worker's responsibility.
If you don't type anything in Email field then post, which means age, then the thread rise to the top of the list, which means the thread stands out. (A thread is "age"ed when nothing is typed in the Email field or something except "sage" is typed.)
There are variouis reasons to sage and age. As I said, if "age"ed, the thread rises to the top, hence it stands out. That's useful when the thread isn't lively and you want draw more people to the thread to make it busy and induce lively discussion. The flip side of the coin for that is that there're more possibilities that trolls would come to the thread becasue it was "age"ed and draw more attentions.
When "sage"ed, its effect is just the opposite of when "age"ed. It stays the place as it is now. Or rather, as the other threads are "age"ed, it's place in the list is relatively go down, hence, it draws less attention and prevents trolls from coming in. This is good when a thread already draws enough amount of posts regulary and people there don't want to attract newcomers, trolls for that matter, to the thread.
Regarding this thread, I'd say it doesn't matter if you age or sage. I prefer "sage" this thread because I don't want to trolls come in, but just my opinion and I don't mind anyone who "age" this thread.
Son weird Japanese mofo keeps tellin me "bastard" means people who have mixed blood, such as mom being a Japanese and father being an American, even if they're married. Isn't that messed up? Never heard of "bastard" being used like that.
i dont have any thoughts for white half or black half or asian half. except crazy bastard korean half. if papa or mama is korean, its bastard without doubt.
as a matter of fact. criminal's child would make a lot of problem. I dont know the reason of it. family trade? education? culture? I have no idea though. I know that its exist.
There is an expression like 濃い顔, Koi kao (thick face) in Japanese, which means the face like westernized look. It is probably good looking but not always so. THe opposite expression, 薄い顔 usui kao is the flat face, which is more like Asian look, which is not as craggy as western face but it doesn’t always mean ugly face. But can you think of any good expression of these in English? Koi kao and usui kao?
>>406 That's not what 'bastard' generally means. A bastard is someone who was born to unmarried parents. The term comes from old French, 'fils de bast', which translates to something like 'a packsaddle son', or someone who was conceived on a makeshift bed.
However, the term is also sometimes used for a biological cross between different species or groups, but not really used in the case of humans.
A derogatory term for someone of mixed ethnicity is 'half-caste'.
>>417 Thanks a bunch, I was pretty sure that would be accurate, but the racist Japanese git was making a huge fuss about how I have no clue what I'm talking about, and that I probably can't speak English, etc.
I asked the idiot to come here to talk with real English speakers, but just as I thought I don't see him around...
gypsys are criminals. their child will good criminal. thats a fact. Im not talking about skin color or blood. Im talking about a obviously situation that entire group blongs to crime. which most koreans who lives in japan are. I dont think its racism at all.
427 :self-proclaimed English specialist:2010/11/07(日) 15:13:42
>>424 hey im here. look, actually i dont give a shit about what "bastard" means. i just wanted to say to you "bastard".
>>427 You're a real bastard you cocksucking son of a gun. Nobody in their sane mind would use "bastard" in the context you described. Go back to Nova or Geos or whatever smelly crotch of a school you picked up your Engrish you micro-penis tit.
Hello everyone! I wanna tell you the truth about the news that appearing of the movies related to the problem of Senkaku island on You Tube. The contributor, sengoku38 is me. I wanted Japanese feeble government to tackle the problem seriously. But, in reality, they didn't do. Instead of that, they are looking for me as a criminal! I'm very sad...
Now, everyone, how do you think about this lie of mine for next April fool? (My lie is that sengoku38 is me, but a part of the lie that I'm very sad to the Japan feeble Government's countermeasure is truth.)
Japanese government will find this thread and your post and hunt you down. Run to a different country while you have the chance. Maybe UK, USA, Canada, or Australia so you can improve your English.
Jackie said "the dictatorship is needed for China. because Chinese are barbarians. they cant control themselfs when they got free rights." I agree with him.
Do you know that one Alpaka is a talk of Japanese Twittersphere? He's a metro sexula Alpaka and resembles Japanese actor "Joe Odagiri." The Alpaka has so cool and avant-garde hairstyle the he could even be on the cover of a fashion magazine.
I almost laughed to death when I first saw the Alpaka's photo.
Police make murder to suicide or just accident. because they dont want to find a criminal. its hard job for them. and basic job of police though. they dont care. 30,000 suicide. 100,000 unknown deathes. only tens murder. this country is very mad place. if you realized that the meaning of this number, you might want to scream.
when Horiemon(I think he is con man) was arrested, his right hand commited suicide at the room of hotel. at least police said so. by cutting his body a lot. everyone know its murder. but police was stronger than public opinion. in another words. japan is one of the shape of dictatorship.
and recently. famous police journalist commited suicide. at least police said so. he revealed many secrets of police to public.
the last job that journalist treated to was a strange murder event. how strange? victim was a high school girl. police anounced a suspect to public. but that suspect accused police man before that in blackmailing by police. police says that there is no accusing to police because there is no accuser. and that accuser became a murder suspect after that. and is chased by police. suspect/accuser was just disapeared.
>>464 The accent's really hard to place... it sounds more colonial than anything else, with tones of Irish. At times, she sounds like an Irish person trying to emulate received pronunciation, and at other times her accent takes on a quality similar to British raised in, say, India.
>>467 I wouldn't say she's actually from India, but perhaps one or both of her parents were in the Foreign Service and posted somewhere overseas. It's possible to pick up parts of both the local accent and whatever accent may be dominant at school - which, in her case, would probably have been a school run by the British Embassy. All speculation, though. Could also be why she's involved in a parliamentary debate society.
>>468 wowwow! I am so much impressed by your analysis. I am a bit close to the person who have grown up in the border, but your response made me think you are truly the person who has grown up the border between various countries.
I showed the same youtube to others. One guy said she might be Dutch but her English is really good, therefore she might have lived in England for a while? maybe.
>>474 Not a particular god. Of course, you can refer to any one of 八百万の神, millions of gods and goddesses. It is because there is no absolute deity in Shintoism. Interestingly, even demons and monster-sprits, such as Tengu, are regarded as equally divine and sacred.
Which is more popular, Shintoism or Buddhism, in your opinions? And what do you think of them? I want to know how Japan's thought on religion compares to America's.
>>474 you can choise god who you like. everything is god. fish. house, your pc. 2ch. me. can be god. what you believe is important. and treat them nicely once you believed it. there are a lot of shinto shrine in japan. each shrine have own unique god. you can choise shrine where you like.
No such thing as "which is popular." Most Japanese follow both Shinto and Buddhism, with a dash of Confucianism and some superficial Christianity thrown in there, and Daoist influences as well. People don't see much of a need to stick to one religion like Americans do.
as >>482 says Most Japanese don't differentiate Shintoism between Buddhism. of course we know the differences. (神仏習合 or 本地垂迹) So it is difficult to know clearly which is more popular but personally I like Shinto better because it's peculiar to Japan.
Japanese naturally believe that every thing have soul and thoughts. but nobody remember who taught it. shonto doesnt have document. but exist. some Japanese feel sorry when their PC was broken. some Japanese give a name to PC. such thing is shinto.
Extraordinary. Christianity in contrast feels so constraining because... it is. In Catholicism you have to do everything the church says to do, or else you go to hell. In Protestantism there is freedom to choose how you interpret the Bible and worship God, but many people find this confusing, and some churches are even stricter than Catholic ones.
That is why I am agnostic. But America's leaders have to be Christian or else people will hate them. Sometimes we get people who are too religious for their own good as our leaders.
>>435 Oh, are you kidding? If so, I'll apologize for them seriously...
By the way, I have a trouble. I'll tell you about it now. In 23 Nov, national holiday, labor thanksgiving day in Japan, I have to go to a reception party for newcomer including me in my part-time workplace. And then the seniors whom I dis- like in the point of their character may come to there. So, what should I do in this party? All I have to do is talk some thing with them at random? If not, I'll drink and eat some food silently until the end of the party...
Confucianism is probably similar to what the Bible tells you to do, though it's not exactly a religion. It's a set of stories with ethical guidelines and moralistic overtones. Personally, I'm not intersted in Buddhism, especially as an organized religion, as so many monks are just materialistic and wear a Rolex, drive a Mercedes, etc.
they worship white. because they worship japan. because white defeated greatest country in east asia once. they thrilled. and they thought that if they can become like white, they can beat japan someday.
korea imported budhism once. basicaly. in budhism. the killing is prohibited. but korea was in the next of evil china. so king of korea changed it. they accepted killing for protection. but it was annnoy to china. finally. korea becamse slave of china. so china prohibited their budhism. by order of korean king. since then. they destroyed anything of budhism in korea. temple. book. statue. everything.
fanally. they got a hallucination for the day. that "japan destroyed all budhism things of korea while they rule korea"
koreans are worshiping white people. they want to be like white as much as possible. so they converted to christianity. they hyped by doing so. by the way, christianity is now booming china as well. Chinese also worshiping white people.
yes. korea was kingdom. and when japan rule their. their royal family joined to japanese emperor. but after war. they hate it. finally. they destroyed royal family.
ok lets boycott samsung erectronics then. i can't believe some japanese actually buy samsung products. you dont want a tv with "samsung" on it sit around in your room. do you? LG's logo is pretty uncool too. that face logo.
Evangelical Christianity is huge in Korea - the kind of Christianity my former employers used to take part in. And part of the reason I left that job. They were similar to cult members.
Korea ended up being Christian largely because of efforts by US missionaries in the mid 19th century. Before that efforts to proselytize within Korea was basically forbidden.
However, even strict Christians in Korea today are also heavily influenced with Confucianism. They take filial piety to the extreme.
There seems to be a direct connection between faith and ignorance. People with a higher level of education tend to ignore religion because they don't need any fairy stories to understand how the universe works.
>>509 so Japan there is larger than all of North America combined, hehe.
I think >511 would be something most Americans would strongly deny, even though it's proven by science. >509 is probably the best explanation of why that is.
for example. there are 2 big theory of human evolution. 1. all human races are descendant of Cro-Magnon man 2, several kinds of human races have evolved individually. the point of this different 2 theory is "Caucasian is a descendant of Neanderthal?" Neanderthal is known as lower intelligent kind of human race. both these 2 theory are not truth. these are result of the plitical thoughts.
an atheist is a person who does not beileve in God. You cannot "believe" in science, because it is not a religion. It is basically a tool to think. In science you make a hypothesis and use universally robust methods to see if reality matches your assumptions. You can prove or disprove theories and it goes on forever. You can't do that with religions. Religion is basically dogma you have to believe in. There is no way you can run experiments in religion.
It's interesting how this map is very similar to >509 except for the US. Why is the US so successful? It's the only country that does not follow the pattern.
>>516 but there is an idle time until prove or disprove. scientist can wait it on purpose. they do it with their subconscious as a result. pliticaly science is made.
>>516 Atheism is the belief in the nonexistance of a God. Agnosticism is the lack of belief. That is why I'm agnostic, because there is no way in science to prove whether or not there is a God. But since God clearly does not affect my life if he exists, I can live my life based on the ideals of the atheist and it won't make a difference. I have better things to do than worship a God who does nothing for me.
My former employers believe that Neanderthals were the offspring of some of God's early humans and the fallen angels. Of course, they also believe that this all happened within the last six thousand years, too, as that's how old the universe is.
"Neanderthal is lower intelligent" even this part became wrong part recently. scientist who researched Neanderthal borns said this in old time. the fact is he fablicated many evidence for some reason. this is science.
Yeah, I read recent research on Neanderthal bones, DNA, etc which said they had a larger brain and could have been more intelligent than the Cro-Magnons.
I once spoke with a local person who told me Asians evolved from orangutangs, caucasians evolved from chimanzees, and africans evolved from gorillas. I was like, wtf
There is something more ancient than religion: the art of deception. Some primates realised that some members of their group were extremely gullible. So they devised ways of cheating them out of food, territory etc. The art of deception evolved to such proportions that some humans can manipulate others through fabricated lies. Politics and religion might have evolved as a result of that. There are two parties: the clever one who manipulates, and the masses who follow. Science as you say is not free of politics either.
I guess "Yukorin enthusiasts" in >>1 are crying and crying. For Igirisu-jin, this also is a shocking news followed by Hirosue's marriage the other day. I think he needs to take one week vacation on tropical island to heal his broken heart.
Asian people look young and on western standards. "Yukorin" looks like a teenager, I guess. People in show business tend to look young but Yukorin especially look younger than her age. The hairartist looks young, too.
He came to Japan, which is common for pro wrestling world, and fought with a Japanese wrestler and it was broadcast nationwide. In the match he bled badly. The announcer on TV shouted, being excited, "Bobo is bleeding! Bobo is bleeding!" a number of times during the match.
While people all over Japan were enjoying the match on TV, people in Kyushu region blushed everytime he screamed, imagining pussy is bleeding because of period...
In kansai region, pussy is called オメコ. There's an artist called "Stacie Orrico."
If you write ステーシー・オリコ as it is, you don't feel anything. FUnny thing is that if you write like this, ステーシーオ◯コ, all of the sudden it looks vulgar, becasue your brain automatically, insert メin ◯.
And one more. I'm looking for a English discussion board outside Japan, which I can talk about various issues (mainly political) with other people. Do you know any?
>>571 I am American, Igirisujin is (surprisingly) British, and I've seen others from the US and one person from Chile and KG2ch who I don't know where she's from.
English discussion board... you can try 4chan but there are some really bad areas there. Try searching Google for a forum about what you want to talk about. There are a million.
>>573 Thanks. I've heard of 4chan before. I'm sure it has 'bad' areas just like 2ch here. Where are you now? I mean, are you writing what you are writing in Japan?
An artist asked the gallery owner if there had been any interest in his paintings on display at that time. "I have good news and bad news," the owner replied. "The good news is that a gentleman enquired about your work and wondered if it would appreciate in value after your death. When I told him it would, he bought all 15 of your paintings." "That's wonderful," the artist exclaimed. "What's the bad news?" "The customer was your doctor..."
>>589 That is called "word collocation". Ex. you can say "talk about" but not "discuss about". There is not really a reason for that, you just learn it over time. If you say "discuss about", we will know what you're saying. If we hear that you have an accent we will usually ignore errors like that when listening to you.
>>581-583 Thank you, I will try those. Also, if I go to Japan I get a JR pass for a day to go anywhere I want. Where should I go and why?
>>592 If you want to set your travel base in Hokkaido, I suppose it's difficult to go to outside of Hokkaido. The point is what you want to do and to see. Needless to say, where you want to go to.
for example, if you stay at Kyoto or Osaka, you can visit Tokyo, Hiroshima by using Shinkansen as a day's trip.
in the case of buying it at grocery store, we can get it for about 400 yen. there may be 5 piece of sushi in a pack. however it tend to low quality unless the grocery store has good reputation for quality of fish. so it's not recommendable to people who is not familiar with reputation although you can get good one for cheap price. in view of this fact, we can't recommend you to go to "回転すし". they provide really terrible one in quality. sometimes the quality of "回転すし" is far more terrible than grocery store's. fortunately, the price of salmon sushi is not so expensive. so you can get it at authentic sushi shop for reasonable price. (notice : it's only my opinion and they say some authentic sushi shops don't have salmon in their menu.) therefore it's worth considering visiting those authentic shop if you can get a person such as tour guide or someone fluent in Japanese.
>>560 A hair artist? A candle artist? Wonder what'll come next... a spoon artist? An uni artist?? Anyway, I had no idea Yukorin was 27 already. Of course, I suppose most of her photos are very airbrushed, which is why the photo on the article makes her look her age. Not that I've seen many photos of her.
Now I have to work out what to do on Monday. About a month ago, some Russian girl started talking to me, and now she wants to go out for a meal on Monday. However, we've never actually met, even though she lives locally. This situation feels pretty strange...
>>599 Last time Sparky posted his photo here, it was possible to go into the directory view and see all the other photos. That was a scary night.
But yes, she somehow found me on the internet. Know what she looks like, but no idea how she sounds. It's also a bit awkward because she now has the same teachers as I did about nine years ago.
An American English teacher was arrested because of child porn. he managed English school for child since 20 years ago. he took naked picture and videos of child students for tens of years. which means many victims. media concealed his name and school location because victims are little children.
"Prior to the invention of the postage stamp, mail was sent to be paid on delivery. Recipients were at liberty to reject mail, and cunning writers were able to communicate simple messages just from the layout of the address."
What does the "layout of the address" exactly mean? Thanks!
>>600 It's either Russia is drawn to you or you draw Russia from the fact that you get aquanted with Russian again followed by the woman in the train. While you are with her, you can ask us for your next move. That would be "Train man part2" directed by Takeshi Kitano.
>>626 Hopefully I won't take a sip of a drink, then wake up several hours later with a kidney missing.
>>616 We'll see how it goes... just got an email from the train girl last night, telling me all about her life and where she and her husband are planning to travel to.
This one wasn't from Omegle... she's from VKontakte. Facebook hasn't really taken off in Russia, so their biggest social network is ВКонтакте.
>>615 The layout of the address would just be the format in which the address is written, such as
Mr D Cameron, 10 Downing Street, Westminster, London, SW1A 2AA
...however, that address isn't cleverly laid out.
>>617 A cunning writer is someone able to write things cleverly. In that context, to be able to arrange things to, perhaps, make a code or hide a message.
I thought 4chan is underground and not many people except American Otaku know about but one of the 40 influential website? It's actually a mainstream it seems.
Ahh, I mistook 4chan for 4ch. I have never been 4chan. Now that I heard your comment, I think it's worth visiting.
In this week, I attempted to find a free online mahjong site in oversea but I couldn't find it at all. All of the sites I found are not authentic mahjong but some kind of matching game like "Shanghai".
This brought home to me how unpopular mahjong is in foreign countries.
>>642 Yea, there are many online mahjong sites in Japan. However I want to play it in English. Therefore there are two options. Play in English at Japanese site or play at oversea site. It seems not so easy as I thought. In former case, we need private room at least to play with someone who understand play it in English.
In any case, I don't want to pay any kind of fee except for cost of package software. If there were some good online game for free, that could rescue me from boredom.
>>641,643 I have never been able to find authentic mahjongg on any English website. Mahjongg Solitaire (Shanghai) is fairly popular here but it is an American invention. I want to play Mahjongg against a computer.
Hey so does anybody have any more recommendations of where to go with my JR pass?
>>644 There are many Mahjong video games in Japan that you can play against a computer. I don't know whether there is a game which can play in English.
However there are many Hentai Mahjong games which you will be interested in. So I suppose you can enjoy it even though the game is in Japanese.
For those of you who like English and Mahjong, this is a great manga that's in English about Mahjong. Also it is very funny. The web site has through chapter 31.
>>638 4chan.net is very influential in western internet culture. Lots of overused phrases and images have originated there. It is fairly popular, but many other sites have disdain for 4chan because of some offensive and often obnoxious content. It is both underground and popular, if that makes sense.
>>641 Whenever I mention mahjong to my friends here in the USA, they think I'm talking about that matching 'shanghai' game. It was widely distributed on PCs in the 90's, so it is the only experience most people have with "mahjong", if any.
I'm interested in mahjong, but it seems like there are a lot of hand combinations to memorize and I feel like I'll just be messing up someone's game if I jump in on tenhou.net without knowing. Maybe I should stick to poker.
>>651 Thanks for the info. Listening to the info from western people from is convincing. >>654 Ah, Rick roll is there. I first heard of it and was "rick rolled" actually here in this thread.
Weaboo is what I first heard here, too, among Desu and MOAR.
>>656 Advertisement activity in 2ch is prohibited. If someone reports this, you will be probably banned by administrator. So I don't recommend you to advertise it often. I assume someone interested in the chat already went to there.
>>651 Don't worry. As you mentioned there are many combinations of tile. However basic combinations of tile are not so many. Thus if you could remember those a few combinations and declare "リーチ", you can win on the round at least. Playing against a computer is good thing to get used to playing mahjong but playing against people is better. Personally, I don't care playing with newbee like you. What is more, in writing English, you are definitely better than me. I don't even have capability to manage to real time chat. lol
>>654 Why don't you join our mahjong party? However I can't have real time chat due to my poor English ability, so it will be nothing different from playing with computers. lol
>>659 If your english is half as good real-time as it is there, I could understand you fine. 僕の日本語はだめです。
You have a mahjong party? Is it in Tenhou? Can I sign up without paying money? I should learn the rules better first. I played against the computers but they never called richi or ron so I don't think they were really playing.
Long time no see, everyone. I decided to apply for the lessons of ECC, one of Japanese popular and famous English schools to pass the next test of pre1 grade EIKEN. In the time, I may be able to pass it...
My foolishness is hopeless no matter how great English teacher was.
I came to a distant country just for sightseeing. People were kind, crimate was confortable, everything was nice. But I'm not good at thier language. It seemed I failed to understand them. I hate my foolishness. I hope I have not said something wrong. But if any, I'm sure they don't have to forgive me, never.
Nihon-jin san never say anything negative about your language learning. Because it is negative conditioning which would effect your learning. Instead, please say you learnt something new everyday about that language. That positive attitude is very important.
I saw tourism advertisement in 2ch and came to foreign country then passport controls asked me what for I came to this city I said for sightseeing but they never believed it. Something was wrong. At least I should not have been more positive.
>>660 Ahh!! Have you already played at Tenho.net? According to the explanation on website the reason why computers say nothing is that they pick up their tile and then just throw away picked tile. lol Therefore playing on some video games is much better than playing with computers at tenho.net.
I'm not sure where we should take place majong party. I have just heard about tenho.net. I don't know even whether we can get together at a same room.
They say there are two types of membership. The one is premium membership requiring some fee, the other is free membership. So we can play it for free even though there are some restrictions. It seems that the restrictions are not big problem to us. To play for free, we need Adobe Flash Player. They also said it's necessary to open TCP port 843.
I googled to find some useful websites for people like you who want to practice privately. Guess what?
I found flash base mahjong that computers don't throw away their picked tile over and over again. lol There is no voice such as "Ron!" but it's still enjoyable. I suppose this has enough quality for your practice.
I was arrested at the airport by the immigration service for being suspicious. By now everyone there was agreed that I was just fooled and decided to set me free. So the matter was settled all peasefully. Now I just have to go back home as soon as possible. I really can never shame myself enough.
It's real story. At the airport I was send to an invetsigation room and had some. But they just did what they had to do. And about the interpreter and others, they knew I'm fool enough misunderstanding anonymous posts. I was trying to blame anonymous posts in 2ch for those my troubles. Please don't trouble yourself about this stupidity. Thank you nanashi-san.
Ok I was trying to play the download version. I see. Well I can play the browser version now. My alias is nanashi7. But I don't know how to play against others.
Still I look forward to us having a match. I should learn the rules...
According the official website, when we play with people in this thread privately, we need to create private room at first by using official site's tools. When we play 4nin uti mahjong, we need 4 people in the room at least. In the case of playing sanma mahjong, we need 3 people in the room at least. In any case, we need 3 people at least to play mahjong together privately.
If you would like to take part in public games, I suppose, first, click "一般" tab on upside of windows, then click "予約" button and just wait until the game starts. However this is just my imagination.
>>689 That bank had already been rebuilt from its bad condition. Actually, its newest news is that of having attained surplus for the first time in its income.
>>688 No, never heard of it. What's their website like?
I don't know what the Arabic means at all either. I just copy and paste from somewhere in another thread in English board. To be exact, it was a part of what I see there. The whole part was with a Japanese sentense that reads, "Fools can't copy and paste it" or something like that.
This is a trick to aim for people trying copy and paste it. People can't hold their curiusity and want to see if they can successfully copy and paste it somewhere to see if they are fools or not. That way, it spreads rapidly virally in lots of threads in many boards even if it means nothing or it doesn't make sense. It's another nonsense or joke in 2chan.
The Minister of the Home Affairs received a phone call from a national newspaper one December asking what he wanted for Christmas. The minister was very flattered, but replied, “Nothing really, but if you insist, a bottle of single-malt whisky and a box of cigars would be nice.” On Christmas Eve, the newspaper arrived on his doorstep with a front-page feature on what British politicians would like for Christmas. The headline read: “The Prime Minister wants world peace, the leader of the opposition calls on Western countries to provide financial aid to famine-stricken countries in the Third World, and the Minister of Home Affairs wants a bottle of whisky and a box of cigars.”
I heard American people often feel at home in Osaka than in Tokyo. It is the city of trade, where many different people crossed for immediate comtract from old days. I heard the city I visited recently was the city of trade too.
>>704 The more you go into detail about your plan, the more advice you can get, I think. How long are you going to stay in Japan? Where do you arrive at, Narita(Tokyo) or Kansai Internationaol airport(Osaka)? The way you wrote it it sounds like you arrive at Tokyo..., though?
What kind of thing do you like to do? What's your priority, History? Pop culture? food?
I'm not familiar with the JR pass thingy but you can't take Shinkansen, or Bullet train with the pass, right? If so it takes more than an almost half day from Tokyo to Osaka. Actually it's ten hours, meaning if you leave Tokyo 9:00am, you'll get Osaka about 19:00pm. All you can do is eat local specialties at night on the day. No sightseeing on that day I guess except nightclubing. (I'm not experienced traveler so it may be just that I don't know what you can do at night in Osaka, though.)
On another note, if you arrive at Tokyo, you have to be careful because there are still quite a lot of Ninja around Narita airport targeting travelers from overseas. Remember, the more you are specific, the more it's easy to give you advice.
And you have to wear slippers on the premises of Narita airport, so don't forget to change to slippers in your airplain right before arriving at Narita airport.
>>702 As you mentioned before, if you think to visit Kyoto and Nara, that is not bad idea. Because those place are close each other.
However what are you interested in? Osaka is famous for foods such as Takoyaki, Okonomiyaki. Hiroshima is also famous for Okonomiyaki. they are different in ingredient and form. Which is better, Hiroshima fuu Okonomiyaki or Osaka fuu Okonomiyaki is controversial thing in Japan.
Umm other things... yea, Osaka is also famous for castle called "Osaka jyou". However, as regards Japanese castle, Himeji jyou is known as the best castle in Japan.
Himeji city is in Hyogo prefecture located next to Osaka prefecture. Himeji castle is located near the JR Himeji station, so you can visit there from Osaka easily. It takes about 30 minutes from JR Shin Osaka station to JR Himeji station by Shinkansen. However if you are not interested in castle, that will be completely wasted time.
Ahh, I have to say for you that Osaka has otaku town called Nipponbashi. There are several anime shops and PC shops. Nipponbashi is biggest otaku town in west Japan. However Akihabara in Tokyo is far bigger than Nipponbashi. Therefore if you are planning to visit Akihabara, it's difficult to find purpose of visiting there.
>>704 Lots of Buraku in Osaka and Kyoto and adjacent prefectures. Actually, within waliking distance of Kyoto station one of the biggest Buraku in western Japan is there. If you ask locals if they are buraku citizen, you can't get out of the district alive.
I'm not sure how I could be specific if I have not traveled that area. To find a guide is easiest if I'm not going to try every local specialities in one night. Or I would learn about the city in 2ch and be arrested as a terrorist.
Oh no, Osaka! Don't go out of your way to see the cesspool filled with loud and obnoxious people. If you insist you will, then be prepared for all the DQN stuff you can only imagine.
Kyoto is said to be an international and traditional city rich in culture but the flip side of the coin is the dark side of Japanese history. It's one of the cities where still discrimination against buraku citizen is deep rooted. It's interesting within the walking distance of the front face of Koyoto, which is the bright side to show to turists, symbolized by Kyoto Tower at Kyoto station, you can see the dark side of Japanese history...
Obama ate green tea ice at front of the Biggest Buddhist statue in Japan. he said once he went to that place when he was child. avarage of temprature in Kyoto was about 15 dagree.
>>717 Female MC: Today's guest at *ZumuSata Artisit is KAT-TUN. Welocome to the show. (*ZumuSata is probably a short form of Zoom-in Saturday, which is the name of the show. "ZumuSata Artist" is probably a segment where it features an artist in the show.) All: Thank you for having us!(Clapping hands) MC:So, you guys are going to release a new single...<Interputed by Kame> Kame:WAIT! (raising hand) <LAUGHS by other members> Something about this hanging scroll is on my mind. You guys are nice enough to decorate this with the stuffed animal on top and all that but look at this. The stains are intolerable. As producer, I have to keep an eye on props and all. While *Motchy=you are getting beautiful, this hangling scroll is getting old. (*Motchy seems like MC's nick name.) MC:Someone is having a wry grin (about his comment). All: LAUGHS
(cont.) KAME:Wait, wait. Be nice. *She is a flower in this show*. (* Maybe too literal translation but flower thing is just what he said. he didn't say "be nice" actually but this is what he means. "She's a flower so you have to be nice to her in this show" is what he meant. In this segment, she is the only woman so Kame comapared her to a flower.) MC: So, I understand you are going to write today... Kame: Yeah, seriously, if I don't, I can't turn on KAT-TUN switch. (He probably means that if he doesn't write it, he can't stir up myself as KAT-TUN.) Blue Jacket: Sounds like the scroll means so much to you. MC's narration: So, Kamenashi producer himself ends up writing the calligraphy for the first time in 2 years and 8 months for ZumuSata. Let's look at what he'll write. We'll show you later somewhere on the show! He looks serios. <Kame's face closeup> Green Jacket: Isn't it wrose written than the one you previously wrote? ----Music Clip-------- Narration:So, their 13th single "CHANGE UR WORLD" is going to be released next week. The theme of the song is "Change." It's a song about breaking a barrier and making a positive change about yourself. And actually Mr. kamenashi, who sings this song has experienced a big change in his private life. -----Clip ends(1:37)------
>MC:Someone is having a wry grin (about his comment).
This comment implys that someone(=green jacket man) among the members doesn't look he agrees with Kame's comment that she's getting beautiful. She is jokingly on accusing tone.
(cont.) MC: Regarding the new single, what image did you have in mind while singing? Kame: The song has KAT-TUNish rock taste so I express momentum while singing. And I was like, I imagined pictures pretty much in my mind while singing. MC: The song has momentum like Hard rock or Heavy metal... Kame:Right. Man who crosses legs:The tempo/rythum of the song and the rylics could be unbalance but they actually matched. "MATCH desu!" (He said "match" twice. Regarding the second "match-desu," he kind of impersonated "Kondo Masahiko," whose nick name is "Match." I don't know if he is still in Johnney's agency but he also was very popular as a solo singer. The crossed leg man recognized he said "matched" when talking about the rythum and rylics, and at the same time "Kondo masahiko" s nickname happens to be "Match" so he just said a pun to be funny. The MC didn't expect the pun to come out all of the sudden, she is kind of confused.) MC:Well... You said Match? Kame: I'm sorry. (bowing) Green jacket: You don't have to hesitate to say whatever you want to him. Actually, he's pretty tough so he would be OK. (He means the MC doesn't have to hesitate to say to him that the pun wasn't funny at all.)
I translated to 2:20 but time to sleep now. I can't get it all done at one go. Translating all isn't a walk in the Hyde Park. I'll do the rest tomorrow. (^3^)
You can take the Shinkansen except for the fastest class of service (Nozomi). I used the JR pass when I visited Japan in December 2008, a great buy for us foreigners. We went to Tokyo, Osaka and Hiroshima. We visited the hi-tech exhibitions, game centers, auto museums(Mazda and Toyota) and some historical places(Atomic bomb dome, Asakusa). I fell in love with Osaka's Takoyaki.
The only way we could visit Japan again, is when the dollar strengthens again. I doubt it, though.
Yeah, JR Rail Pass allows you to get on the shinkansen, but NOT nozomi, which is pretty annoying, because there's so many nozomis these days, ane very few Hikaris.
>>689 Thanks for the link! It was really fun to read. I know about that Sanokuen Goutou Hannin's conspiracy. The composite photo was fake but I didn't know that was to disguise Kawabata Yasunari's award for the Novel prize.
>>737 I see you are fluent in Japanese. I'm pretty surprised there are not more trolls like that on 2ch English threads.
Anyway I'll be going to Japan either summer 2011 or summer 2012 as part of a university trip. I'll copy what the website says, if you are interested: _________________________________________________________________ "The Japanese Language summer course which takes place in 3 Japanese cities offers intensive Japanese language training and a hands-on introduction to Japanese history and culture. The students will spend 23 days in Sapporo, 11 days in Tokyo, and 4 days in Kyoto.
In the first segment of the trip, the students will be in Tokyo, the political and cultural and business center of Japan, which provides a kaleidoscope of contemporary and traditional elements of Japanese culture. We will visit popular cultural sites and areas such as Asakusa, Akihabara, Ginza, Shibuya, Shinjuku, and Roppongi, and experience the exciting urban life of Tokyo. We will also watch Sumo tounament - a famous sport of Japan - and the National Kabuki theatre to learn about one of Japan's great traditions. In addition, there will be a one-day excursion to the factory of Fuji Film factory in Odawara, where we will also visit the old Odawara castle and finally walk to the Odawara beaches on the Pacific Ocean.
(cont.) On the second part of the trip we will ride the Shinkansen to Kyoto, the ancient imperial capital venerated for its old shrines and temples, many of which are designated as World Heritage sites. During this 4 day stay in Kyoto, we will visit various historical/cultural sites such as Kiyomizu Temple, Golden Pavilion, and the Gion district, and participate in the Zen meditation experience. We will also visit Nara, another oldest capital of ancient Japan.
In the final part of the trip, we will fly up to Sapporo, the capital city of Hokkaido, where the summer weather is perfect, we will use the facilities of the Hokkai Gakuen University which has modern hi-tech facilities. Students will be placed into appropriate level language courses, take language classes for 3 hours each morning as well as 1 hour during dinner (conversation sessions). Students will be paired with native speaker peer companions (college students) and will also have abundant opportunities to engage in dialogue with Japanese university professors, local business leaders, government officials, farming people, and Japanese students ranging from elementary school to college level.
(cont.) In the Japanese history course, lectures and discussions will include popular and traditional culture, history, religion, politics, business, social customs, geography, and aboriginal Ainu culture. An integral part of the course includes field trips to local industries, government offices, temples and shrines, a native aboriginal (Ainu) village, and a hot spring spa (onsen). June is a festival ("Matsuri") season in Sapporo, which offers the opportunity to enjoy the excitement of several festivals including the world-renowned Yosakoi Dancing Festival which draws dance groups from all over Japan and the world. Students will also have a two-night home-stay and share in the domestic customs and daily life of the Japanese." ___________________________________________________________________
A lot of it is tourist stuff. But anyway while we are in Tokyo we get the JR pass (hikari) to go anywhere we want for a day. So I want to go somewhere interesting that is different than the other places we are going. If you don't understand something in the description above I can explain it for you.
>>745 Hmm.. in short, You guys are scheduled to visit to Kyoto, Nara and Sapporo from the beginning. When or where can you have your own time? Only during your stay in Tokyo? The best timing to visit to west Japan such as Osaka, Hiroshima is when you are in Kyoto. In any case, you can visit those places from Tokyo if you can get a free day.
When I saw your description at first, I thought why you guys spend so many days in Sapporo located in middle of nowhere. There is nothing in Hokkaido except for food and nature. Now, I can understand the time you are in Sapporo is a important part in learning Japanese. ah, I also found you could eat your favorite salmon nigiri sushi to the full.
I have to say Odawara castle is bollocks in all respects in comparison with Osaka castle or Himeji castle. So I recommend you to run away from shitty sightseeing to do something else.
One more thing, you still didn't say what you want to do or see in Japan. So, we can't say anything in detail.
>750 Well my Japanese will be limited. So I will need to do things I can do without speaking complicated Japanese. And I won't have long periods of time to do things by myself. Someday I will probably work or study abroad in Japan and then I can. But what I would like to do... eat good food, do activities unique to Japan, and see things that are uniquely Japanese. I hate being like a tourist though (which is why I'm learning Japanese). Anyway I could also go up north. I can go anywhere that is reasonable for a Hikari.
I think we're going to Odawara castle because it's convenient from Tokyo, as opposed to Osaka or Himeji.
yakuza isnt nicer. usualy they dont touch general people. because there is a rule that they cant harm general people without reason. but once they got reason. they are not nicer at all. they are as bad as mexican mafia. expecialy when one is foreigner. because most of them dont have back yard. no follower. you know.
>>753 That's 任侠 (nin-kyou), authentic and traditional spirits that the old school yakuza used to have back when helping the poor and the weak was the cause, but today's yakuza are totally different.
>>753 thats not only humanitarian aid. the represent of their power. which they are insisnting that kobe is their territory with it. nothing to good reason.
Hey, what's up guys? I am quite drunk, because the blue monday is almost there.
>>751 As to going to somewhere from tokyo by "Hikari", I'd recommend go to Nagoya if what you want to do is to eat something eccentric. They have lot of specialities, and most of them are enjoyable for people from the US.
>>759 I don't agree with your opinion. You may want to learn how yakuza organization developed in Japanese history. These days, yakuza does nothing but harm Japanese society, but I will not be surprised if they still show some altruistic behavior under special circumstances.
first of all. yakuza isnt history of japan. yes. there was such thing in edo era. until after war. they call themself yakuza. but they are not historical one.
>>761 Whaaat? Nagoya is full of Miso. There are many strange food. They use Miso for all food ridiculously. If foreigners recognize those food as ordinary Japanese food, it's the shame of Japan.
>>763 You don't really know what the food is like in Nagoya, do you... I grew up there untill I came to US since I was born, so I know quite a few very unique and delicious signature foods. There are not so many things to go visit but the foods there are pretty interesting.
Is there anywhere known for its extra special uni? Surely that would be the top place to recommend. Other than where the country's top gourmet nyanko-meshi chef resides.
>>731-732 Good to know that you are pleased with that.
>Without Akanashi, our Kamenashi is working so hard to play the role of KA >of KAT-TUN.
Role of KA? What is KA? And I try to write their name instead of what color of clothes the wear. I meant to do the rest today but I was busy all day today. I don't even read posts here when I'm curious to read nanashi's travel plan in detail.
As I promised, I'll do the rest, maybe tomorrow, on this weekend at the latest. Let's just say I may end up doing it at a turtle pace, snail pace rather. Anyway, stay tuned! (^3^)
>>766, >>770 Don't understand why try to put down other cultures and be only exclusive. Won't you be a bit more open-minded and try to look for the positive part of things instead of just throwing bad words at different groups of people than yours? You might have had bad experiences with outsiders, but not all of the people from the place you dislike are bad, neither are the cultures. There might be some things you haven't seen that you would like a lot. Don't be a hater, please.
Sorry for nagoya fuss here. It's my bad. I forgot that Nagoya is one of the least favorite cities on 2ch.
I am from Nagano, and have never lived there, but I enjoyed Nagoya food every time I went there. My favorites include miso-nikomi udon, hitsu-mabushi, and tebasaki.
True, there are not so may things worth taking a visit, but that's because it's a city rebuilt after air raids in WWII burned down the city.
>>753 >The yakuza provided humanitarian aid to people after the Kobe earthquake
I've heard that, too, but don't be fooled. They are Criminal organization after all no matter what, doing lots of illegal thigs including being so harsh, being harm to ordinary people. The humanitarian thing is just to get people's heart. They were just disguising as a good people when in fact they're atrocious human being.
>>775 Did anyone ask your opinion about Nagoya? What is your definition of "culture"? Which city in Japan do you think has culture except for obvious example, such as Tokyo and Kyoto?
And the claim about Nagoya having no culture is totally pointless. Nagoya is full of culture. I'm not exactly saying that's a good thing, though. What Nagoya totally lacks is places to go out and have fun on the weekends...
Totally depends on the criteria. And you must account for the fact that everyone would use his/her own different criteria to answer that question. So, my answer to the question would be "there will never be a definitive answer for it". But then again, that's life. We're not living in the world of mathematics, are we?
I'm asking for a more subjective opinion than that. There must be some kind of bias and patriotism toward some city or another. Americans love their home city and hate everyone else (and their football teams). Like, I like Boston irrationally because it has tons of universities and conventions, and good public transportation. Although of course I am not actually biased toward anything in particular.
Well once football comes on TV suddenly every other team deserves to mysteriously die in a plane crash. Some of that may be the Budweiser and Fritos talking though. I would know, my family is from Alabama. College football is their life there. In fact they may have warped my opinion of the average American.
nagoya is called A big village. because big amout population though. they are totaly villagers. close society. special place. because they make it special. just there are many japanese who hate it.
>>787 As of the place that you insulted the specific people other than you by your own bias, you are already a lower vulgar person than them. There couldn't be anything that's called statistical figures when it comes to judging a culture or characteristics of human beings.
What I wanted say was that you can always state your opinion about anything freely, but it's not a nice way to speak ill of others making them feel bad. It's very childish, and selfish at a time that you can't feel good about yourself only by lowering outsiders.
Like nanashi san says, often times Americans get excited with football games and sometimes get very much carried away, but they, in my opinion, at least don't attack other cities or teams by unnecessary abuse.
I never recommend you to stay in nagoya. because they are extrema close society even for japanese. I don't think foreigner can survive at there. at least. you will think japanese are recist because of it.
>>771 Please do not stress yourself to translate the rest, there is plenty of time. I don't mean to cause so much trouble to you. Please only do it if you are enjoying it. Your translation and attention to detail is very good. Thank you for all the effort. Re:Role of KA. As you might know, Akanishi has left the band. KATTUN the name comes from the first letters of the boys' surnames. Therefore instead of (K)amenashi-(A)kanishi-(T)anaka-(T)aguchi-(U)eda-(N)akamaru, they have (KA)amenashi-(T)anaka-(T)aguchi-(U)eda-(N)akamaru. Meaning once they were a the dual frontman group (Kame and Akanishi), now Kame is doing two frontmen's job. He is such a workaholic.
>As of the place that you insulted the specific people other than you by your own bias, you are already a lower vulgar person than them.
Agreed. IMO, I don't hate Nagoya but even having said that, being fair , Nagoya got some special exclusionary atmosphere. If you go and live there for a few months, you'll know it. The native Nagoyan would instantly know whether you are a resident or outsider, and when you'd go to a store, a shopmaster would look at your face know that you are an outsider, and he probably wouldn't say 'Irasshaimase'. It may sometimes happens. But there is a flip side. The environment is pretty good. Urban development is nicely done in terms of living environment. There are many small sized park in the corner of the cities. Also athletic style parks are often seen. I used to live in Higashiyama area. I often went to the zoo, or sometimes went to cafe at night in my neighborhood. About the sightseeing, there are almost nothing. I would think there are many historical spots, such as Okehazama, but they don't seem to have an intention to build some memorial statue or place for tourists. In terms of the foods, as everyone says, most of them are weird. I don't think they have the same sense of taste with other Japanese. I don't understand Azuki bread especially served at the coffee shop in the morning.
They seem to be bored people. But the strange thing is that Nagoyan LOOOOVEEEE Nagoya very much. Almost everybody saids they want to live in Nagoya whole their lives. There are nowhere else they want to live, even though they have never lived in other places in their lives.
There are good side and bad side. But overall, Nagoya is a strange city.
>>793 What would have happened if all their names began with consonant sounds? Their unit would have been pretty hard to pronounce. Then again, I have no idea how "B'z" is supposed to be pronounced, but they've managed to do okay for themselves.
And not that anyone really cares, but may as well say a sentence or two about it anyway... the second Russian girl is very different from the one from the train. The one I finally met today is pretty extroverted and, surprisingly, confessed to being overly fanatical about shōjo manga and anime. On top of that, she's very enthusiastic about this whole gothic lolita thing. Pretty unexpected, but sometimes life becomes a bit more interesting when things don't exactly go as expected.
>>794 Thanks for lengthy diss about Nagoya. What you are saying is like "I do not hate Nagoya but I can show 100 reasons why you should hate Nagoya." Your opinion is full of distaste enough to make me sick.
>>796 "B'z" is pronounced the same as "bees," although its intonation is different, meaning "B'z" sounds flat without stress on "be" part. No matter if they work as hard as bees or not, it's pronounced like that.
The woman on the train is introverted? My impression on her from your comments before is that she's intelligent type.
Didn't she say she's interested in Japanese pop culture before you met her? This time, at least this extroverted girl shares interest in Japan with you. Although she doesn't soud like she loves Japanese movies such as the ones directed by Kitano Takeshi. She sounds like more of a weaboo. (I don't know how offensive the term is, so don't take it seriously.) I bet she reads Boy's Love comic if she's interested in shojo manga.
I have a question. In North American English, they say there is a diferrence between "anymore" and "any more" in its meaning.
"anymore" implies continuing forever from now on. "any more" means simply any further.
for example, He can't eat anymore. (maybe he fell sick and some organs don't work, so he can't eat forever from his mouth.) He can't eat any more. (maybe he ate food to his heart's content, so he can't eat more at the time.)
What do you think? Is this true? I didn't know even there is such a theory until now.
>>804 Yes, that is true. I didn't know it was a North American exclusive thing. I think of it this way:
"anymore" suggests that time is the key factor. It's the same as saying "from now on", like you said, except the change in states could have happened long ago, not necessarily 'now' "The restaurant doesn't serve beer anymore. They lost their liquor license last year." "Since you lost your job, can you afford rent anymore?"
"any more" suggests that an amount of thing X is the key factor. "The restaurant doesn't have any more beer. They ran out." "Do you have any more money left to pay your rent?"
>>804 Yes, there is a difference between "anymore" and "any more."
"Anymore" is an adverb, and it usually comes at the end of a sentence. "Any more" can be either an adverb + adjective (modifying a noun) or adverb + noun.
In terms of meaning, I don't think "anymore" implies continuing forever from now on. "Anymore" places an emphasis on time (the action won't continue for the time being). "Any more" places an emphasis on the noun the phrase modifies.
For example, your sentence, "He can't eat anymore," implies that the person can't eat anymore for the moment, but may eat more later. "He can't eat any more" would imply the person cannot eat any more of what he has been eating. (You can say "He can't eat any more apples," for instance, to be more detailed.)
Heh, someone who can't eat anymore must be pretty unhappy. No more delicious salmon nigiri, only the cold touch of the IV needle... I don't believe the word "anymore" is used at all in UK English. I think "any more" is used for both meanings.
>809 that is correct.
Hey guys, I have to submit an application to go to Japan tomorrow, is there something in Japanese I can put in that would help? Something like, "I very much hope that I will be considered for a position on the trip, as it will fulfil many of my life's dreams," or something. It'll be read by a Japanese person and she would be happy to see Japanese after reading tons of English. But I don't speak Japanese well enough to think of anything.
>>815 The thought that someone posts something in Japanese for your application form claming that the Japanese sentense shows your eagerness to experience Japan but in fact it means "I wanna lick and eat your cunt from dwan to dusk" makes me giggle.
>>804, >>815 Officially, we (the British) don't recognise "anymore" as a word (and as I typed that, the spellcheck decided to underline the word in red), but many of us use it anyway. However, there are some of us who use it in >>806's sense, and some who use it interchangeably (and wrongly, in my eyes) with "any more".
Another way in which we imply the discontinuation of something is with "no longer". Such as, "he is no longer able to eat".
>>798 The girl from the train is pretty introverted, but opens up when talked to. I think being in a foreign country and having little contact with people made her open up more than usual that first time we met. She's definitely the intelligent type, though, and spends her free time writing articles about linguistics as well as working on her thesis for her second masters degree. Her idea of fun is to wander around an art gallery or museum for hours on end.
I'm trying to get the new one to watch some Japanese movies, though don't really know what she's into. Going to try a mixture of Beat Takeshi, Yôji Yamada, and perhaps Takashi Miike (the more quirky ones, rather than the more extreme ones) to start with. You're right, though... a mention of Boy Love comics came up very briefly. And yes, I'd also agree that she is somewhat "weeaboo", though when she draws and designs, it's not in any style reminiscent of manga artwork (which is a plus, in my books).
>>793 I see. I see. That makes sense. KA ------(cont.)------ MC(narration):What each of them are into now is.....Taguchi, Tanka, Nakamaru are into Surival Game. Sometimes the three of them play it together. And, Ueda is into mail order shopping. And Kamenashi is into.... Kame:What I'm into is...Furniture. I like interior pretty much. MC:Have you bought anything recently? Kame: Recently I've changed articles of furniture... Tanaka:You have? Kame: Big change in articles of furniture in the living room. MC:What's the image, theme of your living room? Kame:Lots of trees. trees and Black. It's(the theme is) like, tree (and) black. (He said trees but it would be more like plant because "tree" resembles pretty tall tree at least to me, maybe I'm wrong though. I think he's talking about plants in a big pot or something.) Maybe I'm into buying things now... Tanaka:I don't know... Kame: Maybe these days I'm in the mood for making some "Changes".(about my living environment, my world) (He uses "Change" intentioanlly here because Change is a part of their new single's title. He kind of skillfully but directed the concersation to their new single to promote it.)
MC:Good job. Kame:It's just nothing... Just forget it. MC:You did a good job. Kame: Not really. (Kame is kind of ashamed of the way he directed the conversation to the new single, because it's old fashioned, worn-out way of doing that, so artificial. So being told "good job" is kind of too much and humiliating in a way.) Tanaka:Motchy(=MC) always highlights humiliating parts. (He means Kamenashi doesn't want to dwell on it but she looks like kind of trying to ridicule the way Kamenashi directed the converation to the single.)
MC(naration):It's always fun having them around. Man's voice:I'm curious of what his calligraphy will turn out to be. MC:Yes, his calligraphy will be open to everybody somewhere in this show later. ---------DONE----------- Hope you'll enjoy the translation! (^3~)
>>819 Then, you mean "anymore" is not always implying permanence as >>808 mentioned? If so, I think that a better way implying permanence is using "no longer" instead of "anymore" as you mentioned.
Congratulations to Igirisu-jin san and all the British people! Prince William was engaged with his classmate girl. That's a very happy news. I've heard she is his classmate and have been together for a long time. What I amazed the most at is that those princes, William and Henry, have been growing healthily, which means they don't really fool around with Paris Hilton or some celebrities like other princes, even though they had experienced such a hardship; lost mother, gossips, and paparacchi and so on.
>>820,821 Aw thanks a million for taking your time to do the translation. You have brought them one step closer to me! I know Kame and KyonKyon were living together till January when suddenly rumours surfaced that Kyon moved her house from Daikanyama to Hayama. He looked happy until recently. I thought the two were secretly married. However she has had many projects including a film costarring with her ex-husband. She was also seen with a younger comedian. Kame was rumoured to be drinking with MAsa Hiroshi. So it looked like they were parted. Theyhad such potential to be Japan's no 1 couple. Maybe Kame suffered from separation and decided he had to "Change" his life.
>>824 You heard about it before I did! However, Prince Harry has often been in the newspapers due to various things, as >>826 mentions, as well as when he dressed up asa Nazi. It's not really a big deal, but they get a lot of media attention because of who they are. William is seen as the more level-headed one.
>>823 The only time it doesn't really imply a timeframe (that I can think of) is when used somewhat incorrectly by British people - >>808's explanation is pretty spot on.
>>822 Thank you 名無しさん for your assistance! What if I want to add, "It is regrettable that I could not have written the rest of this essay in Japanese". The person reading the essays hates reading large amounts of English so I want to put something in to make her feel more comfortable. (^^)
>>838 >Isn't どうぞよろしくお願いします used to mean "nice to meet you"?
Depending on the context, yes.
どうぞよろしくお願いします is used in many ways in many situations. I don't think there's exact equivalent in English.
It has very polite tone in it and sometimes it could also be translated as just "Thank you for your support." It's very versatile expression.
In your case, it could be I hope you'll enjoy reading my essay (and hopefully you'll choose me to go to Japan)" or "Thank you very much for reading my essay (and hoplefully you'll choose me to go to Japan)" ."
>>843 OpenOffice. It's free software suite that consists of equivalents of MS Office, if I'm not wrong.
Isn't she supposed to understand English when she's in charge of the screening process? I wonder what percentage of applicans can be selected to go to Japan? What does she usually do in your university? I guess she's not a prof.
system of japanese language is very random. どうぞ=よろしく=お願いします these words are almost same meanings. so sounds are more important. its like "please please plese" in english. but 3 steps of sound is very beautiful.
>>844 OpenOffice is not as pretty as MS Word but it's just as powerful.
She does speak English, but not -entirely- fluently. As in, she speaks somewhat slowly and with a strong accent. So she can probably read my paper fine but she will not enjoy it (because there will be 30 more papers just like it too). She's a professor; in fact she will be my Japanese teacher next semester.
>>847 Hmmmm. It sounds tough to choose people who go to Japan based on essays. Probably eagerness she feels from the essays is the key to be choosed. I'm curious to read 30 papers of them. I'm eager to know what aspects of Japan appeal to them.
You can just say "I have a promise to meet with Japanese friends whom I acquainted with at Japanese most superb bulletin board, so I must go to Japan otherwise I have to dive from the roof of university". or "If I have to show my sincere feeling toward you, I will go so far as to devote my cherry to you, my beloved prof.".
>>854 No, I just thought what motivates them to apply and come to Japan. I want to read 30 different reasons why they want to come to Japan.
But come to think of it, if Europe was included among other places besides Japan as a travel destination in this program, it would be the most popular and get most applications.
What a adjective word to signify rhombus form is? I thought at first that is rhombic or diamond but OALD and LDCE said there isn't rhombic as a word and diamond is a noun.
>>825 Your welcome. You really are updated on things about Kyon2 and the turtle. Among the things you picked up there, I only knew she and her ex-husband's costarring. Anyway, good to know you enjoyed it.
>>825 wow you know so much about what's going on between Kamenashi and Kyon2. So they were separated by now? ummm that's probably good for him coz he wants to get a family one day with a young wife, who would be able to give a birth to his child. Also Kyon2 should be happier being alone after her divorce. Once woman divorce, they rarely get re-married, I mean, not as easy as male do.
>>864 By January 17. I'll have to brownnose the professor until then. For those who don't know what "brownnose" means, it's a verb that means to act really nice toward someone in order to become friendly with them, usually for a particular purpose. It comes from the idea that your nose gets brown when you put it into the person's ass.
>>861, >>862 Kamenashi is very much into older women and he says he doesn't want children. All the women he dated were much older than him except the last last girl who was a younger one but I don't think he can switch his preference suddenly to much younger girls. Obviously this puts off fans and looks bad for Johnny's business. Janiota hate Kyon2 because she lived with him for over four years. Therefore they at least need to be seen as parted even if in reality they may still be together.
>>866 You call us ugly and creepy because you cannot tolerate the immense attention these handsome boys get. I understand some women may be ugly but creepy? I don't get that. I have never seen "creepy" women.
>>873 I'd always recommend the Oxford English Dictionary, but it depends which edition you need. If it's for general use, the Concise edition is practical. There's the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary, aimed at students of English, which includes help on planning and writing.
And then there's the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary which, ironically, is absolutely massive and comes in two huge volumes. You could kill an elephant with this edition.
Noah Webster was a scoundrel and a knave. Some of his reformed words didn't make it into common use, such as "wimmin" instead of "women", "tung" instead of "tongue", "groop" instead of "group", and "ake" instead of "ache", to name but a few. His reforms were less about evolution of language and more about making it simpler for the illiterate rabble to learn (and also to differentiate it from British English, a 'patriotic' move to gain political backing soon after the War of 1812).
Merriam was just the publisher, so I have no quarrel with them.
I think I have a Webster's at home... Nowadays I use Wiktionary for everything. It tends to be more complete and more updated than printed dictionaries. For Japanese, I use jisho.org for looking things up, the program zKanji for more detailed look-ups, and Peraperakun which is a Firefox plugin for translating words when I put the cursor over them. They're all based on the WWWJDIC project.
If you want a small pocket dictionary for English, I don't think it matters much what you get.
Here's an English question (Igirisujin may be of help...) Why is "mathematics" in UK English shortened to "maths" but remains singular? Ex. "Maths is fun!" "Maths annoys me" etc. It seems strange to me. Also it's hard to pronounce.
This night, I've made a careless mistake. When I went to the workplace and then I saw the notebook all part-timers(including me) and officers must check before record time-card in the kitchen, the chief there in the time said "Hey, why didn't you come here yesterday? You should have come in the day." I was surprised at his saying and confused. "? I should have done that?" So, I rechecked the time- table and noticed that I had to come there yesterday and copyed the day's time- table in 18th, today in my memopad... How shameful and careless mistake is! Of course, after that, I came back to my home and now I am writing this post... Ah, I must be very careful from now on...
>>889 I am not a huge fan of Kpop yet, maybe because I speak a little elementary Japanese, I am more familiar with Japanese lyrics. However I adore Shinee, I lsten them along with Kattun every day,
They are a very talented band. MinHo is so cute! I like BOA, DBSK and recently discovered GDragon. Otherwise it is JPop and JRock for me. However that still doesnt stop me listening to Swedsh Death metal, Industrial Goth, classical music and Jazz. Strange tastes I know.
I heard somewhere that Hyundai has higher brand image than Toyota in US. People from US, is that really the case in US?
If you live in other places except Japan and US, what about the situation in your country? I'd appreciate it you tell me where you live, too.
While I'm at it, what about Sony and Samsung? Different from the Toyota-Hyndai case, I wouldn't be surprised if you say that Samsung has higher brand image than Sony in your country because Samson for these past few years has shown big presence in Flad TV field. So what's the situation like in your country regarding Sony and Someson's brand image?
>>884 We think of mathematics as a collection of proficiencies, as we do with, say, physics, chemistry, biology, gymnastics, athletics, and so on, so we treat it as a plural. We keep the 's' on the end when we shorten it as it is a plural... so it's just like shortening "bicycles" to "bikes".
That's how it works in British English, anyway. It's hard to imagine "maths" being hard to pronounce though... how about "baths"?
>>895 It's pretty difficult to tell which brand is the most popular over here by just looking every day. There are far more Toyotas on the road here than Hyundai, but Hyundai has more of a reputation for 'sporty' cars here. Toyota is seen as family-friendly and reliable (even after the mass-recall). Two of my clients are garage owners and rate Japanese cars as being the most reliable.
It's difficult to tell between Sony and Samsung because of the different ranges of appliances they sell here. Sony Walkman is far more popular than Samsung's music players (though Sony's software is terrible). Sony and Panasonic are marketing their TVs a lot better than Samsung, with Sony's Bravia range and Panasonic's Viera range. Samsung do pretty decent computer monitors, though, with their Syncmaster range. One of my monitors is Samsung, the other (better one) is Dell. Samsung do more business than Sony in home appliances, such as dishwashers, washing machines and microwaves. Don't think I've ever seen a Sony dishwasher before. However, Samsung are marketing their mobile phones much better than Sony/Sony-Ericsson. Overall, I'd say Sony has the upper hand in brand image.
that Samsung stole many parent from Japan and Taiwan without contract that Samsung isnt private company. its national company of South Korea that Samsung dont need to follow the law because they are rule. that Samsung amout of compensation is bigger than South Korea's national budget. that Samsung's main engeener team members are Japanese. that Samsung's main designer is a Italian.
I think Totoya holds more popularity even though Hyundai is also very popular. In terms of technology, I think Sony is more popular here. Especially those TV's, super clear graphics! I wish I had one.
Most Westerners don't know these things. They pretty much don't care either. In fact, most Americans probably don't even know Samsung is a Korean company.
>>899 Thank you. I wanted to hear your peronal observation about their market presense and I don't need any statics. So just hearng your opinion was good enugh. I never had image that Hundai manufacutures "Sporty car." I don't know maybe their brand building team takes the strategy UK, maybe US, too.
Never knew Samsung makes dishwashers, washing machines and microwaves. All I knew about their products is TV, and handheld device such as mobile phone and maybe mp3 players.
>>902 Thank you. I never imagined Korean companies become almost neck and neck with Japanese companies. Althuogh overall I think Japanese technology is still better than other booming economies.
>>908 >904 is probably right though, although all of them are popular, Toyota and Sony are probably slightly more. But it really depends on the product in question. My laptop is American (HP), my phone is Taiwanese (HTC), my old mp3 player was Korean (Samsung), and my external hard drive, television, video game consoles, and car are Japanese (Hitachi, Sony, Nintendo, and Toyota). So far I haven't been dissatisfied with any of them. Although I just realised that most of my stuff in Japanese...
On another note, anyone notice that practically every Japanese company uses the company's name in big, solid-colour letters for the logo? For example, compare Sony, Sharp, Panasonic, Toyota, Hitachi, Honda, and Toshiba with companies like Apple, GE, Ford, Chevrolet, IBM, Verizon, etc.
>>908 After looking at Hyundai's UK website, they make a lot more than just sports-type cars. So I'm guessing their normal cars just don't sell as well. Honda is very popular here too. And one of my colleagues recently imported a Nissan Skyline GT-R from Japan - the UK holds the record for the world's biggest Nissan Skyline meeting, for some reason.
LG are also a very big Korean company operating over here. Nobody really knows they're Korean, though, and usually laugh if you mention they're called Lucky Goldstar. Most people associate it with the company's tagline, "Life's Good". They're a pretty big competitor in the TV market over here as well as mobile phones, but they're mostly known for their kitchen and washing appliances. Sharp used to be a big player in home media, but they've greatly declined here.
As is nanashi's case, I don't really have any brand loyalty and just go with whatever I think suits the purpose best. Phone is Taiwanese, monitors are American and Korean (though looking to replace the Samsung with another Dell). TV and peripherals are Japanese. Sound system is Japanese (Onkyo), but with English speakers and Austrian headphones. Japanese microwave, British oven and stove, German refrigerator... the list can go on, really.
According to Amazon's sales rankings, Toshiba and Samsung are battling it out in the TV category (with Sony and Panasonic also in the Top 10), but Sony is clearly in the lead when it comes to stereo systems.
Igirisujin uses a Samsung monitor? I am disappointed. If you wanted a cheap monitor, you should have bought a BenQ. There is absolutely no reason to buy Samsung products. By buying their crap, you are tainting your own soul.
>>914 In the US, samsung monitors (and flat TVs) are more high end items than Ben-Q.
>Hyundai Hyundai increased their sale for several reasons: 1. US automakers' trouble in finance, 2. Toyota's massive recall, and 3. insanely benevolent sales policy of Hyundai. I am not quite sure this sales surge led to a good brand image. I'd still buy the US cars rather than buying Hyundai cars.
>>917 If Eizo monitors were cheaper, I'd rather have them than any other. Many hospitals here use Eizo monitors for their imaging systems, and many airports use them for their air traffic control displays. On top of that, they also make wonderful monitors for graphic/web design and publishing under the ColorEdge range. Problem is, they cost over three times as much as a good H/S-IPS monitor at around £1,750 (about 233,500yen) each.
Sony do also sell monitors here, but haven't seen one for a long, long time.
Samusung's patent stealings are big damage to companies in Japan. and Westerners dont know about it. as a result. Monitor industries in Japan is in danger so they decided using of cheap Samusung's LCD panels.. no matter what you will buy Samusung's panel.
many Japanese talented engneer lost their job. it doesn't mean that Samsung's moniter became great level. it does mean that Japanese moniters are ruin.
>>922 Buying Samsung panels is risky. I'm not sure if it still happens, but Samsung assemble their LCD panels at three sites. Some are actually made in Korea, some are made in China, and some are made in Slovakia. There's no way of knowing which panel you have unless you physically take apart the monitor and check the part's serial number, but that voids the warranty. The manufacturing process differs at each factory, producing different qualities of panel even though they could be used in the same model monitor. And you really don't want to be getting a panel assembled in Slovakia. It's known as a panel lottery.
South Korean will build a nuclear plant in the US as a first time which was Toshiba's main job. several month ago. a HDD was desapeared from Toshiba's lab. it contains a blue print of main core of nuclear reactor. then South Korea announced that they invented new tech so they could do build it. its show time of fireworks.
I heard some British really adore GT-R(R32, R33, R34), so that they import it from Japan personally even tough the cost is expensive. The cost is sometimes over one hundred thousand dollars. Since Skyline GT-R was sold only in Japanese market, GT-R had only a right steering wheel model. I suppose this fact was one of advantages in British traffic circumstances.
Now, GT-R became world wide model and much more competitive. However, as many car journalists said, GT-R is far inferior than other premium sports cars in terms of a attraction and pleasure. I have to say I have the same opinion. At least, until R-34, GT-R had good sound. RB Engine is famous for its beautiful sound. Now that GT-R lost one of few advantages, newest GT-R is mere hi-tech car.
Generally, Japanese cars don't have a attraction and a fascination awfully. There are many things to have to learn from European cars.
>>902 Which part of the US are you talking about? I barely see Hyunday anywhere in NY whereas almost more than half of the cars pass by me are Japanese cars, which toyota consists of one third of it. I would say, the chance I see Hyunday in the city is maybe one out of 20 cars or less.
Samsung is getting pretty popular, so probably it's as popular as sony here, too. But the range of the Samsung products' prices is much lower than that of sony's, for sure.
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I was too busy to spare time for trying tenho last week. So I tried it just now. Then I wondered whether we can chat during playing game. I suppose we can chat only at the lobby. If so, that's really bummer.
Anyway I made a test room. So, if you interested in mahjong or having conversation, please feel free to come. I don't have intention to play mahjong especially. It's just test room. What is more I can't do real time chat in English. So don't hesitate to come.
I'm becoming sleepy gradually. However they say the room exists for 24 hours at least without any player. Therefore if I'm not there, you can still play with other people.
there are full of chinese and korean con mans on internet auction in Japan. according to my experience. 1/2 of people are them. especialy. chinese do it with organized. chinese communist party supports managing of cheat servers. to attack market in japan and steal money illegaly. there are even cheated auction sites by them. internet look for japanese is like a hell.
>>960 150th thread should be celebrated with high end alchol drinks maybe? Or we should stick to non-alchol drink not to get drunk or tipsy on weekdays, some are under legal drinking age to boot...
Slim Shady appears out of nowhere, all of a sudden, without advance notice, because he lives inside of you. Your mood, what happens to you in any given day are one of the factors that decides if he'll make appearance in this/the next thread.
When your boss or supervisor is being mean to you on one day, then you could abuse somebody here to release the stress you suffered from after work. You could say that's the moment when your darkside is expanding its share in you, ie, when Slim Shady in you are taking control of you. But if you abuse or troll someone here in this thread, I never blame you.
Because, SLIM SHADY IS IN ALL OF US.
Even in prince William, of course, although it's widely known that Slim Shady takes control of prince Henry more often. It's just that prince William knows how to manage his Slim Shady in him. That doesn't mean Slim Shady doesn't live inside of him. He DOES.
Again, regardless of age, sex, where you live, what culture you're in, what you ate for breakfast today, how many times you poo in a week, how many times you blink in a day,
"SLIM SHADY IS IN ALL OF US"
...and Noriaki is da real and no one is as cool as Cool TAK.
As I supposed, tenho don't allow us to have a chat during game. That's a problem. If you don't want to have a chat during play, tenho has no problem.
Is there another good place to play mahjong with resident of this thread? I used to play at "東風荘". It's one of oldest Japanese online mahjong sites. They allow to chat during game, however they require email address in registration and do not offer private room. So, it's difficult for us to be together at the same playing room. In addition to that, they may or may not reject connection from oversea.
>>976 That's a poopy idea, but anything written in 'English' would be far better than this thread and in fact so many have already left. So yea, why not.
Might help us foreigners to understand the names of hands. Though, I'm still a little puzzled as to the significance of the centre tiles, as well as why, sometimes, when I would be able to call 'Ron', it won't let me...
Anyway, would join in the real games, but have had a little too much work on my hands these past few weeks. I'll give it a go next week sometime...
>>981 This confused me for a while too - You need at least one yaku to be able to ron, and dora doesn't count. If that error message pops up when you click ron, then it means you've got a hand full of sets/runs and a pair, but your hand wouldn't be worth points. I've found it's easier to avoid this if you keep your hand concealed so that you can riichi or get pinfu/menzen tsumo
The tile in the middle that is flipped up is the dora indicator - if you have a hand with the next tile in sequence after that (so, 4p if 3p is shown, south if east is shown...) then you get extra points. In certain conditions, such as if someone declares riichi, more tiles from that pile get turned over at the end of the round and serve as additional dora for scoring. So, I think those center tiles are just there to serve as potential dora.
>>981 I didn't realize they have English version of the Mahjong flash. That can be great help to foreigner who want to play Mahjong.
In addition to what >>985 said, I suppose there are several possibility of what you said. First, They may not have all combination of tiles that we can call Ron or Tsumo.
Second, You threw away the tile that you need for Ron at the round. We call it "Furiten". for example, when the tiles for Ron are 1bamboo and 4bamboo, if you threw away either of them until then at the round, you can't call Ron. "Furiten" is one of difficult things for beginner to understand but I suppose you knew it already. Anyway, even in this case, you can still call tsumo. in other words, you can't win by the tile other player throw away but you can win by the tile you get yourself from stack of tiles.
>>985 From my point of view, your writing skill is great. I can rely on you for those detailed explanations, can't I?
>>985 Ahh... I suppose you are Japanese from the first, but judging from using that reference site, Do you happen to be a foreigner? If so, no wonder your writing is great. How embarrassing... w I am surprised by your understanding to Mahjhong.
>>985-986 Thanks very much for that information, it's really cleared up a couple aspects that were a bit muddled in my mind. That link's also a great reference. Usually I like to have references in the form of a book, but there's surprisingly little published on the topic of Japanese Mahjong, so will probably just print out what's useful on that page...
>>987 Yeah, I'm from the USA. My understanding of mahjong is pretty shallow, I only started learning about it a week or two ago. I forgot all about furiten, heh. I'm idling in tenhou 6705 right now.