Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 146

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Hey!!! you NEETs, nerds, YouTube-link spammers, pedophiles, neo-Nazis,
Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers, Part-Time-Preachers,
Diplomats' spoiled sons, losers who can't remember Kanji characters,
Big-boobs fans, Weeaboos from all over the world, learners of Japanese
who are too lazy to update their Japanese blogs very often, and cunning
linguists. And let's hope the Internet-addicted housewife will come back soon!

Here is the place to have a ball!!!!!

Kilroy was here!

orange gingerbread tea sounds delicious.

That reminds me of Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas.

What a complicated tea name it is. I feel kind of dizzy...

Anyway, good job! >>1

>962
Ainu and burakumin, that's like asking an American how they feel about
Native Americans in reserves and so called "trailer trash" from the deep south.

As for zainichi, the problem is that they just not leech off of Japan,
but they do not care about Japan and their education and objective is to
benefit and empower their "home country" which they see as North/South Korea,
and to take over Japan. They were never forced to come here as they claim,
they came here by will and for work. And after the war were all given a choice to go back home,
but they CHOSE to stay. They are technically war refugees so they can not vote etc,
but do not pay taxes and receive many benifits.

What's funny/sad about them is that they take so much pride in sending
money to Korea and weakening and defaming Japan, but the Koreans despise them too,
since they left their country in hard times and did/do not serve their country,
living a safe and good life in Japan.

Of course through generations there are decent individuals and families
who want nothing to do with politics and want to purely live as Japanese.
But when they are seen as a part of a group who wants to plot against Japan and overtake
and colonize your country, you can't help it that many would be wary of them.

If you think this is all nationalist conspiracy propaganda, I suggest you look into it on your own.

>>6

your english is amazing lol. also very interesting, i never knew that about zainichi.

>>7
Your English isn't that bad either.

The zainichi soccer player who represented NK in the World Cup this year said it best:
"I am not Japanese. I am not Korean. I am Zainichi".
That I imagine is the stance some of the younger generation of zainichi have,
but if you consider political aspects it just doesn't work.
Just like the gypsy problems in EU.

>Your English isn't that bad either.

lol

>>8

I hope it isn't bad! That would be concerning.

Gypsies sell cheap (often illegal) stuff in the EU. I went to a Spanish gypsy market once, and everything was fake or pirated but was really cheap. It was great.

There is little difference between the two

>>10
Do they sell like DVDs and stuff?

>>12

Yea, they had mats with pirate DVDs of films and software for a few euros each (a few hundred yen).
Bedtime for me, it's very late here.
おやすみ

グ・ナイナイ

To nanashi,(I'm not >>6, >>8, by the way)

>why is English part of compulsory education?
I'm not sure bur maybe America occupied US after WWII. Plus, English has been
an international language so if US hadn't occupied Japane, English would have become a
mandatory subject at school amid internationalization.

>how do you all speak English so well? Have you learned it in university or through travel?
Average Japanese people are terrible at English although they studied it at least 6 years because
Japanese English education isn't focused on communication or interaction with English speaking people.
It's focus is grammar and reading, not writing and speaking and getting a good score in University entrance
Exam is a top priority. Communication in English isn't the goal of Japanese education. Just for Exams.

Don't take English proficiency of poster's here as Japanese people's
average. People here who can post long post in English is an eception. They studied their share of English quite a
long time on their own besides school English education with
their own different goals of studying English, such as getting a job in
a foregin affiliated company or good paying job and stuff in mind.
School English education is a basis to improve your English but it's not enough to become
an advanced English learner. I guess traveling a few weeks and months
doesn't count at all when it comes to language aquisition. It takes long term persistance and commitment,
ditermination to become fluent in a foreign language.
University English education sucks so basically it doesn't contribute to improvement of English.

>And lastly, why is there so much mingling of Japanese with English? Especially technical terms,
Probably science was advanced more in western countries and those technical terms were imported to Japan. That's why I think.
PC was born in US so PC and computer related terms were imported from US and maybe that's why.

>but also words in popular culture and company names.
Sad to say, but in Japanese people's mind, whether consciously or unconsciously,
something from English speaking countries is considred to be cool. So probably, that's why.
I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly, though.

Anyway, what I wrote above is just my observation.

wtf its 36degrees.

what a shito is me!!!!???
oh...my god!
why? don't gift me beutiful face!
I want to be the nice gay....

our district is 38 degrees Celsius !

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miss spell

shito→shit

>>19
where?

meow... meow... meow...

>>22
Nara

>Burakumin

This problem is deep rooted and it's still surviving although it depends on
where you live. As someone said that some from younger generation don't even know
what it is, while in western part of Japan, some people know what it is
even though they are young.

As far as I know, people in Kyoto and Osaka are very conscious about this problem.
I heard there are posters and sign boards in the streets or in buses, claming to protect human rights is
important and stop discriminating against burakumin. Recorded Anouncement in the bus says discrimination is bad
while announcing the names of the bus stops. This is a sure sign that discrimination there is stil exist.

Somebody I know declined marraige when it turned out that her potential husband is Burakumin.
You know Q&A websites where people ask questions and those who can answer the question answer them, do you?
Even in this day and age, there are still questions relating to Burakumin, like,
"I'm thinking of getting married with this man/woman I've gone out with but,
there's a possibility that she/he is Burakumin. What should I do? Are there
any ways to confirm it except asking my bf/gf directly?"

or

"I want to get married with him/her but my parents don't agree with and
aren't happy with marrying with him/her because he/she is burakumin.
Marriage should be celebrated by parents and relatives so I'm thinking of
giving up marrying with him/her even though I still love him/ her."

>>6
i guess your description about zainichi is mostly correct,
but "taking over japan" just doesn't make sense.
What would take for them to make it real?

Any democratic tactics will not work:
Because, even if all of them migrate into japan
still number of japanese is much larger.

Military coup? maybe suddenly all zainichi yakuza take up the guns and
seizure our government.

These exchange of opinions in online Q and A website can be seen even now.
Some occupation such as butcher or Japanese drum maker is a sure proof that
they are burakumi while some burakumin have a job in topnotch Japanese company since
discrimination against burakumin getting a job became illegal. It's said that that last discrimination
against Burakumin is said to be marriage discrimination. Because in your brain, you
understand discrimination is bad but somewhere in your hearts, getting married with burakumin can't be
welcomed with open arms. I think most American is against racial dicrimination but what if your sibilings,
children said they want to get married to African American? If you are Caucasian American, you wouldn't welcome
that with open arms, I suspect?

Until a few decades, the districts where Burakumin lives was very poor with shabby buildings and roads and
very easy to ditect for even people who don't live near the districts but now each municipal governments that
has Buraku districts used tax money and made these areas clean with new apartment and houses so it' getting more
difficult to spditect where burakumin lived.
Still words from your grandparents or parents pass down for later generatin to know where Buraku district was.

It's not so rare that crimes of Burakumin in municipal governments throughout Japan made the headlines.
As I said, discriminating burakumin when they do job hunting became illegal, so some can get a good job
after graduating university but some burakumin is still relatively poor and have no good education and
they are hard to get a job in private companies. So municipal governments that have Buraku district
have slots in their municipal government jobs set aside for Burakumin, like public bus driver,
cleaner, sewage plants and such.

One Burakumin in Nara Prefecture just went to work just 8 days in more than 5 years
while he got his salaries for the period. No his boss or collegue in his municipal government couldn't make him
come to work. Because he has tie with yakuza. Yakuza and Buraku has a very strong connection.
Former head of Public Security Intelligence Agency said 60% of Yakuza is Burakumin, 30%zainichi, 10% is chinese living in Japan and
Japanese. Burakumin's organization called "Buraku Liberation League" is almost a criminal organazation like Yakuza.

The scale of Buraku districts and Burakumin's population differ.
Some are in urban area. Some are in moutain villages. It's hard to lump all Buraku problems
together.

Burakumin isn't different from the rest of japanese ethnically while African american
is ethinically different from white American.

That's interesting in a way.

>>25
I've lived in kyoto for several years. I don't remember any bus announcement or signs.
But considering the fact that many of bus drivers are the buraku people,
it's possible. And in any case, the problem is still very salient in kyoto.

korean didnt eat beef before war. zainichi-korean invented yakiniku and yakiniku source
its famouse as yoshida source in US. yoshida is actually korean who was born in Japan.
sliced beef is Japanese style since edo period. South Korea imported it after war. thats a korean style.
so zainichi-korean invented Yakiniku at Japan.

meat industry, fisherman, show-biz, bank are low class job in edo period.
poeple thought that animal killer can kill human. so when murder was happend. police find
meat industry or fisherman first because of stereotype. that was buraku.
but as a result. buraku made yakuza group. and they do murder in fact.
and after war. they absorbed zainichi-korean society. so yakiniku, crab swindle,
they uses crab to hide a drug, illegal bank, pachinko. and celebritys.
they are not victime at all.

>>26
All you need to do to take over a country is to put your people in influential posts.
Politicians, head of media corporates, advertisement companies, celebrities.
Do that, and you have a country that is pro-you.
And you have the masses who won't mind the country being pro-you,
because the mass-media they trust and worship would tell them it's hip and cool to be pro-you.

You must like the word pro-you.

Do you know who stickman is?

spoken english is difficult for me.

>>32
Fisherman is not a low class I think. And there is no relation to Buraku.
But meat industry tends to remind us of Buraku.
Because many Japanese learn four occupations (士農工商) at school,
and the rest lower occupation is typically depicted like a man washing or stuffing animal skins beside a river.
Such places is typically Buraku. Indeed at certain riverside areas,
many meat processing facility or leather industry exist along with human rights center and welfare facility and public apartments.
Meanwhile, fisherman evoke Japanese of adventurous and proud images.
Maybe fishing industry is a very long tradition as the island nation, they don't hesitate to kill fishes.
It's rather positive and excting things.
But these people who doesn't have a long tradition to kill farm animals,
usually hesitate to kill them and that's why meat or leather industry were subject to discrimination.

>>33
Yes. Korea wave is so unnatural. TBS is now Korea media isnt it?

The olympic gold medalist swimmer Mr. Kitajima's parents business is butcher,
which naturally means he is a burakumin.

But descrimination against Burakumin is getting soft,so he can make appearnce on
TV and praised by everybody for his accomplishment.

If 50 years ago, things wouldn't be the same. Burakumin is burakumin no matter what,
no matter if he wins gold medal. Burakumin couldn't spend money for swimming school tuitions.

If you are interested in Burakumin, "The River with No Bridge" and "The Broken Commandment"
are good reads.

http://www.amazon.com/River-No-Bridge-Tuttle-Classics/dp/0804833273/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1285151979&sr=8-6
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Broken_Commandment

Why do Japanese authors and artists have a history of using pseudonyms?
It seems as if they like using nicknames. Is it because they value
privacy or is it a cultural thing or tradition?

That's because given names are usually too boring for the entertainment
industry.
I guess the artists want to be remembered by using flashy names instead of
their own.

Yeah, but it's not just recent entertainment. It seems like if you
get a nickname in Japan, it's gonna stick with you until you die.

>>37
recent researches of history prove that there was no lower class than merchant.
its a Burakumin's propaganda. there was no clearly buraku at edo period.
it was started since Meiji period. farmer started discrimination to other farmer group.
and buraku people made them worse than before by themself. by creating propaganda and crimes.

>>40
chinese character has meanings. there are beautiful characters and dirty characters.
so entertainer uses beautiful characters for their public name. or just to hide their true name.
especially. korean like to do it.

>>31
i'v ever watched the man Yoshida at a TV program
he is korean?
That's just what I thought.

-10 points for koreandor

i was born in tokyo and still live in tokyo
so i'm very surprised to hear of the story of burakumin here.
especially about bus
i never have heard somebody said " he/she is burakumin "or something

why people feer of marriage with burakumin is
there is high possibility that his/her linages are yakuza. which means natural born criminals.
even if he/she dosnt have problem, linage will bring problems. unacceptable problems.
ex. child fight with burakumin child. that child didn't know that other child is a burakumin.
then tens of burakumin yakuza came to that child's house. and call it discrimination.
so they demands money from parents. or killed.
thats why people feer of marriage with them.

Natural born criminals? What a load of shit.
Go back to North Korea you asscracker.

there are a lot of people who was attacked by buraku yakuza because of their banter.
so people say "don't touch burakumin". because "you will be killed if you get their anger"
then burakumin say "don't touch burakumin" is actually a evidence of discrimination.

pikumin

however　ｔhe only thing that is certain is that　it is the severe discrimination of buraku that
created the monster called burakumin as we know it today

>>47
Even Tokyo has buraku districts. It's just that people's influx to Tokyo
has made buraku districts hard to distinguish.

But as I wrote, there are specific kinds of jobs that only Burakumi is involved,
so those people are tracked and found Burakumin.
I forgot but there are wards in Tokyo where there are many people in leather
industry. It's a sure sign of buraku district. Not the whole ward but part of wards.

So if you went overseas and saw a tanner or butcher, would you look
down on him? Or do you only give a shit if he's japanese/in Japan?

>>49
you fluent in english swearing? i like "asscracker"

>>54
I think butcher is considered to be a low class job.
Have you seen Rockey? In that movie, the boxer's (Silvester Stalone) job
works at meatpacking company/factory. He puched hung cow's bodies like a
sandbag if I remember correctly.

Working such a factory is depicted as a symbol of low paying job and
by becoming a champion, he climbed up social status.

there are many traditional japanese manners. and there are many japanese who much care about it.
these theoly is obviously effective in Japan.
if there is a japanese butcher in overseas, its same as when you see african who eat raw meat.
feel disgusting for a money. then think about culture in that country.

it seems to be absolutely nonsense that the people live in tokyo discriminate
those who are involved in butcher or leather industry in tokyo
why they must do so?

>>58
Because they were former "Eta" or "hinin," and they weren't considered to be
human being. They were called "Yotsu," meaning " four (4)."
Animals have four legs that's why Burakumin was called "Yotsu."

I'm not talking about my perspective to Burakumin.
I'm just talking about the fact.

Discrimination is alway nonsense in a way.

The only thing that is certain is your face.

>>53
However, some people just choose to work in those industries or live in the area,
probably because they can earn more or it's just convinient, and most likely they don't really care.
so keep in mind that they aren't necessarily burakumin, though. That's how tokyo is.

"Etta" is a girl's name

>>59
yotsu measn 4 legs though. that not mean they are animal.
Japanese didnt eat 4 legs animals becasue religion.
and they are first people who ate 4 legs animals.

fish no legs. birds 2 legs. cow,pig,hourse 4 legs.

>>63
The way I heard and remember is #4 of this though.
http://alturl.com/epfjk
Even Dragonball got complaints from human rights activists regarding this.

Today's weather is what !Thunder sounds and heavy rain is falling. Japan finished.

Osaka Zyuso finished.

>>67
Did thunder fall?

>>68
Several times.
I have never heared such a devastating sound...
Very scary...

yay!

guys!

^^/

I need to port my name to this system~

ショック死した白人もいるみたい

Sparky is far more frightening than thunder.

tornado warning was announced in Osaka

No. I am more frightening.
Look... There is someone behind you.

It would only be frightening if Sparky was behind me.
Or Ronald McDonald.

海外在住経験がある場合、具体的な都市名をききなさい。

>>77
fuck off if you don't write in english.

I am frightening enough. I am the Kame Girl of this thread.
Kiss kiss.

>>78 watch your language please. dont discourage anyone please.

asshole

毎週北海道いけって？　なんで飲み屋でナンパしちゃだめなんだよ！
ホテルもだめって、俺、坊主じゃねえよ

The holiday has come!
I wish it is a good day for us.

>>68
thunder does not fall. there really is no word for what thunder does. you can say "I heard thunder" or "I saw lightning".
>>76
what does mcdonald's serve in japan? japanese food? or hamburgers and fries and chicken like in the us?

>>84
Thank you
Lightning is right .

the thunder come here from South
rumbling now

i must stop using the internet

fuck thunder damn it!

anybody chinese here?

Im japanese live in tokyo, and I would like to live in overseas.

A chief prosecutor of the special investigation unit at Osaka district prosecutors' office have been arrested.
I never heard of such a big scandal in my life.

Local summer festival in Japan
http://dearastro16531.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/local-summer-festival-in-japan/

>>89
It's ridiculous of his excuse!

your face is ridiculous

almost all japanese comments are too boring
at first write what you actually want
who care about wheather or temperature

Ridiculous things are constantly happening in Japan.

>>93
These are not our comments but our practice.

>>93
I don't care if you get bored.

the japanese say the weirdest things

As compared to comments made by the people from the US?

i very much prefer weather over weeaboo pikumin bullcrap thats full of shit.

>>99
Totally agree.

you all are generalising americans.
not all of us are like that. only the goth-loli weeaboo neets. and that's probably most people who try to talk to japanese people.
a more accurate description is "brainless zombies who blindly follow the government and news media's propoganda"

the americans say the weirdest things

>>101

copycat. but yea, go to 4chan and go to the section /b/. It's pretty weird.

>>102

also, nanashi, "americans" does not require an article. i said "the japanese" because the word "japanese" can be an adjective referring to something from japan, but with a "the" it takes the meaning of "people from japan".
the word "americans" can only mean people from america, so it does not need a "the" and thus that sounds a bit odd.

*i meant >>102 when i said >>101

>>101
ah no, i (99) m not talking about americans, but the general full-of-shitness that surrounds those topics (weeaboo, pikumin etc).

>>1 Thank you for making this thread.

About the news that Hiro Mizushima left from the office, Kenon
for his aim to be a writer.
In my opinion, I wonder if his novel is successful and he can care
for her wife, Ayaka, has an illuness and still stop activity of herself
as a singer. I don't know if his novel isn't successful at all.
Anyway, he shouldn't have done that. Instead of that, he should have
taken the way of Gekidan Hitori, Tomoharu Shoji and so on.

>>106
what are pikumin?

>>97
you are overgeneralizing the Japanese; not all of us are like this. only people who spend too much time watching anime.
http://livedoor.2.blogimg.jp/laba_q/imgs/7/0/706ae5d1.jpg

>>108
they live somewhere in japan. other than that, no clue.

Pikumin is an acronym, I think.

>>109
actually i'm not talking about the anime stuff. i'm talking about the other things.
for one, you all speak so formally. english is a harsh language. you don't have to be so polite.
also >>109 i like your picture there. very insightful. do you want me to grade it?

Pikumin is now sleeping next to me,huh?

Ozawa Maria canceled her visiting to China. because Chinese are dangaer now.

Communist of China feer Japan. they know that they can't defeat Japanese army.
but they feer Chinese civilians too. they are crazy mob. recall the Chinese mobs when Olympic.
The General chinese are most danger. in last Japan-China war.
Chinese mob slaughtered Japanese civilians who lived in China cruelty.
The history is repeatation. China will do same.

>>112
No idea what you are doing here, but this is a place for Japanese people to practice English.
The worst thing to do when learning a foreign language is to butcher it.
Your advice is ridiculous.

>>99 japanese people are polite. You are not.

quite seriously why does this thread resent foreigners who are into Japanese subcultures so much,
when there is an open invitation
"Weeaboos from all over the world" on the thread header.

They should ban them so that these irritated lot stop whining all the time.

says the whining weeaboo.

Speaking of subculture, I visited 4chan at the first time on other day.
For killing time till K-ON!! started on TV, I looked some threads of /a/(anime and manga board)
and I found K-ON thread there.
It catched me so I read it closely.
They said they were streaming.
I mean they would watch k-on at same time as Japan.
it surprised me a little.

sorry for my english

though I stay here for months iv never read what >>1 says
it's funny
>>1 is japanese or foreigner?

may be,....

I am lovesick.

>>199 how can a weeaboo ask to be banned? use your head.
sometimes your shallow thinking amazes me.

Guys, I'm going to be in Japan in October. We should hit up some bars and
cause an international incident or two, champs.

I think there are hardly any real Japanese people on this board.
This is like a bar where people drop by after hours in their
time zone and have a fight and leave.
some visit before they go to work, some before they go to bed.
Others are hikikomori who are in all the time.

>>122 who is she (he)?

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And what?

>>84
Now The Quarter Pounder is \200 in Japan.
It's under campaign

What is Quarter Pounder?

The Quarter Pounder is a hamburger containing a patty with a precooked weight of a quarter of a pound(whole burger).

>>130
htp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarter_Pounder

Is it a hamburger with patty of around 100g?
Is it so special, isn't it? I don't think 100 g is not so much of volume.

It would be a special treat for the working poor in Japan.

1pound　＝　400g？

>>133
Then I recommend Doble Quarter Pounder. But this around 500Yen. This is not under the campaign I think.
http://f.hatena.ne.jp/images/fotolife/G/GreenLabel/20081207/20081207132356.jpg
But I have heard a much bigger hambuger exists in the US.

the economy of Japan is ok. there is no problem. but policies are crazy.
there are economical supports for regular employ. but no support for part-time jobs.
even American cant believe this. there is no support for homeless in Japan.
and no one care about it. this is crazy. most Japanese believe that is normal way.
if there is a foreigner who think they can live in japan easily just like other advanced country,
thats very wrong thought. there is no job for foreigner. even Japanese are starving.

Japan should hold bum fights. That way the only the strong ones survive,
so they aren't a burden.

see crazy. they dont know meanings of economical supports.
as a Japanese. I am very ashame of it.
its not for bum. its for national benefits. they cant understand it.

i like kenta　better than mac

and USUAL WAY OF INTERNATIONAL.
even US do economical support for homeless and part-time job.
this is madness. just like SPARTA.

So many working poors here on this thread.

>>142
if you think that only working poor care about plicies of Japan, you are sick.

>>143
You were so excited enough that made me think you are one of them.

It is cold today. I wore the sweat suit. It is first jersey.

But it seems that it is getting warmer and warmer every year

>>116
if this is a thread to practise english, then how is it bad that you have a native english speaker to talk to?

>>147
I guess he is just a frustrated poor individual, or he
might as well be trying to practice English by provoking a
native speaker to a quarrel.
Anyway, autumn has come to Japan, finally.
No more sauna, thank god.

i want to visit japan. i want to see sakura trees and winter in sapporo and disneyland tokyo and giant mecha robots and godzilla... wait, do those actually exist?

>>149
How about going to Washinton DC famous for sakura ?

Eating an apple under those Sakura trees in Washington DC must be
something.

this is indeed the thread for japanese english learners.
but >>1 say here is widely open to all people including foreigners
so the foreigners should write here without reserve
there is various people in 2ch
It's never enough to mind such an accusation

yea i saw those when i went there once. japan gave us those in 1912?
it's not the same, it only works if it's in japan. they are pretty though.
honestly washington d.c. isn't that impressive. also it has a huge crime rate.
>>151 never ate an apple under them.

>>153
DC is not a bad city at all.
Huge crime rate? Sure.
But which cities are safer than DC with enjoyable city life?

By the way, where are you from in the US?

>>154
I'm from a suburb of Philadelphia, PA but right now I live in Boston, MA.

>>156
Boston. Good for you.
I live in a big city (or just-like-a-big-suburban city) in TX.
I've visited DC three times, and impressed with the city.
But, if you live in Boston, you can surely diss DC.

haha well boston has its share of crime. the area i'm in isn't bad though.
i know so many people from texas. i wonder why...
there are the ones with the accents and the ones without accents. you can always tell who's from a city.

Texas and their accents remind me of Ross Perot.
I wonder if he's still alive?

>>157
DO you go to one of the prestageous uni in Boston?
If so, what's your major if I may ask?

>>159
Yes, Northeastern University, Computer Science major with a possible Japanese minor (or something similar).
Not MIT or Harvard but for what I'm doing it's a great school. MIT is for computer engineers and chronically depressed people and Harvard is for doctors and lawyers.

I've never been to the United States. Since I've been learning the language
for years, I hope one day to visit it and have a look at the cherry trees.

Prestigious universities seem to collect a lot of depressed people here
in Japan because fun loving people couldn't put up with rote learning,
detailed memorization the big tests require as a gate-keeper.

>>160
Thanks. Someone who used to frequent here goes to University of Southern California.
He moved from Chicago to California. He has homestayed in Japane for a few weeks when
he was a high school student. He said he wants to get a job in Gaming industry.
His access was denied through PC so He often aceess here with iPod touch with wifi when he was
a high school student.

I wonder why you can aceess here now that (almost)all of the access from US seemed to be denied.
Most of the people from US tried to use proxy to access here but 2ch kept denying access
one by one, it seemed.

Another woman was going to Cali tech when she frequented in Japanese to English
translation thread. Her Japanese was impressive and great enough to communicate
with Japanese people in the thread. She didn't make it clear where she landed a job
but she hinted she got a job where she can take advantage of what she had studied at her uni.

Judging from the fact that she studied OS realated thing and her moved to Wahington state,
chances are she got a job in MS.

>>162
Most US private schools and are unaffordable for middle income parents,
unless their kids get scholarship, but it is almost impossible for international
students to get.
Parents have to pay 25+k tuitions plus living expenses.
Grad schools are cheap, and you'll have a lot of fun if you are a nerd like me.

>>161 ...or lack thereof.
>>162 Universities (more commonly called colleges) here in the US are where most people have the best times of their lives. Unless you double major in an engineering field in MIT, then maybe not.
>>163 I have never had, nor ever have heard of anyone having, problems getting to 2ch from the US. I don't know of any reason why it would be blocked. I'm typing this through my university's network, without a proxy.
I would love to get good enough at Japanese to be able to do translations. I have a friend here who wants to too. Anyone have any good Japanese-learning advice?

>>163
(I am the TX guy above.)

I can access to 2ch without any problem. Now I am using my university network,
but even via public wi-fi at place like coffee shops,
I haven't experienced denial so often.
There seems not so many "arashi" or "spammers" in the US,
and so most of web hosts are not banned.

>>164
This school is over $40,000 (￥3,500,000) per year in tuition. I got a scholarship though, so I'm paying only a few thousand a year.

>>167
40k! wow!!
No wonder repayment for student loans became a big social issue.

What's the proportion of students paying full-tuition?

>>168
Dunno. The people I've met I think all get some form of scholarship, grant, or financial aid.

>>163
Another man who used to frequent here and bannd later said, he can aceess from
high school lab while he can't acess 2ch from his home. So maybe accesses from university or
high school networks aren't denied by 2ch.
Wifi aceess seemed to be OK, too because as I wrote in >>163, he was able to
access with iPod touch with wifi function.

I heard comcast and other major ISPs are denied by 2ch. Not sure though.

Guys majoring computer science want to start your own business and become
a millionaire like Google or Facebook fouders or land a job in a big corporation?

Are you thinkg of going to see the movie Facebook?
Facebook seems to be a world sensation althuogh here in Japan, Mixi is the dominent SNS.
FAcebook is said to have sent best of the best engineers of theirs to catch up
Mixi but I wonder if their localization will succeed.

>>171
It would be difficult. Mixi is too big, and there is Gree trailing it.
Ebay failed in Japan because yahoo auction was already too big.
Myspace Japan failed, and Myspace itself is dying now.
Twitter was successful though, since it was a different type of SNS.

>>171
Japanese facebook looks complete to me. I'm not fluent enough to say how good it is but it's totally translated.
The film here is called "The Social Network". I may see it, it looks good.
I've had a facebook account for years and everyone I have ever met over 16 and under 35 years old has a facebook account, including people in Europe. I don't know about Asia so much.
It's common here to ask for people's last names when you get to know them so you can "friend" them on facebook. If someone doesn't have a facebook account then they get looked at weirdly. Then they are usually forced to make one by their friends.

>>172
You're right.

>>173
Regarding the tile of the movie, I may be wrong.
Not sure its localization is complete or not but if they enter Japanese
market, they have to know Japanese users befaviors on the net, Japanese
online trend inside out. I think Japanese SNS has big advantages.

Google is dominent in US an Europe but in Japane, Yahoo Japan is larger share than
Google. Probably because Yahoo Japan started a lot earlier than Google Japan.
You have to be custom tailor any service to make it in foreign markets.
We are more famniliar with Mixi and Gree than Facebook.

And Mobile is the key in future internet experience so mobile freindly services will survive.

The woman who got a job in MS didn't use Facebook although she said she took facebook's interview test or something.
I guess she chose MS because of her major in uni. SHe said she failed in Google's test after
moved on to second or third screening process.
Maybe she has Facebook account already after she started working.

>>174
Getting a job in Google is very difficult.

Also, facebook is entirely mobile-friendly. I guess it is different though in Japanese markets.

And I'd try out Google if I were you, I find it much better than Yahoo.
Especially the translation services. Google's is far superior.

Is there a bulletin board system like 2ch in the US?

>>175
I use google already.
But some people with little net literacy in Japan, senior citizens and whatnot
think Yahoo Japan equals Internet.

Many people set Yahoo japan as a homepage of their brower and I'm one of them
I never search on Yahoo Japan though.

Thanks to some clever "manipulating" of where I live, I made a mixi profile.
I'll have to spend some time comparing mixi and facebook. One obvious difference is that mixi tries to block anyone from outside Japan.
I don't like that. That only promotes Japanese isolationism and xenophobia.
In the US a restriction like that would be unheard of.
This is further complicated by the fact that mixi is only in Japanese. Facebook is available in 69 languages.
On a good note, the site design is pretty nice. And mixi does have the benefit of being able to change the side design.
The site layout looks much more similar to Myspace than to facebook.
>>176 yes, www.4chan.org

>>175
What about cleaning jobs in Gooleplex's men's room and women's room?

>>179
Google has some of the most advanced toilets in the world. It's true.
>>178
I meant "change the site design"

>>178
Never heard of Mixi's blocking registration from users overseas.
I even see some profiles who live overseas.

>>181
It requires registration confirmation using a Japanese cell phone if you use a public e-mail address provider like Google or Yahoo.
I tried scanning the QR code with my cell phone and it said my phone was not compatible.
So I had to sign up with my school e-mail address, and set my location to Japan to be safe.

Hmm... I don't remember having to confirm registration via cellphone when making
a Mixi account. Perhaps it's a new precaution.

Wouldn't really equate only letting Japanese residents join as xenophobia, though.
It's a little similar to those competitions that only allow, say, US or UK residents
only, which do that to limit liability and make it much easier to operate smoothly,
without having to consult lawyers/firms specialising in foreign law as to what they
can and cannot do.

When it comes to the Internet, it's very difficult to change the Japanese way of doing
things, as mentioned earlier in the cases of Google and eBay. Similarly, Mixi was around
four years before Facebook and three years before MySpace, so it's unlikely that
Facebook will become normal, though some users have both a Mixi and Facebook account.

Mixi changed the registration policy to keep spammers from getting multiple accounts for advertising purposes.
Basically one account per cellphone ID, and you have to have a cellphone to sign up unless you live outside Japan.
So, it has nothing to do with xenophobia though - it's actually less complicated for overseas users.
Also, you can change the language of your page to English, if I remember right. Just mess around with the settings, and you'll find it.

>>183
>Wouldn't really equate only letting Japanese residents join as xenophobia, though.

You speak very sophisticated English. Indeed.

That's because he is a real gentleman who honor Noriaki and COOL taku.

What is 'hentai gentleman'?

Look into the mirror.
What you see is what you are asking.

>>155
Philadelphia？I like Philly soul.

Japanese sakura also isn't so impressive, I think it much depends on situations..
Many Japanese workers neeed to sakura only for drink in a park..

Shall we group sex?

HEHEHE!!

Is there a bulletin board system like 2ch in the US?

4ch is just like 2ch. same borad system. but few people.
4chan is huge member. but just like VIP in 2ch.

What's VIP in 2ch?

a free talking borad. crazy people are there. for fun.

Philadelphia was scary.
I went there by a rent-a-car in my travel from Florida to the north.
Everywhere everybody was black.
All seemed poor.

What is the most popular BBS in the US?

http://www.4chan.org/

reminder on a regular basis

SLIM SHADY IS IN ALL OF US

I love Ritchan's forehead.

>>196 You should try Atlanta, GA. It's >50% black.
And it really depends on where you go. There are plenty of places in Philly to avoid.

>>193
4chan is much smaller than 2ch, but the biggest board by far there is /b/. That's where the memes are started (like how Japan has densha otoko, the shift-JIS art, and Touhou).
And much like in 2ch, they often use vocabulary that most English-speakers wouldn't understand.

My work has been finished .
This week was happy week because it have two special holidays.
I wish all week were like this week!

I am neet.

>>196
If you live in the US, almost 100% white place is not a place you want to choose.
You feel uncomfortable even though neighbors are welcome.
But, surrounded by too many african americans is not good as well.
Probably, good mix of white, black, latino, and asian is desirable.
Then, it's california.

http://4ch.irc.su/sukatoo/0004.jpg
\(^o^)/

>>205 are you that person in the photo?

>>205
Oh, Sparky. I thought you were joking but you are really a woman inside?
I don't know if I can call it costume play for fun or cross dressing as your hobby.

>>201
1) Do you think there are any White American who has never seen African American in person?
2) If so, where do you think they live? Alaska? rural states like colorado?
3) Does your college have many African American students?
4) WHat do you think of Affirmative action program? Do you think the system is reverse discrimination?

>>204
I am gay. so I want to go to california.
But I am chubby.
Is there need of chubby ?

>>210
I don't know. I am straight.
From my few experiences to go to deep gay place,
some of them were fatty and seemed happy with his boyfriend.
If you are not really really fat, then you'll be fine, I guess.

I am not >>201
but
1) highly unlikely.
2) the only situation I can imagine is to be born as a member
of isolated community, like amish, mormon fundamentalist
or other crazy religious groups. Some of them are exclusively white.
They intentionally shut down any influence from the outside.
3) exclusively white universities are not constitutionally permitted.

protestant americans are enough crazy though

most of them are decent people, but evangelists are actually crazy.

>>205
For some reason, your photo reminded me of this heroic gentleman who was much beloved by 2channelers.
I wonder what happened to him after all this. Pretty sure he's no longer in Japan but I hope he got home safe and sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFOhsnB7lpI

The China captain was released. Is it original judgment of a district prosecutor's office?
Or were they directions of the government? The opposition party should make it clarify.

DPJ=korean they are useless

>>216
right

It is cold today. What is this rapid change of climate?


The public prosecutor who released is incompetent.

>>208
1) agree with >>211
2) again agree with >>211
3) 4% are black. So I don't see them around very much. However, 10% are asian, and I see them all the time. Weird.
4) in the US there is a debate about that. right now colleges usually have an affirmative action programme, especially high-class ones.
thus, it is easier for blacks and hispanics to get into a university even if they have the same qualifications as a white person.
I have a mixed opinion. I agree that it is reverse discrimination, but I also think that without it it makes it a lot harder for minorities to get a good education.

I sometimes come across black, Germany, British, Hongkong in a cruising sauna at Umeda.
Even we Japanese see black people walking at big terminals like Umeda.

>>204
I felt almost physical danger in Philadelphia.
I couldn't find a white person.
Their houses showed they were very poor.
It's very different from other cities in the US.
I'm not a racist.
If it was a city in Africa, I wouldn't be that scared.

Is the hurricane gone now? What is happening? Why are the temperatures
so high in Japan? It is cold and rainy in England.

>>222 when is it not cold and rainy in england

>>221
So why not go to Somalia or Johannesburg ?

>224 Johannesburg has a lot of white people too.

When I had lived in America,I met a fundamentalist guy and he had believed
everything what says on Bible.

He told me that people can go to Heaven only through Jesus,
so if don't believe Jesus I can not go to heaven.

>>224
Actually I think that's better than Philly.

>>226
i'm not a christian and i think what is written in the bible is
mostly a collection of myths.
but those fundamentalists(evangelicals) do have a certain level of logic
about the so-called inerrancy of the bible. it's just i don't buy it.

The typhoon seems to be approaching Kanto area. Strangely enough
it's not raining nor blowing hard. I wonder if it's calmness before
the storm.

>>228
america is the only industrialised modern nation that still has so many religious people. it's pretty odd. i think the Bible is just as true as any other collection of myths like the Qu'ran, the Vedas, or Homer's "The Odyssey".

>>214
ha　ha　ha　・・・・・・・everlasting

I read a very easy version of Kojiki, which was written for children.
Kojiki is a collection of Japanese myths but I could not help but
wonder how weird it was.
The two gods who created Japanese archipelago were actually a brother
and a sister and who copulated and produced four children, namely
Honshu, Kushu, Shikoku, Hokkaido.

>>230
as a literature, i agree with you.
but christianity has a distinct logic in it
that endorses and encourages the accumulation of wealth, in short, capitalism.
that character, in my opinion, differentiates christianity from other religions.

Jesus told the fishermen to come with him and then they just gave
up their nets and followed him, which seems to me they don't really
care about making money but trying to follow their good cause, or
whatever?

>>215
must be the direction of the japanese government
maybe Sengoku ,he was a student movement activist
in fact he is a communist even now

There is a game of the boxing of KAMEDA and Sakata today.
I worry about whether KAMEDA violates the rules again.
I want Sakata to knock out KAMEDA.

Now Chinese government is going to ask for compensation money for
the ship captain who went through the "hardship."

Kameda is the one playing the part of villain, right? Bad(big) mouthed
brat image... The public would like to see him knocked out?

Japan is a disadvantageous position with this affair.
Although the Liberal Democratic Party, the opposition party, is doing severe criticism,
this is also a result of Liberal Democratic Party's neglect primarily.

I wonder if the four Japanese businesspeople who are held custody
are going to be release now that the Chinese captain was released
and handed to the Chinese authority.

The most of the food we need come from China. We really should start
producing enough food to sustain ourselves otherwise they can take
advantage of our less than 30% of food self-reliance.

China has been asking for compensation of a captain restraint.
Probably four businessmen's release will be a bargaining point with that.

>>234
it's a little complicated.
true, the bible tells you to throw your wealth away or
believe in god, not in money or something like that.
the logic leading to capitalism is conceived in its interpretations (mostly of protestant)
rather than what it literally says.
christians (again, mostly protestants) think the wealth that results from diligent labor
is the evident proof that shows you are among the ones who are predestined to be saved,
which in turn motivates them to pursue, without reservation, wealth.

i think the US is undependable ally

that's because japan is undependable.

Isn't it just hardworking is being encouraged by the religion?
I bet you in almost every religion hardworking people are respected
and being lazy is frowned upon.

>>246
yes. but most religions do not encourage the accumulation of wealth.
that's the difference.

china does evrything the same way as Yakuza
any country cant stop red china's violence

Kimiko Date 40 years old won against a player ranked 20.
It's amazing!!!

china is now visibly worse (filthier and more threatening) than north korea,
and anyone who sides with china at this point is declaring war against humanity.

>>245
japan is in a different position from the us
there's japan-us. security treaty after both countries accepting the situation

>>247
uh-huh... I don't know if Bill Gates is a Christian but he's
collected so much wealth on his own and he also donates so much
of his money to needy people or good-cause institution. Does
that mean he is the guy closest to the God's will?

>>250
It seems to me North Korea is more threatening because they are
not a part of the U.N. whereas China is, right?

>>249
I admire Ichiro(37-year-old) as well as Kimiko Date. Both of them
amazingly keep their bodies in shape and are so self-disciplined!

It is a public prosecutor's disgrace again. Why is the dull human being acting as a public prosecutor?
For the moment, participation of a country is not clear.
The truth is not known.

>>252
I don't think so. North Korea was looked on as a loopy country through International society.
But, China is not looked as such a country. It is a member of main regular member of council in UN.
So, if it performed a very atrocities against other nations or people, it would just be blamed for it.

participation of a country is not clear ?

What is this meaning?

I don't think Maeda, that prosecutor, is a dull person.
Passing the qualification test of lawyers are very difficult, in that days when he passed it.

>>253
And Kimiko's racket is 380g.
Too heavyyyy!!

I think what >>254 means was "it's not clear if there was an intervention
by the Japanese government."

>>252

If North Korea had suppressed some minor people in the country, a lot of country in UN want to adopt the proclamation
condemning its deed harshly.

>>259
Which are you talking about friction with China, or the case of Maeda?

>>258
Is it heavier than usual? What is the average weight for a tennis racket?
Why does she want to use such a heavy racket, then?
Are there any good points using one?

>>261
Oh, I don't know. Let's ask >>254 what s/he meant...

>>260
What do you mean by "suppressing some minor people?"
You mean abductees?

No. For example, suppressed Nepal.

Did North Korea suppress the minority group of the Nepalese (Is there such
a word?) who are currently living in North Korea?
I'm sorry for keeping asking questions but honestly I don't know much about
what's happening in North Korea.

OMG, Dirty Nippon Released All Chinese Crew and Ship ...LOL
http://www.network54.com/Forum/211833/thread/1284412046/last-1285381452/OMG%2C+Dirty+Nippon+Released+All+Chinese+Crew+and+Ship+...LOL

これが中国人の反応

>>265
No. I didn't say such a thing. What I intended to talk about was that if North Korea had suppressed
some minority group, supposing that there are some, they are more harshly condemned by international societies
than China was.

This thread goes fast than ever:)
What happened to you all?

The prosecutor made a big mistake.
He shouldn't have considered political issues on his job even if he was pressured to do so.
China got an idea that Japan would change its law if it threatened to do so.

>>262
I think average weight around 300g. Nishikori has been suprised to see her racket
She swings the racket utilizing the centrfugal force made by it, and it becomes powerful and speedy shot, I think.
So it must be heave, which makes up for shortage of her power.

>>268
Ha-ha... I guess it's because of me... I'm so bored so I've been
playing solitare (originally a card game but you can play it on your
PC) and every time I lose my game, I check up on the thread and put
my message...that's why... Yeah, I should keep more quiet from now on.

>>269
We have nothing to do to admit what politicians tries to do, as we chosen such people as our
member of parliament.

>>271
You are a person of leisure, aren't you?

>>270
I've promised not to bother you all so much but now I've got an answer...
Thank you for replying to my question. Oh, I see.
So you are saying Date's racket is even heavier than Nishikori, who is a much
younger guy...
Doesn't that give her too much stress to her now-a-little-aging
muscles? I hope she will not sprain her tendons or ligaments.

>>211 >>219
Thank you for your response.
Regarding Q. 1) and 2)
Do you mean African American live even in Alaska, small towns in mid western states?

>>273

a person of leisure...I don't know for sure what it means but somehow
it sounds nice to me. I just take it as a compliment?!
Yeah, I have nothing to do before my dental appointment later today.
I know! Such a loser... I really should try to date or something.

>>272
At this point, it is not clear if there was political pressure on the prosecutor.

>>268
i thinkit is because many foreigners　become to participate in this thread suddenly.

theres way too many made in china crap in my room. we should move all factories to taiwan, indonesia, vietnam, etc.

>>275 There are black people everywhere, just less of them in less populated areas, generally.

>>241 Japan doesn't have much land in which to have farms. China has plenty of land.

Anybody want to explain to me the differences among the Japanese political parties?

chilling...cold as hell today...

(About you-know what problem between Japan and China)
What stupid and fool Japanese governmemt is! They shouldn't
have released that captain of the ship but avoid listening to the
saying of Chinese government. It is as if Japan is a dependency
of China...If they continue to follow Chinese selfish government,
they must have a collar on their neck as dogs of insolent China.
Rather, all I want them to do is to resign as politician due to doing
a treacherous act.

>>282
>They shouldn't have released that captain of the ship but avoid listening to the saying of Chinese government.

The prosecutor released the captain, not the government.
At this point, it is not clear if there was political pressure on the prosecutor.

where country do you live

The Liberal Democratic Party lawmakers are criticizing the Democratic Party.
They are criticizing as if the government was involving.
However, it is a wrong criticism in this time.

>>280
>There are black people everywhere, just less of them in less populated areas, generally.

I see. Thanks.

Even though I'm japanese, I don't know much about politics. All I know is
there are many parties in Japan different from two parties in US.
Current ruling party is DPJ(Democratic party of Japan).
Although Japan's ruling party had been LDP(liberal democratic party) for over
50 years after WWII.

Anyway, I'm not the right person to answer Japanese politics...

>>274
Yes. Nishikori's racket (probaly all other's as well) is lighter than Date's.
And she used strings very loosely stretched to bounce the balls long.
Such loose strings and heavy racket are due to her play style who doesn't enough power to tackle top players.
Recent her repeated injury is attributed to complete tear of her left Achilles tendon which occured 2002's exhibition match at Tokyo.
Because of this incident, her leg's size is quit different. These case tends to result in injury.
ttp://stat001.ameba.jp/user_images/20100512/01/kimiko-date/cc/23/j/o0400030010537649742.jpg
If a heavy racket is stressful to her, I think it burdens to arms or elbows rather than regs.

The offensive of future China is spectacular.

>>283
I see. Thank you for pointing out my mistake of >>282.

By the way, I've got a paper from Japan Pension Service(I'm 20).
But, I'm also a student of English of an university and can't pay
pension. So, I'm gonna take an exemption from paying it by using
special payment system for students.

>>289
Are you male or female?

Since it was too hot until now, although it is not so cold, I feel it cold beyond temperature.

>>291
Are you saying about the weather, or this thread?

>>292
The weather


this thread ? -The question to say is interesting.
Is the irony to this thread mixed?
I like this thread.

>>290
I'm male. Why do you ask me such a thing?

>>294
Because you seemed to have difficulties paying...

is there a point to this thread?

There is absolutely no point in this thread.

i need to find someone to teach me japanese... in exchange for learning english.
i don't know any japanese people personally, how sad.

>>298
You seems like a nice person so you will be able to find a good partner.
Many Japanese people would like to be your friend.

>>298
Many people say that kind of thing when it comes to language learning
but seriously, things aren't that easy, I think. How can you teach effectivley
a foreign language online from scratch in the first place?

I'd recommend brick and mortar way of learning especially when you're a
complete biginner.

Just teaching meanings of some words doesn't contribute to language aqusition much.
You need to be teached in more organized way like classes at school.
When you have no clues about your target language, it's sespecially important to
learn basics in organized way. Just teaching you a few words and phrases online get you nowwhere.

The best bet is you take a Japanese 101 at your uni or community center's Japanese classes or equivelant
and learn basics throughly.

Shut the fuck up.

>>300
I think your advice is absolutely right, however, too serious in this thread.
You sounds like a professional female teacher.

Such a fud-dy-dud-dy you are.

But if somebody believes he can learn by language exchange, he is naive.

>>302
OK, then, more casual answer would be.....

"Oh, yeah! Good idea, dude! Find your Japanese teacher on the Net then they'll teach you
Japanese from scratch! Before you know it, you'll master a basic grammars, hiragana, katakana...
and by the time of Halloween, you'll be able to read Japanese newspaper!
By the time of Thanksgiving, you'll be able to watch Japanese movies and dramas without subtitles!
By the end of this year, your Japanese will be far better than Japanese people and you'll be able to speak
Osaka dialect better than native Osakans, too!

I think the point in this thread is to have a ball.
Do not be a wet blanket.

>>300
Well, I'm not a total beginner by any means. I can read hiragana and most katakana, and some kanji, and I know no small amount of vocabulary
(though most of it is frequently-used conversational words, as I haven't learned through traditional instruction yet).
And I know the grammar very well and can speak it well (if I know what I'm saying). So having someone to teach me would be helpful, but they must know English.
It looks like there are a lot of Japanese who know English pretty well but want to know it better. I bet that's one of the reasons why a lot of you post here, no?
And I love to teach people things so it seems fair enough.
Yes, however, I will eventually take a Japanese course, but 101 is too easy for me.

>>305
Do not be a wet blanket.

I know it will take years before I become decent in it.

>>307
I hope you are female because I am male.

No.
Point of this thread or other threads in 2ch is free talking.
Do not surpress opinions unless it's too bad trawl.

Shut the fuck up.

>>310
You can't see the forest for the trees.
You forget you are in ２ちゃん.

>>311
Fuck off

>>310 Suppressing opinions? Not me. Attacking them, sure, but not suppressing.

>>309 Sorry but no. I wouldn't expect many girls'd be in this thread.
If it's anything like 4chan I'd say mostly 16-45 year old males.
But since everyone here is at least mostly fluent in English, the average would be older.
Ask 名無しさん＠英語勉強中 to tell you his/her gender.

>>311 >>313 woah there, somebody's getting heated.

>>312
>You forget you are in ２ちゃん.

Ha?
Why do you think so?

time for sleep.
みんなさん、おやすみなさい　(^^♪

>>307
Oh, so you're not a total beginner. I misunderstood.
I'm not in a situation where I can set aside time to teach someone Japanese but
some people here might be able to do that. But basically, 2ch is considered to be kind of
dangerous place to meet people and start a real (not vertual) interaction outside 2ch. (of course some people are nice.)

Anyway if you find your language partner here, just keep asking a language partner here would be a good idea.
If you ask a question about Japanese and I happen to see it, I'm definately
eager to answer it. Other Japanese people are happy to answer your question, too.

I think Facebook is a good place to find such a language partner if you can't
find them in Mixi due to the signup problem.

Google "lang-8." This is an SNS administered by Chinese raised in Japan,
(or naturalized Japanese of Chinese origin. I don't know but his name is Chinese
but he speaks Japanese better than Chinese) The SNS is made specifically for
language exchange where you correct each other's writing.

If you make friends with someone there, you can Skype or email or what ever you want.

>>316
Sweet dreams!

>>315
I'm here for fun, not for serious talking....but now and then talking seriously may be good.
Being stupid is the best way to get your stress away, especially for business persons in Japan.

>>319
Take your all clothes off and run and scream around in your neghborhood.
That's the best way to relieve your stress.

>>320
You forget I am a business person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vfouhgEUY4
9.11 ミステリー1　911事件の謎

>>319
Then say something fun yourself.
Don't try to control others here.

Shut the fuck up.

>>323
I've never try to control others here.I can't get what you are talking about.

Fuck off already

>>326
I am not a lady
>Fuck off all lady.

>>327
ツマンネNot fun

>>328
If you are woman, you are sexy.

>>329
Not fun either.

KAMEDA, a fake champion, plays a game today.

Anyone who knows how to improve English skills, please answer my questions.

Do you think it a good idea to write things you want to write here if you
want to improve your writing skill?

Do you think it is a good idea to try to read a lot of books in English?
When doing so, we should look up all the words we don't know or
forget about the detail and try to follow the story line?

What should we do if we want to be fluent? We should grab every
opportunity to speak to a seemingly English speaking person in the
train even if he or she seems to want to be left alone?

Taiikukai-kei-spirit, right?

Although a book is read, eyes only worsen.

writing english and speaking englis are much different.
important is "for what?"

OK, to be great at using English seems cool is not good enough, maybe.
Some people keep learning it for no special reason, probably including myself.
So do many of you study it to do business, to make money, or even to make friends
all over the world, which sounds like a joke, by the way, I mean the last one.

Just like the difference between masturbating and having sex.

The program of Arashi started.

Uh-huh. Needless to say it's much nicer to have sex than getting off by yourself.
Wait a minute. Actually you can speak to yourself all alone in your own room.
How sad it is though.

All I can do using English is Arashi?
How sad and how low my English skill is.

>>341
>Needless to say it's much nicer to have sex than getting off by yourself.

Depends on who you have sex with.

Yeah, very true. If you are forced to have sex with the ugliest possible
girl with malicious heart, it is like a living hell.

>>343
Right!
And it depends what you use as Okazu while getting off by yourself.

>>337
>writing english and speaking englis are much different.

Not so much different.
If you can write good English, you can speak good English.
Of course you have to learn correct pronunciation, but it's not difficult.

I bled from my anus when I made a hard shit this afternoon.

I think more people should talk to foreigners on the train. I'm going to
Japan soon and I'd love for someone just to start a conversation, and tell
me about their life and home country. If they don't want to talk to you,
just say:
"You're a cunt. You got a plane and came all this way just to be a cunt. Go
back to your cunt-tree"

>>347
You have a little symptom of heat-stroke, which dominated all across Japan this summer.

>>347
I think you've got piles. I advise you to go and see your doctor.

>>348
Are you a Japanese who doesn't want to be spoken to by a stranger in the train?

>>350
No, no, I am not in Japan.

Amazing. There are resident trolls getting thrilled by telling off
English speakers. they are like the demons of this board.

BTw There are two demons that frequently show up in drama, one in red theother in blue.
Are they folk characters found in Japanese mythology? WHo are they?
Thanks

>>353
they are called "Akaoni (red demon with one or two horns)"
and "Aooni (blue version of Akaoni)"

>>349>>350
Thanks for you to care about my anus or head.
Toilet made me meet you.

So what's everyone doing tonight?

>>354 ah thank you... let's call the demon trolls of this thread
Akaoni and Aooni from now!
Do you agree?

>>356
I only sleep.

I'm waiting for the イギリス人-san, and looking forward to his giving me a comment on my posts today!

I go to sleep soon.

Talking to people on long train journeys can often be interesting. When I
was sixteen, a man in a wheelchair was sat beside me on a train journey, and
we started talking. He had a huge lump under his shirt, which was pretty odd,
and his socks were white with patches of red. It turned out he had been beaten
and had both his ankles broken by a gang of Pakistani youths in his hometown.
Because he had, without provocation, stabbed one of them. He pulled out a bag
of clothes from under his shirt, which was tied shut by a police tag, as he'd
just been released from police custody. He said that he wanted to write a book
because he was interested in psychology, then tried to tell me where the best
place to pick up prostitutes and buy drugs from, in the city of Hartlepool.
Once we reached the destination station, he launched
himself out of the train door without waiting for staff to bring a ramp, because
he was in such a hurry to find a fish and chip shop.

A train journey was also the start of a meeting which led to many trips to Russia,
but some of you know that story already.

>>359
What post was that?

I'm watching news blogs.

>>361
I used to work at Woolworths and had a guy just like that. They
always want to write books for some reason.

I have never eaten fish and chips.
It sounds delicious.

dont forget vineger with it

Woolworths was a good shop, they had good value for money.

Yeah, but the woolworths in australia is probably different. It's just
a supermarket/grovery store here. When I was working there they built
a liquor store in it and we got robbed a lot more, lol.

i like cheese more than natto. but its very expensive in japan. because there is no cheese culture.
so most of them are imported only.

>>348
Well, some English teachers in Japan wouldn't want to be botherd by
strangers on the train I think. When I had gone to English school(NOVA)
I actually heard them complaining about it. They said that since
they were tired from work they want to be left alone on the train.

Also they didn't want some Japanese to try to talk to them in English for
for practicing their English.

Looks like Kamome's back...

>>359
Ahh... any in particular? This thread has really been speeding by, and it's
difficult to keep up.

>>365-366
It's hit-or-miss, really. If you can find a good family-run or at least
local fish and chip shop, they usually do the best type. However, be careful
for chains, such as 'Barnacles', who do terrible fish and chips.

Independent fish and chip shops often use puns in their names, such as "The
Right Plaice", "Sole Food", "Fryday's", "Cod Almighty", "The Codfather", "Fishcotheque",
and "Just for the Halibut" being a few examples.

>>364, >>367-368
Never really appreciated it much at the time, but was handy to pick up things that might
not be in other shops, especially in a smaller town like mine. Now it's just another
online-only retailer that doesn't really sell anything of good value.

Heard about some of the strange Woolworths regulars from people who used to work there.

When I was in my early 20's, I was talked to by a middle aged man
who said he is a principal of a high school. I was told I look energetic
and asked to go and have a cup of tea after getting off the train.

I had no reason to have a cup of tea/coffe in a cafe with a total stranger, middle aged man
for that matter, so I declined his offer, saying I have an appointment with one of my friends.

I doubt he really was a principal of high school. I almost become like >>347
from a different reason.

>>361
Basically, I have no communicartion skills to become friends with a stranger on the
train. In your case, it was she. Women tend to be on alert when talking with a man who they
meet first, but you and she hit it off and went as far as to visitng her in Russia.
That's unbelievable.

Look at this difference between you getting along well with a woman on the train
and me on the verge of bleeding from anus. Life is unfair.

>>372
It's all luck-of-the-draw, I guess. But there are still many interesting people.
Your encounter was pretty creepy, but hope it hasn't put you off trying to speak to
people in the future.

The creepiest thing that ever happened to me was, I think, when I was 17, and
on a bus with some friends on the way to the cinema in the next town. Across the
aisle on the bus, and one seat in front, was an old man who looked like a
lighthouse keeper. He had a short white beard and was wearing a woollen hat like
sailors might wear. He kept turning around to glance at me and eventually said,
"You have nice boots, son". Then about fifteen minutes later, he turned around again
and touched my knee, and whispered "Dead men tell no tales...". I kept quiet throughout
that journey and was happy to get off the bus.

>>373
Sounds like a story from a Stephan Kings novel. hehe
I guess you were tall and had great build even at the age of 17, besids you are with friends
so he couldn't have harm you physically or anything.

>>374 I told you before, I think you have a crush on igirisu-san...
wwww

>>375
Indeed. If you want it, just be gentle too, and don't be shy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU

>>375
I don't get it. What do you mean?

>>376
Come one, don't pretend to be me....

>>376 Unfortunately I am female. Whatever your inclination, that is a retarded and repulsive approach you have.
You probably don't realise that.

from train stories.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tggT0csfAvg

yamanote halloween has been ended?

>>377 was posted by >374

I typed the wrong number in my name field.

Sorry I made you confused. I know no body cares but couldn't help but
telling you my mistake.

>>378
You are female? Show us your boobs and we will double click your nipples ><

It seems there are some native English speakers in this thread so
I want to write about how I have learned English.

I didn't like studying English at all when I was in school so I didn't
learn English grammar seriously during my school years. I thought it was too
complicated and much for me.

I still have some problems with English grammar structures I think.
SVOC ← Actually I still don't understand those. I really don't get
how I can make English sentences using those.....or put them together.
(basically, I'm not very smart so if I try to put them together,it
will give me a headache)

After I graduated from school I went to America and that was how and where
I learned English. I had lived with a family and they had a five year
old boy who liked to play with me all the time.

I didn't want to play with him at first because since my English
ability was very poor he didn't take my words seriously or listen
to me. He always tried to get my attention and make me play with him.

By the way, I thought American kids were wild because I was told that do not
give them too much sugar otherwise they would get hyper.
I thought what's hyper?? I had never heard of it in Japan. American kids were
different.

American kids were also so bossy to older people(or me-because I couldn't
speak English well so maybe they just had thought I was one of them, especially,
since I look very young compare to other American people about my age. ).

Anyway I tried to copy whatever the five year old boy "Matthew" said so
finally His older brother told me that I sounded just like his little
brother when I talk. Their mom also told me that it's not good that
I sounded like a kid so she tried to correct My English accent to sound
more mature.

Most of the time I learn English from talking to people or reading
so I don't know how to write decent English sentences like some other
Japanese people here. (well, since I don't use English for work I don't
study really hard)

That's how I learned English but after I came back to Japan long time ago
I have lost my speaking ability since I don't need to use it.

Sometimes My friend in America call me on Skype and correct my funny
pronunciation but still not good.

I'm getting sleepy..so I guess my sentences would be very wired
because my brain doesn't work anymore I'd better go to sleep.　

suger makes child hyper. I heard it many times in the movie. I think that its kind of urban legend in US

>>381
Show us your balls so we can kick them.
Retards like you need to be castrated.
Stupid preverted idiot.

cum on dont be shy, cum over here and shit in my mouth.

>>382-383
Your sentences look fine to me. Can't say about the accent though.

On English accents:
There are a few things that Japanese frequently mispronounce when speaking English. The #1 mispronunciation is L and R.
In Japanese, this sound is one sound that sounds like a mix between the English L and the Spanish R.
In English the L is pronounced with the tip of the tongue touching the back of the teeth, and the voice coming out of the sides of the tongue.
The R is a bit harder. It's like saying が but before the k sound, hold your tongue near the top of your mouth, purse your lips (kind of like when saying お) and then make a voice going across the centre of your tongue.
Resist the urge to nasalise it (no air should come out of your nose)In reality your tongue should be a bit farther forward though.

Another thing that makes a Japanese accent obvious is when there are two consonants together and a Japanese person will try to put a vowel sound between them.
For example, in the word "sleep" the closest thing to it in katakana is「スレープ」, but then it would be pronounced like "suleepu" in English.
A Japanese person should learn (through practise) to ignore the vowel sound after consonants in situations like that, making "sulee-" into "slee-" and "pu" into just a "p".
In American English we often replace final consonants with glottal stops, such as that p or the letter t. We make the mouth position for the letter but close our throats so it isn't sounded.
This is similar to when you say a vowel like あ in Japanese, you make the "ah" sound then cut off your voice.
So "sleep" is more like "slee-(p)". This, however, doesn't occur in a standard British accent.

>>332-334
Reading books is good. When I was very little, I would read books but I was too lazy to look up words I didn't know. I tried to figure their meanings from context.
If you're very good at English and think you can guess a word's meaning, I'd say you don't have to look it up. But if you have no idea, then look it up.
Reading English aloud helps fluency a lot too, even if you look like you have a mental disorder doing it.

There is no English man who try to speak fulent Japanese. except Ken Tanaka.

Who is Ken Tanaka ?

Hi, what's up?
I'm writing listening to American Forces Network.
This broadcasting is the best to be familiar with Englishis being spoken and get an English ear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awiW8UC3CWY

He is American commedian actually. native speaker though. His Japanese is perfect.

There is no Japanese man who never really lived in the USA but speak fulent English fluently except Kazuyoshi Kataoka.
Who is KazuKata?
He's writing [ listening to American Forces Network ].
This broadcasting is the best [ to be familiar with [ English being spoken ] and get an English ear ].
He is a Japanese commedian actually, [ retired [ English teaching ] high school teacher ] though.
His English is perfect.

>>392
I remembered　!
He had come out in the japanese TV program recently .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/interview

If you're interested in Japanese Yakuza, he, the former criminal reporter
of one of the Japan's major newspaper answers an interview of BBC.

>>387
It's like common sense in the US, but we still don't take it in Japan
because Japanese kids don't get hyper from having too much sugar like
American kids.

>>387
I didn't like to write English essays when I was studying at ESL.
When I write English I write like I'm talking. So I can not write a business
kind of English (I always think I need to study harder but I'm so lazy...)

When I was talking to my friend on skype he told me that every time I say
the word "really??" it sounds different from how American people actually
say it. He said When American people say "really"it more sounds like
「リィー・リィ」than「リ・ア・リー」and I use three syllables instead of two.
Well, I didn't know that all those years how American people actually had said
the word. So I still have this kind of problem when I speak English.

But he also told me that maybe my way of saying "really" is the proper
way of saying the word but American people just say differently.

correctly,>>387 → >>384
It's like common sense in the US, but we still don't take it in Japan
because Japanese kids don't get hyper from having too much sugar like
American kids.

>>396
Your friend is correct, in America it's more like 「リィーリィ」.
It's pronounced like adding "real" 「リィー」 and "ly" 「リ」.
I think in a lot of British accents you may have 「リアリー」.
See http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/En-us-really.ogg for the American pronunciation.

When learning languages I like to mimic how other people talk, like a parrot.
Then it stays in my head that I pronounce it that way.
Like the name Asuka, 「アスカ」, looks like it should be "a-su-ka" but it's actually pronounced more like "as-ka".
So I would repeat that name and now when I see 「す」 I know to drop the vowel sound in certain situations automatically.
「です」、「たすけて」、etc. are pronounced like that.

>>388
Being a bookworm really helped me reading English while I was
in America. It's like I couldn't live without reading so I tried really
hard reading English books

Oh well, I need to get ready for work.

>>385
You are very sexy, indeed.
I wish I could hear you shouting those words in real.

>>388
Do I look like I have a mental disorder doing it?
Like I would ever try doing it. I'll never ever try to talk to a stranger
in the train unless it is absolutely necessary. Then why did I say that here
in the first place? I was just saying there is next to no opportunity to
speak English in my everyday life. If I don't have any chance doing it, then
probably I won't have one in ten, twenty years' time, then why would I bother?
Anyway I somehow want to improve my English and want to be fluent.
Yeah, now I know what you mean. I just read what I wrote up to here and found
I do look like I have a kind of mental disorder or confusion.

>>382-383
It was very interesting to read your experience in the United States. You just learned
the language from osmosis, playing with your host brother Matthew.
I especially found it interesting that you started to sound like 5-year-old boy.
Well, after you came back to Japan, it is rather hard to maintain your skills...
Is that what you are saying? Maybe you should start talking to total strangers in the train...
Just joking. Good luck with your language learning. You are lucky you have friends
back in the States.

>>399
You poor thing. You've got work to do on Sunday?
You said you are a bookworm. Please tell us what kind of books
are interesting to read when you have a free time.

>>401
I didn't mean you looked like you had a mental disorder, I meant that you should parrot people speaking English, and that may make you look like you have a mental disorder whenever you do it but you should do it anyway.

I saw a nightmare yesterday... The nightmare was that I did it with a chaming and
beautiful woman in the bed in a motel at first, it was so good as far as the scene,
but, suddenly, the scene changed.
I was torn my clothes and fist-fucked by Matsuko DX, Japanese popular and famous
shemale-commentator. What a worse, I was excited a little. What a nightmare...

Below the movies appearing her(him?) on TV shows for person who don't know her at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPdVEJvK4GE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp0Zb09D3qI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTTLIyhGNvQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suWCwmWkjmo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nSyrIpkcYk

It doesn't matter what day of the week today, coz I'm neet.
Everyday is sunday to me.

>>403
Oh, I misunderstood you. Sorry about that. My poor English!

Parroting, huh? Yeah, I'll just make sure that anyone is around when
I'm doing it. Ha-ha-ha. Thank you for your advice.
It seems practice makes perfect. You should just keep parroting,
speaking to yourself if there is no one to speak you (or saying something here).

I watched the NHK special "Job-Hunting Glacial Age" last night.
The newly graduates from universities, colleges, high schools are
having hard time finding their jobs right now and it is almost as
bad as fifteen years ago when Japan was facing the worst glacial age as ever.

The program was following up the unemployed people now in their mid thirties
or people who are doing part-time, not being able to do full-time even 15 years
after the previous glacier.
Now we are well into another glacial age. It's quite depressing what is going to
happen to the newly graduates from now on.

>>392
Thank you for introducing me such an interesting video.
I really enjoyed it and I can't stop watching the video series.
And I would like to know about him more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om5KvkqvSLw

You should watch this video now, especially @7:30.
To tell you the truth, I almost laughted out there.

>>392

He is quite good at mimicking Japanese accent, isn't he?
He deliberately mispronounces 'th' or puts unnecessary vowels at the end of
consonants just as Japanese people do, but I can tell he is a native speaker
of English because he sometimes forgets to mimic and falls into his habit
as a native speaker every now and again.

I've watched some of his videos, too but my reaction was different from yours.
The way hi mimic Japanese English learners' accent is really irritating.
His looks is ugly so I neither want to see nor listening his videos.

I'm a man by the way.

>>409
you are a junior-high kid?

Is English capability extended if I read some foreign books ?
What kind of book is recommended at beginners?
From now on, I come out to a bookstore for the time being.

>>413
I couldn't really recommend any books, because I don't read much.
I think reading things in English on the internet are just as good.
There is a "Simple English" version of Wikipedia that is much easier to read for English learners. English Wikipedia can be very difficult.

>>414
Your case in which you've been immersed in English environment and grown up
on English and his case as an English learner are totally different.
So your reasoning is persuasive if I dare to say.

English learners or whatever language learners have to force themselves to
put themselves in a situation where they have to be exposed to English.
And reading a book written in English is one of the ways to force themselves to do so.

"Simple English" version of Wikipedia sounds good.
IF he/she is looking for conventional books made of paper, I'd recommend him/her Penguin Reader's books which are for English learners
and their vocabulary and grammar leves are limited so that English-learners friendly.
There are some levels depending on vicabulary and grammar levels so
you can choose the level that fits your fluency.

http://www.longmanjapan.com/penguin_j.html (japanese site)
http://www.penguinreaders.com/ (English site)

X is persuasive
O is not persuasive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eEt-4hb3YA

Ken Tanaka = David Ury

I'm so naive that I believed the Tanaka-Ken-Story.
But what did he do it for? Just entertaining us?
Anyway, I like his character and wondering how he got so fluent Japanese.

>>415
I've heard of Penguin books. That may be a good idea.

I try to compare your experiences studying English to my experiences studying Spanish, French, and Japanese. I've been studying languages for a long time.

>>414
I think English Wikipedia is easyer than this thread.

the reasons why the japanese not so good at english are,
one is diffrence of word order, another is listening ability for consonant, i think
most japanese dont have ears for consonant of english word
so when they hear english native's speaking they can hear only about a half of it
this isn't going to work.
so i think the most efficient way of english learnning for japanese is ,
at first letting them accept existence of consonant drastically

I have foud a good show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KGb-00WtWc

>>422
I need script!

>>400 you are not worth shouting at. now get lost.

Chef Yaw dont know way of cooking with Japanese food even a bit.
She is a completely Chinese. which her name prove

>>422

>>422
The intro is too dramatic.
Not my type.
I'm Japanese, by the way.

>>421
There are difficulties learning Japanese too, as an English speaker.
Learning to pronounce it is not hard (English is hard), and the vocabulary is not hard, but the writing system!
46 hiragana, 46 katakana, and thousands of kanji. And the kanji have their complicated stroke orders. That's what makes Japanese as hard as it is for foreigners.

>>428
However, kanji has good points.
It's easy to guess the meaning of a word written in a combination of kanji.
On the other hand, when one encounters a new English word, it's usually difficult to guess the meaning of it.
Also it's easy to create new words using kanji.

>>428
If you were English speaker, you don't have to learn Kanji at your initial step.
Kanji is too complicated to learn but once you memorize Hiragana and Katakata, you can write down any Japanese.
Off course, such a Japanese written in only Katanaka or Hiragana is too primitive, BUT it does work for all Japanese.
Japanese as phonogram is the most good point for English speakers.

If there's a bustle in your hedgerow
Don't be alarmed now.

>>430
Yes but you can't read Japanese without knowing kanji.

You will be able to learn many things there in the country.

>>432
In American university's dormitry, does each room has the bathroom to shower?
Are ther cafe or something in a dorm for your breakfast and dinner?

If you have a roommate(s), how and when do you masterbate to hide from
your roommates eyes.

These are all serious questions.

There's no way you can deny it.
I can see that you're oh so sad quiet.

>>432
In most universities, the basic dorm room would be a double (two people in the room)
with a common bathroom for that section of the building, that has several public showers, toilets, and sinks.

Some people have suites, which is a big room with a lounge and kitchen and bathroom and several single or double bedrooms.

My room is a single (just me) with a bathroom that I share with the person living next to me.
So, I do not have a roommate (^.^)

How abowt watching Sumo ?

>>434
Oh and my building has a cafeteria on the first floor, because it is a large tower.
Usually cafeterias will be a separate building near the dorm, that serves food like pizza, hamburgers, pasta, salad, etc.
My cafeteria serves sushi! I love it.

People from England and Australia have funny accents....In America.

I love you guys.

I love me too :)

>>422
When Mr.Morimoto won against Ms.Yeo, I was pleased because
Japan has been abusing by Chinese lately(Especially, you-know
what problem of Senkaku islands between both country).
.I think Japanese including me watched these movies are able to
be proud of that. By the way, I was suprised at a scene, a floor re-
porter called Sumeshi we all call "Sushi rice". In countries people
speak English as mother-tongue, it has been calling it "Sushi rice",
not "vinegared rice" lately? I learnd Sumeshi means vinegared rice
in English.

>>436
Oh, thanks. I think I understand how a typical dorm is like now.
Then you can enjoy masturbation spree to your heart's content.
Don't forget to tell him to knock the door beore entering your room.

How can a sutudent live in suite? All you have to do is to pay more money?
Or you have to wait until you become a senior or junior to be qualified for
suite?

I love you more than you love you.

>>438
Do some students cook on their own?

>>442
My internet is so slow that I couldn't see the part 1 of the video yet.
You are one of BONBONs? I envy you.

>>439
In the UK, there are some kind of English.
One is Queen's English.
This English have a clear pronunciation, speak word for word and mainly spoken by high society people.
Another major English is what is called Cockney.
This English is a sort of dialect spoken by laboring class in London.
The pronunciation is funny. It's like Australian's English.
Since Austrailan's origin was laboring class of the UK, Australian and London Labors share their funny pronunciations.
The procunciation of "day" is a typical for them. They call this word like "[dai]".

>>443
It depends on the university. Sometimes you pay more money, or sometimes
if you're in the Honours programme of the university (like I am) then
you can get in one more easily.

>>442
I've never heard of sumeshi or vinegar rice. Just sushi.
In the US we often put in weird things like cream cheese and mayonnaise. I like salmon the best.
The only thing I like more is miso.

Many people in Japan have funny accents, too.
It's called dialect.
A country which has old history usually has many dialects.
The U.S. is a young country so it doesn't have many dialects, but there are some of course..

>>445 yes.

>>447
British elitist!
But yea, "Queen's English" (or Received Pronunciation) is the easiest to understand.
I think cockney is funny too.

In the US, we have Midwestern, which is the standard accent.
Then we have Southern, which is kind of like what the Kansai dialect is to Japan.
Then some cities like New York and Boston have accents that also sound funny.

>>448 >>450
Thanks for answering about dorm in US.

>>450
I bet someone from Texus in this thread have souhern drawal.

>>449
>>450
Hahaha!
I understand we cannot laugh at other poople's dialect.
Anyway, I found good web-based dictionary from other thread.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/

This site offers you the differences between British and American accent.
It's very interesting.

>>452 wow I did not know about that.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/antidisestablishmentarianism

>>422
I first thought the host of the show was 郷ひろみ.
Don't you think he resembles 郷ひろみ in appearance?

>>454
Seems to me almost the same.
I'm Japanese.

US has many dialect. black. mexcan. spanish. and texasian. are quiet different.

David Beckham　also speak cockney,dont he?

>>457
Strictly speaking I think those are not dialect.
More like ethnic accents.

I used to love english movies
Another Country ,James Ivory's Maurice, My Beautiful Laundrette..

>>456
my point was that the word is huge.

>>457
Oddly, black people do have their own way of talking. I guess it's part
of their history. Black people raised in a white family talk like
white people do.
Texan accent is a type of southern accent.
Mexican and Spanish are foreign accents, because they are from different countries.

>>446
Because my internet is broadband, but I'm not one of BONBONs.
I just a poor(self-scorn).

>>448
Oh, really? you don't call it vinegared rice at all?
By the way, in Japan, some people put it in mayonnaise(I don't know
in tterm of cream cheese at all...)too. In the world of Japanese enter-
tainment, Shingo Katori, one of SMAP members and Toru Watanabe,
actor well-known for husband of Ikue Sakakibara, actress and J-pop
singer. In Japan we call such people "Mayorer". It means people love
to use mayonnaise to eat rice(and more: Natto, Udon, Yakisoba, Ramen
etc.).

>>461
>Black people raised in a white family talk like
>white people do.

Black people with high social status do because they want to identify themselves with
be a part of a high class in American society. Do you agree with my obsevation?

My understanding is that President Obama has no black English accent, does he?
Does his English have slight Black accent?

News said that Internet environment of Japan is most advanced in this world.
The Funny part of it is
South Korea insisted that they are No.1 of Internet.
Most Japanese believed it. in fact. I am one of them.
I believed that South Korea is No.1 until News shows evidence.

>>463
but he has amazing typical black voice.

>>412
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LeYHAHCd5c&feature=related

Even if you don't have interest in football, he's worth remembering.

>>465
I didn't know voice has its color.

>>412
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LeYHAHCd5c&feature=related

Even if you don't have interest in football, he's worth remembering.

>>396
The difference in pronunciation of 'really' is pretty interesting. >>398
is correct in saying that many British English accents use the three-syllable
variant over the more drawn-out American two-syllables. In particular, the
three syllables are more apparent when you hear someone using Received Pronunciation
(BBC English).

>>454
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/floccinaucinihilipilification

>>463
You are correct. Talking more like a white person makes black people
in the US sound more "high-class", so there are a lot of black people
who want to learn to talk "white", especially for job interviews and
speeches.

President Obama has a standard "high-class" white accent because he was
raised by his white mother. He has a strong, clear voice, which is
important for politicians because that is a major reason why they
get elected.

>>462
I've never heard the term "vinegar rice", but supposedly it means
"sushi". Do you put vinegar in the rice to make sushi? I wouldn't
know.

>>470
Do average Black people think that Black people who speak
White English is betraying Black people who speak Black English?

>>471
You'd have to ask them. I think if they're raised like a white
person then it may be hard for them to fit in with black people who
speak black English.

It really depends on who you ask.

>>466
i ilike football
but 409(you?) enjoyed something else than succer

What sort of criteria do people look for when looking for possible language
exchange partners? Native language is a given, but what else? How important
are things like age and gender to people? Would you be more likely to write
to strangers who share hobbies and interests, or start from knowing less?

Would appreciate input from anyone, Japanese or otherwise. Thanks!

British people pronouse "can't" like "cunt"

>>475 lol. it's pretty damn close.

>>474 Just to write to? I wouldn't care, myself.
I'd start caring if it got to skype or in-person meetings.
That's just me though!

>>475
No
They pronounce like カーント.
It's clearly different from cunt.

Shut the fuck up.

I'm Zapanese!a

>>478
Go to straight to hell and eat your dick.

I r not interest in language partnas, but hobboies yes. If you and i are not have same hobbies, what will us talk about? Weather?

>>475
No way and
That's extremely rude to say.

>>481
There are many things to talk about other than weather.
What do you talk with a girl, then?

I'm mainly asking because it seems like it would be handy to have a website
that allows people to find language partners for practice. Joined one some
years back called amifriend, which was made by a Japanese student studying
at a Canadian university, and gained a penfriend that way. However, that
site has been gone for about three years now, and the closest I can find are
websites with what seem like personal ads on them, and I wouldn't want it to
become more of a dating site. So I'm working on one myself.

>>476
I suppose that's an option too, for anyone who feels they'd rather practice
speaking than writing. Input's appreciated, I'll see about integrating
something along those lines into it.

>>481
But talking about the weather is a hobby of most British people. Get your
point, though, and it might be more useful to be able to select a few hobbies
and interests rather than just hoping to have something to talk about. Thanks.

>>474
One of the most important things that you tend to miss is the same level
of proficiency in your target languages.
I mean, in your case, your japanese proficiency has to be the same as
your partner's English proficiency. If that's not the case, it becomes one way,
instead of mutual language exchange relationship and it doesn't last long.

>>484
What about this site?
http://www.slf.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/etandem/etdef-en.html
Haven't tried but somehow I put the URL in Bookmark.

Another site would be "Shared Talk."
This site is for language exchange. There, you can text chat or Voice Chat.
If you hit it off with someone, you can keep in touch with them.

Do you mean you're plannning to launch a language exchange website?

I think British and American English are almost (more than 95%) the same.
But there are differences, of course.
I wonder if British people understand almost completely an American movie.

>>485
Thanks for the information on these resources. I suppose what I'm aiming
for is more like Shared Talk, though perhaps with more customisation and
a better interface. And yes, I'm planning on launching such a project.

The hint about matching up target proficiency is important, I agree, so
trying to put that in as a kind of tiered level in a user's profile, which
would contain native language, fluent level, intermediate level and beginner
level options.

>>486
We can pretty much understand 99.873% of Americans, so there's no problem at all
with understanding American movies.

>>470
I can't cook sushi(I'm poor at cooking). But, all sushi chef
do put vinegar in the rice to do.

See the movie. This movie from a TV program of NHK, Trad Japan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBsntgPkyvA

>>485
Looks like a good site though, I wonder if it is free of charge.

>>487
On my standard, Shared Talk is pretty sopfisticated but you are saying
you can creat a better site? Just WOW.

i was going to Tsuda english school when i was child
i remember that an elderly female teacher there who is very anglicized pronounced "can "as "kan"
also she made each of us say "present"when she checked our attendance.
it was something funny, wasn't it?

>>470
Yes. How about cook tirashi-sushi ?

I don't understand why Americans so very often say“you know what I'm saying?”

>>493
I don't understand why Japanese so very often say "sumimasen".

this is very like an english board of 2ch today
what 's happen? ww

>>489
Both those sites are free of charge to use. Shared Talk is part of
Rosetta Stone, so while the talk service is free, they also sell language
learning software (which is pretty good, in my opinion - I use it for Russian),
but it costs quite a bit but can be "found" online.

>>490
It'll be a bit of a challenge, but I make a living from web design and
development.

>>491
It was exactly like that when I was at primary and secondary school. We would
raise our hand and call "present".

>>496
Thank you for answering me(489).
You are a decent Oyaji of Britain.

I don't want to go to work tomorrow...

>>494
because koreans tell us to apologize all the time

The Empress Michiko speak Queen's English
In the past of Japan Queen's English was considered elegant language

today sumimasen means about hello

In these days the English of George Bush is considered more elegant

>>499
you korean GJ today!(←means 乙ne)

I want to speak English as fluently as a native speaker,
so I have to study harder and harder.
It is not ability but a strong will that I need.

Do you think the day will come when Japanesesh English gets civil rights in the world?
You know the Japanese is terrible at English.

>>497
I wouldn't call him Oyaji.

If he was Oyaji, I'm your grandpa or rather, caveman.

>>506
If he is over thirty year old, he is suitable for the adorable name.

Hi,I'm back from work. I just took a shower and I'm going to skip dinner
tonight.

>>401
Ha ha, at least I talk to my friends on skype so I don't need to talk to
strangers on the train. One of my friends always corrects my pronunciation
when it doesn't sound correct. But I still can not maintain my speaking
ability living in Japan.

>>402
Poor me!
Do I have to tell you that? well, I Just read any kind of books I like.

I need to get some sleep since I stayed up late last night and I need to
go to work tomorrow too. Good night!!

amazing!

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That's because part of me.
Today's my posts were more than 20 hehe.

I have a question to American people.
Do you know Michael J. Sandel, Harvard Philosophy Professor?
It's said his class was so popular that students swarm to sign up for his class.

Japanese TV station broadcast a TV series of his classes with subtitles,(Yes, it's
open class) and it got enormously popular. The TV program is so popular that
he was invited to Japan (Last August) and did his class at Tokyo University, which
is the best uni in Japan.

The lecture at the Tokyo uni was boradcast and I've just finished watched it.
His book titles "Justice" is sold well in Japan.

This is how he does class.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBdfcR-8hEY&feature=player_embedded#!

This is his interview when he came to Japan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njEconiTFEo

I want to know how he's famous in US. Have you ever heard of his name?

all this meaningless. sooner or later. Japan will become part of China.
even if DPJ'rule will end in 3 years, there are only inmoral enterprises and gov servants.
Lee dynasty(korea before ww2) is typical example of Japanese future.
http://www.iza.ne.jp/images/user/20081226/391062.jpg

Racial equality is important? I dont think so. there is unacceptable race in this world.
The Advanced country should not accept them.
As a matter of fact. Korean taked over Japanese gov and most inductories in Japan.
They going to ruin it.

I have a question, which may sound vague.
Are Todai graduate males viewed as prime batchelor material in Japan?
I know it sounds like I generalise but, does that make them look down on others a little?
Is there such an unseen class code in Japan?

>>502 George Bush's English is certainly not elegant.

Japanese people always learn to speak British English when pronouncing English;
for example, the word "bullard" would be spelled 「ブラード」 in katakana, not 「ブラルド」. 「ブラード」 is British pronunciation.

what do you mean "prime batchelor material"?

meaning "the best candidate for marriage".
This is a question to understand the social codes. I watched too many drama
where women see Todai males as the alpha male. I am trying to understand whether
this portrayal is backed by reality.

Fucking Chink,shame on you!

↑ Drugs do this to your head.

>>514 bachelor not batchelor.. Mistakes can be infectious.
Only the other day I corrected someone's mistake and here I am, replicating it.

Many native English speakers write 'then' instead of 'than' these days.
Why?

>>514
Generally speaking, yes, based on the assumption that they are highly expected to have the best jobs available.

The writer Haruki Murakami says in "Norwegian Wood", 「自分を哀れむ人が一番品がない」.
Personally, I agree with him.

>>517
in high school, face & figure. because for sex.
in univercity, rank of univercity. because future possibility is important.
in social. job and salary. because japanese woman is parasite to man.

Japan is a woman center society. man is a slave of woman.
wife manges entire of money in family. hasband would get a pocket money a bit.
japanese woman would care money only.

if there is a foreigner who want to marry with japanese woman,
there is a advice for you.
dont kill yourself.

there are a lot of foreigners who think japanese woman dosnt have rights. in Japan. man is rule
thats totaly wrong. they would control hasband while they are smiling.
if someone think that japanese womans are kindness, thats wrong.
they pretends kindness. because hasband is a happy trophy.
you want trophy beautiful. same. they take care of trophy(hasband). because there is reword.

>>525
well individual vs individual basis, maybe you are right. But socially there is a strict
burden for women not to be a leader in any kind of communities. We have almost no
opportunities to be hired as a staff in a corporation. Maybe teacher and nurse are the
only professions which has a equal right with male.

opps sorry. No opportunities to be hired as a staff given the same salary, rank, so on
with male. At start, yes, but later male get more salary no matter what.

>>519
back to hell !

oh,,mistake

back to china!

It's just about the same...

>>526
ofcouse not. its balance. most woman want to be parasite.
if salary of hasband is less than twice, how could parasite live?
parasite life or opportunities. you cant not choose it individually.
because whole society go same. ofcouse you cant take both.
if you want same opportunities, kill all parasites.

>>526
That's mainly because women tend to resign soon after their marriage.
What if your female boss bercomes pregnant?

Women are almost treated equal in public offices.
And female medical doctors are treated almost equal, too.

There's other chances for women.
Why don't they be entrepreneurs and employ women and discriminate men, as sort of revenge?
Because after all they don't want to be entrepreneurs, I guess.

japanese woman think that they want to same opportunities as man.
UNTIL THEY GOT BIG TROPHY.

bullshit.

>>>528 I have never been to China nor have any relation to China,
where on earth do you get that impression? What are you on?

Thanks guys, I was asking about the Todai men...as trophy husbands.

It became the climate which was easy to pass. I was able to sleep well today.

Yesterday night NHK was carrying out the wonderful program. Although I did not find that it was detailed, the excellent student who invites a foreign professor was doing a thing like discussion.

That's like a chicken or egg question. Society is like present Male=dominate
female=support therefore, women parasite. More beautiful sexier, more opportunities to get married
with richer men then parasite women's life become richer. OR if society would have been completely equal,
women would have worked harder and climb a social ladder then the woman eventually will enjoy
better life with a new handsome young husband.

>>206
yes
>>207
50%

China is a country which seems to be Japanese mafia ,what is called YAKUZA !

compared with the mafia of other countries, it seems that yakuza have lost their own balls.

In Japanese, is it more common to say 午後五時です　or 十七時です?

>>539
午後五時です is more common.

ご、ご、ご時です。どもってるのか？

は、は、は、はい

In Japan. Government gives woman rights a lot already.
but as a matter of fact. most woman uses advantage of it only. they dont work.
they stay in parasite. there are same opportunities already. salary is same.
so man's salary was decreased. then man can not grow parasite. man can not be married.
no childrens. chinese and korean immigrants are needed. Japan goint to ruin.
Man would arrest because of false charge in sexal harasment. Train has woman-only car.
Japanese woman became a enemy of Japan.
According to some statistics. The woman who feels most happy is Japanese. Ofcourse so.
They are rule.

Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 145　←　is this true?

i cant believe this thread started such long time ago

>>544
what does it mean ?

>>539
In more casual way of saying it would be 夕方の五時です。

>>546
The expression is irrelevant.

>>547
Why irrelevent?
By adding 夕方の it means the same as 午後 and you can clarify it's not 午前.
When you're talking with friends about an appointment or whatever that starts
at 5pm, you never say 午後五時に because too formal.

夕方の五時に、or　夕方五時に is most commonly used in the setting above.

>>548
>you never say 午後五時に because too formal.

言いすぎ

By the way, what do you say in English 言いすぎ in this context?

the word Overstatement is wrong ?

Amazing Kimiko Date won to Sharapova.
http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/news/20100927/date-krumm-downs-sharapova_2256076_2166428

It is wonderful.

>>539
十七時＝seldom or never used when talking
午後五時＝formal but sometimes used among peers
夕方(の)五時＝informal. children always use but adults often

>>554
How about 2 p.m.?

>>555
昼(の)二時 is common. It may be more common than 夕方(の) because it's simply easier to say.
Others are just the same.

>>549

Shold I have added "Busniness like" besides "formal?"
You don't say 午後五時、when you're talking with your frined.
夕方（の）五時 is a lot more common way of saying among friends.

>>556
How about 3 pm?

In business, 17 時 is as common as 午後５時..

>>557
>You don't say 午後五時、when you're talking with your frined.

言いすぎ

>>557
You mean 午後 is never used when talking with friends?
That's not true. 夕方 is more common but 午後 is also sometimes used.

>>558
It's still 昼
Around 4 〜 6 p.m. is 夕方

>>562
３時 is not 昼, nor 夕方

you can say 昼の３時　but 午後の３時 is more appropriate.

hehe

昼３時 is not altogether wrong because many people use it.
But I feel that 夕方３時 is not common.

>>566
you can say 昼の３時　but 午後の３時 is more appropriate.

>>560
No, I don't think so.
One more thing, if you don't post in English, just keep away from this thread.

>>561
I think I use ”夕方（の）五時”a lot more often than ”午後五時”
in casual conversaation with my friends. In business setting, I think
I'd use 午後五時 more often than 夕方（の）五時"

>>568
>No, I don't think so.

言うだろ
例えば、午後５時に渋谷で会おうとか

夕方の五時という言い方は昼の２時とか時間帯によって変えなくてはならないからやや面倒
その点、午後５時とか午前５時はより簡単
だから午後５時という言い方はわりと良く使われる。

>>569-570

Read >>1 million times, you dickhead.

>>571
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I

I mean, thread title. You aren't qualified to join the conversation.

You're a moron.

>>571
自治厨乙

>>574
That's all you can say, moron.

>>573
Fuck off

>>576
That's the only English phrase you know.

LOL

>>575
You are so desperate.
Seems to be so hurt by my comment www

>>577
Sorry, my English is better than you, www

>>578
hurt? Why am I?

>>580
Don't pretend to be innocent.
You are hurt because you were defeated.

>>581
Defeated? Who defeated me?

>>557
>You don't say 午後五時、when you're talking with your frined.

Anyway, that's the only part that I think it wrong.

>>583
That's just your opinon.

I wrote my opinon in >>568.

Shut the fuck up, y'all talking about 5pm.
Who cares about what's your favorite expression for a time.

Children, children don't fight please.
Write nice things we can all share. Thanks

>>572
there are many dickheads in Osaka.

http://matomech.com/article.aspx?aid=237098&bid=178

these fucking old bitch make my dickhead wither orz

they dont have a sensitive emparrassment, but they can do sexual harassment coolly.
what kind of animal are they?

>>590
do you make disgrace osaka dickheads?

Osaka is a commedian town. life in Osaka is always with joke.
they bet their life to make laugh. you are saying like thery are normal.
what a disgrace.

What have I done?
How did my question about 5 pm turn into making fun of 大阪のおばさん?
Everyone calm down, Osaka is not that weird.

How would you know if Osaka is weird or not?
Osaka is weird. You'd have to live there and also live in other cities to know it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5y0pllPkMU
before people in Osaka
after people in Tokyo

>>593
You have done nothing they are just being paranoid.

This thread is funny, but don't make fun of Osaka(and its'おばさん）
because I live really close to the place and I would be one of them
in future.

although ths is an english only thread ,there are so many posts!
usually this kind of thread end up without being full of users.
wonderful！but why ? because of foreigners?

Did you know that schools in Osaka,
teachers teach in the Osaka dialect and students also speak in
the dialect?
It's kind of mind-boggling to imagine what the class is like.

>>597
Undoubtedly good sir! How apt of a judgement!
The presence of non-natives has indeed caused the quasi-exponential increase
of the BBS post frequency rate.

The half of the human being who lives in Osaka is a Korean resident in Japan.
They sell the kimchi at the roadside every morning.

Osaka is one of most dangerous place in Japan.

Nooooo!
People in Osaka are the friendliest and the best people in Japan.

>>596
Don't post before you dye your pubic hair, bitch.

>>603
Get lost you scum sucking pig

>>603
dyed pubic hair? how common is this in japan?
(＠.＠)

Those who lives in Osaka eat a kimchi every day.

>>605
none as far as I know

If it gets down from the station in Osaka, it is said that there is the smell of YAKINIKU !

hows going ?

in Osaka, no matter where i go , i see the same ugly bitch
they cant make my dickhead stiff, Jesus

on the contrary in Kobe, bitch is so-so dude.
so i pick up that bitch whena wanna fuck and creampie in expensive car GS3 lol

Over seas media reported riot of Nishinari district in Osaka.
Nishinari district is largest Korean town in Japan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLRk32-OO_g

here. so Korean.

how about Amagasaki ?
this city is famous by 2 guy known as DownTown

Amagasaki and Kishiwada are Korean too.
Both DownTown are Korean.

oh my fucking God
DownTown are Korean ??
its fucking unbelievable !

most famous commedian guy's in Japan are Korean
its fucking goddemn disgrace of japan, i might think
what do u think ? dude

There are many Korean celebritys who pretend Japanese. Nothing special.

Do you care about celebrities origin in US? German. French. British.
Same. There are Korean, Chinese, White, Black in Japan. Though only Korean conceal their true name.

in America everyone knows where they come from
they stand up without concealing

Japan is mysterious country for me
That's what I thought

No. Korean is mysterious. They feel shame of their origin in Japan.
Because Their brother and sister are criminals. literaly Yakuza.

Think about it. if there is a Mexican who has cacasian look in US,
and When he became celebliry, he might conceal his origin.

oh i see
sometimes native american conceal their origin cuz they wanna get some license kinda Casino, Gamble stuff like that
sor, i have subjective impression that japan is a racially homogeneous nation

by the way, famous gangster in Japan so-called "Yakuza" is similarly Korean ?
(oops, im interested about Histroy between japan and korea)

In the US everyone knows where pop stars and celebrities are from.
There are a lot of Canadians, South Americans, and sometimes Europeans or Asians.
They never hide their identities, because not many people care.

Yakuza was Japanese until after war. Korean civil war was happend.
then a lot of illegal immigrants escaped from Korea. but They dont have job. even rights to live.
need job and money. Yakuza was easy way for them. becuase the crime to Japanese is their favorite.
so Yakuza hired them day by day. and Now. 30% of Yakuza are Korean.
Its big number. because their total polulation is very few than Japanese. but 30%.

udon know about traditional celeb orgnaization
they check his origin strictly cuz they don wanna put them in their money tree

Speaking of YAKUZA, I like the movie JINGINAKI TATAKAI
Bunta Sugawara is wonderful.

I'd like to ask native English speakers here which of them is the best, second best
and worst among the three as English writing. I'd appreciated if you give me the reason
why and your comments on each writing.

The three writing will be posted below.

Here are the three. Thank you.
-------------
A)This is the time of period that people are commonly using android as a consumer electronics,
which are developed and named as "parents". One heavily raining day in summer, he found one "parents"
that was dumped illegally. The young man who lost the reason of living and rattletrap android started
to live together. His feeling were slowly healed by bright and admirable android. However, on a day it
was close to the end of summer, something has happened suddenly on android's body. This is a heart warming story of nostalgic one summer memory.

B)This is a story of the era when an android called "Parents" are developed
and it's common to have one in many households. On a pouring day in summer,
the leading character of the story finds a Parents illegally abandoned on the street and
took it his home. The young man who has lost the meaning of his life unexpectedly starts
living with the android under one roof.
As his mind is being gradually healed by the android's loyal and upbeat character, something
unusual happens to its body when summer is almost over. This is a heartwarming, bitter sweet story that depicts a memory of one summer.

C)The time which the android called a parentz was developed and became a natural existence as a
household appliance. The day of a certain heavy rain in summer, a hero gathered a body of the parent
disposed illegally. A strange living-together of the youth who lost the useful meaning and a worn-out
android. Although it was a hero who has the heart relieved little by little by bright manly android,
one day the summer is drawing to a close, an accident suddenly occurs in android's body. The painful warm heartful story describing a certain recollections of summer.

i like Japanaese gangstar more than Italian gangster,
because their costume is fucking funny lol

>>629
Beware yakuza can easily find your location
But maybe it's too late

for crist's sake i almost wet my dickhead lol
i hope they come to see me
i wanna take a picture with em

>>627  Well, they look to me like 3 different accounts of the same story.
If you want, I can fix them up a bit, grammatically...

-This is the story of a world where androids, knows as "Parents", have
become common household appliances. On one rainy summer day, a
young man stumbles upon a Parent illegally abandoned on the street.
The man, who until then lived in a perpetual depression and
melancholy, now began living under the same roof as this worn-out
android.
Before long, his experiences with the loyal and upbeat android began
to bring back meaning to his life. However, as the summer drew to a
close, something unusual happened to the android's body. This is the
heartwarming, bitter-sweet tale of a summer that one man will never
forget.

(I changed a few things to make it sound more natural).

If I were to rank the 3 options, I would say B, A, C, mainly because
of grammar and word choice.

>>627 They're a bit too long for me to comment all of them, but
hopefully my post above can be some help.

fuck grammar, asshole
i like glamour bitch

>>634
Ｏh you don't know? Ｇrammar is the new glamour!

Ｏn an entirely unrelated note, does anyone here play Ｐokémon Ｂlack and Ｗhite? Ｉ am way too old for it, Ｉ know, but I would appreciate help from a native Japanese speaker (^^)

Grammy glamour bitch make my sperm added about 5 more grams

>>632-633
Thank you very much for your version of English and rating and all.
These three are translations of Japanese by three diferent people.
I was just curious what's best. (I don't mean to downgrade any of them.)
Just wanted to what native speakers think from their perspective.
Thank you very much!

to be fucking honest, 2channeler likes blue joke

i like blue joke
and i like blow job too lol

what position do u like in sex

hi everyone, my name is sex machine , another name is pussy crasher
so call me "insertia", thank u

asshole

the asshole call the pussy pink
i like both

>>635
I think Japanese who play new Pokemon probably won't come to this thread because most of Pokemon fans are elementary school pupils as you know. They can't understand English.
But there are surely some adult Pokemon fans all over Japan. You shouldn't be so ashamed.

pokemon ?
i have a monster in my pants, not in pocket

feel my beretta fucking nigga

black or white, which dick do you like ?

i like black because black cock is more stiff than white one
yellow is the worst, short ,small and not so stiff

oh, u wanna fight with japanese ?
i can make u come over and over by my finger technique not my thin sausage

>>648
you must be virgin!!!

stiff dick feel sweet in my little petit

faggots

oh, its just like a fucking jerk off

there was a heavy rain and thunder storm today.
i almost get my dickhead wet for christ' sake

that is just the day to sex all night long

>>613
Even kids in Osaka know how to throw long distance gasoline bombs. Pretty impressive.

you guys are boring
must have been without sex for a long long time. lol

oh poor girl
ya pussy have not been developed
once it be developed, u'll be a slave to sex

in japan most of women don't know orgasm or sexual extasy
their vagina, pussy and clitoris have gone withered
it's a fucking tragedy

>>658
I'm a male, lol

foreing guy can't sex with japanese girl,
because she think he is a freak
in america or europe, it is common sense to enjoy sex

>>659 is it because they are brought up with inhibitions in a conservative society?

i think it comes from cutural problem
in japan, sex is treated like bad deed
Aya Sugimoto (known as japanese sexual teacher) said

>in japan, sex is treated like bad deed

C'moooon!
Christianity is notorious about sex.

i am bored of sex problem
let's talk about blow job dude

>>665
I'll cut it and serve it to you.
Eat

It must be a problem due to heavy work schedule and not much leisure time.
Young people need time and space to interact with each other.
They have to overcome embarassment, which needs time.
However I get the impression that daily life is too stressful.

>>663
Don't believe what Korean says.

nevertheless i can't understand about Cabaret Club
(i can understand about Soap Land)
Cabaret Club is expensive but only drinking and speaking
what the hell are they thinking ?

>>669
Be rich and go there and you'll understand.

Sex was open until Edo period. people did it in public bath.
White people loves Ukiyoe though. its origin of Hentai culture. its all about sex.
it is said that Shogun prohibited public baths because of it.
Only Christian look at sex as bad thing. Japanese dosnt care. its good thing.

open sex is not different from monkey itself
i can't agree with sexual openness

>>671
Yes. It's the western culture that brought in the "sex is shameful" thing.
Japan used to be a country of free sex. Yobai used to be common until WW2.

>>672
but in now days. British people are most open at sex. they do it in streat.
do you think that they are same as monkey?

street*

Date beat Hantuchova again !

I ate my fill and become sleepy

Date with Date. (伊達とのデート)
Native English speakers probably mispronounce it.

Ms. Date, what's the date is today

Sep 29 ・・・　wow! it's my date day with Frank
his sex make me feel dateless love・・・

excuse moi to spoil your mood, u maybe misdate the day

oh, what a fucking asshole shit god demn it !!

what is the reason to conceal pussy and penis in japanese porn ?
asshole is ok and why ?

wwww

Being a man, I like young guy's penis very much.
The other day, on the central crossing of Washington DC shopping town,
I was interviewed by a ikemen black young guy.
Ikemenn: Being a man yourself,why do you like young men better than women?
Me: I like hot hard rod very much.

He hopped away and came back hopping.
He was a high jumping kangaroo!
It was rather I that was amazed.

there are a lot of gay in america and europe
someone said 10% of all are gay or latently gay
in the near future in Tokyo, gay becom 10% of all

by the way, i dont wanna suck someone's dick
that images make me feel nauseous

Some Japanese men are so androgynous looking.
Some are really attractive to western women's eyes.
We discuss that a lot with friends and have
not come to a conclusion yet (as to why there is an attraction).

what do you call Surume in English?

cuttlefish?squid?

Surume

before
http://blog-imgs-29.fc2.com/a/r/a/aramakisake/20090119194732.jpg

after
http://blog-imgs-31.fc2.com/n/e/g/negisio12345/20090512105405af4.jpg

You know, the cum you [ have just cummed ] smells green smell of chesnut blossoms
but [ when it gets dry ]. it smells of [ dried ] squid [ which we call 'surume' ].

just "squid"? but that is not such mean. its cooked.

Asian male's skin is so smooth
[ that you can feel the body of another male
[ better than European hairy male body ] ].(^-^*)

Dried squid and dried cum smell the same.

we would burn it when we eat dried squid. burned dried squid?

Pure Japanese has also hairy body.
if you dont have it much, you can think you are Korean descendant.

[ When you grill it ], it smells rather fragrant.
[ When it's raw dried or you raw chew it ], it exactly smells and taste like dried cum.

Pure Japanese has short legs. smaller height. double eyelid. hairy body.
just ugly.

hairless body. single eyelid. whiter skin. are Korean.

Young guys's bodies [ that I share bodies with in Shinjuku 2 district ] are mostly hairless smooth skined .

Point is Japanese man has hair on the instep. Korean dosnt.

>>511
He and his class are pretty famous among students here, but I don't think
he's that well-known outside Harvard. At least, I hadn't heard of him
before I got here. But he might be more famous now that the WGBH
show has aired. I had no idea Justice was so popular in Japan.
Why do you think the Japanese version is such a hit?

>>635
I'm playing it too, though I'm not a native speaker. I hadn't played
a Pokemon game since I got halfway through Sapphire before quitting
back in like 2003. It's pretty amazing how much the games have changed
since then.

Anyway I don't need hair on the skin [ to share bodies with guys ].

Hi, guys, how often do you get out to Shinjuku 2 district town?
That open bar [ streatching out on the side way ] is a place [ where people from all over the world, gay or non-gay get together and be friendly ].

Jesus Walks on Water

Immediately after this,
Jesus insisted
[ that his disciples get back into the boat and head across the lake to Bethsaida ],
[ while he sent the people home ].
After [ telling everyone good-bye ],
he went up into the hills by himself [ to pray ].
Late that night, the disciples were in their boat in the middle of the lake,
and Jesus was alone on land.
He saw
[ that they were in serious trouble,
[ rowing hard and struggling against the wind and waves ] ].
About three o’clock in the morning, Jesus came toward them, [ walking on the water ].
He intended [ to go past them ], but
[ when they saw [ him walking on the water ],
they cried out in terror,
[ thinking he was a ghost ].
They were all terrified
[ when they saw him ].

But Jesus spoke to them at once.
“Don’t be afraid,” he said. “Take courage! I am here!”
Then he climbed into the boat, and the wind stopped.
They were totally amazed,
for they still didn’t understand the significance of the miracle of the loaves.
Their hearts were too hard [ to take it in ].

[ After they had crossed the lake ],
they landed at Gennesaret.
They brought the boat to shore and climbed out.
The people recognized Jesus at once, and
they ran throughout the whole area,
[ carrying sick people on mats to
[ wherever they heard [ he was ] ].
[ Wherever he went—in villages, cities, or the countryside ]—
they brought the sick out to the marketplaces.
They begged him [ to let [ the sick touch at least the fringe of his robe ], and
all [ who touched him ] were healed.

In Oshio's incident, prosecutors gave up the appeal. As for criminal investigation, Aho has gathered.

The difference between Japanese men and Korean men; the atmosphere is different.
Korean men have a good posture and look up and see forward and walk with a dignified manner
while Japanese men bend his head and walk and they are usually being with rather frightened manner

Our Japanese ancesters and Korean ancesters were one society!

Have you ever fallen in deep love with males and shared bodies intoxicatedly?

why is Korean unattractive ?
Korean’ｓ　face is unattractive !

>>705
Present Korean is from mongoria.
Ancient Korea was part of Japan.

Oshio's bail application was dismissed. It will be natural.

It is regrettable that prosecutors gave up the appeal.

There is also a rumor that Yositune Minamoto is a Mongolian ancestor.

>>698
You mean you go to Harvard now?

>Why do you think the Japanese version is such a hit?
You mean his class or his book?
If you are talking about his class, the theme dealt with in each class
is interesting and interactions between the prof and students is energetic
and interesting. Of course the way the prof proceed his class is skillfull.
These are the reason, I think.

If you are talking about the book, that's because he got popular when his classes
are aired on NHK and everybody wants to read his book.

What does Chinese look and sound like to a Japanese speaker? And how much of it can you understand reading?

>>713
Chinese characters are so simplified and deformed from original kanji that they are frequently incomprehensible to me. It sounds very different from Japanese kanji.
I cannot understand reading Chinese at all.
Chinese and Japanese are very different languages.
However, with a luck I can sometimes guess the meaning of it a bit.

>>712
Yes, I'm a student here. I'm also taking Sandel's class to fulfill a
requirement, and while I find it interesting, I'm certainly not captivated
by it to the extent that it seems some Japanese fans were.

I meant the show when I asked why it was so popular. Would I be right to
guess that it's very rare for Japanese professors to interact directly
with their students during lecture in the way Sandel does?

>>714
I've heard that people accustomed to simplified characters can usually
read the traditional versions, but the reverse isn't always true, which
seems counterintuitive. But it's definitely my experience as well that
simplified characters are very difficult to read. Even if you can figure
out which characters they are in the first place, there's also the issue
that many of the compounds used in Chinese don't exist in Japanese.

>>715
I prefer traditional characters, myself (which of course is what kanji is).
My name in Mandarin contains the character ?, which I looked at and recognised as being 馬, but simplified (and also I knew that "ma" and "uma" are Mandarin and Japanese for "horse", respectively.)
So I thought maybe that also applies to other characters.
It's easier to see when the character is handwritten...

>>716
Apparently this forum doesn't like simplified characters. Well anyway, the Simplified Chinese character for "horse" looks like 馬, but is 3 strokes instead of 10.

Well let me see......
馬rk, 馬thew, 馬tt, 馬ike.
Have I been guessing your name right at all?

>>718
Haha no, it's from the Chinese version of my name. Besides, "ma-ike" doesn't even work.

So who here likes zettai ryoiku? (being a japanese board, there must be someone)

What do you guys think about the recent Senkaku islands incident?

Chinese word syllables are as long as Japanese word syllables.
Both Chinese and Japanese words are made up of the same legth syllable each.

>>721
Chinese syllables are much more complicated though. They can contain up to at least 6 letters in romanisation (ex. Zhuang) plus 5 possible tone marks (- , ^ , ` , ' , and none),
whereas Japanese only has up to 3 letters (ex. Ryo) and no marked tones.
Therefore Chinese can be much more complicated.

>>720
How about you split the land area in half and the governments stop complaining? The islands are uninhabited anyway.

>>715
>Would I be right to guess that it's very rare for Japanese professors to interact directly
with their students during lecture in the way Sandel does?

In classes where the number of sutdents is small, a professor can interact
with students in Japan, but usually, lectures in Japanese university is
one way without any ineraction with professor.

You graduated from Japanese high schoo and then went to US, if you don't mind
my asking.

>>723
Japan would never accept that.
It's been a Japan's territory since January, 1895.
Resources like oil, gas, fish, etc. near the islands are obviously more important than itself.

Keep saving ! Beat china first !

Never kill anybody!

China=North Korea ＝ a dirty country.

1988 China killed phillipin military personel and clue of cargo ship on the island
after US base released them. and now. They taked over that island illegaly.
Same thing would happen in Japan now. we must fight back for whole east asia.
just like our ancester did in ww2.

Since there was the Emperor like Kim Jong-il a long time ago,it was warring, however we are different now.

what the fuck is happened in this thread ?
it's fucking weired

its time to stop believing Chinese propaganda. They are evil since thay are existed.
The Situation of Japan - China war was totaly same as present.
its time to defeat evil Chinese dictatorship communist.
by making of The East Asian alliance.

China and Japan's war is fucking aim for America and Europe.
Truely, chinese and japanese must be friend for Asia.
but America and Europe is unpleased to be

As a last resort, America and Europe throw Japan to gabbage.
it's fucking unbelievable for me that many Japanese are not awared of it.

dont be ridiculaus. nobody can be friend with dictator.

Japan for chinese is the tool for organized minorities
chinese goverment is very scared of demo by minorities

if there was not Japan in the world, chinese goverment is easily collapsed

we should have performed Futenma Air Station relocation smoothly.
The responsibility of Okinawa of having refused this is large.

The Okinawa governor should take the responsibility.

Dilution of the Japan-U.S. alliance caused this disturbance.

>>684
i'm sorry to ruin your dream
but i think you gys participate in fantasy
real japanese men never have no attraction even for japanese women
short ,frail ,less masculine, as typified by Johnny's boys
maybe you confound the attraction of japanese cartoon or animated character
with that of real japanese men,, arent you?

>>735
if there was not Japan in the world, China as it is today could not exist
Japan ever has offered to help China about 8 trillion yen($80 billion ) in total.
free money ,free licensing of technology ,yen loans, and trougth Asian Development Bank

>>729
Vietnam also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LEDXyLa-_o
China has indeed been agressive enough to invade its surrounding areas and will be so for many years to come.

>>740
Rendering evil for good is this.

A country that helps neighboring country is sure to perish
This is the truth.Japan is a big bozo

dont misuderstanding. the anti US military group in Okinawa is Korean.
They are spy. Japan dosnt have law for spy. because GHQ prohibited it.
seriously. even most Japanese dont know about this fact.

more of chinese than korean

No Chinese. They are Korean only. I know.
As a result. its good for Chinese though. They are Korean without doublt.
maybe They do it for Korea's purpose.

>>746
but if the US military pull out
this is Korea that gets in a bind immediately

this thread is marked by "NetoUyo"
it is fuckin funny.
this fucking guy always criticize to Korean lol
their brain must be rotten

NetoUyo study English for global criticizm lol
i wanna give them my middle finger lol

>>749


put your rotten middle finger in your nostril (^^)

>>748
you　 korean GJ　today

China has great history on the earth
it represents as Sangokushi
they have matured human cuture absolutely
so i respected them

but problem of this time make me disappointed
we have no choice but to fight seriously

skirts are crazy

i gonna spread my milk to ya rasshole mofo

>>724
Nope. I'm just a regular American who happens to know Japanese. I've
been to Japan, but I've never attended a university class there. I'd
like to one day, but since I'm white, I'd probably draw too much
attention to be able to sneak in and sit in the back.

i dont wanna white cock
i wanna black one lol

as a white person,
how much would i be shunned and alienated if i took classes in japan?
presuming i spoke good japanese.

chiese and korean would be most shunned and alienated from japanese

japanese girl do not so dislike black and white cock i might add

>>757
You'll be treated as a regular human being.
Some people might even treat white people like a rock star.
You white people are lucky. Because of hollywood movie and music, some
Japanese associate you white guys with movie star, rock star and things like that.

Of course it depends on your looking though. But even if you look like a nerd, you still
treated like better in Japan in US just because you're white.

If you speak good Japanese, you'll be respected because we don't expect white people to
speak Japanese.

japanese girl in university is mostly opened to foreighn people
boy is a little bit conservative, i think

there are lots of japanese who can speak english well in high-level university
but low-level, few and more conservative

unko wa kuso

>>759
Good to know. I'll bring a guitar with me and I'll get the ladies in no time!

>>761
In English? Yes, in English the word "shit" refers to either the stuff in toilets or is an exclamation of annoyance.
Other profanities of interest:
"damn!" (not too bad, or "dang" which is lighter),
"fuck!" (very strong),
"motherfucker!" (even stronger),
"damn it!/dammit!" (not very strong),
"God damn it!" (similar to the last one, do not use it in churches),
"oh my God!" (not actually a curse, used if you're surprised by something),
"Jesus Christ!" (if you're frustrated; you don't have to be Christian to use it),
"fucking hell!" (pretty strong, use if you're very disappointed)
"holy shit!" (like "oh my god!" but stronger)
...and the list goes on.

Some of the English curse words you Japanese say sound funny because we don't use them.

i give u a motherfucking middle finger , demn ass lol

Hello people!!

White British here. Do Japanese like us?

I swear there are more Britons here than Americans, and GB has 1/5 the population of the US.
Just goes to show you how much Americans care about foreign culture.

It is said that prosecutors gave up the appeal of the defendant Oshio.
What do prosecutors consider?

>>764
Generally, We don't have any prejudice against you guys.

>>765
You mean many the Americans are indifferent to that?
If so, the Japanese are much more indifferent than the Americans.

>>766
Obviously, They want to proclaim themselve to be crap.

>>765

Not so sure about this...

In England we get multiculturalism shoved at us a lot, a lot don't care about foreign cultures, but I enjoy learning, so I come here often :)

>>767

Glad to hear it would be okay for me to walk the streets of Japan!

Maybe Americans aren't too interested they seem to isolate themselves from other country's business unless it can involve them somehow. I mean no offence by saying this.

but dont forget that there are many korean in japan.

streets on korean town are very dengerous. even japanese do not walk at there.
and most sex-clubs are managed by korean yakuza. korean loves white woman in another meaning.
so be careful.

>>771
yea, but hard to know where the place is, especially for the people who is not familiar with the locality.

It will be because there are many dull human beings among South Koreans or Korean residents in Japan.

The half of the population of Osaka is North Koreans or a South Korean.
Osaka is a danger zone.

>>773
Same as your country.

>>774
That can't to be true.

>>774

Maybe even Kim Jong Il likes to come to Japan!?

You know, his country (North Korea) has only 1 TV channel!! He might like Japanese TV...

lol lol

Note to self: Stay away from Osaka!!

JESUS FUCKIN' CHRIST! OSAKA IS A PRETTY GODDAMN GREAT KINGDOM!! DON'T MAKE FUN OF IT, YOU FUCKIN' STUPID MAGGOTS!!!

I'm from Osaka but not exactly that I have grown up in Osaka. But anyway, I've never met
Korean in my area. When I went to high school in Kobe, that was the first time in my life that I met
Korean descendent and saw serious discrimination.

I also had some experience to relate with ppl in Ashiya (the richest in Japan) . Some employees were Korean descendent
named Kim-san or Rou-san. I frankly called their names that way and some other Japanese jumped and screamed to me
'Doooonnn'T call them by their real nameee!!' Those employees were grown up in Kobe, so they react in a strong prejudiced
way.

I wondered why..Korean descendent are proud of their homeland...then why should I call them by their
another Japanese name...I really wondered at that time .

>>764
What kind of white British are you?
Are you the kind of British who eats jellied eels at the East End of London,
or are you the kind that have cream tea?

>>778
Are you a fukking South Korean ?

because they are hiding in japanese society by using japanese name to conseal their personality which Yakuza.

>>781
NO. ARE YOU A NORTH KOREAN BY ANY CHANCE?

>>783
YES
WHAt ?

>>762
How about 'Holy cow', 'Holy mackerel' and 'Far out'?
Do you guys still use them?

Ashiya is one of town where richer people live though.
there is no necessity that korean who lives in there is legal .
in fact. there are 3 korean in richest people in Japan.
who manages illegal gambling.

I dont know about them. but one of them are even illegal immigrant. what a joke.
one of richest person in Japan is illegal immigrant and his job is illegal.

>>784
AH OKAY, PYONGYANG SOUNDS LIKE PEYOUNG SAUCE YAKISOBA, DOESN'T IT??

Japan is a such stupiest country actually

look who the stupidest one is...

Probably China will be globally isolated regarding this time.

>>785
"Holy cow" and "Holy mackerel" are used but they're very mild and sometimes used as a joke.
"Far out" was used in the 1970s and/or 80s but is no longer used. Also it is not a curse.

>>792
Thanx.
'Far out' may be similar to 'ナウい', which used be used a lot but
not at all used now.

S-chan gotta be here whenever we talk about curse words....

"far out" is for hippies, i guess.

no　more　about　korea　&　korean. i dont wanna hear of it
it just may be chinese agent who says "korean is...""korea is "in this thread all day
now they dont want us to discuss their country that has been behaving as Yakuza againast japan

This S-chan >>794 is talking about is the woman who seems to have gotten
a job at MS, who graduated from Cali tech.

The cuss word I learned from here is "suck donkey balls" or something.
Judgigng from her academic record, she must be intelligent but what I thought was
she was kind of childish because she seemed to think using cuss words is cool.

"Suck donkey balls" will probably get people to laugh at you. Especially if you say it with a Japanese accent.
>>795 yea, it was a hippie phrase.

Yeah, cussing with odd accent with poor fuluency leads to being laughed at.

>>786 It's not that those Korean descendent I met at that time lived in Ashiya, which
is one of the richest residencial area. They lived around Kobe area. Why I named Ashiya was
that those rich ppl were a bit snobbish that I felt they were kinda very proud of
living in Ashiya. Anyway, some discrimination is esp strong in those rich ppl's cities maybe.
Coz they probably don't want to mix with Korean descendent. Those mind made their
prejudice even harder.

Also, those Korean descendent were close to me. They thought I was an exception. So they liked me a lot.
I was more close to them rather than those snobbish Ahiya ppl at that time. Although
I lived in Ashiya at that time, my mind were more international.

>>801
but your parents never admit marriage with korean. and its not discrimination.
its tradition.

I think Britain has same tradition. norble blood.

>>796
I don't want to hear about Korea or Korean in this thread either.

I study English wrod/

>>802
Maybe. Same thing goes to Korean ppl or Korean ppl's tradition is way more stict. The parens
never allow their sons and daughers to get married with Japanese.

>>806
I wouldn't call it a tradition.
It's just their hatred against us.

>>807
I 　agree

it is not big deal like tradition

Japanese one is a tradition. becuase its limited for noble people.
there is high possibility that richer Japanese has noble linage.
especialy. who lives in rich people's place like Ashiya.
poor Japanaese can marry with everyone.
but Korean one is different. every Korean hate mixed blood with another race.
its just discrimination.

and poor Japanese cant marry with noble Japanese either.

>>810
Japanese people should read more Western fantasy romance stories.
Those are all about the beggar and the princess (or prince) having "true love".
Then they get married and live happily ever after.
Completely unrealistic, yes, but it helps lessen the severity of
class divides and promotes equality, as well as encouraging children
to question the established, outdated social order.

I'm not trying to push Western beliefs; that's just my opinion.
In fact in the US I think we did that too much, so that now people
assume that they can do anything they want, and become lazy or criminal.

thats just story. there are a lot of unhappiness in marriage of different class.

The marriage is the graveyard of one's life.
This saying is quite familiar to Japanese.

>>813
Haha I entirely agree.
What is that saying in Japanese?

>>812
Oh yes, I realise that. But it seems to me like different classes in
Japan avoid each other and that would cause prejudice from both sides,
as well as hindering upward mobility.

no. it would make upward mobility. because eveyone can be noble blood or ruin.
people see and evaluate the family. this is same culture as Chinese.
The Family name is important. poeple loves noble family.
and people hate disgrace family even if the one did not anything bad.

family is important. other people see behave of whole family.
so doughter's hasband or son's wife is very very important. including their linages.
to became a noble one.

>>814
結婚は人生の墓場

japanese people disliked koreans. i know it was indeed not good manner
but also it is wrong that we judge the past history by value system of today
i'v heard from my grandmother that when she was a child ,a korean elderly woman
used to came to the front of her house's door, and lifting up her cloth ,having a piss
bare-assed without hesitating
furthermore another my elderly relative said that her korean maid used to wiped
her children's backside with her long cloth(called chogori ) and then wiped the dishes
with the same cloth ,too
because the japanese of the time was already cleanliness freak, they couldn't bear
such korean's manner at all, maybe i thnk
there was still a major cultural difference between japan and korea
the ordinary people of not only korean but also chinese at the time were considered
such kind of people like that from the world, not only from japanese.

this board has taught me so much about japanese society and relations
with other east asian countries.
この掲示板はすごいな

>>819
But you should read what's written in 2ch in general with grain of salt like when you
read posts in other forums.

It doesn't necessarily mean that what 2channelers think represents
average Japanese opinons.

Here's a funny 2ch jargon, "2ch brain." If you believe what's
written in 2ch 100% and think what's 2channelers behave and thinik is
the standard of average Japanese citizen, your brain is infected by 2ch's
way of thinking, hence you have "2ch brain."

I guess 99％ of koreans are crazy.
1％ are slight crazy.

suck korean's dick mofo

how is 2ch pronounced in japanese?
ニチャン？ニチャンネル？ツーチャンネル？

shut the fuck up ginzo

>>823
にちゃん

spread ma cream ya rasshole motherfucker

BBS　of　Korea or China are more great!
There are full of abuse on Japanese and Japan.
They think they can do everything against J

but in WW2, japanese make war to chinese right ?

how about Nanjing Massacre ?
we have image to japanese as psyco killer

>>827
Chinese attacked Japanese first. just like they are saying "kill Japanese".
They did what they always want.

>>827 -> 828

atomic bomb in Hiroshima & Nagasaki >>>>>the wall what never across>>>>>>>> Nanjing Massacre


and furthermore, they exaggerate the occupation as Massacre

Han race means "Center race". They cant accept stronger existance than themselfs.
becuase They think whole race other than Han race are slave of Han.
so They always do invasion. tibet. phillipin. because they are slave for them.
Japanese is also slave of them in their though. but before WW2.
Japan defeated China once. to make independence of Korea. Korea was slave of China literaly.
so They got angry strongly. They call us Japanese a dog. becaude dog deafted its master. its big deal.

defeated ?

truely, japanese origin is chinese
it cant be helped

Chinese National Party attacked Japanese army on Shanhai.
Shanhai was British rule area. so there were british, american and japanese.
They attacked only japanese. and all dead. thats directly cause of war.

to my own opinion
Nanjing Massacre occured but on far smaller scale than China advocate
This kind of incident is inherent in a great war
And it is the China that have killed huge numbers of her own citizens
besides she has invaded Tibet and killed 1,2 million Tibetan people during the past 60 years
Could that kind of China blames Japan for the Nanjing case

Nanjing massacle is real. but 300,000 is lie.
and first of all. Chinese were cruler than Japanese. they did a lot of cruel things.
it was some kind of revenge.

Would any native English speakers here do me a favor?
I'm looking for a RSS reader that matches my need.
There has to be some features in it.

1) It checks site update every 1 minute (or less than 1 minute.)
Lots of RSS reader's interval for update check is every ten minutes or longer

2) When it founds site update, it notifies me by a popup.
By this feature, I can notice when site update is done even when I am
reading other websites or doing something on my PC.
Popup has to be easily recognizable because when I'm concentrating on
reading a website or doing something with my pc, a small popup on the corner
of screen is hard to be recognized.

3)When RSS reader finds updates, it lets me know by sound. Sound Notification.
By this feature, Even if I am away from PC, it can tell me when updates is done.
Just one second of sound is OK.

I looked for an RSS feed reader again and again that matches my need and found one, but unfortunately,
it doesn't have 3) sound notification. I'm exhausted looking for it by reading
English websites. So, I'm asking you native English speakers.
As far as I know, there're no Japanese RSS reader that meets my conditons.
I looked for Japanese one thoroughly before but one reader meets 2) and 3)
but sitecheck interval is 30 minutes.

Some meets the condition of 2) and 3) but update check interval is 30 minutes or more.
What I'm using now meets the conditions, 1) and 2) but it has no sound
notification.

* RSS can be stand alone type or Firfox's add on.

If you find an RSS reader that matches my conditons above, I'll return you a favor.
If you have a paypal, I'll pay you 1000yen(=$11.99, 7.58pounds)through paypal or I'll do
something you want me to do in returen, like looking for information about something Japanese
you are interested in or both.

Tell me if you're interested in my offer. If you find one, I'll show you free mail
address here and interact with you so that you can tell me about the RSS.
If you want me to pay you before you tell me the name of RSS reader,
I'll do it although I prefer see how the RSS works in advance.)

ここほんといいわ
すごく英語の勉強になる
今は視聴率スレとここだけ見てる

>>841
The problem is that lots of mistakes are included in posts by Japanese
English learners like me.

So writing English yourself and post here is better than just reading posts here.

what is 視聴率スレ ?

my full shit is coming, Jesus

視聴率スレis a thread where people can know viewer ratings
of the previous day's TV programs and make so much fuss
over the figures in.

Is the viewership of the program of Arashi good?
It seems that they are taking charge of many programs.
Is Arashi the most popular?

Doesn't the name of Kame or akanishi come out these days ?

Since when did this thread become so popular?

It is after reviving after a server down. Several English experts came to participate.

Hanshin was beaten by YOKOHAMA by a score of 3 to 4

It is said that it was the last game in Koshien.

Is it true although there is a rumor that China prepared the missile?

>>849
This thread got me more interested since the last thread so I have participated
in this thread often now(I'm not an English expert though).

Some of my ALTs in junior high would often spell a capital letter“R”(but small size) as a small letter.
Is it a regional phenomenon?

>>854
You mean something like...

http://odinsbeard.net/imgdump/rs.png ?

hey dude, suck ya mom's dick lol

One of the most moving drama I watched was about class division in Japan.
Watch Tatta Hitotsu no koi
http://www.dramacrazy.net/japanese-drama/tatta-hitotsu-no-koi/
My dear Kamenashi is a bag of bones poor boy who falls in love with
a rich girl. A beautiful story and soundtrack.

Johnny's freak is mostly crazy bitch
they should die for japan

yeah, they are kimoota.

furthermore, they are Syota-complex

>>855
yes.
Almost all Japanese don't do it, I guess.

>>861
I've never seen anyone do it before - even we don't write 'r' like that.
Took me three tries just to write that because a normal lowercase 'r'
just comes naturally.

>>862
Really?
The ALTs were American and Swedish, who wrote R.

>>863
It's strange even for a Americans and Swedes to write like that - do you
remember whether they were writing in print or cursive?

>>864
In print. Actually I've never seen a foreigner writing in cursive.

>>846
just recently　one of variety shows hosted by Arashi got very high rating of 18%.
this is great achievement for Arashi

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>>864
I'm curious about why you wrote in cursive when in most occasion
except signiture, English-speaking people write in print as far as I know.

Many Japanese English learners don't know the fact that cursive isn't used much.

i think most popular actor in japan now is MUKAIRI（向井理）
he is 　taller,handsome,manly. unusually　these days

suck ya popa's pussy asshole

i look forward to Nino's movie "Ohoku 大奥"

Ohoku is inner palace of castle in Edo Period ,
where are many beatiful young ladies who were put together
in order to entertain Shogun-sama.

In Nino's Ohoku movie Shogun-sama is female (笑)
the situation is portrayed　by contraries　totally
Nino act as so hadsome young　ｓamurai　that draw the attention
of the female Shogun-sama (笑
it is definitely worth seeing.！

it's a fucking piece of shit, i fucking know it
nothing but a jerk off itself

>>870
Most children here are initially taught to write in print, and then cursive
is taught from about ages 7-8. At least that was the case when I was at school.
For many years, I also wrote in print, but found cursive was faster and was
neater than my print-handwriting. So from about 21 onwards, my normal handwriting
has been cursive. However, I still use print when jotting down ideas and sketches.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9261/handl.png

>>873 Thanks for the info, I looked at the CM

It looks like good entertainment,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_G6S0SAmQQ&feature=related

Btw are you a male Johnny's fan?

by the fuckin way, suck my stiff dick buchiac

skirts are crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

go fuck yourself

asshole !

You may well say so

When a guy enjoys wearing a skirt, he probably does want to fuck himself.

Scotish tradisional dresses are skirt.
In the battle. they show thing to enemy.

A movie called Brave Heart is famous.

I'm practicing listening English.
In the following movie, from 1:04 to 1:51 what do they say?
I wrote it down but I know there are mistakes.
Could you correct me?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO4PifwXyiw

Tell me Scot, are there any particular problems in driving on the Monza banking?
The banking?
It's just so damn rough up there, that the car flicks all over the place.
Whenever blow hundred and eighty you know
at that speed your reactions can barely keep up with these sudden changes in direction.
The trouble is, the high centrical forces push the car into the banking.
and use up all the suspension movement.
What you are driving becomes a car with no springs.
You feel like getting a series of punches in a bag.
I hate it. I'm sick of the play.
That is what a car is something that really worries me.
That's no matter how the car was set up in important several places on the banking.
Undecided car just come crashing down on to the biggest bank.
Everything's shaking or banging all the time.
Sometimes you can swear on whole things a bit.

>>885

Very close!

And tell me, Scott, are there any particular problems in driving on the Monza banking?
The banking? It's just so damn rough up there, that the car flicks all over the place.
We'll never blow a hundred and eighty, you know.
And at that speed, your reactions can barely keep up with these sudden changes in direction.
The trouble is, the high centrifugal forces push the car into the banking and use up all the
suspension movement.
[So] what you're driving becomes a car with no springs.
It feels like you're getting a series of punches in the back.
I hate it. I'm sick of pain.
But it's what the car is suffering that really worries me.
Because no matter how the car is set up, it bottoms at several places on both bankings.
The underside of the car just comes crashing down onto the biggest bumps.
Everything's shaking and banging all the time. Sometimes you could swear the whole thing's
falling to bits.

The other day. I went to the neighborhood McDonald's. Y'know, Mac.
But there was a whole crowd of people there, and I couldn't sit down.
And then, I saw a curtain hanging from the ceiling, which had "Megamac" written on it.
Come on, you retards. You idiots.
Hey, you guys, don't come to McDonald's just because it says Megamac, morons
It's Megamac!
Fucking Megamac!
There are parents and children here too. A four person family coming to McDonalds?
"All right, Papa's gonna order some Megamacs--"
I can't watch anymore.
You bastards, I'll give you a hamburger if you leave those seats.
McDonald's, it should be more bloodthirsty.
During mealtimes, a brawl might start at the cash register.
Provoked or unprovoked. That kind of atmosphere would be great.
If you've brought a woman, piss off.
So, just when I'd finally sat down, the guy in the neighbooring booth asks for "a cheeseburger"
That really got my blood boiling.
Hey you, Cheeseburgers aren't that popular at all, you know?
Retard. He says "cheeseburger" with such an arrogant face.
I want to has him if he really wants to eat a cheeseburger.
I want to interrogate him. I want to interrogate him for an hour.
You, did you really want to order a cheeseburger?
I'm a McDonald's expert, and among us McDonalds's experts, the most popular dish recently is the chicken fillet. It's that.
A chicken fillet for the go. That's a McDonald's expert's recommendation.
Chicken fillets have chicken meat in them. There's more chicken than vegetables.
Get that. That, and a large fries. It's the best.
But if you order it, the employees will annoy with stuff like "Sir, chicken fillets will take a bit of time, is that OK with you?"
I can't recommend this to an amateur. So then, you bastards, what I mean is that you should just eat a hamburger.

Also, age

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>>886
Wow, thanks!
さすがイギリス人

>>887
I didn't know that there is an english version of yoshinoya kopipe.
I really like it.
but what's the meaning of "I want to has him"?
I wanna interrogate you about that.

>>890
Whoops, I made a typo there, it should say "I want to ask him".

　　This fellow has been interrogating
　　me for roughly an hour now!
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i think that kopipe translation will be their interest.
there are many fantastic jokes for the internet.

Just wondering, is 2ch aware of 4chan? y'know, that english futaba.

not really

does 4chan mean Channel 4 ?

>>896
Yeah, something like that.

It's basically just an english version of 2chan, it's got around 9 million users and it's created most of english internet culture.

>>876Btw are you a male Johnny's fan?

No,i'm not a male
and i'm a very big fan of Mtsujun and Arashi
Mtsujun is soooooo cute!
the other day when i went to a summer festival held at nearby hachiman shrine,
there was a stall selling pictures of stars, full of photos of Mtsujun and Arashi,
i bought one of them then many teenage girls who hanged out there ,maybe
Johnny's fans, stared at me , becase i am obasan? haha...

>>897 it's got around 9 million users

really?
I dont think there's such a biig site in the world except 2ch

they made our kuma to pedobear.

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>>897
It does, it pretty much exploded mid-2006 and has been extremely rapidly growing since. Although at the cost of its quality.

>>901
son of a bich

>>899
I wouldn't say it has 9 million users, but it is pretty famous with Americans who are part of the net-culture. I wouldn't say it is popular, though... a lot of users of Western anonymous boards see it as crude, or kind of useless, I suppose.

>>875
Thanks for the demo.

Funny thing is that "I" is in print I guess?
Cursicive "I" is just one stroke and faster but maybe you left it in print
to make it distinctive or something.

http://gakusan.gakken.jp/home/column/Q-A/article/img/20100721_hikkitai.gif

>>870
Some people find cursive to be easier, and some people find manuscript to be easier.
I write in manuscript. More and more young people are preferring to
write in manuscript because of the increasing popularity of computers.
Practically all older people write in cursive.

>>854
My father writes lowercase R's like that. I don't know why, it's very uncommon.

>>906
"manuscript" meaning printing.

I would say the majority of (at least American) youths and young adults write in print.
I would recommend learning to read cursive but unless you're very good
at handwriting, print is more legible and easier to write slowly.

>>906
I'm >>854 the questioner.
I thought nanashi-san knew why they write like that because イギリス人-san didn't know about that. So though I supposed it was fairly common in America...

This is a wonderful thread, isn't it ?

>>908
It is not common. However, some people (usually older) sometimes write minuscule (small)
letters the same as majuscule (capital) letters, but again, it is not common.

Also note, Cyrillic (used for Russian etc.) contains a я, which looks like a small R but backwards.

ToysRus is a russian company...;p

Toys я Us? Hehe.

In Latin script it is easy to tell apart male from female handwriting.
Is it the same in Japanese?

who posted this thread?
japanese or foreigner?

Japanese female handwriting(especially younger) is called 丸文字(round script), which is quite distinctive - round and soft.

>>914
丸文字？Isn't it long time ago?

You must be around 40 years old.

>>913
Both.

>>916
That's not what I meant.
i meant it　who build this thread
because an english dectionary site translates "スレを立てる"　as　"post thread"

>>917
Ah, I see. I think スレを立てる is translated as "make a thread" or
"start a thread" but I'm just a English learner so I'm not sure about that.　

Probably, Japanese made this thread. But If I remeber correctly, イギリス人 here has made
a thread before. This is part 146 so there's a possibility that a few threads in the past was made by a foreigner in
the past. But I think mostly Japanese people made threads.

>>917
Who started this thread?
No idea. The first post is in correct English, but the phrasing and
sentence structure is more like Japanese. So maybe it was started
by a Japanese person.

>>918
Finding obscure tea names is all part of the fun...

>>919
Someone said before that "Here is the place to have a ball!!!!!" is
strange and it should be "This is the place to ...."
Do you agree with him/her?

Other than that, do you mean threre are some unnatural sounding parts in >>1?

>>921
Yes, that, and also some of the people listed sound like they came
from a Japanese mind. Either that or they were appended on over time.

"Diplomats' spoiled sons"? I never hear that phase used in English...

>>922
That is supposed to mean, "Spoiled sons of diplomats," although I don't know
if it still sounds unnatural.
The people listed are people who actually frequented this thread in the
past or they show characteristics of people from overseas who frequented/
frequent here.

And in the case of "Diplomats' spoiled sons," イギリス人, who
is a regular here, fits in the category.

Oh, not limited to people who frequented from people overseas.
At least Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers were both Japanese.

Today is hot,isn't it?
Oh my GOD!　I didn't find job today too!
I want to work!

>>925
you "can't" get your job or "don't" get it?

There is no work

>>927
How old are you? A student?
Job hunting depends on your situation definitely. Could you tell us of you?

>>928
Thank you for the consideration.

Everybody went to bed already?

not yet.
it's in the morning in the US.

im not home , sex all night mad head just now

>>931
Don't post your reply, while having sexes.

>>931
good morning

I will go home soon (in Deutsch)

i dont give a fuck
i just need dutch wife dude

but,ilove onani every much.

>>919
The person who started this thread used the word "weeaboo". It originated on 4chan, so I would say the the creator of this thread is probably not japanese.

Hello! Everybody!!
btw Do you know claustrophobic?
Maybe it is about murder cases.

>>938
Claustrophobic means that you're scared of small enclosed spaces.

>>939
Oh, Thanks!!　
... But who does scare me with any small enclosed spaces?
I can't understand well.

HELP

>>937
But the list has built up over time, each thread using the first post of
the previous thread as a template, so either choice is possible. Weeaboos
entered the list in Chat in English Part 105, I think.

>>942
That's just only "You think".

>>942
Oh, I see. I guess the creator of this thread is probably japanese then.

>>940
It's a phobia, meaning that the fear is natural and irrational. Someone who is claustrophobic does not know why they fear small places, they only do, much like how some people naturally fear spiders.

nigga change the world, we fuckin know it

Chinese also change the world, we fuckin know it

hanshin was beaten by Hiroshima by a score of 0 to 5 !
What a week team !

Good morning

>>949
おはようございます

It is the climate which is quite easy to pass today.
It is the optimal climate for a walk.
The good season which is not hotly or cold has come.

Chatting in English is a good idea,
but what are we supposed to talk about?

Besides, why does everybody use unnatural English
as if they were writing thesises?

Yes, we have a great weather today, don't we? It's Saturday.
We can go out and enjoy the sun. The air is refreshing as well.
What a wonderful day!

>>934
Sie sind das Manko?

>>952 "theses" pronounced 「シシズ」

Who here speaks unnatural English?

Unnatural or natural, it's English, right? We can make it out without
any problems. Let's have fun.

>>954
Nein

Well, I know my English is sometimes unnatural but most of us,
speakers of English as a foreign language speak English with some
errors but as long as it makes some sense, who cares? Right?

I sally forth to a town buying an English book today also.

Well, Who is claustrophobic?

What is the rule for a next thread? Who posts a new thread?

>>961
There's not really any rule. Usually it's a case of posting a new one
somewhere around 975, and using >>1 as a template, but changing the
type of tea and the thread URL to this one... and +1 thread number.
Then just post the new thread URL in here to make it easier to locate.

>>955
The poster meant "unnatural" in the sense that most of the posters in this thread speak very formally, while the average English-speaker speaks very casually.

One is not better than the other, they are just used in different situations.

It's better formal than too casual when you start talking to a total
stranger, so it's safer this way.

>>964
Plus, some of us do actually speak that way.

When you learn English mainly from books (textbooks), your English
will be very formal. I wonder how many of us have actually lived
or stayed in countries where English is spoken?!

I once visited an English speaking country.
I arrived in a hospital, then I was washed and sent to a house
with some woman and man. I've been living in that country since then.

>>967
I'm not quite sure what you mean.
You sound as if you were confined in a pshchiatric ward or something...
Are you all right?

>>968
It's a joke...
I was born and raised in the US my whole life lol

>>967
You mean you were in your mom's womb when your parents visted US as tourists?
Hard to understand what you mean.

>>966
Never visited overseas so I haven't confirmed myself whether English is
really spoken somewhere in the world or not. I suspect making students learn
English at school is Japanese education ministry's conspiracy to torture
students when in fact English is not spoken anywhere in the world.

But on that note, going to a country that speaks a language natively
is the best way to learn it. I had studied Spanish for 5 years
but had never heard of the word "vale" (which means OK) until
I went to Spain, and it's such a common word...

Oh, I see. After you were washed, probably you got circumcized and
kept crying day and night annoying the woman and man...
When people start joking, I get confused and start asking stupid
questions. Sorry about that.

Last time I visited America, a lot of people spoke either in Spanish or in English....

>>970
I mean I was born in a hospital here, washed as a baby, and went
home and lived with my parents.

I promise you, there are places where people speak English!

>>969
Aha. You were just joking..

>>962
Hey you the British.
You know well about japanese 2ちゃんねる rules.
It's like OTAKU.

>>974
I see. I don't believe until I go to an English speaking country and
confirm myeslf. hehe

>>971
You have Spanish speaking communities in US so you don't have to
go to Spain, do you?
Is it hard to find a language partner in Boston? In this day and age,
you can find one on the net. Claiglist or SNS is what you can take advantage of.
Searching for a language partenr in your campus sounds good, too.

Or they are associated with illegal immigrants so you don't buy the idea of
making friends with Latinos in your country?

The more variety of English here, the more variety of people are here.

>>977
Well, actually, Spanish spoken in America and Mexico is very much different from that is spoken in Spain in Europe.
Whenever you speak to Mexicans in Continental Spanish, they behave as if they ran into Aliens or something like that.
It's fun to observe their reactions.
My girlfrined was from Spain. So we often made fun of them with this.

>>978
I　agree

>>979
Thanks for sharing the story.
I didn't know Spanish spoken in Spain and Spanish spoken in Mexico and US are
so different.

American are originally from UK and Mexicans and other Spanish speaking countries
in the Sounth America is from Spain. I wonder why in the case of the former,
English aren't so different between UK and US, while in the case of Spanish,
Spanish in Spain and the South America became different.

>>981
British English and American English are not that different, it's true.
Unless you compare these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ3_6pcdGuU
vs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFxOqFRgD8o&feature=related

The first is a heavy American accent, the second is a heavy British accent.

But normally, Latin American Spanish and Castillian (Spain Spanish)
are more different than British and American.

Anyway, all the cafeteria workers here speak Spanish, so I talk
to them sometimes. But they think my Castillian accent is weird.