Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 127

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Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 126
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Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers, Part-Time-Preachers,
Diplomats' spoiled sons, losers who can't remember Kanji characters,
Big-boobs fans, Weeaboos from all around the world, learners of Japanese
who are too lazy to update their Japanese blogs very often, cunning
linguists, and Admins of deserted imageboards. And let's celebrate the comeback of the Internet-addicted
housewife!

Here is the place to have a blast!!!!

「英語で雑談」（猛苦笑）

good news everyone~!

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hey, sparky. how you doing?

hey sparky i tried to post some links for you on your board the other night but it would not let me.
might want to upgrade to ubuntu

>>5
good

>>6
F5
F5
F5
F5
you can post some links now!

>>7
ok i posted them in chat with sparky

ok

>>1
You made this thread too early because another one is stil alive.

.....................................

.....................................forgot trip

Whatever, >>1, just hear me out, okay? It's not really related to this thread, but hear me out anyways.
I went to Yoshinoya the other day. Yeah, you heard me, Yoshinoya.
Well, the place was crammed full of people and I couldn't find a seat.
So I look around and there's some stupid banner announcing "150 YEN OFF!"
What the hell are they thinking?
Don't come to Yoshinoya for the sake of 150 yen, you idiots.
One freaking fifty, for crying out loud...
There's even a whole family over there. All out for some Yoshinoya, huh? Fucking great.
"Okay, Daddy's gonna order the extra-large!" God, it's pathetic.
I'll give you 150 yen to get out of that damn seat.
Yoshinoya should be a brutal place.
The tense atmosphere, where the guy on the other side of the U-shaped table would start a fight soon as look at ya.
That stab-or-be-stabbed mentality, that's what's great about this place.
Women and children can bugger off home.
Anyways, I was finally about to start eating, and then the bastard beside me goes "extra-large, with extra sauce"
...who in the world orders extra sauce nowadays, you moron?
I want to ask him, "do you REALLY want to eat it with extra sauce?"
I'd interrogate him for a goddamn hour if that's what it takes.
Are you sure you didn't just want to try saying "extra sauce"?
Coming from a Yoshinoya veteran like me, the latest trend is this: extra green onion.
That's right, extra green onion. And an egg. That's how the pros eat.
Extra green onion means you get a little less beef, and a lot more onion. It's a bit more expensive, I'll grant you.
But then, it's delicious. This is unbeatable.
However, if you order this then you'll stick out, and next time the employees might recognize you and add you to their list.
The inexperienced need not apply.
Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say... is that you, >>1, should just stick with today's special.

>>13
You sir are a really good writer.

Nah not need to praise up.
It's just copypasta from http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1102173036/36

>>15
what a strange thread

>>13
そのコピペ外人もウケたりするのかな？ｗ

>>13 is one of the "yoshinoya rant", originally from previous 2ch.
I found it out that this translation one may be close translation as long as the original it had.

this is my current name
[and perminate]

【神奈川】「飼い犬殴られた」と憤慨、米兵に殴る蹴るの暴行加え、鼻の骨を折る…建築業の男を逮捕


神奈川県警大和署は９日、米兵に暴行し重傷を負わせたとして傷害容疑で同県綾瀬市大上、
建築業、斉木雄容疑者（２８）を逮捕した。
「米兵が自分の飼い犬の頭を殴ったのでカッとなった」と供述しているという。

調べでは、斉木容疑者は２日午後１１時ごろ、自宅前の路上で、通りがかった
米海軍厚木基地所属の男性２等兵曹（２８）に殴る蹴るの暴行を加え、
鼻の骨を折るなどのケガを負わせた疑い。

県警によると、兵曹は同市内の飲食店で同僚らと酒を飲んだ後、基地に帰っていたが、
サングラスを紛失したことに気づき現場周辺を探していた。

近くの防犯カメラには斉木容疑者が兵曹を一方的に暴行する姿が写っていたという。

http://sankei.jp.msn.com/affairs/crime/090109/crm0901091757019-n1.htm

What the hell? Thread 126 isn't even three quarters finished yet.

>>21
there is 2 part 126s??

>>22
http://academy6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1230726358/

この板は朝鮮人の巣窟。常に妬み僻みが絶えないのはそのためだ。
攻撃的なレスはほとんど韓国人。犬臭い韓国人は出て行け

let's ressurect this thread!

>>24
I'd like you to the comment in English, if possible.

Bob Mathews is gone with breeze.

>>26
Huh?

Bob Mathews rules!

>>24
That wasn't very nice.

I have a question for the 名無しさん here.
Blood types--why do they matter? I mean for fictional characters.
Mine is O+ by the way. All that means to me is that I'm a universal (blood) donor.

This is kind of tangential, but in my family, all four major blood types are represented.
My dad is type A, my mom is type B, I'm O, my sister I don't remember, and my brother is type AB.
Pretty unusual.
B is pretty rare in the US; it's only 10% of the population.
Which makes my brother one in a million, actually closer to 1 in ten million.

>>30
I don't belive in blood type either.
It's non sense. Only japanese and korean believe blood type characters.

Taling about blood type is one tool to enhance conversations.
I am afraid of being wet blanket so I'm not sure I can directly
denying and critisizing that stuff in front of them. They talk about blood time as
shared premise.
I might be reagarded as square and unfunny man.

But maybe blood tipe analysys is better than fundamentalism though..

Wow many mistakes after I read the sentences throgh.

>>30
There's an article on wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_types_in_Japanese_culture

The chart says type AB is cool, controlled, rational etc,
but as far as I know, AB is more commonly known as the eccentric one. (at least around where i live)
Type B, IIRC, is said to go and do things his way and become either a hero or a loser.
A and O are just as written in the chart.

Speaking of the relationships between the blood types and the person's character, experts were discussing that on a TV program today, and all 30 experts denied the rumor that blood
types has influence upon one's personality.

>>31->>34
So, it's like the zodiac signs. Silly superstition, but sometimes fun.
I see from the chart that I am supposed to be agreeable, optimistic and sociable.
That is okay...but I'm also vain? rude?
Maybe sometimes...

Do you have any number superstitions in Japan? I've heard that the number 4 isn't popular.
You probably already know about the number 13 superstitions here.
I'm embarrassed to say that I fear the number 13 a little bit, and am
always uneasy when Friday the 13th comes around.

>>35
Oh.. 米人, I have a similar symptom concerned with numaer superstition as you have.
Whenever my personal things turned out to be related to the number 4, I definitely feel embarrassed especially when I'm nervous.
I'm now efforting to abondon this idea because it is irrational without doubt.

Some of the parking lots are numbered and 4 isn't adopted more often than
not. It's like, 1, 2, 3, 5, 6....

Another unfavorable number in Japan is 9.
9 is usually pronounced as きゅう(kyuu), but it can be pronounced as く(ku), too.
The kanji 苦, meaning "agony" can be pronounced く(ku)　so the number 9
is the second least popular number.

7 is the most popular number, I guess. I don't know where this is
coming from but there's a term, "Lucky Seven." Maybe 7 is the most
popular number overseas, too.

Some hotels have no 4th floor. Or was it just an urban legend?
Maybe it was hospitals... I dont use hotels or hospitals, so I dont really know.

Number 9 also means 9mm pistol, that is to say Suicide.

>I want to go to the University of Chicago's graduate business school,

Tennessean worte this in previous thread. What's the difference between
graduate business school and MBA?
MBA is what you try to acquire when you go to a graduate business school?
I don't understand the relation between the two.

米人 wrote that in the previous thread that it depends on university whether
they weigh more GPA or SAT. GPA is a grade point average so if you have
high GPA that means you get good grades in school and that leads to
you getting high score on SAT, too, right? Because SAT is a test to
measure how you acquire knowledge which is supposed to acquire at
school. I don't understand there's a possibility that while you get
high GPA, you can't get high score on SAT. These two are proportional
things, if I'm not wrong.

And the character wearing a panty on his head is popular 2ch character
you often see when browsing 2ch. I didn't know he has name but his name
is やる夫.(Yaruo)

You can see lots of やる夫's AA here.

http://d.hatena.ne.jp/YARUO/

Thanks everyone for your comments!
7 is definitely a lucky number!! My second favorite (after 5, for some
weird reason I really love the number 5).
Many hotels in the US don't have 13th floors. So I'm not alone in my
irrational fear.
I didn't know about the number 9 being unpopular. That's interesting!
I like the number 9 because it makes a nice 3X3 matrix, perfect for tic-tac-toe.

>>40
GPA and SAT scores are somewhat correlated, but not always. There are several reasons for this.
First, there are a number of people who suffer from "test anxiety", so they tend to do worse on
standardized, multiple choice tests than their abilities would predict. The GPA reflects
all work that you do to earn your grades, so it is made up of your grades from papers, exams,
projects, homework, class participation etc. and therefore is a better reflection of your
abilities as a student, as long as the class wasn't too easy.
The above can also be true of people with learning disabilities, who often don't do well on timed
tests like the SAT.
Smart people who are lazy in school might do well on their SATs, but have mediocre GPAs.
Some people naturally do well on standardized tests because there are test-taking strategies
that you can use to boost your scores on the SAT. I think a lot of the SAT prep courses
actually teach test-taking strategies, rather than academics.
The SAT was originally designed to test aptitude (like an IQ test) rather than a
command of facts. Whether or not it does so is a matter of debate. The SAT test is thought
by some to be biased against certain ethnic groups.
Tests of whether you have acquired knowledge are new in this country, and are
administered by the state in which you live. In Massachusetts, every grade has to take a set of
tests known as the "MCAS". In 10th grade in Massachusetts, you must pass the MCAS in English,
Math and Science to graduate from a public high school. Kids that attend private
schools are exempted from the MCAS graduation requirement.

>>35
I wrote >>31 before I read your post enough. lol
I assumed you were telling specifically about the culture of blood type personality.
I guess scientific reason is the first to come.
Blood types are essentially important for blood donation.
The quicker blood types are known, the better, more convenient.

Yes, belief in blood type personality is prevalent too.
It's like games and astrology. But more serious and believed to
be more scientific thing.
Most of Japanese don't take astrology seriously and think it
a game and superstition. But blood type personality is widely
regarded as both scientific (blood might influence personality)
and empirical thing.

I guess science researchers and intellectuals generally don't believe such a thing.
(I'm not the one though. lol)
However it's talked in daily life and even on TV program.
like"Aren't you blood type A? Yeah, I figured!
You are "******(personality of blood A type)"
Probably It's widely accepted or too trivial thing to refute with a straight face.
Riding on the wave of conversations is important thing too.
So peope who are against that belief would just let the conversation
go.
I might make a wry face. I'm a wet blanket and cynical man.

zodiac signs?
It reminds me of a serial killer "zodiac" and sakakibaraseito.
My knowledge is biased..

>>43
Might I add, an increasingly accepted alternative to the SAT is the ACT,
originally popular in the northern-central US. Many universities will now
accept an ACT score in place of a SAT score. Some students find the ACT to
be the easier test, while others still perform better on the SAT. Many take
both! Among other differences, the ACT includes a science subsection, unlike
the SAT. It is also said that the ACT tests one’s learned knowledge (or "command
of facts, as mentioned above) unlike the IQ-like approach of the SAT.

>>46
Where are you from?

Is the person who wrote >>13 Aussie??

You aMericans use "Bugger off" huh?

>>47
Northeastern US, however I attend college in the Midwest (Iowa).

WHITE REVOLUTION!

>>49
What interests you about Japan?
You're not going to use a fixed handle name are you?

>>43
Hit the nail on the head. I know so many kids who do well on their ACTs but
have terrible grades. Quite a shame actually. The first time I took the ACT
I had terrible allergies and was sneezing all over the place and the proctor
eventually had to get me a box of tissues. Not a fun time. Thank god for retakes
or I would have been really pissed off with the first score.

Illinois has something called the Prairie State Achievement Exam which tests
math, science, and English for public schools. However, the test is so simple I'm pretty sure you
don't even have to have gone to high school to ace it (and then they send you a piece of mail stating
you're a Prairie State Scholar!). That says volumes about the standard of education in Illinois...

>>46
Yea it's great that nearly every university accepts the ACT now. IMHO the ACT is much easier.

>>51
I found it somewhat interesting to be able to converse casually
with Japanese, being that the language barrier is so darn formidable otherwise.
One doesn't get to talk to someone from Japan every day, eh?
For two such developed states, there's not much cross-communication going
on between internet users of Japan and the US. (Although westerners
can be a bit annoying anyway, no?)

>>52
I am a bit pressed to recall the name of New Jersey's standardized
test, but I can tell you the rigor was quite a bit similar. It was
more-or-less an indicator of the presence of one's brain stem at parts.
Although we did not have any "scholar" awards. Hmph!

>>35
The number 8 is also a lucky number in Japan because of its shape that is
roundish and bigger at the end.

I don't believe in the blood type theory of personality at all. To me that's
only a superstitous nonsense. I guess I'm a "wet blanket."

I forgot to mention. That's actually how Japanese people handwrite Number 8.
The round shape symbolizes Peace here.

イギリス人 is 100% English.
I'm proud to have 100% English here.

>>55
When you talk about the shape of the number 8, you are referring
to the Arabic numeral and not 八, right? Do you write it differently
than we would?

>>55
It may be a shame thing but I didn't know 8 has a unique meaning in terms of superstitions.
I guess it isn't more widely accepted by people in Japan that the number 4 or 9, and I believe so.

>>57

I'm proud of if wizard teeth too.

>>58
Come to think of it, there is a little difference in handwriting of the Arabic numbers between countries.
Probably 4 and 7 written by Americans are the more confusing ones to normal Japanese people and vise versa.

>>55
I've never heard of it.

Only 4 and 13 and 666 leavs restlessness on me.
Like when I watch the clock and time is 4:44,
it may feel inauspicious but soon I forget it.
13 and 666 are obviously influences from western media.

Blood type analysis is wholely diffrent thing.
It is believed on the basis of both (psuedo) scientific evidences and believer's
experiences.
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%A1%80%E6%B6%B2%E5%9E%8B%E6%80%A7%E6%A0%BC%E5%88%86%E9%A1%9E#.E8.A1.80.E6.B6.B2.E5.9E.8B.E3.81.A8.E6.B0.97.E8.B3.AA.E3.81.AE.E9.96.A2.E9.80.A3.E7.A0.94.E7.A9.B6
wiki article on 血液型性格分類

>>55
>>59
I'm afraid I was completely confused! What the heck was I thinking??
「八」 is what I meant, wider at the end. The sound "Marui (round)"
symbolize prosperity and sometimes peace.

Have you ever seen Daruma dolls? They have the shape round and are
seen as good luck charms here.

I heard that the former president Jorge. W. Bush has A personality after his last speech as a president of the US.

BTW, A personality seems to be one of the classified characters which is depicted in the way which is popular among Americans.
I learned it via TV program today.

血液型の話に噛み付いた奴は朝鮮人
偉そうに日本語の講釈を垂れる奴も朝鮮人
世界の癌がこのスレに終結
害人の皆さん朝鮮人の相手などしないでください

>>61
I make my 7's with a horizontal bar through the middle of the vertical stroke,
like so: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Hand_written_7.png
I do the same with my letter z's.

>>63
These guys? Very cute!
http://www.bookmarkall.com/bookmark/images_root/full/91e0b1a4ca304c74b9d19b901.gif
They remind me a little of the Russian nesting dolls for some reason.

>>63
I'm just afraid foreigners here generalize your story as
common thing.

Many ignorant japanese including me don't know the meaning.
And unfortunately ignorance is the majority. I can assure you
namely more than half of Japanese don't know 八 is auspicious.
I've heard of 末広がり but never thought further than
its vague image.

But I'm becoming unsure... I can easiy find sites explaing the meaning of
末広がり and 八.　So at least it's ovbious 八 is less known than 7(77).

>>66
I think the bar in the middle of 7 is typical of Americans. No Japanese would put the line there.
Also, most of Americans don't put the vertical stroke on the top left of 7 while the majority of us make 7 with it.
The 7 you linked has the horizontal stroke so it looks like ク rather than フ,
so it looks like Japanese 7 with American bar in the middle.
I think the top left stroke is rare in American handwriting.

I don't think a lot of people put a bar on the top end or in the middle of a seven.
I could be wrong, though.

As for personal eccentricities, I write the number five just like an S.
It's quicker.

i put a line in the middle of my 7.
i also put a line in the middle of my 0 on an angle.

>>68
I don't put the vertical stroke on the top left of a 7 (you're right--no one else
here does that either), but that was the only picture I could find with the bar
in the middle. Most Americans omit the bar. I started writing my 7's that way in
7th grade, copying my Algebra teacher. That style of 7 is more common
in Europe.

Sorry first I should be ashmaed of myself being ignorant of
八.
I use the words like 八百屋(vegetable store) unconsciously.
I thought 八百(eight hudred) just implied "many" they sell.
I never considered to the point why 八 was used.
Using 八 as being auspicous and prosperous in the case of
八百屋 is one theory and seems not 100% established theory though.

Puttin URL's on here is not a good idea.

It's not only Americans but European people handwrite numbers and alphabets
differently than Asian people do. It's easy to spot Asian Asians just by
looking at the shapes of characters they write.

>>66
You think Daruma-san is cute ??
It's a quite opposite feeling to mine.
When I was a child, I couldn't pass by it without feeling fear and sometimes
beared my desire to go to a toilet at night.
The difference may lie in the clearness of faces between you and me.

>>73
Can posting URLs here cause problems?

>>74
It looks so small and round in the pictures, like a child's toy.
Maybe they're bigger than I imagine.

>>30
I have to concede I read it thoroughly for the first time
right now. You meant blood type character from the start.
I was doing something other while browsing this thread.

I was strange yesterday and today Always?
I feel hyper. sorry for my messy writings. I'm not taking
any drugs.

I decided to build a 14th story building and
construct real 13th floor.
I'll make 13th floor vacant and unused.
Then my building will be the first to end the fraud.
You guys are staying in 13th floor called 14th floor.

>>75
I think the URL thing has to do with being worried about linkbacking.
Basically the admins of the linked site can see where their visitors are coming from
and therefore can block access to link followers from a specific website.
2ch's notoriety means admins will be more quick to block access when they see an influx
of linkbacks originating from 2ch. Forcing people to copy-paste a non-linked url
circumvents linkbacking to 2ch.

I think.

I just found a pic of typical Japanese handwriting of numbers:

http://blog.zaq.ne.jp/ja3atj/img/img_box/img20081201103918772.jpg

The left column is the Japanese style. Those on the right are apparently written in a foreign way.

>>75
Ah, yes, it's fair to say that small Darumas in the picture look cute!

日本の癌メディアの一つ朝日新聞が検索トップに
このスレも検索上位に
http://www.google.co.jp/search?source=ig&hl=ja&rlz=&q=english&meta=lr%3D&aq=f

このスレは朝鮮人御用達。"アサヒる"のもいい加減にしろ朝鮮人共。

>>81
http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hl=en&q=english&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

I don't see this thread on the top 10000 results.

I used to work at a part Japanese hotel overseas and the entire 4th
floor was for the staff.

This just tells you how Japanese peole are obsessed with the number 4.

>>81
I don't argue about asahi.
I'm japanese and it's you who are korean. lol
You changed tactics now? Please restart your success story with
white girls!

>>82
それ.comだろうが。日本人が迷惑してるんだよ。わかったか知障朝鮮人

>>83
I think foreigners should learn from the Japanese way and use 13th floor for
the staff or machinery.

あーあ朝鮮人共に囲まれて英語やってる奴の気が知れんわ

>>85
Why do you change your tactics from 崩壊糞英語! or "Japs are unpopular
among white girls" to 知障朝鮮人.

I always get horny when I see trolls troll trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls.

>>78
I'm sorry to be so stupid, but I don't understand at all and I read it
five or six times. Do you mean that if you give a URL, then the admins
of that site will block people from 2ch who click on the link?
Or do I have it backwards?

I suppose this is the time that a lot of Japanese people are starting to
wake up, but this is the time I go to bed.

>>88
お前がgoogleを恐れている朝鮮人だと言うことは良くわかった

>>90
It's simple. When you click a link to go to another website, then your browser tells the linked website where you found the link.
Now 2ch has tons of naughty young kinds so sometimes the website owner blocks visitors if browsers say they came from 2ch;
you don't want Korea-is-great comments on your blog, right?

Omitting the first h in http is a quick fix to this problem. If you copy and paste the url and add h manually,
the browser just tells the linked website that you didn't clicked any link and typed the address manually, i.e., you won't be blocked.

>>91
Good night.

>>75
>>78

Okay guys, what I meant by not a good idea is simple. There's something
you will be led to which you don't want to see before you go to the
site. Stupidity of man dominancy. For what it's worth I'm a woman.

>>94
>Stupidity of man dominancy. For what it's worth I'm a woman.

I know what you mean, ma'am. This isn't a safe place for a lady like you. I'll walk you home.
So just tell me where you live.

>>95

Haha, how courteous... but I have a feeling you have ulterior motives.

>>94

If you were on a sinking boat and instead using the precept "women and children" first,
"men and women equally," was used instead, how would you react?

>>97

I don't even have the slightest idea as I'm a bad sailor
so I won't take a boat.

4chan aricle is featured on the Wikipedia main page. I lol'd a little.

>>99
I find it embarrassing. I can't even admit I browse that site anymore.

By the way, center examination will be taken onthis weekend. Are there students who are gonna take it in this thread?
I remember feeling too nervous to give it my best shot. A lack of sleeping also had a bad effect on my condition.
I hope you won't be the same situation as me. Nothing is more regretful than not being able to show my ability.

>>101
Do you call me ?
I'm going to take it and so I feel a bit nervous now.

>>102
Take it easy! Well, I surely realize that you can't possibly feel confident, though:D
If you can just get through the examination, the goal is within reach.
Stay sharp untill the last moment by all means!

>>103
Thank you.
But, I fought with my father severely last night and it still keeps me excited.
What I'm anxious about the most is this bad condition.

Well, however, this is not first exam in my life. So, I may be a bit more relaxed than average students.
Anyway, thanks a lot.

>>94
I don't know why but you turned me on for some reason.

>>93
Thank you for the explanation! I will start dropping the h's.

>>94
I understand completely! I had a similar problem with the jump page,
which I solved by switching to the Firefox browser.
Here is the site where you can download it for free:
ttp://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
(you will have to copy-paste this in and type in the h)
and it is 100% legitimate. I can't remember now if it blocked the adds
completely or whether I had to right-click to block them, but the people
here who know about computers could instruct you.

>>104
Good luck!

>>105
Good for you. Stay on.

>>106
Thanks for the instructions. I'm technologically challenged but I'll
try that later really carefully.

I'm >>40.

Thank you very much for the detailed explanations about SAT, ACT and
the differences between them and GPA.

I have another question. Let's say there are two high schools whose
students quality is the opposite. A is a very good school with smart
students and B is the one with students where there're not so smart
students.

If one student's GPA at the school A is 4.0 and one student's GPA at
the school B is also 4.0, isn't it unfair to evaluate the both students's
grades equally? How do universities cope with that?

>>108
The universities know the academic rigor of the high school. They base this
on state rankings, test scores, percentage of students taking AP classes, as
well as looking at graduates from a high school who now attend their university.
A high school's reputation can be really helpful for getting into a good university.

http://ime.nu/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Hand_written_7.png
If you wanna get horny, click this. You can type anything
after http : // to get horney.
Great invention! You can get two hares!

>>20
日本にもこんな勇敢な男残ってたんだなｗ
驚いた。
これぞ日本男児、大和魂だわ。

>>110
I don't understand what you're talking about.

Gah! Doing my last minute studying before my Japanese final tomorrow...
Can anyone explain the usage of がる to me?

Fack.

>>113
Why don't you put some sample sentenses.
That makes it easier to explain.

>>113
I don't have a confidence to explain it, but I'd like to try it in the light of my personal
experiences and theory.

Basically, 〜がる is correspond with 〜と感じる in the meanings.
By adding がる at the end of a verb or adjective, you can describe that someone
is in a certain condition at that very time.
がる implies he/she is observing someone.

If you want to say “He feels the temperature is high”, you can say 彼は暑がっている
and you can also say 彼は（今）暑く感じている or something like these in Japanese.

If you want to say “He is obsessed with killing himself.”, you can say 彼は死にたがっている or 彼は死にたいと感じている.
（Of course, you can express the feeling in Japanese the other ways, such as
“彼は自殺することで頭がいっぱいである”　or somehting like this, though.）

(examples)
彼は、家族を助けたがっている。
＝彼は家族を助けたいと感じている。
×私は家族を助けたがっている。

彼は寒がっている
＝彼は寒いと感じている
×私は寒がっている。

>>110
http://ime.nu/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Hand_written_7.png

Click the link and don't click http://ime.nu/ime.nu/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Hand_written_7.png
in the box.
Then scroll downward and see.

Ok so you can't use がる in referring to yourself, only other people.
What about (noun)ほしがっている? Could you say 彼は新しい自転車ほしがっている。?

>>118
>Ok so you can't use がる in referring to yourself, only other people.
YES.

>Could you say 彼は新しい自転車ほしがっている。?
YES. This sentense is absolutely correct and natural.

If you want me to judge whether your sentense is correct or not, feel free to post.

Hello, I am voicing my opinions and desires to speak in the language of English. My canine is applying his tongue to his anus in the corner. It digusts me.

>>118
Well you might want to add「を」between the noun and the verb.

Oops, 「を」is neccessary between 自転車 and ほしがっている.
I missed the word.

>>121
Hmmm, the notes I wrote don't have an「を」between the noun and ほしがっている.
I could have copied them down from the board incorrectly though or maybe my teacher just
assumed we would understand. Putting the を there makes sense, thanks for correcting me.

>>123

Well is your Japanese teacher a native Japanese speaker by any chance?
Japanese particles are like English prepositions, kind of hard for
native speakers to get them mixed up.

Harold Nicholson wrote: "Every society invents for itself a type, a model, an exemplar,
of what the perfect member of that society ought to be. These heroes and heroines are much
more than the products of existing social and economic conditions: they are myths which
repeat the legends of the past and enhance the dreams of the future. In a materialistic
age it is salutary to remind ourselves of such fictions."

What is the model for Japanese society?

or miss them, I mean.

>>124
No she's not but I don't think she would make that mistake. It's probably just my error.

>>125
Our model is a samurai definitely.
Man with samurai sprit is the most respectable person in Japan.
Acording to Masahiko Hujiwara, who is a famous mathematician, you have to have these following
characters in order to gain samurai spirits.
1 man shouldn't hurt a woman no matter how evil she is
2 one should treat kindly someone who is weak and in lower situation
3 don't hesitate to resort to violence if you see bad people bullying a week person

Please Say Dokdo(tokdo) Instead Takeshima Or Liancourt Rocks!

Though the years have changed, Dokdo is still disputed between South Korea and Japan.
Japan has long insisted on a territorial claim to Dokdo, Korea.
But there are many facts in web sites which indicate this island belongs to Korea.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&...le&start=10

http://www.dokdocorea.com/dokdo.htm

http://www.dokdomuseum.go.kr/en/intro/intro_01_02.html

If I say liancourt rocks instead Dokdo, can you understand it easily?
Many people know Liancourt rocks or Takeshima..
But this island has a name which has been used for a long time, Dokdo.
In French Encyclopedia and Japanese legal statements, they declared that Dokdo is a Korean territory.
However, Japan did not acknowledge this truth and has still insisted that Dokdo belongs to Japan.

South Korea has controlled Dokdo since july 1954 and Two Korean citizens are living in there.
And also there are South Korean police officers who have taken residence for guard duty.

Dokdo is clearly a Korean territory.
Please say Dokdo(Dokto) instead takeshima or liancourt rocks.

>>129
Not Hujiwara but Fujiwara.

Someone's in disguise in disguise in diguise.

Sorry 129.

>>128
Fujiwara, not Hujiwara.

>>129
Do You Know Dokdo? www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSBGVsoSH1c

Dokdo/Takeshima should just be turned into a gunnery range
for the US Navy. We'll name it something festive and have at it with
6-inch shells and cruise missiles.

>>132
mp3 please.

>>134
I can rip the audio and host it for you when I'm done with my finals.

Well, I think I'm just about done studying for my Japanese final and I'm feeling pretty confident.
Of course, I'll be nervous all night and during my homeroom period before the test I'll study my flashcards non-stop for some sort of validating comfort.
Actually, I'm going to look at those damn cards right before I go to bed again.
Wish me luck!

彼は私が寒がっていた時にコートを掛けてくれた。
お父さんは私がほしがっていた自転車を買ってくれた。

I was having a discussion with my friend over irc.
Somehow, we started talking to supernatural creatures.

I think I said something like this:
"Japanese supernatural creatures seem more interesting to me,
but maybe that's just because I grew up reading about western ones."

...I can't remember how he responded, but afterwards the topic drifted
to that of dragons.
An argument occurred over which was better--the eastern dragon, or the
western dragon?
None of us were being serious, though, so please don't be offended.
We were all just being silly, saying things like "the eastern dragon
is better because it's longer" or "you must defeat Shenron to stand a
chance".

>>137
You seem to have had intresting conversation with your friend, though
the topic is a little bit childish.

Well, if I have to express my idea as to which one is stronger,
I'd like to support eastern ones for the time being,
but a myth says that western dragons can breath fire, so eastern ones may
be defeated..!

If you Japanese are free in the afternoon, please watch NHK 高校英語�T on TV.
A western woman appears on the show and her role is reading English sentenses aloud.
Her pronunciation is stunning and aethetic and beautiful
just as her face is beautiful...

lets kick out all the fucking korean niggers from our land.
Koreans are inferior and commit more crimes.

Anti-Japanese policies must function in Korea and China.

we dont have to kick out foreigners from Japan, we just have to deport
illegal aliens back to their countires. I want to welcome foreign friends
who like Japan and can contribute to the development of my country.
I dont think we have to make an anti-korean or anti-chinese policy.

dont be racist, its not healthy.
its actually boring.

>>127

It's not a big deal. Everyone makes errors. I'm an unintentional typo
maker myself.

>>142
We are already doing that, and it is not only the illegals that are troublesome.
I welcome foreign "friends" too, but many unfriendly guys come to Japan and commit crimes.

As a unviersity student, I'm really busy at this time of year.
Because I have to hand in plenty of term papers and have to study for final exams.
Since I don't want to face the stark reality, I think I'll stay up late and surf the net.
I know I'm procrastinating and only hurting myself.
But I'm lazy. Can't help it.

>>137
Western dragons are just lizards with wings. They fly by flapping their wings, which means
they obey physics. Asian dragons totally defy physics and therefore are much more powerful.

I'm not a big fan of mythical creatures but I like unicorns.
They are cute.

>>139
You can watch it on the web.
http://www.nhk.or.jp/kokokoza/tv/eng1/archive/chapter033.html

She must be from UK judging from her accent. She appears in a mini drama
skit at the end of the show.

It's only natural that the British woman speaks with British accent
if she's from UK.

>>109
I see. Thank you for your explanation.

>>149
Are you god...

This is a good tv program! Thank you!

>>149
Oh, I didn't expect I can watch it on the web.
Thank you. And the video is just the same one which I watched before.
Well, her pronunciation is British one ? British English is amazing...

On account of low quality of my pc, I cannot enjoy her beautiful pronunciation fully,
but fortunately freckles on her face seems to be hiden under the rough picture..

>>151
I don't think this is a good TV program.
Its quality isn't very good and the show is kind of dull.
NHK's English learning programs on TV isn't good in general.
Radio programs are better.

If you have taken classes in a preparatory school, you can tell
classes of these professors on NHK English learning shows are
so boring and these professors don't show any signs of improving
their lesson.

Teachers in a prepartory school live in more severe environment where
if their teaching skills aren't good and they are not popular with students,
their contracts with their employers are over. So they are a lot more serious about
improving their teaching skills and they try to entertain their students in each classes.
They live in the situation which is just the opposite end of professors
at any university.

>>153
This isn't a good program, is this?
I am a beginner, I started studying English from last November.
I watched this program a little, this is easy for me to understand,
because the story is told very slowly and only easy words are used.

I want to try NHK radio program, but my house can't get clear sound about AM.

I like Japanology best in NHK TV programs,
its airing time is past midnight, though.

the best or best, which is correct?

The Man I love

robotinkanazawa

keira is dead. give up on her.

Are "like the best" and "like best" interchangeable and
both correct?
I searched on the net a bit and read that best is adjective
so (the) is dispensable. Is this interpretation correct?
If it's correct, is "like best" rigidly more correct?

Oh, sorry best is "adverb".

test post

>>162
You have to try another proxy?

I've seen videos of Westerners on Japanese trains, it's very embarrassing.
I really do wish the Japanese riding the train would be more vocal towards
these annoying people, though.

�Achを愛してる

Wow, it posted >>165 for me, but it didn't work for me when I tried
to post "die 2ch die".
How did it know?

>>163
Shh! It's a secret!

>>160
For the fifth time now I will try to answer this...
Usually you use "the" with "best" to indicate that something is #1 of its type.
It was the best movie I ever saw. It was the best solution to the problem.
You can also use a possessive pronoun to refer to a particular person's best whatever.
Give it your personal best. It was her best novel to date.
There are idioms also.
At best=the most favorable situation
At best we will make a small profit. At best he can type 40 words per minute.
Best wishes! (Good luck! Regards!) related to "Give her my best if you see her." (wishes is
omitted.)
Then there is the little-used verb "best", meaning to defeat.
He was bested by his opponent. (He lost.)

>>164
Are you talking about the gaijin train at Halloween? It's pretty
clear that those people are
1) very drunk
2) idiots

Most people on public transportation here and in London (my only non-US
metro experience) are usually quiet and well behaved, and avoid looking directly
at one another.
Of course, there are always exceptions...

>>163
Thailand just isn't cutting it anymore.

So I'm really happy because my Japanese final was a piece o' cake. I'd be
bold enough to say I got an A on it. I was worried that I'd have trouble
with the free response questions, but I found them easy to write. It was pretty
strange because after awhile I started to have fun when I realized I had learned so much.

>>167
A few times when I've been on the train (in Chicago) there's been a crazy/homeless guy who
wanders through all cars muttering to himself. Kinda scary cause you don't know what such "exceptions"
are capable of. Boy do I miss the trains in Japan with their comfy seats and well circulated interiors.

>>167
They think it's Ok to mess around in the train because they are abroad, and want to make their marks
in order to let Japanese people know how great Halloween parties are just by pulling it off.
They are successful in fostering mutual understanding. They can do anything they want with impunity.
They know how democratic contries should be. You can't be punished as long as you don't do anything illegal.
When they're back, I hope they can do the same thing without getting punished.

>>168
>I'm really happy because my Japanese final was a piece o' cake
Happy for you!
By the way, what kind of questions did you have to answer, I mean, free response questions?

>>154
You can use NHK's stream broadcast online to have a listen to two radio programs -
simple business English and practical business English.
If interested, give it a try!

>>128

So if I went to Japan and learned and diligently practiced the virtues
and ideals which samurai aspired to, people would think I'm a great guy?

>>125
I can't think of anything.
Some people like me don't come up with anything, just living a day to day
life with no one to respect.

Some people respect historic figures, some respect their parents as a role model.
In my case, I have no one I respect. I don't even respect my parents.
Maybe this is off the topic. I'm not sure if I understand what you mean
in >>125.

>>170
It was stuff like: "Describe what is in your room", "If you were to go to
Japan what gifts would you bring?", "Explain the 4th of July to a Japanese person",
"Write an advertisement for a school club", "Write a letter from the point of view
from the story we read in class".
Oh boy, now that I think about it I hope I didn't misread any of the questions (I was trying to go really fast).

>>174
Oops: "Write a letter from the point of view from [a character in] the story we read in class"
The questions themselves were pretty simple so I tried to write more complicated answers with
the grammar I learned this year. Hopefully that will snag me a good amount of points.

>>167
I think mute locals(japanese) to rude foreigners are more exceptional
and clearly idiotic.

Some people who come to Japan all the way from their countries are really
pathetic. They can't cut it in their own countries and find Japan their
last resort, believing that Japan is the easiest place to become someone.
Those people don't realize what their true problems are.

>>166
Oh, thank you very much. You are always kind and nice.

for the fifth time in this thread? sorry to take your time for
the same question.

Now I want to be back to the topic. Thank you for the explanation
but I am still not sure about difference between "I like it the best" and "
I like it best".
Does "I like it the best" connote "it is the best for me"?
Does "I like best" connote "it is one of the best for me"?
more simply "I like it very very much?".

"Duke University is one of the best universities in USA"
It is tralslated literally as デューク大学はアメリカで最も
優れた大学のひとつだ in Japanese.
But actually we won't say like this in Japanese.
最も means the best and the only in general. so
one of 最も〜 will be strange. Some might use 最も〜な の
一つ, but it must be an influence from foreign languages.
Probably I guess
"Duke University is one of the best universities in USA"
is equal to "Duke University is very very good university in USA".

>>172
Of course.
You would not only be even admired especially by adults but also
get high reputation from decent people around you.
This is because we subconsciously expect foreigners are a bit rude in advance.

http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=86035
Difference seems to be very vague and subtle even by
some native speakers.
But I think "the best is #1" principle is still effective and
applicable to most cases.

Japan is not the last resort or something like that.
Because ordinary foreigners don't well in their home doesn't mean they are pathetic.
Probably only korean are bullshitting that things.
And they know they are easy to pretend japanese for no tax living in japan.
That's what korean have been said pathetic people.

>>178
I'm sorry for grumbling, because it wasn't your fault at all.
It took me several tries to find a way to post here.
It's very hard to stay ahead of the 2ch admins; they are quite thorough.

"I like it best" vs. "I like it the best."
These two phrases are equivalent in my mind.
Maybe "I like it the best." emphasizes that it is the best one out of all
possible choices, but really there's no difference in meaning.
I'm trying to think of a sentence where you wouldn't use "the" before "best".
"I think it best that you skip the party tonight." Maybe this is an idiomatic usage;
I'm not sure.
Saying "Duke University is one of the best universities in the USA." is equal to
saying that it is one of the small group of top universities in this country.
It's a little stronger than just saying it's very very good; it implies that is a
member of an elite group.
I hope I am making sense here, and that I'm answering your question.
Is there a way in Japanese of saying that something belongs to a small, elite group?
Maybe you just say it directly (Kyoto University is one of the top universities in Japan.)
and don't bother with the superlative. Would 高い　be appropriate?

>>181

Don't take it personal. I only wrote "some people."

There was a horizontal scrolling shooters game game "Last Resort" and
I used to image secret resort island in my mind. lol
That was false.
Last Resort must have been a typical SF story such as saving the earth
from aliens or riot of too advanced technology.
Just like Famous "Zero Wing" goes....

>>182
一流 (top-notch) would be more appropriate.

>>179

Hah, I hope you aren't joking. Maybe I should study the samurai virtues and code of honor in case I ever
go to Asia. I bet many of those virtues would benefit me no matter where I go.

"Protect the weak and helpless", "never recoil from thine enemy", "be
generous in spirit and pocket"... Those are healthy virtues to live by, I think.

I'm happiest when playing baseball.
This pond is deepest here.

I learned “the” should be omitted in above cases.

>>183
Don't try to get funny.
I know there are some operatives for the left wing.
Actually you mentioned that foreigners coming to japan are pathetic.
Anyway You should stop to say bossily

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfIj3wzx4Ws&feature=related
Here is Last Resort. Unbelievably beautiful grafic considering the time.

>>188

Would you be able to be kind enough to calm down and start
breathing again please sir?

I think Japanese there should have picked him up and thrown
him out of the window of the train! lol
I feel disgusted by the foreigner and lookers-on around him so I wrote Japanese
people in the train was helpless and exceptional too.
I would probably the same in the same situation....

>>186
Plus, please note this;
If enermies start to appologize to you, you should stop attacking and forgive them immediately.

I forgot to introduce this thought.
Well, I hope you will come to Japan with samurai spirit some day!

While you travel abroad, have as much fun as possible, but always
remember that whether you like it or not, you are a de facto
ambassador of your country. Behave, be courteous and respectful
at all times, and for the love of Jesus frigging Christ, do not act up
on trains.

>>190
NO, I DON'T WANT TO. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I'M GETTING LOUD WITH YOU.

I think Japanse people shoud change their mindset.

Treating foreigners like someone special is so uncool.

People from overseas may feel a bit awkward and
uncomfortable when they are treated as special guests
though some people come to live in Japan for a while
for that particular privilege.

It's pretty difficult to change the mindset, because Japan's reletively homogeneous society and its unified education system make Japanese insular.
Japan has been going on like that for hundreds of years and so the mindset is heavily rooted in society.
Unless globalization expands much more drastically, we can't do anything about it.

>>196

With due respect, I know it may be difficult but how about some
"Yes we can" for a change?

>>197

'Shigata ga nai' syndrome. Learn about it.

Last time I checked, Japan is not part of the U.S. and thus there's no need to live up to U.S. standards
randomly. If it really does benefit Japan and Japanese for any specific reason, not just foreign countries
or foreigners, however, it'd be worth modifying the existing values and customs, I think.

globalization is sucks

Maybe this whole Japanse vs non-Japanse thing comes across as nonissue
to most of the people and they don't even bother to make a big deal out
of it after all. I guess I'm in the minority though.

It's better than having nothing to talk about.

Is there nothing to talk about?
How about talking about a money.
I want money.

>>203
I think so , too .
I want to buy TV , computer , and so on .

What tea do you like ?
I like "o-i ocha" the best .

robotinsasebo

http://eatliver.com/i.php?n=3881

Do you define her as a weeaboo?

She looks like this.
http://pds.exblog.jp/logo/1/200807/04/24/b015502420080707114701.jpg

I like either iyemon.

>>198
I checked on 'Shigata ga nai' syndrome. There is a similar viewpoint
in Western society, but I'm sorry to say that its name reflects our
cultural bias: defeatism (accepting "defeat", which can mean actual
defeat or even just acceptance of a hopeless situation).
Does shigata ga nai carry negative connotations in Japan?
I can't speak for others, but in America this viewpoint is pretty unpopular.
Unfortunately, it can lead to situations in which doing something is seen as
better than doing nothing, even if that something is basically a dumb idea.
I would put the war in Iraq as a solution to the so-called "War on Terror" in
that category.

Hey, Beijin!
"Shikata-ga nai" could be your "So it goes" in a sense that Kurt Vonnegut uses it in "Slaughterhouse Five." What do you think?

Japanese media reported that a US commercial airplane made an emergency
landing in Hudson river. The sources said that the engines injested something
in them on taking off and I'm just worried about what was injested is some of the
native English speakers here. Are you guys all right?

>>209
It has been years since I read Slaughterhouse Five.
But seeing as how the protagonist was a survivor
of the fire bombing of Dresden, I think you're probably right.
I remember that it was a pretty cynical book, but that really appealed
to me in my 20s. Similar books that you might enjoy would include
"Cat's Cradle" (also by Vonnegut) or "Catch-22".
Catch-22 is one of my all-time favorite books.

>>210
Double bird strike.
Everyone survived (except the birds).

Perhaps, the birds were toxic and caused a bad diarhea for the plane.

>>213
Nah, just failure of two engines.

>>208
Maybe I'm wrong, but 'Shikata ga nai' can mean something like "That's life."

I think Shikataga nai can be an excuse for doing nothing to improve
your bad situation. But Sikataga nai also can mean a neutral attitude toward something
bad, meaning to face a reality.
Like, take things as they are without focusing too much on negative side of
something you are faced with.

Even plane crashing into WTC was fimed by a New Yorker but I haven't see
any video footages where the plain is doing an emergency landing in Hudson
River. No one didn't record the insident on camera?

>>215
I realize that, but here we always seem to need to do something.
So you hear phrases like "working through your grief" and so on.
Always there's an emphasis on action or response.
Mind you, I'm not saying it's better. It's just the way it is.
(Is that a "shikata ga nai" attitude?)

>>216
The Sept. 11 footage was of the second plane going in. (remember, there were two)
I don't think there is footage of the landing yesterday, but there is footage of the
rescue.

Do Americans think Obama can make a significant change to the situation in Iraq?
As far as I know, his plan that he made as a candidate was to withdraw the US troops in 16 months.
It's been about 6 years since the war began but inconsistent military strategies within the administration
haven't been working effectively to bring about peace or stabilty in Iraq. Do you think Obama and Clinton
can achieve a satisfactory end to it?

>>217
Shikata ga nai is used when something bad, something which
don't work in favor of you happened.

>Is that a "shikata ga nai" attitude?

American's attitude described in >>217 isn't something which don't work
in favor of you, so using shikata ga nai there is a bit awkward.

I'm 219.
Probably "Work in favor of" isn't right there.
I don't use the expression correctly maybe.

What I mean is , nobody is harmed by or offended by or thinks the American
attitude you described (=Always there's an emphasis on action or response) rude,
so using shikata ga nai is a bit awkward.

>>211
"Cat's Cradle" is great. So is "Catch-22".
I believe they were great visionaries.

From a Japanese point of view, the charm of work Vonnegut wrote is his buddhist-like nihilism on things though he was rasied in Indiana, which, I supposed, is filled with Christianity related icons, thoughts, and culture.
As his "So it goes" reflects his nihilism, so does "Shikata-ga nai" a nihilsitic point of view Japanese have, I think.

Oh, by the way, have you watched "Slaughterhouse Five" the movie? It's worth spending two hours.

>>204
I like Jasmine Tea

>>218
Do you remember what we did in Vietnam?
Declared victory and walked away. I bet that's what will happen in Iraq.
I makes me sick to think of the mess we've made there.
It may be satisfactory to our country, but I doubt it will be to the Iraqis.

>>219
I understand. You only use "shikata ga nai" to describe accepting something
bad that you are powerless to change.

>>221
I never have watched the movie. Sounds good, but two hours...wow...
Was Vonnegut actually a nihilist? I think maybe he was a satirist.
Heller (Catch-22) is more of a nihilist.

A humidiator is indispensable in my room, but it also brings about low temperature.
I'm seeking the solution to solve this contradiction.

しかたがない is 仕方　が　無い.
Literally it's that there is no way
how to do it or I don't know the way how to do it.

However we don't image kanji仕方 and the meaning and construction of the pharase
when using and saying 仕方がない.
There is an implication that we have to accept the result after
learing there is nothig to do.　And implication becomes
the real meaning of the pharase. like "it can't be helped".
It's acquired by constant use and hearing in daily life.

>>224
You're in Catch 22 situation.

しょう　が　ない is the same. It came from 仕様しよう　が　無い
(there is no way or choice to handle it).
しよう is usually configured to しょう.
More rough and conversational way is しょう　が　ねえ（なあ).
しょうがねえ is not recommeneded to use to upper people or
unfamiliar people.

しょうが無い's meaning is the samt to しかたが無い.

>>204
I like jasmine and white tea.

>>225
Is it a common phrase?
Maybe some of Bernie Madoff's investors are thinking that right now.

しょう も　ない describes crappy and useless (thing or
incidenct).
Just changing particle changes the meaning.
I don't know why it changes. I learned through repetitions.

Foreigners don't have to learn and use しょう も　ない
cos it's rather colloquial and rough usage.
More colloquial and rought usage will be しょう　も　な
or しょう　も　ねー.

>>228
I guess so. しかたがない implicates some feeling of giving up.
しかたがない can be used to solace someone who faliled something
too.
Like しかたない　よ。

But I don't know whether Bernie Madoff's investors can easily accept the
result and give up.
They might be able to sue him and bring back money.

i wish they unban my ISP

Chesley Sullenberger will be a new American hero!
I hope he is not jewish.
Chesley Sullenberger will kick out Obama and be your new
President four years later.
White must be your Hero.

>>232
good morning !

I love this short story, "Harrison Bergeron" by Kurt Vonnegut: ttp://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html

I finally finished all my finals today!

>>218

I'm more concerned with improving Iraq's current condition than getting American
troops out of there. They volunteered for it, but many Iraqis are now without
electricity and water. However, many Iraqis may just want the troops to get the
hell out at this point.

I think Obama said some things in order to get elected even if it isn't morally
right. The voters are the illiberal citizens of the U.S. after all.

It's unbelievable
for poor americans to go to Iraq for money by even risking their life.
You all have to respect their courage.

Some American people are in denial and don't even denounce the decision
of the Bush administration to start the war on Iraq. Whatever lies in
their conscious or subconscious mind, to me it appears to me almost like
faith in a cult.

Mind you, it's not a matter of faith in cult religion. I'm saying those
people just turn a deaf ear on whatever you say.

>>235
I wish your grades are all A.

Even Bush himself regrets his decision and
wishes the false information brought by his subordinates would
have been another one.
Time is changing, ardent Bush and Iraq war supporters must be
deminishing. Enthusiastic Bush fever is still imprinted in
your mind.

Decline of Bush supporters clearly shows some can change their attitudes.

324
good morning ^^

wait a minute

it is 16:04 here in Louisiana

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>231
What money? It's gone baby gone.

>>233
He is a brave man and a remarkable pilot.

>>235
Congratulations on being done with finals. I hope you did well.
Interesting story, "Harrison Bergeron".
Joe: You know, Blow, I wish I were more like you.
Blow: But you can be! You can be anything you want to be!
Joe: That's great! Because I always wanted to be as tall as you.

>>242
I thought money gone by fraud can be retrieved somehow
by trial.
Inverstors invested relying on false performance record.

>>240
Yes it would have been so much better for all of us if Saddam Hussein
had actually had WMDs. Because then we would have been justified in going
into Iraq.
That's essentially what President Bush said in his press conference.
Whatever happened to the Republican belief in personal responsibility?
Only applies to poor urban blacks I guess.
Grrrr....

When you say onomatopoeia Grrr, You don't actually sound G,
do you?

>>216
WTC-attack was recorded by several camera because that was set up by US govornment.
They had needed scene of airplane-attack for letting people know and convince all over the world that there was terror by islamic fundamentalist.
At that time, US government=zionist needed reason for invasion of Iraq.
They had known there was plane attack so that several people recorded that scean.

>>246

Maybe the Japanese government planned the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki too...

>>246

There you go.

The Japanese government didn't planned the bombing of the two places.
The government should have wised up to see the reality before things got worse.

↑Not 246
>>247

>>246
I guess you'd need more evidential facts to back that up, wouldn't you?

>>247
Don't blame Japanese government of the atomic bombing of Hirosima and Nagasaki.
President Roosevelt hadn't done nothing he had even known Pearl Harbor would be attacked.
Bush and Roosevelt are the one who had killed American people and Japanese people, not Japanese.

A lot of American people believe in the wrong statement that there were
a devastatingly many casualties in US army and Japanese natives if the atomic bombs
were not thrown over the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

This destruction with atomic boms is somehow similar to the presently continueing
massacre by Israel army against Palestinian in Gaza city.

Why must vast numbers of Palestinians be killed, though rocket missile by Hamas killed
a twelve or so numbers of Israeli? It is true that November 11 and perl harbor cases
is tradegies, but I think retaliation of aftermath are more than the extent to be permittied.

I guess >>247 is just a cynicism to >>246 and no real intention.

Anyway I am just amazed we have a brilliant japanese here.
I think a man with that kind of notion is rare and less.
I don't support that conspiracy theory but Americans should remember
U.S was attacked by its long and huge supports for Israel. America is not hated
for being America. America is hated for the ally of Israel.

Famous Canadian conspiracy theorist, Benjamin Fullford lives in
Japan. He has japanese name and japanese citizenship now.

His support for mirror man uekusa is odd.
Benjamin claims that uekusa was framed for his criticism to takenaka heizo,
his rival economist who was a government memmer at that time.
Uekusa was arrested for peeping a school girl's panty with a hand mirror
on a train station escalater or stairs.
Later he was arrested again for groping a high school girl on the train.

>>223
>>236
Thanks for your honest opinions.
If what will happen in Iraq is a similar case to Vietnam, then a true nightmere for the locals may follow
as well; for the next decade, the ravages of war would extend to a broader region involving various religious
sects and ethnics in the Middle East, just as what happened in Indochina. And what's worse there, they do
have oil and gas reserves that the rest of the world is still interested in, not to mention Iran and Syria
which the US has already been considering as the next possible targets, and Isreal and the Palestines.
I'm not quite sure a withdrawal plan without implementing stable and sound policies would be the best choice now.
Please note that I was not talking about the moralistic side of the issue but just inquiring some realistic
visions that the new US President could hold. And sorry for my long and boring post to those uninterested in this.

>>254

If I recall correctly, the reason why fighting took place all over Indochina was because the french colonialists
did not recognize any sovereign nations existing there. The U.S. forces would never dare to send patrols outside the
borders of Iraq because they respect those country's sovereignty.

If the U.S. has been trying for years now to build up a national defense force for Iraq with soldiers comprised primarily
of Iraqis. This has been met with mixed success, but it is not enough to defend the country against the hordes of radical
Infidel murdering jihadists which have been streaming in to Iraq from all over the Middle East. It's just a bad situation -
a quagmire. If Obama is serious about removing the U.S. forces and leaving the country without a proper national defense
then it might just make things worse. I'd had to see another country like Afghanistan before the invasion where they would
publicly murder women for minor offenses such as not properly concealing their faces.

Definitely macho dragon is the strongest!

>>255
Thank you again.
>The U.S. forces would never dare to send patrols outside the
>borders of Iraq because they respect those country's sovereignty.

I tend to agree that the US forces themselves wouldn't cover the war theaters outside Iraq,
because it just totally contradicts Obama's promise now. But with the absence of a large number of
US soldiers, there's a good possibility that some would be encouraged to start a new fire outside Iraq.
Would that be a possible reason for the US to call for another course of military intervention, do you think?
Or public opinion among Americans won't allow another war in the region?

It seems that now That goverment would be fighting for the interest.
The WAR produces benefits for nation won though does many victims. Goverment doesn't care about them at all, just care about how cope with bad reputations.

Because of worldwide depression, That goverment would stand for the Israel and provide them weapons to earn money.

>>258
I think you are writing the wrong thing.
The reason why Israel began attack against Palestinian in Gaza city
is that president are to change in January 20.
I think that Obama does not approve of Israel as much as Bush.

Don't underestimate jewish power in America.

Yes, We can't!

I laughed. But it that joke understood in America?
cos it's gramatically incorrect.

I learned yes follows with can and no follows with can't.
Can it be transformed like Yes, (as you said) we can't! in American's mind?
I want to ask native English speakers here.

Why does the U.S. interferes in world affairs so much?
I heard that U.S. once embraced isolationism.
Since when, and why has isolationism been abandoned?

Maybe from democrat Roosevelt era.
Mass was against the involment with WW2. But Administrations and
jewish americans wanted to do cos jews in Europe was in helpless
situaiton.
Pearl Harbor attack became an good excuse and oppotunity to
be involved with the world war.

Then Cold War followed and America continued to be super power
all over the world.
Americans seem to find their role as world police man in fighting against terrorism
in today's politics instead of communism.
But american supports to israel is seedbed for terrorism.

By the way Israel killed thousands of palestinians and declared
de facto victory in the meantime.
But thousands of death toll will breed hatred and future mosad or hamas.
It's endless story.

I'm AFRAID YOU THINK IT'S RUDE I SAY THINGS LIKE THIS,
WHEN YOU HAVE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WHAT LANGUAGE DO YOU SAY?

............

First term of center examination finished.
Today's subjects were geography, Japanese, and English.
I could do well as a relative though total score is lower than that of last year.
But I can't take a rest sincerely because this test continues until tomorrow.
I have to prepare for it.

>>268
I hope you will pass the exam.

>>269
...Thank you very very much ;;

>>268
I'm crossing my fingers for you.

>>263
It dates back to 1947 when the "Truman Doctrine" was proclaimed for shaping US foreign policy
to fight Third World countries of any ideological, economic and militarily threat to America under the pretext
of freedom and democracy. It is by no means any sort of conspiracy theory based upon delusional assumptions,
but a legitimate framework recorded on official documents. And it's been carried out all over the world since then.
However, don't forget to take into consideration that Japan is one of the nations that have been enjoying
the more or less benefits of it, as well.

Whatever it takes, let someone shoot your back first.
Then you can nuke them later as much as you want.
It's their problem. Not yours. You can sleep well.

Nuclear weapons are no longer pracitical in use. All you can do is bluff with them.

>>272

I recall the Truman Doctrine being something entirely different from what said.

Basically, the U.S. deviated from isolationism because it wanted to create colonies
all over the world so it could create new markets and boost its economy. One of the
results from that was the Philippine-American War.

The U.S. started intervening in world affairs after WW2 in order to stop the spread
of communism. It was believed that communism was fucking more evil than Satan himself
so anywhere Communism spread, the U.S. was sure to follow. During that time, the term
"world police" was coined, I believe. It has stuck with us ever since because people
still seem to believe that the U.S. needs to self-sacrifice (in trillions of dollars
of expenditures...) in order to spread democracy.

>>257

People have been disillusioned from American ideals which have persevered for the past
century (at this point) and I don't think they would allow the next President to
"deceive" them into fighting another war (in which the country itself isn't threatened).

btw, It wasn't only the American voter who was supposedly tricked into supporting the Iraq war...
Colin Powell also convinced the U.N. to support it was well.

Kart Vonnegut seems to be Dutch American by judgeing from his
name.
Vonnegut is similar to (A・E・Van) Vogt(Dutch American).
The name was unfamiliar and impressive so
I just got curious about Vogt's background and his background stayed
in my head.
I only read "The Voyage of the Space Beagle", which is simple and fun.
Since I am informed in advance that his novels got more esoteric and profound,
I kept off from his other works.

Now I learned he is Dutch "Canadian". We tend to
make a mistake that every white person in the north
America is American. And Vonnegut is not dutch but German (American).

I think I decided to read some Kart Vonnegut' short stories.
I have a plenty of time so I can if I will...

Copy rights of some of his books seem to expire. If I could find
recored mp3 of his book, it would be fine.
Searching on the site of VOA american stories, I couldn't find his
works.

If you want to see video of the plane landing in the Hudson,
here's one from the CNN site:
ttp://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/17/usair.splash.video/index.html
It comes from a surveillance camera, and there's no sound.

>>278
Wow! Thanks. I didn't expected to see the footage. No one didn't film the
moment it crash landed but the surveillance cameras did!

I read an article of a Japanese newspaper of my region that its speed was 200km/h or
125mph upon landing. The splashes are bigger than I thought because I read a
passenger's comment saying it was a smooth and soft landing and
some passengers say they didn't even recignize it landed in water.

>>277
Amazon.jp has "Welcome to the Monkey House" (in English books), a
collection of Kurt Vonnegut's short stories.
￥ 1,598 (Tax Included) & free shipping
about $17 USD--a little pricey, but it probably is an import

Korean guys are amazingly popular this year as we were last year.
Hundai will recieve the first prize for making impressive cars in America, which means finally most American admit Korean cars
overphelmed American people, and it shows how much American people are in awe to Korean people. No wonder American girls started to pay more
attention to Korean guys. America can't live without Korea.
I'm proud of it. :)

>>281

Korean seizure has struck you.

According to a survey, white girls are interested in Korean guys physique.
They have this image of Korean guys being masculine, well-trained, and sexy.
And they are correct in thinking so. Korean guys surelly are sexy.
No one can deny the fact. You can see how enthusiastic white girls are about Korean guys on the Internet
by looking at Youtube. White girls leave a lot of comments of how they love Korean guys.
I'm proud of it. :)

>>283
You behave when this thread is busy, joining conversation without
showing any signs that you are the Korean propaganda guy.

When this thread becomes relatively slow, you can't resist the itch and
you remember your role you impose yourself on: Promoting Korea.

>>284
I have no idea what you're talking about.
This is the first time I've posted here this year.

Let's get back. I know Jap girls are also mesmerised with Korean guys.
The news says that Jap girls pays a visit to Korea now, and I think, they're looking for Korean boyfriends.
I don't know why Korean guys are this popular all around the world even though Korean guys are really sexy.
Hmm, wait.. Girls all around the world love Korean-like stuff.. Sushi, Karaoke, Kimchi, and Korean guys!
I'm proud of it. :)

Different people have their own ways of enjoying this thread so
I don't blame you. >>283.

I wonder what made jook apart from this thread. It's not ISP bloking thing.
Chances are after he enjoyed the New Year holidays somewhere with his
family or friends, he came to senses that joining this thread is
just a waste of time. He studied Japanese, is interested in Japan's culture,
which are two of the most important factors that keep native English
speakers staying in this thread.

Even if he has the two factors, he's gone now, although he stayed relatively
long here, maybe two months or so? Oh, I remeber one more factor that's crucial
that makes you stay here. That's you have to be a student. Once you
join workforce, there's no time to wasting time here.

Crystal has a good factor, too, which is she likes teaching English
for ESL students. So communicating with Japanese English learners
here must have fun but she's gone now. Hope in any given time period,
there's always one or more native English speakers here. Cheers to
native English speakers here.

>>285
whatever.

>>286
Who is jook?
Let me take a wild guess..

This jook guy probably changed his preferences for different cultures,
and now is hooked on Korean culture. The guy will be converted in a certain way.
But you shouldn't blame him. Many people all around the world know this year is the year for Korea!
Naturally, they get interested in Korean culture. I hope they enjoy Karaoke.

>>288
jook is a university student who frequented here AS YOU KNOW.

Ok.

For some reason, I don't think I talked with him. Actually, I only remember who I talked with most of the time when I'm here is 名無しさん＠英語勉強中.
Did he talk to me? Maybe I missed his reply to me. Ahh, I'm awfully sorry if he was interested in/wanted to talk about Korea.
Anyway, I hope he enjoys talking with Korean people somewhere on the Internet.

Let's talk again about how impressive Korean guys are.

trolls, trolls, and trolls.... stay gone forever

>>285
Did you know the guy from Tornoto, Canada said
the comeplete other way around from what yous say.
He said every korean around him was single or dating only with
asian girls.
Do you think he was mad or pretty isolated from mainstream culture?

>>290
If you're Won Bin, I think you have a pretty good case.
If you're So Ji-sub, I'd have to go with a Japanese guy.

Which do you like better, American girls or Canadian girls?

Even young hosaka naoki is better. lol

How about Sumitani Masaki?

I watched some videos of survivors of the plane crash-landing in
Hudson River. I noticed that they are all white. To think the
population ratio of US, one in five or four has to be an African
American, but interviewd or invited survivors to TVstation's studio
are all White.

Does that mean taking a plane is an expensive way of transportation
and African American can't afford it or African Americans don't do a
job where they have to go on a business trip on plane?

I found another video showing the moment of crash-landing from
a different angle besides　米人's.

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-183256?ref=feeds/newsiest

At 2:02 the plane "landed" on the water.

Teacher said that that that that that boy used in the sentence was wrong.

Hey everyone, I leave for D.C. early tomorrow and I'll be back in 5 days or so.
Don't have too much fun without me!

It's more difficult for me to write and speak in English than to read and listen.
How can I gain the skill writing and speaking in Einglish in Japan?

Don't worry, Jack.

>>298
Teacher said that that that that that boy used in the sentence was wrong.
先生は、あの少年が文の中で使っている、あのthatは間違っていると言った。

Teacher said that that that that that that that that boy referred to was supposed to indicate,
was out of place in the sentence.

>>301
Hey, How do you know my name?

Ahh, I really love Kurt Vonnegut! He's one of my favorite authors of all time!
Apart from Slaughterhouse Five and Cat's Cradle, I would reccommend "The Sirens
of Titan" and "Galapagos". "Man Without A Country" is good, too, but very short.

>>299
Oh, Enjoy your trip! If you have a chance, please meet Mr.Obama and get an autograph there. If you do it successfully, we would know what kind of person you are via TV.^^)/

Let's clean up all obstacles ahead of you ♪

>>299
You are going there to see Obama's inaugulation speech, are you.

>>298
Regrettably, I think that that "that that that that that" that >>302 used
is perfectly correct English.
Myself, I try to avoid the "that that" construction, because I think it sounds
awkward and looks even worse.

My son's 8th grade (the whole grade) had a chance to go to the Inauguration,
but my son chose not to go (he doesn't like crowds).
So he is stuck going to school on Tuesday and Wednesday, where they
will be having "fun activities" (according to the teachers),
and which he refers to as "lame little weird activities".
Serves him right for skipping out on a historic moment.

>>296

Your ratio is too high. African Americans only make
up close to one eighth of the population. As a result,
you shouldn't expect a black person present in every
American incident.

>>308
Really?
He may be too young to recognize how valuable to go to the inaugulation.
Umm, but, I feel very envy for the situation in which your son is; he can meet Mr.Obama if he wish.
I can't believe it.
Well, with respect to the inaugulation, didn't you have a chance to attend it ?

>>308

He is a child so he probably does not realize how important an event like that is. Maybe he
would be thankful to you later if you forced him to go.

>>310 >>311
It's too late now, but the trip wasn't cheap ($700), so we decided
not to force him to go if he was going to just complain about it.
Washington is going to be a mob scene on Tuesday. It's highly, highly
unlikely that anyone from our town will even get close to Barack Obama.

He missed the chance to see a scene of assasination right in front
of his eyes? $700 is worth it.

>>313
Shame on you.

I didn't vote for Obama, the media practically sucked his cock
the entire way to the election.

It's kind of true that the American media treated him like Messiah even though he's a pretty unexperienced
politician. But that's quite reasonable, considering what Mr. Bush has done to the world and his nation.
Ms. Rice said about Mr. Bush, however;
"I think generations pretty soon are going to start to thank this president for what he's done. This generation will,"
Is this really going to happen?

It's freezing outside. This is the moment when I feel the greatest about
being neet. I don't have to go out. Yahoooo!!!!

Well 2ch, thanks to you I have decided to take an English grammar class this semester.
I have been told that it's one of my university's hardest courses. So wish me luck.

>>317
I'm kind of neet too but I get paid about 500 dollar a month.
Do you never even try to get a job?

>>318
good luck.

>>318
Thanks to us? What do you mean? You became motivated to learn grammar
to teach it to non-native English speakers?

My understanding is that you don't have to learn English grammar as long as English is your
mother tongue. Without the knowledge about the grammar, you are fluent in
English.

>>319
I don't want to work now. I have some saving.

John Brown is hanging from a tree!

>>319
Who pays you for what?

>>296
No, at least I've seen two japanese survivors on TV.

>>321
well more so that I saw you guys using these english grammar terms which I had never heard of before. so I started to look them up. I found it kinda interesting, so then I decided to sign up for a class to learn more.

John Brown is hanging from a tree!

I made my own religion and declared myself a pope.
You must worship me and convert yourself into my religion.

You misspelled "poop."

>>182
Sorry for the late reply.
Thank you. I got a big picture.

>>325
Anyway, good luck.

I thought firestar was a native English speaker... is he not?

japs and crackers are playing around here
both of them are losers.

>>331
If I'm not wrong, he is.

>>332
Are you white?
Or negro crack head?

yes I am a native speaker.
I live in the USA

>>335
Oh! you live in the USA. Which part?
I live in Nagoya.
Nice to meet you:)

I live in ngjksdlbskbgfhdlabhflabfl.
You know where it is?

niggerjewkikesandniggerdogeatingloonblacksexoffenderkorean
blackgookfuck
I forgot the nexts. Please let me know.

Japs chinks and gooks are all racist
They hate black people so I have a right to be racist agaist them also

日本人は黒人が嫌いです

>>336
PA

>>341
fuck off cracker
You crackers enslaved my people
dont forget that.

日本人は黒人が嫌いです

Don't worry.
More than two-theirds Japanese people are arrogant and celf-centred by nature.

>>344
where did you get such a number and let me know how you define
arrogant and self-centered.

you must be quite intellectual if you can actually substantiate it.

>>345
My definition of arrogant or self-centred person is one who hurts a person in a lower position
to satisfy himself or one who don't do nothing other than to pursue what is beneficial for him.
I estiimated this percentage by considering people around me and 2ch.

>>342
you mean quacker?
and i am not a quacker.....

>>312
Japanese media said that a ticket to participate the event is sold as much as around 30000$ illegally nowlol
You should go to the inaugulation instead of him!

ギリギリクンのチン毛が剃りテー

オッス、オッス！！

robotinhachinohe

robotinkocyocyolina

>>342

My ancestors never owned any slaves. Looks like I'm off the hook!

My mother came back from a hospital where she was in for a week.
From the moment of entering to our house, she began to complain about trivial things, like
“why didn't you put a room in order?”“I feel like vomitting because of these thick volume of forms! ”
So, I felt very irritated.
What I got interested the most was that our two tamed cats seemed to unaware of who she was for the fisrt 5 minutes and tried to hide themselves into
kotatsu and closet.

I dreamed a dream in which I dreamed to built a dream land.

>>342
I can tell you're a high-ranked member of The Nation of Islam.
Do you think you can defeat Mr. Korea the Perfect in this thread?
He's the strongest and sexiest badass ever. So if you can beat him, you'll be the king of the thread.

>>339
Are you Black?
Hail African American here!

I respect Black Panther!
Tom Mezger approve Black Panther and Obama!
His logic is worse is better!

>>341
I'm sorry, but I don't know it.
Would you tell me a spell of PA in full?

>>352
Are you German American or something?

>>357 Pennsylvania

im japanese girl. do you guys have some questions?
about japan or something.

>>360
Are you HITOMI?

im not Hitomi. why?

>>357
http://www.add7.net/newyork/states.htm

PA stands for ****.

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=eo50qIm8BOM&feature=related
>>362

>>358
Yes!

>>359, >>363
Oh, I see. Thanks a lot!
I supposed that PA meant a parking area.
I live in NA.
NA is the beginning and final alphabet of Nagoya!

>>365
Oh, I admire you. German America is justice.

>>366
Uwahahaha. He must be a white trash living in a trailer house on
a parking lot!

>>367

Would your opinion change if I told you that I'm also part Native American?
I have dark hair, dark eyes. People say I have "Asian" hair. I'm quite white
though.

dark eyes sounds like evil eyes to me.
Why don't you say that it's black eyes?
Although black could give a racial overtones.

No. Dark hair and blue eyes are perfect match.
Remember the man with dark hair and piercing blue eyes...
and a toothbrush moustache.
I don't think dark hair and brown eyes will make you non-white.
You are as white as Reichsfuhrer and Jacque Pluss.

>>360

How's the weather in Japan now?

test

What I got interested the most was that our two tamed cats seemed to unaware of who she was for the fisrt 5 minutes and tried to hide themselves into
kotatsu and closet.

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Hmmm. It's cute and makes me smile :)
I used a western emoticon for the first time..

>>374
From where did you copy and paste the sentense?

I can see Barack Obama starts his very first
speech with "We can ...". Then I can feel something above Obama...
Something is falling to Obama!! Please sway successfully like Mr.Bush did!!!!

Something hit on Obama's head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was a basin! "change..." Mr.Obama fell forward.

In chicago Tribune website, there's an article about Japanese Obama. LOL
I have seen him on the street in my city when he was dressed in a costume
for a local TV program. That was long before Obama was in the spotlight
as a candidate of US president.

Anyway this is the link to the article and a link to a youtube videos.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/lifestyle/chi-japanese-obama-1028oct28,0,210636.story?obref=outbrain

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=bmHlDlB50Wk&feature=related

As a Japanese I think he looks like Obama, but the article affirms
he doesn't look like Obama much, saying he looks like Agian.

I thought this defference about how he looks like Obama is interesting.

>>377
Especially, content of the first video was terrible.
It indicates how hard for him to succeed as a comedian, I think.
btw, where's your city?

Lol I don't think he looks at all like Obama.

>>380
and I think real Obama is more handsome

>>379
I think it's just that a reporter of Chicago Tribune asked him to
recite phrases from Obama's speech so it's natural there's no comedy
factors in the first video. As for me, just seeing him impersonating
Obama is a lot of fun, though. I live in *********.

>>380
Maybe how we look at him and identify and recognize his face is defferent between us
Asians and you westerners. I think most Japanese agree that the
comedian looks like Obama.

>>382
Even if he was just reciting Obama's speech, that type of thing can be classified as
a comedy.
He would cry out if he knew what he does isn't accepted as a joke.
I think imitating Obama is a good idea, and I sometimes laugh out to see his comedy, though.

But one thing I'm not sure is that Obama really thought
the Japanese comedian, if only a little, looks like him.
Seems like Obama just thought his name is Obama too.

>>366
oh I am sorry, I guess I should have spelled it out. I was not thinking.
But yes, it does stand for Pennsylvania.

I've been reading this book for about two weeks now diligently and I am
only to about page 50. It takes me up to 30 minutes to get through just
one page at times because the author uses such a convoluted myriad of
vocabulary which the average person never uses. In other words, I spend
so much time each page just looking up words in the dictionary or looking
up something the author is referencing to in the encyclopedia. I'm sure
my vocabulary is going to increase tremendously by the time I finish this
book, but it is a little tedious having to look things up so often. This isn't
a book meant for serious academics and English masters.

What book is that?

It is very interesting if someone would throw shoe at Obama in his speech.
The one could be a real hero like a Iraqi journalist all over the world.

But at this time, we cannot tell whether Obama is a good guy or not.
So I think it's premature to throw a shoe at him.

>>388
At the same time, the person would make great number of enermy, unlike the case of the Iraqi journalist..

>>390
wtf r u talkin'bout?

>>391
in short, Obama has so many proponents
that many people would hate the thrower

>>388
Ah, I see that a member of the Republican party has joined us.
Please, no sour grapes. Your party had its chance.

Today is a very exciting day for us here in the US of A. I have
to get out and do my shopping early so I can catch the festivities
on TV. They start at 11:30 am EST. Which is 1:30 am for you;
I guess you'll be seeing the clips tomorrow on the morning newscasts.

John Brown and Leo Frank(pedophile and murderer) are hanging from a tree!

>>386
You bought the book you first thought interesting, right?
If it's too difficult, just throw it away or give it to a goat.

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/80455846.jpg
I think this man looks like Obama. But it must be no surprise
because he is Black and uglier.

I have thought that noccci is one of the unfunniest comedians in Japan.
Although Nochi has no talent for comedian, he is a good natured man.
Therefore he is O.K. I think Obama thing was a good opportunity for
poor comedian.
The effect of Obama's economic stimilus packages is not certain.
But Nochi is absolutely an individual and living exapmle to benefit from
Obama.

http://blog.obakeland.net/images/ph001.jpg
http://ca.c.yimg.jp/annex/1193903217/netallica.yahoo.co.jp/images/content/-/8235.jpg
Nochi looks more like tsumabuki satoshi.
Tsumabuki has ordinary face and uncomparable popularity.

Nocchi isn't an exceptional comedian but he's a so-so comedian.
I personally like him.

I like his phrasem ”相方をchange."

I think his signature gag is to recieve cold reaction from
audiences no matter how hard he tries.
In japanese it's called 滑る.
Miserable and comical reaction of nochi make us laugh.
Unfunniness is also weapon of comedian.

I don't know how 滑る is translated in English.

His gag failed the audience.
How about this?

>>399
It looks like an idiomatic usage.
According to the on line dictionary:
"ぬめる" can mean either to be slippery or slimy, or to act charmingly
"すべる" can mean to glide or slip, or to fail (a test)

Yesterday (Monday) about a hundred people got together and threw
shoes at the White House in protest. Tourists also joined in.
After the crowd was done, they serenaded the outgoing President Bush
with "Hey Hey Hey Goodbye". Only one man was arrested.

滑る originally means slip.
It can be used in the situation a story doesn't get good
reaction when it was meant to be interesting by a story teller.

I think Obama gets the highest support rate on the day of inauguration.
He will gradually lose supports as days go by.
In the end, he'll be remebered as a run-of-the-mill president except
that he's the first African American.

Being elected as an African American alone is significant and made
a big splash but he won't be remebered by later generations as a
president with sperb leadership and his exceptional capability.
Just mumbling of an ordinary Japanese citizen...

>>399
fall flat can mean it, I think

>>401
I know Japanese. I was curious how English speakers express
滑る in the case of that situation in English.

"Hey Hey Hey Goodbye"
It reminds me of WWE farewell chants. Most foreigners here seem
to think Prowrestling silly and not wroth watching though.
I love silliness.

>>404
I agree. That is also the case. Thank you.

Does "fall flat on" implie teller's embarrased and ashamed situation?
滑る implies such feelings.

ぬめる　or to act charmingly
I guess this usage is pretty old old usage, probably back to edo era.

Where can I see obama's inauguration speech live online?
show me some links. I'm superior to you so you guys should search for the
links for me.

He was inaugurated as new devil in Hell.

>>408
give me moritapo or search for it all by yourself

>>410
Moritapo is a sort of web money used in 2ch right?
You doesn't seem to use it.

>>406
fall flat would be it.
http://www.npr.org/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/obama_inauguration/7837927.stm
but he just took the oath! It was short!

>>408

http://edition.cnn.com/video/fb/facebook.html?stream=stream4

>>408
Synopsis of Obama's speech.
"I have a dream. We can change! Do what you can do for your country!
a government of the people, by the people, and for the people! period"

>>411
but nothing appears to be worth receiving other than moritapo here
and I sometimes use it when using special searches on 2ch

Obama said "change" and became changeman.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=HAbtJegD_6Y

I haven't been able to post here, because comcast is blocked, and I can't find any working proxies...

I'm only able to post now because I'm at school.

Obama started to sing this tune.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=2P7zp9ykwl8

EDWARDS F@CKED UP THE LINE - OBAMA STOPPED BECAUSE HE KNEW THEY WERE WRONG.

>>417
By the way, accessing from school is one of the effective solutions.
Nice idea.
Let's thank for the rich cyber emvironment!

>>412
Thanks for the links. I'll give you hugs and kisses.
Funny thing is NPR and BBC's broadcat isn't synched.
BBC is seconds bihind NPR's


>>413
Thanks you. I thought CNN's website is the first place to visit.
You did a good job. I shall give you "knight" for your contribution.

Seems like you need to access to the site via proxy server because
Only American listen to it.

>>412
Thanks for the links. I'll give you hugs and kisses.
Funny thing is NPR and BBC's broadcat isn't synched.
BBC is seconds bihind NPR's


>>413
Thanks you. I thought CNN's website is the first place to visit.
You did a good job. I shall give you "knight" for your contribution.

Seems like you need to access to the site via proxy server because
Only American listen to it.

hi guys

Any person has a right to refuse one's suggestions.

>>417
go here and do what it says...
ok?

Oops, forgot to add the link
http://4chan.b33r.net/sparky4/+4/index.htm

>>415
It's ridiculous to pay money to 2ch even if you had to find something
important by searching in 2ch.

>>414
That's a combination of Martin Nigger Luther king Jr. and
JFK, Lincoln and Omaba himself.

>>417
米人　and アメリカ人　access 2ch through proxy. You can find some
effective proxy, I guess.

i should refuse ur seggestions...

>>427
Ha ha, now that proxy site is temporarily down...
I'm sure an unlucky fellow.

>>417
Refer to >>426.

The link in 426 leads you to the top page of the image board (although
URLs are the same.)
You need to choose and click on "Ask sparky4" in the list then you can read
what　米人　says.

>>427
I never paid any money to 2ch.
It's the last thing you should do.I have obtained mori by answering questions.

>>417
Not ok.
Darn, I did post something, but it disappeared.
Maybe Sparky is mad at me.
Okay, go to the link and select "Ask Sparky 4"
Scroll down to the message "banned on 2ch"
Do what it says, except go with #6 and not #5 on the list.

>>432
Your post is still there, if you're talking about the post No.327.

Obama's speech was great

I have a question.

Hair of Obama's wife and daughters are straight. it even sways in the
wind. I think they have their hair straightened. What do you think?
If I'm not wrong, only wealthy African American can afford to doing so.

If they have their hair straightened, is that considred that they abondon
African American's virtue among African American's community?

>>433
Now I see it, but I didn't see it before. Strange.

>>431
>I have obtained mori by answering questions.

How does that work? You're talking about other boards in 2ch.
I answer lots of questions in 2ch's English board but never
gets mori.

>>435
I don't know if the Michelle Obama gets her hair straightened, but
I naturally have absolutely straight hair (not a single curl anywhere),
and I've gotten perms to make it look curly. Actually, I ended up looking
like some kind of hobbit, so I don't do that anymore, but my point is that
women are always messing around with and changing their hair and I wouldn't
read too much into it.
Plastic surgery to change your features (as Michael Jackson has done)
is perhaps a little more suspect, although as that too becomes more
popular, it becomes more acceptable as well.

>>427
I'm just happy to know white nationalist(the last sane
american) is here.
Why did you stop talking about your ideology of racial realism?

By the way I've heard "Martian Luther Koon"

Where can I see obama's inauguration speech live online?
show me some links. I'm superior to you so you guys should search for the
links for me.
-------------------
???? Is this a post of American? It's funny americans ask question
here..

A condemned man is being led into the execution chamber. The condemned prisoner points to the electric chair and asks the prison warden:
"Are you quite sure this thing's safe?"

Author and playwright Oscar Wilde was destitute and living in a cheap boarding house when he found himself on his deathbed. His reputed last words were:
"My wallpaper and I are fighting a duel to the death; one or the other of us has got to go."

One white nationalist was British.
Disappearance of white nationalist coincides with
both disappearance of イギリス人 and appearance of a korean supremacist.
Each never spoke each other.

Everything was solved.
イギリス人=white nationalist=korean supremacist.

>>438
Isn't it natural to think she gets her hair straightened to think
her skin is such dark. And their kids.

The woman below is a very popular singer in Japan and either her mother or father
is African American. She looks she has natural wavy hair now but
when her photo as a baby was shown on one TV show, she had extremely
frizzy hair in the photo.

http://www.sankei.co.jp/enak/2008/may/jpeg/23musicTerma.jpg

Hobbit?
http://childoftwentyfive.blogsome.com/wp-admin/images/thumb-hobbit.jpg

>>439
I'm Japanese as >>440 guessed right.

black kinky hair and white curly hair are different thing.
http://www.uefa.com/ml/images/players/ucl/220X220/47551.jpg
Look at this albino.
He is suitable for Hollywood serial killer.
I assume Netherland is rich in curly hair. Am I wrong?

>>441
What's funny about the second joke?

>>444
Why do you use derogatory term like nigger?
No special intent?

>>447

>>447
Just for the fun of it. No morem, no less.

....
>>427
I was refering to >>427. I may have mixed up anonymouses.
I assumed >>426 wrote >>408. If they are different person each, >>426
must be a foreigner.

You are good English speaker.
I suppose you are a usual korean, who is anonymous right now.

>>450
Are you new here? Everybody here knows 米人 is a real American.
Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s and ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc is American, too.

Some people with a handle name are native speakers of English.
>>442 uses a handle name but he is Japanese, I think.

>>452
I know all anonymous writings are not by one person. LOL
I just assumed >>426 = >>408 and >>426 is a native English speaker.
Cos I didn't expect Japanese to use a word like nigger.

Woops sorry, now I understand what you are saying.
>>426 = >>408 and >>427... I wrote the wrong number.
I know 米人 is bostonian and never likely to say term like that
in public including internet.

The last correction!!!
>>408 and >>427...
I'll go to hang myself..

>>408 = >>427
Minor correction. I'm in heaven right now.

>>408 and >>427 is me.

>I know 米人 is bostonian and never likely to say term like that
in public including internet.

Slim Shady is even in 米人 so she can behave bad sometimes.
Don't ask me what Slim Shady is. It's a dark side of one's personality
everybody has inside. Even Obama and Martin Nigger Luther King have
Slim Shady inside them.

Guess there's a Slim Shady in all of us.

word nigger must sound familiar to you because
nigger is not racist word among hip hop.
I don't know whether eminem is so accepted to blacks that he can
use nigger in front of blacks.

Osaka is considered the mecca of comedy in Japan.
People have a sense of humor.

The point of this video is people in Osaka react you even if you are
a total stranger to them when you pretend to shoot them with a gun
or slash them with a sword.

I think some (or maybe all) passers-by in the video talked about the point of this video beforehand
with TV crew on site but their reaction's are funny.

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=b9NJMzYCbjo&eurl=http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13170/Osaka+People.html

What reactions would you get if you did the same thing to strangers on the
street in your town?

I think they are more friendly and relaxed rather than comedy-wise.
Osaka or kansai culture is considerd freindly at times and annoying and
presumptuous and unsophiscated at other times.

But don't lump osaka culture in one. I heard osaka culture varies
on districts. I guess the case of tv show is downtown osaka culture.

Alright guys.
I am not >>408 and I am definitely not >>427.
Although I will admit that there is a Slim Shady in me, it isn't the type
to make me use the n-word.
Although I have been known to use the f-bomb when provoked, and sometimes
(rarely) I throw food when I'm angry.

(rarely) I throw food when I'm angry.
lol

>>459
Sorry to say, here they'd either ignore you as a public nuisance
or perhaps take you to court for threatening them.
Not a good reaction either way.

Forget about Obama.

eminem is so accepted by blacks as to be able to
use nigger in front of blacks.
Is it more natural?

Eminem is such a loser he's trying to make a comeback with a new album soon
to be released. And it is said that the album sounds exactly the same as his old stuff.
It kind of hurts to see someone once famous trying to hustle to live large again.

>>466
Oh yeah? didn't know that.

Since everybody has their own Slim Shady in them, it should be obligatory
to buy buy his new album.

You mean, bye bye to his fame? They say there's nothing new about his new album...

>>467
That was just a typing mistake. Omit one "buy."

Nothing new..... If his new album doesn't sound different from the ones
released so far, it won't sell much. His last album was titled "Curtain call"
so I thought he never releases new album and works as a producer for
other rappers like 50 Cent.

Eminem needs to rap from different angles than previous albums to sell
it.
h

I like some of his early works and the fact he's never claimed to be a gangsta rapper
as now everyone else does, so it's not gonna be too bad, maybe.
I'm sure it's going to sell well though.

I suspect almost all people celebrate Obama's inauguration just because
US media makes hoopla and they just jump on the bandwagon.

It's sure that it's historic the first African American president was
sworn in but almost nobody knows his policies in detail.

Japanese media's idiots, too. They just report how many people gathered in
Washinton and how American people celebrate Obama's inauguration.
Shame on you. Doesn't matter who'll become the president of America.
It's the most influential country in any way but keep concentrating
on Japanese politics. Why do we have to celebrate inauguration of a
foregin country? No, we don't.

Bush is Batman.
and
Lincoln was a Republican.

I have no further comments.

And Obama is a *igger.

>>471

You might be right... it really isn't that big a deal for foreign countries. I only watched
Obama's actual speech and skipped the hour or so of shit that was before and after the speech
like that ecclesiastical choir woman singing or the poem reading.

Scrawny shiny is in all of us!

Scrawny shiny is in all of us!

Nobody could change economic crisis that is delivered from subprime loan problem.
Even Got can't change the crisis.

>>471
That's exactly what I felt too.

Again I felt how influential and attention-getting
America still is.
Besides Japanese (media) made a fuss of Obama's inauguration like as their own
President while Americans don't care about us as much.
That contrast caught my attention.

The king of idiots in Japan are people in Obama city, Fukui prefecture.
The mayer and city officials "celebrate" Obama just because their city
sounds like Obama's family name.

They formed Obama dancers consisting of women and tries to send them
to the inauguration ceremony. Their true aim is not to root for Obama but
to promote their city and stimulate their city's economy, draw turists
to the town. They are real idiots.

http://www.afpbb.com/article/politics/2394315/2953701

It's actually a good thing that other counties are celebrating, even if
some of the celebrations are a bit over-the-top. I was happy to vote
for Obama. The mass celebrations show that the youth of this world
are getting more into politics, which is great, yeah?

I personally like Obama because he was sworn in as President of U.S. even though he is African-American,
so I guess he symbolizes fundamental strengths of American democracy.
But as long as Hillary Clinton, who no doubt has been receiving enormous amount of money from China,
is Secretary of State, I'm afraid that another Japan bashing will occur again not only in America, but also in other major nations.

I prediict that Japanese commedian named Nottchi, who looks like Obama, its popularity is going down in a month.
And peoples exxciting celebration for Obama is also going down in a month.

>>481

Japan bashing? What do you mean?!

>>481
so you think that clinton is receiving money from china and thus will yield to their influences of anti-japan-ness? to make up a word....

The U.S. might move towards protectionism to some extent to make it through the current economic crisis,
but it does not indicate bashing one specific country. It's China, if any, that some protectionism measures
are likely to be taken mostly against, with all factors taken into account. I don't really see how Japan-bashing
could produce much effect on the U.S. economy, and Clinton being close to the China lobby doesn't confirm it either.

↑
i think so

I'd have to agree with >>485.
This isn't the 1980s, when everyone here was freaked out over the Japanese
car industry.
If any country is affected by protectionist policies, it is most likely to be
our NAFTA trading partners Canada and Mexico, then China.
NAFTA is very unpopular in some quarters here, although I personally support it.
Some here would like to see the free trade zone expanded into South America as
well, but in the current economic climate, that is unlikely I think.

CDS market is really huge so economic crisis might last for another 2 or 3 years at least.
The cause of the economic crisis is CDS market.

>>483
>>484
I don't know what Mr. and Mrs. Clinton think of Japan, but I think their strong connection
with China would affect America's diplomatic strategy for Asia.
The other day, I saw Hillary on the news about the Senate hearing.
In her speech, she emphasized the importance of the Japan-U.S. alliance, and rarely refered to China.
Some japanese analysts explained that she just gave lip-service,
and recently she has been engaged in a fierce clash below the surface about the donations from China.
In other words, the relationship between Clinton and China is too close to announce officially.

>>489
I knew for the first time China had strong connections with Hillary.
Is this story true?

>>489 >>490
Hillary Clinton has been critical of China; however, her stands have
been somewhat undercut by her husband's relationship with China, especially
on the issue of trade.
There is concern in our country about the amount of US debt held by foreign
nations, China and Japan being our largest creditors. But Japan is perceived
as less of a threat than China.
If either country decided to sell off their US securities, it would be very,
very bad for us.

I've been looking around the net for opinions--
(The items in this list did not occur in this order. I'm simply saying things as they occur to me.)

Concerning the preacher before Obama--Rick Warren:
Everyone expected him to say something very disagreeable.
He's a preacher known for his "bigoted" attitudes.

Nobody liked "that poem".
If you heard "that poem", you know what I'm talking about.

Everyone liked Aretha Franklin, though.
Who doesn't like Aretha Franklin?
...a lot of people probably don't like Aretha Franklin.
Never mind. Never mind.

"We know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness.
We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus ―
and non-believers."
The fact that Obama acknowledged non-believers is a really big deal.
I don't know how to explain how extraordinary it is.

>>491
I see. Thanks a lot.
As to over expenditure in the trading, I know well about it.
No.1 is Canada and No.2 is China. My one of the teachers mentioned an interesthing thing about the loss of money in the traiding.
One reason of that is the U.S. has to buy products all over the world as the most influencial country and make them obey America.
btw, America imports oil the most despite being some fields in Alaska, CA and so on.

Back in the 80s, Japan's economic rise was viewed as a threat to the U.S. economy, though it turned out
to be a bubble later, and the car industry and the beef plus fruit market came under fire. However, the liberation
of those markets didn't really help solve the Japan-U.S. trade imbalance, (Canada, Australia and China won
the markets), and the car manufacturers have become very cautious not to be that 'competitive' in the U.S.
market ever since. I think it happened to coincide with the end of the Cold War and they needed to make up
an plausible excuse to let off some steam without imploding on themselves. But Obama doesn't seem to be
one to employ that sort of campaign to dodge the issue.

>>491
Our government is busy planning to raise the comsumption tax after handing out some cash to literally everyone.
I don't really know what they're thinking, but I don't think they'd touch their U.S. government bonds.

Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in
the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours
become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen
from the wilds.
—Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944

After a great deal of thought, consideration and prayer over the situation in Iraq,
I have decided that, as a superdelegate to the Democratic National Convention, I will
cast my vote for Senator Barack Obama for President. Both Senators Clinton and Obama
are extraordinary individuals, whose integrity, honor, love for this country and strong
belief in our Constitution I deeply respect.”
I believe Barack Obama is a shining young statesman, who possesses the personal temperament
and courage necessary to extricate our country from this costly misadventure in Iraq, and to
lead our nation at this challenging time in history. Barack Obama is a noble-hearted patriot
and humble Christian, and he has my full faith and support.”
--Senator Robert C. Byrd, ex-Exalted Cyclops of the KKK
Ain't progress grand?

Talking about politics is good.

But relax watching this video for a change.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia05NGd3-dU&NR=1

Nobody trained him to do that. He's grown up and he doesn't do the trick
these days. I can't help but thinking how powerful a bear, even a small
type of bear inhabiting in Japan, are. The log he turns around is heavy.

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia05NGd3-dU&NR=1

Another performance by him.

>>494

Lol

"Here is some free money!"
"Ok, now give it back."

On a somewhat unrelated note, I read that Japanese car firms in the U.S. don't have
the give their employees nearly as many benefits as American car firms are required
to by law. As a result, American firms spend billions just paying their employees
those benefits and therefore makes it harder for American firms to compete.

American big three are just lazy enough not to develop Clean and green car.
They are too lazy to realize market trend and they keep manufacturing gas gazzlers.

Japanese car industriy has been making tremendous efforts to cut costs,
streamlining manufacturing precess and all that.

>>499
It's supposed to stimulate consumption and in turn warm up the economy, according to them.
But it's obvious that they're just trying to distract attention from the tax raise. It's just not a good trick.
As for the Japanese car firms, I read the opposite story before. Their employees are well taken care
of with enough benefits so they don't have to join the unions as U.S. automakers' employees normally do.
Maybe you read about some subcontractors for car parts in the U.S. because their cars are almost "Made in USA".
I heard the U.S. auto unions are enormously influential and powerful in politics, and that's mainly what
the Big Three automakers have been suffering from.

What do you think?

I saw the footage where the Bushes got in the helicopter and a narrator
explained that the helicoptor would head to Texas.

It's just staged, right? It's a looooooooong distance from
DC to Texas and it takes ages to get to Texas by the helicopter.
I guess by the time they get to Texus, Obama's first term will be over.
I don't believe the hilicopter really took the Bushes to Texas.
What do you think?

>>502
I believe that the helicopter took him to Andrews Air Force Base.
From there he flew to Texas.

>>503
Didn't a narratir of US TV stations say the helicopter take them
to Texas?

>>504
He might have been vague about it.
The helicopters are always used to transport the President to Andrews
and from there he gets a flight to his destination.
Here's one report on it:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iie42QpG9LVj6b8ZQZhfM5w84xKgD95R1M0G1

>>505
Thank you for the link.
>Vice President Joe Biden gave Bush a brief salute as the chopper left the Capitol grounds and headed to
Andrews Air Force Base

Using your common sense, if the helicopter headed to Andrews then
that means, he used plane to Texas.

The morning show I saw yesterday sounded as if the helicopter
would carry them to Texas. So my head was full of ??????? when the narrator
sounded like that.

I'm watching Back to the Future III. Has anyone else (not American) seen it?

*when Doc and Marty find the time traveling machine in a mine shaft in 1955*
Doc: No wonder the circuit fried! It says "Made in Japan"...
Marty: All the best stuff is made in Japan, doc.
Doc: .......Unbelievable!

>>507
I've seen the series of Back To the Future ranging from �T to �V!
They were really interesting movie.

Oh, Doc and Marty made that conversation? I have completely forgotten it.
But thank you, back to the future, for reffering to the good aspect of Japan !

The stuff that is made in Japan is the best whole world.

>>507
I think I've seen I and II but not sure about III.
Anyway, very funny story regarding American's take on Japanese products back then.

It means at the point of time, 1955, Japan's products are considered
low quality, right? It would take a few more decades for the world to
acknowledge that Japanese products is high quality.

I've read a book written by American who is a professor of a university
in Japan who teaches English. In the book he introduces an episode,
there was a time when even world famous SONY's product manuals of a
transister radio are full of Eng"r"ish.

In the book he introduces another very funny episode, too. I don't remember in detail
about the story, but it goes like this: When he was a kid, maybe on Christmas
holidays, his family and relatives got together for a party. His aunt
was given a fur coat from someone as a Christmas gift and he or another
kid (I don't remember correctly) teased her, saying "The tab inside the
coat says 'made in Japan.'"

The moment she heard the kid say that she bursted into crying.
Refering to the coat as made in Japan was really insulting to her.

Will there be a time in the future, Chinese products are high quality?
Who knows?

>>510
So true, so true.
As a kid in the 60s, I remember going to the local "Five and Dime" (bargain
stores before Walmarts) to buy cheap junky toys "Made in Japan". The same
kind that we import now from China.
And I remember when a Toyota wasn't a status symbol of some sort.
Toyota Prius: I care about the environment and I'm RICH. So there!
(But I would buy one if I could...)
As China accumulates wealth, and the standard of living of her people
rises, they will start making higher quality goods for domestic use,
and eventually will export them.
The hope of our government, of course, is that when this happens,
they will evolve into a more democratic society.
Wishful thinking???

The fact that Japan was importing junk products decades ago made me get surprised.
It was almost same with the current case of China!!
My view of Japan changed into a bit bad one now.

>>512
Don't be silly!
I was talking about 40 years ago, only 20 years after WWII.
Actually Japan's post-war recovery is referred to as the "post-war
economic miracle" and is attributed mainly to smart policies by
the MITI as well as the hard work of the Japanese people.
You should be proud of that achievement; it was quite amazing.

I'll remember April.

>>513
You are cordially invited to this remarkable thread.

Dirty Talk in English (英語で猥談) Part 2
http://academy6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1223402528/

Sora no kiseki is one of the awsome RPGs created by Falcom.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=cR0YfhJJ-1E&feature=related

>>515
Who's the sex-addicted housewife?
I don't know her.

I didn't mean anything by that.

>>513
Oh, I have retrieved the proud of Japan because of you!

If you have common knowlede, you would already know it, but there doesn't exsist a sort of sex-sddicted housewife in the whole world.
It's just a rumor which someone made out of his desire to be.

>>518
I know.

You don't know what love is.

I know it.
Love is something you cannot define, and something you cannot define is love.

I can't define 2ch.
2ch is love.

I have a funny story for you.
It actually happened to someone I know.
One of the things that married women talk about with their close
friends is how much sex their husbands want, and what a pain they
can be about it sometimes. At least in America this is true.
So one of the local housewives wanted to see if there was some limit
to how much sex her husband would want.
She decided to go ahead and have sex with him every time he asked,
which started to be every night, and shortly became every night and
every morning.
It was when he started showing up at home in the middle of the day
that she realized that there was no limit.
So she cut him off for a month.

Her husband's penis is made in Spain.

Nope, made in the USA.

>>525
I cannot help thanking you for introducing an intriguing story.
But I wonder if a husband doesn't get bored with having sex with a particular woman: his spouse.
Someone who has a boy/girl friend, please tell whether you are tired of having sex with your partner or not.

>>528
There's your difference between love and desire.

>>529
I interpret your saying that if you have an affection, you don't get bored.
Is the assumption true?
If it's true, but then the husband must be full of love to his wife...

>>528
I thought the same way as >>528.
In Japan, if a man get married, how many sex he does with his wife
tend to decrease compared to before he got married.

Before marriage men are under the risk of breaking up with their
girlfriend, so he unconsciously wants to do sex with his girlfriend,
taking the full advantages of chances in which he can sleep with his
girlfriend.

But once he gets married, his chance of having sex is secured, so
he isn't in a rush for taking full advantage of sex opprtunities.
That leads to less sex.

Probably, and I heard that in USA, men see their wife as a woman
even after they delivered a baby. In case of Japan, men tend not to
see their wife as a woman. They are considered more of mother of
kids. So more often than not, once a woman deliver a baby she isn't
an object of sex but a person whose role as taking care of kids as a Mom
is emphasized.

I hear lots of couples have less sex after wife delivered a baby.

>>530
It is important to realize that for men, sex is a form of emotional
bonding, whereas women first form emotional bonds, then
have sex. Of course that is the most common relational dynamic.
Sex-less relationships commonly fail more frequently.

>>531
That seems a little tragic to me.

Yes, we can (rape white women).

Japanese TV show said that Obama's inauguration speech was written by
a 27 year old and I guess there are ghost writers behind every American
president's inauguration speech.

Isn't it strange to praise Obama for his inauguration speech?
It's the ghost writer who should be credited with it.
Any opinions?

>>534

I heard on National Public Radio that while some people wrote a bit of the
speech, Obama holed himself in a hotel for a couple of days and wrote a large
majority of the speech himself.

Must have been a bitch memorizing that speech. It was almost as long as
his election day speech.

>>535
Jon Favreau is the man who made the speech.
He was involved in other Obama's speeches.
Obama and he talked about what his inauguration speech should be like
and Obama talked about some points which should be involved in speech with
Obama. Most of the speech was made by Jon.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/20/barack-obama-inauguration-us-speech

>>534
I guess you can still let Obama get the credit for being a great speech giver at least, then.
Anyway, a person in charge of managing a country should be evaluated for what they do,
not just what they can say. We'll see.

<Quote of the day>

"Ask not what 2ch can do for you, ask what you can do for 2ch."

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=D6og3t52364&feature=related

In that she made her own music, she'e better than Britney.

She seems to have gained some weight but she can still dance!

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=nVcDkYuDq7Y&feature=related

>>531
I hate that expression "not see [you] as a woman".
If you aren't a woman, what are you then? Some kind of chimpanzee?
I realize that it is probably a translation problem, but it sounds so
bad. Of course, when you hear it in doramas, it usually signals that by
the end of the show, the guy that said that is going to end up with the
girl he said it to (if he's the hero of the story).

It's possible that men in America share those feelings, but they have the
sense to keep it to themselves, mostly.

Yesterday I went in to Boston to have lunch with my niece. We had shabu-shabu.
I ordered for myself the kimchi broth, which didn't seem hot at first, but
unfortunately I suffered a delayed reaction. I even had tears running down my face!
The waitress cured me with an order of plain rice.
My niece also ate some unagi sushi and we shared a shrimp tempura roll which here
is called "Crazy Maki". It has some kind of yellow sea creature eggs on it.
What is that stuff?

>>541
I'v never seen yellow sea creature egg, even never heard of.
I love 中トロ. It's the best. I want you to eat 中トロ when you go to the sushi bar next.
中トロ is meat of Tuna.　

>>541
>I realize that it is probably a translation problem

Maybe you are right. I translated 女性/女として見ない。to English.
What I meant by ""not see [you] as a woman" is something like,
not to be turned on by her, or not to think of her as a sexually attractive.

ttp://www.genkisushi.co.jp/genki/menu.php?com_id=81
This is eggs of flying fish.

ttp://www.genkisushi.co.jp/genki/menu.php?com_id=89
This is eggs of salmon.

ttp://reigai.meblog.biz/article/39704.html
This is eggs of codfish.

Salmon's eggs can't be desguised because they are big but
as I searched, I found out that some small eggs of any fish can be be dusguised
adding chemical additives to it and change its color.
I mean, if eggs of fish A and B are almost the same size and hard to
distinguish, bad sushi shop serves A's eggs claiming it is B's eggs.

Obama said " a false choice
between our safety and our ideals"
Is "choose between A and B" is same to "choose between A or B"?
One English-Japanese dictionary says "choose between A or B" exist
and the other English-Japanese dictionary says "choose between A or B"
is misuse.
How do all of you think about it?
Is "choose between A or B" formal and "choose between A or B"
informal but actually used?

>>479
Were they turned down by the U.S adminstration?

I halfagree with you. But their intention is not only the promotion of
the local economy but comes from their favors. These islanders become credulous and nice
when it comes to foreign things.
It's ironic that Obama surperficially said something good about them
briefly for the first and last time but don't have any interest in them at the bottom of his heart.
If they knew it, They would stop that stupid and shamful acts.
But I suspect they would continue...

>>545
They don't care about what Obama thinks of them.
Their mission is accomplised because foolish media report thier activity.
They'll keep acting like an idiot for the next eight years of his two terms.
If he is assasinated, their stupid activity will be over.

>>543
I realize that phrase isn't meant to be taken literally, but it
still sounds a little cruel in English.
What we say here might sound more like this:
"I don't see you in that way."
It has the same intention as the Japanese phrase, but for some reason
doesn't sound so harsh to me.

I'm 100% sure that it's flying fish eggs in the Crazy Maki!
Thank you for the photo guide!

>>544
I checked my dictionary, and you are only supposed to use
"choose between A and B" to describe a choice between two possibilities.
"Between A or B" is wrong and "between this, that and the other thing"
is also wrong; however, people make these mistakes often.

I'm reading a book I bought yesterday "The Mother Tongue, English
and how it got that way". It's fascinating reading--it explains
why spelling, pronunciation, verb endings, plural formation, essentially
all of our rules of grammar are so arbitrary and almost nonsensical.
Turns out that English started out as a peasant language that picked up
pieces of the languages of the various peoples that invaded Britain over
the years. No one ever cared enough about it to come up with
systematic rules of grammar until quite late in its existence.
Where did Japanese come from? It seems to be a language orphan.

90s is not so different from 80s.
What happened under Bill Clinton era

A series of lawsuits against Japanese corporations
Nemeric goal for american imports by japan.
Bashing Japan is manuplating exchange rate and japanese makers are
profitting unjustly
The president called japan "enemy".
Depreciating chinese yuan by 60% and increasing chinese export competitiveness
(decresing japanese export competitiveness)

In 1997 Jiang Zemin dropped by pearl harbor and criticized Japan.
In 1998 Bill Clinton dodged japan route and landed on Xian not Beijing.
Xian is where chinese communist party and Kuomintang Party got united against Japan.
Clinton called china "old ally".
Clinton stayed in china for nine days and never visited Japan on his route.
Returning home, he dropped by pearl habor on July 4th, the independence day.

>>546
Obama girls and boys disgust me. Because they are neither boys
nor girls...
How about calling obama babaas. Good combination of sounds.

>>541
It can be uni, [ which isn't an egg but the flesh of the black chestnut crust like sea creature ].

>>489
It's well-known Hillary Clinton in her dissertation called America-China relation
the most important relationship in this centruy talked talked talked
about China and mentioned japan hardly, only in one sentence.

I don't know dissertation is a correct word.

>>547
Japanese comes from Korean language.
But Chinese language has also got into Japanese language.
English language is Keltic and Germanic and Latenic and Vaikingnic.

On a somewhat unrelated note, I read that Japanese car firms in the U.S. don't have
the give their employees nearly as many benefits as American car firms are required
to by law.
-------------
The same goes to Japanese car firms in Japan.
I was bit surprised to know this fact.
Today American auto workers are wealthier than Japanese
auto workers while American auto makers are on the brink of
bankrupcy.

>>552
It's false. Japanese is unique and isolated language from
famous language group.
It's proven linguistically.
Japanese and korean are similar in grammer.
But too different in standard and simple, daily words.
Similarities in words come from words from chinese (characters).
There is a theory that korean is one of Altay languages(represented by turkish).
Again it's not proven yet.

Since Kataoka is old, he still believes in old stuff.

Here is a part of a short story from Geoffrey Chaucer, an Englishman from
the 14th century. It barely looks like modern English, doesn't it? I have a
hard time understanding some lines of it, but I think I get the general message.

But, for ye speken of swich gentillesse As is descended out of old richesse
That therefore sholden ye be gentil men, Swich arrogance is nat worth an hen.
Looke who that is moost vertuous alway, Pryvee and apert, and moost entendeth ay
To do the gentil dedes that he kan; Taak hym for the grettest gentil man.
Crist wole we clayme of hym oure gentillesse, Nat of oure eldres for hire old richesse.
For thogh they yeve us al hir heritage, For which we clayme to been of heigh parage
Yet may they nat biquethe, for no thyng, To noon of us hir vertuous lyvying,
That made hem gentil men ycalled be, And bad us folwen hem in swich degree.

Here is what I think it means.

But, you claim that a man who is born wealthy is a gentleman. Such arrogance is not
worth anything.
A gentleman is one who is virtuous always and most attentive andvivacious.
A gentleman is one who does as many good deeds as he can.
That is what we believe is a gentleman, not one who was born rich.
Although one may be of high heritage and parage, that does not mean one
is virtuous by default.

And I'm not sure about the last line.

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%AA%9E%E3%81%AE%E8%B5%B7%E6%BA%90
Too many theories.

But, for ye speken of swich gentillesse
[ As is descended out of old richesse
[ That therefore sholden ye be gentil men ],
Swich arrogance is nat worth an hen.
Looke [ who [ that is moost vertuous alway, Pryvee and apert, and moost entendeth ay ]
[ To do the gentil dedes [ that he kan ] ];
Taak hym for the grettest gentil man.
Crist wole we clayme of hym oure gentillesse,
Nat of oure eldres for hire old richesse.
[ For thogh they yeve us al hir heritage ],
[ For which we clayme to been of heigh parage ]
Yet may they nat biquethe, for no thyng, To noon of us hir vertuous lyvying,
[ That made hem gentil men ycalled be, And bad us folwen hem in swich degree ].

But, you claim [ that a man [ who is born wealthy ] is a gentleman ].
Such arrogance is not worth anything.
A gentleman is one [ who is virtuous always and most attentive and vivacious ].
A gentleman is one [ who does as many good deeds [ as he can ] ].
That is [ what we believe is a gentleman ],
not one [ who was born rich ].
[ Although one may be of high heritage and parage ],
that does not mean [ one is virtuous by default ].

>>554
This person looks down on Korean people.
Our language came from Korean language [ because our anscesters sailed from Korean peninnsula ].

Here's a YouTube video that's been popular lately:
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHBVnMf2t7w
The audio is by an Australian comedy band called "Axis of Awesome".
There's also a live version on YouTube:
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1fQ1P4Mwlc

I guess it's a little like the famous "Pachelbel Rant".
It's a lot longer, though, and (to me, at least) a lot more fun.

Oh, also--
The linked version and the live version are a little different.
That's because the band updates the song every so often.

>>561
I don't know technical things about music so I don't understand
4 chords thing exactly but I understand what they are trying to convey.

They are kind of sarcastic about those tunes made with 4 chords.

Hey all, I'm back! Actually, I arrived back Wednesday night but haven't had time to
post until now. D.C. was amazing. My group did a lot of touring, seeing all the usual sites.
We have a friend who is a Senate Page and he was able to get us tickets for the Senate gallery
in the US Capitol. There were only a few senators on the floor, but John Kerry was one of them.
Hmmm, if you have any more questions feel free to ask, I couldn't possibly explain everything
in one post.
Here's a picture I took at the Inauguration: ttp://photos-b.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v2066/243/56/1156650405/n1156650405_30503841_8366.jpg
(you can see how far back I was lol)

>>563
How long was John Kerry is face?
Participating in the inauguration was your purpose during your visit there, right?
Who organized your trip there? Purpose?
How did you cope with needing to pee. Some people wore a diaper.

I heard the news the quartette wasn't playing. They just pretended to
play with prerecorded music. The reason is the temperature was expected to
get very low and shivering.

>>563

Fuckin' lucky bastard. Everyone goes on cool trips but me.

One day, I will leave the south!

I'm bored to death.

>>566
Actually, boredom is the no.1 cause of the death next to cancer.

I'm interested in the usage of “of”, which appeared on the last line of >>556.
To put it more concretely, this sentense;
“Although one may be of high heritage and parage, ..”-★

I have a few knowledge about “be of ＋ noun” .
For example, if you say 'He had been of no value until he graduated from college', it means 'He had not not valuable until he graduated from college'.

But above usage can't explain the case of -★, so I examined it on the web.
I found the explanation of it given by someone.

like this;

　My father is of the old school. He believes that children should always be quiet.
　（父は昔気質の人間で，子どもは常に静かにしているべきだと信じている。）

　つまり、自分の「現在時点の父のあり方」を「is」で述べ、そして、父の性格を陳述するために、
「of the old school（古風な，昔気質（かたぎ）の，頭の古い，時代遅れの，旧式な」を付けているわけです。
ですから、「be + of」という形でなく、「be << of」という形（「be動詞」を「of」で規定する形）
と覚えて欲しいのです。

For as much as government can do, and must do, it is ultimately the faith
and determination of the American people upon which this nation relies.

�@This is because though government can do, and must do, much,
what this nation ultimately relies on is the faith and determination of the American people.

�AWhat this nation ultimately relies on for the utmost extent to which government can,
and must, work, is the faith and determination of the American people.

Would anyone teach me which is nearer to the meaning of the original text?

>>560
You never learn. looking down or not,
your theory is not valid in this day and age.

You must be an enthusiasitc believer of 騎馬民族征服説 equestrian subjugation theory?, which
was prevalant decades ago but fringe in today's archeology and history
academics.

If koreans had invaded Japan around two thousand years ago, there should be strong
similarity in basic Japanese words and standard Korean words as exists
between England and Germany.

You are too old and stick to your belief imprinted in you at
youger age.

>>569
'of' in "one may be of high heritage and parage (sic=peerage?)" denotes 'origin', not 'nature',
though 'of' in the sentence you cited indicates 'nature', not 'origin', I think.

http://www2.odn.ne.jp/~had26900/topics_&_items2/nihongo_chosengo.htm
number-japanese-Ryukyuan languages(okinawa dialect)-korean
1-hito-ti-hana
2-huta-ta-du:l
3- mi-mi-se:t
4-yo-yu-ne:t
5-itu-ichi-das⊃t
6-mu-mu-y⊃s⊃t
7-nana-nana-il-gob
8-ya-yaya-y⊃d⊃lt
9-kokono-kukunu-a-hob
10-to-tu-y⊃:l

body parts-japanese-Ryukyuan-languages(okinawa dialect)-korean
hand-te-tu-son
foot-asi-hwisja-bal, da-ri
nose-fana-hana-ko
eye-me-mii-nun
mouth-kuti-kuci-ib
tooth-fa-haa-i
ear-mimi-mimi-gui
hair-ke-kii-teol
head-kasira-ciburu-meo-ri
tongue-sita-siba-hyeo
belly-fara- ‘wata-bae
back-se-nagani-deung

Oh, I don't know such a word as 'parage' exist.
A red dotted line is drawn under 'parage', so I thought it was a misspelling.

parage:
kindred; family; birth.
We claim to be of high parage.
- Chaucer.

The passage I posted is in Middle English. In other words, it is English from the period
after the French Normans conquered England so it holds some similarities to French. Parage
is an archaic word, I had to look it up myself lol.

http://www2.odn.ne.jp/~had26900/topics_&_items2/nihongo_chosengo.htm
Some idiotic koreans and japanese claim they can read manyoshu(
oldest anthology of poetry in Japan) by ancient korean language.
However ancient korean language is hardly known and oldest medieval korean books
existing today were all written in Chinese characters and old chinese
languages.
They interpert manyoshu by modern korean language(dialect) as ancient korean
language and claim there is hidden codes in ancient korean language...

Like
古池や蛙飛び込む水の音 furuicaya cawazutobecom mizunooto
Fully care cowards! To become midnote

jews and japanese homoeology theory is more popular these days.
It's less credible I guess.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Nicholas-McLeod

>>564
Haha, yea Kerry has a pretty long face, although from my vantage point I couldn't
confirm that very well.
The trip was organized by "World Strides" which had many groups in DC for the inauguration.
Somehow my group got stuck with 2 other groups from Indiana, instead of some Chicago groups.
It was too bad because I met some cute Chicago girls on my plane ride back lol.
As for the peeing in all seriousness, that was a royal pain. They had porta-potties around the
perimeter but there was no way I wanted to try and find my way back to my group after. So, I
ended up holding my bladder for a good 6 hours...
I didn't know that about the quartet, although there would be no way I could tell.

>>578
Abstaining from spurting urine for long hours is a cause of cystitis.

Here is a passage from "The Governor" by Sir Thomas Elyot written in 1531. It is quite
a bit easier to read. Unnecessary e's after a lot of words and as for the others...
minisshe - diminish
prouerbe - proverb
Apparently this was when the word maturity was first introduced into the English language.

Maturitie is a meane betwene two extremities, wherin nothing lacketh or excedeth:
and is in suche astate, that it may neither encrease nor minisshe without losinge
the denomination of Maturitie. The grekes in a prouerbe do expresse it properly in
wordes, whiche I can none other wyse interprete in englisshe, but speede thee slowly.

Question

I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but what is "ksk" supposed to
mean in Japanese?

詳しくkuwasiku, which means "in detail".
it's 2ch slang.

Oh, sorry ksk means 加速kasoku which means speeding up.

kwsk is 詳しく.

>>579
Oh no, I'll keep an eye out then.

'ksk' is an acronym of 'kasoku' (加速), an English equivalent of this word being 'acceleration'.
'ksk' is used to express your desire for an accelerated velocity with which a thread is consumed.

'kwsk' is an acronym of 'kuwas(h)iku' (詳しく), an English equivalent of this word being 'at full length'.
'kswk' is used to say that you want to know in detail a posting someone posted on a thread.

http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q127875247

Thank you for your speedy and detailed responses.

Could you actually see Mr.Obama at the inaugulation without using displays, america jin ?

>>586
I didn't know about "ksk". Is that popular among 2ch now?
I have never seen it used before, though I'm Japanese.

>>578
You should have taken a picture of a porta-potty, too.

I didn't know about Senate Page and I had to leaf through Wikipedia.
How did you get the Senate Page friend? You live in Chicago and the Senate
Page has to live in DC for his job. You made friends with him/her
when he/she lived in Chicago? Does he/she wants to a politician in the
future?

Never heard of World Strides so I googled and checked its website a bit.
You applied for the tour or was it mandatory for all seniors to
particiopate the event? There are some destinations such as NY,
combination of NY and DC and other destinations. Regarding your
trip this time, did it happen to be the same time as inauguration
or was it knd of a special version that was designed for the date
of inauguration? Last but not least, did you steal some panties
while staying at a hotel?

Lots of questions! Sorry. you don't have to bother to answer all of them.

>>587
Where did you see "ksk"? You see other threads in 2ch other than
this thread? Just curious.

According to the news article I read just now, Korean people are planing cyber terror against Japan
because of anime called Hetaria in which Korea isn't supposed to appear. I don't know what Korean people are thinking.
If they really do cyber-attack, I guess 2ch will be down for a while again; I remember 2ch severs were down
for several hours on account of Korean attack. Hmm, Korean people stoop that low..

I think both sides of the J and K anime otaku should set up a couple of new servers somewhere else
and DoS-attack each other as much as they want until they realize it's not worth it in the least.

It sounds like interesting.
If I have a skill for battling to Korean Otaku on syber fighting, I would fight to Korean attacker.

>>593
That's an idea. But Korean go so far as to turn the issue into foreign policy or something.
I don't get it. The last I heard, the diet of Korea discussed it (what the fuck!? lol).
I've never heard of any other examples like this.
You know what I mean?
I've never heard of Russia trying to stop Hollywood from creating films in which Russian Secret agents appear.

However, Korean people are inadvertently advertising this anime very effectively.
I myself didn't know about Hetaria until Korean people made a big fuss. Alas, that wasn't supposed to happen for their part. lol

I've never heard of there being otaku in Korea.
Rather I have little knowledge about otaku abroad.
I'm even doubtful of its exsistense.
If there is a chance, I would like to see how otaku abroad look like and
compare them with Japanese counterparts, because otaku is considered to be far from normal here.
(I'm not sure whether is's true actually, though.)
Please introduce a tipical example of foreign otaku. if possible.

>>595
I've never heard of that anime before, nor am I interested to know what it's like, but I'm sure they're just
overreacting to something they don't want to see or hear, as usual. But perhaps you're right. The production
company or animator deliberately made it controversial so it could draw attenion to it.

Actually, it looks like a big deal, really and they've succeeded in closing down the broadcast on TV.
Now I'm intersted in the anime. lol Thanks for the info.

It's probably a case of a (relatively) small number of people overreacting.
That's usually the cause of these sorts of things, right?

I bet a lot of Korean otaku actually wanted to see this anime.
I wonder if there's anyone fansubbing it...?

>>597
It's an interesting speculation, but in fact the anime movei has been banned to broadcast any more, right?
If that's the case, I guess the loss would exceed the profit made by gathering attention.

>>600
That's right, the TV show got shut down completely.
It doesn't seem to be deliberate but sounds like it's a parody of a lot of nations, races and historical events,
so I guess it's supposed to be somewhat offensive in nature. But yeah, I bet the production side never thought
things would go this far. Anyway, I'd like to see it myself too

>>599
Japan vs Korea might be overemphasized on the net but maybe not.
I've heard of koreans rewrite Wikipedia to work in favor of Korean, fabricating facts.

Maybe koreans hostility to Japan emerge under anonymity or it's just that
small portions of them are doing negative campaign against Japan.
I really don't know.

If I'm not wrong, Korean's cyber attack to 2ch happened a number of times
before, anyway.

>>601
The victim was not restricted to Korea ?
Anyway, it seems that the company tried to make a profit at someone else's expense.
They can't complain about the severe sanction, regrettably.
Now but I have to check what kind of contents that is!!

>>599
>a (relatively) small number of people overreacting
I'm not sure if we can call 10 thousands small, but yeah you are right about
their overreaction. The funny thing is, the anime in question is supposed to be
broadcast in Japan, if I'm not mistaken, and so Korean people have nothing to do with it,
except in case they watch illegally uploaded episodes. What gives them the idea of going against
Japanese anime? If they don't want to watch, then they shouldn't.

>>601
As far as I know, one of the representatives of the anime agency says that Korea doesn't appear in the anime,
and that it was surprising Korean people acted like that. Mind you, they seemed to get attention as Korean people
as good as advertised the anime dispite their intentions. lol
Did you know the name of the anime beforehands? I guess not.

>>602
There's a saying I hold true to my heart--
"The stupidest people are always the loudest".

No matter what country you go to, there are always going to be distasteful people.
And usually, these distasteful people will be the ones who "act out" the most.

But, you can't judge a country by the worth of its worst people.
If you do that, you might end up thinking that all Americans are bigoted, violent people who curse all the time.
Or you might think that all Japanese are misogynistic and hairy, and sneer at you when you have your back turned.

By the way, I've heard stories about a manga that was recently going to be localized and sold in the United States...
Apparently, at the last moment, there was some sort of public controversy?
I don't really follow much manga, so I don't know the details.
My point is, similar things happen, no matter what country you're in.

Incidentally, I bet some bilingual fellow is translating that manga into English and spreading it online even now.

>>605
Do you remember the name of the manga that didn't make it to the U.S.?

>>555
That is so cool! I think that the parentheses in >>558 actually help me
to see what it says.

>>561
Best pop song ever. I also liked the "Pachelbel Rant" which I hadn't seen
before.

>>563
お帰りなさい。
The middle schoolers in our town all came back whining about standing
out on the Mall for so long. I don't think they were mature enough to
appreciate what they were seeing.
John Kerry--for some reason, that man irritates me. Although I vote for
him every time he runs.

>>565
You should see New York city sometime in your life.
And if you're already that far north, come on up to New England!
The coast of Maine is unbelievably beautiful in the summertime.
Rhode Island has the best food. Massachusetts the best beaches.
Vermont the most cows per capita. New Hampshire the most nutjobs.
Connecticut...I'm not sure why anyone would visit Connecticut. You can
skip that one.

>>570
I would say #1 is closest. There is an ongoing debate in this country regarding
the role & size of government. The Democrats have been accused of believing that "big
government" is needed to solve all of our problems. Obama was saying that government
does have an important role, but in the end, it is the hard work and creativity of
the people of this country that is needed. That would include businesses (especially
small business), and volunteerism.

>>590
You asked, so...
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUHc7A37Mu0

Thank you everyone for your responses regarding the origin of Japanese!
It seems there are a lot of theories out there, and maybe the subject is
a bit controversial. Whatever language Japanese came from has long since
disappeared, so unless someone digs up an ancient writing sample, it seems
likely to remain a mystery. Doesn't it seem likely that it originated
on the Korean peninsula, because of proximity?

>>576
The Ten Lost Tribes of Israel have been proposed to have settled in the
New World (to form the Native American tribes), Asia (Japan or China), Africa
(Ethiopia or Zimbabwe), Peru, Ireland, etc.....
In short, they are anywhere and everywhere.

Hi! I want to talk to you in English!
But im not good at speaking English..
Can i join this Chat///?

>>608
>Doesn't it seem likely that it originated on the Korean peninsula, because of proximity?

Maybe, since nobody can disprove it.
Some Korean people insist that Jesus Christ was born in Korea, btw.

Dont worry about it man.
some of shit make f**king discussing though many people here do not understand them

so, u are able to talk with guys that can not keep up that discussion

>>608
That's the kind we have in Japan, too. If that's what アメリカ人 is
talking about, it is not embarassing to use it.
I Imagined things like this placed there.
http://www.imara.es/tienda/images/Porta_potti.jpg

>>609
Welcome to the thread!

>>613
That looks like something you'd put on your boat or in your camper or
whatever. In public, we have what was in the video.

more fun with portapotties:
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ELY8P5PWNo&feature=related

I learned that there are a lot of semilarity between Japanese and English
when it comes to the phrases or saying.
For example, the two sentenses below are similar in that both of them are using
boil(煮える) to express their anger.

I'm boiling with hatred feeling against our principal.
私は校長への怒りではらわたが煮えくり返っている。

There are many other examples like this. It's interesting.

>>615
Super super omosiroi video !
I want to know how they reacted after being telled the secret.

>>591

I saw ksk on this niconico video

ttp://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5933749

I am kokeshi！

>>588
Nope, definitely not lol. I had a friend who had "orange tickets" though and she
was the closest non-politicians could get. Makes me so jealous lol.

>>590
Senate pages are appointed by their state senator (in this case Senator Durbin).
There are 30 spots for pages at a time and only the most senior senators can appoint them.
Sometimes they give the spot to the child of a big donor and some senators require an
application process. My friend won the spot through the application process so he took a
semester off from my school and has been in D.C. for the past few months. So yes, I've
known him for awhile and I guess being a senate page is a good way to get your foot in the door
for politics. The senate pages have almost unlimited access to the Capitol building and they can
walk into basically any room except for intelligence/military committees.

The World Strides trip was specifically designed around the inauguration and only 14 of us went.
The trip was given priority to seniors and then a few juniors went as well.

>>607
Thanks 米人! Yea, I was surprised to see middle schoolers at the World Strides dance on Sunday.
I didn't think they could appreciate such a historic event, and maybe I was right lol.
>>615
Hahaha, that's a classic.

>>616
That's really interesting. Do you know any others off the top of your head? I thought it
was hard to find Japanese and English phrases that have the same literal meaning.

Side note: I got an A on my Japanese final!
Wow long post.

OBAMA's speech is on now in NHK-TV!

You can't miss this!

God bless United States

>>620
Congratulations on your A!
One of the moms told me something funny about the 8th graders that
went to Washington--the teacher chaperones taped their hotel doors
shut at night so they couldn't sneak out.
They didn't do that sort of thing to your group did they?

>>623
Heh, World Strides hired people to stay in the hallways during the night to keep an eye on us.
However, at one point we had 15 people in our room way past curfew watching the movie "Pulp Fiction".
We were so loud the security people woke up our chaperones at 2am and they kicked everyone out.
Luckily we weren't doing anything bad besides being out of our rooms past curfew, otherwise we would
really have been in big trouble. So we just got away with a slap on the wrist =P. Other class trips from
my school have had problems with drinking though, notably the ones to China and Hungary.
I can't believe how stupid those kids were because they always get caught and they always get suspended.

>>624

Fuck man. The only school trip my class ever got the chance to do was the
traditional trip of Washington DC and that got fucking canceled due to 9/11.
China and Hungary? Fuck.

>>625
Didn't you even get to go to Memphis or Nashville?
I grew up in Connecticut.
We went to the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC and to the
Gardner Museum in Boston during February. The only thing I remember
about the Boston trip was that the sidewalks were covered with dog crap.
It's not like that now though.
My son is going to Bryce Canyon in Utah this year, a trip put together
by the 8th grade Earth Science teacher.

>>626

Well... I live just about 15 minutes away from Nashville and I went to Memphis
once to stay at the Peabody Hotel, but going to Memphis isn't really anything
special. Only time I've ever been north was to go to an OSU game on account that
I was offered a luxury suite in the stadium, but that's it.

>>627
Did you ever go to Graceland?
I'd bet you can get much much better BBQ in Memphis than you could ever find up here.
Wow, I'm checking out a Tennessee tourist site; there's some pretty
strange stuff to see there, from the man-creature head in Lebanon to Kenton, white
squirrel capital of the world. An elephant sanctuary in Hohenwald.
I myself would like to see Shiloh and Chickamauga someday. Oak Ridge might be interesting too.
When I was a kid, my family camped one night in the Great Smoky Mountains Natl. Park en route to
Florida, but I don't remember much about it.

>>620
Congratulations on gettig an A.
I hope you are motigvated to study Japanese more than ever, but maybe
in reality you feel released from the burden of studying Japanese.

Thanks for the explanations. I understand the system even more about
Senate Page.

>Sometimes they give the spot to the child of a big donor

I don't like the way to be chosen. It doesn't sound fair.
Your friend must be good academically and being chosen a page must be a
good advantage to univerisity application prosesses.

From the videos I saw on World Strides website, kids there all look well-bread.

>>615
Really funny vid. Porta is a short form of portable?

>>625
Yeah, my school has a lot of these trips. We host a lot of exchanges as well.
I guess there was no controlling your cancellation =/.

>>626
My mom grew up in Connecticut as well and I go there every year to see my grandparents.
Is your son's trip like an official 8th grade trip or is it sign-ups only? Either way Bryce Canyon
looks jaw-dropping beautiful and he's lucky to go.

>>629
A feel a bit relaxed right now but I do have another semester to go before I graduate.
Plus I plan on studying it still in college, so don't worry lol.

>From the videos I saw on World Strides website, kids there all look well-bread.
That's because World Strides costs money. It's not too bad: $1200 for air fare, hotel, and
2 meals/day for 4 days. Most parents wouldn't be willing to pay that though, especially now.

>>620
Yeah, I have some other examples.

To emphasize the serious condition, you can say 〜は、がけっぷちである in Japanese,
and you can say 〜 is on the brink of .., for example.
Both of the sentense use 崖(brink) to emphasize seriousness.

In the more familiar case, when you talk about your ideal future plan, you say “my dream is to be ...” in English and
“私の夢は... です。” in Japanese.
夢(dream) means not only nightmare or something like this, but also your ends.

Looking at a proearb, there are also some similarities among them.
Here in Japan, there is one famous proverb; えびで鯛(たい)をつる, which means
to fish a see bream with a shrimpt.
Also, I heard a similar English counterpart, which is “use small fry to catch a big fish.”
They are equal each other in terms of that both of them indicate making a big profit by a small loss.

I often notice these things but I can't think all of them right now.
The similarity in the process of thinking is more than just a coincidence, isn't it?

Liberty City, where the American dream goes to die

My butt stinks. What should I do?

I hate American.

Exciting sumo match was done right before.
It was worth watching without doubt.

That's an idea. But Korean go so far as to turn the issue into foreign policy or something.
I don't get it. The last I heard, the diet of Korea discussed it (what the fuck!? lol).
I've never heard of any other examples like this.
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>>595
Haha. I read an interview on the web weeks ago in which
a leader of a russian communist party(not famous one, one splinter
and fringe party) complained about the plot of new 007 movie.
I don't remember what he said. What I remember was that for him the plot was
defame and disgrace to Communist party and communism.
He just showed his opinion and he didn't have any motivation to turn his opinion
into political move.
First of all his party doen's have a seat in the parliament.
So
>I've never heard of any other examples like this.
It seems true.

First of all his party doen's have a seat in the parliament.

Sorry, I became not sure of this. But not a nationwide party,
I guess.

>>605
When neo-nazi protest happens, usually antis outnumber them
and antis get louder.
I think the guarantee of free speech by law as well as
the free atmosphere to denouce opponent is also important.
Koreans don't live in the atmosphere to support japan or
attack hater of Japan.
If worst people is 5% of the population but their voices are
not attacked at all from fear, they are as much as 100%. (I used exaggeration)
And their politicians are elected by electorates.

I guess Russia and korea lacks in something.
They are democratic countries on the surface.

By the way, I 've seen korean protesters cutting ther small fingers
as a protest to takeshima dispute and chopping off the heads of birds
which are japanese national bird.
I think these are idiots and exceptional. But I don't know
the case korean media criticized them. Rather praised and encouraged them.

little finger was adequate.

>>621
I'm not 616.

How about 怒髪天を衝く vs hit the ceiling.
怒髪天を衝く literally means angry hair hit the sky.
It comes from chinese proverb.

Be careful of similarities though. Japanese usage can
be infuluenced by English or western languages introduced after
meiji era. I don't show a specific example now though.

>>640
I can give a example.

That is only the tip of the iceberg.
->それは氷山の一角にすぎない。

This must be one of the phrases absorbed from English because such coincidence
are very unlikely to occur.
Don't you think so?

>>641
I do agree with you and I think I once thought of it.

Are you a drug dealer?

How do you know?

I want to ask Japanese who learn English.
Do you exactly understand English in a movie or dorama without subtitles?

Understanding colloquial English is beyond my ability.

>>630
So, you are planning on keeping studying English at least for more years.
Cool. $1200 is a big money. I searched and found out that the cheapest
round trip between CHicago and DC costs 215$.
1200-215=985$ for hotel and meals for four days.
What a fancy hotel you stayed! What gorgeous meals you had!

>>645
Dramas and movies are the hardest. It depends on movies and dramas but
without subtitles, I understand less than 20, 30%.

It's a lot easier to understand NHK news broadcast in English.

I saw you skulking away. Why are you acting that way？

>>442
Hmm... the Korean evangelist seems to have appeared now and again since I
was last here.

>>57
I'm really, really sorry to disappoint you... but I'm only 50% English.
I can pretend to be 100% English for you though!

This thread is under 24-hour surveillance by the FBI.

Federal bureau of investigation?

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>>634

Everyone does. We are the world's greatest evil, after all, and Bush is the devil.

oh,
I like U.S. even if all people in the world hate that

>>650
You'll be sick if you know how Korean insist all the good things created so far be made by Korea. lol
I didn't used to care about it, but after realizing they dog Japan, I got sick of it..
Don't take this the wrong way, but I guess you wouldn't understand how it feels, if England weren't boardered/faced across with the nation.

>>620
Wow, congraturations!
I knew you did it well, but that would boost your motivation, wouldn't it?

>>654
That's not true.

By the way, did you know more than 400,000 copies of the CD books of the collection of Obama's speeches were sold in Japan?

I'm not sure if his speeches are copyrighted and the publisher(s) of such books have to pay loyalty to Obama, though.

>>655
The brighter the sun shines, the darker the shadow is.

>>638
It's definitely true that a silly foreign manga being on the agenda of the Diet sounds pretty ridiculous.
But the underlyng issue in the Hetaria thing is a Japanese domestic one in relation to freedom of expression
and political correctness, I think. I read some of it, only to find it quite boring. And Italy was the one that is
being mocked all the way along, so some Italians might get offended in this regard. But still, they shouldn't have
stopped broadcasting it just because it could be offensive to some people. After all, it's just a goddamn manga
that is meant to be far off reality, not to mention the fact that there's absolutely zero academic credibility, reliability
whatsoever intended in it. And the end result is that the right to express whatever we want to is in jeopardy.
Either that, or I'm just making a big deal out of it here, too.

>>616
Hahaha, I'm not sure why, but I find the sample sentence about the principal
sort of funny. It's probably because I didn't give a shit about the principal of my school,
and so didn't give any thought to what he was like or anything. lol

>>638
>chopping off the heads of birds
>which are japanese national bird.
Hmm, I remember CNN broadcast the bird slaughter demonstration.
It's kinda horrifying, and at the same time, I was disappointed
that Japanese media didn't even report the news.
Why should I get to know or see it on Youtube??
The Japanese media are rotten as well in a certain way.

>>660
I guess you are right.

Would I bring myself to their level if I put this kind of article?
But let me... Korean law officers are out of ordinary.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai/Sailors_protest_officers_detention_in_Korea/articleshow/3882413.cms

In case you can't be bothered to read the full article, I'll cut a long story short.
A korean vessel crashed into an Indian ship with oil containers that stayed in a Korean port, and the oil leaked into the sea,
and the Indian sailers got a detention even though their ship were just floating and not sailing. Why?
I don't understand why that could happen. That's just unfair.

(I heard it's because the Korean sailers wanted to save money for buying insurance, though)

>>631
Thanks for the examples. I was curious about the dream one because I had used
it when talking to my host sister and she understood it perfectly. For some reason
I thought that using "dream" instead of "goal" would not be common in Japanese.
>>641
That one is really interesting, and I'm guessing you're right about it not being a coincidence.

>>647
Touche. Although I'm guessing the hotel prices were pretty high due to the high demand. Also, our group
had a coach bus as well as a World Strides tour guide every day. I thought it was well worth the money to
see such a historic occasion. I definitely had my doubts before the trip though whether it would be worth
my parent's money.

>>638
There was a famous case regarding neo-nazis and free speech quite close to my city a few decades ago:
ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5498926

Could somebody transcribe what Youko says at 3:04, and then what Rakushun says at 3:07?
Thanks.

>>664
>I thought that using "dream" instead of "goal" would not be common in Japanese.
As a Japanese, when I use "dream", it's not fixed, I mean, you don't have to be so serious about it.
So I hear some people say, "I want to live "somewhere abroad" like in America or France or England,
no matter how possible it may be. It sometimes is not well planed, coz they are talking about their dreams.
Dreams may or may not come true. You can be irresponsible about your statement in a way.
But when using "goal", I'd feel I have to accomplish it. It probably is because the goal has to be set in the near future,
and it may be realized. If you fail, it may be a setback.
I think you might hear this phrase "今年の目標は〜です", and as I said,
the goal is short-term and it sounds to me that the person who says that is kind of certain
that he or she can manage to accomplish it.

>>665
the women asked "Don't you wear any clothes?", and the animal responded "Well, coz wearing something is a tight fit, so...".

>>656
We (the UK) have a somewhat similar relationship with France, I think.

How much demonization of the Nazis do you think is found overt or latent in the U.S. and Europe?
I know in Germany, it's illegal to display the swastika （卍） in public, and it is pretty normal to
see them being stigmatized not only in war movies but in regular dramas. I am not very interested
in any supremacism, since they usually fail to stay valid in the logical process of justification or
rationalization of their assertions, but just curious how widely they're percieved evil or stupid in general.

>>668
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=SlTks9toOmQ
You can call yourself 100% English. You have no non-white blood.
Pure Enropean. You can be proud of it.

I'm surprised to know your Prime Minister Satcher has a possibility of comming from
arabic nomadic people.

It's not known from which parent non-white blood comes.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51R08NFF2WL._SL500_AA240_.jpg
This ugly londoner might have given non-white gene to her daughter,
a girl on the left in the picture.
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/03_02/thatcherTMOS2403_468x364.jpg

>>607
Thanks for answering my question!
There is a difference in meaning among the Japanese translations
by the major Japanese newspapers.
Judging from your answer, the translation by Asahi is the most appropriate.

政府の能力や義務は、究極的には米国民の信念と決意が決定する。（毎日）

政府はやれること、やらなければならないことをやるが、
詰まるところ、わが国がよって立つのは国民の信念と決意である。（読売）

なぜなら、政府はできること、しなければならないことをするにせよ、
この国が依存するのは、究極的には米国人の信頼と決意であるからだ。（朝日）

My onany- time is coming!!
yeah ohoooooooo good yes yes!I'll go now!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>673
fuck off

>>674
language

>>674
Unpleasant absorbing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By the way ,Could you help my Onane?

I want to go more more more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
please give me "okazu"ok?

Mother fucker！

When someone express his/her good feeling in sex, you find a significant defference between Japanese and English.
Americans are apt to say “I'm coming.” unlike the Japanese say “I'm going.”.
One writer said that this difference stem from the different attitude toward sex.
According to him, Americans are more active while the Japanese are more passive.
American ladies tend to pursue happiness by themselves , on the other hand, Japanese ladies are expecting her partner
to make herself comfortable.
I'm not sure these explanations are true though because I haven't had any opportunity to hear them uttered in the real life!

I think that there's no difference between Japanese and English because
the Englsh word " come " can be translated into "いく”in Japanese in some occasions.

>>678
You are to remember "Change line" in the beginning.

>>672
I learned "as much as...."　sometimes means "although...,　as much,"
だとは言うけれどもそれと同じくらい〜だ。

In my opinoon mainichi's translation is too simple and lacks
original meaning.

In obama's speech, he used the form of "no less something than"
several times.
His usage was really educational for Japanese English leaners.
I can understand the words following no less are to be usually positive
words.

robotinfunabashi

>>547
米人, thank you. Sorry for my negligence and dealy.
The example sentence of Japan's most influential and famous japanese-English dictionary, Genius is this : I had to choose between going with him
or staying here alone.
I can find an example sentence in oxford English-English dictionary too.

My understanding is that "choose between A and B" is formal and originally right,
but "choose between A or B" derived from the formal usage and used in
real life.

I decided to stick to the formal usage, between A and B.

It is my theory that all popular Japanese songs these days contain all
three of these words: 世界、夢、好き。
Any Japanese care to tell me if I'm right or wrong?

>>539-540
Debbie Gibson, Tifffany and other teenage idols had disappeared
with their youth unlike Britney.
When Debbie got in his early 20s, she looked pretty old and different
eventhough she was still young. Maybe some makeup and different
singing attitude changed her.
She seemed to lose her magic. She seemed to be struggeling between
vergin, cute image and mature woman image.

Britney keeps on singing as ever in the middle and late of 20s.
What's the difference? Personally I don't like her much. She
is somewhat a deadcopy of Madonna, whom I don't like. Maddonna's
tactics is too blatant and cheap.

However there was an exception. Kiley Minogue survived and
get over aging and succeeded in changing her character.
I feel embarrased with her performance ; old girl tries hard to
look sexy...

ｗｈｙ

test post, hurray!

Of course, when you hear it in doramas, it usually signals that by
the end of the show, the guy that said that is going to end up with the
girl he said it to (if he's the hero of the story).
----------------
These sentenses are too complicated. Would someone explain the composition
and rearrange these?

>>685
Just perusing my collection, I'd say you're darn right about that.

米人, if you're having trouble again google "htspt shld" (fill in the missing letters)
and it should be the first link. It's easy to install and use (don't install the toolbar extra).
Just run it before coming here and make sure to quit the program afterwords.

>>690
Sometimes you'll need to try many times before you get a connection that works.
Make sure you copy+paste whatever you've written before hitting the button...

These sentenses are too complicated. Would someone explain the composition
and rearrange these?
------------------
Plus I don't know the exact difference between these and them.
Should I have said "rearrange them" instead of "these"?
and why?

>>689
I watch a lot of Japanese dramas (doramas).
I enjoy them, and use them to practice my listening skills (maybe).

I've noticed that in some doramas, the lead guy will tell some poor
girl, "I don't see you as a woman." Her feelings are terribly hurt.
But by the end of the show, they will be a couple.

Annotated Sentences:
Of course, when you hear it in doramas (When you hear the phrase "I don't see
you as a woman" in a television drama),
it usually signals that by the end of the show (later on in the show what happens is),
the guy that said that (=the hero)
is going to end up with (become the boyfriend of)
the girl he said it to (the one he doesn't see as a woman).

>>690
Thank you!
Nice to have some people around who know what they're doing...

>>693
>the guy that said that (=the hero)

Are you sure? I think "that" means "I don't see you as a woman," not
"the hero."

If you just meant to explain by the line that "the guy" means "the hero"
sorry about my post.

>>692
"rearrange them" is correct.

"these" is the plural of "this" and it's used like "kono"
with a noun to indicate a certain thing close to the speaker
this man....these men....kono otoko no hito
"that" and "those" (plural) are more like sono or ano (we don't distinguish
between the two in English):
that man (over there)....those men....sono/ano otoko no hito

"them" is a third person pronoun in the position of object:
Did you see them? Give them my regards.
In the position of subject, use "they":
They weren't at the party. Why didn't they go?

>>695
I'm sorry that I was unclear.
guy=hero
that="I don't see you as a woman".

>>696
Thank you for the quick reply.
You don't usually use "these " solely as object and complement?
"These" can be used as subject, can't it?
Like "These are my friends."
When you introduce something first , Is "these" admitted to use solely?
When you refer "them" the second time, should you refer to "them"
as "they"?

"These are my friends. They want a tour. May I show them around?"
"Sure. Have fun."
These are whole example sentences from a web dictionary.

Maybe "these" can be an object if it's introduced first, can't it?

Like "I like these".

>>693
Oh, thanks sounds clear.
"that that" "end up with(in above case, "end up with" does not mean the ende of a love but
the start of a new love"), abbreviation of objective of "to"
made me confused.

>>693
I watch a lot of Japanese dramas.
I enjoy them,
and use them
[ to practice my [ listening ] skills ].
I've noticed
[ that in some doramas, the lead guy will tell some poor girl,
"I don't see you as a woman."
Her feelings are terribly hurt.
But by the end of the show, they will be a couple.

Annotated Sentences:
Of course,
[ when you hear hear the phrase "I don't see you as a woman" in a television drama ],
it usually signals
[ that later on in the show [ what happens ] is
the guy [ that said〜

>>692
Yes, you can use "this", "that", and less often "these" and "those"
to introduce something or refer to something mentioned before.
This is my friend. That was the best idea. Those aren't ready yet.
And you can also use "this" or "that" as an object.
Take this. What was that?
But using "these" or "those" as an object doesn't sound quite right.
"Them" sounds better.
I know them. I've seen them many times.
Although you can probably find an example where someone uses "these" or
"those" as an object. Maybe it's a choice of style.

>>702
Thank you.
When something appeared in front of your eyes and you
took fancy to it, can you say "I like these"?
Cos "them" sounds already known things or facts to me.
Is "I like these (something)" is the best and "I like these" the second best?

Libera is awesome..

>>685
I'm not at all a habitual listener of music,
but popular Japanese songs today do not necessarily have embedded in them
the three words, namely 世界、夢、好き.

ttp://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=6xPwlsFlZ9o

ttp://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=wU5zJnrg8co

The following is the song I like best.
(夢 can be found in this song,
but, alas, the latter part, in which the word is contained, is curtailed in the clip.)
ttp://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=13MFFZukHVA

Emily (nhk English teacher) is amazingly beautiful.
Even the most attractive woman couldn't even compete with her in beauty and charm..

>>706
It's just that she is your type.
I don't think she's that attractive. I admit she is on the beautiful end
among girls, though.

>>707
Really? Sincerly I'm being surprised to read know your opinion.
I even think I wouldn't mind abondoning everything I have if I could be with her!

Well, I realized that different people have different opinions.

Are you >>139?
Her make up and clothes are too simple for me.
If she was a little bit more sexy, then she would be my type.

>>709
Oh, if she starts to appeal to viewers by emphasizing sexuality, I may be disappointed.
A person with honest nature is my taste.
Incidentally, surely it's me who wrote >>139.
You have a good memory.

>>710
Yeah, she sure looks like a nice and sincere woman.

I'm the one who put the link to the NHK's webpage on this thread so
I remember you. lol

>>711
I got it!

My worry is that she will be seduced by a bad guy.

>>712
I understand how you feel about her as her fan.
But even if she was seduced by a bad guy and hurt, she'd learn something
from the experience and move on.

Looking for a happy ending (starting?) story when two fetishes meet?
This is how it goes.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20090124f1.html

>>714
She's too beautiful for him.
I hope they'll broke up while Laura's staying in Japan.

>>715
Maybe they're moving to America so they won't.
Anyway, Japan Times sucks, it doesn't allow you to copypaste a single line.
I liked this one:

"Ever since Haruki Imaoka watched the popular American TV series "Beverly Hills, 90210,"
he had dreamed of marrying a good-looking Western girl. When he went to Los Angeles for college,
he met local resident Laura Beltz in May 2004, and they hit it off right away."

I hope it works out.

>>716
He made his dream come true.

She lived in LA and has lower mental barrier against Asian man than
average American women, I guess and she must love things Japanese.
Although nothing is mentioned in the article about her fetish to things Japanese.

>>717
Probably she's pretty much fed up with Japan now, if you read too much into it, but who knows.
But anyway, they look nice together so hopefully things go easy on them there.

>>714
What a beautiful woman she is.
Even if you say to someone that she is a hollywood movie star, I guess he wouldn't doubt it!
On the other hand, the Japanese man looks like just a typical university student!!

Lalooooooooooooooooooo.n...La..,.,,,laloooooooooooooooooonn,,.,.,...

But haruki can't have a role in biverlyhill's something, can he?
Does he acknowledge this fact?
Is he going to play a role of a cleaning man or something in pseudo
James Dean home? Wrinkled and big-headed James Dean.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20090124f1.html
At first glance, he looked like korean. He is mesmerizing just as
korean here pointed out.
He came from Osaka. No wonder.

This is just a test

>>706
I've confounded your Emily with Emily on youtube.
I got perplexed.
Now I can understand.

I love Pandas.

I wonder if teenagers nowadays even know who James Dean is?

Probably, they're much more familiar with Jimmy Dean, and only because of his sausages.

>>726
You mean, teanagers in Japan?
I don't know about teenagers but he's well known in Japan.
Many people here have heard of his name even if they don't know exactly
who he is. Teenagers who are rebels are always popular among girls in any day and age.

I'm in my thirties and the first American who I thought very hansome was
Paul Newman, who died recently. I was a kid and he was in Japanese companies
CM on TV. He was short but still, he was cool.

BUt Alain Delon, a French actor was more popular than him.

>>727
You have no taste for guys.

If a man cannot take notice of that excellency and perfection that is in himself, how can he be thankful to God,
who is the author of all excellency and perfection? Nay, if a man hath too mean an opinion of himself,
it will render him unserviceable both to God and man. Pride may be allowed to this or that degree,
else a man cannot keep up his dignity.
John Seldon (1584-1654), "Table-Talk"

>>726
Wasn't his characters based on James Dean?
He in the drama was naive and lonely, fighting always with his father
but not a bad guy at the bottom of his heart.
(Don't get me wrong. I've never watched the drama through. I have watched
the drama for a while changing channnels.)
And apparently from his face, hair styrle and his manner.

James Dean is still somewhat the icon of youth, rebel and innnocence
in Japan. His name is quite as famous as Beatles. I don't know how
much he is popular. It's also true that his stereotype is well-known
and has been misinterpreted as bad boy.

I'm not sure of memory. But I feel like having said something like "He was
a James Dean" to my mother jokingly. Although My mom must have acknowled
the apparent similarity, she did show little interest in him and said somethin like
"He is not" with a sneer on her face.
She must have been thinking Real James Dean is much better.

http://www.libertyfilmfestival.com/libertas/wp-content/james-dean03.jpg
Real James was more noble, cute and bringing out motherly insticts.

"James Dean" in the drama was too old to act a james deanesque school boy
,aside from other factors.

The fundamental delusion of humanity is to suppose that I am here and you are out there.

Yasutani Roshi

Quote of the day

"Slim Shady is in all of us."

---Emin3m & イギリス人-----

>Pride may be allowed to this or that degree, else a man cannot keep up his dignity.
In other words?

>>733
I've seen a rap? group who was singing the same as eminem
last night on tv kanagawa.
Listen around from 2:19.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=fjnrsmNEyJg
Laughable. Eminem is now becoming a standard and history?
Eminem usually disgusts me.
But I felt that song is not bad. It was relaxing and giving me a
peace of mind.

>>735
The rap of the band is similar to that of this tune by emin3m melodywise.

I haven't eaten kimchi in a while.

Don't eat Kimuti rest of your life.

Weimegthnn ZZZZZoo..---midduagger/ listning pooolhoshgourikiith.
Minn.Yorrkk avanndunn piesta goolman.
Potgth seea zoqth. Wuixvh arggqin Missoniquall ordderaxon.
Rrhlithtain becotyolrun besec rgrv Zostainn.

>>730
James Dean became a legend when he died young. He was posthumously nominated for two
Oscars (didn't win though).
Wow, in some ways this is strangely similar to Heath Ledger's story. Minus the car accident.

>>727
Paul Newman! What a loss--everyone loved him here.
Alain Delon has acted in some American movies, but he isn't so well known here.
I don't think I've ever seen one of his movies.

Today the kids are home from school because of a snow storm. It has just started
snowing here, and by the time it ends later today, we should have 6-10 inches
of snow.

>>740
Wow, what a heavy snow! It's not exaggerated to say it's a disaster.
If there is a good aspect of it,
it may be that you can enjoy a splendid view when you lift a curtain and see outside
through the window tomorrow.

How about your children now? I guess he is very happy since he finds there is no need to
bother to attend classes.

Sorry to interrupt!
Is there someone who likes BRIDGET FONDA?
I love her for long years.
I was highly impressed by her good figure,
when I first watched the movie ASSASSIN.
She has not only a neat face but also a slight body.
From then on I have been a great fan of her.
Regrettably, I don't know her recent activities.
Shoud you find any information, let me know.

>>742
Sorry, I have utterly no information about her though I want to be of help to you.

Did anyone watch Fedor vs Arlovski?

>>742
She married the well known composer Danny Elfman (he writes many
film scores), had a son and is home with her family.
She hasn't made a film since she got married.

I heard Paul Newman became a good jew a few months ago.

>>746

A good jew? He was born to a Jewish father and a Catholic mother and
described himself as a Jew.

>>747
The only good jew is a.....

He must have been a bad one. What did he do?

One of my teachers a while back was a Korean woman. She was incredibly nice, energetic,
intelligent.

From what she told me, she also teaches Japanese students who study abroad and stuff. When
she first began teaching one group of them, she noticed that many of them were being quite cold
to her so she asked, "Why are you being so rude to me?!" (or something to that extent) and their
general response was, "because you are Korean."

I think you guys should know that not all Koreans are like the Mr Perfect Korea spammer who posts
here.

>>750
> "because you are Korean."

It's hard to believe the Japanese students reacted like that.
Maybe they were talking in Japanese or in low level English, so you expanded your
imagination and thought the Japanese were rude.

Japanese people never see Koreans as a rival. Even if some Japanese people
don't like Koreans, they wouldn't express their dislike in public.
If your story is true, it's just that the those Japanese are a group of
idiots.

>>750
Oh, how rude they are. I doubt their sense of moral.

I think they just wanted to hurt someone and her nationality was good excuse for them to attack.

I thought the Korea spammer was actually a Japanese guy? Are you sure he's a real Korean?
I highly doubt it.

>>753
He is not anything else but a Korean who hate Japan.

By the way, can above sentense make sense ?
I wanted to say 〜以外の何者でもない in Japanese.

>>750
I think you're completely right in that you should know not all the Japanese
are like what you imagine the Japanese are like based on one personal
anecdote you've heard before. I don't question your teacher's capability, though.

>>750
Attitudes towards Japanese and (white) Americans could change.
I am curious why she abruptly started a story to lower japanese image.

Or japanese students might have been unhappy with non
native speaker and said "Korean" as the meaning
of non-native speaker because they aspired to learn English and
American culture from native English speakers.

There might be a gap between student's anticipation and that teacher's
anticipation too. She may have thought she should have been admired by Japanese but
Japanese students looked rude contrary to her anticipation while japanese
students may have thought she was rude and her story and manner was
violent and rude.

I guess it's unthinkable for japanese to accuse Korean and name
it in front of them just because they are just koreans.

Genelizaton is dangerous. But beliving in what she says as face value
is unfair too.

I remember a korean-japanese fighter who nearly killed sakuraba
kazushi with the violation of a rule. He spread oil all over his body and beated
sakuraba. Sakuraba again and again shouted "he slips"
but sakuraba's claims were dismissed during the whole fight.
Akiyama made silly exuses afther the fight.
He first claimed he was hyperhidrosis. After the body cream was detected,
he started to say he was dry skin and used the cream for the dry skin.
He had had a long record of rule violations in Judo. He was warned
a couple of times for his judo uniform's slipness He made excuses that
he used detergent too much...
Now he seems to publish a book including the accusation of Japanese
for their racism.
People sometimes go beyond our common sense.
Akiyama is definitely strong guy but lacks in bushido or chivalry.
He is coward and mean, liar.

Akiyama has many japanese friends and must be generous to them.
Guy like kiyohara kazuhiro kept on supporting him despite his bad manner.

I'm not saying that a korean teacher is like akiyama though.

>>753
He knows things the japanese usually don't know. And he doesn't know
things the japanese usually know.

I like him. He is funny. I don't take him seriously.

Here these are!

Libera Songs of Praise Special

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=xIvnY_ZH1Yg&feature=related

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=DJlpc9AmPZY

>>743>>745
Thank you for your replies!
>She hasn't made a film since she got married.
It was unlucky.
In a sense, however, I was relieved to hear that because
she seemed a unfortunate woman.
I guess She is surely a brilliant mother!

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

What PhD does Dr. Dre have?

I know Prom isn't for eveyone and some students don't even participate in
the event to save money.

But just out of curiusity, have you ever participated in Prom?
How was that? Are you going to participate in the event?
Do you have someone in mind to ask to go to the event together?

Hoppi doo! Hoppi doo baheeda!! Hoppi doo baheeda!

I'm sorry. I will never come to this thread again.

Which is better,
what gorgeous dinner!
or
what a gorgeous dinner?
Native speakers, please?

>>766
Hi, Kazu how are you doing?
I'm not a native one, but "what a gorgeous dinnner" is better, I think.

I'm doing super!
I'm watching Mamma Viva in the theatre this weekend.

Which is better,
what gorgeous dinner!
or
what a gorgeous dinner?
Native speakers, please?

I had no shortage of onapets during all my life on the masturbation.
For instance, Kim Yu-na, Sekimori Hinowa, and OshitaYoko … etc.
Especially, Sekimori Hinowa is my gorgeous onapet , and I massage my penis like a mad beast while watching her photograph.
To put it a little more personlly, I intensely imagine the scene that Hinowa fights against Kagari.
Do You know Hinowa? She is a female boyish-character that appears in the Manga "Usio and Tora".

ＢＡＤ　ＢＯＹ！！！　ｂｙ　bald-HIRO
　　　　　　　　　　

>>768
>>769
Troll, troll, stay gone forever!

Neva gonna give neva gonna give, give you up
We've known aech other, for so long, yo heart's been enking buh
you're too shy to say,
It's aye whit be want on what's been goin on, we know the gamer where, gonna wee
Aaaah just wanna tell you how I'ma feeling, gonna make you understand

Neva gonna give you up, neva gonna let you down, neva gonna ruh nue rounden, desert you
Neva gonna make you cry, neva gonna say good bye, neva gonna tell a lie, and hurt you

I love anaｒchism and chaos.

>>756
I totally agree with you.

One thing I don't understand is, that "students being cold to a teacher" thing would work against the students, wouldn't it?
If they do exist, and if I met those students in question, I would like to ask them what had really happened between them (the teacher and the students).

>>773
You wanted to Rick Roll us?

>>760
Check the name of her husband.

>>770
When I googled Sekimori Hinowa on google image, the first image
that came was a picture of a narcissist, mentally ill, paranoid Japanese
English teacher I keep away from.
I once had a suspicion that kataoka and kintama was the same person.
Their English style was kind of similar. English level were not
good or excellent, but still so-so level among Japanese English learners.
They are both perverts.
Someone spoke out they were identical in this thread(I'm not sure
of which thread) and my suspicion deepened.

However, gradually kintama's humble attitude to English and rather good personality
were becoming to seem different from kataoka's ones.
Kataoka has been so confident and delusional in contrast with his
actual level.
Somewhere I stopped my suspicion.
Now I start to suspect them again. That was too good to be a coincidence...

Kataoka mentioned Sekimori Hinowa and usio to tora before.

By the way Can I ask a question?
I think "Not A or B" is mostly interpreted as the form of Not (A or B).
But can it sometimes be misinterpreted or interpreted as the form of (Not A) or B?

To avoid ambiguity, are there usages like "neither A nor B" and "not A nor B"?

>>758
I assume that you are the Mr. Perfect. You just know too much about him.

sparky4 needs clothes?

What happened to our last hero Sparky? Haven't seen him around lately.

test

I'm having a lot of trouble getting this to work so I can only post when I get lucky...

>>763
My school's prom is in May and I'll probably go, unless my friends and I decide we
want to do our own thing. Not sure on the date situation yet, but I have time.

Did you get your date?

>>769
"What a gorgeous dinner" is correct.

>>785
2ch keeps blocking other proxies.... fight a good fight.
What would happen if the same girl were asked to plural men to go to
the party? First come, first served basis? Or She could change her
partner at the last minuite?

School prom is scheduled at the date of graduation ceremony?
Do you go to school prom in dress and tuxedo?

>>763
I don't know how it is now, but way back when, a girl would not be able to
break the date once she accepted. So she would be taking a chance if she
turned someone down in the hopes that a boy more to her liking would ask her.
Although sometimes girls asked boys to go (I did my senior year).
Most people just went as friends unless they were already dating.

>>780
I think most people would read "not A or B" as "not (A or B)" although
you do meet some people whose minds work differently than most others.
"Neither A nor B" is unambiguous.

Ugh, one of my housewife friends just told me I have to join Facebook.
Apparently everyone is doing that now.
I'm too lazy to keep up a web page. The thought of accumulating on-line
"friends", posting pictures (assuming I could find a decent one), posting
comments on other people's pages, god forbid blogging, I don't wanna do it...

Re >>790
>>763 was meant for >>788
>>789
Yes, formal dress (used to be long) and the guys wear a (rented) tux.
In my day they would sometimes get a pastel one that matched the girl's dress.
Pretty silly looking!
Thank heavens, I think they go for black now.

Even geeks and nerds go to school prom?
Then ugly girl like Carrie is gonna get pig blood from the bucket
above.

Is prom kind of burden and pressure for students?
Guys of columbine type must be hating it.

>>790
Thank you! you are the most reliable person here!
How do you say when you want to describe the condition
of (not A) or B?

Actually I'm both 780 and 789.

>>790
I thought only couples can join Prom.
I imagine it would be kind of miserable if no men asked you to go to the prom.
I'm a man but I was even more shy as a student so it'd have been
impossible to ask a girl to go to Prom.

I heard facebook is more real life oriented than Myspace and its equivelants.
So you don't have to worry about being bugged about "cyber" friends.
Facebook is something to strengthen relationship with "real" friends online
as far as I know.

If you don't care how they are doing when you are physically away from
your real friends, then there's no point in joining Facebook.

>>790
Is it a daily thing for teenage girls to show cleaveage from the
dress front?
I'm not sure but I think I saw that kind of fashion in
drama and movie.
The fashion looked too much for kids.

By the way, Japanese are the most unsuitable tribe for
tuxidos and swallowtails.
It's a tradition that a minister and his ministers dress up
in tuxidos and dress at cabinetmaking.
http://byfiles.storage.msn.com/y1pp2XmzZMLzgH1gaRpZ8ksSLBivWvCvMUWFcppRD91pZ9rFoyjppOq1mtIbZbC2LcD
They should quit the tradition. They look like clowns.

Sorry a prime minister and his ministers.

SGT keroro

I didn't go to my school's prom because I was sick... but I attended a few other dances.
The dance itself wasn't anything special. The parties afterward were sometimes pretty good,
though.

>>798
having orgy?

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=i342kN_gNlw
米人 was the side of pulling a string attached to a bucket.

>>800
No, she's the prom queen and a homecoming queen.
She's Miss Connecticut, too.

Moyashi is a new healthy food for all ages.
We were founded in 1980 in Japan.
Now, our association has grown in the United States and EU.
As recorded in the US, some studies show their obesity percentage has increased from 13% to 32% from the year 1960 to 2004 respectively.
Now, more and more people realize being healthy is paramount.
Many restaurants that aren’t Japanese or Chinese restaurants serve Moyashi now.
Several studies reveal that Moyashi is one of the healthiest foods in the world and very good for a balanced diet.
Our association urges you and your family to get acquainted with this new kind of food and experience the variety of its recipes.
We are hoping that you will start serving Moyashi on your dinner table.

>>792 >>801
I went, but they didn't drop pig blood on me or anyone else.
It was really quite tame.
The after party consisted of a big slumber party at someone's house for
our group of friends. Not an orgy, BTW.

>>794
Only couples go, but sometimes a group of male and female friends would
pair off and go as a group--didn't matter who ended up with whom.

>>795
They look so cute! Like they're on their way to their daughter's wedding.

>>801
Only in my dreams. I was more the plain looking girl who got good
grades.

Is Chimpanzee cute animal in the US?
Fukuda was called chimpanチンパン 首相 in 2ch.
Black are said to chimp out instead of gorilla out.
Why?

>>793
This is hard...the choice is between not-A and B?
Isn't that the same as A+B or not-A+not-B?
Brain circuits frying,,,,,

>>794
I understand now about Facebook! It seems that would be best for high
school and college friends who eventually are separated. Not people you
see frequently--like my friends here in town.
I write or e-mail my out-of-town friends.

>>802
I already eat bean sprouts. Alfalfa sprouts too.

This is hard...the choice is between not-A and B?
---------------------------
Yes.
Not (not A and B) must be true. But it is too complicated and
like a logic problem.

Not (not A and B) includes the case of (A and B).
I may have been wrong.
Not (A or B) inculuds the case of both A and B
besides Not A and Not B in strict
logical sense.
I heard English is more logical word than Japanese.
But daily usage seems to be different from logics.

Then (Not A) or B seems to indicate a choice between (not A) or B
and right in logical thinking.
Pretty complicated. lol

(Not A) or B includes the case of (Not A) and B in logics...
Not (A or B) explicitly mean (not A and not B) in logics.
Daily English usage is right. I'm not sure thoug.
I feel ashamed.
I should forget about logics...

Now I feel I come to understand why English speakers use
either A or B.
Either has been a mystery for me for a long time.
A or B seems to be used interchangeably with either A or B.
But A or B includes the case of (A and B) in logics.
Perhaps to avoid misunderstanding, Americans use either A or B.

I've got to go!!

I am sick at the stomach.
I really want to quit my part-time job.
The reason is that I somehow can't used to the atmospher of my office.
All colleagues except me are on the regular employees.
One of them is mean to me.
I am mentally exhausted.

>>片岡数吉
Sukichi-kun , Have you ever mentioned about Sekimori Hinowa and Usio and Tora ?
I learned it reading >>779 on this thread.
I didn't unexpect that Sukichi-kun knew Sekimori Hinowa.
Sukichi-kun, Do you like Sekimori Hinowa? Sukichi-kun, Have you ever made Sekimori Hinowa your onapet?
Sukichi-kun, Do you think which is strong Sekimori Hinowa or Kagari?

>>812
Imagining your situation in the office, I can't help feeling sympathy with you.
I think you should build so-so relationship with one of them, or your
mental burden may be reduced slightly.

Well, your situation that your colleagues are all regular workers must be very stressful.
I think it's like mental training. Good luck!

>>812
If I were you, I would quit the job or look for another job as doing the shit job.
If the job is not what you really want to do, look for another job.
Then, when you leave your office kick mean one's ass for good bye.
It makes you feel relief.
good luck.

>>813
Google "Sekimori Hinowa" on google image and click upper leftest
image.
Ahhhhh, maybe kataoka did his usual task to analize other's
sentences indiscrimately?

The reason [ why many Japanease read the Mangas ] is
[ that they want to read "Usio and Tora" ].
This Manga is Fujita Kazuhiro's work,
and Sekimori Hinowa [ who appears in this work ] is popular now.

Are these sentenced what you wrote?

Anyway, I was glad to know you were as usual, pervert, very original
pervert.

upper leftmost was much better.

Megurine Luka was released yesterday.
I suppose she is good at singing modestly than the other vocaloids.
That's how she made it to deal with the oldie song like the carpenters.
Could she be a good english speaker to native speaker?
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5994396

>>814>>815
Thank you for your kind consideration!
Even if the world is in the serious depression,
I will make the best of changing my job!
There is no need to be indecisive disposition, isn't there?

>>804
I really don't think they would take even the slightest risk of being labeled "racist" to answer your question.

Enjoy your last day of January.

Are you returnees ?

February! fucking Feb come up!

This Onion article is too priceless for me not to post it here: ttp://www.theonion.com/content/news/asian_teen_has_sweaty_middle_aged

>>819
Are you like a part-time salaryman?

>>824
That's a good one.lol There's a bunch of スポーツ新聞's that carry gossip and nonsense articles in Japan, too.
That sort of satirical stuff reminds me of "The Satanic Verses" for some reason.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Verses
The Japanese language translator was murdered, but recently the statute of limitations legally expired in Japan.
I guess you'd have to know who you can and cannot mess with if you wanted to publish something like that,
'cause some just can't take a joke.

I saw the movie "Taken" tonight. Really fuckin' good. If you don't know, it
is about a retired secret agent of the U.S. whose daughter is kidnapped by a
human sex slave traffickers. The agent has around 96 hours to find and save his
daughter before she gets lost forever in the European underworld.

Just great. The guy has some hilarious, but awesome ways to kill and knock people
out. As the movie progresses, the agent (whose name I never took note of) gets more
and more brutal in his investigation as time goes on. He turns into a heartless butcher
before it all ends, but I left really satisfied.