Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 123

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1名無しさん@英語勉強中
Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 123
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( ´・ω・) Let's have Peppermint tea and chat!
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Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 122
http://academy6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1228921244/

Hey!!! you NEETs, nerds, YouTube-link spammers, pedophiles, neo-Nazis,
Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers, Part-Time-Preachers,
Diplomats' spoiled sons, losers who can't remember Kanji characters,
Big-boobs fans, Weeaboos from all around the world, learners of Japanese
who are too lazy to update their Japanese blogs very often, and cunning
linguists. And let's celebrate the comeback of the Internet-addicted
housewife!

Here is the place to have a blast!!!!!
2名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 12:20:29
>>1
Thanks. Good Job!
3名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 12:21:17
****** Quick guide to Americans here *******

* keira=robotintokyo (California)
A woman who once announced that she'd start vlogging. She went to buy a webcam but the
nearest shop is on the north pole, and she hasn't come back yet. Maybe attacked by
a porlar bear or now ended up living in Greenland. She might be robotingreenland now.
"robotintokyo" is a part of her blog's URL.

* ベイエリア人 (California)
A man who claims he leads a reclusive lifestyle. Nice man who answeres
to our questions in another thread. His dream is to bungee jump from the
Golden Gate bridge.


* tennessian (Tennessee)
A man who loves Japanese culture and wants to go out with Japanese exchange students
in his university. The winner of the 28th Elvis impersonator contest.
His favorite CD is House remix of Elvis's tunes.
Devoted Dixie Chicks fan.

* アメリカ人 (Chicago)
Man with panty fetish. His goal is to get full schalorship from one of the IV League
universities or USC, scientology or scatology major.
Learning Japanese but not so serious about it.
When he gets nervous before an exam, he sniffs his host sister's panty to relax.
It's said that lots of bras and panties were gone when he left his host
family's house. He knows how to choose the best and ideal host family to stay with.
His advice to students who wants to homestay in Japan is that the first thing they have
to do on arriving host family's home is to make sure where the washing machine is.
Cheerful and outgoing.
4名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 12:22:18
* crystal (California)
ESL teacher wannabe. Kind enough to answer our English questions. Loves
Japanese pop culture. A tad more serious than アメリカ人 but not so serious
about studying Japanese. She loves Japan and things Japanese but draws a fine line
between weeaboos and herself. Thinks it's a good idea to live in Japan but not
longer than one year. She believes that being away from her boyfriend for such a
long time deteriorates their relationship. Loves to play catch with her mom.
She loves spicy hot Orochon ramen noodles. She likes it in spicy level 7.
(extremely hot)

* jook (california)
Tech-savvy. Nobody knows more about the US cell phone industry than him.
He's so tech-savvy that he can text message or give a call even when his cell phone
is turned off. Nice enough to answer our English questions here and in another thread.
Loves to sleep with his girlfriend behind his parents' eyes.
Desperate to shave his girlfriend's pubic hair.
Bean sprouts are his favorite ramen topping and he even grows them in his room.
He calls himself 男伊達.(dandy guy)

*【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】ミ田 (Louisiana)
A boy also known as Sparky who lives only in cyber space. Sometimes you have a feel
that it's easier to communicate with cats and dogs than him. Some says he's a gifted troll
but he insists he's gifted in science and math. Administrator of deserted image boards.
It's said that his Windows Me PC calculates 4 times faster than IBM's Deep Blue.
5名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 12:23:56
* 米人(Boston)
Red Sox fan. Lived for a year in a rehabilitation facility to cure her
Internet addiction. Now she has developed game addiction and every time
she spots her kids playing Guirtar Hero, she snatches the console from them
and plays it on her own. Actually, she ties them up with ropes and kicks them away into
the closet until she finishes playing the game. She loves chatting here more than
taking care of her family. She's nice enough to give some good advice to learners of
Japanese. Besides, she is greatly admired as virtual mom by posters here.
Her quality time is when she reads Boston Globe over coffee on a beautiful Sunday morning,
with her husband and kids locked in the closet.

* Ether (Florida)
Has travelled to Japan. Taller than 6 feet and blond. Drives a jaloppy.
There's a framed photo of two sumo wrestlers he saw during his vist to Japan on the wall
of his room. His penis was bitten off by a gigantic aligator while he was taking a nap
naked in the backyard. His mom is on the FBI's missing people's list.
On the day he saw her last, he saw a huge alligator with its stomach
swollen disappearing into a swamp.

* Captain Spicard (Florida)
Born in NY. Guardian of Sparky. He came all the way from 4chan to take him back to his
original playground. The author of "Training and Taming Sparky for Dummies." Doesn't give
a shit about studying Japanese but doesn't mind helping Japanese English learners.
He's a pro websurfer with 13 web browsers installed. Atheist.
(Rumor has it that he gets extremely excited when he opens a window of his advent calender
every morinig.)
6名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 12:25:40
* linger (Massachusetts)
Born and raised in Massachusetts.
Nice enough to answer questions about English.
He claims he has a 3.76 college GPA.
He doesn't give a damn about learning Japanese. Spanish is the only language he's
interested in learning. His goal in life is becoming an illegal immigrant in Mexico or Spain.

* firestar
Devoted fan of Mac laptop PC with multi-touch trackpad.
His major is computer information sciences.
He has installed 2ch browser, meaning ready to get addicted to 2ch.
Loves netsurfing with a subway sandwitch in his mouth.

<Other nationalities>

* イギリス人(UK)
Foreigners come and go but he is the longest term resident here.
Diplomat's spoiled sun. He has lived in several countries as a child and now he has no clues
where he's from. He's nice and sincere enough to answer even stupid English questions.
He's been lurking since he got a job in web design. (He's busy.) He was working on making
a new breed of PC virus to spread around the world on on Christmas but he ended up getting
infected with flu virus. He knows quite a lot about Japanese TV shows and movies.
He is a great cook. He loves to bake a chocolate cake.
Every wall in his room is covered with posters of 広末涼子. (Ryoko Hirosue)

* スウェーデン人(Sweden)
He used to frequent this thread but now he doesn't seem to be able to access to 2ch.
2ch has been denying accesses from Sweden or of people with se. IP address.
His English proficiency is almost perfect and was nice enough to answer questions of us
English learners. He's thinking about studying in university in Japan.
7名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 12:26:08
8名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 12:56:23
Biography is being expanded!!
9【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 13:17:42
me see mine is more data
umm guys.......................
http://4chan.b33r.net/my%20pictures/+/Jam307.jpg
http://4chan.b33r.net/my%20pictures/+/Jam308.jpg
http://4chan.b33r.net/my%20pictures/+/Jam312.jpg
http://4chan.b33r.net/my%20pictures/+/Jam313.jpg
meeee
http://4chan.b33r.net/my%20pictures/+/Jam315.jpg

crappy close up
http://4chan.b33r.net/my%20pictures/+/Jam316.jpg
(this Is what i got)
http://4chan.b33r.net/my%20pictures/+/Jam318.jpg
http://4chan.b33r.net/my%20pictures/+/Jam317.jpg

unbelievable
i found this in North-Louisiana
at the Mall
o_o
this stuff is rare rare rare rare in North Louisiana

i read 1½ chapters of Yotsuba&!
i must say
IM HAPPY NOW!
Which is weird.
10【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 13:26:00
This is a very powerful Anti Depressant
11名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 13:29:55
>>9
You found these Japanese mangas in North-Louisiana ??
12名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 13:31:44
Mellow out, sparky
13【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 13:38:58
>>11
they reached all the way over here in one place.
yes
i found it
IT WAS AN ASTRONOMICAL DISCOVERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111

>>12
????
before high school
i was happy
and sparky
but the negitive enviorment made me a suicidle psycho.
yeah
14【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 13:40:09
>>13
>but the negitive enviorment of the high school made me a suicidle psycho.
fix'd

15名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 13:46:24
>>13
I can understand your astonishment, considering how
conservative people there are.

That's the reason why you thought it was an astronomical discovery, isn't it !?!?
16firestar:2008/12/13(土) 13:55:33
mr sparky, is finding manga really so rare where you are?
do you not have a Best Buy or a Boarders Books near you?
17【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 13:56:06
http://academy6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1228921244/1000
im going to kill you............................................
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 |  ||__|)(Д´ #4) <1000キタ━━━━━━ヾ(ヾ^ヮ^)(^ヮ^ノ)ノ━━━━━━!!!!
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 |    | ( ./     /
18名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 13:58:26
I CAN SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I CAN SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I CAN SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I CAN SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I CAN SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
19【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 13:59:33
>>15
yes thats the reason why
>>16
best buy
the computer store?
boarder books???????????????????????????????????????????
never heard of it
 / || ̄ ̄|| ∧_∧
 |  ||__|)(ヮ^   4) <999キタ━━━━━━ヾ(ヾ^ヮ^)(^ヮ^ノ)ノ━━━━━━!!!!
 | ̄ ̄\三⊂/ ̄ ̄ ̄/
 |    | ( ./     /
20【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 14:00:08
>>18
that is REAL spam
21【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 14:01:47
>>16
 / || ̄ ̄|| ∧_∧ <yes, why yes it is.
 |  ||__|)(ヮ^   4) <キタ━━━━━━ヾ(ヾ^ヮ^)(^ヮ^ノ)ノ━━━━━━!!!!
 | ̄ ̄\三⊂/ ̄ ̄ ̄/
 |    | ( ./     /
22名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:06:04
Do you guys use Amazon when you buy something?
23名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:07:14
I was gonna say you could buy them online too, but actually going out shopping
is much healthier and normal unless you're too busy or lazy.
I should go shopping.
24名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:07:43
>>14
That 'd apply to all people who go through such an painful experience in teenagehood.
But it won't do you any good to complain about where you are in now.
25firestar:2008/12/13(土) 14:07:52
>>22
i have never used amazon. yet anyhow. i don't spend much money. i dislike doing so.
26【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 14:10:47
it is strange because
the place were i found Yotsuba
Western films are right across the aisle.
and Hentai videos (2d and 3d) too..
............................................

and it comes with w
27名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:11:19
I have to apologize to Sparky for my having thought...

that your name was sparkly not sparky.
Why didn't you guy tell me that ?
I felt ashamed a lot...
28【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 14:12:18
>>27
thats ok ^^
me forgive

it is sparky4
as in the electrical spark
with a 4 at the end
29名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:13:11
Hi Sparky.
How's it going?
30【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 14:15:19
>>29
im actually happy now!
..................................................................................
it is laughter
the most powerful medicine
31名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:15:35
>>28
thanks ^^
32【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 14:17:45
See I'm not a troll!!!!

I was never one!
33名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:20:05
Hey sparky4.
It's written that you live in the cyber space.
That means you slipped out of the real world into the dark hole of the Internet, right?
I'm also the one. Seems we have a lot in common.
34【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 14:21:09
>>33
Internets, dark?
NOPE!
yes we do!
35名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:21:12
I have recognized that the meaning of troll is the 底辺 in Japanese.
How do you think about my interpretation ?
36名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:22:56
A troll is more like 荒らし in a forum on the internet I think.
37firestar:2008/12/13(土) 14:22:58
>>32
sparky don't be trolling them now
38【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 14:23:18
>>35
is it accurate?
39名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:23:48
>>34
Do you spend most of your day sitting in front of the computer?
And are you planning on doing something today other than that?

>>35
"Troll" means "荒らし" or 釣り" in Japanese, meaning fooling around.
40【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 14:24:12
>>37
do not know how!
and i never ever tried to do it!
41名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:24:43
>>36
Humm, thanks for your interpretation.
42【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 14:26:21
>>39
>Do you spend most of your day sitting in front of the computer?
yes
infact
i spend all day doing that
>And are you planning on doing something today other than that?
nothing to do in North Louisiana
43名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:30:40
I didn't know you live in North Louisiana.
Sounds like typical countryside in the U.S.
I heard that in the countryside, people's only hobbies are sex and/or internet.
44【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 14:31:06
i bought a poster
http://4chan.b33r.net/my%20pictures/!jpg/300.jpg
it is funny
45名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:34:02
>>44
Dine in hell? What does that imply?
46名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:34:23
>>39
Thanks.
Please let me say why I think the meaning of troll is 底辺 in Japanese.
There is a reason.
When I browsed a video on youtube, where I found a lot of comments to the owner.
They say `she is a troll` , `successfull troll is successfull` and somethng like that.
So, I thought troll means a person who has low intelligence and is low social position.
47firestar:2008/12/13(土) 14:38:10
>>45
dine in hell means to have dinner in hell
dine= to have dinner/to eat dinner
48アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/13(土) 14:40:06
>>45
It's from this movie: http://youtube.com/watch?v=wDiUG52ZyHQ
Wow, there have been a lot of new posts. Well, guess I missed out on today's fun and
now I have to go to bed early for a college interview tomorrow. Later y'all.
49名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:42:16
>>44
Probably that's means that we will give you pleasure things you don't expect in a hell, or something like that.
50名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:42:37
>>48
...I got up just now
and ta-ta for now
51名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:43:06
>>48
Take care.
52firestar:2008/12/13(土) 14:44:57
>>49
he is implying to his troops that they will die in the fight and go to hell that night
53名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:48:25
>>47
>>48
Thanks.
So it's like saying see you all in hell?
54【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 14:48:29
>>45
After the first official trailer of 300 was released, it immediately caught the attention of fagland. The two memes that spawned from this are TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL, and THIS. IS. SPARTA!!!

The original execution of the meme featured the movie's star either exclaiming "TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL" [1] or "GUYS, I FORGOT WHERE WE ARE DINING TONIGHT". Contrary to popular belief, the proper response is not 'Applebees' or 'Olive Garden'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu1KQtb6xuc
55firestar:2008/12/13(土) 14:52:24
>>53
pretty much yes.
56名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 14:55:27
>>54
OMG, you can write superb sentences.
I guess 'Applebees' or 'Olive Garden' is also part of the memes, right?
57【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 14:56:49
>>56
Copypasta
58firestar:2008/12/13(土) 14:57:42
>>56
what sparky is trying to say is that the lines in this trailer became an instant internet meme. there are many comical puns associated with the lines.
59名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 15:00:49
I have trouble staying at home all day.
In fact, being cooped up in my cramped little room drives me insane.
But I have nothing to do outside.
60【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 15:02:34
Messenger: This is blasphemy! This is madness!
King Leonidas: Madness...?
[shouting]
King Leonidas: THIS. IS. SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!
[Kicks the messenger down the well]
wwwwwwwwwww funny
61【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 15:04:58
>>58
yes ezactly
62名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 15:05:36
>>57 lol
>>58
Thanks, those responses are pretty funny considering how serious the lines sounds.
63【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 15:15:13
>>62
WHY so serious?

64firestar:2008/12/13(土) 15:19:33
>>63
this line is also a meme but it is from batman

sparky please don't be confusing them with strange 4chan slang that most people over here don't even get
65名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 15:19:36
>>63
They're all about to go onto the battlefield and likely to die there, right?
I assume that's not really a casual thing and therefore that line.
66【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 15:22:34
>>64
it is good to teach our international friends our culture
67名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 15:22:45
>>64
Sparky trolled me!!!
68【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 15:25:03
>>67
????
Thats Trolling?????????

....
69firestar:2008/12/13(土) 15:27:48
>>65
he is trying to rally his troops by implying that they will fight well and with out mercy until they die themselves; and that their battle will be so horrific that they will go to hell.
this is how well they will fight. so well that they will die and go to hell as punishment for being so brutal.
70【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 15:28:11
>>62 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 15:05:36
>>57 lol
>>58
Thanks, those responses are pretty funny considering how serious the lines sounds.
>Thanks, those responses are pretty funny considering how serious the lines sounds.
>considering how serious the lines sounds.
>considering how serious
>serious
This is why I said, "WHY so serious?".
71firestar:2008/12/13(土) 15:32:32
>>68
yes
72【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 15:38:02
>>71
....
i never knew
that

please let me know when i troll because
im not doing it on purpous

also

you were sopposed to laugh at
"WHY so serious? "
it was not a serious post
73名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 15:40:31
>>69
Thanks, I think I understand it's a morale booster that way.
>>72
I am furious now.
74【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 15:44:25
>>73
But i was not trying to make you mad
I was trying to make you laugh!
http://4chan.b33r.net/My%20Pictures/!JPG/y_____1169946544935.jpg
75【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 15:49:19
76【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 15:50:16
77名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 15:55:08
>>75-76
Is there such a girl around you ?
78名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 15:55:55
real girls? absolutely not.
79firestar:2008/12/13(土) 15:58:16
sparky you are still trolling. calm down. everyone is fine.
80名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 15:59:06
>>74
>>75
>>76
Stop doing that.
You are acting like a person who has not yet reached his teenage years.
81firestar:2008/12/13(土) 15:59:29
thousand seems to have crapped out on me. back to firefox i am
82【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 16:01:08
ok

83名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:09:40
Do you think they sell Zanpakutou?
I want one!!!!!!
84【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 16:16:02
new topic
about my number
4 (four) is a number, numeral, and glyph. It is the natural number following 3 and preceding 5. Four is the only number in the English language for which the number of letters in its name is equal to the number itself

The Chinese, the Korean and the Japanese are superstitious about the number four because it is a homonym for "Death" in their languages.
you mean: 四?
what about 13?
85【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 16:19:35
In cities where East Asian and Western cultures blend, such as in Hong Kong and Singapore, it is possible in some buildings that both 13 and 14 are skipped as floor numbers along with all the other 4's.
http://4chan.b33r.net/My%20Pictures/!JPG/facestairs.jpg
86名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:19:47
>>84
Speaking of 4, what do you think about Unohana? She's the Captain of the 4th squad, healers!!!
She is calm even when faced with a bunch of Arrancars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
87名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:22:16
>>84
>It is the natural number following 3 and preceding 5. Four is the only number
in the English language for which the number of letters in its name is equal to the number itself

That's right. You have affection to math ?
88【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 16:22:29
>>85
An elevator in a residential apartment building in Shanghai - floor numbers 4, 13 and 14 are missing.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/ShanghaiMissingFloors.jpg
sparky4's reaction: http://4chan.b33r.net/My%20Pictures/!JPG/EWXPLAIN.JPG
89【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 16:23:35
>>87
yes (*^-^*)
90名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:23:41
Oh, hey, Unohara's bankai looks wierd - a huge flat fish thing!!!!!
Its healing power is AMAZING, though!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
91名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:25:23
DO YOU WANT ME PUT LINKS TO BLEACH PICTURES!??????????????????
TELL ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
92名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:27:09
WE ARE ALL BLEACH FANS!!!!!!!!!!
BLEACH IS AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BLEACH RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JAPANESE MASTERPIECE MANGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
93名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:27:10
get the fuck out son of a bitch
94firestar:2008/12/13(土) 16:28:12
i see many trolls in here
95【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 16:31:23
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96名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:32:17
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97名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:32:51
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98名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:35:05
>>88
Ummm, it means the fifth foor is actually the fourth foor and the fifteenth foor
is actually theirteenth floor ?
Or, fourth floor has no residents ?
99名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:35:44
ONE OF MY FAVORITE BLEACH OP SONGS!!!!!!
LISTEN!!!!!!!!! BLEACH SONGS ARE FANTASTIC!!!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dq-zS4Vgvgw
100【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 16:36:40
101【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 16:37:59
102名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:38:01
Personally, I'd prefer the Korea spammer to this Bleach guy if I had to choose one.
103【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 16:39:12
>>102

it takes more than that to bug me!
104名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:39:33
>>99
I like the song, too.
Aqua Times is actually a good and nice band. I sometimes see them perform on TV.
And they are superb. Have you listened to their other songs?
105名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:39:56
>>100
actually CRTs are not that bad
I think you better buy a new PC though
106名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:41:05
>>101
The erotic manga made her blush!
107名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:41:27
>>104
OF COURSE!! I KNOW ABOUT SOME OF THEIR SONGS, BUT NOT TOO MUCH!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT WOULD YOU RECCOMMEND!!!!!!???????????
108【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 16:42:12
>>105
that crt is from 2006
109【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 16:43:18
>>106
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
RED CHERRY FACE!
110名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:44:20
WANT ME TO SHARE BLEACH EPISODES?
THERE ARE MANY ON YOUTUBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DO YOU WANT TO WATCH THEM??????
I'LL PUT LINKS HERE!!! COUNT ON ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
111【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 16:45:24
>>110
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112名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:45:39
>>108
but your resolution setiing is low, right?
113【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 16:46:40
>>108
yes of course!
http://4chan.b33r.net/My%20Pictures/jam322.jpg
this is a fact that this is a real compy
114名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:48:23
>>102
I don't think so.
This is a chat thread. We can talk whatever we like.
Bleach is surely nice. No wonder some people are impressed with the manga.
He's probably a fanatic. lol
115【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 16:50:24
>>114
you know i love comedy
116名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:50:58
>>114
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

YES!!!! BLEACH IS AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A LOT OF PEOPLE LOVE BLEACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
117firestar:2008/12/13(土) 16:52:40
i know people who read/watch bleach but i myself have not seen any of it.
118名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:53:16
>>114
Not exactly about the manga part but the Caps Lock part I guess.
Anyway, just a comparison for no reason.
119【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 16:53:34
>>116
>lol
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120名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:53:37
>>117
YOU ARE WASTING YOUR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL
121【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 16:55:58
>>116
>lol
    ∧_∧         GTFO >>120!!!       
    (4#`ヮ´)¬=ー,|━
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122名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:56:32
Are these sentenses gramatically correct ?

@Small bears are easier to keep in your house than big sneaks are.

AMobile phones are easier to carry with than PCs are.

The point of my question is below.
Should I 'Small bears are easier to be kept in your house than big sneaks are.'
instead of above one ?
Thank you for your help.
123名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 16:56:33
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
124【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 17:00:21
@Small bears are easier to keep in your house than big sneaks are.

AMobile phones are easier to carry with than PCs are.

http://4chan.b33r.net/My%20Pictures/!JPG/y!!!!NO.JPG

The small bears are easier to keep in your house than big (sneaks).WHAT IS THIS?

Mobile phones are easier to carry than PCs.
Fix'd
125名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 17:00:23
Oops, `should I write Small bears ...` is what I want to say.
Sorry!
126linger:2008/12/13(土) 17:00:36
Bleach is a rather bizarre name, isn't it?
127名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 17:01:21
MORE THAN 330 EPIS RELEASED ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU SHOULD START READING BLEACH NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
128【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 17:02:17
Should I write Small bears are easier to keep in your house than big (sneaks).WHAT IS THIS?

this sentence make no scene wwwwwwwwww
129linger:2008/12/13(土) 17:02:43
>122
Do you mean "snake?" The long reptile?
130名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 17:04:11
>>124
lol. Thanks!
Imagine a sneak which is not only poisonous but also BIG, like Eunectes(アナコンダ).
131【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 17:04:37
132名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 17:05:00
>>81
Is Thousand not working properly? It's working perfect on my macbook.
It may be helpful to the developer if you could give me more details.
I'll shoot a bag report on the developer's thread.
If "crap on me" means something like "not my kind," tell me so.
I'm always looking for a new English phrase.

Anyway, in case you are back to the browser, a poster on the thread found a makeshift way for the Search Web.
You can do it by highlighting a term and Command + Shift + L.
133名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 17:06:05
Oh, what's a shame!!
Snake, not sneak
I may have to kill myself!
134【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 17:06:58
135【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 17:08:33
>>133
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
thats ok^^
the proper wording is

Small bears are easier to keep in your house than big snakes.
this is better ^^
136名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 17:09:49
>>135
thanks^^
137名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 17:11:16
>>126
NOPE!!!

I HEARD TAITO KUBO IS A BIG FAN OF NIRVANA AND HE USED BLEACH TO PAY RESPECT FOR THE BAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
138【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 17:11:29
>>136
you can say
有り難う 【ありがとう】
^^
139firestar:2008/12/13(土) 17:12:40
>>132
thousand is working fine now, thank you for your concern. it is now running fine.

i am sorry i was not paying attention to my english, "thousand crapped out on me" is slang for "thousand has given up on me" or "thousand has stopped working"
it is best not to use this style of speech.
140【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 17:14:06
02:13:44
it is late
NIGHT^^
(4 ^ヮ^)ノシ
141名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 17:15:49
DO YOU THINK SMALL TITS ARE BETTER THAN NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????
INOUE HAS SUPER-SIZED TITS!!!!!!!!!
KON MENTIONED THEY ARE THE VALLEY OF THE GODDESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUNNY, ISN'T IT!!?????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
142名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 17:21:29
>>141
Some might say they prefer small tits, while others say big ones are the best.
And I'm easily facinated with big boobs. lol
I don't know, but I can't help it.
143名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 17:24:11
Come to think of it, I don't know why I think this way, but to me
tits sound like they are small and boobs sound like they are huge.
Why?
144【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 17:28:26
145名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 17:32:35

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146名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 17:37:25
>>139
Thanks. Happy to know it's running fine.

As for English, I want you to speak as you always do rather than make you baby-talk to us.
Learners, at least I, want to listen to "real" English, not dumbed down language.

I was able to learn a new phrase "crap out on" from your post, and I was able to learn many things dictionaries don't tell me.
You said it in a real conversation so I know the context and stuff.

Real usage of language can only be learned through real conversations.
If you talk in a simplified, artificial way, I'll learn dumbed down English.
I don't want to speak like a dumb or learn artificial language.

Of course, I'd like you to have fun in this thread, so it's all right not to use slang or difficult words if you don't want to.
But if you're doing so because you think it's good for learners, I'm glad if you talk as you always do.
147firestar:2008/12/13(土) 17:43:23
>>146
ok i shall chat with less baby-talk english as you called it

in my area we speak with some pretty odd slang at times i don't plan on using any unless i forget.
148名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 17:48:35
>>147
Thank you! Let us know if you think we're asking too many questions.
After all, I want you to enjoy this thread.
149firestar:2008/12/13(土) 17:53:08
>>148
ask away, i find it rather interesting.
just make note that i don't have any training as an english teacher, i am but a 4channer
who came here only several days ago
150名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 17:57:44
That's perfectly ok, you don't have to be very precise about English.
Because I look up in a dictionary whenever I learn something new.
151firestar:2008/12/13(土) 18:00:36
>>150
well if i use my every day slang then you wont find that in any dictionary that you know about anyhow
152名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 18:10:56
>>149
Thanks. If I don't get the sense of an obscure word from your explanation, I know what google is for.
If I want to know difficult grammar, I can ask Crystal. She's majoring in linguistics and planning on going to grad school to be an ESL teacher.

I'm posting on 4chan like everyday, though I'm more careful about my English when I post on English forums and image boards.

BTW, if you came from /g/, I made the Sparky thread the other day.
153firestar:2008/12/13(土) 18:15:29
>>151
"i'm gonna go redd up my room"

Redd off Clear off. Redd off the table
Redd up To tidy up.

source:
http://www.pittsburghese.com

do not ever use this on any english test. you will be failed.
:)
154firestar:2008/12/13(土) 18:16:47
>>152
ya i spend most my time on /g/ and /a/
i do not use a handle
155名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 18:29:51
>>151
That's nice. That means we can learn words that our dictionaries don't know.
But I think I can find many slang words in Urban Dictionary. Even some 4chan memes are explained.
Besides, we can google anything.

I've plugged into my SRS very odd slangy phrases like Shit was so cash.
We can learn "proper" English at school anyway.
It's not like I want to learn formal language and say "I would be most delighted if you could let us listen to proper English."
I'm sick of those how-learners-should-speak English.

>>154
I'm posting on /a/ everyday. I'm not a tripfag (read tripfriend, if you're Cirno) either.
156名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 18:32:29
>>152
>I made the Sparky thread the other day.

Do you mind me asking you a simple question on this one? What did you make that thread for the other day?
I remember someone saying he made it for the lulz. Is this correct?
157名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 18:32:46
158firestar:2008/12/13(土) 18:36:21
>>155
well welcome to 4chan! prepare too see much strange english
most native english speakers don't even understand 4chan.
it has got a slang of its own. pretty much one has to be in the geek subculture to understand that place. when i talk with other 4channers at my school the non-4chan people around us cant understand our convos at all.
159名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 18:37:26
>>157
no, ugly bitches
160名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 18:38:39
>>157
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161firestar:2008/12/13(土) 18:38:54
>>156
"for the lulz" is a VERY hard to explain phrase.
epic lulz are like mass trolling events.
i will try to find a page on this, 4chan used to have this great wiki that offered translations but sadly i think thats gone now
162firestar:2008/12/13(土) 18:45:27
>>161
ok wikichan has been down for like a year, but this site is close enough http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Lulz
163名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 18:52:11
>>158
Been there for more than 2 years. Used to lurk /b/ and /a/, and then started posting on /a/ and /lang/. So I saw the /a/ split when moot made /jp/.

My command of 4chan slang is much better than your average newfag, I think.
I never ever mention 4chan in real life.

>>156
Forgot what I said, but maybe something like "I did it for the sheer lulz."
I can't explain what it means or translate it into Japanese.
It's already "obsolete," if you ask me.
164名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 19:00:40
>>162 Thanks.
>>163
No, that's fine. You don't have to explain it to me, I just wanted to make sure where you were coming from.
165名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 19:03:26
"For the lulz" is definitely difficult to explain.
"Lulz" itself comes from "lols", which is a pluralized form of "lol".
"Lol" means "laughing out loud". However, usually, people who use "lol" are thought to be immature or unintelligent (unlike "w"?)...
But, that's not important to this discussion.

I found this in an article online:
[The phrase "I did it for the lulz"] usually refers to deliberate
trolling behavior intended to harass Internet users for the
amusement of others.

Maybe that's true, and maybe that's a little inaccurate.

Have you heard of someone doing something "for the hell of it"? I think that's a little similar.
166名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 19:05:51
>>164
Anyway, steer clear of /b/ if you browse 4chan. Lurk /b/ only when you want to know what "cesspool" and "idiot" mean.
You'll thank me later.
167名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 19:08:34
>>165
"for the hell of it" means 冗談半分で or 魔がさして.
168名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 19:25:35
169名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 19:38:02
>>168
It should be noted that this news story is very inaccurate.
170名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 19:50:03
>>162
The author of Thousand just released a new beta.
Search Web and some other bags are fixed.
I'm posting this using the latest version.

http://homepage.mac.com/k_natori/Cocoa/downloads/Thousand081213.zip
171firestar:2008/12/13(土) 20:01:09
>>170
thanks it works i am using it right now
well actually i am going to be getting to bed now.
it is 06:00 where i am
g'night
172名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 20:03:32
>>171
Good night.
173名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 21:17:15
>>3-7
Please remember k-tan, swedish girl.
K-tanのことも思い出してやってください。
Oh, there was ロシア人 who bombarded this thread and disappeared
quickly.

There was スコットランド人 and he was one of the
most noticeable foreigner during a certain short period.
There were only a couple of frequent foreign posters before.
I liked to hear rivalry between English and Scotland.
He was anglophobe and socialist and secessionist.
It's good to be able to feel real foreign atmosphere
directly from the internet.
If I could see south vs north, republican vs democrat, neo-nazi vs anti-racist(commie)
and so forth in this thread.
Americans here are polarized into liberals and Weeboos. Fat chance.
There was once a white nationalist who was a supporter of
Jared Taylor. He was interested in Japanese culture as well.
174名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 21:53:10
ノルウェー人 existed.
175名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 21:55:17
And オーストラリア人 and カナダ人.
176名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 22:03:19
>>173
These above topics of discussions are quite boresome(especially neo-nazi vs anti-racist)
I like more practical topics, such as the usage of the certain words or pharases,
the difference between Americans and Japanese cultures, corrections of Japanese sentenses wriiten by foreigers
or something like these.

I'm not intrigued how the British feel against Scotish at all.
(I know how they hate each other because my cousins's father is Sctotish, though I'm pure Japanese.)

I felt very bored when people here disscussed about racial topics.
(Who can say sincerely that the race is superior but the other is inferior ? Illogical.)
177【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 22:22:04
ill explain about
"for the lulz"

178【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 22:24:42
ill be back in /g/ in the year 2011
179名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 22:25:54
>>177
Good morning.
I have a question, which I have been eager to ask you.
Why do you use 'were' instead of 'where'? Is it a trend amoung young Americans?
180名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 22:29:28
>>176
It's your taste.
neo-nazi vs anti-racist it's an exaggeration.
South vs North, republican vs democrat. christian right or
liberal are more typical.
181【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 22:29:30
ohh
i forgot the h

and it carries out with w's
182名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 22:33:16
>>178
Why will you?
183【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 22:37:07
ill be in collage
away from home
and hopefully
the
184名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 22:39:12
>>183
Good luck
185【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 22:39:40
site is not blocked
186名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 22:41:43
>>183
... Will you enter college in 2011 ?
187【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/13(土) 22:47:13
yes bye ^^
188名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 22:51:25
>>187
Oh, thst's very-very nice ^^
I hope that you enjoy your life there!
What are you going to majore in ?
189名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 23:01:20
congratulations.This is present for sparky.
http://125.207.177.163/20081213319027/omote/img2/2004011615.jpg
190イギリス人:2008/12/14(日) 00:02:16
>>176
The friction between England and Scotland dates back from around the 14th century,
when King Edward decided to invade and annex the northern lands (but not
without a struggle). There has been much conflict since, even once the Stuart
dynasty took over from the Tudors which united the countries under one monarch.

I'm not sure why there's still some conflict between the two countries, but it
does feel as though the Scots dislike us more (hence the SNP being elected and
a referendum for independence).

>>987 (last thread)
The meaning of 'until' is somewhat ambiguous. Some people claim it means 'up to
the time and including', and some 'up to the time but excluding'. There are
sometimes disagreements even in courtroom trials about this.
191名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 00:12:54
192名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 00:15:21


ーーーーーークソの溜まり場が好きな能無しのスレーーーーーーーーーーーー
193名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 00:18:11


低脳英語スレ低脳英語スレ低脳英語スレ低脳英語スレ低脳英語スレ低脳英語スレ




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194名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 00:20:12



ーーーーーークソの溜まり場が好きな能無しのスレーーーーーーーーーーーー
195Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2008/12/14(日) 01:08:37
>>179

No, Sparky is just an idiot and doesn't speak English correctly.
196名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 01:19:21
>>195
Hello, Tennessean!
I'm glad you got your own trip code. Now no one can impersonate you anymore.
The dude who impersonated you often posts KKK stuff here. I just don't get what he's thinking.
You have a good day!
197名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 01:27:11
>>190
Ummm, thanks. I leanrned a lot.
Speaking of that Scotish father, when FIFA world cup was held at France in 1998(or at Japan&Korea in 2002... I fougot),
he cheered up Sweeden, though England was also in France. (Scotland couldn't remain best 46 countries.)
I got to know how Scotich dislike England at that time..
(He lives in England now, though.)
198名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 01:31:15
>>195
His grammar isn't always correct, but he's not an idiot.
Sparky is trying to be loved, though it doesn't always work.
I don't want to call a person who tries to be nice an idiot.
199名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 01:31:26
>>195
... I think he isn't idiot, though he may have a slight memtal problem.
He has a good mind, I think.

BTW, pronunciation of `where` is similar to that of `were` ?
200名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 01:35:37
I'd be interested to know what Mr. Perfect's take on World Cup Japan/Korea is.
201アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/14(日) 01:36:44
>>199
Sort of. "Where" doesn't have a hard "er" sound. It's more pronounced more like "air" so, "wh*air*".
Did that make sense?
202名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 01:37:21
Slight mental problem? He would be clear winner in Special Olympics
high energy sports.

Where and were have different pronunciations. He just can't spell or
use grammar or punctuation correctly. Hopefully he will learn from
other native speakers here.
203名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 01:40:43
>>201
Sure. Thanks.
204名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 01:45:59
>>200
?
205名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 01:55:51
>>173-175
>>7 is not me. It was posted 28 seconds after >>6 was posted.
More than 30 seconds has to pass to post another post.

Yeah, I remember K-tan (Swedish), ロシア人(Russian),スコットランド人(Scotish), ノルウェー人
(Norwegian), オーストラリア人(Australian) and カナダ人. (Canadian)
Everyone who remembers them can add their profiles.
I wrote >>3-6 for the fun of it and to practice writing English and anybody
can rewirte them.

Maybe 3-6 has to be more short and concise or true to facts, but as I
wrote them, I added jokes and tried to be humorous. Maybe I went a little
overboard.

>>190
I'm 987 of the previous thread. It sounds like the same as "more than"
and "less than." I heard for some, "more than 60 pounds" includes
60 pounds, and for others, it doesn't include 60 pounds, although,
when it's used in technical writing, it doesn't include 60.
206名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 01:58:16
>>201
How did your interview of university go?
207名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 02:27:03
>>201
Don't forget to put it in your pocket and sniff it when you gets nervous
before the interview.

What do they ask you in the interview. What process do you have to go through
to be admitted to the university?
208名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 02:40:09
Sparky has the intelligence to enter the college?
209アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/14(日) 03:03:21
>>206
>>207
I have it later this afternoon, I just wanted to make sure I got enough sleep because usually I don't.
I don't want to be tired and botch things up now do I? I should probably leave the panties at home, I don't think the interviewer would appreciate
me inhaling them throughout the interview lol.

Luckily, I have a friend that interviewed with the same college a few weeks ago, so she gave me a good idea of what they'll ask.
It will most likely be about my hobbies (panty sniffing, obviously) and my academic interests. The interview is actually an optional part of the application process,
but it shows you are interested in the school. I already submitted my application online, so this is the last step.
210名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 03:09:11
イギリス人 is an enthusiastic Samantha Fox fan.
211firestar:2008/12/14(日) 03:18:35
>>208
that is a very good question to ponder.
212名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 03:40:43
>>209
But if you are thinking of majoring scatology in the uni, I think letting them see you
sniffing them works in favor of you in one way. If you don't want them
to see you doing it, then you can go to the men's room and sniff it
until you get relaxed.

>It will most likely be about my hobbies (panty sniffing, obviously)
Haha!

Seriously though, good luck!

I wonder some of the applicants who didn't take the interview can enroll in
the univeristy.
213Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2008/12/14(日) 04:05:17
The scatology thing is a joke, right? I didn't know any universities offered a major like that.
perhaps they would offer it as a specialization in med school...

My sister is an internal medicine doctor right now. She didn't have a life for decade that she
was in university, medical school, and residency... I think out of her original class of 100 people,
she was one of two to not drop out at some point and actually become a doctor. It is pretty hard.

Good luck to thee.
214jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 04:23:00
>>205
You did a great job writing those. I enjoy reading them.
It's also entertaining to see how they change a little bit with each thread.
215jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 04:33:03
There was also the korean girl who was here for a couple of days. I can't remember her name.
She seemed to be scared away by people being rude because they associated her with the korea spammer.
216名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 04:36:25
Looks like no one remembers S-chan anymore orz....
She was the pioneer.
217jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 04:38:32
>>216 I've only been here since... umm... 118?
218名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 04:47:40
Please tell me the differences between these expressions:
1) I don't want to miss this opportunity.
2) I don't want to miss out on this opportunity.

What does "out on" add to "miss"?
219名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 04:53:31
オーストラリア人(豪人?) and カナダ人 are not as frequent as
k-tan. YouTube-link spammers is originally an reference to
k-tan.
a girl only in one thread does not deserve to be remembered, I guess.
220jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 05:00:01
>>218
To my mind, they have the same meaning.
221米人:2008/12/14(日) 05:00:52
>>218
"out on" makes it more emphatic.
As if everyone else is taking advantage of the opportunity, and you are the
only one to miss it.
Otherwise, they are equivalent phrases.
222名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:04:44
米人, are you obama freak?
You must have attended an obama rally.
223firestar:2008/12/14(日) 05:05:34
>>218
we say " i don't want to miss the bus" we would never say "i don't want to miss out on the bus"
"miss out on" implies that one is being left out of something such as an activity or an opportunity.
"miss the bus" means the bus left with out someone.

so for your 1) and 2) they have the exact same meaning in this case because of it being an opportunity.
there is no difference between 1) and 2)

well thats my two cents, but i'm no english expert
224名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:06:19
>>220-221
Thank both of you. I see. So basically both of them mean the same thing.

How about "I'll miss you." and "I'll miss out on you"?
I've never heard of the latter one for some reason, though...
225jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 05:09:56
>>224 Nope. You wouldn't say "I'll miss out on you."
In this case, the meaning of "miss" is different.
If you say "I'll miss you," then that's a general feeling of longing and lonliness when they're gone.
It's not the same as missing the bus.
226名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:10:09
>>224
Oops, I posted >>224 before refreshing my browser..

My question seemed almost answered already!?
Native speakers wouldn't say "I'll miss out on you" because "you" is
obviously a person, not "an activity or an opportunity".
Am I correct?
227名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:12:40
>>225
Thanks.
I need to clear my head. I'm a little confused now.
Wait a sec...
228jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 05:15:21
>>227 To miss a person is not the same as to miss an event or opportunity.
229米人:2008/12/14(日) 05:16:16
>>222
Actually I supported Hillary Clinton in the primaries. But I switched my support to
Obama after he won the nomination. He didn't bother coming to Massachusetts once he was nominated;
we're the bluest of blue states.
I think he could be a great president. I'm very hopeful, even though our country is in tough straits
right now.

>>224
You wouldn't say "miss out on you" because that implies that more than one person
is taking advantage of that opportunity at the same time. Not a nice implication
when you're talking about a person.
"I'll miss you" is a slightly different meaning...it means you're sad not to see someone again
for a while. Not necessarily that you'll never see them again, unlike a missed
opportunity or bus or whatever.

230firestar:2008/12/14(日) 05:18:51
>> 227
"miss the bus" = the bus left with out a person
"miss you" = feeling of longing for a person
"miss out on" = left out of an event or opportunity
231名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:19:35
Actually I supported Hillary Clinton in the primaries.
off the charts! I didn't know you are racially aware.

By the way, have you bought doraemon I recommended?
232名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:22:18
In japan we are taught that "can have + past participle" is
gramatically wrong and not used.
Do you agree or disagree? If used, is it formal or informal?
233jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 05:25:42
>>232 No, I wouldn't say "I can have eaten tacos" for example.
You would use the word "could" instead of "can"
234名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:25:48
Thank you guys! I think I'm clear now.

"Miss out on" is used specifically for an event or opportunity and interchangeable
for "miss" as an emphasis.
You can't use it for vehicles such as buses and trains.
And to miss someone is used to mean your emotions for him/her.
235firestar:2008/12/14(日) 05:26:54
>>232
i think you would want to say, could have + past participle rather than can have + past participle
for example:
"i could have ate that" is correct and "i can have ate that" is wrong
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237firestar:2008/12/14(日) 05:28:44
>>233
oh i am sorry i should have refreshed before i posted >>235
i am not trying to rob you of the spotlight
238名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:30:04
>>235
You say never heard of "can have PP" used in real life?
http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/ask-teacher/30381-can-have-past-participle-please-help-help-help-guys.html
Some native speakers seem to admit "can have PP".
239jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 05:30:39
>>237 No worries
240名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:32:00
Hmm, to tell you the truth, I have another question.

1)I'll give you up.
2)I'll give up on you.

Do they sound almost the same to you?
241jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 05:35:06
>>240
"give you up" is to let the person go. Release them, almost.
"give up on you" means you'll stop caring about/helping them.
242firestar:2008/12/14(日) 05:35:54
>>240
i'll give you up (to something/to someone)
vs "i'll give up on you" meaning what it means. a.k.a. not the above
243名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:37:09
I seem to have this (phrasal) verb + "on" problem..

The other day, I watched TV and ran into the scene -
someone said, "Don't die on me!!" when his father passed away in the hospital.
And his father lied on the bed, not on the guy himself. Why did he say "on me"?
On makes me confused.
244名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:37:57
>>213
Maybe joke, maybe not. But the winner of the Elvis impersonator contest thing isn't a joke. :p
Two out of 100? That sounds really tough to survive all the way through and become a doctor.
It must be really reassuring to have a doctor in your family.

>>214
Thank you. It wasn't easy to write them. As for bean sprouts thing,
I spotted a plant pot of them in the far corner of the photo you
uploaded.

>>216
This thread wasn't her main thread and she showed up much more often in J-->E translation thread
thread as far as I know. She didn't use handle name but somehow I could tell
which posts were hers.

>>219
k-tan is from Sweden so maybe her access to 2ch has been denied, too.
245米人:2008/12/14(日) 05:38:01
>>231
Racially aware???
No, I supported Hillary because I thought she had more experience.
But Obama seems to be a quick learner, so he'll probably be fine.

>>232
can+have+past participle is not used.

>>235
"I could have eaten that" sounds more natural to me.


246名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:38:53
http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/ask-teacher/30381-can-have-past-participle-please-help-help-help-guys.html
There seems to be an argument among native speakers.
But both admits that "can have PP" exists, being valid.
How do you think?
247firestar:2008/12/14(日) 05:40:05
>>246
it is proper english to say "i could have + pp" rather than "can have + pp"
248jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 05:42:53
>>244
I'll have to take a look at that picture again to see what you're talking about.
There aren't any plants in my room.
I do like bean sprouts in my ramen though, as long as there aren't TOO many.
249名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:43:32
FOR YOUR INFORMATION

1. Tense + Verb
2. Tense +Modal + Verb
3. Tense + Perfect+ Verb
4. Tense +Progressive +Verb
5. Tense+ Modal + perfect
6. Tense +Modal+ Progressive
7. Tense +Perfect + Progressive + Verb
8. Tense + Modal + Perfect + Progressive + Verb
9. (Modal) + HAVE + BE + Past Participle (Passive)
250名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:44:17
Three native speakers here denied "can have PP".
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22can+have+been%22&aq=f&oq= google result
Some must be from native speakers.
http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/ask-teacher/30381-can-have-past-participle-please-help-help-help-guys.html
And the link.

I'm confused. Do you people understand why "can have past partciple"
is not allowed? If you can understand, could you explain to me?
You people just have not used it because it has not been
used?
251jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 05:45:19
>>244, >>248
Nope. I don't see it. Here's the picture again. http://i38.tinypic.com/2eckdo0.jpg
Maybe you can point out what you're talking about?
252firestar:2008/12/14(日) 05:46:15
>>243
"don't die on me" means "don't die on my time here" or "don't die now" die later instead
253jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 05:46:17
>>250 It's one of those things that "just sounds wrong"
I suppose that's not very helpful, but I don't know beyond that.
Someone might know rules. I just know it doesn't sound right.
254名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:47:39
>>248
Bean sprouts thing is a joke from you-know-who's essay.
Maybe you are joking back...
255名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:48:40
>>241-242
Thank you.
It's really difficult. ^^
256jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 05:48:53
>>254 Yes, I remember Crystal says Orochon isn't her favorite ramen place because they put bean sprouts, which she doesn't like.
257名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:51:43
He can't have eaten all five pizzas by himself.
He couldn't have eaten all five pizzas by himself.

Both sentences express the speaker's disbelief with reference to the action.
They have almost identical meanings. The only difference is where the speaker
places himself. The first sentence puts the speaker's disbelief in the prersent.
(Even now) I can't believe that.... The second sentence is just a
statement about the past, so it uses a past tense modal.
-------------
How do you think about explanation of a guy from New York?
Wait. He is refering to "can not have", not "can have".
"Can not have" and "could not have" simultaneously exists while "could have"
only exists. It's a mystery.
258jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 05:52:50
>>257 I didn't think of that. You're right, though.
259米人:2008/12/14(日) 05:53:32
>>231
I forgot to say I did buy the first volume of Doraemon, but I haven't read it
yet. Right now I am slowly working my way through an excellent Japanese grammar
dictionary. It has explanations of why you use words one way and not another
and shows examples of bad grammar and explains why it is bad. It's very helpful
for a non-native speaker. I try to read the example sentences in the original Japanese,
but I have to cheat and read the romaji when I don't recognize a kanji.

>>246
I've never heard "you can have +PP"
but I think it is sometimes used in the negative. "You can't have said that..."
as a way of emphasizing the impossibility of the situation, although
"couldn't have said" is probably better English.
All of the examples I saw in that thread were in the negative.
260名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:54:10
>>245
Some racially-aware, true (white) Americans ran to McCain after
Hillary's defeat.
261jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 05:55:26
>>254 I don't really understand why you're connecting me to bean sprouts though, if its just from Crystal's essay.
262米人:2008/12/14(日) 05:56:19
>>260
Democracy isn't always pretty.
263名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:56:48
>>259
Interesting....
Then what's the difference between "You CAN'T say that..." and "you can't have said that..."?
I'm curious.
By the way, I've just come here.
264名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 05:57:56
Democratic Party was once a party of (white) working class.
265名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:00:56
>>245
Thanks. I didn't know "can't have PP" is almost informal.
Do you think
"may have been" is stronger than "might have been" in belief in
possibility? There is no significant difference in the meaning?
266jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 06:01:58
>>263
"You can't say that" means the person you're talking to isn't allowed to say it.
"You can't have said that" means you (the speaker) don't believe they said it.
267名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:05:24
bean sprout is もやしmoyashi in japanese and it can mean
skinny, frail, indoor person.
もやし alone is not usually used. もやしっ子 is the common word.
268名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:06:01
>>266
Thank you for your straightforward answer.
One is "not to allow to say it". The ohter is "do not believe ...". Following >>259, it could be more likely to be "impossible to believe"?
269名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:06:06
>>252
Thanks a million.
So on someone sometimes mean "on my time here" or " now", right?
Can I say, "don't play TV games on me"?
270jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 06:06:34
>>267 Ah, so then you were mocking me?
Okay then.
271名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:08:06
>>270
I'm not the one who mocked you. I just had a thought to explain.
272jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 06:09:55
>>271 Forgive me. It can be difficult talking to a lot of no-nameさん.
273名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:10:45
>>256
Yes, and she also wrote she loves extremely spicy hot ramen so she ordered
ramen in level 7. And Orochon is in Alaska and is open 24/7 365days a year.
They only serve Jooky for beverage and two days a week they serve sushi, too.

>>251
The bean sprouts plant pot is behind the white plastic bag on the ground
on the left.

>>261
Then my joke fell flat. Let me explain. You ate her bean sprouts at orochon.
--->You like to eat them. ---->you love them so much that you plant
them even in your own room for an occasion when you eat instant ramen at home.
274名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:14:16
Do you mind if I ask you guys to take care of the following exmaples?

1. won't have said that
2. may not have said that
3. shall not have said that

Do they all express strong disbelief like "can't have said" does?
275名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:14:34
>>270
I wasn't mocking you. >>273 is my post.
276名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:16:18
http://youtube.com/watch?v=36CgCv6qtO8&eurl
Is Michael Hibbs aka Michael Burks scrawny(もやしっ子bean sprout kid)?
277名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:17:40
Xbehind the white plastic bag on the ground
Obehind the white plastic bag on the floor
278jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 06:18:29
>>273 I understand it all, now.
However, I'm still not sure what you're looking at in the picture.
http://i37.tinypic.com/1ifltt.jpg
>>275 Sorry about that.
279名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:23:35
>>278
That's a joke, too. I don't see any bean sprouts pot in your room.
Thank you for taking time to uploading the photo with the description.
280jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 06:25:46
>>279 I'll try harder next time.
I guess the joke this time was too far out there for me to grasp it.
I'm not always good at making connections between seemingly unrelated things.
281linger:2008/12/14(日) 06:25:58
>>264
Still, around 80-90% of blacks usually vote Democrat in the US.
282【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 06:27:25
>>188
electrical engineer?
>>198
>>199
>>208
all this is facts
283名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:33:10
>>280
Some hash-head grow cannabis in their own room to inhale it without
buying peddlers on the street. I meant almost the same thing in the joke.

You showed the photo again in >>251. Actually I don't spot any bean sprouts pot, which is of course.
but I pretend as if spotted it.

And NO, my sense of humor wasn't good enough. Plus explaing the joke
in English isn't easy.
284名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:34:25
Xbuying peddlers on the street
Obuying from peddlers on the street
285jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 06:36:30
>>283-284 Actually, I did think about the comparison to growing marijuana in the closet.
I don't think pot would be good for me though - I'm already way laid-back.
I have one particular high-strung friend that I genuinely think it would help though.
286firestar:2008/12/14(日) 06:38:29
>>269
>Can I say, "don't play TV games on me"?
no, don't say that.

what i was trying to say before, was "don't die on me" mean, as i take it, "don't die on my watch" which means "don't die right now as i am here (die at some later date instead)"

just try not to use this form of english, it is almost special case.
287【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 06:40:17
>>205
you are getting better
288名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:41:18
>>285
Isn't loads of assignment of university stressful?
289名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:44:55
>>287
Thank you very much, sir. I'm honored you gave me such a nice comment, sir.
290名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:55:18
Is "big brother", which is from the novel "1984", familiar word?
Does intelligent or SF person only know it?
291【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 06:56:25
>>289
no problem!
they are quite humorous!
also
# 『【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田◆AZWpeumso.』はBARギコっぽい一般の住民である。
# 外国人らしい。
# トランスミュージックと初音ミクをこよなく愛する。
# ウィンドウズMeを使っている。Meをバカにすると怒り出す。
# ルイジアナ州に住むアメリカ人らしい。
292名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:57:54
The phrase "BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU" is not common
in Japan.
293名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 06:58:52
>>291
How do you understand the description?
Did you use online translation software?
294米人:2008/12/14(日) 06:59:54
>>274
1. X won't have said that
O wouldn't have said that
"I wouldn't have said that if I'd known better."
2. may not have said that
expresses uncertainty or a mild disagreement about whether someone has
said something
"He may not have finished the report yet--I'll check."
"He may not have been the one who said/did that."
3. X shall not have
O should not have
I shouldn't have done/said/...
BTW, shall not isn't too commonly used I think.
Except in the Bible. "Thou shalt not [insert Ten Commandments here].
295名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 07:02:00
>>294
Can you expalin the difference between may have PP and
might have PP and the reason?
296【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 07:02:49
>>293
http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
297jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 07:05:52
>>290 actually, the term "big brother" is more common than you might expect.
It's used to describe the government trying to take more control of peoples' lives, and to monitor everything people do.
Tactics like phone-tapping, scanning emails, etc. raise concerns over the right to personal privacy.
The government claims it has to do these things "to keep us safe" from "terrorists" and the like, but personally I think that's bull.
Particularly with the passage of the Patriot Act, the US government has been given more authority to spy on citizens.
Any time something comes up that would reduce peoples' privacy, or give the government control of our day-to-day lives, the term "big brother" is probably not far off.
298名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 07:09:09
>>297
Thanks. It seems neither an intelligent word nor a special term.
299jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 07:12:16
>>290, >>297
イギリス人 would probably have some good input on this topic too, depending on where he lives.
I know London has cameras all over the place.
I saw a statistic that on any given day, walking around London, you're likely to be photographed something like 6,000 times?
The police can see everything that happens there.
New York also apparently is implementing a similar system.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/09/new-york-city-to-get-london-style-surveillance-veil/
But it's not so widespread yet.
300名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 07:20:20
>>296
I see. How did you know the translation page?
From your posts so far, you don't seem to shy away from visiting websites
written in Japanese.

The following is my translation. I think it's better than that of translation
software.

# 『【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田◆AZWpeumso.』is a resident of BAR Gikoppoi.
# It seems like he's a foreigner.
# He loves trance music and Hatsune Miku.
# His PC is Windows Me. He gets angry when Windows Me is insulted.
# Rumor has it that he's American and lives in Louisiana.
301【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 07:23:04
>>300
umm guys i forgot were we dine tonight!

anyway
that is a very good translation!!!!!!^^
302jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 07:23:05
>>300
I assumed that "Meをバカにすると怒り出す" means he gets angry when his Windows ME misbehaves, but your translation makes more sense, I think.
303jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 07:27:32
I wonder what you guys will think of this...


`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.


"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"

He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought --
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!

(cont)
304【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 07:27:54
>>300
also
my friend schnee from Japan told me about it
305jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 07:28:15
>>303
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.

"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.


`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.



Don't work too hard and hurt your brain.
306【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 07:38:57
>>300
>>302
" When some one mock at windows ME sparky might be steam up"
307米人:2008/12/14(日) 07:40:08
>>295
Most people use may and might interchangeably.
I had to look up the following difference on wikipedia:
might is the conditional mood of may
"If you were nicer, I might invite you to dinner sometime".
Here is the link if you want to learn more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_modal_auxiliary_verb
It talks about many pairs of these types of verbs: would, will/shall,
should, may/might, can/could, must/have to, ought to/had better and so
on.
signing off for now

308jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 07:40:30
>>306
I see my translation was wrong, then.
309名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 07:44:06
>>302

In this sentensse there's no subject but we Japanse can uderstand what
the subjects are.

バカにする means insult. 怒りだす means gets angry.
(怒る means gets angry, too and 怒りだす means starts to get angry.
maybe "starts get angry" is unatural English but you know what I mean.
I translated 怒り出す as get angry, but precisely it means starts to
get angry.)

The subject of バカにする, I think, is anybody who meets Sparky at
Bar Gikoppoi. バカにする means insult.
The subject of 怒りだす is Sparky.

So all in all, the sentense means "when someone insults Windows Me,
he gets angry." I used passive voice though.
310jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 07:46:06
>>309
It seems I interpreted the sentence almost the same, except for the meaning of バカにする
Since it was the first time I encountered that phrase, I thought of my own interpretation.
Thus, in my mind it sound like "do something stupid" or, as I wrote it, "misbehave."
311名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 07:52:29
>>304
I see. And thank you for your compliment.
>>306
mock at is more true to the nuance than insult. And the nuance of "might be"
isn't in the original Japanese.

>>303.>>305
Without looking up each and every word I don't understand, I don't know
what the they mean.
312名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 07:56:45
>>310
I see. That makes sense. Anyway, nice try.

Time to go now. See ya.
313jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 07:58:30
>>311
It would be useless looking up the words in >>303, >>305. They're mostly nonsense.
This is a poem by Lewis Carrol. It's somewhat famous, and is from the followup book to Alice in Wonderland.
314firestar:2008/12/14(日) 08:08:09
poems tend to be nonsense just so it can rime
315【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 08:12:58
ill be back ok?

i going to reinstall windows me
316firestar:2008/12/14(日) 08:21:08
>>315
sparky, you are the retard who we let eat at table.
install windows xp and use a higher than 800x600 rez
317【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 08:23:26
NO
318jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 09:00:46
Kanji can be pretty. Making wallpapers of them is something of a hobby of mine.
I just spent about an hour making 紅 crimson. http://i37.tinypic.com/x5b43k.jpg
What do you guys think? I've done several others too.
I suppose if you're actually Japanese, it's kind of mundane to use something like this for your wallpaper.
Kind of like me having a wallpaper that's just a stylized word "red." Sort of silly.
To me, though, the kanji wallpapers look nice.
319【sparky(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 09:06:09
ok

current os
2000
320【sparky(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 09:09:18
do anyone have a Japanese Windows me?
321firestar:2008/12/14(日) 09:10:03
>>319
xp is the fixed version on 2k sparky.....
322【sparky(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 09:11:42
>>321
.............................................................................................................................................
2000 is very hard to crash
323【sparky(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 09:15:47
324firestar:2008/12/14(日) 09:24:04
i can see why you were banned from 4chan
your mind is very broken
325名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 10:15:16
>>318
You mean wallpaper of PC display. I thought wallpaper on the wall first.
Kanji looks exotic for foreigners. I don't think I'd have kanji on wallpaper.
Now I have picture meaning painting, on wall paper. I picked it up from
Windows Vista's originally installed. Some people get kanji tatooed although
all I saw tatooed are NBA players. I don't think no university studetdents
have tatoos on thier skins.

Have you ever tried have your real name written in kanji?
I would wirte handle name, like 熟(じゅく)which means mature or ripe.
326アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/14(日) 10:22:42
Hey all, just got back from my USC interview. I think it went really well.
I mentioned I did a homestay in Japan and the interviewer got really excited and asked if I was
interested in doing a study abroad at Waseda University. We also joked about how hard it is to learn Japanese lol.
Oh and once I saw he liked Japan, I took out my collection of Japanese panties and let him take one.

He also said that my schedule would be flexible enough to accommodate numerous amounts of courses in Scientology/Scatology,
despite having many required Computer Science courses.

>>318
That's pretty sweet jook. Got anymore/fullsize?
327jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 10:25:27
>>325
Wallpaper is the word most often used for the picture on your computer's desktop.
Background is common too.

Seeing kanji tattoos is actually pretty common. It's exotic and stylish.
Probably most people don't even know for sure what their tattoo means.
They just trust the artist, and sometimes they get screwed for it. You get people with "Ugly slut" or somesuch tattooed on them, and their convinced it means "Eternal Love" or something.
Of course, not all are like this, but it isn't unheard-of.
Anyway, it's certainly not a phenomenon restricted to basketball players.
Many people, men and women, get kanji tattoos.

as for my name, it has an r-consonant combination, so it wouldn't translate well.
I can find something close, though.
When I visited Japan, I was named 渦巻 because my hair was dyed in the pattern of a spiral.
Now, my hair is long so I can't do that. It was a lot of fun though.
328名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 10:52:37
>>326
You can have the interview in Chicago or you're staying in California now?
Which would you choose to go if you pass one of the IVY league university?
IVY league sounds more cool to me. I didn't know USC is a good university.
Waseda is one of the best private university in Japan.
You took along your collection of them! Just taking one of them was enough.
But I guess just one panty wasn't enough to cope with your nervousness.
You gave a bribe to him. But once he accepted it, your enrollment is ensured.
Congratulations!

I know you can handle the numorous amount of courses. Studying them
is your dream.
329jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 11:00:01
>>326
Here's a gallery of all my kanji wallpapers.
http://s448.photobucket.com/albums/qq206/jook7sIb7g/kanji/
I realize I used the wrong half of Peace.
平和 is the Japanese, and I used 平 when the main meaning is carried by 和。 oh well, I didn't know at the time.
The rest are all right, as far as I know.
probably someone here will tell me I'm a complete failure and I did it all wrong.
330名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 11:03:52
>>327
You can't trust tatoo artists, I guess. They just look up words in dictionary.
Native Japanese speakers's check is must.

> r-consonant combination
Robert, Rechard...Hmmm Guessing goes nowhere.

渦巻. I see.
331jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 11:13:06
>>330 I'll tell you this, it doesn't also start with R.
332名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 11:17:07
>>329
>I used 平 when the main meaning is carried by 和。

Yeah. I've never seen the kanji for Fear. I can't write it and read it.
I type おそれ and convert it to kajin and voila 虞. We usually use 恐
or 怖 but 虞 may looks more cool because even average Japanese don't
know what it means and mysterious even to Japanese.
333名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 11:18:03
>329
As for `将`, you can't mean `general` by the one letter.
If you want to mean `general exactly in Japanese` exactly, you put `軍` behind `将` , and
then it becomes `将軍` or general.^^
334名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 11:19:27
>>331
I gave up!
335名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 11:23:36
>>322
I agree.
How could you appear that difficult kanji ?
What hiragana should I type to convert it to 虞 ?
336名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 11:31:05
Oops.
Correct one is...
>>332
I agree.
How could you make that difficult kanji appear ?
WHat hiragana should I type to convert it to 虞 ?”
337名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 11:43:33
>>329
I find the 平 one really nice actually, it has a peaceful feel to it. GJ
虜 reads とりこ and doesn't neccesarily mean fear but does go with
the image behind it, because it's used as a metaphor in a somewhat
negative way. I think a literal translation would be"prisoner", "trapped"
or something along those lines.
338名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 11:45:40
>>336

おそれ
339名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 11:48:13
>>338
That's right, I read it totally wrong. It's 虞 not 虜.
Ignore my post >>337...
340名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 12:04:28
虜 can be used in a positive way.
There is a famous French song, the title pf which is あなたのとりこ in Japanese.
You can say “彼は彼女の虜だ” when you see a person who is fascinated by a certain girl and cannot
think anything other than her.

341名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 12:15:36
>>340
I half agree. To her, it may be a positive situation since she's
attractive enough to do so but to him, it may not be that positive
because he's too preoccupied with her. :(
342Crystal:2008/12/14(日) 12:41:45
>>27 I thought it was cute when you called him sparkly. :) You should continue to do so!

>>234 I would add that "miss you" can also mean the kind of miss as in this example:
"Hey I came to your house the other day but you weren't home!" "Oh really? I'm so sorry
I missed you. I must have been at the store" In this case they missed seeing the person
as the timing was off, not emotionally missed. You can also "miss someone's call" in the
same way.

I do my kanji name by meaning because it is possible with my name. 結晶... ooor... 水晶 I looked up the second one and it
didn't seem quite right, though it was the first version I learned to do my name..
Wow It took a long time to catch up from yesterday...
I understood why the person joking about my Orochon essay said jook loves bean sprouts.
I thought that was really funny.
I think maybe my essay part about the levels was confusing though? I thought the way I
described it that number 1 would be the very spiciest ramen at Orochon, not 7. That's
how they number them, but maybe I explained wrong. BTW I got an A on my essay :)
My sensei commented she also likes to go there.
BTW jook is wrong, I don't dislike them for taste, I just find it weird to have
something crunchy in my noodles. I try to pick through most of them, (and in Orochon
they put a lot in) but i don't mind having one or two in each bite. I gave him the
sprouts i didn't eat because he was still hungry.

343sparky4:2008/12/14(日) 12:42:34
WinDOZE eXtra Problem$
is current os
SERVER IS OFFLINE
344名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 12:47:44
>>341
Umm, you maybe right.
When we say “彼女の虜だな” to him, we may have a slightly cynical intention.
When someone calls himself as 虜, the word is used in a positive way, I think.
345名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 13:23:44
>>327
>I thought it was cute when you called him sparkly. :) You should continue to do so!
lol. You are mischievous!
I can't continue to do so, because
it's impossible to bear this shame any longer!
But, thanks^^;
346Crystal:2008/12/14(日) 13:30:38
>>345 lol, well feel free to mess up my name in cute ways anytime ^_^
347名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 14:07:47
Gikoppoi is a cyber space where it's said that sparky used to go.
What kind of impression do you have about that space ?
I think staying there is very unhealthy.
348アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/14(日) 14:14:33
>>328
I did the interview in Chicago near O'Hare International airport.
I guess there are enough people in the Chicago area applying to USC to warrant sending
four interviewers out here. USC is my first choice and has one of the top engineering programs in the US.
However, some of the other schools I'm applying to are overall ranked better (Ivy League), USC still has one of the top
computer science/interactive media programs in the country. They have a lot of contacts within the video game industry in California
so it'd be easy for me to get summer internships at studios like EA and Blizzard. I picked certain Ivy League schools like Columbia University
because they offer liberal arts degrees in computer science, which is my back-up in case I don't get into an awesome program like USC's.

Oh and it's not a bribe, just a friendly exchange of fetishes!
>>329
Woah, those are pretty cool. I like the shogun one the best.
349名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 14:22:58
>>346
lol. maybe(^。^;)
350【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 14:40:33
failed
failed
failed
failed
OK I GIVE
Windows Me failed to reinstall!

http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-me/winme-reinstall-suwin-an-error-has/43980.html
To Microsoft employees: I should have been able to find this solution on the MS Knowledge base! You are lazy, overpaid, unprofessional ばか.
351jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 14:42:12
Hey guys. I disappeared for a while.
As for my fear kanji, it's just what my dictionary gave me. I didn't know the kanji before either.
If I had known that there would be something else easier to understand, I would have gone with it.
But if the meaning is still there, then I guess I'm ok. >>332 says it's mysterious, so maybe that helps too.

>>337
I'm glad you still get a nice feeling from it. That makes me feel better.

>>348
I'm glad you like them. I've been very pleased with most of the wallpapers.
Actually, Shogun is my current wallpaper on one of my computers.
352jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 14:43:51
>>350
Uh oh, Sparky. Don't lose your Claim to Fame!
If you don't have Windows ME installed, how can you tell us how great it is?
Good luck getting it fixed.
353【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 14:49:56
>>352
Windows Me is a lot easier to fix than NT.
also
Windows me is portable is what i learned

if you move or rename your Program files
Windows Me will still run flawlessly!
and all the settings are in the C:\windows\ directory
i can move toe original to a subdirectory and copy the original into the c:\
so i have a copied Windows Me and guess what?
IT STILL RUNS FLAWLESSLY!
354【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 14:50:50
also im still useing the not fresh Windows me i wasuseing earlyer ^^;
355【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 14:51:42
im trying to reinstall it again!
356【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 14:53:44
357名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 14:57:34
>>356
I thought I told you you'd be reported if you did that again.
It's really sad you don't understand and ignore it.
358名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 14:58:02
>>355
Try Plan B
which is "Install Vista"
>>356
upload jpg files instead. bmps are way too big.
359名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 15:02:23
>>351

虞 can convey the fear and mystery feeling more than other words meaning fear, such as 怖,恐,
because these words are used quite often in our daily lives.
(they are terrible enough, though)
It may match the atmosphere of a old temple or shrine.
360jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 15:04:34
>>359
Oooh, spooky. I like that!
361【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/14(日) 15:07:46
>>357
nobody was responding
362名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 15:50:33
>>348
I'm starting to think maybe I should purchase some used panties to increase
my intelligence too, because I see that sniffing panties is peculiar to highly
intellectual people. Anyway, glad to hear that your interview went well.
363jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 16:31:57
Slow night...
364名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 17:28:31
>>360 I didn't know the meaning of “spooky”until I looked it up. It's worth noting. BTW what day of the week is it today in the U.S?
365jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 17:29:55
>>364
Right now it is 12:29 AM on Sunday, December 14th.
366jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 17:31:02
>>364-365
Also known as 00:29
367firestar:2008/12/14(日) 17:32:47
>>364
for me it is now sunday dec 14 at 03:32
368jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 17:35:28
>>365-366
Ah, yes. That's the time on the west coast. I live in California.
The US is big, the time varies depending on where you are.
Japan is relatively Tiny. Even California is bigger.
369名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 17:38:13
>>365-367 Thanks. In Japan, it is Sunday evening. It's worth considering today is Sunday both in the two countries. This is coincidence ??
370jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 17:38:41
>>364 Anyway, you asked the day, not the time.
It's Sunday everywhere except Hawaii and probably Alaska.
It's still Saturday there.
371名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 17:42:46
I should have written “in the both countries”. Maybe.
372名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 17:46:15
I'm Japanese and live in japan, so I'm watcting Meets boy world, Greg and Darma now.
I love comedy very much, my favorit is Frazar and seinfeld.
What's your favorit comedy?
373jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 17:47:10
>>369 at 15:00 in Japan, the first part of America entered Sunday.
Mainland America covers 4 time zones.
So, if my middle-of-the-night sleepy brain can do math correctly,
Japan and America share the same day of the week for 12 hours a day.
374名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 17:48:16
>>370 Oh that is an interesting fact. Why today is holiday all over the world? When and why it is unified ?
375ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc :2008/12/14(日) 17:48:21
>>368
"Even California is bigger"? That makes it sound like California is small.
California is the third largest state, though. Its area is 423,971 sq. km.
Japan is 377,873 sq. km.
The closest states in area are Montana (380,837 sq. km.) and New Mexico (314,914 sq. km.).
...at least, that's what Wikipedia says.
376jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 17:50:59
>>371 No, either "in both countries" or "in the two countries" is correct.
"in both the two countries" is reasonable.
"In the both countries" is not correct.

>>372
I used to watch Boy Meets World long ago, when it was still new. まぁ なつかしい〜
These days, I don't watch a lot of TV. Mostly I stay at my computer.
Sometimes I watch TV. I like American Dad, Robot Chicken, and Burn Notice. That last one is more liek a drama though.
I download anime to watch though. Gintama, Zetsubou sensei, One Piece...
377jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 17:52:26
>>375
I suppose you're right that it sounds that way.
What I meant was that my state is bigger than their whole country.
378jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 17:53:50
>>374
Sorry, when I said "everywhere" i didn't mean it literally. Not the whole world.
That was within the context of the subject of America. So, "Everywhere" meant "All of the US"
...except Alaska and Hawaii.
379名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 17:55:54
What happened to BIG 3?
Do you think Obama'll bail them out?

I think America is expected to do more.
380名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 18:00:39
>>378 Thanks. But today is also holiday as in the U.S. at least in Japan. If it is Sunday rest of the world, it's interesting, isn't it ?
381jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 18:03:57
>>379 They're getting money.
I don't think the government should be saving companies though.
We're supposed to have a free market.
If a business is going to die, let it die. It's not the government's place to decide whether a private corporation will survive or not.
382firestar:2008/12/14(日) 18:06:11
>>379
well its not up to obama its up to congress. plus even if it was up to obama, he is not the person in power. bush is in power. congress rejected a bill for a bailout and the big three are going chapter 11
383jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 18:07:12
>>380
No holiday here. What are you celebrating?
The closest thing to a Holiday is the full moon last night.
In a week is the Winter solstice. That's a holiday to some people.
384名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 18:17:56
If BIG 3 is in any more trouble like applying for chapter 11,
the world economy will get more sluggish. That surely put the world into great shock.
America is asked to take action to powerfully boost the world economy,
not getting drawn into blocking imports, Or else, we should set our minds to prepare for more trouble,
worst, war.
385名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 18:23:59
>>383
Oh.. Sorry.
Umm, not holiday, but... day off ?
In other words, today is a day when people don't have to go to the offce, and students
also don't have to go to school.
Sunday isn't such a day in the U.S. ?
386jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 18:26:44
>>385
I understand. We don't use Holiday that way in America.
They have a similar meaning in Europe - to go "on holiday" is take a vacation.
I don't know if they also say it the way you were.
In America, it's a "day off"
I understand why you said it the way you did though. 休み has several possible uses.
387名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 18:34:20
>>386
Ok, I understand it.
Do you say “thanks giving day” to describe a holiday ?
388名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 18:35:19
Ok, I'll change the topic.

Do you guys remember I mentioned we have national English learning radio programs?
Do you have interest in what they're like? The programs are originally broadcast on the radio
and after that they are uploaded on the officical Internet sites for a week.
Let us hear your oinions about the lessons - like the English used in the program is funny, we
don't usually speak like that! and what not.

Here: http://www.nhk.or.jp/gogaku/english/business2/index.html
Click on "Airport Hassle" and (in my case) Windows Media Player pops up and start playing.
389firestar:2008/12/14(日) 18:45:47
>>388
i have read about these but this is the first time i have ever listened to one. i did not expect them to have this much english in them
390jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/14(日) 18:51:08
>>387 I think you've got the right idea.
391名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 19:17:30
I think that's what they're supposed to do, overacting in an animated way
that helps the audience understand the context of conversation. Characters
in most TV dramas, movies and animes are all exaggerated to the extent
that they are unrealistic, if you look at them that way.
392firestar:2008/12/14(日) 20:31:45
it would seem that each morning just before 05:00 (am) that i cant load 2ch. this stays this way for about 2 hours.
well i best be getting to bed. good night
393名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 20:42:02
I couldn't also load 2ch for about thirty minutes right before,
though living in Japan.
394名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 20:43:12
>>392Good-Night!!
395名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 21:06:28
>>389
How do you find them? Funny, wierd, useless, out-the-question?
396名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 21:07:27
>>393
Same here. That sometimes happens, though.
397名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 22:44:04
>>396
nice information.
398名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/14(日) 23:30:46
>>342
You got an A on your essay. Thumbs up!

>>348
Thank you for the explanation. So you didn't have to go all the way to
California. Good. But If you had had to, you could have had a homestay
there.
399Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 01:12:53
Hello all! I haven't been on in two days because I had to get ready for New York, which is where I am now!
Does anyone have snow yet? New York has had snow since late October, maybe I'll post a picture of our snowy house later today.
400名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 01:25:30
Where in NY do you live? Upstate NY or Manhattan?
Have you ever visted or heard of thuosand islands, which borders with Canada?

Here in western part of Japan, we haven't had snow yet.
How are you going to spend your vacation?
401名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 01:26:49
Hello, Captain Spicard.
402Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 01:54:39
>>400
I live in syracuse, NY. Very close to the great lakes, if you search on google earth.
This means that we get an insane amount of snow, because the snow can be a result of wind over the lakes traveling our way.
And yes, I've heard of the thousand islands, but I've never been there. And if anyone is wondering, upstate New York is NOTHING like New York City/Manhattan, it's pretty quiet... I live in the suburbs.
Also, how much snow do you end up getting in Japan? I figure every part of Japan gets snow at least once a year, but I'm curious to know... as I'd never live (by choice) in a place without snow.

>>401
Hello!
403Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2008/12/15(月) 02:39:23
My uncle has hit bankruptcy. Oh, American economy, you suck ass.
404名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 02:47:53
Paul Newman became a good jew three months ago.
405名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 02:48:51
>>402
We don't get much snow in the east either, maybe a couple times in a year,
though a lot in the north. So your best bet would be Hokkaido, the northern island
if you ever wanted to live in Japan. And I heard there are no roaches there,
which is quite a bonus.
I'm falling asleep, talk to you later, Captain.
406名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 02:52:10
バカにする is "make fun of someone" rather than insult someone.
insult is 侮辱する.
407名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 03:12:32
>>329
平和 is actually japanese. 平和 seems to be rarely used in China.
If it exists, it is not as frequent used as in Japanese and the meaning
must be a little different.
和平 is a traditonal word.
和平's literal translation is pacification (with military power).
So 和平 says that peace is the thing to get by power and be maintained
by power. 和平 instill people that 平和peace is the thing to protect the nation
from outer force.
平和 doesn't have deep meaning. 平和 just states the conditoion of peace.
和平 is more essential and pratical word.
We don't use 和平 except for circumstance under war. We rarely encounter
和平 in real life.
408イギリス人:2008/12/15(月) 03:47:32
>>290, >>299

The UK has often been accused of becoming a 'Big Brother' state, and
has been given that term even in national newspapers, tabloids and
television reports... so over here, at least, it's pretty commonly used.

As jook says, CCTV is extremely widespread here and you'll often see
at least three cameras at most intersections or open spaces (usually
where pubs might be), depending on where you are. In the town where
I went to university, they have been trialling CCTV systems with both
a camera and a speaker system, so operators can actively warn or shout
at people...
409Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2008/12/15(月) 04:17:15
I'm bored this morning and have been just laying around the house. I
looked at 4chan and found a thread about some guy who is teaching in
Japan... this is what he said:

"Im living the dream in Japan....Rather I live out in some puissant villiage where nobody seems to want to
associate with gaijin. Im forced to give mind numbing lessons to high school kids who dont give a shit and
work with teachers who resent me being here.
Its now my weekend but I am drinking sake by myself in my apartment listening to Electric President and
browsing image boards. Fuck you, I should never have listened to you, it sucks ass here.
pic related, its my shitty room."

The general consensus of the responses were that it was the OP's fault for being
unsociable, alienating all of his "would-be friends," and not trying to understand
the culture.

What do any Japanese posters make of this? I've heard so many mixed responses about
one's time when they went to Japan. Some say it is great and the people are polite
(outside of Tokyo) especially if you can speak Japanese. Others say it is terrible and
they have nothing to do.
410名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 04:31:05
>>402
I searched Syracuse on google earth. Yeah, It's near the lake. The right one.
I wonder when the photo was shot. It hasn't snowed in the image but they don't use
photos in which you can't see towns in detail because of snow. I challege you to
a snow ball fight.

Funny thing is that when I zoomed in a house in Chicago on google earth, I spotted
a man sniffing a panty. I think I'll report it to Google. It's an invasion
of privacy.
411名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 04:38:58
To all those in a jail, those persecuted for the cause-Your actions
were not in vain, soon the light of freedom will shine again!
And if you’ve lost your home, your job or someone that you
love-Stand your ground there’s a place for you in the Kingdom
that’s to come!

412Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 05:11:43
>>403
I'm sorry to hear it, but rest assured he isn't the only one who is feeling the pain of our economy.
>>410
Google Earth doesn't update too often, but that new 3d zoom is certainly an invasion of privacy, I'm not sure how they have gotten away with it all this time.


I got an off-topic idea: I'm going to take a picture of my house, my bedroom, and a bit of the snow. I want to compare your Japanese houses to my American suburb house! Lets see what's similar and what's not.
I'll post some pictures later today when I'm not busy (mom's friend is over, showing us pictures of her time in China).
413名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 05:15:26
>>409
OP means an opening poster? It took some time to know what it means.
I mostly agree with the opinions of 4channelers. It's his attitude and character.
But I can empathizes with him because I'm not good at socializing, too.

He's an ALT?(assistant language teacher on JET program) I don't know where he lives now
but some of them have to live in rural areas. So maybe some of ALT gets
disappointed, especially if they are rose colored life in vision in Japan.
I think he should make firiends with other ALTs living nearby and
ask some advice and ask what tips are to make the most advantage of life
in Japan.

There are lots of blogs of ALTs and some groups (community) in SNS are
for ALTs in Japan. Some ALTs upload videos in which their life in japan
is shown. Maybe it's better for him to contact with other ALTs, instead of
posting on 4ch. He may not adopt to people and life in Japan but at least
he earns a 3-3.5 milliom yen a year. That's not a bad salary for people
in early twenties.

If you're thinking of applying for JET program. It's better to conatact to
former or current ALTS. Ideal ALTs are, if you ask me, someone who's
interested in Japan, Japanese language and people in real sense, has passion about
teaching English, always thinkning about the most effecftive way for
students to improve Students English. But as for the last one, as the
4chan poster says, some low level school academically are full of lazy students
and give a damn learning English. So it may be difficult to keep
his passion about his mission.

And sorry for your uncle. In Japan, the influence of the bad economy
is spreading. Job cuts and salary cuts and all that. It's said economy
hasn't hit the bottom yet. Maybe it's just chapter 1. Oh my.
414Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 05:16:19
>>405
Interesting to know... If I ever visit Japan I'll be sure to detour there, to see if it would be a nice place to live! I'm not very tied to my home, so I wouldn't mind living in Japan so long as I enjoy the country and would have a job that I liked.
Sleep well, see you later.
415【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 05:18:02
back

os = Windows 4.90.3000 (not fresh)
i keep getting a (X) SUWIN ERROR
GENERAL PROTECTION FAULT ERROR AT
000c:195a
416【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 05:19:03
i been busy trying to fix this evil (x) ERROR
417Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 05:19:26
>>415
That doesn't mean anything to me. When are you getting it and what is it doing?
Using your normal computer?
418【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 05:20:35
yes
it is stoping the set up prossess
419Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 05:22:18
Set up process of what?
420名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 05:24:50
North western part of japan is buried by snow.
421名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 05:26:11
Why the sever of 2ch was down came to light.
Large numbers of Korean people attaked 2ch.
It's estimated that Korean people got mad because Mao Asada, a Japanese figure skater,
won the championship of the figure skate competition.
Hmmm, it's that the famous Hwabyung mental desease?

http://mamono.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1229266745/
422【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 05:27:53
>>420
were is north wester JAPAN?
423名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 05:28:01
>>420
I guess you wanted to say it's covered with snow...
424【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 05:30:07
>419
the SETUP
it gets interupted everytime
425名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 05:30:08
>>422
Probably he meant the northan west of the Japanese mainland.
426firestar:2008/12/15(月) 05:30:59
sparky, you need to format the hdd before you install an OS. if you do not you will get brokenness out of it.
boot off your xp cd, format the hdd ntfs, then install xp.
note that formating will delete all information.
427名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 05:31:14
>>412
I imagine houses in suburbs are big. Looking forward to seeing photos.

By the way, did you guys already send Christams cards?
Do you send them to friends you often see almost every day?
Sending Christmas card is obsolete and you send Christmas e-mail instead?
What's the situation like?
428【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 05:35:46
>>426
screw your xP AND WAC WAYS!
429firestar:2008/12/15(月) 05:36:54
>>428
well at least format first. thats your problem.
facepalm.jpg
430【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 05:42:28
>>429
say bye bye too ALL
OPERATING SYSTEMS, SERVER FILES, OLD FILES, GAMES, ELC.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
BOB SAGGET IM NOT DOING THAT!
431名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 05:44:00
>>423
Metaphor. Actually snow piles up to house's top.
They have to dig up snow around the house. The scenery of
The northern west of Japan looks buried under snow.
Children commute through the path with walls of snow.

Dig up is the right word?
432firestar:2008/12/15(月) 05:46:31
>>430
thats why you back up before you format and reinstall.
you really need mental help sparky
433名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 05:49:27
I probably made a mistake, influenced by the words like
north western university. What's the difference between
northern west and north western?
Northern west is noun and north western is adjective?
Is northern west university is permissible?
434名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 05:51:42
suggestion : Exchange e-mails and give him directions.
435名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 06:17:24
Native speakers disappeared?

The difference between northern west and north western.
Whether "dig up snow" is correct or not.
I want to know.
436firestar:2008/12/15(月) 06:26:32
>>435
sorry, i am here on and off.
if you are talking how we say locations in the usa,
we say north western usa, south eastern usa, etc.
we will say dig out of the snow:
"there was so much snow around my house that i had to dig my way out"
437Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 06:36:37
>>429
This. If it's a OS you are trying to install... speaking of which I got to get Slackware installed on my laptop later tonight.

Okay anyway, here's some pictures of my house in New York, incase anyone was interested of what such a house looks like. Does it look similar to you? Anything different?
Back yard: http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/charpersondude/PC140007.jpg
Mom's room: http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/charpersondude/PC140010.jpg
My bed: http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/charpersondude/?action=view¤t=PC140012.jpg
Living room: http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/charpersondude/?action=view¤t=PC140013.jpg
House: http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/charpersondude/PC140014.jpg

Also yes, the tiny laptop and huge headphones in the living room picture are mine, because no one else in my family is crazy enough for that.
438ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc :2008/12/15(月) 06:40:21
>>433
I don't think "northern west university" is correct.
The word is actually "northwest"--one word, a combination of "north" and "west".
So, it's probably "northwestern university".
439名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 06:40:22
>>436
I see.
Northern west of USA is North western USA if I'm right.
440名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 06:43:57
>>438
How about the university of northwest?
I might not be adequate words for the proper name though.
441Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 06:45:21
>>440
Sounds awkward. the University IN THE northwest sounds better
442名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 06:49:41
>>437
Hearth is typical american thing. We rarely see herth
in houses. It's probably luxurious thing in Japan.
I heard hearth was the tool to make the love scene
romantic in the movies and tv dramas.
Size of your house seems to be not bigger than that of japanese typical houses.
Smaller than I expected.
The picture of backyard is blurring but maybe bigger than
averaga japanese ones.
By the way I'm not the one who has been chatting with you.
443名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 06:51:06
>>441
Thank you.
444Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 07:01:48
>>442
>"I heard hearth was the tool to make the love scene
romantic in the movies and tv dramas."
That's a funny way to look at it, and it's true that it is used in some rommance scences.
It's not that we need a fireplace (we don't call it a hearth here), I mean, we have heating through gas and electical appliances...
but fireplaces are just something nice to be around with your family... it is extra warm and peaceful.

As for the size: Our house average for where we live, the size you would expect an American suburb house to be.
They can be much larger, but where we live this is the middle class (40-80k dollars a year) area of the city.

As for the yard: Our yard is also average for where we live, but some places can have almost no yard, or if they are in a more rural part of America people can have many many acres of land (we only have a quarter acre I believe)
445名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 07:01:55
>>437
As >>442 said, the size of your house is samller than I imagined, too.
I thought the fireplace is the biggest differences. We don't have it in our house.
Santa in Japan come in by opening one of the windows.

On the left side of the photo of the living room, is it a wig?

By the way I'm neither >>442 nor the northewestern guy.
446sparky(4 ^-^) @[]@ ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 07:04:43
compy = boom box time compy4
Microsoft Windows ME 4.90.3000
Clean install using Full OEM CD /T:C:\WININST0.400 /SrcDir=J:\WIN9X /IZ /IS /IQ /IT /II /NZ /II /C
IE 5 5.50.4134.0100
Uptime: 0:00:12:37
Normal mode
On "OLD GEEZARD" as "sparky4"

GenuineIntel Pentium(r) Processor @166Mhz MMX (OH YEAH!)
128MB RAM
76% system resources free
Windows-managed swap file on drive F (175MB free)
Available space on drive C: 989MB of 2047MB (FAT)
Available space on drive D: 179MB of 2047MB (FAT)
Available space on drive E: 408MB of 1050MB (FAT)
Available space on drive F: 175MB of 1999MB (FAT)
Available space on drive G: 78MB of 603MB (FAT)
Available space on drive H: 282MB of 282MB (FAT)
447Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 07:06:56
>>445
My mom's reaction to your mention of the wig was "It's a what?!"
Almost nobody uses wigs in America. That's her natural hair, she just had dyed it reddish brown recently.

But as I mentioned in a previous post, houses can be much larger in America, this is just the average size of houses in the area that I'm in.
448firestar:2008/12/15(月) 07:10:15
hearths are just put in american homes out of building traditions.
there was once a time that fireplaces were used to heat a home and cook food. but now they just put them in homes for the sake of it being a tradition.
449sparky(4 ^-^) @[]@ ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 07:10:16
i can slow it down to 100 Mhz or slower

TOO SLOW
FOR WINDOWS ME
450名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 07:14:52
>>447
And the bed and desk. That type of the desk and bed is to save spaces and
suits for a Japanese house. Becasuse a desk is under the bed and looks like
using space effectively.

LOL I thought it's a wig placed on something. But the "someting" is actually her body.
She's looking at the monitor of the CD. Now I see that. Maybe that's because I am awake
all night.

Say hello to your mom and say that your son is always wasting his time in 4chan and 2ch.
451Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 07:14:56
>>448
Not only that, but not all homes have fireplaces. I'd say only about 70% of homes in my state do, but down in florida where it is extra warm, I bet nobody has fireplaces.
So mostly, people buy a house with a fireplace as a benefit, not as a necessity.
452firestar:2008/12/15(月) 07:15:22
>>448
same with a living room. at one time it was improper to bring guests in to the main portion of a home, so a special room was made for this, this it was also used for dead people. its just a tradition to have these places now
453firestar:2008/12/15(月) 07:17:06
why am i suddenly getting an error message if i try to put in more than 2 sentences worth of text? this is new. am i being censored?
454Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 07:18:05
Firestar, did you try to put it in one line? It won't let me make really really long lines.
455名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 07:20:26
The number increasing on the left bottom of the page shows total photos
of Photobacket? It's up to the minute number?
If so, WOW, Someone somewhere on earth now even at this moment is adding
new photos.....
456firestar:2008/12/15(月) 07:20:30
>>452
ya there are not many traditions for heating a home down there. hot as hell down there. i can't stand it.
457firestar:2008/12/15(月) 07:21:36
>>454
so more than one line works then? i shall remember that.
458Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 07:22:35
>>455
Several sites have those, I think they lie to make people think it is a good site, to get people to join.
459firestar:2008/12/15(月) 07:22:40
>>455
Photobacket is an uber popular site
460名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 07:28:01
>>458
Lie? But if they have millions of members, somewhere someone at this very
moment is adding photos.

>>459
Flicr (sp?) is more popular as far as I know.
461Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 07:29:28
>>460
Well, I figure it would be pretty obnoxious to put a image that counts the uploads of images to their server. Anything's possible, but I really don't think they would go to all that trouble when they could just fake it.
462【火花(4 ^-^)】 @[]@ ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 07:30:36
compy4 is offline for maintainence
(reinstalling windows me)
火花 【ひばな】
(n) spark, (P)

火花放電 【ひばなほうでん】
(n) spark discharge
463名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 07:32:13
How do you pronuce, uber?

oober? or ahber
464Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 07:33:19
oober.
465Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 07:33:50
Furthermore, it's actually a German word!
466【火花(4 ^-^)】 @[]@ ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 07:35:12
compy4 is online

Windows 2000 wireless
467名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 07:36:25
>>465
Thank you.

Yeah, I checked the meaning of it on urbandictionary.com and know it
came from German but didn't know how to pronounce it.
468【火花(4 ^-^)】 @[]@ ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 07:51:49
http://4chan.b33r.net:88/3/
temperary upload directory
(the harddrive that contains the actual /upload/ folder is unplugged ^^;
469【火花(4 ^-^)】 @[]@ ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 07:52:53
server is down because of restart!!!!!11
470名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 08:05:43
Japanese houses are usually not furnished with hearth and chimney.
In showing district, irori(open hearth?) is replaced for hearth.
We can only see them in old fashioned houses in the cold rural area.
471名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 08:06:29
We don't care whether the server is up or down.
472名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 08:09:00
I mean "snowy district".
473【火花(4 ^-^)】 @[]@ ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 08:13:51
....
>>471

that was cruel.
474linger:2008/12/15(月) 08:21:11
>>413
>OP means an opening poster?

Technically "original poster," but yeah, same thing.

>>442
Not just romance, but it's really nice to sit by a warm fireplace with your family. Nostalgic family togetherness and all.

>460
But I have a photobucket account, and haven't uploaded a picture since a a year ago :P
475名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 08:37:15
>>474
Are there any specific benefits if you have an account on photobacket?
In case of youtube, even if you don't upload videos, you can comment on videos
as far as you have an account.
476【火花(4 ^-^)】 @[]@ ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 08:50:05
anyway
im curious about DOS computers and Japan
i only have 1 picture of one
477名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 08:52:33
478名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 08:56:03
>>446
I'm now serching for information about how people are banned from posting in 2ch.
I've already found out there's a board specifically set up for reporting trolls.
I'll collect your previous/current/future posts like this one to report.
479【火花(4 ^-^)】 @[]@ ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 09:04:18
>>477

impossible
btw I HATE PORN
480名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 09:12:55
94 posts are made by【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso, most of which are intended to spam/copy&paste AAs.
481名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 09:17:55
>>477
Sparky never talks about porn stuff here so he's not the type mention in the
article.

>>478
I know what you mean. Sometimes his posts are annoying.

So sparky, this is just my opinion but take a listen to it.
This is a thread for chatting in English so you can chat whatever you
want. You can chat your PC, Windows Me, or whatever.
But this isn't "talking to yourself" isn't chatting.
If you want one way conversation, it might be better to start your own
blog or something about your PC or server. In yuor blog, you can write
whatever you want. You are the boss there.

Or else, you can set your own rule in which you can post as many as ten posts about
your PC here in this thread. This is just my opinion.
482【火花(4 ^-^)】 @[]@ ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 09:28:01
>>477
im going to get a knife to kill myself
483firestar:2008/12/15(月) 09:29:27
>>482
please do so
484名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 09:31:07
That doesn't work any more. Do it if you can. No one cares.
485【火花(4 ^-^)】 @[]@ ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 09:32:31
im stress out right now!

please be pacient with me!
486名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 09:33:32
>>485 is saved on my pad note to report.
487【火花(4 ^-^)】 @[]@ ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 09:44:51
op = the person who posted the open post
or
open post
488linger:2008/12/15(月) 10:05:22
>>475
I don't know...I just use it to upload photos.

Also, yaaaay, the Black God anime will be airing in the US:
http://www.bandai-ent.com/
489firestar:2008/12/15(月) 10:31:51
>>475
it is for uploading photos if you don't have any web hosting. i have got my own personal web hosting so i don't have a need for photobacket.
490firestar:2008/12/15(月) 10:33:13
>>488
i have not heard of kurokami, is it to be good?
491【火花(4 ^-^)】 @[]@ ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 10:33:54
it can host more than photos
492名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 11:22:49
493名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 11:28:52
He avoided the shoes perfectly. Nicely done
494firestar:2008/12/15(月) 11:30:03
>>492
ya i saw a video of that.
poor bush. well he has got good reflexes
495linger:2008/12/15(月) 11:30:12
>>489
>>490

firestar, you're not a native English speaker, right?
496firestar:2008/12/15(月) 11:32:55
>>495
i am a native english speaker from pennsylvania who came here from 4chan several days ago to make sure sparky does not give us a bad name.
497名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 11:43:23
Gorge.W.Bush has the talent of boxing.
If the showes had hit the face of Bush critically, the honor of America would have been
seriously degraded. a
But firestar might have pleased with it because Bush is responsible for the corrent economic turmoil.
(I'm not sure know who should really be responsible for it.)
498linger:2008/12/15(月) 11:43:44
>>496
>i
>Photobacket
>is it to be
>this it was also
>its
>thats
>formating

( ̄〜 ̄;)

Well....whatever.
499firestar:2008/12/15(月) 11:48:08
>>498
shows don't it?
haha
500firestar:2008/12/15(月) 11:50:35
>>497
Bush is not responsible. there are many many factors spread through out the past several decades which allowed this to happen.
he is simply but a part of a larger whole.

501名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 11:56:19
>>500
I leanrn it. Thanks.
502名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 12:09:16
>>409
Live watching. It's funny. No privacy.
Administrators can enjoy watching making the excuse that it's their job.
I want to do this job.
503名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 12:28:38
>>421
Kim got unreasonable advantages over asada, still loseing to asada.
Media didn't report the fraud at all. Media is preoccupied with
asada's win and take this chance to hide an inconvinent thing. I think the fraud
matters more than asada's win. Media would have hardly reported the fraud
even if asada had lost.
I said f5 attack was the korean invention.
When something doesn't feel good and right for koreans, it will become
Japanese (anthing's) fault.
504Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 12:36:28
>>496
I take it you are from /g/ then?
505名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 12:37:19
>>500
agreed. Thinking about the acting period of Greespan, it is clear.
Greenspan was once called Maestro. His reputation faild.
Greespan was just the same
as former CEO of financial institutions who jumped overboard before
ship sunk.
506名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 12:42:44
According to Bush,
the size of the showes thrown toward him was about ten inch.
507firestar:2008/12/15(月) 12:43:43
>>504
ya i came at the same time you did. due to that thread in /g/ last tuesday
508名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 12:52:23
I remember the arrival of the time of Captain and firestar.
It is sure that you came here at the same time.
I had thought that you were known to each other before coming here.

BTW, I grasp the character of linger and firestar less than other native speakers
who has own handle name.
509Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 12:53:28
>>507
Oh. Well you have been awfully nice, so I figured you couldn't have been from /g/.
Where are your mac threads? Where are my Opera threads?
510Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 12:58:30
>>508
People on 4chan often post anonymously. I don't, but because firestar had, I didn't know that he was from 4chan.
511名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 13:00:05
The name of Captain Spicard makes me associate with a general of SF movie,
because I see a person who has a similar name often in that kind of American movies.

Do you have a taste in a SF movie
512Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 13:05:19
I'm a fan of Star Trek, if that's what you mean.
513名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 13:07:11
>>510
Ummm, I understand it.
【note】Firestar and Captain Spicard was in the same thread of 4ch, but firestar
didn't use habdlename, so Captain Spicard couldn't recognize him.【memo】
514Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 13:09:40
>>513
Right. If you ever visited 4chan you would know what I mean.
515名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 13:15:05
>>512
Oh! It is invaluable information because I have a several question abour Star trek.
@Does the TV program broadcast now ?
ADo you know that Stephen William Hawking, who is the one of the most famous theoretical physicists,
has appeared on it?

Star Trek inspired you to name yourself as Captain Spicard ?
516Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 13:20:31
>>515
It airs now, but it only replays of old episodes.

Also, yes I did know that Stephen Hawking appeared on it... but I can't remember what episode.

And yes, Captain Spicard is a similar name to Captain Picard, one of the best characters in any Star Trek.
517名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 13:26:59
>>516
Thanks.
I'm being surprised to see your name is very similar to the character of
the Star Trek.
It may be proved that my assumption was correct.
Ok, thanks agian.
518【sparky(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 13:28:50
Do you know anyone more annoying then me?
519名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 13:31:01
>>518
Why are you saying that ?
You may be slightly annoying people here sometimes,
but it's ok at least for me.
520【sparky(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 13:32:14
because over 9000 people find me annoying
because i seem to be repetitive
....
i have bad social skills

521firestar:2008/12/15(月) 13:33:01
>>519
don't feed the troll
522ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc :2008/12/15(月) 13:34:02
Recently, I've been playing Left4Dead.
It seems pretty fun.
Does anyone else here play it?
523Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/15(月) 13:35:50
>>520
Perhaps because you talk to yourself too much (like right now)
Nobody likes this, but everyone would be okay with you if you didn't talk to yourself so much.
This isn't a blog... you should actually talk to us rather than just talking about yourself to yourself.
And I don't want to hear you say that you want to kill yourself, because thats just more of talking to yourself.
524名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 13:36:28
>>520
It's not hard to stop posting the same comments.
All you have to do is just to post one comment every topics.
Over 9000 people ?
How did you know that?
525firestar:2008/12/15(月) 13:37:33
>>524
"over 9000" is a 4chan meme
526【sparky(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 13:39:29
>>524
because
i been in many places in the internets
also im famous
and i been online scince 2003

i know over 9000 people hate me
527名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 13:42:12
>>525
I see.
BTW, it's too much to call him as a troll.
Compared with the korean spammer, spraky is good enough,
and he is only in his teens.
528【sparky(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 13:49:55
>>527
yes this is true!
529名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 13:51:08
>>526
You had better reduce the amount of time to browse the internets because
you are to young to devote yourself to the cyber space.
Avarage students in Japan are struggling to study to enter university.
When you are tired of your real life, then come here and talk to us.
530【sparky(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 13:54:27
>>529
wut life?
anyway
you are right

im also on the brink of suicide here.
night
531名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 13:54:48
>>528
But be careful, if you continue to waste your time on the internet,
you must have hard time in your daily life in the near future.
532アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/15(月) 13:58:42
>>522
hells yea, that game is awesome. I've been playing with my friends a good amount.

Sorry I haven't been posting much but I've been really busy. Today I had to scramble to get all my homework done
so I could go to a concert. I didn't exactly get all my homework done, but it was totally worth it because some of the band members signed my t-shirt.
In Japan, are concerts really intimate (in the sense the audience is jam packed together)? I only ask because I know in general Japanese are less "touchy feely".
533名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 13:59:12
>>530
Good night.
You can come here any time you feel depressed but you have to recognize there
also enermies here...
534【sparky(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 14:00:19
>>533
more enemies on the English speaking internet.
night
...im bleeding....
535名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 14:07:20
>>532
If you go to the place called `live house` in Japan, you are packed together
and as a result, your skin is supposed to touch others, regardless of their gender.
(This is what I heard from acquaintances)

We hardly hug each other and I have thought it quite natural.
In the U.S., the situation differs from the one in Japan ?
536名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 14:13:02
>>522
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_4_Dead
There is a Windows version! I didn't know it. I gotta go to buy.
537名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 14:19:36
Apparently, some korean are tying to get rid of sparky to start to propaganda thier country as he fades out.
538アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/15(月) 14:23:31
>>535
Well at least for the concerts I've been to it's always been jam packed.
In my opinion it's more fun that way (and having girls around in these cases is a definite bonus, is that vain of me to say?).
However, the bands I like attract a younger demographic (aka hipsters), so I'd be
surprised if an older demographic would act similarly.

This is the band I saw: http://www.myspace.com/canseidesersexy
trance/high energy bands are the most fun to see live I think.
539名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 14:32:31
>>538
No, it's quite natural to think so, if you are male.lol

T have bever been to the trance concert but I think it very nice.
I can imagine how people there become insane though.lol
540名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 14:42:14
>>538
Considering your having sniffed the panties of host hamilies,
it doesn't big matter. >゜))彡

This is a small joke, sorry.(^^)
541【sparky(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 14:49:38
>>537
>Apparently, some korean are tying to get rid of sparky to start to propaganda thier country as he fades out.
WHAT?

zzzzzzz.
night

for real this time!
542アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/15(月) 14:54:13
>>540
High five, good sir.
543名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 15:00:17
If I remember correctly, アメリカ人san is a high school student.
Am I wrong ?
544【sparky(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 15:13:37
トランスいいね^^
what dose this mean?
545Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2008/12/15(月) 15:32:48
>>522
I played through the four movies and quit... It was fun the first time
around, but really, even if the zombies come randomly... it is all the
same shit, isn't it? I tried the versus for a bit, that was OK, but it
got stale quickly. Some people think the versus is just amazing, though.

The only game I've really been playing for like.. the past year is Medieval II: Total War.
It is just warcraft / statecraft strategy game set in the middle ages.

>>538

I nearly cringed at how hipster that band is. It is almost like they are making fun
of hipsters.
546名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 15:39:33
>>544
"Trance music is good and I love it, too."

is what she/he meant.
547アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/15(月) 15:41:37
>>543
yup, I'm in my last year of high school.
>>544
trance is good, isn't it?
>>545
Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
548名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 15:43:41
various music stuffs are nice for me.
549名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 15:46:45
>>547
The tempo of their music is slower than I thought.
It didn't sound me like a head-banging type of band.
Did you spot the band on myspace or you had heard of them befor?
550名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 15:47:39
>>422

I got it yesterday! I'm an Ausfag so it cost a lot of money, but I've been playing with friends and it was so worth it!
551名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 15:52:32
You're talking about a game you plat with PC?
Doesn't playing a game with PC require Good graphic card performance?
You have installed good one for your PC for gaming?
552Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2008/12/15(月) 15:58:11
>>547

Haha, I'm probably around the same age as you, but I have to say you are mature for your
age... I don't know many people who would have responded so passively. I liked the music,
but I couldn't find any trance. Was that supposed to be trance?

I thought trance was stuff like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKWqvvqNfBs - Drifting Away
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk-FFrfE0kk - Passage D - The Flashbulb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDBNldCAYZI - Lucid Bass II

I used to listen to Lucid Bass when getting... trippy... a time ago.
553名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 16:00:02
早急に知りたいので、他スレとの重複すみません
(一応、質問系のスレを選んでるつもりなんですが)

何かを質問(または相談)されて、ぶっちゃけオマエ次第じゃね
?の場合、
It's up to you  でいいでしょうか?
554Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2008/12/15(月) 16:01:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5igNue4PLDI - Beautiful Things
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI_GbIt7qus&feature=related - Sensual Data

"Beautiful Things" is just fuckin brilliant. There are a number of remixes of that
song which are even better, but I can't find them on the internet. I'm definitely sure
that that song is trance.
555名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 16:42:12
Be careful not to be addicted to trance musics.
They have a power to do so.
556名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 17:02:46
The news that shoes having been thrown to Bush has broadcasted in Japan.
His way of having dudged stuff was quick and stunning.
557名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 17:36:32
>>555
He can be a boxer after he retired from president.
558名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 18:08:34
Let me know what to do tonight……………………
559名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 18:50:40
>>558
1 Try to admit you are a mediocre person.
2 Officially announce you are watching a porn.
3 Disguise yourself as Columbus.
560名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 19:25:56
>>559
4 You are a korean definitely
561名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 21:13:37
http://72.14.235.132/search?q=cache:HtDorew9cNQJ:www.gq.com/+GQ&hl=ja&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=jp&lr=lang_en

She's a BOBM! Can't believe she's 39 years old.
I would love to caress her body all over.
562【sparky(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 22:05:33
トランスいいね^^

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5321419
563名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 22:13:49
sure thing
564【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 22:23:52
http://4chan.b33r.net/My%20Pictures/[email protected]
here we go i fixed all of it now!

do you like my regerstration?
Registered to sparky4
org = 四葉☆ちゃんねる
565【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 22:27:12
Microsoft Windows ME 4.90.3000
On "COMPY4" as ""
Gateway, Inc.
GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
511MB RAM

Is this the world's fastest Windows Me pc?
566名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 22:31:52
Idots are idiots regardless of race, creed, color, culture, and gender
567名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 22:40:24
>>565
Saved to report.
568【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 22:58:32
>Is this the world's fastest Windows Me pc?
>>567
I WAS ASKING A QUESTION
569名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 23:01:26
Idiots from all over the world, get lost!
570【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/15(月) 23:02:48
>>569
What is your nationality?
571名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 23:31:04
robotinbeppu
572名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 23:40:35
I'm not from this world.
I'm from somewhere down below.
I'm from somewhere sulfur burns with a blue flame,
where you will go after you breathe the last breath on earth.
573名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/15(月) 23:55:28
Sparky, don't care of thier bullshit. Korean like to act the bully.
They are cranking on something since their star missed the figure skating game.
574【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 00:01:43
>>573
>They are cranking on something since their star missed the figure skating game.
wwwwwwwwwww
575firestar:2008/12/16(火) 00:09:40
sparky, shouldn't you be in high school right now?
576【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 00:34:25
>>575
yes

im in class now

multitasking
577名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 00:36:17
Detension room is waiting for you....
578【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 00:44:21
>>577
CHAD IT UP ON A MONDAY MORING!
CHAD IT UP ON A WEDNESDAY NIGHT
CHAD IT UP ON A FIRIDAY NIGHT
CHAD IT UP ON A SATURDAY MORING!
wwww
579Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2008/12/16(火) 00:44:41
Sparky! Pay attention in class so you don't end up in some third rate
university! If you think the English speaking internet is bad, just wait
till you see those people.
580名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 00:54:36
The English speaking internet is not as bad as English nerds in face to face.
That is scary. www
581名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 01:23:45
>>580
What happens ?
I think nerds generally have mild mind.
582名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 01:38:42
What do you learn in high school and junior high school about PC in America, UK or other countires except Japan?
You learn how to use Word and excell, maybe Power Point, too, or other stuff?
You even learn photoshop? Net literacy and all that?
583firestar:2008/12/16(火) 01:41:10
>>582
usa here.
there are ms office classes. this is required in most schools. other classes which are optional include photoshop, programming, etc.
584名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 01:46:31
>>583
Thanks. Are there assignment in the classes? Or there was a class where
You have to do presentation in front of other students with Power Point?
585【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 01:46:39
>>582
USA here
my school do not offer that
anymore
586名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 01:49:00
>>585
I see. You are posting with your cell phone now or with PC at school?
If you're online with PC, I wonder why your school has PC at school?
587firestar:2008/12/16(火) 01:53:15
>>584
yes. and yes.
588【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 01:55:42
lappy4 is my note taking computer
589名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 01:57:49
Is there any Apple II generation here?
590firestar:2008/12/16(火) 01:58:14
>>589
i have one
591名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:00:37
I have a pc, but I can't make most of it.
Maybe, I know about less than 3 percent of the functions and systems.
I don't even know what a type of pc this is.
The IT industries are amazingly deveroping now, though.
592【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 02:01:58
>>591
i was like that a 10 years ago
593名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:04:09
>>590
Which one is it? The original? //+? //e? //c? or //GS?
594名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:04:32
>>592
Oh, but you have more knoledge about pc than people around you do ?
595firestar:2008/12/16(火) 02:06:06
>>593
the c
596名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:06:07
One of my friends had a Apple II, though I bought a MSX.
597【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 02:07:23
>>594 right now YES!
598名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:09:18
>>595
Is it //c with a 5 inch drive or 3.5?
I'm curious.
599【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 02:09:36
I respect the Apple I, ][, and III computers
600【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 02:10:59
my boom box Windows Me compy has a 5.25 floppy dive
601【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 02:11:46
drive*
wwww
602名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:12:18
>>600
Can it take 2DD disks?
603【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 02:16:36
>>446
b:\ can take 5.25 1.2Mb disks
604名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:17:39
You're under surveillance.
605名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:20:01
>>578
Saved as a nonsense post in all capital letters for provocation.
606【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 02:20:01
i like 5.25 floppy disks

do anyone here like them too?
607firestar:2008/12/16(火) 02:20:15
>>598
i have an external expansion drive so i can take different sizes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_IIc
608名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:21:15
Today, the tv problem about the atomic bomb in Hiroshima was broadcasted.
One of the scientists who were responsible for developing atomic bombs visited Hiroshima,
where he interviewed two victims.
They argued with each other through an interpreter but couldn't reach matual understanding, as was assumed.
(report)
609【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 02:25:35
im going offline until this afternoon^^
(no nice people here)
see you soon^^
610名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:26:14
>GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Is this true, Sparky? You could install even Vista with no problem.
611名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:27:36
>>609
take it easy, bye
612firestar:2008/12/16(火) 02:30:19
>>610
vista is a pile of shit
613名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:32:26
>>612
Do you also use Windows?
614名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:32:52
>a pile of shit
interesting pharase
I will keep it in mind
615名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:36:05
well, it's time to go bed
it'll be 3:00 am after 15 minutes.
good night
616firestar:2008/12/16(火) 02:40:00
>>613
i have XP installed on my lappy as my primary os for that puter.
my main computer is my desktop which is an apple imac running leopard.
617名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:49:17
>>612
Fraking A!
618名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:49:21
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YGmZMOOHhLU
I dedicate this song to Irish *** here.
619名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 02:50:23
>>616
Making most of "BootCamp"?
620firestar:2008/12/16(火) 02:51:36
>>619
i use bootcamp to boot into windows xp to play the game Half-Life 2.
this only happens every several months.
i am no gamer.
621【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 02:57:31
>>610
must answer question before i go
>GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
yes this is 100% true
http://4chan.b33r.net/my%20pictures/+meeeecpuinfo.bmp
http://4chan.b33r.net/my%20pictures/+meeeembinfo.bmp
http://4chan.b33r.net/my%20pictures/+meeeememinfo.bmp

ok all questions been answered bye!
622firestar:2008/12/16(火) 02:57:59
>>621
.bmp

facepalm.jpg
623名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 03:19:37
>>588
Is it common to use PC for notetaking?
624【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 03:28:42
>>623
In The area i live a,
NO!
It is very very very very rare.
625名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 03:30:59
>>624
Then why do teachers allow you to use your PC for notetaking?
626【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 03:40:42
i take notes faster on pc than paper
also to save paper
627名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 03:46:50
>>626
I don't think it's the matter of how fast you can teke notes.
I'm asking about rules of your school. If students who think they can take
notes faster on PC want to bring their PC to school, your school's teachers
allow them to do that?
628名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 03:55:23
Sieg Heil!
629【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 04:37:28
yes
630Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs :2008/12/16(火) 04:54:26
>>626
This. My Eee keyboard is perfect, and I take notes so fast on it.
631名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 05:34:12
Hail Victory!
632名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 06:07:00
Knock knock?
633【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 06:22:08
Who's therE?
634名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 06:28:14
Idle
635名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 06:58:09
Idle who?
636名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 07:09:17
I'd look up Sparky when I had a chance to visit Louisiana.
637Adolf Hitler:2008/12/16(火) 07:09:30
Might is right!
638名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 07:15:04
>>636
I hope you are not 7 years old girl.
639名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 07:20:48
>>638
Hey, knock knock joke works for English learners.

I'm a 5 year old transexual, by the way.
640アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/16(火) 07:31:03
>>549
>>552
Yea I didn't mean to imply CSS was trance, although some of their songs are kinda
trance/techno vibe-ish. I dunno, maybe I just like "indie" (wtf is that even?) music.
This is a song from another band I saw recently (best live concert ever): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHFUXH4PP5c

I haven't discovered any bands on myspace, my friends usually recommend new bands for me.
Oh and those are some pretty sweet songs Tennessean.

>>637
Your oratory skills amaze me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2MCGKcAl70
641名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 07:33:23
>>636
アジア訛りで充分だろ
東洋人丸出しの顔で白人気取りに見えんのも逆に痛いし
642keira:2008/12/16(火) 08:41:46
Surprise visit!

>>640
Oh, it's Of Montreal! They're pretty cool :3
I've recently been in Los Campesinos!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc4GethJnBg
I kind of lean towards "indie" type stuff too. It's not really a genre, but there's no real way to describe it~
643keira:2008/12/16(火) 08:44:21
been into* I meant to say. x3
644名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 08:58:48
Hi Keira!
645Adolf Hitler:2008/12/16(火) 09:27:28
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YGmZMOOHhLU
>>640
Watch this, white irish comrade!
I know you are blonde!
There is no class. Only race!
646【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 09:40:45
>>636
what?
647【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 09:59:16
Sapper proposed a design inspired by the Shōkadō bentō, a traditional black-lacquered Japanese lunch box.[6]

The fold-out butterfly keyboard, which appeared in the ThinkPad 701 series, is widely considered a design masterpiece and is on display at the Museum of Modern Art in New York.
i love the Thinkpad~!
648【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 10:00:01
>>647
ohh i realized that is a shitty post!
SORRY!
>_<
649【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 10:53:17
>>645
obvious troll is obvious
650アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/16(火) 10:57:57
>>642
I checked out a bunch more of Los Campesinos' songs after I saw your youtube link.
I'm really digging them, thanks for the recommendation.

Hey y'all check it out, more douchebags giving gaijin a bad name: http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=7820
I think the worst is the one guy basically mocking everyone with his terrible Japanese (which he obviously knows is terrible).

Oh, I'll probably start working on my 文化祭 presentation later tonight.
651firestar:2008/12/16(火) 11:02:20
>>650
wow raging
652名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 11:12:03
>>649
adjective troll is adjective

↑This way of saying is popular now ?
ex)Successfull troll is successfull.
653名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 11:19:49
douchebags=rude tourists?
654名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 11:39:14
>>650
That wouldn't realize how stupid that is until that dies.
Never permit that kind of man to visit Japan!
655【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 11:45:14
>>652
it has been popular ^^;
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/X_Y_is_X
is int that original long cat IN JAPAN?
656名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 11:46:29
The last two guys are French, as one of them say to the Japanese worker
with mocking.
I recognized that French people is like that.
657名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 11:50:46
>>655
Wow, thanks!
658名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 11:52:25
>>655
On the background, posters written in Japanese is attached.
So, your assumption is right!!
659【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 12:15:37
>>657
no problem ^^

>>658
THE ORIGINAL LONG CAT IS IN JAPAN?

JAPAN JUST GOT EVEN MORE AWESOME THAN BEFORE!
AND IT IS ALREADY THE MOST AWESOME!
660【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 12:27:34
>>650

2 words
ばかがいじん
661アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/16(火) 13:00:59
>>653
douchebag is basically a synonym for asshole.
Although douche and bag separately have very different definitions.
662Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2008/12/16(火) 13:26:48
Japan has an bizarre obsession with cats. Why is that?
663firestar:2008/12/16(火) 13:39:36
664【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 13:39:41
>>662
that my friend is a mystery!
they just LOVE cats!
like
Panama LOVES Dogs!
665アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/16(火) 13:46:53
Oh wow, if anyone can provide me with some more information about Japanese Cultural Festival it'd be much appreciated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Cultural_Festival is the most specific info I can find besides some blogs posts (which don't have anything I don't know already).
666jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/16(火) 13:55:12
>>650
I visited tsukiji market when I was in Japan.
Unfortunately, my group got off to a late start, so we got there after most of the action had finished.
If I saw people acting like this when I was around, I think their bad behavior would reflect on me.
I'd deck him, I think. And drag him away.
667jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/16(火) 13:57:19
>>665
Japan seems to be proud of their many fold festivals. They are seasonal, and sometimes even local.
When I was there, I was in Fukuoka just in time to miss the yamakasa festival. People build huge, decorative floats, and carry them in a sort of parade, I guess.
They even race with them. I have some pictures of some, even under construction - the festival was the week after I came home, so I didn't get to see it.
I was able to see some of the prep work in a couple places though.
668名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 13:59:39
>>665
Sometimes, a private university invites famous singers when Cultural Festival being held,
and in the rare case, famous a singer or talent comes to school as a surprise guest(I don't know this phrase is correct or not)
wihout informing students of that.
669jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/16(火) 14:00:18
>>66
Oh, I'm thinking of the wrong thing.
Feel free to disregard 667, everyone.
670名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 14:02:06
>>662
You're a subhuman cat, aren't you?
671名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 14:04:49
>>662
It's because when 2ch opened about nine years ago, first of the kind acsii art like the cat, is so called monar created here then.
Monar has been used frequently on here.
Sometimes people on here are confusing curious onlookers with the cat.
Also there were cases in which was called Neomugicha incident, The 2002 Japan animal cruelty case, etc.
That's why they intend to be lead to obsession.
672名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 14:08:01
>>669
Don't worry.
Well I guess what you described by (huge, decorative floats)
is mikoshi in Japanese.
Please remember it!

673【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 14:09:09
>>671
   ∧_∧  / ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄
  ( ´∀`)< オマエモナー
  (    )  \_____
  | | |
  (__)_)
this is mona
YOU TOO
SO DO YOU!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2channel_Shift_JIS_art
674【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 14:10:55
night everyone!
MIDTERMS ARE SOON!
also
Giko, Shii-chan, and Boon all appear in a graphical IRC client known as Gikobar (BARギコっぽいONLINE).
my intrnets home
675名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 14:23:10
>>663
It looks like an Alien.
I'm sure that such kinds of creatures must be living in area 51.
676名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 14:28:30
>>674
gikkopoi is dangerous for health
it might be better for you to avoid visiting the place for many hours

ok, good night!
677firestar:2008/12/16(火) 14:29:09
>>675
do you really think that there are ETs at groom lake?
678jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/16(火) 14:29:22
>>672
Are you saying that's what the floats are called?

When I said "I'm thinking of the wrong thing" I meant about the festivals.
It turns out アメリカ人 was talking about school festivals. I was thinking of matsuri in general.
679名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 14:32:44
>>678
Ummm, I think my way of writing was incorrect.

>It turns out アメリカ人 was talking about school festivals. I was thinking of matsuri in general
I know, of course.

>Are you saying that's what the floats are called?
Yes.
680jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/16(火) 14:36:02
>>679
I understand then. Thanks!
I don't think I ever heard the name for those floats while I was there.

...No, that's probably wrong. I must have. I guess I forgot.
681名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 14:46:51
>>680
If you want to join the members carring the float(mikoshi),
you can say “僕もみこしをかついでいいですか?” to them and then
you can join them!
682名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 14:51:58
>>677
Honestly speaking, I don't bleave it at all.
683【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 14:52:36
Why isn't people using my board?
684名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 14:57:37
(>>682)
I might say that in an exaggerated way.
I very-very slightly believe that ETs exist in area 51,
because I often hear UFOs takes off from that!!(I know it's a just rumor.)
685firestar:2008/12/16(火) 14:59:55
>>684
like in the x-files (tv show)
686名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 15:03:50
>>683
Japanese TV shows often say that UFO are witnessed often in U.S.A or
Mexico.
It says that a lot of people have seen UFOs especially in Mexico.
I know Luisiana locates in south part of the U.S.A, which is near to Mexico.
So, I have an question.
Have you seen UFOs in your life ?
687名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 15:08:03
>>685
Yes, and I know the tv show.

Then, how do you think about UFOs ? Do you believe the existence?
688名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 15:13:32
>>683
where is your board?
689アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/16(火) 15:16:57
>>668
Ah, thanks. You don't happen to have a source for that info do you? It's not that I don't believe you, but if my teacher questions it I need a good answer.
Also, if anyone knows the history behind bunkasai (i.e. when was it started, etc) it would be very helpful to me.

I don't want to be selfish, but I'll be sleeping/at school when most Japanese start posting here and I was wondering if someone could make sure my questions about bunkasai
don't get lost amid the rush of new posts. Thanks again for any help, night yall!
690firestar:2008/12/16(火) 15:17:57
>>687
well yes. if it's flying and it can't be IDed then it's a UFO.
but i don't think that there are ETs.
most likely what people are seeing are just secret US aircraft.
the weapons this nation has are incredible.

i once saw what looked to me like the ISS over the skies of my home. so i went online to

track it. the ISS was over near japan actually. so what i saw was not the ISS. but nothing else up there is large enough and close enough to the edge of space to look like that.

if i had to guess what i saw was a spy-craft flying on the edge of the atmosphere/space.
i just hope is was one of ours...
691firestar:2008/12/16(火) 15:18:28
>>688
don't feed the troll
692jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/16(火) 15:34:23
>>681
That would have been so much fun!
I wish I could have stayed to see it. I would have run too!
But, I had to leave a couple days before the festival started.
By the time it was going on, I was back in America.
693名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 15:35:37
>>690
>if it's flying and it can't be IDed then it's a UFO.
Yeah, it's the definition of a UFO, as you know.

It's interesting if what people thought to be UFOs is actually the U.S. military
aircrafts, and I think it's the nost probable.

>i just hope is was one of ours...
lol
Even if so, it's also the threat to our country...

BTW, my mother strongly believes the exisitence, because according to her, she
has seen UFO three times in her life.

> but nothing else up there is large enough and close enough to the edge of space to look like that.
I couldn't grasp this sentense well because of my poor English skill.
I hope if you explain this easier way.

694jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/16(火) 15:49:10
>>690
>but nothing else up there is large enough and close enough to the edge of space to look like that.
That isn't entirely true. Plenty of satellites are visible. You can see them if you watch for a bit on clear nights.
Look for lights about as bright as stars that don't flicker or blink, moving across the sky.
695名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 15:52:11
>>689
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A4%A7%E5%AD%A6%E7%A5%AD
In this page, following things are written.

有識者による講演会やパネルディスカッション : lectures and panel discussions by people who specialize the subject.
著名人を招いたトークショー : talk show by a famous person
歌手のライブやコンサート : concert by a singer
お笑いタレントによるライブ : commedy show by commediens
696名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 15:54:51
>>694
Oh! I could understand the meaning of the sentense.
697firestar:2008/12/16(火) 15:55:03
>>694
i know what a satellite looks like.
the ISS looks the exact same, only super bright/large because its huge.
what i saw looked and moved just like the ISS.
i thought for sure it was the ISS.
there are astronomers in my family, we know these things.
and since there is nothing that large up other other than the ISS, i can only assume what i saw was at the edge of space. because low and high altitude aircraft do not have that satellite look. and satellites don't have that ISS look.
only super high altitude aircraft do, like the SR71 blackbird
698jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/16(火) 16:02:34
>>697
Fair enough. Are you sure othe aircraft would have the surface area to reflect back enough light to look as big?
Personally, I've never tried to spot the ISS, so I can't be sure what it looks like exactly to make a comparison.
I do know that SR-71s, aside from being black, aren't actually used much.
699firestar:2008/12/16(火) 16:08:13
>>698
ah yes i did not mean to imply it was an sr71. they are no longer used.
twas an example.
the only way to get that satellite look would be to be near space or in it.
and the only way to get that ISS look on a such smaller object would be to be much closer than the ISS.
by logic the only assumption that i could make was that what i saw was a super high altitude aircraft.
not many people have those.
700firestar:2008/12/16(火) 16:42:06
oh man i just installed the .6 update to 10.5 and its faster.
nice
701jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/16(火) 16:47:38
>>700
That's wonderful, but what are you talking about?
702firestar:2008/12/16(火) 16:48:01
>>701
leopard
703名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 17:05:34
>>690
Why just US aircraft? Are there no other countries?
704firestar:2008/12/16(火) 17:08:14
>>703
i do not know what i saw, so i couldn't tell you.
705linger:2008/12/16(火) 18:18:57
>>703
US does 46% of the world's military spending...here, check out this neat graph:
http://www.globalissues.org/i/military/country-distribution-2006.png

Anyways, about UFO's...I think if Aliens came to earth, we would all know about it.
Because if Aliens came to earth, they'd do so knowing about humans, and probably want to have contact with humans. So they'd mount an entire publicity campaign.
With alien technology, Earth governments wouldn't be able to cover up or conceal Alien contact...

I mean, if you were an alien civilization sending ships to Earth, you wouldn't just send 1-2 ships, would you?
You'd send an entire fleet.
706linger:2008/12/16(火) 18:23:26
>>653
>>661

Specifically, a "douche bag" is something a woman uses to clean her vagina.

It's an insult.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douche
707名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 22:00:18
>>705
You are missing the possibility that though Aliens have already communicated with human beings,
we citizens cannot be informed of it.
Then, we can't know the existence of them until they start to conquire and colonize the earth...
What a terrible thing this is!

708名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 22:00:39
>>705
You are missing the possibility that though Aliens have already communicated with human beings,
we citizens cannot be informed of it.
Then, we can't know the existence of them until they start to conquire and colonize the earth...
What a terrible..

709【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/16(火) 22:05:03
>>688
http://4chan.b33r.net/sparky4/+4/q/
here
also i am curious about UFOs too
710名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/16(火) 23:04:57
>>708
you are too much influenced by scifi movies
711【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/17(水) 00:25:18
http://zip.4chan.org/g/res/2932467.html

can anyone fight
Anonymous?
712名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 00:39:30
昔の壁画とかに描かれてるのをミリャわかるように、UFOは昔から地球に来てんだよ!
だからUSが作ったものではない。
未来人の可能性はある
713名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 00:46:16
>711
I hate you so much. Couldn't you stop filling this thread with your stupid posts?
714名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 00:51:53
I don't believe UFO sincerely, but I have seen a UFO-like stuff
which moved momentary across the night sky, though I'm not sure if my brain fanctions were working
well at that time.
715【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/17(水) 00:57:56
>>713
the faggy Mods b& my home server
and im going to DDoS the bitch
716名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 01:07:54
I posted a comment via>>709 on the 4ch thread.
But I couldn't confirm my post.
It doesn't seem that I'm suitable for 4ch.lol
717【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/17(水) 01:09:57
>>716
????
what do you mean?

is there an error?
718名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 01:11:28
>>713
You can ask the admin(s) to delete his posts.
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/saku/1140373887/

It's easy, because this guy has been ignoring general rules.
719名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 01:13:35
Losers from America meet idots from Japan....
720名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 01:18:12
>>717
Oops.
I had not found my post, but I could find the post at last !
By the way, my user name is the combination of the name of two cats, which I keep in my house.
I know it's not nig matter well,,
721名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 01:40:02
>>718
You can't ignore him so you are annoying one either.
722名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 01:46:42
>>721 said it right.
723【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/17(水) 01:53:46
just ignore my posts
if you don't like them
724名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 02:13:11
>>723
For your part, you have to put some effort into being considerate to other posters,
instead of just throwing in every thought that pops up in your mind.
Just recall jook's advice before you post, sparky.
725名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 02:18:08
Actually, you've been doing pretty good so don't take it too seriously, sparky.
Good night.
726【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/17(水) 02:18:09
>>724
i know but when nobody is here i should do a dance instead?
727名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 02:23:09
>>689
I'm not 668 but I guess no one knows the history of bunkasai.
Other than history, I think Japanese people can tell from their experineces
what their bunkasai was like as highschool students but you need
source for that? Then the source is 2ch but you can't tell that to your teacher.
Anyway, When I was a high school student I remember each class made something.
along their theme. What our class did when I was 12th grade is that we made in our class room
a haunted house made of cardboard. It was like a maze whose walls were
made of the cardboards collected nearby factories. They gave us them
free of charge because, the cardboards were supposed to be abondened.
Visitors to our class enter from one door and exist out of the other door.
In the middle, they enocounter ghosts our class students desguise in.
We cover windows with black cloth so that sunrays don't come in.
728名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 02:24:31
it takes two to tango..... but who wants to dance with stupido?
729名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 02:25:01
>>689
In university level, the cultural festival is in large scale. Other than
>>668 said, some universities holds Miss *** and Mr. **** university
contest. It's something that feminist would be against.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=KevMneg1da4
This video shows when the Miss Keio was decided. Keio uni is one of the best
private univirsitues, Keio and Waseda is good rivalry.
I found an interesting video, in 2007 Waseda univeirsity invited Adult
porn video actress 及川奈央(Nao Oikawa, the woman in pink http://ib.to/d/av19/91ib1.jpg)
to Waseda's culture festival. She's just one of the celebrites invited
that year. That's one of the reason you can't resist studying there as an exchange student.
But seriously, both high school and university culture festivals are
open to anybody. You don't have to be their parents or the students of
the school to enjoy those festivals.

This is a video of Mr. Keio contest in 2007. http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=o3K3ToRM0JE
Mr. Keio contest started just from 2006. I think Miss Keio started long before.
730名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 02:26:19
bunkasai: school visiting day
731名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 02:41:29
Japanese universities are mostly located at urban areas and
both campuses and school buildings are small and dirty.
アメリカ人 will be disillusioned with the fact.
Even verginia tech where legendary cho made an historical event
is more spacious and cleaner than Tokyo university.
732名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 02:48:54
As for waseda university, wada shinichiro is the flag? of waseda.

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=doXuJxMiTDw
He is called イケメンikemen, which is a trendy word for good face guy.

By the way, Trendyトレンディ was trendy years ago. lol.
733名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 02:57:08
In addition to ikeman, he is ギャルオgyaruo, which points at gal-ish? guy.
Wada-san is legend.
734名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 05:00:38
Don't forget ブサメン
735名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 05:33:30
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bmfiCQMxx9A&NR=1
They are pretty educated. They are innocent and pure.
American educational system is great.
We should bring in homeschooling, which can save government
budget as well!
Merits of homeschooling : diversity and efficiency.
Perfect.
736Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2008/12/17(水) 06:12:52
>>735

Oh you.
737名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 06:16:36
Home schooling? It's for religous fanatics.
738名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 06:46:39
>>737
They may not be christian. They are either athiest or pagan or agnostic.
Their leader, William Pierce was agnostic.
739jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/17(水) 06:49:11
>>729
I watched the first video you posted. At 1:33, the host-type girl says "congratulations" to the winner.
I was surprised by her pronunciation. She got the L sound really well - that's difficult for most Japanese.
I was able to understand most of the winning girl's little speech, too. She spoke a little fast, but didn't say anything difficult.
"I'm happy, etc etc" about what you'd expect, I guess

Your second link is a 404 error.


>>735
Wow, I'm disturbed.
740名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 08:10:34
>>739
Sorry for the wrong link. Just omit ) st the end then you can see the jpg.
Anyway I forgot to link the youtube video there, which is
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ugrq25XRKM and then because she wears
pink clothes in the video, I put the link to her nude photo, which is
http://ib.to/d/av19/91ib1.jpg
For more of her photos, http://ib.to/?av19

So you understand almost all of what the winner's speech. Big thumbs up.

> She got the L sound really well - that's difficult for most Japanese.
Agreed. Maybe she can speak English very well.
741アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/17(水) 08:26:00
>>695>>727>>729
Wow that's a lot of good information, thanks! I definitely can use that in my presentation(maybe not the nude pic...).
I'll probably post more questions in a bit, so watch out =P.
742名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 08:30:44
Hey bro!
What are we talking about?
743jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/17(水) 08:47:10
>>741 Perhaps you can connect it back to panty-sniffing somehow. Claim you already took hers, or something.
744名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 09:06:25
Korean Wave is remarkably popular among girls all over the world.
They say they fell in love with Korean guys when they were bitten by the Korean Romance bug.
I didn't know why they got so gung ho about Korean guys, because one can't realise what's his attractiveness by himself,
but those girls throughout the world pointed out how good-looking, cool and hot, sexy and gentle Korean guys were.
That made perfect sense to me. Yes, Korean guys surely look quite handsome in comparison to other people. But what got me moved most
was they knew how nice Korean guys were. I was quite happy to know girls all over the world love Korean guys among other people from other nations.
Plus, it really came as a surprise to me that white girls are mesmerised with Korean guys. Many white girls say they can't imagine a life without Korean guys
on this planet, in the hope of meeting a Mr Korean perfect someday. Don't forget, white girls, there're many perfect korean guys for you.
I'd go on a date with you. So until then please enhance your beauty so that you can catch my attention when we meet!! I'm looking forward to that.
745名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 09:34:24
>>743
I agree.
I would suggest if the word "panty" isn't included in each アメリカ人's post,
his collection of panties is confiscated one panty at a time.

>>742
Panty and culute festival in schools in Japan.
746名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 09:38:44
>>744
The only reason Korean guys go for non-Korean girls is because all
Korean girls are insane and crazy.
747名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 09:43:27
You now what? They are supposed to marry Korean girls if they are from Korea. And they have to.
They can fooling around with girls from other countries as much as they can. That's why they can take risks without cares when it comes to picking up local girls.
That's a huge difference between Korean men and Japanese ones.
748名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 09:53:01
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bmfiCQMxx9A&NR=1
Can Koreans even steal hearts from them? I doubt it.
Koreans will be stoned!
749【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/17(水) 10:08:24
ill be gone guys
until the weekend.
Friday (English speaking internets) Saturday (Eastern internets)

I am about to enter through PC AND RAVER'S HELL!!!! (my dreadful high school)
also I am not afraid to go dumpster diving.
2 days of sheer hell (school)
2 hours of detention tomorrow
and
3 hours of detention Thursday (English speaking internets)
5 hours total of sheer unfair labor.

(This is something that makes me want to go snap and start a stabbing spree.)
(The unfair disciple)
I have no freedoms in USA.

If i survive this
ill be unstoppable

I am physically strong,
but not mentally strong.

If I do make it then my promised future will be fulfilled
and ill be in Japan by 2014 or 2016.

If i do not make it through
then
腹切り!

Wish me luck eastern internets!!!!

Love 【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田
750名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 10:10:02
we will finally have some peace and quiet
751名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 10:11:08
>>749
Stay gone, will you?
752名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 10:27:27
>>747
I don't know what you wanted to say.
If you want to get married to a girl from abroad, you can.
And I don't think Korean guys fool around with girls. Korean guys are sincere and kind to girls.
Korean guys treat girls like princess. That doesn't exclude snogging, of course.
Yes, girls dream about being treated as princess, and Korean guys make their dream come true.
That's why girls all over the world are interested in Korean guys.
753名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 10:29:56
>>752
Are you the one who's spreading Korean supremacy here?
754名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 10:30:00
文化祭 must have been started as educational, serious event, literally
aiming at studying about culture.
But its objective is nominal.
It can be applied to 修学旅行 too.
Syuugakou is japanese words for educational trip.

Oh, I remember waseda 文化祭 was once administered and monopolized
by a communist revolutioary group http://www.jrcl.org/img/L19921pho11.jpg and
文化祭's earnings had been a resource of their group.
Waseda president suspended 文化祭 for four years. It's not an incident of
long long time ago. The incident within only a decade ago.
I remember extremists disguised as victim and were whining
on TV.
They just wanted money for doing nothing. That's all.
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E9%9D%A9%E5%91%BD%E7%9A%84%E5%85%B1%E7%94%A3%E4%B8%BB%E7%BE%A9%E8%80%85%E5%90%8C%E7%9B%9F%E9%9D%A9%E5%91%BD%E7%9A%84%E3%83%9E%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9%E4%B8%BB%E7%BE%A9%E6%B4%BE
I'm not joking this time. Well known story.
755名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 10:34:05
>>752
Korean boys can beat down neo-nazi skinheads one by one and even racist
white girls fall in love with k-boys?
Korean is like ochiai nobuhiko!
756名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 10:45:10
>>752
Dream on...
757名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 10:49:32
>>748
You mean the little girls? Then the answer is no, because those girls are too young to know there are nice guys in Korea. Look at it this way, they can get involved with one of their classmates.
But it'll be a different story after they are finished with conpulsory education. They will get access to Korean websites dealing with Korean guys and gradually get interested in Korean guys. No doubt about that.
I'm sure they will fall in love with a Korean guy when they are aware what cool guys are and where such guys live.
It all depends on that.
758名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 10:53:17
>>757
Which part of "Dream on" you don't understand?
759名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 10:55:43
>>755
Korean is like what?? What's ochiai nobuhiko? Anyway, you seemed to miss the big point here.
Many girls around the world love Korean guys because they know Korean guys is nice and gentle.
There's nothing more I can't say than being nice to girls is the key.
760名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 10:56:03
>>757
I'm sorry to tell you this, but Japanese anime kicks in their brains first.
That means your theory won't fly.
761名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 10:56:45
>>758
What? lol
762名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 10:59:05
>>759
Do you have any idea how many universities and colleges in America offer Korean class and Korean studies? Check out the figures. That tells you a lot.
763名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 11:03:54
>>760
Hmm, that's hard to understand. Is there something to do with anime? What's that supposed to mean? I thought we were talking about Korean guys and how many chances there are those girls will be in relationship with a Korean guy.
764名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 11:06:22
>>762
So you don't want to admit how very popular Korean guys are among girls all over the world?
Don't try to bend the truth that's been proved/established already. Ok?
765名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 11:09:46
>>763
No. You're just glagging about how one particular racial group is superior to others. That's all.
766名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 11:12:35
>>764
The sun won't rise in the west even if you insist on that for 1 million times. Get the message?
767名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 11:17:08
>>765
Oh yeah? Seems you got me wrong. I was talking about one fact of Korean guys being popular among girls and what conclusion I've reached about why.
As I said, Korean guys are lookers and at the same time very nice to girls. And I wasn't bragging about it. Korean guys happen to be so.
And tell me what anime has got to do with the topic?
768名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 11:19:21
>>766
The sun rises in the east like many girls love Korean guys from the bottom of thier hearts. What's the problem? Unchangeable fact, it is.
769firestar:2008/12/17(水) 11:22:22
trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls.....
770名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 11:27:26
Well, the truth seems bitter to some people on here that many girls say Korean guys are adorable and cool.
I saw those kinds of posts a million times on youtube. Girls posting comments from overseas are quite very hooked on Korean guys.
771名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 11:41:02
It never rains but pours. I feel hopeless.
772名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 11:44:14
>>771
What do you feel hopeless about?
Your future? If so, we're on the same boat.
773名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 11:49:39
I wish female 4channelers who show their boobs there came and
showed exclucively to us their boobs here.
774名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 12:08:59
>>769
>trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls.....
Got it! I thought this dude was serious...
775【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/17(水) 12:13:47
>>751
typical response from the internets
i was seeing the responses for now

"Hasta la vista, baby."

776名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 12:22:05
>>775
Stay gone forever then....
777【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/17(水) 12:24:27
>>755
your actually making me wanting to stay
778名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 12:30:42
English speaking internets love Korean guys.
779名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 12:34:23
Whatever...
780名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 12:37:48
I know hundreds of thousands of white girls have fetish for Korean guys.
781【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/17(水) 12:38:30
>>780
i know none! ^.^b
782名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 12:39:57
>>772
I feel so uneasy. what would you do if you were me?
783【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/17(水) 12:45:11
>>773
>Faggets
Fix'd
784名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 12:52:18
>>781
You don't know? Search online. There are horribly many white girls exclaiming their love for Korean guys.
I speak from experience.
785名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 12:59:26
Some people here are so twisted that they don't seem to see the truth Korean guys are popular among white girls, I don't know why. Are they jealous?
786名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 13:03:41
So said the most twisted individual known to people in this thread.
787名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 13:05:06
I had long been wondered why a person who are severe against sparky
doesn't react to this Korean guy.
But, I reached one conclusion just now.\(^o^)/
788名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 13:20:18
>>747
Forgot to say this. There are many cute Korean girls actually.
For example, Kim Yuna is called a sister for all Korean people.
She's super cute, I admit. She was supposed to get the first prize the other day, but
Mao Asada extorted her fame because of Japan money.
Besides, the fact remains Korean guys are so open-minded as to accept white girls as wifty, of course.

>>786
There's no call for a troll like you.
789名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 13:50:36
Kim yuna - TousLesJours Cute Commercial
http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=XJkGsqPjDLU
790【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/17(水) 13:55:45
>>787
hey look at
>>527
791名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 14:07:18
If I travel to Europe, I want to buy delicous cheeses a lot.
I can purchase them at a super-market in Japan, but most of them are imported
all the way from France, German or other European countries, so they cost a lot.
Getting blue cheese cheaply is one of my dreams!
792名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 14:20:39
>>790
?
Maybe, my way of writing makes you misunderstand.
Read 787 carefully or you catch the point.
793アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/17(水) 14:21:35
Ok, so here is my (bad) attempt at writing some Japanese for my presentation.
The Japanese is my simplified translation of the English. I had to forcibly put some grammar
I recently learned into the writing. Oh, and you'll notice that I used spaces and not that much kanji
which is because I have to memorize it.

The formatting was really bad when I pasted it into 2ch, so here's the MS Word doc:
home.comcast.net/~gigabutt/bunkasai.doc
794jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/17(水) 14:52:03
>>765 I don't think "glagging" is a word, but I think it should be.
I hereby use my native-speaker powers to declare that "to glag" is a verb meaning "to babble endlessly and ignore all attempts at others to stop you or make you see reason."
Let it be so!

>>791 I really love cheese. California is famous for cheese too. It's one of my favorite things.
795jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/17(水) 14:53:35
>>793 The lack of spaces sometimes make Japanese difficult to read.
If you can't tell when one word ends and another starts, how can you get the meaning?
I think I've gotten better about it recently, but this used to really be a problem for me.
Now, it isn't so much unless there are a ton of kanji involved.
796アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/17(水) 15:25:38
>>793
Damn, I found a few errors on my own. That's what I get for doing this all last minute.
Oh well, I hope I don't screw up too much in class tomorrow.
>>795
Yea, I don't have that much of a problem with the lack of spaces, just did it in this case
to expedite memorization.
797jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/17(水) 15:44:57
>>796 I seem to be lucky with presentations. I'm usually able to produce what I want to say on the spot.
So when the rest of my classmates are translating and trying to exactly memorize everything they want to say,
I'm writing down half a dozen keywords (probably some both in English and Japanese) and just remembering them.
Then, when it's time to present, instead of struggling to remember something exactly the way I struggled to memorize it,
I simply come up with the sentences on the spot.
798jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/17(水) 16:09:59
電車男の話が分かりますか、みんなさん?
私はそのテレビばんぐみを今みています。
おもしろくてときどきかんどうします。
本当にこの2chでその話がありましたか。
そして、いつでしたか。
ばんぐみをみるので、とても長いときじゃないと思う。
799jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/17(水) 16:11:38
>>798
I feel like there may have been places in there I should have used "のこと" but I'm not really sure.
電車男のことが分かりますか maybe?
800名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 16:20:01
>>799
hey vermin, 電車男のことが分かりますか sounds weird kill yourself asap
801jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/17(水) 16:21:29
>>800
を分かりますか probably is better I suppose, eh?
802名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 16:30:39
>>801
no, idiot
it should be like, 「… を ご ぞ ん じ で す か?、 ご し ゅ じ ん さ ま」
だろうが糞外人www
803jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/17(水) 16:34:19
>>802
I'm thinking 糞外人is more like you, am I right?
Everyone knows I'm 男伊達
804jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/17(水) 16:38:28
>>802
ごぞんじ seems to be another way of saying to have knowledge of something, but there's no need to be rude about it.
Unless my dictionary is looking up the wrong kanji.
Anyway, how is this word different from 分かります or しります?
805名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 16:39:31
>>803
You're a 害人, not 外人.
No one knows what 男伊達 means, ドアホwww
伊達男のつもりかなー くるくるパーwww
806名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 16:42:34
>>804
you don’t have enough brain cells to learn the japanese language!
アホ害人はとっとと死になさいwww
807jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/17(水) 16:44:02
>>806
You first.
808名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 16:46:04
>>805
>No one knows what 男伊達 means...

I knew that when he asked that weeks ago.
Other guys answered what 伊達男 means and my poste was sort of ignored though...
809名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 16:47:36
>>803
> Everyone knows I'm 男伊達
男伊達?!
810名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 16:48:56
BTW, jook, can I be a grammarnazi? >>798 is written in good Japanese, but I found some grammatical erros that would be better corrected to make more sense.
811jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/17(水) 16:50:46
>>810
Yes, please.
812名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 16:51:23
>>811
Ok, wait a sec.
813名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 16:59:36
>>811
line 1: 電車男の話をしってますか、みなさん?
line 5: それはいつでしたか。(Don't know why, but そして doesn't fit in this sentence. Maybe we rarely use it before asking more question(s).)
line 6: ばんぐみを今(いま)みているので、そんなに前(まえ)じゃないと思う。

The last sentence is a little confusing, but I think you meant something like
"I'm watching the program right now, so I guess it's not been long."
814名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 17:03:00
しってますか may be a bit informal, so you may want to say しっていますか instead. Their meanings are the same.

Ask me if you have any questions. I'm not a teacher or anything, but I'm happy to help you.
815jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/17(水) 17:09:45
>>813
What I meant form the last line was:
From watching the show, it doesn't seem like it was very long ago.
816名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 17:13:00
>>815
Then, ばんぐみをみたかぎりでは、そんなに昔(むかし)じゃないと思う。is better.

Xをみた限り(かぎり)では is an idiomatic phrase that means "From doing X, (I think...)"
817名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 17:18:03
Oops, Xをした限りでは is the correct form. I used みた限りでは because you meant "from watching X."

So, you say すこしよんだ限りでは、その本はおもしろそうだ。 when you want to mean Reading the frist few pages, the book seems to be interesting.
818jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/17(水) 17:33:16
>>816-817
Thanks, that's very informative, and I learned a new form.
819jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/17(水) 18:27:58
>>813
>そんなに前(まえ)じゃないと思う
>>816
>そんなに昔(むかし)じゃないと思う

Are you able to explain why you say this as そんなに(前/むかし)?
Specifically, why you use "そんなに" here. As far as I know, そんな is roughly "That kind of x" so I don't understand putting に with it.
I will check for an answer tomorrow. For now, I will go to bed.
Thanks for your help.
820名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 18:38:18
>>794
I'm not 765, but haha, `native-speaker powers` is cool, jook!

>>798
Your sentenses are good enough, except for the last line.
I can grasp what you want to say quite easily.
Continue your efforts and expose them to us! It's fun and informative to read
Japanese compositions
written in foreigners! though it seems that there is an enermy here.
Speaking of `densya-otoko`, I have not watched it.

Anyway, good-night. Feel free to write Japanese sentenses.
821jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/17(水) 18:42:28
>>813
While we're at it, what's the difference in using 分かる or 知る?
It seems I only sometimes know when to use one or the others.
I was taught that 分かる is "understand" and 知る is "know" but it seems like 分かる is just as often used to mean "to know something."
It seems like I asked this question before, but I guess I didn't quite understand the answer.
Are they somewhat interchangeable? Or is it wrong to use one or the other in certain situations?
822名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 18:59:03
>>821
We don't need a moron like you here in the 2ch, jook.
823名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 19:00:30
>>819
そんなにXない is a set phrase that means "(It's) not very X," "not quite X," "not that X" and the like.
じゃない is an informal version of ではない.

Some examples may help:

It's not that difficult. そんなにむずかしくない。
He's not very young. かれはそんなに若く(わかく)ない。

In my opinion, the actual sense lies somewhere between "not very X" and "not that X."
Read the following if you want more details. Ignore them if not; it may be confusing.

あまりXない is closer to "not very X" than そんなにXない.
Also, そんなにXはない is closer to "not that X." (Note は is used before ない)

So, そんなにむずかしくはない is more like "It's not that difficult" and
あまりむずかしくない is very similar to "It's not very difficult."
そんなにむずかしくない falls somewhere between the two, I think.

Native Japanese speakers sometimes say そんなにはむずかしくない. (Note は is between そんなに and むずかしい.)
This also means "It's not that difficult," but I'd translate it as "It's easier than you think."

Anyway, look in your dictionary or grammar text and double-check it.
I'm not a teacher or as gifted as Crystal. I could be totally wrong.
824名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 19:08:44
He's not very young.
かれは"あまり"若く(わかく)ない。

I don't like it very much. あまり好きではない
I don't like it so much. そんなに好きではない。
825名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 19:11:53
Logically, when you ask something to others who may not know it,
you should say ○の話を知っていますか? at the beginning of conversation.
(because if you don't know it, you caanot understand it automatically
so, you should confirm whether others know it or not in advance)

HOWEVER, we often say ○の話がわかりますか? quite frequently at the beginnig.
I think in this case, abbreviation is occuring because we say that kind of thing very often.
Maybe (○の話をしたとして)その話がわかりますか? is correct.

Anyway, the way you wrote is correct and good enough to covey whart you want to say.
826名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 19:15:21
>>825は-> >>821
827名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 19:39:36
>>821
わかる often means "to realize," "to get (the meaning)," "to understand," or "to know."
知る often means "to hear of," "to learn of," "to know," or "to understand."
Of course, sometimes 知る can be translated as to realize and such.

I think わかる is placing more emphasis on the mental process of "understanding something" while 知る is tend to be used when the actual way to get to know something is in the speaker's mind.

These two somewhat artificial exmaples may help you get the sense:

私はこれがわかる。means "I CAN understand this," i.e., your brain can handle the information properly.
私はこれを知る。 means "I am about to know this," i.e., you're implying you have access to the new knowledge.

I think you can now understand the differences between these natural phrases:

それはわかっている。means "I know it (full well)," and may have the connotation that
it is already in your mind or that you mentally understand it so it's not new.
それは知っている。 means "I know it (full well)," and carries the sense that
you already heard/read that somwehere else before.

That's why you use わかった when you mean "Gotcha." What you actually mean is that what he/she just said is, say, stored properly in your brain.
If you say 知った in a similar situation, you'd sound as if you're thinking of the physical process of understanding what he/she just said, i.e., you sound like "I get you because my ears were able to hear your voice."
828名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 19:54:30
Added note on >>827:

As another anon said in >>825, わかりますか and 知っていますか can be used when you start a new topic. But they have different connotations:

Xをわかっていますか? means "Can you undertand X?" because わかる emphasizes the mental process of understanding while
Xを知っていますか? means "Did you know X?" because 知る is related to the way you get to know the idea.

これを知っていますか? means "Did you know this?" with the connotation that "Have you heard of this?" or "Have you read about this?"
If you say これをわかっていますか?, then you may sound like you're saying, "Are you aware of this?" or "Can you understand this?"
829名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 20:33:39
わかんねえ
830名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 20:47:05
>>828
I can agree with you in that 知る means understanding slightly something, but 分かる means
undestanding something deeply.

even if you say 皆さん、電車男の話わかりますか? 僕最近はまってるるんですけど・・、
you can say it sounds natural. I think.
(皆さん、電車男の話わかってますか? is very strange though.)

・・but when you talk with someone person to person, 電車男の話わかりますか?
may sound strange. 知ってますか should be used.

わかる should be used when you ask abstract questions to others.
・ ねえねえ、ギターのことわかる?
・ あのさ、君、数学わかる?
・ 演歌の話わかります?

If you refer to a concrete thing and ask someone whether he knows it even slightly,
you should use 知っていますか?.
・ジェロって演歌歌手知ってますか?
・イチローっていう野球選手知ってる?
・電車男知ってる?
Umm, I think 電車男 is too shallow to understand deeply.

長々とうざいな、スマソ
831名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 20:48:16
>>829
Actually, this is another good example of わかる vs. 知る.

わかんねえ is a slangy version of わかりません. I'd translate it as "I don't get it."

The corresponding slangy way of 知りません is しらねえ.
If I were to say it in English, I'd say, "i donno." しらねえ implies you haven't heard or read about that.
832名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 21:13:32
>>830
>わかる should be used when you ask abstract questions to others.
>・ ねえねえ、ギターのことわかる?
>・ あのさ、君、数学わかる?
>・ 演歌の話わかります?

I don't think 知る and わかる have anything to do with abstractness of information.
These are just idiomatic usage of わかる, meaning "Are you familiar with X?"
Like I said, わかる is more *mental* than 知る, hence this usage.

Anyway, I could write about わかる vs. 知る ad infinitum, but I don't think it would help improve his Japanese.

I'd say, "Don't try too hard to understand the rules. Listen to and read Japanese instead, and you'll find you already know them."

BTW, sorry for my terrible grammar and a plethora of typos.
I don't think twice or take a second look at my post when I'm on 2ch.
833名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 22:02:06
もうええわ
834名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 22:05:08
Obviously you don't know what you've been talking about....
835【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/17(水) 22:29:51
http://4chan.b33r.net/sparky4/+4/
ummm
you know this image board will never "die"
836名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 22:32:29
2ch or just this board seems to have a glitch that's making it difficult to post at the moment.
Not sure if I can make this post, either. Maybe they're going down for routine maintenance.
837名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 22:36:12
>>836
If my memory serves me, Japanese idiots on 2ch DDoSed Koreans and Korean stupids are getting back at 2ch.
838名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 22:45:37
>>837
Again? Those J warosu and K lulz should just go fuck themselves elsewhere.
839名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 22:46:50
>>836
Well. especilly recently, the number of times which I cannot visit here has
increased dramatically.
840名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 22:52:47
>>838
They never learn anything. That's what "stupid" and "idiot" mean.
After all, 2ch is anonymous boards.
841名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 23:10:24
>>840
Yeah.. vippers are ok as long as they're haivng fun by themselves, but some of them
do something stupid like that for no apparent reason and as a result other channellers
get involved and have to take all the crap. I'm sure 2ch will block all .kr IPs, which is
not very cool either..
842【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/17(水) 23:17:30
>>841
thats not cool
843名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 23:22:29
>>842
I thought you'd be gone for a while. You're back now?
844名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 23:25:33
>>836->>841 are korean's fapping
845名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 23:28:12
>>841
No, you miss the point that they are struggling to make propaganda.
846名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 23:31:57
>>844
Er, not really. There's no Korean supremacy factor detected in those posts.
847名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 23:34:43
>>845
you mean, by DOS attacks? lol
848名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 23:37:51

【日本では英語を学習する必要はない】

外国人が勝手に日本にやって来てクソ英語を話してんじゃねぇ
849名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 23:45:16
>>837
I have to put you right.
Korean people got mad when Asada Mao won the figure skate competition the other day and, soon after that, started cyber-attacking 2ch 2days ago
(when the English board of 2ch was down as you may know), and then some of Japanese people returned the favor,
and then again Korean attacked. I'm just a bystander, but how meaningless it is... Korean people suffer from hwa-byong desease.
850名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/17(水) 23:49:02
>>798
I haven't watched the TV nor movie of 電車男。
But I know what the story is about because I'v read the story
about him on the net.

I searched and found out that the first post of 電車男 about his enocounter
with the woman was on March 14th, 2004, 9:55pm. His post number was 731. He
used 731 as his handle name first but eventually, posters in the thrad began to
call him 電車男 and he changed his handle name to 電車男.
851名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 00:11:15
>>849
Doesn't matter. They're all stupid. That's it.
852名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 00:13:28
Now I got the whole picture, it all started out with an emotional explosion about
the figure skate thing...
853名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 00:22:21
>>793
Making your essay sounds perfect will give your teacher an idea that
you cheated. So I don't correct it to make it perfect, but some suggestion to
make it better.

じょうじ、なつ に 文化祭 が あります。
Change じょうじ、 to ふつう to make the sentence 「ふつう、なつ に 文化祭 が あります。」
みせつけて あげます。should be 「発表します。」show off sure translated
as みせつける but not sound good in this contetext.
クラブかつど--->クラブかつどう
大学 で 文化祭 は 大きい から 時々 ゆめいな 人達 に 来ます。
---->大学 の 文化祭 は 大きい から ゆうめいな 人達 が 来ることもあります。

There are more things to be corrected but I'm not sure to what extent I should correct your
essay. To make it perfect doesn't work in favor of you. Your teacher
doubts you cheated. Hmmmm. Anyway, good luck.
854名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 00:41:53
robotinhakone
855名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 01:26:07
>>793
It's really informative and interesting for me
to see English essay written by a U.S. student. Can I save it ?

(corrections)
まいとし 夏に 文化祭 が あります。文化祭 とは がくえんさい ともいいます。 文化祭は
 中学、 高校、 大学 とで おこなわれます 。生徒達 の ため の 文化祭 であり 
生徒達 は じゅぎょうでまなんだこと や びじゅつ作品 を ひろうします(みせつけるは不自然です)。
そして 生徒達 は うた や ダンス 
 コメディー  など を します。しばしば ホームルーム や クラブかつどうの メンバー は ゲーム を したり 
食べ物 を 作ったり します。たくさん 
伝統的な こと が あって けれども たいしゅうぶんか 事 も あります。

大学 での 文化祭 は 規模が 大きい から 時々 ゆうめいな 人達 が 来ます。
そして 時々 大学 で パージェント(美人コンテスト) が あります。

文化祭 で りょうしん や 生徒達 の 友達 に 見にきて もらいます。
文化祭 は 楽しい イベント ですが いいんかいの ほんとうの もくてき は 生徒達 が
ちがう 学校 を みたり 新しい 友達 に 出会う 機会を あたえることです。 

I fixed a lot, but don't take it seriously.
The best way to improve your writing skill is to write many compsitions.
Ovarall your Japanese is good enogh. I can understand most of the sentenses.
856名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 03:00:36
Bob Mathews rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
857【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/18(木) 03:15:20
>>856
BOB SAGGET
858名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 03:43:51
>>856
You've never heard of him, haven't you?
859名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 03:49:36
Oh, something is wrong. have you?
860jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/18(木) 04:17:56
>>823-832
Thanks, I really appreciate your help. I don't mind at all that some of these were long - having more examples just helps me.
I think this is still a difficult thing to grasp, so I won't say I completely understand, but I will try.
>>830 is good to know.

>>831 is something I was already aware of.
Last semester, my Japanese teacher got annoyed with me because I kept writing シラン on vocabulary quizzes...

I'll take >>832's advice too. I think that listening and trying is a good way to get things.
You're probably right that if I didn't second-guess myself, it would turn out I already know what to do.
In fact, I was going to write 知りますか at first in my bit, but I second-guessed it and wrote 分かる instead.
That's not mentioning the usage of xます or xています, which in this situation it seems could have gone either way depending on the connotation I'm going for.

Anyway, I really appreciate you all taking the time to explain this to me.

>>850 Thanks for that!
861jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/18(木) 04:36:08
>>855 if you like essays, I can share one with you.
Yesterday, I wrote two pages about the history of Japanese sword making, and gave a presentation on it for the final in my Japanese history/culture class.
If anyone is interested, I uploaded my paper here: http://www.box.net/shared/syqjbb8gts
It's uploaded exactly as I turned it in, except I deleted my name.
862名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 07:21:04
>>861
Good-morning, I was forced to woke up because of my brother's shit alarm clock.
Reccuring song made me really irritated--

Yeah, I really appreaciate if you show your essay.
I'm interested because I want to examine usages and the ways you native-speakers say and compare to my
way of writing.
I'm going to check them out.(I read this one, in which there are a lot of things which I didn't know...)
Then, how long an interval from one paper to the next paper is there ?
863アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/18(木) 08:03:22
>>853
>>855
Haha, my teacher said the same thing about じょうじ to ふつう. Yea, I didn't
want to have perfect Japanese because it'd be obvious I was cheating somehow. But thanks
to >>855 for correcting the whole thing (don't worry I already did my presentation w/the mistakes, it's too late to change now).
I'm fine with you saving it.
The essay I posted is not really accurate though because I added more stuff during the day before class.
lol, you should see the paper I printed out, it's covered with notes I made.

Sadly, my presentation didn't go so well. I memorized the whole thing perfectly, but when I stood in front of the class
I had to try really hard to remember everything and I stumbled through it =(. I did print out pictures from our Japanese sister school's bunkasai,
which I think made my presentation a bit better. But I also forgot to print out a list of all the new vocabulary in my presentation to hand out to the class(my teacher was mad)...
Damn, today was terribly stressful and then I botched my Japanese presentation which I usually do well on. I'm just glad winter vacation starts Friday.
Sonofabitch, I just remembered I have to make a 年賀状 for homework. Argh! This week needs to end!
864名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 08:10:43
>>860
>I think this is still a difficult thing to grasp, so I won't say I completely understand, but I will try.
Yes, it's very dificult.
(I think the word わかる includes not only understanding deeply but also understanding vaguely in its nuance.)
I think the best way to recognize the differences, though this can be applied to other things too, is to compare one with
the other and select the more natural way.

ex) a1) ○明日、晴れるとおもいますか?
  a2) △明日、晴れると推論してますか? 
  
b1)○君は、明日、学校にくるんですか?
  b2)△君は、明日、学校に参上するんですか?
865【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/18(木) 08:12:46
hell day is about to
start
866名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 08:20:02
>>865
Hi, sparky, good morning.
What time is it there?
867アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/18(木) 08:25:25
>>861
Nice jook, I really enjoyed your essay. I'm a big history buff so if you happen to write any more
for your history/culture class please post them.

In some attempt to feel better about myself I'm posting a speech about funding space sciences I made last year in my writing class: http://download164.mediafire.com/ird9frm3y2yg/ymym4imnfml/speech.doc
I'd be interested to see if any Japanese can understand it since it's pretty dense.
868アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/18(木) 08:26:45
>>867
I meant to say "wordy" instead of "dense".
869名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 08:29:22
>>867
>any Japanese can understand it since it's pretty dense.

Japanese grad students studying in the US, Canada, whatever would like a word with you.
870【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/18(木) 08:30:35
>>866
http://4chan.b33r.net
go here to find out the time
871名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 08:31:12
>>863
You didn't do well on the presenttion because you forgot to take one of
the panties to sniff at mens'room to relax....
872アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/18(木) 08:36:07
>>869
Sorry, I didn't mean to be offensive. The writing is just very different then from what is normally posted here.
All of you that post here are really great at English, even the Korean spammer.

>>871
Oh. My. God. You're right, I forgot to sniff them!
873【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/18(木) 08:42:57
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/nm4978007
ミクトランスいいね
^^
874名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 09:01:10
>>873
Sparky, are you taking a Japanese class?
I think sometimes you speak Japanese, and you seem to understand most of Japanese posts in this thread.

I just realized when you say something in Japanese, your Japanese is always perfect.
You don't use long sentences or speak formal language, but I don't see any non-nativeness in your Japanese posts...
875linger:2008/12/18(木) 09:02:56
The Japanese and Koreans should relax and chill about their silly little rivalry.
876名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 09:14:23
>>867
It may be a bit hard for me to understand fully.
I'm convinced that there is a need to expand my English vocabulary.--
877名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 09:14:47
>>872
>Sorry, I didn't mean to be offensive.
Ah, I just wanted to use "'d like a word with you" to plug the phrase into my active vocabulary.
I was waiting for someone to say something too general or too simple.
Thanks. I guess my usage was correct.
878名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 09:23:54
>>875
Did you know silly little rivalry made people land on the moon?
They wanted to go there before their adversaries make it.
One of huge countries even failed to feed their own people and went bankrupt after that.
879【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/18(木) 09:32:41
>>874
>I think sometimes you speak Japanese, and you seem to understand most of Japanese posts in this thread.
i do not know until i use translator

>I just realized when you say something in Japanese, your Japanese is always perfect.
Why thank you ^^
i don't "speak it yet"
but im still learning
and i try to make it perfect ^^
880【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/18(木) 09:34:08
>>875
is right.
they are both places of interest for me
881名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 09:34:27
>>877
Dig a hole and shout new expressions and words into it to make them
into your active vocabulary.
882【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/18(木) 09:35:16
>>871
>>872
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
THIS IS TOO FUNNY!
883【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/18(木) 09:36:16
>>874
forgot to answer a question
>Sparky, are you taking a Japanese class?
いいえ!
884名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 09:37:11
>>881
But a hole doesn't talk back to me unless it's an asshole.
885名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 09:40:49
I think that's what he meant.
886名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 09:43:58
>>885
If you're talking to me (I'm >>884), I'm taking full advantage of anonymity.
I can't do the same thing in real life.
887名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 09:44:37
>>867
Just out of curiusity, did you get A for this essay?
As you say, the wording is different from that of posts here.
But anybody who can keep up with the conversation here can understand it.

Just nitipicking
> our insignificance has only raised more questions then we can propose theories for.
then--->than

888アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/18(木) 09:56:59
>>887
Actually I wasn't being graded on the essay itself, but the speech. So I was able to get away with
errors like the one you found lol. But yea, I got an A on it. Speech writing is remarkably difficult;
it makes me realize how talented Obama and his writing staff are. Maybe I'll post my college application essay which was about Japan
after I'm done applying. That would be more relevant to 2ch, I think.

I wish I could understand enough Japanese to read any essays you guys wrote =(.
889名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 10:05:57
pls translate this "The potential loss to science is great. "into Japanese.
890名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 10:11:07
>>889
科学にとっての損失はグレイツ!かもしんないね。
891名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 10:14:41
>>888
I need to read your essay 5 times and lool up words I don't know
to understand your essay completely.
What does the soapbox mean? My dictionary says, it's a box to stand on
when you make a speech on the street but In your essay's case, it just
means "Your opinion"? So A Soapbox about Space=My opininon about Space?

>>889
科学への潜在的損失は大きい。
見込まれる科学への損失は大きい。
892【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/18(木) 10:25:23
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4254242
A:\melody_2.exe
ミクトランスいいね
^^
893【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/18(木) 10:39:05
you know i love anything futuristic!
like トランス!
894Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2008/12/18(木) 10:40:37
I'll contribute. This is the "final exam" speech I gave for my class on
speech (presentation) and rhetoric this last semester. This isn't the
entire manuscript... the speech was something like 11 minutes long. I said
many things that were not in the document below, but this is a pretty good
outline. The topic is a little complicated so no one knew anything about the
topic beforehand and probably would not would bother to research it to prove it
either way. Just as planned, this got me an A.

>>888
Yea, speech presentation is just a huge mental game. The same thing
happened to me the first few speeches I gave. I knew the stuff in and
out before giving it, but once you have to go up your body automatically
and uncontrollably gets nervous. That results in you forgetting what
to say sometimes. Over the course of giving a number of speeches, I
developed some tactics to get over the nervousness. Eventually I got
over it and I would barely get nervous at all by just thinking that
all I have to do is walk up there, recite my lines with sincerity
and earnest... and it will be fucking fantastic.

Anyways, here it is. Please don't bother to argue any of the facts because
I bullshitted much of it.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yyjk3zylzmx

I wrote the speech on paper the way I would say it so quite a bit of
informal language is used. In other words, it isn't grammatically perfect,
such is the nature of speech making.
895名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 11:01:53
Korean guys are cool.
896名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 11:12:45
>>894
I bet you'll be either of them in the futyre, FRB chief, the secretry of trasury,
head of megabank, or 32th Elvis inpersonator contest.
897【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/18(木) 11:36:58
>>895
i would like to meet one.
898名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 12:01:35
>>897
Your enthusiasm for Korea has disappeared at last ?
899【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/18(木) 12:48:32
>>898
zerg rush time ?
900名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 13:30:35
The third world war has begun...
http://spaceinvadersww.com/index.php?lang=en
901【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/18(木) 13:48:34
>>900
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
902アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/18(木) 14:06:35
>>891
Yup, I used "soapbox" as synonym for a speech. Although a soapbox actually refers to the physical object you stand on,
it always is used in the context of making a speech and therefore can be inferred as the speech itself.
Also, soapbox usually has the connotation of being a rant, so when I say "A Soapbox about Space" I'm implying that my speech is a rant.
Oh, a perfect example would be our Korean friend. He never seems to step down from his soapbox.

>>894
Haha, that's one way of getting an A on a speech. I know I wouldn't be able to refute your ideas.
I'm usually fine doing public speaking because I'm confident about my writing. When it comes to speaking
in a foreign language however, my whole mojo is thrown into a blender, ingested by a small rodent and then regurgitated back to me.
brb, going to sniff some panties.
903名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 14:30:57
Most of the girls living on this planet are interested in marrying a Korean guy.
904Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s :2008/12/18(木) 14:53:40
>>903

No they aren't. Asians are widely generalized with having a small penis.
905名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 15:34:53
You cannot refute the fact that Tennessean won the second place in a U.S. national sausage contest.
The first-place winner, however, was a Korean weiner.
906jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/18(木) 18:01:30
Back just in time for 千のレス. I probably made that phrase up, but oh well.
Anyway, I'm glad if any of you found my paper to be interesting.
As I said though, it was for my final exam, so I won't know what I got on it exactly.
I'll only find out my final grade for the class. Furthermore, there will be no more assignments for that class, as it has now ended.
If I remember, and I'm still hanging around here, and you guys still care, and I have the teacher again next semester for something, perhaps I can find out the grade and let you know.

Those are all pretty unlikely though, except for the last. Professor Takahashi is the head of my school's Japanese department, and I've taken many classes with her.
I suppose still hanging around here is possible, too.
907jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/18(木) 18:03:14
>>902
Yeah, he's always up on that soapbox, glagging away...

>>905
The world record holder for eating the most hot dogs used to be a Japanese kid.
Wasn't he dethroned a year or two ago? I can't remember by whom. Fairly sure it's not a Korean though.
908jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/18(木) 18:13:36
Oh! I've just remembered something useful I found for English-speaking firefox users like me.
(And, I suppose, Japanese-native firefox users too, though they seem to mostly use the 2ch browsers)
A Greasemonkey script to skip the ad page when you click a link:
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/26472

I'm sorry for making three consecutive posts on my own. I kept remembering other things to comment on a few minutes later.
Last week this would have been a much more active time of day, and I there would probably be other people between my posts.
What's been going on lately? Things have slowed a bit.
909名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 18:28:20
>>908
>What's been going on lately? Things have slowed a bit.

I guess not so many Japanese are posting on this thread, and only a few are very fluent in English.
I think it's quite noticeable if one or two fluent users stop posting.
I've been busy lately so I couldn't post on this thread much, and the difference is still noticeable even though I'm not a very active poster.
910名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 18:33:32

=====N O T I C E=====

FIFA Club World Cup : 

MANCHESTER UNITED vs GAMBA OSAKA 

kickoff at 7:30pm 

DON'T MISS IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
911名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 18:41:35
By the way, can I ask Americans and Britons, if there are on this thread now, a question about numbers in English?
I heard there are differences about 4 digit numbers between American and British English.

I think 1,000 is read as "one thousand," and probably 1,500 is "fifteen hundred."
How about, say, 7,800 or 4,567?? I heard Americans tend to use "X hundred" style for larger 4 digit numbers than Britons.
Can you spell out the following numbers? Is there differences among dialects?
I appreciate if you let me know any rules about this which might seem to be "irregular" to foreigners.

1,050
1,234
2,500
3,456
4,900
5,000
7,890
9,009
9,090
9,900
9,999
912名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 18:45:10
Don't think, just feel !
913名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 18:50:10
As for the slowing down, I think high schoolers and college students are/were taking finals or studying for them.
914jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/18(木) 19:09:24
>>911

Some of these I'll say two ways. There are some numbers that I would probably say one way in my head, but I feel people would be confused if I actually said them.
So I speak the number differently than if I'm just thinking it.

1,050
In my head, this is "ten fifty"
Out loud, it could be either that or "one thousand fifty" or "a thousand and fifty" or any combination of one/a with or without the "and"

1,234
one thousand, two hundred thirty-four. Long and unwieldy. This would be a nuisance to say.

2,500
definitely twenty-five hundred

3,456
three thousand, four hundred fifty six. Again, a nuisance to say.

(cont)
915jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/18(木) 19:11:02
>>914

4,900
forty-nine hundred

5,000
many possibilities for an even thousand. "fifty hundred" is not one of them.
This be: "five thousand" "5 k" "5 grand" depending on the context.
"Five thousand" would probably be most common.

7,890
in my head, "seventy-eight ninety"
Out loud, there is a small possibility I'd say that, but probably "seven thousand, eight hundred ninety" to avoid confusion.

9,009
Nine thousand (and) nine.
the "and" is optional.

9,090
in my head, "ninety-ninety"
out loud, "nine thousand (and) ninety"

9,900
probably "nine thousand, nine hundred."
To say "ninenty-nine hundred" sounds strange. I'm not sure if that's because "ninety-nine" is right next to "hundred" when counting, or because it's particularly large, or because it's repeating nines.
Probably some combination of those reasons.

9,999
I suppose "nine thousand, nine hundred, ninety nine."
sometimes maybe "ninety-nine, ninety-nine."

(cont)
916jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/18(木) 19:13:29
>>915

It's important to note that depending on the context, some of these might be said differently.
If you're counting objects - Fish, for example - I'd pretty much use the forms I said that I would use when speaking.

On the other hand, if I'm just giving some numbers that aren't for counting - like in an address, or phone number - I would be much more likely to either say it the way it is in my mind, or to say each number individually.
For example, "1,234" would probably be "twelve thirty-four" if it's a street address, and either that or "one two three four" if it's a phone number or random string of numbers.

If you're talking about money, things sometimes change. Even thousands (5,000 10,000 etc) would be much more likely to be referred to as "grand" in this context than any other.
I would recommend against using "grand" for anything besides precise thousands of dollars (perhaps other currencies, I don't have experience with how people in other english-speaking countries refer to their money)
Thus, "I won thirteen grand at the casino" is much more natural than "my house is thirteen grand square feet."
In fact, grand is pretty much a counter used for money. I wouldn't use it in any other context.

Saying "kay" on the other hand is a bit more versatile. k being the abbreviation for kilo, or thousand.
You could still say "I won thirteen kay at the casino"
We had the "year 2k" or simply "y2k" scare back at the end of the year 1999, but this situation won't come up for another 991 years, so I wouldn't worry about it.
917名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 19:31:31
>>910
Yes, of course !!
I arrived at home just now.
I was relieved to come home in time!
918名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 19:35:18
>>914-916
Thank you! These are really helpful posts. I know a few British English learners who pronounce 4,900 as "four thousand nine hundred,"
and they say it's strange to say forty-nine hundred, which I always do.

9,900 seems a little tricky. I thought it was either ninenty-nine hundred or nine thousand, nine hundred.

I'm now curious if Americans from other states would say them in a different way.
Possibly some Californians might say numbers aloud differently?
919jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/18(木) 19:37:55
>>910, >>917
I wonder if Man. U is イギリス人's team.

Personally, I don't care much for most sports.
I surf, rock climb, occasionally study some martial art or other. Those are my sports.
Basketball, football, soccer, baseball... These don't interest me.
920jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/18(木) 19:42:45
>>918
I'm glad I could be helpful.
9,900 is a bit tricky. I don't think I'd look at you strangely if you said "ninety-nine hundred" but it seems a little off. Maybe it's personal preference.
I hadn't thought of regional differences. I wonder if any of the other Americans who come here would be willing to give their input?
We seem to have people from all over the place.
ベイエリア人, Crystal, and I are form California.
Where else are people? Tennessee, Louisiana, Illinois, Massachusetts, Florida.
America seems fairly well represented.

If you don't feel it would compromise your anonymity, would some of you 日本人 be willing to tell what areas you're from?
921名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 19:44:21
>>910
>>917
>>919
Thanks! I'd have missed the game if you didn't mention it.
922jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/18(木) 19:59:32
>>910
>>919
Good luck, Japan!
It's bed for me, now. お休み.
923名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 20:04:59
Hey there,
I wanted to start reading newspaper written in English
and I bought one at kiosk in today's morning.
I thought it would cost around 200 yen,but it was 300 yen,
I wondered it's too expensive for it,and I noticed that wasn't English one,but Portuguese!
Just laugh at me!
924名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 20:45:41
>>922
You are a night owl.

>>923
I bet you live in a town where Brasilian workers live.
Inexpensive Newspaper is Daily Yomiuri.
925名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 21:52:46
That was really great game !!
Thanks GAMBA OSAKA.

Huhh, I enjoyed a lot.
During the game, my heart was ached because it was beating a lot.
I might become heart desease.
GAMBA was beaten down by Man.U, but it was okay. Good game.

>>922
Good-Night !
応援ありがとう、お休みzzZ
926名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 22:07:33
Manchester United 5-Ganba Osaka 2
5-2 one side game. Funny thing is the announcer shouted Ganba scored
as many as two goals. Yeah, it's great that Ganba scored 2 but They scored
5! There's nothing to shout about scoring 2. There's a big difference
in capability in every aspect of succer between Japan's club team champion
and The champion of Europion continent.
927名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 22:12:06
>>926
Even Japanese supporters realize the fact strongly,
they know the score was actually 5 - 3 though lol
928【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/18(木) 22:26:09
today is hell day!
if i survive this then
nothing can stop me
929名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 22:45:23
>>928
Good morning sparky.(I don't know what time is it now there though.)

Oh, man, what are you planning to do ? bad thing ? or good thing ?
930名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 23:12:44
5 - 3 sounds like a pretty good game, if it's baseball.
931名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/18(木) 23:49:08
Club World Cup was held today was'nt it!?

I forgot to watch the match!


932名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 00:18:37
>>931
Don't worry. Ganba Osaka was beaten and broken into pieces as we had expected.
933名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 00:30:09
The popularity of Korean guys among girls over the world has been sweepingly increasing day by day.
934名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 00:33:53
>>933
You are on the soapbox.
935名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 00:43:19
I'm on the run from, you know, the korean spammer.
Well, I think all I can do is to be tolerant enough to ignore him.
936名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 01:38:50
robotinmakuhari
937名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 02:12:15
I just realized Manchester scored 5 points gainst gamba.
TV has kept shouting ganma scored 3 points and it was a even fight.
Could ganma lead the game for a moment?
It's meaning less if ganma socred three poits in a losing game.
938名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 02:23:24
From 5-1 to 5-3? There seems to be a bigger difference in
than the mere score gap.
Ganba caught up with manchster by 1-1 for a while. Then man-u
scored 4 points for succession. The game was over at this point.
939名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 02:24:35
All you're talking about KOREAN,right? But I can't understand what you wanna say in a point.
In this case, does the word 'KOREAN' mean the people living in the peninsula of KOREA?
I think some of you mean only south or north but others do both of them(no separation).
There are different way of thinking.
We should clarfy it.

Though I am JAPANESE.
940名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 02:33:16
in succession should have been replaced for "for succession".
I'm tired of biased media. Some journalist, especially foreigners
like sergio echigo say the incovenient but true stories to Japanese listners.
But they couldn't tell the truth of korean fraud. They just applauded
korean murderous play in world cup. Only Zico, Stojković and Littbarski
could tell the truth. I can't forget Stojkovid 's sad face. He said
somethinlg like "World Cup is degraced".

Sergio eghigos are just anti-japan, biased people. The same extreme.
941名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 02:35:25
disgrace was more proper world. and not ganma ganba..
I'm too tired to write proper English.
942名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 02:39:24
Of course no japanese people on TV had the courage
to criticize korean fraud. Korean hrere might say korean squad
gave fortune to italian and spanish squads. lol
943イギリス人:2008/12/19(金) 04:16:53
>>911
Over here, it's really just the numbers divisible by 100 that we would
say "XX hundred" for, such as fourteen hundred for 1400, thirty-two hundred
for 3200, and so on. However, this excludes numbers divisible by 1000, so
we wouldn't really say twenty hundred for 2000, or ninety hundred for 9000.
So to answer your question...
1,050 - One thousand fifty
1,234 - One thousand, two hundred and thirty four
2,500 - twenty-five hundred
3,456 - Three thousand, four hundred and fifty-six
4,900 - Forty-nine hundred
5,000 - Five thousand
7,890 - Seven thousand, eight hundred and ninety
9,009 - Nine thousand nine
9,090 - Nine thousand ninety
9,900 - Ninety-nine hundred
9,999 - Nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety-nine

>>919
People over here only really support Manchester United if they want to
support a popular team that often wins - these people are known as 'glory
supporters'. The same goes with Liverpool, Chelsea, and so on. They'll
switch their allegiance to whomever is at the top of the Premier League.
Most people, however, tend to support their own local teams, no matter
how bad they are. You might be thinking "what if they're actually from
Manchester though?" - Manchester have another team: Manchester City. Nobody
really cares who supports who, though, unless you're in school or are a
hardcore fanatic. I don't really support anyone.

But anyway, good effort from Gamba Osaka against them. They gave a good
final push.
944jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/19(金) 04:30:24
>>924
Yes, I tend to stay up late.
Last night I ended up working on something else for a bit after I left here.
I went to bed right around 3am.

>>926
Something like: 大阪は二ゴールもできました。 I don't have the vocabulary to say "score a goal" but what I used should suffice for my meaning.
Anyway, do you suppose he said this out of national pride, or because he expected them to do worse than they actually did?
I would think the first one.

>>939
In the situation we have here, "korean spammer" probably means a spammer who is Korean.
I suppose that doesn't necessarily mean they actually live in Korea.
Maybe the reason this person is able to type well is that he's actually a Korean-American or something?
That's something I hadn't thought of before.
Anyway, if we are talking about a Korean national, then probably it would be South Korea, because North Korea is communist, and pretty separated from the rest of the world.
Don't they have something akin to the Great Firewall of China there?

There is also a possibility that "Korean spammer" could be a spammer talking about Koreans. This would also be true in the context of this board.
However, even though it's also true, this meaning doesn't seem as likely.
945名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 04:42:40
>>943
Do you think it's true that Manchester city is more popular in
Manchester, especially among working class people?
946名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 04:42:44
>They gave a good final push.

I didn't watch the game on TV but I think Manchster didn't use their
full force after they scored 5. Giving Gamba a few goals didn't change
Manchester's victory so they let Gamba score a few more goals.
947名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 05:00:45
>>944
大阪は二ゴールもできました。sounds perfect.

>Anyway, do you suppose he said this out of national pride, or because he expected them to do worse than they
actually did?

I think the announcer said that for Gamba and its enthisiastic fans.
But general succer fans here know that Gamba can't beat Manchester so
I think general succer fans thought that his comment is empty, meaningless and stupid.
948【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/19(金) 07:01:51
>>921
>Good morning sparky.(I don't know what time is it now there though.)
you are correct on that
http://4chan.b33r.net
go her eto find out what time is it in North Louisiana

>Oh, man, what are you planning to do ? bad thing ? or good thing ?
go through hell




and i survived
1 more day through that hell hole
it is not as bad as today.


im back ^^
i was a gardener for 2 hours and a Janitor for 1 long hour.
i am a shitty Janitor
i am a better electrical engineer
949【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/19(金) 07:18:44
the end of my shitty life is comming sooner than expected

My "real life" is going to start
at
12/19/2008 12:34


although it is a beautiful day outside (a nice drizzle)
 /    /  /   /  /   /     
/         __,____
   /.  /// |ヽヽ\    /  /  /
      ^^^^^.|^^^^^^
. /  /   ∧__∧    Things will get better from here on out…
      ( ´・ω・)∧∧
 /     /⌒ ,つ⌒ヽ)   //  /  /
       (___  (  __)
"''"" "'゛''` '゛ ゛゜' ''' '' ''' ゜` ゛ ゜ ゛''  
950名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 08:52:28
>>943
I didn't know Manchester has two pro succer team.
951【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田:2008/12/19(金) 09:06:39
>>943
OVER 9,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111
952名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 10:28:19
>>943
Thank you. 9,900 is trickier than I thought. I only asked about 10 numbers out of all 10000 possible numbers,
so there seems to be more regional differences. At least, 0 has many ways to say like zero, null, nil, naught...
953名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 11:07:23
People over here only really support Manchester United if they want to
support a popular team that often wins - these people are known as 'glory
supporters'.

It was the same as yomiuri kyojin gun. Kyojin's hometown has been tokyo
and kyojin once won both the pennant race and the nihon series for 9 consecutive
years. Pepole across the islands supported kyojin, Giants.
It had star-players corresponding to babe ruth and joe dimaggio and
Nolan Ryan at the same time.
Only one selection, kyojin is different point. Soccer france league
seems to be getting in the similar position. But I don't know how popular
Lyon is across France.
954名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 11:12:18
I've been always anti-giants. Anti-giants was called kyojin
fan in a way. It's somewhat true. But today I have no interest in
kyojin and wish they disappeared from TV.
World club soccer and Giants are propagandized by one tv channel, nihon
TV.
955名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 11:16:53
>>949
Oh, it's a good news,
but, one's life doesn't become full of bloom all of sudden,
so trying to improve it gradually might be good.
956名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 11:27:55
national pride, or because he expected them to do worse than they actually did?

I think the both was. Plus cheering japan team is his job.
957アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/19(金) 11:32:08
So because today was my last day of school before winter break, most of my classes were pretty low key.
In Japanese we watched a bit of ホーホケキョとなりの山田くん http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206013/ which we all thought was pretty funny.
My teacher said the characters were speaking 大阪弁, but how is that different from "regular" Japanese?
I mean, in the US there are slight differences, but really the only difference is in accent. Maybe with things like "y'all" and
ATMs in Wisconsin being called "tyme machines".
958米人:2008/12/19(金) 11:44:47
Hi everyone, anyone--
I haven't been around much this week, because I've been horrifically busy.
Today I was substitute teaching for a 5th grade class. They were very energetic and
social, which is how teachers describe students who talk too much, and don't sit still
and do their work. It's difficult with Christmas so near, plus tomorrow they all go home
two hours early because of big snow storm that's coming through.

I was reminded today of the old Cheech and Chong routine featuring Sister Mary Elephant.
Maybe you remember it:
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=OU34iLemwdY
Don't mind the pictures; they're pretty random.
**Make sure you turn down the volume when you watch it so you don't hurt your eardrums....
959名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 11:48:23
Particle can be different. Verb and noun can be different.
The diffrence of accent and pronunciation are almost always noticiable.
Everything can be different.
The standard of both japanese is the same. So there is no problem in communicating.

960名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 11:52:14
Simply put, it belong to a completely different language family.
961名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 11:53:42
>>958
Looks like you can enjoy walking in a winter wonderland.
You have a good evening!
962名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 11:55:18
アホちゃいまんねん、パーでんねん。aho chaimannnen pa-dennen
アホではなく、パーです。aho janakute pa-desu.
mean the same thing.


963名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 11:59:50
Even in tokyo, there are many ways to put the same meaning
using the same structure.
964名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 12:01:43
>>957
Well, the most outstanding difference between the regular Japanese and 大阪弁
is the accent.
大阪弁 has the characteristic in its accent.
Generally, 大阪弁 is considered to be a little bit offensive,
and you may be given a impression that 大阪弁 is vulgar, especially when you hear it spoken by young men or women
for the first time.

Another difference is that they often say in the end of their talk
'〜やねん' '〜やんけ' '〜やさかい' instead of '〜です' '〜じゃないですか' '〜です'.
I hope this help explanation help eith your understanding.

Then, I have a question, which I've wanted to ask. How many people in your Japanese class ?

>>958
Hi, 米人. It's been long time since you left here!
965名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 12:05:56
'〜です' '〜じゃないですか' '〜です'.
? we don't use it in colloquial communicating expecially
in intimate relationship.
misleading.
It's a polite way. oosakajin use these too in a situation
to be polite and formal.

〜やねん' '〜やんけ' '〜やさかい'
corresponds to words like なんだよ、じゃない、だからさ, colloquial
usages.
966名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 12:10:13
'〜じゃないですか' might be '〜やないですか'.
But the principle won't change.
967名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 12:12:16
Whatever...
968名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 12:15:12
>>965
Oh, I might make small mistakes in its nuance.
969【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/19(金) 12:21:03
970【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/19(金) 12:24:13
>>958
ohh so thats were you been ^^
971名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 12:25:17
>>958
I don't know what you are talking about.
Cheech and Chong thing.
Maybe a lady who are at a loss not knowing better way to handle
energetic and social kids.
972名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 12:25:37
>>957
The Japanese language has various dialects pretty much like British English.
Each dialect has own unique vocabulary, peculiar conjugations and/or inflections, and accents.
Actually many dialects are mutually unintelligible. We all learn the standard Japanese at school,
so we can communicate with virtually every educated Japanese person.

大阪弁 is one of the most popular non-standard dialects most of Japanese can understand.
(By the way, I was born in Osaka so I can still speak it.)
The Osaka dialect is said to be more energetic and emotional than the standard language.
The stereo typical 大阪弁 speaker is a fast talker, funny, and direct.
You can find many 大阪弁 speakers in Japanese dramas, movies, anime and whatnot.
Most of the time the characters have those energetic characteristics.

I'm kind of a reserved nerd, so people often say, "You don't look like an Osaka guy."
973名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 12:33:53
>>972
I forgot to mention this, but quiet a few comedians speak 大阪弁 presumably because of its speed and funny image.
People think 大阪弁 speakers are good at joking, so comedians pick the dialect, and the stereotype solidifies.
It's a vicious circle, if you will. Hmm..., or a virtuous circle? I don't know.
974米人:2008/12/19(金) 12:38:56
>>961
I'm looking forward to it...

>>964
Hello! (waves)

>>971
It's about a substitute teacher who has class management problems. When I was 13
or 14, I thought that comedy routine was hysterical. It's still funny for me, but
from a different perspective. Of course, it's an exaggeration--no class is actually that
bad (I hope!).
My problem is I just don't have the heart to punish the students as severely as I should.
Deep down, I prefer energetic and social kids. I think they're interesting.



975名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 12:40:45
>>969
Nice job, man
>>957
Some people saying 大阪弁 sounds rude.
Many words are different from regular Japanese,
and I think the most famous word in 大阪弁 is アカン! which means..uhh...it's kinda hard to tranlate it
アカン makes the sentence negative. It can be "Stop!" or...
976名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 12:45:49
>>964
Ok, I'm >>972 and >>973, but..., hey. What are you talking about?

>Generally, 大阪弁 is considered to be a little bit offensive,
>and you may be given a impression that 大阪弁 is vulgar, especially when you hear it spoken by young men or women
>for the first time.

A dialect can be offensive, huh? My accent is vulgar?
Could my dialect be any more offensive than your post?
977名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 12:48:11
>>976
I'm also 大阪人lol
978jook ◆jook7sIb7g :2008/12/19(金) 12:50:28
Sparky, you jumped the gun a bit. There's still plenty of life left in this thread!
979名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 12:54:20
>>977
...so what? You mean self-loathing is an excuse or what?
980名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 12:58:05
>>979
Hey, dude, take it easy.
981名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:01:22
>>958
I just saw the video. That was a little classic, but I had a fun time. thanks
>>979
Now, give me that knife. thanks.
982名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:02:04
>>979
WHY you feel so irritated ? Huh ?
WHen someone say something bad even slightly to 大阪人, they start to get angry immediatly.
This is ONE OF THE REASON why 大阪人 is hated by the rest of the Japanese.
Read my post more carefully, or you will realize I don't hate 大阪, though I don't like young 大阪人.
(I'm 20 and also one of the young oosakajinn though.)
When it comes to the 大阪弁 from decent 大阪人,
It's be okay. There is no problem.

I'm sure that 大阪弁 is considered to be a bit offensive, and I can't understand why
you try to deny this fact.
983名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:04:23
Some Osakajin tend to stick with their dialect just out of pride and refuse to
speak Standard Japanese even when it's inappropriate such as in business
meetings and official conferences. Better yet, somehow they even try to argue
that other speech patterns including Standard Japanese are mere dialects, but
their own style is truly authentic and thus there's no need to conform to any
other ones. Apart from the validity of their assertion, that sort of emergence of
regionalism can describe one of their remarkable chracteristics,
and I personally do not hate it.
984名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:04:45
>>982
You should learn what "offensive" means. It's that rude.
985名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:07:00
Can Prime Minister of Japan use an Osaka dialect when the Diet is in session? I don't think so.
986【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/19(金) 13:08:36
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT?
AAAARGH IT FRUSTRATES ME
987名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:09:28
>>982
Are you talking about 外人? If so, that makes sence.
988名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:10:27
>>987
989名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:10:52
>>986
Is that you, Sperky, or is this us?
990名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:11:04
>>979
>Generally, 大阪弁 is considered to be a little bit offensive,
This is too offensive. What you just said is:

一般的には、大阪弁を話すことは少々失礼にあたると考えられています。

Probably you didn't mean it, right?
991アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2 :2008/12/19(金) 13:11:41
Woah, a lot of good info there on 大阪弁, thanks! I learned "何ぼ" when I was in Osaka =P.
I ran into this hilarious website when I did a quick google search on 大阪弁:
www.city.osaka.jp/english/osaka_dialect/index.swf

In the US there isn't anything as distinct as dialects, just accents it seems.
>>964
About 8 students including myself are in AP Japanese, and another 17 or so are in Japanese 4. We're all in the same classroom though.
AP students are basically required to learn all the material while the level 4 students are only responsible for about 2/3 of the material.
This is just for my grade though, there are students taking Japanese in every grade. In total, I'd say there are 120 students in my school taking Japanese.
992名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:11:57
Sorry, >>990 was meant to >>982.
993名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:15:51
>>985
Of course he/she can. Your fucked up view kills minority languages like Ainu.
994名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:15:56
>>991
Just incredible to hear figures like those.
I was thinking everybody started taking Chinese instead of Japanese.
Glad to hear that there are lots of survivers.
995名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:18:27
>>993
Oh, yeah? "fucked-up" is your way of thinking, dude.
996名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:18:47
>>986
Alllllright. Here is a fact; Osaka has the highest crime rate in Japan.
>>991
oh yeah, that's the one 大阪弁 that is really useful.
Actually if you add 何ぼですか?, then you can use that everywhere in Japan!(little bit informal though.
997名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:19:39
>>990
what I meant was that people slightly feel offensed by 大阪弁 because it has hurtful nuanse.
998名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:19:48
>>995
No yours asshole
999【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. :2008/12/19(金) 13:19:51
>>989
yes IT IS ME
1000名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/19(金) 13:20:44
1000'
10011001
このスレッドは1000を超えました。
もう書けないので、新しいスレッドを立ててくださいです。。。