Hey!!! you NEETs, nerds, YouTube-link spammers, pedophiles, neo-Nazis, Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers, Part-Time-Preachers, Diplomats' spoiled sons, losers who can't remember Kanji characters, Big-boobs fans, Weeaboos from all around the world, learners of Japanese who are too lazy to update their Japanese blogs very often, and cunning linguists. And let's celebrate the comeback of the Internet-addicted housewife!
* keira=robotintokyo (California) A woman who once announced that she'd start vlogging. She went to buy a webcam but the nearest shop is on the north pole, and she hasn't come back yet. Maybe attacked by a porlar bear or now ended up living in Greenland. She might be robotingreenland now. "robotintokyo" is a part of her blog's URL.
* ベイエリア人 (California) A man who claims he leads a reclusive lifestyle. Nice man who answeres to our questions in another thread. His dream is to bungee jump from the Golden Gate bridge.
* tennessian (Tennessee) A man who loves Japanese culture and wants to go out with Japanese exchange students in his university. The winner of the 28th Elvis impersonator contest. His favorite CD is House remix of Elvis's tunes. Devoted Dixie Chicks fan.
* アメリカ人 (Chicago) Man with panty fetish. His goal is to get full schalorship from one of the IV League universities or USC, scientology or scatology major. Learning Japanese but not so serious about it. When he gets nervous before an exam, he sniffs his host sister's panty to relax. It's said that lots of bras and panties were gone when he left his host family's house. He knows how to choose the best and ideal host family to stay with. His advice to students who wants to homestay in Japan is that the first thing they have to do on arriving host family's home is to make sure where the washing machine is. Cheerful and outgoing.
* crystal (California) ESL teacher wannabe. Kind enough to answer our English questions. Loves Japanese pop culture. A tad more serious than アメリカ人 but not so serious about studying Japanese. She loves Japan and things Japanese but draws a fine line between weeaboos and herself. Thinks it's a good idea to live in Japan but not longer than one year. She believes that being away from her boyfriend for such a long time deteriorates their relationship. Loves to play catch with her mom. She loves spicy hot Orochon ramen noodles. She likes it in spicy level 7. (extremely hot)
* jook (california) Tech-savvy. Nobody knows more about the US cell phone industry than him. He's so tech-savvy that he can text message or give a call even when his cell phone is turned off. Nice enough to answer our English questions here and in another thread. Loves to sleep with his girlfriend behind his parents' eyes. Desperate to shave his girlfriend's pubic hair. Bean sprouts are his favorite ramen topping and he even grows them in his room. He calls himself 男伊達.(dandy guy)
*【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】ミ田 (Louisiana) A boy also known as Sparky who lives only in cyber space. Sometimes you have a feel that it's easier to communicate with cats and dogs than him. Some says he's a gifted troll but he insists he's gifted in science and math. Administrator of deserted image boards. It's said that his Windows Me PC calculates 4 times faster than IBM's Deep Blue.
* 米人(Boston) Red Sox fan. Lived for a year in a rehabilitation facility to cure her Internet addiction. Now she has developed game addiction and every time she spots her kids playing Guirtar Hero, she snatches the console from them and plays it on her own. Actually, she ties them up with ropes and kicks them away into the closet until she finishes playing the game. She loves chatting here more than taking care of her family. She's nice enough to give some good advice to learners of Japanese. Besides, she is greatly admired as virtual mom by posters here. Her quality time is when she reads Boston Globe over coffee on a beautiful Sunday morning, with her husband and kids locked in the closet.
* Ether (Florida) Has travelled to Japan. Taller than 6 feet and blond. Drives a jaloppy. There's a framed photo of two sumo wrestlers he saw during his vist to Japan on the wall of his room. His penis was bitten off by a gigantic aligator while he was taking a nap naked in the backyard. His mom is on the FBI's missing people's list. On the day he saw her last, he saw a huge alligator with its stomach swollen disappearing into a swamp.
* Captain Spicard (Florida) Born in NY. Guardian of Sparky. He came all the way from 4chan to take him back to his original playground. The author of "Training and Taming Sparky for Dummies." Doesn't give a shit about studying Japanese but doesn't mind helping Japanese English learners. He's a pro websurfer with 13 web browsers installed. Atheist. (Rumor has it that he gets extremely excited when he opens a window of his advent calender every morinig.)
* linger (Massachusetts) Born and raised in Massachusetts. Nice enough to answer questions about English. He claims he has a 3.76 college GPA. He doesn't give a damn about learning Japanese. Spanish is the only language he's interested in learning. His goal in life is becoming an illegal immigrant in Mexico or Spain.
* firestar Devoted fan of Mac laptop PC with multi-touch trackpad. His major is computer information sciences. He has installed 2ch browser, meaning ready to get addicted to 2ch. Loves netsurfing with a subway sandwitch in his mouth.
<Other nationalities>
* イギリス人(UK) Foreigners come and go but he is the longest term resident here. Diplomat's spoiled sun. He has lived in several countries as a child and now he has no clues where he's from. He's nice and sincere enough to answer even stupid English questions. He's been lurking since he got a job in web design. (He's busy.) He was working on making a new breed of PC virus to spread around the world on on Christmas but he ended up getting infected with flu virus. He knows quite a lot about Japanese TV shows and movies. He is a great cook. He loves to bake a chocolate cake. Every wall in his room is covered with posters of 広末涼子. (Ryoko Hirosue)
* スウェーデン人(Sweden) He used to frequent this thread but now he doesn't seem to be able to access to 2ch. 2ch has been denying accesses from Sweden or of people with se. IP address. His English proficiency is almost perfect and was nice enough to answer questions of us English learners. He's thinking about studying in university in Japan.
I CAN SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was gonna say you could buy them online too, but actually going out shopping is much healthier and normal unless you're too busy or lazy. I should go shopping.
>>14 That 'd apply to all people who go through such an painful experience in teenagehood. But it won't do you any good to complain about where you are in now.
it is strange because the place were i found Yotsuba Western films are right across the aisle. and Hentai videos (2d and 3d) too.. ............................................
>>29 im actually happy now! .................................................................................. it is laughter the most powerful medicine
Hey sparky4. It's written that you live in the cyber space. That means you slipped out of the real world into the dark hole of the Internet, right? I'm also the one. Seems we have a lot in common.
>>39 >Do you spend most of your day sitting in front of the computer? yes infact i spend all day doing that >And are you planning on doing something today other than that? nothing to do in North Louisiana
I didn't know you live in North Louisiana. Sounds like typical countryside in the U.S. I heard that in the countryside, people's only hobbies are sex and/or internet.
>>39 Thanks. Please let me say why I think the meaning of troll is 底辺 in Japanese. There is a reason. When I browsed a video on youtube, where I found a lot of comments to the owner. They say `she is a troll` , `successfull troll is successfull` and somethng like that. So, I thought troll means a person who has low intelligence and is low social position.
>>45 It's from this movie: http://youtube.com/watch?v=wDiUG52ZyHQ Wow, there have been a lot of new posts. Well, guess I missed out on today's fun and now I have to go to bed early for a college interview tomorrow. Later y'all.
>>45 After the first official trailer of 300 was released, it immediately caught the attention of fagland. The two memes that spawned from this are TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL, and THIS. IS. SPARTA!!!
The original execution of the meme featured the movie's star either exclaiming "TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL" [1] or "GUYS, I FORGOT WHERE WE ARE DINING TONIGHT". Contrary to popular belief, the proper response is not 'Applebees' or 'Olive Garden'.
>>56 what sparky is trying to say is that the lines in this trailer became an instant internet meme. there are many comical puns associated with the lines.
Messenger: This is blasphemy! This is madness! King Leonidas: Madness...? [shouting] King Leonidas: THIS. IS. SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! [Kicks the messenger down the well] wwwwwwwwwww funny
>>65 he is trying to rally his troops by implying that they will fight well and with out mercy until they die themselves; and that their battle will be so horrific that they will go to hell. this is how well they will fight. so well that they will die and go to hell as punishment for being so brutal.
>>62 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2008/12/13(土) 15:05:36 >>57 lol >>58 Thanks, those responses are pretty funny considering how serious the lines sounds. >Thanks, those responses are pretty funny considering how serious the lines sounds. >considering how serious the lines sounds. >considering how serious >serious This is why I said, "WHY so serious?".
new topic about my number 4 (four) is a number, numeral, and glyph. It is the natural number following 3 and preceding 5. Four is the only number in the English language for which the number of letters in its name is equal to the number itself
The Chinese, the Korean and the Japanese are superstitious about the number four because it is a homonym for "Death" in their languages. you mean: 四? what about 13?
In cities where East Asian and Western cultures blend, such as in Hong Kong and Singapore, it is possible in some buildings that both 13 and 14 are skipped as floor numbers along with all the other 4's. http://4chan.b33r.net/My%20Pictures/!JPG/facestairs.jpg
>>84 Speaking of 4, what do you think about Unohana? She's the Captain of the 4th squad, healers!!! She is calm even when faced with a bunch of Arrancars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>84 >It is the natural number following 3 and preceding 5. Four is the only number in the English language for which the number of letters in its name is equal to the number itself
WE ARE ALL BLEACH FANS!!!!!!!!!! BLEACH IS AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLEACH RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JAPANESE MASTERPIECE MANGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>88 Ummm, it means the fifth foor is actually the fourth foor and the fifteenth foor is actually theirteenth floor ? Or, fourth floor has no residents ?
>>99 I like the song, too. Aqua Times is actually a good and nice band. I sometimes see them perform on TV. And they are superb. Have you listened to their other songs?
>>104 OF COURSE!! I KNOW ABOUT SOME OF THEIR SONGS, BUT NOT TOO MUCH!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT WOULD YOU RECCOMMEND!!!!!!???????????
WANT ME TO SHARE BLEACH EPISODES? THERE ARE MANY ON YOUTUBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU WANT TO WATCH THEM?????? I'LL PUT LINKS HERE!!! COUNT ON ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>102 I don't think so. This is a chat thread. We can talk whatever we like. Bleach is surely nice. No wonder some people are impressed with the manga. He's probably a fanatic. lol
@Small bears are easier to keep in your house than big sneaks are.
AMobile phones are easier to carry with than PCs are.
The point of my question is below. Should I 'Small bears are easier to be kept in your house than big sneaks are.' instead of above one ? Thank you for your help.
MORE THAN 330 EPIS RELEASED ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU SHOULD START READING BLEACH NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
>>81 Is Thousand not working properly? It's working perfect on my macbook. It may be helpful to the developer if you could give me more details. I'll shoot a bag report on the developer's thread. If "crap on me" means something like "not my kind," tell me so. I'm always looking for a new English phrase.
Anyway, in case you are back to the browser, a poster on the thread found a makeshift way for the Search Web. You can do it by highlighting a term and Command + Shift + L.
>>132 thousand is working fine now, thank you for your concern. it is now running fine.
i am sorry i was not paying attention to my english, "thousand crapped out on me" is slang for "thousand has given up on me" or "thousand has stopped working" it is best not to use this style of speech.
DO YOU THINK SMALL TITS ARE BETTER THAN NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????? INOUE HAS SUPER-SIZED TITS!!!!!!!!! KON MENTIONED THEY ARE THE VALLEY OF THE GODDESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUNNY, ISN'T IT!!?????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
>>141 Some might say they prefer small tits, while others say big ones are the best. And I'm easily facinated with big boobs. lol I don't know, but I can't help it.
As for English, I want you to speak as you always do rather than make you baby-talk to us. Learners, at least I, want to listen to "real" English, not dumbed down language.
I was able to learn a new phrase "crap out on" from your post, and I was able to learn many things dictionaries don't tell me. You said it in a real conversation so I know the context and stuff.
Real usage of language can only be learned through real conversations. If you talk in a simplified, artificial way, I'll learn dumbed down English. I don't want to speak like a dumb or learn artificial language.
Of course, I'd like you to have fun in this thread, so it's all right not to use slang or difficult words if you don't want to. But if you're doing so because you think it's good for learners, I'm glad if you talk as you always do.
>>148 ask away, i find it rather interesting. just make note that i don't have any training as an english teacher, i am but a 4channer who came here only several days ago
>>149 Thanks. If I don't get the sense of an obscure word from your explanation, I know what google is for. If I want to know difficult grammar, I can ask Crystal. She's majoring in linguistics and planning on going to grad school to be an ESL teacher.
I'm posting on 4chan like everyday, though I'm more careful about my English when I post on English forums and image boards.
BTW, if you came from /g/, I made the Sparky thread the other day.
>>151 That's nice. That means we can learn words that our dictionaries don't know. But I think I can find many slang words in Urban Dictionary. Even some 4chan memes are explained. Besides, we can google anything.
I've plugged into my SRS very odd slangy phrases like Shit was so cash. We can learn "proper" English at school anyway. It's not like I want to learn formal language and say "I would be most delighted if you could let us listen to proper English." I'm sick of those how-learners-should-speak English.
>>154 I'm posting on /a/ everyday. I'm not a tripfag (read tripfriend, if you're Cirno) either.
Do you mind me asking you a simple question on this one? What did you make that thread for the other day? I remember someone saying he made it for the lulz. Is this correct?
>>155 well welcome to 4chan! prepare too see much strange english most native english speakers don't even understand 4chan. it has got a slang of its own. pretty much one has to be in the geek subculture to understand that place. when i talk with other 4channers at my school the non-4chan people around us cant understand our convos at all.
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>>156 "for the lulz" is a VERY hard to explain phrase. epic lulz are like mass trolling events. i will try to find a page on this, 4chan used to have this great wiki that offered translations but sadly i think thats gone now
>>158 Been there for more than 2 years. Used to lurk /b/ and /a/, and then started posting on /a/ and /lang/. So I saw the /a/ split when moot made /jp/.
My command of 4chan slang is much better than your average newfag, I think. I never ever mention 4chan in real life.
>>156 Forgot what I said, but maybe something like "I did it for the sheer lulz." I can't explain what it means or translate it into Japanese. It's already "obsolete," if you ask me.
"For the lulz" is definitely difficult to explain. "Lulz" itself comes from "lols", which is a pluralized form of "lol". "Lol" means "laughing out loud". However, usually, people who use "lol" are thought to be immature or unintelligent (unlike "w"?)... But, that's not important to this discussion.
I found this in an article online: [The phrase "I did it for the lulz"] usually refers to deliberate trolling behavior intended to harass Internet users for the amusement of others.
Maybe that's true, and maybe that's a little inaccurate.
Have you heard of someone doing something "for the hell of it"? I think that's a little similar.
>>3-7 Please remember k-tan, swedish girl. K-tanのことも思い出してやってください。 Oh, there was ロシア人 who bombarded this thread and disappeared quickly.
There was スコットランド人 and he was one of the most noticeable foreigner during a certain short period. There were only a couple of frequent foreign posters before. I liked to hear rivalry between English and Scotland. He was anglophobe and socialist and secessionist. It's good to be able to feel real foreign atmosphere directly from the internet. If I could see south vs north, republican vs democrat, neo-nazi vs anti-racist(commie) and so forth in this thread. Americans here are polarized into liberals and Weeboos. Fat chance. There was once a white nationalist who was a supporter of Jared Taylor. He was interested in Japanese culture as well.
>>173 These above topics of discussions are quite boresome(especially neo-nazi vs anti-racist) I like more practical topics, such as the usage of the certain words or pharases, the difference between Americans and Japanese cultures, corrections of Japanese sentenses wriiten by foreigers or something like these.
I'm not intrigued how the British feel against Scotish at all. (I know how they hate each other because my cousins's father is Sctotish, though I'm pure Japanese.)
I felt very bored when people here disscussed about racial topics. (Who can say sincerely that the race is superior but the other is inferior ? Illogical.)
>>177 Good morning. I have a question, which I have been eager to ask you. Why do you use 'were' instead of 'where'? Is it a trend amoung young Americans?
>>176 It's your taste. neo-nazi vs anti-racist it's an exaggeration. South vs North, republican vs democrat. christian right or liberal are more typical.
>>176 The friction between England and Scotland dates back from around the 14th century, when King Edward decided to invade and annex the northern lands (but not without a struggle). There has been much conflict since, even once the Stuart dynasty took over from the Tudors which united the countries under one monarch.
I'm not sure why there's still some conflict between the two countries, but it does feel as though the Scots dislike us more (hence the SNP being elected and a referendum for independence).
>>987 (last thread) The meaning of 'until' is somewhat ambiguous. Some people claim it means 'up to the time and including', and some 'up to the time but excluding'. There are sometimes disagreements even in courtroom trials about this.
>>195 Hello, Tennessean! I'm glad you got your own trip code. Now no one can impersonate you anymore. The dude who impersonated you often posts KKK stuff here. I just don't get what he's thinking. You have a good day!
>>190 Ummm, thanks. I leanrned a lot. Speaking of that Scotish father, when FIFA world cup was held at France in 1998(or at Japan&Korea in 2002... I fougot), he cheered up Sweeden, though England was also in France. (Scotland couldn't remain best 46 countries.) I got to know how Scotich dislike England at that time.. (He lives in England now, though.)
>>195 His grammar isn't always correct, but he's not an idiot. Sparky is trying to be loved, though it doesn't always work. I don't want to call a person who tries to be nice an idiot.
Slight mental problem? He would be clear winner in Special Olympics high energy sports.
Where and were have different pronunciations. He just can't spell or use grammar or punctuation correctly. Hopefully he will learn from other native speakers here.
>>173-175 >>7 is not me. It was posted 28 seconds after >>6 was posted. More than 30 seconds has to pass to post another post.
Yeah, I remember K-tan (Swedish), ロシア人(Russian),スコットランド人(Scotish), ノルウェー人 (Norwegian), オーストラリア人(Australian) and カナダ人. (Canadian) Everyone who remembers them can add their profiles. I wrote >>3-6 for the fun of it and to practice writing English and anybody can rewirte them.
Maybe 3-6 has to be more short and concise or true to facts, but as I wrote them, I added jokes and tried to be humorous. Maybe I went a little overboard.
>>190 I'm 987 of the previous thread. It sounds like the same as "more than" and "less than." I heard for some, "more than 60 pounds" includes 60 pounds, and for others, it doesn't include 60 pounds, although, when it's used in technical writing, it doesn't include 60.
>>206 >>207 I have it later this afternoon, I just wanted to make sure I got enough sleep because usually I don't. I don't want to be tired and botch things up now do I? I should probably leave the panties at home, I don't think the interviewer would appreciate me inhaling them throughout the interview lol.
Luckily, I have a friend that interviewed with the same college a few weeks ago, so she gave me a good idea of what they'll ask. It will most likely be about my hobbies (panty sniffing, obviously) and my academic interests. The interview is actually an optional part of the application process, but it shows you are interested in the school. I already submitted my application online, so this is the last step.
>>209 But if you are thinking of majoring scatology in the uni, I think letting them see you sniffing them works in favor of you in one way. If you don't want them to see you doing it, then you can go to the men's room and sniff it until you get relaxed.
>It will most likely be about my hobbies (panty sniffing, obviously) Haha!
Seriously though, good luck!
I wonder some of the applicants who didn't take the interview can enroll in the univeristy.
The scatology thing is a joke, right? I didn't know any universities offered a major like that. perhaps they would offer it as a specialization in med school...
My sister is an internal medicine doctor right now. She didn't have a life for decade that she was in university, medical school, and residency... I think out of her original class of 100 people, she was one of two to not drop out at some point and actually become a doctor. It is pretty hard.
There was also the korean girl who was here for a couple of days. I can't remember her name. She seemed to be scared away by people being rude because they associated her with the korea spammer.
オーストラリア人(豪人?) and カナダ人 are not as frequent as k-tan. YouTube-link spammers is originally an reference to k-tan. a girl only in one thread does not deserve to be remembered, I guess.
>>218 "out on" makes it more emphatic. As if everyone else is taking advantage of the opportunity, and you are the only one to miss it. Otherwise, they are equivalent phrases.
>>218 we say " i don't want to miss the bus" we would never say "i don't want to miss out on the bus" "miss out on" implies that one is being left out of something such as an activity or an opportunity. "miss the bus" means the bus left with out someone.
so for your 1) and 2) they have the exact same meaning in this case because of it being an opportunity. there is no difference between 1) and 2)
well thats my two cents, but i'm no english expert
>>224 Nope. You wouldn't say "I'll miss out on you." In this case, the meaning of "miss" is different. If you say "I'll miss you," then that's a general feeling of longing and lonliness when they're gone. It's not the same as missing the bus.
>>224 Oops, I posted >>224 before refreshing my browser..
My question seemed almost answered already!? Native speakers wouldn't say "I'll miss out on you" because "you" is obviously a person, not "an activity or an opportunity". Am I correct?
>>222 Actually I supported Hillary Clinton in the primaries. But I switched my support to Obama after he won the nomination. He didn't bother coming to Massachusetts once he was nominated; we're the bluest of blue states. I think he could be a great president. I'm very hopeful, even though our country is in tough straits right now.
>>224 You wouldn't say "miss out on you" because that implies that more than one person is taking advantage of that opportunity at the same time. Not a nice implication when you're talking about a person. "I'll miss you" is a slightly different meaning...it means you're sad not to see someone again for a while. Not necessarily that you'll never see them again, unlike a missed opportunity or bus or whatever.
>> 227 "miss the bus" = the bus left with out a person "miss you" = feeling of longing for a person "miss out on" = left out of an event or opportunity
In japan we are taught that "can have + past participle" is gramatically wrong and not used. Do you agree or disagree? If used, is it formal or informal?
"Miss out on" is used specifically for an event or opportunity and interchangeable for "miss" as an emphasis. You can't use it for vehicles such as buses and trains. And to miss someone is used to mean your emotions for him/her.
>>232 i think you would want to say, could have + past participle rather than can have + past participle for example: "i could have ate that" is correct and "i can have ate that" is wrong
I seem to have this (phrasal) verb + "on" problem..
The other day, I watched TV and ran into the scene - someone said, "Don't die on me!!" when his father passed away in the hospital. And his father lied on the bed, not on the guy himself. Why did he say "on me"? On makes me confused.
>>213 Maybe joke, maybe not. But the winner of the Elvis impersonator contest thing isn't a joke. :p Two out of 100? That sounds really tough to survive all the way through and become a doctor. It must be really reassuring to have a doctor in your family.
>>214 Thank you. It wasn't easy to write them. As for bean sprouts thing, I spotted a plant pot of them in the far corner of the photo you uploaded.
>>216 This thread wasn't her main thread and she showed up much more often in J-->E translation thread thread as far as I know. She didn't use handle name but somehow I could tell which posts were hers.
>>219 k-tan is from Sweden so maybe her access to 2ch has been denied, too.
>>231 Racially aware??? No, I supported Hillary because I thought she had more experience. But Obama seems to be a quick learner, so he'll probably be fine.
>>244 I'll have to take a look at that picture again to see what you're talking about. There aren't any plants in my room. I do like bean sprouts in my ramen though, as long as there aren't TOO many.
I'm confused. Do you people understand why "can have past partciple" is not allowed? If you can understand, could you explain to me? You people just have not used it because it has not been used?
>>250 It's one of those things that "just sounds wrong" I suppose that's not very helpful, but I don't know beyond that. Someone might know rules. I just know it doesn't sound right.
He can't have eaten all five pizzas by himself. He couldn't have eaten all five pizzas by himself.
Both sentences express the speaker's disbelief with reference to the action. They have almost identical meanings. The only difference is where the speaker places himself. The first sentence puts the speaker's disbelief in the prersent. (Even now) I can't believe that.... The second sentence is just a statement about the past, so it uses a past tense modal. ------------- How do you think about explanation of a guy from New York? Wait. He is refering to "can not have", not "can have". "Can not have" and "could not have" simultaneously exists while "could have" only exists. It's a mystery.
>>231 I forgot to say I did buy the first volume of Doraemon, but I haven't read it yet. Right now I am slowly working my way through an excellent Japanese grammar dictionary. It has explanations of why you use words one way and not another and shows examples of bad grammar and explains why it is bad. It's very helpful for a non-native speaker. I try to read the example sentences in the original Japanese, but I have to cheat and read the romaji when I don't recognize a kanji.
>>246 I've never heard "you can have +PP" but I think it is sometimes used in the negative. "You can't have said that..." as a way of emphasizing the impossibility of the situation, although "couldn't have said" is probably better English. All of the examples I saw in that thread were in the negative.
>>259 Interesting.... Then what's the difference between "You CAN'T say that..." and "you can't have said that..."? I'm curious. By the way, I've just come here.
>>245 Thanks. I didn't know "can't have PP" is almost informal. Do you think "may have been" is stronger than "might have been" in belief in possibility? There is no significant difference in the meaning?
>>263 "You can't say that" means the person you're talking to isn't allowed to say it. "You can't have said that" means you (the speaker) don't believe they said it.
>>266 Thank you for your straightforward answer. One is "not to allow to say it". The ohter is "do not believe ...". Following >>259, it could be more likely to be "impossible to believe"?
>>256 Yes, and she also wrote she loves extremely spicy hot ramen so she ordered ramen in level 7. And Orochon is in Alaska and is open 24/7 365days a year. They only serve Jooky for beverage and two days a week they serve sushi, too.
>>251 The bean sprouts plant pot is behind the white plastic bag on the ground on the left.
>>261 Then my joke fell flat. Let me explain. You ate her bean sprouts at orochon. --->You like to eat them. ---->you love them so much that you plant them even in your own room for an occasion when you eat instant ramen at home.
>>279 I'll try harder next time. I guess the joke this time was too far out there for me to grasp it. I'm not always good at making connections between seemingly unrelated things.
>>283-284 Actually, I did think about the comparison to growing marijuana in the closet. I don't think pot would be good for me though - I'm already way laid-back. I have one particular high-strung friend that I genuinely think it would help though.
>>269 >Can I say, "don't play TV games on me"? no, don't say that.
what i was trying to say before, was "don't die on me" mean, as i take it, "don't die on my watch" which means "don't die right now as i am here (die at some later date instead)"
just try not to use this form of english, it is almost special case.
>>289 no problem! they are quite humorous! also # 『【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田◆AZWpeumso.』はBARギコっぽい一般の住民である。 # 外国人らしい。 # トランスミュージックと初音ミクをこよなく愛する。 # ウィンドウズMeを使っている。Meをバカにすると怒り出す。 # ルイジアナ州に住むアメリカ人らしい。
>>274 1. X won't have said that O wouldn't have said that "I wouldn't have said that if I'd known better." 2. may not have said that expresses uncertainty or a mild disagreement about whether someone has said something "He may not have finished the report yet--I'll check." "He may not have been the one who said/did that." 3. X shall not have O should not have I shouldn't have done/said/... BTW, shall not isn't too commonly used I think. Except in the Bible. "Thou shalt not [insert Ten Commandments here].
>>290 actually, the term "big brother" is more common than you might expect. It's used to describe the government trying to take more control of peoples' lives, and to monitor everything people do. Tactics like phone-tapping, scanning emails, etc. raise concerns over the right to personal privacy. The government claims it has to do these things "to keep us safe" from "terrorists" and the like, but personally I think that's bull. Particularly with the passage of the Patriot Act, the US government has been given more authority to spy on citizens. Any time something comes up that would reduce peoples' privacy, or give the government control of our day-to-day lives, the term "big brother" is probably not far off.
>>290, >>297 イギリス人 would probably have some good input on this topic too, depending on where he lives. I know London has cameras all over the place. I saw a statistic that on any given day, walking around London, you're likely to be photographed something like 6,000 times? The police can see everything that happens there. New York also apparently is implementing a similar system. http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/09/new-york-city-to-get-london-style-surveillance-veil/ But it's not so widespread yet.
>>296 I see. How did you know the translation page? From your posts so far, you don't seem to shy away from visiting websites written in Japanese.
The following is my translation. I think it's better than that of translation software.
# 『【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田◆AZWpeumso.』is a resident of BAR Gikoppoi. # It seems like he's a foreigner. # He loves trance music and Hatsune Miku. # His PC is Windows Me. He gets angry when Windows Me is insulted. # Rumor has it that he's American and lives in Louisiana.
>>295 Most people use may and might interchangeably. I had to look up the following difference on wikipedia: might is the conditional mood of may "If you were nicer, I might invite you to dinner sometime". Here is the link if you want to learn more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_modal_auxiliary_verb It talks about many pairs of these types of verbs: would, will/shall, should, may/might, can/could, must/have to, ought to/had better and so on. signing off for now
In this sentensse there's no subject but we Japanse can uderstand what the subjects are.
バカにする means insult. 怒りだす means gets angry. (怒る means gets angry, too and 怒りだす means starts to get angry. maybe "starts get angry" is unatural English but you know what I mean. I translated 怒り出す as get angry, but precisely it means starts to get angry.)
The subject of バカにする, I think, is anybody who meets Sparky at Bar Gikoppoi. バカにする means insult. The subject of 怒りだす is Sparky.
So all in all, the sentense means "when someone insults Windows Me, he gets angry." I used passive voice though.
>>309 It seems I interpreted the sentence almost the same, except for the meaning of バカにする Since it was the first time I encountered that phrase, I thought of my own interpretation. Thus, in my mind it sound like "do something stupid" or, as I wrote it, "misbehave."
>>304 I see. And thank you for your compliment. >>306 mock at is more true to the nuance than insult. And the nuance of "might be" isn't in the original Japanese.
>>303.>>305 Without looking up each and every word I don't understand, I don't know what the they mean.
>>311 It would be useless looking up the words in >>303, >>305. They're mostly nonsense. This is a poem by Lewis Carrol. It's somewhat famous, and is from the followup book to Alice in Wonderland.
Kanji can be pretty. Making wallpapers of them is something of a hobby of mine. I just spent about an hour making 紅 crimson. http://i37.tinypic.com/x5b43k.jpg What do you guys think? I've done several others too. I suppose if you're actually Japanese, it's kind of mundane to use something like this for your wallpaper. Kind of like me having a wallpaper that's just a stylized word "red." Sort of silly. To me, though, the kanji wallpapers look nice.
>>321 ............................................................................................................................................. 2000 is very hard to crash
>>318 You mean wallpaper of PC display. I thought wallpaper on the wall first. Kanji looks exotic for foreigners. I don't think I'd have kanji on wallpaper. Now I have picture meaning painting, on wall paper. I picked it up from Windows Vista's originally installed. Some people get kanji tatooed although all I saw tatooed are NBA players. I don't think no university studetdents have tatoos on thier skins.
Have you ever tried have your real name written in kanji? I would wirte handle name, like 熟(じゅく)which means mature or ripe.
Hey all, just got back from my USC interview. I think it went really well. I mentioned I did a homestay in Japan and the interviewer got really excited and asked if I was interested in doing a study abroad at Waseda University. We also joked about how hard it is to learn Japanese lol. Oh and once I saw he liked Japan, I took out my collection of Japanese panties and let him take one.
He also said that my schedule would be flexible enough to accommodate numerous amounts of courses in Scientology/Scatology, despite having many required Computer Science courses.
>>325 Wallpaper is the word most often used for the picture on your computer's desktop. Background is common too.
Seeing kanji tattoos is actually pretty common. It's exotic and stylish. Probably most people don't even know for sure what their tattoo means. They just trust the artist, and sometimes they get screwed for it. You get people with "Ugly slut" or somesuch tattooed on them, and their convinced it means "Eternal Love" or something. Of course, not all are like this, but it isn't unheard-of. Anyway, it's certainly not a phenomenon restricted to basketball players. Many people, men and women, get kanji tattoos.
as for my name, it has an r-consonant combination, so it wouldn't translate well. I can find something close, though. When I visited Japan, I was named 渦巻 because my hair was dyed in the pattern of a spiral. Now, my hair is long so I can't do that. It was a lot of fun though.
>>326 You can have the interview in Chicago or you're staying in California now? Which would you choose to go if you pass one of the IVY league university? IVY league sounds more cool to me. I didn't know USC is a good university. Waseda is one of the best private university in Japan. You took along your collection of them! Just taking one of them was enough. But I guess just one panty wasn't enough to cope with your nervousness. You gave a bribe to him. But once he accepted it, your enrollment is ensured. Congratulations!
I know you can handle the numorous amount of courses. Studying them is your dream.
>>326 Here's a gallery of all my kanji wallpapers. http://s448.photobucket.com/albums/qq206/jook7sIb7g/kanji/ I realize I used the wrong half of Peace. 平和 is the Japanese, and I used 平 when the main meaning is carried by 和。 oh well, I didn't know at the time. The rest are all right, as far as I know. probably someone here will tell me I'm a complete failure and I did it all wrong.
>>329 >I used 平 when the main meaning is carried by 和。
Yeah. I've never seen the kanji for Fear. I can't write it and read it. I type おそれ and convert it to kajin and voila 虞. We usually use 恐 or 怖 but 虞 may looks more cool because even average Japanese don't know what it means and mysterious even to Japanese.
>329 As for `将`, you can't mean `general` by the one letter. If you want to mean `general exactly in Japanese` exactly, you put `軍` behind `将` , and then it becomes `将軍` or general.^^
>>329 I find the 平 one really nice actually, it has a peaceful feel to it. GJ 虜 reads とりこ and doesn't neccesarily mean fear but does go with the image behind it, because it's used as a metaphor in a somewhat negative way. I think a literal translation would be"prisoner", "trapped" or something along those lines.
虜 can be used in a positive way. There is a famous French song, the title pf which is あなたのとりこ in Japanese. You can say “彼は彼女の虜だ” when you see a person who is fascinated by a certain girl and cannot think anything other than her.
>>340 I half agree. To her, it may be a positive situation since she's attractive enough to do so but to him, it may not be that positive because he's too preoccupied with her. :(
>>27 I thought it was cute when you called him sparkly. :) You should continue to do so!
>>234 I would add that "miss you" can also mean the kind of miss as in this example: "Hey I came to your house the other day but you weren't home!" "Oh really? I'm so sorry I missed you. I must have been at the store" In this case they missed seeing the person as the timing was off, not emotionally missed. You can also "miss someone's call" in the same way.
I do my kanji name by meaning because it is possible with my name. 結晶... ooor... 水晶 I looked up the second one and it didn't seem quite right, though it was the first version I learned to do my name.. Wow It took a long time to catch up from yesterday... I understood why the person joking about my Orochon essay said jook loves bean sprouts. I thought that was really funny. I think maybe my essay part about the levels was confusing though? I thought the way I described it that number 1 would be the very spiciest ramen at Orochon, not 7. That's how they number them, but maybe I explained wrong. BTW I got an A on my essay :) My sensei commented she also likes to go there. BTW jook is wrong, I don't dislike them for taste, I just find it weird to have something crunchy in my noodles. I try to pick through most of them, (and in Orochon they put a lot in) but i don't mind having one or two in each bite. I gave him the sprouts i didn't eat because he was still hungry.
>>341 Umm, you maybe right. When we say “彼女の虜だな” to him, we may have a slightly cynical intention. When someone calls himself as 虜, the word is used in a positive way, I think.
>>327 >I thought it was cute when you called him sparkly. :) You should continue to do so! lol. You are mischievous! I can't continue to do so, because it's impossible to bear this shame any longer! But, thanks^^;
Gikoppoi is a cyber space where it's said that sparky used to go. What kind of impression do you have about that space ? I think staying there is very unhealthy.
>>328 I did the interview in Chicago near O'Hare International airport. I guess there are enough people in the Chicago area applying to USC to warrant sending four interviewers out here. USC is my first choice and has one of the top engineering programs in the US. However, some of the other schools I'm applying to are overall ranked better (Ivy League), USC still has one of the top computer science/interactive media programs in the country. They have a lot of contacts within the video game industry in California so it'd be easy for me to get summer internships at studios like EA and Blizzard. I picked certain Ivy League schools like Columbia University because they offer liberal arts degrees in computer science, which is my back-up in case I don't get into an awesome program like USC's.
Oh and it's not a bribe, just a friendly exchange of fetishes! >>329 Woah, those are pretty cool. I like the shogun one the best.
Hey guys. I disappeared for a while. As for my fear kanji, it's just what my dictionary gave me. I didn't know the kanji before either. If I had known that there would be something else easier to understand, I would have gone with it. But if the meaning is still there, then I guess I'm ok. >>332 says it's mysterious, so maybe that helps too.
>>337 I'm glad you still get a nice feeling from it. That makes me feel better.
>>348 I'm glad you like them. I've been very pleased with most of the wallpapers. Actually, Shogun is my current wallpaper on one of my computers.
>>350 Uh oh, Sparky. Don't lose your Claim to Fame! If you don't have Windows ME installed, how can you tell us how great it is? Good luck getting it fixed.
>>352 Windows Me is a lot easier to fix than NT. also Windows me is portable is what i learned
if you move or rename your Program files Windows Me will still run flawlessly! and all the settings are in the C:\windows\ directory i can move toe original to a subdirectory and copy the original into the c:\ so i have a copied Windows Me and guess what? IT STILL RUNS FLAWLESSLY!
虞 can convey the fear and mystery feeling more than other words meaning fear, such as 怖,恐, because these words are used quite often in our daily lives. (they are terrible enough, though) It may match the atmosphere of a old temple or shrine.
>>348 I'm starting to think maybe I should purchase some used panties to increase my intelligence too, because I see that sniffing panties is peculiar to highly intellectual people. Anyway, glad to hear that your interview went well.
>>365-366 Ah, yes. That's the time on the west coast. I live in California. The US is big, the time varies depending on where you are. Japan is relatively Tiny. Even California is bigger.
I'm Japanese and live in japan, so I'm watcting Meets boy world, Greg and Darma now. I love comedy very much, my favorit is Frazar and seinfeld. What's your favorit comedy?
>>369 at 15:00 in Japan, the first part of America entered Sunday. Mainland America covers 4 time zones. So, if my middle-of-the-night sleepy brain can do math correctly, Japan and America share the same day of the week for 12 hours a day.
>>368 "Even California is bigger"? That makes it sound like California is small. California is the third largest state, though. Its area is 423,971 sq. km. Japan is 377,873 sq. km. The closest states in area are Montana (380,837 sq. km.) and New Mexico (314,914 sq. km.). ...at least, that's what Wikipedia says.
>>371 No, either "in both countries" or "in the two countries" is correct. "in both the two countries" is reasonable. "In the both countries" is not correct.
>>372 I used to watch Boy Meets World long ago, when it was still new. まぁ なつかしい〜 These days, I don't watch a lot of TV. Mostly I stay at my computer. Sometimes I watch TV. I like American Dad, Robot Chicken, and Burn Notice. That last one is more liek a drama though. I download anime to watch though. Gintama, Zetsubou sensei, One Piece...
>>374 Sorry, when I said "everywhere" i didn't mean it literally. Not the whole world. That was within the context of the subject of America. So, "Everywhere" meant "All of the US" ...except Alaska and Hawaii.
>>379 They're getting money. I don't think the government should be saving companies though. We're supposed to have a free market. If a business is going to die, let it die. It's not the government's place to decide whether a private corporation will survive or not.
>>379 well its not up to obama its up to congress. plus even if it was up to obama, he is not the person in power. bush is in power. congress rejected a bill for a bailout and the big three are going chapter 11
>>380 No holiday here. What are you celebrating? The closest thing to a Holiday is the full moon last night. In a week is the Winter solstice. That's a holiday to some people.
If BIG 3 is in any more trouble like applying for chapter 11, the world economy will get more sluggish. That surely put the world into great shock. America is asked to take action to powerfully boost the world economy, not getting drawn into blocking imports, Or else, we should set our minds to prepare for more trouble, worst, war.
>>383 Oh.. Sorry. Umm, not holiday, but... day off ? In other words, today is a day when people don't have to go to the offce, and students also don't have to go to school. Sunday isn't such a day in the U.S. ?
>>385 I understand. We don't use Holiday that way in America. They have a similar meaning in Europe - to go "on holiday" is take a vacation. I don't know if they also say it the way you were. In America, it's a "day off" I understand why you said it the way you did though. 休み has several possible uses.
Do you guys remember I mentioned we have national English learning radio programs? Do you have interest in what they're like? The programs are originally broadcast on the radio and after that they are uploaded on the officical Internet sites for a week. Let us hear your oinions about the lessons - like the English used in the program is funny, we don't usually speak like that! and what not.
I think that's what they're supposed to do, overacting in an animated way that helps the audience understand the context of conversation. Characters in most TV dramas, movies and animes are all exaggerated to the extent that they are unrealistic, if you look at them that way.
it would seem that each morning just before 05:00 (am) that i cant load 2ch. this stays this way for about 2 hours. well i best be getting to bed. good night
>>348 Thank you for the explanation. So you didn't have to go all the way to California. Good. But If you had had to, you could have had a homestay there.
Hello all! I haven't been on in two days because I had to get ready for New York, which is where I am now! Does anyone have snow yet? New York has had snow since late October, maybe I'll post a picture of our snowy house later today.
>>400 I live in syracuse, NY. Very close to the great lakes, if you search on google earth. This means that we get an insane amount of snow, because the snow can be a result of wind over the lakes traveling our way. And yes, I've heard of the thousand islands, but I've never been there. And if anyone is wondering, upstate New York is NOTHING like New York City/Manhattan, it's pretty quiet... I live in the suburbs. Also, how much snow do you end up getting in Japan? I figure every part of Japan gets snow at least once a year, but I'm curious to know... as I'd never live (by choice) in a place without snow.
>>402 We don't get much snow in the east either, maybe a couple times in a year, though a lot in the north. So your best bet would be Hokkaido, the northern island if you ever wanted to live in Japan. And I heard there are no roaches there, which is quite a bonus. I'm falling asleep, talk to you later, Captain.
>>329 平和 is actually japanese. 平和 seems to be rarely used in China. If it exists, it is not as frequent used as in Japanese and the meaning must be a little different. 和平 is a traditonal word. 和平's literal translation is pacification (with military power). So 和平 says that peace is the thing to get by power and be maintained by power. 和平 instill people that 平和peace is the thing to protect the nation from outer force. 平和 doesn't have deep meaning. 平和 just states the conditoion of peace. 和平 is more essential and pratical word. We don't use 和平 except for circumstance under war. We rarely encounter 和平 in real life.
The UK has often been accused of becoming a 'Big Brother' state, and has been given that term even in national newspapers, tabloids and television reports... so over here, at least, it's pretty commonly used.
As jook says, CCTV is extremely widespread here and you'll often see at least three cameras at most intersections or open spaces (usually where pubs might be), depending on where you are. In the town where I went to university, they have been trialling CCTV systems with both a camera and a speaker system, so operators can actively warn or shout at people...
I'm bored this morning and have been just laying around the house. I looked at 4chan and found a thread about some guy who is teaching in Japan... this is what he said:
"Im living the dream in Japan....Rather I live out in some puissant villiage where nobody seems to want to associate with gaijin. Im forced to give mind numbing lessons to high school kids who dont give a shit and work with teachers who resent me being here. Its now my weekend but I am drinking sake by myself in my apartment listening to Electric President and browsing image boards. Fuck you, I should never have listened to you, it sucks ass here. pic related, its my shitty room."
The general consensus of the responses were that it was the OP's fault for being unsociable, alienating all of his "would-be friends," and not trying to understand the culture.
What do any Japanese posters make of this? I've heard so many mixed responses about one's time when they went to Japan. Some say it is great and the people are polite (outside of Tokyo) especially if you can speak Japanese. Others say it is terrible and they have nothing to do.
>>402 I searched Syracuse on google earth. Yeah, It's near the lake. The right one. I wonder when the photo was shot. It hasn't snowed in the image but they don't use photos in which you can't see towns in detail because of snow. I challege you to a snow ball fight.
Funny thing is that when I zoomed in a house in Chicago on google earth, I spotted a man sniffing a panty. I think I'll report it to Google. It's an invasion of privacy.
To all those in a jail, those persecuted for the cause-Your actions were not in vain, soon the light of freedom will shine again! And if you’ve lost your home, your job or someone that you love-Stand your ground there’s a place for you in the Kingdom that’s to come!
>>403 I'm sorry to hear it, but rest assured he isn't the only one who is feeling the pain of our economy. >>410 Google Earth doesn't update too often, but that new 3d zoom is certainly an invasion of privacy, I'm not sure how they have gotten away with it all this time.
I got an off-topic idea: I'm going to take a picture of my house, my bedroom, and a bit of the snow. I want to compare your Japanese houses to my American suburb house! Lets see what's similar and what's not. I'll post some pictures later today when I'm not busy (mom's friend is over, showing us pictures of her time in China).
>>409 OP means an opening poster? It took some time to know what it means. I mostly agree with the opinions of 4channelers. It's his attitude and character. But I can empathizes with him because I'm not good at socializing, too.
He's an ALT?(assistant language teacher on JET program) I don't know where he lives now but some of them have to live in rural areas. So maybe some of ALT gets disappointed, especially if they are rose colored life in vision in Japan. I think he should make firiends with other ALTs living nearby and ask some advice and ask what tips are to make the most advantage of life in Japan.
There are lots of blogs of ALTs and some groups (community) in SNS are for ALTs in Japan. Some ALTs upload videos in which their life in japan is shown. Maybe it's better for him to contact with other ALTs, instead of posting on 4ch. He may not adopt to people and life in Japan but at least he earns a 3-3.5 milliom yen a year. That's not a bad salary for people in early twenties.
If you're thinking of applying for JET program. It's better to conatact to former or current ALTS. Ideal ALTs are, if you ask me, someone who's interested in Japan, Japanese language and people in real sense, has passion about teaching English, always thinkning about the most effecftive way for students to improve Students English. But as for the last one, as the 4chan poster says, some low level school academically are full of lazy students and give a damn learning English. So it may be difficult to keep his passion about his mission.
And sorry for your uncle. In Japan, the influence of the bad economy is spreading. Job cuts and salary cuts and all that. It's said economy hasn't hit the bottom yet. Maybe it's just chapter 1. Oh my.
>>405 Interesting to know... If I ever visit Japan I'll be sure to detour there, to see if it would be a nice place to live! I'm not very tied to my home, so I wouldn't mind living in Japan so long as I enjoy the country and would have a job that I liked. Sleep well, see you later.
Why the sever of 2ch was down came to light. Large numbers of Korean people attaked 2ch. It's estimated that Korean people got mad because Mao Asada, a Japanese figure skater, won the championship of the figure skate competition. Hmmm, it's that the famous Hwabyung mental desease?
sparky, you need to format the hdd before you install an OS. if you do not you will get brokenness out of it. boot off your xp cd, format the hdd ntfs, then install xp. note that formating will delete all information.
>>412 I imagine houses in suburbs are big. Looking forward to seeing photos.
By the way, did you guys already send Christams cards? Do you send them to friends you often see almost every day? Sending Christmas card is obsolete and you send Christmas e-mail instead? What's the situation like?
>>423 Metaphor. Actually snow piles up to house's top. They have to dig up snow around the house. The scenery of The northern west of Japan looks buried under snow. Children commute through the path with walls of snow.
I probably made a mistake, influenced by the words like north western university. What's the difference between northern west and north western? Northern west is noun and north western is adjective? Is northern west university is permissible?
>>435 sorry, i am here on and off. if you are talking how we say locations in the usa, we say north western usa, south eastern usa, etc. we will say dig out of the snow: "there was so much snow around my house that i had to dig my way out"
>>433 I don't think "northern west university" is correct. The word is actually "northwest"--one word, a combination of "north" and "west". So, it's probably "northwestern university".
>>437 Hearth is typical american thing. We rarely see herth in houses. It's probably luxurious thing in Japan. I heard hearth was the tool to make the love scene romantic in the movies and tv dramas. Size of your house seems to be not bigger than that of japanese typical houses. Smaller than I expected. The picture of backyard is blurring but maybe bigger than averaga japanese ones. By the way I'm not the one who has been chatting with you.
>>442 >"I heard hearth was the tool to make the love scene romantic in the movies and tv dramas." That's a funny way to look at it, and it's true that it is used in some rommance scences. It's not that we need a fireplace (we don't call it a hearth here), I mean, we have heating through gas and electical appliances... but fireplaces are just something nice to be around with your family... it is extra warm and peaceful.
As for the size: Our house average for where we live, the size you would expect an American suburb house to be. They can be much larger, but where we live this is the middle class (40-80k dollars a year) area of the city.
As for the yard: Our yard is also average for where we live, but some places can have almost no yard, or if they are in a more rural part of America people can have many many acres of land (we only have a quarter acre I believe)
>>437 As >>442 said, the size of your house is samller than I imagined, too. I thought the fireplace is the biggest differences. We don't have it in our house. Santa in Japan come in by opening one of the windows.
On the left side of the photo of the living room, is it a wig?
By the way I'm neither >>442 nor the northewestern guy.
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>>445 My mom's reaction to your mention of the wig was "It's a what?!" Almost nobody uses wigs in America. That's her natural hair, she just had dyed it reddish brown recently.
But as I mentioned in a previous post, houses can be much larger in America, this is just the average size of houses in the area that I'm in.
hearths are just put in american homes out of building traditions. there was once a time that fireplaces were used to heat a home and cook food. but now they just put them in homes for the sake of it being a tradition.
>>447 And the bed and desk. That type of the desk and bed is to save spaces and suits for a Japanese house. Becasuse a desk is under the bed and looks like using space effectively.
LOL I thought it's a wig placed on something. But the "someting" is actually her body. She's looking at the monitor of the CD. Now I see that. Maybe that's because I am awake all night.
Say hello to your mom and say that your son is always wasting his time in 4chan and 2ch.
>>448 Not only that, but not all homes have fireplaces. I'd say only about 70% of homes in my state do, but down in florida where it is extra warm, I bet nobody has fireplaces. So mostly, people buy a house with a fireplace as a benefit, not as a necessity.
>>448 same with a living room. at one time it was improper to bring guests in to the main portion of a home, so a special room was made for this, this it was also used for dead people. its just a tradition to have these places now
The number increasing on the left bottom of the page shows total photos of Photobacket? It's up to the minute number? If so, WOW, Someone somewhere on earth now even at this moment is adding new photos.....
>>460 Well, I figure it would be pretty obnoxious to put a image that counts the uploads of images to their server. Anything's possible, but I really don't think they would go to all that trouble when they could just fake it.
Japanese houses are usually not furnished with hearth and chimney. In showing district, irori(open hearth?) is replaced for hearth. We can only see them in old fashioned houses in the cold rural area.
>>474 Are there any specific benefits if you have an account on photobacket? In case of youtube, even if you don't upload videos, you can comment on videos as far as you have an account.
>>446 I'm now serching for information about how people are banned from posting in 2ch. I've already found out there's a board specifically set up for reporting trolls. I'll collect your previous/current/future posts like this one to report.
>>477 Sparky never talks about porn stuff here so he's not the type mention in the article.
>>478 I know what you mean. Sometimes his posts are annoying.
So sparky, this is just my opinion but take a listen to it. This is a thread for chatting in English so you can chat whatever you want. You can chat your PC, Windows Me, or whatever. But this isn't "talking to yourself" isn't chatting. If you want one way conversation, it might be better to start your own blog or something about your PC or server. In yuor blog, you can write whatever you want. You are the boss there.
Or else, you can set your own rule in which you can post as many as ten posts about your PC here in this thread. This is just my opinion.
Gorge.W.Bush has the talent of boxing. If the showes had hit the face of Bush critically, the honor of America would have been seriously degraded. a But firestar might have pleased with it because Bush is responsible for the corrent economic turmoil. (I'm not sure know who should really be responsible for it.)
>>497 Bush is not responsible. there are many many factors spread through out the past several decades which allowed this to happen. he is simply but a part of a larger whole.
>>421 Kim got unreasonable advantages over asada, still loseing to asada. Media didn't report the fraud at all. Media is preoccupied with asada's win and take this chance to hide an inconvinent thing. I think the fraud matters more than asada's win. Media would have hardly reported the fraud even if asada had lost. I said f5 attack was the korean invention. When something doesn't feel good and right for koreans, it will become Japanese (anthing's) fault.
>>500 agreed. Thinking about the acting period of Greespan, it is clear. Greenspan was once called Maestro. His reputation faild. Greespan was just the same as former CEO of financial institutions who jumped overboard before ship sunk.
I remember the arrival of the time of Captain and firestar. It is sure that you came here at the same time. I had thought that you were known to each other before coming here.
BTW, I grasp the character of linger and firestar less than other native speakers who has own handle name.
The name of Captain Spicard makes me associate with a general of SF movie, because I see a person who has a similar name often in that kind of American movies.
>>510 Ummm, I understand it. 【note】Firestar and Captain Spicard was in the same thread of 4ch, but firestar didn't use habdlename, so Captain Spicard couldn't recognize him.【memo】
>>512 Oh! It is invaluable information because I have a several question abour Star trek. @Does the TV program broadcast now ? ADo you know that Stephen William Hawking, who is the one of the most famous theoretical physicists, has appeared on it?
Star Trek inspired you to name yourself as Captain Spicard ?
>>516 Thanks. I'm being surprised to see your name is very similar to the character of the Star Trek. It may be proved that my assumption was correct. Ok, thanks agian.
>>520 Perhaps because you talk to yourself too much (like right now) Nobody likes this, but everyone would be okay with you if you didn't talk to yourself so much. This isn't a blog... you should actually talk to us rather than just talking about yourself to yourself. And I don't want to hear you say that you want to kill yourself, because thats just more of talking to yourself.
>>520 It's not hard to stop posting the same comments. All you have to do is just to post one comment every topics. Over 9000 people ? How did you know that?
>>526 You had better reduce the amount of time to browse the internets because you are to young to devote yourself to the cyber space. Avarage students in Japan are struggling to study to enter university. When you are tired of your real life, then come here and talk to us.
>>522 hells yea, that game is awesome. I've been playing with my friends a good amount.
Sorry I haven't been posting much but I've been really busy. Today I had to scramble to get all my homework done so I could go to a concert. I didn't exactly get all my homework done, but it was totally worth it because some of the band members signed my t-shirt. In Japan, are concerts really intimate (in the sense the audience is jam packed together)? I only ask because I know in general Japanese are less "touchy feely".
>>532 If you go to the place called `live house` in Japan, you are packed together and as a result, your skin is supposed to touch others, regardless of their gender. (This is what I heard from acquaintances)
We hardly hug each other and I have thought it quite natural. In the U.S., the situation differs from the one in Japan ?
>>535 Well at least for the concerts I've been to it's always been jam packed. In my opinion it's more fun that way (and having girls around in these cases is a definite bonus, is that vain of me to say?). However, the bands I like attract a younger demographic (aka hipsters), so I'd be surprised if an older demographic would act similarly.
>>522 I played through the four movies and quit... It was fun the first time around, but really, even if the zombies come randomly... it is all the same shit, isn't it? I tried the versus for a bit, that was OK, but it got stale quickly. Some people think the versus is just amazing, though.
The only game I've really been playing for like.. the past year is Medieval II: Total War. It is just warcraft / statecraft strategy game set in the middle ages.
>>547 The tempo of their music is slower than I thought. It didn't sound me like a head-banging type of band. Did you spot the band on myspace or you had heard of them befor?
You're talking about a game you plat with PC? Doesn't playing a game with PC require Good graphic card performance? You have installed good one for your PC for gaming?
Haha, I'm probably around the same age as you, but I have to say you are mature for your age... I don't know many people who would have responded so passively. I liked the music, but I couldn't find any trance. Was that supposed to be trance?
"Beautiful Things" is just fuckin brilliant. There are a number of remixes of that song which are even better, but I can't find them on the internet. I'm definitely sure that that song is trance.
I'm not from this world. I'm from somewhere down below. I'm from somewhere sulfur burns with a blue flame, where you will go after you breathe the last breath on earth.
Sparky! Pay attention in class so you don't end up in some third rate university! If you think the English speaking internet is bad, just wait till you see those people.
What do you learn in high school and junior high school about PC in America, UK or other countires except Japan? You learn how to use Word and excell, maybe Power Point, too, or other stuff? You even learn photoshop? Net literacy and all that?
I have a pc, but I can't make most of it. Maybe, I know about less than 3 percent of the functions and systems. I don't even know what a type of pc this is. The IT industries are amazingly deveroping now, though.
Today, the tv problem about the atomic bomb in Hiroshima was broadcasted. One of the scientists who were responsible for developing atomic bombs visited Hiroshima, where he interviewed two victims. They argued with each other through an interpreter but couldn't reach matual understanding, as was assumed. (report)
>>626 I don't think it's the matter of how fast you can teke notes. I'm asking about rules of your school. If students who think they can take notes faster on PC want to bring their PC to school, your school's teachers allow them to do that?
>>549 >>552 Yea I didn't mean to imply CSS was trance, although some of their songs are kinda trance/techno vibe-ish. I dunno, maybe I just like "indie" (wtf is that even?) music. This is a song from another band I saw recently (best live concert ever): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHFUXH4PP5c
I haven't discovered any bands on myspace, my friends usually recommend new bands for me. Oh and those are some pretty sweet songs Tennessean.
>>640 Oh, it's Of Montreal! They're pretty cool :3 I've recently been in Los Campesinos! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc4GethJnBg I kind of lean towards "indie" type stuff too. It's not really a genre, but there's no real way to describe it~
Sapper proposed a design inspired by the Shōkadō bentō, a traditional black-lacquered Japanese lunch box.[6]
The fold-out butterfly keyboard, which appeared in the ThinkPad 701 series, is widely considered a design masterpiece and is on display at the Museum of Modern Art in New York. i love the Thinkpad~!
>>642 I checked out a bunch more of Los Campesinos' songs after I saw your youtube link. I'm really digging them, thanks for the recommendation.
Hey y'all check it out, more douchebags giving gaijin a bad name: http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=7820 I think the worst is the one guy basically mocking everyone with his terrible Japanese (which he obviously knows is terrible).
Oh, I'll probably start working on my 文化祭 presentation later tonight.
Oh wow, if anyone can provide me with some more information about Japanese Cultural Festival it'd be much appreciated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Cultural_Festival is the most specific info I can find besides some blogs posts (which don't have anything I don't know already).
>>650 I visited tsukiji market when I was in Japan. Unfortunately, my group got off to a late start, so we got there after most of the action had finished. If I saw people acting like this when I was around, I think their bad behavior would reflect on me. I'd deck him, I think. And drag him away.
>>665 Japan seems to be proud of their many fold festivals. They are seasonal, and sometimes even local. When I was there, I was in Fukuoka just in time to miss the yamakasa festival. People build huge, decorative floats, and carry them in a sort of parade, I guess. They even race with them. I have some pictures of some, even under construction - the festival was the week after I came home, so I didn't get to see it. I was able to see some of the prep work in a couple places though.
>>665 Sometimes, a private university invites famous singers when Cultural Festival being held, and in the rare case, famous a singer or talent comes to school as a surprise guest(I don't know this phrase is correct or not) wihout informing students of that.
>>662 It's because when 2ch opened about nine years ago, first of the kind acsii art like the cat, is so called monar created here then. Monar has been used frequently on here. Sometimes people on here are confusing curious onlookers with the cat. Also there were cases in which was called Neomugicha incident, The 2002 Japan animal cruelty case, etc. That's why they intend to be lead to obsession.
night everyone! MIDTERMS ARE SOON! also Giko, Shii-chan, and Boon all appear in a graphical IRC client known as Gikobar (BARギコっぽいONLINE). my intrnets home
>>672 Are you saying that's what the floats are called?
When I said "I'm thinking of the wrong thing" I meant about the festivals. It turns out アメリカ人 was talking about school festivals. I was thinking of matsuri in general.
(>>682) I might say that in an exaggerated way. I very-very slightly believe that ETs exist in area 51, because I often hear UFOs takes off from that!!(I know it's a just rumor.)
>>683 Japanese TV shows often say that UFO are witnessed often in U.S.A or Mexico. It says that a lot of people have seen UFOs especially in Mexico. I know Luisiana locates in south part of the U.S.A, which is near to Mexico. So, I have an question. Have you seen UFOs in your life ?
>>668 Ah, thanks. You don't happen to have a source for that info do you? It's not that I don't believe you, but if my teacher questions it I need a good answer. Also, if anyone knows the history behind bunkasai (i.e. when was it started, etc) it would be very helpful to me.
I don't want to be selfish, but I'll be sleeping/at school when most Japanese start posting here and I was wondering if someone could make sure my questions about bunkasai don't get lost amid the rush of new posts. Thanks again for any help, night yall!
>>687 well yes. if it's flying and it can't be IDed then it's a UFO. but i don't think that there are ETs. most likely what people are seeing are just secret US aircraft. the weapons this nation has are incredible.
i once saw what looked to me like the ISS over the skies of my home. so i went online to
track it. the ISS was over near japan actually. so what i saw was not the ISS. but nothing else up there is large enough and close enough to the edge of space to look like that.
if i had to guess what i saw was a spy-craft flying on the edge of the atmosphere/space. i just hope is was one of ours...
>>681 That would have been so much fun! I wish I could have stayed to see it. I would have run too! But, I had to leave a couple days before the festival started. By the time it was going on, I was back in America.
>>690 >if it's flying and it can't be IDed then it's a UFO. Yeah, it's the definition of a UFO, as you know.
It's interesting if what people thought to be UFOs is actually the U.S. military aircrafts, and I think it's the nost probable.
>i just hope is was one of ours... lol Even if so, it's also the threat to our country...
BTW, my mother strongly believes the exisitence, because according to her, she has seen UFO three times in her life.
> but nothing else up there is large enough and close enough to the edge of space to look like that. I couldn't grasp this sentense well because of my poor English skill. I hope if you explain this easier way.
>>690 >but nothing else up there is large enough and close enough to the edge of space to look like that. That isn't entirely true. Plenty of satellites are visible. You can see them if you watch for a bit on clear nights. Look for lights about as bright as stars that don't flicker or blink, moving across the sky.
有識者による講演会やパネルディスカッション : lectures and panel discussions by people who specialize the subject. 著名人を招いたトークショー : talk show by a famous person 歌手のライブやコンサート : concert by a singer お笑いタレントによるライブ : commedy show by commediens
>>694 i know what a satellite looks like. the ISS looks the exact same, only super bright/large because its huge. what i saw looked and moved just like the ISS. i thought for sure it was the ISS. there are astronomers in my family, we know these things. and since there is nothing that large up other other than the ISS, i can only assume what i saw was at the edge of space. because low and high altitude aircraft do not have that satellite look. and satellites don't have that ISS look. only super high altitude aircraft do, like the SR71 blackbird
>>697 Fair enough. Are you sure othe aircraft would have the surface area to reflect back enough light to look as big? Personally, I've never tried to spot the ISS, so I can't be sure what it looks like exactly to make a comparison. I do know that SR-71s, aside from being black, aren't actually used much.
>>698 ah yes i did not mean to imply it was an sr71. they are no longer used. twas an example. the only way to get that satellite look would be to be near space or in it. and the only way to get that ISS look on a such smaller object would be to be much closer than the ISS. by logic the only assumption that i could make was that what i saw was a super high altitude aircraft. not many people have those.
Anyways, about UFO's...I think if Aliens came to earth, we would all know about it. Because if Aliens came to earth, they'd do so knowing about humans, and probably want to have contact with humans. So they'd mount an entire publicity campaign. With alien technology, Earth governments wouldn't be able to cover up or conceal Alien contact...
I mean, if you were an alien civilization sending ships to Earth, you wouldn't just send 1-2 ships, would you? You'd send an entire fleet.
>>705 You are missing the possibility that though Aliens have already communicated with human beings, we citizens cannot be informed of it. Then, we can't know the existence of them until they start to conquire and colonize the earth... What a terrible thing this is!
>>705 You are missing the possibility that though Aliens have already communicated with human beings, we citizens cannot be informed of it. Then, we can't know the existence of them until they start to conquire and colonize the earth... What a terrible..
I don't believe UFO sincerely, but I have seen a UFO-like stuff which moved momentary across the night sky, though I'm not sure if my brain fanctions were working well at that time.
>>717 Oops. I had not found my post, but I could find the post at last ! By the way, my user name is the combination of the name of two cats, which I keep in my house. I know it's not nig matter well,,
>>723 For your part, you have to put some effort into being considerate to other posters, instead of just throwing in every thought that pops up in your mind. Just recall jook's advice before you post, sparky.
>>689 I'm not 668 but I guess no one knows the history of bunkasai. Other than history, I think Japanese people can tell from their experineces what their bunkasai was like as highschool students but you need source for that? Then the source is 2ch but you can't tell that to your teacher. Anyway, When I was a high school student I remember each class made something. along their theme. What our class did when I was 12th grade is that we made in our class room a haunted house made of cardboard. It was like a maze whose walls were made of the cardboards collected nearby factories. They gave us them free of charge because, the cardboards were supposed to be abondened. Visitors to our class enter from one door and exist out of the other door. In the middle, they enocounter ghosts our class students desguise in. We cover windows with black cloth so that sunrays don't come in.
>>689 In university level, the cultural festival is in large scale. Other than >>668 said, some universities holds Miss *** and Mr. **** university contest. It's something that feminist would be against. http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=KevMneg1da4 This video shows when the Miss Keio was decided. Keio uni is one of the best private univirsitues, Keio and Waseda is good rivalry. I found an interesting video, in 2007 Waseda univeirsity invited Adult porn video actress 及川奈央(Nao Oikawa, the woman in pink http://ib.to/d/av19/91ib1.jpg) to Waseda's culture festival. She's just one of the celebrites invited that year. That's one of the reason you can't resist studying there as an exchange student. But seriously, both high school and university culture festivals are open to anybody. You don't have to be their parents or the students of the school to enjoy those festivals.
This is a video of Mr. Keio contest in 2007. http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=o3K3ToRM0JE Mr. Keio contest started just from 2006. I think Miss Keio started long before.
Japanese universities are mostly located at urban areas and both campuses and school buildings are small and dirty. アメリカ人 will be disillusioned with the fact. Even verginia tech where legendary cho made an historical event is more spacious and cleaner than Tokyo university.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bmfiCQMxx9A&NR=1 They are pretty educated. They are innocent and pure. American educational system is great. We should bring in homeschooling, which can save government budget as well! Merits of homeschooling : diversity and efficiency. Perfect.
>>729 I watched the first video you posted. At 1:33, the host-type girl says "congratulations" to the winner. I was surprised by her pronunciation. She got the L sound really well - that's difficult for most Japanese. I was able to understand most of the winning girl's little speech, too. She spoke a little fast, but didn't say anything difficult. "I'm happy, etc etc" about what you'd expect, I guess
>>695>>727>>729 Wow that's a lot of good information, thanks! I definitely can use that in my presentation(maybe not the nude pic...). I'll probably post more questions in a bit, so watch out =P.
Korean Wave is remarkably popular among girls all over the world. They say they fell in love with Korean guys when they were bitten by the Korean Romance bug. I didn't know why they got so gung ho about Korean guys, because one can't realise what's his attractiveness by himself, but those girls throughout the world pointed out how good-looking, cool and hot, sexy and gentle Korean guys were. That made perfect sense to me. Yes, Korean guys surely look quite handsome in comparison to other people. But what got me moved most was they knew how nice Korean guys were. I was quite happy to know girls all over the world love Korean guys among other people from other nations. Plus, it really came as a surprise to me that white girls are mesmerised with Korean guys. Many white girls say they can't imagine a life without Korean guys on this planet, in the hope of meeting a Mr Korean perfect someday. Don't forget, white girls, there're many perfect korean guys for you. I'd go on a date with you. So until then please enhance your beauty so that you can catch my attention when we meet!! I'm looking forward to that.
You now what? They are supposed to marry Korean girls if they are from Korea. And they have to. They can fooling around with girls from other countries as much as they can. That's why they can take risks without cares when it comes to picking up local girls. That's a huge difference between Korean men and Japanese ones.
ill be gone guys until the weekend. Friday (English speaking internets) Saturday (Eastern internets)
I am about to enter through PC AND RAVER'S HELL!!!! (my dreadful high school) also I am not afraid to go dumpster diving. 2 days of sheer hell (school) 2 hours of detention tomorrow and 3 hours of detention Thursday (English speaking internets) 5 hours total of sheer unfair labor.
(This is something that makes me want to go snap and start a stabbing spree.) (The unfair disciple) I have no freedoms in USA.
If i survive this ill be unstoppable
I am physically strong, but not mentally strong.
If I do make it then my promised future will be fulfilled and ill be in Japan by 2014 or 2016.
>>747 I don't know what you wanted to say. If you want to get married to a girl from abroad, you can. And I don't think Korean guys fool around with girls. Korean guys are sincere and kind to girls. Korean guys treat girls like princess. That doesn't exclude snogging, of course. Yes, girls dream about being treated as princess, and Korean guys make their dream come true. That's why girls all over the world are interested in Korean guys.
文化祭 must have been started as educational, serious event, literally aiming at studying about culture. But its objective is nominal. It can be applied to 修学旅行 too. Syuugakou is japanese words for educational trip.
>>748 You mean the little girls? Then the answer is no, because those girls are too young to know there are nice guys in Korea. Look at it this way, they can get involved with one of their classmates. But it'll be a different story after they are finished with conpulsory education. They will get access to Korean websites dealing with Korean guys and gradually get interested in Korean guys. No doubt about that. I'm sure they will fall in love with a Korean guy when they are aware what cool guys are and where such guys live. It all depends on that.
>>755 Korean is like what?? What's ochiai nobuhiko? Anyway, you seemed to miss the big point here. Many girls around the world love Korean guys because they know Korean guys is nice and gentle. There's nothing more I can't say than being nice to girls is the key.
>>759 Do you have any idea how many universities and colleges in America offer Korean class and Korean studies? Check out the figures. That tells you a lot.
>>760 Hmm, that's hard to understand. Is there something to do with anime? What's that supposed to mean? I thought we were talking about Korean guys and how many chances there are those girls will be in relationship with a Korean guy.
>>762 So you don't want to admit how very popular Korean guys are among girls all over the world? Don't try to bend the truth that's been proved/established already. Ok?
>>765 Oh yeah? Seems you got me wrong. I was talking about one fact of Korean guys being popular among girls and what conclusion I've reached about why. As I said, Korean guys are lookers and at the same time very nice to girls. And I wasn't bragging about it. Korean guys happen to be so. And tell me what anime has got to do with the topic?
Well, the truth seems bitter to some people on here that many girls say Korean guys are adorable and cool. I saw those kinds of posts a million times on youtube. Girls posting comments from overseas are quite very hooked on Korean guys.
>>747 Forgot to say this. There are many cute Korean girls actually. For example, Kim Yuna is called a sister for all Korean people. She's super cute, I admit. She was supposed to get the first prize the other day, but Mao Asada extorted her fame because of Japan money. Besides, the fact remains Korean guys are so open-minded as to accept white girls as wifty, of course.
If I travel to Europe, I want to buy delicous cheeses a lot. I can purchase them at a super-market in Japan, but most of them are imported all the way from France, German or other European countries, so they cost a lot. Getting blue cheese cheaply is one of my dreams!
Ok, so here is my (bad) attempt at writing some Japanese for my presentation. The Japanese is my simplified translation of the English. I had to forcibly put some grammar I recently learned into the writing. Oh, and you'll notice that I used spaces and not that much kanji which is because I have to memorize it.
The formatting was really bad when I pasted it into 2ch, so here's the MS Word doc: home.comcast.net/~gigabutt/bunkasai.doc
>>765 I don't think "glagging" is a word, but I think it should be. I hereby use my native-speaker powers to declare that "to glag" is a verb meaning "to babble endlessly and ignore all attempts at others to stop you or make you see reason." Let it be so!
>>791 I really love cheese. California is famous for cheese too. It's one of my favorite things.
>>793 The lack of spaces sometimes make Japanese difficult to read. If you can't tell when one word ends and another starts, how can you get the meaning? I think I've gotten better about it recently, but this used to really be a problem for me. Now, it isn't so much unless there are a ton of kanji involved.
>>793 Damn, I found a few errors on my own. That's what I get for doing this all last minute. Oh well, I hope I don't screw up too much in class tomorrow. >>795 Yea, I don't have that much of a problem with the lack of spaces, just did it in this case to expedite memorization.
>>796 I seem to be lucky with presentations. I'm usually able to produce what I want to say on the spot. So when the rest of my classmates are translating and trying to exactly memorize everything they want to say, I'm writing down half a dozen keywords (probably some both in English and Japanese) and just remembering them. Then, when it's time to present, instead of struggling to remember something exactly the way I struggled to memorize it, I simply come up with the sentences on the spot.
>>802 ごぞんじ seems to be another way of saying to have knowledge of something, but there's no need to be rude about it. Unless my dictionary is looking up the wrong kanji. Anyway, how is this word different from 分かります or しります?
BTW, jook, can I be a grammarnazi? >>798 is written in good Japanese, but I found some grammatical erros that would be better corrected to make more sense.
>>811 line 1: 電車男の話をしってますか、みなさん? line 5: それはいつでしたか。(Don't know why, but そして doesn't fit in this sentence. Maybe we rarely use it before asking more question(s).) line 6: ばんぐみを今(いま)みているので、そんなに前(まえ)じゃないと思う。
The last sentence is a little confusing, but I think you meant something like "I'm watching the program right now, so I guess it's not been long."
Are you able to explain why you say this as そんなに(前/むかし)? Specifically, why you use "そんなに" here. As far as I know, そんな is roughly "That kind of x" so I don't understand putting に with it. I will check for an answer tomorrow. For now, I will go to bed. Thanks for your help.
>>794 I'm not 765, but haha, `native-speaker powers` is cool, jook!
>>798 Your sentenses are good enough, except for the last line. I can grasp what you want to say quite easily. Continue your efforts and expose them to us! It's fun and informative to read Japanese compositions written in foreigners! though it seems that there is an enermy here. Speaking of `densya-otoko`, I have not watched it.
Anyway, good-night. Feel free to write Japanese sentenses.
>>813 While we're at it, what's the difference in using 分かる or 知る? It seems I only sometimes know when to use one or the others. I was taught that 分かる is "understand" and 知る is "know" but it seems like 分かる is just as often used to mean "to know something." It seems like I asked this question before, but I guess I didn't quite understand the answer. Are they somewhat interchangeable? Or is it wrong to use one or the other in certain situations?
>>819 そんなにXない is a set phrase that means "(It's) not very X," "not quite X," "not that X" and the like. じゃない is an informal version of ではない.
Some examples may help:
It's not that difficult. そんなにむずかしくない。 He's not very young. かれはそんなに若く(わかく)ない。
In my opinion, the actual sense lies somewhere between "not very X" and "not that X." Read the following if you want more details. Ignore them if not; it may be confusing.
あまりXない is closer to "not very X" than そんなにXない. Also, そんなにXはない is closer to "not that X." (Note は is used before ない)
So, そんなにむずかしくはない is more like "It's not that difficult" and あまりむずかしくない is very similar to "It's not very difficult." そんなにむずかしくない falls somewhere between the two, I think.
Native Japanese speakers sometimes say そんなにはむずかしくない. (Note は is between そんなに and むずかしい.) This also means "It's not that difficult," but I'd translate it as "It's easier than you think."
Anyway, look in your dictionary or grammar text and double-check it. I'm not a teacher or as gifted as Crystal. I could be totally wrong.
Logically, when you ask something to others who may not know it, you should say ○の話を知っていますか? at the beginning of conversation. (because if you don't know it, you caanot understand it automatically so, you should confirm whether others know it or not in advance)
HOWEVER, we often say ○の話がわかりますか? quite frequently at the beginnig. I think in this case, abbreviation is occuring because we say that kind of thing very often. Maybe (○の話をしたとして)その話がわかりますか? is correct.
Anyway, the way you wrote is correct and good enough to covey whart you want to say.
>>821 わかる often means "to realize," "to get (the meaning)," "to understand," or "to know." 知る often means "to hear of," "to learn of," "to know," or "to understand." Of course, sometimes 知る can be translated as to realize and such.
I think わかる is placing more emphasis on the mental process of "understanding something" while 知る is tend to be used when the actual way to get to know something is in the speaker's mind.
These two somewhat artificial exmaples may help you get the sense:
私はこれがわかる。means "I CAN understand this," i.e., your brain can handle the information properly. 私はこれを知る。 means "I am about to know this," i.e., you're implying you have access to the new knowledge.
I think you can now understand the differences between these natural phrases:
それはわかっている。means "I know it (full well)," and may have the connotation that it is already in your mind or that you mentally understand it so it's not new. それは知っている。 means "I know it (full well)," and carries the sense that you already heard/read that somwehere else before.
That's why you use わかった when you mean "Gotcha." What you actually mean is that what he/she just said is, say, stored properly in your brain. If you say 知った in a similar situation, you'd sound as if you're thinking of the physical process of understanding what he/she just said, i.e., you sound like "I get you because my ears were able to hear your voice."
As another anon said in >>825, わかりますか and 知っていますか can be used when you start a new topic. But they have different connotations:
Xをわかっていますか? means "Can you undertand X?" because わかる emphasizes the mental process of understanding while Xを知っていますか? means "Did you know X?" because 知る is related to the way you get to know the idea.
これを知っていますか? means "Did you know this?" with the connotation that "Have you heard of this?" or "Have you read about this?" If you say これをわかっていますか?, then you may sound like you're saying, "Are you aware of this?" or "Can you understand this?"
>>828 I can agree with you in that 知る means understanding slightly something, but 分かる means undestanding something deeply.
even if you say 皆さん、電車男の話わかりますか? 僕最近はまってるるんですけど・・、 you can say it sounds natural. I think. (皆さん、電車男の話わかってますか? is very strange though.)
・・but when you talk with someone person to person, 電車男の話わかりますか? may sound strange. 知ってますか should be used.
わかる should be used when you ask abstract questions to others. ・ ねえねえ、ギターのことわかる? ・ あのさ、君、数学わかる? ・ 演歌の話わかります?
If you refer to a concrete thing and ask someone whether he knows it even slightly, you should use 知っていますか?. ・ジェロって演歌歌手知ってますか? ・イチローっていう野球選手知ってる? ・電車男知ってる? Umm, I think 電車男 is too shallow to understand deeply.
>>830 >わかる should be used when you ask abstract questions to others. >・ ねえねえ、ギターのことわかる? >・ あのさ、君、数学わかる? >・ 演歌の話わかります?
I don't think 知る and わかる have anything to do with abstractness of information. These are just idiomatic usage of わかる, meaning "Are you familiar with X?" Like I said, わかる is more *mental* than 知る, hence this usage.
Anyway, I could write about わかる vs. 知る ad infinitum, but I don't think it would help improve his Japanese.
I'd say, "Don't try too hard to understand the rules. Listen to and read Japanese instead, and you'll find you already know them."
BTW, sorry for my terrible grammar and a plethora of typos. I don't think twice or take a second look at my post when I'm on 2ch.
2ch or just this board seems to have a glitch that's making it difficult to post at the moment. Not sure if I can make this post, either. Maybe they're going down for routine maintenance.
>>840 Yeah.. vippers are ok as long as they're haivng fun by themselves, but some of them do something stupid like that for no apparent reason and as a result other channellers get involved and have to take all the crap. I'm sure 2ch will block all .kr IPs, which is not very cool either..
>>837 I have to put you right. Korean people got mad when Asada Mao won the figure skate competition the other day and, soon after that, started cyber-attacking 2ch 2days ago (when the English board of 2ch was down as you may know), and then some of Japanese people returned the favor, and then again Korean attacked. I'm just a bystander, but how meaningless it is... Korean people suffer from hwa-byong desease.
>>798 I haven't watched the TV nor movie of 電車男。 But I know what the story is about because I'v read the story about him on the net.
I searched and found out that the first post of 電車男 about his enocounter with the woman was on March 14th, 2004, 9:55pm. His post number was 731. He used 731 as his handle name first but eventually, posters in the thrad began to call him 電車男 and he changed his handle name to 電車男.
>>793 Making your essay sounds perfect will give your teacher an idea that you cheated. So I don't correct it to make it perfect, but some suggestion to make it better.
じょうじ、なつ に 文化祭 が あります。 Change じょうじ、 to ふつう to make the sentence 「ふつう、なつ に 文化祭 が あります。」 みせつけて あげます。should be 「発表します。」show off sure translated as みせつける but not sound good in this contetext. クラブかつど--->クラブかつどう 大学 で 文化祭 は 大きい から 時々 ゆめいな 人達 に 来ます。 ---->大学 の 文化祭 は 大きい から ゆうめいな 人達 が 来ることもあります。
There are more things to be corrected but I'm not sure to what extent I should correct your essay. To make it perfect doesn't work in favor of you. Your teacher doubts you cheated. Hmmmm. Anyway, good luck.
I fixed a lot, but don't take it seriously. The best way to improve your writing skill is to write many compsitions. Ovarall your Japanese is good enogh. I can understand most of the sentenses.
>>823-832 Thanks, I really appreciate your help. I don't mind at all that some of these were long - having more examples just helps me. I think this is still a difficult thing to grasp, so I won't say I completely understand, but I will try. >>830 is good to know.
>>831 is something I was already aware of. Last semester, my Japanese teacher got annoyed with me because I kept writing シラン on vocabulary quizzes...
I'll take >>832's advice too. I think that listening and trying is a good way to get things. You're probably right that if I didn't second-guess myself, it would turn out I already know what to do. In fact, I was going to write 知りますか at first in my bit, but I second-guessed it and wrote 分かる instead. That's not mentioning the usage of xます or xています, which in this situation it seems could have gone either way depending on the connotation I'm going for.
Anyway, I really appreciate you all taking the time to explain this to me.
>>855 if you like essays, I can share one with you. Yesterday, I wrote two pages about the history of Japanese sword making, and gave a presentation on it for the final in my Japanese history/culture class. If anyone is interested, I uploaded my paper here: http://www.box.net/shared/syqjbb8gts It's uploaded exactly as I turned it in, except I deleted my name.
>>861 Good-morning, I was forced to woke up because of my brother's shit alarm clock. Reccuring song made me really irritated--
Yeah, I really appreaciate if you show your essay. I'm interested because I want to examine usages and the ways you native-speakers say and compare to my way of writing. I'm going to check them out.(I read this one, in which there are a lot of things which I didn't know...) Then, how long an interval from one paper to the next paper is there ?
>>853 >>855 Haha, my teacher said the same thing about じょうじ to ふつう. Yea, I didn't want to have perfect Japanese because it'd be obvious I was cheating somehow. But thanks to >>855 for correcting the whole thing (don't worry I already did my presentation w/the mistakes, it's too late to change now). I'm fine with you saving it. The essay I posted is not really accurate though because I added more stuff during the day before class. lol, you should see the paper I printed out, it's covered with notes I made.
Sadly, my presentation didn't go so well. I memorized the whole thing perfectly, but when I stood in front of the class I had to try really hard to remember everything and I stumbled through it =(. I did print out pictures from our Japanese sister school's bunkasai, which I think made my presentation a bit better. But I also forgot to print out a list of all the new vocabulary in my presentation to hand out to the class(my teacher was mad)... Damn, today was terribly stressful and then I botched my Japanese presentation which I usually do well on. I'm just glad winter vacation starts Friday. Sonofabitch, I just remembered I have to make a 年賀状 for homework. Argh! This week needs to end!
>>860 >I think this is still a difficult thing to grasp, so I won't say I completely understand, but I will try. Yes, it's very dificult. (I think the word わかる includes not only understanding deeply but also understanding vaguely in its nuance.) I think the best way to recognize the differences, though this can be applied to other things too, is to compare one with the other and select the more natural way.
>>861 Nice jook, I really enjoyed your essay. I'm a big history buff so if you happen to write any more for your history/culture class please post them.
In some attempt to feel better about myself I'm posting a speech about funding space sciences I made last year in my writing class: http://download164.mediafire.com/ird9frm3y2yg/ymym4imnfml/speech.doc I'd be interested to see if any Japanese can understand it since it's pretty dense.
>>869 Sorry, I didn't mean to be offensive. The writing is just very different then from what is normally posted here. All of you that post here are really great at English, even the Korean spammer.
>>871 Oh. My. God. You're right, I forgot to sniff them!
>>873 Sparky, are you taking a Japanese class? I think sometimes you speak Japanese, and you seem to understand most of Japanese posts in this thread.
I just realized when you say something in Japanese, your Japanese is always perfect. You don't use long sentences or speak formal language, but I don't see any non-nativeness in your Japanese posts...
>>872 >Sorry, I didn't mean to be offensive. Ah, I just wanted to use "'d like a word with you" to plug the phrase into my active vocabulary. I was waiting for someone to say something too general or too simple. Thanks. I guess my usage was correct.
>>875 Did you know silly little rivalry made people land on the moon? They wanted to go there before their adversaries make it. One of huge countries even failed to feed their own people and went bankrupt after that.
>>874 >I think sometimes you speak Japanese, and you seem to understand most of Japanese posts in this thread. i do not know until i use translator
>I just realized when you say something in Japanese, your Japanese is always perfect. Why thank you ^^ i don't "speak it yet" but im still learning and i try to make it perfect ^^
>>867 Just out of curiusity, did you get A for this essay? As you say, the wording is different from that of posts here. But anybody who can keep up with the conversation here can understand it.
Just nitipicking > our insignificance has only raised more questions then we can propose theories for. then--->than
>>887 Actually I wasn't being graded on the essay itself, but the speech. So I was able to get away with errors like the one you found lol. But yea, I got an A on it. Speech writing is remarkably difficult; it makes me realize how talented Obama and his writing staff are. Maybe I'll post my college application essay which was about Japan after I'm done applying. That would be more relevant to 2ch, I think.
I wish I could understand enough Japanese to read any essays you guys wrote =(.
>>888 I need to read your essay 5 times and lool up words I don't know to understand your essay completely. What does the soapbox mean? My dictionary says, it's a box to stand on when you make a speech on the street but In your essay's case, it just means "Your opinion"? So A Soapbox about Space=My opininon about Space?
I'll contribute. This is the "final exam" speech I gave for my class on speech (presentation) and rhetoric this last semester. This isn't the entire manuscript... the speech was something like 11 minutes long. I said many things that were not in the document below, but this is a pretty good outline. The topic is a little complicated so no one knew anything about the topic beforehand and probably would not would bother to research it to prove it either way. Just as planned, this got me an A.
>>888 Yea, speech presentation is just a huge mental game. The same thing happened to me the first few speeches I gave. I knew the stuff in and out before giving it, but once you have to go up your body automatically and uncontrollably gets nervous. That results in you forgetting what to say sometimes. Over the course of giving a number of speeches, I developed some tactics to get over the nervousness. Eventually I got over it and I would barely get nervous at all by just thinking that all I have to do is walk up there, recite my lines with sincerity and earnest... and it will be fucking fantastic.
Anyways, here it is. Please don't bother to argue any of the facts because I bullshitted much of it.
I wrote the speech on paper the way I would say it so quite a bit of informal language is used. In other words, it isn't grammatically perfect, such is the nature of speech making.
>>891 Yup, I used "soapbox" as synonym for a speech. Although a soapbox actually refers to the physical object you stand on, it always is used in the context of making a speech and therefore can be inferred as the speech itself. Also, soapbox usually has the connotation of being a rant, so when I say "A Soapbox about Space" I'm implying that my speech is a rant. Oh, a perfect example would be our Korean friend. He never seems to step down from his soapbox.
>>894 Haha, that's one way of getting an A on a speech. I know I wouldn't be able to refute your ideas. I'm usually fine doing public speaking because I'm confident about my writing. When it comes to speaking in a foreign language however, my whole mojo is thrown into a blender, ingested by a small rodent and then regurgitated back to me. brb, going to sniff some panties.
You cannot refute the fact that Tennessean won the second place in a U.S. national sausage contest. The first-place winner, however, was a Korean weiner.
Back just in time for 千のレス. I probably made that phrase up, but oh well. Anyway, I'm glad if any of you found my paper to be interesting. As I said though, it was for my final exam, so I won't know what I got on it exactly. I'll only find out my final grade for the class. Furthermore, there will be no more assignments for that class, as it has now ended. If I remember, and I'm still hanging around here, and you guys still care, and I have the teacher again next semester for something, perhaps I can find out the grade and let you know.
Those are all pretty unlikely though, except for the last. Professor Takahashi is the head of my school's Japanese department, and I've taken many classes with her. I suppose still hanging around here is possible, too.
>>902 Yeah, he's always up on that soapbox, glagging away...
>>905 The world record holder for eating the most hot dogs used to be a Japanese kid. Wasn't he dethroned a year or two ago? I can't remember by whom. Fairly sure it's not a Korean though.
Oh! I've just remembered something useful I found for English-speaking firefox users like me. (And, I suppose, Japanese-native firefox users too, though they seem to mostly use the 2ch browsers) A Greasemonkey script to skip the ad page when you click a link: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/26472
I'm sorry for making three consecutive posts on my own. I kept remembering other things to comment on a few minutes later. Last week this would have been a much more active time of day, and I there would probably be other people between my posts. What's been going on lately? Things have slowed a bit.
>>908 >What's been going on lately? Things have slowed a bit.
I guess not so many Japanese are posting on this thread, and only a few are very fluent in English. I think it's quite noticeable if one or two fluent users stop posting. I've been busy lately so I couldn't post on this thread much, and the difference is still noticeable even though I'm not a very active poster.
By the way, can I ask Americans and Britons, if there are on this thread now, a question about numbers in English? I heard there are differences about 4 digit numbers between American and British English.
I think 1,000 is read as "one thousand," and probably 1,500 is "fifteen hundred." How about, say, 7,800 or 4,567?? I heard Americans tend to use "X hundred" style for larger 4 digit numbers than Britons. Can you spell out the following numbers? Is there differences among dialects? I appreciate if you let me know any rules about this which might seem to be "irregular" to foreigners.
Some of these I'll say two ways. There are some numbers that I would probably say one way in my head, but I feel people would be confused if I actually said them. So I speak the number differently than if I'm just thinking it.
1,050 In my head, this is "ten fifty" Out loud, it could be either that or "one thousand fifty" or "a thousand and fifty" or any combination of one/a with or without the "and"
1,234 one thousand, two hundred thirty-four. Long and unwieldy. This would be a nuisance to say.
2,500 definitely twenty-five hundred
3,456 three thousand, four hundred fifty six. Again, a nuisance to say.
5,000 many possibilities for an even thousand. "fifty hundred" is not one of them. This be: "five thousand" "5 k" "5 grand" depending on the context. "Five thousand" would probably be most common.
7,890 in my head, "seventy-eight ninety" Out loud, there is a small possibility I'd say that, but probably "seven thousand, eight hundred ninety" to avoid confusion.
9,009 Nine thousand (and) nine. the "and" is optional.
9,090 in my head, "ninety-ninety" out loud, "nine thousand (and) ninety"
9,900 probably "nine thousand, nine hundred." To say "ninenty-nine hundred" sounds strange. I'm not sure if that's because "ninety-nine" is right next to "hundred" when counting, or because it's particularly large, or because it's repeating nines. Probably some combination of those reasons.
9,999 I suppose "nine thousand, nine hundred, ninety nine." sometimes maybe "ninety-nine, ninety-nine."
It's important to note that depending on the context, some of these might be said differently. If you're counting objects - Fish, for example - I'd pretty much use the forms I said that I would use when speaking.
On the other hand, if I'm just giving some numbers that aren't for counting - like in an address, or phone number - I would be much more likely to either say it the way it is in my mind, or to say each number individually. For example, "1,234" would probably be "twelve thirty-four" if it's a street address, and either that or "one two three four" if it's a phone number or random string of numbers.
If you're talking about money, things sometimes change. Even thousands (5,000 10,000 etc) would be much more likely to be referred to as "grand" in this context than any other. I would recommend against using "grand" for anything besides precise thousands of dollars (perhaps other currencies, I don't have experience with how people in other english-speaking countries refer to their money) Thus, "I won thirteen grand at the casino" is much more natural than "my house is thirteen grand square feet." In fact, grand is pretty much a counter used for money. I wouldn't use it in any other context.
Saying "kay" on the other hand is a bit more versatile. k being the abbreviation for kilo, or thousand. You could still say "I won thirteen kay at the casino" We had the "year 2k" or simply "y2k" scare back at the end of the year 1999, but this situation won't come up for another 991 years, so I wouldn't worry about it.
>>914-916 Thank you! These are really helpful posts. I know a few British English learners who pronounce 4,900 as "four thousand nine hundred," and they say it's strange to say forty-nine hundred, which I always do.
9,900 seems a little tricky. I thought it was either ninenty-nine hundred or nine thousand, nine hundred.
I'm now curious if Americans from other states would say them in a different way. Possibly some Californians might say numbers aloud differently?
Personally, I don't care much for most sports. I surf, rock climb, occasionally study some martial art or other. Those are my sports. Basketball, football, soccer, baseball... These don't interest me.
>>918 I'm glad I could be helpful. 9,900 is a bit tricky. I don't think I'd look at you strangely if you said "ninety-nine hundred" but it seems a little off. Maybe it's personal preference. I hadn't thought of regional differences. I wonder if any of the other Americans who come here would be willing to give their input? We seem to have people from all over the place. ベイエリア人, Crystal, and I are form California. Where else are people? Tennessee, Louisiana, Illinois, Massachusetts, Florida. America seems fairly well represented.
If you don't feel it would compromise your anonymity, would some of you 日本人 be willing to tell what areas you're from?
Hey there, I wanted to start reading newspaper written in English and I bought one at kiosk in today's morning. I thought it would cost around 200 yen,but it was 300 yen, I wondered it's too expensive for it,and I noticed that wasn't English one,but Portuguese! Just laugh at me!
Huhh, I enjoyed a lot. During the game, my heart was ached because it was beating a lot. I might become heart desease. GAMBA was beaten down by Man.U, but it was okay. Good game.
Manchester United 5-Ganba Osaka 2 5-2 one side game. Funny thing is the announcer shouted Ganba scored as many as two goals. Yeah, it's great that Ganba scored 2 but They scored 5! There's nothing to shout about scoring 2. There's a big difference in capability in every aspect of succer between Japan's club team champion and The champion of Europion continent.
I just realized Manchester scored 5 points gainst gamba. TV has kept shouting ganma scored 3 points and it was a even fight. Could ganma lead the game for a moment? It's meaning less if ganma socred three poits in a losing game.
From 5-1 to 5-3? There seems to be a bigger difference in than the mere score gap. Ganba caught up with manchster by 1-1 for a while. Then man-u scored 4 points for succession. The game was over at this point.
All you're talking about KOREAN,right? But I can't understand what you wanna say in a point. In this case, does the word 'KOREAN' mean the people living in the peninsula of KOREA? I think some of you mean only south or north but others do both of them(no separation). There are different way of thinking. We should clarfy it.
in succession should have been replaced for "for succession". I'm tired of biased media. Some journalist, especially foreigners like sergio echigo say the incovenient but true stories to Japanese listners. But they couldn't tell the truth of korean fraud. They just applauded korean murderous play in world cup. Only Zico, Stojković and Littbarski could tell the truth. I can't forget Stojkovid 's sad face. He said somethinlg like "World Cup is degraced".
Sergio eghigos are just anti-japan, biased people. The same extreme.
Of course no japanese people on TV had the courage to criticize korean fraud. Korean hrere might say korean squad gave fortune to italian and spanish squads. lol
>>911 Over here, it's really just the numbers divisible by 100 that we would say "XX hundred" for, such as fourteen hundred for 1400, thirty-two hundred for 3200, and so on. However, this excludes numbers divisible by 1000, so we wouldn't really say twenty hundred for 2000, or ninety hundred for 9000. So to answer your question... 1,050 - One thousand fifty 1,234 - One thousand, two hundred and thirty four 2,500 - twenty-five hundred 3,456 - Three thousand, four hundred and fifty-six 4,900 - Forty-nine hundred 5,000 - Five thousand 7,890 - Seven thousand, eight hundred and ninety 9,009 - Nine thousand nine 9,090 - Nine thousand ninety 9,900 - Ninety-nine hundred 9,999 - Nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety-nine
>>919 People over here only really support Manchester United if they want to support a popular team that often wins - these people are known as 'glory supporters'. The same goes with Liverpool, Chelsea, and so on. They'll switch their allegiance to whomever is at the top of the Premier League. Most people, however, tend to support their own local teams, no matter how bad they are. You might be thinking "what if they're actually from Manchester though?" - Manchester have another team: Manchester City. Nobody really cares who supports who, though, unless you're in school or are a hardcore fanatic. I don't really support anyone.
But anyway, good effort from Gamba Osaka against them. They gave a good final push.
>>924 Yes, I tend to stay up late. Last night I ended up working on something else for a bit after I left here. I went to bed right around 3am.
>>926 Something like: 大阪は二ゴールもできました。 I don't have the vocabulary to say "score a goal" but what I used should suffice for my meaning. Anyway, do you suppose he said this out of national pride, or because he expected them to do worse than they actually did? I would think the first one.
>>939 In the situation we have here, "korean spammer" probably means a spammer who is Korean. I suppose that doesn't necessarily mean they actually live in Korea. Maybe the reason this person is able to type well is that he's actually a Korean-American or something? That's something I hadn't thought of before. Anyway, if we are talking about a Korean national, then probably it would be South Korea, because North Korea is communist, and pretty separated from the rest of the world. Don't they have something akin to the Great Firewall of China there?
There is also a possibility that "Korean spammer" could be a spammer talking about Koreans. This would also be true in the context of this board. However, even though it's also true, this meaning doesn't seem as likely.
I didn't watch the game on TV but I think Manchster didn't use their full force after they scored 5. Giving Gamba a few goals didn't change Manchester's victory so they let Gamba score a few more goals.
>Anyway, do you suppose he said this out of national pride, or because he expected them to do worse than they actually did?
I think the announcer said that for Gamba and its enthisiastic fans. But general succer fans here know that Gamba can't beat Manchester so I think general succer fans thought that his comment is empty, meaningless and stupid.
>>921 >Good morning sparky.(I don't know what time is it now there though.) you are correct on that http://4chan.b33r.net go her eto find out what time is it in North Louisiana
>Oh, man, what are you planning to do ? bad thing ? or good thing ? go through hell
and i survived 1 more day through that hell hole it is not as bad as today.
im back ^^ i was a gardener for 2 hours and a Janitor for 1 long hour. i am a shitty Janitor i am a better electrical engineer
the end of my shitty life is comming sooner than expected
My "real life" is going to start at 12/19/2008 12:34
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>>943 Thank you. 9,900 is trickier than I thought. I only asked about 10 numbers out of all 10000 possible numbers, so there seems to be more regional differences. At least, 0 has many ways to say like zero, null, nil, naught...
People over here only really support Manchester United if they want to support a popular team that often wins - these people are known as 'glory supporters'.
It was the same as yomiuri kyojin gun. Kyojin's hometown has been tokyo and kyojin once won both the pennant race and the nihon series for 9 consecutive years. Pepole across the islands supported kyojin, Giants. It had star-players corresponding to babe ruth and joe dimaggio and Nolan Ryan at the same time. Only one selection, kyojin is different point. Soccer france league seems to be getting in the similar position. But I don't know how popular Lyon is across France.
I've been always anti-giants. Anti-giants was called kyojin fan in a way. It's somewhat true. But today I have no interest in kyojin and wish they disappeared from TV. World club soccer and Giants are propagandized by one tv channel, nihon TV.
So because today was my last day of school before winter break, most of my classes were pretty low key. In Japanese we watched a bit of ホーホケキョとなりの山田くん http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206013/ which we all thought was pretty funny. My teacher said the characters were speaking 大阪弁, but how is that different from "regular" Japanese? I mean, in the US there are slight differences, but really the only difference is in accent. Maybe with things like "y'all" and ATMs in Wisconsin being called "tyme machines".
Hi everyone, anyone-- I haven't been around much this week, because I've been horrifically busy. Today I was substitute teaching for a 5th grade class. They were very energetic and social, which is how teachers describe students who talk too much, and don't sit still and do their work. It's difficult with Christmas so near, plus tomorrow they all go home two hours early because of big snow storm that's coming through.
I was reminded today of the old Cheech and Chong routine featuring Sister Mary Elephant. Maybe you remember it: http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=OU34iLemwdY Don't mind the pictures; they're pretty random. **Make sure you turn down the volume when you watch it so you don't hurt your eardrums....
Particle can be different. Verb and noun can be different. The diffrence of accent and pronunciation are almost always noticiable. Everything can be different. The standard of both japanese is the same. So there is no problem in communicating.
>>957 Well, the most outstanding difference between the regular Japanese and 大阪弁 is the accent. 大阪弁 has the characteristic in its accent. Generally, 大阪弁 is considered to be a little bit offensive, and you may be given a impression that 大阪弁 is vulgar, especially when you hear it spoken by young men or women for the first time.
Another difference is that they often say in the end of their talk '〜やねん' '〜やんけ' '〜やさかい' instead of '〜です' '〜じゃないですか' '〜です'. I hope this help explanation help eith your understanding.
Then, I have a question, which I've wanted to ask. How many people in your Japanese class ?
>>958 Hi, 米人. It's been long time since you left here!
'〜です' '〜じゃないですか' '〜です'. ? we don't use it in colloquial communicating expecially in intimate relationship. misleading. It's a polite way. oosakajin use these too in a situation to be polite and formal.
〜やねん' '〜やんけ' '〜やさかい' corresponds to words like なんだよ、じゃない、だからさ, colloquial usages.
>>958 I don't know what you are talking about. Cheech and Chong thing. Maybe a lady who are at a loss not knowing better way to handle energetic and social kids.
>>957 The Japanese language has various dialects pretty much like British English. Each dialect has own unique vocabulary, peculiar conjugations and/or inflections, and accents. Actually many dialects are mutually unintelligible. We all learn the standard Japanese at school, so we can communicate with virtually every educated Japanese person.
大阪弁 is one of the most popular non-standard dialects most of Japanese can understand. (By the way, I was born in Osaka so I can still speak it.) The Osaka dialect is said to be more energetic and emotional than the standard language. The stereo typical 大阪弁 speaker is a fast talker, funny, and direct. You can find many 大阪弁 speakers in Japanese dramas, movies, anime and whatnot. Most of the time the characters have those energetic characteristics.
I'm kind of a reserved nerd, so people often say, "You don't look like an Osaka guy."
>>972 I forgot to mention this, but quiet a few comedians speak 大阪弁 presumably because of its speed and funny image. People think 大阪弁 speakers are good at joking, so comedians pick the dialect, and the stereotype solidifies. It's a vicious circle, if you will. Hmm..., or a virtuous circle? I don't know.
>>971 It's about a substitute teacher who has class management problems. When I was 13 or 14, I thought that comedy routine was hysterical. It's still funny for me, but from a different perspective. Of course, it's an exaggeration--no class is actually that bad (I hope!). My problem is I just don't have the heart to punish the students as severely as I should. Deep down, I prefer energetic and social kids. I think they're interesting.
>>969 Nice job, man >>957 Some people saying 大阪弁 sounds rude. Many words are different from regular Japanese, and I think the most famous word in 大阪弁 is アカン! which means..uhh...it's kinda hard to tranlate it アカン makes the sentence negative. It can be "Stop!" or...
>>964 Ok, I'm >>972 and >>973, but..., hey. What are you talking about?
>Generally, 大阪弁 is considered to be a little bit offensive, >and you may be given a impression that 大阪弁 is vulgar, especially when you hear it spoken by young men or women >for the first time.
A dialect can be offensive, huh? My accent is vulgar? Could my dialect be any more offensive than your post?
>>979 WHY you feel so irritated ? Huh ? WHen someone say something bad even slightly to 大阪人, they start to get angry immediatly. This is ONE OF THE REASON why 大阪人 is hated by the rest of the Japanese. Read my post more carefully, or you will realize I don't hate 大阪, though I don't like young 大阪人. (I'm 20 and also one of the young oosakajinn though.) When it comes to the 大阪弁 from decent 大阪人, It's be okay. There is no problem.
I'm sure that 大阪弁 is considered to be a bit offensive, and I can't understand why you try to deny this fact.
Some Osakajin tend to stick with their dialect just out of pride and refuse to speak Standard Japanese even when it's inappropriate such as in business meetings and official conferences. Better yet, somehow they even try to argue that other speech patterns including Standard Japanese are mere dialects, but their own style is truly authentic and thus there's no need to conform to any other ones. Apart from the validity of their assertion, that sort of emergence of regionalism can describe one of their remarkable chracteristics, and I personally do not hate it.
Woah, a lot of good info there on 大阪弁, thanks! I learned "何ぼ" when I was in Osaka =P. I ran into this hilarious website when I did a quick google search on 大阪弁: www.city.osaka.jp/english/osaka_dialect/index.swf
In the US there isn't anything as distinct as dialects, just accents it seems. >>964 About 8 students including myself are in AP Japanese, and another 17 or so are in Japanese 4. We're all in the same classroom though. AP students are basically required to learn all the material while the level 4 students are only responsible for about 2/3 of the material. This is just for my grade though, there are students taking Japanese in every grade. In total, I'd say there are 120 students in my school taking Japanese.
>>991 Just incredible to hear figures like those. I was thinking everybody started taking Chinese instead of Japanese. Glad to hear that there are lots of survivers.
>>986 Alllllright. Here is a fact; Osaka has the highest crime rate in Japan. >>991 oh yeah, that's the one 大阪弁 that is really useful. Actually if you add 何ぼですか?, then you can use that everywhere in Japan!(little bit informal though.