Hey!!! you NEETs, nerds, YouTube-link spammers, pedophiles, neo-Nazis, Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers, Part-Time-Preachers, Diplomats' spoiled sons, losers who can't remember Kanji characters, Big-boobs fans, Weeaboos from all over the world, learners of Japanese who are too lazy to update their Japanese blogs very often, and cunning linguists. And let's celebrate the comeback of the Internet-addicted housewife.
*keira=robotintokyo (California) A girl who once said that she'd start vlogging. She went to buy a webcam but the nearest shop is on the north pole. She hasn't come back yet. Maybe attacked by a porlar bear or now ended up living in Greenland. She might be robotingreenland now. "robotintokyo" is a part of her blog's URL.
*ベイエリア人(California) A man who claims he leads a reclusive lifestyle. Nice man who answeres to our questions in another thread. Looking at the Golden Gate Bridge eases his mind.
*tennessian(Tennessee) A man who loves Japanese culture and wants to go out with Japanese exchange students in his university. The winner of the 28th Elvis impersonater contest. His favorite music is a house mix of his tunes.
*アメリカ人(Chicago) Man with panty fetish. Claims he'll be admitted to some of the Ivy league universities or USC when in fact he has no guts to apply for Stanford and Calitech. Learning Japanese but not so serious about it. When he gets nervous before an exam, he sniffs his host sister's panty to calm himself down. It's said that lots of bras and panties were gone after he left his host family's house. Cheerful and outgoing.
*crystal(California) ESL teacher wannabe. Kind enough to answer our English questions. Loves Japanese pop culture. A tad more serious than アメリカ人 but not so serious about studying Japanese. She loves Japan and things Japanese but draws a fine line between weeaboos and herself. Thinks it's a good idea to live in Japan but not longer than one year. She believes that being away from her boyfriend for such a long time deteriorates their relationship. Loves to play catch with her mom. Southpaw.
*jook(california) Tech savvy. Nobody knows more about the US cell phone industry than him. He can text message or gives a call even when his cell phone is turned off. Nice enough to answer our English questions here and in another thread. Loves to sleep with his girlfriend behind his parents' eyes. Desperate to shave his girlfriend's pubic hair.
*火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田(Louisiana) A boy who lives only in cyber space. Sometimes it feels like it's more easy to communicate with cats and dogs than him. Some says he's a gifted troll. It's said that his Windows Me PC calculates 10 times faster than IBM's Deep Blue.
*米人(Boston) Red Sox fan. Lived for a year in a rehabilitation facility to cure her Internet addiction. Now she has developed game addiction and every time she sees her kids playing Guirtar Hero, she snatches the controller from them and plays it on her own. She ties them up with ropes and kicks them away into the closet not to be disturbed by them while she enjoys the game. Her quality time is when she reads Boston Globe over coffee on a beautiful Sunday morning.
*Ether (Florida) Has travelled to Japan. Taller than 6 feet and blond. Drives a jaloppy. Puts a photo of two sumo wrestlers he saw during his stay in Japan on the wall. His penis was bitten off by a gigantic aligator while he was taking a nap naked in the backyard. His mom is on the FBI's missing people's list. On the day he saw her last, he saw a huge alligator with its stomach swollen disappearing into a swamp.
Captain Spicard (Born in NY) Guardian of Spiky. He came all the way from 4chan to take him back to his original playground. Doesn't give a fuck about studying Japanese but doesn't mind helping Japanese English learners.
M.C. 72 (???????) Came from 4chan to see how Spiky is doing here. His favorite color is hot pink.
linger (Massachusetts) Born and raised in Massachusetts. Nice enough to answer questions about English. He claims he has a 3.76 college GPA.
*イギリス人(UK) Foreigners come and go but he is the longest term resident here. Diplomat's spoiled sun. He's nice and sincere enough to answer even stupid English questions. He's been lurking since he got a job in web design. Now he's busy with developing a new breed of virus to be sent throughout the world in an attached file on Christmas.
*スウェーデン人(Sweden) He used to frequent this thread but now he doesn't seem to be able to access to 2channel. 2channel has been denying accesses from Sweden or of people with se. IP address. His English proficiency is almost perfect and was nice enough to answer questions of us English learners.
>>8 Was there a man whose handle name is firestar in the previous thread? Maybe I overlooked him.
In アメリカ人's part, I think I should've written, " It's said that lots of bras and panties were gone "when" (not "after") he left his host family's house.
I think there are awkward expressions other than that.
Hi there, sorry to interrupt, but I have a question for native English speakers here. I have a problem about this anime stuff. Please have a listen to this video clip:
I wonder what exactly Kyon (the male charater) says at 5:10 in the clip. To the best of my listening ability, he says like "Am I supposed to be your spokesperson or something?". Or do you think "Am I supposed to be her spokesperson" is correct?
The problem I have here is, I can't tell if the particle used at 5:10 is "your" or "her". Personally, based on the context in which he replies to the girl, it seems to me that "your" would be suitable. What do you think? I'm quite stuck now. I'd appreciate it if you could help me with this. Thanks.
* I got a reply in the previous thread and I'm thankful for that, and just to make myself clearer and more confident, let me ask for more answers.
>>25 I was wrong. It's that you have to have an account to change the page title. I'm not a member of the wiki(=don't have an account) so, it's impossible to change the page title to me.
>>27 Changed it in the the description but you'd have to log in to change the title. I don't have an account for that. Wait until someone with one shows up.
>>26 I heard "Am I supposed to be your spokesperson or something?" If it were her, you would have heard the 'h' a little more and the sound at the end of be wouldn't have blended into the 'er' sound at the end of the word so well. From the context you can also tell. He was asking if he was supposed to be the spokesperson for the girl that was talking to him, because she said that she would come tell him if she had anything else she wanted to say to the new student. As her spokesperson, he would speak for her to someone else. (as the situation discribed) If it had been "her" it would have been a situation where he spoke for the new student.
>>34-35 I'm sorry to cut in. I wonder what the girl says before the guy answers her, I mean this line - That's why I'm **** on you. it sounds like I'm county nine you. But I don't get it that way. Can you help me out, please?
>>38 Ah, that makes sense. Thanks. But why did I hear it as county nine..? >< Just out of curiosity, is her pronunciation normal there? I can't seem to get the hang of listening English. orz
Talking about cheese. I heard that pus*y smells like it. Is it true? I'm vergin so I have no clues. Don't smell your own pus*y to make sure now. I'm just asking how it smells in general.
>>40 Haha, but too many use of orz would make people irritated. So I try to use it effectively. Don't use it too much, would be my advice.
>>41 I see! And an idea came to me. Is the g sound not pronounced as I thought it would be, right? It sounds like "countin' on you" to you? And "n" at the end of "countin" blend together with the o sound of "on"? If that's so, I think I get it!
>>45 It's ture only when she has a certain kind of vaginal diseases. If you are that curious about how it smells, just touch yourself. Then you'll get it.
>>46 I would say the way she pronounces counting is closest to "counteen" >>46 Maybe it has the 'g' but it is hard to hear. I don't think the n sound really blended with the o sound in "on" because I hear the o, and also because you said you heard county nine. I think the vowel sound used in 'on' must be hard for you to hear between two n sounds and that is why you heard the vowel sound in nine.
>>56 I'm a linguistics major at a university, but I want to be an ESL teacher. Linguistics is interesting to me, but not so much I want to be a researcher or anything, lol. I just like to learn about it.
>>57 Wonderful! Phonetics/Phonology would be your favorite I guess. Syntax and semantics are not so bad though. Are you seeking MA in TESOL? I believe that's gonna be a highway to be an ESL instructor.
>>60 Oh I forgot to answer the other part... I am not sure I have a favorite... I just like learning the types of things I never thought about before. A lot of that is probably phonology.
>>61 Are you planning to have some teaching experience? I just hope you get some because without it, it would be hard to get a TAship while you're studying for the MA.
I'm curious, is the bashing of >>1 a particular tradition for this thread, or is it more widespread? Is it common to do this in any thread on 2ch? Or maybe just ones that continue in a series? Are there other, similar traditions in some of the other series threads?
>>64 I did a lot of volunteering back in high school as a tutor, and now in my 4th year of my BA, I have a job tutoring kids after school at the library. Once I finish my BA I plan on being a substitute teacher while I work on my MA.
>>68 Sounds great. You can survive a grad school. Considering what you've been doing, I believe they have good reason to give you a TAship. Usually their first choice of candidates is former Peace Corps volunteers though.
>>68 I like linguistics too! But I've never studied it. I work part time as a substitute teacher in my daughter's elementary school. I'd prefer to work with older kids, but it doesn't fit into her bus schedule. What level do you want to work with? Elementary school students are cuter but they are more needy. You don't have to be so nice to the high school age kids.
>>79 What's the origin of "4" on your face? Does it come from "compy 4"? When you say compy, does it mean a computer? Is it common to say compy instead of computer? And why 4? 4 comes from 4chan?
>>80 compy does mean computer. I've never heard anyone say it out loud, but it isn't uncommon to see it written, especially online. I say it plenty. As for Sparky's 4, he explained it a couple of threads ago, but I don't remember.
Sparky, if you're a high school student, shouldn't you be in class right now?
>>77 I don't want to work with kids. I only want to sub at public schools so I can make money with a flexible schedule while I work on my MA. I like the idea of teaching college cause everyone in a college class is paying to be there and to learn. With children and ESL, you're more likely to get the worst students. The ones who grew up in America, but never bothered to learn how to speak English. They get put in those classes because they test very low in English ability. I would rather work with those students once they get to college and realize they actually do need to learn English. Only they are accountable for their learning at that point. I don't want to teach someone who is utterly uninterested. In elementary or high schools you must teach them anyway, not in college though. I wouldn't mind teaching younger foreign students though, because they usually care and tend to need more help.
>>68 > I have a job tutoring kids after school at the library.
What do you teach them? They are native English speaker, right? Or are you teaching English to students whose mother tongue is spanish or something to think you are from the state where spanish is spoken by immigrants from spanish speaking countries such as mexico?
Or you teach dyslexic childs like Tom Cruse as child how to read?
>>77 What do you teach kids as a substitute teacher?
>>80 2/27/1991 is my birth day 2+2+7+1+9+9+1=31 3+1 = 4 back in 2/27/1995 When i was 4 I mysteriously love 4 I JUST DO! i always loved 4 4 is my personal and identification number
compy is short for IBM format x86 micro-desktop computer lappy is short for IBM format x86 micro-desktop computer
moot is a fag and he should of gone with 2chan.ORG
>>84 I help them with regular school subjects like math etc. I would say I mostly help with math because it is usually the subject kids have problems with that their parents don't know how to teach them. I also help adults to learn computer skills like how to check their email, etc. The area my library is in does not have a very large Hispanic immigrant population, so I don't usually teach English. I have had the chance at least once to help someone with some really basic Japanese though. I have volunteered before at my University just to chat with non-native speakers in English, so that they can practice. At the tutoring center at my school there is a room just for the purpose of non-native speakers getting some practice speaking with native speakers. >>86 In California many students who were born here speak Spanish as a first language. Most eventually pick up English as well and become very fluent in it, but some of them somehow get into high school, writing worse than any of you who post on this thread. They usually can speak and understand English relatively well by then, but their writing is like a 3rd grader and their reading may be poor too. They can be resentful of the fact that they have to learn English and sometimes have a bad attitude because of it. Many of them only put a minimal effort into their studies if any effort at all. If you wonder how they went through the school system, never learning English well enough, this is how.
>>83 I'm truly sorry to tell you this, but when you teach English at an ESL program in college, you will face those who came to America, but never bothered to learn how to speak English. Are you ready for those monster students who communicate with one another in their native language even in a class room context?
>>85 I didn't know there are such things as official 2ch AA charaters. I'm not >>78 by the way. I don't know how and through what prosses the official AA is chosen but I doubt emailing 2ch's administrator works. 2ch's administrator has lot of other things he has to handle.
>>89 I see. Seems like you have various teaching experiences. As for the university students with spanish as their first language, that's one example of diversity in your country. It's mystery why those lazy students managed to enroll in university. University tuition is very expensive and it's mystery why such unmotivated students decided to study in university. Besides, with that attitude, they can't improve their English and it's them who have toruble of handing in papers or tackling assignment.
>>93 Now I understand what you meant. >>94 I'm afraid asking here gets you nowhere, I guess.
>>90 I know I will have those students, but they will be different by the point that they reach me. If they are in college, they will be paying for the class, so they will want to learn for whatever reason, even if they didn't want to learn in the past. That's an important difference to me. Who wants to teach someone with no desire whatsoever to listen? What's the point then? For the students I speak of, it's not even that they don't want to learn, it's also that they don't see any need to, even for the sake of their grades sometimes.
And I wasn't talking about people who came at any point. I was talking about those who were born here. At a classroom I once observed, high school students who had just arrived in America spent up to (but sometimes less than) 2 years in a really low level intensive English learning class and then moved up to the next level, which was filled with many students who had been in America all of their lives.
By the way: The teacher I observed taught both the lowest level Americans, and the new foreigners English. She came to America when she was 16 not knowing ANY English. Now she teaches it. She's still learning a bit, but she is a very good teacher She also likes teaching adults or foreign students the best.
If students are taking my college class and still don't want to learn it isn't my responsibility to make them. With teenagers and younger you also have a responsibility to the parents. In a college class all I can do is remind them that they have something do or tell them that their grades are going to be low. If they act up in class I can mark down their grades for participation. It's all on them to behave.
>>97 Some people just leave teaching English in the ESL program at college. They say it's because it is a thankless job. Less paid, no respect from students. But obviously you're different from them. You're cut out for it. You seem to have what it takes to be an ESL instructor. I believe you will make a huge difference wherever you teach. Aim high. Be all you can be. And full speed ahead! I just cross my fingers and wish you the best of luck. (I'm serious here by the way....)
>>101 I haven't heard from any teachers that dislike teaching ESL in college. I have to say I would prefer to teach lower levels rather than just writing courses. In some ways it is easier but other ways harder. I like the idea of the challenge to get the point across to speakers who don't know enough English to understand most explanations in English. I'll have to reword my explanations or draw things to get the point across perhaps, maybe even try using some of their native language if I know it, but I'll have fun with it.
>>7 Ah... you gave away my plan. Now I'll have to postpone it and send it secretly on New Year's day instead so nobody expects it.
And on the topic of New Year, just how widespread is the belief in the animal zodiac? Will cows suddenly become very popular? A silly question, I know, but there is a point to it. Thanks.
>>104 It's 5:25 a.m. here in Japan. I thought I was going to take a nap when I said see you to you yesterday (by yesterday, I mean yeaserday in the Japanese time zone), but I got up 3 in the morning, hence here I am.
>>105 Hey now, it can still be afternoon, if you wish it to be! ...or not. I had a quite off morning as well, waking up at 5 to study for my last exam, which is now over!
>>107 Well, from 5 to 10, so 5 hours to relearn everything in an attempt to pass. The teacher put some tricky questions on the test, so I don't think I did well, but I'd be glad if I passed. I did all my other tests already, it was the last one. I'm hoping for a 3.0 for my first semester at the University, but I didn't study very much so I'm not sure I will get it. Yet, I still have time to make things better, since it is only my first year.
>>109 People say that I should have, as I'm quite competent with computers... but instead I chose astrophysics. As you said, I did cram, and that probably wasn't the best idea. Next semester is going to be a lot less fun, as I'll have to start studying more.
>>110 I guessed you were studying computer science just because you came from /g/ and you now, you have..., er, geeky hobby like anime like me.
Astrophysics is really interesting discipline, isn't it? Honestly, I didn't find math, which I majored in in University, very interesting. I do think math is kind of beautiful though. That's one of the biggest reason why I changed my major to computer science when I went to grad school.
>Next semester is going to be a lot less fun, as I'll have to start studying more. No worries. You'll be learning more fun stuff, I think. Of course, courses will be harder and exams will get more tough to pass, but I guess they all become more interesting next year because you'll be learning more detailed theories, intereting stroies and stuff.
>>112 I actually enjoy computers more than astronomy, but I'm majoring in it for two reasons 1) More money in it 2) Maybe I've seen too much Sci-Fi, but wouldn't it be something special to contribute to space exploration / increase human understanding of space?
I love computers, but its best to have both short term and long term goals. You know what I mean? I like computers now, but I'll probably live a happy life in astronomy. But of course, all of my money currently goes to building computers yearly, as that is what makes me happy right now.
As for anime, who doesn't enjoy it? People who don't... they aren't really enjoying themselves.
>>116 But then again.. almost everyone changes their major at least once and you're a freshman, so there's still time for you to change. I'd be screwed if I changed now, lol, but I did change a couple times in the past.
>>118 That would be bad for me, as the school I attend is unreasonably expensive. However, changing schools is not out of the question. I could probably save $20,000 a year and move back to new york as well.
Does this mean the US governmnet and other bodies are funding astronomy more? Or does it mean researchers and students need larger equipment such as incredibly huge telescopes in space?
>but wouldn't it be something special to contribute to space exploration / increase human understanding of space?
Yeah. That's facinating stuff. Also, contributing to human understanding is really interesting. I think that's why I went to grad school and ended up being a postdoc in university.
By the way, computer science isn't engeneering. It does ncrease human understanding. Cognitive science and linguistics, for example, are using computer science to understand human mind and the way we understand/acquire/form language, respectively. There are plenty of more examples where you find computer science is playing importatn roles.
>As for anime, who doesn't enjoy it? People who don't... they aren't really enjoying themselves.
>>120 It's not likely that the US is funding much astronomy, but private companies would. Then again, there is always hope that the war will end soon and America will suddenly notice how cool space is... right?
As for computer science, sure it has its other uses.. but I'm not sure I'd be interested in those things. As a matter of fact, most computer science things do not interest me. Computer engineering, on the other hand, does. I'd love to work for Intel, for example.
>>102 Lucky you. You must have been surrounded by excellent instructors.
People I know were different. Some became a programmer. Some became a homemaker. Some became the trophy wife. Some became an attorney of law. Some became a translator. Some became a writer. Some have been stuck in somewhere very far away from America for decades. And so on....
I don't believe you will fall in any of those mentioned in above.
To be one of your students would be fun. You will soon become an expert of playing a culture game like Barnga. Have you ever played it before?
When baby boomer ESL instructors are pensioned off, your days will come. Then there must be a whole bunch of new job openings to fill gaps they made. It would be a easy thing to find your position. Well, I think it's good idea to attend a TESOL convention. The next one will be held in Denver Colorado in March 2009. I bet you can learn a lot from attending a conference like that.
>>121 Florida. I'm not so big on the whole 'family' thing, just got my mother, cats and a ferret. However, I can't wait until I can get home, as Florida is way too warm. I do get a month in New York, but I can't take my whole computer with me so I'll be stuck on a really tiny laptop. Might not be online so much during that time.
>>122 >Then again, there is always hope that the war will end soon and America will suddenly notice how cool space is... right?
Yeah, scpace is super cool. War is stupid and it should end as soon as possible.
>I'd love to work for Intel, for example.
Oh, I just wrote a paper on some new tech thingy invented by intel. I gave a math model to it and solved some tough questions people had to resort to a wild guess.
>>125 I'm always happy with my macbook. It doesn't have enough power for sims I do for my reasech though.
I just realized I had made too many typos in my posts. Usually I don't take a second look before posting on 2ch, but I guess I should do. Hopefully it fixes terrible grammar errors too.
>>128 Lol'd. But you have to restrain yourself, unless you want to come back to /g/ with me, RIGHT?! And yes, 'compys' are superior to people, think about it. ...unless you meant compys>lappys, in which case I may have said something that I shouldn't have. >>127 >War is stupid and it should end as soon as possible. It's why I voted Obama. I like neither Obama nor Mccain, but I just felt war money could be better spent on say... NASA.
>I'm always happy with my macbook. Lucky you, I have an Eee 900 9" screen notebook running linux. It's great for taking places on the go... but I never really planned for it to be my sole computer for a month straight.
Speaking of computers, I almost had a heart attack over my desktop. Our dorms power got cut for a second, and when it went back on my desktop would not start. Do you know how it would feel to loose a 3000 dollar computer built by yourself, with love? I don't, thankfully... as it works again.
>>129 I don't check over my writing either. I hope I'm not confusing anyone, as I think casual American chats have worse grammar than, say, a Japanese person trying to speak English.
>>103 lol But isn't it the matter of when you'll send email? I'm not an expert in making virus but I'd say it's better to change they way to spread it. How about embedding it in HTML email instead of embedding it in an attachement file? Anyway, good to see you after a long time.
The below is an excerpt from a webpage about how these animals were selected. ---------quote--------------------- <The origin of the twelve signs of the chinese zodiac >
The twelve animals in the cycle derive from a legend about Buddha who invited all the animals to join him for New Year's Day. Only twelve animals went to see Buddha. As a reward he promised to name a year for each one in order of their arrival, these were the rat, ox, tiger, hare, dragon, snake, horse, sheep, monkey, cock, dog and boar.
Actually the ox would have been the first to arrive but the rat sat on his back and jumped off just before they arrived and therefore was first. This also explains why e.g. the dragon appears only in the fifth place. Another legend has it that Buddha invited the animals on the day he was to leave the earth and only 12 animals showed up.
The doctrine of the twelve signs of the zodiac emerged during the Han dynasty which makes it more than 2000 years old. The signs of the zodiac are also widespread in China's neighbouring countries. -----------------------unquote-----
>>103 I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly but let me explain. 12 animals are allocated in turn to each year. For example this year(2008) is the year of rat. Next year is the year of cow. The twelve animals are, rat(mouse), ox, tiger, hare, dragon, snake, horse, sheep, monkey, cock, dog and boar. This order never changes.
There's no such a thing that any specific animal year gets popular. But some kids may think they wanted to be born in the year of dragon because dragon is cool.
Sometimes in conversation we talk about what animal's year you were born. Of course if you know someone's age, you can automatically tell in what animal's year he was born. Let's say A was born in the year of ox and B is three years older, then you can tell B was born in the year of dragon.
Every twelve year, your animal year comes. I mean, when you are 0, 12, 24, 36, 48, 60 years of age..... In those years, you are called 年男(としおとこ)/年女(としおんな) "I'll be twenty four next year." "Oh yeah? then next year, you are 年男" It's kind of a matter of congratulation. (Bad English and bad explanation...)
If you are 24 and B is 36 years old, then you often say, "We were born in the same animal year. You are one round (meaning 12 years) older than me."
It's said that if granddad, dad and son were born in the same animal year, it's considered to be a thing to be celebrated.
If my answer isn't enough, ask again. Someone else or I give it another try.
>>132 >It's why I voted Obama. I like neither Obama nor Mccain, but I just felt war money could be better spent on say... NASA.
If I were American, I'd have voted Obama too for the exact same reason. It's not that Obama will "change" the country and we can have "hope," but McCain would be continuing the war longer than democrats. Besides, republicans haven't been doing well in politics lately (I'm looking at you, Mr. Bush).
But I' afraid, if the war ends, the US will spend the money on NIH or something. That's not a bad thing though. I know finding a way to cure cancer is more urgent than understanding space, but...
>Our dorms power got cut for a second, and when it went back on my desktop would not start.
The exact same thing happened to my server in our lab. They cut power without notice and I was away from campus to attend a conference in the UK. I was the admin and I got a ton of emails like I-can't-update-my-webpage and proxy-isn't-working. No one in our lab knew how to reboot linux when you accidentally shut it down before unmountting file systems.
>>134 But we're not fluent like a native English speaker, so if I didn't, my grammar would become horrible beyond words, literally. I don't give a shit about my Japanese when I chat on 2ch, but that's becasue I have an excellent command of the language as I've been using it my entire life.
>>145 I heard somewhere that that kind of music was more popular in Japan than in any other countries, but don't quote me on this. I'm not sure if it's really popular here.
By the way, is my usage of "don't quote me on this" right? Could anyone rephrase it so I can grasp the sense better?
>>117 >"What do you think are the ideals or national character of the USA?"
I'm not sure I understand your question right but......... You are asking how USA should behave? USA has the biggest economy, No.1 GDP in the world and the most powerful military forces in the world, so USA is the most influential in economy and world peace. In terms of economy, it's your country to be blamed of current and upcoming economic slamp. I'm talking about the subprime loan issue. Because of that, world economy is and will be suffer from historic dipression. It's not only the matter of American big three (GM, Ford and Crysler) asking for bailout plan from your government. Japan's stock price has plunged and due to yen's appresiation, export centerd Japan's economy is suffering from huge damage. Toyota announced job cuts of contingent workers and Sony even plans to cut more than 10000 jobs wordwide. Even bule chip companies annouced job cuts. Small and midium sized companies'll suffer from more damge. It's like a body blow and its damages spread slowly but steadly to small companies.
As for national character, USA looks arrogant. With the storgest forces, USA invaded to Iraq under the cause of freedom of people in Iraq. They knew there were not such chemical weapons. I suspect they just wanted to oil there. USA refused to join the frame work of Kyoto Protocol in which countires all over the world are trying to reduce green house. It seems like USA want to prosper economically under the sacrifices of other countires.
It's not that I don't like each and every American people. They are positive and cheerful. Some sniff panties of a host sister but that's OK. Even I would have stealed it from a washing machine. Jk
>>147 You're not Japanese. You're sparky. How does liking music that some people in another country like make you a member of that country? Hey do any of you Japanese like American pop or rock? If you do you are SO American! At least you are with Sparky's reasoning.
Woohoo, my request for Earl Grey tea was used in >>1. I specifically chose that tea because I'm pretty sure "earl" is near impossible for a native Japanese speaker to pronounce lol (prove me wrong). >>118 Hearing all those statistics about the number of college students that change their major is terrifying to me. It creates a lot of uncertainty about my future and I'd like to think that I will stick with my major in computer science and minor in scatology/scientology.
>>148 >Some sniff panties of a host sister but that's OK. Even I would have stealed it from a washing machine. You can't resist temptation man!
>>144 I heard Google Japan hires the best of the best in computer science major students. It must be honored to get a job there. In fact most of the employees in Google Japan graduated from Tokyo university with MA, as far as I know.
And welfare program of Google is the best ranging from work environment to salary. They can do own research working there under 80-20 system where while you have to work on a job in charge on 80% of your working hours, you can spend the rest 20% on your own project.
>>150 Yeah! Panties and bras are the bridge of frendship between Japan and USA. I wonder where I'll homestay in the USA? LA sounds nice. Then again, NY? Just thinking about it makes my day! Peace!!!
>>152 Yup, the usage is perfect. Yea, I wouldn't trust sparky either. Is there a Japanese equivalent? >>153 The Google campus (Googleplex) in California is famous for it's unique work environment and has been profiled many times in the media: http://www.time.com/time/photoessays/2006/inside_google/1.html
>>150 >I'd like to think that I will stick with my major in computer science and minor in scatology/scientology.
LOL
But your parents would be more pround of you if you make scatology/scientology your major. But it's your life after all. They would respect your own decision whatever you choose as your major.
>>136 Ah, but now people will be expecting it in an HTML email... so another method must be used. I think sneezing would be a good way, especially in this cold season.
And thanks for your lengthy explanation on the animal zodiac. It's near enough unknown here, other than some people have a faint idea that it exists. It seemed to play quite a major role during the New Year celebrations when I lived in Singapore, though. Was also wondering if decisions would be influenced at all by these animals, such as would someone buying a diary for 2009 be more inclined to purchase a cow-themed diary than one with, say, a tiger?
I'll try to remember the whole Toshiotoko/Toshionna thing... didn't know anything about that. My turn as a 年男 is almost over now, since I'm a rat. Thanks again.
>>151 In that case, I would say Carnegie (king of Iron?) or Edison. The former was philanthoropist by using the money he eraned If I'm not wrong. Edison is a person of invention and made an every effort even when he was stuck in his research. Helen Keller is a woman of efforts, too. They overcame any difficulties they were faced with.
>>150 >I specifically chose that tea because I'm pretty sure "earl" is near impossible for a native Japanese speaker to pronounce lol (prove me wrong).
I think I can pronounce "feel" and "bird" correctly, so I may be able to pronounce "ear" properly.
Squirrel consists of similar sounds and is more difficult, I think.
Edison stole Tesla's lightbulb. He stole Tesla's alternating current. He stole Cros' phonograph. Edison was a thief who stole the credit of other scientists.
Mmm. /g/ had a geeky thread about relating technology to burgers, http://zip.4chan.org/g/res/2882174.html So I went out and got some. How do you Americans feel about Burger King? How do you Japanese feel about fast food chains?
>>167 Ah. I'm lucky enough to have a crazy metabolism, so that I don't have to watch what I eat. Maybe when I reach my midlife things will go downhill. However, I'm jealous that you have the strength to control what you eat, a healthy lifestyle results in a longer and happier life!
It's awesomely urber-delicious food. Other burgers are super yammy too. Besides, their onion fries are way better than those you can find in an ordinary fast food chains.
Not any good. Pretty Good. If I had more money, I would go to mosburger everytime and buy a rice burger instead of McDonald's 1 dollar burger. Rice Burger is more expensive and takes more time.
>>177 Most likely, but I've never done it. Just don't bother them every week about it. Why do you need this to be done?
>>178 >>179 I'm not so sure if I'd like it or not. I don't know how I'd like Japanese food; however, I'm a very open minded person so I wouldn't mind trying it if I ever visited (one of these years).
I should have went to Mosburger when I was in Japan. Now I want to try it. I have a bad Japanese diet I think because I'm such a picky eater, lol. When I was in Japan because I was on vacation and everything was a new thing to try, I ate sweets way too much. Also ramen. I loooove Hakata ramen. I am pretty sure I gained some weight while I was there.
Hey! Captain Spicard ! You asked a question about `how the foreigners in Japan are thought in Japan?`. I contemplated it yesterdday. Can I announce it?
>>192 there are USD $1 burgers here at McDonalds and other fast food places. But they just announced that they will come with less cheese to make up for the bad economy. the only fast food place that I eat at is subway.
>>157 私は風呂敷化け物、危ないよ。 >>160 Sorry, I don't understand your reply. Maybe I wasn't clear enough with my question? Is there a similar phrase in Japanese meaning "but don't quote me on that"? >>185 I stayed in a 旅館(りょかん) had their traditional Japanese breakfasts and dinners. I remember trying and liking everything--except 納豆 (なっとう). I will quote possibly the most accurate statement I've ever read on the internet: "Natto is fermented in Satan's asshole."
【Basically, Japanese people are interested in foreigners. This is because Japan is a homogeneous nation and we don't see foreingers so many times in our daily lives. (This is the reason why you are stared at in Japan.) Besides that, foreigners who come to Japan are likely to be polite and have good manners, so Japanese people have good impressions on you in general.(as long as you are the `tipical` foreigners)
At the same time, however, foreigners, especially westerners or black people are thought to be dangerous and commit crimes. This makes us (especially adults) cherish some kinds of fear to you. As long as you behave politely, I think most of the Japanese would welcome and enjoy being with you for sure. But, once you do something bad, for example being arrogant, making a fuss with your company in a public area, being impolite or rude etc.., you MUST be hated immediately and cannot avoid being labeled as bad people.
As I mentioned at the first paragraph, we have to admit that we have interests to you. We want to ask questions about foreign cultures and foreign languages, especially English. I think this facts are worth remembering for you, don't you think so?.】
>>186 That might be it. I try to be as little weeaboo as possible. Reason being is that I've never been to Japan, so my expectations may be wrong. It's best not to be a blind worshiper of something, without seeing it for yourself first.
>>195 that was the best comment i ever had on my font ^^ (the font originated in the 1960's, but is is so neo-futuristic!) and just for you saying that you can have that font ^^
>>198 I'd rather live a happy, carefree life that is short than one where I watch what I do. I don't put a high value on life, but rather on happiness. My philosophy isn't the best.
>>199 Sometimes I like to act arrogant, but mostly for the point of a joke, and only to my friends. In fact I should say that I'm not really arrogant, but when it won't get me into trouble it's fun to pretend. My friends know that I'm not really arrogant at all, and think it's funny. I have an uncommon sense of humor in that way.
I'm an extremely polite person, which is partially because I'm so short young looking that nobody considers me threatening or mean.
Anyway, I'm going off topic. Point is, I think I'd fit in, as I'm not blinded by expectations like a tourist, and I'm very polite to those I don't know.
I think that's a good explanation you gave, thanks for pointing things out. I'll have to visit some day.
【Basically, Japanese people are interested in foreigners.
WHAT? ME TOO! This is because Japan is a homogeneous nation and we don't see foreingers so many times in our daily lives. SAME THING HERE A ONLY SEE WHITE PEOPLE!
>>204 Yeah. I needed SOMETHING to upload the picture to. Your server worked quite well for it! >>203 Always found Russian interesting, if completely strange, but all other languages listed there... I'm not surprised that nobody cares.
>>194 >Sorry, I don't understand your reply. Maybe I wasn't clear enough with my question? Is there a similar phrase in Japanese meaning "but don't quote me on that"?
I understood what you meant, but things are not that simple. This may be very difficult to understand, but I think there is no equivalent phrases of "but don't quote me on that."
Of course, I can translate it word-for-word, but it sounds too literal and unnatural. We imply that without explicitly saying it. Sometimes native Japanese speakers say literally "don't quote me," but it is because they need to put a special emphasis on it.
I often hear Americans say, "don't quote me," but you rarely hear that kind of thing in Japanese. We express the sense entirely different way. In fact, a normal translation of "I heard he was in the hospital" already contains the sense of "don't quote me," e.g., "聞いた話なんだけど、彼は入院してるそうです。"
No words like "quote" or "me" in the traslation, but it carries the sense. Contrary, if you say, "彼は入院していると聞きました," this may not contain the sense of "don't quote me." It just mean "I heard he was in the hospital" and probably this is the translation you learn at school.
Perhaps, you may say "don't quote me" has no actuall meaning. It just emphasizes the fact that you're not the one who saw or experience it.
That's why I said there's no equivalent and asked you to rephrase it. If you say the same thing in a different way, I may be able to come up with an equivalent.
>>216 >>218 actually CPU-X is still in alpha so it reads my info wrong. I don't even have LGA775, and i support many more Instructions than whats listed.
>>194 My dad's sister was married to the British, when visited Japan, he also ate a cup of Natto. I hear that he ate it out because not eating it could be impolite, though he HATE it . When I eat Natto, he were away from me. He dislike even the smell of Natto too.
>>223 I'm fun, trust me! Haha. I mean, I seem welcome here at least.
>>224 Interesting setup. I've never used AMD myself, but this is only the second computer I've built. Phenom II might change that, in February. How do you like Chrome? I have about 7 browsers on my computer, so I've played around with it myself.
>>203 Speaking English isn't cool at all... You can find tons of fluent non-native speakers out there. Personally I think it's awesome if you can speak Latin.
By the way, Spanish and Chinese are really useful langauges, but according to the survey, the Japanese don't think they're cool.
Native-English speakers are advantageous in various matter. Why their mother tongue is the international language? I wonder how children in America, Canada or other English speaking countries, feel to know English is used all over the world.
>>233 I have a rather large ego, so I'm not sure I'm the right person to answer this, but I feel great about it. I've thought to myself before "What if I were born somewhere else? I am very lucky to have been born into America, life is very easy for me." However, I think the rest of America takes it for granted - wouldn't this explain why Americans so rarely learn a second language? So though we are lucky, and though I am grateful, I don't think the general public in America notices how lucky they are.
>>233 well the english language belongs to the english. so us people in north america are speaking it because this area was settled by the english empire. just as parts of canada speak french do to being settled by the french empire, and south america being spanish because of the spanish empire.
I just happened to be born in an english speaking area. my parents and grandparents though, they grew up speaking polish.
>>230 Mind you, American. Anyone who goes sightseeing and doesn't even try to learn the local language is an asshole. I'm not saying you're one of them, but I've seen a bunch of such Americans.
>>227 Chrome is FAST as hell. I setted this as the default browser. I strongly recommend Chrome if you just want to browse websites. otherwise, it's not that attractive. There is not much customisable thing. It's just a simple browser. Personally, I really like it. However, there is a serious problem in chrome. Sometimes, the flash player stops working when I watch YouTube or that kind of video website. If it happens, I must close the program and restart it. It's still beta version though. I think google will fix it.
>>236 I really shouldn't be offended by that, because I know how America is. The general public of America are selfish. When they go on vacation, they probably think people should cater to them because they are visiting. It's hard for me to believe that the public of other countries are not like this, but something tells me that I'd be wrong. I hope you don't prejudge American's based on it though, as there are always people like me who would love to learn the language and culture, especially before visiting.
>>234 Your opinion is very-very interesting. I think it's natural for native-speakers to think like that. If I were in the same situation, I must be proud of the fact...
How did you feel to know English is the means of communication all over the the world ?
I built up my computer two months ago. then I choiced E5200 and 9500GT just for playing m2emulator. Other more latest online game is available. I want E4500 and 8600gt. After I just thought a great deal on low-heat-generating for CPU and GPU E5200 has 45nm process on its chip. Also 9500GT has 65nm process on its chip. ttp://www3.uploda.org/uporg1847162.jpg
>>237 my father grew up speaking polish his first few years, and then learned english when he went to school. he does not really remember too much, so he was not able to teach me. he tells me he can understand more than he can speak. so my family gatherings are interesting, because most of what i hear is in polish. we also eat a lot of polish foods during the christmas holiday here due to european traditions passed down in my family. I also have a lot of middle eastern and german in my bloodline.
>>239 I know a lot of Americans are nice and appreciate other languages and cultures. But I can't contain my rage when I have to translate for Americans who have lived in Japan for several years and can't even greet in the local langauge.
Umm,,, functions of my brain doesn't work well... I think this is because I did masturvation right before. It shouldn't be done in the morning. I realized that.
>>240 Think about this: If you were raised as a kid to know that everyone in the world uses your own language - wouldn't you think that was expected? I believe this is why American's don't care so much, they just think it is the normal way things work. As a kid, I took this for granted, as most Americans do. But I realized that I am instead lucky, because I don't have to wait for things to be translated into my language or for things to be released in America. Think about that - America is a place that is very important in the world, I think, and because of it I get access to things perhaps easier than I realize. It's hard to not take it for granted, when it is the only way you have had it.
Don't get me wrong though, I'm envious of the Japanese too. Being big on Anime and the Playstation 3, I've always wanted to learn Japanese so that I could get Anime quicker and perhaps play Japan-exclusive games. Over time though, I learned about Japan culture through movies, history, and anime... it might all be wrong, but I find Japan and it's language interesting and cool, otherwise I wouldn't be on here right now. But I'm not so quick to jump to conclusions, I like to find out things firsthand before I become a 'fanboy' of something.
>>238 I have a Javascript test on about 10 browsers if you would like to see a speed comparison. I personally enjoy Chromium, the beta of the beta so to say. It's the fastest browser out currently, however it lacks the features I enjoy, so I use Opera most of the time.
>>245 But if you do it at night, then you can sleep peacefully!
>>244 >Americans who have lived in Japan for several years and can't even greet in the local language. I'm sorry that they are like that. I wouldn't say it's embarrassing, as I don't get embarrassed, but I feel angry at them as some people hate our country just because of them. I've grown to hate humans as a whole, but maybe it isn't humans, maybe instead it is just Americans. I'm also sick of how religion is handled in America... but I don't think this is the right place to talk about that.
>>246 Thank you. This is the first time I asked this kind of question, which I have been eager to for a long time. Surely, it is good enough to be able to read books, see movies, and play games right after they are published or made. (except for Japanese animw or manga ^-^;) Especially, Japanese scientists have hard time when it comes to English. (like Masukawa, who won the Nobel Prize this year in phisics.)
>>243 I have many relatives who live in the US and many of them are actually American. So when my great-grandmother passed away, 1/3 of relatives at the funeral speak only English.
Like your father, my cousin moved to the US when she was little, so technically her first language is Japanse, but she already forgot most of Japanese. She can get the gist of what we're saying in Japanese, but she can respond only in English. So when her mother, who is Japanese, talks to her in Japanese, she talks back to her in English.
>>244 >Americans who have lived in Japan for several years and can't even greet in the local language. It is a shame. I want to move to Mexico or Spain, so I'm studying Spanish very hard.
Did you know, though, that in the US 5% of families don't speak English? And 18% don't speak English at home? This data is from the 2000 US Census.
>>251 >Did you know, though, that in the US 5% of families don't speak English? And 18% don't speak English at home? This data is from the 2000 US Census.
English isn't the official langauges of your country anyway. I've heard lots of things about bilingual education, English First, and whatnot. It seems there are many controversial problems about language in the US.
>>251 I'm not >>244, but I know that slightly, because I learned geotgarhy at the school. Spanishs are emigrating to America and they are not educated well. So, they speak spanish even in America and they spend hard time because they can't be hired by companies due to their lack of English ability. This is one of the social problems.
>>248 I'm really finding this interesting, learning what you and other Japanese people think of America, and what questions you have. I'm equally interested in Japan, but part of that was interest in how you perceive us, which I did get answered. I think everyone should learn another culture at least once in their life, as it's healthy to keep your mind open because it allows you to be more unbiased and interesting. As far as culture goes, I've wanted to visit Japan to learn of eastern religions. I could find this out in other countries, but as you know I have other reasons for wanting to visit! I'm not actually religious - I'm atheist... but I've been interested in Taoism recently, maybe even enough to practice it one day. Are there any Taoists in Japan, or is that rare?
>>252 http://4chan.b33r.net:88/uploads/sunspiderspicard.jpg It's a few days outdated, but only one thing changed: Opera's new alpha test (Opera 10 Alpha 1) is a bit faster and has more features Keep in mind this is only for Javascript speed, but also keep in mind that Javascript is almost everywhere now, and it is usually what determines a browser's speed.
>>254 I have heard this too. The Mexicans are an issue in the southwest states. I don't hate Mexicans (I don't hate any nation), but they should learn the language if they wish to get a job and live here. It's as if they are making themselves at home, disregarding the fact that they are in another country. As was said earlier, Americans in Japan might do the same things, I'm not saying that we are any better. I just don't think it is nice to do such things. I can't say too much on it though, because I don't live in the part of America which they are moving to.
>>255 Any war would disappear if people like you increase dramatically in number. I think the internet is the most useful tool to help with matual understanding, though it also have negative aspects such as humiliation or being addicted to it.
Anyway, speaking of religon, I'm also atheist. And I don't know well about Taoists though of course I know its existence in Japan. I'm too young to get interested in religion. However, I admit that religions whether it's Buddihism or Hindu, are great and we must respect monks, because they are mature enough.
I'm happy to know you are interested in the religion in Japan. Taoism is famous.
>>256 I took French instead. If you are to learn a language, you should WANT to learn it first. I didn't want to learn French, therefore I didn't try. I dislike the French language.
>>257 I didn't take Spanish, but I'm not quite sure I want to hear about cats your pants, if you are a guy (I could see this being an awful Spanish innuendo).
I took French some too when I was in a private school... I don't think they even offered Spanish lol. However, I didn't really give a shit about learning languages at that age so I just chose was seemed like I could get the most use out of it.
Unfortunately, any Hispanics with who you will communicate with in America know ENOUGH English. Knowing Spanish is only necessary if you are like... a government worker who deals with them all the time.
>>255 In general, the Japanese are atheist, agnostic, and religious at the same time. It's like "I'm not such stupid as to believe in deities, but it might be ridiculous to say the entire universe was born by sheer coincidence. All right. I kind of believe some obsure diety might exist. Making some popular religious rituals doesn't hurt anyway."
I think that's why religion isn't controversial in Japan. Most of us respect religions but don't believe them blindless.
As for Taoists, I haven't seen any in Japan. We all know about Taoism and kind of believe some part of it, but as always, we don't take it very seriously.
>>260 When I was 12 me and my mother tried Zen Buddhism... however I ran into some problems 1) I couldn't get into it. I respect Buddism, but I just wasn't interested in actually practicing it. 2) The Zen Buddists (I believe this is different from plain Buddhism?) were not accepting of my mother's choice to bring me to a certain rock concert of an artist named Kid Rock. We disagreed with them on that, so we stopped visiting as they acted like we weren't welcome. Buddhism by itself I do respect, and quite enjoy the thought of. I was just sharing that tale for the sake of it, so I hope nobody takes offence.
As for Taoism - Respect of family and humans aside, the basis for it, from the books I have read, seems almost atheist... I've read that the master/creator does not know good or bad, only what exists, and that humans are responsible to make goodness out of that. It is very admirable, and since the presence of this creator is so vague, I can't find any scientific conflict with it. Taoism just seems like a way to be a nice and open minded atheist. If anyone notices I'm wrong in any of this, feel free to tell me.
I don't think war will disappear, I'm a very hateful person on certain things and it's only human nature to fight. But we can always hope that here will be peace one day, right? (Yet it might not be so fun that way... take 4chan for example, it's lots of fun because of how mean it can be)
There was also another religion I don't really believe, but found to be interesting. I heard some things about the Shinto belief in Japan. If not for the religion itself, I feel I would like to visit one of the shrines, as it may be a peaceful place.
>>261 I see. They are all entry level low paying job. Do they speak decent English? Those jobs don't require good English command, do they, especially mowing lawns? Is it because they don't speak English well or because they don't have good academic background for them to do those kind of job? If I'm right Tennessee is an inland state. Even states that doesn't border with or aren't near mexico have hispanic population? I know NY and Florida has lots of hispanic population from dominca pueru torico, though.
By the way, >Which is more common Elvis sighting or hispanic sighting? Did you detect a sense of humor in this sentense? I tried to make it sound humorous and want to know how you felt.
>>263 If you are taking to me... I learned everything I know about computers by reading things on my own. I've never taken a computer class, but I learned things as I went. One day I thought "My computer is slow, and people say building one is cheaper more fun, I should do this!" So I started reading review sites like anandtech.com, tomshardware.com, and fudzilla.com until I got the idea of how things worked. I've only known about computers for about 3 years now, but now I know my way around any current computer, much of what software is good or not, and a fair bit of Linux. I even know pointless things, like what is in a game system. There is SO much to know, and the only reason I know all of it is because I'm addicted to computers. I always want to know more, and be up to date every day. I currently go on 4chan's technology board to argue about these things, but I wouldn't recommend going there until you know a lot of stuff, because people like to be mean to newcomers.
So if you really want to know about computers, just learn as you go! Read some review sites and ask some questions to people who are nice!
It's unfortunate that I don't know so much about more popular things, like cars... but I'm slowly learning about those too.
Many of them only speak enough English to do their job and little more. They don't speak very well, I'm assuming, because many of them are illegal immigrants and don't have the time or money to learn... or perhaps desire. Several of these immigrants take the money they earn in American and send it back to their families in Mexico or whatever Hispanic country they come from.
Tennessee is an inland state and does have a rather large Hispanic population... it is just a testament to how many Hispanic immigrants have come into the U.S. They have spread out enough to find wherever a job is available.
>>269 I don't know the practice of Zen Buddihism well, but I have some impressions about it, like severe training, strict way of living etc... I think it's hard to conform it if you are an ordinally person like most of people, so monks should be adored, maybe.
I visited 4ch yesterday for the first time and I'm not sure about it, but it seemed terrible place...
>I would like to visit one of the shrines, as it may be a peaceful place. All most all shrines are peaceful, so don't worry !
>>266 That's perfect! I think that is how everyone should be: Focus on day-to-day life, recognize what values religion teaches, but remember not to believe EVERYTHING that religion teaches, as blind faith never helps anyone. I'm really agnostic, but I consider myself atheist because I am more or less against the ignorance that many Americans have over religion. It seems that Americans don't question their religions enough, and are also less tolerant of other religions. So I call myself atheist not because I really am, but because I'm against the way these groups of Americans act. I know its not the right thing to do, but thats just me.
>>276 >I visited 4ch yesterday for the first time and I'm not sure about it, but it seemed terrible place... It's completely unique. There is a certain way of behaving when in 4chan that makes it entertaining. If a person can't follow along like that, they usually don't have a good time as people tend to be too mean. You have to think of it as a secret club, where you can say what you want to others, but not feel bad about it because people don't know each other. It gets rid of stress and is a good way to take out anger... but I suppose it isn't for everyone. One word of advice though - If you ever visit 4chan again, don't go to the "/b/ - random" board. It is filled with idiots, and it isn't even entertaining. When I'm there, I post as Captain Spicard, so that people recognize me as I visit every day for many hours. Some people hate me for my opinions when I am there, and other people agree with me, but the point is to not take things personally.
>>268 I went with my boyfriend playing with the toy and had an afternoon nap, and so on. He was able to walk around and talk to people a little lately. It's so happier for me to watch his stature/I am so happy to watch his stature.
>>281 I have a graph somewhere, which I can't find right now.. but it listed the percent of atheists per country. America was one of the lowest, it was sad. The highest was some European country, finland maybe?
>>279 >>280 Thanks for your adivise. I remember it. I understood 4ch is a bit better place than 2ch is in general.lol (humiliation and irony prevail on about 40 percent of thread in 2ch.lol)
Can Japanese people be accepted there ? If I go there, should I behave very politely and be very modest ?
>>274 I see. I guess the dollar they earn makes a big difference for their family or relatives in their home country. The situation is similar in Japan. We have Brasilian workers in some parts of Japan where manufacuring business such as car or electronics appliance manufactures are concentrated. The population rate of them in Japan's entire population is just a fraction though. They work factries and sned money they earn to thier home contry. The reason why there are many Brasilian workers are here is that Japan and Brasil has a tie. I mean long time ago, when Japan isn't economical superpower, some Japanese emigrated to Brasil. Now thier descendants and other Brasilians come to Japan to work at factories in Japan. And good to know you got the joke. hehe.
>>284 4chan has a very interesting culture. they may ask odd questions, or say odd things. but this is because they are joking. it is best to stay anonymous there. 2ch seems more personal to me than 4chan. but then again I only came here a day ago.
what are you interested in? maybe I can tell you what boards you would fit in to, and a little bit about them?
>>284 Everyone on 4chan is a hypocrite. Even if they like Japanese people, they would probably not admit to it. If you are going to visit /a/ - anime or /m/ - mecha or other anime related boards, I think they like the Japanese enough. Other boards, like /o/, /mu/ and /k/ are full of idiots who .. I don't know how they would react to a japanese person. Point is - when going to 4chan, don't say you are Japanese, unless you really want to. As for if you should behave polite or not... that depends on the part of 4chan you visit. The section I am on, /g/ - technology is by far the meanest board there is. Read around 4chan and get used to the style of talk before talking with them, they can be mean if you don't follow along or if they notice you are new. I didn't post for the first year I was there! Now I post every second there is something good to talk about. Also, be aware of trolls, people are always making up stories on 4chan.
>>284 If you want to post on 4chan, I would stick to the Japan/General board: http://zip.4chan.org/jp/ They are, of course, friendly towards Japanese people and (in my opinion) much more civil than other boards.
>>280 >One word of advice though - If you ever visit 4chan again, don't go to the "/b/ - random" board. It is filled with idiots, and it isn't even entertaining.
/b/ has more native English speakers than other boards so I'd say it may be good to go there to learn how idiots speak English. Also, /b/ is really fast, so you should be very fluent to catch up with others; you pause for 3 seconds to post in your second language, your post becomes irrelevant.
It's like if you become a /b/tard, your writing and reading speed improves and your intelligence deteriorates.
I wonder how Sparky, who is from Bible Belt think when you say you are atheist. Maybe he doesn't care because his god is his own windows Me PC. That's his religion.
>>291 I'm from New York, one of the most democratic and open minded states in America (partly because of the famous new york city) So, up north we think differently of those southern states... I asked Sparky once how he managed to not be killed by all of the rednecks there. I believe they don't think very highly of people who like Japan or any other country!
Actually, I've heard the /jp/ board is delusional. Someone told me that the believe they are the last remnants of the good /b/ - as if they are some sort of proper /r9k/. I'm not sure I'd want to visit /jp/.
>>294 But sparky, /g/ misses you. They've said so. Why do you think I came here yesterday?
>>297 They are too vulgar, lazy, and pathetic regardless. I'm almost certain that the Christian religion is fake, and that its purpose was to get people to be nice to each other... ...but the method is both outdated and not working correctly.
I will go 4ch when my English ability has improved much, and can adjust to the conversation. Now, my English is as low as American 8 years old boy, so I accumulate knoledge and enjoy conversation here in this thread for the time being.
Ok, thank you all people here again. I got a bit tired and I will take a rest. See you next time.
>>301 It might be good for your English, as everyone in 4chan makes up stories to fool each other. It'll be confusing until you learn to spot them, but once you do it might help your English skills. Also... as long as you are posting with no name (anonymous) don't be afraid to ask questions, as they don't really know who you are so they won't remember you later. And if you want any backstory to 4chan, read up on http://www.lurkmore.com/wiki/Main_Page
>>300 >I'm almost certain that the Christian religion is fake, and that its purpose was to get people to be nice to each other... >...but the method is both outdated and not working correctly.
I think so too. I think religion is fake per se. It's good because it teaches people how to behave. The point is that we shouldn't be brainwashed by that.
I know this is off topic right now, but I said I would post the final draft when I had finished my Japanese project because you guys helped me so much. So here it is. It's supposed to be a restaurant guide and then a short part about what I did there.
>>308 I think that western/monotheistic religions are openly fake, but I think that eastern religions were what they actually believed.
>The point is that we shouldn't be brainwashed by that. Harder said than done. My mother told me as a kid that she would take me to any religious place of worship and teach me whatever religion, but that otherwise she would let me decide on my own. In this way I may infact be brainwashed to be non-religious! I try to keep open to the fact that I may be the one who is wrong, instead of the others, but I believe that most of this whole religion thing is just too outdated to be taken seriously The only religions that still hold value are the more philosophy/spiritual based ones, as eastern religions are. I think this because there is always something to be gained from them, be it ideas or relaxation for the mind. This is why I've been considering Taoism as of late, and would also like to visit a Shinto shrine at least once.
Whether or not we are correct, it's good to be able to think about these things logically, don't you think?
>>312 Doesn't look oddly spaced to me, but I don't know the first thing about it.
>>311 Nobody knows about you except for that you use ME and like Japan very very very very much. You should write it yourself. Then I can troll /g/ with it.
>>293 I asked Sparky once how he managed to not be killed by all of the rednecks there. I believe they don't think very highly of people who like Japan or any other country!
More than 90% of Japanese would be surprised to death if they knew many Americans would say that. If you grow up in Japanese culture, it's hard to be brainwashed by religion.
America has been brainwashed by religion throughout history. The country was founded on separating church and state (protest of Great Britain), but line between the two have become blurred since after the Cold War. I'm not sure what Spicard means by Christianity being "openly fake," but several Americans, perhaps even the majority earnestly and sincerely believe in religion.
Not long ago I went to a very popular church in this new town I have moved too for university... it is so popular they even broadcast it on TV. This was one of those evangelical churches. The music they played before the sermon was amazing. They had professional singers and musicians... practically a full orchestra, but the sermon was so absurd. But... I'm not a religious person.
>>324 Maybe you got perma-banned because you kept on yelling MODS = FAGS Like, 1000 times. That probably did it. And don't tell me you didn't know /g/ was the meanest board... doesn't the term nerd rage mean something to you?
>>323 I know what you are saying about the churches. They really take control of people's lives sometimes. Evangelical churches are the worst. What god would set such strict guidelines as they seem to follow? It's irrational. My roommate is some kind of evangelical/bourne again. He is very nice to all of us, but he rarely talks to us. He doesn't do things that a college kid would do, and instead stays in his room all day to study for classes. His parents wont let him watch much TV, and he has never played a video game, but he doesn't seem to mind. Perhaps the most obvious thing about him is that he is always in a strict dress code. I'm never mean to him, as I try to be nice about his religious choices, but I feel as if it is unjust to do brainwash someone to that degree. I'm also kind of worried of what he thinks of me and the other 2 roommates, if he thinks we are all tests of his faith, directly from god? It's unsettling, but I don't mention it because I know these things shouldn't be gotten into.
名無しさん : XP is the BEST!!!!!!!!!Cool!!lol スカルファック : きみは? スカルファック : おちんちんは好き? 火花(4 ^ヮ^)ミ田◆AZWpeumso. : fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 ANGRY SPARKY4 AGAINST ANONYMOUS! スカルファック : 学校は? 火花(4 ^ヮ^)ミ田◆AZWpeumso. : YOU SUCK AND SO DO XP!!!!!!!!!!! 火花(4 ^ヮ^)ミ田◆AZWpeumso. : WinDOZE eXtra Problems!
>>161 That's the best way. No anti-virus software companies can't cope with that!
There are a lot of Chinese people in Singapore so I can imagine how they celebrate New Year. But Maybe their New Year is in Febraury if they celebrate it based on lunar calendar...
Anyway, now I know what you meant! Yes. That happens. Products ralated to the animal of a year sells. But not all the products can be related to the animal of a year, though. There's no such PCs on which cow face is printed on the year of the cow, for example, which is obvious...Ceramic dog can sell well at the biginning of any year of dog. I'm sure a Ceramic rabbit sells at the begining of any rabit year well. But I don't know if a diary with dog's face on it sells well or not. because some people don't think it's cool to have a diary with dog's drawing on its cover. But there sure are diaries or other products that sells well in accordance with the animal of a year. Can't think of good examle though.
Anyway those products related sell well at the very end of previous year or at the beginning of the new year when people are concious of what animal year the new year is.
So you're 年男 this year. That's once in twelve years opportunity. Enjoy the rest of your 年男 year.
Hey everybody, I just had the second half of my final for Japanese class tonight. I got 96% on the spoken/reading portion on Monday. Today I did a little worse. 89% for the written test. Oh well.
>>347 Oh, really? That's great! You got almost the full mark on spoken/reading test, in particular. I wonder why they don't conduct lisning comprehensin test, though.
Sparky, don't act as if you were in 4chan. You are in 2ch now not 4ch.
I was wondering why he often posts a link to an image file but now I know why. He doesn't get out of the habit of 4ch, which is an image board. You don't have to post a link so often as you do in 4chan. 2chan isn't a image board in the first place.
>>347 You did very well on the test. 89% is superb to think you're preoccupied by the thoughts of shaving you know what. High five!
>>348,349 Thanks, but I still have a lot to learn. Japanese is a good challenge, and I'm not nearly as proficient as I want to be. These scores are encouraging though.
Come to think of it, I think one of the biggest reasons why image boards are addictive is because you can attach a picture to your post. Often a picture carries more than 100 lines of words. I often want to attach a pic to my post.
>>362 I think your Japanese is already good, though I can tell you're not a native Japanese speaker from some grammatical errors and wording. Let us know if you want some feedback from native Japanese speakers. I'm happy to correct errors and suggest alternative wording.
>>362 パラパラ? maybe you mean ペラペラ, meaning fluently? たいてい、いいことばをしりません。You mean most of the time you don't know appropriate words to make yourself understood?
そこで correct が惜しいでした。(ほしかった?)I need more imagination to understand what you tried to mean.
もう、漢字はすごいたくさんあるから、あまり読めません。 もう、sounds a bit awkward but ither than that, decent Japanese.
私は電話で日本人と話してあの人が外人とはなすのを知りませんといいんですが If I use imagination, I think I know what you mean. You mean, I want to be fluent in Japanese to the extent that a person on the other end of line doesn't recognize I'm a foreigner. I suppose that's what you meant.
>>362 You got across to me almost perfectly. I'm not the kind of person who like to point out tiny mistakes since I understand your point, But パラパラ is supposed to be ペラペラ, meaning "fluent". And yes, as you corrected yourself, 惜しい is supposed to be 欲しい。 (note: 惜しい means "close/almost")
I'd say 分からない in the context, instead of 知らない. 知る is often used to mean "you have the knowlege on something" 分かる is used to mean "you can tell if...." So it's preferable to use 分からない, because the point you wanted to make is, when you talk on the phone with a Japanese, he/she can't tell if you are Japanese or not.
MY NAME IS 四葉☆ちゃんねる SON OF A BITCH 4CHAN 4CHAN IS PIG DO YOU WANT "MEMES" DO YOU WANT "DESU" 4CHAN IS PIG DISGUSTING MOOT IS A FUCKING MURDERER FUCKING 4CHAN
>>381 Well, you were perma-banned anyway... You know you were only mistreated because of the fact that /g/ isn't a blog, more or less. Then again, this isn't a blog either. You are lucky to have sound such nice people!
By "As fluent as in his first language, I guess.", I wanted say, I guess he wants to be as fluent (in Japanese) as in his first language (obviously English). I'm sorry I should've written the whole sentence. =)
>>381 Listen Sparky, You know this well already, If You like to be peaceful and get along with them, You'd not better mess around there, gikopoli with annoying AA.
とても*ペラペラ*になりたい。今*はまだ*日本語は難しい。たいてい、*てきせつな*ことばを*おもいつき*ません。 These are not errors (except for パラパラ) per se, but the sentence sounds natural this way.
たとえば、そこで correct が惜しいでした。(ほしかった?) If you mean, "For example, I don't know the Japanese equivalent of "correct" so I'd end up saying something like ''そこで correct が惜しいでした。(ほしかった?)," then I'd say たとえば、correctを日本語で何と言うのかしりませんので、'「そこで correct が惜しいでした。(ほしかった?)」と言ってしまいます。 Also, ほしかった is the correct way to say "wanted" in Japanese and "correction" is 訂正(ていせい). On a side note, 何と is pronounced なんと in this usage.
もう、isn't neccessary. If you want to put it there, it'd be better to also put ほんとうに so it reads もうほんとうに漢字はすごい...
電話で日本人と話して外人だとばれないといいんですが is better in my opinion. You don't need to explicitly say the subject of the sentence and who you want to fool in the embedded clause because it is obvious.
I understand the corrections you guys gave me, thank you. I don't know if I still need to post my intent, because it seems that between you all, you got it right. As for when I wrote "惜しいでした” that was a typo. It was meant to say "ほしいでした" even though that's wrong too - i just didn't know the proper usage. On the line about kanji, I intended "もう”to be something like "also" but I guess it didn't come out that way. I tried not to let my computer auto-convert any kanji that I don't know myself. I sometimes have difficulty deciding when to use "しります" or "わかります" so it's good to get a little explanation on that too. I was particularly uncertain about the last line. I wasn't sure it would work to connect the verbs "talking" and hte other person "understanding" the way I did with て form. I guess that was okay though, since it wasn't something you guys (specifically) mentioned.
Again, thanks you all for poking at my Japanese to help me. Please feel free to correct any other posts I happen to make in Japanese as well. I do them occasionally.
Sparky, do us a favor. You said you saved my post guidelines, right? I'd like you to look at the file you saved them in, and retype them here. Don't copy/paste. Re-type them yourself, please. This might help you remember them. Also, they'll be shown in this thread then for you to look at as well.
>>410 Correcting is very difficult in that more often than not, it's better to change the original setense altogether than tweaking here and there. Sometimes tweaking works but in most cases, just tweaking ends up an unatural sentense even if it can be understood.
>>420 I understand what you mean. Things don't usually translate directly, so it's usually best to rewrite things and try to get the same "feel" than to hope for words that actually mean the same. This is why if I'm translating something I hear or read, I often end up using different words than were actually said. The important thing is to get a sentence that MEANS the same. Not one that IS the same. That is, one that gives you the same feeling or understanding, not one that uses the same words.
Anyway, I give all you kind native-Japanese-tachi free reign to mess with any Japanese posts I make.
>>419 There's no point in guiding you, huh? Just because you have a problem doesn't mean you are allowed to do whatever you like to do. You don't follow the advice, and you'll get the ax. Don't expect any more tolerance on our side.
Speaking of mistakes, I just made a horrible one. I sent a handout to my professor, to be passed out while I gave a presentation.
But I just realized now it says "...followed by SEX years of service to the government," instead of "followed by SIX years of service to the government."
>>421 On a similar note, if I make changes to a post form any of you, please don't feel I'm trying to be rude, or tell you you're wrong. I just want to be helpful. Hopefully I won't offend anyone by being presumptuous and trying to help without being asked.
>>424 I'm happy if you help me know the difference between `impertinent` and `presumptuous` ? If it's quite hard to describle the difference, you can say so to me.
>>432 Presumptuous is overly-assertive, or arrogant. Acting on things you shouldn't necessarily do without being told. Impertinent is bad-mannered, or bold.
They have a very similar feeling, but in many cases, you could apply impertinent to a child, doing things that they maybe shouldn't, but they're having fun. presumptuous is more intentional, I think. Taking action that nobody asked for, and I think there is a strong feeling of arrogance with it.
>>436 It would be better to say "I want to be of help to you." I'm not really sure why that is, but this is the correct way to say it. You could also say "I want to be helpful to you" or simply "I want to help you." The last one is probably most natural.
>>436 We have phrases such as "I want to be of help to you." "I want to help you" "I want to give you help" or "I want to be your helper" The last is kinda weird, but it would work I suppose in certain situations. The phrase you said doesn't work because we don't say the word help with an article in front of it, and although it is a noun, we don't use it as a title for someone, like we do with helper. Although we can show posession with the word "of" it is more likely to be awkward, and especially so when referring to people i think. I hope this answers your questions.
>>442 Interesting.... Then what's the difference between "I'd like to be of your help" and "I want to be of help to you" in >>440? "of help to you" sounds better than "of your help" in terms of the wording?
>>440 >we don't use it as a title for someone, like we do with helper Ok, I got it. Thank you very much ! In Japanese, there is a following pharase : あなたの助けになりたい So, I asked the above question. Anyway, considering it deeply, I'm a bit confused.^^;
Ok, thanks again, from the bottom of my heart(心から)
>>443 Strictly speaking, I guess I'm not sure. It just doesn't feel right to me. I can tell it's not the way it should be worded. I think if you have a sentence with the words "your help" it's implying the other person is helping.
Maybe I really don't know, or maybe I'm just tired. Sorry I can't give you a proper answer. Maybe somebody else will have a better reason for you.
Korean guys can attract white girls. Korea has the strongest power in the world.
Korean guys are white girls make the best couples. Korean guys like white girls and white girls love Korean guys. So what it boils down to is, they love each other like magnet. It's destination they can't refuse.
Korean guys are the most popular among Asian girls, too. Actually, Korean actors are welcome everywhere they go in Asia probably thanks to Korean Wave. They know more about Korea and Korean Shows. lol Their passion for Korean guys is something! lol
Many girls are mesmerized with Korean guys. I'm proud of it. :)
A lot of Korean people come and study in America. Korean guys are getting more and more popular in America coz they are well educated, quite good-looking, and nice to girls. White girls are waiting in line to ask out Korean guys. I'm proud of it. :)
>>459 You usually sleep early but you are a night owl today. You didn't play catch with your mom to the extent that you are tired.
>>460 Hey, I'm real >>454. You chatted as a normal poster until half an hour ago but once conversation here settled down, you can't resist the itch of wanting to pretend Korean. Good. Maybe better than no chatting.
>>462 What about Bobby Lee? All the female cast members of MadTV turned a cold shoulder on him. He is supposed to be more popluar if what you've just posted here is correct.
>>468 How people say goodbye.. more specifically how we say goodbye between myself and my boyfriend compared to myself and my mom. I had to record the goodbyes then analyze them.
>>472 Pragmatics.... It's a fun paper to write, isn't it? Who's framework are you using when you do a discourse analysis? Anyway, good luck on your paper. And don't work too hard.
It's decided that Japan is going to financially support South Korea again!! plus, Korea is already in debt to Japan. I don't think they have any mind to give the moeny back. *sigh*
>>477 lol ... I said rather write... that doesn't mean I write them for fun. I like sudoku though... I haven't done any puzzles lately but I used to work on them sometimes.
>>161 I'm a rat too! イギリス人さん it's so nice to hear from you again. I was afraid that you dropped off of this thread.
>>480 At the risk of encouraging more bad behavior, I would say the following-- Sparky, if you have ADHD, please be aware that there is medication that you can take to help with this condition. There are many different kinds available, so you'll have to consult with your doctor to see what works best for you. Also, there are behavior modification techniques that can help. My son has mild ADD and can't tolerate the meds, so this is what he uses. To you and (anyone else out there) who hates their life, please realize that no matter how bad things are for you now, it is only a temporary state, and your situation will improve. Even if you have depression, it will lift on its own eventually. Although it will go away faster if you seek medical help. I have a lot of experience with this, as one of my family members has battled severe depression for years. You can change if you really want to. As a teenager, your life is completely before you, so go out there and give it your best. I'm rooting for you, but I don't want to feed your negative attention-seeking behavior, so this is my last post on this subject. Good luck!
You people are just jealous of me. I have everything what you want that you people never get rest of your life. First step you people have to do is trying to get job because you people are neet. Forget about me and consider about your future.
>>492 Did I say that? I'm certainly not in my thirties now. It's getting harder and harder to remember what I've said and done, and I'm not even drinking that much.
Also, while I'm here, I'd like to clear up a little misconception in my profile. While my daughter hates it when I play Guitar Hero (she doesn't like the music), my son actually encourages me to play sometimes, so he can use the money my character earns to buy cool stuff in the game. Right now, we're saving up to buy the God of Rock.
>>495 No. It was a shotgun marriage. Your first kid was born when you were 22 and the second kid when you were 29. Now you're 36. You said you were in your thirties.
>>493 Try really hard to be considerate to others, and think of how your words and actions will affect them. Most people will give you the benefit of the doubt if they see that you are trying to fit in. If you make a mistake (and we all do), apologize. And most importantly, take half a minute and reread what you have written. Ask yourself "Do I really want to post this?" Then, go ahead and hit the button. I actually screen my own posts to make sure I really want to say something. Also, I hate making grammar and spelling mistakes, but that's just me.
>>497 I wish I did! I learned to play the piano when I was a kid, but we can't afford one. Plus our house is small, so we have no room, even for an upright. But I have been looking at digital pianos. They aren't too expensive, and they're small and light. I want one of those someday!
>>498 Nice if that were true! In truth, I'm a year older than Barack Obama.
>>500 Not at all, I don't get offended easily! I realize that it was all in good fun.
>>493 To realize that a great number of people are suffering the same symptoms as you. I felt relieved to know there are a lot of peopl in the state of depression. I know this way contradicts to something vague...
>>497 I wish I did! I played the piano as a kid (not very well), but we don't have the money or space for one, even an upright. But lately I've been looking at digital pianos: they're small, light and inexpensive. I want one of those!
>>498 Nice if that were true. I'm actually a year older than Barack Obama.
>>500 Not at all! I realize that it was all in good fun.
Americans always try to look they are tough and strong. If you admitted you were offended, that would proved you were a weak person. That's against American value in which you gotta be tough.
>>503 It is such a mystery to me that so many people are unhappy when they are young. I mean, you are free to do whatever you want, your parents are probably there to help you if you get into trouble, and you are at the height of your physical beauty and strength. I remember feeling down a lot when I was in my teen years and twenties, although in retrospect, what seemed like big crises back then turned out not to be such a big deal. Now that I am older, with all kinds of responsibilities like a mortgage, kids, plus my body is slowly falling apart, I'm the happiest I've ever been in my life. Go figure.
>>508 Yes, you are right. I agree with you. I know the reason why people(including me) feel depressed when they are teens or twenties. This is because we have higher expectation to our life. As for me, I enjoyed in my elementary school days and I have to admit I was happiest in those days. Now, I'm unhappy. I tend to compare the time when I was happiest with today's situation. I know to see life relatively is fool, but it is easier said than done... Anyway, I'm getting happy gradually, so don't worry. Thanks.
>>505 Oops, I posted twice. My computer is updating slowly, and I thought I had deleted the first post. ごめんね。
>>507 I suppose there is some truth in that, but actually I don't get offended easily. Especially on anonymous chat boards.
>>509 No, actually I'm embarrassed about it, so I don't admit it except to my closest friends. Of course, the danger here is that my kids now know how to humiliate me in front of other adults.
>>510 I can manage chopsticks pretty well. My grandparents went to Japan on business when I was litte, and when they returned, they taught us how to use them. But I usually eat my food with a fork, unless I'm eating take-out Chinese, Thai or Japanese food. The one thing I can't do is eat ramen with chopsticks. I get self concious about slurping it, and it seems messy. So much neater to twirl it onto a fork.
>>511 Interesting. In Japan, it is quite natural for us to use chopstics, so it is hard to believe it. But I know it is true, because I have seen such people on youtube.
>>513 I cannot slurp when I eat ramen noodles with my friend from America. Making any noise while I'm eating is a big no-no to her. So I'm making most of a spoon called "renge". I put a chunk of noodles on it, pick them up with chopsticks and put them in my mouth. No slurping at all. She's happy. I'm happy too.
I can't use chopsticks at all. Whenever I go to an Asian restaurant, I always ask for a fork.
If I went to Japan, I'd have to carry a fork around in my pocket. With the strict weapon control laws, I hope I wouldn't get arrested or seen as a potential mass murderer!
>>518 My friends were carrying plastic forks and knives in a plastic bag and toilet paper wherever they went while they were in Japan. Maybe you could be one of them.
>>516 It's true; I haven't personally experienced that. I would probably just stay away from really vicious boards. Who needs that kind of grief? This group here seems overall very nice, maybe unusually so.
>>522 If I'm eating Asian-style food, I eat my rice with chopsticks. Otherwise, I use a fork. It can be done.
I'm done working on the computer this morning, so I'll be signing off for now. Have a great day/night/whatever!
I'd be shocked if there is not a patrol of secret service members spanning a 1 mile radius around Obama wherever he goes... I'm sure the government is fully aware of the increased possibility of Obama being assassinated.
But besides that, the KKK is just a shadow of what it was. There are very few members and they are hardly active nor nearly as violent as they used to be.
America has conformed into becoming very racially tolerant in recent years... although many of the racist whites from the civil rights movement period are still alive today, they just keep their mouths shut.
Racism will be the things of the past soon. Racsim will be a crime. Organizations like KKK will be banned forever. Anyone involved in the movement like that will be inprisoned. And we all will be a part of one world government, which will provide peace and order all over the world forever.
>>535 You must not be American, must you? You don't understand the constitution of the USA. If you are American, you'll be just an opposite of so-called racist.
>>537 This is true. In my day to day life I feel that America is extremely tolerant of race, whether or not the individuals really like the other races. However, I feel that the roots of racism will always be there. It's as if it is human nature to distrust someone who is not like yourself, and it takes a smart person to overcome these prejudices.
>>538 ?? You are beside the point. I mean the first amendment. Even leftists like chomsky advocate the right of facists. Someone who denies other's right of thought and creed is not diffrent from facist.
>>219 Thanks for the in depth explanation, I understand now that "don't quote me" can be implied in Japanese without actually using the literal phrase.
Wow, there are hundreds of new posts in this thread since I went to bed. I'll try to skim through them when I have some time.
We are marching toward the world which a song like "Imagine" describes. But there are sworn enemies against our ultimate goal. They are any thoughts, ideas, creeds, or religions that could be oppressive to a certain group of people. They are the enemies of world peace and true unification of people all over the world. They must be abolished from the surface of the world.
Imagine denies even religion. Obama is a devout Christian. If you want to abolish those who are oppresive to others, Arm youself and go to Afganistan and Israel. They are creating phycical threats more than racists in the USA do. Otherwise How would you do to shut them up? I'm not for real. Just a cynicism. World is not simple.
>>546 You're strongly advised to put a trip code after your handle in order to avoid inpersonation like that. Be sure to search your trip code before you start posting. That is because some trip codes are already broken. If you keep using a broken trip code, something that really stinks will hit the fan.
I got my custom tripcode generated with a program called Tripper+. You can probably ask google for it. Unfortunately, the program's interface is about 5% English, 20% Japanese, and 75% gibberish. Good luck.
>>552-553 Your code is even better than mine. I only cared about getting jook at the front. It must have taken a long time to generate a full one like that.
>>554 I got it by running tripper+ on linux overnight. I originally wanted one that had CHROME in it because of the small commotion made over chrome on 4chan's /g/ when it was released. I was lucky enough to get a trip that sounded cool as well. Modchromes? I feel like a rapper.
>>555 I tried out chrome for a little while. Less than a day. Then I uninstalled and went back to Firefox. It was kind of interesting, but it doesn't have enough for me.
>>556 I have: Internet explorer 8 beta 2, firefox 3.1 beta 3, firefox 3.2 alpha 1, opera 10 alpha 1, safari+webkit, chrome, and chromium (developers use this as testing for chrome). I only really use Opera, but I test them all out to stay up to date. I think chrome will be good in the future, it looks like the perfect browser for a soccer mom, but right now its rather pointless.
>>557 Actually, for a little while I used one called Iron, which was put together by a German group. It's based on Chrome, but is private - Doesn't send everything you do in it to Google. I still like Firefox more though. Adblock is absolutely necessary. Greasemonkey is pretty great too.
>>559 I've heard of Iron, though I never used it because Chromium is the most up-to-date version of chrome. As for Firefox, I used to use it, until I learned that all the add-ons I used were built into Opera by default, along with some extra that I like. I still use Firefox for one thing though - posting images above 500x500 on 4chan, Opera doesn't agree with 4chan's settings, and wont post big pictures... But browsers are interesting to me, so I keep them all.
>>560 I had my chrome set to download the dev builds all the time so it would stay completely up to date. There were other problems though. What's the deal with not being able to scroll up?
>>569 In the morning, At night, in the middle of the day Love is a stripper (?) The feeling of nudity (?) In Spring, or Fall, or the middle of Winter Love is a stripper To see is victory
My whole body is visible to you I want to see all of you.
>>575 What, Odin's steed? I think he's pretty awesome. Everyone should have a magical, god-born eight-legged horse that travels over land, sea and air.
>>577 I had no idea what you were talking about but just found out about the eight-leeged horse. And no, I was talking about the multi-tab browser, Spleinir. I didn't know it is Japanese actually. http://www.fenrir-inc.com/us/
>>578 lol I didn't actually think you were talking about that. Actually, I had a vague notion sleipnir might be a band. If not, it would be a good name... Anyway, I've never heard of the browser, but I think I'll install it and give it a try on my secondary computer.
>>579 They say it's more customizable than Firefox but I've never used Firefox so I can't tell if it's really good or not. As a matter of fact, I use it with all default settings. lol
>>581 Are they as awesome as before, I mean, IBM? I wanted to buy a thinkpad a year or two back, but they were already bought by the Chinese compaby then, so I decided to stay away with them until someone confirms their laptos are as solid.
I think lenovo is good. I had a school-bought thinkpad, and it was durable to say the least. The laptop itself wasn't good, but that was because the school only supplied the slowest ones, but that's another story. Currently my laptop is an Eee 900, has a slow old 900mhz celeron in it, which is good enough. But I post from my desktop.
I specifically hate the new macbooks, what does apple think it is doing? Lack of buttons? What kind of trend is this... The macbooks that were just replaced, the last generation, were the only good apple product for the past few years in my opinion.
>>594 you said there was a lack of button(s) but the whole surface is one large button. simply push down on it and it moves to click. so you are wrong when you say there is a lack of button(s) this leads me to think that maybe you are uneducated about how it works. so hence i linked the vid. please consider watching it. please do not take my comments as rude, i am trying to keep my english more simple for here. :)
>>594 The mac trackpad is super useful. Once you get used to it, you can't imagine life without it.
>>592 I think everyone in this thread can understand the vid. For most langauge learners, writing is much more difficult than listening. I don't know why, but my active vocabulary is much smaller than my passive vocabulary. Maybe I can use less than half of words I can understand when reading/listening.
>>597 Well, I was a little bit off in my knowledge of the trackpad, but I still think it is an awful idea. I have a multi-touch trackpad on my Eee, and though these touchpads offer gimmicky features, I would never go without proper buttons. Leaving out the buttons is unforgivable on apples part, but this wouldn't be the first time apple's done wrong. Anyway, my opinion doesn't matter, you should buy what you think is best.
>>599 I actually wasn't able to find the video, as I uninstalled quicktime and iTunes as soon as I found a better mp3 player than my iPod. My iPod Classic 160gb is now a handy NTFS formatted external harddrive. But I did find a video from apple online, which shows these features.
>>596 ya i'm pretty sure everyone has. Chicago is nothing but corrupt. i really think this nation is going down the shitter on the way to socialism. i really do not know what i should do. flee the nation maybe? i am about to graduate in 1 more semester, and just about to start my life and then socialism happens. i find this very very scary.
Though I knew that, but I recognized yesterday that there are two shrines within an radius of 1 km from my house counsciously. And in my ciity. there would be more than thirty sherines or temples, which are big or small. I regard the exisitence of these historical places as natural. But considering carefully, I found that this is an amazing number. I found how our country has been steeped in Buddihism at its roots.
>600 >Leaving out the buttons is unforgivable on apples part, but this wouldn't be the first time apple's done wrong
the button is not left out! there is a button! the whole thing presses down and clicks! i do not know how else to explain this to you. please educate yourself by watching the vid. the opening shows it clicking.
The only thing is... most people would get sick of seeing it every day. Extreme casemods are an eyesore to see every single day, this is why I decided that my second computer be as plain as possible.
>>618 This is what I mean: http://4chan.b33r.net:88/uploads/P1010002.JPG I'm even slightly sick of the blue lights. I'm working part-time over the christmas holiday, probably going to spend the money on getting rid of the last few LED fans I have.
While I'm on that topic, I should probably ask this: What does everyone want for Christmas? Do many Japanese celebrate Christmas or a similar December holiday? I feel I should know more about these things before coming here, but I don't have a clue.
Please help with my English learning! Below English composition and sentenses are one which I wrote at the test the other day. Words which are put in parenthesis are check by a maker and seemt to be wrong. However, I don't know why they are wrong! I'm happy if you tell me the wrong point.
@Especially when they speak (in front of) a large number of people, they begin to worry about others reaction to (their commnets) and (say in indirect ways) in the end. Though they are told that they canot make themselves understood (in such ways) when speaking English, they find it very difficult to change their (ways) (in which they have done.)
AIf you don't have the ability to think, your knoledge would be (worthless in the end.) B(gain knoledge)
>>626 @Especially when they speak (in front of) a large number of people, they begin to worry about others reaction to (their comments) and (say indirect ways) in the end. Though they are told that they cannot make themselves understood (in such ways) when speaking English, they find it very difficult to change their (ways) (in the way they have done.)
AIf you don't have the ability to think, your knowledge would be (worthless in the end.) B(gain knowledge)
>>620 >Do many Japanese celebrate Christmas or a similar December holiday?
Christmas is a huge marketing ploy in Japan. There are some Christians, but they are rare. We all know about what happened to the self-proclamed son of God to some extent, and kind of celebrate the day, but don't care about the religion. It's a cool religion coming from the country of Hollywood or some exotic Europian nation. The majority of us don't believe it, but respect part of their teaching/docrines/dogmas/whatever. Christmas has very little to do with religion.
Does anybody play Guild Wars? I've been getting back into it the last couple days. At one point, I went to check out the Japanese server to see if I could talk to anyone and practice. But, it's completely deserted. So I decided to stay anyway cause there's no lag from other people.
>>629 I know what you mean. I'm not Christian either, but I enjoy presents!
>>624 I really want to help, but even I am confused as to why some of them are wrong. I know that 3) should have the word "knowledge" instead of "knoledge" as it is spelled wrong. Also in 1) it should be "their comments" not "their comnets" as that is also spelled wrong. The rest sound alright to me, and since I'm not an English teacher I don't know what to say.
>>620 Christmas Chicken Dinner from Kentucky Fried Chicken. jk It's funny that we see it as an occasion for romantic miracles so lots of couples exchange presents, eat out at fancy restaurants and spend the night together at expensive hotels. Maybe it's like Valentine's day over there.
>>624 Line one (in front of) is correct. The next thing (their comments) is also correct. I'm not sure what you intended with (say indirect ways) so I can't tell you what it should be instead. Next, (in such ways) might be better off as (like that) they find it difficult to change their (ways) is correct. (in which they have done) is unnecessary, if I understand the intent. (worthless in the end) is correct. That sentence could also be written "If you don't have the ability to think, in the end your knowledge will be useless." (gain knowledge) is not a sentence, so I don't know what to do with it.
>>630 I'm curious about what my posts like >>629 would look like for a native English speaker who are not learning Japanese. If you were a Japanese learner, apparently your opinon would be biased because we could share some linguistic sense.
Can you let me know what you thought of it? I appreciate if you could correct unnatural wording and grammar mistakes.
As for the marker, I don't know who he is. But it is likely that he is an university student, because most of markers (more than 90 percent) are university or graduate students.
>>629 I must be the only Catholic person here. I am surrounded by Protestants everyday at school. Nothing exotic here. also Japan is that place that is "exotic"
>>636 I'm not learning Japanese...yet. At the moment, there is really no reason for me to be here besides that it's fun. Almost everyone here types their english correctly. It doesn't sound wrong, but some of it sounds extra formal. I don't mind that though, I think formal is nice and proper. But most Americans on the interenet don't even type proper english, so everything on this forum is better than what I'm used to. Every once in a while someone will type a sentance that takes too many words to describe something, but I understand it because it's logical, which is good I think.
>>638 Yeah, your Japanese is too good for me to ask such a question. Crystal is a would-be teacher, so her comment would be most valuable in almost all cases, but not in this particular case. アメリカ人 is also good at Japanese.
Can you help me, Spicard?
By the way, I wanted to say "Can you let me know what you *think* of it?". I was editing the last sentence and forgot to change the tense. As far as I know, "tell me what you *thought* of it" is strange in this situation because I'm asking his thought, which I don't know now.
>>640 It isn't exotic to the Japanese. This is why culture is fun, and speaking to the Japanese is fun. Everyone is human, and we all think the same... but since we live in different places we think other lands are strange and exciting! So by coming here I get to learn things, and teach things (I suppose).
>>636 your english is very good. it is all understandable. now i know they have told you that in english we can just keep stringing on ideas as long as we put a "," between them. while this may be true, you may want to consider breaking it up a bit in to several sentences. just seems more natural to me. even said, your sentence is still fine as is. be happy. and just to say, i am not an english teacher, so i do not know how much weight my comments have.
I'm not a master of English or anything, but I will tell you how I would phrase it. --- Christmas is just a huge marketing ploy in Japan. There are some Christians, but they are rare. We all know what happened to Jesus to some extent and celebrate it a little, but we don't really care much about the religion. It is considered a cool religion coming from the country of Hollywood and some exotic European nations. The majority of us don't believe in it, but we respect some of its teachings, doctrines, dogmas, et cetera. In Japan, Christmas has very little to do with religion.
>>624 1. (in front of) I don't know why that is wrong; it seems okay to me. (their commnets? should be comments) also okay "...and say in indirect ways in the end." The meaning of the last part of this sentence is unclear to me. This whole phrase is a bit awkward. Did you mean that the speaker is having trouble making a point because he is being too vague, in order not to offend people? "cannot make themselves understood (in such ways) when speaking English" not absolutely wrong, but not the best choice of words still (a conjunction would help here) they find it very difficult to change their ways. (leave off the rest; it's unnecessary)
Here's how I would write it, if I understand your sentence correctly: Especially when they speak in front of a large group of people, they worry about the audience's reaction to their comments, so they end up speaking in a vague [or unclear] way. Although they are told that they cannot be understood when they speak this way in English, they find it very difficult to change their ways.
2. If you don't have the ability to think, you will not be able to use you knowledge well. The sentence you had was grammatically correct, but the meaning was not not clear. Why is the knowledge worthless? You should be more explicit. 3. gain knowledge?? this is not a sentence.
In English writing, the active sentence is much better than the passive...try to use active verbs wherever possible. So, for example, I took the book. and not: The book was taken by me. Also, one should remove all unnecessary words from sentences, so that one's writing is clear and concise. Hope this helps!
>>629 This post reads like natural, informal English. I don't think it matters if the reader has knowledge of Japanese or not, since a native speaker can recognize sentences that just don't sound quite right almost 100% of the time.
>>645 >>647 Thank you! It's really intersting and helpful to know what native speakers think of my grammar and wording. Let me know if there's something I can do to help you. I may not be very helpful to you because you're not learning Japanese, but I'm happy to help you and contribute to this thread.
I guess this mostly applies to jook and Crystal. I was wondering what you thought of the AP Japanese kanji list: http://aitweb.csus.edu/fl/japn/ap_kanji_list.php It's about 400 kanji I'm supposed to know for the test in May... I think I know at least a third of them, recognition wise. I don't think I'd be able to remember how to write that many though. How about you?
>Did you mean that the speaker is having trouble making a point because >he is being too vague, in order not to offend people?
Yes! What I want to meant by `say indirect ways` is `speaking in a vague way` as you memtioned. It is said that Japanese people are try to avoid discussing and quarreling with someone, and try to say something vaguely. This is the content of this sentense.
>2. If you don't have the ability to think, you will not be able to use you knowledge well. >The sentence you had was grammatically correct, but the meaning >was not not clear. Oh, I realized it. I could understand the point well.
I have to admit that you are the best house wife in the world! Thanks a lot!!
So does anyone else have this problem? When I click on a link, the first place I go is a page with an ad for "Adult Tube" with an array of pornagraphic images. I wish I could bypass it...
i was taking some japanese classes 2 years ago, but they had nothing to do with my major, which is computer information sciences. so i had to quit them in order to focus on my major. :( i am sorry but have forgotten much of it by now. i do not have anything to really show off. i only remember a handful or so of the kanji.
>>662 Yeah, that page comes up for any link on 2ch. I guess it's a way of saying "Are you sure you want to leave?" or something. What I'd really like is a greasemonkey script to bypass the page, but if one exists, I haven't found it. Anyway, Adblock will take care of those ads for you. You'll still have to click through though.
It's too bad I copied only the Easylist USA list from Adblock Plus for my Opera blocker. I haven't any Japanese lists... I could find some, but I couldn't care less.
>>660 I haven't studied any kanji in a long time, but I think you'll have to resort to rote memorization for a lot of them. What I would do is write them on index cards, with the kun reading on the back. For remembering the on readings, it's easier to do with words made from kanji compounds. Then I would look at the kanji, and try to write down the correct reading. I think that writing it out helps you to better remember it. I would also break the bunch down into groups of 10-15 to study at a time. Go back and review older ones, to make sure you don't forget them. Also, mix up the groups, so you have a few easy, a few hard ones in each group. If you already know a third of them, you are well on your way to mastering the whole list.
As for knowledge of Japanese, it may be just me, but I understand nonnative-ish Japanese better than your average native Japanese speaker if it is written by English speakers. I think this is because I know some knowldge of English and have certain awareness of differences between English and Japanese.
>>652 Takekura sounds to me a Japanese family name. Also, I think it might be a name of place or company. I'm not sure how many girls are Takekura. But if I were a father, I wouldn't give my daughter the name. Anyway, Takekura does look like a proper noun.
>>662 There are many 2ch-tailored browsers that offer tons of useful functions. I think many of them has add-blocking. I haven't seen any English manual though. If I had the time, I could translate instructions of some of popular 2ch specific browsers. But I'm on a mac now and I can't test most of them myself...
>>675 Thank you for your extra explanation of the name. Here's why I asked - I've been studying Miyamoto Musashi this semester in college. I like him a lot. I've just created a swordfighter in a game (Guild Wars - that's why I asked earlier). But, I felt like making a female character. So I looked at the different readings for 武蔵 I decided Takekura seemed most liek a girl's name. Well, it was either that or Muzou. I liked the sound of Takekura better.
So, now I have a character named Miyamoto Takekura. 宮本武蔵。 The thing is, most people probably won't realize that it's the same name as Musashi. Sort of an inside joke, I guess. Except not funny.
>>675 >But if I were a father, I wouldn't give my daughter the name. lol.. if you named the name your child, whether the child is male or female, serious problems would occur to him/her in the future. Whenever she introduce herself, people would think she is joking.
>>679 That bad, eh? Well, the name exists now in the game, at least. I like it, so I guess that's what's important. If anyone complains I have an excuse - I'm just a stupid white kid. What do I know about Japanese? ;-)
>>680 a triple-boot system? How's that working out for you? I have a dual-boot machine (XP and Vista) with two hard drives. I've heard there can be trouble if you try to install an OS on a partition of a drive other than the active partition. Did you have any difficulty setting up your rig? I remember weh n Iwas first trying to dual-boot, I couldn't get the second OS to work until I moved everything from one partition to another. That way, my Vista boot is o nthe primary partition of my second hard drive, and XP is on the active partition of the first hard drive.
>>683 I had a triple boot a few weeks ago, I had Vista, Windows 7, and Slackware Then I realized it was stupid. It was also troublesome to do, as I had an extra storage partition on that 1tb drive, and I ran into issues with partition tables.
>>683 install the OSes oldest to newest and windows will setup the boot file correctly. the only issue then is if you want to format and reinstall one of them. learn grub. thats what i did on my old machine.
>>690 The 6801 build was pure eyecandy. It was actually still vista, as vista drivers worked on it, lol. The 6956 build I have, but have not tried yet.
>>692 Yes, I know about that. We're studying Yoshikawa's book. Not strictly accurate, I know, but it makes for very interesting classes. There are other things too. That's just the primary text for my class.
>>681 Maybe, in ancient Japan, there were women who has the name. But today, that trend has dosappeared.(what's important is the fact that takera is a family name.) Ok, but if woman who has the name surely exsists in the game you have, it is certain that the name was used as a girl's name.
>>692 They all use the same kanji, too! This is one of the things I don't like about kanji. Even if you know what it means, a kanji might still trip you up by being pronounced a different way.
>>674 Thanks for the suggestions. I'll probably put them into an Anki deck so I don't have 400 notecards laying around. Luckily the AP test is all done on the computer and it has auto-kanji conversion in its text editor. Here's sample questions from the test if anyone is interested: http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/ap/japanese/samp.html?japaneselang
Are there AP or equivalent classes for high school students in Japan? An AP class is a college level class which students can take in high school. The class is on a higher GPA scale and students take a test at the end of the year (May) to determine how much college credit they can receive. If they score a 5/5 or a 4/5, usually a college will give them credit for taking the class. They're a lot of work, but I think the AP classes I've taken so far have been worth it.
>>695 I read that book too. I think it's one of the most widely known books to Japanese as well. Now we have a very popular manga series named "Vagabond" based on that story. It's prety good too.
That is a lot of Kanji to learn I really recommend using a method where you use the drawn elements of the kanji, to create a meaningful picture in your head for the meaning of the kanji. I did that for many kanji this year and it really helps with memorization and recognition. If you suck at thinking of meaningful drawings on your own there is a book called Kanji Pict-o-graphix that has ideas for remembering over 1000 kanji with pictures. What I'm talking about is remembering kanji like kuro.. black.. 黒 I think of it as fire underneath a field. If a field catches fire it will turn all black with char. You can learn kanji quicker than rote memorization if you can find a good story/picture to learn it with.
>>668>>670>>671>>675 Thank you for your suggestions. I was able to install Firefox, no problem, but was completely defeated by Adblock Plus. But no matter, Firefox alone blocks those ads just fine! So happy! Got to go to sleep now; it's awfully late. Bye!
You can download a copy by clicking ダウンロード:1.6MB(.dmg) on the site. It works on English OS X. Actually, I'm using it on my macbook, of which I changed the primary langauge into English.
This browser got plenty of useful functions such as ad-skip (you can directly go to linked sites) and thumbnail image view. You don't need to leave a thread to watch linked youtube vids; it can open them in the post. Mouse over an anchor like >>1 and the corresponding post will pop up, and if it has another anchor, it'll pop up the same way. There are a whole lot more functions. On top of that, there are some plug-ins too to extend its functions. You can develop your own plug ins too.
I'm not sure there are an English manual, but the menus and such are all English if you're running it on an English mac. It's just a browser, so probably you don't have much trouble using it, even though it's coded by a Japanese.
>>709 Sorry, Sparky. I don't know much about Windows. Don't worry. I'm sure some other Japanese posters in here are 2ch-savvy, if I may say so. If no one gives links to downloads for a few days, I'll be looking for some.
>>713 I can see your post. If you're reading this thread through the browser, you can see something like "713+1" on your post number >>713? Mouse over the blue number, and this comment will pop up.
This auto-hides posts that contain specific words that you can set. If you don't want to read the Korea-is-awesome spammer's posts, set Korea, Corea and the like.
>>737 the 4chan firefox ext allows you to enlarge from thumbnail images located on 4chan only there is not a mouse over for non-4chan links in the firefox ext you will have to look elsewhere for that
>>743 Haven't used the search web option, tried it and it doesn't work on my mac either. I'll check the 2ch thread for this browser. The developer often posts on the thread so at least I can ask him directly if I couldn't find any info about that.
Chrome is fast. But there's one thing I don't like about it. If you use IE, you can right click on the scrole bar on the right and select up or down then you can go straight to the top or bottom page, but when you use chrome, there' s no such function. I know if you press "Home" button the top of a page are displayed and "End" button to display the bottom of a page. But I'd like to do it with a mouse as I can do with IE. Any idea?
>>557 >it looks like the perfect browser for a soccer mom, but right now its rather pointless. I wonder what this means? Chrome is so fast that it's best busy soccer mom?
I have a question about soccer mom? What connotation does the word have? MY understanding is that it means a mom very enthusiastic about her kid's education and do whatever she can to meet her kids deman scrificing herself. SO she even shauffer her kids. Am I right? I heard it's just means oridinary mom who loves her kids. I heard somewhere she is a a little wealthy mom living in a suburbs. Anyway, I'd like to know what "soccer mom" means and its connotation. Thank you.
BTW, you can reply by secondary-clicking a post and choose Reply to XXX. It's a lot easier than to type >>postnumber manually. Besides, you don't get the number wrong this way.
>>751 ah yes that reply function was what i had been missing the most from what i was used to with the 4chan firefox ext. twas the first thing i tried when i loaded up Thousand
I had thought soccer mom was literally the peoson who love soccer. lol Taking the context in which the word is useed into consideration, I can realize it isn't the meaning, at least. lol
>>750 Are you using Beta 164? You can check the version at About Thousand just like other mac software. Mine is Beta 160. I'm asking this because I may have to give some info to guys on said thread if the search web problem is a bag.
>>747 You expressed your question very well. I think soccer mom is a little of each of the things you mentioned. She is a stay at home mom most likely, who has kids who play sports (maybe not even soccer) She takes them to their practices and roots for them in games. She's probably a housewife living in the suburbs. She's very involved in her kids' lives even beyond sports most likely. She might be a PTA mom too.
I'm making an account at nicovideo since people keep posting links there and I've never been able to look. Not sure what all the registration questions mean though. All the katakana is easy. Some of the kanji i can tell. Some things i can figure out by the possible answers But what is this: お住まいの都道府県:
お住まいの都道府県 You can select anything you can. It's not relative to watch them.
秘密の質問・答え: this is secret passward , so It's danger to expose it here.
質問:全半角問わず 4〜64 文字以内 this is secret passward , so It's danger to expose it here. 答え:全半角問わず 1〜16 文字以内 this is secret passward , so It's danger to expose it here.
>>774 お住まいの都道府県: Prefecture you live in, i.e., a random Japanese prefecture you like.
秘密の質問・答え: Q&A for your password reminder.
質問:全半角問わず 4〜64 文字以内 Make a question (4-64 characters). 答え:全半角問わず 1〜16 文字以内 GIve the answer (1-16 characters).
全半角問わず means "regardless of 全角 or 半角." 半角 Japanese characters and Latin alphabets use 1 bite for each character and 全角 Japanese characters (ぜんかく consists of four 全角 characters) use 2 bites for each letter. Some websites, unlike nikoniko, counts a 全角 character as two characters.
>>771 That security question will be used when you forget your password and to recollect them. However, since it's extremely easy to get another account at nicovideo it doesn't matter at all.
>>774 I think you have to make your own question and answer for it.
This is for when you forget your password to log in. When you for get your password, niconico needs to identify your ID. Making the question and answer when you make your account works becasue when you forget the pass word, they ask you the question and all you have to do is to answer the question. Then they can tell you are a user who have made niconico account before and tell you your password or give you a new pass word.
It says in Japanese in fine print that it doesn't matter if it is wirtten in 全角 or 半角 so probaly, writing the question and answer is OK. Actually there are quite many users from overseas in niconico. Even Spa... has his acocunt so sign up process doesn't have to be difficult. lol
>>786 I spend my nights prowling the city and fighting crime with my cell phone and a katana, while wearing a shirt that says "I'm incredibly awesome" on the back. That's why you couldn't find me.
>>787 Even though I had known someone has already answered it by reloading a page, I might have a posted it. Becasue it's not so easy to post in English so I don't want to waste my effort, if you know what I mean.
>>793 Yeah. The photo. I saw it oploaded here. I never heard of 男伊達 but I looke it up in online dic and found it. 伊達男 is more common way but then again 男伊達 and 伊達男 is slightly different in meaning.
The moji plugin for firefox identifies 男伊達 as chivalrous man and it says 伊達男 is "dandy" or "dude" dandy isn't used any more. And I don't think the meaning of dude it's going for is the same as the way it's used now.
Korean guys is more something than Ammerican guys. Korean enterprises have the most competitive edge in the world. Korean guys enjoy great popularity among white girls. Every single girl is quite interested in Korean guys. They seem to want to marry a Korean guy, knowing that they can be happy together with K guys, mostly because the knowledge of Korean guys being nice to girls is spread all over the world.
Japs are jealous of Korean guys being popular among white girls Korean guys are horribly popular among girls all over the world thanks to Korean Wave. Korean guys are masculine and sturdy, cool and sexy. Korean cultures are overwhelmingly influential now that every girl has set their eyes on visiting Korea someday. White girls talk a lot about Korean guys whenever they hang out with their friends searching for their Mr perfect. They know the world would become collorless without Korean guys. That's quite true.
>>826 Do you read every post here and understand each of them? If so, you are exceptionally fluent in English. I have 英検一級 but still it's really hard to keep up with the pace.
>>827 What do you mean ? Whether you can keep pace with the speed here depends on your situation, doesn't it ? If you have enough time to read posts, it would be possible for you to read all posts and catch up with this thread. if you have no more than an hour a day to peek this thread, it would be impossile. Now, this thread is being consumed very slowly. It is very easy to keep up with the pace of this thread. Ummm, am I wrong ?
>>831 When I have a lot of time, I join conversation. So, thre is no need to check hundreads posts. I'm always skip over the posts when being busy. Today, I'm completely free all day, so I could catch up with this high speed. Looking back all the comments posted here isn't interesting and doesn't seem to be worth doing. What I do when being busy and have much time to stay here is just to read and grasp the stream of conversation vaguely and look for a clue to rejoin conversation.
I failed EIKEN-3KYU when I was in high school, but I can keep pace with this thread even I'm not be a neet. And there is just some words I have to check my dictionary.
>>834 I watched tokyo beat on niconico. Tokyo's scenes on that video are far from its real and beautiful overly. Their pics might be taken by expensive camera, from my bias.
Jealous sounds like: I am a city of Detroit, old, dirty and dangerous place. After watching the video I am jealous of Tokyo. She has much longer history than me, but still beautiful and charming.
My mind is going... I can feel it... I can feel it... There is no question about it. I can feel it... I can feel it... I can feel it... I'm... afraid...
It's been a while since I last came here. I just noticed the short introduction of people here in the first part of this thread. Who wrote that? It's very well written.
Anyways, is I wonder whether イギリス人 is still around. I remember he kindly answered the questions I once asked, and want to say thank you to him.
Actually I have not been able to read all the comments for the last three threads. I could not read the latter part of the previous thread. So I don't know who captain spicard and so and so are.
How very strong Captain Yamamoto is! He defeated ,with a single blast of Ryujun Jakka, the monster that cut the lung off of Leutenant Matsumoto (is she going to die?) and damaged Hinamori hard, and the other two leutenants, Hisagi and Kira, weren't able to damage it no matter how hard they tried. Yamamoto is too strong to be true. Vizards couldn't hold a candle to him.. Compared to the captain, Ichigo would be a joke. He's supposed to be the protagonist.. Oh hey! What happened to Urahara? Where is he now? Is he still in Karakura town? I want to see him do bankai! What would be his like?
>>873 You must be Mr. Perfect from the land of kimchi, you can't hide the truth. So he's really jealous because you mesmerise all white girls in the world.
>>862 They are newbies and from 4chan. They showed up in the previous thread for the first time. Someone here put a link to this thread in 4chan's thread and they followed the link and came here. 【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. =Sparky acted like a spammer and we didn't know why he acted like a nuisance. He was in 4chan, too so the man who put the link in 4chan asked 4channelers what kind of person Sparky is.
Sparky promised not to act like a nuisance. But who knows? So far so good.
I remember Captain Hitsugawa mentioned Espadas were horribly strong, even stronger than the captains of Gotei 13.. But Kenpachi and Byakuya and Mayuri made it relatively easily..
Oh hey, do you think Aizen already pulled the power of Hogyoku and already became a Vizard? I believe with Hogyoku he could've been successful in hollowfication experiments!!
>>876 They are newbies and from 4chan. They showed up in the previous thread for the first time. Someone here put a link to this thread in 4chan's thread and they followed the link and came here. 【火花(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso. =Sparky acted like a spammer and we didn't know [ why he acted like a nuisance ]. He was in 4chan, too so the man [ who put the link in 4chan ] asked 4channelers [ what kind of person Sparky is ].
Sparky promised [ not to act like a nuisance ]. But who knows? So far so good.
Oh, by the way, I really don't like Captain Kurotsuchi and his bankai. He looks sort of gross. And his bankai? Even more gross. Eeeek. What's that ginormous baby-faced catapilear thing? lol It just is gross!!
It really was shoking that Leutenant Matsumoto was beaten up by the monster. I have no idea whether she would become the first victim of this war, though. What if she would die? What action will Ichimaru Gin take? Will he give up on her? Or he'll regain conscisness and betray Aizen? No, that would happen... But I guess he might do something to save her life like asking Aizen to use Hogyoku and heal her wounds, or something like that. What do you think? Is she left alone? I believe Captain Unohana can't make it in time. Can other members of the 4th squid cure Matsumoto? Hmm, that's hard to say..
I want to see Ichigo versus Ulquiorra sooner!! And Hirako! Of course! Vizards must avenge their past defeat!! They say they are indebed to Aizen!! I can't wait for it!!!!!!!!
I can't imagin how large Aizen's power is! He once put soul society into total mess with only his shikai - absolute hypnosis! And now all the Gotei 13 squids are being faced with a bunch of arrancars, top among them, Aizen..
From him : Japanese here are flaunting and self-content while their English is not so good as they think and they cannot do anything except English. Is he Koizumi Tuyoshi from the detention center? He stiked to declining to take a mandatory English course even though he got so so academici performance in his major and he got kicked out from the university. He couldnot understand why he had to learn English, his major being electronic engineering.
Do you think adult Nel is hot? lol I don't like the voice actress! I wished her voice were a little more deep. On the bright side, in her child form, the voice actress is best!
Good morning Native English speakers here. As you see, this thread is under a barrage of spamming. This is a part of 2ch culture. In my opinion, you can post as usual if you want as long as you don't feed the troll. If you think you don't want to get involved with this troll, then stick to your own policy.
Oh, hey, I'm sorry. I changed the topic from manga to Anime without knowing it. lol I was talking about bleach anime!! Fillers were broadcast before Nel regained her true form. Now we're at episode 197? Anyway, Kenpachi of Zaraki's come resque Ichigo now! He's going to slash Nnoitra down!! BANG!! HAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA
>>945 In English!! You can read bleach online!!! And also you can watch subbed/dubbed bleach!!! Bleach rules!! Awsome!! The winner of the tech innovation!!!!!
I am sometimes confused about who's the strongest man in Bleach. Say, Ichigo won against Kenpachi just by mastering his shikai, and even after he learned to do bankai, Ichigo was completely defeated by Grimmjow, who's the 6th strongest espada, then Ichigo had to hollowfy himself (or go Vizard) to beat up Grimmjow, and came Nnoitra's turn ; as you may know, Nnoitra is ranked 5th. That means he's stronger than Grimmjow. At the thought of it, it's natural to think Kenpachi is supposed to lose to Nnoitra. Right? But the story isn't so simple.. It's really complicated.
Oh, um, for those who are not in the know about bleach, I'll explain Shikai, Bankai, and Vizard briefly.
Every Soul reaper has thier own Zanpakuto. (shinigami sword) Each Zanpakuto has its own form. And Shikai is like the first phase of Zanpakuto. It's like "drawing half the hidden power of it. Bankai means the final form - full power. Vizard/hollowfication means like "masked soul reaper/God of death/shinigami".
>>951 You mean you're a native English speaker? I thought you're Japanese. Do you happen to be a regular native English speakers with handle name in disguise?
>>854 You're very welcome. However, all you 名無しさん (and otherwise) have been very informative in return, so thank you too.
>>484 Best make the most of your year... at least until January 26th, anyway... It's been quite a while since we've seen you around too (unless I lost track and missed your posting). You've been mentioned a few times since, so nice to see you back.
>>557 Do you do any development? If so, it might be worth contaminating your system with MultipleIE, to help with cross-browser testing.
I'm not sure what exactly troll means. A spammer who keep posting irelavant messages can be called troll? Or posters who posts false information such as "Two hours ago, Obama was assainated" is called troll?
>>954 a troll can be a spammer, but a spammer is not always a troll. a troll gets pleasure from causing disruption and feeds off emotional reaction. a spammer simply spams. but a troll may spam too. don't feed the troll
I wonder if it is sort of confusing when you hear "we can make the airport". You have never held this kind of idea like " no, I'm not a constructor! "? Just curious.
>>962 Yes, I know what the sentence means, but if I hadn't taught myself what exactly the sentence meant, I would've never thought like "we can make (it to) the airport (in time)" by reading/hearing the original sentence: we can make the airport. Instead, I would've thought " we can make the airport? You mean, we can construct the airport? No way!" or something like that. So English speakers would never make that kind of mistake. I see.
One Japanese verb 作る(つくる)cover "construct", "manufacture", "build", "make."
So when we Japanese read the sentense, "We can make the airport in time, " we think isn't it possible for the sentence to mean "We can construct the airport in time."?
He thought "we can make the airport in time" can be understood in both ways, which are "we can construct the airport in time" and "we can make it to the airport." so he wonders if "we can make the airport in time" sometimes can be misunderstood when there's no context and you see the setence alone.
>>966 Hi, firestar. I''ve got a reply from the Thousand developer's thread. Currently the search web function works only when Japanese is the primary language of OS X. The developer is now aware of the problem, so probably it'll be fixed in a future version, though I guess it's one of the least urgent things because most of users are proficient in Japanese.
Ask anything if you have any question about the browser.
>>953 Oh no! What happens on January 26th? Are we getting banned again? was my first reaction, but of course, you're talking about the Inauguration. Duh!
>>972 Do you use a chair or sit on the floor when you're at the computer, Sparky? The image quality is too awesome to see what they're supposed to look like. And maybe you should write the title of the manga you bought instead.
>>979 Somehow my computer forgot to enter my name. Maybe because I switched browsers? This is what I meant: イギリス人さん told me to enjoy my year until Jan. 26, and I assumed that 2ch was going to ban Americans again, like they did a year ago. But I think he was really referring to the Inauguration. Silly of me to forget!
Besides that, it seems that the hostile person who hates English (if I am reading his posts correctly) has gone ahead and started a new thread. He didn't even include the tea-drinking cat. How obnoxious.
>>982 >イギリス人さん told me to enjoy my year until Jan. 26,
>Best make the most of your year... What I thought when I read the イギリス人's post is that "your year" in this case means "Year of rat." So why until January 26th. Rat year ends on December 31st. Why does it last until January 26. If he doesn't mean "rat year," what does "your year" mean? What does inauguration have to do with "your year"? Maybe I'm slow but I don't really understand what he means even after I read >>982.
>the hostile person who hates English He's not hostile to English and native English speakers. He just don't like Japanese people chatting in English. He thinks talking in English is snobby. Like some American thinks people speaking French is snobby.(Maybe bad example.) Maybe he's jelous of Japanese chatter here because he can't write decent English. He insists what's the point in writing in bad unnatural English? As for a new thread, I don't think all we have to do is to make a new thread. I made this thread so I don't think I can make a new thread. Because a person who made a new thread can't make another new thread without a long interval, maybe a few months. Let's hope someone who can make a new thread will make a proper thread.
>>984 I am being really stupid tonight. No excuses! The end of the Chinese New Year is January 25th. The new year starts on January 26th. The Inauguration is on January 20, not January 26th. You are right and I am the slow one.
I completely misread his Japanese. Not surprising; I often get meanings confused and sometimes even backwards. Thank you for explaining what he meant. I think it is still worthwhile to practice a foreign language, and if I had more confidence I would try posting on a Japanese thread. But I think I have to improve my Japanese so that I don't cause misunderstandings!
>>985 Thanks. I was too lazy to search when Chinese new year ends. And correct way of saying it is "until Jan 25th" not 26th if Chinese year ends on 25th, if I'm not wrong.
>if I had more confidence I would try posting on a Japanese thread.
Wow! Go for it! ----------------
I hope someone will make a new thread......... I can't.
Hey!!! you NEETs, nerds, YouTube-link spammers, pedophiles, neo-Nazis, Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers, Part-Time-Preachers, Diplomats' spoiled sons, losers who can't remember Kanji characters, Big-boobs fans, Weeaboos from all around the world, learners of Japanese who are too lazy to update their Japanese blogs very often, and cunning linguists. And let's celebrate the comeback of the Internet-addicted housewife!
>>991 If I remember correctly, the part under the URL (from Hey, NEET... to ...have a blast!) wasn't there long long long long time ago. The part was added. I haven't participated in this thread from part1, which is obvious but I think I remember the part was added sometime in the past.
If the wording you pointed out sounds strange, I think it's better to change to sound natural. Any suggestions? You know what the sentence is supposed to mean, so you can suggest a new sentence without losing the original meaning...
I just assumed that whoever wrote that sentence in the past meant to utter a phrase you say when you are giving or showing something to someone like "here you go.", but I'm not quite sure.