みなさ〜ん。自分の日々考えていることを英語で短く書いたり、また日々チャット状態で ランダムな人とこういう場で意見を交わすのは、本当に勉強になります。 英語力がぐ〜んとアップします。この板にもChat in English はありますが、なんだか。。。かなり低俗なので、ここに新しい 真面目なスレを実験的に作りました。テーマは一番むかつく人です。 好きなように自分の意見を書いてください。反論などもできれば 英語で、でも、ま、日本語でもOKということにしておきましょう。しかし、 日本語に流れると面白くないので、できるだけ英語でね♪
OK I go first. Who do you think is the most hateful person? I would say, Judo's Inoue Kousei. He is the most miserable guy of the year. How could he retire from his life time profession that he had been dedicated all his life until today? The reason is clear, because of that stupid face Higashihara woman. He got married to that porn woman and she ruined him. or should I say he ruined himself. What a shame. He ruined my aesthetic feeling "Biishiki". He will soon or later get tired of her and after that, he will regret of what he has done. coz "judo" is only one greatest remaining of his. Without "judo" he has no self-identity.
Well, you are challenging. That's great. But without looking up a dictionary and write is too early to have such a self-confidence. Go ahead and write something about "the most hateful person" for you.
>>4 Yeah your English very great is unbelievable. I never thought such a person well English is in Japan other than me. You think my English very good too right?
>I don't think he's necessarily a hateful person because most of his attention and energy is being spent on his girlfriend. We probably have different opinions on this one, but I think that it's his life to live and no one else's. In the end, what he spends his time and energy on is his choice. If his girlfriend makes him happy and if he chooses to put her in a higher place than he does judo, then so be it. Ultimately, it's his decision.
If I remember correctly, something similar happened to Tiger Woods. I don't remember the details thought. I'm not sure if it was because he got married or because he was having marital problems. Whatever it was, he was having a hard time focusing on golf, and his performance on the green showed it.
>>22 if she was a smart pussy -> she knows who he is --> leads him better in Judo, his rank wouldn't drop and he wouldn't retire. His rank dropped after meeting her --> he retired = the pussy is not smart
No one would like to indulge in the same sexy woman for 10 years, except she was smart. The pussy = not smart
A sexy pussy plus inner attractiveness + intelligence ---> respect each other -->relationship continues
His wife=no intelligence and no respect-->Inoue gets tired of her within 4 yrs -->divorce or only ordinary life is waiting for him-->he will know Judo was his only one life time profession-->he will regret.
Do you know what's behind the Akiba rampage spree? I know "interesting" is not an appropriate word, however, this news really makes me think so deep.
I feel sorry for him because he has a miserable background. He had no job, no friend or girlfriend, no love from family. He should not be reckoned as just another insane guy, What do you think?
>>27 Generally speaking 70% of us are like him. We don't have friends, we don't have money. Some people don't have parents. IMO, he has both mother and father (he thinks there is not enough affection...well but probably from his parents side, they gave enough affection), he has somebody whom he can talk to (he doesn't recognize them as friends though), his job was not an official staff of Toyota, but his salary was good enough. He claimed that his face is ugly but I don't think so. He is cute. If he would have changed the view of the world, he would have enjoyed much better life. He was too selfish and he thought he should have been treated much better than he is actually treated. I wish he had only one person who could understand him well, then the life had changed. but remember that nobody wants to be friends with that kind of selfish guy. You have to change your selfishness if you want to have a better treats. That doesn't mean you should kiss somebody's ass.
>>28 I don't say he must be justified, but we must consider the circumstances. He had been outcast wherever he goes, and everyone thinks it's all your fault if you cannot find a proper job, but it reminds me of Marie Antoinette's saying, "if you don't have bread to eat, then eat candy".
In reality, hard-working does not always guarantee money, and yet there is not sufficient safety net for the poor but prejudice, so it seems natural to me that he held grudge against the society.
It's us who created this fucking wretched society. Akiba will now be going to close its vehicle-free promenade, and dagger blade makers stop manufacturing the knives, but it's not a critical remedy for the problem. It's about our system.
>>29 Yeah, The social system foment his grudge. And I think, when we happened to see somebody who seems like holding unsatisfactory feelings, it's not always bad to poke our nose into his private matters. I mean to talk to him and say "something wrong?" and have a talk at a coffee shop or somewhere. It is a first step to be friends. We can always save somebody who stays in the absolute edge(?) 人生のぎりぎりのところにいる人<---how do you say it in English?
Indeed, it's natural for him to hold grudge against the society, and I can feel sorry about it to some extent. But the crime he committed was extremely huge and unforgivable. And there are many people who work under poor circumstances like his.
On top of that, he had graduated the highest school in his district. His ability for work seem enough. In the long run, this fatal incident was brought by his own evil character, and not us who created this society, I assume.
>>32 Yeah. He had accumlated grudges for a long time. If he had visited 2channel, more people would have said "stop it" when he wrote the intention of mass killing but unfortunately where he wrote his emotions everyday was so unpopular site on Keitai and naturally nobody visited. or he intentionally chose that kind of place. I've heard one girl talked to him friendly on that keitai site but then she started to talk about her boyfriend who has a higher educational background. That was a bad luck too, maybe.
>>33 There are many people who work under poor circumstances like his. I know that life in Japan 50 years ago was even poorer than them, but one does not feel alone when everyone is poor. Temp workers are not only exploited but despised, isolated. There're latent candidates lining up after him, like he said.
I feel it's too cruel to attribute this incident to him alone. The number of victim is eight. It's his family that loaded a bullet, society that pulled the trigger.
umm....but he earned 200,000Yen/month. was it that bad? I don't think his circumstances were that bad...plus as I said above, life is always up to you. So he could have a girlfirnd if he changed his dark personality.
>>35 I don't think I can say 200,000 a month is good enough.
Anyway, in the criminal law, the basic concept of the responsibility lies in one's free intention. The criminals are accused because they have evil intention that make them select the illegal conducts.
The Akiba murderer seems to have normal consciousness, and so, he must have full-fledgd free intention. In a nutshell, it's he himself that loaded a bullet, and pulled the trigger.
We shouldn't pass on the responsibility to our society. The main cause of the Akiba rampage spree is his irrational belief and distorted recognition around his situation,
Every time the society went wrong, people knocked evil dictator or ruler down. French Revolution, War of Independence, Cultural Revolution, etc.
This time, Kato might have attacked wrong persons, but his power must be appreciated.
History will judge whether Kato was right or not. May God bless him!
Spectators at the site of Akiba kill were taking photos without helping victims, the scene was scary, but I guess those who killed would have done the same thing if they were alive.
It is as if an ugly-minded person killed ugly-minded people. Tomohiro Kato, the killer, was right about the target, I think.
I don't deny there are ugly-minded people esp in a big city like Tokyo, but not all of them. They just forgot what was the most precious thing and what should be done when somebody injured... And if you look at each of the victim's profile carefully, you would know how nice person he/she was. If you were one of the victim's family members, you would be so indignant over the criminal.
Indeed, there are some people taking pictures around the victims at the site, but, so many people were helping the victims conscientiously.They should be admired.
You may be right in that you guess the victims might have done the same thing as the witnesses did, but the difference between you and me is that I mourn the losses and don't defend the criminal. I don't think there's any reason for the criminal to be defended, at least outside the court.
most people in Japan are kind at first sight, but, in fact, what they think of is only the way they prevent themselves from others whenever they are asked something, for example a crime, they only make commoplace remarks this fact suggest that the common people don't have own opinion, in other words, they don't reflect anything at all
so, judges should not take a national sentiment into consideration judges should bear in mind that the common people are too ignorant to say anything
>>41 I think you are only seeing people as a mass. If you talk to each person one by one, each of us have a lot of things to say. Only education made us as an igonrant individual. Each of Japanese is much more out spoken when the situation allow us to speak out. Our intelligence is higher than average in worldwide. Only the culture made us to shut our mouthes.
Right. As we all know women are the cause of, and solution to, all of men's problems. Hateful? Hardly. He's 30 years old and wanted to retire. Nice work if you can get it. If you want someone to hate, choose Kim Jong-Il.
>>3 This post is deliciously Japanese. Apparently y'all haven't gotten accustomed to the reality that sports stars are often idiots. Should I start talking about the antics of NFL players?
It's not somebody but bug. I hate the most is cockroach. Few days ago, I screamed when I saw a big one in a kitchen. so I set the gokiburihoihoi, next morning. when I saw it inside the drawer, 3 big cockroaches were trapped. How nice! but I assume there are at least 30 of them still crawling somewhere....
>>42 They say the murderer Kato was totally isolated, and the situation made him go mad. But it's nothing more than a self-centered excuse. Everybody is inevitably alone. We must stand the fate.
>>54 He was always trying not to be too friendly with others to avoid exposing his true nature, which I think made him feel even more that he was isolated. He has no one but himself to blame.
the crime kato ccommitted in Akiba is very evil and could not allowed however we have no right to give death penalty to him if you hope for death penalty, you are not different from murder, no matter how many grude you have retaliation could not be admitted, regardless of any reason
>>56 you say we should "abolish capital punishment"? but how does he compensate for the bereft families? their grudge towards Kato is infinite. maybe we should think about the most cruel penalty, the ultimate suffering which is much more than death to that kind of crminal.