Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 109

>>872
Die with 本玉儿

>>874
A Hey, Darren!
B Trevor. How's it going?
A Pretty good. Really good actually.
B Yeah?
A Yeah, yeah, I just got this new car wax for my car. It's amazing.
B Oh, that's really cool.

>>876
How come I have to die when I spread the real music to netizens?
Gimme a break.

Fist of all, Americans with suits and ties
are refresing to me.
They are too neat for americans.
Americans have more sloppy and loose
wearing style image. I think or know that's
biased. But too strong impression for me.

And they look good and stylish, different from japanese 'salary man'. I don't know how
americans see them. They may look average
or not special from americans. But white
people with suits and ties look good from japanese.
It's not good but some illusion here in japan.

Skit itself is very impressive but somewhat
leave bad taste on me. Vulgar gag aside,
another factor made me feel blue.
For me america is
very stressful society. They have to do
party(graduation party is famous) and make themselves look wear happy
smile. Men have to be muscline like football
players and girs have to be sexy like cheer leaders.
Too much peer pressure.
They look very artificial and overly from me.Americans must go to graduation party?
Peope who don't go to that one are loser?
I learned even Jeffrey Dahmer had gone to that one
and failure left bad memory in him.
I prefer British comedy, which is more dark humored.

>>877
>>875
>>871
Thank you very much.

It may be like Crossing leg look suggestive and arrogant from japanese
while it is pretty ordinary from american.

>>879
Please don't attempt to write commentary on a society you don't know very much about...

ttp://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=6EDJ3Ns-4_A&feature=related

Before you call it a night or start a new day, this is the song for you.

same ole shit, nothing fresh. overused, simply dull

>>882
Yes. I want to draw real responses from real american.
And I half admit I am biased. I am curious.
How about graduation party?

>>885
Talking about high school graduation? What about it?
Kids throw parties all the time, for all kinds of reasons.

>>882
It appears to me that car wax man is not cool and loser(lonely otaku)
and party man is a typical winner.
In japan having a party is not so common. Karaoke or nomikai(drinking at
bar) is more common.

>>886
I presumed that highschool graduates go to a party
with dresses and Tuxedos and have to find someone to dance with.

Cheer leading is a typical american culture, right?
All girls are dreaming of becoming one? At least they
are winner?
Typical or not. They look very noisy and annoying.
overly acting. They are fun for eyes though..

And I always wonder cheer leading touch the line of
feminism or gender equality. They are so groveling to men...
It's strange cos America is the home land of women's right,
Feminist won't stir controversy about cheer leaders?

Don't think it so hard.
It's a girly thing.

Don't Feminists with glasses get angry about them?

Cheer leaders are as hot as girls with glasses on. So it's okay.

>>887
I don't think that's the point of the skit... At least that's not what I get out of it.
I mean sure the guy is portrayed as kind of a car-freak and not interested in girls/parties, but it's hilarious because he's doing that gesture wrong.
It's funny that he's doing it so weirdly, you're not really laughing at him because he's a loser but because he's making the gesture in such an odd way.

>>888
Ah, you're talking about prom. I didn't go to prom, although I went to what we call the "afterparty" with my friends.

All girls definitely do not dream of becoming cheerleaders. There's a stereotype that cheerleaders are pretty, stupid sluts.
Cheerleaders are the butts of a lot of jokes (meaning we make fun of them), and they don't get much respect from a lot of people.
But of course most of them are pretty, so they get a lot of attention from certain other girls and guys. Like you said, "fun for the eyes."
Are they "winners"? Depends on who you ask. Some girls probably wish they were thin and pretty and could be a cheerleader. I think most of us just don't give a fuck.
In America, most of us are concerned with doing our own thing. We don't really care too much what anyone else is doing, as long as it doesn't get in our way.
Then again, I've grown up surrounded by certain kinds of people: the smart, cynical, more independent kind.
There's probably a lot of very stupid young people (girls and guys both) out there, who don't really think for themselves and just follow the crowd.
But I never personally hung out with them, so I don't know.

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>>892
About cheerleading and feminism, America is full of controversies.
Some people might say cheerleading is degrading to women. Others might say it's "empowering," because they're expressing their freedom and sexuality or some other bullshit.
In the end, they're doing what they want to do. If the girls want to dress that way to get men's attention, it's their choice. Who can tell them otherwise?

Cheerleading is recognized as a sport, pretty hard one, that is.
I guess some are just chacing butts of footballers but some are
serious about cheerleading as a sport.

I'v never spent my high school days as an exchange student in US or
anything, I don't have hands on experiences though.

One thing I don't get it is about cheerleaders of NFL. You have to
go through tough try-out prosess to be NFL's cheerleaders but compared to
salaries of pro NFL players, their salary is less than nothing.

As fat as I know, there were two Japanese cheerlearders of NFL so far.
They are both of San Francisco 49ers. I heard their salary was 5000yen,
about 50 dollars an hour. Maybge I am worng about ht number. I heard the story a long time
ago.

Some women in cheerleading seem to be liquidating their womanhood.
That is not very different from pimping themselves, I guess. And sometimes they say they are simply pursuing their happiness in their own way. Well, it's beyond me. But again, it's their call. I just say, "Whatever."

Holy shit.

It seems like there was 10 NFL chearleadrs so far.
The half bottom of this page, you can see their pics.
http://209.85.175.104/search?q=cache:8-OzR0lL2sMJ:www.nfljapan.co.jp/cheer/cheerleaders/index.html+%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%80%E3%83%81%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC%E3%80%80NFL&hl=ja&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=jp&lr=lang_ja

>>it's their call
what does it mean?

>>897
it's their decision (to make)

>>897
I'm not 895 but it means "it's their decision."

>>898
uho!

nice guy...

>>896
日本人チアリーダーってバカみたい
slut

Don't be jealous. They are smoking hot.

I like 安田愛 most of all Japanese cheerleaders in the past.

>>903
Eh honestly, the American ones are way hotter. Asian chicks don't make good cheerleaders IMO.

You just don't have an eye for cheerleaders. We're sick and tired of the typical ones.
I want to see new types.

South America and Europe have the best I've seen by far.

>>Japanese cheerleaders
Why do they ape yanks and get high?

Huh? They are just cheerleaders. Don't be so selfconscious.

Japanese cheerleading culture is less matured than that of Ameican.
After all it was imported to Japan. Not many high school in Japan
don't have a cheerleading club so when there's a sport event such as baseball
touenament, sometimes students who want to be a chearleader only on
that occasion become chearleaders.

Baseball was inported to Japan about 150 years ago? but
Japan won the World Baseball Classic held for the first time two years
ago and proved the it's the most strongest baseball team among USA and
Cuba, Korea and others, so who knows? Maybe in 22 century, Japanese
chearleading can be the best in the world.

>>Maybe in 22 century
That's a long time to wait

it is ok. I have time machine!

Figure matters.
Japanese cheer leaders won't catch up with americans.
They are so detrimental in figure, short legs, flat chest,
thick legs..
And exaggerated expression on face and yelling are american culture.
won't fit in with japanese.

You sound like a person with Caucasian fetish.

>portrayed as kind of a car-freak and not interested in girls/parties
Refreshing and interesting idea.

>he's doing that gesture wrong.
It's funny that he's doing it so weirdly, you're not really laughing at him because he's a loser but because he's making the gesture in such an odd way.


Also interesting.. I thoght car mania guy made a
masturbation gesture for a revenge.
The taller guy made a up and down gesture first.
I thought it was a cynicsm for the car mania.
I thought the taller guy intended to make fun of him
because car washing is as self-content as masturbating and nerdy. And shorter looks
hurt. So He made a masturbating gesture to
annoy him as a revenge. Is it tottaly
false belief of me?


Why did taller guy made a up-and-down gesture?
What did it mean?
>because he's making the gesture in such an odd way.
What did he try to expres in a gesture?

>>892
Are you 米人？

>>915
So if you make that "masturbating" gesture while someone's talking excitedly about something,
it means you think the other person is just babbling, and you're not interested in what they have to say.
You think they're just talking for their own benefit, kind of like how you masturbate for your own pleasure.
So you're right about the "revenge" thing. The first guy did it because he didn't give a shit about the other guy's car.
The other guy did it to "get back" at the first guy, basically saying, "Well I don't care about your party, either!" (But he does the gesture so weirdly, it's hilarious.)

>>916
Yup.

DO you fack with me?I am still virgin.

>>916
I think he/she is from US but not the housewife who used the handle name,米人.

>>919
Ah yeah, I never used a handle^^ I just meant I'm American.

>>917
Hmm. I thought shorter guy was depicted as geek and creepy guy
while taller one as out-going and positive.
I was too ignorant or thought too much..

Just none of my business matter.

>>921
Eh, that was definitely part of the skit too, I think.
But just about any character making that funny gesture would have been, well, funny.

The other guy did it to "get back" at the first guy, basically saying, "Well I don't care about your party, either!"

I think I missed this point. again I watched the video.
I think I could grasp the atmosphere more clearly this time.

Feelings of the first guy get more close to me.
sulking and angry.

But isn't he too vindictive for american.
I am the one prone to easily get hurt and hold the grudge.
I'm japanese.

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