>>977 I was kind of foolish at the time to drop out of highschool. But I don't regret it at all. If hadn't dropped out of Highschool I probably wouldn't have met my friend who first invited me to come to Japan which means that basically I wouldn't have started studying Japanese and be where I am today.
>>973 It all depends on how much time you spent studying Japanese. After I listened to your Japanese, I have decided that what I said about your Japanese is not wrong. Your Japanese is certainly much worse than that of my friend who mastered Japanese in 3-4 years. Your pronunciation is certainly good, but there are still mistakes. You do not seem to know the difference between "goman" meaning 50,000 and "gohman" meaning "arrogant." That is a typical mistake made by Americans. My friend's Japanese pronunciation is literally perfect. No. More than perfect. There is nothing unnatural about his Japanese in any conceivable respect. He can score as high on any Japansese test as any intelligent native Japanese speaker. You can never do that, right? I mean, you can't at your current level. But of course, I want you to try to master Japanese just like my friend actually did. It is always nice to have a goal that someone else has actually reached.
One more thing: your problem with Japanese largely stems from insufficient learning of the language and a lack of phonetic training by a phonetician or a highly experienced teacher who knows a lot about phonetics.
As for English, your pronunciation is certainly at the native-speaker level, but I do not like your pronunciation. Personally I never want topronounce English like that. It is too vulgar. You may feel like saying that your English and English pronunciation are perfect when you are talking to Japanse learners of English, but I believe you cannot sayit to native English speakers. Right? If you can, you're certainly out of your mind.
Overall, there is a possibility that you may become a good language learner. So try hard and never give up. And you should study English more too.
But one strange thing about you is that you have used textbooks written for native Japanse speakers. Why did you do it? Who advised you to do it? That is certainly "unnatural."
I guess it was your Japanse girfriend, right? And she taught Japanese, using those textbooks. Isn't that right?
You're certainly an arrogant individual. Are you just trying to flame and insult me here for fun or what? I don't really care about your friend who apparently mastered Japanese in 3-4 years. That's great for him, but I don't see what that has to do with me? I haven't claimed that my pronounciation is great or anything, but it certainly isn't terrible in any regards. I do know the difference between ごまん and ごうまん but when I uploaded those voice files I was sleepy and besides I was talking into a microphone, of course my voice is going to change somewhat and sound a bit muffled. As for my english pronounciation, that's just the normal way I speak, if I force myself I can make my pronounciation near perfect of course. However, when I talk with other Americans it's natural to slur my speech somewhat because other native speakers can understand without any problem. I could make my pronounciation very clear if you want to. I might make another file tonight just to show this to you. As for my girlfriend, yes she is Japanese (from 兵庫県). However, no, she did not teach me Japanese using the textbooks that I mentioned. When I study Japanese using books I study it alone. She did however help me immensely by talking with me all the time like all my other Japanese friends here do. No one ever has taught me Japanese in a lesson form.
I don't see why you're so bitter of me, and why you constantly feel the need to compare me to your American friend who is a virtual god of the Japanese language. By the way, who is this person? He must be doing some pretty amazing work to be that good. Even Thane Camus (セイン・カミュ),albeit extremely rarely, has weird sounding Japanese and he pretty much grew up in Japan.
>>983 I am not arrogant at all, and I am not insulting you at all. It is just you are too young if you think that way.
When I wrote your Japanese girlfriend taught Japanese, I meant she taught you when you had a problem with your textbooks. I suspect she taught you when you had a problem with the manga and books you read.
I have good intentions, and I am just helping you. That's all. Please keep it in mind. That's why I used a "trip" here.
Perhaps later in your life, you will find people like me are actually most helpful.
>>983 >He must be doing some pretty amazing work to be that good.
His teachers and native Japanese friends taught him Japanese leterally all day and corrected his Japanese all the time. His teachers were top-notch teachers that can be found very, very rarely. Probably they are among the best in the world. They admit that he is an exceptional student because he started learning Japanese at the age of 13.
Having top-notch teachers teach you is really good. And having someone correct your foreign language is very good too. You would be one of the luckiest lanugage learners in the world if you had both.
>>985 Ok then, I apologize for my tone. I appreciate your suggestions of course, I just misunderstood your intentions is all. Actually I don't ask many questions when I don't understand something in Japanese. Like I said a bit earlier in this thread, I have a pretty good electronic dictionary so I always look up things that I hear or read and don't immediately recognize or understand. If it's not in my dictionary I usually just go on the internet and do a search on the term and look at the various webpages that come up to see the context in which the word is used. If I still don't understand then I will ask a friend but that's a very last resort usually.
Anyways, thanks for the advice. I realize that I am still young so sometimes I lose my cool, but I do appreciate your suggestions.
君、端から見てても傲慢にみえるよ。 >You may feel like saying that your English and English pronunciation >are perfect when you are talking to Japanse learners of English, >but I believe you cannot sayit to native English speakers. Right? >If you can, you're certainly out of your mind. これが傲慢で侮辱的でなくて何なんだい?
>but I do not like your pronunciation. Personally I never want to >pronounce English like that. It is too vulgar. これも酷いな。お前が彼の発音を好きか、あるいはvulgarと思うかなんて どうでもいいだろ? 日本語なら方言を話す香具師を毛嫌いする東京人がたまにいるが そういうタイプか?