【元海外】カズ城ジョン禿屁鱸統一スレ【実力派FW】
つーか、縦横の表にすればいいんじゃないか?
ちょっと見づらいぞ。
柳沢の24歳時は12得点だと思う。でないと計算が合わない。
城 久保 柳沢 高原 大久保
【19】 12 【19】-- 【19】5 【19】5 【19】--
【20】 9 【20】2 【20】8 【20】9 【20】18(J2)
【21】 12 【21】7 【21】22 【21】10 【21】16
【22】 25 【22】12 【22】9 【22】8(J) /1(アル) 【22】4(暫定)/
【23】 18 【23】13 【23】6 【23】26
【24】 2(スペ)/2(J) 【24】11 【24】12 【24】3(独)/2(独)
【25】 2 【25】15 【25】7 【25】0(独) /
【26】7 【26】2(J)/0(伊)
【27】16 【27】0(伊)/
【28】3(暫定)/
age.............城..................................久保.................. 柳沢............................... 高原................................... 大久保.......age.
【19】...........2....................................-- ........................5........................................5............................................-- ................【19】.
【20】............9.....................................2...........................8.......................................9........................................18(J2)..........【20】.
【21】...........12...................................7...........................22.....................................10.......................................16.....................【21】..
【22】...........25....................................12.........................9.....................................8(J) /1(アル)...........4(暫定)/..【22】.
【23】..........18................................. 13..........................6.......................................26..................................................................【23】.
【24】..2(スペ)/2(J)11.......12....................... 12...................................3(独)/2(独)..........................................【24】..
【25】..............2.................................15.........................7.....................................0(独) /......................................................【25】.
【26】....................................................7................. 2(J)/0(伊).......................................................................................【26】..
【27】...................................................16.......................0.(伊)/ ................................................................................................【27】
【28】...................................................3(暫定)/ ........................................................................................................................【28】
age.............城..................................久保.................. 柳沢............................... 高原................................... 大久保.......age.
【19】...........2....................................-- ........................5........................................5............................................-- ................【19】
【20】............9.....................................2...........................8.......................................9........................................18(J2)..........【20】
【21】...........12...................................7...........................22.....................................10.......................................16.....................【21】
【22】...........25....................................12.........................9.....................................8(J) /1(アル)...........4(暫定)/..【22】
【23】..........18................................. 13..........................6.......................................26..................................................................【23】
【24】..2(スペ)/2(J)11.......12....................... 12...................................3(独)/2(独)..........................................【24】
【25】..............2.................................15.........................7.....................................0(独) /......................................................【25】
【26】....................................................7................. 2(J)/0(伊)...........................................................................................【26】
【27】...................................................16.......................0.(伊)/ ................................................................................................【27】
【28】...................................................3(暫定)/ ........................................................................................................................【28】
age.............城..................................久保.................. 柳沢............................... 高原................................... 大久保.......age.
【19】...........2....................................-- ........................5........................................5............................................-- ................【19】
【20】............9.....................................2...........................8.......................................9........................................18(J2)..........【20】
【21】...........12...................................7...........................22.....................................10.......................................16.....................【21】
【22】...........25....................................12.........................9.....................................8(J) /1(アル)...........4(暫定)/..【22】
【23】..........18................................. 13..........................6.......................................26..................................................................【23】
【24】..2(スペ)/2(J)..............11..................... 12...................................3(独)/2(独)..............................................【24】
【25】..............2.................................15.........................7.....................................0(独) /......................................................【25】
【26】....................................................7................. 2(J)/0(伊)...........................................................................................【26】
【27】...................................................16.......................0.(伊)/ ................................................................................................【27】
【28】...................................................3(暫定)/ ........................................................................................................................【28】
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名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:04/06/13 18:56 ID:lhKUOcAU
age.............城..............................西澤.....................................久保.................. 柳沢............................... 高原................................... 大久保.......age.
【19】...........2...............................?................................................-- ........................5........................................5............................................-- ................【19】
【20】............9.............................3.................................................2...........................8.......................................9........................................18(J2)..........【20】
【21】...........12.............................7................................................7...........................22.....................................10.......................................16.....................【21】
【22】...........25.............................7...............................................12...........................9.....................................8(J) /1(アル)...........4(暫定)/..【22】
【23】..........18.............................10............................................ 13..........................6.......................................26..................................................................【23】
【24】..2(スペ)/2(J)........15..............................................11....................... 12...................................3(独)/2(独)..............................................【24】
【25】..............2..................0(スペ)(英)...............................15.........................7.....................................0(独) /......................................................【25】
【26】......................................?(J2)..........................................7............... 2(J)/0(伊)................................................................................................【26】
【27】............................................7.................................................16.......................0.(伊)/ ................................................................................................【27】
【28】.............................................3(暫定)/ ........................3(暫定)/ ........................................................................................................................【28】
西澤も、わかるところだけ入れてみた。
19才(1995年)、26才(2002年J2)が不明。
88 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:04/06/13 19:17 ID:HAyFP8A2
鱸いれなきゃグラフの意味が無いw
age.............城..............................西澤.....................................久保.................. 柳沢............................... 高原................................... 大久保.......age.
【19】...........2..............................--..............................................-- ........................5........................................5............................................-- ................【19】
【20】............9.............................3.................................................2...........................8.......................................9........................................18(J2)..........【20】
【21】...........12.............................7................................................7...........................22.....................................10.......................................16.....................【21】
【22】...........25.............................7...............................................12...........................9.....................................8(J) /1(アル)...........4(暫定)/..【22】
【23】..........18.............................10............................................ 13..........................6.......................................26..................................................................【23】
【24】..2(スペ)/2(J)........15..............................................11....................... 12...................................3(独)/2(独)..............................................【24】
【25】..............2..................0(スペ)(英)...............................15.........................7.....................................0(独) /......................................................【25】
【26】......................................8(J2)..........................................7............... 2(J)/0(伊)................................................................................................【26】
【27】............................................7.................................................16.......................0.(伊)/ ................................................................................................【27】
【28】.............................................4(暫定)/ ........................3(暫定)/ ........................................................................................................................【28】
90 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:04/06/13 19:51 ID:B/wjujG0
ってかこのスレ的には、久保・大久保を入れないで鱸を入れるべきなんだが
91 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:04/06/13 20:19 ID:HAyFP8A2
age.............城..............................西澤.......................久保.................. 柳沢......................... 高原......................... 大久保...............age.
【19】...........2..................................--..............................-- .........................5...................................5....................................-- ...................【19】
【20】...........9...................................3................................2............................8...................................9....................................18(J2)..........【20】
【21】..........12.................................7.................................7...........................22.................................10...................................16.....................【21】
【22】..........25.................................7................................12...........................9.......................8(J) /1(アル)..........4(暫定)/.........【22】
【23】..........18.................................10............................ 13...........................6..................................26..............................................................【23】
【24】..2(スペ)/2(J)...........15...............................11........................ 12....................3(独)/2(独)...............................................【24】
【25】...........2........................0(スペ)(英)................15...........................7............................0(独) /.....................................................【25】
【26】.............................................8(J2)..........................7............... 2(J)/0(伊).....................................................................................【26】
【27】.................................................7.................................16....................0.(伊)/ ..........................................................................................【27】
【28】........................................4(暫定)/ ..........3(暫定)/ ........................................................................................................................【28】
荒らしUZEEEE
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>>91 大久保は今までのところ、城を上まわるハイペースだけど、今年はちょっと無理かな。
今年はこれから代表の負担が多いだろうからなあ。
このクラスだと、代表にさほど日程とられず、海外移籍で調子狂わす事もなければ、
Jではもっと点取れていると思う。
Jの外人FWと比較すると成績は落ちるけど、やつらはJだけに専念できてるやつが
多いし。
age.............城..............................西澤.......................久保.................. 柳沢......................... 高原......................... 大久保...............age.
【19】...........2..................................--..............................-- .........................5...................................5....................................-- ...................【19】
【20】...........9...................................3................................2............................8...................................9....................................18(J2)..........【20】
【21】..........12.................................7.................................7...........................22.................................10...................................16.....................【21】
【22】..........25.................................7................................12...........................9.......................8(J) /1(アル)..........5(暫定)/.........【22】
【23】..........18.................................10............................ 13...........................6..................................26..............................................................【23】
【24】..2(スペ)/2(J)...........15...............................11........................ 12....................3(独)/2(独)...............................................【24】
【25】...........2........................0(スペ)(英)................15...........................7............................0(独) /.....................................................【25】
【26】.............................................8(J2)..........................7............... 2(J)/0(伊).....................................................................................【26】
【27】.................................................7.................................16....................0.(伊)/ ..........................................................................................【27】
【28】........................................4(暫定)/ ..........3(暫定)/ ........................................................................................................................【28】
城彰二
ジェフ市原(1994-1996)〜横浜マリノス(1997-1999)〜Real valladolid(2000)〜
横浜マリノス(2000-2001)〜ヴィッセル神戸(2002)〜横浜FC(2003-)
** 個人成績(リーグ戦のみ) **
出場試合数(得点数) 得点ランキング
1994年 33(12) 18位
1995年 43(14) 24位
1996年 23(9) 17位
1997年 21(12) 13位
1998年 31(25) 2位
1999年 25(18) 2位
2000年 15(2) ?位(Spain)
2000年 4(2) 88位
2001年 25(2) 99位
2002年 25(1) ?位
2003年 33(12) 9位
Jリーグ通算 263試合出場 107得点 得点ランキング3位
得点数
age.............城..........................久保................... 柳沢...................... 高原..................... 大久保.......age
【19】..........12............................-- ............................5..............................5................................2.............【19】
【20】..........14...............................2.............................8...............................9.............................18(J2)....【20】
【21】.............9...............................7...........................22............................10.............................16.............【21】
【22】..........12.............................12.............................9....................8(J)/1(アル)..........4(暫定)/.....【22】
【23】..........25.............................13.............................6.............................26...............................................【23】
【24】..........18.............................11...........................12.....................3(独)/2(独)..................................【24】
【25】..2(スペ)/2(J)................15..............................7.....................0(独)/............................................【25】
【26】.............2...............................7.................. 2(J)/0(伊).......................................................................【26】
【27】.............1............................16.........................0(伊)/...........................................................................【27】
【28】....................................3(暫定)/............................................................................................................【28】
【計】..........95............................86...........................71............................58..............................22.............【計】
出場試合数
age.............城..........................久保................... 柳沢...................... 高原...................... 大久保.......age
【19】..........33................................0............................8.............................20..............................20.............【19】
【20】..........43.............................22...........................25............................21..............................29(J2)....【20】
【21】..........23.............................22...........................32............................24..............................24.............【21】
【22】..........21.............................32...........................26............................13..............................11.............【22】
【23】..........31.............................25...........................26............................27................................................【23】
【24】..........25.............................24...........................26..................................................................................【24】
【25】.............6............................30............................27..................................................................................【25】
【26】..........25.............................28.............................8...................................................................................【26】
【27】..........24.............................25...................................................................................................................【27】
【28】............................................11...................................................................................................................【28】
【計】........231...........................219.........................178..........................105............................55.............【計】
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名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:04/06/20 11:42 ID:rMAGWros
age.............城..............................西澤.......................久保.................. 柳沢......................... 高原......................... 大久保...............age.
【19】...........12..............................--..............................-- ............................5...................................5....................................-- ...................【19】
【20】............14...............................3................................2............................8...................................9....................................18(J2)..........【20】
【21】...........9.................................7.................................7...........................22.................................10...................................16.....................【21】
【22】............12..............................7................................12...........................9.......................8(J) /1(アル)..........5(暫定)/.........【22】
【23】............25..............................10............................ 13...........................6..................................26..............................................................【23】
【24】............18..............................15...............................11........................ 12....................3(独)/2(独)...............................................【24】
【25】.2(スペ)/2(J).......0(スペ)(英)................15...........................7............................0(独) /.....................................................【25】
【26】...........2.................................8(J2)..........................7............... 2(J)/0(伊).................................................................................【26】
【27】...........1.................................7.................................16....................0.(伊)/ ..........................................................................................【27】
【28】...........12(J2)...................4(暫定)/ ..........3(暫定)/ ..................................................................................................................【28】
【29】...3(暫定)/....................................................................................................................................................................................................【29】
age.....................城..............................西澤.......................久保.................. 柳沢......................... 高原................................ 大久保...............age
数字は、得点数(得点ランキング順位) ランキングは21位以下は省略
【19】...........12......................................--..............................-- ............................5...................................5....................................-- ..................................【19】
【20】............14......................................3................................2............................8...................................9(16).........................18(2)(J2)...................【20】
【21】...........9(17)...............................7.................................7...........................22(3).........................10(13)........................16(5)...............................【21】
【22】............12(13)............................7..........................12(20)......................9(16)...................8(J) /1(アル)...........5(暫定)/.................【22】
【23】............25(2).............................10(11)................. 13(4)......................6..................................26(1).......................................................................【23】
【24】............18(2).........................15(7).........................11(11).................. 12(9)....................3(独)/2(独).......................................................【24】
【25】.2(スペ)/2(J).............0(スペ)(英)................15(7)......................7(19)............................0(独) /........................................................【25】
【26】...........2.................................8(20)(J2)................7(19)............... 2(J)/0(伊).............................................................................................【26】
【27】...........1.......................................7.................................16(5)....................0.(伊)/ .................................................................................................【27】
【28】...........12(9)(J2)...................4(暫定)/ ..........3(暫定)/ .............................................................................................................................【28】
【29】...3(暫定)/.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................【29】
age.....................城..............................西澤.......................久保.................. 柳沢......................... 高原................................ 大久保...............age
数字は、得点数(得点ランキング順位) ランキングは21位以下は省略
【19】...........12(18)...........................--..............................-- ............................5...................................5....................................-- ...............【19】
【20】............14......................................3................................2............................8...................................9(16).........................18(2)(J2)..【20】
【21】...........9(17)...............................7.................................7...........................22(3).........................10(13)........................16(5)...............【21】
【22】............12(13)............................7..........................12(20)......................9(16)...................8(J) /1(アル)...........5(暫定)/....【22】
【23】............25(2).............................10(11)................. 13(4)......................6..................................26(1)..................【23】
【24】............18(2).........................15(7).........................11(11).................. 12(9)....................3(独)/2(独)...【24】
【25】.2(スペ)/2(J).............0(スペ)(英)................15(7)......................7(19)............................0(独) /.【25】
【26】...........2.................................8(20)(J2)................7(19)............... 2(J)/0(伊)【26】
【27】...........1.......................................7.................................16(5)....................0.(伊)/...【27】
【28】...........12(9)(J2)...................4(暫定)/ ..........3(暫定)/ .【28】
【29】...3(暫定)/..【29】
age.....................城..............................西澤.......................久保.................. 柳沢......................... 高原................................ 大久保...............age
数字は、得点数(得点ランキング順位) ランキングは21位以下は省略
【19】...........12(18)...........................--..............................-- ............................5...................................5....................................-- ...............【19】
【20】............14......................................3................................2............................8...................................9(16).........................18(2)(J2)..【20】
【21】...........9(17)...............................7.................................7...........................22(3).........................10(13)........................16(5)...............【21】
【22】............12(13)............................7..........................12(20)......................9(16)...................8(J) /1(アル)...........5(暫定)/....【22】
【23】............25(2).............................10(11)................. 13(4)......................6..................................26(1)........................................................【23】
【24】............18(2).........................15(7).........................11(11).................. 12(9)....................3(独)/2(独).........................................【24】
【25】.2(スペ)/2(J).............0(スペ)(英)................15(7)......................7(19)............................0(独) ...............................................【25】
【26】...........2.................................8(20)(J2)................7(19)............... 2(J)/0(伊)...............................................................................【26】
【27】...........1.......................................7.................................16(5)....................0.(伊)/.......................................................................................【27】
【28】...........12(9)(J2).............4(暫定)/ ...................3(暫定)/................................................................................................................【28】
【29】...3(暫定)/.....【29】
19才〜24才までの城(6年間) と
22才〜の久保が、安定感があって最強だな
【age】........中山.........................城........................西澤...................久保.............. 柳沢................. 高原................................ 大久保.....【age】
数字は、得点数(得点ランキング順位) ランキングは21位以下は省略
【19】..................................12(18)......................--...........................-- ....................5.............................5................................-- .................
【20】........................................14...........................3.............................2.......................8.............................9(16)....................18(2)(J2).
【21】....................................9(17).......................7.............................7......................22(3)...................10(13)....................16(5)..............
【22】..................................12(13).......................7..........................12(20)................9(16).......8(J) /1(アル).......5(暫定)/【22】
【23】..................................25(2)........................10(11).............. 13(4)...................6..........................26(1)....................
【24】..................................18(2).......................15(7)....................11(11)........... 12(9)............3(独)/2(独)......
【25】..........................2(スペ)/2(J)........0(スペ)(英)..........15(7).................7(19)............0(独)/【25】
【26】.....................................2..............................8(20)(J2).........7(19)...... 2(J)/0(伊).
【27】........3.........................1..............................7.............................16(5).............0.(伊)/【27】
【28】.......18(13)........12(9)(J2)........4(暫定)/ ...........3(暫定)/.【28】
【29】.......9(17)...........3(暫定)/【29】
【30】......18(8)..............
【31】.......36(1)...........
【32】.......6....................
【33】.......20(1)...........
【34】.......16.(6)..........
【35】.......16(5)...........
【36】.......3....................
【37】.......2(暫定)/【37】
104 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:04/06/22 06:56 ID:MmtKz6Nr
どうしてだれも表に鱸を入れないの?
105 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:04/06/22 08:14 ID:m7NQyqTL
>>104 鱸はDFWという新しいポジションを確立したので
偉大すぎて比較できない。別格。
鈴木の貢献度はこの表じゃ語れないのです。だって得点が(ry
107 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:04/06/22 08:20 ID:vUd5EQin
>>105 日本代表でDFWを確率したのは城だろ?なめんな
城はいちおう得点力がくさるほどあった時期もありましたからねえ。
ポストは誰かさんとは比べ物にならないほどうまかったし
109 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:04/06/22 08:42 ID:MmtKz6Nr
つーかだれも鱸の得点データ知らないんでしょ?
J
【age】.........鈴木
【19】.........--
【20】.........0
【21】.........--
【22】.........1
【23】.........0
【24】.........2
【25】.........6
【26】.........0
【27】.........0
こんなの入れてどうするの?
ひどすぎる・・・
>>110 マジでなんで代表に選ばれたのかすら分からん。
ほんとに運だけだな。
そろそろ本格的に消えて欲しい。
115 :
114:04/06/23 18:01 ID:zcJdQ778
【age】........中山.........................城........................西澤...................久保.............. 柳沢................. 高原................................ 大久保.....【age】
数字は、得点数(得点ランキング順位) ランキングは21位以下は省略
【19】..................................12(18)......................--...........................-- ....................5.............................5................................-- .................
【20】........................................14...........................3.............................2.......................8.............................9(16)....................18(2)(J2).
【21】....................................9(17).......................7.............................7......................22(3)...................10(13)....................16(5)..............
【22】..................................12(13).......................7..........................12(20)................9(16).......8(J) /1(アル).......5(暫定)/【22】
【23】..................................25(2)........................10(11).............. 13(4)...................6..........................26(1)....................
【24】..................................18(2).......................15(7)....................11(11)........... 12(9)............3(独)/2(独)......
【25】..........................2(スペ)/2(J)........0(スペ)(英)..........15(7).................7(19)............0(独)/【25】
【26】.....................................2..............................8(20)(J2).........7(19)...... 2(J)/0(伊).
【27】........3.........................1..............................7.............................16(5).............0.(伊)/【27】
【28】.......18(13)........12(9)(J2)........4(暫定)/ ...........3(暫定)/.【28】
【29】.......9(17)...........3(暫定)/【29】
【30】......18(8)..............
【31】.......36(1)...........
【32】.......6....................
【33】.......20(1)...........
【34】.......16.(6)..........
【35】.......16(5)...........
【36】.......3....................
【37】.......2(暫定)/【37】
【J1合計】...147...............95..............................53.....................86..........................71...........................58...................................21.........................
今年中に、城は久保に抜かれちまいそうだな。久保が3位に浮上する日も近い。
http://park15.wakwak.com/~gya-suka/j/j_index.htm
良スレ、ageとくw
118 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:04/06/24 18:51 ID:efCcBfTt
良スレageとくw
ヤナギはメッシーナでプレーするみたいだな
敢えて茨の道を選んだヤナギに幸あれ!!
age.............城..........................久保.....................鈴木.....................西澤..................柳沢...................... 高原................... 大久保........age
【19】..........12............................--...........................--..........................--.........................5...............................5................................2.............【19】
【20】..........14...............................2............................0.............................3..........................8...............................9.............................18(J2)....【20】
【21】.............9...............................7...........................--...........................7........................22............................10.............................16.............【21】
【22】..........12.............................12............................1............................7..........................9....................8(J)/1(アル)..........5(暫定)/.....【22】
【23】..........25.............................13............................0..........................11..........................6............................26.............................--.............【23】
【24】..........18.............................11............................2..........................15........................12.....................3(独)/2(独)...............--..............【24】
【25】..2(スペ)/2(J)................15.............................6................0(スペ)/0(英).............7.....................0(独)/.........................--..............【25】
【26】............2................................7................0(J)/0(ベル)...........8(J2)................2(J)/0(伊)...............--.............................--..............【26】
【27】............1.............................16................0(ベル)/2(ベル)............7..................0(伊)/.........................--.............................--..............【27】
【28】..........12(J2)...........3(暫定)/...........3(ベル)/.................4(暫定)/................--............................--.............................--..............【28】
【29】..........3(J2)(暫定)/.....--............................--.........................--.......................--............................--.............................--.............【29】
【J1】..........95............................86.............................9..........................54.......................71............................58.............................23.............【J1】
【J2】..........15............................--............................--...........................8.......................--............................--.............................18.............【J2】
【海】............2.............................--.............................5.............................0.........................0..............................6..............................--..............【海】
>>115 4位のバルデスとオリバが無性に懐かしい
>>120 鱸のブラジル時代の点もわかるヤツおらんの?
>>123 97年21試合7得点7アシスト
リオデジャネイロ州の3部リーグで
99年は怪我で無得点?
ほしゅ
126 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:04/07/09 15:38 ID:oWzlKMed
ほ
こんなスレまだあったか