【自動車】トヨタ、米フォードと協力を検討 米ビッグ3と良好関係築き世界的再編の軸に[12/27]

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28名刺は切らしておりまして
>>25
autoblogでまたパクリかって言われててワロタ。
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/12/24/detroit-bound-toyota-ft-hs-hybrid-sports-concept/
29名刺は切らしておりまして:2006/12/28(木) 01:03:19 ID:rrB70xDi
使用して数年後にバッテリー交換する必要あるんだろ。

けっこう高くつくらしいよ。ハイブリッド。

燃費良くても意味ないんじゃ・・・?
30名刺は切らしておりまして:2006/12/28(木) 02:54:28 ID:HOBJJgSU
これからの再編は、環境技術が劣るメーカーが、優れるメーカーに助けを求めるという形が増えそうだな。
31名刺は切らしておりまして:2006/12/28(木) 12:46:51 ID:HOBJJgSU
>>29
プリウスは故障以外でバッテリーを交換した例はないよ
つまりバッテリーは交換の必要なし
32名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/01(月) 11:39:47 ID:g6hBwJsY
上げ〜
33名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/01(月) 11:50:52 ID:iBWncjjE
>>29
そういうのっていかにも在日っぽい書き込み。
34名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/01(月) 11:56:36 ID:5lxU4fJF
>>28
むしろ独創的なデザインを評価してる意見の方が多いと思うが?
実際、これはカッコイイ。このままのデザインで市販すればいいのに。
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=118933
35名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/01(月) 12:01:45 ID:ZvbuLth0
日本メーカーが20年前のように叩かれることはもうないと思う。

当時は、日本の自動車輸出が米国人の雇用を奪い米国内需要を
損なっていたが、いまや、日本の自動車産業は現地生産で米国の
雇用や需要をむしろ増やしている。
GMやフォードが既に「おわってる」会社だということは米国人
も気付いているわけで、むしろこれからは、日本メーカーをうま
く囲い込みつつ、中韓などからの輸出を食い止める、という方向
に政策が向くと考える方が合理的。

したがって、ワシントンへのロビー活動も、ビッグ3以外への広
がりを持たず、政権の為替政策などに与える影響も限定的なのでは。

36名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/01(月) 12:06:07 ID:ZvbuLth0
トヨタ等のハイブリッド技術は、確かに今後ビッグ3との差別化を進める一つの要素
にはなるが、これが過去数年の日本車の好調の主因だと考えるのは合理的でない。
実際、それでは、つい最近まで日産車が好調だったことへの説明がつかない。

品質改善努力や、消費者の嗜好の変化に合わせたマーケティング戦略が効を奏したの
が主因である。また、貿易摩擦の減少に伴って、かつて米国メーカーの聖域であった
ピックアップトラック市場などに参入できたことも大きい。
37American:2007/01/01(月) 13:13:05 ID:qR8fD4Qo
止めてくれFuck!
ジャップと組むと全負けっていう法則が発動しちまうぜ
38名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/02(火) 04:03:45 ID:re6PQ/rz
>>34
お前、コメント読んでないで書いてるだろ?
39名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/02(火) 17:17:06 ID:JxPBWsoS
>>38
それは自分でしょ。英語読めないの?
40名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/02(火) 17:38:37 ID:re6PQ/rz
>>39
見たところ、カコイイという意見もあるけど、FUGLYとかネガティブな意見が目立つな。
41名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/02(火) 17:53:34 ID:re6PQ/rz
まあいいや。コピペするから、後はお前らで勝手に判断しろ。

1. Nice ... copy of everything they could see or buy. Real original.

Posted at 4:15PM on Dec 24th 2006 by DarkKnight67 0 stars

2. Not too original: -1
I only see two pedals: -infinity

forget it, Toyota. Didn't you learn... stop making people laugh at you

Posted at 4:29PM on Dec 24th 2006 by apt34 0 stars

3. To me, it looks alot like the next-gen Nissan Skyline GT-R(R35?!). The way the hood slants twards the back and the side profile...just my thoughts. Lata...

Posted at 4:14PM on Dec 24th 2006 by Jay 0 stars

4. For me it looks like the next toyota celica

Posted at 4:57PM on Dec 24th 2006 by carlos 0 stars

5. hold on now, i think they may have something there. rumor has it that aliens will visit this planet in the near future, so what better to taxi them on a tour.

Posted at 4:46PM on Dec 24th 2006 by dave 0 stars

6. YuCk! No originality.

Posted at 4:45PM on Dec 24th 2006 by RJ 0 stars

7. Toyota's designers also postulate a unique retractable roof, which will slide and then lie down inside the car covering the backseat, rendering the car a two-seater.

Posted at 5:10PM on Dec 24th 2006 by rassel 0 stars

8. lol... at least nobody said it was booring.. or?

you guys crack me up...

Posted at 5:22PM on Dec 24th 2006 by sp 0 stars

9. Too modern as for me. I prefer more classic style

Posted at 6:06PM on Dec 24th 2006 by Toe.D 0 stars

10. No originality?
What pictures are you guys looking at???

What else is currently on the road with that kind of style and a hybrid powertrain?
What else on the road has a retractable roof & rear-glass panels like that?

Is it pretty?
Maybe not, but it certainly doesn't copy anything either.

Posted at 6:26PM on Dec 24th 2006 by bepsf 0 stars
42名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/02(火) 17:57:38 ID:re6PQ/rz
11. You honestly can't please everybody, just look at the comments in response to
any post that debuts any vehicle.

It's funny how everyone always says "it looks like..." Of course it's going to look like some
vehicle made in the past; it's difficult to come up with a new innovative design that no one
has done before.

Posted at 6:26PM on Dec 24th 2006 by SOhp101 0 stars

12. What the f*ck is Toyota thinking!? Or smoking!?

Posted at 6:09PM on Dec 24th 2006 by risingsun 0 stars

13. I like it. Not enough to actually buy one, but, I like it.

Posted at 7:29PM on Dec 24th 2006 by Jaymez 0 stars

14. Uglier than a mosquito's tweeter.

Posted at 7:35PM on Dec 24th 2006 by Don\'tYaWishYaHadOne 0 stars

15. Poor Saab. While everyone labels them with a bad reputation, they are simultaneously
being copied by everyone in the business. The cabin filter, centralized display, active head
restraints, ventilated seats, and now the entirety of the 9-x are being copied.

Posted at 5:01PM on Dec 24th 2006 by thomas 0 stars

16. *I meant to say roof, not hood!lol

Posted at 4:47PM on Dec 24th 2006 by Jay 0 stars

17. Fugly but original (like an r8).

Posted at 7:57PM on Dec 24th 2006 by joe 0 stars

18. Front end reminds me of an F1. Other than that, I have no opinion.

Posted at 8:06PM on Dec 24th 2006 by mike 0 stars

19. Hybrid "sports" car = moronic

Sorry but the last way to add "sport" is by throwing in a crapload of battery packs. The
Tesla is an exception because the weight is INSTEAD of an engine and fuel, not IN
ADDITION TO.

That, and the Accord has already proved that performance hybrids are not a big market
- something that Toyota could have learned by watching the innovators, but instead will
make a costly mistake with its silly Lexus "h" line.

Posted at 8:16PM on Dec 24th 2006 by Jason 0 stars

20. Oh and it's ugly as sin. Makes EVO/STI look attractive by comparison.

Posted at 8:17PM on Dec 24th 2006 by Jason 0 stars
43名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/02(火) 18:00:50 ID:re6PQ/rz
21. Hybrid "sports" car = moronic

Sorry but the last way to add "sport" is by throwing in a crapload of battery packs. The
Tesla is an exception because the weight is INSTEAD of an engine and fuel, not IN
ADDITION TO.

That, and the Accord has already proved that performance hybrids are not a big market
- something that Toyota could have learned by watching the innovators, but instead will
make a costly mistake with
its silly Lexus "h" line.

Posted at 8:18PM on Dec 24th 2006 by Jason 0 stars

22. __ I WONDERED WHEN WE WOULD SEE THE NEXT AMPHICAR-- LOL

Actually, not bad, except the front end, needs revision, and some more changes for
production, if they are going to try to plug this into the old Supra spot (best place).
But I hate to give them any good advice, as they would be very happy to sit in Japan and
control our Auto market, finishing what they started in 1941.

Posted at 8:21PM on Dec 24th 2006 by BOB 0 stars

23. i'm too drunk or this is a smal copy of the Audi R8

Posted at 12:51AM on Dec 25th 2006 by Apha3 0 stars

24. I think it looks incredible. I'm surprised at what I'm reading here because my opinion
generally mirrors what I read in the comments. I just think it's very stylish and original,
not to mention around four second acceleration and a mid-$30k pricetag. All of this with
a hybrid powertrain. What am I missing here?

Posted at 1:18AM on Dec 25th 2006 by Jason 0 stars

25. looks like a frog on wheels.........

Posted at 3:02AM on Dec 25th 2006 by paul 0 stars

26. It's so ridiculous that I like it!

Posted at 5:11AM on Dec 25th 2006 by dalieu 0 stars

27. I like it very much i rather have this than a 350z
the agressive lines are very much.

Posted at 9:17AM on Dec 25th 2006 by stj 0 stars

28. besides the green house that looks like the upcoming Nissan GT-R, this is not too
shaby from Toyota as a next gen Supra,

but then again, Toyota stop copying Nissan - bring your oen design to market, not
someone elses

Posted at 10:16AM on Dec 25th 2006 by pow 0 stars

29. #24, answer to your last question; brain cells.

Posted at 1:47AM on Dec 25th 2006 by dave 0 stars
44名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/02(火) 18:03:04 ID:re6PQ/rz
30. What's wrong with you guys? Toyota have always made good sports cars, like the
Celica and MR2, and I certainly don't see this one as being any different.

Posted at 11:59AM on Dec 25th 2006 by Pace 0 stars

31. to #31, dont be a import hater just because they make
beter cars.

Posted at 12:39PM on Dec 25th 2006 by stj 0 stars

32. What's up with all the harsh comments?
You'd think the Detroit boys were trolling the comments section here to stir up negative
feelings towards their new overlords. LOL
Wouldn't surprise me with how desperate they are.
This is one kick ass hybrid!
Toyota is the future.
Oh, and Honda too.
Peace.

Posted at 2:19PM on Dec 25th 2006 by RT 0 stars

33. "10. No originality?
What pictures are you guys looking at???"

Actually, it looks like the crack baby (meaning deformed and ugly) of the upcoming Lotus
Esprit, which was previewed a couple months ago, and the Nissan GT-R, which was previewed
several times in the last few years. So yes, it has no originality except for the
powertrain. And honestly, who buys a sports car to save the environment?

Posted at 5:13PM on Dec 25th 2006 by trans_am02 0 stars

34. not bad, next,...

Posted at 6:18PM on Dec 25th 2006 by John P. 0 stars

35. Now that I've gotten the link to work and seen the pictures of the car and interior, I
have to rethink my prior comment ... IT IS REALLY FUGLY AND ANYONE WHO WOULD EVEN CONSIDER
THIS TO BE A MARKED IMPROVEMENT OVER OTHER CARS HAS TO SET UP AN APPOINTMENT WITH A SHRINK!
This is s-o-o-o-o-o a copy of the Saab, right down to the futuristic dash, that it's
laughable.

Posted at 10:10PM on Dec 25th 2006 by DarkKnight67 0 stars
45名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/02(火) 18:04:25 ID:re6PQ/rz
36. It looks like the toyota version of the Lexus LF-A prototype considering it's airtakes
are in the rear.

Posted at 9:51AM on Dec 25th 2006 by ahmet 0 stars

37. Must have hurt someones feelings.. can't stand the truth eh boys?

Posted at 4:34PM on Dec 26th 2006 by Nippon despiser 0 stars

38. The solo space of Toyota FT-HS Hybrid is a concept of centering the vehicle around the
driver. It does give the driver a sense of control beyond a typically production car. This
vehicle seems to really have a quite a flare and I believe will win in the “Best Featured
Car at Detroit Auto Show Poll”

Best Featured Poll: http://todayspolls.googlepages.com/d_auto_show

Posted at 2:16PM on Dec 27th 2006 by Blake 0 stars

39. hmmm.... have you guys seen the real thing yet?? It's funny how people judge a 3D object
by looking at the color pixels on their tiny screen.

Posted at 1:52PM on Dec 27th 2006 by gus 0 stars

40. why do people hate on this concept so much? hybrid power is going to be the future trend
and fossil fuel will be replaced. why don't all you people try to draw a blueprint of a car
you think that looks good and show it to the public? I bet all you people are just the
haters because of the lack of creativity. Also, in comparision, it makes either the Evo/STI
look outdated in design wise. It is going to be a hit if it comes out as a production car.
Good job, Toyota~~

Posted at 1:20PM on Dec 27th 2006 by Jim 0 stars

41. Obviously it's polarizing, because I love the design. If they hit 400hp for $35k with
exceptional MPG and the potential for a hybrid tax deduction/credit, a lot of people will
love it.

Posted at 3:10PM on Dec 28th 2006 by cracka 0 stars
46名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/02(火) 18:07:37 ID:lfoZm79S
与太! ★ 期間従業員 ☆ 限定? 組立連番087
http://school5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/part/1167559664/
47名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/02(火) 18:08:44 ID:2Z3rHDnH
何も考えずにコピペしてるのはどこの工作員だ?
自給いくら?
48名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/02(火) 18:19:32 ID:7kGc4gyY
コピペやろう氏ね
49名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/02(火) 18:28:43 ID:kZX/l2el
そこの英語得意なエロい人、訳してくれよ
50名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/02(火) 18:30:16 ID:Z0v76r2H
要するにトヨタは世界一、ガチでだ!糞巨人元木氏ね

判りやすいなあ
51名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/02(火) 18:32:56 ID:el/2upKs
素直に言え、英語は読めんとw
52名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/02(火) 18:39:10 ID:TXstMcmG
どこかのサイトの評価の様だが、読めない奴がいるんだから訳してやれ
53名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/02(火) 23:51:53 ID:gOEtn8zO
なんだ、結局みんな英語が読めねーんじゃねーかw

>>52
>>28のサイトからのコピペのようだが、ためしにGoogle Translateに
かけてみたが翻訳の質はいまいちっぽい。
ttp://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autoblog.com%2F2006%2F12%2F24%2Fdetroit-bound-toyota-ft-hs-hybrid-sports-concept%2F&langpair=en%7Cja&hl=en&ie=UTF8
54名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/04(木) 01:01:15 ID:G5zunDm1
売っても売っても、売った数よりどんどん欠陥車の方が多くなっていくトヨタ(笑)
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  |    |// │ |    |オーヤマ|    ̄  `┬┬_´ ..||ε(;; ;)3|\  __
  |    /..│   | |  __ ̄ ̄ ___ . / ┌┘/l . ||ε(;; ;)3|.  || |#|イトーヨーカドー電気ストーブ
_|_/  │   | |  |Mac ||_  |:|デル|:| lニニニl/  .||ε(;; ;)3|.  || ~~~
.  / .     |   | | /__/l|:.. : |ニニニ|.::.:.:.||.:..:::..::..:  ̄ ̄ ̄\||            _/ ̄ ̄\_三菱
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 設計     |   |/.::.    :::./ヽ-、 .:  (PSP) : .| \| ̄|=| |コ=      /\\ :  _/ ̄ ̄\_トヨタ(笑)
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.       |/.::..:..:..::::.<_/____/.::.: ソニーBMG:..\.|_|: | | FF式 .  .| \|  |  ファイヤストンタイヤ
      □D902i        □iPod (#)ADEKA製湯たんぽ     ..\.|_|:サンヨー石油ファンヒーター
55名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/04(木) 22:16:03 ID:1vXQi7U6
トヨタの未来的なコンセプトカーのデザインはいいよな。
販売されたら劣化がひどすぎ
56名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/08(月) 04:13:36 ID:uBj81H90
今度は英語も読めない馬鹿ピックルは食いつかないよな。

Detroit Auto Show: 2008 Ford Focus
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/07/detroit-auto-show-2008-ford-focus/

北米フォードオワタ\(^o^)/
欧州フォーカスから2年以上も遅れて旧型ベースのカス車を発表してきました。
欧州版を少し手直しすれば事足りるものを、わざわざ無駄な努力をしやがって。
向こうでも失望の声多数。
57名刺は切らしておりまして:2007/01/08(月) 04:15:48 ID:z02afrs7
トヨタは期間工だらけのヤッツケ仕事
ギリギリの設計して下請けを叩けるだけ叩いてコストダウン
もはやトヨタの品質破綻は誰にも止められない
トヨタ公正の道は今のトヨタ車を買わないことただ一つ

リコール王・トヨタ 欠陥車率3年連続100%超も、回収率さえ非公表
http://news.livedoor.com/webapp/journal/cid__2299119/detail?rd
リコール王・トヨタ!マスコミへの口止め料も日本一!
http://www.mynewsjapan.com/kobetsu.jsp?sn=470
58名刺は切らしておりまして
トヨタ(笑)F1ファンクラブ解散し、
トヨタ(笑)御用雑誌のF1derが休刊か・・・。

手前味噌で誇大広告過ぎて F1derなんて立ち読みすらしないからなぁ。

やはり、組織的な犯罪集団のトヨタ(笑)にスポーツは無理だってことだよ。

トヨタ(恥)が不人気過ぎて笑えます。