Rape of Nanking (Iris Chang)

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Tragic, January 14, 2005　Reviewer: Clint Mosso (San Jose, CA United States)

I had only heard about Japanese atrocities in China during WWII in general,
yet had never read a detailed account (unlike the massive amounts of material
you are exposed to in school about the Holocaust). The Rape of Nanking taught
me much about the politics, motivations, and tragedies associated with Japan's
occupation of parts of mainland China in the late 30's. While the book is fast
paced, informative, and well written, do prepare yourself to be exposed to
descriptions of the most horrific acts that your imagination can muster.

I felt the book could have been edited down a bit as certain sections get
repetitive, but this is my only complaint about an otherwise amazing book on
a little covered chapter in history. One that everyone should read. Not learning
about The Rape is like being clueless about the Holocaust, and it's truly a tragedy
that this event has been lost on most of the western world. It's fantastic that
Iris Chang has brought it to light, yet tragic that she took her own life last year.
Bottom line, if you can stomach some of the most gut wrenching horrors of
The Rape being described in brutal detail (and some being pictured),
then you owe it to yourself to read this book.

Amazonいったらほとんどシナの工作カキコ
だと思われる４つ、５つ星しか載ってないじゃん。

削除されないうちに保存しる！！
中国の街頭ｵﾅｰﾆｻｰﾋﾞｽ↓

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《韓国のカジノで偽１万円札４２０枚》
　韓国の警察当局は１４日、ソウル市内のホテルのカジノで４０歳代の
在日韓国人の男性が使った現金のうち、４２０枚の１万円札が偽札と判明、
捜査を始めたと明らかにした。
　この男性は日本で不動産業などを経営。偽札とは知らなかったと話しているという。
　今回発見された偽札が、日本国内の偽１万円札事件と関係があるかなど
詳しいことは分かっていない。しかし、同事件が発覚して以来、一度に
これほど大量の偽１万円札が見つかったのは初めて。韓国の警察当局は
捜査研究所で偽札を調べる一方で、国際刑事警察機構（ＩＣＰＯ）へ通告、
日本の偽１万円札との関連を捜査している。
　同警察当局によると、男性は１１日、カジノでのギャンブルを目的に韓国に入国した。
男性は同日、ホテルのカジノで、所持していた１５４０万円をチップと交換。
カジノ職員が手触りに違和感を覚えて偽造紙幣の疑いを持ち、銀行に鑑定を依頼、
４２０枚が偽造紙幣と判明した。（共同）
(01/14 21:41)
http://www.sankei.co.jp/news/050114/kok071.htm
＜日経新聞＞　
在日韓国人が両替した現金のうち、420枚の1万円札が偽札と分かり、
http://www.nikkei.co.jp/news/main/20050114STXKF061214012005.html
＜読売新聞＞
カジノで在日韓国人の男性が１５４０万円を両替しようとしたが、
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/world/news/20050114it12.htm
＜毎日新聞＞
ソウル市内のカジノで偽１万円札４２０枚を使おうとした不動産業の在日韓国人の男
http://www.mainichi-msn.co.jp/shakai/jiken/news/20050115k0000m040064000c.html
＜朝日新聞＞
偽札はすべて、★日本から来た男性観光客★１人が１１日、カジノで１５４０万円をチップに換金した際に交じっていた。
http://www.asahi.com/national/update/0114/027.html
＜朝鮮日報＞
在日韓国人のチョン某氏
http://japanese.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2005/01/14/20050114000051.html

275 日出づる処の名無し 05/01/17 02:16:16 ID:zBAda+r/
ロンリープラネット社のサイトから。 　抗議先はこちら。http://www.lonelyplanet.com/feedback/
＜日本＞
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/destinations/north_east_asia/japan/
結局、再生エッフェル塔の写真をとるか、室内の海岸でサーフィンするか、禅寺の中で熟考するか、ラブホテルの中でshackingするか…
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/destinations/north_east_asia/japan/history.htm
歴史欄：建国が西暦300年、日本人は朝鮮半島から来た。
地図では日本海＆東海が併記。

＜韓国＞
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/destinations/north_east_asia/south_korea/
中国が東から、日本が日本から攻めて来ても、韓国は生き残ってきました。
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/destinations/north_east_asia/south_korea/history.htm
歴史欄：３万２千年前に定住、紀元前2333年に建国。日本文化の発展に多大な貢献をした。また、日本の蛮行について詳しく解説。
地図はもちろん東海です。

>>123
だれか英語で反論書いてくれよ。
英語出来る人いないの？

　

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What an amazing young scholar!, January 20, 2005
Reviewer: jen2005 "jen2005" (Texas, USA)
The Nanjing Massacre has been witnessed by hundreds of thousands despite
the clear attempt by Japanese soldiers to kill all those in view. It's sick that
the Japanese are not taught the truth regarding the past. Clearly, young
Japanese today are not at fault at what happened back in World War II, but
we should all recognize our past mistakes. As Chang shrewdly highlights,
Germany is a better country today because they recognized their dark past
and the South are better today because they now recognize that slavery is
unethical and simply disgusting. Shame on those who refuse to admit that the
Nanjing Massacre occurred. I wonder if they even read Chang's book, not to
mention the now many documentaries and texts regarding this subject matter.

----------------------------------------------------
英語で反論できる人、複数募集。

>>130
訂正：新五つ星リビュー　#589

何で日本側のは消されるわけ？

>>132
おかしいなぁ。

>>130 の #589 だったものが今は #588 になっている。
なにか消されたようだよ。

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Next Fascism Comes with Anti-Fascism Movement?, January 19, 2005
Reviewer: Yamata-no-Orochi

I have never seen a good, solid-based counter-argument to those denial theories
of so-called Rape of Nanking was made not only by ignorant amateur people but
by the supposedly-decent scholars alike.

It is matter of course that they never be able to do so considering the fact that
this story of the Rape of Nanking is mere propaganda. They should well know that
they have no evidence that supports the massacre really happened in Nanking in
December 1937. Because, on the contrary, many circumstantial evidences from
the neutral foreigners in the city, which, most crucially, have been used as the
very evidences for the massacre, point that soon after the capture of Nanking
peace was in fact restored by the Japanese Army and genuine Chinese civilians
(apart from those civilian-disguised Chinese soldiers, of course) gave them
welcome rather eagerly. Anyone can read can see this from contemporary
documents like "The Documents of the Nanking Safety Zone" and letters and
diaries of those foreigners who remained in Nanking at the period in question
which anyone can obtain anytime from Amazon.com book store most of the time.

So, naturally, instead of trying to make a counter-argument on what exactly the
denial theories say, what they always do is to distort and deride those denials
or to make a forced analogy between the Rape of Nanking denials and the Nazi
Holocaust denials so that other uninformed people think that those deniers are
all evil fascists and ultra-nationalists, therefore, they should never be listened to.
They need to keep people out of those good resources because, once people read
those contemporary documents by themselves, they will certainly know what really
happened in Nanking and, more exactly, what really not happened in Nanking.

With those aggressive words, some people really are imbuing people's mind with
false assumptions on those Rape of Nanking denials that can lead to prejudice
to the Japanese culture itself. I cannot help thinking that, although we should be
living in a democratic society in which people should have a right to speak freely,
somehow we are under a covert speech control. It seems that once you are labelled
as an ultra-nationalist or a neo-Nazi, you can never refute anything. I feel as if I am
being told that: the left is right and the right is ALWAYS, PROFOUNDLY and
INDEFINITELY wrong. Does this not sound like fascism/totalism?
Incidentally, Amnesty International Report in 1978 says that in Communist China
at that time history teachers were assigned to the post not by their achievement in
history study but by fine understanding of the ideology of communism. I just wonder
if it is still true to this day.

(By the way, the reviewer below called chaconnesque"chaconnesque", the Chinese
who were killed in the South East Asian countries in the WW2 by the Japanese Army
were mostly guerrillas in civilian clothes which is supposed to be illegal worldwide
and, therefore, the commanders who ordered the executions of those guerrillas were
acquitted in the war crimes courts by the Allied powers after the war.)

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Cannibal is Chinese culture., February 3, 2005
Reviewer: pink daruma

I contribute for the first time.
Various informations about Nanking Massacre are flowing, to tell the truth,
I also can't understand which one is the true information.
But, I want to say only one point.
They say, Japanese soldiers ate Chinese's internal organs with pan. It's nonsense story.
Japanese began eating pig or beef about 140 years ago. All samurais were vegetarians.
I swear we don't have that kind of culture. Cannibal is Chinese culture.
You can easily understand if you read Chinese history book. Obviously,
it's a propaganda made by Chinese.
Though there are Japanese slaughter events committed by Chinese, too. \
If those are not seen, it is not impartial.

とらわれた日本兵へ侵略されたチベットとかの人達が
日本軍がおこなった暴行をでっちあげるための裏付け写真のスタッフとして使われた
ってこと　ないだろうね。

>>137
南京の証拠として使う写真は戦後２０年ぐらいの時点で
既に出尽くしていないといけないはず。

今後新規に出てくる写真は全て信用できない。

南京事件「証拠写真」を検証する
http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/4794213816/qid%3D1107351340/249-3261283-9156353

「南京事件」には「虐殺派」と呼ばれる人々がいる。旧日本軍が南京で
殺戮、強姦、放火、略奪など悪虐非道の限りを尽くし30万人の中国人を虐殺した、
という説をとるジャーナリストや学者である。「南京大虐殺」が史実として
定着したのは、本多勝一『中国の旅』（朝日新聞社、1972年）、笠原十九司
『南京事件』（岩波新書、1997年）、アイリス・チャン『ザ・レイプ・オブ・南京』
（ペンギン・ブックス、1997年）など、そういう人々の功績といっていい。

一方に、東京裁判、中国共産党、大新聞の「大虐殺」説に疑問を抱く人々もいる。
阿羅健一『「南京事件」日本人48人の証言』（小学館文庫、2001年）は、
その疑念を晴らすために、当時南京にいた日本軍人、外交官、ジャーナリストから
直接証言を求めたものである。ジャーナリストの櫻井よしこは、同書に寄せた
「推薦のことば」で「関係者の体験談を集めた第一級の資料」と評している。
ひるがえって『中国の旅』『ザ・レイプ・オブ・南京』などが証拠としている写真は、
はたして「第一級の資料」であったかどうか。本書の著者、東中野修道たちの
グループ「南京事件研究会写真研究分科会」が、平成14年春から3年間をかけて、
虐殺派の書物に掲載されている写真を検証しようとしたのは、「大虐殺説」に
納得できなかったからだった。

著者たちが見た写真は3万枚を超える。この中から南京事件の証拠とされている
約140枚を選び出し、撮影者、撮影場所と時期、キャプション、出所・提供者など
写真の特性を洗い出しているが、科学的とさえいえる検証作業の結果、
南京大虐殺の「証拠写真」として通用するものは1枚もないことがわかった。

>>127
そう思うんなら、お前がまず英語を学んで、書き込めよ

>>136
うほっ！
強烈なレビューだなｗ

タイトルからして「人食いは中国文化」かよｗ

>>136
もう一押しして、この一文を追加して欲しかった。

If you cannot believe what I am saying,
search google with two keywords "cannibalism china"
you will find plenty of evidence in the internet.

もし信じられないなら　cannibalism china　と
いう二つのキーワードでググッてみな。
インターネットにたくさんの証拠があるよ。

この著者自殺したんだろ。ほんとは、証拠隠滅で殺されたんじゃないの？

>>143
ケンタッキーで調べ物をしていた時何かを発見して以来
情緒不安定だったらしい。

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/11/11/MNGB59PKL01.DTL
"She was doing research recently in Kentucky and ran into some problem,"
he said. "She got really upset, and she flew home." Chang lived in San Jose
with her husband, Brett Douglas.

Ding, who heads the Cupertino-based Global Alliance for Preserving the
History of World War II in Asia, said he did not know what kind of problem
Chang might have encountered or whether it was a factor in her death.

>>144
中国共産党の捏造を証明するような何かを発見し、
自分が主張してきたことが嘘だとわかり、
今まで信じてきたものがガラガラと崩壊したとか。。。

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Excellent Overview of Neglected Topic, February 9, 2005
Reviewer: James J. Paul (Raleigh, North Carolina USA)

Had this book merely called the attention of Western readers to this neglected
and heartbreaking topic, it would have been a very important work.

But this book is also very concise, superbly structured, and well-written
(if, on rare occasions, a tad overwrought).

It is not the last word on the subject, but it is a very good introduction to it.

「1937年の中国軍による上海での日本人捕虜虐殺事件」　上海において中国兵による日本人や市民虐殺が実行された。

（資料）　
(上海における中国人の日本人捕虜虐殺行為に関するCNNレポート）
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9609/23/rare.photos/index.html

（ＣＮＮ紙に掲載された虐殺光景）
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9609/23/rare.photos/image1.lg.jpg
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9609/23/rare.photos/image2.lg.jpg

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Compelling account of a Culture of Murder, February 16, 2005
Reviewer: Chinaski007 (Portland, Oregon)

In a day and age when Japan's Prime Minister still annually makes pilgrimages to "honor"
Japan's "war heros", books like this provide some insight into the cultural underpinnings
of racism and utter brutality.

Japan's forced enslavement, torture, and rape of Koreans, Chinese, Taiwanese, and others in
WW2 has been well-documented; and yet, curiously, it takes explosive books like this to
bring this documentation out of stale academia and into modern light.

Even today, those who were borne and live in Japan from those Koreans forcibly kidnapped
and raped by Japanese are not Japanese citizens... despite the fact that they are now 3rd
generation Japanese, speak no Korean, and have never been to Korea. As this book amply
demonstrates, Japan breeds into its people a robotic disregard for human life and suffering,
and a racism that, to this day, is remarkably disturbing. In the US, we tend to focus on
occidental sins... it's time we also cast our eyes eastward.

反論募集します

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Powerful look at Tragedy & Brutality, February 19, 2005
Reviewer: K.A.Goldberg (Chicago)

This gripping expose' of Japan's brutality in China is not for the faint of heart.
Author Iris Chang used official documents and interviews with aged survivors to
narrate one of the most overlooked chapters of 20th Century genocide.
When Japan's imperial army captured the Chinese city of Nanking in 1937, their
soldiers exacted a blood-thirsty revenge. As this book shows, no Chinese were
exempt from the seven-week (...) of murder and rape that followed. Japanese
soldiers used Chinese prisoners for bayonet practice, shot entire families, and
raped women by the thousands (usually killing their victims afterwards).
Recoiling in horror, a handful of western officials, missionaries, and others
(led ironically by (...) diplomat John Rabe) worked to establish an international
safe zone that saved thousands of Chinese. Still this powerful narrative shows
that Japan's army murdered an estimated 300,000 Chinese citizens in the space
of less than two months.

I recently a television interview where an aged ex-soldier from Japan admitted to
having participated in these brutalities and to having felt no remorse until years later.
Gee. Author Iris Chang (1968-2004) was a talented journalist who unfortunately took
her own life - one wonders if this powerful narrative may have contributed to her burdens.

新４星リビュー #593　　

Forgotten, February 23, 2005 Reviewer: J.D. Nguyen "Jon" (Canada)
I will admit that I am only a Grade 12 student reading this book as part of a English project,
however while reading the reviews of this book on Amazon.com I came across somebody
saying that this is not forgotten history. When I presented my report to a class of average
Canadian high school students many of whom were in my History 12 class were totally
oblivious to such acts of violence and sadistic rape, murder and degredgation of the Chinese.

I believe that however bias Chang's writing maybe at certain points it is only because any
decent human being cannot or would have a hard time writing of such atrocities without
providing a hint of anger and frustration as to the events of Nanking.

I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS BOOK TO EVERYBODY, it is very much a book that is
important and informative, but at the same time it is written with graphic detail as
the reader is bombarded with constant stories and depictions of rape,murder and mutilation.
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Canadian high school students many of whom were in my History 12 class were totally
oblivious to such acts of violence and sadistic rape, murder and degredgation of the Chinese.

↑「このような残虐さとサディスティックレイプ、殺人は中国人の犯罪者がやることだということを
自分の高校の生徒はみんな認識していた」だと言うことかな？

新一つ星リビュー #593 （どこかで一つリビューが削除されている）
Everyone! Please Read "Eyewitnesses to Massacre"!!, March 6, 2005
Reviewer: Yamata-no-Orochi
I have never seen a good, solid-based counter-argument to those denial theories of so-called
Rape of Nanking was made not only by ignorant amateur people but by the supposedly-decent scholars alike.

It is matter of course that they never be able to do so considering the fact that this story of the
Rape of Nanking is mere propaganda. They should well know that they have no evidence that
supports the massacre really happened in Nanking in December 1937. Because, on the contrary,
many circumstantial evidences from the neutral foreigners in the city, which, most crucially, have
been used as the very evidences for the massacre, point that soon after the capture of Nanking
peace was in fact restored by the Japanese Army and genuine Chinese civilians (apart from those
civilian-disguised Chinese soldiers, of course) gave them welcome rather eagerly. Anyone can read
can see this from contemporary documents like "The Documents of the Nanking Safety Zone" and
letters and diaries of those foreigners who remained in Nanking at the period in question which
anyone can obtain anytime from Amazon.com book store most of the time.

So, naturally, instead of trying to make a counter-argument on what exactly the denial theories say,
what they always do is to distort and deride those denials or to make a forced analogy between the
Rape of Nanking denials and the Nazi Holocaust denials so that other uninformed people think that
those deniers are all evil fascists and ultra-nationalists, therefore, they should never be listened to.
They need to keep people out of those good resources because, once people read those contemporary
documents by themselves, they will certainly know what really happened in Nanking and, more exactly,
what really not happened in Nanking.

With those aggressive words, some people really are imbuing people's mind with false assumptions on those
Rape of Nanking denials that can lead to prejudice to the Japanese culture itself. I cannot help thinking that,
although we should be living in a democratic society in which people should have a right to speak freely,
somehow we are under a covert speech control. It seems that once you are labelled as an ultra-nationalist
or a neo-Nazi, you can never refute anything. I feel as if I am being told that: the left is right and the right is
ALWAYS, PROFOUNDLY and INDEFINITELY wrong. Does this not sound like fascism/totalism?
Incidentally, Amnesty International Report in 1978 says that in Communist China at that time history teachers
were assigned to the post not by their achievement in history study but by fine understanding of the ideology
of communism. I just wonder if it is still true to this day.

(By the way, the Chinese who were killed in the South East Asian countries in the WW2 by the Japanese
Army were mostly guerrillas in civilian clothes which is supposed to be illegal worldwide and, therefore,
the commanders who ordered the executions of those guerrillas were acquitted in the war crimes courts
by the Allied powers after the war.)

What really happened in Nanking
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/unko/tamezou/nankin/whatreally/

New Research on the Nanjing Incident(南京事件の新しい研究)
UCLAのページ。、虐殺の定義、意味論を展開している
ttp://www.international.ucla.edu/asia/article.asp?parentid=16772

わからずやクソリスチャン。

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STUNNING, March 13, 2005
It is a very stunning book and stomach churning in which Iris Chang tells the story of
many, in a respective manner dividing the stories into three seperate sections, Japanese,
Chinese witnesses, and Foreigners. In The Rape of Nanking, she briefly describes the
tragedy of many Chinese people who endured rape, murder, and cruel treatment from
Japanese soldiers. Although many Japanese people deny the fact that this ever
happened, this book really shows the true colors of this tragedy that will never be forgotten.

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Awareness and Forgetfulness in History, March 13, 2005
Reviewer: R. DelParto (Virginia Beach, VA USA)

Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking: The Forgotten Holocaust of World War II examines one of
history's atrocities under the microscope. By looking at the cover of the book, one may not
be able to decipher what the cover depicts if one hasn't studied or read about the Chinese
holocaust that occurred before World War II was officially declared in 1939. One can only
think that the picture depicts dead fish along the ground. However, that is not the case, and
it is the gruesome reality of what can happen in times of conflict. The Japanese proceeded
in creating havoc in Manchuria in December 1937 in order to attain territorial and imperialistic
power over the Chinese.

Chang's well-documented narrative of the Rape of Nanking is a powerful book that can either
move you or make you think about history that has already passed. The Rape of Nanking is
one of those events in history that has been debated and challenged by Japanese historians
in telling the truth about Nanking by non-Japanese researchers or even those who actually
lived through the experience. Through Chang's narrative, she pleads to her readers that this
event indeed happened and revisionists working to debunk the facts are working on a thin
red line when they taint history in order to paint a "pretty" picture of their own history.
History is not complete unless the entire big picture is presented.

The Rape of Nanking is indeed another piece of the puzzle in telling the history of World War II.
As more evidence is presented to what occurred before Pearl Harbor, there will be a better
understanding to what eventually occurred on August 9, 1945 and after. Those who read the
book should be forewarned of the graphic narrative as well as the photographs. Nonetheless,
this is a highly recommended book.

俺、英語できないからみんな頑張ってね

Iris Chang is history creator.
She is a stubboun woman and she has selfish character.
She always say hysterically and believe only fabricated history.

She is connected with the China of Communist Party.
People's Republic of China is the most violative country in the world.
This country is always violates human rights and has been bitterly criticised by Internationai Society.

新一つ星リビュー　#595
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Media of Propaganda, March 26, 2005, Reviewer: Lawrence (Canada)

It's so amazing that many reviewers of this book accept everything they read in the book as truth.
Then, when you realize the so many of the reviewers are also of Chinese origin or descendants,
it's no surprise. The history in general sometimes will not reveal a full true story of any events
for a long time; 10, 30, 50, 100 years or even centuries. Recently, there was a finding that, out of
the Soviet Communist Archived documents, the Soviet had issued an order to Mao Zedong to
instigate the Japanese army to invade and break out a war against China in order to rear-guard
the soviet which was at war against German and was worried about another front in Asia against
Japan. This is quite contrary to the general notion that Japan invaded China out of territorial
aggression. Those reviewers of this book whose one of the favourite comments is 'Well documented'
or 'Well researched' really makes me wonder what they mean by those comments or how they
figured whether or not the author has, indeed, conducted good fact findings and researches.
When it comes to the history books, one must counter balance by reading the both sides of its
story in question if there are more than one party involved in the event. （以下省略）

一番最後にこちらのサイトが紹介されてます。
history.gr.jp/nanking/index2.html

新４つ星リビュー #597
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SAD, March 29, 2005 Yuan Geng "Maybe_tomm" (Ann Arbor, MI) - See all my reviews

I am DEEPLY embarassed by some of the Japanese and Chinese reviewers who basically blast at
each other. The Japanese who flat out deny the existence of this atrocity are ridiculous beyond words.
The Chinese who curse at the Japanese with horrible names and some even swore on having a
"Rape of Tokyo" is also just embarassing!

As a Chinese I've always been interested in the Japanese language, culture, and food for pure
enjoyment. I believe the Japanese have a very interesting and unique societal view on their own
race and their own lifestyle, they have very disciplined views, for good and for bad. I have many
Japanese friends and feel that there are always good and bad people everywhere.

There are many genocides that occurred around the world throughout ages, the rape of Nanjing,
Turkish slaughter of Armenians, slaughter of Muslims in the Balkans, and the current genocide
that is OCCURING right now in Sudan and Rhwanda are, in a sense, all the same. They are all
denounced, and even the ones occuring right now, we're all ignoring them. Out of the hundreds of
genocides and mass/gruesome murders that happened in the world, only the holocause is recognized.

War is a dirty and dark magical power that sucks out people's souls and makes us inhumane and
out of our minds. When a country is in war, its soldiers are fooled by the leader into committing
acts they never imagine they could commit. When a city is invaded, it is almost always the case
that inhumane slaughterings will occur. I am not here to excuse the Japanese but to say that many
atrocious events happened and the Japanese invasion of China is one in thousands.

I feel horrible that the Japanese is denying the rape of Nanjing. My grandmother's brothers and sisters
and their families were burned alive by the Japanese while herself narrowly escaped, I grew up listening
to her tales, and to hear so many people on this page denying MY FAMILY's death is very painful, and
it makes me very, very angry.

Frankly, after reading the Rape of Nanking I dropped studying Japanese at my college, because I simply
cannot get myself to come to terms with not this atrocity, but the simple denial of this atrocity by the
culture I am interested in.

I'd say that both Chinese and Japanese are deeply racist toward each other, while the Chinese claim
that they have a reason to hate the Japanese for the crimes they've done, the Japanese looks down
upon the Chinese as if we're inferior to them. In both cases, it is not justified.

I hope there are people (both Japanese and Chinese) out there who are a little more civilized than
some of the people on this web, to not look past our past, but to recognize our past, accept our past,
and move beyond are past knowing that war is unfortunate, it brings out the worst in people, and to move on.

It is stupid to think that two great Asian countries cannot work together and to let the US take advantage
of hatred.

新一つ星リビュー #598 （日本人の反論）
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The truth is...., March 29, 2005, Reviewer: Crazy Horse - See all my reviews
I am Japanese, and I strongly believe that the so-called Rape of Nanking never happened
just because there are no good, solid evidences which substantiate the accusation.

If you don't believe me, that's fine, but please read "Eyewitnesses to Massacre" edited
by proper Chinese scholar Zhang Kaiyuan. You can see those "objective" foreigners of the
Nanking Safety Zone International Committee and other American missionaries, who stayed
in Nanking at the very moment of the Japanese capture and occupation of Nanking
December 1937 to spring of 1938, said themselves clearly that they saw NO actual killings
(outside of the legitimate executions) by themselves at all!

They said that they believe all of those atrocities of Japanese Army that they heard from
their Chinese friends were true, but also said that they had not verified them at all.
（以下省略）

新５つ星リビュー #598
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People, it's meaningless to argue about numbers!, April 2, 2005,
Reviewer: "aquaexecution" (Vancouver, Canada) - See all my reviews

Does it really matter if the number of Chinese civilians that are killed is 50,000 or 500,000?
An atrocity is an atrocity, regardless of the number! Many innocent civilians are mass
murdered and that is the fact! Smaller number doesn't automatically make the massacre
a "small thing". Smaller number doesn't mean Japanese government is not guilty about
the massacre. The smaller number doesn't mean Japanese government don't need to
apologize!!!

The number of Jews that are killed in the concentration camps also varies,
how come I don't see anyone arguing about the numbers? The Japanese government
should stop trying to find excuses and face the true history! People's voice cannot
be wrong! Where do you think those victims that accuses Japanese government come
from? Victims cannot be fabricated. It doesn't really matter if China is under communism
or not. Even if China is a democratic country, Chinese people will still remember the
atrocities the Japanese had done to them!

新三つ星リビュー#599
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I have Japanese friends and Chinese friends and they are all very nice people
until you start talking about the Rape of Nanking.

Basically, the Chinese go ballistic, the Japanese get miserable. The Chinese utterly
insist that EVERY Japanese is a "war atrocity denier" and God help the guy who says
otherwise. The Japanese basically regret Nanking as a big mistake, but tend to think
they are being ostracized for something they are not responsible for.

Neither side is entirely right. On one hand, there are plenty of Japanese who are indignant
that other Japanese people are trying to forget the Rape of Nanking. In fact, I have met
more such Japanese than otherwise. On the other hand, Japanese people were not informed
about the Rape of Nanking until well after the war, but they have to be accountable for
the government they supported, even if it is about an event that happened long before they
were born. (In the same way that our grandchildren will be held accountable for the actions
of George W. Bush later on in history when the truth finally comes to light.)

Iris Chiang's book is not the best on the subject. It is just too sensationalistic and indignant.
For an even-handed tretise on wartime Japan, I suggest you read "The Japanese
Wartime Empire, 1931-1945" by Peter Duus.
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この話になると中国人は怒り狂い、日本人は惨めに。
惨めになる日本人はよく知らないからだよね。教育が悪い。

しかしこれを書いた人は従軍慰安婦のこともよく勉強しているよ。
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/AZGFH05BIP74E/ref=cm_cr_auth/103-4013444-7503855?%5Fencoding=UTF8
いわゆる従軍慰安婦は売春婦だったと書いている。

こんなサイトを見つけた

米国大学で、南鮮や支那の歴史捏造にたった一人で立ち向かう日本人留学生
http://usam.blogtribe.org/entry-3ed13d8da53c34db25887aced6dcddcc.html

おい、おまいらも思ってないか？歴史歪曲とかほざいて日本にたかり、海外
まで捏造の輪を広げようとしてる（輪は友達の輪だけで十分だ！）中韓を何とかした
いと。実際２ちゃんには戦っている香具師がたくさんいる。英語で海外のやつ
らと戦ってる香具師。資料を探してくれる香具師。すげぇうまくまとめサイトを作ってくれる香具師。みな
頑張ってる。これでみなが協力して巨大なHPを作って正々堂々日本が正しいことを世界に主
張できたらと思うんだが……。漏れは英語力→そんなに無い　理論的思考力→ない　HPづく
り→詳しくない　知識→そんなに無い　……とこんなにだめ（orz）だがでももうが
まんができない。正直いろんなとこに書き込んでスルーされてる。でもとりあえず書き込みを続ける。
せいいっぱいやりませんか？うざかったらスマソ。でも同調してくれる香具師はこれをコピペしていろ
んなとこに貼って欲しい。頼む。南京大虐殺も従軍慰安婦も、海外での扱いは酷いぞ。
かなり中韓にみな毒されてる。漏れたちみんなで立ち上がれないかな？　

このサイト、マジ強烈です。＊グロ注意
どなたか翻訳して海外に紹介して下さい。

ttp://www.tcnweb.ne.jp/~perfect/china.htm