【良い宿】バンコク・エコノミーホテル 3【悪い宿】
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みさをμ6シートベルト :
2011/12/21(水) 13:25:46.30 ID:6rAOJjAN
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ななし :2011/12/21(水) 14:44:54.11 ID:xHFw+U0A
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名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2011/12/23(金) 12:49:05.23 ID:YlgC9wn4
あれ どうしたの?
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名無しさん :2011/12/23(金) 12:52:36.04 ID:hcn0BORn
どうせこのスレも悔しさが限界超えちゃったTTがHNを変えて複数IDで自演して すぐに滅茶苦茶に荒らされるのは時間の問題だw
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名無し :2011/12/23(金) 13:18:38.03 ID:oZbEsGZS
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ぷんぷいサムゲタン :2011/12/25(日) 05:23:50.40 ID:bqOisc+q
じゃあageで
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t :2011/12/25(日) 16:14:34.76 ID:DQNWXF5C
【警察の人へ】 先ほど通報した件はこいつです↓ 念のためIDから住所調べて事情聴取をしておいた方がいいですよ 682 名無しさん:2011/12/25(日) 11:22:13.21 ID:bRFk1UyM 本日午後10時、スワンナプーム空港で人を10人刺し殺します 必ずやります
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ぐへ :2011/12/25(日) 21:37:06.78 ID:mMPnKUAP
>7 またみっけ。 ばーか
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名無し :2011/12/25(日) 22:30:06.38 ID:2Du3BE7U
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:2011/12/26(月) 17:39:25.32 ID:DkfLsjvg
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ゆめき :2011/12/27(火) 00:15:20.47 ID:ruWfOVE5
____ / \ /\ キリッ . / (ー) (ー)\ / ⌒(__人__)⌒ \ | |r┬-| | 三ノ輪ってどれよ? \ `ー'´ / ノ \ /´ ヽ | l \ ヽ -一''''''"~~``'ー--、 -一'''''''ー-、. ヽ ____(⌒)(⌒)⌒) ) (⌒_(⌒)⌒)⌒)) ____ /_ノ ヽ、_\ ミ ミ ミ o゚((●)) ((●))゚o ミ ミ ミ /⌒)⌒)⌒. ::::::⌒(__人__)⌒:::\ /⌒)⌒)⌒) | / / / |r┬-| | (⌒)/ / / // だっておwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww | :::::::::::(⌒) | | | / ゝ :::::::::::/ コピペに聞いてるおwwwwwwwwwwwwwww | ノ | | | \ / ) / ヽ / `ー'´ ヽ / / バ | | l||l 从人 l||l l||l 从人 l||l バ ン ヽ -一''''''"~~``'ー--、 -一'''''''ー-、 ン ヽ ____(⌒)(⌒)⌒) ) (⌒_(⌒)⌒)⌒))
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名無しさん :2011/12/27(火) 00:56:35.70 ID:pHBzl4mb
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m :2011/12/27(火) 15:38:19.03 ID:SDio+Ye5
25歳で海外で買春、しかも炉利ヲタか。 廃人街道まっしぐらだね。
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名無し :2011/12/27(火) 16:15:54.84 ID:pHBzl4mb
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ゆめき :2011/12/27(火) 17:29:25.49 ID:ruWfOVE5
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ゆめき :2011/12/27(火) 17:31:55.25 ID:ruWfOVE5
llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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ゆめき :2011/12/27(火) 17:34:25.01 ID:ruWfOVE5
llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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ゆめき :2011/12/27(火) 17:36:54.78 ID:ruWfOVE5
llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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ゆめき :2011/12/27(火) 17:39:24.49 ID:ruWfOVE5
llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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ゆめき :2011/12/27(火) 17:41:54.23 ID:ruWfOVE5
llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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ゆめき :2011/12/27(火) 17:44:23.99 ID:ruWfOVE5
llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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ゆめき :2011/12/27(火) 17:46:53.71 ID:ruWfOVE5
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ゆめき :2011/12/27(火) 17:49:23.46 ID:ruWfOVE5
llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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ゆめき :2011/12/27(火) 17:51:53.21 ID:ruWfOVE5
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ゆめき :2011/12/27(火) 17:54:22.95 ID:ruWfOVE5
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ゆめき :2011/12/27(火) 17:56:52.70 ID:ruWfOVE5
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ゆめき :2011/12/27(火) 17:59:22.45 ID:ruWfOVE5
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ゆめき :2011/12/28(水) 00:00:12.05 ID:vkjjgh1Y
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ゆめき :2011/12/28(水) 00:04:41.12 ID:vkjjgh1Y
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か :2011/12/28(水) 00:21:04.75 ID:EHBXY+aK
まじでかんべんしてくれよ なにがあったんだよ
73 :
いぽね :2011/12/28(水) 21:49:41.35 ID:Wq5lLtyP
哀れよのう。
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a :2011/12/29(木) 00:32:46.46 ID:jW/Xg7h+
で、この箕輪保広って奴は今どこ住んでるんだ? それとも新潟の実家住まいか?
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名無し :2011/12/29(木) 11:52:39.54 ID:kv/2Y7dF
>>74 それさえわかれば
またそれをエサに遊べるなwwww
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移動お願いします :2011/12/30(金) 00:06:18.39 ID:tgeBOTQR
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名無し :2012/01/02(月) 01:23:42.96 ID:HW3p/QUm
グランドビジネスインのロビーでLBと金銭問題起こしたけど、 ロビースタッフ、駐車場のオッサン計4名で仲介に入ってくれたよ。 翌朝、ホテルマネージャーのスーツ着たオバハンにごめんなさいしました。
2月に初めてバンコクに行きます。 お勧めのホテル教えて〜。 遊び場に徒歩圏内で、夜は静かに寝れるところが良いです。
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名無しさん :2012/01/02(月) 02:46:23.48 ID:ZG0HP+aB
まず遊びたい遊び場を言えよって感じ
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名無しさん :2012/01/02(月) 02:51:48.51 ID:R1uR81Om
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78 :2012/01/02(月) 03:13:33.72 ID:STAMUWRV
どこの遊び場がいいのか、まだよくわかりません。 GoGoバーとテーメーカフェは行ってみたいです。 ホテル予算というか、平均相場がいくらか解らないので、、、
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名無しさん :2012/01/02(月) 03:54:16.13 ID:ZG0HP+aB
俺は無線LAN必須、バス、セキュリティBOX必須だったので 有名どこ⇒グランドビジネスイン(有線LAN) 金額とナナとテメの距離優先⇒シティロッジソイ9 金額とソイカとテメの距離優先⇒シティロッジソイ19 で決めた。金無い人用。 つか調べてから来い
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78 :2012/01/02(月) 09:24:13.42 ID:cZyCJpcy
レスありがとうございます! シティロッジソイ9と19は確かにいい感じですね! 無線LANもつかえるなら最高かと思います。JFだし(*^_^*)
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名無し :2012/01/02(月) 14:26:05.75 ID:6+5bkyrW
77だけど、今まで3回グランドビジネスインで非常に気に入ってるし、 LB引いた時もID預ける際に表情で教えてくれたり 問題起こした時の尻拭いしてっもらったりと世話に成ってるんだけど、、 あそこのベッドが馴染まないんだよね。シーツの下が茶色い合皮の マットレスで通気性が悪いのよ。 ちゃんとした布でスプリングのマットレスで寝たいんだけど、誰か教えてください。
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名無しさん :2012/01/03(火) 11:51:13.80 ID:KkhRTSDj
シティロッジ19、隣にターミナル21があるんで交通整理の笛ピーが朝からマジうるせえwwww ソイ19の奥側の部屋を指定出来れば良かったんだがなあ。
>>85 何を教えればいいの?
ベッドがいやなら、別のホテルに泊まれば済む話だろ。
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名無しさん :2012/01/03(火) 14:30:14.79 ID:lBCPxzHD
>>86 ターミナル21に近いからいいなと思ったけど、
最悪だな。ターミナル21自体ももういかないって言うくらいつまらない。
何号室?俺今5階
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名無し :2012/01/03(火) 14:47:40.77 ID:xb0/jclO
>>87 布でスプリングのマットレスで寝れるホテルが知りたい。
エコノミーでは無いかな?
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サルトル :2012/01/03(火) 15:54:59.83 ID:W1phDG5T
射精にしかきょうみ無いのか? 人生の半分以上を損してるな
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soi19好き :2012/01/03(火) 21:14:17.38 ID:pe8JDIO8
>>86 ターミナル21がopenしてから車の流れがガラッと変わったね、soi19は。
いつも渋滞してて、以前ののんびりした感じが無くなってしまった。
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名無しさん :2012/01/03(火) 21:19:55.06 ID:lBCPxzHD
だねぇ。 ナナ側から左折でソイ19に入ってすぐ右折して ターミナル21に入ろうとする車がうざすぎ。 もとの屋台に戻してほしいわ
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名前いるんかいw :2012/01/04(水) 12:17:40.67 ID:OfAfD6Pb
チケットとれたら卒業旅行にタイいくぜーひゃはー とりあえず安いのはカオサン行っとけば問題ない感じですか?
>>93 カオサンは有名になり過ぎて値上がり傾向、
激安宿には何かしらの妥協点(特にセキュリティ関係)があるから下調べは万全にね。
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神取 :2012/01/05(木) 13:20:07.18 ID:8YpScjNr
>>93 なにしに行くかにもよるけど女遊びしたいんならカオサンは不便だよ。
>>94 >>95 返信ありがとうございます
やりたいことは
・Kasetsart Uni.に遊びに行く
・RCAではめを外す
・チャトゥチャックのウィークエンドマーケットにいく
・NANAではめを外す
・カオサンでFIXフリーのチケットを買う
と場所がバラバラなんで止まれる場所は特にどこでも大丈夫です
移動の方が安いし
24時間やってるマックとかレストランはないですよねw
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名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/01/05(木) 19:39:54.37 ID:Z46a5iVR
エクスペディア 1泊あたり10%引きクーポン KNTTABISELF2012
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名無しさん :2012/01/07(土) 18:36:51.87 ID:VGjBJBwF
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名無し :2012/01/07(土) 21:09:28.84 ID:RiENxsUf
10泊で1日無料を信じてるとかアホかw 適用規約を100年読んでろw
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名無しさん :2012/01/07(土) 21:56:51.16 ID:VGjBJBwF
めんどいから言ってみてよ。 できないん? 使用ホテルの価格との問題は分ってるけど。
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名無し :2012/01/09(月) 00:44:42.77 ID:jk7adQiZ
>>96 カオサンは風俗に興味ないバックパッカーが泊まるゲストハウスが多くて有名だけど
カオサン以外にもゲストハウスはいっぱいある。
このスレはエコノミーホテルスレなので安宿といってもあくまでホテルの話、それも連れ込み可能なホテルがほとんど。
どっちに泊まるかは君次第だが、まずは予算と最低限必要な設備を書こう。
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名無しの学生 :2012/01/09(月) 12:38:47.95 ID:I5XJMj1l
>>102 なるほど違いがあるんですね
水シャワーおkネット無しおkでRCA付近だとどうですか?
104 :
神取 :2012/01/09(月) 15:23:43.99 ID:2U+a1vys
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あ〜い :2012/01/09(月) 15:27:46.47 ID:UGUagH9G
ロイヤルシティーアベニューていうてクラブ街があるとこれす 場所は・・・どこだっけ
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、 :2012/01/09(月) 16:18:22.19 ID:jNwuYC/5
ペッブリ通りから入るとこだね? バンコクコージーの反対側あたり。 予算は1泊いくら?
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名無しの学生 :2012/01/09(月) 16:36:01.26 ID:I5XJMj1l
予算は今バイトをしていてそれ次第ですので安いことが第一ですねw ヤモリとありは耐性あります
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名無し :2012/01/09(月) 19:20:42.92 ID:jk7adQiZ
連れ込まないんだったらゲストハウス体験してみれば? 最近は冷房付の宿もあるからそんなに苦にならないはず
>>109 ラジャ!ありがとうございます
検索かけます
あ、ちがったちがった おちつこう・・・はあ
Majestic Suites はどう? ナナとテーメがメインで7泊予定しておりますん なるべくお安く泊まりたいです
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サルトル :2012/01/10(火) 16:01:22.93 ID:CvhNlD8r
ゲス日本人は来るな
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:2012/01/10(火) 16:13:02.57 ID:Fpe7LMYz
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名無し :2012/01/10(火) 16:16:02.35 ID:2WoLOyem
>>113 狭いのが我慢できるならいいんじゃない?
古くても広い方がいいならナナホテルのほうがいいよ
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神取 :2012/01/10(火) 19:46:08.60 ID:gkhpoHoV
>>113 狭いし、夜はうるさい。
朝飯もマズイ。
あと部屋の鍵をあける度にフロントの兄ちゃんと同行しなきゃいけない。
なぜだか知らんが。。
>>113 何度も泊まってるけど可も不可もなく無難かな
ナナとテーメが余裕の徒歩圏内だから交通費がかからないのがメリット
ホテル前の歩道はフリーの立ちんぼタイ人、反対斜線側にはやっぱりフリーの立ちんぼ黒人
ホテルスタッフが連れ込みに慣れてるから面倒が少ない
エスコート嬢とか出張マッサージ嬢も問題なく呼べた
最安の部屋は必要十分だけど、女の子と交わるにはちと狭い
無線LANが無料で使える(IDとパスをフロントで発行してもらえばOK)
朝食は粗末でガッカリするからホテル近くの屋台かレストランで食った
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v :2012/01/10(火) 21:38:48.10 ID:pQKzy32g
でも狭いものは狭い
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名無し :2012/01/11(水) 00:07:02.22 ID:idYoHrJQ
>>117 >あと部屋の鍵をあける度にフロントの兄ちゃんと同行しなきゃいけない。
>なぜだか知らんが。。
そんなことなかったぞ。カギ壊れてたんじゃないの?
てかなぜか聞けよw
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神取 :2012/01/11(水) 08:03:36.13 ID:wSIjDn94
>>120 そうなのw
みんなそうかと思ってた。フロントもセキュリティ上みんなそうしてるって言ってた様な気がする。
>>83 シティロッジソイ9でバコバコがよろしいかなぁって思ってます
トリッポアドバイザーによると
↓
スーペリアなら騒音も気にならずに睡眠できて
JF、WIFI 無料
朝食付きプランはお金の無駄
セキュアボックスとバスは部屋に備え付け
お近くのアマリブールバードホテルでプールとジムが無料利用可能
で
2chにカキコできますか?
NHK映りますか?
変換プラグ必要ですか?
鍵はフロントに預けるんですか?
以上教えてください
お願いします
それと えくすぺぢあで今ゲットできるクーポンは 10%引き以外ありますか?
124 :
サルトル :2012/01/11(水) 11:10:17.07 ID:1w+UtqMe
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83 :2012/01/11(水) 12:38:48.61 ID:11HsbEjP
>>122 プールは使った事ないので知らん。
騒音は気にならない。私気にしないので。
朝食は入れた事が無い。
セキュリティBOXはナンバーじゃなく鍵タイプなので使いにくい。19はナンバー
バスはある
2chカキコできる
NHK知らん
変換プラグ必要なし
鍵はフロントに預ける
おまえキモい
soi9 NHKは見れませんよ。
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名無し :2012/01/11(水) 20:51:24.72 ID:YAzy6fFs
質問者も怪盗者も金額書けよじゃなきゃ参考にならねーだろ。
129 :
あ :2012/01/11(水) 21:04:37.91 ID:fe/naP/7
>>128 怪盗だから金払わないんじゃね?
ツマンネ〜ゴメソ。
130 :
名無し :2012/01/12(木) 00:59:53.40 ID:AP2PQedO
131 :
名無しさん :2012/01/12(木) 01:15:06.37 ID:d+PgX4UF
>>130 俺も言おうと思ったけど
病気持ちいじるのやめようぜ
132 :
名無しさん :2012/01/12(木) 01:16:31.80 ID:d+PgX4UF
133 :
名無し :2012/01/12(木) 02:27:04.27 ID:AP2PQedO
134 :
名無し :2012/01/12(木) 15:48:05.51 ID:59Fo9Opc
金額って何の金額? ホテルの金額すら自分で調べられないのか?
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名無しの学生 :2012/01/12(木) 16:04:47.65 ID:m0LhCaii
>>109 結局ドミトリーにしました
三泊で1680円ですみました
情報ありがとうございました
136 :
名無し :2012/01/12(木) 18:04:45.81 ID:AP2PQedO
137 :
、 :2012/01/12(木) 23:29:51.79 ID:Wh2dcu6o
ドミはいちいち荷物背負って歩くイメージがあるが、 今はゲストハウスにロッカーとかあるのかね?
138 :
あ :2012/01/13(金) 00:27:34.29 ID:tUUponRs
そんなの店次第だろ
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名無しの学生 :2012/01/13(金) 07:33:54.00 ID:FL8bImgT
>>270 うちはありました
冷房有りネットありシャワーありです
140 :
名無しの学生 :2012/01/13(金) 07:34:22.37 ID:FL8bImgT
141 :
あ :2012/01/13(金) 13:15:48.51 ID:tUUponRs
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名無しのじじい :2012/01/14(土) 15:31:44.14 ID:ojnakP90
マック・ブティック・スィート、臭い臭い。 正月泊まってきたけど、インド人ファミリーが 9割程で、あちこちに奴ら尻グソ付けるもんだから・・・ 未だに匂いが鼻に付いている様な気がする。
143 :
小倉ヒロです(^_^;) :2012/01/14(土) 16:20:58.26 ID:H7yJd6eJ
144 :
ああ :2012/01/15(日) 17:14:51.14 ID:ITgTvkxX
センターポイントターミナル21って DVDプレイヤーついてますか?
145 :
名無し :2012/01/15(日) 18:15:20.46 ID:gGYWZkzn
ついてます
146 :
ああ :2012/01/15(日) 18:22:48.11 ID:ITgTvkxX
ありがとうございます。 2週間後行くのですが、1回泊まってみたいな、と。 今から予約とれるかな?
147 :
: :2012/01/15(日) 18:31:40.85 ID:pw7lkT8l
>>146 ここレスして聞く前に旅行会社に連絡するが
検索して申し込んだ方が確実に早い
この板予約サイトなの? 馬鹿なの?
148 :
:2012/01/15(日) 18:32:19.24 ID:ux/Fl+Rj
>>146 年末年初は余裕でとれたよ。
ただ、チャイニーズが多く宿泊しているホテルなので、春節の時期と重なると、どうなるかはわからないね。
149 :
初訪タイ :2012/01/16(月) 01:15:46.92 ID:W31/h2JP
どこのホテルでも早朝5時にチェックアウトって出来る? 帰りが8時半の便だから渋滞になる前に空港に行こうと思うとそれぐらいの時間になる… 事前に確認が必要だったりする?
>>149 受付員が常駐している限りまずありえない
渋滞怖いならエアポートリンク使うといいですよ
6時始発で所要時間20〜30分なので出航2時間前に到着します。
料金も片道100B
すみません、去年値上げして100B→150Bだそうです。
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還暦 :2012/01/16(月) 02:29:13.37 ID:CTfigxct
>>152 お前ナンも知らんのだな。去年値下げして片道90Bになってるよ。
155 :
還暦 :2012/01/16(月) 08:35:56.95 ID:43JA0rcd
>>149 俺はいつもその時間帯のフライトで6時から6時半にチェックアウト、
タクシーでスワンナプーム空港に向かうが、一度も渋滞なんてないよ。
もう数十回は体験しているから間違いない。渋滞は7時台以降だと思う。
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:2012/01/16(月) 11:12:18.89 ID:BnnxQKvo
>>149 バンコクのホテルは大丈夫、慣れている。
早朝にチェックイン、チェックアウトする、そういうお客さんたくさんいます。
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ー :2012/01/16(月) 11:34:29.06 ID:fnTGoaJw
ただし部屋チェックで2、3分足止め食う事まま有り。 時間ない時はちょっとヤ
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:2012/01/16(月) 12:26:55.11 ID:I7qip+gq
>>157 でも,それで気づかなかった忘れ物をフロントまで持ってきてもらった事が
あるから良い面も有り。
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還暦 :2012/01/16(月) 12:46:08.52 ID:43JA0rcd
>>149 すまん、言い忘れたが。。。3月くらいまではタイの観光シーズン
なので、その時間帯の道路は渋滞しないが、空港の出国審査場はロビー
まであふれるほど大行列になる可能性はある。特に来週だったら旧正月
(中国正月)あるし。
去年のオレの経験では、イミグレ抜けるのに最高1時間ちょっと
掛かったことがあった。
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名無し :2012/01/16(月) 15:44:22.30 ID:pCOUCkvr
>>159 チェックインさえすればイミグレ抜けるのに時間かかっても飛行機には乗れる
航空会社も馬鹿じゃない
161 :
還暦 :2012/01/16(月) 15:55:51.92 ID:vsAniVgY
>>160 それくらいはオレも馬鹿じゃないから知ってる。が、チェックインして
いても乗客を積み残して出発するケースもあるんだよ。乗れたとしても、
出発が遅れて、他人に迷惑かける可能性があるしな。
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名無し :2012/01/16(月) 16:33:42.91 ID:pCOUCkvr
163 :
名無し :2012/01/16(月) 16:37:29.30 ID:pCOUCkvr
>>161 >チェックインしていても乗客を積み残して出発するケースもあるんだよ。
知ってるけど、イミグレが混んでるってことはイレギュラーなケースだろ?
そんなイレギュラーなことが起こるんだったら他にも乗客がたくさん遅れてるってワケ
1人や2人ならまだしも大量の乗客空港に残して飛ぶわけがないてこと
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初訪タイ :2012/01/16(月) 23:17:13.04 ID:W31/h2JP
たくさんのレスありがとう チャックアウト自体は早朝でも大丈夫とのことで安心 アソーク近辺のホテルを考えてるからその周辺は渋滞が多いって聞いたので イミグレの方が大変みたいだね やっぱり早めに空港に行くようにしようと思う 旧正月は勿論外すけど、やっぱり3月までは観光シーズンなのか まあでも洪水の影響があまりないのは良い事だ
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IOP :2012/01/17(火) 01:12:13.60 ID:Ylg89BoI
俺は通算47回タイへ行ってるが2時間前のチェックインで乗れなかったことは一度もない
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アロイ :2012/01/17(火) 09:45:52.75 ID:LSCNfOS+
使えなくなったファーストトラックチケットを10枚も持ってる。 (T_T)
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あ :2012/01/17(火) 10:10:18.19 ID:xsw6om/j
インペリアルクイーンズから徒歩圏内(10分以内)で 高級なホテルはどこですか?
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か :2012/01/17(火) 19:52:46.38 ID:tNa9TzGP
グランドミレニアム懐かしいな 初訪タイの時に使ったけど、今は1泊1000Bで十分w
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名無しの学生 :2012/01/18(水) 10:47:47.24 ID:gWfoTQXF
謝れ!一泊200バーツのおれに謝れ!
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ナナヤン :2012/01/18(水) 22:24:24.37 ID:9ujjVEXx
月曜日の朝のフライトで帰国したけど 混んでないよP
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175 :2012/01/18(水) 22:34:55.77 ID:qpR2xyPl
はっきり言ってバンコクは他の物価との相対的な比較で考えるとホテル代が高過ぎ。 BTSや地下鉄の運賃も庶民の日常生活に必要モノの割にはチョット高いな?と感じるけど、 それ以上に宿代の高さには辟易させられる。(高級ホテルからオンボロ旅社まで全て同じ) あくまで現地の所得や物価水準で考えた場合であって、決して日本円で考えるのではないよ。
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General Custer :2012/01/18(水) 23:12:48.93 ID:1dEsu1um
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名無し :2012/01/18(水) 23:44:04.37 ID:HrdJvJEC
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175 :2012/01/18(水) 23:54:02.92 ID:qpR2xyPl
おおお〜!1〜2年前にバンコクスレのどこだったかに同じこと書いたのオレだよオレ! あの時は散々フルボッコだったの覚えてるけど、おいおい今回もまたかよ(笑) いいか、よ〜く(100万回)聞けよな?日本円で換算して考えるなつーの! バンコク旅行者の4大出費とは「宿代・飲食代・現地交通費・お遊び代」だよな。 「飲食代の例」 ぶっかけ飯が30B(日本人の感覚だと300円)なので日本と同じくらい。 「交通費の例」 市バスや国鉄や船は安めだけど、BTSと地下鉄は高めなので差し引き同じ。 「遊び代の例」 MPがトータル2000Bとして、これも日本の大衆ソープランドとほぼ同じ。 「宿泊代の例」 1000B(日本円で1万円)出してもバスタブがないなんて、アホ杉!高杉!
>>179 3周=あ=TTことミノワさん、あなたの居場所はありませんよ。
それと、コテハンはちゃんとつけてください。
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181 :2012/01/18(水) 23:58:23.71 ID:Eu7OZsm4
なら行かなきゃいい。 とまらなきゃいい。
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ホッピー :2012/01/19(木) 00:04:43.53 ID:TtD4TcOW
>>179 MP2000Bで日本のソープと同じぢゃなんぢゃない?北方謙三が聞いたら怒っちゃうよ。
1000Bでバスタブないのは日本もほぼ同じでしょよ。
バスタブは日本は必須だし、ドヤだってあるよ。2500円/日
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175 :2012/01/19(木) 00:19:40.92 ID:yyH+oUY+
どのスレで何100万回、何億回言っても、
>>182 のような思考になるのが世界7不思議の一つ。
MP2000Bは日本人が日本で使う2万円とほぼ同じ感覚。(だから日本もタイもほぼ同じくらい)
1000Bの宿、つまり日本で1万円も出せば、主要都市の高級ビジネスホテルのデラックスルームに泊まれる。
オレは3月頃にまたバンコクへ行く予定をしているんだけど、あのレベルで1000B(1万円の感覚)を払うのは
悔しくてどうしても出来ない。かといって500Bの安宿でも理屈は同じ。とにかく宿代の高さには泣かされる。
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名無し :2012/01/19(木) 00:32:49.05 ID:2KXfNZ7R
>>183 すべての基準が日本と同じ国なんかねえよ情弱
そんな事言ったら逆に古式マッサージ安すぎだろ
日本なら60分2400B
タイなら60分400B
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暇つぶし :2012/01/19(木) 00:39:36.54 ID:52FeuTwy
>>183 日本で朝までコースのデリヘルあるけど、6万円が相場だぞ
お前の考え方だとタイでは6000Bが相場じゃないとおかしいんだけどな〜
>>183 箕輪保広よ、お前のイカレタ思考回路は誰も理解できないんだよ。
お前は病気なんだkら、はよ病院に行け。
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BB :2012/01/19(木) 11:51:53.86 ID:2lI3mri6
>>183 「日本では○○円出せばこういうサービスを受けることができる。
だから海外でも現地の所得、物価水準で日本の○○円に相当する金額で
同等のサービスを受けることができなければならない!」 って言いたいのか?
んな事あるわけないだろ〜 ポンコツ頭w
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名無しさん :2012/01/19(木) 12:17:41.41 ID:4Ur5yG3h
>>183 つーかまず現地交通費より航空券だと思うけど。ポンコツ頭
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名無し :2012/01/19(木) 13:00:02.18 ID:ZfY+bQ+R
ラチャダーリゾート&スパってJFかかるの?
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175・179・183 :2012/01/19(木) 14:33:22.90 ID:yyH+oUY+
バンコクは、あの家賃のバカ高い香港と同等?いや相対的に見た場合それ以上に「宿泊施設の値段が高い」。 もう10回以上タイに行ってる自分(ちなみに現地ではタイ語しか話さない)の考えは何年経っても変わらない。 ちなみにオレが1日1000Bを使うとすれば、庶民生活レベルにおいて、思う存分飲んだり食ったり遊んだり、 十分に満喫できる。その1日を満喫できた合計額が、一泊するだけで飛んでしまうのである。 それが日本でいうシティーホテルのレベルなら話はわかる。ところがどうだ。たとえばBTS沿線で 1000バーツのホテルではバズタブ付きのそれはまずない。こんなの世界の都市ではめずらしいだろうよ。 いいか?100万回言うぞ。これを「相対的に高い」と言う。経済的金銭感覚のイロハだな。
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名無しの学生 :2012/01/19(木) 14:35:52.05 ID:tKukAq7x
だからオレといっしょに4段ベッドに寝たらいいじゃない
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か :2012/01/19(木) 15:06:28.17 ID:8PsT4J/S
いいかげんだまれや
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名無しさん :2012/01/19(木) 15:23:34.82 ID:4Ur5yG3h
>>191 みんな相対的に見てるだろ?何を見てるかが違うだけで。
それなのに相対的って言葉を押してるおまえの頭はやっぱりポンコツ
経済的金銭感覚ってなんだポンコツ
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BB :2012/01/19(木) 15:49:14.05 ID:2lI3mri6
>>191 もう10回以上タイに行ってる自分(ちなみに現地ではタイ語しか話さない)の考えは何年経っても変わらない。
55555〜 了解! 変わらなくてもいいよ。
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名無し :2012/01/19(木) 16:42:45.73 ID:2KXfNZ7R
>>191 お前タイにしか行ったことないだろ?
タイより物価の安いアフリカのホテルだって
鉄筋コンクリートでバスルーム、冷房、ベッドメイキングありのホテルだったら
安くても日本円で5000円以上はするぞ。
それはなぜだか教えてやろうか?
日本のホテルは日本人が大半
発展途上国のホテルは観光客が大半
つまり、発展時途上国内にあるホテルでもターゲットは富裕層
マーケティングの需要と供給の摂理でその国の物価とつりあわないのは当然
理解できるかなあ?高卒以上ならわかるはずなんだけどなあw
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175・179・183 :2012/01/19(木) 16:45:01.76 ID:yyH+oUY+
そろそろいい加減ウザイだろうから(既に爆ウザ?)最後に皆に下記の進呈をして消えよう。 【1日1000バーツあればこれだけ楽しめる】 @ BTSでお出かけ(30B×往復) A 地下鉄でお出かけ(30B×往復) B 冷房バスで郊外までお出かけ(20B×往復) C クーポン食堂で食事と飲み物(60B×3食) D 果物やツマミ類の屋台でちょっくら買い食い(15B×4回) E 地元民のいくマッサージ店で1時間チップ込み(120B) F 生演奏のある店でアルコール類を一杯(120B) G イケナイお姉さんと一発 部屋代込み(360B) @+A+・・・・・+G = 1000バーツ(あえてピッタリ1000Bに調整した) これだけ遊んで食いまくっても、ショボいホテルの一泊分しかお金がかからないのだ。 あの香港でさえ「@〜Gと同レベルのカネ使いをした場合 > 安ホテルの一泊分」と思われるのに バンコクでは「@〜Gの合計金額 = 安ホテルに一泊した場合の宿泊代」なのだ。 【結論】→ バンコクはおそらく世界一、宿泊代が「相対的に」高い!
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名無しさん :2012/01/19(木) 16:54:58.07 ID:4Ur5yG3h
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BB :2012/01/19(木) 16:55:44.21 ID:2lI3mri6
ご苦労様。
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tr :2012/01/19(木) 16:58:33.95 ID:0lTiQGqb
ds
G イケナイお姉さんと一発 部屋代込み(360B) ありえない
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名無し :2012/01/20(金) 01:08:07.44 ID:M2AFn7To
アンバサダーってネット有料ってあるけど、 無線LANもつかえるのかな? 無線LANあるなら払ってもいいなぁー
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i :2012/01/20(金) 07:48:10.15 ID:dI9lUHWm
鬱憤溜まってるんだろ かんじき履いて村三周しておいでよ
____ / \ / ⌒ ⌒ \ (うわ絡み辛いなあ・・・) / (●) (●) \ | 、" ゙)(__人__)" ) ___________ \ 。` ⌒゚:j´ ,/ j゙~~| | | | __/ \ |__| | | | | | / , \n|| | | | | | / / r. ( こ) | | | | | | ⌒ ーnnn |\ (⊆ソ .|_|___________|  ̄ \__、("二) ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄l二二l二二 _|_|__|_
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旅行者 :2012/01/20(金) 08:40:42.38 ID:5YFR16Fy
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:2012/01/20(金) 14:10:36.83 ID:pEiHS13a
新三羊何たらか?まだ有るの? 何年か前に行ったけど、とても選べるレベルじゃなかったな… 50台のオバサンばっかだったよ。
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スクンビットオンヌットゲストハウス :2012/01/20(金) 19:08:07.11 ID:6vqnpcxB
スクンビットオンヌットゲストハウスはどうですか?
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@ :2012/01/20(金) 21:52:34.82 ID:v9CLcS5K
>>206 あるよ。数ヶ月前に冷やかし半分で覗きに行ってきたけど、いやあ妖怪屋敷そのもの。
ちなみに一番安い女(全体の約半分)で280バーツだってさ。別にチップがいるのかどうかは不明。
日本でいうババ専みたいな風俗なら少しは話がわかるんだけど、それを遥かに上回る妖怪軍団。
ちょっと普通の日本人感覚だとドン引きする。
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名無しの学生 :2012/01/20(金) 22:13:10.04 ID:GB8zUqcq
>>207 オレはそこにした
Facebookでステマすると割引で20%オフになるよ
>>205 可能とか不可能とかそういう問題じゃなくてさ
部屋代込で一発360Bが”楽しめる”とか
たとえ可能であっても楽しむレベルの行動としてありえない
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:2012/01/21(土) 00:10:40.26 ID:7D9wVESi
まだ有るんだね。 正式名称 新三羊冷気茶室 ね。 そっち専門の超熟女フェチには堪らないかもしれないけど、確かに普通の人だと引くわな…
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か :2012/01/21(土) 00:31:36.56 ID:1hSEITPB
>>211 ニューエンパイヤーの横ね
あそこは若い子がいるよ。割り増しで確か550くらいだ
華人のオヤジさんもいい人だし、意外に楽しめる
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質問 :2012/01/21(土) 02:44:49.25 ID:pAg+kva6
ぐぐってるとナナで遊ぶってでるけど、これってナナプラザで見つけた子をナナホテルに連れ込むってことかな ホテルの写真見たけど、日本のラブホみたいなの想像したから拍子抜けしたんだが
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:2012/01/21(土) 06:22:38.90 ID:c6FH4tmq
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名無しの学生 :2012/01/21(土) 06:47:40.48 ID:6DEHMfzw
ベッドどうやっていれたのってくらい狭いよ
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勃起王 :2012/01/22(日) 12:48:31.75 ID:VuMKi8tZ
Age
>>214 別にナナホテルじゃなくてもいい。
自分のホテルに連れて帰るのが一般的。
ナナプラザ内にあるヤリ部屋を使う場合もあるけど、あまりキレイじゃないね。
どっちにするかは、女の子との直接交渉次第。
一部人気嬢や年齢がヤバイ子はヤリ部屋専門だったりする。
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名無し :2012/01/22(日) 20:15:59.77 ID:fHbM7VEU
>>214 ナナプラザで飲んだ時点でナナで遊んだことになる
>>212 3拍600バーツ(JPY 1,628)
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:2012/01/22(日) 22:37:59.92 ID:bet+Lc1O
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名無し :2012/01/22(日) 23:33:23.25 ID:fHbM7VEU
>>221 「手をたたくわけじゃないだろ」な
接続詞はちゃんと入れよう
日本語が不得手じゃないかな
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:2012/01/23(月) 02:15:31.50 ID:ViOLhQea
>>218 なるほど
バンコクに行くんだし折角だから女としたいんだけど、ぐぐっても当然「連れ込みOK」なんて記載はないんだよね
このスレに挙がってるのは大概OKらしいから助かるけど
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:2012/01/23(月) 14:51:31.63 ID:tFrBsBG4
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ん :2012/01/23(月) 14:59:44.55 ID:NO9UStwm
「JFがOKで無料」はおかしいでしょ。 「連れ込みOKで無料」とか書いた方がいい。
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、 :2012/01/23(月) 15:05:19.24 ID:fQ/ZJlfR
>>228 どっちでもいいだろ
うっとおしいやつだな
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名無し :2012/01/23(月) 19:41:29.53 ID:OEPu44EY
ちなみに旅行会社によってJFかかるかからないたまにあるから気を付けろ
航空券が高いなあ
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名無しの学生 :2012/01/24(火) 23:36:38.70 ID:54zQlamD
すげえどうでもいい日本語の指摘してるやつがいるが句読点が無いな なぜなんだぜ?
句読点句読点って言ってる奴がいるけどそんなに大事な事なんだろうか? 句読点がないと日本語じゃないみたいに。 ゆとり教育では大事な事を教えずに句読点ばかり教えてるのかな 英語では最後のピリオドがなければ△がついたりしたけど 国語では句読点がなければ×をつけられるんだろうか
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:2012/01/26(木) 12:00:21.83 ID:yigHgjkC
>>233 大事だよ。
読みにくい。
自分で読み直してみな。
>>233 すもももももももものうち
すももも、ももも、もものうち
どっちが読みやすい?
大事だよ。 読みにくい。 自分で読み直してみな。 大事だよ 読みにくい 自分で読み直してみな すももも ももも もものうち すももも、ももも、もものうち。 どっちが読みやすい? 変わらない
大事だよ 読みにくい 自分で読み直してみな ひょっとして↑の文で、句読点がないとどこで切っているのか,どこで終わってるのか分からない っていうほどのゆとりなのか?
意味が通じればいいんじゃね? 句読点だらけよりは読みやすい スレ違いの言い争いは他所でやってくれ
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:2012/01/26(木) 14:13:20.95 ID:yigHgjkC
R81RYW26←暴れるな
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パス :2012/01/27(金) 18:54:53.41 ID:aafc756L
マックブティックに3泊したのでレポ Wi-Fiは繋がるまで時間が掛かる 別館は壁が超薄いから、隣の声が気になる人は止めとけ 本館はドライヤーが壊れてて、持参のドライヤーを使ったくらいか
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等三輪空寂 :2012/01/28(土) 19:15:21.55 ID:kA46B6nQ
ドライヤーを持参するのか?竿が乾く暇もないってか?
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パス :2012/01/29(日) 00:41:46.57 ID:8pNzmMxv
一応、糞女子なんで
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◆5EJ71eKlNQ :2012/01/29(日) 00:42:46.60 ID:L60v6+Qk
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パス :2012/01/29(日) 00:45:17.20 ID:8pNzmMxv
え?wwwww
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ナマステ〜 :2012/01/29(日) 01:22:22.98 ID:0FhYecCK
あのホテル インディアンだらけで汚い汚い。 奴らクソをしても甘拭きしかしないで 尻グソを趣味の悪いゼブラ柄のソファーに 擦り付けるもんだから臭いのなんの。 安ホテルが故、ハウスクリーニングも適当で 擦りグソ やターバンの中のフケ、揚げ句に白癬菌だらけの 老化角質(足の裏よりボロボロ・・・) ダニの温床になるのは言うまでも無い。
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◆5EJ71eKlNQ :2012/01/29(日) 01:23:24.29 ID:L60v6+Qk
>>245 え?じゃねえよ肉便器w
危ない海外板だここは
海外旅行板じゃねーんだよwwww
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パス :2012/01/29(日) 03:49:33.51 ID:nRLlGIOu
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◆5EJ71eKlNQ :2012/01/29(日) 03:59:19.40 ID:L60v6+Qk
>>248 日本語が理解できないなら消えろ
FACK YOU!
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パス :2012/01/29(日) 04:38:49.41 ID:nRLlGIOu
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名無し :2012/01/29(日) 07:20:46.68 ID:96k9vrU+
FUCK=○ FACK = プッ w英語出来ないなら無理すんなカスww 糞女子は先ずおっぱいうpしろや。話はそれからだ。
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パス :2012/01/29(日) 09:10:17.04 ID:MBL3UO+J
まぁ、カスなりに頑張ったんだからwwwww
1 :水先案名無い人:04/03/31 11:07 ID:qK2anATL ちょっと前、あるネットゲームで出会った外人との会話。 外人 『Japanese! Japanese!』 俺 『うっせえよ毛唐、英語が世界の共通語とかナチュラルに思ってんじゃねえよ』 外人 『hmm…』 俺 『Fack you』 外人 『oh』 外人 『miss spell』 外人 『Fuck you』 俺 『Fuck you』 外人 『good!』 その後、一緒に冒険に出かけ、友人になった。
女子でもいいじゃないか 日本男子がオンナ遊びするのは当然アリだから 日本女子がオトコ遊びするのも当然アリだ 某MPで帽子+サングラスで顔を隠した女が入ってきて コンチアに日本語と英語交じりで話をして サイドの嬢を選んでエレベーターに乗り込んだのを見たことあるわ MPでレズビアンとは、、、プレイを拝見したかったですな
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BB :2012/01/29(日) 10:32:21.36 ID:hk1s7O1y
249頑張れ!
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:2012/01/29(日) 10:57:03.36 ID:QlbtJ41+
箕輪君、日本の女の子に敵対心剥き出しだね。 何か過去に嫌な目にあったんだな。
もりあがってまいりました。
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BB :2012/01/29(日) 11:11:34.66 ID:hk1s7O1y
原付大好きFACK箕輪、頑張れ!
>>251 おいおい
センサーかかるからと思って
FACKってわざわざ綴ってるんだろ
ただ
英語が出来ても
ここは
4chanではなくて2chan
英語出来ようが出来まいが頭が弱いのは容易に推測できるがな
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:2012/01/30(月) 19:04:08.57 ID:UnJ6rEyS
勃起age
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あ :2012/01/30(月) 20:01:58.73 ID:lCoWaETg
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:2012/01/31(火) 12:38:40.76 ID:DkP/H0gp
シティーロッジはAgodaやエクスペディアで予約するより 直接HPでパッケージプロモーションから予約する方が安いな
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あげ :2012/02/14(火) 07:22:20.88 ID:u/7giB4b
age
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sageまん :2012/02/14(火) 16:26:12.39 ID:YEJ3Or6l
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世捨て人 :2012/02/15(水) 01:35:53.80 ID:wF1nSiku
4月に2週間行く予定なんだがシティーロッジぐらいのとこで 長期連泊だと超割引してくれるようなとこないかな サイトで探すと3連泊とか7連泊ぐらいだと割引設定あるんだが それ以上となるとマンスリーになっちゃうんだよな 1泊だと4000円ぐらいなのが2週間連泊だと1泊あたり2000円ぐらいに 値引きしてくれるようなとこあれば教えてちょ
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:2012/02/15(水) 02:19:15.50 ID:R3suEmWZ
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まろーーーーーん :2012/02/15(水) 02:26:04.15 ID:WWBKsh3U
SEX依存の男のほうが、容易く人気者になれる理由はーーーーー(何かの出る幕が用意のある能天気)・・・・・ 本当の事を言うと、人殺しだからだと言うね。。女の子に取ってこさせるのは貴重な「わ〜〜〜い」物 なんだあ・・・・・全然魅力ないけど。。。。。不思議な様相ぼーーーーーちゃん・・・・・・・・・・だって。。つけあがりだもん あんな子達。。。。。 依存症の女もいるけど。。滑稽だわ・・・・・・・・・・(狡い女のかかる症状。。いてもたってもいられない)(つけあがり) 男の子のほうは。。依存度が高ければ高いほど。。意外と男の子好きの病気みたい・・・・・・・・・・ ま^^〜〜〜能天気にも。。そんなモノ鴨ネ・・・・・・・・・・能見台さん・・・・・・・・・・タイプはドヤの過去を持つ男、、ですね・・・・・・・・・・ マンコスリーゲストハウスなんて^^^^いいんじゃない??? で〜〜〜〜〜は〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜 お給料取りめ・おお 〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜飯沼あきら^^^^^^^^^^ の共同の牛・・・・・・・・・・タイプね・・・・・・・・・・
>SEX依存の男のほうが、容易く人気者になれる理由は ここまでしか理解出来ない
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タイ大好き :2012/02/15(水) 07:36:21.11 ID:wF1nSiku
2人でタイ旅行の場合なんだが普通にホテル予約すると2名分の料金じゃん 1名でダブルの部屋借りて、チェックインしたあとから連込みを装ってもう1名が入ったら1人分の料金でOKなのか? タイって1人でもほぼダブルの部屋だよね そいでJFフリーも多いし フロントでID預かるとこもあるらしいが 連込むのが風俗嬢とは限らんよね 旅先で意気投合した日本人を連込むこともあるっしょ 申し込みの時点で偽ってるので黒なんだろうがJFフリーとなるとグレーとも取れる 判定よろしく ついでにもう1つ質問です 正規料金のお話ですが ホテルの料金 → 頭数に比例して課金される サービスアパートの料金 → 部屋ごとの料金なので2人でも同じ値段 基本これであってますか?
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sageまん :2012/02/15(水) 07:59:01.20 ID:L+T1DhF1
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名無しさん :2012/02/15(水) 08:22:26.32 ID:G/crL0Tj
>>270 料金システムを勘違いしてないか?
日本のホテルは1部屋2名利用で1名様○○円だが
タイのホテルは1部屋○○バーツが基本
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し :2012/02/15(水) 10:21:37.85 ID:SVAX/EU1
また脳内旅行者か…
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オレ :2012/02/15(水) 10:57:47.96 ID:7J6yEkzV
>270 見たいなのが現れると、、もう春だなぁ〜と実感する コレからが学生の初海外旅行が始まり、始まり
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オレ :2012/02/15(水) 11:02:34.76 ID:7J6yEkzV
そういえば>270は 「物凄い勢いで誰かが質問に答える」スレの>920でも 初心者な質問をしていたな
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ん :2012/02/15(水) 12:56:38.66 ID:AKKxJYnP
>>270 質問はわかりやすく簡潔な日本語でどうぞ。
それと、人に物事を聞くときの態度がなってないと、まともな回答はもらえません。
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名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/02/15(水) 15:04:57.28 ID:r9RT7Gxd
>>270 お前は先ずタイに行く前に日本語学校へ逝け
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名無し :2012/02/15(水) 15:16:26.48 ID:u4CQlOkb
いろいろ調べていたが
>>272 のおかげで氷解した
ありがとう ありがとう
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名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/02/15(水) 18:40:23.59 ID:02C14J8W
マック・ブティック泊まってきたけど ダニに噛まれた、 フロントに言ったがマイペンライだと。
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オレ :2012/02/15(水) 21:28:37.86 ID:7J6yEkzV
ダニって英語で言った、、いや、言ったつもりなら、、、通じない
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p2-user: 883934 p2-client-ip: 61.90.40.191 :2012/02/16(木) 00:36:03.51 ID:WIB1U9s3
マジェスティックスイートの隣のビルのTOP INNからp2使ってテスト 飛び込みで1200B 部屋は30u弱位か? Wi-Fi無料 セーフティーBOXは部屋に無し ナナプラ側の部屋なんで音はズンズン聞こえる 割と小奇麗で意外と穴かも??? さて、これから軽く徘徊してくる アディオス
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名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/02/16(木) 11:10:39.53 ID:HaAxhUDa
>>282 部屋狭くね?
以前泊まった時、狭いなぁと感じたモレ
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名無し :2012/02/16(木) 18:32:59.91 ID:WIB1U9s3
マジェスティックスイートの隣のビルのTOP INNからp2経由で書き込みテスト
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名無し :2012/02/16(木) 18:36:28.54 ID:WIB1U9s3
ゴメン。本文が残ってたw マジェのストゥディオよりかは確実に広いと思うけどね。
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名無し :2012/02/16(木) 18:50:24.22 ID:WIB1U9s3
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名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/02/16(木) 19:10:44.42 ID:pCoFXD1w
>>285 やっぱり狭い
マックブティックの方が広い
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a :2012/02/16(木) 19:28:50.14 ID:KiWPDNdX
>>287 マジェスティックスイーツとマックブティック混同してない?
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名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/02/16(木) 22:56:40.25 ID:fLeYXCJR
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世界三週済み :2012/02/17(金) 01:09:32.02 ID:m8+DANef
700Bならスゲェー泊まりたいと思ったけど。 1200ならちょっと割高だね。 確かにGOGOバーやそのお店の嬢の水着がタダで見れると思えば 部屋からコンビニで買ったビール片手に窓で雰囲気得えながら風情を感じるのもありだとは思うけれど、 1200でどうかと言えばかなり高い。 1000Bぽっきりでバーから離れたところ でホテルがあればそれを紹介しなさい。 窓なしの1000Bは知っているが(部屋は広く、バスはスケガラス) さすがに 1000Bで広くて窓のある部屋はないのかな?
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名無し :2012/02/17(金) 09:25:46.86 ID:ROq8BztF
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名無し :2012/02/17(金) 09:38:29.87 ID:ROq8BztF
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世界三週済み♪ :2012/02/17(金) 17:37:13.91 ID:m8+DANef
>>291 さん。
たいがいアパートは数カ月契約で初めて下がるものではないでしょうか?
当方、1カ月単位でいろいろな国へ旅行しています。
ナナコンドはその辺700Bで日単位で滞在できますが、幽霊が怖い。
そこでナナコンドクラスで何か良いホテルを知っていないでしょうか?
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世界三週済み♪ :2012/02/17(金) 23:40:31.82 ID:m8+DANef
700Bならそこらじゅうにありますね。 サビアパでなくて簡易ホテルで でも、部屋広くて窓大きい? 地区的にナナ近辺がよろしいです。カウボ近辺は 存じてますので。 この立地で1000Bというと どこに泊まりますか?
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ああ :2012/02/18(土) 00:21:12.31 ID:GiHV658r
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バカな三週みのわ :2012/02/18(土) 01:31:21.87 ID:0k2H9P50
三週君はお金なくて、大変な変態w 早く死ね
中学生が頑張って書いた文章みたいだな お前には似合わないぞ
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:2012/02/18(土) 09:01:14.95 ID:yQWkNbff
サビアパ…
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蜜汚 :2012/02/18(土) 11:44:10.76 ID:LN28mI+/
カウボ・・・
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nanashi :2012/02/18(土) 13:54:40.25 ID:9XJ6DOB4
ナナ駅1分 マキシムズイン750B 但し部屋は狭い。アゴダが取り扱うようになってから予約しないと泊まれなくなった。
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:2012/02/18(土) 15:04:27.01 ID:ncAuYpR3
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nanashi :2012/02/18(土) 15:22:42.85 ID:xdX6LYNz
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nanashi :2012/02/18(土) 15:23:19.75 ID:xdX6LYNz
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なまえ :2012/02/18(土) 15:36:54.16 ID:ANwBLoHk
プロンチットのシバテルバンコクほてるは、 8000Bだけど、サービスも部屋も良かったよ
>>305 マンスリーかと思ったらデイリーかよww
よっ、大統領!
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:2012/02/18(土) 23:36:00.10 ID:zQJfaheb
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チョンマルロ :2012/02/19(日) 02:01:48.15 ID:/8NgDLRK
やっぱりナナコンドがいいの? でも、いつだったか 日本人が事件起こしたよね?
日本人が娼婦刺殺して飛び降り自殺した 他にもタイ人が首つり自殺したり
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初心者です :2012/02/19(日) 05:52:07.98 ID:kvRkGXIi
海外に初めて行きます。 ナナプラザに毎日行きたいのでナナホテルに泊まろうかと思いますけど ネットで予約しようと見たら53ドルでした 確かに高いです
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チョンマルロ :2012/02/19(日) 05:59:29.91 ID:/8NgDLRK
恐ろしいですね。 泊まるのも怖いです。それでは、一体どこに泊まればよいのでしょうか? 予算は1200b以下がいいです。
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@ :2012/02/19(日) 06:57:38.49 ID:eQ2Wk3JS
>>311 はいスクンビット周辺は恐ろしく高いです
貴方にはカオサンロードの宿がお勧めです。1200B以下でも沢山あります。お友達のチョン頃達も沢山居ます。
>>311 自分で調べることができないなら、GOGO嬢やタニヤ嬢に聞けばいいんじゃない?
ここにいるツーリストよりもホテルに関しては詳しいんじゃないかな
少し郊外行けば1200B以下なんて腐るほどあるのに
俺からしたら1泊1200Bなんて高いわ
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名無し :2012/02/19(日) 08:56:57.60 ID:Isls7LKD
>>313 >自分で調べることができないなら、GOGO嬢やタニヤ嬢に聞けばいいんじゃない?
じゃあここは何のためのスレ?
>>314 ミノワマンの荒らしを除いて
>>1 から見なおしてごらん
質問するなら宿泊地域、予算、日数ぐらいは書かないと答える気にならない
質問よりも口コミがメインでしょ
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26歳 :2012/02/19(日) 11:55:02.52 ID:awuesbLv
今日はミノワ君の誕生日。26歳のパンパカパーン♪。 今日からは、世界三周済みかららったったと名前を変えてる。 うちの子がご迷惑かけます。隆雄
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ナナヤン :2012/02/19(日) 12:45:47.29 ID:KswMIJe5
20代半ばで タイにはまるって かなりヤバイよね(>_<) 東南アジアは20代が行く所じゃないでしょ!!
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q :2012/02/19(日) 13:36:23.33 ID:xvoGDln0
>>317 いや逆だろ
東南アジア行ってる若い人はあんたの売春旅行とは違うんだよ
嬢もおっさんよりも若い人のほうが楽しいだろうし
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:2012/02/19(日) 13:45:26.94 ID:gmKzbMDc
嬢という言い方はおっさん臭いのう
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あ :2012/02/19(日) 13:58:41.05 ID:jzy60Nyf
若い奴が行くとオキニ取られちゃうってか?ww 若い奴らより財力あるんだから頑張って囲えよおっさん共w それと、AVと現実の違いぐらい理解しろよww タニヤの女からいつも愚痴聞かされるぞ
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名無し :2012/02/19(日) 14:26:15.51 ID:DHZUpoX0
タイへは20代の頃から頻繁に行ってるけど 若い奴が行くとオキニ取られちゃう??? それ逆なw タニヤはしらないけど、全般的に 若い奴が財力のあるオッサンにオキニ取られちゃうってのはよく聞く話。 ってか、ナナスレにもよく出てくるけど、 売春婦に金いらないとか言われて「自分だけ特別扱い」と勘違い しちゃって浮き足立ってるのは微笑ましいけどみっともないよw ”普通の日本人”ならだれでも経験あることだからwww
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名無しさん :2012/02/19(日) 14:43:33.42 ID:NLHoZ+wg
>>321 そもそも若い奴らにオキニなんてないだろ
お互い気に入れば普通の友達になるんだが
スレ違いは帰ってね ミノワマン誕生日おめでとう
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それが現実 :2012/02/19(日) 16:34:02.07 ID:/8NgDLRK
どうやら、若者が遊ぶ方が主流のようですね。この流れは 40代以降のおっさんは結局金でしか囲えないようです。 若ければ、若い程楽しいのが海外 それが現実です。 実際、若者で溢れていますよ。タイは。 おっさん達へ、一度若者を連れて遊びに行ってみなさい。 女の子はみんなかっこいい男に笑顔を振りまくから。見比べてみて。
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名無しさん :2012/02/19(日) 17:01:01.76 ID:9TUzm+jj
まるで324はかっこいい男みたいな言い方だが かっこいい男はどこでももてるだろ タイでかっこいい男を見かけることはマレだな。 てか相手は売春婦だろ? なんでそんなに必死なの?
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@_@ :2012/02/19(日) 17:16:38.92 ID:0Rxpnnzj
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名無しさん :2012/02/19(日) 18:20:22.15 ID:9QOBRI+E
あまりいぢめるなよ…
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:2012/02/19(日) 18:28:32.36 ID:70f4Jysb
つーか、今だマックブティックなんかに泊まる奴居るのかよ。 散々悪評出てるのに。
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ミノワマン誕生日 :2012/02/19(日) 18:34:55.18 ID:awuesbLv
さぶいさぶいイープン 、チョンマルロ、らったった、それが現実 とかハンネをいくつも変更♪ ミノワマン誕生日にいかに興奮してるか、わかっぺ? 名前も誕生日も晒されて、バカなヤツw
330 :
ピセーク :2012/02/19(日) 19:27:05.27 ID:b9T/Z5iJ
>>312 ホンマに何も知らん知的障害者ですか?
妄想旅行者やろw
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それが現実 :2012/02/19(日) 20:10:37.67 ID:/8NgDLRK
>>325 >タイでかっこいい男を見かけることはマレだ。
それ本当? キミの経験が浅いだけじゃない?
じゃあ、オヤジたちを拒否する嬢がいるのはなんでかな?
かっこいい男を探している女がいるのはなんでかな?
それが現実だよ。
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↑こいつTT=ミノワマンだったのか! :2012/02/19(日) 20:26:51.84 ID:9TUzm+jj
相手にしたのがバカだった
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nanashi :2012/02/19(日) 21:36:34.52 ID:hifdaXRH
>>307 JFは無い IDは預ける
女が帰る時にはフロントから確認のTELが有る
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それが現実 :2012/02/19(日) 22:16:06.90 ID:/8NgDLRK
そう悪い部屋ではないが 予約しないと泊まれないの? 750Bの部屋に窓はある? 恐怖に打ち勝てればナナコンドも悪くないのだが、
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307 :2012/02/20(月) 01:40:48.10 ID:PNfZCJHh
>>333 ありがとう
飛び込みでも大丈夫ですか?
自分は通常、マイアミとルアムチットを利用しています。
価格帯は同じくらいですので、今度泊ろうと思います。
それから朝からチェックインできますか?
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307 :2012/02/20(月) 03:40:39.78 ID:falyuwBd
名前:まだ :2012/02/16(木) 14:38:47.45 ID:xAmIo2eO タチレクは衰えたとはいえ、まだ16からいるよ 不細工だけど 455 名前:kr :2012/02/16(木) 14:50:04.18 ID:NDzLqPpU メーサイのゲートから(100mくらい?)見て左の道に看板の明かりが 付いている店にミドルティーンがいてフットマッサージしてもらった。 さすがにオイルとかねぇよな… 456 名前:まだ :2012/02/16(木) 17:26:36.10 ID:FtVW7akR まあ、一晩くらいは退屈しない珍しい町だよ。 夜はひっそりでゴーゴーとかバービアとかまったくないけどな。 457 名前:まだ :2012/02/16(木) 17:47:53.41 ID:FtVW7akR チェンライのゴゴーは2店だね。 DEEDYとLOBOで競ってる。 どっちも結構きわどいサービスしてるね。 油断すると支払い1000バーツいくね。 女の子はドリンクだけが収入だからくれくれ攻撃すごい。 たいがい月1万バーツ行くらしいよ。
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nanashi :2012/02/20(月) 11:49:55.56 ID:xXpFqx7K
>>335 昔は飛び込みでも平気だったが、最近Agodaが扱い始めたみたいなので(当然割高)
結構人気が有るらしく予約無しではキツイと思う。直接予約すれば確実。
以前、シングルで予約しておいたら、当日空き部屋が全然無くてトリプルルームにUPされたw
朝食はABFかお粥付き。無いよりマシなレベル アーリーチェックインはした事が無いので分からん。
直接メールして問い合わせてみては如何だろうか?
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nanashi :2012/02/20(月) 11:58:48.90 ID:xXpFqx7K
昔はボロ宿だったんだが一昨年に客室を全面改装したらしく 値段は据え置きで案外オススメ(但し部屋は広くない) 同じソイのワールドインやスターインよりかは断然良いが。
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名無しさん :2012/02/20(月) 12:13:59.08 ID:Zp9m3yLE
窓無いと火事の時とかのことを考えると正直怖いよな バルコニー付きじゃ無いと止まりたく無い エアポートリンクの駅が近いマッカサンFXってとこ泊まった事あるけど、 窓付いてても開閉できない窓で、洗濯が全くできなかった 狭いけど内装綺麗でリーズナブルなんだけどね
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置いただけ :2012/02/21(火) 20:56:14.68 ID:KKGySvr+
>>339 そんなあなたにはワタナマンションがオススメ。
test
342 :
ああ :2012/02/22(水) 21:58:12.36 ID:Dy7bXN9b
センターポイントターミナル21にDVDプレイヤーあった? 何処にあるの?
343 :
初心者ですか・・・ :2012/02/23(木) 02:04:42.55 ID:JhMz8DYm
>310
344 :
名無し :2012/02/23(木) 08:00:29.76 ID:3fjvmLLJ
345 :
名無し :2012/02/23(木) 08:51:24.03 ID:3fjvmLLJ
346 :
置いただけ :2012/02/23(木) 09:59:58.70 ID:BsdK+9m9
347 :
タニヤの通行人 :2012/02/23(木) 13:05:50.64 ID:D2CnHzdd
>>346 オレは長期契約者用の部屋(高層階&洗濯機・IHコンロ付き)に泊まった
が、DVDプレイヤーはなかったと思う。長期契約の入居者が決まってから、
設置するのかな?
348 :
@_@ :2012/02/23(木) 17:48:13.20 ID:4zer/nLr
先日GCP・T21を初めて利用した。 駅&T21に直結していて立地は最高だったけどあの内装は寒々しくて あまり好きにはなれない。ベランダが無いのもマイナス。 立地以外はCP・シーロムの方が好きだ。DVDプレーヤーも洗濯乾燥機も 標準装備だし・・・
349 :
ああ :2012/02/23(木) 17:51:28.13 ID:ZHAFhRt+
>>346 >>347 ありがとう。
前にどっかのスレで質問したら、あるよ。って言われたので、
変だなって思っていたので。
まあ、短期でも泊まってみたら良いSAだったので
次も泊まろうと思ってる。
上からソイカがよく見えた。
350 :
名無し :2012/02/23(木) 17:53:35.65 ID:3fjvmLLJ
つうかDVDなんて必要か? そんな重要じゃねえだろ女とAVでも見て変態プレイする気か?
351 :
名無し :2012/02/24(金) 02:28:29.13 ID:pYYbwOIB
DVDより部屋に電子レンジが有れば…
352 :
ああ :2012/02/24(金) 04:34:36.86 ID:YtoZEVtF
>>351 センターポイントターミナル21は短期でも
レンジあったよ。
353 :
@_@ :2012/02/24(金) 09:04:14.42 ID:oUVMYKpO
>>350 映画やタイ歌のVCDを観るという発想は無いのか?
まぁ大して重要でないことは確かだが・・・
354 :
名無しさん :2012/02/24(金) 10:02:34.43 ID:5roMg6Va
>>353 DVD買ってまで見たいのなんてないよ
万が一見たくなってもノートPC持ってくから必要ないし
355 :
@_@ :2012/02/24(金) 11:00:17.13 ID:oUVMYKpO
>>354 そんな君にはホテルのDVDは不要だろうね。
でもみんながノートPC持って行くわけじゃないからね、
DVD買って映画を観たい人もいるんだよ。
電子レンジだって洗濯乾燥機だって使わない人にとっては
無用の長物だもん。
356 :
名無しさん :2012/02/24(金) 11:27:18.18 ID:5roMg6Va
>>355 いやいや、お前は俺個人に対して
>映画やタイ歌のVCDを観るという発想は無いのか?
って言っただろ?
だから個人的なことを返したんだよ。
>DVD買って映画を観たい人もいるんだよ。
そりゃわかるけど、ノートPCの方が遥かに便利だぞってことを言いたかっただけ
357 :
名無しさん :2012/02/24(金) 12:21:33.27 ID:7OU1Zphd
>>356 スマートフォン遣っているとノートPC要らない派
DVDプレーヤーあるSAに泊まるのが常になっている
358 :
名無しさん :2012/02/24(金) 12:31:16.56 ID:5roMg6Va
まあDVDプレイヤーのために宿を制限するのも自由だよ
359 :
:2012/02/24(金) 13:07:16.38 ID:ZKlHEhTN
>>357 スマホあるからノートpcいらないとか(失笑)
360 :
:2012/02/24(金) 15:43:01.05 ID:UTpXpnQn
部屋にDVDプレイヤーが無いと泊まりたくないって!? なら、買え。 1000Bも出せばお釣りがくるだろうよ。 不要になったら女にあげちゃえばいいだろ。 逆にこんなの要らないって断られるってか?
361 :
774 :2012/02/24(金) 16:00:39.90 ID:wsEjCckN
もうメンドクサイから、すぐ横のシティーロッジsoi19に泊まっちゃえよ 部屋にDVD備え付けてあるから。 ハイこれで解決♪
362 :
ガイヤーン :2012/02/24(金) 16:25:14.36 ID:y1CLIQWa
DVDプレーヤー、マックブティック程度の 陳腐なホテルでさえ有るよ。 ただ、あそこ冷蔵庫が無く小さな保温庫だけ、 クソ暑いバンコクでは致命傷。
363 :
か :2012/02/24(金) 16:37:21.26 ID:Iknn8v+O
おまえらへ ロイヤルビューリゾートランナムすげーよかったぞ バスでどこでも20b以内でいけるしナイトバザーたくさんあるし無料の朝食が美味い そういや美味いと旨いの違いってなんだ?
364 :
? :2012/02/24(金) 18:52:27.34 ID:Uq+Cx6Id
>>363 危ない板にふさわしくない素敵なホテルの様ですな。
どうぞ隣の海外旅行板で存分に広めて下さい。
365 :
か :2012/02/24(金) 19:24:13.80 ID:Iknn8v+O
>>363 ググッたら宿泊料3000円台でお得だな
このスレに書くのならJFとIDチェックの有無を教えろお願いします
367 :
異邦人 :2012/02/24(金) 20:06:29.18 ID:5Fx6/sJm
今時、クソ重たいノート抱えて海外とか(爆笑
368 :
名無し :2012/02/24(金) 20:20:24.95 ID:4f/XL0ku
>>367 前は15インチワイドのラップトップ持って行ってたけど
プチプチでグルグル巻きにして服の間に挟んで
スーツケースに入れて預けてたよ。
特に今まで壊れたりとか問題無かったけどね。
370 :
名無しさん :2012/02/24(金) 22:24:48.81 ID:5roMg6Va
>>367 2kgもしないようなノートPCがクソ重たいとかどんだけ貧弱なんだよw
371 :
名無しさん :2012/02/25(土) 00:34:14.98 ID:P1NcYMZC
ノートは無いとダメだなぁ。 個人的にはスマホがノートの変わりになるとか言ってる奴はステマだと思ってる
372 :
異邦人 :2012/02/25(土) 06:21:17.87 ID:BZT3cER4
373 :
名無しっす :2012/02/25(土) 08:14:17.72 ID:t83XuEUm
スマホ持ちだけども、Web閲覧するならやっぱノートの方が見やすいし、文字打ち込むのも楽だよね。 そんなんで、訪タイする時はミニノートも持って行きます。
374 :
わ〜 :2012/02/25(土) 09:44:31.87 ID:T17ORahe
ノートPCは当然使い易い。でもわざわざ持って行くのはなんか面倒だな〜 現地で仕事しなくちゃならないなら必須かもしれないけど・・・ Web閲覧&少しの文字入力くらいなら小型のタブレットかスマホで十分だと思う。 2〜3日に1回ネットカフェに行けば十分って人もいるだろうし、要は普段の生活 でPCやネットに依存している度合の差だと思う。
375 :
か :2012/02/25(土) 10:45:25.16 ID:wlHfIaMa
タブレットにキーボードつないで使えばいいのに
なんでいちいち人のことそんな気にするの?
377 :
わ〜 :2012/02/25(土) 13:10:10.86 ID:T17ORahe
>>376 「なんでいちいち人のことそんな気にするの?」
他人のことが気にならないならそんな質問するな。
378 :
異邦人 :2012/02/25(土) 13:14:23.71 ID:l/sAWHg7
で、いつまでスレチ続けるわけ?
379 :
れクストン :2012/02/25(土) 15:08:26.41 ID:3BHTWuSD
パソコンは重さよりかさばりが気になる今日この頃 俺の場合 超長期で旅行するから 沈没するときは暇つぶしにパソコンが欲しい。 普段の超タイト旅行の時はパソコンはおろか本も持っていかない。 パソコンで集めた情報をプリントアウトして持ってくのに加え、BPハウスで すべて情報を仕入れるから。 結局、長期者も貧リーマンも 昼間何をするかでその是非が問われるんだよね。
380 :
名無し :2012/02/25(土) 16:01:50.58 ID:Pr2en0dK
最近、プレジデントパレスはもうすっかり飽きられたみたいだな。
381 :
リビン Qストン :2012/02/25(土) 16:05:13.64 ID:ttwF/wJY
382 :
うむ :2012/02/26(日) 02:09:44.91 ID:7X0zJg5m
部屋の電子レンジはチンする為じゃないよあれはとっても有効活用でk おっと、こんな時間に誰かが来たようだ…
383 :
う〜ん :2012/02/26(日) 12:05:10.21 ID:afSEiz2J
チンしない=作動させない ってことか・・・ それじゃただの箱だろ。 どんな使い方なんだろ?
384 :
さ :2012/02/26(日) 13:52:16.77 ID:djbNU9mn
薬物をあぶる
385 :
うむ :2012/02/26(日) 14:08:23.91 ID:7X0zJg5m
違うよ、家の電子レンジを良く良く観察してごらん。 構造上中に何かを入れれるよね 当たり前だけど… そしてその中に何を入れるかは貴方の自由 もちろんレンジのコンセントは抜いておく これで解らなければエロに関する情熱が足りないw 電子レンジこそ神のツール。
386 :
名無しさん :2012/02/26(日) 14:12:42.26 ID:VJyaju6s
盗撮かよ…バレてケーサツと結託されてアボーンされないようにな
何言ってんだこいつ 電子レンジは食品を温めるためのもの 何かを入れるものじゃないぞ コンセントを抜いたら温まらないし 馬鹿なの?
388 :
名無しさん :2012/02/26(日) 14:23:16.57 ID:9jizSr4E
あたまいいなお前w
389 :
:2012/02/26(日) 14:24:25.25 ID:sG7+fSqT
390 :
うむ :2012/02/26(日) 14:37:12.01 ID:7X0zJg5m
最近のコンデジの性能と比較するとこんなズーム無し低解像度の糞カメラは使えないw これ以上は荒れそうなので去るわ おまいらくれぐれもしない様にw 以上チラ裏すまそ
391 :
う〜ん :2012/02/26(日) 14:57:38.91 ID:UFPhf9jm
レンジの扉(フタ)越しで綺麗に撮れるもんなのか? アングルにも問題があるし・・・ 使えないな。
392 :
名無し :2012/02/26(日) 15:21:06.77 ID:u22yeyE6
393 :
名無しさん :2012/02/26(日) 15:28:18.62 ID:VJyaju6s
コンセント抜かれたレンジが不自然な位置に置いてある時点でバレバレなんだが…
相手に分からないと脳内判定している
>>390 がアホなのはよく分かった
>>389 コンセントを抜いた電子レンジをタイマーがわりに使うのか
なるほどね
395 :
う〜ん :2012/02/26(日) 16:25:47.32 ID:UFPhf9jm
396 :
名無しさん :2012/02/26(日) 16:28:59.07 ID:ZtKlw1lY
>>394 申し訳ないが、馬鹿にも分かるように解説よろしく
397 :
名無しさん :2012/02/26(日) 23:49:34.02 ID:IK24OI4z
>>396 昔のレンジはコンセント抜いてもダイヤルだけ回って時間が来るとチンと鳴る
398 :
名無しさん :2012/02/27(月) 03:26:49.78 ID:VEqVWIUJ
電子レンジって普通電磁波?が出ないように
窓の所にも網目状に鉄が貼ってあるでしょ?
>>390 やった事あんの?
>>389 それ持ってるけど全然ダメ
5回くらい使って壊れた。
解像度はキーレス型と同じだと思う
399 :
名無しさん@ :2012/02/27(月) 07:20:32.71 ID:Nb2u2Ta0
400 :
名無しさん@ :2012/02/27(月) 07:47:24.91 ID:Nb2u2Ta0
401 :
名無しさん :2012/02/27(月) 08:34:47.61 ID:f8h/DKJO
402 :
:2012/02/27(月) 08:42:38.55 ID:dnNKfT78
バックの向きに神経質になるとバレル
403 :
名無しさん :2012/02/27(月) 10:16:50.53 ID:f8h/DKJO
>>402 たしかにMPだと棚の位置やら微妙な店もあるが
ホテルなら女がシャワー行ってる間にセットアップだ
404 :
:2012/02/27(月) 11:54:16.48 ID:cdO1qiQu
>>401 売女がアンタの財布から金を抜く現場を押さえるわけですな!
405 :
名無し :2012/02/27(月) 12:23:17.91 ID:S+toOr8r
406 :
あ :2012/02/27(月) 12:25:31.01 ID:IqCYsyoz
なんかビデオ撮るのに躍起になってるのが笑える というのもあちこちのホテルでおまいらのセクロス撮られてんの知らないのか? DVDで売られてんぞw
407 :
ん :2012/02/27(月) 13:18:10.70 ID:J2bGT4dv
>>406 誰も躍起になってないよ〜
みんなで遊んでるだけだよ〜
君、バカじゃないの〜
408 :
sage :2012/02/27(月) 13:36:36.96 ID:dtH8cGf7
散々撮って最終日寝坊して、あわてて設置したままチェックアウトして帰国した俺ガイル
409 :
名無しさん :2012/02/28(火) 13:58:11.98 ID:hEQmDTrs
それだけはやりたくないわ
410 :
あ :2012/02/28(火) 14:11:55.40 ID:Juo3vS1u
おまいらのブタみたいな身体で小柄なタイ娘とヤッてる動画たくさん売ってる おまいら御用達のあのホテルで撮られてるの知らないのなw
411 :
ぁ :2012/02/28(火) 14:55:36.91 ID:/yL8+dKi
必死に煽ってるけどどうかしたの?
構ってもらいたいんじゃないか?
413 :
g :2012/02/28(火) 22:21:26.21 ID:iIYaeOiL
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414 :
鬼姦坊 :2012/02/29(水) 14:43:45.40 ID:VvQawRlc
盗撮したって、部屋の明かりを消されたら良く映らないでしょ? コソコソ撮ろうとしないでダメ元で交渉してみろよ。 +1000BでたいがいOKしてくれるぞ。顔出しNGが多いがな。 その場合は顔にタオル掛ければいい。 ただし、ピストンしながらカメラアングルをあっちこっち動かすのはチト疲れるがなw
415 :
ななし :2012/02/29(水) 17:28:28.68 ID:91pGUpCd
ばかか? 顔隠してどうすんだよ、部屋の灯りを消させないようにするんだよ。 ピストンしながらならカメラアングルどころか、ブレまくりだろ。
416 :
ほんとか? :2012/03/01(木) 09:43:42.80 ID:jBShXrEj
417 :
名無しさん :2012/03/01(木) 11:13:17.49 ID:2LcgYXTn
俺も俺が写ってるなら記念に買いたい
418 :
露店で買いますた :2012/03/02(金) 17:17:36.33 ID:zdaM8ZoO
日本人らしきオッサンとコンタイのエロDVD(正確に言うといろんなタイ人モノのVCDの詰め合わせ)見たよ。 でも明らかに隠し撮りって感じじゃなかったけどな。
「隠し撮り」と称するエロ動画が本当に隠し撮りである可能性は(ry 「のぞき」と称するエロ動画が本当にのぞきである可能性は(ry 「素人ナンパ」と称するエロ動画が本当に素人ナンパである可能性は(ry
420 :
kix :2012/03/02(金) 21:07:36.91 ID:4Rbj23oB
俺が見たのは隠しどりとか書かれてなかたけどな
421 :
z :2012/03/03(土) 10:00:20.78 ID:idyfHAIR
暇潰しにDVD買って見てみても、古いやつをタイトル変えて売ってるだけだろ 結局要らないから捨ててきちゃうけど。
422 :
名無しさん :2012/03/07(水) 23:06:06.03 ID:4nuY4AU+
タイのエロDVDってモザイクあんの?
423 :
さか :2012/03/08(木) 00:34:27.22 ID:JEnew2eS
424 :
K :2012/03/09(金) 22:42:16.01 ID:dAmS+jkr
425 :
425 :2012/03/15(木) 13:42:20.37 ID:s2nEEXJh
>>335 マキシムズインにメールで聞いてみたよ。
もし部屋空いてたらアーリーチェックインはおkか?
以下返事
Dear Sir,
Thank you so much for your interest to stay with us.
For check in time by 02.00 pm. If you would like to check in at 05.00 am.
must pay for 1 night before.
We look forward to hearing your reply to make reservation as soon.
Best Regard,
Big
隣のソイのパークホテルはアーリーおkなはず
426 :
むむ :2012/03/15(木) 17:34:06.16 ID:+eD7K8lc
>>425 横ですまんが朝5時にチェックインできるけど、一泊分の料金かかるな。
アーリーチェックインもレイトチェックアウトも、半日分が相場とオモテタ。
427 :
オレ :2012/03/15(木) 20:46:52.06 ID:n7GPYymX
05.00 amは早すぎるんとちゃうか? アーリーチェックイン:06:00〜 or 07:00〜 レイトチェックアウト:〜18:00 が多いと思う あと1時間待てば半額じゃないか
428 :
某国の航空職員 :2012/03/15(木) 21:03:37.99 ID:kFkFFrVx
>>427 お前どこ行っても相手されてないなw
かわいそうだから、1時間待てw
429 :
:2012/03/16(金) 15:56:38.15 ID:+Qppnyff
マキシムズインなんて宿泊料安いんだから1泊分でも半日分でも払っちまえばいいじゃん。
430 :
名無しの学生 :2012/03/16(金) 23:26:06.82 ID:PHTGuPnX
ナナ駅の横にソイ9あるやん?そこの奥に赤い倉庫が三つくらい並んでるやん? そこノックすると鍵開くやん?中にクーラーボックスがあるやん? ・・・・・・・・・・・な?
431 :
さ :2012/03/16(金) 23:31:14.27 ID:ug8inzHb
432 :
:2012/03/17(土) 10:06:06.16 ID:34pEBIfZ
>>430 お前、意味不明だし面白くも無いからもういいよ。
433 :
名無しの学生 :2012/03/17(土) 19:39:44.77 ID:veBlKMG0
>>432 ゆとりwww
ナナプラ近くのセブン(マック横でないほう)の向かいに路地がある
そこに安ホテルがいくつかあって午前3時でもチェックインできる
料金は660バーツのところだけ知ってるがお湯シャワーテレビエアコン有り
たぶんWi-fiもできる
434 :
や :2012/03/17(土) 19:59:31.34 ID:DR162G2t
>>433 やり部屋みたいなもん?
ソイカのヤリ部屋なら泊まったことあるが中はきたなくないしお得だよな
435 :
名無し :2012/03/17(土) 21:09:45.50 ID:ZICOspSp
>>434 立ちんぼとかが使うショート用のヤリ部屋だよ。
SoiDBで検索すると結構出てくる。
436 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/03/18(日) 06:44:44.56 ID:NE5xyNe/
>>430 俺も意味が分からない
ソイ9って車が1台通れるだけの狭いソイで
あの辺の露店の資材や在庫をストックした物置しか無い筈だけど
437 :
エロガッパ :2012/03/23(金) 00:57:30.27 ID:aOl+Nali
>>436 その辺りは危険地域!
命が惜しければ、近寄るべからず。
北詰めがパークホテルに通じる抜け道
なのだが、途中の物置の中には恐ろしい量の
ヤク(ヤーバ、ヤーアイス、etc)を隠していた。
ボスは中華系タイ人のマフィアらしいが、
アフリカンの若者2人組を売人にしたてて
昼間から売りさばいている。
奴ら普段はソイ4のグレースホテル前付近に
タムロしているが、2人1組の土人グループが
少なくても5〜6組以上は居る。
日本人のカモと見るや『も・し・も・し〜』と
すれ違い座間 必ず後方から声を掛けてきたが、
最近は『ア〜ユ〜 コリアン?』と声を掛けて来る。
奴ら曰く日本人は朝鮮人(劣等民族)の事を嫌ってる
から、スグに訂正の反応をして来てヤクの売買話しを
進めるらしいが、それは逆効果だと説明しておいた。
健全な若者達よ、暮々もご注意あれ。
438 :
ま :2012/03/23(金) 01:08:10.22 ID:bHMAWA5t
>>437 どこが危険なのかさっぱりわからなかった
439 :
あ :2012/03/23(金) 01:20:13.37 ID:rzBjrLul
バンコクがストリートビューで見れるようになったな
440 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/03/23(金) 05:20:25.24 ID:dWOt8RGN
>北詰めがパークホテルに通じる抜け道 抜けられませんが何か? soi7/1とコノ字で繋がっていてるだけ
441 :
名無しさん :2012/03/23(金) 16:43:49.94 ID:aBO1UQeX
でもソイ9の奥から変なあんちゃんがスタンガンバチバチさせながら歩いてくるのは見たわ。 先月
マキシムズイン泊まってきました。 ■良かった点 ?x2022;ナナ駅、ナナプラから至近。スクンビット沿いもラチャダー沿いも行きやすい。遊びの拠点としての立地は最高。 ?x2022;すぐ近くに高レート両替店 ■悪かった点 ?x2022;シングルルームはヘアドライアーなし。レンタルもなし。 ?x2022;テレビの映りが悪い ?x2022;洗面台が壊れて使えない ?x2022;近くにコンビニがない ?x2022;朝食のバリエーションが少ない。パンと卵が嫌なので毎朝粥。 ?x2022;ロビーに不良外人多い マイナス面が多くなったけど、それでも立地を考えれば十分いいんじゃないの? でも次はないかな。少し外れてる代わりに同じ値段ですべてが完璧なホテルがあるのでそこ一択で行きます。
443 :
さ :2012/03/23(金) 19:27:48.60 ID:bHMAWA5t
444 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/03/24(土) 08:10:53.99 ID:tkwcgiqb
>>442 コンビニはソイ5か11まで行かないと無いよね。ま、歩いてすぐだけど。
でもWiFi無料だしコスパは高いと思う。
オープンバーのおっさんもフレンドリーで、
ビール飲みながらネットしてマッタリするのも悪くない。
445 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/03/24(土) 08:17:36.98 ID:tkwcgiqb
ちなみに客室向けのWifiはtrueで2ちゃんに書き込み出来ないけど ロビーのはプロバがloxinfoなんで書き込み出来る。
446 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/03/24(土) 10:37:20.10 ID:uZ2Ys35N
パークホテルは安くて地の利が良いので 数年前から定宿で使っている。 アソーク方面から徒歩でホテル戻る際に ソイ9を使う確かに薄気味悪い路地で黒人の 姿をよく見掛ける。 一瞬、ここはニューヨークのブロンクスかと 勘違いするほど大勢がタムロしている時もある。
447 :
a :2012/03/24(土) 13:03:45.45 ID:c4HOIKeQ
普通はsoi11から出入りするだろうに。 てか、ネタはイラネ google map見るとsoi9に抜けれる様に見えるけど実際は壁で塞がれてるしw
448 :
ピ愚問 :2012/03/24(土) 14:30:42.87 ID:dfPZSQBF
449 :
ななし :2012/03/25(日) 00:05:15.63 ID:RYI8b9MH
agodaでサリルホテルsoi11が有るんだけど、ググってもsoi8とトンローしか出て来ない。 公式見てもsoi11なんて有りゃしない。多分新規オープンするのかな? 場所はG.Pの真ん前でマックブティックの裏口に通じる路地辺りみたいだから悪くは無いと思う。
>>448 今、1泊1500Bもするのかよ!随分値上げしたもんだな。
何年か前に外観がガラリと変わったから、おおよそ予測はしてたけどね。
451 :
ホーチュナ ホテル :2012/03/25(日) 07:44:28.95 ID:f1YG4HnS
これは知らなかったな ・Restaurant and coffee shop (Thai, Japanese and Western foods - open 24 hours) ・Check in 24 hours 今でも朝食ビュッフェってまだやってるのかな?朝から和食とかガッツリ食いたい人におすすめ 99Bだったような記憶が有るが、確か値上げした筈だけど幾らか忘れちゃった
452 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/03/26(月) 13:37:55.44 ID:+0ake0EC
453 :
あ :2012/03/26(月) 20:50:11.53 ID:3yT9zhEW
>>451 今もやってるみたいだよ。
139Bって、ホテルの前に横断幕掲げてるよ。
454 :
い :2012/03/26(月) 21:59:23.49 ID:4YhEHQro
フォーチュナーとグランドタワーinトンローは日本人の親父率が非常に高かったけど 相次ぐ値上げラッシュでリピーターもだいぶ減っただろうな
宿泊代が値上げラッシュなの?
456 :
い :2012/03/27(火) 02:16:34.65 ID:1w5dsSWU
昔に比べたらね 98年頃は両方共900B位だったかな? ゲンタワァーなんて今じゃ2000位じゃなかったか? 両方共に値段の価値無いよ
457 :
い :2012/03/27(火) 02:25:16.56 ID:1w5dsSWU
あのナナホテルだって確か880Bとかだったよ 一時期軒並み値上げ傾向に有った
458 :
bama :2012/03/27(火) 11:05:56.30 ID:vjZm28TH
僕もナナホテルがB900くらいのときに宿泊したことがある。 安宿ばっかに泊まってて、初めてのナナホであまりの快適さに涙した...
459 :
とんする :2012/03/27(火) 11:53:19.61 ID:MftJjY7s
ごめん、水をさすわけじゃないんだけど、ナナホテルそんなに快適だった? 自分は値段を考えたらちょっとと思ったんだけど。。。 連れ込んだナナ嬢にも汚いと不評でちょっと落ちたorz。
460 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/03/27(火) 12:17:14.79 ID:4l+yB5vz
>>458 よう、オレ!
自分はナナホテルじゃないけど、全く同じ思いをしたのは生涯忘れない。
独房のような窓もなく、ベッドの真ん中がくぼんだ、シーツにもダニがいる、シャワーは水しか出ない、
そんなGHばかり泊まってたんで、ホテルのツインルーム(一人利用)を利用した時は、この快適さは
ありえんくらい贅沢の極地だと思ったわ。
日本での場合でも、ほとんどサウナ・カプセルしか泊まらないので、東横インに初めて泊まった時も同じ。
461 :
山田うどん :2012/03/27(火) 12:30:29.14 ID:mp/YiZXp
昔、マッカサンのバンコクパレスホテルの2階にMPが有ったんだよな・・・ 夜中の3時位まで営業してたと思う。 ペップリーのエンガラやハーレムも当時その時間までやってたんで 深夜到着しても重宝してたわ。ボリMPだけどカワイイ子も居て以外と穴だった。
462 :
あ :2012/03/27(火) 12:32:41.72 ID:T62v1hqg
ナナプラザで毎日遊ぶんですが…やっぱりナナホテルがいいですかね?他にありますか?教えてください
昔からここ2チャンネルでは ナナプラザで遊ぶならJWという人がいた JWでは ナナプラザサイドをオーダーするように 反対の高速道路サイドはさびしい JWからナナプラザ、モーニングナイトバーへの見下ろし感がよいのだ
464 :
名無し :2012/03/27(火) 21:39:26.87 ID:YiQb+FJO
>>462 ダイナスティーインもいいよ。新館をチョイス
465 :
ライト兄弟 :2012/03/27(火) 23:41:41.38 ID:d7ToZHCn
マジェスティックもいい。
467 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/03/28(水) 01:07:44.98 ID:OEcOdxoj
ゴールデンチューリップ マンディソン スイーツ どうですか? プロモーションでJF無し5000円切ってるんですが 他にロイヤル プレジデントも気になってます
468 :
い :2012/03/28(水) 02:21:45.87 ID:u4GM4vYI
プール行くならロイプレはやめとけ
469 :
名無し様 :2012/03/28(水) 02:31:54.05 ID:dIBDq7dv
男ならラジャホテルで決まり
470 :
:2012/03/28(水) 06:36:33.66 ID:KPj4tR3K
プール使うなら俺もラジャに一票。 誰も居ないプールで思う存分飛び込みでもバタフライでもやってくれ。
471 :
ん :2012/03/28(水) 08:45:32.16 ID:Z4lNyWSc
ラジャー!
472 :
あ :2012/03/28(水) 09:04:28.60 ID:jMg2J8WJ
ラジャ( ̄▽ ̄;)怖がりなんで無理です(照)ダイナスティにしよかな〜でもナナホの場所が気にいってます
473 :
5 :2012/03/28(水) 13:42:48.67 ID:ZuU+dh50
top innもいい。
474 :
名無し :2012/03/28(水) 13:51:55.62 ID:9M9BiDrG
ヘブン@4 ホテルやイビスはどう? 泊まった人雰囲気きぼん。
475 :
z :2012/03/28(水) 13:56:58.70 ID:fHF2w+mz
476 :
a :2012/03/28(水) 19:51:12.67 ID:6L80TtWn
>>474 ヘブン@4は泊まった事あるけど、禁煙で窓無し。
綺麗なラブホって感じ。お値段は1500Bだったかな。
477 :
名無し :2012/03/29(木) 01:25:03.58 ID:mU3Nz9ii
>>476 ありがとう。
1500か〜、微妙かな?
478 :
そいか :2012/03/29(木) 01:54:28.05 ID:Vq3Ir/Mz
>>474 イビスは本当に日本のビジネスホテルって感じ。わざわざ泊まりたくはないかな。
479 :
南スーダン :2012/03/29(木) 02:02:22.84 ID:acTx9/x4
マック・ブティックも20年前の 地方のモーテル風、しかも薄暗い。
480 :
メーカラーエアライン :2012/03/29(木) 12:47:17.90 ID:yUW2SU5E
ヘブン@4昨年12月泊まったけど、良かったよ。窓無しは無理な人多いと思うけど。 ほんとラブホみたい。場所とスタッフは良かった。冷蔵庫の飲み物のんだのに、余りのフリードリンクチケット で相殺してくれたのなんかビックリしたよ。 イビスとかロイヤルアイボリーまで行くのはちょっと面倒くさい。
481 :
名無し :2012/03/29(木) 13:17:12.32 ID:mU3Nz9ii
>>478 ,480
ありがとう。
イビスは綺麗で安いって書いてるから聞いてみたけど、
次はヘブンにしてみる。
やっぱりスクンビットに近い方が昼間の移動にも便利だしね。
482 :
a :2012/03/30(金) 17:03:52.06 ID:V5E2hH9H
>>481 >やっぱりスクンビットに近い方が昼間の移動にも便利だしね。
そこでTOP INNですよ。お値段1200Bバスタブもありの部屋はある。
WIFIフリーね。
今でもマッサージ+性的サービスがあるホテルってある? やっぱそういうの狙うのなら安宿かな?
484 :
:2012/04/01(日) 08:33:31.10 ID:QWmBVB1I
>>482 のトップ・インや隣のパークウェイ・インはマッサージ屋併設してるから有りだよ
でも、オバさんばかりだけどなw
soi11/1のプレジデント・インも1FがJOB&JOYっていうマッサージ屋になってるから有り
隣のバンコク・インの下のバイポーは健全店なので不可
手か本番なのかは相手にもよる。確実に本番が望みたければsoi23のタイパンH前に何軒か有る
年齢層は高いし選べないからあまりお勧めでは無いけどね…
若くてカワイイ子なら日本人向けエロ古式かな
485 :
あ :2012/04/01(日) 17:05:18.90 ID:ugAoD4VJ
ヘブン@4は連れ込み料&IDチェックはどうですか?あと部屋は綺麗ですか?
ggrks
487 :
で :2012/04/07(土) 14:21:42.41 ID:4hdhwLBD
4月1日からバンコクの最低日給が300バーツになり増々値上げが行われます。 元々300バーツ以上の日給だった従業員も賃上げされサービス業は 価格に上乗せでしのげようとするでしょう。 バンコク圏の輸出関連企業は20万社が国際競争力を無くし潰れるとも予想されてます。 秋頃には地方でも最低給料が300バーツになります。
>>487 まじ?今まで低賃金で馬車馬のように働かせてたのがいけなかったか?
ここ10年くらいでBKKの物価も上がったし仕方ないよ
490 :
とんする :2012/04/07(土) 21:01:08.58 ID:6f9Yvp1C
300bでも女工哀史すぎる。 いままでいくらだったの?
>>490 今までは215THB/日(バンコク)だった
屋台で30Bの食事してバス2回も乗れば日給の半分が消える
492 :
とんする :2012/04/08(日) 01:38:06.04 ID:xQ0BxKaF
215Bかよ550円くらいか。 しかもそれ税引き前だろ。。。
215THB/日という最低賃金もタイで一番物価の高いバンコクのみ 他の地方ではもっと少ない
494 :
ん :2012/04/08(日) 13:49:59.64 ID:53bnGeS+
バンコクの最低賃金が1日いくらとか、我々が聞いてもあまりパッとこないしほぼ無意味に近い。 それよりは時給で働く典型的な仕事、バンコク市内にも数多いマクドナルドや7-11の時給が今現在いくらなのか? が知りたいんだけど、その情報があまりにも少ないから不思議だ。ネットでもほとんど語られない。 尚、一般サラリーマンの場合は日本と違って、入社当時と5年後さらには10年後の管理職になった場合など、 その差があまりにも大きいし、タイには平均という概念がないので比較がむずかしいんだよね。
495 :
おれ :2012/04/08(日) 14:11:08.13 ID:rqYgjLQn
ことし2月にGG女に聞いた内容だと 7/11が36B/Hだった GG女からの又聞きでGG女が何時時点の自給を言ってるのかは知らん テーメ女 これは2年前 工員で200B/Dと言っていた(残業を目いっぱいして300B/D) 給料日前にはショートするのでテーメに来て客を探すが 見つからなければ24時の終バスで帰ると言っていた サラリーマン これは直接の知り合いがいないので知らんが 女の兄が サラリーマンで幾ら給料をもらっていて親に幾ら渡しているとか 話題の中で 出てくるが2〜3万だった覚えがある
496 :
とんする :2012/04/08(日) 14:21:13.25 ID:xQ0BxKaF
だいたい先の洪水のせいで経済成長が鈍化したし 今年は治水対策で税金1兆円を投下するんだろ。増税が起こりそうな。 こんな状況で賃上げなぞして国内企業の体力が持つのか? リストラ頻発で若い女がさらに性産業に流入ってことになりそう。。。
497 :
っs :2012/04/09(月) 16:40:35.81 ID:PMEIO7XX
コールセンターで働いてる日本人の時給が200バーツ TGのCAが月収3万バーツ以上 月給制では日給×30日で計算する。
498 :
:2012/04/10(火) 06:06:31.98 ID:qkxJRzjU
日本語コルセンOPなんて月給25000B位だぜ
499 :
っs :2012/04/10(火) 17:09:59.51 ID:aOGn0ol7
日本人を雇用する時の最低賃金は3万バーツなんだけど。
500 :
名無し :2012/04/10(火) 18:10:43.88 ID:6nrOcyP7
501 :
名無しさん :2012/04/10(火) 18:45:06.18 ID:Is2N9sqN
確かに現採にはねーな
502 :
とんする :2012/04/10(火) 20:39:33.43 ID:HAjW1UBh
25000Bて手取りいくら?
503 :
:2012/04/10(火) 21:49:44.45 ID:2U6BAacd
>>499 コールセンター業務は特例で規制が緩いって知ってる?
WPも簡単に発給されるしタイ人の雇用人数も少なくていいんだぜ
504 :
名無し :2012/04/11(水) 07:44:42.70 ID:7C6Md1bt
505 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/04/11(水) 08:14:28.17 ID:l7Nyw1gm
賞与年2回支給(入社1年経過後。業績連動型。) ウェルカム手当(渡航費補助。日本からの渡航者に対して入社1年後に21,000バーツ支給) ボーナス6(勤続手当。入社1年後より半年毎に支給。12・18ヶ月目8,000バーツ、24ヶ月目以降10,000バーツ) ボーナス6も出るのか 時給700円の俺より良いじゃん ;−;
506 :
とんする :2012/04/11(水) 10:10:55.92 ID:AFKDB3Ke
ボーナス6ヶ月って意味じゃないぞ。。。 半年ごとに2万円。 MP2,3回行ったら終わり。
507 :
ななし :2012/04/11(水) 12:32:00.60 ID:hJCR1UYR
給料もだけど、ボーナス安いなぁ…
508 :
ななし :2012/04/11(水) 12:37:09.54 ID:hJCR1UYR
ていうか
>>505 の今どき時給700円ってどんな仕事だよwww
20年前の俺が高校生の時の時給と一緒
賞与は業績連動型とあるから、賞与とボーナス6は別じゃないのか? ボーナス6は勤続手当とあるし。
510 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/04/11(水) 12:56:02.24 ID:l7Nyw1gm
>>506 6ヶ月って書いて無いから不審に思ったんだがそういう落ちかw
>>508 田舎じゃ時給650円とか普通にあるw
しかも、交通費でないw
511 :
ななし :2012/04/11(水) 13:22:24.23 ID:hJCR1UYR
>>510 地方と首都圏じゃ、えらい格差有るな
こっちじゃコンビニや牛丼屋でさえ1000円だ
深夜なら1200円って貼り紙してある
513 :
名無し :2012/04/11(水) 13:54:44.08 ID:ImO6NcqU
514 :
。 :2012/04/11(水) 13:59:02.39 ID:2Ywho0uV
九州は安いんだよな。 福岡・博多でも700円台で募集していて驚いた事がある。 そんな田舎暮らしの奴なら、バンコクでコルセン勤めも有りじゃないかと思う。
515 :
ななし :2012/04/11(水) 14:11:30.78 ID:hJCR1UYR
>>513 そうだね
夜中にコンビニ行くとバイトは大抵中国人
516 :
名無し :2012/04/12(木) 11:02:22.78 ID:/ZZWKXND
都会に出て来るも、不況・リストラ・派遣切りで職を失い ホームレスになり掛けた時の最後の手段。バンコクコールセンター勤務
517 :
あ :2012/04/12(木) 13:38:03.16 ID:1YxOqTWW
>>515 自分の家の近くと会社の近くと、どちらも都内だけど、日本人従業員だけのコンビニやファストフードって
マクドナルドを除いて皆無といえるほど外国人(中国人?)が多い。居酒屋チェーンなども同じ。
518 :
わ :2012/04/12(木) 14:41:45.82 ID:SpQDptrm
>>516 実際そんなのばかりだろ
日本でも行き場の無い連中
519 :
マスターピース :2012/04/12(木) 20:36:20.81 ID:mB4dOY8c
がんばる貴女を全力でサポートします。
1日10万円稼げる集客力が自慢です。
業界トップクラスの注目店!
『10日間プラン』★60,000円×10日=600,000円★
交通費、宿泊代を全額‘負担します‘これなら安心して働ける♪
http://masterpiece24.com/
520 :
ji :2012/04/13(金) 04:23:34.68 ID:hwrrUsS3
521 :
名無し :2012/04/13(金) 08:08:10.64 ID:fG44Oh/b
いつからここは現地採用のスレになったんだ?
522 :
とんする :2012/04/13(金) 10:10:16.44 ID:uqFddg/s
6万B保証されるならバンコク住みたいね。 でもそこを25000で押さえられてしまうカラクリってなんなんだ?
523 :
aaa :2012/04/13(金) 14:22:16.27 ID:B/Gm8Xm+
524 :
aaa :2012/04/13(金) 14:25:23.85 ID:B/Gm8Xm+
あ、税制は対象外だな。すまんw
525 :
名無し :2012/04/13(金) 16:29:16.00 ID:qVaRzLhO
526 :
新着レスの表示 :2012/04/14(土) 23:27:12.49 ID:MkhpVVaj
528 :
名無しさん :2012/04/15(日) 00:52:39.44 ID:gScL+d2J
>>526 すげ〜、日給30万。
でも放射線量の規制とかで毎日働けないんだろうな。
529 :
新着レスの表示 :2012/04/15(日) 07:30:12.27 ID:28NbRhmD
>>529 いや、高いと安いの日本語を間違えた と苦しい言い訳
531 :
お :2012/04/15(日) 15:46:29.82 ID:ISIzqWaW
532 :
レンタルサーバー \877/2TB/100Mbps :2012/04/18(水) 11:25:07.09 ID:O+pu11Hf
放射能は体に良い! 万病予防に放射能!
533 :
爺 :2012/04/28(土) 23:11:48.88 ID:HdxPV/8A
5/3から5/6まで連休を利用してバンコクに行きます (二回目) スクンビット界隈の夜を楽しむつもりなのでナナとかソイカウボーイ近辺で探しています 日本人に遭遇すると話しかけてくるので面倒なんですが GWってどこのホテルも日本人が多いんでしょうか? 日本人がいないような穴場のホテルってありますか?
>>533 グレースホテル or ラジャホテル w
普通話しかけねーよ。 よっぽど話しかけて欲しいような顔して歩いてんじゃねーの?
536 :
名無し :2012/04/29(日) 02:48:01.50 ID:o32b9QEi
年寄りほど日本人同士で群れたがるんじゃないか? 俺も面倒なので無視してるが
537 :
z :2012/04/29(日) 03:19:49.59 ID:tEGtzg1i
>533 別に穴場じゃないけどシタディーン系はどこも 東洋人少なめじゃないかな
538 :
名無し :2012/04/29(日) 06:32:33.05 ID:cB5aTiMd
539 :
爺 :2012/04/29(日) 08:04:55.92 ID:70lB07Us
>>534 調べてみたけど、それはちょっと・・
>>537 ありがとうございます
シタディーン系は候補に挙げていたので考えてみます
>>538 マルチしてないですよ
もし似たような質問書いてる人がいるとすればそれは違う人です
541 :
かんと :2012/04/29(日) 18:45:03.82 ID:RlYhXPZh
マッサージパーラーの金魚鉢を見てて日本人と出くわした時は嫌な気分になるよな
542 :
:2012/04/29(日) 19:37:21.17 ID:FfYRvQZl
MPで会って、帰りの空港で会う事に比べれば
543 :
ore :2012/04/29(日) 21:38:16.86 ID:hBE8l08w
爺が日本人と会うのが面倒だと、、、 日本人が集まる場所に行って日本人に遭遇したくないとは、 少々 勝手すぎるんじゃないか。。。
そもそも行き帰りの飛行機の隣は十中八九日本人だろ そっちの方が嫌じゃないのか?
545 :
爺 :2012/04/29(日) 23:05:58.75 ID:70lB07Us
色々考えた結果シタディーン バンコク スクンビットソイ23を予約しました 前回親切に色々教えていただいた日本人の方がいたんですが、今回は自分の判断で動きたいと思ったので・・ 気分を害した方がいたらごめんなさい
546 :
:2012/04/29(日) 23:07:51.75 ID:FfYRvQZl
>>545 情報少ないので帰国後にレポお願いします
>>545 気分は害してないが「日本人に遭遇すると話しかけてくるので面倒」というのが理解できない
社会と断絶した暮らしをしているんじゃないの 普通の人なら、話しかけられたくらい適当にあしらえるでしょ
550 :
:2012/04/30(月) 02:11:12.29 ID:OlnFUABG
適当に流して終わり。 現地で誰かとつるんで遊びたいとは思わない。 友人知人と同伴しても、どちらかが妥協して気を使うのに 見ず知らずの他人なら尚更だな。 やっぱ、好きな時に起きて、好きな時にメシ食って、好きな時に好きなだけ遊ぶ方が快適。 俺はいつも一人で訪タイして単独行動だ。
つうかシタディーンってバストイレ別だから日本人に結構人気あるような気がするんだが
>>551 何度かSoi23を利用したけど、シャワーの部屋はトイレと一緒だったよ。
バスタブ付きの部屋もあるらしけど、そっちは泊った事がないからわからない。
部屋はきれいで使いやすいけど、ベッドの幅が小さめだから寝相の悪い二人なら窮屈かも。
SAだから電子レンジや大型冷蔵庫があるし、コストパフォーマンスは良いと思う。
デラックス以上がバストイレ別っぽいな
554 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/05/02(水) 18:34:17.57 ID:d+lRM8VM
普通の宿に飽きてヤワラーのチャイナタウンホテル(?800B位?)に泊まったけど 結構面白かったよ。 夜は通りに中華系の露天が沢山出て、毎日海老の姿焼きやフカひれ(1000B位?)、ツバメの巣(300B位?)食ってたよ。 時間に余裕あるひとはお勧めかもよ
555 :
かんと :2012/05/02(水) 19:12:02.03 ID:1Y7oxUCT
>>554 チャイナタウンは水没してたけど大丈夫だったの?!
556 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/05/02(水) 19:18:13.09 ID:tsnr/c5Z
ヤワラーなら「スリクルンホテル(シークルンホテル)(京華大旅社)」はどうよ?
557 :
かんと :2012/05/02(水) 19:32:20.83 ID:1Y7oxUCT
>>556 前のドブの臭いが凄くて
てかヤワラーはそんなに安くないし交通の便が悪いし
558 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/05/02(水) 19:48:16.14 ID:d+lRM8VM
>>555 水害前の話だから分からん。
でも大丈夫だろ、あそこの住民の生命力は尋常じゃないw
>>556 京華大旅社は知らんな。
もしかして150B〜400Bクラスの宿?
>>558 シングル600B、ダブル700Bからだよ
物凄く古〜いホテルだけど、設備はソコソコ
560 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/05/02(水) 20:31:17.76 ID:d+lRM8VM
>>559 ふ〜ん。大昔に日本人が沢山たむろしてたって言うとこかな。
今度行った時に泊まってみるかな。
ところで、パッポンやナナのおネエチャンさそって、ヤワラー屋台つれてったけど、
複雑な顔するのは何故?
生粋のタイ人ていうのは華僑が嫌いなのかね?それとも単純に辛くないから嫌なの?
>>560 逆に言えば、華僑の娘なら飲み屋では働かないってことだよ。
ゴーゴーバーの女の子は家計が苦しいからそんな所で働いてるわけで。
ナナの女の子に聞いたらファミリーマートのバイト代って月6000Bって言ってた。
562 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/05/02(水) 20:47:05.23 ID:d+lRM8VM
>>561 そっか〜。
やっぱり華僑には複雑な思いがあるんだな。
一人のパッポンの仔はトンブリーに住んでて、連れて行ってもらったことがある。
こじんまりしてたが、可愛く飾っててベッドやステレオ揃えててえらく自慢してた。
(俺の部屋より確実に物揃ってて、きれいだw)
トンブリーってどんな感じの街なの?
質問ばかりでスマン。
563 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/05/02(水) 20:47:49.69 ID:NKFtjlRi
ヤワラーの宿はエンパイアが最低ラインかな
>>562 トンブリーは結構郊外だよね。
東京で言ったら八王子とか立川って感じじゃないのかな?
異論は認める。
>>563 ヤワラーもね、駅の反対側には奇麗なゲストハウスがあるよ。
一泊300Bくらい。
でも水没しただろうから、湿気でダニとかでるかも。
566 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/05/02(水) 21:00:01.53 ID:d+lRM8VM
>>564 葛飾、足立って感じかなって思ってたけど、違うのか。
あの仔は頑張り屋で少々見栄っ張りのところあったからよく理解できるよ。
葛飾、足立の人怒らないでね。
567 :
とんする :2012/05/02(水) 21:23:02.23 ID:XiGzC31K
華僑って客にも礼ひとつ言わないから俺は嫌いだね。 なんであんなえらそーなの?
568 :
S :2012/05/02(水) 22:11:14.10 ID:T2C8g99q
なんでスレ違いな話するの?
569 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/05/02(水) 22:50:48.69 ID:thAv3saR
なんともタイ度数の低い奴が出てきたもんだな マイペンライ!
palazzoのwifiからテスト
palazzoで1日400Bのwifi使用中 速度はそこそこ 動画とか見なけりゃ不満無し チェックイン時に受付で申し込むとIDとパスワードが書かれた紙をくれる
572 :
あ :2012/05/03(木) 22:19:29.20 ID:D3/0Ai6R
PPT、センターポイント2400Bのキャンペーン出てたけど 急に無くなったんだけど何かあったのかな?
573 :
PPT :2012/05/03(木) 23:16:31.95 ID:IkJ0mglT
申し訳ありません 仕入れ値で掲載してしまい訂正しました
574 :
七十 :2012/05/04(金) 03:19:56.00 ID:Oj47lriP
粗利25%でも額としては800Bですか…大変ですね。
575 :
新着レスの表示 :2012/05/04(金) 10:06:54.97 ID:5g7Kqy5v
576 :
名無しさん :2012/05/04(金) 17:02:37.83 ID:dkgZ19Rx
旅ランドも同じ値段で始めたから 573は偽物
577 :
あ :2012/05/04(金) 22:23:12.29 ID:iG+OEcnM
>>576 旅ランドで予約します。
ありがとうございます。
PPTはリスクヘッジとか言って独自の為替レートだから嫌い
579 :
おれ :2012/05/04(金) 23:26:40.19 ID:dhoHW/DN
>>578 現地支払いならタニヤ酒場の為替レートじゃん
>>579 最低1万円は振り込まなきゃダメでしょ?
581 :
アキラス :2012/05/05(土) 05:11:38.31 ID:M+jff65A
<#`Д´> <
582 :
おれ :2012/05/05(土) 10:05:05.23 ID:87KFNviT
>>580 為替の話と振込みの話が混ざってるけど
>>578 が言ってるのは為替の話
ちなみに振り込んだ1万円も酒屋レート(TTS)で換算できる
583 :
ヒロ :2012/05/05(土) 12:04:42.81 ID:zQftuEAx
テーメー1日目 ・クルマ持ちの女子大生、実は、売春で稼いで車を買っている。 何とかしてクツや洋服を買わせようとする、典型的な売春婦。 常套句は「明日、アパートの家賃を払わなくてはならないの」。 テーメー2日目 ・正統派カラオケ嬢、実は、正統派売春婦。 日本女性以上に行き届く気遣いを持ち、余計な金を使わせるより、売春代さえ高かければ良いというタイプ。 一見の客より長期で貢いでくれる客を望んでいる。次回もぜひ貢ぎたい。 テーメー3日目 ・部屋を散らかし放題。マナーを知らない原始人。そのまんま田舎娘。 素朴で素直なのは良いので。きちんと教育すれば低額でイケルかも。 テーメー4日目 ・英語と日本語を独学で習得している、プロの売春婦を目指して猛勉強中。勘もいいので、コンビニの仕事ではもったいない、ぜひプロになってほしい。この娘とは、長い付き合いになるかも知れません。 タイ女性は精神年齢12歳くらいですから いくらでも売春できますよ。
>>582 え?そうなの?俺が利用したときは日本から予約金1万円振り込んでPPTのレートで計算されて
残金を現地でバーツで払ったんだが
どうやって振込み済みの1万円を酒屋レートにしてもらえるの?
現地で一旦1万円返してもらって全額バーツで払うの?
585 :
おれ :2012/05/05(土) 17:52:03.84 ID:87KFNviT
>>584 酒屋の、、空港、SR、何処のでも良いが、、当日か前日の両替した領収書を見せれば
そのレートで1万円をバーツ換算し、残金をバーツで払う
>>585 そうだったのか。HPに何の説明も無いから、支払い済みの金は勝手に計算されてるものだと思ってた。
情報THX
587 :
なーむ :2012/05/06(日) 13:06:37.80 ID:Vh5mcsSw
こっちにも書いとこ。 ソロスクンビット2はJF500取るらしいぞぅ。 気を付けなはれや
588 :
そいか :2012/05/06(日) 21:58:16.69 ID:ngUQ9AJV
このGWに初めてソイ19のシティロッジに泊まったけど、あのあたりのホテルではかなり満足度高かった。 部屋もきれいだし、ロビーには読売新聞あるし、何より駅に近い。
589 :
バブ吉 :2012/05/07(月) 02:03:58.89 ID:Zgcgwjo8
だよな。 ドアマンの親父が気持ち悪い程フレンドリーでSボックスも有るし、 Wi-FiもタダでDVDも有るし部屋もそこそこの広さなんだけど ターミナル21が出来てからガードマンのホイッスルがやかましくて寝てられん。
590 :
名無し :2012/05/07(月) 06:27:46.03 ID:WeWS7snB
UNOもSILQも部屋は狭い。 シティーロッジ19はあの界隈ではコストパフォーマンスが優れたホテルだ。 まぁ予算が許せばCP21やジャスミンの方がいいけど。 あと穴場はTAIPAN ソイカ抜ければ地下鉄。インターチェンジタワーを抜ければBTSの駅に近い。
591 :
ラストカピトール :2012/05/07(月) 08:19:19.59 ID:ria0W3XI
19なんて表現が最近でているのは、 明らかに俺からの影響か? 先月最後に火事があった記事から触発されたか? 19もいいが、食事を考えるともう少し番号の少ないほうが良い。
592 :
あ :2012/05/07(月) 08:29:56.28 ID:Kx8NEwuo
593 :
ラストカピトール :2012/05/07(月) 08:53:54.63 ID:ria0W3XI
>>592 あら、図星でした? ヒキオは仕事中に2chか?www
俺がテルメを歩くと女の子の視線は釘付けw
みんながいっせいに見つめる超イケ面w
雑誌のようにかっこよく
映画のようにカリスマ的
♪dont hate me cause Imma handsome♪
♪dont hate me cause imma handsome♪
一番の楽しみは、、誰かがこれから連れ出す女が俺の瞳に釘付けになるとこw
その男の負け犬ぶりと来たらw これが俺がテルメやGOGOに行く
最大の理由w 明らかな勝ちでもやはりそれなりの価値があるから♪
あら、物珍しい顔してらっしゃるのね
595 :
あ :2012/05/07(月) 09:31:56.69 ID:Kx8NEwuo
>>593 お前は今、カンボに行ってる設定だろ。
お前の顔はここの住人ならみんな知ってるわ。
なあ、箕輪君www
596 :
ラストカピトール :2012/05/07(月) 10:53:14.70 ID:ria0W3XI
へ? 箕輪君って? 誰なの? 設定ってなんだよw お前とは違うんだからねw 顔を知ってようが知ってマイが んなこたぁ関係ないw 俺は俺。ハンサムはハンサムw それでいいじゃないかw ココの住人なんてカスとクソの混合物w それをコケにするのが 面白いんじゃないかw
この板の書き込み数1位のお前がカスとクソの混合物の頂点って事か、納得。
598 :
新着レスの表示 :2012/05/08(火) 11:08:06.87 ID:yVPRoaKb
599 :
たるん :2012/05/08(火) 21:32:31.83 ID:BSOCfnJh
>>590 ジャスミンのフロントのライブ映像で抜いた。ソイカview推奨。
ただしフロントでの笑顔いっさいなし&1階の日本人が小遣い稼ぎする。
はす向かいのMr.Laundryが安くて上手くてお届けもしくれるので便利。
タイパンもマンハッタンより安けりゃ場所もいいしお勧めですね。
タクシーで帰るとかなりの確率で通り過ぎちゃうけど、あの看板。
個人的にはシタディーン16とか23が小奇麗&フロントの態度に好感。
上の口に便利なのは16、下の口に便利なのは23ってとこでしょうか。
600 :
おれ :2012/05/08(火) 23:26:40.22 ID:jQjhdSWR
上と下に口を二つ持ってるのか?
601 :
名無し :2012/05/09(水) 08:29:27.65 ID:TsTUXp1E
確かにTAIPANはパッと見、入口も分かり難いし看板も見落としやすいな。
602 :
書き込む :2012/05/12(土) 10:16:19.95 ID:x4fGj4OK
リバービュー・ゲストハウス
場所はものすごく解り難い所に位置してますがチャイナタウンの外れにあります
ファランポーン駅までは歩きで10分くらいの距離に有り
ゲストハウス周辺は地元のどローカルな雰囲気でエンジン関係のジャンク屋が集まってます。
なんと言っても眺めが素晴らしいゲストハウス、レストランからの眺めも
部屋のベランダからの眺めも最高です。
チャオプラからの風が部屋に入りエアコン無しでもOK、葉っぱ好きな人にとり
煙が一瞬にして飛び散り一切匂いが残らないベランダはベストロケーションです。
ベランダから夕暮れ時にチャオプラを行き交う船を見ながら音楽を聴いている時間は最高です。
http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/nftyd731/17377010.html スクムやシーロムエリアに飽きた人にはお薦めです。
603 :
ヒロ :2012/05/12(土) 16:45:25.14 ID:7aipHtvD
アパートの家賃 「おいおい、今日はまだ26日だよ」と私も思いました。 ずいぶんとナメられたものだと(笑)。 タオルをキチンとたたむ 細かな部分を見てると、なんとなくわかりますよね。 細くても長い付き合いを希望するような対応は、希少価値だと思います。 典型的田舎娘 最初、わかっていてわざとやっているのかと思いましたが、翌朝落ち着いた頃、 彼女がやったこと。私が困ったことを説明すると、素直に謝ってきたので、 素朴な良い娘であることがわかりました。 コンビニ娘 まったり感がありましたか?私も、なんとなく落ち着くんです。 今日、電話で話をしましたが、安らぐと言うか。 もちろん、展開はご報告しますよ。
604 :
パイドゥアイ :2012/05/14(月) 01:17:17.16 ID:2Qug5J+C
エカマイSOI 22 ハイテックマンション一泊600B屋上プール/トゥイェン・ TVケーブル付き一階コンビに在りファラン多数ゲートカードキー ルームサービス酷し…しかし 連れ込みOK 長期安くなる。有名「鐘の寺」 奥 突き当たり
約20年前から「マイアミHOTEL」を皆に紹介してるが、プールが付いてスクンビットだとちょうどいい 条件じゃないかな〜
>>602 懐かしいです!リバービューGH。
10年前の思い出が蘇えりました。
けっこう上の階の一番左に本を沢山入れ込んだ住人(マンス借り)多分ファラン爺さんが居ましたね。
近所の「おかゆ食堂」にはよく行きましたwwww
あそこらへんは地べたが「油とグリス」でべたべたで匂いが凄かったですね。
>>605 マイアミはボロいのに高くね?
10年くらい前は600Bだったけど、今は1000Bくらいするんじゃないかな
昔泊まったらナナで働いてる女の子が集団で生活してた
608 :
情報屋 :2012/05/15(火) 01:06:16.96 ID:Viy8Kftq
609 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/05/19(土) 11:22:18.59 ID:/4a/yAhy
はあ、有給1週間ぐらいとれりゃいいんだけどなあ
610 :
か :2012/05/19(土) 12:22:44.46 ID:Kf45JWhC
>>609 とればいいじゃん。
たかが一週間の有休がとれないほど必要とされてるならかなり年収とってんだろうから、いまは稼ぐだけ稼げばいいじなん。
それはそれで羨ましい。
611 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/05/19(土) 12:55:26.94 ID:1p6NqGxv
612 :
パッカーさんへ :2012/05/20(日) 14:08:24.82 ID:cJf/DQxn
バンコクの、ここだけはやめたほうがいい宿 ★CH2 経営者のおばちゃんと男性タイ人の態度が最悪。泥棒最高レベル要注意。 (部屋の上が網戸で簡単に開けられてしまうので、南京錠とかしていても被害に遭う。 犯人は宿の従業員。) ★さくら 南京虫要注意。 ★ママズ 同様に南京虫注意。 ★キキキ 経営者のおばちゃんの態度が最悪。泥棒要注意。犯人は経営者のおばちゃんとその子供。 ★パンラム 宿自体の評判は悪くないのだが泥棒要注意。犯人は経営者。
613 :
神取 :2012/05/22(火) 15:27:01.44 ID:owHhpLfl
614 :
- :2012/05/22(火) 23:20:10.85 ID:qA5WnZfG
>>560 スクンビットに比べればコスパは高い。ファランポンはタイ国鉄だけでなく、地下鉄も始発なので、
タニヤやスクンビットへも案外便利。JFはもちろん無料。
あと駅構内に店がたくさんあるから、買い物にも困らない。
あとファランポン駅近くなら、バンコクセンターホテルはいくらぐらいかな?
>>614 真偽は分からんがどっかのスレに今月から値上げ(朝食付き900B)って書いてあったぞ。京華大旅社。
スクンビットメインならわざわざこんな所に泊まるメリットは薄いな。
616 :
あ :2012/05/22(火) 23:39:38.80 ID:uDwtSU/N
>>615 マジか?
あんなボロホテルに900もだせるか。
タイ人は今でも400なのに。
去年の洪水の時(その時はえらい雨が降るなあとしか思わんかったが)初めてチャイナタウンを根城にしたよ。 宿は安いけど、結局飲みに行くならやっぱナナ、アソーク辺りが便利。 てかチャイナタウンは夜暗くて鬱になるわw あとソイカセムサンに長期滞在したことあるけど、良かった。 ホワイトロッジ400Bお世話になりました。
618 :
- :2012/05/23(水) 08:48:35.33 ID:5kxDLsqD
>>615-616 朝食付けて値上げというわけか!?
本当にそうなるなら、同じ地区ではバンコクセンターホテルの方が勝るな。
安さだけなら、駅からシークルン反対側の屋台街周辺にいくつかあるが、
水シャワーだけだったりする。
619 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/05/23(水) 21:56:37.84 ID:iICrqI3L
>>618 バンコクセンターホテルは2泊ほどしたことあるけど良くないよ。
古臭く、なんかかび臭い。
シャワーのお湯も生ぬるく勢いが無い。縁起も悪いしなw
620 :
- :2012/05/24(木) 00:15:08.24 ID:EKaJqEoP
>>619 >縁起も悪いしなw
詳しく!
あと泊まった時1泊いくらだった?もっとも旅行代理店などで手配するのが安いだろうが。
空港で予約しても飛び込みより恐らく安そう。
621 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/05/24(木) 01:05:01.81 ID:g9meMZCh
>>619 マックブティックも同じくで、地方のモーテル風。
ソファーでうたた寝していたら体じゅうダニに噛まれた。
622 :
あ :2012/05/24(木) 01:15:13.36 ID:X0g6GdtL
>>621 まだ新しいホテルなのにもうダニがいるのかよw
624 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/05/24(木) 19:10:05.48 ID:WbFxMEH/
>>620 ちょっとネットでバンコクセンターホテル調べたけど、改装したみたいだね。
少しは良くなってるかも。ただ料金が上がった気がする。
オレが泊まったときは一泊2600円くらいだったと思ったけどな。(日本で予約)
JFは必要。
バンコクセンターホテルは後で列車でチェンマイまで行くために泊まった。
誰かも書いてたけどファランポン駅近くは夜は淋しい。
ヤワラーに泊まりたいなら、ファランポン駅からちょっと遠くなるけど
ヤワラー通り沿いのホテルがいいよ。
まあ地下鉄開通前、改装前の情報なんで、あまり参考にならなくて悪い。
625 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/05/24(木) 19:15:23.65 ID:WbFxMEH/
>>621 マックブティックってネットで調べたけど、4つ星で1400B?
ずいぶん安くないか?思わず今度泊まろうかと思ったよ。
やっぱりかなりの問題あるの?
部屋が妙に広いだけが取り柄のホテルです。
627 :
たるん :2012/05/25(金) 01:18:38.57 ID:fsxDTBCM
ヤワラはグランチャイナ以外は上級者向けかも。 同じ3桁台でもon nutとかtongloあたりで比較的新しい プロモで1000以下ってトコのほうが安心だぁね。 imm fusionとかsarilの1、2とかは比較的キレイ。 ちなみにヤワラのやり部屋60THBは、ある意味サイコーだった。
628 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/05/25(金) 01:36:07.86 ID:3tgzFLZC
>>625 4つ星は誇大表示、どう見積もっても2つ星半。
宿泊客はインディアンが多く、無愛想で行儀が悪い。
奴ら糞をしても拭かずそのまま裸でそソファーに座るらしい。
安ホテルが故、掃除も緩く不衛生、冷蔵庫も無く
淫売たちからも評判は良く無かった。
629 :
:2012/05/25(金) 20:48:01.60 ID:aiKsGz2J
星の数がきになる?
630 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/05/30(水) 23:58:28.86 ID:yqpn82N+
安かろう、悪かろう。
631 :
名無しさん :2012/06/01(金) 02:44:33.24 ID:0HIIRVw4
CPならラームカムヘンのナサベガスかな ネット予約で千円ちょいであの質の宿はバンコクにはないだろ ソープとRCAもまあ近いし、JFも不要 もちろんいいホテルに泊まりたいなら、ダメだが
632 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/06/01(金) 20:35:13.08 ID:RH/8S74T
マックブティックは、タオルやシーツを汚したという理由で 700B追加で徴収されたから後味悪い 確かに若干汚したんだけど、新品買うより高いやんけと思った。
ここで好評だったシティロッジソイ19に宿泊したが 最後の最後で空港に行く際にホテルマンの 中国人っぽいじじいに無理やりタクシーに乗せられて 俺を信じろ、ホテルが紹介するタクシーだとか言って荷物を 勝手に車に乗せ、何度も「オン、メーター」って言っているのにメーター倒して 400Bだとか言われた300に値切ったけど、 相場が200B前後なのに 金の問題じゃなくてぼられた事に腹が立った。 舐められてるんだよな、完全に
634 :
七十 :2012/06/02(土) 01:47:20.20 ID:p1dmR0yk
>>633 最後に嫌な思いしちゃったね。
こういうケース他のホテルでも有るみたいだけど、
この話見ちゃうとシティロッジソイ19止めとこう、
と思っちゃうな。
もうアソークスイートとかバリーズシーロム辺りに
しちゃおうか。
635 :
名無しさん :2012/06/02(土) 01:49:13.54 ID:W1usWbv/
というか、ホテル発で200Bなんてありえないだろ 何言ってんだ シティロッジ19は好きだけど、ターミナル21ができてから ゆっくり寝れないのでパス
636 :
スクンビット :2012/06/02(土) 04:53:13.90 ID:PGNZiMSt
>633 高速使ったんなら普通最低350Bはするだろ(笑) 高速じゃなくてもだいたい300Bはするぞ?
637 :
:2012/06/02(土) 06:16:24.18 ID:PPGlj/cA
流しのタクシーでメーターで200Bだ。 でも300だったら我慢
638 :
名無し :2012/06/02(土) 07:29:46.95 ID:opzBla6L
◯◯の問題じゃないって言ってるヤツは、大抵そこを根に持っている。 これ豆なw
639 :
ぱた :2012/06/02(土) 11:20:16.39 ID:PDivpWMr
「これ豆なw」って・・・ 何かエッチ。
640 :
D :2012/06/02(土) 13:18:36.79 ID:pWr0GxDv
昔屋台で酒飲んでたらインド系の豆売り親父が来たな。
641 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/06/02(土) 13:42:29.03 ID:BnWXZNHz
豆はやはり千葉の落花生だな
642 :
名無しさん :2012/06/02(土) 15:31:19.94 ID:tM2rQcM/
>>636 ナナ〜アソーク界隈からタクシーで空港まで早朝だと220B位。
ルートはアソーク北上してラマ9通りに入って高速に乗る。
これだと高速代も25Bだけだから総額で250前後でつ。
643 :
名無しさん :2012/06/02(土) 19:39:17.84 ID:W1usWbv/
うん、ばからしいくらい小さい金の話なのは分ったよ。
644 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/06/03(日) 18:55:55.78 ID:4lM0bC+V
ところで、タイにもラブ・ホテルってあるのかな。 フィリピンにはあるけど、タイでは聞かないな。 タイ人の若者はどこでするの?
645 :
名無しさん :2012/06/03(日) 19:04:23.04 ID:34l5/Y46
そこら中にある
646 :
名無し :2012/06/04(月) 01:58:31.18 ID:CyTYMT53
ラブホは有るよ。アジアホテルの脇のソイとか ランナムにも何軒か有るし、日本の田舎のモーテルみたいに入口が目隠し用のカーテンで覆われてる。
647 :
七十 :2012/06/04(月) 07:51:46.63 ID:15KfAT1N
>>572 >>576 旅ランドに倣ってか、PPTもCPターミナル21の2,400B〜キャンペーン始めているね。
648 :
名無しさん :2012/06/04(月) 13:57:00.97 ID:l2g4iyIu
CPターミナル21、1900〜2000バーツで扱うところまで出現。 オープン価格とはいえ何でこんなに安いの?
649 :
あ :2012/06/04(月) 14:23:28.46 ID:gbewKfmo
650 :
名無し :2012/06/05(火) 00:02:03.73 ID:V+VXe3va
>>648 おい、どこだ?
2400で2週間予約したんだが、1900なら取りなおす。
651 :
648じゃないけど・・・ :2012/06/05(火) 03:36:26.83 ID:A/jsYlI6
652 :
あ :2012/06/05(火) 18:34:26.58 ID:TqNHekfF
653 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/06/10(日) 18:04:35.16 ID:IrOJSFRt
654 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/06/10(日) 22:48:09.38 ID:kjP/J6MG
CPターミナル21、マナーの悪い中国人団体ばかりでウンザリ。
655 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/06/14(木) 01:14:43.33 ID:aDasi/Mq
あの立地で1900〜2000Btだったら コスパ良すぎる、 シナ人締め出しキャンペーンかな。
656 :
z :2012/06/14(木) 07:55:37.83 ID:VOu8d7gU
特に最近オープンのホテルは 客室数を多くしすぎて埋める為に結果安売りしているホテルが多い気がする
657 :
a :2012/06/14(木) 19:08:08.92 ID:4o4Z7PJf
658 :
桜 :2012/06/17(日) 20:54:43.00 ID:FDgnln0k
CPターミナル21ってもちろんJFなしですよね?
659 :
ぱた :2012/06/17(日) 21:15:20.25 ID:Epx+HXpY
うん。
660 :
七十 :2012/06/19(火) 00:15:24.50 ID:WFtMlxIu
>>656 そこでアソークスイートの出番ですね分かります。
661 :
ユーロ :2012/06/19(火) 01:47:12.32 ID:hvOc3iNG
週1500〜2000バーツくらいから泊まれるGHか簡易宿泊ご存知ですか? 1〜2ヶ月の滞在予定
662 :
あそーく :2012/06/19(火) 13:56:16.40 ID:EeYV5ylS
1〜2ヶ月だったら月契約で泊まればいいじゃん 1万Bも出せば選択肢たくさんありますぜ GHはお勧めしない最底辺レベル
663 :
な :2012/07/03(火) 03:01:55.70 ID:QAnlCpQ0
>>651 ウェンディーのGCPタミ21キャンペーン終わってた。。1900→3800ってwww
他所だと最安2400かな。それでも安いんだろうけどなあ。
664 :
七十 :2012/07/11(水) 12:46:55.17 ID:c0tpKauP
バンコク旅行センターで、CPターミナル21のスーペリア2,180バーツで出てるね。
665 :
アキラス :2012/07/17(火) 07:38:06.44 ID:OWcequSm
アンバサダーは中途半端な宿だな
666 :
ゴン :2012/07/19(木) 18:17:54.44 ID:x2iNVEtN
パタナカーンのバンコクラマホテルに宿泊予定ですが、 JF必要ですか?
667 :
名無し :2012/08/03(金) 17:37:06.23 ID:TJeXlyzA
シティーロッジsoi9の1階のパスタ屋跡地には何かテナント入ったかな? 個人的にはコンビニがいいんだけど。
668 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/03(金) 18:09:11.83 ID:427C2Jba
>>667 もう少し前になるが、2F建のけっこう立派なスポーツバーが出来た。
飯は高いのだが、不思議と観光客が入っている。
1度雨宿りで利用した。コーラ66B。
669 :
名無しさん :2012/08/03(金) 18:30:39.15 ID:LEE5lSmY
>>667 >>668 おまえらどこの話してんの?
soi19の話だろ?
コンビニ隣にあるのになんでコンビニ欲しいの?
670 :
名無し :2012/08/04(土) 05:16:04.59 ID:rY4XKKuc
671 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/04(土) 05:26:25.70 ID:lmcsiw4X
672 :
:2012/08/04(土) 11:24:15.70 ID:USsrqqvS
>>669 良いことを教えてあげよう
City Lodgeってsoi9とsoi19 2つ有るのだよ
673 :
あ :2012/08/04(土) 21:25:51.92 ID:p4go7d/y
あのpasta'n'noodleはマズイうえに値段が高いからいつかは潰れると思ってた。
674 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/04(土) 23:28:52.76 ID:E7BgmVii
俺は価格も有るけど、あのセンスの無い黄色い看板がマズそうで、1度も利用しなかった コンビニならSoi11入ったところに小さい7-11が有るよ
675 :
名無しさん :2012/08/05(日) 00:05:00.55 ID:Vl9U8hU+
>>672 知ってるけど先月行ったらソイ19の1階にあるイタリア料理屋をつぶしてたから
その話してるのかと思った。
ソイ9は確かに近くにコンビニほしいなぁ。
最近この通りのソイ5あたりにセブンできたね。
グランドビジネスイン所のセブンとどっちが近いかな。
676 :
あ :2012/08/05(日) 00:11:56.12 ID:t0vtFCra
>>674 グランドビジネスインの隣ね。何年か前に火事で焼けた7-11
ロッジの19もイタ飯屋だか何か有るけど、
ラ・グリッタって言ったっけ?地元で評判の店だとか
どっかのHPで見た覚えが有るけど、どうなんだろう??
677 :
名無しさん :2012/08/05(日) 01:10:27.95 ID:Vl9U8hU+
>>676 いや多分もうやって無い
まずくないけど、もし33まで足のばせるなら33の店のが良いと思う
678 :
あ :2012/08/05(日) 07:42:06.24 ID:ProhIxO+
ちなみにあのpasta 'n'noodle ハイネケン大瓶 カルボナーラ カプチーノ クッキー3枚 これで1000B越えてたな・・・
680 :
今はなき :2012/08/05(日) 19:13:18.35 ID:+LfS5QTi
安ホテルのゴキブリには日本から持参したアースレッドでは効かないことがあるよね
681 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい :2012/08/06(月) 21:56:49.99 ID:64m/bhid
BKK の高級?イタリアン、週末は駐在の家族連ればかり。 日本人のガキ走り回って、高いカネ損する。
682 :
看過できない :2012/08/06(月) 22:05:43.62 ID:PLoH3HuC
いつも俺はスリウォンホテル
683 :
ナナプラ・テーメー :2012/08/08(水) 16:39:14.13 ID:JXWv7FIL
男1人、バンコクに5泊します。 スクンビットのS15と、soi2にあるマジェスティックグランデだと、どちらがおすすめですか?
>>683 ホテルとしては大差ないので、違いは立地ですかね
ナナプラから女を連れて帰るとすると S15:スクムビットの交差点まで出てタクシー マジェ:余裕で徒歩
テーメから女を連れて帰ろうとすると S15:這ってでも行ける マジェ:タクシーが近くでUターンできないので遠回りになる、Soi6〜4は渋滞も酷い
って、ことでS15ですかね
でも、ベッドの角にに足をぶつけるだろうけど。
685 :
な梨 :2012/08/09(木) 01:36:17.66 ID:6ZiNvgYc
>>683 どっちかと言われりゃ、S15だな。MPやタニヤに行くにも地下鉄使えば楽だし。
まあマジェGより駅に近い、ってだけの話だけど。滞在短いなら効率重視でしょ。
マジェGはプールがあるから昼間の時間潰しにはいいかも。小さいけど悪くない。
あと朝飯はマジェGの方が美味かったような気がする。
686 :
さげ :2012/08/10(金) 00:21:53.10 ID:3IAqHiIi
こないだナナのゼニスというホテルに泊まった。 ホテル自体は何の問題もなかったが、周囲がアラブ人街で、毎夜ひったくりや発砲なんかが あってなかなか楽しめた。 おまけに普通に深夜道歩いてたら、ポリスチェックとか言っておっさん近づいてきたから 全速で逃げたらパトカーが歩道に乗り上げて追いかけてきてワロタ。
687 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/10(金) 03:32:44.20 ID:eLzRbkgE
688 :
683 :2012/08/10(金) 23:15:10.14 ID:+/fIBfTa
>>684 >>685 >>687 みなさん、ありがとうございます。
いつもはナナホ、グランドビジネスイン、スイスパークなので、
もう少しきれいなホテルを探していました。
甲乙付け難いということですね(^O^)
689 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/11(土) 22:03:42.93 ID:24Q2C2Nc
あの辺ならPresident Palaceもあるで
690 :
うんこ :2012/08/12(日) 01:36:55.60 ID:mZBgtcAz
僕ならその金だすならフォーポイントかなぁ
691 :
名無しさん :2012/08/12(日) 01:40:28.40 ID:K7LWz8H4
>>690 同じ
そんでナナホグランドビジネスインスイスパーク使うならシティロッジ使う
マジェGは無い
692 :
エロ係長 :2012/08/12(日) 10:18:43.99 ID:9dBB4v4n
以前はソイ4のオムニでしたが、地の利が悪く シティロッジ19とザ・キーで迷っています。 夜行性なので昼間は室内でゴロゴロとしています、 製氷の出来る冷蔵庫があり、明るく快適なホテルは 上記2館ではどちらがお勧めですか?
693 :
名無し :2012/08/12(日) 11:35:28.78 ID:zk20ePvM
さんざん既出だけど、シティロッジ19は笛ピーが うるさくて昼間はリラックス出来ないと思うよ。 キーなら製氷も出来る。
694 :
名無し :2012/08/12(日) 11:37:37.88 ID:zk20ePvM
ただし、明るく快適かどうかは微妙。窓ない部屋もある。<キー
695 :
名無しさん :2012/08/12(日) 12:41:39.00 ID:K7LWz8H4
正直キーまで歩くのもめんどくさい。 花子を定食にすると高くつく。 部屋の中の快適さだけで言ったらロッジ でも笛ピーがある 俺は迷わずにロッジだけどね。
696 :
名無しさん :2012/08/13(月) 00:49:20.46 ID:dlytxdD2
シティロッジのレストラン後はアルゼンチンステーキの店みたい。本当にアルゼンチン産の肉ならすごいうまいぞ。
697 :
名無しさん :2012/08/13(月) 00:52:18.56 ID:dlytxdD2
19の方ね。
698 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/13(月) 01:24:20.65 ID:pK/7mKdt
シティロッジ9、ウインザースイート、スイスパーク。 これのどれかに泊まろうと思いますがどれが良い? シティロッジはスカイゲートで2450円、ウインザーはJHCで2000円、スイスパークは旅ランドで1030バーツプラス為替ヘッジ手数料3%。 ほかに安いサイトとかもっとお勧めのホテルが有れば教えてください。
699 :
名無しさん :2012/08/13(月) 03:59:35.15 ID:GQ1mipHB
>>696 マジ?俺19にいる時、よくステーキ食べたくてソイ23の奥のステーキ屋まで行ってたわ
来月19使うか…笛ピーだけどうにかしてほしいけど。
>>698 日にちに寄る
その中ならソイ9が良いと思う。最安は多分エクスペディア+7%クーポン
ウィンザーの何が良いと思ったの?スクラッチドック目当て?バービア目当て?
スイスパークはオワンコでしょ
シタディーンのちょっと先のチョクチャイステーキか? あそこは確かに美味いな ロッジ9なら1ランク上のスーペリアにした方がいい。 スタンダードだと狭いし、外の音が激しく煩いし カーテン開けたら駅しか見えない。逆を言えば駅から丸見え。 ロッジ19のスーペリアとデラックスの違いは部屋の広さだけ。 CPのガードマンの笛騒音は変わらない。
701 :
名無しさん :2012/08/13(月) 14:47:47.57 ID:GQ1mipHB
>>700 そうそうチョークチャイステーキか
値段貼るけど、赤ワインと一緒に食べると最高だなぁ。
ロッジ9の安い部屋、椅子にキャスターがついてたら、文句ないんだけどな。
狭さも気に行ってるんだ。
今回9のスーペリアにした。キャスターついてる?
702 :
エロ係長 :2012/08/13(月) 14:58:25.59 ID:ZLaJNsaO
いろいろと貴重なご意見ありがとうございました。 ロッジ19の笛騒音はストレス溜まりそうですね。 楽天で6階以上のデラックス指定プランがありますが 6階(上層階)で窓を閉め切っても聞こえますか。
>>701 良く覚えて無いがキャスター無しの普通の椅子だったと思うが…
>>702 上の方の階だろうが全然関係無いよ。
704 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/13(月) 16:48:47.16 ID:Dp0aDXnt
>ロッジ9なら1ランク上のスーペリアにした方がいい。 それだけ出すならバスタブ無いけどシルクバンコクにするよ。
705 :
名無しさん :2012/08/13(月) 17:07:20.27 ID:GQ1mipHB
>>704 それだけって、スーペリア一泊2500円くらいだよ?
シルクなら倍かかるでしょ。
あと9は、ナナ方面狙いなので。
706 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/13(月) 18:02:41.80 ID:TGCGqRxm
今月いっぱいは3000円で泊まれるよ。
707 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/13(月) 18:17:03.33 ID:P1QdrSwi
トップインが良いんだけどネットで予約は無理ですね。 ここはマジェスティックスイートより好きだな。
709 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/13(月) 22:21:18.07 ID:6leMeEXZ
おおすごい! ここ利用してる日本人も居るんだな。 代理店通して予約出来ないわけじゃないけど代理店割引無いから 300バーツも手数料取るんだよ。 ところで今は1200バーツ?
710 :
名無しさん :2012/08/13(月) 23:59:23.31 ID:dlytxdD2
>>709 確か1200Bだったかな。wi-fiも無料で使えましたよ。
712 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/14(火) 01:17:45.91 ID:YEk9ydek
画像に載っているメアドでぐぐったら最新は1200だね。 飛び込みなら値段交渉で少し安くなるんだけど今の時期でも万が一、 満室だったら困るし。 部屋が少ないからね〜 やっぱりシティロッジ9が無難かな? ここって結構アップグレードが有るんでしょ?
714 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/14(火) 06:20:24.30 ID:RWJy6WTa
そのオーバーブッキングが頻繁に有るんでしょ。
715 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/14(火) 06:35:50.66 ID:yzIDNY5k
>>696 667 :名無し:2012/08/03(金) 17:37:06.23 ID:TJeXlyzA
シティーロッジsoi9の1階のパスタ屋跡地には何かテナント入ったかな?
個人的にはコンビニがいいんだけど。
671 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:2012/08/04(土) 05:26:25.70 ID:lmcsiw4X
>>667 ステーキハウスではないの?
716 :
名無しさん :2012/08/14(火) 10:08:57.95 ID:xgWYbSTr
ホテル情報じゃないけどロビンソンのフードコートのチキンスープが具沢山で美味い 注文する前にチキンスープかと聞かれたので何でだろうと思ったが、周りの日本人がみんな頼んでて納得w あと隣のベトナム系のバーミーも昔より具が少なくなったけど美味しいです
717 :
名無しさん :2012/08/14(火) 12:43:59.09 ID:Pc55+XDB
>>715 soi9とsoi19の話を混同してる
soi19はステーキ
soi9が不明
718 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/14(火) 13:01:57.58 ID:yZPDboCQ
719 :
名無しさん :2012/08/14(火) 13:07:12.41 ID:Pc55+XDB
720 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/14(火) 13:20:53.78 ID:yZPDboCQ
えッ なくないの?
721 :
名無しさん :2012/08/14(火) 14:01:54.06 ID:Pc55+XDB
いや、知らんのだけど。 先月シティロッジ9に泊ったけど、 店変わってる事すら全然きづかなかったな。
722 :
:名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/15(水) 22:11:40.99 ID:vLSzU0ok
まあ正直、エロ可愛いウエイトレスもいなかったしね 貴兄の研ぎ澄まされた嗅覚が反応しなかったのも無理ありません
723 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/15(水) 23:40:27.28 ID:raiXIIk2
agotaでトップイン取れた。 50パーツほど割り増しだけど現地代理店に頼むよりよっぽどいい。 初日だけ取って後は交渉だな。
724 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/16(木) 00:31:12.32 ID:Pm0GCX50
来月、アソークにチューンホテル出来るね。 冷蔵庫やバスタブが無いのと、窓が開かない事が有るけど。 ただフィリピンで泊まった時にエアコンの使用料払わなくても実際はチェックも無く使い放題だった。 それ考えると下手にagotaで予約するより本家のサイトで予約した方がかなりお得。
725 :
江戸っ子 :2012/08/16(木) 08:29:33.16 ID:54HyncYk
agotaって なまってないか?
726 :
*_* :2012/08/18(土) 00:40:27.18 ID:skWB/u9v
先週シティロッジ19に泊まった。4階の部屋。 笛のピーピーは全然気付かなかったけど、工事の音が酷い。 なんか常に壁の外をコツコツ叩かれているような音で、こりゃ昼間に寝るのは 至難の技だわ、と思ったね。 あとロビーがむちゃくちゃ塗料(シンナー)臭かった。 パタヤに行って数日後、帰国前日にまたシティロッジに行ったら(予約済み) その時はブールバードに回されたんで正直助かったよ。
727 :
七十 :2012/08/18(土) 03:25:06.48 ID:x5kLV/n7
アソークスイート(全15部屋)がアップを始めた模様。
728 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/18(土) 17:00:40.07 ID:NyUYCKkZ
ナナからアソークにかけてスクンビットの通りから離れてるけど24時間 送迎をしてる安いホテルって有りますか?
729 :
あ :2012/08/18(土) 20:11:25.92 ID:Y2x3OM/O
>>728 スクンピットの安いホテルでいいじゃん?
730 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 : :2012/08/18(土) 20:42:04.03 ID:sjQxahle
スクンビットロードから遠くて地の利が悪い分安いところで、という意味でしょ 実際、そういうところにコストがそこそこで静かで新しいホテルがあったりする だけど、24時間送迎は無いと思うよ
>>728 深夜に送迎をしているホテルはないと思う
それに”安い”っていうのがどの程度なのかわからないけど、安ホテルじゃ送迎もないと思う
それに日中の時間帯に送迎があったとしても、ホテルに向かうときは電話で呼んでそれを待つとか結構不便だよ
で、ホテルの送迎を使わなくても、バイタク使えばいいじゃん
たった10Bだぞ
732 :
名無しさん :2012/08/19(日) 01:37:49.98 ID:hsOKX7D5
シティロッジ19は冷蔵庫有りますか? 客室の写真見る限りでは写って無かったので・・・
有りまっせ。 TVの下じゃなかったかな? 扉開くと小さいヤツが有るはず。
734 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/19(日) 02:11:18.24 ID:aqPC61l8
シティロッジ19はバスタブ無い部屋が有るって本当? それならあの値段ではお得でもなんでもない。
735 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/19(日) 05:01:41.60 ID:U3HXHEWw
一ヵ月後にチューンが最強に成ってる。 部屋は狭いし開かない窓しかないけどベッドはスプリングだし電子金庫も有る。 ただ冷蔵庫とプールが無いのが難点。 そう言えば電話も無かったなw
736 :
あ :2012/08/19(日) 10:14:30.16 ID:Zx7WKyJZ
全然ダメダメじゃん。使えねーよ
737 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/19(日) 10:24:13.24 ID:Ve7O3uZo
アクセスは文句無しだしプロモ狙えば1000円以下だって狙えるよ。
何度もあちこちに嬉しそうに書いてるけど、 チューンホテルって、エアアジアが展開するバスタオルすらオプションのパッカー向けのホテルでしょ 連れ込む連れ込まないは別として、ここの板的には不人気だと思うぜ。舞い上がってるところ残念だけど。
窓も冷蔵庫もない部屋なんて、タダでも泊らん
740 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/19(日) 12:16:48.55 ID:LvLgezEe
現地旅行代理店の方ですか?
742 :
:2012/08/19(日) 12:44:38.59 ID:BCdiRyzs
>>734 シティロッジ19バスタブの無い部屋もある。
先日泊まったデラックスの部屋にはシャワーだけだった。
743 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/19(日) 19:36:45.51 ID:+NgWiBUb
>>739 窓は有るよ。
開かないだけ。
それにワンフロアに一部屋だけ広い部屋が有って同じ料金で泊まれる。
ただしリクエスト出来ないけど。
そうそう、全室禁煙ねw
744 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/19(日) 20:02:22.92 ID:+NgWiBUb
バスタブ無くてあの値段なら駄目ジャン。
746 :
名無し :2012/08/20(月) 05:41:08.85 ID:yvKu2m5l
超極狭 エアコン有料 テレビ有料 タオル・石鹸有料 Wi-Fi有料 冷蔵庫無し ( ´,_ゝ`)プッ
747 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 07:01:14.64 ID:tCEMAWFs
出して600バーツまでだな。
748 :
:2012/08/20(月) 09:49:30.64 ID:Orc/oYCo
soi19のラグジュアリーの方が全然マシだよな。1000B/泊だし HPに書かれてる40uは嘘だけど、チューンよりかは全然広い。
749 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 10:07:53.29 ID:qpxDCvZZ
その値段でバスタブ付いてるの? ならOK チューンはLCCと一緒でプロモで取れてなんぼ。
750 :
名無し :2012/08/20(月) 10:20:46.06 ID:pQtXjbtH
バスタブいらんだろ。。あれば女と一緒に入ることもあるけど 普段はシャワーじゃねーの?まあ、人それぞれかな。 俺はバスタブの有無はホテル選びのポイントにはならないけど、 こだわってる人も結構居るんだな。 でも、バスタブでシャワーしながら小便してる人は多いと思うよ? お湯自体も赤褐色だし。まあ、人それぞれなんだろうね。
751 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 10:40:53.88 ID:ceyuJIld
ちなみに俺の場合は、 ・ホットシャワー(季節によって欲しい時がある。) ・TV(衛星放送が入れば言う事無し。) ・冷蔵庫。 ・エアコン。 ・リネン類の交換。 があれば、とりあえずそれでいいかな。 どうせ、寝に帰るだけだし。
752 :
:2012/08/20(月) 10:58:48.03 ID:Orc/oYCo
753 :
ななし :2012/08/20(月) 12:33:18.66 ID:PsNXgU5O
アソーク周辺のソイの偶数側だと何かにつけて通りの反対側に渡らにゃならん やっぱり奇数側の方が食事や買い物するにも断然便利だ
754 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 19:17:01.62 ID:fwCTXtAL
バスタブが必要不要と言うよりアソークでバスタブ無しなら1000ペソは安くないって話。 ベッドも安い部屋はシングルって書いてるし。
チューンはコミコミで結局高くなるからなぁ トランジット向けでしょ? バンコク市内だと安くていいところいっぱいあるから需要なさそうw
tunehotels って連れ込み不可だぞ。 チェックイン時に一緒ならおKだけど
757 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 20:51:48.51 ID:52+eH6xp
プロモで泊まれるなら文句なしだけど普通に予約していくとアゴダの2〜3星の方が値段も部屋もいいと思うが
759 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 21:15:57.84 ID:mewh812J
チューンをアゴダ(エクスペディアやスカイゲートも一緒)でとると 泊まる時期じゃなくて予約する日によってかなり値段が違ってくる。 まだ予約サイトではチューンのアソークはまだ始まってないから パタヤで見たけど総額で1泊1600円弱。 バーツに直せば約650。 アソークでも同じ価格なら十分価値有る。 これと同コストパフォのホテルなんて短期のプロモでしか無いだろ。
760 :
あ :2012/08/20(月) 21:18:05.49 ID:EI7P7inj
チューン厨君が必死に推してるが、ここの住人には全く需要が無い事に気付いた方がイイぞ。 それに君がどこに泊まろうが、知った事では無い。好きにしたまえ。
761 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 21:20:11.98 ID:limElMp/
アフィリエイト目当てのステマが多いから?
行けばわかるけどチューンは激狭以外の欠点が多い 壁がうっすいし臭いがこもってるし部屋も意外と汚いw ちゃんと掃除してんのかよってレベル まあ新しいホテルならいいかな それでも1000円ぐらいの価格差なら今までの定宿に行く
763 :
あ :2012/08/20(月) 21:25:06.94 ID:EI7P7inj
【結論】 泊まりたいヤツは勝手に泊まってくれ。 以上。
764 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 21:31:04.25 ID:Z0i+PAiO
>壁がうっすいし臭いがこもってるし部屋も意外と汚いw これって普通のタイの1000Bのホテルと一緒ジャン。
ID変えながらチューンの宣伝w 1000バーツ出せば並のところに泊まれるのにくっさいチューンには泊まりませーんwww
766 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 21:36:34.89 ID:jmEXklbq
安全性で考えればチューンは良いよ。 他のホテルなんて高級でもセーフティーボックスのトラブル多い。
767 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 21:39:37.34 ID:AFKNzrFY
アゴダのアフィリで食ってる困窮在住が多いから安いホテルを紹介されると困るんだよ。
768 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 21:47:25.76 ID:limElMp/
ショートかMPでしか遊ばない人にはチューンは良いよ。 アクセスも夜遊びや屋台めぐりにもとても便利な場所に有る。 安ホテルのようなシャワーが冷たいとか量が少ないって事も無い。 これで冷蔵庫が有ってちゃんと窓が開けば最強じゃん。
769 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 21:51:46.92 ID:eCbgPe2l
>>767 ちょっとタイのエロ関連のブログをぐぐってみたらなんとホテルのアフィリエイトの多い事w
ここの人ってレスポンス良いからその手の人が多いんだろうねww
770 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 22:03:53.53 ID:609zVLUj
>soi19のラグジュアリーの方が全然マシだよな。1000B/泊だし これってソイ3〜9辺りの少し奥に入った安いホテルから比べると不便な割に高いな。
771 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 22:27:21.55 ID:/16ZXQjt
チューンのagodaの評価見る限りではここで良いと紹介されてる 1000Bクラスのホテルよりずっと評判良いね。 まあ、夜遊び限定なら視点が違うんだろうけど。
772 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 22:32:53.25 ID:hUlQQFhO
>>771 逆に言えばアゴタでホテル取ってる客はそのランクのホテルをよく予約って事だね。
773 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 22:44:44.13 ID:p0MlEWJq
アゴダとか簡単にすすめる人居るけどトラブル多くない?
774 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/20(月) 23:36:41.60 ID:S3PTL+ra
このスレ見てたらアソークよりナナの方が安くて良いホテル有りそうな気がする。
775 :
わ :2012/08/21(火) 00:09:36.88 ID:mWBVjmGB
>>748 ラグジュアリーはダメダメ。
あそこはハーバルマッサージ屋も兼ねてるから、廊下なんかすごい線香くさい匂いがする。
まるでインドの寺院なみw
776 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/21(火) 00:16:34.28 ID:HGWA/xDN
ああ、やっぱりw 全然ネットで話題に出てこないのに良いなんて言う奴が居るから胡散臭いとは思ってた。 宣伝と言うより泊まった事も無いのにWEBだけ見て良いと言ってるんだろうね。
777 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/21(火) 01:20:04.41 ID:y23JEUEZ
シティロッジ9をエクスペディアのクーポンでブッキングが最強。 シティロッジ19はバスタブが無いし場所もナナより遠いのにシティロッジ9より高い? こんなの糞だよ。
778 :
名無しさん :2012/08/21(火) 01:34:16.23 ID:Ldu554el
>>777 ほぼ同意だけど。
19で飯食う時の選択肢はトップスとT21があるんだぜ?
バスタブなかったっけ?あったと思うんだけど。
ナナより遠いって、どこに対してだよ
780 :
名無しさん :2012/08/21(火) 02:09:04.10 ID:Ldu554el
そこのシングル窓付と soi9のスタンダード(ダブル)が同じぐらいの金額だね。 Maximinn ●朝食付 ●シングルベッド ●バスタブなし? soi9 ●朝食が菓子パン ●ダブルベッド ●バスタブあり ●スクンビット沿い 俺なら文句なくsoi9使う そこも興味あるけど
781 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/21(火) 02:19:08.75 ID:TdudYOhR
今ナリーズって幾ら? トップインが900、値切って800の時に使えないバスタブ付きで600と安かった。 ただ消毒液の匂いがかなりきつかった。
782 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/21(火) 02:27:50.82 ID:ayYfkAJe
マキシムズ・イン、朝飯は1000BHT以上の部屋のみに含まれるって そのHPには書いてあるね
そうなんだ? シングル750Bに泊まった時、勝手に座ってメニューから選んで 部屋番号言っても何も請求されなかった。変わったのかな? それに小さな窓も有ったんだけどね。
784 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/21(火) 03:02:37.81 ID:fAG6Q0zI
あまり話題に出てこないけどストリート1ロッジも良いよ。 ちょっと歩くけどバスタブ付きで部屋は問題無し。 壁が薄いのと予約が難しいのがネックだけど。 750だよ。
785 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/21(火) 06:20:41.14 ID:gdhM7Tux
朝は和食が良いからフォーチュナの近くが良い。
786 :
名無し :2012/08/21(火) 06:48:04.42 ID:QmbkVwAe
787 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/21(火) 07:50:43.06 ID:gdhM7Tux
そんな値段では殆ど窓が無いとかバスタブが無いに冷蔵庫が無いだろ? 他にも周辺が煩いとか。 その上線香臭い? もう泊まれないよ。
788 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/21(火) 07:53:47.00 ID:gdhM7Tux
チューンは禁煙が最大の問題点。
789 :
名無しさん :2012/08/21(火) 09:50:59.42 ID:6LcIIBJV
喫煙者はヤニ臭い安宿で十分だろ
790 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/21(火) 11:24:59.63 ID:qVmg9AgU
MP好きやバックパッカーはスクンビットのホテルなんて興味無いんだろうな。
791 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/21(火) 11:33:02.52 ID:xuR9S7a8
全室禁煙は安ホテルだけ。
14uなんて殆どベッドだけって感じじゃん。 よくこんな所に泊まろうとするよね。馬鹿か?
793 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/21(火) 15:06:08.81 ID:EbtNHk4r
と言われても評判が悪くなるわけじゃない。
794 :
N :2012/08/21(火) 15:40:40.96 ID:h2pAHIVg
>>779 Maxim's inn去年泊まった
ナナ駅から1分 VASUの奥
細かい所は雑な造りだけど小奇麗な部屋
床はフローリングじゃなくてタイルだった
NHKworld見れて大きいセーフティーボックスが重宝した
朝食のお粥が美味 夜は意外と静かだった
この値段と立地なら有りだと思う
マキシムズってタバコOK?自分喫煙者なもんで・・・スミマセン
796 :
N :2012/08/21(火) 16:43:33.58 ID:h2pAHIVg
シティーロッジsoi9のスタンダードルームはベットを背にでかい鏡が有るよね。 あれはイイわ。ハメながら鏡に向けて写真撮りまくったw
798 :
あ :2012/08/22(水) 13:05:53.43 ID:GB+rrdST
799 :
:2012/08/22(水) 23:58:30.30 ID:re5MfFie
ワールドインもスターインもマキシムズインも 今じゃAgodaで予約出来る様になったね。時代だな…
でかい鏡はマジックミラーにでもなってるんじゃないかと落ち着かない
801 :
:2012/08/23(木) 00:43:40.84 ID:+4o8rEc1
ちなみにスターインは天井も鏡張りになってる
802 :
:2012/08/23(木) 05:27:53.11 ID:XfSFREWO
スターインに決めた。 で、JF?
803 :
:2012/08/23(木) 08:53:24.55 ID:+4o8rEc1
当然の如く無い
エデンクラブの連れ込み宿は スターイン?
805 :
802 :2012/08/24(金) 13:05:27.22 ID:6niAP0Qk
スターインは代理店なしで直接予約がよいですか? 飛び込みがいいですか?
806 :
a :2012/08/25(土) 09:59:22.59 ID:47ERMP0p
最近は何処のGHやHOTELも「リニューアル」して、安宿だった部屋を「グレード・アップ」しちゃって 泊まれません・・・・・・(昔、400bだった部屋が1000超え!)
808 :
う :2012/08/26(日) 00:42:41.68 ID:Sg9Bys9G
フォーチュナとかもそうだよね。 あそこ築何年だよ。
809 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/26(日) 03:49:40.99 ID:okGy2t/s
フォーチュナーか・・ もう10年以上も前だけど朝飯抜きで800B位で泊まった記憶が有るな 日本人のおっさん率が高くて(今じゃ俺もおっさんだが)ロビーで話をしたおじさん達に、 この後、幻の村に行くんだが一緒にどうだ?と誘われた。 俺は炉に興味が無かったのでお断りしたが、今となっては一度村を体験しとけば良かったと後悔している。
810 :
四条 :2012/08/26(日) 04:50:04.70 ID:BPPZRvjM
グランドビジネスインて7年位前1000Bじゃなかった? 先月泊まったけど、ホテルは劣化してるし向かいのレストランの生演奏ドカドカ煩いからもう辞めた。
811 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/08/26(日) 05:55:24.39 ID:okGy2t/s
7年前ならちょうど開業した頃じゃないかな? オープン当初はプローモーションで1200だったと記憶。俺、飛び込みで泊まったわ。 その後1500で続いて、今は1600だっけ? 個人的には嫌いじゃない宿。
812 :
z :2012/09/02(日) 12:52:10.22 ID:HoMU5fPu
トンローのREXも古いホテルだけど あれはあれで妙に味が有って好きなホテルなんだなー
813 :
p :2012/09/02(日) 14:33:38.54 ID:gQqzO3yz
味があるとは思うけど、10年位前に急にかなり値上がりしてから、 あの古さではさすがに割に合わないと思って、もうやめたな。 REXなつかしいね。
814 :
名無しさん :2012/09/02(日) 15:07:50.45 ID:cWwoTKX4
俺も1000B超えてから使ってないな
815 :
^o^ :2012/09/08(土) 08:43:16.09 ID:XXO4sfY9
誰かスクンビットにあるツースリーマンション(Soi23)使った事ある人いる? BTSまでは少し離れてるけど、タイパンやシタディン23とたいして変わらん場所の 割には安めで広くてJF無しになってるんで使ってみようかと思うんだけど。 夜はフロントに人がいない(呼んだら出てくるんだろうけど)そうなんで IDチェックも無しなのかね? バスタブはあってもカーテン無しで床がビショビショになるとか、きちんと掃除して くれないとか、シャワーから水しか出ないとかいう話も、ちょっと気になる。
止まってる?
サウナの設備が充実しているホテルありますか? HP上ではあっても実際は使われていないというのが多いんですよね。
818 :
谷やん :2012/09/20(木) 18:24:00.64 ID:zlkglNaJ
Agodaやエクスペディアで予約してもJF無料になりますかね?
819 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/09/23(日) 21:25:28.37 ID:P5kC0IHa
1泊3000円でシルクバンコクに泊まってきた。 綺麗で便利な場所に有るけどやっぱりバスタブ無しはキツイ。 古くても更に安いシティロッジ9にするべきだった。 まあ、でも満足だよ。
日本にシャワーがなかった時代で育った人は大変だな
821 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/09/23(日) 23:28:22.91 ID:OWTrWh1p
今の若者は貧困慣れしてるからな。
バスタブって・・・じじくさ
823 :
名無しさん :2012/09/24(月) 10:08:02.42 ID:jvbtT76G
タイのホテルは日本人の狭い価値観だけを基準にして設計されているものてはない シャワーが若い世代の象徴でもなければバスタブが年寄り世代の象徴でもない 事実として、安い部屋ほどバスタブが無いことが多い、というだけ
シルクはバスタブの有無よりもシャワー使うと トイレの辺りまで水浸しになるのが嫌だ
825 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/09/24(月) 15:56:44.22 ID:k82IlJ62
そうそう、シャワールームは値段や部屋の質の割りに異常に狭かった。 朝食も一応バイキングだけど軽食と同じメニューしかない。 でもボーイは外出した時にACが切れないようにカードを貸し出してくれたよ。 だから部屋に帰ってきてからACのスイッチつける事がないので快適だった。
826 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/09/24(月) 17:26:23.06 ID:+dw2Ox7a
>>823 ええ?
以前はバンコク市内ならゲストハウスでもない限りどんな安ホテルでも
殆どバスタブ有ったよ。
これってタイの価値観うんぬんじゃなくてバンコクに来る外人客の
願望からだと思うけど。
>>826 2000B以下の安宿だと俺の感覚では半々くらいのイメージだな
あくまで俺の感覚だけど
828 :
ケイン :2012/09/24(月) 18:22:49.89 ID:eU6wMGKW
1000Bレベルはバスタブないのが見受けられるが1000クラスは 水周りが汚いので風呂に入る気がしない ちなみに800B以下の部屋はシャワーカーテンがなく便座が濡れる
829 :
タイ3年目 :2012/09/24(月) 20:35:41.63 ID:vKNxXIcz
800Bでもガラス戸のシャワーあるところならいくつか知っているよ。 宿を選ぶときは清潔さだと思うね。そして、アクセス アクセスってのは入る時と出るとき 俺の行きつけはレセプションを通さない。
レセプションを通さないメリットって何? ロリを持ち帰る時? 初めての女の場合ID確認してもらったほうが個人的には安心なんだが
831 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/09/24(月) 20:47:11.00 ID:IrL2rTJN
832 :
タイ3年目 :2012/09/24(月) 20:54:18.75 ID:vKNxXIcz
あるよ。 ロリなんて興味はないけど、それにバンコクではもう難しいと思うよ。 IDを確認したいなら自分ですればよい。わざわざホテルを介する必要は ないでしょ? レセプを通さないってのは相当なメリットがあると思うよ。 どうしてもID確認してもらいたいならレセプを通せば良い。 私のホテルは通さなくてもよいホテル 理由はたくさんあるけど、例えば3pができちゃうとか あるいは自分の家感覚でその日行動できる点。 と言っても、私は専ら夕方からその次の朝までなんですが。
833 :
名無し :2012/09/24(月) 21:05:26.80 ID:k35prdJF
最近泊まった宿でIDチェックされた事無いな〜? 見た目から歳食ってる女だからかな?
834 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/09/24(月) 21:13:24.80 ID:4SI1QDpd
しいて言うならJFが有るホテル。 やっぱり無い。
>>832 自分でID見せてもらっても番号暗記する自信がない
メモるのも疑ってるの丸出しだし
ルール上ホテルに見せてねっていうのが一番スマートな気がする
3Pか、それは考えもしなかったわ
そういう人にとってはメリットか。
自分の家感覚でその日行動できるのはID確認関係なくできるんじゃない?
むしろそれはID確認の問題じゃなくて鍵の預けが必要か否かの問題のような気がする
あれ?でもID確認だと3Pってできないんだっけ?
837 :
名無しさん :2012/09/24(月) 23:34:34.25 ID:Ga9z56EC
タイ3年目ってタイのホテル使ってるの? 在タイじゃなくてタイに通い始めて3年目って事?
>>837 脳内旅行始めて3年目ってことだろ
ヤツはタイに行ったことすらない
839 :
名無しさん :2012/09/24(月) 23:58:01.56 ID:l/C+BeQu
クソコテ頻繁に変えて粘着しているあのキチガイだから相手するな
840 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/09/26(水) 20:24:40.02 ID:nxdekg9X
チューン安くて綺麗で便利で人気が有るのは良いけどやっぱ風俗には向かないよね。
841 :
:2012/09/26(水) 20:36:19.48 ID:tEbGhqVZ
論外
842 :
奈奈 :2012/09/27(木) 22:38:04.91 ID:WEvRHHlt
>>817 ランドマークホテル
聞いた話で悪いけどかなりデカイ(広い)らしい
でもチューン安いよね どーせMPしか行かないし…
844 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/09/28(金) 15:23:01.87 ID:G40ERi0e
2泊までならチューンは良いよ。 でも窓が開かない、冷蔵庫無しは結構辛いよ。
845 :
z :2012/09/28(金) 18:32:41.05 ID:wG0h7p37
バンコクセンターホテル(ファランポーン駅)からアソーク、スクンビットあたりの繁華街に、でるまでどれ位の時間かかるでしょうか? ツアーのホテルが激安バンコクセンターホテルです。
>>845 HISだろ。
地下鉄で10分くらいか?
847 :
z :2012/09/28(金) 21:30:14.35 ID:78730mU3
>>846 繁華街まで10分なら許容範囲ですね。
例えばPBしてツアー付属のホテルに泊まらず近所のホテルに泊まるというのもありですよね。
すれ違いすいません。
航空券の値段次第だけどそれもありだよね。 ただ、ホテルの送迎が必須のプランだとイチイチ戻らなきゃいけないし面倒くさそう。 バックれると他のツアー客に迷惑がかかりそうで気が引ける
地下鉄乗ってる時間は十数分でも地下に潜ってチケット買って電車待って…と考えるとそこそこの 時間がかかるな。嫌がる女もいると思う。
タクシーでいいじゃん
潜る買う待つ乗る降りる登る歩く登る買う待つ乗る降りる乗り換える降りる下る 見事アソークに到着。これをどうやったら10分で移動できんだよ・・
852 :
名無しさん :2012/09/29(土) 00:35:38.42 ID:ProlTXiV
そうだね。 ファランポーンの駅からだって電車まつ時間いれたら ソイカま25〜30分くらいかかりそう。
853 :
名無しさん :2012/09/29(土) 00:36:38.05 ID:ProlTXiV
女持って帰るとかはタクシーじゃなきゃ無理だろうな
>>847 ツアーってひとりで行くのか?
ツアーは2名料金表示が基本だから1名の場合の追加料金とか見た?
あと、泊まったことないけどバンコクセンターホテルはJF有料っていう情報があるんだが
それは覚悟の上?
855 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/01(月) 19:29:28.82 ID:DsV7koZX
つうか同じ飛行機で帰る客もいるのに よくツアーホテルなんかに連れ込めるな
856 :
@_@ :2012/10/02(火) 08:38:40.50 ID:pIDAtpdA
近所のオバちゃんとかいたら嫌だけど 帰り便が同じとかどーでもいいわ。
857 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/02(火) 09:07:35.33 ID:AWBh9r2+
>>856 お前みたいな奴が傍若無人に買春するせいで
「タイってそんな場所なんだ」という噂が拡散するんだろ
858 :
@_@ :2012/10/02(火) 09:31:21.57 ID:pIDAtpdA
連れ込む場所がツアーホテルじゃなくても非買春日本人客は居るんだから 噂の拡散に関しては大差ない。 それにもうこれ以上拡がり様が無いくらい拡散してるから安心しろ。
859 :
' :2012/10/02(火) 12:17:51.17 ID:+uTF8J4j
>>845 のz氏の話からどんどん派生してるね。
ちなみにホアランポーンからシーロムなら歩いて30〜40分くらいでいける。
>>858 m9( ´д)ヒソ(´д`)ヒソ(д` )c9m
861 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/02(火) 21:35:00.92 ID:HNnkLVdU
>>855 よほど小さいホテルでも無い限りカオなんて合わせないよ。
>>861 ツアーの人数は同じだからホテルの規模関係なくね?
863 :
ななし :2012/10/02(火) 22:23:32.20 ID:s4mXDQHs
でも同じツアーの中に買春客がいたら他の一般人はかなりイヤだと思うよ 特に女性は そこは隠し通すか遠慮するのがマナーでしょ そもそも男が1人か2人で参加すると かなり違和感があると思うが
864 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/03(水) 09:18:17.91 ID:p8go+jWB
>>863 一人部屋の設定が有るツアーならそれでいいよ。
ツアーと言ってもホテル利用のランクが有るから誰もが同じホテル利用とは限らない。
865 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/03(水) 13:05:29.50 ID:LwXe7bf3
今ほど格安航空券や現地発券が一般的でない時代は、タイぐらいなら ツアーで行くのが当たり前。 マナーもくそも無いってww
>>865 おじいちゃんの若い頃の話をここでされても何の役にも立たないんだよね…。
867 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/03(水) 14:38:40.42 ID:wr+eWuXn
今はツアーで行けるほど金に余裕の有る人は少ないって事だな。
868 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/03(水) 15:18:05.85 ID:sPUwmT6j
なるほど、ツアーが多い旅行先ほどバスタブ付きのホテルが多いんだな。
869 :
名無しさん :2012/10/03(水) 15:42:55.83 ID:tW1Px4YG
>>867 おじいちゃんの時代はツアーのほうが高かったらしいけど、今はツアーのほうが安いのよ。
行きたくもない土産屋とかレストランから旅行代理店がマージンもらってるから安いのよ。
女遊びに行くのにそんな不自由なツアーなんか選ぶわけないでしょう。
870 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/03(水) 16:00:30.52 ID:TufVld6e
ホテル代考えたらツアーの方が完全に高いって。 試算も出来ない馬鹿だけがツアーが安いとのたまう。
871 :
日本人 :2012/10/03(水) 17:06:24.12 ID:0lxKnvV7
ツアーはゲストハウスに泊まらないから高くなる。
872 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/03(水) 17:55:04.78 ID:nWNbCUt5
同じ条件で比較しないで高い安いを語るのは馬鹿。
ケースバイケースだけど1人部屋追加料金考えるとツアーは高いか同等な気がする 閑散期と繁忙期でまた違うのかもしれないが
874 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/03(水) 20:24:49.56 ID:gGqP5Q8I
韓国はホテルを現地の代理店やネット専業代理店に頼んでもあまり
安くならないから総額で考えるとツアーが得って事も多いけど、
タイに限ればマイル狙いとかで中級以上のホテルを直で予約しない
限りツアーの方が完全に高いって。
>>869 の言ってる事は20年以上前の話だな。
875 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/03(水) 20:27:21.16 ID:gGqP5Q8I
>女遊びに行くのにそんな不自由なツアーなんか選ぶわけないでしょう。 だからこれも間違い。 ツアーの方が安ければ誰だってツアーを利用するよ。 ましてタイに行く客は普通のサラリーマンが多いから頻繁に日程を 変える事はまれなので不自由でもなんでもない。
876 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/03(水) 20:44:47.09 ID:f+Ov6VfA
877 :
日本人 :2012/10/03(水) 23:30:13.38 ID:0lxKnvV7
観光が目当てならツアーが便利 女が目当てならツアーは不便 目的に合わせて旅行を選択したらよい
878 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/03(水) 23:55:35.34 ID:F0H/y/Vt
別にそんな事無い。 ツアーだったら最終日に寝過ごして帰れなくなったって心配無い。
879 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/04(木) 00:31:32.74 ID:mp5DjJsQ
タイに女を買いに行く奴って昔はまだ思慮が有ったけど、今はボンクラが多いんだな。
880 :
名無しさん :2012/10/04(木) 00:40:41.41 ID:r+ZqX5oN
881 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/04(木) 01:15:26.66 ID:3d3AKr8O
ソイカの日本人客の年齢層がいっきに10歳ほど若く成ってる。
882 :
mm :2012/10/04(木) 07:20:46.31 ID:OduFTSND
そうか? 見たところ40代ばかりだけど。
883 :
と :2012/10/04(木) 09:38:59.46 ID:ft9TtxlC
>>881 九月いっぱいは私立大学は夏休みだから若くなるのよ
あけたらまた上がる
日本人じゃなくて、中国人では?
885 :
アキラす :2012/10/08(月) 02:51:56.76 ID:+V2pBNmJ
BKKで、決して泊まってはいけないホテルがいくつか判明しました! スクンビットではグレース近くのPBホテル、ラジャホテル、マンハッタン、オムニタワー その他地区では、SAアパートメント、モンティエンなど ピーが出るとのことです(^^;;
886 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/08(月) 20:43:14.32 ID:SQPF5FoY
それって何時頃から出たうわさ?
887 :
名無し :2012/10/08(月) 20:56:28.94 ID:pYKQhTry
そういえばまだ新しいんだけど、 フォーポイントも怖いってナナの子が言ってたな。
888 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/08(月) 21:54:18.38 ID:OC8CJe9V
安いホテルばっかだなw
スレタイ読め
890 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/10(水) 22:31:26.94 ID:0GkDzMcZ
昔のタイ発券はLCCと同等の値段だったけど?
チューンのプロモやってるけどやっぱ込み1000Bぐらいかかるなぁ パタヤは800Bもしないから予約しちゃったw
893 :
一瀉千里 :2012/10/15(月) 18:56:42.72 ID:JgRJjkbc
イビス・バンコクがどんどん高くなる。
894 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/17(水) 02:16:53.73 ID:8VdB3KiB
800切らないとチューン使う値打ちないね。 それならソイ8の少し奥に入った所に結構安いホテルが有る。
895 :
名無し :2012/10/18(木) 21:44:06.40 ID:DvohvOPS
パタヤ・チューンを利用。ダブルベッドルーム、AGODAで税サ込み1泊2800円。 少し前は2000円以下だった気がしたが、プロモ期間が終わったのだろう。 このAGODAでの予約だと、バスタオル、TVリモコン、シャンプー、石鹸付で、バスタオルは毎日交換。 エアコン等電気の使用制限は無い様だった、サインした説明書を良く読まなかったので100%そうだとは 言い切れないが、愛想の良い親切そうな受付ネーチャンから説明が無かったのでたぶんそうだろう。ロビーに FREEインターネットが3−4台有る。新しいので部屋はキレイだが狭い。ベッドはマル、窓は開かない、 冷蔵庫無し。部屋は一言で言えばIbisを更にシンプルで狭くした感じで究極形かも。1人で夜(というか朝か) 寝るだけならOKだが、2人で1晩過ごすには狭いだろう。パタヤでこの値段なら他にも選択肢は有るので次回利用は無い。 さて、Check-In時に1つ問題が発生。タイの安宿でよく有るパターンだが、セイフティBOXが故障で使えなかった。 部屋に電話が無いので(!)、受付まで出向いてクレーム。若い男性従業員が部屋まで見に来て10分後にまた来るよ と言ったが20分経っても案の定音沙汰無し。で、また受付まで出向いてクレームして同じ従業員がまた部屋まで来て 今度は直った。計30分のロス。もちろん謝罪の言葉は誰からも無い。別に期待してないのでいいけどね。 まあ、そんな感じでした。とにかく、今のところまだ清潔なのは間違い無い。
896 :
天使の笑顔 :2012/10/18(木) 23:33:42.05 ID:LqNRVsam
>>895 長文だったが分かりやすかった Thanks
897 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/18(木) 23:47:50.89 ID:DDBHDum9
>少し前は2000円以下だった気がしたが、プロモ期間が終わったのだろう。 全然違う。
898 :
名無しさん :2012/10/19(金) 03:27:39.08 ID:lDcf+YTG
↑ならなんで正解書かないんだ?
899 :
名無しさん :2012/10/19(金) 08:04:00.01 ID:o317z2dy
貧乏人じゃあるまいし、3000バーツ以下のところなんて泊まる気がしないわ
3000Bとは、ずいぶん垣根が低いですな(笑)
901 :
895 :2012/10/19(金) 15:43:50.74 ID:JsT78Hmb
訂正&追記 ・窓は少し開いたので換気はできる ・外の音はやや聞こえるが、寝れないほどではない ・隣室の音は聞こえなかったが、空室かもしれず、壁の厚さは不明 ・4F以上でないと、窓の外が隣の建物になる可能性有り。よって予約時とCheck-In時に高層階を希望した方が良い。 ・何故か止めてあったエアコンが夜中に自動的に起動した ・たまたまかもしれないがTVが見れない&よく映らない時がある。クレームしようと受付まで行ったが、団体客のChek-Inで 忙しそうなので諦めた。MLBプレーオフやらNFLやら見れず。ただ全部で12CHしかなく、しかもスポーツCHは1つ だけだったので、TVに問題がなくても見れたかどうかは不明。 ・シャワーブースの仕切りが半分しかなくトイレが少し濡れたが、これは全室そうなのか、この部屋だけの不備なのかは不明
902 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/19(金) 18:11:17.68 ID:X1NR00C6
3000バーツと言ってもタイの場合、高いホテルほど予約方法で同じホテルでも かなり金額が変わるからなあ。 直で3000ならたいした事なかっても現地旅行代理店での予約なら 価値が倍ぐらい違ってくる。
903 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/19(金) 18:14:03.74 ID:X1NR00C6
チューンは新しいのは良いけど親会社のエアアジアの飛行機と一緒で
メンテナンスが遅い。
>>898 LCCと一緒。
904 :
ななし :2012/10/19(金) 19:21:40.07 ID:JsT78Hmb
初心者のカモじゃあるまいし、パタヤで3000バーツ以上のホテルなんて泊る気がしない ここはリゾートじゃないんだよ 千葉の漁村で立派なホテルに泊ってどうするの? 漁村で泊るなら民宿、これが王道
905 :
今 :2012/10/19(金) 19:37:34.41 ID:RNx/y3eL
松茸
906 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/19(金) 22:30:31.62 ID:PoKtv2xB
千葉の漁村にシェラトンは無いぞ。
907 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/19(金) 23:42:24.25 ID:0ep6gXCG
スレタイに有る悪い宿ってどこだろ? どこもチューン以外はどこも値段相応だと思うんだけど。 チューンは直のプロモ以外はメリット無いよ。
チューンチューンうるさいヤツがいるな スズメにでもなっとけ
でも今ならアゴダでタイのチューンが510BHTだぞ 税サ別だから+50Bするけどw アゴダだからオプション全部込みだしMP派には朗報
910 :
名無しさん :2012/10/25(木) 17:02:36.54 ID:NANilV8e
どうやって検索するんだ? 検索できないぜ?
911 :
名無しさん :2012/10/25(木) 17:04:23.58 ID:NANilV8e
912 :
名無しさん :2012/10/25(木) 17:11:16.04 ID:NANilV8e
>>全館禁煙 俺終了
913 :
:2012/10/25(木) 22:54:23.37 ID:5EWlK7ce
JF?
914 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/25(木) 23:14:30.23 ID:OTTu0nfX
>>909 そんな値段で出てるって事は利用者少ないんだね。
冷蔵庫無いし窓開かないし。
禁煙はたいして問題じゃないと思う。
915 :
:2012/10/25(木) 23:17:41.72 ID:5EWlK7ce
だからJF?
916 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/25(木) 23:26:59.76 ID:6sPTIiwz
JF取るのはタイ経営の一部の団体向け格安ホテルだけ。 で、チューンはマレーシア。
917 :
:2012/10/26(金) 00:19:57.99 ID:2v2LTOi/
水、エアコンを取ってJF無し?
翌日、翌々日予約だと取れなかったり割高料金になるから人は入ってるんじゃねーかな? 開業時期から考えたらアゴダのレビュー数も結構な数入ってるし 添削されてるだろうけどwww
919 :
ななし :2012/10/26(金) 18:07:49.32 ID:3ORvQA49
パタヤのチューン、税サ込み1600円。これは1人で寝るだけの場所を求めてる奴にはコスパ最高 なにしろWSのショートのヤリ部屋と600円しか違わない まあプロモ期間の今のうちだけだが・・・
920 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/26(金) 18:38:47.75 ID:MnHot/Dd
冷蔵庫が無い、タバコが吸えない、窓が開かない、部屋が狭い、不便なノース側。 パタヤでその値段でコスパが良いとは思えないけどね。
いちど、Tune Hotel Asoke に泊まってみるわ。 いろいろと書かれているようだが、オレの使い方で 素で使ったら、どのぐらいextra changeされるか も気になるし、実験、実験。
923 :
名無しさん :2012/10/27(土) 01:02:44.61 ID:29LQTvHl
>>922 あざーす
タバコ吸えたら俺がレポするんだけどなぁ
年末の宿どないしよ…
アンークは便利 あれで1600円とか連れ込まないなら十分 JF無いんだし連れ込んでも十分だろうけどw
925 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/10/27(土) 22:13:02.00 ID:qyehZlnD
>>922 良いも悪いも泊まった時の宿泊費次第だよ。
AGOTAでかなり評判が良い理由はきっと連れ込みしない客か、オープニング
プロモで120バーツでダイレクトに予約出来て泊まった客の評価だけ。
AGOTAはここ経由しなくても評価できるからね。
926 :
アキラ :2012/10/28(日) 04:14:36.76 ID:2KT/Fag2
イータス・バンコクがいい! 楽天トラベルのキャンペーンで2000Bだった 豪華やで〜 ただ、ナナプラザには近いがソイカにはちと遠い プルンチットまでの送迎はあるんだけどね
927 :
名無しさん :2012/10/28(日) 04:25:32.74 ID:uu5HyIvE
うわーそれもっと近かったら良かったなぁ
928 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい :2012/10/28(日) 16:06:04.12 ID:00qKlkuM
エータス系って朝食しょぼくない? でも2000はやすいな。
929 :
アキラ :2012/10/28(日) 19:29:46.16 ID:2KT/Fag2
朝飯はまあまあだけどなあ 俺が行った時はインド・中東系や中国・韓国系があまりいなかったのが好印象だった 出来て間も無いんで綺麗だし、広いし、豪華だし、JFかからないし、ピーも出ないし、またキャンペーンやってたら行こう
>>922 ちゃんとバスタオル二組レンタルするんだぞwww
931 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/11/05(月) 12:22:16.00 ID:biyr+WwE
やっぱチューンだな
どうでもいいけどこの記事は盗まれたという証拠がないな 「実は無実で勘違いでした」だったらどう落とし前つける気なんだろ
934 :
暴走老人もどき :2012/11/05(月) 23:31:55.83 ID:z7pCtZGx
チューンアソークはやめといた方がいい。 14平米ってどれぐらいの広さかわかるか? 狭目のワンルームマンションってことだ。 そこにダブルベッドがあるとどうなる? ベッドの上で着替えるしかないということだ。 コンクリートの生乾きの臭いがきつく、 いいことはなかった。しかもスダレストランは高い。 それならナントラ39の方がずっといい。 イムちゃんの方が安くて量も丁度いい。
935 :
アキラ :2012/11/05(月) 23:42:26.32 ID:R2Glf1ML
まだカオサンのドミトリーの方がアリエルな
936 :
暴走老人もどき :2012/11/05(月) 23:57:23.52 ID:z7pCtZGx
カオサンの不味いパッタイ食うんなら、 タイはない。
狭くても安い、シャワーの水圧が正常、綺麗なベットなら文句ねーよ 連れ込みもタダだしなw 安い飯食いたかったらターミナル21の食堂でも行ってろ 寝る時以外は外に出るなら狭さとか関係ねーしカオサンより確実にコスパは上 いい時代になったもんだ
938 :
暴走老人もどき :2012/11/06(火) 00:31:53.08 ID:Oh6AaklY
ターミナル21の5階にあるフードコートは、安いだけで
全然うまくない。特に作り置きの店はやめといた方がいい。
まだMBKの方がいい。
>>937 はチューンに連れ込んでいるのか?
ご立派。 ワシは恥ずかしくてできなかった。
>>938 スレチだがどこのフードコートがオススメ?
940 :
暴走老人もどき :2012/11/06(火) 00:42:53.95 ID:Oh6AaklY
基本フードコートで、うまいところはない。 屋台か路地の食堂を探すしかない。
そうですか…
ピンクカオマンガイでも行ってろw
>>938 いやブンブンはしてないけどな荷物は取りに行った
フロント素通りだったぜ
ブンブンはMPか女の部屋なんで
まあ出来なくもないとは思った
944 :
暴走老人もどき :2012/11/06(火) 01:04:49.27 ID:Oh6AaklY
ワシも考えているけど、 女の部屋に泊まればタダだ。 チューンは音が筒抜けだ。 ナントラもそうだ。 留意すべし。
945 :
名無しさん :2012/11/06(火) 03:31:19.14 ID:+U16Kg01
>>944 スクンビットsoi3〜23まででお勧めの屋台は?
946 :
名無し :2012/11/06(火) 13:25:09.70 ID:IRo7a4N0
947 :
↑ :2012/11/06(火) 13:45:01.78 ID:LBl/vbpV
カオサン歩いてみた?
>>946 えぇぇぇ???じゃ俺は別のもの喰ってたのか
949 :
:2012/11/06(火) 15:25:21.59 ID:HFXTmFWp
パッタイ、砂糖でドロドロでおいしいか?
あの甘いパッタイにさらに砂糖をかけるタイ人もいるよな
951 :
:2012/11/06(火) 15:31:15.50 ID:HFXTmFWp
そうそう、ソースの味がしない。 砂糖の味だけ。
それがタイの味なんだよ
953 :
名無しさん :2012/11/07(水) 05:58:54.52 ID:WuEM5J2U
954 :
名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :2012/11/12(月) 16:41:43.87 ID:VtlKoOPY
955 :
名無し :2012/11/12(月) 18:57:37.57 ID:Y4HQJfcn
957 :
名無しさん :2012/11/15(木) 01:53:35.08 ID:ZUOQ7oHG
俺はtopsとT21ならT21に絶対行くわ。
958 :
:2012/11/15(木) 05:59:14.53 ID:0etO33lu
おれもT21へいく Topsはまずい以前に食べたい物がない。 T21のほうが尾根いさんが多い。 クーポン売っているのも尾根いさん。
959 :
名無し3 :2012/11/15(木) 18:21:31.64 ID:WskJVn87
スクンビットsoi3〜23でパッタイが食える屋台があるのか? Soi3/1のオカマが集まる屋台しか知らん。
960 :
名無し :2012/11/15(木) 20:46:40.55 ID:yLebfUY6
俺はフードコートならSIAM PARAGONが好きだな
961 :
初心者 :2012/11/16(金) 04:26:37.30 ID:lscHChAk
フードコートはシステムが色々あって戸惑うわ 最初は女任せだったんだけど、言葉わからんし たいして安くも美味くもないって印象
962 :
:2012/11/16(金) 06:57:06.75 ID:tjQAYq+D
>>961 >>たいして安くも美味くもないって印象
味は分からんが安いと思うぞ
安いってのは日本に比べてってことだろ? 露天の屋台に比べたら同じか若干高いくらいだよ
露店の屋台だと、衛生面がきになるな。 排気ガスで汚れた食材、軽く水洗いしただけの食器、、、、 腹を壊したくはない。
965 :
:2012/11/16(金) 20:09:26.75 ID:mstUquiM
露天より安い
屋台と同じくらいの値段で、涼しく食べられる
967 :
名無し :2012/11/17(土) 06:29:02.01 ID:mRJCmtbb
そういや俺フードコート未体験だわ。値段が屋台とあまり変わらないなら使ってみたいなー 前払いでクーポン券もらって後で残金清算でいいの?T21とMBKの具体的な手順を教えて チューンはセブで泊まったことあるけど狭い以外は良かった。隣室がアンアンうるさかったけど あの価格でお湯が出るなら問題ないわ あとこのスレももうすぐ1000だけど、誰か早くテーメースレ立ててくれよ
968 :
:2012/11/17(土) 07:17:10.22 ID:D5KIDZRP
クーポン売り場で100Bか200Bだしてクーポン買う。 クーポン出して食べもと精算。 食い終わったら、クーポン出して精算しておつりもらう。 最近のはカードになって便利になった。 ロビンソンの下のトップスは紙切れだ。
そういやあれって払い戻ししないで次回タイに来た時使えるの?
970 :
もふぁぁ :2012/11/17(土) 09:47:32.70 ID:8tjutnJm
>>969 フードコートによるけど、その日一日だけ有効というのが多いと思う。
971 :
名無しさん :2012/11/17(土) 11:55:12.23 ID:v8jryUqV
まあ少なくともtopsとT21はその日だけですな。
MBKは払い戻し場所がわかりづらい チケットを買った場所と反対側の奥の方にある 紙のチケットだから、後日でも使えるだろうね 東急の1つ上の階(4階だっけ?)に高級なフードコートあるけど、こっちは後払い方式
T21って次の日カード持って行ったら普通に使えたけどあれってその日限定だったの?w それも勘違いか
カードの裏に最後のチャージ又は使用後から30日までが期限て書いてあったw 100Bぐらい無駄になっちったなぁ…
975 :
名無し :2012/11/17(土) 16:48:58.52 ID:1tfF7dS3
>>972 ついついおもしろTシャツに目を奪われる。
>>972 MBKのはいい加減同じ窓口で購入と払い戻し対応して欲しいわ。
次よろしく
978 :
ia :2012/11/23(金) 21:56:05.15 ID:89E9q3xK
>>973 30日間有効
紙チケットだと当日限りがほとんどだけど、
最近増えているチャージタイプのCard式だと1か月有効が多い
来月初めに友だちに会いにマレーシア行く事になったから その前に3〜4日初バンコクで夜遊びしようと思うんだけど 歓楽街の中にあって安めで連れ込みやすいオススメホテルって定番あったら教えて。
980 :
名無しさん :2012/11/24(土) 12:29:30.27 ID:35kkiIzw
981 :
中級者 :2012/11/24(土) 12:50:49.82 ID:P9NLAxxV
>>979 ヤワラーの7/22ロータリー近くの台北ホテル
女は300-500鉢
>>979 定番の ナナホテル でいいと思う
連れ込み前提のホテル
983 :
アキラ :2012/11/24(土) 21:27:17.43 ID:GTgbqpvu
まあ、ナナホだな 金があればソフィテル・スクンビット
984 :
ここも :2012/11/25(日) 10:13:50.03 ID:/OKi3p4u
フォーポイントも、忘れずに
985 :
なまえ :2012/11/26(月) 00:04:33.32 ID:oU/OAD1q
IDチェックなし探してるけど どこかアソークあたりでありませんか? とりあえずテーメの上のホテル予約してみました。
>>985 IDチェックなしは
危険だと思うが自己責任で
グロッチーノ
カードキーで出入りするのでノーチェック
987 :
なまえ :2012/11/26(月) 00:24:28.19 ID:oU/OAD1q
>>986 ありがとうございます。
早速調べて見ました。
テーメ上とどちらがよいですかね?
>>987 比較対象は?
値段はグロッチーノの方が高い
部屋はそれなり
アソークは近い
ホテルじゃなくてSAにすれば、ノーチェックの可能性が高い つか、経験上SAはすべてノーチェックで、こっちからIDチェックお願いすればやってくれる
チューンはフリーパス
991 :
:2012/11/26(月) 14:38:46.36 ID:jcgWVPr5
チューンはチェックインの時、1人分のタオルをもらう。 だから、連れ込んだ時、もう1人分追加で もらわなければいけない。 面倒臭いし、恥ずかしい。
992 :
名無しさん :2012/11/26(月) 23:13:42.16 ID:J9uXZM3b
スクンビットsoi7とsoi11の間のパークホテルって営業してるの?
993 :
アキラ :
2012/11/27(火) 19:05:52.73 ID:0dCz58ue バスの両替屋があるあたりやん